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Hey, Adam curry, John C Devorah.

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Thursday May 31 2018. This is
your award winning get my nation

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media assassination episode 1038
This

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is no agenda

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guarding your reality even when
we're not and broadcasting

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almost live from the Capitol
Jerome Starr state here in

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downtown Austin tea house in
McLean. do in the morning,

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everybody. I'm Adam curry

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and from Northern Silicon Valley
where I can't give you the

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weather today because I'm not
really here. I'm John C. Raglan

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buzzkill

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Yes, it's one of those two times
a year occasions,

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right, Butterfield?

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Butterfield now and buzz buzz
kill. Yes in the morning to you

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John.

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In the morning to you in the
morning to all the ships as seen

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boots on the ground. Yes, he's
in the air subs in the water.

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Yes. Special Edition special
edition of the no agenda show

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today. As I have taken the
keeper away for a little break,

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which you needed.

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Yes, and we this is actually
kind of momentous because we're

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dealing with the probably the
last clip show at the Ramsey

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cane will ever produce because
he's gone off to a new job that

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doesn't give him the free time.
He used to have

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to do stuff and Rassie has done
how many has he done for us?

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He's think he's done six. No, I

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thought okay, I thought was
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lot for sure. A lot of them.

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Well, this is the last one no
matter how many. Yeah. And he

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does a great job. I nobody else
has ever volunteered to do this.

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But you have to do them
ourselves. And what we do is you

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fall back on interviews or some
other thing

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but something that's much
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This is momentous because we his
stuff is always good. It's

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always entertaining. It's always
gives us a good flavor. Good.

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Good take on the show and and we
have to use this before it gets

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before it gets too old. Yeah,
and we do leave it open if

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anyone has any ideas for best
Doc's because we do have one if

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there's like two two cases a
year, maybe two shows a year

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that we don't do the show on a
regular Thursday or Sunday.

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Maybe I don't know for now a
lot. Not four. We've done three

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one year.

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Die. Yes. Remember that was a
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days off. Mm hmm. Jiminy
Cricket. That was nice.

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It's actually not a complete
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true.

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All right, so this is Ramsey
canes final best of all. It's

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been a couple of weeks since
I've heard it. So I do love

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listening to it with fresh ears.
I hope you enjoy it as well. And

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we'll be back. We'll break in
about halfway. So without

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further ado, another no agenda
best of brought to you by Sir

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Ramsey Kane. The following
podcast contains the mingling of

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jingles.

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I'm shocked shocked to find
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Jane go Mengele egg. It may also
cause a leakage.

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I'm shocked shocked to find anal
leakage in here. Listener

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Discretion is Advised hey no Lee
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can click to reveal the text so
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the blurs out

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Oh, that's always doable. Yeah,

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it changes words blur stuff out.
You got a question though. Who

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is behind this? Me that they are
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I'm sure. I hope not about well
it looks too professional. I

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wonder who is in charge of this?
They've got to have some VC if

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some some douchebag editor in
Virginia some douchebag is

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paying for this but let's see we
have a lot of F Russia stuff

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going on?

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Well before we do that oh I'm
sorry we can we do a little f

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Korea North Korea I think

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we need to proudly show our big
phone middle finger to North

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Korea.

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Now the reason I say that is
because pack calm the big pack

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calm guy. What's that.com was
pack crack calm the Pacific

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Command. Oh, yes. Pack up the
big admiral who runs it was

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testifying before Congress and I
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everything he could to try to
indicate that they need more

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money. And Korea is going to
attack at any moment.

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Oh, more money more money.

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What actions do you potentially
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taking the Are most concerning.
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aside for the moment what sort
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What might they do offensively
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believe they sank a South Korean
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missiles at a South Korean
controlled Island. Do you see

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similar things that North Korea
could do? I mean, I don't think

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any of us anticipate that
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scale war, because they know the
cost of that, but other places

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where they would try to push the
envelope? And if so what are

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your concerns about what they
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either our assets in the region
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So I'm not as certain about this
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won't do something precipitous?
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not I'm not saying I'm certain
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what would be quite could

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be, it could be what we've seen
before. Which provocation is

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like the sinking of the tone and
or the attacks on white pedo

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Island, and the continuing
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their ballistic missile testing?
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just to be clear, in the purpose
of the question, I am not at all

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certain that they're not going
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And well, I'm not certain of
anything at this point in my

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life, it's just the nature of
the world. But I am reasonably

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confident that North Korea sees
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on war against South Korea or
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that, what I'm worried about is
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little small things, thinking
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wrong. And I'm trying to get a
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small things are, which is why I
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examples. In the current
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worried about? Are they are they
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try to sink a South Korean ship?
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that they might try to take
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for that small thing that could
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dangerous?

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First Officer, I don't share
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is not going to attack either
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united states or territories or
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States once they have the
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Oh, my God goes on and on

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sales sales call. Was McCain in
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No, this was this was the house.
Oh, okay. McCain couldn't hear

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me he could be

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he probably under the table
given him a handy.

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I wouldn't be surprised. So
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University of Denver. This is a
clip is called North Laurie you

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Denver, who is the ex ambassador
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involved with some some
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And he comes out of the
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strange school. You can look it
up as mostly they do a lot of

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professional training. It seems

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like a spook school.

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The Colorado College is kind of
a spook school. This is

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something else and I'm not sure
it may be a spook school, but do

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listen to this north. This guy
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Trump is increasing US military

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strength North Korea University
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Yeah, North Korea University of
Denver. That's okay. Well, I

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don't know what could this is.
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President Trump is increasing US
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Korean Peninsula after missile
tests by the North. Well, this

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evening we spoke with former
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the US delegation in 2005. In
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curtailing its nuclear program.
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University of Denver's Josef
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Studies. Mr. Ambassador, in
terms of American lives, is

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North Korea a threat or an
irritant?

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It's a threat. It's a threat.
First of all, we have some

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28 30,000 Americans in South
Korea, but we have to understand

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this is a an agreement we have
we are duty bound treaty bound

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to come to South Korea's defense

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Why Why? Why? Right. Oh, treaty,
what treaty is this

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defense treaty? I don't know.
There's a treaty what we signed

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that's what we're still there. I
think that war never ended. We

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don't want to end it. We never
want to meet with North Korea.

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The whole thing's a scam to sell
arms. That treaty. Yes.

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Should the North Koreans attack
if we have to go in there? We

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would be in the middle of a
fight. So you bet it's it's a

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threat to to our lives.

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You led the American delegation
negotiated an agreement with the

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current dictators father What do
we know about the son Kim Jong?

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You know, his father seemed to
care what China thought seemed

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to care what we thought. And
what distinguishes I think his

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son Kim Jong Un, he doesn't seem
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And he's certainly not been
interested in any any phase of

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negotiation

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is he switched switches, the
number one thing we know that

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they actually want, they want
negotiation. They do not want

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arm business. They want to be
seen as a full country. We can

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do that. Because China and
because arm sales,

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we could do it if we want it to
China or no China. No, we don't

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want to do all this to him. No,

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what I mean by that is we need
to have our spy crap over there

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to spy on China under the guise
of North Korea.

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Yes, China. And they China knows
this. And the thing they don't

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well, maybe he does mention
because somebody mentioned it,

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which is that the agreement we
have with South Korea to protect

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them at their attack is almost
almost the same as the agreement

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that China has with North Korea
if their attack a war with North

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Korea is now a war with China.

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Yeah, but we're not at war.
We're not going to go to any

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war. It's not going to happen. I
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sales are up and he's certainly
a

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hockey stick not been interested
in any any phase of negotiation.

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Is he saying from the point of
view of running that country of

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making sure that he's
consolidated power or making

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sure that everyone works for
him? Yeah, yeah.

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We know that the North Koreans
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missiles and successful in
detonating nuclear weapons and

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tests. The real trick is putting
those two things together. What

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are the chances that the North
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You know, very hard to say. But
the the feeling is that within

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the next four years, they could
have a missile system with a

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nuclear warhead that would be
credible, whether it would

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finally work when they push the
button hard to say but it would

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be credible and any president
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as a real threat. Sales just

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it's now there is one loading.
guy got plenty of these clips.

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But there's one more clip I want
to play for sure. Which is, this

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is the pack calm guy again. And
he decided to he went I think he

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went a little bit off script.
And he decides to discuss. See

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what I have it here. This is the
group that they Trump sent over.

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There's the Carl Vinson group,
which got the Carl Vinson, which

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is a big

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destroyer, aircraft carrier,
it's

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a huge carrier with a bunch of
boats around his ships around

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it. And I guess something was
written by the WaPo or WaPo.

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Somebody wrote something that
just is didn't fit it didn't

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leave was irked by it. And so he
corrects the record, pointing

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out that apparently the article
is just a piece of crap is the

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Karl vencer. Does it strike
group defense question.

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Here sorry,

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on the frontlines, I want to ask
my questions on on defending

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against missiles. And actually,
I want to ask it in two

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different areas. You described
some additional forces that we

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are putting into the region. I
know there have been some press

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reports that say that somehow
those forces are not able to

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defend against missiles launched
from North Korea. Let me just

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ask, Can American military
forces in that region defend

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themselves against missiles
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The Sherman Absolutely. There
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this morning for one of the
analysts that suggested that the

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Carl Vinson strike group and I
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we're talking about the Carl
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they're going to Carl Vinson
room, and then the Carl Vinson

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strike group with this
incredible capability to include

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two guided missile destroyers
and waning buyer and Michael

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Murphy in the Linkshare plane,
that somehow that that carrier

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strike group would not be able
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ballistic missiles. I believe
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that are both misleading and
they conflate apples and oranges

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if you will. We have ballistic
missile ships in the Sea of

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Japan in the sea that are
capable of defending against

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ballistic missile attacks.

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Where's this coming from? Do
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Do they just say it has
President Trump just said and do

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whatever you need to do? I
really want to know I mean, this

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I've never heard the rhetoric
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couple of years. Partially You
buy him with a big Armada? What

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is the end goal? Do we have a
big sale? I mean, when? When is

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the big? Is there a

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sales done to sales of those?
That crazy missile system that

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they put on the thought, Oh,
God, I have a bunch of the

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thought that God thought they
have a bunch of protesters a big

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stink going on in South Korea
because they don't want this

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thing and they don't want that.

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But the fortunate I mean, if the
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at what are they doing? Yeah, so
I think what's happened I think

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they got dragged into Congress.
And I don't know what what the

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point of this is. I think that's
why this guy is correcting the

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record on the defense
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Wow, okay, well, let's hear the
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North Korea does not have a
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weapon,

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but all we are told is be very
afraid they they can strap a new

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conduit they got this, oh,
they're gonna kill us. If they

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can't even hit a ship. They
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you see that are capable of
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missile attacks. North Korea
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missile anti ship weapon that
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strike group, the weapons that
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the carbon strike group or
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capabilities resident in that
strike group. If it flies, they

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will die if it's flying against
the COVID strike, Chris, I'm

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confident and that

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this is a great so this is a T
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If it flies, he will die. It
flies it will die.

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Sure if Kim Jong Hoon right
there. If it flies, he will die

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resident in that strike group.
If it flies, he will die if it's

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flying against the COVID.
Striker. So I'm confident and

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actually group's ability to not
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project power. If that is the
color that we received from the

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President, a secretary Professor
cheese. Yeah.

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It's very efficient, send
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meeting and that thing would be
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meanwhile, we know that we don't
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yet. Do we? I think that's still
unresolved.

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Well, no, I'm not saying it
sounds grim to meet with Kim

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Jong yum yum. In North Korea,
and the whole thing is over.

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Just getting a thing it's a huge
tourist trap after that. I don't

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know why they won't do that.
They just want to keep this up.

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And want to keep this bowl crap
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John Yong Yong, Kim Jong Yong
Yong. Kim Jong Yong Yong. Kim

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Jong Yong Yong.

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Yeah, well, I find it very
annoying to uh, here's

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what here's a good example of
how annoying it can get. This is

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Gingrich spitballing. I put on
this clip with with undressing

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fox, fox news, or one of these
outlets. And he's just a part of

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this whole scheme. I mean, when
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the show that that guy is trying
to drain the swamp, and talking

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about the kind of weird
corruption that goes on in

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Washington, DC, it's just part
of a lifestyle after a while,

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for there will be a military
coup, and he will be replaced by

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a more rational leader. Or we
will begin to take military

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actions, which could start with
things as simple as killing any

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missile that will be capable of
carrying a nuclear weapon, it

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could be steps that are short of
starting a war. And the question

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then is what does he do? To what
degree and we don't know the

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answer? To what degree does he
want to survive? To what degree

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does he think that if he's not
tough, that he won't survive in

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his own society because they'll
kill him?

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But his recent behavior, he's
killed a very skilled and Uncle

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he's killed.

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You're saying it wrong. He fed
his uncle to the dogs remember,

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he fed them to the dogs and
dogs. Behavior he's

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killed the birds killed an
uncle. He's killed. You know,

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other detractors.

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He caught a girlfriend. He
killed his girlfriend and her

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entire band. I mean

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I didn't hear about this.

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I didn't either. Ban what band
what band band are dead?

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I think if I'm okay with Kim
Jong Hoon killing bands, but I

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want us to help vote for which
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Yeah, the girlfriend. He killed
his girlfriend and her entire

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band. I mean, this is guy, this
guy who's unhinged is not. I

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think it's makes it in the
immediate future very, very

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dangerous.

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We look, I think what we've got
to consider here is if America

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is going to take this action, we
better be prepared for him if

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he's as mentally unstable, as
reports have said that he would

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go scorched earth. That's a
possibility. Now,

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what do you make of like, for
example, the President did have

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great meetings with the
President of China.

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All right, fine. Okay. I'm going
to tell you something right. By

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now they have nothing. They have
nothing. They have absolutely

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nothing. There's nothing we can
do whatever we want to classify.

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This is the media. It's
unbelievable. It's just talking

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about scorched earth they just
make it up. Go on and on. It's

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just to get excite the public
it's ridiculous. The fact of the

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matter is this liberal will be
all about socialized vaccine

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scumbag vaccine vaccine vaccine
tance

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I went here we go you get to go
first this is now we know the

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lens all love Maxine. That's
right. Got to keep my Maxine

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clip for the last bit. All the
millennials love the Maxine and

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I have from salon magazine The
TM fob you watch Yeah, this is

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the end of the MW Yeah, the M W.
Here's a Milena black Milan from

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salon telling us the top five
reasons why LM w should be the

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President of the United States

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something like if they were to
fill out of it. Today we're

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gonna give you five reasons why
Maxine Waters should be our next

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president. Number five, Maxine
understands the people that

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she's the fifth of 13 children
and she started working in

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segregated restaurants at the
age of 13. So you know how it

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worked isn't her blood. Number
four. Maxine Waters has an

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amazing reputation of being a
fearless outspoken advocate for

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women, the poor children, people
of color, pretty much everybody

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that was left out of the Trump
campaign fighting for what's

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right is not a new thing that
Maxine Waters before she was

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even elected to Congress. She
was out there on the frontlines

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fighting against divestment from
the South African apartheid

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regime. Number three, Maxine was
actually one of the few people

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who was against the one I read,
and that's something that

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Clinton Bush Trump really
figured out number two, she

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loves the millennials. I mean,
love a bag last week, she

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confessed her love for us on now
this was she talked about

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everything she's learned from us
and how she has to evolve with

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the people. She's learning the
language. She's using the

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internet. And we all move
forward because of that. The

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number one reason why we want
Maxine Waters to be our next

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president because she's not
afraid to attack the right she's

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had tough words for everybody
from Bill O'Reilly all the way

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up to the White House. Maxine
Waters is one of the only few

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Democrats that's stepping up.
She's not scared to talk about

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Trump, his ties to Russia and
let him know in her own words,

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bombing another country does not
make you presidential. These are

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tough times and it's tough times
need a tough leader. That's why

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I nominate Maxine Waters to be
our next president. Because

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again, Maxine Waters let you
notice she is a strong black

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woman. And she will not be
intimidated. So now that should

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you

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step away from the crowd. Right.

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Those days we just hear the
chorus Oh, yeah. Go that wasn't

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that was all the work I put in
last night to make that fit

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perfectly.

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Dynamite hit the post.

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That's a crazy world we live in.
But at least we're gonna give

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you the reality check. And I
would like to read you something

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which I remembered to get from
one of my many books here in the

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library. And you tell me where
this is from? You probably know.

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This may explain the situation
we're in today. Here we go.

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Atlas Shrugged.

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No, no. And if all others
accepted the lie which the party

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imposed, if all records told the
same tale, then the lie passed

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into history and became truth.
Who controls the past ran the

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party slogan controls the
future? Who controls the present

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controls the past and yet the
past, though of its nature

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alterable never had been
altered. Whatever was true now

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was true, from everlasting to
everlasting. It was quite

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simple. All that was needed was
an unending series of victories

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over your own memory. Reality
control. They called it in

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Newspeak, doublethink.

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1984 Yes, you

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are correct, sir. We're living
it.

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Living the dream. Unlimited
dream.

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Last night, no. Friday night. I
was able to introduce Tina the

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keeper to a no agenda favorite,
which we've talked about and I'm

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sure many people still have not
seen it. You need to see this

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movie and I was happy I saw it
again because I had no idea how

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many people were in this that
are now super superstars. Okay,

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and that is wag the dog.

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Oh, yeah. Great movie. And

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so it's Robert De Niro. He's a
gov fed and he has to because

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his the President's up for
reelection. He has some sex

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scandal with a 13 year old some
crazy stuff like that. He's a

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spook. Yeah, and And then he
goes to see Dustin Hoffman, the

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crazy producer, which by the
way, he's pretty much exactly

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the way crazy producers are
sometimes in those big houses

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running around and not giving a
crap thing. So and Tina at

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first, he said, Oh, this is like
how you and John always talk on

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the show. I said, Yes. Exactly.
Exactly. Exactly. And as we're

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watching this, she says, Wait a
minute, that because this is

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also this movie was produced by
Robert De Niro by Tribeca films.

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And what's the date on this
movie, just so we can get that

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straight. 1997 20

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years old, this movie is 20. And
already everything and they were

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still using blue screen for
chroma key effects before green

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screen became the norm. So that
gives you any idea. But what's

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funny is I kind of said, Wait a
minute. So De Niro produced this

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movie he stars in this movie. He
clearly understands the idea of

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propaganda being done through
Hollywood. Otherwise, you don't

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make this movie.

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Exactly. But yeah, a year

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ago, or less than a year ago,
this was the video that dinero

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released.

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I mean, he's so blatantly
stupid. He's a punk. He's a dog.

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He's a pig. He's a con artists a
month, who doesn't know what

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he's talking about, doesn't do
his homework, doesn't care,

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thinks his gaming society
doesn't pay his taxes. He's an

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idiot. Colin Powell said it
best. He's a national disaster.

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He's an embarrassment to this
country. It makes me so angry

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that this country has gotten to
this point that this fool this

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bozo has wound up where he has,
he talks how he wants to punch

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people in the face. Well, I'd
like to punch him in the face.

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This is somebody that we want
for President, I don't think so.

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What I care about is the
direction of this country. And

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what I'm very, very worried
about is that it might go in the

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wrong direction with someone
like Donald Trump.

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Now when I listen to this,
again, the two things I notice.

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One is it is exactly the same
cadence and timbre of voice that

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he used when he was the
government spook in the movie

451
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:10,560
and maybe he does that all the
time. Because I have to really,

452
00:27:10,650 --> 00:27:14,670
but this is very very similar.
So either a He's a moron and

453
00:27:14,670 --> 00:27:18,180
forgot all about wag the dog or
and this was my kind of my

454
00:27:18,180 --> 00:27:22,080
favorite part of wag the dog not
so much the video trickery but

455
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:26,700
when they were calling up during
the The Press You know the White

456
00:27:26,700 --> 00:27:31,260
House spokes holders doing a the
daily press briefing. And I

457
00:27:31,260 --> 00:27:33,270
think call them opposite. Okay,
have him say this and the

458
00:27:33,270 --> 00:27:35,550
guidance touches the earpiece
briefly, you know, like the

459
00:27:35,550 --> 00:27:39,150
sweaty Shawn version. And he
says whatever they have to say

460
00:27:39,150 --> 00:27:43,110
and then the denier launches
this, he explains to the to the

461
00:27:43,830 --> 00:27:46,980
PR department. He says the way
you gotta do it is you gotta

462
00:27:46,980 --> 00:27:49,200
say, Look, I don't this has
nothing to do with the B three

463
00:27:49,230 --> 00:27:52,260
bomber project, nothing at all.
And of course, there is no B

464
00:27:52,260 --> 00:27:54,990
three bomber project was
launching these these false and

465
00:27:55,050 --> 00:27:58,200
launching the memes. And maybe
that's what he intended to do

466
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:02,430
here. That he was actually in
that role trying to do a little

467
00:28:02,430 --> 00:28:03,480
bit of wag the dog.

468
00:28:04,409 --> 00:28:07,619
I have no idea what he was up to
when he did that. I think it's

469
00:28:07,649 --> 00:28:11,249
still up for interpretation. But
I like your your thought that

470
00:28:11,249 --> 00:28:14,339
he's using that same cadence.
Yeah. Because when he's on talk

471
00:28:14,339 --> 00:28:17,699
shows or anyplace else, he's he
doesn't talk with that. That is

472
00:28:17,729 --> 00:28:22,049
definitely the rest scripted.
Yeah, message that is that he's

473
00:28:22,049 --> 00:28:25,109
acting. Yes. For some reason.
What was it? Why was he doing

474
00:28:25,109 --> 00:28:29,339
it? It was and it was extreme.
It was not like, you know, Rosie

475
00:28:29,339 --> 00:28:32,969
O'Donnell or even Joy bay or
these people just going off on

476
00:28:32,969 --> 00:28:39,179
Trump. It was a long winded very
scripted message. It seems to me

477
00:28:39,179 --> 00:28:41,759
it had something there was
something about it was very

478
00:28:41,819 --> 00:28:42,389
unusual.

479
00:28:42,659 --> 00:28:46,199
Well let us do let's see. Let's
do it. Let's

480
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,750
let's do their first summary
this this this get people up to

481
00:28:48,750 --> 00:28:49,110
speed.

482
00:28:49,140 --> 00:28:52,170
I want to I want to do a side by
side of Rosie O'Donnell in

483
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:55,950
dinero. But maybe that's too
much for this early in the show.

484
00:28:56,730 --> 00:28:57,480
Yeah, might be

485
00:28:57,810 --> 00:29:00,420
fake balls are a real business
say,

486
00:29:00,420 --> 00:29:04,020
shall we? Since it's since the
beginning of the show. We're

487
00:29:04,020 --> 00:29:08,130
rested. We're we're fit. How
about a little quick trip in the

488
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,260
alternate universe transition
machine?

489
00:29:10,650 --> 00:29:13,620
Right off the bat. You're gonna
wear us out right away.

490
00:29:14,070 --> 00:29:44,730
Don't be ready. Do it man. We
can do this. It's not good with

491
00:29:44,730 --> 00:29:45,690
just black coffee.

492
00:29:46,020 --> 00:29:49,500
Where's that dog keep coming
from the alternate universe.

493
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:54,570
Obviously, to quit, I do
quickies two clips. The first

494
00:29:54,570 --> 00:29:58,380
one is regarding a topic we've
discussed many times the so

495
00:29:58,380 --> 00:30:02,820
called Goldwater rule And the
Goldwater rule stems from Barry

496
00:30:02,820 --> 00:30:06,780
Goldwater as a presidential
candidate. When psychiatrist

497
00:30:06,780 --> 00:30:10,860
were saying he's mentally
unstable, I'm not exactly sure

498
00:30:10,860 --> 00:30:17,070
what they claimed the diagnosis
to be. But then later after he

499
00:30:17,070 --> 00:30:21,270
lost, he sued them. And so in
medical circles, certainly

500
00:30:21,270 --> 00:30:25,470
psychiatric circles, there's a
Goldwater rule, thou shall not

501
00:30:26,100 --> 00:30:29,280
diagnose someone on television
or unless you have actually seen

502
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:31,410
them. And of course you
couldn't. There it is. There's

503
00:30:31,410 --> 00:30:37,710
one. That's my first of course,
that's my second. Interesting,

504
00:30:37,740 --> 00:30:40,500
it's the alternate reality where
I where I realize it isn't that

505
00:30:40,500 --> 00:30:45,240
interesting. So here is the
morning Joe's they have quite a

506
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:49,410
panel on and they're discussing.
Of course, President Trump's,

507
00:30:49,770 --> 00:30:50,640
you said it again.

508
00:30:53,550 --> 00:30:54,570
mental stability.

509
00:30:54,630 --> 00:30:57,450
bevor thought though, that the
guy that we've known for 1011 12

510
00:30:57,450 --> 00:31:00,390
years, would be that much of a
petulant brat,

511
00:31:00,419 --> 00:31:02,939
I also think, wow, there we go
right off the bat. Instead of

512
00:31:02,939 --> 00:31:06,269
saying petulant child, we've
we've, we've put one little dose

513
00:31:06,269 --> 00:31:09,089
on top of it saying petchem,
like rats, yes, good. That's

514
00:31:09,089 --> 00:31:09,839
good, very good.

515
00:31:10,500 --> 00:31:14,430
For 1011 12 years, would be that
much of a petulant brat.

516
00:31:14,460 --> 00:31:17,610
I also think it's time and I
know in the post cold war era,

517
00:31:17,610 --> 00:31:20,340
there's an unwritten rule in the
psychiatric community that

518
00:31:20,340 --> 00:31:23,250
nobody diagnosis from afar. I
just don't think he's well, guy.

519
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:23,910
We talked

520
00:31:23,909 --> 00:31:27,419
about this before how well the
guy is off right now mentally,

521
00:31:27,689 --> 00:31:33,839
and he's sane, rational person
would know. If I keep bringing

522
00:31:33,839 --> 00:31:38,849
attention to something, then I'm
going to keep churning up the

523
00:31:38,849 --> 00:31:43,409
attention on something. And it
is not going to be in my best

524
00:31:43,409 --> 00:31:44,129
interest is a

525
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,560
disorder essentially, it was an
Oracle over the weekend about

526
00:31:46,590 --> 00:31:50,280
election night that right even
after his triumph, he was

527
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:53,790
fixated on a three day old
negative article they literally

528
00:31:53,790 --> 00:31:57,120
couldn't get him off of and, and
that's what this is. I don't

529
00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,790
know what the disorder is. And
I'm not being glib that

530
00:31:59,790 --> 00:32:03,000
regardless of what else is going
on, if he's been praying in a

531
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:06,870
certain area, there is a
inability physiologically for

532
00:32:06,870 --> 00:32:08,100
him to move off of it.

533
00:32:08,129 --> 00:32:12,959
That is not a healthy, normal,
well functioning man. There's,

534
00:32:13,110 --> 00:32:18,000
most people are like that tons.
Almost everybody has something

535
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,670
that they just can't let go of
and hold on to it's not this is

536
00:32:20,670 --> 00:32:26,130
not diagnosis for being a nut
job. I digress.

537
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:30,150
Well functioning man, if there's
no rational reason why he should

538
00:32:30,150 --> 00:32:30,930
be doing this,

539
00:32:31,679 --> 00:32:34,769
to stop, yeah, here's your
irony. You just pointed out.

540
00:32:35,369 --> 00:32:40,049
These are the guys who are
upset. Exactly.

541
00:32:40,740 --> 00:32:42,990
That's how the alternate
universe functions

542
00:32:43,020 --> 00:32:44,070
move off of it. That is

543
00:32:44,070 --> 00:32:49,200
not a healthy, move off. Move
off of it. Nailed it. To move

544
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:49,560
off of

545
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:54,600
it. That is not a healthy,
normal, well functioning man is

546
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:58,170
no rational reason why you
should be doing this every day.

547
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:01,230
Even if you think he's a
cynical, horrible human being.

548
00:33:02,250 --> 00:33:02,910
This hurts him.

549
00:33:03,210 --> 00:33:06,660
Right. But everything now points
to certain disorders. I am that

550
00:33:06,660 --> 00:33:10,530
my hair is not on fire. But I am
not a clinician and I once

551
00:33:10,530 --> 00:33:11,490
again, we know

552
00:33:12,330 --> 00:33:13,500
I'm not a doctor,

553
00:33:13,530 --> 00:33:15,960
what are those two things have
in common? Common? My hair is

554
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,870
not on fire. And I'm not a
doctor

555
00:33:18,900 --> 00:33:20,970
clinician. Is it the same?

556
00:33:22,050 --> 00:33:25,650
Every day? Even if you think
he's a cynical, horrible psycho?

557
00:33:26,010 --> 00:33:30,480
Yes, he is. Should be doing this
every day. Even if you think

558
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:34,380
he's a cynical, horrible human
being. This hurts him,

559
00:33:34,650 --> 00:33:38,520
right. But everything now points
to certain disorders. My hair is

560
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:42,540
not on fire, blood, and I am not
a clinician and I once again, we

561
00:33:42,570 --> 00:33:46,470
know doctors don't diagnose.
There's a he's not well, in many

562
00:33:46,470 --> 00:33:48,750
ways. If anybody who's behaving
in this way, if a school teacher

563
00:33:48,750 --> 00:33:50,730
was being this way, if your
friend was behaving this way,

564
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:52,680
you'd be concerned if

565
00:33:53,940 --> 00:33:58,080
any CEO behaved this way, they
would have been fired by the

566
00:33:58,080 --> 00:33:59,670
board. Oh, are

567
00:33:59,670 --> 00:34:02,700
you kidding me? Let me try a

568
00:34:02,700 --> 00:34:03,690
couple of fight away.

569
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:07,770
I have let me try a couple. They
said that. How about Ray lane?

570
00:34:07,770 --> 00:34:08,430
Let's try him.

571
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:09,840
But anybody?

572
00:34:09,870 --> 00:34:13,140
How about any any any any guy
any executive

573
00:34:13,140 --> 00:34:18,720
Mr. Comer who likes to scream
insane nut jobs, or Bill Gates,

574
00:34:18,720 --> 00:34:21,360
who says he has a number of
disparaging remarks to make

575
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:22,650
constantly to people or

576
00:34:22,650 --> 00:34:26,850
how about Steve Jobs? You're
holding your phone wrong? Come

577
00:34:26,850 --> 00:34:30,540
on. Yeah, sure. Okay. That's
that's not how it

578
00:34:30,540 --> 00:34:34,470
works. So these guys are
clueless. Yeah, almost. If a CEO

579
00:34:34,470 --> 00:34:36,780
doesn't act that way, you're you
go. Wow,

580
00:34:36,810 --> 00:34:40,170
yeah. How about Jack Welch? How
about some of the the roughest,

581
00:34:40,350 --> 00:34:43,410
toughest guys in industry
captains of industry? Sure.

582
00:34:43,410 --> 00:34:44,070
They're like that

583
00:34:44,100 --> 00:34:46,170
the school teachers being this
way if your friend was behaving

584
00:34:46,170 --> 00:34:48,600
this way, you'd be concerned if

585
00:34:49,860 --> 00:34:54,000
any CEO behaved this way. They
would have been fired by the

586
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,250
board. 60 days ago.

587
00:34:56,820 --> 00:35:00,270
Did Hillary Clinton apologize
for receiving the answer? As you

588
00:35:00,300 --> 00:35:03,810
debate me just asking, swear to
God, this guy's tweeting right

589
00:35:03,810 --> 00:35:07,830
now our president, leader of the
free world, he's got his fingers

590
00:35:07,830 --> 00:35:10,800
on the button. He's tweeting
about Hillary. Are you kidding

591
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:12,450
me? Hillary and the debate?

592
00:35:12,450 --> 00:35:13,410
Nobody cares.

593
00:35:13,770 --> 00:35:19,020
Nobody, nobody on the planet
cares because there's one thing

594
00:35:19,020 --> 00:35:19,650
you can say.

595
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:20,850
I can

596
00:35:22,110 --> 00:35:24,090
What do you think he's prompting
her to say?

597
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,710
I have no idea. I don't watch
the show. Oh, it's

598
00:35:29,339 --> 00:35:32,039
it's it's like the best start to
my day.

599
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:35,190
Apparently it is. You love this
show? Wait for it.

600
00:35:35,220 --> 00:35:39,840
Nobody on the planet care
camera. Oh, there's one person

601
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:42,900
you can say it. I can. The
amendment thing.

602
00:35:43,109 --> 00:35:48,389
Oh, it's time for article 25/25
amendment. Let's do it. And the

603
00:35:48,389 --> 00:35:51,329
psychiatrist to step no
seriously that there are people

604
00:35:51,329 --> 00:35:54,329
who need to really think about
that. How long do they want this

605
00:35:54,359 --> 00:35:54,899
to last?

606
00:35:56,610 --> 00:36:00,540
She's still on the 25th
amendment or 25 About obsessing

607
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:03,240
article 25 As she calls it,
which is something different.

608
00:36:03,510 --> 00:36:08,400
This Ultimate Universe story
come from a game from the

609
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:11,130
alternate universe. Now we were
talking about North Korea or at

610
00:36:11,130 --> 00:36:15,720
least the morning alternate
universe Don't you feel that we

611
00:36:15,720 --> 00:36:17,910
have we taken the ride backward?
Definitely. And

612
00:36:17,910 --> 00:36:20,130
I know but I don't know that
you're changing the subject

613
00:36:20,130 --> 00:36:21,690
outside of the universe. No, I'm

614
00:36:21,690 --> 00:36:24,420
keeping it to North Korea. Okay,
I

615
00:36:24,420 --> 00:36:25,290
got North Korea.

616
00:36:25,740 --> 00:36:30,000
Let me start with my alternate
universe from the View My other

617
00:36:30,030 --> 00:36:31,470
favorite start to the morning.

618
00:36:33,510 --> 00:36:44,940
Everybody faces he needs to be
taken out of office Kim Jong

619
00:36:44,940 --> 00:36:46,170
young young crazy so

620
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:50,820
now it's Kim Jong Yong Yong.

621
00:36:53,100 --> 00:36:55,770
Zhang Yong Yong. It listen to
that again.

622
00:36:56,550 --> 00:36:58,080
It's Kim Jong Yong Yong.

623
00:37:04,620 --> 00:37:06,240
Kim Jong Yong Yong is crazy

624
00:37:17,370 --> 00:37:20,100
without further ado, even though
we're in the alternate universe,

625
00:37:20,100 --> 00:37:22,620
I guess you could play this
backwards. You get clipped with

626
00:37:22,620 --> 00:37:23,610
the day for that doll.

627
00:37:23,610 --> 00:37:25,800
Thank you so much that it's just
too time.

628
00:37:29,220 --> 00:37:32,550
John Yong Yong Kim John. John
Yong Yong.

629
00:37:33,990 --> 00:37:35,520
Kim Jeong Yong Yong.

630
00:37:36,450 --> 00:37:37,410
Yong Yong.

631
00:37:40,140 --> 00:37:44,790
Do you have any? I can't get it
out of my head. I was flipping

632
00:37:44,790 --> 00:37:48,120
out yesterday. And I'm walking
around going Kim Jong Yong Yong

633
00:37:48,150 --> 00:37:52,860
Kim. Every time you hear that
it's time to donate. Tell me

634
00:37:52,860 --> 00:37:57,000
about this sexuality. It's in
your DNA. There's a new book

635
00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:01,650
coming out about President
Obama. And there's a very

636
00:38:01,650 --> 00:38:05,640
interesting little nugget in
here. This is what does it call

637
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:10,290
this book is rising star the
making of Barack Obama written

638
00:38:10,290 --> 00:38:16,350
by historian David Garrow. He is
a Pulitzer Prize winner. He

639
00:38:16,350 --> 00:38:19,590
wrote, bearing the cross a
biography of Martin Luther King

640
00:38:19,590 --> 00:38:22,800
Jr. Of course, he's a regular
contributor to The New York

641
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,410
Times and Whopper Whopper
Whopper Whopper Whopper WaPo.

642
00:38:26,430 --> 00:38:31,740
And in this very interesting he
wrote in this book about a

643
00:38:31,740 --> 00:38:35,880
relationship that President
Obama had in his two years at

644
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,430
Occidental College which we know
nothing about those records have

645
00:38:38,430 --> 00:38:42,210
been sealed his relationship
with openly gay Professor

646
00:38:42,210 --> 00:38:43,440
Lawrence Golden,

647
00:38:43,860 --> 00:38:46,860
and why yes, I know about this.
Yeah, quote from the book.

648
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:50,940
Golden made a huge impact on
Barry Obama. Notice he's calling

649
00:38:50,940 --> 00:38:54,630
him Barry here. Why? Why does no
one call him Barry in real life?

650
00:38:54,630 --> 00:38:58,920
Why is it always only now? Why
don't we call him that in when

651
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:01,710
he was in office? Anyway,

652
00:39:02,279 --> 00:39:03,599
you're asking nobody

653
00:39:03,630 --> 00:39:06,780
golden made a huge impact on
Barry Obama, as he wrote in the

654
00:39:06,780 --> 00:39:09,180
book almost a quarter century
later asked about his

655
00:39:09,180 --> 00:39:13,380
understanding of gay issues.
Obama enthusiastically said,

656
00:39:13,410 --> 00:39:16,620
quote, My favorite professor, my
first year in college is one of

657
00:39:16,620 --> 00:39:19,770
the first openly gay people that
I knew he was a terrific guy

658
00:39:19,830 --> 00:39:23,160
with whom Obama developed,
quote, a friendship beyond the

659
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:27,390
classroom. Three years later,
Obama wrote something elusively

660
00:39:27,390 --> 00:39:30,330
to his first intimate girlfriend
that he had thought about and

661
00:39:30,330 --> 00:39:33,840
considered gayness but
ultimately had decided that a

662
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:37,260
same sex relationship would be
less challenging and demanding

663
00:39:37,260 --> 00:39:39,960
than developing one with the
opposite sex again, this is all

664
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:44,760
in the book, but there's no
doubting that golden gave 18

665
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:47,820
year old berry a vastly more
positive and uplifting image of

666
00:39:47,820 --> 00:39:50,250
gay identity and self confidence
then he had known in Holland

667
00:39:50,250 --> 00:39:54,660
Honolulu. There's an interview
with with this author about

668
00:39:55,020 --> 00:39:59,040
about this particular while by a
number of things, but about the

669
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:01,470
President considered gayness and
go back on it.

670
00:40:01,950 --> 00:40:05,610
Let me rephrase one of the
conspiracies. Was there any time

671
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:09,150
in Brock Obama's life that he
experimented outside of a

672
00:40:09,150 --> 00:40:10,530
heterosexual lifestyle?

673
00:40:11,220 --> 00:40:18,990
I think anyone and everyone, no
matter what their role in life

674
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:29,610
deserves a certain basic degree
of privacy in that context. So

675
00:40:29,610 --> 00:40:34,020
that's not something that I
speculate upon either in the

676
00:40:34,020 --> 00:40:41,580
book or or in speaking about
him. Prior to Michelle Robinson,

677
00:40:42,930 --> 00:40:51,480
Barak had three major serious
relationships. Alex, Genevieve,

678
00:40:51,870 --> 00:40:54,930
both of their names are already
on the public record. And

679
00:40:54,930 --> 00:40:57,780
by the way, pretty big stripper
names right that Genevieve

680
00:40:57,780 --> 00:40:58,290
plays,

681
00:40:58,980 --> 00:41:09,720
but one should not look at those
relationships as being more

682
00:41:09,720 --> 00:41:14,790
important in kind than his the
guy

683
00:41:14,790 --> 00:41:16,140
is trying to say Yes,

684
00:41:16,170 --> 00:41:19,800
exactly. Yeah, he blew the guy
like I don't even have to fast

685
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,350
forward the clip. Yeah, he blew
the guy. But here's the problem.

686
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:26,970
If Obama considered gayness,
which is the quote from the

687
00:41:26,970 --> 00:41:31,200
book, I'm not making this word
up. But he decided it would be

688
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:35,370
same sex relationship be less
challenging. But does that now

689
00:41:35,370 --> 00:41:36,150
mean that

690
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:39,210
they would that? I think that
says it all? Well, the comedy

691
00:41:39,210 --> 00:41:42,870
No, it's less. Yeah. Here's
less. Here's our body. No, it's

692
00:41:43,020 --> 00:41:45,090
It's less challenging unless he
did it.

693
00:41:45,240 --> 00:41:48,750
I don't care about whether he
did it or not. I do. Here's the

694
00:41:48,750 --> 00:41:54,840
issue. So apparently, it is a
choice. You're not born that

695
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:58,890
way. It's a choice. The
President

696
00:41:58,890 --> 00:42:00,120
made a choice President it

697
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:04,800
definitely was. Yeah. But he is
the leader of the dimension be

698
00:42:05,790 --> 00:42:07,950
where everyone's at. You can't
if you're gay, you're gay. So

699
00:42:08,370 --> 00:42:13,020
you have no choice in the
matter. But apparently you do.

700
00:42:13,860 --> 00:42:14,430
Well, he

701
00:42:14,430 --> 00:42:14,940
did.

702
00:42:15,750 --> 00:42:16,560
He's pretty important.

703
00:42:17,339 --> 00:42:20,069
Guy his specific experiences.

704
00:42:21,270 --> 00:42:22,950
I think you understand the point
I'm making.

705
00:42:22,980 --> 00:42:25,740
I know what you're trying to
make this point. People try to

706
00:42:25,740 --> 00:42:29,370
make it and I think it's a good
point to make. If you want to

707
00:42:29,370 --> 00:42:33,090
make it I not a subscriber to
either side of that argument.

708
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:36,300
I'm not saying that's my belief.
I'm just saying, you know, you

709
00:42:36,300 --> 00:42:41,010
can sit and pontificate about
how it's a choice. It's not a

710
00:42:41,010 --> 00:42:44,070
choice. You're born that way.
And then you make it you make a

711
00:42:44,070 --> 00:42:45,780
choice. Yeah, that's, that's no

712
00:42:47,250 --> 00:42:49,680
hypocrisy that you're bitching
about? Yes.

713
00:42:49,710 --> 00:42:53,850
I don't care what he does. We
all know that. We all know that.

714
00:42:54,180 --> 00:42:57,180
That Reggie Love was his lover.
We all know that those kids are

715
00:42:57,210 --> 00:43:00,330
not his but they're Scottie
Pippen and Stevie Wonder. We

716
00:43:00,330 --> 00:43:01,080
know, we know.

717
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:07,260
JP wonder. I'm I. I don't I'm
less concerned about that.

718
00:43:07,260 --> 00:43:10,800
Anyway, as as opposed to my
concern that he's a Muslim.

719
00:43:11,130 --> 00:43:18,300
Yeah. Yeah. And that the head of
the CIA, Brennan was a Muslim.

720
00:43:18,420 --> 00:43:21,750
Well, besides, and they're not I
don't mind people being a Muslim

721
00:43:21,750 --> 00:43:25,410
in office. I don't like people
that are hiding hiding it. Yeah.

722
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:29,910
Because Why are you hiding this?
Yes. Are you a subversive

723
00:43:29,910 --> 00:43:33,390
Muslim? That's what you're doing
by hiding it? If you're openly

724
00:43:33,390 --> 00:43:36,420
mugwort then of course, he's,
there's political reasons not to

725
00:43:36,450 --> 00:43:38,550
brag about being a Muslim if
you're the president of the

726
00:43:38,550 --> 00:43:45,090
United States, they you know,
Barack Hussein there's your

727
00:43:45,090 --> 00:43:47,400
people go oh, my God, I don't
know maybe I shouldn't vote for

728
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:50,670
him. Because these Muslims, I
don't like these Muslims. But on

729
00:43:50,670 --> 00:43:54,870
the other hand, it would be like
he's got to come out and say,

730
00:43:54,900 --> 00:43:58,500
Look, I was a Muslim. I didn't
blow up the country or anything.

731
00:43:58,500 --> 00:44:00,300
I don't know. Someone was had
mixed feelings.

732
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:02,670
Well, but he's you know, he's
being very quiet right now.

733
00:44:02,670 --> 00:44:06,780
Although he gets a total pass. I
you know, this, this being on

734
00:44:06,780 --> 00:44:09,390
the yacht? Well, no, this wall
doable that this Wall Street

735
00:44:09,390 --> 00:44:12,270
company that is doing this
$400,000 speech for Do you know

736
00:44:12,270 --> 00:44:16,740
what, what the what the setting
is for this speech? I don't know

737
00:44:16,740 --> 00:44:21,000
Bahamas healthcare conference.
This is his pro quo. This is the

738
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:21,960
payoff.

739
00:44:22,470 --> 00:44:25,440
For all the insurance companies.
Yes. Big payers your money.

740
00:44:25,620 --> 00:44:28,230
Yeah, you get it. It's not
unusual to get

741
00:44:29,190 --> 00:44:31,590
Hillary Clinton pioneered this.

742
00:44:32,070 --> 00:44:38,040
Yeah, you get the money later.
That way you can go testify and

743
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:40,470
say did you get paid for this
and you can set you can say with

744
00:44:40,470 --> 00:44:44,910
honesty say I've not been paid a
nickel for this opinion. I've

745
00:44:44,910 --> 00:44:49,710
not been paid a nickel to do
this. And then you may get some

746
00:44:49,710 --> 00:44:51,810
money afterwards as a thank you.

747
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:57,330
Yeah. Seems like thank you for
for one speech. Sounds pretty

748
00:44:57,330 --> 00:44:57,570
good. He's

749
00:44:57,570 --> 00:45:00,330
gonna get a lot more thank yous
in that four and 1000 dollars

750
00:45:00,330 --> 00:45:02,220
and definitely you got some

751
00:45:04,859 --> 00:45:05,639
distraction

752
00:45:13,110 --> 00:45:16,950
now we can we're gonna take a
little trip here into a fabulous

753
00:45:16,950 --> 00:45:20,850
example of dimension a dimension
be in the same place looking at

754
00:45:20,850 --> 00:45:26,430
the same information and arguing
and I'm sad to say this happened

755
00:45:26,430 --> 00:45:30,750
on the view but that's just what
it is you got to take it but it

756
00:45:30,750 --> 00:45:34,290
is it is important because these
are women's issues women are

757
00:45:34,290 --> 00:45:37,680
getting screwed over well you
know we all want your Hillary

758
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:43,230
lost because of men so now we so
there's the two of me I think

759
00:45:43,230 --> 00:45:45,960
it's it's sunny hosta Houston
sunny hosted who's the

760
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:46,710
Republican?

761
00:45:47,550 --> 00:45:49,020
And you're asking me Yeah, I

762
00:45:49,020 --> 00:45:52,470
know crazy. It doesn't matter.
It'll be very apparent who's

763
00:45:52,470 --> 00:45:58,830
who. I found this. This entire
conversation just fan tastic

764
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:02,460
from a split universe alternate
universe dimension a dimension B

765
00:46:02,460 --> 00:46:03,030
perspective,

766
00:46:03,450 --> 00:46:06,990
with some reasons as to why he
or she overlooked and stuff or

767
00:46:07,110 --> 00:46:10,230
this was the most unimpressed
I've been with Hillary Clinton.

768
00:46:10,230 --> 00:46:12,630
Every time I see her do an
interview, I'm waiting for a

769
00:46:12,630 --> 00:46:16,290
moment where she just doesn't
blame anyone but herself and

770
00:46:16,290 --> 00:46:18,090
acknowledges why they lost what
you

771
00:46:18,090 --> 00:46:20,850
can imagine this is getting the
other ladies on the view kind of

772
00:46:20,850 --> 00:46:21,510
riled up.

773
00:46:21,900 --> 00:46:24,570
The reason why she lost was that
her foreign policy at the State

774
00:46:24,570 --> 00:46:27,240
Department was a disaster. Her
intervention in Libya led to

775
00:46:27,240 --> 00:46:29,460
terrorists havens and the
infiltration of ISIS.

776
00:46:30,090 --> 00:46:34,110
My My head was going what you
say in this interview what she

777
00:46:34,110 --> 00:46:36,840
lost because she picked a bad
vice presidential candidate. She

778
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:39,690
didn't do proper groundwork in
states like Wisconsin, and

779
00:46:39,690 --> 00:46:42,780
states like Michigan and states
like Pennsylvania, she lied to

780
00:46:42,780 --> 00:46:45,060
people she made the decision you
bring up

781
00:46:45,060 --> 00:46:49,080
the line, please don't doubt the
line about people. Okay.

782
00:46:49,740 --> 00:46:52,860
Let's let's not put lies in
because if we're gonna compare

783
00:46:54,480 --> 00:47:01,170
Whoopi Goldberg defending
Hillary about lying, she lied.

784
00:47:01,170 --> 00:47:04,890
She told the email server she
completely lied. But you can't

785
00:47:04,890 --> 00:47:07,950
say that according to will be.
Now

786
00:47:12,180 --> 00:47:16,560
the line I just can't handle. Go
ahead and go ahead. No, no, I

787
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:19,080
was I was gonna let you finish
if you had, but I

788
00:47:19,140 --> 00:47:22,560
that's kind of misogynist there.
Go ahead. Babe. Did you hear me?

789
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:30,450
Go ahead, babe. She said Go
ahead. Go ahead. With the line I

790
00:47:30,450 --> 00:47:32,730
just can't handle. Go ahead. Go
ahead.

791
00:47:33,689 --> 00:47:37,589
No, no, I was I was gonna let
you. But I tend to agree. I was

792
00:47:37,589 --> 00:47:40,379
a little shocked when I saw her
say that at first. Because I

793
00:47:40,379 --> 00:47:43,109
think there was a moment after
the election when so many of us

794
00:47:43,109 --> 00:47:45,629
stopped after looking at those
polls in the build up. And we

795
00:47:45,629 --> 00:47:48,479
were like, what did we miss? In
some ways? I think she might

796
00:47:48,479 --> 00:47:52,229
still be missing some of it. I
think if she had said these both

797
00:47:52,229 --> 00:47:55,919
were a part of the problem. But
that they miss it. She knew what

798
00:47:55,919 --> 00:47:59,909
she did by actually eggs. She
said do you take any

799
00:47:59,909 --> 00:48:02,939
responsibility for this? And I
found that the fact that out of

800
00:48:02,939 --> 00:48:05,039
the gates her answer was the
Russian thing and call me

801
00:48:05,039 --> 00:48:07,529
because I think there were there
were messaging problems. She

802
00:48:07,529 --> 00:48:09,659
wasn't on the ground. A lot of
the people that spoke up

803
00:48:09,660 --> 00:48:19,020
won 3 million more votes than
Donald out there. The FBI was

804
00:48:19,020 --> 00:48:23,430
investigating Trump's Russia
ties. And since July, and they

805
00:48:23,430 --> 00:48:27,000
only mentioned that this market,
they mentioned it in attorney

806
00:48:27,180 --> 00:48:30,300
voted for her. I was I'm Hillary
Clinton supporter. But what I'm

807
00:48:30,300 --> 00:48:33,360
saying is I was disappointed by
the interview. Because to me at

808
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:36,930
this moment, what she needed to
say was we missed the mark and a

809
00:48:36,930 --> 00:48:40,380
lot of ways there were things we
didn't hear. And it shows me in

810
00:48:40,380 --> 00:48:42,930
this interview, she might still
not be she might still be

811
00:48:42,930 --> 00:48:44,370
missing. I don't know that she
missed

812
00:48:44,370 --> 00:48:47,100
the mark. I don't know the human
study. She also lost the

813
00:48:47,100 --> 00:48:49,620
election because the election
isn't run by the popular vote.

814
00:48:49,620 --> 00:48:51,570
It's run by the Electoral
College and she's a seasoned

815
00:48:51,570 --> 00:48:54,720
politician. And she should know
that those states that she

816
00:48:54,720 --> 00:48:59,100
skipped out on those states to
really

817
00:48:59,399 --> 00:49:03,419
enjoy. Oh, she knows that come
on. Well, she knew she maybe she

818
00:49:03,419 --> 00:49:04,199
would have gone should

819
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:07,350
know that those states that she
skipped out on those states to

820
00:49:07,710 --> 00:49:12,630
go to the really she suffered
because that's what cost her the

821
00:49:12,630 --> 00:49:14,100
election. People in the

822
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:20,550
third was FBI Director Comey
will cost her the election and

823
00:49:20,610 --> 00:49:25,560
in my humble opinion, is is is
Russia's hacking and will cost

824
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:29,640
her the election is if you look
at the stats, people this was I

825
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:32,940
agree with White Van Jones in a
sense, this was a white lash.

826
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:34,290
There's been studies.

827
00:49:34,980 --> 00:49:38,130
Oh, wait a minute. This we're
blaming it on men were blamed on

828
00:49:38,130 --> 00:49:38,490
white

829
00:49:38,490 --> 00:49:42,630
people were voted the same way
people voted for Obama. She's

830
00:49:42,630 --> 00:49:43,140
gonna make that

831
00:49:43,140 --> 00:49:44,130
point here. Actually.

832
00:49:45,270 --> 00:49:48,600
I agree with white. Van Jones.
In a sense, this was a white

833
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:53,580
lash. There's there have been
studies 20% of people voted

834
00:49:53,610 --> 00:49:55,260
because of racism.

835
00:49:55,290 --> 00:49:59,250
This is great. I need to see
this study. So people said

836
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:02,850
racist Um, I can't vote for her
because she's white unlike the

837
00:50:02,850 --> 00:50:07,770
other guy who's she's also out
yeah, this is bad mentioned

838
00:50:07,770 --> 00:50:09,630
be like, racism. He's

839
00:50:09,629 --> 00:50:16,949
20% of people voted because of
racism. And I think after your

840
00:50:16,949 --> 00:50:20,699
race, there was no way that this
woman was going to

841
00:50:20,700 --> 00:50:23,160
win twice there, which we
elected a black president twice

842
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:25,920
because he was a good candidate.
She was not a good candidate.

843
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:26,010
And

844
00:50:27,630 --> 00:50:29,940
here's the truth about her my
opinion, she would have made a

845
00:50:29,940 --> 00:50:33,990
great president. She was not a
great candidate. But she would

846
00:50:33,990 --> 00:50:37,320
have been a great president. He
was an interesting candidates.

847
00:50:42,450 --> 00:50:45,090
Let's face it, Putin wants to
make America great again, let's

848
00:50:45,090 --> 00:50:45,300
start

849
00:50:48,660 --> 00:50:52,230
with the most qualified
candidate for president that we

850
00:50:52,380 --> 00:50:55,470
ever really

851
00:50:57,090 --> 00:51:02,730
that old bromide. Yeah, she was
more qualified than Dwight D.

852
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:06,030
Eisenhower and her head is gone.
Oh, there's a good spot to

853
00:51:06,030 --> 00:51:09,810
break. Let's stop this right now
and discuss what we this has

854
00:51:09,810 --> 00:51:13,470
been very funny, as usual, very
well produced. Ah,

855
00:51:14,070 --> 00:51:17,790
it amazes me how much first of
all, how much work he does on

856
00:51:17,790 --> 00:51:18,420
these things or

857
00:51:18,750 --> 00:51:22,650
just tried to do these things.
It's extremely difficult. You

858
00:51:22,650 --> 00:51:25,740
work for hours and hours, and
you end up spent it's almost

859
00:51:25,740 --> 00:51:28,620
like video editing, where you
spend 10 hours to get one hour

860
00:51:28,650 --> 00:51:29,130
also, I get

861
00:51:29,130 --> 00:51:34,260
pretty sick of us when doing it.
Oh, I mean, I already talked to

862
00:51:34,260 --> 00:51:37,260
you all the time. Now. You know,
we got to do this damn best of

863
00:51:37,590 --> 00:51:40,830
Yeah, well, we have to mention
that to people who wanted or

864
00:51:40,830 --> 00:51:43,710
that donated for this show will
be mentioned on the Sunday show,

865
00:51:43,710 --> 00:51:47,520
which is coming up in a couple
of days. And we're still on the

866
00:51:47,700 --> 00:51:51,000
3837 voting kick.

867
00:51:51,450 --> 00:51:54,660
So yes, we have the full tally
on Sunday's program.

868
00:51:54,690 --> 00:51:58,410
Yes. So if you have 38 at 38
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869
00:51:58,410 --> 00:52:01,920
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870
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:03,690
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871
00:52:03,690 --> 00:52:07,200
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We're over the you know, we're

872
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:11,040
past our prime for sure I don't
know about about any of the

873
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:13,980
other stuff. We're no longer the
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874
00:52:14,460 --> 00:52:17,670
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875
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877
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:30,540
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878
00:52:30,540 --> 00:52:30,630
you'll

879
00:52:30,630 --> 00:52:34,830
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880
00:52:34,830 --> 00:52:37,650
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881
00:52:37,650 --> 00:52:40,110
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882
00:52:40,110 --> 00:52:42,300
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883
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884
00:52:45,720 --> 00:52:48,450
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885
00:52:48,450 --> 00:52:54,870
Sunday show go to
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886
00:52:54,930 --> 00:52:56,040
A now back

887
00:52:56,040 --> 00:53:03,330
to the second half of Ramsey
canes best have no agenda. Tavis

888
00:53:03,330 --> 00:53:08,640
Smiley over there on the PBS. He
had the Reiners on both Rob and

889
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:13,980
Carl. It's a double treble two
barrels. And you want to hear

890
00:53:13,980 --> 00:53:15,120
some dimension B.

891
00:53:16,620 --> 00:53:19,350
Yeah, that's all dimension B.

892
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:21,930
So what do you make of the art
of the deal that he did last

893
00:53:21,930 --> 00:53:22,740
week on health care,

894
00:53:22,770 --> 00:53:31,530
beautiful. Class just worked out
perfectly? Very hard now to take

895
00:53:31,530 --> 00:53:33,690
away everything from poor
people. Yeah,

896
00:53:33,750 --> 00:53:35,760
so the rich people get a tax
break.

897
00:53:36,330 --> 00:53:41,160
That's a very, this is the most
scary time in our country in

898
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:45,810
terms of leadership, we have a
person who is clearly mentally

899
00:53:45,810 --> 00:53:49,830
unstable, who has no
understanding of government or

900
00:53:49,830 --> 00:53:54,660
policy has no desire to know
about it is an egomaniac and is

901
00:53:54,660 --> 00:53:58,500
a pathological liar. Bingo,
boom. Shakalaka. I mean, it's

902
00:53:58,500 --> 00:54:00,780
really a scary to what's
happened

903
00:54:01,500 --> 00:54:07,320
to go from having the smartest
president we've had since way

904
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:11,550
back to this guy is crazy. It is
crazy. It's nuts.

905
00:54:12,150 --> 00:54:16,350
I mean, I feel so sorry for
Obama. I can't believe how He

906
00:54:16,350 --> 00:54:19,620
must feel today. But the minute
they start, you know, putting

907
00:54:19,620 --> 00:54:22,560
somebody like Judge Gorsuch. I'm
not saying he's not qualified.

908
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:25,890
I'm not saying he's not a great
jurist or whatever. I don't

909
00:54:25,890 --> 00:54:27,600
agree with him on a lot of
things

910
00:54:27,630 --> 00:54:30,450
whenever someone says that and I
hear this a lot well, I don't

911
00:54:30,450 --> 00:54:33,780
agree with him on a lot of
things. I tend to say like what

912
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:35,430
like what

913
00:54:36,210 --> 00:54:38,910
but that's not right that a
president should have that

914
00:54:38,910 --> 00:54:39,270
right.

915
00:54:39,300 --> 00:54:42,210
That's exactly that by the way.
Smiley. Smiley should have done

916
00:54:42,210 --> 00:54:44,970
that right there on that right
there. Yeah, just what don't you

917
00:54:44,970 --> 00:54:46,410
agree with him on? Yeah, well, a

918
00:54:46,410 --> 00:54:48,270
lot of a lot of things. Let's
call him out.

919
00:54:48,450 --> 00:54:52,110
A lot of things. A great jurist
or whatever. I don't agree with

920
00:54:52,110 --> 00:54:54,720
him on a lot of things. But
that's not

921
00:54:54,780 --> 00:54:58,440
even left a breath pause. Smiley
could have come in easily

922
00:54:58,470 --> 00:55:02,580
right. Easily president should
have that right who could be

923
00:55:02,580 --> 00:55:05,580
illegitimate and also could be
doing have done things that are

924
00:55:05,580 --> 00:55:06,210
illegal and

925
00:55:06,210 --> 00:55:08,370
that on top of a congress who
wouldn't give the last guy a

926
00:55:08,370 --> 00:55:08,820
hearing?

927
00:55:08,850 --> 00:55:12,510
Well, that's that's another
conversation altogether. And

928
00:55:12,510 --> 00:55:17,550
that, to me is all about. I hate
to say it, it's all about Obama,

929
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:21,000
not wanting to give him
anything. We were talking about

930
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:23,880
this before we came on the air.
This is like,

931
00:55:24,420 --> 00:55:27,720
old which means it wasn't
supposed to be on the air. But

932
00:55:27,750 --> 00:55:28,740
okay, well, we came

933
00:55:28,740 --> 00:55:33,450
on the air. This is like, all of
these feelings that have been

934
00:55:33,450 --> 00:55:36,870
submerged for such a long time
in this country have been

935
00:55:36,870 --> 00:55:40,500
unleashed in terms of racism,
and all of the feelings that

936
00:55:40,500 --> 00:55:44,190
they had about not feeling Obama
was legitimate, because he

937
00:55:44,190 --> 00:55:47,580
wasn't born, you know, he wasn't
born in America. All of that is

938
00:55:47,580 --> 00:55:52,800
about D legitimizing an African
American person, and everything

939
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:54,750
that's followed from that we're
not going to let him have

940
00:55:54,750 --> 00:55:57,630
anything when I let him have we
won't let him out. He's not

941
00:55:57,630 --> 00:56:01,020
legitimate president. And so
that's why it's done. And

942
00:56:01,020 --> 00:56:02,880
unfortunately, they're
continuing.

943
00:56:03,750 --> 00:56:06,810
And how come that wasn't
resolved and Romney ran? Yeah.

944
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:10,170
Romney was white. Yeah.

945
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:14,970
Well, he wasn't a racist. I'm
sorry, racist. We wouldn't say

946
00:56:14,970 --> 00:56:18,630
that anymore. He wasn't racist.
Only Trump is racist. My you

947
00:56:18,630 --> 00:56:21,990
know that. Don't pretend you
don't Yeah, I

948
00:56:21,990 --> 00:56:26,190
mean, I'm sorry. I missed that.
Oh, no, I'm sorry. Glad I missed

949
00:56:26,190 --> 00:56:30,060
it. Yeah, you should be glad.
You know, smiley has put himself

950
00:56:30,060 --> 00:56:33,570
in a kind of a bind, because he
can't really be anything other

951
00:56:33,570 --> 00:56:37,260
than anti Trump has to be on
board. Yeah. Yeah. Because he's

952
00:56:37,260 --> 00:56:43,380
a Hollywood celebrity. Pretty
much. I think he'll do Larry

953
00:56:43,380 --> 00:56:48,960
King. Because he's, you know, he
just but he's just a hard line

954
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:53,790
Democrat from the get go. Yes.
Is Roosevelt running for a fifth

955
00:56:53,790 --> 00:56:59,280
term? Vote him in 33. Blues,

956
00:56:59,550 --> 00:57:02,310
you know, you're talking about
crowdfunding, I think there

957
00:57:02,310 --> 00:57:07,290
could be a new segment on the
show. Which I'd like to kick off

958
00:57:07,290 --> 00:57:10,290
today with an example. And if we
get a jingle and people dig it,

959
00:57:10,290 --> 00:57:13,320
then we can turn it into a
segment. I've noticed and of

960
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:17,670
course, a lot of this has to do
with my work within the no

961
00:57:17,670 --> 00:57:23,310
agenda social.com the mastodon
open source federated social

962
00:57:23,310 --> 00:57:25,080
network of goofiness

963
00:57:25,410 --> 00:57:26,310
open sore

964
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:32,010
open sore I am seeing so many of
and I'll just call them that all

965
00:57:32,010 --> 00:57:36,270
of these people who do this are
social justice warriors. I

966
00:57:36,270 --> 00:57:41,610
bumped into them because I am
being accused of being a

967
00:57:41,790 --> 00:57:49,260
consistent abuser of other
people and our our our our our

968
00:57:49,260 --> 00:57:52,830
domain there is being blocked by
the some federated instances

969
00:57:53,340 --> 00:57:56,730
because they feel that you know
I'm I'm an abuser and I haven't

970
00:57:56,730 --> 00:57:59,820
even been on the thing for like
three days. What have you done?

971
00:58:00,270 --> 00:58:03,420
I don't know but the ad they
said oh admin is abusive so they

972
00:58:03,420 --> 00:58:07,080
blocked the whole they blocked
me done nothing I don't know

973
00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:09,510
what they're talking about. I've
no one's asked me I've never

974
00:58:09,660 --> 00:58:12,870
I've never seen these people on
the on the network before but I

975
00:58:12,930 --> 00:58:15,990
know but I see screenshots of
them talking about me it's I'm

976
00:58:16,020 --> 00:58:21,900
consistent abuser. It's not
true. I've done nothing. So all

977
00:58:21,900 --> 00:58:24,870
of these social justice warriors
who go complaining to their

978
00:58:24,870 --> 00:58:29,820
administrators to block no
agenda social.com have

979
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:33,210
crowdfunding, little GoFundMe,

980
00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:35,880
or oh, they get little things
just to put up a server.

981
00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:40,890
No, no, no, no, no, not for
servers for their lives. John,

982
00:58:41,100 --> 00:58:44,700
this is this is where I want it.
This is not so much about about

983
00:58:44,700 --> 00:58:48,120
the mastodon social network.
This is about the social justice

984
00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:52,620
warriors on the system. And we
have we get a unique look into

985
00:58:52,620 --> 00:58:56,460
their lives as all of them in
their little profile bio.

986
00:58:56,640 --> 00:58:59,640
Have Aleta about people that are
looking for some extra cash

987
00:58:59,670 --> 00:59:01,380
through GoFundMe. And

988
00:59:01,470 --> 00:59:04,110
yet not for some extra cash.
They are looking at this is

989
00:59:04,110 --> 00:59:09,150
their lifestyle.com This is
their lifestyle. Let me give you

990
00:59:09,150 --> 00:59:17,580
an example. Okay, this is from
Dells doodles. And she's one of

991
00:59:17,580 --> 00:59:20,160
these people who has called me a
serial abuser and I just felt

992
00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:22,650
but look, she has a GoFundMe
campaign. Let's see what it

993
00:59:22,650 --> 00:59:23,160
says.

994
00:59:23,910 --> 00:59:27,330
Jacko called her. Have you
called her out? No, I haven't.

995
00:59:27,570 --> 00:59:30,150
You gotta get some examples of
this abusive they're going to.

996
00:59:30,750 --> 00:59:36,000
I'm going to but I said, me
asking here apparently, me

997
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:40,500
asking what is going on is
considered abuse. Oh, yes. I

998
00:59:40,500 --> 00:59:42,840
said, Well, what's going on? And
I'm not aware. Oh, and then they

999
00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:46,050
blocked me and then I go to I
log in somewhere else to say you

1000
00:59:46,050 --> 00:59:48,720
blocked me but I wonder what the
abuse is on the block me again.

1001
00:59:48,750 --> 00:59:51,990
And now that's being called the
abuse. But this happened three

1002
00:59:51,990 --> 00:59:56,610
weeks ago. I mean, I don't know
why. Anyway. So all of these

1003
00:59:57,990 --> 01:00:04,020
kids have Little crowdfunding
things. So here's one of these

1004
01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:09,660
millennial I'm I'm assuming her
gender. Jacko quit work last

1005
01:00:09,660 --> 01:00:13,080
August when we had an advanced
royalty payment through from my

1006
01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:16,860
book, which gave us enough money
to live off of for five months,

1007
01:00:17,100 --> 01:00:21,210
time Jacko plan to spend working
on developing his indie game

1008
01:00:21,210 --> 01:00:25,890
studio to make video games full
time. Unfortunately, at the same

1009
01:00:25,890 --> 01:00:29,100
time, he became ill. When I
eventually managed to convince

1010
01:00:29,100 --> 01:00:31,560
him to get checked out. He was
at the point of fainting when he

1011
01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:34,650
stood up. Turns out he had a
bleeding stomach all sudden, his

1012
01:00:34,650 --> 01:00:37,650
blood count had dropped
significantly. The doctor wanted

1013
01:00:37,650 --> 01:00:40,290
him to get a transfusion
immediately, but he declined and

1014
01:00:40,290 --> 01:00:44,880
went for taking strong iron
supplements. Instead, it stopped

1015
01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:50,370
bleeding now, but anyone who's
had an anemia, knows how long it

1016
01:00:50,370 --> 01:00:52,800
takes to recover from even a
little bit of anemia. It's very

1017
01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:55,530
in his was terrible. His blood
levels are climbing, but he

1018
01:00:55,530 --> 01:00:58,440
hasn't had the energy needed to
work full time. So we're behind

1019
01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:01,860
on our plans. He started
freelancing for the company he

1020
01:01:01,860 --> 01:01:04,230
left last year on a part time
basis, but we're still

1021
01:01:04,230 --> 01:01:07,860
struggling. I've put this off as
long as I can. But we really

1022
01:01:07,860 --> 01:01:11,580
need help Jaco still can't work
fast enough on his game projects

1023
01:01:11,580 --> 01:01:15,120
to get stuff out there for sale
to support us. We're close to

1024
01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:18,510
being okay. But when you're
poor, the world works against

1025
01:01:18,510 --> 01:01:22,230
you. missed payments, mean more
bank fees, bouncing fees, people

1026
01:01:22,230 --> 01:01:25,380
nagging you for money, et
cetera, our car is close to

1027
01:01:25,380 --> 01:01:28,230
being paid off. And if we can
clear that monthly payment,

1028
01:01:28,230 --> 01:01:30,720
every month, we'll be in much
more stable, find a place

1029
01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:34,020
financially, there's only five
more payments to go on it. But

1030
01:01:34,020 --> 01:01:36,750
the extra monthly payment is
just tipping us over the limit

1031
01:01:36,870 --> 01:01:40,860
every month on our reduced
income. So we can clear that and

1032
01:01:40,890 --> 01:01:43,440
not have to make that payment
every month. It'd be a huge

1033
01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:46,650
help. I hate asking. I know so
many people who are struggling

1034
01:01:46,650 --> 01:01:49,050
right now. And I wish we were in
the position where we could help

1035
01:01:49,110 --> 01:01:52,740
and not ask for it. But such as
life. If you can help us, there

1036
01:01:52,740 --> 01:01:58,680
are no words for how grateful
we'd be. So these losers think

1037
01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:02,040
that their future is an indie
game companies and writing

1038
01:02:02,070 --> 01:02:08,370
haikus on Patreon. This is their
business model. We've identified

1039
01:02:08,370 --> 01:02:12,660
this, we're going to see kids
who think that this is how life

1040
01:02:12,660 --> 01:02:15,540
works. Well, we're just asked
for help.

1041
01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:22,620
First of all, I'm going to
excoriate you for being so mean.

1042
01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:27,510
I can see why they don't like
you. Because maybe this is the

1043
01:02:27,510 --> 01:02:30,480
new business. Well, maybe this
is the future. You don't know

1044
01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:30,960
that.

1045
01:02:31,230 --> 01:02:34,680
I do. This is what I'm
identifying. They're creating

1046
01:02:34,680 --> 01:02:38,670
this future of loser dumb. They
will have no life no future

1047
01:02:38,700 --> 01:02:45,390
indie game company, haiku
writer. Are you kidding me? Oh,

1048
01:02:45,810 --> 01:02:48,750
oh, we can't he can't get his
indie game company off the

1049
01:02:48,750 --> 01:02:52,590
ground. How about I get
something as a job? A real job?

1050
01:02:53,160 --> 01:02:54,870
You know, it's a way to work.

1051
01:02:55,049 --> 01:02:56,669
Where are they located? First of
all,

1052
01:02:57,600 --> 01:03:00,300
these two doesn't say here.

1053
01:03:01,230 --> 01:03:07,920
I know that makes a huge
difference. And how do we know

1054
01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:11,370
that any of this is true? Is it
possible? No. You could dream

1055
01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:13,740
dream become a fictitious
character doing this?

1056
01:03:14,370 --> 01:03:16,800
Of course you could have made it
but I don't think so. I think

1057
01:03:16,980 --> 01:03:20,460
you know, you saw the picture
that kids on the duty they don't

1058
01:03:20,460 --> 01:03:23,220
even put up Patreon 's anymore
just put signs in the window

1059
01:03:23,220 --> 01:03:27,210
saying we're broke. Here give us
money to our Pay Pal. And they

1060
01:03:27,210 --> 01:03:29,370
the PayPal address and they put
it on their window?

1061
01:03:30,090 --> 01:03:33,480
Yes. Yet I keep forgetting to
put that in the newsletter. But

1062
01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:37,770
I gotta put that in. Yeah. Yes,
why cut out to cut out the

1063
01:03:37,770 --> 01:03:41,520
middleman? I don't know

1064
01:03:42,780 --> 01:03:46,950
that we made a huge mistake. We
are guilty of huge cultural

1065
01:03:46,950 --> 01:03:49,620
appropriation. I feel extremely
bad about it.

1066
01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:51,780
You probably feel worse about it
than I do.

1067
01:03:52,830 --> 01:03:58,470
We have We appropriated Mexican
culture. By celebrating Cinco de

1068
01:03:58,470 --> 01:04:01,590
Maya with money no less. I mean,
this is what is actually what is

1069
01:04:01,590 --> 01:04:04,770
Cinco Demayo. Why What Why did
the Mexican celebrated

1070
01:04:05,250 --> 01:04:08,670
Cinco de Mayo was the Battle of
Puebla, which is the first time

1071
01:04:08,670 --> 01:04:12,840
the Mexican army beat that beat
back the French army, which was

1072
01:04:12,840 --> 01:04:15,390
planted in New Mexico to take
over the southern parts of the

1073
01:04:15,390 --> 01:04:17,940
United States, if you want to
really look at it from an old

1074
01:04:17,940 --> 01:04:21,180
conspiracy, the British are
going to get the top half of the

1075
01:04:21,180 --> 01:04:23,220
United States and the British
and the French are getting at

1076
01:04:23,220 --> 01:04:25,470
the bottom half of the United
States, which they used to own

1077
01:04:25,980 --> 01:04:29,580
had big pieces of, and that was
the idea because it was assumed

1078
01:04:29,580 --> 01:04:33,000
by the Europeans that that the
United States would be split in

1079
01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:36,420
half permanently. And then it
could easily be overtaken by the

1080
01:04:36,420 --> 01:04:39,990
influences of the French and the
British and they could also get

1081
01:04:39,990 --> 01:04:42,690
the gold in California, which is
what they were after.

1082
01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:46,590
Okay, this is good. In other
words, we as Americans have

1083
01:04:46,590 --> 01:04:49,260
plenty of reason to celebrate
Cinco de Mayo whether it's a

1084
01:04:49,260 --> 01:04:52,920
Mexican celebration or not,
because they say a more reason

1085
01:04:52,920 --> 01:04:56,910
because as we say duress didn't
really save anybody's asked but

1086
01:04:57,240 --> 01:05:00,570
they did a good job of of
winning this one. Battle The

1087
01:05:00,570 --> 01:05:03,480
battle isn't everyone like that
mean you might have armpit hair?

1088
01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:08,250
Come on. There you go sure it's
possible well, you sir because

1089
01:05:08,670 --> 01:05:11,340
because you know the history
would be allowed to wear a

1090
01:05:11,340 --> 01:05:16,140
colorful poncho on Cinco Demayo
in celebration however, if

1091
01:05:16,140 --> 01:05:20,610
you're just some crazy white
dude roaming around the streets

1092
01:05:20,610 --> 01:05:23,370
having a good time here like we
do with St. Patrick's Day you

1093
01:05:23,370 --> 01:05:26,700
know I'm not I'm not Irish but
green beer renown. We drink

1094
01:05:26,700 --> 01:05:30,930
beer, repute green, you know,
the Chicago River. So it's all

1095
01:05:30,930 --> 01:05:35,130
cultural appropriation as
witness to social justice

1096
01:05:35,130 --> 01:05:39,570
warriors attack a young man
who's quite calm actually, who's

1097
01:05:39,570 --> 01:05:42,030
really like what is going on
here. He's wearing a poncho on

1098
01:05:42,030 --> 01:05:44,370
Cinco de Maya was celebrating in
the streets like everybody else,

1099
01:05:44,370 --> 01:05:45,270
but no basis. I'm

1100
01:05:45,270 --> 01:05:46,350
telling me with Michael,

1101
01:05:46,529 --> 01:05:48,839
I am not making a racial
statement. I'm celebrating a

1102
01:05:48,839 --> 01:05:49,379
holiday and

1103
01:05:49,380 --> 01:05:52,200
having I'm telling you that this
is not for everyone,

1104
01:05:52,889 --> 01:05:55,199
every person every color, no
matter what they

1105
01:05:55,200 --> 01:05:57,360
are, I'm having fun. I'm
celebrating

1106
01:05:57,389 --> 01:05:59,429
and I'm telling you that this is
not the appropriate way to

1107
01:05:59,429 --> 01:06:01,259
celebrate the holidays that

1108
01:06:01,260 --> 01:06:04,260
too far and I think you're
making a big deal out of it. So

1109
01:06:04,380 --> 01:06:05,400
I hope that you feel that

1110
01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:09,540
you feel about it because you're
not a part of that. I hope we

1111
01:06:09,540 --> 01:06:15,960
can agree. On being peaceful I'm
not offending anybody. So I tell

1112
01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:19,950
you why that's funny because
family actually affects people's

1113
01:06:19,950 --> 01:06:24,090
lives and I don't think you
understand you perpetuating the

1114
01:06:24,090 --> 01:06:32,880
stereotype it's about you as a
man, right a white man to know

1115
01:06:33,750 --> 01:06:39,150
what's happening in our country
right now. Was this celebrating?

1116
01:06:41,700 --> 01:06:43,740
No, because we know what the
holiday

1117
01:06:43,740 --> 01:06:46,080
means. Can you tell me the
history? I'm here

1118
01:06:49,140 --> 01:06:52,230
you get the idea. It's just
insane.

1119
01:06:52,560 --> 01:06:59,850
is great. By iron Rand,

1120
01:07:00,150 --> 01:07:03,120
but it's spreading John, it is
spreading it is very bad. It is

1121
01:07:03,120 --> 01:07:06,840
not just America. I'm not sure
about the about the laws in

1122
01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:11,040
Canada Navia for suing for
distress and damages. My guess

1123
01:07:11,040 --> 01:07:15,090
is it's probably ensconced in
shrine somewhere. We have a big

1124
01:07:15,090 --> 01:07:19,320
brouhaha the university up there
in Canada Navia, where the

1125
01:07:19,320 --> 01:07:22,050
president of the university is
saying I'm not going to use your

1126
01:07:22,050 --> 01:07:25,140
stupid ass pronouns. For a
minute, I thought you were had

1127
01:07:25,140 --> 01:07:30,750
become provost or something. And
so on the show this a CBC, they

1128
01:07:30,750 --> 01:07:35,730
have the president of the
university and a transgendered

1129
01:07:36,390 --> 01:07:40,260
non binary professor from the
same university. I pulled a

1130
01:07:40,260 --> 01:07:42,870
little snippet because it's just
interesting.

1131
01:07:42,930 --> 01:07:46,950
Professor Peterson, let's begin
with you. Why are you against

1132
01:07:46,950 --> 01:07:48,930
the use of alternate pronouns?

1133
01:07:49,560 --> 01:07:53,910
I'm against the use of
legislation to determine what

1134
01:07:53,910 --> 01:07:57,450
words that myself and other
people are required to utter.

1135
01:07:57,660 --> 01:08:00,540
But would you use alternate
pronouns if a student asked you

1136
01:08:00,540 --> 01:08:00,870
to?

1137
01:08:01,890 --> 01:08:04,170
I think I've made my position on
that clear already?

1138
01:08:04,350 --> 01:08:06,900
Well, perhaps not to our
audience at home who are just

1139
01:08:06,900 --> 01:08:10,470
being introduced to this, would
you use alternate pronouns? And

1140
01:08:10,470 --> 01:08:11,100
why not?

1141
01:08:12,120 --> 01:08:14,250
Because I don't believe that
other people have the right to

1142
01:08:14,250 --> 01:08:16,350
determine what language are
used, especially when it's

1143
01:08:16,350 --> 01:08:19,650
backed by punitive legislation.
And when the words that are

1144
01:08:19,650 --> 01:08:22,830
being required are the
constructions their artificial

1145
01:08:22,830 --> 01:08:26,520
constructions of people I regard
as radical ideologues whose

1146
01:08:26,550 --> 01:08:28,080
viewpoint I do not share.

1147
01:08:28,650 --> 01:08:32,040
Well, I we have a graphic to
show our audience at home I just

1148
01:08:32,040 --> 01:08:35,310
some of the pronouns I bring up
the graphic are being used or

1149
01:08:35,310 --> 01:08:39,030
asked to be used as alternates
among them. You see here, Z or

1150
01:08:39,030 --> 01:08:44,850
Zim Z, or here, Z or Z IR. Also,
hey,

1151
01:08:45,630 --> 01:08:46,830
who can keep up with this,

1152
01:08:46,860 --> 01:08:51,660
like, hey, but I think he
misread it, but he said, Listen

1153
01:08:51,660 --> 01:08:51,720
to

1154
01:08:52,290 --> 01:08:57,660
gear Z, or Z IR. Also, hey, or a
rather

1155
01:08:57,750 --> 01:09:02,400
Oh, hey, I thought, Hey, I like
that. Hey, her.

1156
01:09:02,580 --> 01:09:05,430
So just some of the alternate
pronouns there. Professor Pete,

1157
01:09:05,430 --> 01:09:05,520
where

1158
01:09:05,520 --> 01:09:08,490
you notice notice alternate
pronouns, it's already bizarre

1159
01:09:08,490 --> 01:09:08,700
to

1160
01:09:09,390 --> 01:09:15,660
Z or Z, we're also Hey, or a
rather and per, so just some of

1161
01:09:15,660 --> 01:09:18,690
the alternate pronouns there.
Professor Pete, when you hear

1162
01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:21,630
Professor Peterson saying that
this is oppressive. How do you

1163
01:09:21,630 --> 01:09:24,060
respond to that? Well,

1164
01:09:24,810 --> 01:09:28,770
the Peterson drama has done real
harm to real people on campus,

1165
01:09:28,770 --> 01:09:33,240
he's made it harder to be
transgender or non binary. This

1166
01:09:33,240 --> 01:09:36,840
from personal experience, I'm
non binary and transgender and I

1167
01:09:36,840 --> 01:09:39,120
know how it's felt to be on the
U of T campus for the last

1168
01:09:39,120 --> 01:09:40,890
month. And I also know from

1169
01:09:41,100 --> 01:09:42,030
making it harder,

1170
01:09:42,780 --> 01:09:45,240
because it's apparently it's
quite

1171
01:09:45,510 --> 01:09:50,250
well on its second that one guy
won't say G or z or hay or

1172
01:09:50,310 --> 01:09:53,340
whatever these other words are.
And so now it's makes it more

1173
01:09:53,340 --> 01:09:56,340
difficult for that person to
become what he or she is

1174
01:09:56,340 --> 01:09:56,730
supporting

1175
01:09:56,730 --> 01:09:59,310
my Patreon. Yes,

1176
01:09:59,550 --> 01:10:03,120
I How how how was it making it
more difficult for there?

1177
01:10:03,150 --> 01:10:07,230
Because it's triggering it is it
is emotional distress.

1178
01:10:07,230 --> 01:10:08,610
And I don't want to hear an
answer

1179
01:10:08,610 --> 01:10:12,210
from personal experience, non
binary and transgender and I

1180
01:10:12,210 --> 01:10:14,910
know how it's felt to be on the
EFT campus for the last month.

1181
01:10:15,300 --> 01:10:18,270
And I also know from private
communications with other

1182
01:10:18,270 --> 01:10:21,360
affected people. You know, in
New Zealand where I grew up,

1183
01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:24,840
academics have a statutory role
and trained in the Education Act

1184
01:10:24,840 --> 01:10:28,590
to be a critic and conscience of
society. So I think that's an

1185
01:10:28,590 --> 01:10:31,830
idea worth exporting to Canada.
So I'd like to give Peterson

1186
01:10:32,010 --> 01:10:37,350
about a B plus for his critic
role recently, and an F for the

1187
01:10:37,350 --> 01:10:41,910
conscience part. A student once
said to me, when I finally

1188
01:10:41,910 --> 01:10:45,510
obtained tenure, now, Professor
that now that you have obtained

1189
01:10:45,510 --> 01:10:49,440
superpowers, you must agree to
use them for good for peace and

1190
01:10:49,440 --> 01:10:53,430
justice. So I invite Peterson to
start doing more of that.

1191
01:10:53,610 --> 01:10:54,900
Well, Professor Peterson those

1192
01:10:55,620 --> 01:11:00,810
superpowers I mean, this is guy
high. You only get superpowers

1193
01:11:00,810 --> 01:11:02,670
if you have Tourette's my
friend, not if you're

1194
01:11:02,700 --> 01:11:04,920
transgender, non binary obtain

1195
01:11:04,920 --> 01:11:08,850
superpowers, you must agree to
use them for good for peace and

1196
01:11:08,850 --> 01:11:12,870
justice. So I invite Peterson to
start doing more of that.

1197
01:11:13,020 --> 01:11:15,450
Well, Professor Peterson, those
who are asking for this

1198
01:11:15,480 --> 01:11:19,080
alternate use of use of rather
of alternate pronouns, they are

1199
01:11:19,080 --> 01:11:22,290
saying it boils down to
respecting their human rights.

1200
01:11:22,290 --> 01:11:23,490
How do you respond to that?

1201
01:11:23,700 --> 01:11:26,880
I don't think it boils down to
respecting their human rights. I

1202
01:11:26,880 --> 01:11:29,760
think that it's an imposition on
freedom of speech that's being

1203
01:11:29,790 --> 01:11:32,850
implemented at the legislative
level. I also think that if

1204
01:11:32,850 --> 01:11:37,320
there was a naturally evolving
solution to the linguistic

1205
01:11:37,320 --> 01:11:39,780
problem that's been posed by a
small fraction of the

1206
01:11:39,780 --> 01:11:42,030
transgender community that
people would have already

1207
01:11:42,030 --> 01:11:46,320
adopted it, we've never had a
situation within with in the

1208
01:11:46,320 --> 01:11:49,740
usage of English before, that
required legislation to produce

1209
01:11:49,740 --> 01:11:53,490
a transformation in the manner
in which people spoke has a very

1210
01:11:53,490 --> 01:11:56,490
dangerous precedent. So it's one
thing to tell people what they

1211
01:11:56,490 --> 01:12:00,870
can't say. So for example, we
have legislation making it

1212
01:12:01,290 --> 01:12:04,140
illegal to do such things as
deny the Holocaust, it's a

1213
01:12:04,140 --> 01:12:07,260
completely different thing to
demand that people use certain

1214
01:12:07,260 --> 01:12:12,870
words when they're formulating
their own ideas. This is

1215
01:12:12,960 --> 01:12:16,110
way you tell me Canada is going
to put some legislation through

1216
01:12:16,110 --> 01:12:19,320
that requires you to say, Gee,
or you have to ask somebody what

1217
01:12:19,320 --> 01:12:23,340
their pronoun is, by law, that
is the right pronoun instead of

1218
01:12:23,340 --> 01:12:26,160
you know, making the mistake of
seeing some guy with a long

1219
01:12:26,160 --> 01:12:29,610
beard and hair and calling him a
he when it should be called a

1220
01:12:29,640 --> 01:12:32,100
something else? Is that what
you're saying? To me?

1221
01:12:32,130 --> 01:12:36,570
That is the idea? Yes. Great.
Yeah. That's the idea, an

1222
01:12:36,600 --> 01:12:43,170
observation. The social justice
warrior only comes in female

1223
01:12:43,170 --> 01:12:48,000
form, then yes, I'm assuming a
lot of stuff. Do you I have yet

1224
01:12:48,000 --> 01:12:53,460
to see a transgendered woman,
female to male, who is a social

1225
01:12:53,460 --> 01:12:58,230
justice warrior. The other way
around it, everybody is

1226
01:12:58,230 --> 01:13:01,590
feminine, who was a social
justice warrior. And this is so

1227
01:13:01,590 --> 01:13:06,150
now we're down to a war on men.
If you're not sensitive if

1228
01:13:06,150 --> 01:13:10,950
you're feminization of the Yes,
Western males. And what that

1229
01:13:10,950 --> 01:13:12,810
says makes it easier for the
Yeah,

1230
01:13:12,900 --> 01:13:17,100
and I understand I understand
over i Yes, I understand that

1231
01:13:17,100 --> 01:13:20,640
women have feel they've gotten a
raw deal. I would like to point

1232
01:13:20,640 --> 01:13:22,680
out though, that if you say this
started maybe with the

1233
01:13:22,680 --> 01:13:29,100
suffragette movement in America,
I only learned recently that the

1234
01:13:29,100 --> 01:13:32,880
suffragette movement worked this
way. The only people who could

1235
01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:36,360
vote at the time were land
owners. So there were a lot of

1236
01:13:36,360 --> 01:13:40,170
men who could not vote either at
the time. That's not the way the

1237
01:13:40,170 --> 01:13:42,930
story is told anymore. And the
suffragettes came in and they

1238
01:13:42,930 --> 01:13:46,020
said we don't care if we own
land or not women should be

1239
01:13:46,020 --> 01:13:49,050
allowed to vote. And they got
they got their wish but it was

1240
01:13:49,050 --> 01:13:51,840
not because women weren't
allowed it was people who had no

1241
01:13:51,840 --> 01:13:54,960
land ownership were allowed to
vote. Did you know that part of

1242
01:13:54,960 --> 01:13:55,470
the story

1243
01:13:56,820 --> 01:14:00,000
you know if I did I forgot it. I
have no man you have to go back

1244
01:14:00,000 --> 01:14:01,170
and revisit. So those

1245
01:14:01,170 --> 01:14:04,620
are the original social justice
warriors. And it's a very, very

1246
01:14:04,620 --> 01:14:08,370
powerful moment. Women are hold
power in general women I think

1247
01:14:08,400 --> 01:14:16,680
hold power, power, power power.
But it will continue until I

1248
01:14:16,680 --> 01:14:19,530
think we're all gonna wake up
one day and I hope you get your

1249
01:14:19,530 --> 01:14:21,780
wish because you're gonna see
it's not going to turn out

1250
01:14:21,780 --> 01:14:24,660
exactly the way you thought No
flirting in the workplace. No

1251
01:14:24,660 --> 01:14:28,230
fluctuation we will have no
flirting in the workplace. But

1252
01:14:28,230 --> 01:14:34,260
it is no flirting at all. But
it's come to the point where not

1253
01:14:34,260 --> 01:14:39,420
on this program. But in real
life. I feel caged this real

1254
01:14:39,420 --> 01:14:43,560
life. Yeah, I don't feel caged
here. This is a safe space.

1255
01:14:43,770 --> 01:14:46,350
Because the only reason it's a
safe space and you don't feel

1256
01:14:46,350 --> 01:14:49,470
caged. There's only one reason
and one reason only because our

1257
01:14:49,470 --> 01:14:53,310
support is direct. Yes, support
our page. We were if we were

1258
01:14:53,310 --> 01:14:55,800
working for a bigger
organization, I said this before

1259
01:14:55,800 --> 01:14:58,740
I say it too often. I probably
beaten it up beaten it to death.

1260
01:14:58,740 --> 01:15:02,130
Yeah. Which is that we We had
been we had been fired over and

1261
01:15:02,130 --> 01:15:06,330
over probably from this show
today, at least twice. Yeah. And

1262
01:15:06,990 --> 01:15:10,740
especially becoming a hate show.
We'd lost our advertisers would

1263
01:15:10,740 --> 01:15:11,280
be gone.

1264
01:15:13,740 --> 01:15:16,950
There's one final clip I have
here, which I've loved this a

1265
01:15:16,950 --> 01:15:22,740
lot. And again, a video that
needs to be seen to see the hurt

1266
01:15:23,070 --> 01:15:27,510
in this woman's face hurt. And
yeah, just heard that she is

1267
01:15:27,510 --> 01:15:31,740
partially being blamed for this
loss. And she was blamed in an

1268
01:15:31,740 --> 01:15:36,300
op ed in the New York Times. And
actually, she's become the Xerox

1269
01:15:36,300 --> 01:15:43,230
of the problem. The New York
Times editorial pretty much said

1270
01:15:43,260 --> 01:15:49,350
the smug liberal media was a big
part of the problem, and

1271
01:15:49,350 --> 01:15:55,650
specifically named it the
Samantha Bee problem. Which must

1272
01:15:55,650 --> 01:15:57,300
hurt her to no end.

1273
01:15:59,550 --> 01:16:03,300
Yes, I would think so. Because
she takes us very seriously. So

1274
01:16:03,300 --> 01:16:06,900
she had a comic, she takes it
very seriously. Um, she was she

1275
01:16:06,930 --> 01:16:07,290
Yeah,

1276
01:16:07,650 --> 01:16:10,470
she's she's very she's very
butthurt by this.

1277
01:16:11,640 --> 01:16:14,280
I know, flattering. I didn't
know that there was a Samantha

1278
01:16:14,280 --> 01:16:16,050
Bee problem. But let me read
part of it to you. The

1279
01:16:16,050 --> 01:16:17,880
Democratic Party's problem in
the age of

1280
01:16:19,380 --> 01:16:22,170
the laughing I know this because
I've been in the same situation

1281
01:16:22,170 --> 01:16:24,600
where, you know, you're getting
blamed for something. And you

1282
01:16:24,600 --> 01:16:26,610
know, it's kind of your fault.
And you just laugh

1283
01:16:26,610 --> 01:16:30,360
it off isn't really Jimmy
Fallon, who you had criticized

1284
01:16:30,360 --> 01:16:32,340
and others are criticized for
being too soft on Trump. It's

1285
01:16:32,340 --> 01:16:35,010
promised Samantha b not be
alone, of course, but the entire

1286
01:16:35,010 --> 01:16:38,220
phenomenon that she embodies the
rapid colonization of new

1287
01:16:38,220 --> 01:16:42,240
cultural territory by an
ascendant social liberalism.

1288
01:16:42,240 --> 01:16:44,310
First, what's your response? And
second of all, how does it feel

1289
01:16:44,310 --> 01:16:47,070
to be, you know, the face of the
problem?

1290
01:16:54,900 --> 01:16:57,060
Yeah, she really is sad about
this.

1291
01:16:58,080 --> 01:17:00,300
Liberalism first, what's your
response? And second of all, how

1292
01:17:00,300 --> 01:17:03,420
does it feel to be you know, the
face of the problem?

1293
01:17:07,980 --> 01:17:13,050
stuck for a second the if she
Yeah, you're absolutely dead on

1294
01:17:13,050 --> 01:17:16,200
on this analysis? And that a
laugh is the indicator? Yep. She

1295
01:17:16,200 --> 01:17:18,870
should actually be mad about it.
If she was if she would take it

1296
01:17:18,870 --> 01:17:22,590
as that's bullcrap. I'm a comic
and that she should have gone

1297
01:17:22,590 --> 01:17:25,230
aggressive. But no, she did that
laugh which indicates Oh, my

1298
01:17:25,230 --> 01:17:28,680
God, I I am the problem. She
said. She's taking it very

1299
01:17:28,680 --> 01:17:32,670
seriously. She She, she? There's
no way. I mean, if that was John

1300
01:17:32,700 --> 01:17:36,120
say was, let's move people
around under this chessboard,

1301
01:17:36,390 --> 01:17:40,830
and make John Stuart the guy.
Yeah. John Stuart, if he was

1302
01:17:40,830 --> 01:17:43,200
like, was the John Stuart
problem. And it was like the

1303
01:17:43,200 --> 01:17:46,890
same situation. Let's say he'd
go right after the guy. Hey, go

1304
01:17:46,890 --> 01:17:49,950
after the New York Times say
this is nonsense. He used his

1305
01:17:49,950 --> 01:17:53,550
comic foil. I'm just the
comedian. You know, I can't even

1306
01:17:53,550 --> 01:17:56,730
make fun anyway. You just go
just and they would end right.

1307
01:17:56,730 --> 01:18:00,720
There she is. This is going to
affect her career. Yeah.

1308
01:18:01,770 --> 01:18:04,200
Yeah. Yes. In fact, if you and I
were watching this interview,

1309
01:18:04,200 --> 01:18:09,360
and we were running, what is it?
TBS that she's on? TV? Yeah, I

1310
01:18:09,360 --> 01:18:10,530
think it is TBS, something like

1311
01:18:10,530 --> 01:18:13,560
that. Whatever. We would have
fired her after this interview.

1312
01:18:13,560 --> 01:18:14,730
And you'll hear why, you know,

1313
01:18:14,910 --> 01:18:16,500
the the face of the problem.

1314
01:18:18,120 --> 01:18:22,320
Oh, my God, my name wasn't an
article. It's me. It's not

1315
01:18:22,350 --> 01:18:25,950
racism. It's just me. No, you
know what? Oh, wait, wait for

1316
01:18:25,950 --> 01:18:28,980
all that evidence to roll in.
And then I'll then I'll make up

1317
01:18:28,980 --> 01:18:29,940
my mind after that.

1318
01:18:30,630 --> 01:18:33,270
Because, you know, it's clearly
unproven. This is just the New

1319
01:18:33,270 --> 01:18:37,440
York Times be oh, wait a minute.
That's my Bible. Brain freeze,

1320
01:18:37,620 --> 01:18:38,070
just because

1321
01:18:38,070 --> 01:18:40,080
there was no backup. It was
just, you know,

1322
01:18:40,110 --> 01:18:41,520
it's one person's opinion.

1323
01:18:42,540 --> 01:18:45,900
Yes, that's what op eds are one
person's opinion. Only this one

1324
01:18:45,900 --> 01:18:46,770
is in the New York Times.

1325
01:18:48,240 --> 01:18:48,990
Wonderful.

1326
01:18:49,740 --> 01:18:55,080
Wonderful. Let me ask you a
question. Does he have a larger

1327
01:18:55,080 --> 01:18:58,800
button? You've read this on your
show? So remove yourself from

1328
01:18:58,800 --> 01:19:02,910
it? Does he have a point about
smug liberals? I'm not talking

1329
01:19:02,910 --> 01:19:05,460
about you. But is there a smug
liberal?

1330
01:19:05,670 --> 01:19:09,420
No, that is something that I
can't really, I mean, I just

1331
01:19:09,420 --> 01:19:12,300
can't take responsibility for
the way the election turnout. I

1332
01:19:12,300 --> 01:19:14,940
just absolutely. I can't,

1333
01:19:15,179 --> 01:19:17,309
is there as I told her not to go
to Wisconsin,

1334
01:19:17,370 --> 01:19:21,270
I guess I'm I guess, you know, I
don't I don't think there is

1335
01:19:21,270 --> 01:19:25,350
like I do the show for me. And
for people like me. And I don't

1336
01:19:25,350 --> 01:19:27,450
really care how the rest of the
world sees it, quite frankly,

1337
01:19:27,480 --> 01:19:31,830
Oh, okay. Well, we're gonna have
to fire you because you care

1338
01:19:31,830 --> 01:19:34,980
about the advertisers and the
ratings. If you say you're just

1339
01:19:34,980 --> 01:19:37,920
doing the show for you, why
don't you go do a podcast?

1340
01:19:37,950 --> 01:19:42,090
It's like I do the show for me.
And for people like me, and I

1341
01:19:42,090 --> 01:19:43,860
don't really care how the rest
of the world sees it. Quite

1342
01:19:43,860 --> 01:19:44,460
frankly, this

1343
01:19:44,460 --> 01:19:47,910
is pretty much the definition of
sanctimoniously smug right there

1344
01:19:47,910 --> 01:19:48,570
but at

1345
01:19:48,570 --> 01:19:52,800
least my being said, Were you
smart? No, that's fine, smug

1346
01:19:53,070 --> 01:19:54,330
is perfect. Excellent job,

1347
01:19:54,510 --> 01:19:58,320
I think was that that's what you
said. I don't care what you

1348
01:19:58,320 --> 01:19:58,620
think.

1349
01:19:58,650 --> 01:20:00,720
I don't care what you think I
for myself. I do the show for

1350
01:20:00,720 --> 01:20:03,480
myself. For people like me it's
a very small group.

1351
01:20:03,510 --> 01:20:07,260
You know, I don't I don't think
there is like I do the show for

1352
01:20:07,260 --> 01:20:10,530
me and for people like me, and I
don't really care how the rest

1353
01:20:10,530 --> 01:20:13,050
of the world sees it quite
frankly. That's great if we put

1354
01:20:13,050 --> 01:20:16,380
it we make a show for ourselves.
We put it out in the world. We

1355
01:20:16,380 --> 01:20:17,490
could we birth it

1356
01:20:17,940 --> 01:20:22,680
did now I've heard this exact
sentence so many times in my

1357
01:20:22,680 --> 01:20:26,130
career. This is what someone
says when they're about to get

1358
01:20:26,130 --> 01:20:30,390
canceled. We birth it. We put it
out there for the universe to

1359
01:20:30,390 --> 01:20:33,210
see. Yeah, what you're saying is
you think you have an

1360
01:20:33,210 --> 01:20:36,840
outstanding product that no one
wants to watch. We birth it.

1361
01:20:36,870 --> 01:20:39,600
Have you not heard this? This is
something similar like Well,

1362
01:20:39,600 --> 01:20:42,450
we've heard for a while we're
doing the best we can we're just

1363
01:20:42,480 --> 01:20:45,450
we're putting it out there into
the universe. Let everyone see

1364
01:20:45,450 --> 01:20:46,830
how awesome we are.

1365
01:20:47,160 --> 01:20:49,830
That's great. We put that we
make a show for ourselves. We

1366
01:20:49,830 --> 01:20:53,730
put it out in the world. We can
we birth it, and then the world

1367
01:20:53,760 --> 01:20:56,520
receives it however they want to
receive it. Welcome back to

1368
01:20:56,520 --> 01:20:57,030
Friday, but

1369
01:20:57,030 --> 01:20:58,410
he goes into vocal fry

1370
01:20:58,440 --> 01:21:04,470
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, she reminded
me of in this one time at

1371
01:21:04,470 --> 01:21:07,590
bandcamp. I stuck a flute my
physique Reisman, a little bit

1372
01:21:07,590 --> 01:21:09,600
of her the bandstand

1373
01:21:09,600 --> 01:21:10,860
girl little bit

1374
01:21:11,400 --> 01:21:18,240
once that was full of song
friends to make Dylan's

1375
01:21:18,240 --> 01:21:24,990
expanded, a new murder started.
Wait. Oh no. The world began to

1376
01:21:24,990 --> 01:21:28,110
war again. The middle class is
poor again. Well, television

1377
01:21:28,110 --> 01:21:30,780
sold the myths of climate
conscious communists from Arab

1378
01:21:30,780 --> 01:21:33,780
Spring to caliphates to
Mockingbird, Watergate, it all

1379
01:21:33,780 --> 01:21:38,190
started with the Big Bang.
Everybody found the fix when

1380
01:21:38,190 --> 01:21:41,700
money entered politics. It all
started with the bait. May

1381
01:21:43,650 --> 01:21:49,620
we need some new memes that Yes.
I think there's a desperate

1382
01:21:49,620 --> 01:21:53,460
attempt now that we saw the
upgrade bug which Scott Adams

1383
01:21:53,460 --> 01:21:59,250
called the upgrade. Then I
gladly copied from Hitler to

1384
01:21:59,280 --> 01:22:02,820
incompetent. That was a good
upgrade. I mean, that is you get

1385
01:22:02,820 --> 01:22:05,160
that at American Airlines.
You're happy. You're almost at

1386
01:22:05,160 --> 01:22:10,050
the front of the plane. So there
is a concerted effort by certain

1387
01:22:10,050 --> 01:22:15,060
personnel to bring it back to
white supremacy hating blacks

1388
01:22:15,060 --> 01:22:19,650
hating Jews, I think Jews is the
way to go now. Let's start with

1389
01:22:19,650 --> 01:22:24,870
Jeremy Scott Hill Scahill, Scott
Hill, who I liked a lot. He did

1390
01:22:24,870 --> 01:22:27,930
some pretty interesting
documentaries. He was now he was

1391
01:22:27,930 --> 01:22:32,520
a part early on of the $250
million word WordPress blog from

1392
01:22:32,550 --> 01:22:34,110
Pierre Dr. mcaro. Meeting. I

1393
01:22:34,110 --> 01:22:35,100
believe he's still there.

1394
01:22:35,610 --> 01:22:39,930
I thought he left night, didn't
he leave in a huff? I'm pretty

1395
01:22:39,930 --> 01:22:40,650
sure he did.

1396
01:22:41,190 --> 01:22:42,480
Die. He left in a half

1397
01:22:42,510 --> 01:22:46,410
hour. Okay. But well, then we'll
have to check on him. Anyway, he

1398
01:22:46,410 --> 01:22:52,050
was on PBS. Talking about the
president and you know, just

1399
01:22:52,140 --> 01:22:55,410
tying in all these memes to try
and I think bring it back to

1400
01:22:55,410 --> 01:22:55,770
that

1401
01:22:55,800 --> 01:22:59,130
as a fundamental principle. I
don't believe that we should be

1402
01:22:59,130 --> 01:23:03,330
debating fascists, people that
are openly advocating violence

1403
01:23:03,330 --> 01:23:07,710
against undocumented immigrants
or the shaming, publicly shaming

1404
01:23:07,710 --> 01:23:09,750
private citizens who are
transgender.

1405
01:23:09,840 --> 01:23:13,830
Have you seen any of this taking
place at the Trump White House?

1406
01:23:14,880 --> 01:23:16,650
Openly shaming transgendered

1407
01:23:16,650 --> 01:23:19,500
people? I thought he was talking
to historically about some,

1408
01:23:19,770 --> 01:23:21,270
maybe somebody in the 30s

1409
01:23:21,360 --> 01:23:22,800
Oh, yeah, maybe not.

1410
01:23:23,520 --> 01:23:26,640
I'll debate anyone anywhere. But
I won't debate a fascist I will.

1411
01:23:26,670 --> 01:23:28,290
I will resist a fascist unless
you're

1412
01:23:28,290 --> 01:23:32,100
a dick. If there truly was a
fascist, that's how you're going

1413
01:23:32,100 --> 01:23:34,620
to resist. I'm not going to talk
to you. I'm going to resist that

1414
01:23:34,620 --> 01:23:37,050
I won't talk to him to stand you
in my arms folded and I'm not

1415
01:23:37,050 --> 01:23:39,870
going to talk now. I will
protest, resist and resist. I'm

1416
01:23:39,870 --> 01:23:41,490
going to resist but I won't talk
to you,

1417
01:23:41,610 --> 01:23:44,850
beta fascist, I will. I will
resist a fascist, I will protest

1418
01:23:44,850 --> 01:23:47,520
a fascist. But that's not like
where there's some exchange of

1419
01:23:47,520 --> 01:23:50,820
ideas that were that the First
Amendment necessitates, we

1420
01:23:50,820 --> 01:23:55,020
engage in. These are people who
were talking about fascists who

1421
01:23:55,020 --> 01:23:57,960
want the extermination of black
people. They want the

1422
01:23:57,960 --> 01:24:02,160
extermination of Jews. They
openly Yes,

1423
01:24:02,190 --> 01:24:05,070
this is the Trump right. Is he's
implying that the Trump

1424
01:24:05,070 --> 01:24:08,520
administration presidency wants
to exterminate blacks

1425
01:24:08,610 --> 01:24:13,230
and Jews, not just blacks and
Jews, con Jews. Sure. Some Jews

1426
01:24:13,440 --> 01:24:15,300
exist. We much

1427
01:24:15,420 --> 01:24:21,030
ation of Jews. They are openly
advocating a form of hatred that

1428
01:24:21,030 --> 01:24:24,300
is vilified in history and
somehow being normalized now by

1429
01:24:24,300 --> 01:24:26,280
the President of the United
States as being

1430
01:24:28,230 --> 01:24:30,660
this is a serious journalist
this guy to

1431
01:24:31,440 --> 01:24:33,630
this is he's off the rails. Yes,
sir.

1432
01:24:34,320 --> 01:24:37,890
That is vilified in history and
somehow being normalized now by

1433
01:24:37,890 --> 01:24:40,560
the President of the United
States. I won't participate in

1434
01:24:40,560 --> 01:24:43,380
any platform where someone is
acting as though Well, there's

1435
01:24:43,380 --> 01:24:45,750
the fascist point of view and
then there's Jeremy's point of

1436
01:24:45,750 --> 01:24:47,820
view. That's not a debate to me
that's

1437
01:24:48,330 --> 01:24:50,130
being invited to anything. I
think that's

1438
01:24:51,840 --> 01:24:54,420
like, Hey, you're not invited
anymore. So you should complain

1439
01:24:54,420 --> 01:24:56,280
really loudly that you won't do
it anyway.

1440
01:24:56,310 --> 01:24:58,200
Being a conservative Republican
congressman,

1441
01:24:58,320 --> 01:25:00,570
there are certain people that I
think I Do you want to go to

1442
01:25:00,570 --> 01:25:02,190
your stupid birthday party
anyway,

1443
01:25:02,250 --> 01:25:05,070
everyone has a right to free
speech. I certainly agree with

1444
01:25:05,070 --> 01:25:08,160
that. But I don't have a right
to speak on television.

1445
01:25:08,220 --> 01:25:10,980
Oh, is that in the Constitution?
Do you have a right to free

1446
01:25:10,980 --> 01:25:14,730
speech? But that's one more they
don't have a right to be invited

1447
01:25:14,730 --> 01:25:17,520
on the programs and no they
don't have no you can't be you

1448
01:25:17,520 --> 01:25:19,920
have no right to be invited on
the programs that have the

1449
01:25:19,920 --> 01:25:21,150
programs you know,

1450
01:25:21,150 --> 01:25:23,430
I support real time doing
whatever they believe is right

1451
01:25:23,460 --> 01:25:27,060
I'm just not gonna participate
in it and you know, and I got a

1452
01:25:27,060 --> 01:25:29,700
lot of heat for that but you
know, and I'm and I never ended

1453
01:25:29,700 --> 01:25:30,870
up on that show again.

1454
01:25:30,900 --> 01:25:33,870
Yeah, that's that's the problem.
John, you nailed it. That's he's

1455
01:25:33,900 --> 01:25:35,910
been uninvited from whatever.

1456
01:25:36,690 --> 01:25:39,300
I can go to sleep at night
knowing that I had nothing to do

1457
01:25:39,300 --> 01:25:42,780
with with giving any attention
to a fascist I

1458
01:25:42,780 --> 01:25:45,450
can go to sleep at night knowing
I have no job. I didn't want to

1459
01:25:45,450 --> 01:25:51,840
do it anyway, fake news and he
repeated fake. Fake fake you are

1460
01:25:51,840 --> 01:25:52,500
fake news.

1461
01:25:53,670 --> 01:25:57,270
This is fake. You are fake. Do

1462
01:25:59,160 --> 01:26:00,450
you read that ad

1463
01:26:05,910 --> 01:26:09,810
so here is the report and there
was a pool guy although it might

1464
01:26:09,810 --> 01:26:13,920
have been CNN who was doing a
pool during the big celebration

1465
01:26:13,920 --> 01:26:16,500
there in Pyongyang and we've
seen all of these what I what I

1466
01:26:16,500 --> 01:26:20,310
deemed to be mainly just empty
metal tubes. I don't know what's

1467
01:26:20,310 --> 01:26:22,410
in there. I don't know if
they're such things as a new

1468
01:26:22,410 --> 01:26:25,590
sophisticated rocket. I have no
idea it looks like a bunch of

1469
01:26:25,590 --> 01:26:29,880
sheet metal with with rivets.
Here's the we're here. Here's

1470
01:26:29,880 --> 01:26:30,390
the report

1471
01:26:30,420 --> 01:26:33,540
begin with breaking news from
North Korea. US military

1472
01:26:33,540 --> 01:26:36,870
official confirms North Korea
attempted to launch a missile

1473
01:26:36,870 --> 01:26:39,750
off its east coast Sunday
morning local time, but the

1474
01:26:39,750 --> 01:26:42,990
missile blew up almost
immediately. The type of missile

1475
01:26:42,990 --> 01:26:46,740
is still being assessed. The
Defiant misfire follows another

1476
01:26:46,740 --> 01:26:47,850
show for Saturday.

1477
01:26:47,940 --> 01:26:51,090
You that just said something and
not even with the source in

1478
01:26:51,090 --> 01:26:51,420
which the

1479
01:26:51,599 --> 01:26:57,029
stop stop. Did you hear what she
said? She said a defiant

1480
01:26:57,059 --> 01:26:58,199
misfire?

1481
01:26:58,680 --> 01:27:00,180
No, I didn't hear that. Damn

1482
01:27:00,210 --> 01:27:02,610
What is a defiant misfire?

1483
01:27:02,610 --> 01:27:07,440
It means that the rocket did not
want to do it. I'm not firing

1484
01:27:07,469 --> 01:27:10,499
again with breaking news from
North Korea. US military

1485
01:27:10,499 --> 01:27:13,829
official confirms North Korea
attempted to launch a missile

1486
01:27:13,829 --> 01:27:16,679
off its east coast Sunday
morning local time, but the

1487
01:27:16,679 --> 01:27:19,949
missile blew up almost
immediately. The type of missile

1488
01:27:19,949 --> 01:27:23,699
is still being assessed. The
Defiant misfire follows another

1489
01:27:23,699 --> 01:27:24,209
shot is

1490
01:27:24,210 --> 01:27:27,000
a very weird sentence. I agree
with you. You could say the

1491
01:27:27,000 --> 01:27:30,630
Define missile. Because
literally the missile does not

1492
01:27:30,630 --> 01:27:33,570
want to be fired but the defiant
misfire.

1493
01:27:34,170 --> 01:27:37,890
Well, obviously she's mixing
things up. She's the defiant

1494
01:27:37,890 --> 01:27:40,830
part is that they were told not
to do anything and they did.

1495
01:27:41,430 --> 01:27:44,250
Okay. And so that was that was
the defiant part. But then it

1496
01:27:44,250 --> 01:27:47,970
was a misfire. Yes. And so she
puts the two together and you

1497
01:27:47,970 --> 01:27:51,390
get this stupid phrase defiant
misfire that means nothing that

1498
01:27:51,390 --> 01:27:51,600
you know

1499
01:27:51,599 --> 01:27:53,369
what it is. This is the the
Easter crew.

1500
01:27:54,450 --> 01:27:55,800
The historic crew.

1501
01:27:55,830 --> 01:27:57,570
It's very it's very the only
ones that

1502
01:27:57,570 --> 01:27:58,560
work on Easter. Yes, it's

1503
01:27:58,560 --> 01:28:01,500
very hard to get anything from
from corporate media during

1504
01:28:01,500 --> 01:28:03,510
Easter any other vacation
because they're gone

1505
01:28:03,630 --> 01:28:07,470
for Saturday in which the
isolated communist nation put

1506
01:28:07,470 --> 01:28:10,800
ballistic missiles on parade,
including some we haven't seen

1507
01:28:10,800 --> 01:28:15,210
before. More now from Ben Tracy
inside the North Korean capital.

1508
01:28:15,780 --> 01:28:16,380
Yang

1509
01:28:18,270 --> 01:28:22,020
when it comes to military
parades, North Korea certainly

1510
01:28:22,020 --> 01:28:27,510
knows how to put on a show. Want
to go stepping soldiers, rolling

1511
01:28:27,510 --> 01:28:31,380
tanks and rocket launchers. It's
an elaborate scene involving

1512
01:28:31,380 --> 01:28:35,130
hundreds of 1000s of people that
would be the envy of any Super

1513
01:28:35,130 --> 01:28:39,150
Bowl halftime show. Anytime
North Korea has one of these

1514
01:28:39,150 --> 01:28:43,140
military parades US military
experts closely examine what

1515
01:28:43,140 --> 01:28:45,390
they're parading down the
street. They're looking for

1516
01:28:45,390 --> 01:28:48,720
signs that North Korea is closer
to developing a long range

1517
01:28:48,720 --> 01:28:53,130
nuclear missile that could reach
the United States and the signs

1518
01:28:53,130 --> 01:28:56,400
were troubling. For the first
time North Korea displayed new

1519
01:28:56,400 --> 01:28:59,400
long range ballistic missiles
that can be launched from both

1520
01:28:59,400 --> 01:29:03,270
land and sea they are believed
to be the same missiles

1521
01:29:03,270 --> 01:29:06,840
successfully tested in February
and use solid fuel

1522
01:29:06,990 --> 01:29:09,810
and our Hold on a second but I
just want to hear if that's the

1523
01:29:09,810 --> 01:29:12,780
same sound effect of the missile
of the that they were using for

1524
01:29:12,780 --> 01:29:16,410
the tomahawks it sounds a lot
like it let's just do a

1525
01:29:16,410 --> 01:29:19,860
comparison here. That's annoying
let's see

1526
01:29:19,920 --> 01:29:24,210
tested in February and use solid
fuel in our heart attack it's

1527
01:29:24,210 --> 01:29:27,480
exactly the same John there
sweetening the audio listen.

1528
01:29:28,470 --> 01:29:30,210
These guys never end here.

1529
01:29:31,980 --> 01:29:34,410
Believed to be the same missile
six out damnit.

1530
01:29:35,009 --> 01:29:36,509
I get that fire. Here we go.

1531
01:29:36,870 --> 01:29:40,140
Time North Korea displayed new
long range ballistic missiles

1532
01:29:40,290 --> 01:29:42,300
that can be launched from both
land and sea.

1533
01:29:45,450 --> 01:29:46,920
nuts a little are believed

1534
01:29:46,920 --> 01:29:50,040
to be the same missiles
successfully tested in February,

1535
01:29:50,310 --> 01:29:53,850
and he was solid fuel and are
hard to detect before launch.

1536
01:29:54,810 --> 01:29:58,050
And South Korea's military
believes these large missiles at

1537
01:29:58,050 --> 01:30:01,350
the end of the parade are a new
titled intercontinental

1538
01:30:01,350 --> 01:30:05,730
ballistic missile that North did
not previously possess all. The

1539
01:30:05,730 --> 01:30:10,590
speech at the green official
accused the Trump administration

1540
01:30:10,590 --> 01:30:13,680
of threatening North Korea and
said if attacked, they will

1541
01:30:13,680 --> 01:30:18,030
respond with all out war,
including nuclear weapons. That

1542
01:30:18,030 --> 01:30:21,750
confidence is shared by many
here in Pyongyang. When you see

1543
01:30:21,750 --> 01:30:25,500
all of the military troops and
all of the weapons go by, what

1544
01:30:25,500 --> 01:30:29,430
does that mean to you? What do
you say to him? He said he made

1545
01:30:29,430 --> 01:30:33,360
me feel North Korea is strong
enough to defeat any enemy, even

1546
01:30:33,390 --> 01:30:37,980
the United States. North Korea
still says he wants peace and

1547
01:30:37,980 --> 01:30:41,610
now war, but if it comes to war,
they're ready to fight.

1548
01:30:45,600 --> 01:30:49,290
So I'm gonna come up short now
unnamed sources, unnamed

1549
01:30:49,290 --> 01:30:52,500
sources. We have no video of
this thing just rolling. But

1550
01:30:52,500 --> 01:30:54,600
I've seen these big tubes
before.

1551
01:30:55,020 --> 01:30:57,960
Yeah, those tubes look like they
could be made out of wood.

1552
01:30:58,350 --> 01:31:02,400
Mash. I think they went to the
logs. It's Lincoln Logs. They

1553
01:31:02,400 --> 01:31:04,620
could be who knows?

1554
01:31:04,830 --> 01:31:07,920
And the guy says, Oh, this is
new. We've never seen this blog

1555
01:31:07,920 --> 01:31:08,580
before.

1556
01:31:08,910 --> 01:31:10,500
And we're gonna use it on Yeah.

1557
01:31:11,610 --> 01:31:15,210
You know, this. This whole thing
is just a show. I do some good

1558
01:31:15,210 --> 01:31:17,550
reporting. I got a couple of
clips here. I got the North

1559
01:31:17,550 --> 01:31:20,010
Korea, which one it got here.
Gotcha

1560
01:31:20,010 --> 01:31:22,410
with Deutsche Wella. Or you got
Yeah, issues. That's

1561
01:31:22,410 --> 01:31:23,340
a good one. Okay.

1562
01:31:24,570 --> 01:31:27,780
One situation on the Korean
peninsula is being described as

1563
01:31:27,780 --> 01:31:31,680
a tinderbox contract. Konoba was
a longtime DW correspondent in

1564
01:31:31,680 --> 01:31:35,220
the region. He's been analyzing
this conflict for decades. Thank

1565
01:31:35,220 --> 01:31:37,740
you for being with us this
evening. Killing Young has

1566
01:31:37,770 --> 01:31:41,370
threatened to strike back before
in your assessment. Is it

1567
01:31:41,370 --> 01:31:42,300
different this time?

1568
01:31:43,170 --> 01:31:50,880
No. Different kinds of any
action proverbs four as a

1569
01:31:50,880 --> 01:31:55,050
reaction from North Korea. And
this time, maybe the vocabulary

1570
01:31:55,050 --> 01:31:59,580
is a liberal, it's straight or
stronger. That's simply because

1571
01:31:59,580 --> 01:32:02,790
also President Trump is using
stronger words.

1572
01:32:03,510 --> 01:32:07,920
He's a fan of strong language.
But if the US really resorted to

1573
01:32:07,920 --> 01:32:11,340
a preemptive strike, what would
that mean for the region?

1574
01:32:12,360 --> 01:32:17,520
Well, any war means catastrophe.
And in case President Trump

1575
01:32:17,520 --> 01:32:22,860
would to take some military
action. First of all, all the

1576
01:32:22,920 --> 01:32:28,050
let's see possibilities, he is
limited in scope. Because if

1577
01:32:28,050 --> 01:32:31,080
it's real vor, it would be
catastrophe just to hold and

1578
01:32:31,080 --> 01:32:36,000
insulate him, the region would
be in flames. So hopefully, he

1579
01:32:36,000 --> 01:32:40,830
does not take any military
action. Or if he thinks he can

1580
01:32:40,830 --> 01:32:46,650
have some, let's say warning
action, just like in Syria. That

1581
01:32:46,650 --> 01:32:50,850
is also a big danger because he
withdraw in them China.

1582
01:32:51,780 --> 01:32:58,230
That was the whole point. We'll
draw in China. Yeah.

1583
01:32:58,230 --> 01:33:01,620
But the problem is, is Seoul
Korea's was like 10 feet from

1584
01:33:01,620 --> 01:33:05,340
the border of North Korea. They
couldn't get in there fast

1585
01:33:05,340 --> 01:33:07,890
enough before the North Koreans
just blow it to smithereens

1586
01:33:07,890 --> 01:33:11,010
within a bomb. Now, here's the
report that it was kind of

1587
01:33:11,010 --> 01:33:13,680
interesting. This was CBS you I
think yours was CBS two bad

1588
01:33:13,680 --> 01:33:18,240
things in a different report.
This is North Korea. 2017 one

1589
01:33:18,840 --> 01:33:24,750
and North Korea 2017. Two and
the two is the one that's the

1590
01:33:24,750 --> 01:33:27,150
most interesting of these two
clips, because this is David

1591
01:33:27,150 --> 01:33:29,880
Martin, who works out of the
Pentagon. He said to me that

1592
01:33:29,970 --> 01:33:34,500
that older guy who looks like he
just looks like he looks like if

1593
01:33:34,500 --> 01:33:37,410
you're going to describe me he
looks like it's not always ca

1594
01:33:37,470 --> 01:33:39,930
but a CIA supervisor

1595
01:33:40,680 --> 01:33:42,600
who was looking for TPS reports.

1596
01:33:42,990 --> 01:33:46,380
He's looking for TPS reports but
he always has the to me when he

1597
01:33:46,380 --> 01:33:51,060
comes on. I listened to him with
it in mind that I'm listening to

1598
01:33:51,090 --> 01:33:56,730
a the official story, but he
wants to display the first part

1599
01:33:56,730 --> 01:33:58,380
display one first and then we go
to to

1600
01:33:58,440 --> 01:34:02,670
Korea a major holiday in the
reclusive communist nation, the

1601
01:34:02,670 --> 01:34:06,270
anniversary of the birth of
founder Kim Il Sung, and there

1602
01:34:06,270 --> 01:34:10,890
is concern around the world that
his grandson, dictator Kim Jong

1603
01:34:10,920 --> 01:34:15,030
Hoon will use the occasion to
flex his military muscle and

1604
01:34:15,030 --> 01:34:20,040
conduct another nuclear test in
defiance of the US, Ben Tracy's

1605
01:34:20,040 --> 01:34:22,320
in the North Korean capital
Pyongyang

1606
01:34:22,590 --> 01:34:24,300
and there's your defiance word
again.

1607
01:34:26,490 --> 01:34:30,000
North Korea has already staged
for ballistic missile test is

1608
01:34:30,000 --> 01:34:34,110
here. And despite warnings from
the US and China, North Korea's

1609
01:34:34,110 --> 01:34:38,130
Vice Foreign Minister Han song
real says his country will

1610
01:34:38,130 --> 01:34:42,570
conduct another nuclear test
that is sixth overall. Do you

1611
01:34:42,570 --> 01:34:44,940
plan to conduct that test in the
coming days?

1612
01:34:46,410 --> 01:34:49,620
Can you have a nuclear test will
take place a time and a place

1613
01:34:49,620 --> 01:34:53,160
that the supreme leadership
deems necessary. He accuses

1614
01:34:53,160 --> 01:34:56,790
the Trump administration of
provoking a military conflict by

1615
01:34:56,790 --> 01:34:59,970
sending a navy strike force to
the Korean peninsula and Ginty

1616
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:04,740
US US military exercises in
South Korea. Do you believe the

1617
01:35:04,740 --> 01:35:09,180
United States wants to attack
North Korea? Well,

1618
01:35:09,330 --> 01:35:12,330
if the US comes up with a
dangerous military option, then

1619
01:35:12,330 --> 01:35:15,180
the first card is in our hands.
We will deal with it with our

1620
01:35:15,180 --> 01:35:17,790
preemptive strike. This means
war.

1621
01:35:18,240 --> 01:35:21,510
So you're saying if you feel
that North Korea is going to be

1622
01:35:22,080 --> 01:35:27,870
attacked, you will use nuclear
weapons. Of course, China, which

1623
01:35:27,870 --> 01:35:31,380
is North Korea's main ally and
trading partner said today that

1624
01:35:31,380 --> 01:35:34,740
there would be no winners in a
war, and both sides should stop

1625
01:35:34,740 --> 01:35:37,980
threatening each other. North
Korea says they are ready for

1626
01:35:37,980 --> 01:35:41,640
both war and peace and their
vice ministers suddenly spoke

1627
01:35:41,640 --> 01:35:47,340
English to make his point clear
hope for the best but prepared

1628
01:35:47,340 --> 01:35:51,750
for the worst. The vice minister
did stress that North Korea

1629
01:35:51,750 --> 01:35:54,930
would not launch a preemptive
strike unless it felt a real

1630
01:35:54,930 --> 01:35:57,870
threat of attack from the United
States. Tomorrow is a major

1631
01:35:57,870 --> 01:36:01,170
holiday here in North Korea. And
there is some concern that the

1632
01:36:01,170 --> 01:36:03,210
country might use the
opportunity to launch new

1633
01:36:03,210 --> 01:36:07,050
missiles or conduct a nuclear
test, then faciem

1634
01:36:07,050 --> 01:36:08,070
Chun Yang thanks.

1635
01:36:08,580 --> 01:36:13,800
So what do you think the just
presuming for a moment that this

1636
01:36:13,800 --> 01:36:19,470
is a tactically smart? What do
you think the game plan is? With

1637
01:36:19,470 --> 01:36:20,190
North Korea,

1638
01:36:20,520 --> 01:36:23,940
the game plan from whose
perspective Trump

1639
01:36:25,020 --> 01:36:26,130
now precedenti?

1640
01:36:27,900 --> 01:36:30,990
Well, he definitely is not going
to do anything because Mattis

1641
01:36:31,620 --> 01:36:35,820
evolved people that they showed,
you know him backing off as much

1642
01:36:35,820 --> 01:36:40,320
as possible because they know
that North Korea has the upper

1643
01:36:40,320 --> 01:36:44,670
hand, because 20 million people
in Seoul, Korea, right. And our

1644
01:36:44,670 --> 01:36:48,270
and our military base, right
would just be it would be a

1645
01:36:48,270 --> 01:36:51,510
mess. Yeah. And they could do it
and they would do it again. They

1646
01:36:51,510 --> 01:36:53,820
keep preparing for Joe. But it
seems to me as we go back and

1647
01:36:53,820 --> 01:36:57,840
we've talked about this for
years, it seems as if the North

1648
01:36:57,840 --> 01:37:00,900
Koreans are just kind of playing
different kinds of games,

1649
01:37:00,900 --> 01:37:05,010
because they the guy said if the
reporter that CBS reported this

1650
01:37:05,010 --> 01:37:08,880
actually in Pyongyang, which to
me was a breakthrough. I never

1651
01:37:08,880 --> 01:37:12,480
saw skyroam been around before.
But he's over there and he

1652
01:37:12,480 --> 01:37:16,080
speaks Korean and so he's the go
to guy. Yeah, he says they're

1653
01:37:16,080 --> 01:37:17,340
prepared for peace.

1654
01:37:17,639 --> 01:37:20,129
Well, that's, that was that's
what Don has told us. I mean,

1655
01:37:20,129 --> 01:37:22,529
we've we've heard that that's
all they want. They just want

1656
01:37:22,529 --> 01:37:24,509
they don't want armas. Yes. They
want to be

1657
01:37:24,630 --> 01:37:28,020
one day ahead. They have this
face thing, I guess going on

1658
01:37:28,260 --> 01:37:30,360
where they would like to have a
meet up?

1659
01:37:31,440 --> 01:37:34,440
Well, they should get on
meetup.org and organize. They

1660
01:37:34,440 --> 01:37:34,980
should

1661
01:37:35,250 --> 01:37:37,770
put it in meetup.org. And maybe
there's something you'll happen

1662
01:37:38,339 --> 01:37:40,709
to it at the Zephyr museum. I
mean, it'd be beautiful.

1663
01:37:41,070 --> 01:37:43,170
Yes, which we'll talk about
later, which I promised last

1664
01:37:43,170 --> 01:37:46,800
time we never did. So we did. So
let's Let's now listen to David

1665
01:37:46,800 --> 01:37:50,880
Martin, who will give us the
current status of things as far

1666
01:37:50,880 --> 01:37:51,690
as I'm concerned.

1667
01:37:51,990 --> 01:37:56,040
How might the US respond to
another North Korean test, David

1668
01:37:56,040 --> 01:37:57,600
Martin is at the Pentagon.

1669
01:37:58,650 --> 01:38:02,550
The Air Force calls it an
Elephant Walk 22 F fifteens

1670
01:38:02,550 --> 01:38:07,320
armed and ready to scramble from
Kadena Air Base in Japan 900

1671
01:38:07,320 --> 01:38:10,560
miles from North Korea's
capitol. It was conducted

1672
01:38:10,560 --> 01:38:13,650
earlier this week and recorded
by Air Force cameras for North

1673
01:38:13,650 --> 01:38:16,080
Korea to see we reconfigured
every

1674
01:38:16,080 --> 01:38:20,640
one of those fifteens with live
ordnance inside of 24 hours and

1675
01:38:20,640 --> 01:38:22,380
put them back on status

1676
01:38:22,440 --> 01:38:25,560
and ready to fight. But notice
Brigadier General very corner

1677
01:38:25,560 --> 01:38:28,980
she's wearing a flak jacket same
time the airbase at Kadena is in

1678
01:38:28,980 --> 01:38:33,060
range of North Korean missiles
has are 25 million people in the

1679
01:38:33,060 --> 01:38:37,410
South Korean capital of Seoul.
US could launch a devastating

1680
01:38:37,440 --> 01:38:40,650
attack but could not stop the
North Korean military from

1681
01:38:40,650 --> 01:38:43,920
firing off enough salvos to
wreak horrendous destruction,

1682
01:38:44,550 --> 01:38:47,910
which is why Defense Secretary
Jim Mattis sounds so diplomatic

1683
01:38:48,150 --> 01:38:51,900
in regards to North Korea. We
are working with international

1684
01:38:51,900 --> 01:38:55,320
partners in order to defuse the
situation.

1685
01:38:55,650 --> 01:38:58,770
If North Korea conducts another
underground nuclear test or

1686
01:38:58,770 --> 01:39:02,550
launches more missiles into the
sea. US would likely limit its

1687
01:39:02,550 --> 01:39:06,750
reaction to a show of force,
sending b1 bombers from Guam to

1688
01:39:06,750 --> 01:39:10,140
fly along the coast and bringing
in an aircraft carrier battle

1689
01:39:10,140 --> 01:39:13,050
group. However, if North Korea
were to launch an

1690
01:39:13,050 --> 01:39:16,440
intercontinental ballistic
missile toward the US, that

1691
01:39:16,440 --> 01:39:19,680
might trigger a military
response in the form of a cyber

1692
01:39:19,680 --> 01:39:23,910
attack. For now, the Trump
administration is counting on

1693
01:39:23,910 --> 01:39:26,970
China to pressure North Korea
into giving up its nuclear

1694
01:39:26,970 --> 01:39:30,360
weapons program. But if that
doesn't work, they will turn to

1695
01:39:30,360 --> 01:39:35,550
military options. One officer
told me when this crowd says all

1696
01:39:35,550 --> 01:39:38,910
options are on the table. They
mean it. They really need it.

1697
01:39:39,180 --> 01:39:40,620
Anthony Martin on

1698
01:39:40,620 --> 01:39:42,630
the Pentagon. Thanks, David.
Yeah, and

1699
01:39:42,630 --> 01:39:49,920
the the many mainstream
newspapers reported that North

1700
01:39:49,920 --> 01:39:53,670
Korea and Iran now threatening
to take out parts of the United

1701
01:39:53,670 --> 01:39:58,170
States electric grid through a
cyber attack or miss ferric

1702
01:39:58,170 --> 01:40:04,440
nuclear blast Pentagon is taking
steps to both protect the

1703
01:40:04,440 --> 01:40:06,810
nation's communications and
power lifelines.

1704
01:40:06,989 --> 01:40:09,269
Again, can you give us some more
money while we're at that? Well,

1705
01:40:09,269 --> 01:40:13,649
the money is going to James
Woolsey, Woolsey, former CIA

1706
01:40:13,649 --> 01:40:17,699
director, I guess his he's got a
consulting group there. And now

1707
01:40:17,699 --> 01:40:21,509
he's working with DARPA.
Actually, DARPA has charged BA

1708
01:40:21,509 --> 01:40:26,489
II systems to quote map a system
that can detect a cyber attack

1709
01:40:26,489 --> 01:40:30,119
and gin up an alternative
communications network for

1710
01:40:30,119 --> 01:40:35,969
military and civilian use if the
grid is fried. That's that's the

1711
01:40:35,969 --> 01:40:36,869
literal text these

1712
01:40:36,870 --> 01:40:39,240
guys read. They're reading too
much science fiction?

1713
01:40:39,630 --> 01:40:40,470
Yes.

1714
01:40:41,970 --> 01:40:47,100
Yes, he had the grid get fried
man. Got fried, we gotta

1715
01:40:47,130 --> 01:40:49,890
go outside you there's
electrical, there's electrical

1716
01:40:49,890 --> 01:40:53,190
line. And it's just, I mean, I
got, I got news for you melted,

1717
01:40:53,220 --> 01:40:53,460
the

1718
01:40:53,490 --> 01:40:58,320
Internet was built to gin up an
alternative communications

1719
01:40:58,320 --> 01:41:02,820
route, I should say instead of
your word network. That's the

1720
01:41:02,820 --> 01:41:05,520
whole reason it exists is it
could take that kind of hit and

1721
01:41:05,520 --> 01:41:09,510
still working out around it. Now
we got to have a new one. But it

1722
01:41:09,510 --> 01:41:10,890
won't be ready until 2020.

1723
01:41:10,890 --> 01:41:13,980
The internet is not as not as
robust as it was originally

1724
01:41:13,980 --> 01:41:17,400
existed for these huge backbones
and take up most of the

1725
01:41:17,400 --> 01:41:17,880
activity,

1726
01:41:17,910 --> 01:41:19,560
not just take out Verizon, we're
done.

1727
01:41:20,100 --> 01:41:23,250
That actually, if you pretty
much if you blew up, Mae West

1728
01:41:23,250 --> 01:41:27,690
may ease and took out Verizon
and Comcast and five, you have

1729
01:41:27,690 --> 01:41:28,860
maybe five targets,

1730
01:41:29,640 --> 01:41:32,130
and blow up and six while you're
at it up just for just for the

1731
01:41:32,130 --> 01:41:35,460
heck of it just for the fun just
for fun of Amsterdam.

1732
01:41:36,210 --> 01:41:41,190
Sonic is still working, I'm
good. So blow those guys up. And

1733
01:41:41,190 --> 01:41:44,310
it was five, you know, somehow.
So we can pretty much take the

1734
01:41:44,310 --> 01:41:46,620
thing down, but it's not going
to take down the grid. It's like

1735
01:41:46,620 --> 01:41:51,480
it's gonna do a lot of damage.
But it's not that bad. I mean,

1736
01:41:51,480 --> 01:41:55,320
it's not good. But here it is.
Let's go back to the square one,

1737
01:41:55,320 --> 01:41:57,120
which we've been talking about
today, especially since you had

1738
01:41:57,120 --> 01:42:05,040
a contact with Don. Why doesn't
one president step up? Or is he

1739
01:42:05,040 --> 01:42:08,610
going to lose face? Well step up
and have a meeting with these

1740
01:42:08,610 --> 01:42:11,460
guys and say, Okay, what do we
have to do to work together?

1741
01:42:11,550 --> 01:42:15,630
This is the great negotiator,
Trump, what do we have to do to

1742
01:42:15,630 --> 01:42:20,280
work together and then close
ranks on that? Make peace? Tell

1743
01:42:20,280 --> 01:42:23,220
them they can, you know, dig and
do research or whatever on their

1744
01:42:23,250 --> 01:42:26,850
new thing, whatever they want to
do. But let's start making plans

1745
01:42:27,000 --> 01:42:32,160
to hook up North Korea and South
Korea as one nation the way they

1746
01:42:32,160 --> 01:42:33,180
do with East Germany.

1747
01:42:33,599 --> 01:42:36,299
Oh, please. North Korea just
swipe right.

1748
01:42:38,970 --> 01:42:41,700
I don't see any reason that
can't be done. Instead of the

1749
01:42:41,700 --> 01:42:43,740
saber rattling both sides. Oh,

1750
01:42:44,730 --> 01:42:48,810
well, you recall what Don said
my uncle don don Greg, he said

1751
01:42:49,020 --> 01:42:52,140
he's for the military industrial
complex to sell crap to South

1752
01:42:52,140 --> 01:42:54,090
Korea. Now the problem with that
now

1753
01:42:54,420 --> 01:42:56,880
is they sell a lot of crap to
South Korea. That's the problem.

1754
01:42:56,880 --> 01:42:57,570
It's them don't

1755
01:42:57,570 --> 01:43:01,110
even want South Korea doesn't
even want it. South Korea

1756
01:43:01,110 --> 01:43:04,230
would just as soon find a way to
join, join up with North Korean

1757
01:43:04,230 --> 01:43:05,460
and this bullcrap

1758
01:43:05,790 --> 01:43:08,490
bright but now that park is out
what's going to happen? This is

1759
01:43:08,490 --> 01:43:12,480
this is why it's different than
interesting. Who makes who makes

1760
01:43:12,480 --> 01:43:17,430
the call to buy something? Who
are we selling to? That's what I

1761
01:43:17,430 --> 01:43:19,890
love the sales tactic. But who
are we selling to? Who's the

1762
01:43:19,890 --> 01:43:22,620
buyer? I'd like to know if
everyone was the president.

1763
01:43:22,950 --> 01:43:27,210
Great, great tactic. Fantastic.
Who's the buyer? What do you

1764
01:43:27,210 --> 01:43:29,460
mean the buyer has been kicked
out of office? Well, who's the

1765
01:43:29,460 --> 01:43:33,420
buyer though? Who's the buyer
now? There's no other reason.

1766
01:43:35,250 --> 01:43:39,240
I don't know. This is the
dumbest thing ever. And if all

1767
01:43:39,240 --> 01:43:41,280
hell breaks loose a lot of
people gonna get killed.

1768
01:43:41,850 --> 01:43:44,610
Oh, there's that. We're kind of
used to that.

1769
01:43:49,860 --> 01:43:56,310
My my fun time.

1770
01:43:57,570 --> 01:44:02,910
A North Korea. Hey, hey, north.
Hey, North Korea. I got some

1771
01:44:02,910 --> 01:44:07,200
North Korea clips if you're
interested. Yeah. Okay. Let us

1772
01:44:07,200 --> 01:44:14,940
start with. Okay, this is MSNBC.
They are very angry.

1773
01:44:15,150 --> 01:44:17,790
On the one hand, Brian, when you
have a dangerous standoff with a

1774
01:44:17,790 --> 01:44:21,270
nuclear armed adversary, of
course, you would like to think

1775
01:44:21,270 --> 01:44:24,420
that within our government, we
have stability and methodical

1776
01:44:24,420 --> 01:44:27,870
planning every step is very
calculated. And I'm not sure we

1777
01:44:27,870 --> 01:44:29,940
can be certain that that's
happening in this

1778
01:44:29,940 --> 01:44:33,780
administration, right right now,
but I also would suggest that as

1779
01:44:33,780 --> 01:44:36,900
people watch the way this
unfolds, they think about the

1780
01:44:36,900 --> 01:44:39,570
possibility that Trump is
actually trying to use this to

1781
01:44:39,570 --> 01:44:42,420
his advantage in a way that
could be very dangerous, I

1782
01:44:42,420 --> 01:44:46,080
should add, but I definitely see
that as part of the strategy

1783
01:44:46,080 --> 01:44:49,980
here to kind of psych the North
Koreans out to try to dislodge

1784
01:44:49,980 --> 01:44:53,490
the status quo by suggesting
we're just crazy enough to do

1785
01:44:53,490 --> 01:44:56,940
the thing that George W. Bush or
Barack Obama would never do. I

1786
01:44:56,940 --> 01:45:00,000
just don't think it has a high
probability of working but I do

1787
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:01,410
I think that's part of what's
happening here

1788
01:45:01,440 --> 01:45:06,570
and just jump in here. The
hallmark of military capability

1789
01:45:06,570 --> 01:45:10,170
is discipline. It's uniformity.
It's why the military wears

1790
01:45:10,170 --> 01:45:14,190
uniforms. People who come into
the military on their very first

1791
01:45:14,190 --> 01:45:17,250
day learn to salute, it's
because they have respect for

1792
01:45:17,250 --> 01:45:19,530
the chain of command. And if at
the top of the chain of command,

1793
01:45:19,710 --> 01:45:23,460
there is someone who's erratic,
undisciplined, unpredictable, it

1794
01:45:23,460 --> 01:45:25,860
causes the whole chain of
command to disintegrate. And

1795
01:45:25,860 --> 01:45:28,920
then you find that your military
capability is actually lost. So

1796
01:45:28,920 --> 01:45:31,950
I think this is a major
strategic disadvantage for the

1797
01:45:31,950 --> 01:45:33,090
United States of America.

1798
01:45:33,270 --> 01:45:36,360
I would just jump in and say
that I think he's passed madman

1799
01:45:36,360 --> 01:45:40,020
tests with flying colors. The
actual test that he's facing

1800
01:45:40,020 --> 01:45:43,650
right now is whether he can sit
atop that chain of command and

1801
01:45:43,650 --> 01:45:47,310
command the respect not just of
his own military and his own

1802
01:45:47,550 --> 01:45:51,150
deputies who respect that sort
of order. But But of the world

1803
01:45:51,150 --> 01:45:55,110
and the world is watching how he
faces this first test.

1804
01:45:55,140 --> 01:45:58,080
Yeah, all that she forgot this.
Yeah,

1805
01:45:58,200 --> 01:46:01,140
I've heard a number of these
very similar clips. I almost had

1806
01:46:01,140 --> 01:46:04,200
one on today's show. And we as
they go back and forth, it's

1807
01:46:04,200 --> 01:46:06,870
almost as though they're doing
it on purpose. They're trying to

1808
01:46:06,870 --> 01:46:10,140
confuse Kim Jong Hoon Minh,

1809
01:46:10,500 --> 01:46:13,740
with Trump. Not trying to
configure trying to confuse

1810
01:46:13,740 --> 01:46:14,610
people to make think

1811
01:46:14,610 --> 01:46:17,970
they're trying to conflate us.
He's a madman at the top of the

1812
01:46:17,970 --> 01:46:19,680
chain of command. He's a madman.
He's

1813
01:46:19,680 --> 01:46:23,550
very, very good observation.
Very good. I don't know if

1814
01:46:23,550 --> 01:46:24,570
they're doing that on purpose.

1815
01:46:24,570 --> 01:46:27,840
But it's, I think, I think they
are doing it on purpose. I can't

1816
01:46:27,840 --> 01:46:31,050
say that just somebody directing
it, but it's just coming out on

1817
01:46:31,050 --> 01:46:33,900
purpose. And it's not like the
you'd played the first clip I've

1818
01:46:33,900 --> 01:46:36,180
ever heard this. I've been
hearing a lot of this. Were they

1819
01:46:36,990 --> 01:46:40,200
the same descriptors? Excellent
guy, maybe that's what it is.

1820
01:46:40,290 --> 01:46:45,660
You use the same descriptors
with Kim Jong one with Trump.

1821
01:46:45,960 --> 01:46:47,910
He's mad. He's nuts. He's off
the rails

1822
01:46:48,420 --> 01:46:50,250
in crazy crazy. Well,

1823
01:46:50,460 --> 01:46:53,190
it used to hinge with Kim Jong
Un that would that would have

1824
01:46:53,190 --> 01:46:55,050
been the clip I had. Excellent
point.

1825
01:46:55,650 --> 01:46:59,970
Now, of course, this Trump is
crazy madman. He's mentally ill.

1826
01:46:59,970 --> 01:47:03,000
We've been hearing that for a
long time. We know that because

1827
01:47:03,000 --> 01:47:06,540
of the Goldwater rule. This is
something that cannot be

1828
01:47:06,540 --> 01:47:12,360
discussed by those who oppose
it. Well, now. Bless you. Excuse

1829
01:47:12,360 --> 01:47:14,970
me here during the past clip
actually tried this blowing my

1830
01:47:14,970 --> 01:47:17,550
nose with my left hand because
I'd have allergies and stuff.

1831
01:47:17,850 --> 01:47:20,700
Yeah, yeah. It's now on my
shirt. That's the problem with

1832
01:47:20,700 --> 01:47:22,440
left you can't control the flow.

1833
01:47:23,970 --> 01:47:27,960
No, that's the problem with no,
I can blow my nose with a left

1834
01:47:27,960 --> 01:47:30,210
hand. But my right hand I have
trouble with it. Okay, well,

1835
01:47:30,210 --> 01:47:30,420
I've

1836
01:47:30,420 --> 01:47:34,320
dealt with my left hand. Anyway,
just whatever you used to. Jay

1837
01:47:34,320 --> 01:47:41,310
Rosen was at now Jay Rosen is?
He's a professor at NYU, I

1838
01:47:41,310 --> 01:47:42,240
think. Yeah, he's

1839
01:47:42,240 --> 01:47:45,930
an NYU journalism professor. Oh,
yeah. Those who can't do teach.

1840
01:47:45,930 --> 01:47:48,720
Is that the idea? You said it.

1841
01:47:48,750 --> 01:47:51,930
So the title of his session was
the Trump regime and the

1842
01:47:51,930 --> 01:47:56,550
American press. And guess who
was there to ask a question our

1843
01:47:56,550 --> 01:48:01,650
very own Dame Tanya? Oh, and
here's your question. Jay, you

1844
01:48:01,650 --> 01:48:07,260
had brought up the issue that
journalists are reluctant to

1845
01:48:07,320 --> 01:48:11,880
either explore or report on any
sort of like narcissistic

1846
01:48:11,910 --> 01:48:16,560
psychological issue with with
Donald Trump. And I was curious

1847
01:48:16,560 --> 01:48:21,930
as to whether you would thought
and I never heard of this of

1848
01:48:21,930 --> 01:48:25,020
this term before. I heard it on
the no agenda podcast.

1849
01:48:31,950 --> 01:48:34,740
Tanya, come on down.

1850
01:48:35,730 --> 01:48:39,090
This term before I heard it on
the no agenda podcast,

1851
01:48:39,180 --> 01:48:43,560
he flinched when she said that.
I'm sure he did find a divorce

1852
01:48:43,560 --> 01:48:43,860
check.

1853
01:48:44,040 --> 01:48:48,720
But it could it possibly be
related to the Goldwater rule?

1854
01:48:48,930 --> 01:48:50,820
That I mean, obviously
journalists are not

1855
01:48:50,820 --> 01:48:53,850
psychiatrists. But do you think
that's a factor?

1856
01:48:53,910 --> 01:48:56,640
So he goes into three minutes of
explaining that which I don't

1857
01:48:56,640 --> 01:48:59,970
think we want to listen to now.
But it's in the show notes. The

1858
01:48:59,970 --> 01:49:05,160
full clip? Yes. That nine to
nine or two to.no agenda

1859
01:49:05,160 --> 01:49:09,210
notes.com. Okay, back to North
Korea. This was at the United

1860
01:49:09,210 --> 01:49:13,710
Nations North Korea's deputy
ambassador spoke a little hard

1861
01:49:13,710 --> 01:49:16,350
you got to tune into him but
yeah, he's actually is His

1862
01:49:16,350 --> 01:49:18,930
English is English is not that
bad. Wow, that was a

1863
01:49:18,930 --> 01:49:23,040
microaggression. But you have to
tune into what he's saying. The

1864
01:49:23,040 --> 01:49:23,430
United

1865
01:49:23,430 --> 01:49:27,570
States introducing a South
Korean. The Korean minutes later

1866
01:49:27,570 --> 01:49:33,930
the war biggest hotspot, the US
nuclear strategic acid seriously

1867
01:49:33,930 --> 01:49:37,110
strengthening the peace and
security of the peninsula and

1868
01:49:37,110 --> 01:49:42,510
approaching the situation there
to bring of war. It has been

1869
01:49:42,510 --> 01:49:46,530
created a dangerous situation in
which the thermonuclear war may

1870
01:49:46,530 --> 01:49:48,240
break out and any moment

1871
01:49:48,300 --> 01:49:52,350
Oh, Johnny Haywood, he says
thermonuclear thermonuclear war

1872
01:49:52,350 --> 01:49:53,610
could break out at any moment

1873
01:49:53,640 --> 01:49:56,100
to what he said. But is this the
guy from South Korea or North

1874
01:49:56,100 --> 01:49:56,940
Korea North Korea,

1875
01:49:56,970 --> 01:50:00,270
the North Korean UN Ambassador
Deputy Ambassador Winner,

1876
01:50:01,290 --> 01:50:05,070
because it seems the way he's
positioning his complaint from a

1877
01:50:05,070 --> 01:50:10,650
South Korean perspective. Now
Korea hasn't got any nuclear

1878
01:50:10,650 --> 01:50:11,310
bombs.

1879
01:50:12,840 --> 01:50:15,690
No, that's why he's saying he, I
think he's threatening. He's

1880
01:50:15,690 --> 01:50:18,450
saying, Hey, you better stop
because this could this could

1881
01:50:18,450 --> 01:50:20,460
end up in thermonuclear war.

1882
01:50:20,790 --> 01:50:25,050
Okay. I just thought earlier
phrasing was just didn't confuse

1883
01:50:25,050 --> 01:50:28,560
me keep playing the United
Nations. Sorry.

1884
01:50:30,060 --> 01:50:33,690
It has been created a dangerous
situation in which the semi

1885
01:50:33,690 --> 01:50:38,550
nuclear war may break out at any
moment on the peninsula, and the

1886
01:50:38,550 --> 01:50:42,480
pose a serious threat to the
world peace and security to say

1887
01:50:42,480 --> 01:50:45,030
nursing of the dose for the
nurse's station.

1888
01:50:47,340 --> 01:50:50,280
Very, very nice. I think it's
pretty threatening. What do you

1889
01:50:50,280 --> 01:50:53,190
say? Now, of course, we all want
to know what the President is

1890
01:50:53,190 --> 01:50:54,150
really thinking about

1891
01:50:54,150 --> 01:50:56,730
Vice President is in Asia doing
the fourth stop tour. And he

1892
01:50:56,730 --> 01:50:57,360
said, basically,

1893
01:50:57,360 --> 01:50:59,100
the US is running out of
patience, clearly

1894
01:50:59,100 --> 01:51:01,890
a message to North Korea, you
have a navy fleet that is sent

1895
01:51:01,890 --> 01:51:03,450
into the Sea of Japan right

1896
01:51:03,450 --> 01:51:05,460
now. Have you ruled out a
military strike,

1897
01:51:05,520 --> 01:51:07,830
I don't want to telegraph what
I'm doing or what I'm thinking.

1898
01:51:09,000 --> 01:51:11,130
I'm not like other
administrations, where they say

1899
01:51:11,130 --> 01:51:13,830
we're going to do this in four
weeks. And that doesn't work

1900
01:51:13,830 --> 01:51:16,800
that way. We'll see what
happens. I hope things work out.

1901
01:51:16,800 --> 01:51:19,410
Well, I hope there's going to be
peace. But you know, they've

1902
01:51:19,410 --> 01:51:21,660
been talking with this gentleman
for a long time you read

1903
01:51:21,660 --> 01:51:24,930
Clinton's book, he said, We made
such a great peace deal, and it

1904
01:51:24,930 --> 01:51:28,350
was a joke. You look at
different things over the years

1905
01:51:28,350 --> 01:51:30,840
with President Obama,
everybody's been outplayed.

1906
01:51:31,440 --> 01:51:34,410
They've all been outplayed by
this gentleman, and we'll see

1907
01:51:34,410 --> 01:51:36,630
what happens but I just don't
telegraph my moves.

1908
01:51:36,900 --> 01:51:39,960
The two interesting things. One
is he doesn't telegraph his

1909
01:51:39,960 --> 01:51:41,970
moves. I like that. We've never
heard it. I haven't in my

1910
01:51:41,970 --> 01:51:44,250
lifetime have not heard a
president do that. So you know,

1911
01:51:44,250 --> 01:51:46,980
I'm not going to tell you it's
always been Yeah, we're gonna

1912
01:51:47,010 --> 01:51:50,730
drop some boots on the ground.
We're gonna do this dad. Yeah, I

1913
01:51:50,730 --> 01:51:54,720
gotta talk. And he kept saying
this gentleman. That was

1914
01:51:54,720 --> 01:51:56,340
interesting. Oh,

1915
01:51:56,370 --> 01:51:58,140
that's interesting sketches
gentleman

1916
01:51:58,170 --> 01:52:01,380
that does that because he wants
some respect and some kind of

1917
01:52:01,380 --> 01:52:02,910
negotiation is my feeling.

1918
01:52:03,630 --> 01:52:06,120
You might be right. I never I
did not catch that.

1919
01:52:06,389 --> 01:52:13,349
Finally, on the band's I picked
up North Korean number station.

1920
01:52:15,090 --> 01:52:17,820
Three notes from North Korea,
they don't give you anything.

1921
01:52:18,270 --> 01:52:21,420
This is well known in ham
circles. That this is the it's

1922
01:52:21,420 --> 01:52:24,030
called the parrot this number
station. And someone in the War

1923
01:52:24,030 --> 01:52:27,540
Room said Why does Adam always
say Niner instead of nine? That

1924
01:52:27,540 --> 01:52:31,110
is because we are both ham radio
operators. We are Amad licensed

1925
01:52:31,110 --> 01:52:35,280
amateur radio professionals
about that for a term. That's

1926
01:52:35,280 --> 01:52:37,980
good amateur radio
professionals. Save the world.

1927
01:52:38,070 --> 01:52:40,200
Save the wall. Yeah, we've
definitely got it the hands will

1928
01:52:40,200 --> 01:52:44,010
always save the world. And this
is one of these things that

1929
01:52:44,010 --> 01:52:46,290
people don't really on the
background of who are new to the

1930
01:52:46,290 --> 01:52:50,850
program. This was many years
ago, Jeff, John said, Hey, this

1931
01:52:50,850 --> 01:52:53,670
was private. Actually, he'd sent
me an email said hey, this is

1932
01:52:53,670 --> 01:52:57,570
really cheap. walkie talkies on
Amazon 35 bucks just pick up to

1933
01:52:57,570 --> 01:52:59,940
the great for the Armageddon
because yeah, of course John's a

1934
01:52:59,940 --> 01:53:05,100
prepper and that it was a it was
a it was a your musician friend

1935
01:53:05,100 --> 01:53:10,530
who told you that? The who was
it? What's his name? No, come on

1936
01:53:10,530 --> 01:53:13,350
with the six string with a five
string seven. Oh,

1937
01:53:13,830 --> 01:53:17,250
yeah, the Roger McGuane McGuane

1938
01:53:18,240 --> 01:53:21,870
seven string Roger McQuinn and
of course you created the ABCs

1939
01:53:21,870 --> 01:53:25,140
borderline prepper Yeah, so we
both got the technicians license

1940
01:53:25,140 --> 01:53:27,930
which is anyone can get this
anybody should get it at ease.

1941
01:53:27,930 --> 01:53:32,190
So should you just memorize the
questions are in the answers are

1942
01:53:32,190 --> 01:53:35,130
published. It just answered a
multiple choice in there out of

1943
01:53:35,130 --> 01:53:37,860
order. So you can you don't even
have to learn anything, though

1944
01:53:37,860 --> 01:53:41,970
of course I went on to get my
general and I'm a badass in that

1945
01:53:41,970 --> 01:53:42,360
regard.

1946
01:53:42,389 --> 01:53:45,059
But yeah, you're just total
unbeliever get an extra now be

1947
01:53:45,059 --> 01:53:46,229
impressed. Now here we

1948
01:53:46,230 --> 01:53:52,020
have ham radio guys ham radio is
the public service network of

1949
01:53:52,020 --> 01:53:56,520
last resort when the apocalypse
comes where are the guys who are

1950
01:53:56,520 --> 01:53:59,100
going to save the world? Right?

1951
01:53:59,280 --> 01:54:02,820
Exactly. So let's have a listen
to the number station the number

1952
01:54:02,820 --> 01:54:05,460
station is not just doing
numbers, the numbers and this is

1953
01:54:05,460 --> 01:54:08,070
just a small snippet of course
the number station is really

1954
01:54:08,070 --> 01:54:36,840
excited evening Bye 3333
couldn't resist for those of you

1955
01:54:36,840 --> 01:54:42,150
want to listen to the parrot.
326 6.9 kilohertz to two six 6.9

1956
01:54:42,150 --> 01:54:43,050
kilohertz

1957
01:54:43,710 --> 01:54:46,950
so she's all worked up like that
crazy woman who does the

1958
01:54:46,980 --> 01:54:49,410
announcing on the TV? Yeah, it's

1959
01:54:49,410 --> 01:54:52,860
similar yeah version. Gonna be
the same woman for all I know.

1960
01:54:55,530 --> 01:54:59,130
That that was that was good as
usual. We're never gonna see

1961
01:54:59,130 --> 01:55:01,470
that again. I don't I'm thinking
this Ramsey, you know,

1962
01:55:01,500 --> 01:55:05,370
an era gone by and on his own
time, you know, I kind of

1963
01:55:05,370 --> 01:55:08,220
appreciate that he went out and
a highlight that because so many

1964
01:55:08,550 --> 01:55:13,500
of our great producers who have
done things burnout. So I'm kind

1965
01:55:13,500 --> 01:55:17,070
of happy that he went out in a
blaze of glory and we really

1966
01:55:17,070 --> 01:55:20,130
appreciate it. Of course he is
also an executive producer for

1967
01:55:20,130 --> 01:55:23,040
today's episode since he did all
the work, really appreciate

1968
01:55:23,040 --> 01:55:27,930
that. And yeah, we'll be back on
Sunday, we will have the final

1969
01:55:27,930 --> 01:55:32,940
tally of our 3837 votes. And
I'll have some stories from the

1970
01:55:32,940 --> 01:55:38,940
road. No doubt and more
immediate deconstruction, then

1971
01:55:38,940 --> 01:55:43,770
you can shake a stick at another
fine phrase from the chaise. All

1972
01:55:43,770 --> 01:55:47,490
right, so almost coming to you
from downtown Austin, Texas

1973
01:55:47,490 --> 01:55:49,620
capital the drone Star State
FEMA Region six on the

1974
01:55:49,620 --> 01:55:53,340
governmental maps, but not
really, but I will be on Sunday.

1975
01:55:54,480 --> 01:55:55,800
Until then, I'm Adam curry,

1976
01:55:56,219 --> 01:56:00,719
and from Northern Silicon Valley
where I remain. And John C.

1977
01:56:00,719 --> 01:56:01,229
Dvorak.

1978
01:56:01,589 --> 01:56:05,489
Tune in Sunday for another
episode of the no agenda show

1979
01:56:05,489 --> 01:56:11,639
until then, as always, adios
mofos Can you get me a cab to

1980
01:56:11,640 --> 01:56:21,720
the airport? Yeah okay, let's go

1981
01:56:22,770 --> 01:56:25,470
what's going on? Why am I
losing? What am I have sound

1982
01:56:25,590 --> 01:56:28,410
alright, it's back someone's
pressing buttons and turning my

1983
01:56:28,410 --> 01:56:32,010
sound somewhat in that control
room is out of control control

1984
01:56:32,010 --> 01:56:37,680
room when there's insanity in
the control room stay safe on

1985
01:56:37,680 --> 01:56:41,250
everything stormline A woman
talking in my ear was talking

1986
01:56:41,250 --> 01:56:47,520
about the Labor Day Special.
Who's got a hammer where's the

1987
01:56:47,520 --> 01:56:57,390
hammer stop the hammering stop
the hammering stop the hammering

1988
01:56:58,950 --> 01:57:09,240
How do you say this guy's last
crack Hello I'm out bro we did

1989
01:57:09,240 --> 01:57:27,450
blow that one up a racist pig
skin is shaping into big picture

1990
01:57:27,450 --> 01:57:38,130
humble follow you around so
don't have a pin and just watch

1991
01:57:38,130 --> 01:57:51,540
it told Genie

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01:57:54,690 --> 01:57:56,550
NO NO NO NO NO

1993
01:57:58,680 --> 01:58:11,850
Genie Man Overboard donate to
and no agenda they get my shirts

1994
01:58:11,850 --> 01:58:18,090
we get her we donate to and no
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1995
01:58:18,090 --> 01:58:26,130
unique donate need to know this
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1996
01:58:26,130 --> 01:58:30,810
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