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Nah. Adam curry

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Jhansi divorce Thursday April
26 2018. This is your award

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winning get my nation media
assassination episode 1020.

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This is no agenda

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celebrating good times and
broadcast with the drone Star

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state here in Austin Jay Haas in
the Columbia in the morning,

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everybody. I'm Adam curry,

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and from Northern Silicon Valley
words looming. And by the way,

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the garbage trucks have already
gotten by so as to train I'm

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John C. Dvorak. Buzzkill.

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Whoa. Did you just did you speed
up? Or was that Skype speeding?

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Yep. That was me.

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All right, good. All right.

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So your little, little Are you
under the weather or just

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congested?

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Fine, but it's just like I'm
congested. Yeah, you got your

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knees like the traffic by

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the way? Yeah. nasally.

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The only difference is I don't
have potholes.

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Yet, yeah, you do.

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Ah, as if that scourge wasn't
enough. Have you run into any of

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these scooters, these electric
scooters in San Francisco?

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No, most of them actually go
ahead. And a lot of them they

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don't report on this but they go
driving down the road and and

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they hit debris or the garbage
in the streets, or whatever. And

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a lot of them hit human feces
and they go flip and

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they go flip it over heels. No,
that's not true.

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I have a I have a report from
San Francisco on the latest on

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the garbage situation

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on the garbage. You're on that
because these scooters is what I

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was. They've now infiltrated
Austin, these, these electric

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scooters, they're everywhere.

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They're what they're doing in
San Francisco is they're

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confiscating them because what
people do they leave them all

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over the place

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the whole point you're allowed
to the company allowed welding

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and

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dropping them off in the bottom
of stairs steps in the dumpster.

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So the city's grabbing them and
keeping them

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I know a guy who goes out in the
middle of the night to collect

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them and then to go charge them.
Yeah. Which is what a great job.

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No, it's not a great job. But
more importantly, it really

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should I mean, I don't know it's
this whole thing is a so on

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Austin. If I can say anything
like that, to have the scooters

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it just everyone's on the
sidewalks within its downtown is

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become annoying. Get off my
sidewalk with your damn scooter.

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Get those scooters off the
sidewalks. Exactly.

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Turning into you

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know, I'm not that way. I think
it's fantastic that there's all

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these scooters everywhere
running into human poop. And in

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the garbage they can't clean up.
And when I was coming back from

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that last trip, there was
somebody that actually was there

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discussing this in the first
class line. I was next to that

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line because I was not in first
class thing. I don't see San

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Francisco is the filthiest third
world first world city there is

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it's like Calcutta. And so they
had a they had a discussion of

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this on the news because they're
trying everyone knows this. And

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the guy who's responsible for
bringing conventions and he says

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they're losing business,
rightfully so. Yes. And I have a

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clip filled with debris,

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litter, human waste, and drug
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Mark Farrell wants to spend
nearly $13 million the next two

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years to clean up the filter.
The mayor wants five new

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pitstops like this one sort of
one stop shopping where these

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dog waste bags and needle
disposals. $3.5 million will be

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earmarked for new steam street
cleaning equipment. GP W's

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Mohammed Nuru says they're
getting hundreds of calls for

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service every day.

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And we're double and triple
shifting our steam cleaners and

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a lot of our equipment. With
this funding will be able to buy

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some more equipment.

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The plan will include hiring 44
new cleaning workers will target

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districts which need help the
most. Loretta Lauren says her

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Excelsior neighborhood is one of
them. I have to walk through

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human feces all over the
sidewalk. Some residents are

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skeptical. They've heard the
promises before

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and I think they're putting a
lot of money into programs that

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aren't working

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but it is a crisis and

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we need to act. Jo de Alessandro
heads SF travel that the city's

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Convention and Visitor's agency.
We took a short walk down Market

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Street near the financial
district. We didn't have to look

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far before we found trash
blocking part of a roadway. The

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dirty unsafe streets, he says
are taking a toll. We are losing

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business.

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We have definitely groups that
have said that they can't come

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to San Francisco as long as the
streets are like this.

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The message from Mayor Farrell
time just stop talking trash.

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Time to do something about

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interesting crossover with this.

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Before you go on though, I want
to mention at the beginning of

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that report, they talked about
this one stop thing where they

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have a bathroom and then they
Place your putting use needles.

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Yeah, and and a doggie bag thing
the doggy bag thing is not for

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dog poop.

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It's for human poop. Yeah.

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I'm reading come to San
Francisco to filthiest town.

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It's been run by Democrats
forever. This just

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shows I'm reading the What is
this? The Insider? People are

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vandalizing the scooters taking
over San Francisco with

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everything from stickers which
they put on the QR code, which

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is very funny. Oh, boy, they
blood. You know, they

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just a great idea for us take
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this is what Thank you. Well,
let me finish the story. Let's

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get back to that because it is a
good idea. The other thing

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they're doing is they're pooping
on the scooters on the step

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part, which makes a lot of
sense. Yeah. But yes, what an

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opportunity. So the way these
things work is there's a QR code

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on the top, you scan that with
the app, and then it gets an

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activate so you can drive it.
But do we just need to know

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agenda QR sticker to be on there
just pops up the no agenda

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website? Yeah. It's just another
fabulous idea.

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She's just covered no agenda
stickers anyway. Yeah, this

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idea is some VC funded

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thing. And it just popped out of
nowhere. Yes, everywhere.

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We started a couple of months
ago, maybe a little longer. But

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if it first started showing up
as a nuisance a couple of months

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ago, and you see these little
racks of there's also bikes

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there's a bunch of bike
operations there.

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We've got that too. I don't mind
the bike operation because

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actually the same thing No, no,
no. No, you have to put them

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back you have to enlist is a
different operation. Okay, here

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you have to put it back into the
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Well, that's yeah.

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Anyway, this is all part of just
get out of the car and let's

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walk more so you can step in dog
poop human to

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human to a premium better now.
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I think it's just more signs of
the pending making me sick. The

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pending apocalypse is not going
to end well. Any of this hay at

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this show now officially being
archived for the Royal Dutch

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library. How about that?

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This show is being archived by
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I received a very long very
thoughtful email from them.

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Which was pretty much because
you're a famous Dutchman. Yes.

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Who is not a dentist not

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a Dutchman? Yes, exactly. It
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Well, we're now going to archive
and to give all these URLs one

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of which is the
adam.curry.com/everything.

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That's everything. That's the
show notes. That's the the mp3

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file links to the links to the
mp3 files at least. This as soon

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as we have when we're getting
pretty close to some

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transcribing stuff. We'll put
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because it's all underneath that
domain name this is all being

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archived and then it was really
nice like if you have any reason

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you don't want this let us know
we won't archive it. Like no

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please let us live on forever.
That's great forever. We shall

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better than madam to so I saw a
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year and put a picture didn't
put you in ma'am to such thing.

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No, I was gonna bring something
up last night? I don't know it

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was um, it was Trump and Melania
in mme two, so I didn't know

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which one and I just had to stop
for six I tell the difference.

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Now, Madame Tussaud is horrible.
It looks nothing like the people

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in question. And notice this but
something happened because when

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I was a kid, I get to say it.
Madame Tussauds I think at that

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time was only in London. It was
a big deal you went there's like

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oh my god, the likeness is
uncanny. And many of these

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people had stood model they had
the you know the plaster put

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over their face and everything
to really make sure they got the

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right contours and somewhere
along the line someone hijacked

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this brand. They thought they
franchised it because now every

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country has a McDonald too so
somewhere but there's there's no

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real likeness it's just bad
puppets bad that that mannequins

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of famous people

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who once in a while there's a
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rarely, and the one of Donald
and Melania Trump is not at all.

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I mean, none of them just just
bring up any random Madame

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Tussauds website what happened
there? And why do people still

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go to stand in between
likenesses that don't look like

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the people? What kind of idiots
are you? wetware just a bunch of

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wetware people is stupid, where
this is your new word? It is and

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I think that's really where
we're going is we are the wet we

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are the wetware

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so since you mentioned Donald
Milani, I would like to make

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some commentary on their dinner
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my calm and his jaunty wife.

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Yes, and I want to do that
because I saw the check for the

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dinner out that McCrone held
with the dog The Donna Donna

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Melania and Donald yes at the
Jules Verne

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oh the the cheque as in the the
bill what they what they had and

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what they paid presumably as

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early as about a party of about
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here we go and of the of the
Midas 30 leader. That Ace of

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Spades champagne,

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I'm not familiar with it.

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Well, this is a champagne Armand
de I have to go look it up that

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exact name, but it's a very
famous champagne. And it's so

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good that the brand is actually
owned by Jay Z. Ah, so I thought

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it was awesome.

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So anything owned by Jay Z is
now considered good, including

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the nets.

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No, no, though the wind was
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Here's what happened the way I
did my understanding Jay Z.

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Who's a promoter of product and
I think he's a musician. Maybe

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he's the rapper, a rapper. Well,
he's our promoter. Yeah. And he

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is married to somebody famous.
What's her name? I can't

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remember Queen

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Bee Bay Bay Bay Chela.

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Bo beyond key beyond sci

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fi. And he was doing a I guess
he was doing a deal with

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Roederer. And he had a beef
because he was a Cristalle

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drinker. Right. Right. Right.
And this is a big deal. And, you

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know, there's about 10 of these
supers super champagnes, and

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Cristalle which happens to be my
favorite in that league. I

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apparently had gotten to a beef
because I think what happened I

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think because I've noticed that
a lot of the champagne vendors

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get very irked when you take
their $200 bottle of champagne,

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shake it up and then spray it on
some. Yes.

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To the French. This is a great
insult. Of course, it's an

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insult to me. It is

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sold to everybody. Yes, it's
stupid. You're gonna spray get

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some cooks. By the

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way. It's called popping
bottles, bottles in the

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club. Get some cooks,

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shake it out and spray all over
the place. But Louis Roederer

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Chris doll or DOM Perrin your
DOM as they like to call it is

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not really the stuff when I see
people shaking it up and

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spreading on each other. I think
it's disgusting. There's other

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stuff you can do it with. So
apparently, this beef led him to

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this other peculiar champagne,
which is a little kind of a over

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manufactured product. It has a
lot of idiosyncrasies to it.

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It's very much like a crude. And
it was a lot of awards is not a

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slouch of a product. I always
thought it was just some junk

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somebody put together just to
fool the blank, man. Okay, yeah,

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sure. And no, that's not the
case at all. It turns out to be

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just a fabulous product. And so
that is what for some reason, I

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think McCrone bought this and
it's a 30 liter bottle, the

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biggest bottle of champagne you
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always the leader the button,
the bottle itself weighs 100

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pounds. And then I should have
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here and I'm going to actually
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know this bores a lot of people,
but champagne and anything other

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than Magnum, and others but
bigger bottles, yes, is all made

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in other bottles and then poured
into the big bottle. They don't

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actually make it in the bottle
when it's a big giant.

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I hadn't really thought about
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difference? Right, so

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Okay, yeah, I think it does
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champagne, it's gone flat. I
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gonna lose carbonation is not
going to be

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so they had they have it in
sealed bottles, then they open

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those bottles or they put it in
the bottle. They open those

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bottles and then put them in a
new bottle and then cork it.

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Yeah. Wow.

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I didn't know that.

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But because the way Champagne is
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on a rack and you're shaken and
you make all the sediment fall

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on the bottom. You can only do
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And you can't do with these
monster bottles and so you have

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to kind of fake it. Okay, so So
McCrone paid and so is on the

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bill 130,000 euros

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did he play with pay with Visa?

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I don't know maybe crypto or
crypto.

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I have no idea but it seemed
extravagant. So with that in

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mind, I know that was I don't
know what the what the dinner

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was that they had at the you
know, the government dinner was

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but that thing was ridiculous.
He also had some like a $10,000

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bottle of tequila. I had to look
this up. I never heard of this

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tequila. But it's apparently
about 10 grand. Wow.

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So How about how about your

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How about the wine they served
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dinner and by the way, and on
that same list? Two glasses of

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Coca Cola 24 bucks. Do you think
that was

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for? Yeah, I don't know what
restaurant was this again? It

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was a Jules Verne so I can avoid
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Oh no, Jules Verne is a great
place. I can't afford that $12

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car not going to be buying that
kind of thing. They do one

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thing. Hi,

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I'm here for dinner. I'd like to
coax. That's it. Thank you and

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some bread.

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Yeah, well,

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they're assuming you're going
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restaurant. So it's not cheap.

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So the well, I want to ask you
something else. Unless you need

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to continue with this. I have
another wine question.

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Well, I was gonna go on with
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Oh, because I want to ask you
about the wine. They served at

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the state dinner.

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I'm on that page as we speak.
Okay. So they had a Chardonnay

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and a for one thing. They did
have a schramsberg criminal

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which is not have favorite of
mine as sort of a sweet wine for

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dessert, which came from
California but everything else.

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No, we're doing Oregon. Yeah.
And I think that was a direct

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insult to cactus. California has
better wine than Oregon. No

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offense, or I go no, I'm

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sure I'm sure it was. It was a
direct slam that makes nothing

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but since

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but at the same time, he wasn't
a slouch selection. He had

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Domaine serene Chardonnay,
Evanston, reserved 2015 Which is

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probably needs another year or
two of aging. It's a read from

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the press release a combination
of French plants from Dijon and

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thrive in the volcanic Oregon
soil and colder temperatures the

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wine was aged 40% and French oak
barrels for more than 12 months.

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This is a good Chardonnay. There
are better Chardonnays on the

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West Coast than this. Sure, I
would say that you could get one

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of the Woodward Canyon
Chardonnays from Washington

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State which tastes a lot like a
French burgundy and that's what

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I would have gotten but it's
another I present for the for

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the red yes they serve domain
drew hand Pinot Noir lower n

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which is a special small
planting 2014 which is not old

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enough could have gotten Bowser
to 2008 or some of the other

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better vintages I don't know why
they didn't the wine uses the

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model French soul Oregon soil
drew Han is a French owner

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and that makes it okay.

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Or isn't it the grapes are the
seed is from France and they

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planted here

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the seed seed don't you plan
from cuttings not seeds?

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Oh No wonder my champagne is no
good. My Andres Andre 17 Is my

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brand Andre

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is a good one to spray.

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It doesn't spray out of the box
that's

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just swing the box around put a
rope well on the box. Yeah,

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Central

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Pay Now. Yeah. All right. There
were other things going on with

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the visit McCraw unless you need
to speak more about the one

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No, I was just gonna say this is
to me, this is not as bad as

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your Rui. Yes. From the Dutch
King from the Dutch King. That

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was that was I consider this to
be could have done better. Okay,

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but that way, I wouldn't pass up
the dinner. No, no, i By the

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way, I think I can copy most of
this meal. Okay.

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I'll be right over. Here we go
on.

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Yes, McCrone did more than just
eat and spend money and chat and

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drink. He also spoke in front of
Congress. And I think that

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there's something big afoot
coming down. First of all, why

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the hell is he even here? What's
the deal? Why is he in Murca? I

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mean, just to hang out and talk
about parades, or is there

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something else going on?

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Seems to be promoting the
climate change thing more than

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anything? No,

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no, what he is what he is
promoting is the next regime

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change. It's been on the list. I
think we oversaw it. We've been

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a little blinded by Syria. Here
is a part of his speech. It's an

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English just takes a second to
get into it.

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For Iran. Our objective is
clear. Iran shall never possess

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any nuclear weapons

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Yeah. No notes very good. We're
happy. We're happy. It's good.

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Not now. Not in five years. Not
in 10 years. Net vert net

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everybody

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Joe MacDrive get me again, bro.

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Beds. This policy should never
lead us to war in the Middle

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East.

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Oh, what? No, that We know we
want war when there's like, no

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one claps, no war around.

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The clapping dies way down. It's

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exactly why I love Creed's
running, left those first two

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and I took all the other ones
out because they do that a lot.

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But it's all this, you know this
long clap and wow, we're so

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happy and then no more war,

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this policy should never lead us
to war in the Middle East.

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Dammit. Iranian

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war mongers, these people good
catch, they just want war

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and respects sovereignty of the
nations, including that one of

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Iran, which represents a great
civilization. Let us not

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replicate past mistakes in the
region. Rather, let us not be

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naive on one side. Let us not
create new walls ourselves. On

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the other side, there is an
existing framework, okay. Called

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the JCPOA known as the Iran deal
for the nuclear activity of

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Iran. We signed it at the
initiative of the United States.

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We signed it both the United
States and France.

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Aha. So both the United States
and France signed the nuclear

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deal. I don't even know France
signed this deal.

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Did you? Yeah, I think so. I
think it didn't know the UK and

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Russia also sign it? I'm not

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sure. But they're not they're
not in DC with a big fancy

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dinner. Oh, this guy is

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we cannot say we should get rid
of it like that. It is true to

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say that this agreement may not
address all concerns, and very

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important concerns. Okay, what
else is true, but we should not

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abandon it without having
something substantial and more

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substantial instead renegotiated
have to work on this more

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comprehensive deal based, as
discussed was President Trump

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yesterday on four pillars?

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Okay. So as discussed with
President Trump yesterday, four

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pillars. So this is our policy,
and he's

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wearing four pillows, and what
are they going to do? Here comes

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substance of the existing
agreement, especially if you

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decide to leave it the past 2025
period in order to be sure that

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we will never have any nuclear
activity for Iran. So

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containment of the military
influence of the Iranian regime

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in the region, and the
monitoring of ballistic

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activity.

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So I think it's point number
three, that is the one we need

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to look at, containing this
military threat, not necessarily

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to what's going on around Iran,
Iran is pretty big, but what

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they're doing internally, and
from what I understand, I've

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done, I've done quite amount of
research on this, it really

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caught my eye when the Iranian
government banned the use of

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cryptocurrency. And quite
honestly, they were talking

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about doing their own a couple
of months ago. So now off your

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Iranian you're not allowed to
get into Kryptos. But they're

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what's their money? What's the
what's the current I

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don't know what it is dinar or
something like that to

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Dina or the delicate? The
Iranian decay look at out of

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fear of this looming may 15 date
is that crashing significantly.

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And from what I understand, and
Mnuchin is doing a lot of

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talking, but you know, he's not
the one on the front, the front

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page with this. It's McCrone and
Trump, it looks like more

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sanctions. And the big fear is
that we're going to go back to

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the Swift sanctions, which turns
them off from the International

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certainly the EU banking
community. And this is this is

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very damaging, because then they
cannot sell all any of their

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products. And it is is my belief
now rial, all right. That's what

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I thought it was. Although,
Wait, isn't the reality for

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Saudi Arabia?

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Iranian rial, okay, Iranian
rial.

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It's my belief now that we're
going to do I mean, in 2009,

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Obama and Hillary Clinton tried
the Green Revolution in Iran.

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And I think we're gonna do a new
one. And I think that is

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looming.

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And they tried it was it wasn't
the purple in theirs or

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something. No, no, no, no, let's
not do anything. No,

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it's the green one. It was it
was the green one into 2009.

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Yeah, as far as I can recall. I
think purple. Well, wait a

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minute. You may be right about
that. They may have been another

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one. The purple one. Well,
regardless, this this probably

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won't be a color revolution. But
I think I think that's

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to be otherwise you can change
your icons.

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It'll always be green for Iran.
And I'm pretty sure the Iranian

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people would be happy with it.
So I think the pump is being

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primed word. You know, I went
back and I listened to all these

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reports about Syria and whenever
they talk about serious always

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Iran is Syria and Iran. And I
think that this this time, we're

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serious. We know what's on the
west Clarke five list. It's one

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of the big ones. And clearly we
want to renegotiate this is the

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stance. Oh, was

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it one of the big was it was the
last one. It was well, underway

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with finally Iran. Yes, it's

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the last one the way it's
presented. Well, let's listen to

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Wes Clark. Let's see. Because I
think he he kind of puts it

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in a worse in its own
categories. The last one. Yeah.

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Here we go here to

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seven countries in five years,
starting with Iraq, and then

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Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia,
Sudan, and finishing off Iran.

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Yeah,

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finishing off. So we're not
finishing it off. Now. We're

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finishing off Iran. That's what
I just heard. It's a new

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context. And we're gonna finish
off Iran. Iran. Well, it's not

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it's not unusual in we're in
the, in the broadest sense of

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human history that Iran gets
wiped out. Yes, having a number

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of times, going back to Tamar
lane. Yeah. The Iranians were

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all always stubborn, the
Persians, a Persian nation. And

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I remember they got wiped out
because this isn't a 10th

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century or something. I can't
remember the year. But it was

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back aways before I was born.
And I think it was a couple of

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emissaries came in, they wanted
to do some deals, and then they

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got did just shot them. So they
came in and killed everybody.

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Yeah. At this point, I'm pretty
sure what the Iranian population

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is like, get these eight holes
out of here. I mean, go back and

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look.

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Yeah, they that's what they want
to do. But they it's religious

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problem that they have. Yeah,
yeah, not that easy to overcome.

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But

452
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:54,750
just you know, if you go look at
if you go bing it, say ping it

453
00:26:54,750 --> 00:27:00,630
pictures of Iran 1970s Even when
they were girls, mini skirts or

454
00:27:01,890 --> 00:27:03,840
using makeup, they look pretty

455
00:27:04,650 --> 00:27:07,680
used to be that Farsi was the
number one language on the

456
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:11,190
internet very connected country,
while the kids got iPhones or

457
00:27:11,190 --> 00:27:15,600
they had them. I'm not sure what
the status is now. So I think

458
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:17,790
they welcome that. And I think
that is what is on deck. Now. I

459
00:27:17,790 --> 00:27:22,590
do have a clip here from the
Iranian president, who's not so

460
00:27:23,130 --> 00:27:24,480
ready to jump on this plan.

461
00:27:24,510 --> 00:27:28,200
Iranian President Hassan
Rouhani, has dismissed France's

462
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:31,080
proposal to review an
international deal on his

463
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:35,220
country's nuclear program.
French President Emmanuel Macron

464
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:39,510
crying for fresh negotiations on
the back on Tuesday, during his

465
00:27:39,510 --> 00:27:43,140
visit to Washington, PA, I got
him in hot water.

466
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:48,270
If you wants to work with, we're
talking to the United States.

467
00:27:49,230 --> 00:27:51,060
That is none of our business

468
00:27:51,090 --> 00:27:55,200
all my day can go ahead, mommy
morning, and we will not

469
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:56,280
remain in the deal.

470
00:27:57,210 --> 00:27:59,970
No matter what your
circumstances are. I mean, data

471
00:27:59,970 --> 00:28:01,170
by John that had shadow

472
00:28:02,670 --> 00:28:06,480
johani insisted in a speech on
Wednesday that the nuclear deal

473
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,660
will either be maintained or not
the apparently rejecting

474
00:28:09,690 --> 00:28:13,830
possible reviews of the
agreement signed in 2015. US

475
00:28:13,830 --> 00:28:16,920
President Donald Trump has
suggested he may leave the deal.

476
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:21,240
microns plan calls for reworking
the accord to cover Iran's

477
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:24,330
ballistic missile program and
prevent the expansion of the

478
00:28:24,330 --> 00:28:26,250
country's influence in the
Middle East.

479
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:29,340
And notice he misses that third
point, which is hey, we got

480
00:28:29,340 --> 00:28:32,220
these. We got the military
inside the country. We got to

481
00:28:32,220 --> 00:28:34,920
deal with them. He got no
mention of that in the report.

482
00:28:35,610 --> 00:28:36,930
Here's my theory, though. Good

483
00:28:36,930 --> 00:28:37,590
catch.

484
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:42,210
No, no, I don't think the m&m
five M certainly isn't looking

485
00:28:42,210 --> 00:28:49,230
at Iran, other than just this
big vapid concept I was looking

486
00:28:49,260 --> 00:28:51,570
into so I thought, wait a
minute, if the currency is

487
00:28:51,570 --> 00:28:56,250
dropping significantly, and you
know, if you ban the use of

488
00:28:56,250 --> 00:28:58,800
crypto currencies, of course,
everyone's gonna go and get them

489
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:03,240
some crypto. So I'm like, Well,
maybe maybe this would be a good

490
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:06,600
tip for our crypto trading
friends to grab some before May

491
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,960
15. Of course, you know, may 15
may come and go without any

492
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:13,560
change. But then I was just
looking at the charts. And I saw

493
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,890
that there was a you know,
Bitcoin was up and I guess it

494
00:29:16,890 --> 00:29:20,970
went down a bit today. But when
Bitcoin goes up, almost all the

495
00:29:21,030 --> 00:29:28,020
Kryptos go up in value, every
button, the exchange value. This

496
00:29:28,020 --> 00:29:30,870
latest run started on April 13.

497
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:38,280
Okay, what happened April 14,
what we bombed Syria

498
00:29:41,940 --> 00:29:45,150
so there's a direct day in
advance that we're going to bomb

499
00:29:45,150 --> 00:29:47,820
Syria. I'm pretty

500
00:29:47,820 --> 00:29:53,220
sure that the rhetoric itself
was enough. The on the 13th I

501
00:29:53,220 --> 00:29:55,800
think Trump came out and said a
couple things on 13th And the

502
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,080
next morning was or the next
Yeah, that we woke up the next

503
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:03,240
morning was happening. So I
think may for 13th and 14th

504
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:07,620
sake, good luck if stuff is
running up or not. It could get

505
00:30:07,620 --> 00:30:10,050
it could get very interesting.
And I don't think there's any

506
00:30:10,050 --> 00:30:14,220
stopping it. And then I don't
know maybe you can eventually

507
00:30:14,220 --> 00:30:16,530
buy and sell oiling in some
crypto

508
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:22,500
fashion. I know, there's a
there's a lot going on with

509
00:30:22,500 --> 00:30:22,890
this.

510
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:28,200
I have to get down to it for the
next show. I have a woman who's

511
00:30:29,220 --> 00:30:33,630
a gold bug that was on one of
these podcasts. And she was

512
00:30:33,630 --> 00:30:36,750
going on and on about some of
the screwball coincidences with

513
00:30:36,750 --> 00:30:41,010
the Kryptos. And I'll put a
report together. That's very

514
00:30:41,010 --> 00:30:43,590
interesting. Yeah. And I'm not
sure if somebody's opinion that

515
00:30:43,590 --> 00:30:47,760
the whole thing is set up by the
banks. Well,

516
00:30:48,180 --> 00:30:55,350
the who was it? I have it here
somewhere. Yes. The St. Louis

517
00:30:55,350 --> 00:31:00,150
Fed came out with a whole
report. The St. Louis Federal

518
00:31:00,180 --> 00:31:03,060
Reserve Bank has a number of
them that make up the Federal

519
00:31:03,060 --> 00:31:06,390
Reserve. And they have a report
on the case for sent central

520
00:31:06,390 --> 00:31:09,480
bank electronic money and the
non case for central bank

521
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:12,900
cryptocurrencies, and what
they're saying, in fact, the

522
00:31:12,900 --> 00:31:16,260
quote is we welcome anonymous
cryptocurrencies, but they say,

523
00:31:16,740 --> 00:31:19,650
you know, a country should never
issue that it should never be a

524
00:31:19,650 --> 00:31:22,140
Federal Reserve, what they're
looking at now is, they would

525
00:31:22,140 --> 00:31:27,540
love to have, of course, a
centrally organized digital

526
00:31:27,540 --> 00:31:28,260
currency.

527
00:31:31,980 --> 00:31:33,000
So,

528
00:31:33,930 --> 00:31:38,130
you know, with the with NASDAQ
CEO, saying, Oh, we're open to

529
00:31:38,130 --> 00:31:41,370
becoming a crypto trading
platform, when the market

530
00:31:41,370 --> 00:31:44,190
matures, there's a lot this
there's some interesting moves

531
00:31:44,190 --> 00:31:47,370
being made and the banks are not
stupid, they realize that

532
00:31:47,370 --> 00:31:51,360
they're being cut out of a lot
of the a lot of transactions. I

533
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:54,240
mean, again, I go back to the
Netherlands where I walked down

534
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:57,210
the one street and Rotterdam was
phone store, Phone Store, phone

535
00:31:57,210 --> 00:31:59,430
store, where you're not really
buying a phone, that's where you

536
00:31:59,430 --> 00:32:03,480
go and you you send cryptos to
your to Morocco, or whatever

537
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:04,080
country you want to

538
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:09,570
send it to. This is going to be
a big problem. It's going to be

539
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:11,310
it is a big problem.

540
00:32:12,330 --> 00:32:14,490
I'm just not sure how it's going
to be solved. But I think it's

541
00:32:14,490 --> 00:32:16,890
going to be love and get solved.
It's going to be honey, you

542
00:32:16,890 --> 00:32:17,130
know,

543
00:32:17,430 --> 00:32:20,130
it's gonna get solved the banks
win. Sure,

544
00:32:20,190 --> 00:32:23,070
but how how will they solve it?
How will they do it all?

545
00:32:24,090 --> 00:32:27,900
That's for us to determine on
the no agenda. Yeah, but I

546
00:32:27,900 --> 00:32:30,780
don't know. I mean, if if people
even if money is still just a

547
00:32:30,780 --> 00:32:35,640
concept that's just an idea. So
if if these cryptocurrencies are

548
00:32:35,670 --> 00:32:39,960
seen as money and people really
start using it, yeah, and they

549
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,960
live outside of the exchanging
system, which is the problem

550
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:48,120
with it, then the banks won't be
able to do anything Yeah, or the

551
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:51,570
government they can do it at the
exchanges that's what that's

552
00:32:51,570 --> 00:32:54,600
where they have all the power
they want to make sure you pay

553
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:58,950
your taxes over any gains to
make sure there's no illegal use

554
00:32:58,950 --> 00:33:03,450
you know, who's changing this I
mean, your your, your KYC Reg,

555
00:33:03,450 --> 00:33:09,000
have you ever heard of this KYC
registration? God no. This pops

556
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:12,360
up every which if you read some
of these white papers that say

557
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:16,350
when when someone wants to start
a crypt crypto coin, they do an

558
00:33:16,350 --> 00:33:21,750
Ico initial coin offering and
they have a white paper which is

559
00:33:21,900 --> 00:33:25,740
in my mind the equivalents of an
S one filing for a you know,

560
00:33:25,740 --> 00:33:30,030
like a NASDAQ IPO and in it
there's this thing you know,

561
00:33:30,150 --> 00:33:33,900
people want to get in early or
you know this white listing all

562
00:33:33,900 --> 00:33:37,230
kinds of concepts I'm not very
familiar with what they all say

563
00:33:37,230 --> 00:33:41,850
you need KYC registration and
like what is KYC registration I

564
00:33:41,850 --> 00:33:46,020
see it everywhere now. It stands
for know your customer

565
00:33:49,230 --> 00:33:51,720
said even mean I don't

566
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,780
know but somehow it's become the
standardized thing in the crypto

567
00:33:54,780 --> 00:33:58,530
world that UK a KYC registration
is you know your customer and

568
00:33:58,530 --> 00:34:02,820
therefore you have seen some
document that confirms their

569
00:34:02,970 --> 00:34:06,810
identity. I just let it sounds
like a marketing term you know

570
00:34:06,810 --> 00:34:11,880
Know Your Customer Wow, this

571
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:15,540
is very suspicious. These things
are too fishy for my taste that

572
00:34:15,540 --> 00:34:15,840
very

573
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:20,970
fishy course they are. But you
know of the of the number of

574
00:34:20,970 --> 00:34:23,370
them that have been done, you
know, people have used it as an

575
00:34:23,370 --> 00:34:27,840
investment vehicle, you know, to
instead of going through the

576
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:32,610
banking system, just okay, just
by by some of our crypto coin

577
00:34:32,610 --> 00:34:36,990
and you know, it was not really
shares but it kind of looks like

578
00:34:36,990 --> 00:34:37,290
it

579
00:34:37,529 --> 00:34:46,319
here have that as long as you
KYC KYC mas very strange KYC

580
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:56,220
So, we'll see KYC in our case
involves podcasting. And so I

581
00:34:56,220 --> 00:34:59,280
finally watched Alex Inc. Ah,
you know,

582
00:34:59,339 --> 00:35:03,719
I I gotta say something right
off the bat about that. The guy

583
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:08,669
is using a mic you're using
today. Heil PR. 40. Yeah.

584
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:10,020
And you know, let's

585
00:35:10,020 --> 00:35:13,140
just forget, that just irritates
me to No, and that the guy is

586
00:35:13,170 --> 00:35:16,500
the first one. He's recording
everywhere. He's holding this

587
00:35:16,500 --> 00:35:19,560
mic in his hands. And when he's
talking, he's talking over the

588
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:23,070
top of it, which is not how this
microphone actually will work,

589
00:35:23,100 --> 00:35:26,190
actually now in fighter
microphones that are right, and

590
00:35:26,490 --> 00:35:31,050
they have the capsule the setup
down the tube. Yeah. None of

591
00:35:31,050 --> 00:35:32,460
them. You talk over the top of

592
00:35:32,550 --> 00:35:35,250
it. Could you since you're using
the exact same microphone used

593
00:35:35,250 --> 00:35:38,100
on Alex, and could you give us a
demo of how that would sound?

594
00:35:38,610 --> 00:35:42,150
Okay, well, here I am. In fact,
I'll max out this thing because

595
00:35:42,150 --> 00:35:44,760
this thing does have his little
proximity effect is Mike, I

596
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,550
don't have the headphones on but
I know how to do it. For

597
00:35:47,550 --> 00:35:51,450
example, have you taken off that
pop filter? And if you get a

598
00:35:51,450 --> 00:35:53,610
little close like this, it
sounds like this right down

599
00:35:53,730 --> 00:35:57,270
right down the tube. That's
you'd never sounded better. You

600
00:35:57,270 --> 00:36:01,320
can't sound any better than
this. Do you sound so hot? So

601
00:36:01,470 --> 00:36:05,190
normally, you'll do a one fist
distance and you get back about

602
00:36:05,190 --> 00:36:07,920
this far and you're talking to
this mic. Now if you talk over

603
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:12,060
the top now you notice that even
though I do have a cold, I've

604
00:36:12,060 --> 00:36:15,540
got a lot of mellifluous notes.
It's kind of it's kind of bassy

605
00:36:15,540 --> 00:36:18,720
it's got a nice sound. Now I'm
gonna flip the mic so I'm

606
00:36:18,720 --> 00:36:23,820
talking over this top Yes. Yeah,
yeah, I just talking over the

607
00:36:23,820 --> 00:36:26,610
top thing goes back to some
broadcasting school. I don't

608
00:36:26,610 --> 00:36:29,100
even know what mics are talking
about where you do this, but

609
00:36:29,130 --> 00:36:33,900
that's what they were doing. I
mean, watch a singer. I'm not

610
00:36:33,900 --> 00:36:35,220
doing it yet. Now watch this.

611
00:36:37,020 --> 00:36:38,550
Do the demo. Just just get these

612
00:36:38,580 --> 00:36:39,540
I'm just trying to think.

613
00:36:40,350 --> 00:36:43,500
But we still have the sexy JCB
voice in our head. Now we want

614
00:36:43,500 --> 00:36:44,610
to hear the Alex Inc

615
00:36:44,610 --> 00:36:49,320
version. Either I'm talking over
the top of the PR 40 Oh, and

616
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:53,010
it's plopping like nuts and is
popping for some unknown reason

617
00:36:53,010 --> 00:36:55,440
I put the pop filter in front so
I'm not talking Okay, now I'm

618
00:36:55,620 --> 00:36:58,530
talking through the pop filter
over the top of them. You sound

619
00:36:58,530 --> 00:37:02,670
great. It's been on me I should
now do you sound like shit? I

620
00:37:02,670 --> 00:37:05,340
should sound like shifty because
you're not supposed to talk like

621
00:37:05,340 --> 00:37:07,230
this on this mic. All right.

622
00:37:07,590 --> 00:37:09,750
Do you want to say anything
about this show? Because I've

623
00:37:09,750 --> 00:37:10,620
stopped watching it

624
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,350
Well anyway, I was gonna just
mention that if you watch those

625
00:37:13,350 --> 00:37:16,980
all those videos of singers with
these high end mics there and

626
00:37:16,980 --> 00:37:20,040
they're talking to into the side
of it that's because the capsule

627
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,950
sitting there you're talking
right at the capsule. That's

628
00:37:22,950 --> 00:37:25,260
what you do you talk at the
capsule you don't talk over the

629
00:37:25,260 --> 00:37:25,620
top

630
00:37:25,620 --> 00:37:28,530
either way. I liked you better
without the plot the plot

631
00:37:28,530 --> 00:37:29,070
filter.

632
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:35,160
Okay, take it off. Take it off.

633
00:37:35,430 --> 00:37:39,090
You want me to tell you? Oh,
yes. Yeah, all day. The whole

634
00:37:39,090 --> 00:37:43,290
show is gonna be like this all
day long. All right. So here is

635
00:37:43,290 --> 00:37:48,420
the I have a clip Oh, which I
think was kind of indicative of

636
00:37:48,420 --> 00:37:51,750
the of the show itself. And by
the way, the show reminds me

637
00:37:51,780 --> 00:37:55,080
except is not really about
podcasting is about this family.

638
00:37:55,170 --> 00:37:58,170
Especially this one little boy
who dominates the show. Yeah.

639
00:37:59,220 --> 00:38:03,780
It's a It's me. Do they even
have a run bloom? And that guy's

640
00:38:03,780 --> 00:38:06,330
you? The guy talking over the
top of the mic?

641
00:38:06,390 --> 00:38:09,450
Yeah. Oh, yeah. There you go.
That makes nothing but sense. So

642
00:38:09,450 --> 00:38:11,130
they stole my life is what
you're saying

643
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:15,540
they did because this guy is the
actor that tiny an actor that

644
00:38:16,050 --> 00:38:19,740
plays the other co owner. He's
like, he's looks like the talks.

645
00:38:19,890 --> 00:38:20,550
Were on blue.

646
00:38:21,870 --> 00:38:23,310
Yes, you're right.

647
00:38:24,240 --> 00:38:26,460
Like, what is this? What?

648
00:38:26,490 --> 00:38:28,710
I don't see any clip for this?
What are you talking about here?

649
00:38:28,799 --> 00:38:33,269
I'm looking for it now. I just
had it. Finding a good podcast.

650
00:38:33,389 --> 00:38:35,909
Yeah. Now this is the kind of
dialogue the kind of thing we

651
00:38:35,909 --> 00:38:39,329
expect. This show sucks, by the
way. Yeah, it does.

652
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,610
And he just sent me a list of
potential podcasts for our

653
00:38:44,610 --> 00:38:47,610
company to produce there's over
200 submissions every wants to

654
00:38:47,610 --> 00:38:50,790
be our next big thing. Anything
good. Some are okay. Some are

655
00:38:50,790 --> 00:38:53,340
horrible. None are right for us.
The problem is that everyone the

656
00:38:53,340 --> 00:38:55,920
mother thinks they have a good
idea for a podcast. No, I

657
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:57,840
actually have a great idea for a
podcast,

658
00:38:57,870 --> 00:39:00,270
right? That's exactly what they
all sound like. No, I'm

659
00:39:00,270 --> 00:39:03,210
serious. Do you remember the
Flanary murder? Oh God, this is

660
00:39:03,210 --> 00:39:05,760
happening. I was fresh out of
law school clerking for that

661
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:08,430
judge, the defendant got off,
but the real killer was never

662
00:39:08,430 --> 00:39:10,590
found. And it's been haunting me
ever since.

663
00:39:11,220 --> 00:39:13,770
I know you're trying to help but
it's not that simple. It takes

664
00:39:13,770 --> 00:39:16,800
more than a kernel of an idea to
make a great podcast. There's a

665
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:22,620
certain alchemy Dare I say?
Magic? But that's not

666
00:39:22,620 --> 00:39:24,450
pretentious. Dare I say?

667
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:26,910
Yeah, it totally did. Was it the
hand gesture?

668
00:39:27,150 --> 00:39:28,020
That was the whole thing.

669
00:39:33,150 --> 00:39:36,240
Music is killing. Search
continued our options were

670
00:39:36,240 --> 00:39:40,770
looking bleak. They range from
just okay to well, this is a

671
00:39:40,770 --> 00:39:43,200
show about interspecies

672
00:39:43,230 --> 00:39:46,830
friendship. So if this actually
shows me one thing I'm wrong by

673
00:39:46,830 --> 00:39:50,550
have been and this by the way,
it's not my life or me. Vo This

674
00:39:50,550 --> 00:39:53,970
is the giblet media and the guy
who started you know it's cereal

675
00:39:53,970 --> 00:39:56,730
was their first show. That's
that's what this story is about.

676
00:39:56,730 --> 00:40:00,270
Surely you you knew that when
you watched it. No If you're

677
00:40:00,270 --> 00:40:02,040
thinking me, you know, it's not.

678
00:40:03,930 --> 00:40:05,580
I wasn't gonna say out.

679
00:40:06,539 --> 00:40:08,489
You said you were wrong about
something. Yes. What I

680
00:40:08,489 --> 00:40:12,269
was wrong about is what the what
the show proves although won't

681
00:40:12,269 --> 00:40:16,259
last is that you can monetize
the network as long as you make

682
00:40:16,259 --> 00:40:20,849
a show about it. The actual
network can't be monetized. But

683
00:40:20,849 --> 00:40:23,489
if you make a show Yeah, yeah,
it can be. Now it's a

684
00:40:23,490 --> 00:40:27,450
couple of things. Funny. Yeah.
It's like they show this guy.

685
00:40:28,020 --> 00:40:31,050
It's like they have a little
meeting. And then some people

686
00:40:31,050 --> 00:40:36,300
come in with, with cards and
they pitch shows. Yeah. What is

687
00:40:36,330 --> 00:40:42,270
why? What is this ever had? So
they come this bullcrap that the

688
00:40:42,270 --> 00:40:44,490
whole thing is nuts. It's not
the way it works.

689
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:46,350
No, we know exactly how it
works.

690
00:40:48,090 --> 00:40:49,290
Yeah, and that ain't it.

691
00:40:51,030 --> 00:40:53,010
I'm talking over the mic thing
is pretty funny.

692
00:40:53,220 --> 00:41:00,960
Well, this is this is how it
really works. During executive

693
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:04,230
mode, all right. Yeah, she
wasn't very hot. So we don't

694
00:41:04,230 --> 00:41:08,790
want her show, do it? No.
Actually, I want it to be in

695
00:41:08,790 --> 00:41:13,680
executive mode for a moment.
Okay. This is something that

696
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:19,350
went on on the on the tweeter.
You commented on it. And I think

697
00:41:19,350 --> 00:41:22,950
I even said we should go enter
executive mode. And it was

698
00:41:22,950 --> 00:41:28,050
something you tweeted and you
said, why why do the lip Joes

699
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:31,890
need to do video? Why don't they
just stick to good reporting?

700
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:33,630
And I

701
00:41:33,630 --> 00:41:36,240
say yes, yeah, there's because
there's Washington Post has a

702
00:41:36,240 --> 00:41:40,500
little video show every
Thursday. Yep. And it is the

703
00:41:40,500 --> 00:41:41,130
worst.

704
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:45,420
Well, I got the opening segment
of the show. And this is Molly

705
00:41:45,420 --> 00:41:48,120
Roberts, one of their star
reporters. Now, since we're an

706
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:52,410
executive, she's a Trump,
Hitman. Yes. Since we're in an

707
00:41:52,410 --> 00:41:57,330
executive mode, she really has
no business being on video. No,

708
00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:00,240
I mean, she's got the perfect
face for print. And I'm saying

709
00:42:00,240 --> 00:42:03,390
this as an executive not not
being mean or misogynistic.

710
00:42:03,450 --> 00:42:08,280
No, she's she's, she's actually
slightly. The problem with video

711
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:11,160
just to be honest about if and
people kind of know this, but

712
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,860
they don't want to talk about
it, is that you have to be

713
00:42:13,860 --> 00:42:16,680
pleasant looking at because
you're going to be watching

714
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:19,740
somebody talk. And if they got
idiosyncrasies, and they scrunch

715
00:42:19,740 --> 00:42:23,790
up their face, they wear no
makeup, and they spit. I mean,

716
00:42:23,790 --> 00:42:26,820
you just you can't put up with
you won't watch the show. So you

717
00:42:26,820 --> 00:42:29,640
have to avoid people like that.
And you have to put pleasant

718
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:33,270
looking people that know how to
read. And they can read it from

719
00:42:33,270 --> 00:42:36,360
a prompter. So it sounds
natural. That's what you want,

720
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:37,560
because you're looking at him.

721
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:41,640
Now we're going to listen and
this will help us evaluate the

722
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:46,530
technical quality. And I don't
understand why a publication

723
00:42:46,530 --> 00:42:49,860
such as the Washington Post
lowers their standards to such a

724
00:42:49,860 --> 00:42:53,220
degree. Or maybe they just don't
see it or maybe they don't care.

725
00:42:53,220 --> 00:42:54,120
It's a throw away. I

726
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:56,850
have I have thoughts on this. I
want to hear him later. Yeah, I

727
00:42:56,850 --> 00:43:00,270
do. Here's a here's the opening
and let's just listen to the

728
00:43:00,270 --> 00:43:05,160
handoffs to hurry to the other
people. It's a complete shit

729
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:08,220
show. President Trump threatens
to boxes how it opens. By the

730
00:43:08,220 --> 00:43:10,920
way, there's no there's no
opening title. No bombastic

731
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:12,240
music just start President

732
00:43:12,240 --> 00:43:15,900
Trump threatens to bomb Syria,
downgrades relations with Russia

733
00:43:16,050 --> 00:43:19,740
and lashes out after an FBI raid
on his personal lawyer's office.

734
00:43:20,100 --> 00:43:23,460
Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg tap
dances through congressional

735
00:43:23,460 --> 00:43:27,390
hearings. House Speaker Paul
Ryan calls it quits. And it's

736
00:43:27,420 --> 00:43:29,340
only Thursday now.

737
00:43:30,990 --> 00:43:35,760
So this is the tease. And I'm
not to use it all. And then she

738
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:39,510
says it's only Thursday. What
does that even mean? If she said

739
00:43:39,510 --> 00:43:41,610
it's only Monday? Maybe Tuesday?

740
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:47,040
No, that's the name of the show.
You're kidding me? No. Oh, Jase.

741
00:43:47,130 --> 00:43:49,170
It's called it's only Thursday.

742
00:43:49,319 --> 00:43:53,129
Yes. This whole concept is
wrong.

743
00:43:55,050 --> 00:43:58,020
I'm Molly Roberts, with Fred
Hiatt editor of the Washington

744
00:43:58,020 --> 00:44:01,290
Post editorial page and opinion
columnist Christine Anba. And

745
00:44:01,290 --> 00:44:04,950
Dana Milbank, folks watching on
Facebook and YouTube. Folks, if

746
00:44:04,950 --> 00:44:07,740
your comments and questions make
us think we'll try to get them

747
00:44:07,740 --> 00:44:11,220
on the show. Dana, you were on
Capitol Hill for the Facebook

748
00:44:11,220 --> 00:44:13,680
hearings and you tweeted out
this photo of Zuckerberg sitting

749
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:19,170
on what appears to be a booster
seat. i Well, yeah. Can you

750
00:44:19,170 --> 00:44:19,680
stand that?

751
00:44:20,940 --> 00:44:24,540
It shows that we're here because
you know, when I was his age, we

752
00:44:24,570 --> 00:44:30,510
were nice mic sound perfect. So
phonebooks so this was a wee bit

753
00:44:30,510 --> 00:44:31,020
different.

754
00:44:31,230 --> 00:44:34,380
I want more details on that and
everything else later. But

755
00:44:34,380 --> 00:44:38,160
first, let's focus on what
distracted President later.

756
00:44:38,820 --> 00:44:42,870
Because it's another tease. It's
a tease after the tease. The

757
00:44:42,870 --> 00:44:43,950
whole thing is

758
00:44:43,950 --> 00:44:47,190
just by the way, nothing galls
me more than that. We will talk

759
00:44:47,190 --> 00:44:49,890
about that later, because they
never get around to it rarely in

760
00:44:49,890 --> 00:44:50,250
the midst

761
00:44:50,250 --> 00:44:54,000
of major national security
issues. The FBI raid of the

762
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:58,050
Office of Trump's so called Fix
it man, Michael Cohen. He's the

763
00:44:58,050 --> 00:45:00,240
lawyer who paid hush money to
stormy Daniels. So,

764
00:45:01,050 --> 00:45:03,750
is that okay to editorialize
like that and say it's hush

765
00:45:03,750 --> 00:45:04,260
money?

766
00:45:05,549 --> 00:45:08,579
Oh, he said she said hush money.
She also said so called Fix it

767
00:45:08,579 --> 00:45:11,579
more you can say so which by the
way would be the right term

768
00:45:11,579 --> 00:45:15,659
would be fixer. Yes. Is the fix
it man which you get to come and

769
00:45:15,659 --> 00:45:19,409
do the plumbing? Yeah, toilet
handle?

770
00:45:19,439 --> 00:45:21,989
Yeah, that's the idea. That is
definitely the idea.

771
00:45:22,229 --> 00:45:25,799
And on Monday, the FBI made the
unusual move of seizing

772
00:45:25,799 --> 00:45:29,219
documents from his New York City
office. Trump says as he said

773
00:45:29,219 --> 00:45:31,379
before, that it's all a witch
hunt.

774
00:45:31,649 --> 00:45:34,199
Anyway, so it's just it's
horrible. I just don't

775
00:45:34,199 --> 00:45:36,149
understand why they do it. I
really don't. I

776
00:45:36,149 --> 00:45:38,759
mean, I have my thoughts on
this. Okay. I'd love to hear it.

777
00:45:40,259 --> 00:45:44,189
Well, for one thing, the New
York Times has done this. And so

778
00:45:44,189 --> 00:45:48,089
other newspapers feel that they
need to do it. Everybody feels

779
00:45:48,089 --> 00:45:51,389
because somebody else has done
it. They feel that they need to

780
00:45:51,389 --> 00:45:54,359
do it. Yeah. And so and so it
becomes like, oh, we have to

781
00:45:54,359 --> 00:45:56,759
have we have to do this because
everyone else is doing and

782
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:58,980
it's an incredible waste of
money.

783
00:45:59,550 --> 00:46:03,030
It's a big waste of money and
time. And it's an embarrassment.

784
00:46:03,060 --> 00:46:06,420
Yes. Even the ones who start I
mean, New York Times has that

785
00:46:06,420 --> 00:46:10,410
little podcast which at least is
audio so that but it's not very

786
00:46:10,410 --> 00:46:14,340
good. And then it's just the day
all do it because they all feel

787
00:46:14,340 --> 00:46:17,250
that they all feel obliged to do
because the other guys are doing

788
00:46:17,250 --> 00:46:20,670
it. That's the only real reason.
Yeah. So then they asked for

789
00:46:20,670 --> 00:46:24,090
volunteers who wants to do who
wants to do a pie? No one's

790
00:46:24,090 --> 00:46:24,390
getting

791
00:46:24,390 --> 00:46:27,360
pie one's getting paid extra and
this is where it will eventually

792
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:27,960
break down.

793
00:46:28,830 --> 00:46:31,620
Nobody's getting paid extra.
That's true. And everybody wants

794
00:46:31,620 --> 00:46:34,650
to do Oh, I'll do it. I want to
do it. Oh, I can do it. Oh, I've

795
00:46:34,650 --> 00:46:39,060
done I used to do commas radio
college radio nice. No, they

796
00:46:39,060 --> 00:46:42,060
don't even do that. I used to do
in high school I used to be in

797
00:46:42,060 --> 00:46:42,990
the drama club.

798
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:48,300
I think I can do it It's
pathetic. But okay.

799
00:46:49,650 --> 00:46:52,710
They want to do it let him do
it. I mean it's I would be

800
00:46:53,250 --> 00:46:57,720
happier if they had information
that we could use on the show

801
00:46:57,750 --> 00:46:59,430
but no, yeah.

802
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:02,460
Let me just exit this for
secretive mode

803
00:47:02,460 --> 00:47:04,920
has expired. Please make your
way to the exit.

804
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:11,730
Get out of executive Mar here. I
did have a fun little am boys

805
00:47:11,730 --> 00:47:15,540
total bullcrap clip. Tell me if
you can catch it.

806
00:47:15,570 --> 00:47:18,750
Juarez allegedly whipped out a
handgun shooting two police

807
00:47:18,750 --> 00:47:22,650
officers and an employee before
taking off in that truck. This

808
00:47:22,650 --> 00:47:26,940
incident almost two years to the
day to the July 7 Ambush which

809
00:47:26,940 --> 00:47:28,950
killed five Dallas police
officers.

810
00:47:29,759 --> 00:47:34,109
Now mind you this. This was
April 25.

811
00:47:36,030 --> 00:47:38,880
Okay, okay, not two years to the
day

812
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:42,570
was allegedly whipped out a
handgun, shoot legit police

813
00:47:42,570 --> 00:47:46,500
officers and an employee before
taking off in that truck. This

814
00:47:46,500 --> 00:47:50,790
incident almost two years to the
day to the July 7 Ambush which

815
00:47:50,790 --> 00:47:52,800
killed five Dallas police
officers

816
00:47:52,860 --> 00:47:58,800
April to July almost two July
was two years to the day. What

817
00:47:58,800 --> 00:47:59,550
is that?

818
00:48:00,180 --> 00:48:00,720
Wow,

819
00:48:00,750 --> 00:48:04,620
who wrote that? Talking about
shoring your story? Yeah.

820
00:48:04,950 --> 00:48:08,820
Oh, I did since you did a TV
review. I'll give you one I'm

821
00:48:08,850 --> 00:48:12,840
surprised I'm saying this
because I'm not a Star Wars Star

822
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:17,220
Trek sci fi kind of guy at all.
But I You aren't I binge watch

823
00:48:17,250 --> 00:48:22,530
the reboot of Lost in Space and
I loved it. Oh, God, it was

824
00:48:22,530 --> 00:48:27,780
fantastic. I grew up with loss
and space. So that helps. But

825
00:48:27,810 --> 00:48:31,110
you know the robot how that came
to be and what the robot is. Dr.

826
00:48:31,110 --> 00:48:33,600
Smith is a woman Posie Parker

827
00:48:34,380 --> 00:48:37,800
Posey Parker plays the evil
doctor. Yes, yes. And Malia she

828
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:39,300
plays a good evil character.
Very

829
00:48:39,300 --> 00:48:43,590
good. And Molly Parker is the
the mom of the family. She's the

830
00:48:43,620 --> 00:48:47,520
she was the chief of staff on
West Wing, great actress. And

831
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:51,360
it's not it's not too hokey. If
they put a lot of money into

832
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:51,780
this.

833
00:48:52,860 --> 00:48:55,560
I saw the trailer and I said,
wow, there's a lot of effort.

834
00:48:56,250 --> 00:49:01,620
Effort. A lot of money. Yes. In
this in the CGI is just really

835
00:49:01,620 --> 00:49:02,280
out of control.

836
00:49:02,310 --> 00:49:05,580
It's well done. It's very well
done. Yeah, I'm surprised

837
00:49:05,580 --> 00:49:05,820
another

838
00:49:05,820 --> 00:49:06,810
thing I don't want to watch.

839
00:49:09,240 --> 00:49:13,590
All right, um, let's see. Maybe
we should

840
00:49:14,460 --> 00:49:15,150
begin. Well, first

841
00:49:15,150 --> 00:49:17,820
of all, let's do a couple of
things. Since you're talking

842
00:49:17,820 --> 00:49:21,060
about bogus stories, yeah, let's
play that. Let's play the bogus

843
00:49:21,060 --> 00:49:24,060
chocolate study, which is all
over the news. Every mainstream

844
00:49:24,060 --> 00:49:27,090
media guy outlet had this
chocolate story. Thank you,

845
00:49:27,090 --> 00:49:27,720
Michael. For

846
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:32,010
Two new studies, two are touting
the benefits of dark chocolate

847
00:49:32,010 --> 00:49:35,040
as if we needed more evidence.
The findings show that eating

848
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:37,950
dark chocolate with a high
concentration of cacao has

849
00:49:37,950 --> 00:49:42,090
positive effects on stress,
mood, memory, and warding off

850
00:49:42,090 --> 00:49:45,600
diseases. Research funded by
Loma Linda University in San

851
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:49,680
Bernardino County found that
five people who weighed 48 grams

852
00:49:49,890 --> 00:49:55,320
of 70% cacao all had increases
in brainwave activity. Chocolate

853
00:49:55,350 --> 00:49:59,250
is also rich in antioxidants. It
has anti inflammatory benefits.

854
00:49:59,250 --> 00:50:03,120
A reminder though Penny's high
in sugar and calories. Wow

855
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:06,930
is the chocolate Association of
America out with a new native ad

856
00:50:06,930 --> 00:50:07,650
campaign.

857
00:50:07,980 --> 00:50:09,960
I don't know. But everyone's
carrying this thing but the

858
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:15,210
thing about it makes us so
stupid. Was it's the study is on

859
00:50:15,210 --> 00:50:20,730
five people right into this
slipped it in somehow. I didn't

860
00:50:20,730 --> 00:50:21,720
notice it right away

861
00:50:21,720 --> 00:50:24,870
this they say this in the piece.
Yeah, I'm here again.

862
00:50:25,020 --> 00:50:28,320
Thank you, Michael. Sure. All
right. Two new studies two are

863
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:31,170
touting the benefits of dark
chocolate as if we needed more

864
00:50:31,170 --> 00:50:34,080
evidence. The findings show that
eating dark chocolate with a

865
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:38,790
high concentration of cacao has
positive effects on stress, mood

866
00:50:38,790 --> 00:50:42,360
memory, and warding off
diseases. Research funded by

867
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:45,030
Loma Linda University in San
Bernardino County found that

868
00:50:45,150 --> 00:50:47,880
five people weighed 48 grams.

869
00:50:48,510 --> 00:50:52,740
Wow, good catch, you know, it's
crazy how I didn't even hear it.

870
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:54,870
Because that's something I
should have said hold on a

871
00:50:54,870 --> 00:50:58,290
second N equals five that's not
that's not a great knee

872
00:50:58,290 --> 00:51:01,500
here the I didn't hear it until
I taped in and listen to a duck

873
00:51:01,500 --> 00:51:05,340
just audio and I heard the five
I said what? What this isn't

874
00:51:05,340 --> 00:51:07,530
even this is ridiculous.

875
00:51:10,470 --> 00:51:13,530
And you say that this same story
is everywhere about the same

876
00:51:13,530 --> 00:51:14,340
five people.

877
00:51:14,609 --> 00:51:17,999
That was a local story. I think
most local news outlets had it

878
00:51:18,029 --> 00:51:22,109
and then they added on ABC I
know for a fact ABC national

879
00:51:22,109 --> 00:51:24,959
news and I'm guessing it was
everywhere. Hmm.

880
00:51:25,470 --> 00:51:28,530
Well then it must be a native
ad. Well, he's

881
00:51:28,530 --> 00:51:32,130
that or it must be they dropped
off a bookcase a chocolate.

882
00:51:33,540 --> 00:51:35,160
Yeah, I don't know if that's
enough

883
00:51:36,450 --> 00:51:40,530
for these guys. Yeah, it could
be it could be I do it. I got a

884
00:51:40,530 --> 00:51:45,300
lot of stuff on the face bag
Analytica, I think the Toronto

885
00:51:45,300 --> 00:51:48,450
thing is interesting. But you
know, maybe just before we get

886
00:51:48,450 --> 00:51:52,470
to our first break, we pick up
on the story that we talked

887
00:51:52,470 --> 00:51:55,620
about on the no agenda show, I'm
gonna say more than a year ago.

888
00:51:56,279 --> 00:52:01,439
By 2020. China plans to give all
of its 1.4 billion citizens a

889
00:52:01,439 --> 00:52:05,729
personal score based on how they
behave. So some people with low

890
00:52:05,729 --> 00:52:08,909
scores are already being pushed
if they want already being

891
00:52:08,909 --> 00:52:12,329
punished, rather, if they want
to travel, nearly 11 million

892
00:52:12,329 --> 00:52:16,109
Chinese people can no longer
fly, and 4 million are barred

893
00:52:16,109 --> 00:52:19,319
from trains. Next week, the
program will start expanding

894
00:52:19,319 --> 00:52:22,499
nationwide. Ben Tracy is in
China with what's behind the

895
00:52:22,499 --> 00:52:25,409
government scoring system. Ben
this sounds like scary stuff.

896
00:52:25,409 --> 00:52:27,389
Good morning. Scary the
government

897
00:52:27,390 --> 00:52:31,410
here says it is trying to purify
society by those who are

898
00:52:31,410 --> 00:52:35,220
trustworthy and punishing those
who are not. So like the credit

899
00:52:35,220 --> 00:52:37,440
score that most Americans get
for how they handle their

900
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:41,430
finances. Chinese are now
getting social credit scores

901
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:45,120
based on everything from whether
they pay their taxes on time to

902
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:46,260
how they cross the street.

903
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:50,460
I love the purify society. Yeah,
translation. That's great,

904
00:52:50,940 --> 00:52:53,940
purify society. And we're not
far from that

905
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:57,810
same thing. Well, we're just
doing

906
00:52:57,810 --> 00:53:02,310
it for your financial the
financial part of your life now

907
00:53:02,310 --> 00:53:02,640
but

908
00:53:03,330 --> 00:53:06,150
yeah, but that's falling over
into all kinds of other things.

909
00:53:06,510 --> 00:53:09,450
Well, let's just check your FICO
score if you get out try to be a

910
00:53:09,450 --> 00:53:13,020
student debt, some college? Yep,
Fico. My Fico. Fico. Yeah, I

911
00:53:13,020 --> 00:53:16,050
always say FICO is wrong. I
don't know why I like to know

912
00:53:16,050 --> 00:53:16,740
why he's a five

913
00:53:16,740 --> 00:53:21,030
because FICA is that tax that
you pay forever. Until you reach

914
00:53:21,030 --> 00:53:27,450
a certain level. It's a part of
your wage tax. Yeah, it's like

915
00:53:27,450 --> 00:53:33,780
federal insurance. gonna rip you
off thing. Oh, so that's why

916
00:53:33,780 --> 00:53:34,350
that probably your

917
00:53:35,220 --> 00:53:37,050
ad is what it is. Right.

918
00:53:39,210 --> 00:53:45,180
But I always say, sorry, that's
okay. So it's the FICO thing

919
00:53:45,180 --> 00:53:47,940
which we bitched about this
before it's just ridiculous,

920
00:53:48,630 --> 00:53:48,990
right?

921
00:53:48,990 --> 00:53:53,100
But when you combine it with
other things, and I think I'll

922
00:53:53,100 --> 00:53:56,850
have some examples of that later
on. It becomes you know, we've

923
00:53:56,850 --> 00:53:59,370
all seen the Black Mirror
Episode How come that hasn't

924
00:53:59,370 --> 00:54:01,770
just happened already? Why
hasn't face bag just hit him?

925
00:54:01,770 --> 00:54:04,620
Right, your friends? I mean,
what would it what would it take

926
00:54:04,620 --> 00:54:08,040
for them to do that? But yeah,
but will it be them?

927
00:54:09,870 --> 00:54:11,970
Don't you think people want to
do that? I totally think

928
00:54:11,970 --> 00:54:15,540
they want to do it. And wait
until you hear this. This VP of

929
00:54:15,540 --> 00:54:20,850
global policy management at face
bag. Monica bickered, you get a

930
00:54:20,850 --> 00:54:24,900
whole idea of how they think
over there and mainly of course

931
00:54:24,900 --> 00:54:27,390
is that we can't you know we
can't do without them our life

932
00:54:27,390 --> 00:54:29,910
can't it here. Here's an
example. This is CNBC not

933
00:54:29,910 --> 00:54:34,560
talking about face bag, but that
other giant who is next. We know

934
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:38,490
that Google is going to be next
for their products. If not, then

935
00:54:38,490 --> 00:54:40,740
we have a different issue.
Listen to how this report starts

936
00:54:40,740 --> 00:54:41,040
off. There

937
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:42,720
wasn't a lot of surprises
Melissa,

938
00:54:42,750 --> 00:54:46,590
this is about a guest it was
earnings yesterday and and a

939
00:54:46,590 --> 00:54:49,350
face bag gave their earnings
which are spectacular. Google

940
00:54:49,350 --> 00:54:51,180
gave their earnings also
spectacular. It

941
00:54:51,180 --> 00:54:53,730
wasn't a lot of surprises,
Melissa, but I just want to put

942
00:54:53,730 --> 00:54:56,850
something in perspective of the
world cannot live without

943
00:54:56,850 --> 00:54:59,910
Google. We can't live without
Facebook. But Google is part of

944
00:54:59,910 --> 00:55:02,790
that. fabric, your oxygen to the
internet. And as evidence of

945
00:55:02,790 --> 00:55:05,910
that top line growth 23% The
same I mean,

946
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:09,420
if that's really the thinking,
and I'm sure it is, this is I'm

947
00:55:09,420 --> 00:55:12,540
sure this is completely
disturbing. We can't believe we

948
00:55:12,540 --> 00:55:14,490
can't live without can easily

949
00:55:14,490 --> 00:55:19,920
live without Google. Bing, by
the way does work. You don't

950
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:23,520
need Google, necessarily the one
you can't live without and I've

951
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:24,690
written about this too,

952
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:30,690
is Amazon. Yeah, they're
problematic because of AWS. Yep.

953
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:31,320
Yep.

954
00:55:33,390 --> 00:55:39,480
That Grenache into the fabric of
society in a very, very cool way

955
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:44,190
that just makes them impossible
to get rid of. Yeah, well, they

956
00:55:44,190 --> 00:55:47,190
have their lobbying company,
which is the Washington Post.

957
00:55:47,190 --> 00:55:47,340
But

958
00:55:47,340 --> 00:55:50,340
hold on a second, John, let's be
honest, if Amazon disappeared

959
00:55:50,340 --> 00:55:51,060
tomorrow,

960
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:54,030
what a joyous day that would be.

961
00:55:55,110 --> 00:55:57,900
I mean, think of all the
bullcrap companies that were

962
00:55:57,900 --> 00:56:01,230
just all of a sudden have no
website economy

963
00:56:01,230 --> 00:56:03,150
would collapse in a minute.

964
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:09,390
Again, think of how much fun
we'd have. Oh, what a joyous day

965
00:56:09,390 --> 00:56:13,530
that we're on time. And with
that, I'd like to thank you for

966
00:56:13,530 --> 00:56:17,820
your courage and say the morning
to you John. C stands for

967
00:56:18,060 --> 00:56:21,150
chocolate a booger tivity devil
rag

968
00:56:21,420 --> 00:56:24,000
in the morning New York Mr. Adam
curry in the morning all ships

969
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:25,980
to see boots on the ground feet
in the air substantive one are

970
00:56:25,980 --> 00:56:27,090
all the dangers out there?

971
00:56:27,570 --> 00:56:31,140
Yes. In the morning to the chat.
Read the troll room, I should

972
00:56:31,140 --> 00:56:36,990
say. You can find that all the
activity at no agenda stream.com

973
00:56:36,990 --> 00:56:40,260
trolls in there and they're all
having a good time. I also want

974
00:56:40,260 --> 00:56:46,320
to say in the morning to Mark G.
He brought us the artwork for

975
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:51,030
episode 1027 title that was
folding preschool, which I have

976
00:56:51,030 --> 00:56:55,830
now been alerted. We miss heard
the clip. Even though that was

977
00:56:55,860 --> 00:57:01,650
the fault of the presenter. It
is a full time preschool. No,

978
00:57:01,650 --> 00:57:01,950
that's

979
00:57:01,950 --> 00:57:05,400
bull crap. I knew you'd say I
have listened to it over and

980
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:08,280
again and I know what it is.
Okay, what is it?

981
00:57:09,540 --> 00:57:15,060
Holding? Holding? Holding? Yes,
holding.

982
00:57:16,110 --> 00:57:20,280
Go back to the clip. It's you
still have it? Let me see. Nine.

983
00:57:20,460 --> 00:57:23,880
What was what was that one that
somebody sent that there's no

984
00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:26,580
evidence there's nothing there's
none of those sounds in there.

985
00:57:29,250 --> 00:57:34,530
Folding. I can't find it for
some reason. Was the title

986
00:57:34,530 --> 00:57:37,080
folding might have been

987
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:43,500
anyway, besides that, the
artwork was very nice. It had a

988
00:57:43,500 --> 00:57:47,490
bunch of bombs dropping. We
weren't quite sure what it

989
00:57:47,490 --> 00:57:50,460
meant. But one was glitch
wouldn't had marijuana on the

990
00:57:50,460 --> 00:57:54,030
side one had snafu. IRS. It was
yeah, it was just kind of funny.

991
00:57:54,060 --> 00:57:57,570
Like okay, we'll take this as
good. And we know as well done.

992
00:57:57,600 --> 00:57:59,880
Yeah, we thank you very much
Mark G mochi. Good to have you

993
00:57:59,880 --> 00:58:02,610
back. He's done a lot of artwork
for us in the past. No agenda

994
00:58:02,610 --> 00:58:05,670
art generator.com is where you
can upload your art. That is

995
00:58:05,670 --> 00:58:09,720
what lots of artists do. And we
appreciate the work that I do.

996
00:58:09,750 --> 00:58:11,700
Because you know, it's tough
when you don't get chosen.

997
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:12,570
I understand.

998
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:18,270
But we we that's the one thing
we debate about on a show Lea

999
00:58:18,270 --> 00:58:18,900
basis.

1000
00:58:20,100 --> 00:58:23,220
We don't debate about much else
but that we debate about what

1001
00:58:23,220 --> 00:58:26,640
are they the title is also title
is arguable. Well, we

1002
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:28,830
never argue about is our
executive producers and our

1003
00:58:28,830 --> 00:58:31,410
Associate Executive producers
who we give a special thank you

1004
00:58:31,410 --> 00:58:34,020
at the beginning of the show,
just like Hollywood and these

1005
00:58:34,020 --> 00:58:34,920
are real credits.

1006
00:58:35,370 --> 00:58:39,630
Who do we have John? Starting
off with? Sir Woody.

1007
00:58:40,950 --> 00:58:46,170
And he's in Great Britain
$333.33 the executive producer?

1008
00:58:46,650 --> 00:58:50,880
I know it seems like less oops,
it only seems like yesterday

1009
00:58:51,450 --> 00:58:55,740
that you knighted me on show 772
But I'm ashamed to say I've

1010
00:58:55,740 --> 00:58:56,970
hardly listened since

1011
00:58:57,990 --> 00:59:00,000
man over Boy Yeah, for real

1012
00:59:00,029 --> 00:59:03,809
it's given a pretty crazy few
years. A producer I've hit in

1013
00:59:03,809 --> 00:59:07,139
the mouth a few years ago does
the same to me every time I see

1014
00:59:07,139 --> 00:59:12,179
him and on discovering my car
now has not discovered my car

1015
00:59:12,179 --> 00:59:15,689
has great podcast support UI
that helps is the future for the

1016
00:59:15,689 --> 00:59:19,199
show. It is in my commute
perfectly fits the show

1017
00:59:19,199 --> 00:59:20,939
schedule. I'm now back.

1018
00:59:20,970 --> 00:59:23,580
I'd like to know what that
means. Tell me what you think is

1019
00:59:23,580 --> 00:59:25,410
great podcast support in your
vehicle. I'd

1020
00:59:25,410 --> 00:59:26,100
really like to know.

1021
00:59:27,060 --> 00:59:29,550
Yeah, it's got to be more than
just a USB plug.

1022
00:59:29,580 --> 00:59:32,880
No, no, I'm sure it's Bluetooth.
And if see for instance in my

1023
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:36,330
truck. I can connect to
Bluetooth but it doesn't pass on

1024
00:59:36,330 --> 00:59:40,320
the album art or the title just
gives like the file name. It's

1025
00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:43,080
really some lame. Yeah, some do.
Mine doesn't.

1026
00:59:44,430 --> 00:59:51,180
What brand Ford Ford bastards.

1027
00:59:51,509 --> 00:59:53,579
I know it's unAmerican Ford.

1028
00:59:56,370 --> 00:59:59,130
And now back to last three shows
have been outstanding and is

1029
00:59:59,130 --> 01:00:03,240
clear you Muppets have gotten
the hang of this while I've been

1030
01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:08,160
away keep up the tireless and
appreciated worse work no

1031
01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:09,630
jingles no karma Thank you

1032
01:00:09,630 --> 01:00:12,330
very much sir. What do you
enjoy? Welcome back mofo.

1033
01:00:12,959 --> 01:00:18,509
And following Woody is Kelly
Sandlin $300 from the US

1034
01:00:18,509 --> 01:00:23,699
somewhere and all he or she
says, says she I'm sure with an

1035
01:00:23,699 --> 01:00:28,079
eye and I think so. Isn't it? No
jingles no karma. Okay. Well,

1036
01:00:28,079 --> 01:00:32,039
there you go. Thank you very
much number. Yes. doesn't last

1037
01:00:32,039 --> 01:00:36,659
long sir Kelly spunk Berg in
Rocky Mountain House, Alberta,

1038
01:00:36,659 --> 01:00:41,939
Canada. $300. Another $300 Happy
Birthday karma for Dame Andrea

1039
01:00:41,939 --> 01:00:45,509
Spangenberg. I think she's on
the list here is vacation karma

1040
01:00:45,509 --> 01:00:49,919
for Sir Dallas Bong Berg and
dementia is great newsletter was

1041
01:00:49,919 --> 01:00:51,089
a great newsletter.

1042
01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:54,090
It was a great newsletter the
newsletters are always great.

1043
01:00:55,230 --> 01:00:58,350
Subscribe to those go to no
agenda show.com The link is

1044
01:00:58,350 --> 01:01:03,660
right there on the homepage.
You've got karma thank you sir

1045
01:01:03,660 --> 01:01:07,230
Kelly sponsor will be
congratulating damning Dame

1046
01:01:07,230 --> 01:01:08,160
Andrea later on.

1047
01:01:08,670 --> 01:01:12,090
And then last but not least is
Timothy Kato is Associate

1048
01:01:12,090 --> 01:01:17,010
Executive Producer at $200. And,
again, don't have the location

1049
01:01:17,010 --> 01:01:21,750
but he's using cutesy animals to
solicit donations is just low,

1050
01:01:21,900 --> 01:01:25,650
effective, as evidenced by the
donation by this donation but

1051
01:01:25,650 --> 01:01:30,210
low. Now this is interesting. He
says he's obviously fairly new

1052
01:01:30,210 --> 01:01:33,840
to the show. Yeah, I think so.
As you recall, I was using

1053
01:01:34,620 --> 01:01:37,470
six, seven years ago. Yeah. But

1054
01:01:37,470 --> 01:01:40,710
I was using him shut, you know,
newsletter after newsletter

1055
01:01:40,710 --> 01:01:44,610
after newsletter was terrible.
Yeah. And so now I just dropped

1056
01:01:44,610 --> 01:01:47,970
one little kitten in I guess
bent out of shape.

1057
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:50,160
Well, I think the problem is you
brought the puppy back and the

1058
01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:52,470
puppy is kind of irresistible.
You know, when you

1059
01:01:52,470 --> 01:01:55,470
see the puppy dog is symbol that
we are not doing

1060
01:01:55,470 --> 01:01:58,710
well. And yes, and yeah, that's
true. And the puppy was there

1061
01:01:58,710 --> 01:02:00,690
for months and months and
months.

1062
01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:03,480
Yeah, well, he's back. And this
is,

1063
01:02:04,020 --> 01:02:07,950
you know, John Han, I do the
production John handles all the

1064
01:02:07,950 --> 01:02:12,330
back office stuff and as his
minions. So I never I'd never

1065
01:02:12,330 --> 01:02:15,750
really looked at this stuff. And
when when I see the dog, I'm

1066
01:02:15,750 --> 01:02:17,820
like, oh, things are not going
too well.

1067
01:02:19,110 --> 01:02:24,690
That one particular dog. Yeah.
Yeah. sad puppy. sad puppy.

1068
01:02:25,230 --> 01:02:28,410
Divorce. But in all seriousness,
keep up the good work. And I

1069
01:02:28,410 --> 01:02:31,680
have a raven report to the stage
and some goat karma.

1070
01:02:34,260 --> 01:02:43,050
Great from receita here she is
brave. You've got karma.

1071
01:02:44,100 --> 01:02:45,000
I will be done.

1072
01:02:46,140 --> 01:02:50,820
Now ravens from receita. That's
it. That's all we got for our

1073
01:02:50,820 --> 01:02:53,880
social associating executive
producers for today's show at

1074
01:02:53,880 --> 01:02:57,510
1028. Hopefully we'll pick it up
a little bit. Next show it was a

1075
01:02:57,510 --> 01:03:00,780
little low. A little light a
little light? Well, April's

1076
01:03:01,890 --> 01:03:02,490
still tax

1077
01:03:02,490 --> 01:03:06,210
plasmonics. Yeah, I think so.
But I don't I don't see anyone

1078
01:03:06,210 --> 01:03:10,530
who says I got a return. Yet
just looking at the just looking

1079
01:03:10,530 --> 01:03:14,370
at the spreadsheet. Well, we of
course want to thank our

1080
01:03:14,370 --> 01:03:16,860
executive producers and
Associate Executive. Is it one

1081
01:03:16,860 --> 01:03:20,400
producer? Yes. And when but
especially Yes. And one

1082
01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:22,410
Associate Executive Producer
real credits that can be used

1083
01:03:22,410 --> 01:03:24,870
anywhere that credits are
recognized. Lots of people put

1084
01:03:24,870 --> 01:03:27,570
it on LinkedIn and seems to get
them jobs and lots of people

1085
01:03:27,570 --> 01:03:29,730
looking at what's going on.
We'll be thinking more people.

1086
01:03:30,090 --> 01:03:33,330
In our second segment $50 and
above and we have another show

1087
01:03:33,330 --> 01:03:36,000
on Sunday. Please remember us at

1088
01:03:36,029 --> 01:03:39,389
VO rec.org/and a

1089
01:03:39,420 --> 01:03:42,510
plenty of formula for you to go
out there and propagate. You

1090
01:03:42,510 --> 01:03:48,300
know the system. Our formula is
this. We go out for yet people

1091
01:03:48,300 --> 01:04:10,290
in the mouth all right, lots of
show then today. Yeah, I was

1092
01:04:10,290 --> 01:04:12,060
gonna do some face back stuff.

1093
01:04:12,660 --> 01:04:14,070
Oh, yeah. Let's do face back.

1094
01:04:14,100 --> 01:04:20,970
So there's I've two, two
interviews. One is they will

1095
01:04:20,970 --> 01:04:25,260
start with this Monika bickert
She is the VP of global policy

1096
01:04:25,260 --> 01:04:29,070
management at the face bag.
What's interesting about her is

1097
01:04:29,070 --> 01:04:32,160
that for 10 years, she worked in
Malaysia at the State

1098
01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:39,240
Department. And, and I think she
did things like you know,

1099
01:04:39,270 --> 01:04:44,220
looking at smuggling, also human
trafficking, but 10 years in

1100
01:04:44,220 --> 01:04:47,280
Malaysia at the at the embassy.

1101
01:04:48,810 --> 01:04:52,890
You may be a spook. Yeah,

1102
01:04:52,920 --> 01:04:54,180
you may be a spook, and by

1103
01:04:54,180 --> 01:04:57,990
the way, Malaysia is a party
town. Hey, whoa.

1104
01:04:58,890 --> 01:05:01,320
So now she's the The Vice
President global policy

1105
01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:05,400
management, and she sat down for
an interview, I think this was,

1106
01:05:05,550 --> 01:05:08,250
it was a podcast, actually. But
I thought it was just

1107
01:05:08,250 --> 01:05:10,560
interesting to listen to a few
of the things that she had on

1108
01:05:10,560 --> 01:05:16,410
her mind. Because now, you
probably noticed, it was

1109
01:05:16,650 --> 01:05:19,830
interesting to me to see a lot
of no agenda producers who

1110
01:05:19,830 --> 01:05:23,940
didn't understand why yesterday
and the day before yesterday,

1111
01:05:24,300 --> 01:05:29,370
all the wonderful services they
use online, such as face bag,

1112
01:05:29,370 --> 01:05:35,070
Twitter, you name it had a new
disclaimer, or they something

1113
01:05:35,070 --> 01:05:38,610
pop up about their terms and
services we've changed? Well,

1114
01:05:38,610 --> 01:05:42,420
that's because the GD RP, the
general data protection

1115
01:05:42,450 --> 01:05:46,620
regulations in the EU's came
into effect yesterday. So that's

1116
01:05:46,620 --> 01:05:49,680
why they were doing that. And
now face bag apparently, I

1117
01:05:49,680 --> 01:05:53,940
haven't seen it yet. If at least
it hasn't surfaced in my version

1118
01:05:53,940 --> 01:05:58,470
yet, has posted an explanation
of their Terms of Services. So

1119
01:05:58,470 --> 01:06:01,050
not just saying, you know,
here's the parameters. Now,

1120
01:06:01,050 --> 01:06:03,330
here's exactly what we mean.

1121
01:06:03,360 --> 01:06:05,970
These are our community
standards, which basically tell

1122
01:06:05,970 --> 01:06:08,550
people, if you're coming to
Facebook, here's what you can

1123
01:06:08,550 --> 01:06:11,100
post. And here's what you could
not post, here's what we will

1124
01:06:11,100 --> 01:06:14,220
remove, if we become aware of
it, I want to be clear that the

1125
01:06:14,220 --> 01:06:17,580
policies themselves are not
changing today, the way we

1126
01:06:17,580 --> 01:06:20,550
enforce them is not changing
today, what is changing is that

1127
01:06:20,550 --> 01:06:25,110
we're finally making public all
of the guidance that we give our

1128
01:06:25,110 --> 01:06:29,010
content reviewers when they
enforce these policies. So just

1129
01:06:29,040 --> 01:06:33,120
just to sort of give an example,
we have for many years had

1130
01:06:33,120 --> 01:06:38,160
public facing policies that say,
Don't harass somebody don't post

1131
01:06:38,250 --> 01:06:41,610
threats of violence. Now, when
you go to our standards online,

1132
01:06:41,610 --> 01:06:44,370
you'll be able to see what do we
mean when we say harassment? Or

1133
01:06:44,370 --> 01:06:46,380
what do we say threats of
violence? And how do our

1134
01:06:46,410 --> 01:06:48,360
reviewers actually enforce these
policies?

1135
01:06:48,930 --> 01:06:51,690
So basically, you're defining
something that has been on the

1136
01:06:51,690 --> 01:06:53,700
back end for Paolo

1137
01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:58,380
gear. So I came, I was at the US
Justice Department for about a

1138
01:06:58,380 --> 01:06:59,940
decade before I came to
Facebook.

1139
01:06:59,970 --> 01:07:03,660
Oh, yeah, she was in issues from
the Justice Department in the

1140
01:07:03,660 --> 01:07:04,320
embassy.

1141
01:07:05,970 --> 01:07:08,730
When I came to Facebook, that
was about six and a half years

1142
01:07:08,730 --> 01:07:13,440
ago, we were just starting to
put in place more detailed

1143
01:07:13,440 --> 01:07:16,680
guidance for our reviewers. And
they've used that guidance over

1144
01:07:16,680 --> 01:07:20,490
the past five or six years. And
we've continued to add to it.

1145
01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:22,620
And one of the reasons is
because we're always seeing new

1146
01:07:22,620 --> 01:07:25,890
trends, new types of abusive
behavior, and we want to make

1147
01:07:25,890 --> 01:07:27,750
sure that we're providing
guidance on it. So every two,

1148
01:07:27,780 --> 01:07:32,130
how many types of abusive
behavior are there? If there's

1149
01:07:32,130 --> 01:07:35,400
new trends, what's the new trend
and abusive? John, what's the

1150
01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:37,080
latest in abusive behavior?

1151
01:07:38,220 --> 01:07:41,310
You got me that's kind of I
don't use Facebook

1152
01:07:41,580 --> 01:07:45,330
weeks, we have a conversation
with people inside the company.

1153
01:07:45,330 --> 01:07:46,500
What did she say, Oh, let

1154
01:07:46,500 --> 01:07:47,280
me just go back here.

1155
01:07:47,310 --> 01:07:49,380
So the abusive behavior, and we
want to make sure that we're

1156
01:07:49,380 --> 01:07:51,990
providing guidance on it. So
every two weeks, we have a

1157
01:07:51,990 --> 01:07:55,110
conversation with people inside
the company and outside the

1158
01:07:55,110 --> 01:07:57,750
company, to talk about ways that
we need to refine these

1159
01:07:57,750 --> 01:07:58,110
standards.

1160
01:07:58,140 --> 01:08:02,280
If you're, if you're bored, just
say, Don't be making noise. I'm

1161
01:08:02,280 --> 01:08:07,920
not making any noise or making
noise. No. I apologize. Where

1162
01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:11,610
did that come from? I have no
idea. But whoever's making that

1163
01:08:11,610 --> 01:08:15,750
noise, stop doing it. It's
annoying. Alright, so every two

1164
01:08:16,200 --> 01:08:19,770
weeks, they have to sit down and
review the latest trends in

1165
01:08:19,770 --> 01:08:22,980
abusive behavior. It comes down
to a term though part of that

1166
01:08:22,979 --> 01:08:26,219
doesn't make sense. What doesn't
make sense.

1167
01:08:27,240 --> 01:08:29,940
Every two weeks abusive
behavior, the style of it

1168
01:08:29,940 --> 01:08:30,570
changes.

1169
01:08:30,570 --> 01:08:33,450
So I also don't, I think she's
full of crap. But that's why

1170
01:08:33,480 --> 01:08:34,500
we're going through this

1171
01:08:36,150 --> 01:08:39,180
is is very difficult for you
because of the degree to which

1172
01:08:39,180 --> 01:08:42,180
so many of these things can be
ascribed to something that is

1173
01:08:42,180 --> 01:08:44,130
referred to in your in your own.

1174
01:08:44,399 --> 01:08:46,769
I mean, what we're really
hearing here, someone trying to

1175
01:08:46,769 --> 01:08:50,219
describe what speech is
acceptable and what speech is

1176
01:08:50,219 --> 01:08:53,369
not acceptable. That's the
bottom line here. And what she

1177
01:08:53,369 --> 01:08:57,929
does has no bearing on our First
Amendment rights in the Gitmo

1178
01:08:57,929 --> 01:09:01,409
nation. But it is interesting
just to get into the mind of the

1179
01:09:01,409 --> 01:09:02,399
globalist thinking

1180
01:09:02,429 --> 01:09:04,649
documents as emotional injury,

1181
01:09:04,679 --> 01:09:07,349
there you go. emotional injury.
That's what we're talking about

1182
01:09:07,349 --> 01:09:07,649
here.

1183
01:09:07,889 --> 01:09:11,309
How do you define an emotional
injury? What does that look

1184
01:09:11,309 --> 01:09:13,619
like? Because there are lots of
people who could raise their

1185
01:09:13,619 --> 01:09:16,769
hand and basically say, this
argument that I disagree with

1186
01:09:16,799 --> 01:09:18,329
constitutes an emotional injury.

1187
01:09:18,599 --> 01:09:22,289
Absolutely. And we want to make
sure that we are not shallowly

1188
01:09:22,529 --> 01:09:25,469
taking down speech simply
because some people find it

1189
01:09:25,469 --> 01:09:28,019
upsetting. In fact, we say in
our standards, you may find

1190
01:09:28,019 --> 01:09:30,749
speech on Facebook, that makes
you feel uncomfortable, or that

1191
01:09:30,749 --> 01:09:34,499
makes you upset. From our point
of view, that is okay. So long

1192
01:09:34,499 --> 01:09:38,549
as we give people the tools they
need to not follow that person,

1193
01:09:38,549 --> 01:09:41,309
they can book that person or
they can unfollow that page. We

1194
01:09:41,309 --> 01:09:44,159
want to create a space for
speech, even if it's

1195
01:09:44,159 --> 01:09:46,589
controversial, where we draw the
line very

1196
01:09:47,280 --> 01:09:50,910
fast. Well, if you listen to her
cadence, she's talking like zaqy

1197
01:09:51,630 --> 01:09:55,350
Listen to it. She talks you get
into tools and stuff, you'll

1198
01:09:55,350 --> 01:09:55,530
hear

1199
01:09:55,530 --> 01:09:58,620
it actual safety implications or
where there are legal

1200
01:09:58,620 --> 01:10:01,290
consequences to leaving the
speech. I'd say that I'll tell

1201
01:10:01,290 --> 01:10:03,210
you this is something I've
wanted to do for years. And the

1202
01:10:03,210 --> 01:10:05,580
biggest reason I've wanted to do
it is because I do so much

1203
01:10:05,580 --> 01:10:07,980
external engagement, like the
conversation that we're having

1204
01:10:07,980 --> 01:10:08,400
right now.

1205
01:10:09,870 --> 01:10:11,760
Like the conversation we're
having. This is like she's

1206
01:10:11,760 --> 01:10:12,810
talking like the zaqy.

1207
01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:14,850
Yeah, I think you might be
right. It's just like, so

1208
01:10:14,850 --> 01:10:17,730
sometimes it just speeds up to
such an extreme. It's like the

1209
01:10:17,760 --> 01:10:20,460
little bit idea at the
beginning. Yeah, that is

1210
01:10:20,490 --> 01:10:22,050
extremely weird. She

1211
01:10:22,050 --> 01:10:25,050
may be on Adderall or something
that's possible. But she

1212
01:10:25,080 --> 01:10:28,500
she's also know that if she's a
spook, which is what you know,

1213
01:10:29,130 --> 01:10:30,810
she can now that she's not on
Adderall.

1214
01:10:31,950 --> 01:10:32,940
She might be drunk.

1215
01:10:34,680 --> 01:10:36,450
spooks drink drugs.

1216
01:10:37,950 --> 01:10:40,260
But yeah, here's and the biggest
reason I have wanted to do it is

1217
01:10:40,260 --> 01:10:42,750
because I do so much external
engagement, like the

1218
01:10:42,750 --> 01:10:43,980
conversation that we're having
right now

1219
01:10:44,010 --> 01:10:47,550
is all Judy about it. Like
external engagement, you mean,

1220
01:10:47,610 --> 01:10:48,150
PR?

1221
01:10:48,900 --> 01:10:53,190
And when I do that, I hear from
people. Why don't you make these

1222
01:10:53,190 --> 01:10:56,250
standards? People will ask me,
you say you don't allow hate

1223
01:10:56,250 --> 01:10:58,620
speech. What is that? And
they'll say, Well, here's how we

1224
01:10:58,620 --> 01:11:00,630
think about that. And then
they'll say, Well, why don't you

1225
01:11:00,630 --> 01:11:04,650
just say that? So that that I
think has been behind us doing

1226
01:11:04,650 --> 01:11:06,750
this. And we've been working on
this now for the better part of

1227
01:11:06,750 --> 01:11:07,170
a year.

1228
01:11:08,280 --> 01:11:10,530
better part of a year. Oh, so
Gee,

1229
01:11:11,040 --> 01:11:12,480
she's been doing it for 10
years,

1230
01:11:12,480 --> 01:11:16,440
six years, six years? No, so
that's bullcrap. But we also now

1231
01:11:16,440 --> 01:11:21,060
know that it's 7500 people has
nothing to do with algos, it is

1232
01:11:21,060 --> 01:11:23,580
just human beings who are doing
this,

1233
01:11:23,610 --> 01:11:26,610
is this something where you have
an actual employee making a

1234
01:11:26,610 --> 01:11:29,520
determination about a piece of
content? And whether it's okay

1235
01:11:29,520 --> 01:11:33,240
or not? Or is this something
that is, you know, essentially

1236
01:11:33,240 --> 01:11:35,550
operating on an algorithm or
something along those lines? No,

1237
01:11:35,550 --> 01:11:35,730
this

1238
01:11:35,730 --> 01:11:38,670
is people. This is people. So we
have a team called our community

1239
01:11:38,670 --> 01:11:42,060
operations team. Community ops
comm.

1240
01:11:42,930 --> 01:11:46,470
You know, first of all, this is
this is the complete opposite of

1241
01:11:46,500 --> 01:11:51,390
what you get this from a
podcast. This is completely

1242
01:11:51,390 --> 01:11:54,630
opposite of what they had on the
PBS NewsHour, where they did the

1243
01:11:54,630 --> 01:11:57,030
same thing. I don't know why.
But this is an all the news

1244
01:11:57,150 --> 01:12:00,780
podcast, it's on national news.
It's on PBS. So they had they

1245
01:12:00,780 --> 01:12:03,600
had visited the Facebook
operation. The big the big one

1246
01:12:03,600 --> 01:12:07,680
in Menlo Park is like two miles
long. It's a big building. And

1247
01:12:08,670 --> 01:12:11,730
they said that they couldn't do
what she's describing. So they

1248
01:12:11,730 --> 01:12:15,930
had to move to algos. Ha, you
don't have a Facebook

1249
01:12:15,930 --> 01:12:16,860
spokesperson,

1250
01:12:16,860 --> 01:12:18,150
do you have a clip by any
chance?

1251
01:12:18,360 --> 01:12:23,190
No, I it was boring, right?
Well, she's telling you,

1252
01:12:24,240 --> 01:12:25,500
I take your word for it.

1253
01:12:25,530 --> 01:12:28,800
While it's building. I do have a
clip that follows it up. Because

1254
01:12:28,800 --> 01:12:31,440
it turns out that PBS is going
to develop algos too.

1255
01:12:31,469 --> 01:12:33,809
Yeah, well, we'll get to that
we'll get to that one step at a

1256
01:12:33,809 --> 01:12:33,989
time

1257
01:12:34,019 --> 01:12:36,119
essentially operating on an
algorithm or something along

1258
01:12:36,119 --> 01:12:36,569
those lines.

1259
01:12:36,600 --> 01:12:39,150
No, this is people. This is
people. So we have a team,

1260
01:12:39,990 --> 01:12:42,600
operations team. They are at
this point you hear

1261
01:12:42,600 --> 01:12:44,400
that community operations
community

1262
01:12:44,400 --> 01:12:48,690
ops cops, get it get as cute as

1263
01:12:48,690 --> 01:12:51,720
people. So we have a team called
our community operations team.

1264
01:12:52,050 --> 01:12:55,170
They are at this point more than
7500 Community operations

1265
01:12:55,170 --> 01:12:57,360
team is cots, as in beds

1266
01:12:59,100 --> 01:13:01,260
around the world, and they are
the people who are enforcing

1267
01:13:01,260 --> 01:13:05,130
these standards and content
potential content violations

1268
01:13:05,130 --> 01:13:08,730
come to them in one of two ways.
Either somebody on Facebook has

1269
01:13:08,730 --> 01:13:11,220
reported it through the site and
you can report any piece of

1270
01:13:11,220 --> 01:13:13,890
content through the site of a
photo a post a group a page,

1271
01:13:14,130 --> 01:13:18,030
it'll come into our our content
reviewers, then we also use some

1272
01:13:18,030 --> 01:13:21,990
technical tools to try to
identify violations even before

1273
01:13:21,990 --> 01:13:23,940
anybody in our community has
told us about it. So for

1274
01:13:23,940 --> 01:13:27,330
instance, terror property, ISIS
beheading told, we now

1275
01:13:27,690 --> 01:13:32,550
say what you said told told us
about it. I'm here,

1276
01:13:32,760 --> 01:13:35,940
I violations even before anybody
in our community has told us

1277
01:13:35,940 --> 01:13:36,720
about it so free.

1278
01:13:36,840 --> 01:13:39,900
Yeah, well, so for instance, but
if you listen here, for

1279
01:13:39,900 --> 01:13:40,980
instance, terror

1280
01:13:40,980 --> 01:13:44,070
propaganda, ISIS beheading
videos, we now have some

1281
01:13:44,070 --> 01:13:46,860
technical tools that are pretty
good at finding that content and

1282
01:13:46,860 --> 01:13:48,660
getting that to our content
reviewers quickly.

1283
01:13:48,660 --> 01:13:52,020
That's all they have so far is
they're able to find beheading

1284
01:13:52,020 --> 01:13:55,650
videos, which aren't even online
anymore. No, hey, they

1285
01:13:55,650 --> 01:13:58,200
can find a lot more. Let me
interject just for a second.

1286
01:13:58,890 --> 01:14:03,030
When I was at the meetup in
Biloxi, yeah, one of our

1287
01:14:03,030 --> 01:14:07,290
producers had reposted a picture
I put in the newsletter, which I

1288
01:14:07,290 --> 01:14:10,200
forgot even put in the
newsletter. But two or three

1289
01:14:10,200 --> 01:14:14,790
newsletters ago of Trump having
sex with stormy Daniels. Yeah,

1290
01:14:15,690 --> 01:14:18,780
of course it was photoshopped.
And I didn't you know, it was a

1291
01:14:18,780 --> 01:14:22,260
quickie job is to have a limit
on my Photoshop. You actually

1292
01:14:22,260 --> 01:14:26,850
did that. Yeah. Oh, funny. And
most of the time is spent

1293
01:14:26,880 --> 01:14:29,820
blending and get making sure
that the tones are the same. It

1294
01:14:29,820 --> 01:14:33,150
was a horrible photoshop job.
Yes, it was fun. But it was fun.

1295
01:14:33,150 --> 01:14:33,930
15 minutes

1296
01:14:33,930 --> 01:14:38,070
max limit because I don't want
to make I couldn't get it look

1297
01:14:38,070 --> 01:14:40,800
any better. So yeah, it wasn't
horrible for it. It looked like

1298
01:14:40,800 --> 01:14:44,220
Photoshop but it was funny. And
then I also blacked out. I

1299
01:14:44,220 --> 01:14:46,710
didn't blog about it fuzzed out
all the parts that would be

1300
01:14:46,740 --> 01:14:53,850
obscene. Yes. And so it was
legit Photoshop junk Photoshop

1301
01:14:53,850 --> 01:15:00,450
picture. And so he posted on his
Facebook he got he got kicked

1302
01:15:00,450 --> 01:15:02,070
off Facebook for 24 hours.

1303
01:15:05,910 --> 01:15:08,760
Well, and that's very
interesting, because she is

1304
01:15:08,760 --> 01:15:14,820
going to get into exactly who.
So what from what I understand

1305
01:15:14,820 --> 01:15:19,020
in this next clip, kind of think
unpacks it is if you say, Well,

1306
01:15:19,020 --> 01:15:23,250
I don't like Republicans, that's
okay. If you say, or you say, I

1307
01:15:23,250 --> 01:15:25,980
hate Republicans, all
Republicans should be dead,

1308
01:15:25,980 --> 01:15:28,770
that's okay. That's what she's
gonna claim. But if you say, I

1309
01:15:28,770 --> 01:15:31,560
want this Republican to be dead,
or if you take it to any

1310
01:15:31,860 --> 01:15:35,880
personal, one individual, then
it's not okay. But there's

1311
01:15:35,880 --> 01:15:38,940
always classes that are
protected and unprotected in our

1312
01:15:38,940 --> 01:15:40,950
world. Wait until you hear we do
treat

1313
01:15:40,950 --> 01:15:44,730
public officials and public
figures different differently

1314
01:15:44,730 --> 01:15:46,350
than we treat private
individuals. So

1315
01:15:46,560 --> 01:15:49,770
I, of course, this during this
journey didn't ask what

1316
01:15:49,770 --> 01:15:55,140
constitutes a public official or
a celebrity? I mean, how many

1317
01:15:55,140 --> 01:15:58,740
views do you need to have before
you're a public person? Isn't

1318
01:15:58,740 --> 01:16:02,490
everybody on face bag? By
definition, a public person?

1319
01:16:03,900 --> 01:16:04,890
That's what I'd say.

1320
01:16:05,429 --> 01:16:09,119
If you know, I'm a public
figure, because I do so much

1321
01:16:09,149 --> 01:16:10,079
engagement for Facebook

1322
01:16:10,320 --> 01:16:14,610
engagement. No, no, I'm sick and
tired of this end gate public

1323
01:16:14,610 --> 01:16:17,610
engagement. Your shilling is
what the

1324
01:16:17,610 --> 01:16:20,100
call my role. So if people want
to say that these community

1325
01:16:20,100 --> 01:16:22,230
standards are terrible, that I'm
to blame, they can say that on

1326
01:16:22,230 --> 01:16:26,220
Facebook, and they criticize me
all they want. Versus if

1327
01:16:26,220 --> 01:16:29,670
somebody was saying that about
their high school classmates or,

1328
01:16:30,240 --> 01:16:35,220
or insulting somebody, you know,
a personal friend, then that's

1329
01:16:35,220 --> 01:16:37,260
something that we might consider
bullying and takedown. And you

1330
01:16:37,260 --> 01:16:39,660
can see how we define those
things internally, when it comes

1331
01:16:39,660 --> 01:16:43,890
to violence, Nightmare threats
against anybody, even if it's

1332
01:16:43,890 --> 01:16:47,940
public figures. And in fact, as
we're trying to assess the

1333
01:16:47,940 --> 01:16:50,760
credibility of threats, because
people do sometimes use threats

1334
01:16:50,760 --> 01:16:53,040
in a joking way, you know, if
you come late to my party again,

1335
01:16:53,040 --> 01:16:55,620
I'm gonna, I'm gonna kill you.
We don't want to remove that if

1336
01:16:55,620 --> 01:16:59,340
it's just a joke. We do want to
remove speech that we think

1337
01:16:59,940 --> 01:17:02,040
might legitimately cause harm to
somebody.

1338
01:17:02,160 --> 01:17:04,830
This is very interesting,
because how do you know it's a

1339
01:17:04,830 --> 01:17:08,250
joke? I mean, how do you have
the context? To understand what

1340
01:17:08,250 --> 01:17:10,920
a joke is, which I'm sure an
algo definitely can't figure

1341
01:17:10,920 --> 01:17:14,850
out. So you know, it's like, was
Kathy Griffin therefore a joke?

1342
01:17:14,850 --> 01:17:17,400
Or was it not a joke she
intended as a joke? She said it

1343
01:17:17,400 --> 01:17:21,600
was a joke. Yet, you said, Well,
we treat her differently. I

1344
01:17:21,600 --> 01:17:23,850
know, it's impossible to do, or

1345
01:17:24,960 --> 01:17:27,960
like threatening notes, and
whatever you do, just at the

1346
01:17:27,960 --> 01:17:33,510
very end of everything, put I
kid I kid, JK, JK. So

1347
01:17:33,630 --> 01:17:37,050
for journalists, and you'll see
this in our standards, we see so

1348
01:17:37,050 --> 01:17:40,170
many safety threats to
journalists, that we actually

1349
01:17:40,170 --> 01:17:43,800
assume credibility unless it's
very clear that something is,

1350
01:17:44,100 --> 01:17:48,450
so if you're a journalist, and
someone says, like, I'm going to

1351
01:17:48,450 --> 01:17:53,160
kill you, and they say, even JK,
they're probably going to block

1352
01:17:53,160 --> 01:17:56,970
that, that comment. Unless
they're somehow really sure it's

1353
01:17:56,970 --> 01:17:57,510
a joke

1354
01:17:57,570 --> 01:18:00,420
that we actually assume
credibility and loss, it's very

1355
01:18:00,420 --> 01:18:05,130
clear that something is a joke
and not serious, we assume that

1356
01:18:05,190 --> 01:18:07,710
any threatening language against
a journalist is credible, and we

1357
01:18:07,710 --> 01:18:11,700
remove it. I will say that we
audit those reviewers for

1358
01:18:11,700 --> 01:18:15,810
quality every week, every week,
each reviewer. And each area of

1359
01:18:15,810 --> 01:18:21,750
policy is subject to a quality
audit, where we review a subset

1360
01:18:22,110 --> 01:18:23,430
of the content that they
referred to make

1361
01:18:23,520 --> 01:18:27,060
a stop. I knew you'd ask
yourself, how many did they

1362
01:18:27,060 --> 01:18:31,740
have? 75,000. It's only 500.
Okay, that's 75, which is a big

1363
01:18:31,740 --> 01:18:36,630
number. So they have 7500 that
they review every week, who

1364
01:18:36,630 --> 01:18:39,960
reviews and it takes 7500 people
to review the 75?

1365
01:18:39,990 --> 01:18:43,320
Well, what she's saying is that
we review people in the subset

1366
01:18:43,320 --> 01:18:46,950
of the subset of the under re
review. So it's it's I'm sure

1367
01:18:46,950 --> 01:18:47,760
it's bullshit.

1368
01:18:48,240 --> 01:18:51,870
Those reviewers quality every
week, every week, each reviewer

1369
01:18:52,530 --> 01:18:56,430
and each area of policy is
subjected to a quality audit

1370
01:18:56,430 --> 01:19:01,680
where we review a subset of the
content to make sure they're,

1371
01:19:02,490 --> 01:19:04,590
they're getting the decisions,
right. But we know that we're

1372
01:19:04,590 --> 01:19:06,600
still going to have mistakes,
and not every piece of content

1373
01:19:06,600 --> 01:19:07,020
was

1374
01:19:07,830 --> 01:19:11,670
right about now, it would be
ideal. If it was kind of like a

1375
01:19:11,670 --> 01:19:14,850
Woody Allen movie in Psalm a two
guys in white coats, we come

1376
01:19:14,850 --> 01:19:21,750
running in with a big flight
chasing her around. She sounds

1377
01:19:21,750 --> 01:19:23,190
like she's nuts.

1378
01:19:23,580 --> 01:19:26,700
Now she goes into full zaqy
mode. And this last 15 seconds

1379
01:19:26,700 --> 01:19:28,530
the content that they reviewed
to make sure they're there.

1380
01:19:29,340 --> 01:19:31,440
They're getting the decisions,
right? But we know that we're

1381
01:19:31,440 --> 01:19:33,480
still going to have mistakes,
and not every piece of content

1382
01:19:33,480 --> 01:19:35,820
is going to be in that subset
that we review. And that's why

1383
01:19:35,820 --> 01:19:39,120
today we're actually announcing
that we will allow people to

1384
01:19:39,120 --> 01:19:42,960
appeal decisions that we've made
about individual pieces of

1385
01:19:42,960 --> 01:19:46,290
content. So now there is a post
and he said we got it wrong. You

1386
01:19:46,290 --> 01:19:47,970
can tell us and we'll have
somebody else look at it.

1387
01:19:48,000 --> 01:19:52,200
This will be the downfall of
this whole idea lady that Google

1388
01:19:52,200 --> 01:19:55,110
has that one right you're gone
You're gone no discussion.

1389
01:19:55,140 --> 01:19:59,190
They're gonna allow people to
appeal. Ah, you're inviting

1390
01:19:59,190 --> 01:20:01,590
people to ban You You're
inviting it now?

1391
01:20:01,620 --> 01:20:04,290
Yes, you're inviting trouble.
The Google. You're right,

1392
01:20:04,290 --> 01:20:06,810
Google's got it right. You don't
have time for this crap.

1393
01:20:06,840 --> 01:20:09,300
No, because it's not just one
appeal. It's gonna go back and

1394
01:20:09,300 --> 01:20:11,700
forth, people are gonna get
pissed off at your answer to the

1395
01:20:11,700 --> 01:20:14,670
appeal. Everyone's going to pile
jump. Well, look, he's perfectly

1396
01:20:14,670 --> 01:20:18,210
here to appeal as good. As is
gonna go on and on and on. It's

1397
01:20:18,210 --> 01:20:22,020
not going to be pretty amazing
though they had like a was at

1398
01:20:22,020 --> 01:20:28,110
45% increase in profit. These
guys are fantastic. Just made a

1399
01:20:28,110 --> 01:20:32,460
huge bank. I should mention this
in the news media.

1400
01:20:34,050 --> 01:20:38,100
They could do worse than going
after these guys. They've got

1401
01:20:38,100 --> 01:20:41,160
to, they have to because their
business is as being

1402
01:20:41,160 --> 01:20:44,250
safe stocked up. Well. We'll get
to that in a moment with the CBS

1403
01:20:44,250 --> 01:20:48,180
60 minutes. But one last
important question that the

1404
01:20:48,180 --> 01:20:53,070
journal was so the lib Joe was
so embarrassed to ask he even

1405
01:20:53,070 --> 01:20:55,800
had to say, well, if I don't ask
my friends, while kale, may I

1406
01:20:55,800 --> 01:20:56,100
have to

1407
01:20:56,100 --> 01:20:58,470
ask you this just because it's
something that my friends will

1408
01:20:58,500 --> 01:21:01,770
get mad at me if I don't, which
is there was a whole episode of

1409
01:21:01,770 --> 01:21:05,970
reply all the podcast a couple
of months back, trying

1410
01:21:05,970 --> 01:21:09,000
desperately to convince people
that Facebook does not listen to

1411
01:21:09,000 --> 01:21:12,360
you through your microphone on
your phone. Can you just

1412
01:21:12,360 --> 01:21:13,590
answered that question?

1413
01:21:13,680 --> 01:21:15,390
Yeah, we're not we're not
listening to you and your

1414
01:21:15,390 --> 01:21:15,690
microphone.

1415
01:21:16,860 --> 01:21:19,710
It's just that you're it's just
that your algorithm is that good

1416
01:21:19,770 --> 01:21:22,200
to know that you needed that
Velveeta shells and cheese? It's

1417
01:21:22,200 --> 01:21:23,700
not it's not that we were
listening

1418
01:21:23,700 --> 01:21:24,390
to you talk about

1419
01:21:24,420 --> 01:21:26,940
there are ways anytime that you
see an ad on Facebook, you can

1420
01:21:26,940 --> 01:21:30,240
click on, you can click on it,
and you'll see something that

1421
01:21:30,240 --> 01:21:33,330
says Why am I seeing this ad?
Yes. And that will that will

1422
01:21:33,330 --> 01:21:35,070
give you some more information.
But no, we're not listening to

1423
01:21:35,070 --> 01:21:37,770
you. To all of Ben's friends.
Yes.

1424
01:21:37,770 --> 01:21:39,690
Monica Vickers is the head of
policy.

1425
01:21:40,560 --> 01:21:45,300
And my next bid here if she's
for what she said, Yeah, I'm

1426
01:21:45,300 --> 01:21:48,360
sure that's truthful. But I I've
been looking into this for a

1427
01:21:48,360 --> 01:21:51,540
while I've been trying to figure
out how this hysterical Miss

1428
01:21:51,570 --> 01:21:55,020
mystical connection keeps
getting made between something

1429
01:21:55,020 --> 01:21:59,730
people are saying and or what
has been discussed, and then all

1430
01:21:59,730 --> 01:22:00,570
of a sudden ads

1431
01:22:00,570 --> 01:22:03,000
show up. Yeah, I want to stop
you for a second.

1432
01:22:04,860 --> 01:22:07,980
For listeners out there didn't
hear the last show. And I

1433
01:22:08,280 --> 01:22:12,480
cognizant of this. And Adam is
semi cognizant of what he said.

1434
01:22:12,990 --> 01:22:16,620
But it's affecting him. What did
I switch is that his experience

1435
01:22:16,620 --> 01:22:20,610
with the little box where he
says called Tina, and you may

1436
01:22:20,610 --> 01:22:24,900
want to explain this, again,
somehow managed to call Tina,

1437
01:22:24,900 --> 01:22:28,440
even though there's no no real
information for this box. You're

1438
01:22:28,440 --> 01:22:33,540
talking about the the talking
tube, the echo. And I saw this

1439
01:22:33,540 --> 01:22:39,660
come in as a new feature. And I
just asked her to call Tina. And

1440
01:22:39,660 --> 01:22:42,870
immediately she said calling
Tina and the phone was ringing.

1441
01:22:43,320 --> 01:22:47,370
And so now the talking to was
functioning as a speakerphone.

1442
01:22:47,820 --> 01:22:52,320
And it knew which t now to call.
And with that with no no, no.

1443
01:22:52,320 --> 01:22:58,140
Change it No, no. Didn't ask me.
Which Tina. Of course, I've

1444
01:22:58,140 --> 01:23:01,620
shipped to her to a new job to
her at a different address. In

1445
01:23:01,620 --> 01:23:04,470
the past. It was presumptuous.
Remember what I shipped you,

1446
01:23:04,470 --> 01:23:07,440
baby. Yeah, it was very
presumptuous, but it worked.

1447
01:23:08,190 --> 01:23:12,150
Yes. And that that has that has.
I don't know that you're

1448
01:23:12,150 --> 01:23:15,270
cognizant of this and very know
for a fact that this has

1449
01:23:15,270 --> 01:23:16,890
affected your mentality?

1450
01:23:18,090 --> 01:23:22,740
Negatively? Yes, yes. Well, no,
my look. I mean, listen, hear me

1451
01:23:22,740 --> 01:23:26,730
now believe me later. I I'm OTG.
We're going to talk about my

1452
01:23:26,730 --> 01:23:29,580
latest experiences. But first,
let's get back to this because

1453
01:23:29,580 --> 01:23:34,800
there is something called
ultrasonic cross device

1454
01:23:34,800 --> 01:23:38,850
tracking, which is very
interesting. It comes from a

1455
01:23:38,850 --> 01:23:42,360
technology that I've I was
actually looking into years ago,

1456
01:23:42,480 --> 01:23:45,180
when I first got into ham radio
in November, if we talked about

1457
01:23:45,180 --> 01:23:48,540
on the show, I said, Wouldn't it
be cool if you could take Morse

1458
01:23:48,540 --> 01:23:52,560
code. And you could make that
ultrasonic like, you know, 1819

1459
01:23:52,560 --> 01:23:56,640
kilohertz range. And kids could
have little networks inside the

1460
01:23:56,640 --> 01:23:59,160
classroom without actually being
connected to a network because

1461
01:23:59,160 --> 01:24:01,800
the microphone would just pick
up this Sonic sound and I

1462
01:24:01,800 --> 01:24:05,040
experimented with it and some,
some ham guy I knew, you know,

1463
01:24:05,190 --> 01:24:10,320
put some stuff together. But
fast forward a few years the

1464
01:24:10,320 --> 01:24:15,900
company is called listener. Of
course you spell it lisn R, and

1465
01:24:15,900 --> 01:24:17,400
here's their promo video

1466
01:24:18,030 --> 01:24:20,760
listener is a communication
protocol, not unlike Bluetooth.

1467
01:24:21,120 --> 01:24:25,470
It's essentially an entirely new
way to connect devices. By

1468
01:24:25,500 --> 01:24:28,860
simply using sound, something
we've been loosely referring to

1469
01:24:28,860 --> 01:24:32,580
as a speaker net for the
Internet of sound. So our

1470
01:24:32,580 --> 01:24:35,520
technology that we build as
they're called Smart tones to

1471
01:24:35,520 --> 01:24:39,480
Sonic sound that is inaudible to
the human ear and to dogs

1472
01:24:39,480 --> 01:24:42,780
however, it can be picked up by
a mobile phone. The tones can be

1473
01:24:42,780 --> 01:24:47,430
embedded in any audio file, a
song commercial, played through

1474
01:24:47,430 --> 01:24:52,260
a stadium in your car. When
those tones are played. It can

1475
01:24:52,260 --> 01:24:55,710
connect to a device send you a
notification open a second

1476
01:24:55,710 --> 01:24:58,860
screen experience or even
delivery proximity based

1477
01:24:58,950 --> 01:25:01,920
marketing messages. One of the
things about listener that makes

1478
01:25:01,920 --> 01:25:06,480
us so special, I don't need a
battery, I don't need a wireless

1479
01:25:06,480 --> 01:25:11,910
connection, I don't need a cell
signal. Sound can go around all

1480
01:25:11,910 --> 01:25:14,700
of that. So when people are
spending millions and millions

1481
01:25:14,700 --> 01:25:18,060
of dollars outfitting their
stores with hardware that you

1482
01:25:18,060 --> 01:25:20,850
have to replace batteries
regularly, we do all of that

1483
01:25:20,880 --> 01:25:24,150
with no infrastructure, and no
wireless, no batteries, no

1484
01:25:24,330 --> 01:25:27,690
cellular signal. It's all
through the sound. And the good

1485
01:25:27,690 --> 01:25:30,990
news about listener is that
we're built into other people's

1486
01:25:30,990 --> 01:25:36,330
apps. Our goal is to be here, we
want to listen to but pretty

1487
01:25:36,330 --> 01:25:39,510
soon, we're going to be
manufactured into devices as

1488
01:25:39,510 --> 01:25:43,230
part of the hardware. So one of
the things that's been really

1489
01:25:43,230 --> 01:25:46,260
interesting about listenership
trajectory is that it's been

1490
01:25:46,710 --> 01:25:51,450
fast. And we just closed our
series B, that was actually led

1491
01:25:51,450 --> 01:25:55,080
by Intel, so Intel Capital,
largest, most successful

1492
01:25:55,080 --> 01:25:58,560
corporate VC in the world,
that's a huge stamp for us.

1493
01:25:59,490 --> 01:26:02,160
People click on our stuff,
because it's delivering you an

1494
01:26:02,160 --> 01:26:06,570
experience that's added, not
distracted or not annoying. And

1495
01:26:06,570 --> 01:26:09,870
that's a really powerful thing
for for brands that are in an

1496
01:26:09,870 --> 01:26:13,770
environment like trying to serve
up ads on Google or Gmail, or

1497
01:26:13,770 --> 01:26:18,570
Facebook or LinkedIn, there's so
much noise, that, frankly, it's

1498
01:26:18,570 --> 01:26:21,030
easy to stand out when we're
doing something that's designed

1499
01:26:21,030 --> 01:26:23,070
specifically to make that
experience better.

1500
01:26:23,340 --> 01:26:26,250
Okay. So I'm gonna tell you
about a couple applications of

1501
01:26:26,250 --> 01:26:30,480
this technology. The first one I
like a lot, which is a lot of

1502
01:26:30,480 --> 01:26:34,620
sports teams, or their clients.
And the sports teams will let

1503
01:26:34,620 --> 01:26:37,680
you download an app. It also
gets done at concerts, but I've

1504
01:26:37,680 --> 01:26:42,120
seen it done into sporting
events, and everything, they'll

1505
01:26:42,120 --> 01:26:45,300
say, Okay, everybody open up the
app and hold up your phone. And

1506
01:26:45,300 --> 01:26:50,250
then they will broadcast through
the PA system ultrasonic tones,

1507
01:26:50,250 --> 01:26:53,400
which I certainly can't hear but
most people can't hear. And then

1508
01:26:53,400 --> 01:26:57,570
the phone start flashing in
unison or they start coordinated

1509
01:26:57,930 --> 01:27:01,710
action because it's receiving
these tones. But on their on a

1510
01:27:01,710 --> 01:27:05,970
couple of websites have examples
of these tones embedded in the

1511
01:27:05,970 --> 01:27:12,360
Stephen Colbert show, in an NPR
podcast. And what what, what

1512
01:27:12,360 --> 01:27:17,070
happens is, you have your and
there's I think there were 250,

1513
01:27:17,100 --> 01:27:20,820
maybe a little tune in 30 apps
that had this technology in the

1514
01:27:20,820 --> 01:27:24,930
Play Store, an unknown number of
iOS apps had this technology

1515
01:27:24,930 --> 01:27:30,030
baked in. And as we heard, Intel
just invested in them. So maybe

1516
01:27:30,030 --> 01:27:32,940
that's something that goes into
the in some subsystem somewhere.

1517
01:27:33,510 --> 01:27:36,630
And if you're playing a game,
like oh, I don't know, Candy

1518
01:27:36,630 --> 01:27:39,720
Crush would be a good one to
take a look at. And you're

1519
01:27:39,720 --> 01:27:42,510
playing that on the couch, or
you have played it recently, or

1520
01:27:42,510 --> 01:27:46,200
it's open, or maybe can do it in
the background, these tones come

1521
01:27:46,200 --> 01:27:50,490
by, then hit your phone, your
phone hears it, it sends a

1522
01:27:50,490 --> 01:27:54,810
message back to the database.
And it says, Ah, this person

1523
01:27:54,810 --> 01:27:58,650
just heard this commercial. So
the next time you hit a face bag

1524
01:27:58,800 --> 01:28:02,490
enabled page, or some other page
where the same advertising

1525
01:28:02,490 --> 01:28:05,100
network is connected, you're
going to get that ad. And I

1526
01:28:05,100 --> 01:28:08,610
believe that what we're seeing a
lot of now is ads are playing on

1527
01:28:08,610 --> 01:28:13,260
the radio, they're playing on
television, I mean, these tones

1528
01:28:13,260 --> 01:28:16,830
can be embedded in a web page
with no video or audio, you can

1529
01:28:16,830 --> 01:28:19,110
be a hidden player, you won't
know it doesn't go click click

1530
01:28:19,110 --> 01:28:21,750
autoplay. And it's done. And you
can see it, I got a spectrum

1531
01:28:21,750 --> 01:28:25,260
analyzer. And you can see, you
see the tones just pop up.

1532
01:28:25,500 --> 01:28:27,810
Sometimes you hear a little
clicking. And that's audible to

1533
01:28:27,810 --> 01:28:28,740
the to the listener.

1534
01:28:29,099 --> 01:28:33,089
No wonder we all have 10
tinnitus. Oh, that's that's

1535
01:28:33,089 --> 01:28:33,389
another

1536
01:28:33,390 --> 01:28:36,810
point. It could definitely who
knows if it's harmful or not?

1537
01:28:37,110 --> 01:28:41,430
You don't know. But here's the
real problem when you're doing

1538
01:28:41,670 --> 01:28:45,300
so there was an exam, I looked
at a couple white hat sites when

1539
01:28:45,300 --> 01:28:49,230
you're let's say you're on tour
on your Tor browser, and you're

1540
01:28:49,230 --> 01:28:51,750
gonna go to some site and you
know, we and you want to be

1541
01:28:51,750 --> 01:28:55,320
completely anonymous, but you
have your phone nearby, then you

1542
01:28:55,320 --> 01:28:59,010
hit a page that may you may
think you're anonymous, but the

1543
01:28:59,010 --> 01:29:03,060
page admits this tone in the app
or wherever this embedded

1544
01:29:03,060 --> 01:29:06,570
technology is sitting will send
a message back and say, Oh, I

1545
01:29:06,570 --> 01:29:09,180
just received a tone. It's this
guy. It's his phone number.

1546
01:29:09,180 --> 01:29:12,150
Here's IMEI number, here's the
IP address, and all the stuff

1547
01:29:12,150 --> 01:29:14,760
your phone loves to give, or
whatever else that you need, the

1548
01:29:14,760 --> 01:29:18,090
phone is laying down the phone
is in his pocket, all of this

1549
01:29:18,090 --> 01:29:22,590
stuff. And that's called the
ultrasonic cross device

1550
01:29:22,590 --> 01:29:25,800
tracking. And I think that's
what we're seeing are a version

1551
01:29:25,800 --> 01:29:30,150
of it. Now, of course, the nasty
part of it. Just going back to

1552
01:29:30,150 --> 01:29:33,270
the talking tube, there's an app
that goes along with it's the

1553
01:29:33,270 --> 01:29:36,720
it's the Alexa app. And that's
where you can look at your

1554
01:29:36,720 --> 01:29:39,420
shopping list, etc. I don't know
what this app is doing. I mean,

1555
01:29:39,420 --> 01:29:42,120
I have no idea maybe it does
turn on the microphone. I didn't

1556
01:29:42,120 --> 01:29:44,550
maybe permissions were asked
somewhere I didn't care to look,

1557
01:29:44,550 --> 01:29:47,670
I just want to install it. This
thing can be listening to me.

1558
01:29:48,180 --> 01:29:51,120
But it could also just be
listening to the TV and then

1559
01:29:51,120 --> 01:29:54,900
saying oh, he's watching this
show. BB BB BB my phone picks it

1560
01:29:54,900 --> 01:29:58,830
up. Amazon now knows what I'm
watching. This is completely

1561
01:29:58,830 --> 01:30:00,900
technical possible technically
possible.

1562
01:30:02,669 --> 01:30:05,759
And what also is technically
possible, especially with our

1563
01:30:05,759 --> 01:30:09,359
group is mechanisms to defeat
the whole thing.

1564
01:30:21,720 --> 01:30:25,260
Yes, there are many things that
can be done. And the number one.

1565
01:30:26,100 --> 01:30:30,660
Yes, I should mention that while
we have coders out there that

1566
01:30:30,660 --> 01:30:35,610
are talented, then it might be
interesting to send messages,

1567
01:30:36,240 --> 01:30:36,990
these little

1568
01:30:37,680 --> 01:30:40,350
with our own with our own coded
message, our own tones

1569
01:30:40,440 --> 01:30:43,800
yet with our own chosen a
indicating that everybody's

1570
01:30:43,800 --> 01:30:45,630
listening to no agenda all the
time.

1571
01:30:47,010 --> 01:30:50,190
Exactly. We there's a lot to be
learned and who knows what the

1572
01:30:50,190 --> 01:30:56,220
encoding of the blips is. But my
solution, I'm just going to talk

1573
01:30:56,220 --> 01:30:58,080
about the phone now. And by the
way,

1574
01:30:58,080 --> 01:31:01,290
everything you said in that last
segment, before you go to your

1575
01:31:01,290 --> 01:31:05,370
solution, I should say my
solution is to keep the phone

1576
01:31:05,370 --> 01:31:08,670
often in the closet. But yet,
right, which I didn't worry

1577
01:31:08,670 --> 01:31:11,280
about at this time. But we've
already established that we have

1578
01:31:11,280 --> 01:31:17,280
different lifestyles. And I need
to be in some kind of contact.

1579
01:31:17,280 --> 01:31:20,610
But I have my determination now
is Yeah, face back bad Google

1580
01:31:20,610 --> 01:31:27,030
bad. But really bad on us. We're
carrying around $1,000 pieces of

1581
01:31:27,030 --> 01:31:29,910
technology. And I'll just use
the word again, we're the

1582
01:31:29,910 --> 01:31:33,810
wetware. We basically do what
whatever Silicon Valley wants us

1583
01:31:33,810 --> 01:31:36,450
to do with it. And the problem
is the phone itself, not that

1584
01:31:36,450 --> 01:31:40,260
Apple is evil. But they set out
to do things like oh, we've got

1585
01:31:40,260 --> 01:31:43,290
the accelerometer. Now we can do
great games and cool stuff. But

1586
01:31:43,290 --> 01:31:46,620
of course, that can also be used
to find out where you are what

1587
01:31:46,620 --> 01:31:49,200
you're doing riding the bus
riding, riding, driving, the

1588
01:31:49,200 --> 01:31:52,380
car, walking, running, sleeping,
reading in bed, all of this can

1589
01:31:52,380 --> 01:31:55,350
be determined by this data,
which you know, you have to be

1590
01:31:55,350 --> 01:31:57,930
asked for it. And you probably
just said yes. So you're giving

1591
01:31:57,930 --> 01:32:02,640
it away. Browsers are a whole
nother issue. So I, as we

1592
01:32:02,640 --> 01:32:05,820
discussed on the previous show,
I've ordered five different OTG

1593
01:32:05,820 --> 01:32:08,490
devices, these will be phones
that I'm using, I'm going to

1594
01:32:08,490 --> 01:32:13,680
test every single one of them to
replace my smartphone. And I

1595
01:32:13,680 --> 01:32:15,900
have the first one in and I've
been using it for a couple of

1596
01:32:15,900 --> 01:32:17,820
days. And I've learned some
interesting things.

1597
01:32:18,090 --> 01:32:20,400
And if you're interested

1598
01:32:21,990 --> 01:32:25,290
Well, I think everyone's
interested. It's not just about

1599
01:32:25,290 --> 01:32:27,750
me, you should be riveted. I'm
only talking to you.

1600
01:32:29,610 --> 01:32:31,710
Alright, the first one that came
in

1601
01:32:31,769 --> 01:32:34,919
Oh, hold on before you continue
what happened to the pager? Oh,

1602
01:32:34,919 --> 01:32:35,099
no,

1603
01:32:35,130 --> 01:32:39,330
that well, the pager is still
activated. But as we discussed

1604
01:32:39,330 --> 01:32:42,210
the pager, it just doesn't work.
Because you can't have an

1605
01:32:42,210 --> 01:32:45,060
actual Convos a piece of shit.
It's not a

1606
01:32:45,060 --> 01:32:48,720
piece of shit. That was the
first realization for me, of the

1607
01:32:48,720 --> 01:32:51,720
changes in technology that
brought us to where we are

1608
01:32:51,720 --> 01:32:55,650
today. The first one is the
speed of messaging, it's it's no

1609
01:32:55,650 --> 01:32:58,440
longer really appropriate to
have to wait three to five

1610
01:32:58,440 --> 01:33:00,780
minutes in between a message
going back and forth. It was

1611
01:33:00,780 --> 01:33:04,350
just I love you, I love you,
too. You know, that's just no

1612
01:33:04,350 --> 01:33:07,920
good. Or any other conversation
where you might want to have

1613
01:33:07,920 --> 01:33:10,980
like a real chat experience. So
that that is just not working.

1614
01:33:11,310 --> 01:33:14,970
So I decided I would want a I
would get a feature phone, which

1615
01:33:14,970 --> 01:33:20,970
would mean no apps, a browser is
really the way to go. SMS text

1616
01:33:20,970 --> 01:33:25,110
messaging, and of course
calling. But the idea is the

1617
01:33:25,110 --> 01:33:29,010
phone is so low tech that it
has, it has nothing to give this

1618
01:33:29,010 --> 01:33:31,710
you know, of course it's going
to, although the one I have

1619
01:33:31,740 --> 01:33:33,840
doesn't show up as a known
browser, which is kind of fun.

1620
01:33:34,140 --> 01:33:36,810
So the first phone I got Odin
has to have a QWERTY keyboard, a

1621
01:33:36,810 --> 01:33:40,890
full keyboard. Because if you're
going to use something for you

1622
01:33:40,890 --> 01:33:43,830
know, messaging back and forth,
you can't be hitting a key three

1623
01:33:43,830 --> 01:33:47,190
times just to get to D. Now
that's a little too old school.

1624
01:33:47,880 --> 01:33:52,950
So the first one is the Nokia X
two dash one. And the first

1625
01:33:52,950 --> 01:33:57,600
thing I realized is we have come
a long way with cell phone

1626
01:33:57,600 --> 01:34:03,060
conductivity, because this only
uses 2g and the really the old

1627
01:34:03,060 --> 01:34:08,460
school GSM networks which are
being phased out by everybody to

1628
01:34:08,460 --> 01:34:12,720
make room for God knows whatever
five G six g all that crap. So

1629
01:34:12,720 --> 01:34:15,930
they're being phased out. So you
don't have reliable signal. You

1630
01:34:15,930 --> 01:34:18,570
go into a building, you lose
your signal.

1631
01:34:18,810 --> 01:34:19,740
I remember those days.

1632
01:34:21,180 --> 01:34:23,910
Yeah, that was like, most of the
time.

1633
01:34:23,940 --> 01:34:30,960
Yeah. So that problem comes
back. But otherwise, the phone

1634
01:34:30,990 --> 01:34:35,190
it does exactly what it says on
on the packaging. You can call

1635
01:34:35,220 --> 01:34:39,060
it all the apps, they like oh V
store, none of that works. Yeah,

1636
01:34:39,090 --> 01:34:42,450
there's no mail client. But the
browser works perfectly well

1637
01:34:42,450 --> 01:34:47,400
with webmail and I have a mobile
template for squirrel mail. Ah,

1638
01:34:47,430 --> 01:34:50,730
yeah. So that we didn't bite,
you know, if you do Gmail, not

1639
01:34:50,730 --> 01:34:54,780
that you'd want to but most
email systems work very well.

1640
01:34:55,200 --> 01:34:58,830
You can even get to the
tweeters. They have a very old

1641
01:34:59,160 --> 01:35:02,460
version which They'll pops up.
And interestingly enough, I

1642
01:35:02,460 --> 01:35:05,190
logged into Google with it. And
Google could not because I

1643
01:35:05,190 --> 01:35:08,070
looked, I wanted to know what
they had seen. They could not

1644
01:35:08,070 --> 01:35:11,190
identify the browser type, which
means they really don't know

1645
01:35:11,190 --> 01:35:15,450
much about me other than my IP
address. So that's an OTG

1646
01:35:15,450 --> 01:35:18,120
device, which of course, there's
tracking going on. But can they

1647
01:35:18,120 --> 01:35:21,300
really do much with my behavior?
Can they really tell what I'm

1648
01:35:21,300 --> 01:35:26,220
doing? No, they can't. But the
conductivity issue is too big.

1649
01:35:26,430 --> 01:35:29,250
So I have a couple more of these
two G phones coming in, I don't

1650
01:35:29,250 --> 01:35:32,040
think they're going to be good
enough. It has to be a minimum

1651
01:35:32,040 --> 01:35:34,590
of three G, because you gotta
get on different frequencies.

1652
01:35:34,890 --> 01:35:38,400
Otherwise, there's just not
enough signals, and we're going

1653
01:35:38,400 --> 01:35:44,700
to lose out. Again, there's no
apps, it's all just if it's an

1654
01:35:44,700 --> 01:35:48,030
app, that's something that might
talk directly to to an API. But

1655
01:35:48,030 --> 01:35:50,910
if you just use a browser, the
text messaging and the Nokia

1656
01:35:50,910 --> 01:35:54,180
actually has a nice, just kind
of like a conversation threaded

1657
01:35:54,180 --> 01:35:57,990
version of it. You can go to
separate things called

1658
01:35:57,990 --> 01:36:01,740
conversations, which are just
text messages, put into a chat

1659
01:36:01,740 --> 01:36:05,520
style interface. It's pretty
enjoyable. And I had a great

1660
01:36:05,520 --> 01:36:09,780
time again, yesterday, it was
the things around town. And just

1661
01:36:09,780 --> 01:36:14,400
watching the zombies, zombies on
the street, heads bent over

1662
01:36:14,400 --> 01:36:18,630
shoulders hunched, looking at
their phones. And did I miss out

1663
01:36:18,840 --> 01:36:22,710
on getting into holes? Did I
miss anything now, I really

1664
01:36:22,710 --> 01:36:28,170
didn't miss anything. Now a lot
of people are sending me ideas

1665
01:36:28,170 --> 01:36:31,230
like well, you can do it, you
can do a complete clean load of

1666
01:36:31,230 --> 01:36:35,700
pure Linux, GNU Linux approved
Android phone, you rip it off,

1667
01:36:35,700 --> 01:36:38,490
do your own custom build, of
course. But the whole idea is

1668
01:36:38,670 --> 01:36:42,240
digital detox, you're off the
grid, not just because the face

1669
01:36:42,240 --> 01:36:45,060
bags and the Googles are
building up a profile of you and

1670
01:36:45,060 --> 01:36:48,840
all this listener stuff that can
be hidden in apps. It's not just

1671
01:36:48,840 --> 01:36:52,380
because of that, if you need
your life back, you really do

1672
01:36:52,380 --> 01:36:56,400
and you will enjoy it. And when
I come home, I get on my brave

1673
01:36:56,400 --> 01:37:00,690
browser, I fire up the VPN.
There's minimal tracking, and I

1674
01:37:00,690 --> 01:37:03,150
still go to the social nets and
I get my news. No my

1675
01:37:03,150 --> 01:37:06,870
information. I do it. And I have
so much time now that that I

1676
01:37:06,870 --> 01:37:11,400
don't have this app phone. I
binge watched Lost in Space.

1677
01:37:12,780 --> 01:37:15,240
That's, that's the proof. Right?
There's

1678
01:37:15,240 --> 01:37:18,510
something very ironic about what
you just said. But it's true. I

1679
01:37:18,510 --> 01:37:20,760
have so much time now I can
wait.

1680
01:37:23,580 --> 01:37:26,400
But if you now because we're
talking about the tube, if you

1681
01:37:26,400 --> 01:37:31,080
now know that the Amazon Echo
kids edition is coming out,

1682
01:37:31,530 --> 01:37:35,580
which has a special version of
its voice assistant, which is

1683
01:37:35,580 --> 01:37:40,530
also going to reward kids for
being friendly towards the

1684
01:37:40,530 --> 01:37:45,720
device. Yeah, yes. Saying thank
you and the device will say

1685
01:37:45,720 --> 01:37:48,450
You're welcome. You know, thank
you for being so polite. It will

1686
01:37:48,510 --> 01:37:53,940
help train your slave. I mean,
this has got to stop.

1687
01:37:54,300 --> 01:37:57,420
I know what stopping anytime
soon. No, but we're not stopping

1688
01:37:57,420 --> 01:37:57,600
it.

1689
01:37:57,660 --> 01:38:01,050
Well, as soon as we have a voice
record. We've determined we're

1690
01:38:01,050 --> 01:38:03,840
getting rid of the talking tube
and I'm actually gonna throw it

1691
01:38:03,840 --> 01:38:16,200
down the trash chute. Because
that Oh, speaking of which, you

1692
01:38:16,200 --> 01:38:19,650
know that big fire on the last
show? Yeah, you know what it

1693
01:38:19,650 --> 01:38:22,590
was? It was your old apartment.
It was my old apartment but

1694
01:38:22,590 --> 01:38:27,180
someone had thrown smoldering
coal. Apparently from a barbecue

1695
01:38:27,180 --> 01:38:31,200
that had on the balcony trash
down the trash chute and

1696
01:38:31,200 --> 01:38:33,150
this is a kind of this is where
we ended up with this with our

1697
01:38:33,150 --> 01:38:35,250
population is gonna be like
Idiocracy.

1698
01:38:35,549 --> 01:38:40,139
That's exactly right. Is that
the problem was there was that

1699
01:38:40,139 --> 01:38:42,839
burns pretty well down there at
the bottom but all the smoke

1700
01:38:42,839 --> 01:38:47,519
went to the top floors so it was
just billowing black smoke

1701
01:38:47,519 --> 01:38:53,909
apparently is very fabulous.
Yeah. Let me see. So if you want

1702
01:38:53,909 --> 01:38:57,359
to learn more about this
ultrasonic information a lot is

1703
01:38:57,389 --> 01:39:00,989
in the in the show notes and
just to add one final bit

1704
01:39:00,989 --> 01:39:04,799
besides them having an
investment from Intel they also

1705
01:39:04,799 --> 01:39:10,559
have a investment and
partnership with Visa. Yeah, and

1706
01:39:10,589 --> 01:39:12,749
you know when you get this kind
of stuff when you put it all

1707
01:39:12,749 --> 01:39:16,229
together they mean we need to
have spells trouble starts with

1708
01:39:16,229 --> 01:39:19,619
T Yeah, it's big trouble and one
other thing on the horizon

1709
01:39:20,039 --> 01:39:23,699
trouble trouble Yeah, well, I
mean, I'm, I'm it's very hard

1710
01:39:23,699 --> 01:39:28,289
trying to go back in time using
older tech. I mean, it's the

1711
01:39:28,289 --> 01:39:28,919
world has really

1712
01:39:29,940 --> 01:39:34,320
challenged people to go use
Windows one. Yeah.

1713
01:39:35,400 --> 01:39:37,500
Also the speed of these phones
is pretty funny.

1714
01:39:37,860 --> 01:39:42,240
I want to remind people that the
movie Josie and the Pussycats

1715
01:39:43,020 --> 01:39:48,360
starring there already mentioned
Parker Posey is about this is

1716
01:39:48,360 --> 01:39:51,360
exactly about what Adam was
talking about with this. The

1717
01:39:51,420 --> 01:39:57,240
Internet of sound as the guy put
it, internet of sound iOS. It's

1718
01:39:57,240 --> 01:40:00,000
that's what the movies about is
very funny. Very funny. Kind.

1719
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:04,950
Have insightful futuristic film
done years ago. But it's about

1720
01:40:04,950 --> 01:40:09,600
this exact same topic, embedding
these little tones and sounds

1721
01:40:09,600 --> 01:40:12,000
inside of things. Only this was
done to brainwash the public.

1722
01:40:12,029 --> 01:40:14,789
And I remember you talking about
that movie and I have not seen

1723
01:40:14,789 --> 01:40:16,889
it and you said it was a good
movie just hit me that you

1724
01:40:16,889 --> 01:40:19,109
reviewed it on the show. I
didn't say that

1725
01:40:19,109 --> 01:40:22,259
was very movie. Very hard to
come by.

1726
01:40:22,920 --> 01:40:27,090
Well produced very funny movie.
It's a it's kind of a satire. So

1727
01:40:27,090 --> 01:40:27,300
now

1728
01:40:27,300 --> 01:40:30,810
what I do is when we're watching
TV, I have the spectrum analyzer

1729
01:40:30,810 --> 01:40:36,840
on. Oh, god, yeah, see it? See
who's embedding ads? Yeah. What

1730
01:40:36,840 --> 01:40:40,410
I really want I couldn't find
though. I get this beggar. Yeah.

1731
01:40:40,620 --> 01:40:44,430
Yeah. Okay. I do this as a
public service, man. No, I

1732
01:40:44,429 --> 01:40:47,099
think you're doing Yeah, well, I
think is a fantastic public

1733
01:40:47,099 --> 01:40:50,039
service. But it's a little
nerdy. Yeah, but

1734
01:40:50,160 --> 01:40:54,630
the shit is going on is not
okay. And we and people just

1735
01:40:54,630 --> 01:40:57,510
don't realize it. So you know, I
may not be able to solve your

1736
01:40:57,510 --> 01:40:59,820
dementia or dementia be
problems, but this is a problem

1737
01:40:59,820 --> 01:41:00,600
for everybody.

1738
01:41:01,620 --> 01:41:02,460
And it's,

1739
01:41:03,480 --> 01:41:07,290
it's not healthy. We've
determined this many times. And

1740
01:41:07,290 --> 01:41:10,200
these phones, it's just it's
something Troy,

1741
01:41:10,200 --> 01:41:13,590
that guy was so proud of this
thing that he's taught. Oh, yes.

1742
01:41:13,590 --> 01:41:17,670
Oh, yes. Your CEO guy. Yeah. The
air air network. Yes. So as air

1743
01:41:17,670 --> 01:41:20,310
gapped, it's an easy one to say
Internet of sound,

1744
01:41:20,339 --> 01:41:25,409
internet. Internet of sound.
That's right. And of course,

1745
01:41:25,409 --> 01:41:28,649
Google is trying to hijack SMS
now they've never had a good

1746
01:41:28,709 --> 01:41:33,359
chat client. So now they're come
out with a new additional

1747
01:41:33,359 --> 01:41:38,459
protocol called, was it they
just calling it chat? It's

1748
01:41:39,029 --> 01:41:42,839
supposed to integrate with SMS
but it'll still maybe go through

1749
01:41:42,839 --> 01:41:46,379
Xs, MP or oh, by the way, for
those of you who are migrating

1750
01:41:46,409 --> 01:41:50,279
going OTG from the iPhone.
here's the here's the bad news.

1751
01:41:50,459 --> 01:41:54,059
If you have lots of contacts on
WhatsApp, just tell everybody

1752
01:41:54,089 --> 01:41:55,859
Screw it. You can't get me
there. They've your number

1753
01:41:55,859 --> 01:41:59,099
anyway. Because that's how you
connect on WhatsApp. They're

1754
01:41:59,099 --> 01:42:01,409
gonna have to use text
messaging, because WhatsApp,

1755
01:42:01,439 --> 01:42:04,889
you're not going to get it. I
think it'll run on some Nokia

1756
01:42:04,889 --> 01:42:09,599
phones, see? Telegraph, man? No,
none of that stuff. This No, no,

1757
01:42:09,629 --> 01:42:13,349
there's none of that is there,
go home, go home and do that.

1758
01:42:13,859 --> 01:42:17,909
But if you if you have this is
kind of nice about what when

1759
01:42:17,909 --> 01:42:21,209
Apple introduced iMessage. You
know, once you have established

1760
01:42:21,209 --> 01:42:24,509
connection, then you're not
going through SMS messaging

1761
01:42:24,509 --> 01:42:28,229
systems, you're going through
their own proprietary, you know,

1762
01:42:28,229 --> 01:42:31,829
IP, I think it's it's probably
peer to peer after they connect

1763
01:42:31,829 --> 01:42:32,039
you.

1764
01:42:32,490 --> 01:42:34,380
But here's the cool thing.

1765
01:42:35,309 --> 01:42:38,339
If if your phone is not
connected, so you know, I turned

1766
01:42:38,339 --> 01:42:40,979
my phone off. Like completely
off, I

1767
01:42:40,980 --> 01:42:43,350
leave the house, I want to make
sure that you said here's the

1768
01:42:43,350 --> 01:42:45,510
cool thing. It is cool. It is
cool. Okay.

1769
01:42:46,950 --> 01:42:50,430
Go on. When you leave the house,
if someone tries to send you a

1770
01:42:50,430 --> 01:42:54,090
message through iMessage on the
IP and it sees you're offline,

1771
01:42:54,090 --> 01:42:56,910
it'll automatically send that as
a text message. And then when

1772
01:42:56,910 --> 01:43:01,500
you reply, it'll show up in the
same thread. So the migration

1773
01:43:01,500 --> 01:43:03,630
off is a lot easier than I
thought it would be because I'm

1774
01:43:03,630 --> 01:43:06,930
like, oh my god, everyone,
everyone who's got me on the IP

1775
01:43:06,930 --> 01:43:10,050
version of iMessage they can't
text me anymore, but they can as

1776
01:43:10,050 --> 01:43:11,850
long as you turn your phone off
so that's good.

1777
01:43:12,990 --> 01:43:15,420
Enough phone news. Yes. And
today

1778
01:43:15,420 --> 01:43:21,030
I received the Z 431 And I
believe that has 3g radios I

1779
01:43:21,030 --> 01:43:32,160
will have a quick review on
Sunday eg with OTG Adams OTG

1780
01:43:36,660 --> 01:43:39,330
short news story that came out
was kind of it was about a

1781
01:43:39,330 --> 01:43:41,820
murder of some we went out a
murder but a shooting as some

1782
01:43:41,820 --> 01:43:45,780
poor sound guy that was on the
cop show mentioning cops earlier

1783
01:43:47,340 --> 01:43:51,930
and I think if Tony can kind of
catch the the trying to imagine

1784
01:43:51,930 --> 01:43:54,990
the overall situation as this
report is given they don't

1785
01:43:54,990 --> 01:43:59,220
really get into editorialized on
it or anything but this guy was

1786
01:43:59,220 --> 01:44:03,570
sued this guy's family sued the
police department that they were

1787
01:44:03,990 --> 01:44:06,930
following around police's cops
sound man kill.

1788
01:44:07,919 --> 01:44:10,859
They were they run it hates the
show that takes viewers to the

1789
01:44:10,859 --> 01:44:14,189
front lines as cops hunt for
criminals. I got it. I got it.

1790
01:44:15,089 --> 01:44:17,999
But on this night, it's the cost
camera crew caught in the

1791
01:44:17,999 --> 01:44:22,019
crossfire and armed robbery
suspect inside an Omaha Wendy's

1792
01:44:22,049 --> 01:44:30,029
it erupts into a brutal
firefight. The shooting stops

1793
01:44:30,059 --> 01:44:33,719
but 38 year old sound man Bryce
Dion. His microphone on the

1794
01:44:33,719 --> 01:44:41,039
ground is hit. The bullet that
killed Dion just missing his

1795
01:44:41,039 --> 01:44:47,099
bulletproof vest. The fatal shot
was fired by an Omaha police

1796
01:44:47,099 --> 01:44:50,669
officer fiance's family now
suing the city of Omaha for

1797
01:44:50,669 --> 01:44:51,539
negligence and I

1798
01:44:51,540 --> 01:44:54,540
think it sheds light on exactly
what happened. And the fact that

1799
01:44:54,540 --> 01:44:58,380
Mr. Dion was caught in the
crossfire through no fault of

1800
01:44:58,380 --> 01:44:58,800
his own.

1801
01:44:58,889 --> 01:45:01,739
This suspect armed with pellet
gun was also killed

1802
01:45:01,950 --> 01:45:06,270
through No, wait a minute to a
couple of things. Took a couple

1803
01:45:06,270 --> 01:45:13,050
of beats cheese. Okay. First of
all through no fault of his own,

1804
01:45:13,170 --> 01:45:13,860
sorry

1805
01:45:15,240 --> 01:45:18,000
the guy was there. Anything can
happen on the end when you're

1806
01:45:18,000 --> 01:45:19,890
doing that kind of work. So

1807
01:45:21,000 --> 01:45:24,510
apparently from the sounds of it
the cops are just shooting

1808
01:45:24,510 --> 01:45:27,660
randomly all over the place with
their eyes closed and I think

1809
01:45:27,660 --> 01:45:30,300
that the guy might have been
shot in the back of admist his

1810
01:45:30,300 --> 01:45:34,620
bulletproof vests and then still
killed him. Who knows? And that

1811
01:45:34,620 --> 01:45:37,140
but they suspect had a pellet
gun. Nice. Yeah,

1812
01:45:37,320 --> 01:45:38,820
yeah, that's the kicker.

1813
01:45:40,080 --> 01:45:43,500
So these cops got some guy with
a pellet gun at ping, ping ping.

1814
01:45:43,500 --> 01:45:45,510
He's got a pellet gun selling
guns are dangerous.

1815
01:45:45,960 --> 01:45:48,870
You can't hold that up. If you
hold up anything. You hold up a

1816
01:45:48,870 --> 01:45:49,860
cell phone it looks like

1817
01:45:51,150 --> 01:45:54,090
the point is a guy with a pellet
gun. These guys are going nuts

1818
01:45:54,090 --> 01:45:56,970
shooting all over the place. I
believe they do shoot with their

1819
01:45:56,970 --> 01:46:00,330
eyes closed, squinting and is
shooting like crazy and shaking

1820
01:46:00,330 --> 01:46:05,280
their hands. And they shot the
sound guy somehow. There's a guy

1821
01:46:05,280 --> 01:46:08,880
with a pellet gun. He's right
there. You shoot at him.

1822
01:46:09,810 --> 01:46:14,010
You remember the old FBI show
would always be like,

1823
01:46:14,400 --> 01:46:18,270
stop FBI. The guy got and the
FBI go.

1824
01:46:19,500 --> 01:46:24,420
And the guy would be down. Yeah.
Those nerves those days, those

1825
01:46:24,420 --> 01:46:25,080
days are over.

1826
01:46:26,670 --> 01:46:28,680
Oh, those were the days.

1827
01:46:31,170 --> 01:46:34,200
I just find that to be the guy
at a pellet gun. And they don't

1828
01:46:34,200 --> 01:46:40,080
know. It's just beyond me. I got
another Oh, John Gray, the

1829
01:46:40,080 --> 01:46:43,260
author of a mirror from Venus
and women from Mars or Mina from

1830
01:46:43,260 --> 01:46:45,660
classic. Yeah, classic. I know
where everybody's from, but

1831
01:46:45,660 --> 01:46:46,440
they're from some planet.

1832
01:46:48,300 --> 01:46:50,790
Danger Will Robinson. He did
that

1833
01:46:51,990 --> 01:46:55,020
book by 25 years. He's in town.
He's going to be speaking at

1834
01:46:55,020 --> 01:46:58,500
some, you know the thing in San
Mateo. So they interviewed him I

1835
01:46:58,500 --> 01:47:01,650
thought these were pretty little
old fashioned thing. And I'm

1836
01:47:01,650 --> 01:47:05,520
surprised he's is not being
picketed by the locals and you

1837
01:47:05,520 --> 01:47:10,050
know, the lip Joes that run this
area. But I felt that there's

1838
01:47:10,050 --> 01:47:12,930
two clips I felt worth listening
to in this. Here's the first

1839
01:47:12,930 --> 01:47:13,170
one.

1840
01:47:13,200 --> 01:47:15,510
But what has changed the most in
25 years because the

1841
01:47:15,840 --> 01:47:18,540
more traditional relationships
are doing better. But what

1842
01:47:18,540 --> 01:47:22,500
happens as women become
providers, a new dynamic sets up

1843
01:47:22,530 --> 01:47:25,170
and we need to know new
communication skills for that

1844
01:47:25,200 --> 01:47:28,500
equality in the relationship. It
was much simpler. In the old

1845
01:47:28,500 --> 01:47:31,140
days, when men made the money
and women took care of the home,

1846
01:47:31,140 --> 01:47:34,590
they do their roles. Today,
women are making the money along

1847
01:47:34,590 --> 01:47:38,070
with men. So what are men's
roles at home. So often women

1848
01:47:38,070 --> 01:47:41,010
would have feminized men and
make men into women as opposed

1849
01:47:41,010 --> 01:47:44,610
to understanding how a man can
actually support a woman and

1850
01:47:44,610 --> 01:47:47,340
coming back to a place of
happiness. Because when women

1851
01:47:47,340 --> 01:47:49,920
are spending all day in the
workplace, they're stimulating

1852
01:47:49,920 --> 01:47:53,850
testosterone, which is the male
hormone that we as men need 30

1853
01:47:53,850 --> 01:47:57,180
times more than women. But for
women, they're not stimulating

1854
01:47:57,210 --> 01:48:01,080
estrogen, and progesterone which
women need 10 times more than

1855
01:48:01,080 --> 01:48:04,230
men. So there's relationship
skills at home, that can help

1856
01:48:04,230 --> 01:48:07,770
women open their hearts more and
be happier and not be so

1857
01:48:07,770 --> 01:48:09,690
overwhelmed, which is very
common today.

1858
01:48:11,370 --> 01:48:16,740
Oh, yeah, this is gonna be a
shit show. I just fold this

1859
01:48:17,010 --> 01:48:20,580
folds perfectly into my next
clips. What's What's the second

1860
01:48:20,580 --> 01:48:20,880
one,

1861
01:48:21,360 --> 01:48:25,050
the second one folds perfectly
into what you were just going on

1862
01:48:25,050 --> 01:48:29,490
and on about how important all
this stuff was to you. And we'll

1863
01:48:29,490 --> 01:48:29,880
play it.

1864
01:48:30,000 --> 01:48:33,750
One of the things that makes
life more overwhelming now is

1865
01:48:33,750 --> 01:48:36,600
the prevalence of social media
and everybody were you in a text

1866
01:48:36,600 --> 01:48:39,060
crazy society? How does that
impact these

1867
01:48:39,420 --> 01:48:42,060
huge impact and I cover that in
a new book as well, which is

1868
01:48:42,060 --> 01:48:45,270
what happens is when when you've
got a computer here, stimulating

1869
01:48:45,270 --> 01:48:48,630
your brain, it stimulates more
dopamine, the feel good brain

1870
01:48:48,630 --> 01:48:51,570
chemical than actually looking
in somebody's eyes and talking

1871
01:48:51,570 --> 01:48:54,450
to them. So just like if you
were to take cocaine, which

1872
01:48:54,450 --> 01:48:57,540
stimulates high levels of
dopamine, in one use, your brain

1873
01:48:57,540 --> 01:49:01,620
rewires itself to prioritize
cocaine over spending time in

1874
01:49:01,620 --> 01:49:03,090
relationship. Well,

1875
01:49:03,120 --> 01:49:08,790
here's the deal. Every if you go
OTG every day as a reward you

1876
01:49:08,790 --> 01:49:14,370
get to do along. It's healthier,
believe it or not looking

1877
01:49:14,370 --> 01:49:18,810
to person conversation with a
person we become impatient, we

1878
01:49:18,810 --> 01:49:21,720
lose attention, we get
distracted, we become

1879
01:49:21,780 --> 01:49:24,510
particularly for men, women
become overwhelmed. Their brain

1880
01:49:24,510 --> 01:49:27,240
becomes overstimulated with
things they have to do. They

1881
01:49:27,240 --> 01:49:30,180
can't find that sort of resting
place in their heart and to feel

1882
01:49:30,180 --> 01:49:33,510
happy. This is all due to
overstimulation from

1883
01:49:33,510 --> 01:49:37,050
electronics. So that's high
stimulate, the brain rewires

1884
01:49:37,050 --> 01:49:40,830
itself, it can correct with new
insights of learning to balance

1885
01:49:40,830 --> 01:49:44,280
high stimulation with low
stimulation, which means taking

1886
01:49:44,280 --> 01:49:46,980
time to turn it all off and have
a conversation.

1887
01:49:47,220 --> 01:49:49,350
Oh, man, let's remember this
clip.

1888
01:49:50,070 --> 01:49:53,490
We will revisit this. That was

1889
01:49:53,519 --> 01:49:57,689
one minute very well explained.
It's totally true. And that's

1890
01:49:57,689 --> 01:50:02,009
wild. Yeah, totally nailed it.
Well, let's just go back to what

1891
01:50:02,039 --> 01:50:05,639
we should have played these two
in the opposite order. Let's go

1892
01:50:05,639 --> 01:50:09,509
back to the male, female, the
testosterone, etc. We had this,

1893
01:50:10,289 --> 01:50:16,139
this event in Toronto, and the
guy who did it is being called

1894
01:50:16,139 --> 01:50:20,519
an INCEL. Now we learned about
in cells on this show, half the

1895
01:50:20,519 --> 01:50:20,939
backup

1896
01:50:20,940 --> 01:50:22,830
and unexplained event in
Toronto.

1897
01:50:25,800 --> 01:50:28,800
Well, I had the clips kind of
explain it. So okay, I'll use

1898
01:50:28,800 --> 01:50:32,010
the quarter that happened. But
we'd but the Insell is the

1899
01:50:32,040 --> 01:50:35,160
involuntary celibate, and we
talked about this group, I think

1900
01:50:35,160 --> 01:50:37,830
it would do what's in relation
to the red pill documentary that

1901
01:50:37,830 --> 01:50:40,590
girl had made, maybe that's how
long maybe,

1902
01:50:41,700 --> 01:50:43,050
which everyone should see, by
the way.

1903
01:50:43,080 --> 01:50:46,710
Yeah, it's a while ago. So this
is group of self identifying, as

1904
01:50:46,710 --> 01:50:51,780
far as I understand, mainly men,
boys, guys, who say who can't

1905
01:50:51,780 --> 01:50:55,290
get laid can't get laid, right?
And so then, for this reason,

1906
01:50:55,440 --> 01:50:58,410
they are and this in the past
week, this really started to

1907
01:50:58,560 --> 01:51:02,670
shift were this term red pill,
which I have always understood

1908
01:51:02,670 --> 01:51:05,340
and well, I have a clip that
explains that the current

1909
01:51:05,340 --> 01:51:11,160
version of it because Kanye was
red pilling. Now. Who is who the

1910
01:51:11,160 --> 01:51:13,410
hell knows what they mean? I
think what it basically means

1911
01:51:13,410 --> 01:51:16,920
is, these guys hate women and
want to kill them. That is not

1912
01:51:16,920 --> 01:51:19,650
the brand. Yes, that is how
they're branded. Here we go.

1913
01:51:19,680 --> 01:51:21,750
We're gonna start with a
disturbing conversation.

1914
01:51:21,750 --> 01:51:25,140
medicine's NPR by the way, as
you can tell, it's the NPR

1915
01:51:25,140 --> 01:51:25,500
sound.

1916
01:51:25,530 --> 01:51:28,020
We're going to start with a
disturbing conversation may be

1917
01:51:28,020 --> 01:51:31,320
not for young years, about the
Canadian Vann attacker who

1918
01:51:31,320 --> 01:51:34,380
killed 10 Mostly women. He's
being praised.

1919
01:51:34,410 --> 01:51:35,070
Notice.

1920
01:51:35,940 --> 01:51:38,010
What's her name? That's fresh
air gal.

1921
01:51:38,040 --> 01:51:40,320
Yeah, but notice 10 Mostly
women.

1922
01:51:41,940 --> 01:51:43,200
She's now saying,

1923
01:51:43,620 --> 01:51:47,010
without any evidence, she's
already setting it up by saying

1924
01:51:47,010 --> 01:51:48,030
he targeted women.

1925
01:51:49,080 --> 01:51:53,190
were implying that let's put it
that way. Ah, yeah, catch

1926
01:51:53,220 --> 01:51:55,680
because he killed a weed. I
don't I mean, I've only heard

1927
01:51:55,680 --> 01:51:59,970
how many people how many did he
wound? Was it more than all

1928
01:51:59,970 --> 01:52:03,000
women as well? I think that
would matter in your reporting.

1929
01:52:03,030 --> 01:52:03,570
Terry

1930
01:52:03,600 --> 01:52:07,710
Yvan attacker who kills 10
mostly women, he's being praised

1931
01:52:07,740 --> 01:52:10,920
online as a new saint. By the
misogynist groups he was

1932
01:52:10,920 --> 01:52:14,490
reportedly a member of they're
called in sells involuntary

1933
01:52:14,490 --> 01:52:17,460
celibate they hate women,
because they believe they're

1934
01:52:17,460 --> 01:52:21,330
denying them sex. One wrote on a
message board after 25 year old

1935
01:52:21,330 --> 01:52:24,960
Alec Minassian drove his van
into pedestrians. Hopefully now

1936
01:52:24,960 --> 01:52:28,410
someone uses a truck to just ram
women down. Sam Louis is a

1937
01:52:28,410 --> 01:52:31,680
psychotherapist from Seattle who
treats sex addictions and many

1938
01:52:31,680 --> 01:52:34,470
in sells. Sam, tell us more
about this community.

1939
01:52:35,010 --> 01:52:38,220
Well, they gather online and I

1940
01:52:38,640 --> 01:52:42,750
come mystified. Second time use
the word buy this.

1941
01:52:43,080 --> 01:52:44,430
Why community?

1942
01:52:45,990 --> 01:52:48,870
Why is she calling it a
community in

1943
01:52:48,900 --> 01:52:52,020
these? This, you're getting Clip
of the Day for this already?

1944
01:52:53,010 --> 01:52:55,170
I'll wait until remember that
when you finish it when I

1945
01:52:55,170 --> 01:52:55,680
realized

1946
01:52:57,330 --> 01:53:01,140
you find this what? Fascinating.
What's more

1947
01:53:01,140 --> 01:53:01,950
about this community?

1948
01:53:02,490 --> 01:53:07,350
Well, they gather online and
it's growing. And part of the

1949
01:53:07,350 --> 01:53:11,850
reason is because of the way the
culture has shifted, where folks

1950
01:53:11,880 --> 01:53:15,930
are teased mercilessly in this
culture for I'll just say it

1951
01:53:15,930 --> 01:53:20,430
bluntly, being virgins, some of
them may be socially awkward all

1952
01:53:20,430 --> 01:53:25,170
the way through the autistic
spectrum. And then they also

1953
01:53:25,200 --> 01:53:30,090
don't fit the hypermasculine
description of what they think

1954
01:53:30,120 --> 01:53:34,590
would be attractive. All these
different facets that just feel

1955
01:53:34,620 --> 01:53:35,670
their sense of

1956
01:53:35,700 --> 01:53:47,250
shame. Know what just want to
make sure I

1957
01:53:47,970 --> 01:53:50,310
should have pulled us up to the
death I was gonna have a better

1958
01:53:50,310 --> 01:53:52,860
punch line up but you can keep
it

1959
01:53:52,920 --> 01:53:56,100
I'm just I just broke it up for
reasons of us talking about it.

1960
01:53:56,100 --> 01:53:57,900
We jumped in a little early, but
let's continue.

1961
01:53:57,929 --> 01:54:02,759
Why has it propelled to this
kind of rage that we are seeing

1962
01:54:02,759 --> 01:54:03,719
on these forums?

1963
01:54:03,990 --> 01:54:08,490
Well, the reason is, I think
very multi layered. If we start

1964
01:54:08,490 --> 01:54:09,570
with the big multi

1965
01:54:09,570 --> 01:54:10,800
layered, what does that shit

1966
01:54:11,880 --> 01:54:12,990
multi layered.

1967
01:54:13,320 --> 01:54:15,240
He said mold tide I think so.

1968
01:54:15,390 --> 01:54:16,800
Very multi layer.

1969
01:54:19,200 --> 01:54:20,160
multi layer

1970
01:54:20,190 --> 01:54:24,210
if we start with the beginning,
this community start again with

1971
01:54:24,210 --> 01:54:30,090
the community did in 1993 by
coincidentally a woman who was

1972
01:54:30,090 --> 01:54:35,580
from Toronto. She wanted to make
this very inclusive, all men and

1973
01:54:35,580 --> 01:54:40,380
women. It wasn't about violence,
but it was more or less helping

1974
01:54:40,410 --> 01:54:44,220
people to connect with other men
and women who struggled with her

1975
01:54:44,220 --> 01:54:49,650
and she said she bandied around
in an interview with other names

1976
01:54:49,650 --> 01:54:54,540
like late bloomer non blooming
ForeverAlone Yeah, forever. F a

1977
01:54:54,540 --> 01:54:58,890
is forever alone, perpetually
single. And what happened was a

1978
01:54:58,890 --> 01:55:03,660
lot of men young men, their
angst they had nowhere to feel

1979
01:55:03,690 --> 01:55:09,450
their sexual, emotional social.
seconds online.

1980
01:55:10,169 --> 01:55:14,039
How does this How is this any
different than from the 1920s?

1981
01:55:14,039 --> 01:55:19,289
The 1860s Whenever the old maid
used to be called an old maid

1982
01:55:21,089 --> 01:55:24,689
will aside, the men were just
called doofuses, but the old

1983
01:55:24,689 --> 01:55:25,079
maid

1984
01:55:26,340 --> 01:55:33,420
of preachers. No. This is
something, something has changed

1985
01:55:33,420 --> 01:55:37,980
in society. Where? Sure, I mean,
there's plenty of people. I'm

1986
01:55:37,980 --> 01:55:40,590
sure there's been communities
all the time of people who don't

1987
01:55:40,590 --> 01:55:44,550
get laid, but to say that
there's no way to vent their

1988
01:55:44,550 --> 01:55:48,600
sexual frustration. I don't
know, ever hear of porn. I mean,

1989
01:55:48,600 --> 01:55:51,990
there's all kinds of all kinds
of things about Booker's

1990
01:55:52,020 --> 01:55:56,250
workers. Well, maybe that's
well, I don't know if the access

1991
01:55:56,250 --> 01:55:59,460
to hookers has been cut back, I
can't get I can't get on the

1992
01:55:59,460 --> 01:56:00,540
back page anymore.

1993
01:56:00,900 --> 01:56:05,700
And their angst, they had
nowhere to feel their sexual,

1994
01:56:05,940 --> 01:56:09,750
emotional, social frustration.
So they found these online

1995
01:56:09,750 --> 01:56:11,310
communities and forums.

1996
01:56:11,610 --> 01:56:15,510
And this is where we start to
understand that we've moved from

1997
01:56:15,510 --> 01:56:19,470
a red pill to a black pill. I
think there's some guy who also

1998
01:56:19,470 --> 01:56:23,040
has the handle black pill,
because then we move from just

1999
01:56:23,040 --> 01:56:24,780
being anti women.

2000
01:56:25,200 --> 01:56:29,250
To that was red pill blue pill
had to do with the Matrix movie.

2001
01:56:29,280 --> 01:56:29,670
Yeah. So

2002
01:56:29,670 --> 01:56:34,980
now, red pilling. This is this
is how disturbing it is. In the

2003
01:56:34,980 --> 01:56:39,630
movie, The Matrix, you Neo gets
a choice blue pill or red pill

2004
01:56:39,630 --> 01:56:42,420
blue pill, everything's the
same. You wake up and your world

2005
01:56:42,420 --> 01:56:45,750
is the same. You're living in
mania still a Democrat, the red

2006
01:56:45,750 --> 01:56:48,900
pill, you take the red pill, you
go down the ugly to being you

2007
01:56:48,900 --> 01:56:51,780
know, you get all slimed. And
you figure out that it's all a

2008
01:56:51,780 --> 01:56:55,290
scam. And so now the
interpretation on the social

2009
01:56:55,290 --> 01:56:59,400
nets is when you're red pilling
someone you're telling them the

2010
01:56:59,400 --> 01:57:03,870
lie. Oh, this is this this world
that you're living in? is not

2011
01:57:03,870 --> 01:57:06,540
real. It's completely different.
But you what you're

2012
01:57:06,540 --> 01:57:09,930
communicating is a lie. Because
it's the world The world is the

2013
01:57:09,930 --> 01:57:11,670
way it's turning the whole meme
erupts is

2014
01:57:11,700 --> 01:57:12,840
insanity.

2015
01:57:12,870 --> 01:57:15,390
Look, some of the things that
misogynist things we're hearing

2016
01:57:15,390 --> 01:57:18,900
about on these forums are
disgusting, you know, they want

2017
01:57:18,900 --> 01:57:22,980
women murdered and killed. But
for those who are just this this

2018
01:57:22,980 --> 01:57:26,790
loneliness that you're talking
about, that it sounds profound.

2019
01:57:27,630 --> 01:57:31,530
It is. And I think what you
mentioned earlier, just to help

2020
01:57:31,530 --> 01:57:35,310
listeners understand this whole
black pill, the black pill is

2021
01:57:35,310 --> 01:57:38,850
probably a very small
percentage. That's the pill that

2022
01:57:39,180 --> 01:57:42,810
they metaphorically take, which
means I will now espouse

2023
01:57:42,810 --> 01:57:47,220
violence, hatred and misogyny,
whereas others might go the red

2024
01:57:47,220 --> 01:57:50,430
pill, so the red pill does, I'm
learning a lot from some of my

2025
01:57:50,430 --> 01:57:55,020
clients, the red pill, it's
similar to the whole matrix

2026
01:57:55,050 --> 01:57:58,530
analogy, where if I take the red
pill, this is the reality. And

2027
01:57:58,530 --> 01:58:03,210
the reality is I need to learn
other skills to quote unquote,

2028
01:58:03,240 --> 01:58:08,100
pick up women so they might use
manipulation tactics that not

2029
01:58:08,100 --> 01:58:11,130
necessarily violence, but they
need to come up with other

2030
01:58:11,130 --> 01:58:12,900
strategies. Now, here's

2031
01:58:12,900 --> 01:58:17,640
an idea. Why don't we stop
hating men and masculinity on

2032
01:58:17,640 --> 01:58:19,710
mass? That might be an
interesting start, you're

2033
01:58:19,710 --> 01:58:23,580
confusing people to no end,
you're toxic, especially if

2034
01:58:23,580 --> 01:58:27,630
you're white, you're toxic and
racist. You'd Shut up. You're

2035
01:58:27,630 --> 01:58:33,300
too busy. You're acting like a
moron. Take your privilege. You

2036
01:58:33,300 --> 01:58:36,930
know, there's been a war on men.
And then you'd find it strange.

2037
01:58:37,230 --> 01:58:41,520
That kids prop and by the way,
not a single question anywhere

2038
01:58:41,520 --> 01:58:44,220
about this Toronto van driver,
if he was on any kind of

2039
01:58:44,310 --> 01:58:49,410
psychotropic drugs, he seemed
pretty wacky. It's rather a

2040
01:58:49,410 --> 01:58:52,500
wacky thing to do. No, nothing.
You can go ahead and look, you

2041
01:58:52,500 --> 01:58:55,800
can't find any of that. Put
these kids on that. Tell them

2042
01:58:55,800 --> 01:58:59,700
they're horrible. Women speak
incredibly disparaging about men

2043
01:58:59,700 --> 01:59:03,750
about masculinity about male
behavior. What do you expect?

2044
01:59:08,550 --> 01:59:12,030
Getting what they expect, or
they should have expected. Now.

2045
01:59:12,840 --> 01:59:15,690
Everyone's tone deaf and
colorblind to this stuff. They

2046
01:59:15,690 --> 01:59:20,430
don't see it, John, they don't
see it at all. And dandy you in,

2047
01:59:20,520 --> 01:59:25,050
by the way women Women hate
Trump. They do. Yeah. Here's

2048
01:59:25,050 --> 01:59:27,540
Maxine Waters with proof. Are
you are you

2049
01:59:27,930 --> 01:59:31,230
the belief that Democrats should
make impeachment a centerpiece

2050
01:59:31,230 --> 01:59:32,280
of the midterm elections?

2051
01:59:32,580 --> 01:59:35,430
Well, they have indicated they
do not want to do that. They

2052
01:59:35,430 --> 01:59:38,250
think that the Republicans lose
it, you know, that whether we're

2053
01:59:38,250 --> 01:59:42,030
talking about the DNC or the D,
Triple C, they all believe that

2054
01:59:42,030 --> 01:59:45,810
the Republicans will just use
that and say they're mad because

2055
01:59:45,810 --> 01:59:49,050
they lost the election. And they
don't particularly think that

2056
01:59:49,050 --> 01:59:52,410
that's a good way to go with
this. I don't agree with it.

2057
01:59:52,500 --> 01:59:55,920
You don't agree. I mean, you
don't agree both tactically and

2058
01:59:55,920 --> 01:59:58,350
also substantively, I mean, I
guess my point is, I know that

2059
01:59:58,350 --> 02:00:00,210
you substantively feel he has
committed and Pete Egypt

2060
02:00:00,210 --> 02:00:03,510
defenses. Do you? Are you not
persuaded by the idea that it

2061
02:00:03,510 --> 02:00:05,130
would be a tactical mistake
politically? No, I'm

2062
02:00:05,130 --> 02:00:09,240
not persuaded by that idea. You
know why? Because I tell you,

2063
02:00:09,450 --> 02:00:14,010
everywhere I go, people are
talking about what why can't you

2064
02:00:14,100 --> 02:00:17,640
get rid of him? Why don't they
impeach him? What's wrong with

2065
02:00:17,640 --> 02:00:19,890
the other members of Congress?
Why don't they stand up with

2066
02:00:19,890 --> 02:00:23,310
you? This man is dishonorable.
He lies all the time. He's a con

2067
02:00:23,310 --> 02:00:26,670
man. They say all of these
things. And I'm not just talking

2068
02:00:26,670 --> 02:00:30,150
about my district, whether I'm
on the airplane, I'm walking

2069
02:00:30,150 --> 02:00:33,450
down the street in New York,
wherever I am, I'm hearing it.

2070
02:00:33,540 --> 02:00:37,710
And I'm told that 70% of women
who have been polled say that

2071
02:00:37,740 --> 02:00:38,790
they want him impeached,

2072
02:00:39,120 --> 02:00:40,380
Congresswoman Maxine Waters.

2073
02:00:41,910 --> 02:00:47,400
And so I was at his lies. Oh, it
well. I was at Johanna's.

2074
02:00:47,400 --> 02:00:51,930
Yesterday, she cuts my hair. I'm
wondering for for male clients.

2075
02:00:52,470 --> 02:00:57,390
And I said, So what's everyone
talking about? She says, every

2076
02:00:57,390 --> 02:01:00,360
single one of my clients who
sits in the chair says they

2077
02:01:00,360 --> 02:01:04,800
don't understand why Trump
hasn't been impeached and thrown

2078
02:01:04,800 --> 02:01:08,280
in jail yet. And I said, Wait a
minute, when they're connecting

2079
02:01:08,280 --> 02:01:10,560
those two says, oh, yeah, they
think impeachment means he gets

2080
02:01:10,560 --> 02:01:11,310
thrown in jail.

2081
02:01:15,150 --> 02:01:20,520
Wow. Yeah. To every single one.
Except for me, and then the

2082
02:01:20,520 --> 02:01:22,860
former New York banker course.

2083
02:01:23,880 --> 02:01:27,690
Yeah. Journalists seem to have a
grasp on reality, but that

2084
02:01:27,690 --> 02:01:30,570
but that is their reality. Just
turn on the on the telescreen

2085
02:01:30,570 --> 02:01:33,360
that is the reality of what
people are seeing. Maxine, by

2086
02:01:33,360 --> 02:01:37,500
the way, is also one of the time
100 I'm not quite sure what the

2087
02:01:37,500 --> 02:01:40,920
qualifications are. Maybe it's
if you're nearing the age 100

2088
02:01:41,280 --> 02:01:45,090
But if you had to give some
advice to President Trump, what

2089
02:01:45,090 --> 02:01:46,110
advice would you give him?

2090
02:01:46,620 --> 02:01:51,000
Please resign so that I won't
have to keep up despite of your,

2091
02:01:51,210 --> 02:01:54,510
you know, having to be
impeached? Because I don't think

2092
02:01:54,510 --> 02:01:56,340
you deserve to be there. Just
get out.

2093
02:01:58,590 --> 02:01:59,910
She's getting weary, I

2094
02:01:59,910 --> 02:02:05,190
think so the

2095
02:02:05,220 --> 02:02:10,680
they're going after this guy,
Jackson, the dog, Trump's

2096
02:02:10,680 --> 02:02:13,740
doctor, that White House Doctor
Yeah, it was actually Obama's

2097
02:02:13,740 --> 02:02:15,390
dog. Yeah. What's the dealio?

2098
02:02:15,390 --> 02:02:18,150
What's What's the dealio with
this guy? He's he's he's to be

2099
02:02:18,150 --> 02:02:21,270
the veterans administration's
guy. Is that what the problem

2100
02:02:21,270 --> 02:02:21,870
is? Yeah.

2101
02:02:22,230 --> 02:02:24,570
Adam Roy, he was being an
admiral means you do have to

2102
02:02:24,570 --> 02:02:26,820
have some management skills. So
it's possible he could do that

2103
02:02:26,820 --> 02:02:29,280
job, but for some reason, the
Democrats decided they can

2104
02:02:29,790 --> 02:02:30,660
disagree with us,

2105
02:02:30,660 --> 02:02:33,750
he needs to be confirmed. Is
that what's happening? Is that

2106
02:02:33,750 --> 02:02:34,920
is that a confirmation

2107
02:02:35,070 --> 02:02:38,130
bias? So okay, okay. So whatever
the case they they're making a

2108
02:02:38,130 --> 02:02:41,190
big fuss about it. I got a bunch
of clips. They're all short.

2109
02:02:42,630 --> 02:02:48,510
Let's start with the let's see.
I got I got a piece on Jackson,

2110
02:02:48,510 --> 02:02:52,500
bad Whitehouse bad ABC. This is
the way ABC approaches and then

2111
02:02:52,500 --> 02:02:56,100
I'm going to take it to PBS and
walk it down the roadway. We are

2112
02:02:56,100 --> 02:02:58,230
also following breaking
developments at this hour

2113
02:02:58,230 --> 02:03:00,810
involving President Trump's
personal physician. The

2114
02:03:00,810 --> 02:03:03,960
President's pick to lead the VA
and there are new allegations

2115
02:03:03,960 --> 02:03:07,080
uncovered tonight. Admiral Ronny
Jackson is now accused of

2116
02:03:07,080 --> 02:03:10,320
crashing a government vehicle
while drunk and recklessly

2117
02:03:10,350 --> 02:03:14,760
prescribing an opioid Percocet.
A short time ago Admiral Jackson

2118
02:03:14,760 --> 02:03:18,480
was fighting back what he's now
saying and ABCs Mary Bruce is on

2119
02:03:18,480 --> 02:03:19,710
the hill again tonight force,

2120
02:03:20,099 --> 02:03:23,999
toxic, abusive and volatile
tonight. That's how some former

2121
02:03:23,999 --> 02:03:26,729
and current colleagues are
describing the President's pick

2122
02:03:26,729 --> 02:03:31,079
to lead the VA accounts for more
than 20 people provided ABC News

2123
02:03:31,079 --> 02:03:34,229
by the top Democrat on the
Veterans Affairs Committee paint

2124
02:03:34,229 --> 02:03:38,129
an explosive picture of Dr.
Ronnie Jackson one describing

2125
02:03:38,129 --> 02:03:42,059
him as quote, the most unethical
person I have ever worked with.

2126
02:03:42,119 --> 02:03:44,549
Have you seen any concrete
evidence?

2127
02:03:45,420 --> 02:03:47,070
We've talked to a number of
folks that have made these

2128
02:03:47,070 --> 02:03:49,590
claims and we need to find out
if it's true or not.

2129
02:03:49,740 --> 02:03:53,880
Jackson is accused of drinking
on duty. On one occasion when

2130
02:03:53,880 --> 02:03:57,150
traveling with the president he
allegedly could not be reached

2131
02:03:57,150 --> 02:04:00,630
when needed because he was
passed out drunk in his hotel

2132
02:04:00,630 --> 02:04:04,200
room, and at a party he
allegedly got drunk and wrecked

2133
02:04:04,230 --> 02:04:07,560
a government vehicle. There are
also accusations about Jackson's

2134
02:04:07,560 --> 02:04:11,700
prescribing practices he wants
allegedly gave a large supply of

2135
02:04:11,700 --> 02:04:15,300
Percocet a prescription opioid
to another staffer without

2136
02:04:15,300 --> 02:04:18,720
documenting it throwing his
staff into a panic when

2137
02:04:18,720 --> 02:04:21,540
traveling on Air Force One
physicians and nurses described

2138
02:04:21,540 --> 02:04:25,110
him handing out Ambien to help
people sleep and Provigil to

2139
02:04:25,110 --> 02:04:27,930
help them wake up earning this
nicknamed

2140
02:04:29,460 --> 02:04:32,730
because he doled out
prescription drugs on these

2141
02:04:32,730 --> 02:04:34,440
trips where they flew through
multiple times.

2142
02:04:34,830 --> 02:04:37,680
We've talked to someone say that
standard operating procedure to

2143
02:04:37,680 --> 02:04:40,860
make sleeping aids for instance
available on long trips.

2144
02:04:40,890 --> 02:04:44,100
Well, I gotta say that standard
operating procedure I have not

2145
02:04:44,100 --> 02:04:46,470
witnessed it nor have I
participated in it

2146
02:04:46,530 --> 02:04:50,340
late today. As these new details
emerged. Jackson was spotted at

2147
02:04:50,340 --> 02:04:53,670
the White House asked about
prescribing that Percocet. He

2148
02:04:53,670 --> 02:04:58,560
denied it and wrecking a
government car. He denies that

2149
02:04:58,560 --> 02:04:59,010
too.

2150
02:04:59,400 --> 02:05:00,450
Very easy. heard that

2151
02:05:01,469 --> 02:05:04,559
before these new bombshell
allegations came out the White

2152
02:05:04,559 --> 02:05:06,749
House spent the day defending
Jackson

2153
02:05:06,989 --> 02:05:10,589
wow this is I had Tina was
talking about this this morning

2154
02:05:10,589 --> 02:05:14,339
and I had no idea that these
were the allegations The Candy

2155
02:05:14,339 --> 02:05:17,459
Man he's got a nickname The
Candy Man Oh

2156
02:05:17,489 --> 02:05:23,669
this you know this rings of bull
crap well cars are out the car

2157
02:05:23,669 --> 02:05:27,209
out well first of all is a
doctor yeah, I've never known a

2158
02:05:27,209 --> 02:05:30,509
doctor yet that doesn't hand out
stuff like Percocet just that

2159
02:05:30,509 --> 02:05:31,709
you know casually.

2160
02:05:32,099 --> 02:05:35,879
Every everybody's got
everybody's got a doctor friend

2161
02:05:35,969 --> 02:05:40,169
and he's got Percocet and Ambien
on the Air Force One he gives up

2162
02:05:40,169 --> 02:05:43,169
to date. I can't sleep Daria
okay here take this tipples out

2163
02:05:43,169 --> 02:05:47,339
of his pocket. And then he's
also probably got Yeah, he's a

2164
02:05:47,339 --> 02:05:53,039
military guy. So he knows about
was the other stuff the Provigil

2165
02:05:53,339 --> 02:05:56,429
which is a military drug did
everybody in the Air Force US

2166
02:05:56,459 --> 02:05:58,919
Navy everyone? You know, it's
it's it's better than

2167
02:05:59,429 --> 02:06:02,579
we're all drugged up. What's the
problem? And everyone's drunk?

2168
02:06:03,479 --> 02:06:04,049
I'm drunk.

2169
02:06:04,650 --> 02:06:07,860
A big fuss. Oh, the Percocet.
It's not like he's giving

2170
02:06:07,860 --> 02:06:12,000
fentanyl but okay, they making a
big fuss. None of the reporters

2171
02:06:12,000 --> 02:06:14,550
do any background on net. They
don't do any work.

2172
02:06:14,580 --> 02:06:17,970
Where did they come from? Where
did this was 23.

2173
02:06:18,030 --> 02:06:21,360
It all came from Sherrod Brown
and 23 people.

2174
02:06:21,420 --> 02:06:24,660
Was this Senate testimony the
house or where did

2175
02:06:24,660 --> 02:06:27,480
it this is a senator in the
armed forces. One of the first

2176
02:06:27,929 --> 02:06:30,059
is this something on C span
where these people are saying

2177
02:06:30,059 --> 02:06:31,589
this? Watch this. No, these

2178
02:06:31,590 --> 02:06:35,010
are secret. We don't even know
what these secret okay? It's

2179
02:06:35,010 --> 02:06:39,090
always 23 in the ABCs is over 20
But but they didn't want to use

2180
02:06:39,090 --> 02:06:44,160
the word 23 because 23 is code.
Sherrod Brown comes on PBS and

2181
02:06:44,160 --> 02:06:46,440
I'm gonna start playing those
clips and he's talking about a

2182
02:06:46,440 --> 02:06:48,330
lot of stuff and he's
contradicting himself.

2183
02:06:49,980 --> 02:06:53,220
Who the sheriff brown Sherrod
Oh, Sherry, who was who was

2184
02:06:53,220 --> 02:06:53,790
shared,

2185
02:06:53,969 --> 02:06:56,729
he's a piece of one of the
you've never heard of him

2186
02:06:56,729 --> 02:07:02,399
senators from Ohio, who is all
in he's a hill bot. Ah, he is

2187
02:07:02,909 --> 02:07:05,939
hates this guy. For some reason.
That note, none of these reports

2188
02:07:05,939 --> 02:07:08,609
mentioned that he's actually was
brought into the White House by

2189
02:07:08,609 --> 02:07:14,009
Obama. This don't mention Obama.
And it's just the report is so

2190
02:07:14,009 --> 02:07:17,609
slanted. And no one has done any
research to find this wrecked

2191
02:07:17,609 --> 02:07:18,269
car.

2192
02:07:18,330 --> 02:07:20,820
Yeah, that seems like something
we should be able to find.

2193
02:07:21,209 --> 02:07:23,789
So let's start with the first 23
People in the doctor

2194
02:07:24,089 --> 02:07:27,029
of the VA coming out of the
White House. I think probably

2195
02:07:27,029 --> 02:07:30,659
the most troubling single thing
about Dr. Jackson. And this is

2196
02:07:30,659 --> 02:07:34,319
corroborated by enough people 23
People have come forward

2197
02:07:34,379 --> 02:07:39,209
military or former military
talking to us that that he was

2198
02:07:39,209 --> 02:07:43,079
so inebriated 190 We went out in
one day and wrecked a government

2199
02:07:43,079 --> 02:07:46,859
car, things like that. The
President clearly did not ask

2200
02:07:46,859 --> 02:07:50,339
questions about his staff didn't
before he was nominated. And

2201
02:07:50,429 --> 02:07:53,609
this just creates chaos at at
the most important job. Here's

2202
02:07:53,639 --> 02:07:56,309
how do you take care of 9
million veterans and they have

2203
02:07:56,309 --> 02:08:00,869
injected this chaos into the
whole upper management of the

2204
02:08:00,989 --> 02:08:05,009
the VA and there is, you know,
there is a leaderless

2205
02:08:05,039 --> 02:08:08,849
institution now a leaderless
agency that takes care of 9

2206
02:08:08,849 --> 02:08:09,839
million veterans.

2207
02:08:09,959 --> 02:08:12,239
I should point out that Dr.
Jackson told reporters at the

2208
02:08:12,239 --> 02:08:15,779
White House this afternoon that
he denies wrecking a car. And he

2209
02:08:15,779 --> 02:08:18,359
also said that that's easy to
check. And he's moving forward

2210
02:08:18,359 --> 02:08:21,659
with his nomination. He said
there was also allegations in

2211
02:08:21,659 --> 02:08:26,099
the in the summary that he was
prescribing Percocet and opioid

2212
02:08:26,369 --> 02:08:29,639
or to people in the White House
staff and that they were having

2213
02:08:29,639 --> 02:08:35,039
trouble tracking it. In the
White House medical office. We

2214
02:08:35,039 --> 02:08:35,249
hear

2215
02:08:35,250 --> 02:08:39,090
all these things we we see this
corroborated by a number of

2216
02:08:39,090 --> 02:08:40,770
people again 23 people.

2217
02:08:40,890 --> 02:08:43,200
Wow, what's the 23? Bro?

2218
02:08:44,370 --> 02:08:45,780
What's the 23 people?

2219
02:08:45,870 --> 02:08:46,890
And what's the big deal? I

2220
02:08:46,890 --> 02:08:50,550
think this goes back to the
talking points theories, where

2221
02:08:50,550 --> 02:08:54,000
you list a specific number it
makes it sound authoritative.

2222
02:08:54,000 --> 02:09:00,570
97% Exactly. 23 people 23 people
and then he goes on again about

2223
02:09:00,570 --> 02:09:02,010
these 2317

2224
02:09:02,010 --> 02:09:06,270
agencies 17 intelligence
agencies. Yeah. 97% of

2225
02:09:06,270 --> 02:09:10,500
scientists 20 people, okay, and
the point so it's a professional

2226
02:09:10,530 --> 02:09:14,550
matches. It says chaos over and
over again, this part of the

2227
02:09:14,550 --> 02:09:18,930
anti Trump Trump rotation, Trump
rotation chaos, chaos, chaos,

2228
02:09:18,930 --> 02:09:23,820
chaos. And they I don't know why
they're gonna have this guy. I

2229
02:09:23,820 --> 02:09:25,980
mean, he probably pissed
somebody off somewhere along the

2230
02:09:25,980 --> 02:09:29,160
lines and that one person is in
that top group of 23. If there

2231
02:09:29,160 --> 02:09:32,730
even are 23 they never named
them. So let's go back to part

2232
02:09:32,730 --> 02:09:33,060
two.

2233
02:09:33,299 --> 02:09:36,929
We see this corroborated by a
number of people again, 23

2234
02:09:36,929 --> 02:09:42,179
people, military, active duty or
retired military or veterans who

2235
02:09:42,179 --> 02:09:45,989
have moved on to other things.
If spoken about these issues,

2236
02:09:45,989 --> 02:09:49,709
this whole host of issues. They
have credibility. We want to get

2237
02:09:49,709 --> 02:09:52,919
to the bottom of it. But what's
clear here is the White House.

2238
02:09:53,069 --> 02:09:56,069
First they fired Dr. Shulkin
because they they wanted to

2239
02:09:56,129 --> 02:09:59,969
politically they wanted to
politicize the VA and privatize

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02:09:59,999 --> 02:10:03,689
In the President seems to go
along with the Koch brothers and

2241
02:10:03,689 --> 02:10:07,289
others against what every
veterans group that's spoken out

2242
02:10:07,289 --> 02:10:08,519
about it says, and

2243
02:10:09,840 --> 02:10:15,120
I had to stop there because he's
got to be the host of issues

2244
02:10:15,150 --> 02:10:18,000
that don't say what they are,
except a wreck in the car and

2245
02:10:18,060 --> 02:10:23,580
being drunk all the time. Right.
Then he gratuitously throws in

2246
02:10:23,610 --> 02:10:27,750
an old bromide. The Koch
brothers. Yeah,

2247
02:10:27,780 --> 02:10:28,590
it's interesting.

2248
02:10:28,980 --> 02:10:32,520
It's interesting because the
Koch brothers hate Trump. They

2249
02:10:32,520 --> 02:10:35,280
fought against Trump. They
didn't want Trump to get in. I

2250
02:10:35,280 --> 02:10:38,460
think they were supporting Jeb
Bush never gave him any money

2251
02:10:38,460 --> 02:10:41,490
along with US Citizens United,
which I'm surprised he doesn't

2252
02:10:41,490 --> 02:10:46,410
drop that in there. These are
old Democrat bromides, the Koch

2253
02:10:46,410 --> 02:10:50,760
brothers. And when he throws
that in concrete, Trump and the

2254
02:10:50,760 --> 02:10:54,300
Koch brothers are about polar
opposites on almost everything.

2255
02:10:54,540 --> 02:10:58,110
So this is bulk but when they
said they're very concerned, let

2256
02:10:58,110 --> 02:11:03,270
me okay, yes, I understand your
concern. But regardless of what

2257
02:11:03,270 --> 02:11:07,050
is happening, or what this guy
did or didn't do, why is this

2258
02:11:07,050 --> 02:11:11,220
just to is this just a really
pathetic ploy? Just to make

2259
02:11:11,220 --> 02:11:15,480
Trump look like he's an idiot?
Is that the idea that exactly in

2260
02:11:15,480 --> 02:11:18,090
a ruin this guy by the way,
Michael Flynn got exonerated

2261
02:11:18,090 --> 02:11:23,970
from any collusion. Of course
his life ruined. Yeah. She's

2262
02:11:24,300 --> 02:11:27,930
gonna ruin this guy. Is it black
guy to know he's not

2263
02:11:28,410 --> 02:11:31,230
the admiral. No, is

2264
02:11:31,530 --> 02:11:34,830
No, he's not to photos. Doctor
was a black guy. No, is that

2265
02:11:34,830 --> 02:11:38,850
dead? Dead smooth talking guy.
White guys been in there? You

2266
02:11:38,850 --> 02:11:40,650
know, Obama's not gonna have a
black. Dr.

2267
02:11:41,520 --> 02:11:46,290
Hale. What's it? What's his name
again? Something Jackson, Ronnie

2268
02:11:46,290 --> 02:11:48,360
Jackson. Ronnie

2269
02:11:48,360 --> 02:11:50,280
Jackson, why did I think it was
a black guy.

2270
02:11:50,700 --> 02:11:52,980
But our white has died because
you're thinking of you thinking

2271
02:11:52,980 --> 02:11:55,860
of probably the neurosurgeon.

2272
02:11:57,240 --> 02:11:58,890
Okay, this is a very white guy.

2273
02:11:59,309 --> 02:12:02,039
Well, that's just problem.
That's his problem.

2274
02:12:02,099 --> 02:12:04,439
Yeah, he's a black guy. But
yeah, you're right. There's some

2275
02:12:04,439 --> 02:12:06,509
truth to that if he was a black
guy, there's no chance they're

2276
02:12:06,509 --> 02:12:08,969
gonna do this. Probably not.
Let's go. Let's go into more

2277
02:12:08,969 --> 02:12:10,259
bullshit number three,

2278
02:12:10,500 --> 02:12:13,770
against what every veterans
group that's spoken out about it

2279
02:12:13,770 --> 02:12:18,600
says in the Veterans Group Life
in the VFW that and that's the

2280
02:12:18,630 --> 02:12:21,930
Disabled American vets the
Paralyzed that all of them

2281
02:12:21,930 --> 02:12:24,750
oppose privatization of VA
because they know, of course,

2282
02:12:24,750 --> 02:12:28,200
people on top that make money
from this private company but

2283
02:12:28,200 --> 02:12:31,260
veterans health services. And
it's not.

2284
02:12:31,860 --> 02:12:35,460
This is not about privatization.
But he changes the subject and

2285
02:12:35,460 --> 02:12:39,810
kind of miss mixes the two ideas
that this Jackson guy and

2286
02:12:39,810 --> 02:12:42,960
privatization all the one of the
same so that the names these

2287
02:12:42,960 --> 02:12:45,660
veteran groups, as if the
veteran groups are against this,

2288
02:12:45,690 --> 02:12:46,770
okay, I got very,

2289
02:12:46,889 --> 02:12:51,779
no, here's, here's what's going
on. This, we know the Veterans

2290
02:12:51,779 --> 02:12:55,289
Group is a huge group, and I'm
pretty sure a lot of them voted

2291
02:12:55,289 --> 02:13:00,989
for Trump, because he is all
about the military. This is this

2292
02:13:00,989 --> 02:13:04,559
is a feeble attempt to win over
the hearts and minds of vets by

2293
02:13:04,559 --> 02:13:09,389
saying your President and his
administration don't care about

2294
02:13:09,389 --> 02:13:14,969
you. They put a drunk in charge.
Look how stupid they are. Yeah,

2295
02:13:15,300 --> 02:13:17,670
I think you're right. Let's go
with this finish clip three,

2296
02:13:18,120 --> 02:13:22,140
veterans health services. And
morality agency always suffers

2297
02:13:22,140 --> 02:13:25,920
when you do that. So you start
with that. But now then the then

2298
02:13:25,920 --> 02:13:29,850
there's more chaos injected
here. Because there's no backup

2299
02:13:29,850 --> 02:13:33,570
plan. And I'm gonna talk to
people that work at the

2300
02:13:33,570 --> 02:13:36,360
Cincinnati VA or the Dayton VA
or the Chillicothe, your

2301
02:13:36,360 --> 02:13:39,840
Cleveland VAs or the community
based outpatient clinics in Lima

2302
02:13:39,840 --> 02:13:43,920
in Mansfield, Ohio. They tell
you, we just want a VA. That's

2303
02:13:43,950 --> 02:13:48,120
it's got a stable management
that does predictable things,

2304
02:13:48,210 --> 02:13:52,800
instead of this chaos with no
chaos in sight, as Dr. Jackson

2305
02:13:52,800 --> 02:13:55,740
continues to found her and
people in both parties keep

2306
02:13:55,740 --> 02:13:58,230
asking questions at the White
House never asked.

2307
02:13:58,500 --> 02:14:02,400
Okay, now there it is. Yeah. And
he's using an old meme. Why is

2308
02:14:02,400 --> 02:14:05,880
he I mean, he should be used
some. Is this this his own thing

2309
02:14:06,210 --> 02:14:09,420
that I think shared is a drunk.
He's drunk.

2310
02:14:10,590 --> 02:14:14,340
I'm curious now about these 23
people. Do we ever talk about

2311
02:14:14,340 --> 02:14:15,720
who they are? Is there any

2312
02:14:15,810 --> 02:14:18,330
brings it up again, one more
time in the last clip. Now the

2313
02:14:18,330 --> 02:14:22,020
short clip. But this time he
goes into listen carefully,

2314
02:14:22,230 --> 02:14:25,230
where he says one thing and then
kindly says, Well, I know how

2315
02:14:25,230 --> 02:14:27,960
the White House says I've been
there. I've been there. Why not?

2316
02:14:27,960 --> 02:14:32,100
Really? I've never really been
there. But it's unbelievable.

2317
02:14:32,100 --> 02:14:33,150
This character's vetting

2318
02:14:33,150 --> 02:14:35,340
some of these nominee I'm
concerned that they're vetting

2319
02:14:35,340 --> 02:14:38,730
at all. I mean, from From my
observations up close. I've been

2320
02:14:38,730 --> 02:14:41,130
in the White House a number of
times. I've watched them up

2321
02:14:41,130 --> 02:14:45,810
close. I've seen their
nomination process. Pretty

2322
02:14:45,810 --> 02:14:48,270
close. I mean, I'm not at the
White House watching the do the

2323
02:14:48,270 --> 02:14:52,110
nomination. What happens if the
president finds has an idea of

2324
02:14:52,110 --> 02:14:56,460
somebody usually based on
likability and loyalty, loyalty

2325
02:14:56,460 --> 02:14:59,640
to the president, not
necessarily to the people this

2326
02:14:59,670 --> 02:15:04,710
cap But agency person might. The
person they might serve like the

2327
02:15:04,710 --> 02:15:09,390
veterans. He likes them. He
finds them loyal. He says he

2328
02:15:09,390 --> 02:15:12,960
wants to nominate them and they
move without staff saying wait a

2329
02:15:12,960 --> 02:15:15,660
minute, Mr. President, like they
always say another other White

2330
02:15:15,660 --> 02:15:18,780
House. Wait a minute, we need to
make a lot of calls to find out

2331
02:15:18,840 --> 02:15:23,400
his background. If there's any
problems looking for six years,

2332
02:15:23,400 --> 02:15:27,450
you should shoes or performance
issues. These 23 people we

2333
02:15:27,450 --> 02:15:31,080
talked to, apparently none or
very few of them. Were ever

2334
02:15:31,080 --> 02:15:33,210
called by the White House
quickly, senator to duck.

2335
02:15:33,510 --> 02:15:36,510
Okay, hold on a second. What's
this? What's this Jim oaks,

2336
02:15:36,510 --> 02:15:39,120
Nate. I know you can talk to so
what's his name is Jared brown

2337
02:15:39,120 --> 02:15:45,720
SHA some. He says that 23 people
and these 20 these 23 people now

2338
02:15:45,720 --> 02:15:49,410
have been taken to some level of
you know, some, some height, the

2339
02:15:49,410 --> 02:15:54,270
pantheon of 23 people. And
apparently, except a couple of

2340
02:15:54,270 --> 02:15:56,910
he says none of them were ever
content. Well, a couple of them

2341
02:15:56,910 --> 02:16:00,570
were he keeps backing off ons
half of this stuff. None of them

2342
02:16:00,570 --> 02:16:04,620
are content. Well, a couple of
more. But who are these people

2343
02:16:04,620 --> 02:16:07,260
that they be contacted in the
first place? He says they're

2344
02:16:07,260 --> 02:16:10,080
veterans of some sort, that
maybe they've moved on to other

2345
02:16:10,080 --> 02:16:12,930
things. It could be janitors for
all we know. But you know,

2346
02:16:12,930 --> 02:16:18,000
somebody's bitchy. I can't
believe this. Luckily, that the

2347
02:16:18,030 --> 02:16:23,820
Asian guy who's on PBS Newshour
is was not happy with this guy's

2348
02:16:23,820 --> 02:16:27,480
performance. Brown cutting them
off. Brown

2349
02:16:27,480 --> 02:16:31,080
was vetted as it's Jared J. E.
RR OD,

2350
02:16:31,500 --> 02:16:33,660
Brian. They always present
Sherrod.

2351
02:16:33,780 --> 02:16:36,900
No, he was vetted as a potential
vice presidential running mate

2352
02:16:36,900 --> 02:16:40,530
for Hillary Clinton in 2016. The
choice ultimately came down to

2353
02:16:40,530 --> 02:16:43,410
brown and Tim Kaine who was
selected as Clinton's running

2354
02:16:43,410 --> 02:16:46,230
mate. Yeah, it would came was
more gay, so it was better

2355
02:16:46,260 --> 02:16:47,460
Brown, one of Bernie

2356
02:16:47,460 --> 02:16:50,820
Sanders closest allies in the US
Senate endorsed Clinton and

2357
02:16:50,820 --> 02:16:54,840
campaign for her prior to the
2016 Democratic primary in Ohio.

2358
02:16:56,250 --> 02:16:59,550
Washington Monthly suggested
that as a potential presidential

2359
02:16:59,550 --> 02:17:03,360
candidate in 2020, brown could
unite the establishment and

2360
02:17:03,360 --> 02:17:06,240
progressive wings of the
Democratic Party.

2361
02:17:07,380 --> 02:17:08,190
There you go.

2362
02:17:08,519 --> 02:17:11,309
He's ramping up. Hey, I would
give

2363
02:17:11,310 --> 02:17:16,050
this a shot. He can't express
himself. Well, let's

2364
02:17:16,050 --> 02:17:18,090
see what let's let's look at his
background. Hold on.

2365
02:17:18,840 --> 02:17:19,380
Uh huh.

2366
02:17:19,859 --> 02:17:22,469
He's a doctor son. This is
really where it all starts.

2367
02:17:22,529 --> 02:17:25,829
Brown was in Mansfield, Ohio,
the son of Emily and Charles

2368
02:17:25,829 --> 02:17:30,119
Gailey Brown, MD. He was named
after his maternal grandfather

2369
02:17:30,119 --> 02:17:33,959
became an Eagle Scout. We Oh, we
love our Eagle Scouts.

2370
02:17:33,990 --> 02:17:37,440
I think Eagle Scouts are high. I
respect that

2371
02:17:37,469 --> 02:17:41,159
in 1967 he became an Eagle
Scout. Holy crap. How

2372
02:17:41,160 --> 02:17:43,050
old is the guy he was 40 at the
time, so

2373
02:17:44,219 --> 02:17:47,909
I received a Bachelor of Arts
degree in Russian studies from

2374
02:17:47,939 --> 02:17:50,309
real university in 74.

2375
02:17:50,699 --> 02:17:54,719
I went to Yale study Russian he
spoke live he actually has the

2376
02:17:54,719 --> 02:17:56,969
voice of kind of a spook. He
lived

2377
02:17:56,969 --> 02:18:01,259
in Davenport College. While in
college, brown volunteered for

2378
02:18:01,259 --> 02:18:04,739
liberal politicians such as
George McGovern, and went on to

2379
02:18:04,739 --> 02:18:07,529
receive a Master of Arts degree
in education and a Master of

2380
02:18:07,529 --> 02:18:10,979
Public Administration. Degree
from Ohio State University in

2381
02:18:10,979 --> 02:18:14,279
Columbus respectively. He taught
the Mansfield branch campus of

2382
02:18:14,279 --> 02:18:17,369
Ohio State University, he
backpacked in India during the

2383
02:18:17,369 --> 02:18:20,909
State of Emergency imposed by
Prime Minister Indira Gandhi.

2384
02:18:21,930 --> 02:18:23,190
Oh, backpacker.

2385
02:18:24,780 --> 02:18:27,930
Well, we know they're all
spooks. You know, backpacker

2386
02:18:27,960 --> 02:18:30,900
wanders off. Oh, I'm in North
Korea all of a sudden, oh, I'm

2387
02:18:30,900 --> 02:18:35,250
in I'm an Indian. Iran. Oh, I'm
in India during the state of

2388
02:18:35,250 --> 02:18:38,610
emergency. He's making a run.
You've probably watched this.

2389
02:18:38,610 --> 02:18:43,410
I'll get this guy. Oh, I can do
this. I'm Gerrard. Brown,

2390
02:18:43,559 --> 02:18:47,099
dammit. Don't you think that's
how it went down?

2391
02:18:48,629 --> 02:18:51,719
It's possible that when I mean
it's definitely your analysis is

2392
02:18:51,719 --> 02:18:57,449
absolutely correct. But whether
went down like that, I wonder at

2393
02:18:57,449 --> 02:18:59,699
the cocktail. I've been told to
do this, because he's so

2394
02:18:59,699 --> 02:19:03,419
nervous. And his waist as well.
You know, I was in the White. I

2395
02:19:03,419 --> 02:19:05,639
know how they do this. But
although I've never been there.

2396
02:19:05,909 --> 02:19:08,669
I mean, they just can't express
himself very well.

2397
02:19:09,539 --> 02:19:11,159
That's good. That's good.

2398
02:19:12,600 --> 02:19:15,120
All right. Hey, those of you who
are listening to us. I hope you

2399
02:19:15,120 --> 02:19:17,460
found us on Google's new podcast
player.

2400
02:19:18,000 --> 02:19:19,200
Tell me how it works.

2401
02:19:20,040 --> 02:19:22,530
Do you have an Android right?
You should take a look. Let me

2402
02:19:22,530 --> 02:19:26,220
know how it looks. Apparently
you just do no agenda. And then

2403
02:19:26,220 --> 02:19:30,120
it pops up our show in a in a
web based player apparently.

2404
02:19:30,540 --> 02:19:35,520
I doubt it. Yeah. And they have
recommendations. Based on

2405
02:19:35,550 --> 02:19:39,300
pot here. They're also telling
you to get to add special tags.

2406
02:19:39,300 --> 02:19:42,420
They said they're optional, but
please. Now you gotta you gotta

2407
02:19:42,420 --> 02:19:47,640
add Google podcast tags to your
RSS feed, so they'll know how to

2408
02:19:47,640 --> 02:19:51,120
surface it. Girl, please guys
are eight holes.

2409
02:19:51,600 --> 02:19:54,930
I'm gonna show my school by
donation to no agenda. Imagine

2410
02:19:54,930 --> 02:19:57,630
all the people who could do
that. Oh yeah, that'd be fun.

2411
02:20:00,000 --> 02:20:07,530
Are we do some people think I
don't know if the lead in with

2412
02:20:07,530 --> 02:20:10,890
these guys are a holes are
necessarily the best way

2413
02:20:10,920 --> 02:20:12,810
I had no other transition.

2414
02:20:13,439 --> 02:20:17,279
But that's what we've got. We
live with what we have grabbed

2415
02:20:17,279 --> 02:20:24,839
Milan gerbil on revelon His end
with $123.45 He says still on

2416
02:20:24,839 --> 02:20:27,389
board. I'm just going to read
his note. He's been around

2417
02:20:28,349 --> 02:20:31,139
celebrating a birthday today we
have on the list recommend the

2418
02:20:31,139 --> 02:20:35,339
TV series Philip K Dixon
Electric Dreams based on

2419
02:20:35,339 --> 02:20:40,769
historic short stories by Dick
your decor unrelated episodes

2420
02:20:40,769 --> 02:20:43,319
Black Mirror style with many no
agenda topics.

2421
02:20:43,350 --> 02:20:46,410
Okay, I'll watch that. Dicks
Electric Dreams and write down.

2422
02:20:47,220 --> 02:20:52,620
The best episode is the last one
called Kill all others. That's

2423
02:20:52,620 --> 02:20:55,710
about a no agenda guy who's
walking around woke in a

2424
02:20:55,710 --> 02:20:59,340
sleeping world nice. It's not
ending well for you.

2425
02:21:00,390 --> 02:21:01,620
Oh, not so nice.

2426
02:21:02,099 --> 02:21:05,159
What do you expect? Yeah, of
course. That's why we tell

2427
02:21:05,159 --> 02:21:08,339
people to shut up. Mark Hall.

2428
02:21:08,400 --> 02:21:11,820
Hey, Mark Hall are
documentarian. Yes. The famous

2429
02:21:11,820 --> 02:21:12,420
Mark Hall

2430
02:21:12,630 --> 02:21:15,990
honors dollars and 66 cents and
he's got a happy birthday, John,

2431
02:21:16,020 --> 02:21:16,860
belated birthday.

2432
02:21:16,860 --> 02:21:19,740
Oh, that's why the 66 cents.
Yeah.

2433
02:21:19,769 --> 02:21:20,699
Oh, that's nice.

2434
02:21:21,210 --> 02:21:24,720
I appreciate it. We have a few
$100 donor Sophia. I'm

2435
02:21:24,720 --> 02:21:28,530
gonna read his note. Okay. The
Happy belated birthday, John the

2436
02:21:28,530 --> 02:21:32,670
show sounds very plush. Since
Adam made the upgrade to Windows

2437
02:21:32,670 --> 02:21:39,450
XP. Oh, it's NT 3.0 running that
suite and DOS really nice swag.

2438
02:21:39,450 --> 02:21:44,220
Redmond code. Good work fellows.
You know, that's so much.

2439
02:21:44,490 --> 02:21:47,490
That's a Mac guy. That's a Mac
guy being snide.

2440
02:21:47,609 --> 02:21:53,939
It's Mark Hall. Like, hey, I
love you dick. Nice.

2441
02:21:54,060 --> 02:21:58,290
I like plushies the sound away
to hear my new valve Mike do

2442
02:21:58,290 --> 02:22:00,330
your valve mic will be plush.

2443
02:22:00,690 --> 02:22:03,900
There'll be plush I think plush
may be a word Millennials can't

2444
02:22:03,900 --> 02:22:11,070
stand. I'll ask you know certain
words that AirCam like flesh

2445
02:22:11,100 --> 02:22:15,720
flesh that a lot of people
can't. Ah, I don't know but

2446
02:22:15,750 --> 02:22:19,830
plush, plush, plush,

2447
02:22:19,860 --> 02:22:22,170
plush flesh and any other flesh.
Yeah, there's

2448
02:22:22,170 --> 02:22:23,460
a couple of them for

2449
02:22:23,460 --> 02:22:24,300
mench.

2450
02:22:26,190 --> 02:22:27,930
Moist, moist,

2451
02:22:28,020 --> 02:22:30,930
moist moist moist thing is
bullcrap moist lot

2452
02:22:30,930 --> 02:22:36,000
of peat caulk is supposed to all
women hate the word. Moist. calc

2453
02:22:36,030 --> 02:22:47,880
crunchy. Now onward we reset
this thing. We got Sophia penned

2454
02:22:47,880 --> 02:22:48,630
the layup.

2455
02:22:49,950 --> 02:22:52,530
Oh, you gotta read Sofia's note,
just a little bit of it there.

2456
02:22:52,950 --> 02:22:58,140
Your show is like a breath of
fresh air. Amid mass insanity

2457
02:22:58,230 --> 02:23:02,460
that goes on around here I've
stopped following news A while

2458
02:23:02,460 --> 02:23:06,150
back because I couldn't stand it
mass hysteria and bias. And

2459
02:23:06,150 --> 02:23:09,480
because the media outlets can't
be trusted.

2460
02:23:10,590 --> 02:23:11,940
Being a former Russian

2461
02:23:13,290 --> 02:23:18,540
and then Israeli citizen I have
long ago learn to mistrust media

2462
02:23:18,540 --> 02:23:21,360
sources or ignore them
altogether. So that comes

2463
02:23:21,360 --> 02:23:24,960
naturally I admit. But thanks to
you, I'm finally back to being

2464
02:23:25,020 --> 02:23:28,710
updated on what's going on in
the world. I have been listening

2465
02:23:28,710 --> 02:23:31,740
to your show for past two
months. And this is finally my

2466
02:23:31,740 --> 02:23:36,510
first donation. As a single lady
surrounded by millennial tech

2467
02:23:36,510 --> 02:23:39,420
drones of Silicon Valley. I
would like to ask for

2468
02:23:39,420 --> 02:23:41,730
relationship girl puts Lulu that
I'm gonna

2469
02:23:41,730 --> 02:23:44,220
give that to she needs this is
this is a woman in a very

2470
02:23:44,220 --> 02:23:46,800
precarious situation. We're
giving her karma now.

2471
02:23:48,240 --> 02:23:50,190
karma karma button guy?

2472
02:23:50,670 --> 02:23:53,280
Well, you know, I spoke with a
buddy of mine. His wife is

2473
02:23:53,280 --> 02:23:56,910
Russian. She's a doctor spoke
with me yesterday and and I

2474
02:23:56,910 --> 02:23:59,160
said, Hey, what do you what do
you do walking around and I

2475
02:23:59,160 --> 02:24:03,000
mean, I've locked up you Russian
spy. And so she knows me. She's

2476
02:24:03,000 --> 02:24:05,730
laughing. She's actually from
Siberia? And she says, You know,

2477
02:24:05,730 --> 02:24:07,890
it's interesting. You say that
because anyone I talked to these

2478
02:24:07,890 --> 02:24:10,680
days, they never bring up the
spy thing. They always say

2479
02:24:10,710 --> 02:24:14,640
aren't Oh, Russians prostitutes
are gangsters. Like, wow, that's

2480
02:24:14,640 --> 02:24:18,420
interesting. Interesting change.
Yeah. And I apologized on behalf

2481
02:24:18,420 --> 02:24:18,540
of

2482
02:24:20,160 --> 02:24:21,840
the United Nations of Gitmo
land.

2483
02:24:22,680 --> 02:24:25,740
Michelle Winton comes here with
100 bucks and says that she gave

2484
02:24:25,740 --> 02:24:30,300
100 bucks because of that poor
pitiful puppy. Thank you. It

2485
02:24:30,300 --> 02:24:31,860
always brings in about $100

2486
02:24:32,010 --> 02:24:33,660
Oh, yeah, it's $100 pump.

2487
02:24:34,470 --> 02:24:35,460
Yes with honor.

2488
02:24:35,970 --> 02:24:41,190
Sir Timothy have no fixed title
and Plymouth, Michigan $100. Ah,

2489
02:24:41,190 --> 02:24:44,490
he says he makes a tribute to
Nick dots for DS mother who

2490
02:24:44,490 --> 02:24:45,990
passed away I'm sorry.

2491
02:24:47,490 --> 02:24:50,730
She and Nicole. she and Nick
wood. It's one of our listeners

2492
02:24:50,730 --> 02:24:53,310
to John chi and Nick would often
listen to the show together.

2493
02:24:53,640 --> 02:24:56,370
Nick and his brothers and his
brother are steadfast members of

2494
02:24:56,370 --> 02:24:59,190
Michigan local one. And in lieu
of flowers. I would like to

2495
02:24:59,190 --> 02:25:01,770
support the show as tribute to
their mom sir Timothy of no

2496
02:25:01,770 --> 02:25:03,900
fixed title Plymouth Michigan
Thank you very much and we're

2497
02:25:03,900 --> 02:25:04,620
sorry to hear that.

2498
02:25:04,890 --> 02:25:11,010
They're having meetups all the
time. Jesse rubrail has a poop

2499
02:25:11,010 --> 02:25:14,460
donation nine. Oh dot o nine. Oh

2500
02:25:14,460 --> 02:25:15,360
okay.

2501
02:25:15,780 --> 02:25:16,710
Which is poop

2502
02:25:16,770 --> 02:25:20,460
that's a fantastic number. Yeah
9009 Poop.

2503
02:25:22,050 --> 02:25:24,660
Steven Hutto we need to drink
even I think it's St.

2504
02:25:24,660 --> 02:25:29,550
Petersburg, Florida 880 80 chip
number. It's kind of cool. Dan

2505
02:25:29,550 --> 02:25:32,730
Pinkerton 808 Daniel,

2506
02:25:32,760 --> 02:25:33,900
let's hope boob.

2507
02:25:35,040 --> 02:25:39,510
Boob is also boob 808 kale in
this store in Northville,

2508
02:25:39,540 --> 02:25:46,080
Michigan 6776 or cows. Lucas
Lundy in Tacoma, Washington.

2509
02:25:46,080 --> 02:25:54,030
6432. And Joel Nelson six 6008
which is a small lopsided boob.

2510
02:25:54,240 --> 02:25:56,850
This is a nice combo. Yeah,

2511
02:25:56,880 --> 02:26:00,180
I've been wanting to put it on
the list of the master list was

2512
02:26:00,180 --> 02:26:02,550
hitting the mouth my coworker
marker on Christmas of last

2513
02:26:02,550 --> 02:26:06,930
year. This is my first donation.
Thank you. The EXPOs a on the M

2514
02:26:06,930 --> 02:26:10,290
five M and journalism as on a
whole cannot be found as a

2515
02:26:10,290 --> 02:26:14,760
package anywhere else. Keep up.
And don't forget our comp

2516
02:26:14,760 --> 02:26:15,780
comedic stylings.

2517
02:26:17,010 --> 02:26:23,850
David Walsh 5555 which is some
it's I guess it's 7621 in

2518
02:26:23,850 --> 02:26:24,570
Australia.

2519
02:26:25,140 --> 02:26:29,040
Yes. And today is today's hug an
Australian day, John. I forgot

2520
02:26:29,040 --> 02:26:30,480
to mention that. Yes,

2521
02:26:30,480 --> 02:26:32,040
it was in the newsletter X. Yes,

2522
02:26:32,070 --> 02:26:34,860
though. Well, that's why I'm
bringing it up again. Hugs

2523
02:26:34,950 --> 02:26:36,120
hugging Australian.

2524
02:26:36,870 --> 02:26:39,540
It's also I think, good Jelly
Bean there. Maybe that was last

2525
02:26:39,540 --> 02:26:45,030
show. Andy Ben's 5424 We got a
birthday shout out. I think he's

2526
02:26:45,030 --> 02:26:47,310
listed. She's listed. Violin,

2527
02:26:47,820 --> 02:26:52,590
Andy. Oh, no, I don't think this
is in here. What do you see? Oh,

2528
02:26:53,610 --> 02:26:58,260
yes. Violet. We don't have that
link. Put that in right away.

2529
02:26:58,290 --> 02:27:02,580
Go ahead. Continue. Chris
Sundberg. In Mercer Island,

2530
02:27:02,580 --> 02:27:09,930
Washington. 51. Sir DH Slammer
buddy there. And $50.13 It was a

2531
02:27:09,930 --> 02:27:13,230
goat scream at the end. And that
falling people are $50 donors,

2532
02:27:13,230 --> 02:27:18,030
Matthew Yoder and Albany,
Oregon. James butcher in Dallas,

2533
02:27:18,060 --> 02:27:23,790
lino, Australia, Western
Australia. Mitchell Kaufman in

2534
02:27:23,790 --> 02:27:28,320
Hillsboro, Oregon, Kenneth
Lindbergh in Miami, Florida.

2535
02:27:28,770 --> 02:27:34,530
Erin havens in Spring, Texas.
Louis Ferreira, Newbury,

2536
02:27:34,560 --> 02:27:37,740
Berkshire, UK. Niels Banneker

2537
02:27:38,550 --> 02:27:40,050
sir Jose Ferreira.

2538
02:27:41,970 --> 02:27:47,850
What did I say, Louis? I said,
Louis. Yeah. What's Jose? Well,

2539
02:27:47,850 --> 02:27:49,920
here's the Louis Louis pet
store.

2540
02:27:51,510 --> 02:27:56,550
Founder of the ALPA store taco
in Miami, Florida. Sure, Eric V.

2541
02:27:56,550 --> 02:28:01,170
M Baronet of the valley in Van
Nuys, California. Sure. Craig

2542
02:28:01,200 --> 02:28:07,920
50. Alexa Delgado in Aptos,
California anonymous $50 In Sir

2543
02:28:07,920 --> 02:28:12,000
Alan being last but not least,
our regular monthly donor by

2544
02:28:12,000 --> 02:28:14,700
cheque from Oakland, California
want to thank all these folks

2545
02:28:14,700 --> 02:28:19,470
for helping us out and
contributing to show 1028

2546
02:28:19,500 --> 02:28:23,460
Yes, and anonymous wanted some M
five M interview job karma, we

2547
02:28:23,460 --> 02:28:25,950
have that packaged up and ready
for you. And I'm not sure if I

2548
02:28:26,220 --> 02:28:29,520
if we forgot to mention Sam
Godwin in San Jose, because

2549
02:28:29,520 --> 02:28:32,520
we're still looking at. We
talked about hug the Australian

2550
02:28:32,520 --> 02:28:35,820
day. So these are all the donors
$50. and above, underneath our

2551
02:28:35,820 --> 02:28:37,980
executive and Associate
Executive Producers our value

2552
02:28:37,980 --> 02:28:41,160
for value model, the only way it
works is if you participate in

2553
02:28:41,160 --> 02:28:43,950
supporting us. You can do it in
a number of ways. This one is

2554
02:28:43,950 --> 02:28:46,440
obviously very important. We
appreciate all the support,

2555
02:28:46,440 --> 02:28:50,100
especially people came in under
50 for anonymity, or won one of

2556
02:28:50,100 --> 02:28:53,730
our many many programs. And
we're now going to add poop to

2557
02:28:53,730 --> 02:28:56,700
it I guess as well on the on the
on the main donation page,

2558
02:28:56,910 --> 02:29:00,990
correct? Yes, yeah.

2559
02:29:01,500 --> 02:29:09,450
Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's
vote for jobs. You've got

2560
02:29:20,010 --> 02:29:23,520
nice news for today. Warren
Sundquist is celebrating today.

2561
02:29:23,520 --> 02:29:26,940
In fact, sir Kelly Swanberg says
Happy Birthday to Dame Andrea

2562
02:29:26,940 --> 02:29:31,800
Swanberg Revlon celebrates his
birthday today Daniel Cook will

2563
02:29:31,800 --> 02:29:35,400
be 33 Tomorrow Andy Benzes.
Happy first day and welcome to

2564
02:29:35,400 --> 02:29:39,540
his new daughter human resource
violet TBD and Sir DH Slammers

2565
02:29:39,540 --> 02:29:42,540
is Happy Birthday to Lady
Simona. She celebrated yesterday

2566
02:29:42,540 --> 02:29:44,910
and we say happy birthday as
well. Well, I'm your buddies

2567
02:29:44,910 --> 02:29:57,210
here the best podcast in the
universe don't want to be a

2568
02:29:57,210 --> 02:30:00,780
douchebag Mr. Craig came in with
a $50 Today and he also

2569
02:30:00,780 --> 02:30:07,350
requested a title change so he
becomes sir Craig. The 64649

2570
02:30:07,350 --> 02:30:14,070
inch night. 649 inch night. I
guess that's right. That's what

2571
02:30:14,070 --> 02:30:17,760
it says on my sheet. Does that
sound right? The 649 inch night?

2572
02:30:18,240 --> 02:30:20,610
I don't know. I think there's
just maybe a gag in there. We

2573
02:30:20,610 --> 02:30:21,420
can't figure it out.

2574
02:30:22,350 --> 02:30:27,390
Let me just see if it serves,
you know, six foot now it's six

2575
02:30:27,390 --> 02:30:31,140
foot nine. I was gonna say six
foot nine. And but this is a

2576
02:30:31,290 --> 02:30:37,650
back office misspelled it. So
sir Craig officially becomes the

2577
02:30:37,650 --> 02:30:40,440
six foot nine inch night. Hello.

2578
02:30:40,980 --> 02:30:43,410
That's all Yes. Okay. And he
dunk?

2579
02:30:44,790 --> 02:30:46,050
What's the weather like up
there?

2580
02:30:47,280 --> 02:30:50,100
Yeah, you know, the only
response is it's raining. Yep,

2581
02:30:50,100 --> 02:30:51,840
spit on him and say it's
raining. Did you? Did your

2582
02:30:51,840 --> 02:30:56,610
parents tell you that to what my
parents said, you know, because

2583
02:30:56,610 --> 02:30:59,640
I was tall and very
uncoordinated.

2584
02:31:00,000 --> 02:31:02,400
And this is what all the kids
used to joke about. Yeah.

2585
02:31:03,900 --> 02:31:07,080
But my parents they said well,
if someone pesters you with that

2586
02:31:07,080 --> 02:31:09,990
again spit on him and say it's
really nice. We know it's old

2587
02:31:09,990 --> 02:31:13,830
that gag Yeah. It's not a good
thing to do. By the way, if

2588
02:31:13,830 --> 02:31:15,810
you're tall and lanky and
uncoordinated

2589
02:31:16,470 --> 02:31:19,170
Yeah, you spin on somebody just
punch it. I got punched

2590
02:31:19,170 --> 02:31:23,670
in the face. Yeah, exactly. It's
not the last time I did that

2591
02:31:23,670 --> 02:31:24,210
gag.

2592
02:31:25,140 --> 02:31:28,500
I can't believe you you bought
into it. My parents were cruel.

2593
02:31:28,680 --> 02:31:32,670
I guess so. Talking about the
dirty 30s I got a couple more

2594
02:31:32,670 --> 02:31:33,030
for you.

2595
02:31:33,180 --> 02:31:36,900
Ah the dirty 30s Yes, let's go
okay, yeah,

2596
02:31:36,900 --> 02:31:39,570
what do you think all the way
means?

2597
02:31:40,410 --> 02:31:44,700
All the way means going all the
way home a home run nothing Pat

2598
02:31:44,700 --> 02:31:47,250
Brown three bases and we're it's
penetration time.

2599
02:31:48,060 --> 02:31:50,430
Chocolate Cake or fudge with ice
cream.

2600
02:31:50,790 --> 02:31:53,910
Wookiee do come sorry if that
change somewhere along the

2601
02:31:53,910 --> 02:31:54,480
lines.

2602
02:31:55,170 --> 02:32:02,310
All wet. All wet. Yeah, all wet
here is all wet. Oh, wet means

2603
02:32:02,310 --> 02:32:05,010
he's out of money. No good. It

2604
02:32:05,010 --> 02:32:07,350
means he's no good. He's no
good. Okay, but you're not

2605
02:32:07,350 --> 02:32:11,820
getting any of these now. Ameche
horn blower the blower, the

2606
02:32:11,820 --> 02:32:13,290
blower car, get out.

2607
02:32:13,680 --> 02:32:16,080
The blower you already blew it.
It's the phone I know the blower

2608
02:32:16,080 --> 02:32:17,010
of being a phone. Yeah.

2609
02:32:17,280 --> 02:32:25,530
Okay. Apple, Apple. But any big
town or city? New York being the

2610
02:32:25,530 --> 02:32:26,850
big big apple interesting.

2611
02:32:29,160 --> 02:32:35,280
Baby abroad deaths is the terms
baby broad Dame doll frail twist

2612
02:32:35,310 --> 02:32:37,170
muffin and kitten Xur.

2613
02:32:38,850 --> 02:32:43,920
Baby it's a baby baby is a cute
BSer it's a glass of milk. Oh

2614
02:32:45,090 --> 02:32:49,890
What's it been shooter a get a
rod Rosco a heater a convinced

2615
02:32:49,890 --> 02:32:50,190
her

2616
02:32:54,630 --> 02:32:55,860
a weapon of some sort

2617
02:32:55,980 --> 02:33:00,480
that gun. Yeah. Gun. Get I gotta
get like, Hey, where's your

2618
02:33:00,480 --> 02:33:06,780
Roscoe bring it again? I like I
like Roscoe. Roscoe. Roscoe.

2619
02:33:07,439 --> 02:33:09,749
I'm strapped with my Roscoe bro.

2620
02:33:11,430 --> 02:33:14,160
What's beat beat beat

2621
02:33:14,220 --> 02:33:16,890
beat is your beat is where you
where you walk where? Your

2622
02:33:16,890 --> 02:33:19,620
Neighborhood your place your BS.
You're broke. Oh, you're

2623
02:33:19,620 --> 02:33:24,090
beat beat man. A deadbeat does
very broke. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

2624
02:33:24,660 --> 02:33:25,890
Behind the grind.

2625
02:33:26,190 --> 02:33:31,110
Behind The grind is backstage at
an MTV show.

2626
02:33:31,980 --> 02:33:36,720
Behind in one studies. Okay. Big
House who's Gao?

2627
02:33:36,870 --> 02:33:37,740
Big House. The

2628
02:33:37,740 --> 02:33:41,340
Big House the boss. Who's Gao?

2629
02:33:41,400 --> 02:33:45,960
Who's Gao? I don't know. Who's
got who's Gao prison. Oh, the

2630
02:33:45,960 --> 02:33:49,080
big Oh, okay. Gotcha. The big
house. Yes. I should have known

2631
02:33:49,080 --> 02:33:49,440
that one.

2632
02:33:49,620 --> 02:33:52,050
You should have known that one.
That's one against this minus

2633
02:33:52,050 --> 02:33:59,250
one. bleed. bleed. I'm gonna
bleed him to cut someone know to

2634
02:33:59,250 --> 02:34:00,510
extort or blackmail. Read

2635
02:34:00,510 --> 02:34:04,140
them. rip them off. Yeah. I'm
sucking at this guy. You don't

2636
02:34:04,140 --> 02:34:07,230
you totally blow. Get me on the
blower.

2637
02:34:07,259 --> 02:34:11,369
No, that was the phrase totally
blown. blinkers, lamps, pies,

2638
02:34:11,369 --> 02:34:13,529
shutters peepers saw boobs.

2639
02:34:15,990 --> 02:34:21,120
She's got great peepers says the
I hadn't got one. No, it's eyes.

2640
02:34:21,180 --> 02:34:22,260
Oh, please.

2641
02:34:22,380 --> 02:34:25,710
That's about genders. That's
about boobs. shutters

2642
02:34:26,730 --> 02:34:31,740
and lamps now. Okay. Lamps will
go on to Judas next show. Ready?

2643
02:34:31,770 --> 02:34:33,960
Yeah. Blow your wig

2644
02:34:37,200 --> 02:34:38,880
to get on the plane as a
president.

2645
02:34:41,100 --> 02:34:44,820
It's a good good answer, but it
means become very excited. Yes,

2646
02:34:44,820 --> 02:34:47,460
I thought was to get very mad.
But yeah, blow your top while

2647
02:34:47,460 --> 02:34:48,510
you're awake. I've heard those

2648
02:34:49,230 --> 02:34:53,550
30s We got to get a few of these
back and play. Like Roscoe.

2649
02:34:53,550 --> 02:34:56,760
Roscoe is good. I like that.
Yeah. What else? Give me another

2650
02:34:56,760 --> 02:34:57,060
one.

2651
02:34:58,380 --> 02:34:59,970
All right. I'm annoyed that I
get this wrong.

2652
02:35:00,659 --> 02:35:05,789
Okay, you get this one. Booze
coach giggle juice and mule.

2653
02:35:06,389 --> 02:35:10,229
Wow, that's alcohol. The whiskey
and festivities right. Close

2654
02:35:10,229 --> 02:35:12,449
enough. Yeah. Music Good one.

2655
02:35:12,990 --> 02:35:17,310
You never get this. Brody.

2656
02:35:17,880 --> 02:35:20,790
Brody. You can ask me to use it
in a sentence.

2657
02:35:21,870 --> 02:35:24,810
Could you use the word in a
sentence, please? Yeah, I pulled

2658
02:35:24,810 --> 02:35:30,810
a Brody. Wow. It's like some
massive failure. Ah, right.

2659
02:35:30,810 --> 02:35:32,280
Yeah, but where does it come
from?

2660
02:35:32,430 --> 02:35:33,300
That mistake?

2661
02:35:33,330 --> 02:35:34,350
Where does it come from?

2662
02:35:35,280 --> 02:35:37,530
I don't know. But I always
thought I didn't realize it went

2663
02:35:37,530 --> 02:35:40,620
back to the 30s because I
remember when did you use the

2664
02:35:40,620 --> 02:35:43,260
word Brodie and I always thought
to refer to the 40 Niners

2665
02:35:43,260 --> 02:35:47,190
quarterback in the 50s Okay,
Brody, did you do something

2666
02:35:47,190 --> 02:35:51,090
really bad? No. He used to
always flip run around the field

2667
02:35:51,090 --> 02:35:57,600
they like like he was being
chased by wild dogs now. He was

2668
02:35:57,600 --> 02:36:01,080
known for making making quick U
turns and it was always I always

2669
02:36:01,080 --> 02:36:03,330
thought when they said pull the
Brody I thought that meant just

2670
02:36:03,330 --> 02:36:07,740
turn around and go the other
way. So I was befuddled

2671
02:36:07,740 --> 02:36:12,780
apparently when I was a kid. One
more. One more last one. Okay,

2672
02:36:12,780 --> 02:36:17,970
it's a bunch of them again.
Brunos goons, hatchet men,

2673
02:36:18,000 --> 02:36:20,730
torpedoes and trigger men. Yeah,
well,

2674
02:36:20,730 --> 02:36:23,280
these are foot soldiers of some
mob

2675
02:36:23,610 --> 02:36:26,220
Yeah, yeah. hired gunmen or
other tough guys. How about

2676
02:36:26,250 --> 02:36:28,800
Okay, one last one more just
because you need this one.

2677
02:36:29,820 --> 02:36:36,450
bulge. bulge isn't a sentence.
He's got a bulge. Oh. Got a lot

2678
02:36:36,450 --> 02:36:39,180
of money. Having an advantage.

2679
02:36:40,980 --> 02:36:43,080
Well, that's all men's like
Battle of the Bulge. I guess.

2680
02:36:43,080 --> 02:36:46,620
I'm not sure. Okay. But that's
more that was in the 40s. So

2681
02:36:46,620 --> 02:36:50,550
that couldn't have been Battle
of the Bulge but introduced last

2682
02:36:50,550 --> 02:36:54,060
era. Yes. Well, I tried to bring
some of it back. Well,

2683
02:36:54,060 --> 02:36:59,400
so so far, we have so far we
have as Roscoe Roscoe. I loved

2684
02:36:59,400 --> 02:37:03,750
Roscoe. And I'd like you to find
out where that's from. Get is

2685
02:37:03,750 --> 02:37:06,510
another one. Now I'd like Roscoe
I like Roscoe we can we can

2686
02:37:06,510 --> 02:37:07,170
implement some

2687
02:37:07,170 --> 02:37:11,400
connection between Gatling gun
and gab. Sure there is. Yeah.

2688
02:37:11,820 --> 02:37:12,180
Okay. I'll

2689
02:37:12,180 --> 02:37:13,050
find out Roscoe.

2690
02:37:14,880 --> 02:37:20,730
Milo Yiannopoulos. Da wanted it
all out him. Yeah, he he wanted

2691
02:37:20,730 --> 02:37:25,620
a nice roast. He was with a
friend of his but thinks some

2692
02:37:25,860 --> 02:37:31,020
blog journal. And they had
booked this place in in New York

2693
02:37:31,260 --> 02:37:35,100
on a Sunday. And they wanted to
have a traditional English

2694
02:37:35,100 --> 02:37:37,140
roast, which they make their
which I think you have to book

2695
02:37:37,140 --> 02:37:40,530
that in advance. And they're in
there. And then coincidentally,

2696
02:37:40,530 --> 02:37:44,370
some other group of people who
identified by some name I can't

2697
02:37:44,370 --> 02:37:48,480
remember, which also included a
couple of journals from I think

2698
02:37:48,480 --> 02:37:53,250
one from BuzzFeed and maybe one
from salon. And this is what

2699
02:37:53,250 --> 02:37:56,070
they said to Milo was he was
standing there waiting for his

2700
02:37:56,070 --> 02:38:15,870
table Get out. Get out. Get out.
Get out everybody. Out. Thanks.

2701
02:38:28,350 --> 02:38:29,880
How insane is that?

2702
02:38:30,510 --> 02:38:34,500
That's very insane. What kind of
civility are these people

2703
02:38:34,500 --> 02:38:35,280
exhibiting?

2704
02:38:36,150 --> 02:38:40,230
I mean, first of all, I'm going
to call him a Nazi scum. It just

2705
02:38:40,230 --> 02:38:46,170
doesn't make any sense. It's
just dumb. Yeah, and then it

2706
02:38:46,200 --> 02:38:49,770
looks like a reasonably nice
restaurant. And what the hell

2707
02:38:49,770 --> 02:38:49,890
was

2708
02:38:49,890 --> 02:38:53,640
wrong with these people? Wow.
Well, I'll

2709
02:38:53,640 --> 02:38:57,360
tell you it starts early on and
it start it's all starts here

2710
02:38:57,360 --> 02:39:00,960
and in our country's early on.
This is a story from

2711
02:39:01,140 --> 02:39:02,220
Massachusetts

2712
02:39:02,220 --> 02:39:06,390
Giulio Hartwell loves her dolls
in arts and crafts and like most

2713
02:39:06,390 --> 02:39:08,370
four year olds, she has a best
friend.

2714
02:39:08,400 --> 02:39:12,750
She said, you know, selling so
you're my best buddy. The

2715
02:39:12,750 --> 02:39:15,630
teacher told her that she
couldn't say that school.

2716
02:39:15,750 --> 02:39:18,480
That pin socket workshop
preschool. That's not a term

2717
02:39:18,480 --> 02:39:20,820
Julia can use to describe her
friendship.

2718
02:39:20,850 --> 02:39:23,880
I think it's ridiculous. And
children who are four years old

2719
02:39:23,910 --> 02:39:27,960
speak from their heart so they
should be able to call kids.

2720
02:39:28,680 --> 02:39:31,770
Anything loving me or my best
friend. You're my best pal.

2721
02:39:31,830 --> 02:39:34,860
The Georgetown preschool offered
this explanation to Julius

2722
02:39:34,860 --> 02:39:38,520
parents saying the term best
friend can lead other children

2723
02:39:38,520 --> 02:39:42,750
to feel excluded, and it can
ultimately lead to the formation

2724
02:39:42,780 --> 02:39:46,710
of cliques and outsiders,
encouraging their students to

2725
02:39:46,710 --> 02:39:49,080
have a wider group of friends.

2726
02:39:49,260 --> 02:39:52,530
Although I think that words are
really important and the term

2727
02:39:52,530 --> 02:39:56,730
best does have an implied
meaning to it. I don't know if

2728
02:39:56,730 --> 02:40:01,560
the right answers necessarily
did nine children have the

2729
02:40:01,560 --> 02:40:02,550
ability to use that

2730
02:40:02,550 --> 02:40:06,090
term. Even now she goes to say
it in a loving way. I'm gonna go

2731
02:40:06,090 --> 02:40:10,020
see my best friend, Charlie on
this one or that one. And she

2732
02:40:10,020 --> 02:40:14,310
looks at me sideways as she's
saying it. And she's checking in

2733
02:40:14,310 --> 02:40:16,470
with me to see if that language
is okay.

2734
02:40:16,620 --> 02:40:19,350
Christine Hartwell tells us her
daughter will not be going to

2735
02:40:19,350 --> 02:40:22,170
school the rest of the year, we
reached out to the pentacle

2736
02:40:22,170 --> 02:40:25,410
workshop preschool for comment.
So far, we have not heard back.

2737
02:40:25,530 --> 02:40:28,440
So I just found the contrast of
these two clips back to back to

2738
02:40:28,440 --> 02:40:33,120
be just astounding in context of
our world today. Well, it's not

2739
02:40:33,120 --> 02:40:36,420
okay for a child to say you're
my best friend, a four year old

2740
02:40:36,420 --> 02:40:40,680
child, but you can stand in the
restaurant and call someone a

2741
02:40:40,680 --> 02:40:41,670
Nazi scum.

2742
02:40:42,780 --> 02:40:45,990
Yeah, the hell? The hell isn't
combination. That is a

2743
02:40:45,990 --> 02:40:46,740
fantastic.

2744
02:40:47,700 --> 02:40:51,330
What kind of values are we? Are
we exposing here?

2745
02:40:55,800 --> 02:41:01,230
Well, back to ABC, because I was
talking about their report on

2746
02:41:01,230 --> 02:41:05,340
this Jackson guy, the doctor.
Yeah, was pretty lopsided. But

2747
02:41:05,580 --> 02:41:10,680
ABC, which I'm now monitoring, I
found this to be very dubious

2748
02:41:10,680 --> 02:41:15,120
that I want you to listen to
this is about some buddy had

2749
02:41:15,210 --> 02:41:19,860
apparently taped or they had
written notes or something for a

2750
02:41:19,860 --> 02:41:22,770
big meeting the NFL say and
Apple's got this big problem

2751
02:41:22,770 --> 02:41:25,050
with with image. And yeah,

2752
02:41:25,080 --> 02:41:27,570
because their TV show is being
ruined.

2753
02:41:28,290 --> 02:41:32,400
And they have they had a meeting
with the players about

2754
02:41:32,460 --> 02:41:35,520
oh, this was the secret
recording. Yeah.

2755
02:41:37,200 --> 02:41:39,690
Nobody plays the recording, by
the way. Explain. explain,

2756
02:41:39,690 --> 02:41:44,010
explain. Alright, so they had a
meeting about all the old nerves

2757
02:41:44,010 --> 02:41:46,560
and all the top players got
together for some big meeting to

2758
02:41:46,560 --> 02:41:50,190
try to resolve this kneeling
problem, an image problem of the

2759
02:41:50,190 --> 02:41:52,860
league. But of course, nobody
wants to report on anything

2760
02:41:52,860 --> 02:41:55,620
about that. They want to report
on the fact that a couple of

2761
02:41:55,620 --> 02:41:58,920
negative things are saying Said
About Trump. But I want to

2762
02:41:58,950 --> 02:42:02,550
deconstruct this particular
report that ABC does I call it a

2763
02:42:02,550 --> 02:42:06,300
dubious, it's a hit piece.
There's no real reason to do

2764
02:42:06,300 --> 02:42:10,380
this piece at all, except just
to give Trump a bad time and I

2765
02:42:10,380 --> 02:42:12,540
find it to be a pourraient they
got other things to do with

2766
02:42:12,540 --> 02:42:16,230
their time and the way they the
way they position this piece.

2767
02:42:16,410 --> 02:42:20,460
And the way they presented it
was really nauseating. Whether

2768
02:42:20,460 --> 02:42:21,510
you like Trump or not.

2769
02:42:21,780 --> 02:42:24,360
In the meantime, we move on
tonight the recordings leaked

2770
02:42:24,390 --> 02:42:27,420
NFL players and owners their
private meeting they were

2771
02:42:27,420 --> 02:42:30,780
talking about NFL protests. And
President Trump and the

2772
02:42:30,780 --> 02:42:34,530
President's own friend patriots
owner Bob Kraft, and what he

2773
02:42:34,530 --> 02:42:37,530
said about the president here
tonight, Gio Benitez,

2774
02:42:38,520 --> 02:42:41,760
the President and the Patriots
again and again talking up his

2775
02:42:41,760 --> 02:42:45,120
friendship with star quarterback
Tom Brady and team owner Bob

2776
02:42:45,120 --> 02:42:46,500
Kraft. Friends, they

2777
02:42:46,500 --> 02:42:49,470
own teams and Bob Kraft is a
great owner craft

2778
02:42:49,470 --> 02:42:51,480
even giving the President his
own Super Bowl

2779
02:42:51,480 --> 02:42:54,930
ring. No team has been this good
for this long.

2780
02:42:57,150 --> 02:42:59,790
But today, new recordings
obtained by the New York Times

2781
02:42:59,790 --> 02:43:02,850
reveal crafts deep frustration
when the President attack

2782
02:43:02,850 --> 02:43:05,520
players taking a knee during the
national anthem.

2783
02:43:05,640 --> 02:43:09,540
Wouldn't you love to see one of
these NFL owners? When somebody

2784
02:43:09,540 --> 02:43:13,980
disrespects our flag to say get
that son of a gun off the field

2785
02:43:13,980 --> 02:43:16,110
right now out he's fired.

2786
02:43:16,470 --> 02:43:20,190
The President's words topic a at
a private meeting of NFL owners

2787
02:43:20,190 --> 02:43:23,040
and players in October.
According to the Times Kraft

2788
02:43:23,040 --> 02:43:26,370
called on the group to address
the elephant in the room this

2789
02:43:26,370 --> 02:43:29,730
kneeling. The problem we have is
we have a president who will use

2790
02:43:29,730 --> 02:43:33,330
that as fodder to do his mission
that I don't feel is in the best

2791
02:43:33,330 --> 02:43:36,390
interests of America. It's
divisive and it's horrible.

2792
02:43:36,570 --> 02:43:40,260
Publicly, the Patriots mounting
a show of unity on the field Tom

2793
02:43:40,260 --> 02:43:43,950
Brady linking arms with his
teammates. And David several

2794
02:43:43,950 --> 02:43:46,770
other NFL owners took on the
president during that private

2795
02:43:46,770 --> 02:43:50,160
meeting one reportedly calling
his presidency disastrous.

2796
02:43:50,280 --> 02:43:54,540
Another adding this we need to
put a bandaid on what's going on

2797
02:43:54,750 --> 02:43:56,400
in this country, David.

2798
02:43:57,359 --> 02:44:02,189
Okay. Now, first of all the at
the very end of that report,

2799
02:44:02,189 --> 02:44:05,999
there's two gratuitous slaps.
One of the owner says is

2800
02:44:05,999 --> 02:44:09,029
disastrous, and another one said
we need to put a bandaid on

2801
02:44:09,029 --> 02:44:09,479
something or

2802
02:44:09,480 --> 02:44:12,030
other and why didn't they play
the audio from those quotes?

2803
02:44:12,120 --> 02:44:14,850
Why did I don't care about the
audio? Why don't you just name

2804
02:44:14,850 --> 02:44:18,870
the guys? There you go. They
didn't name the guys, but they

2805
02:44:18,870 --> 02:44:21,480
did name Robert Kraft. So why do
you name Robert Kraft but you

2806
02:44:21,480 --> 02:44:23,850
don't name the other guys. And
how do you know that there

2807
02:44:23,850 --> 02:44:26,010
wasn't somebody saying yeah, the
President's fine. He's got

2808
02:44:26,010 --> 02:44:28,020
nothing to do with it. That
could have happened to but

2809
02:44:28,020 --> 02:44:30,450
that's not going to be reported.
And then these other guys aren't

2810
02:44:30,450 --> 02:44:32,850
going to be named because this
may have never even happened

2811
02:44:32,850 --> 02:44:35,520
because they didn't have a tape
of it. They just call out Robert

2812
02:44:35,520 --> 02:44:40,740
Kraft because the president at
early on, mentioned him as a PAL

2813
02:44:40,770 --> 02:44:43,380
and they're just going after
your friend of Trump's we're

2814
02:44:43,380 --> 02:44:48,000
going after you Yeah, wow was a
hit piece is designed to keep

2815
02:44:48,000 --> 02:44:52,410
everybody about Trump. Yeah, I
thought this was a really a bad

2816
02:44:52,410 --> 02:44:55,560
piece of propaganda sent the
wrong message. It was really

2817
02:44:55,650 --> 02:44:58,830
poor journalism. And then to
throw out two gratuitous

2818
02:44:58,830 --> 02:45:02,940
commentaries will One now the
President's a disaster said Who

2819
02:45:02,940 --> 02:45:06,210
knows who? We had his name. I
don't know why you don't say his

2820
02:45:06,210 --> 02:45:06,810
name.

2821
02:45:07,770 --> 02:45:10,170
Man, you keep this up. You're
gonna get the Presidential Medal

2822
02:45:10,170 --> 02:45:14,730
of Honor. Yeah, yeah, no good,

2823
02:45:15,000 --> 02:45:18,690
good even get invited to the
inauguration and you actually

2824
02:45:18,690 --> 02:45:24,180
came out publicly very, very
early on and were listed as in

2825
02:45:24,180 --> 02:45:27,420
the Celebrity list of people who
came out for Trump. And you

2826
02:45:27,600 --> 02:45:33,000
didn't even get invited. No to
anything. No. Yeah, no, we're

2827
02:45:33,000 --> 02:45:36,300
not getting Yeah, what I'm doing
this because this is a news

2828
02:45:36,300 --> 02:45:39,540
deconstruction show. And that's
a good example of shitty news.

2829
02:45:39,930 --> 02:45:41,160
very shitty news.

2830
02:45:41,940 --> 02:45:47,460
Yeah. More shitty news. This is

2831
02:45:48,420 --> 02:45:52,470
starting to heat up in the
Netherlands. I did a big hit

2832
02:45:52,470 --> 02:45:57,180
search and found more examples
of this from 2008. But

2833
02:45:57,180 --> 02:46:03,540
apparently some opera is now a
conductor now not a conductor.

2834
02:46:03,570 --> 02:46:08,220
But anyway, there's a big
problem with Mozart's opera. The

2835
02:46:08,220 --> 02:46:12,900
magic magical flute did Salba
Floyd. Yeah. It's apparently

2836
02:46:12,900 --> 02:46:14,670
misogynistic and racist.

2837
02:46:16,320 --> 02:46:17,250
Did you know this?

2838
02:46:17,850 --> 02:46:21,270
I know it now. Yeah. If you Is
there an explanation for this?

2839
02:46:21,960 --> 02:46:24,960
Yes. What was this written in?
1640?

2840
02:46:24,960 --> 02:46:29,100
Yes, yes. And the lyrics? Yeah,
they're very racist. And

2841
02:46:29,100 --> 02:46:31,440
misogynistic. You know, it's
talking about women. They should

2842
02:46:31,440 --> 02:46:35,820
be in the kitchen. Like, boy,
he's his tongue as his black as

2843
02:46:35,820 --> 02:46:38,910
his skin saying, you know, this
black guy was a liar. Yeah, it's

2844
02:46:38,910 --> 02:46:42,990
very racist. But I guess it's
gonna be off the books now. Burn

2845
02:46:42,990 --> 02:46:44,730
it. Get rid of get rid

2846
02:46:44,730 --> 02:46:46,710
of Mozart's got to go.

2847
02:46:47,580 --> 02:46:51,270
That Amadeus aihole Get rid of
him.

2848
02:46:54,600 --> 02:46:57,660
Isn't that great? Yeah, just
that actually is great.

2849
02:46:57,780 --> 02:47:00,360
This for the end of the show. I
have these three clips from 60

2850
02:47:00,360 --> 02:47:02,460
minutes last night because I
promised earlier in this

2851
02:47:02,460 --> 02:47:06,810
program, that as you said, you
know, face bag needs to be

2852
02:47:06,810 --> 02:47:09,510
attacked by the media. Well, 60
Minutes did a pretty good job

2853
02:47:09,510 --> 02:47:13,140
yesterday. And it wasn't hard
for them. They got a hold of

2854
02:47:13,140 --> 02:47:20,940
Aleksandr Kogan. This is the guy
who did the psychological survey

2855
02:47:21,120 --> 02:47:24,030
for Cambridge analytical, which
of course, you know, as we know,

2856
02:47:24,030 --> 02:47:27,930
now, the Russian bots retweeted
the ads based upon this

2857
02:47:27,930 --> 02:47:29,670
targeting, and Trump won,

2858
02:47:30,300 --> 02:47:33,630
and Hillary lost. That's the
reason Okay, so first of

2859
02:47:33,630 --> 02:47:38,130
all, the guy is a really
personable kind of nerdy guy.

2860
02:47:38,430 --> 02:47:40,530
You know, he's perfect the way
that he taught at the

2861
02:47:40,530 --> 02:47:45,720
university. And he starts off
with just blowing everyone's

2862
02:47:45,720 --> 02:47:50,550
mind with the true information,
which if you didn't see 60

2863
02:47:50,550 --> 02:47:52,770
minutes or you listen to the no
agenda show, you'll know all

2864
02:47:52,770 --> 02:47:53,460
about this.

2865
02:47:53,640 --> 02:47:57,330
For someone implicated in the
biggest privacy scandal on

2866
02:47:57,360 --> 02:47:59,460
Earth. Other Cogan secretly

2867
02:47:59,460 --> 02:48:04,380
This is the biggest privacy
scandal on earth. What? That's

2868
02:48:04,380 --> 02:48:05,730
CBS 60 minutes.

2869
02:48:06,030 --> 02:48:09,960
The biggest privacy scandal on
Earth on Earth. Okay.

2870
02:48:10,290 --> 02:48:17,250
I think the OP W. The OPM, the
Office of Personnel Management

2871
02:48:17,250 --> 02:48:18,450
was more scandalous.

2872
02:48:19,110 --> 02:48:20,850
That's still ongoing. I'm okay.

2873
02:48:21,120 --> 02:48:24,810
For someone implicated in the
biggest privacy scandal on

2874
02:48:24,840 --> 02:48:27,990
Earth. Nicole seems in Congo
Wesley

2875
02:48:28,020 --> 02:48:32,520
guileless be Whoa, whoa,
incongruous Lee guileless. What

2876
02:48:32,520 --> 02:48:33,570
does that mean?

2877
02:48:33,900 --> 02:48:36,930
Well, in current, it means
there's some sort of it doesn't

2878
02:48:36,930 --> 02:48:42,540
make sense that he is so calm
and doesn't seem to think any of

2879
02:48:42,540 --> 02:48:45,240
this is important or something
like that as my guess

2880
02:48:45,300 --> 02:48:48,570
it's just a great combo of words
in Congress. Lucia Eilis

2881
02:48:48,600 --> 02:48:53,040
loves her words at privacy
scandal on Earth. Cogan, seems

2882
02:48:53,040 --> 02:48:57,330
in Congress asleep guileless.
before all this happened, what

2883
02:48:57,330 --> 02:48:59,580
was your job? And what was your
field of study?

2884
02:49:00,030 --> 02:49:03,540
So I was a social psychologist.
I was working as a university

2885
02:49:03,540 --> 02:49:06,210
lecturer at the University of
Cambridge in England and

2886
02:49:06,210 --> 02:49:10,170
England. And I ran this lab that
studied happiness and kindness,

2887
02:49:10,500 --> 02:49:11,700
and happiness

2888
02:49:11,700 --> 02:49:17,160
and kindness. Yep, that's a far
cry from the adjectives lobbed

2889
02:49:17,160 --> 02:49:22,230
at him now, sinister, and
unethical. Here's what he did.

2890
02:49:22,620 --> 02:49:26,670
He asked Facebook users to take
a survey he designed from which

2891
02:49:26,670 --> 02:49:30,870
he built psychological profiles
meant to predict their behavior.

2892
02:49:31,470 --> 02:49:35,850
He failed to disclose one, that
what he was really after was

2893
02:49:35,880 --> 02:49:39,840
access to their friends 10s of
millions of people he could not

2894
02:49:39,870 --> 02:49:44,430
otherwise reach easily. And to
that he was doing the survey for

2895
02:49:44,430 --> 02:49:48,690
Cambridge Analytica, a political
consulting firm that use the

2896
02:49:48,690 --> 02:49:52,830
material to influence people on
how to vote. The companies then

2897
02:49:52,830 --> 02:49:56,760
CEO bragged about their
prediction models on stage

2898
02:49:56,850 --> 02:50:00,450
by having hundreds and hundreds
of 1000s of Americans undertake

2899
02:50:00,450 --> 02:50:03,720
this survey, we were able to
form a model to predict the

2900
02:50:03,720 --> 02:50:06,900
personality of every single
adult in the United States of

2901
02:50:06,900 --> 02:50:07,410
America.

2902
02:50:07,800 --> 02:50:10,290
Oh, did you get to the point
where you were predicting

2903
02:50:10,290 --> 02:50:13,860
personalities? And you gave that
to Cambridge? Analytical?

2904
02:50:13,890 --> 02:50:17,070
Correct? What did you think they
were going to use it for?

2905
02:50:17,370 --> 02:50:20,910
I knew it was going to be for
elections. And I had a

2906
02:50:20,940 --> 02:50:23,100
understanding or a feeling that
was going to be for the

2907
02:50:23,100 --> 02:50:27,330
Republican side, how was what
you did. So I create this app

2908
02:50:27,360 --> 02:50:30,210
where people sign up to do a
study. And when they sign up to

2909
02:50:30,210 --> 02:50:33,630
do the study, we would give them
a survey. And then the survey,

2910
02:50:33,630 --> 02:50:36,300
we would have just this Facebook
login button, and they would

2911
02:50:36,300 --> 02:50:40,140
click the button bond rises, we
get to authorize us to do what

2912
02:50:40,200 --> 02:50:43,110
it's collect certain data, we
would collect things like the

2913
02:50:43,110 --> 02:50:47,550
location, the gender, the
birthday, their page likes and

2914
02:50:47,550 --> 02:50:49,950
similar information for their
friends. And all of this was

2915
02:50:49,980 --> 02:50:53,070
did you say you collected
information on their friends? We

2916
02:50:53,070 --> 02:50:54,630
did. But they didn't opt

2917
02:50:54,630 --> 02:50:57,330
in. So they didn't opt in
explicitly?

2918
02:50:57,630 --> 02:51:01,350
No, no, no, they didn't opt in
period. They did. The friends

2919
02:51:01,350 --> 02:51:02,370
did not opt in. And that

2920
02:51:02,910 --> 02:51:06,420
seems crazy now, but the this
was a core feature of the

2921
02:51:06,420 --> 02:51:09,090
Facebook platform for years.
This was not a special

2922
02:51:09,090 --> 02:51:11,550
permission you have to get this
was just something that was

2923
02:51:11,550 --> 02:51:14,670
available to anybody who wanted
it. Who was a developer. Yes.

2924
02:51:14,670 --> 02:51:14,970
How

2925
02:51:14,970 --> 02:51:20,280
many apps? Do you think there
are? How many developers who did

2926
02:51:20,280 --> 02:51:20,460
what

2927
02:51:20,460 --> 02:51:22,530
you did? 10s of 1000s 10s

2928
02:51:22,530 --> 02:51:26,340
of 1000s 1000s. And Facebook,
obviously was aware,

2929
02:51:26,490 --> 02:51:28,890
of course, there was a feature,
not a bug.

2930
02:51:31,410 --> 02:51:34,680
That got hard and heavy now
lesley stahl not messing around.

2931
02:51:34,830 --> 02:51:36,060
And she Shocked.

2932
02:51:37,620 --> 02:51:38,340
Shocked,

2933
02:51:38,370 --> 02:51:41,550
has she done? No has none. No
one has done any research there

2934
02:51:41,550 --> 02:51:44,910
at CBS. And she really shocked
does she not? Does she not

2935
02:51:44,910 --> 02:51:45,840
realize yes,

2936
02:51:45,900 --> 02:51:49,140
I don't think they do research
anymore. Sandy para keyless, who

2937
02:51:49,140 --> 02:51:51,120
used to work at Facebook
explained,

2938
02:51:51,450 --> 02:51:55,860
the way it works is if you're
using an app, and I'm your

2939
02:51:55,860 --> 02:52:00,150
friend, you can say, hey,
Wesley, we want to get your data

2940
02:52:00,150 --> 02:52:02,940
for use in this app. We also
want to get your friends data.

2941
02:52:03,210 --> 02:52:07,530
If you say, I will allow that,
then the app gets my data to

2942
02:52:07,770 --> 02:52:11,670
what you're saying is I give
permission for the friend, the

2943
02:52:11,670 --> 02:52:13,380
friend doesn't give permission,
right?

2944
02:52:14,040 --> 02:52:16,410
I mean, it doesn't feel right.
When you say it doesn't

2945
02:52:16,410 --> 02:52:19,980
feel right. I mean, Facebook
should have been aware of how

2946
02:52:19,980 --> 02:52:23,640
this could be abused, because
they were repeatedly ruined,

2947
02:52:23,820 --> 02:52:27,780
including by Patrick culus, who
used to be a manager in charge

2948
02:52:27,780 --> 02:52:31,380
of protecting data at the
company. He says he raised

2949
02:52:31,380 --> 02:52:34,770
concerns years before Cogan
built his app,

2950
02:52:34,860 --> 02:52:37,200
I think they didn't want to
know, you know, the impression

2951
02:52:37,200 --> 02:52:41,490
that I got working there is they
didn't want the public to know,

2952
02:52:41,520 --> 02:52:45,090
well, they didn't want to know,
in the sense that if, if they

2953
02:52:45,090 --> 02:52:48,210
didn't know, then they could say
they didn't know and they

2954
02:52:48,210 --> 02:52:50,430
weren't liable. Whereas if they
knew they would actually have to

2955
02:52:50,430 --> 02:52:52,860
do something about it. And one
of the things that I was

2956
02:52:52,860 --> 02:52:58,350
concerned about was that
applications or developers of

2957
02:52:58,350 --> 02:53:02,040
applications would receive all
this Facebook data. And that

2958
02:53:02,040 --> 02:53:05,430
once they received it, there was
no insight. Facebook had no

2959
02:53:05,430 --> 02:53:08,250
control or view over what they
were doing with the data.

2960
02:53:08,340 --> 02:53:13,110
Once the data left Facebook. Did
Facebook have any real way to

2961
02:53:13,110 --> 02:53:16,050
find out what happened to it?
No. Was it just gone?

2962
02:53:16,109 --> 02:53:19,469
It was gone. They could put it
on a hard drive and they could

2963
02:53:19,469 --> 02:53:20,399
hide it in the closet?

2964
02:53:20,880 --> 02:53:25,650
Would you say then policing this
was pretty impossible. It was

2965
02:53:25,650 --> 02:53:28,380
very frustrating. Did you bring
this to the attention of the

2966
02:53:28,380 --> 02:53:29,190
higher ups? The

2967
02:53:29,190 --> 02:53:31,680
executives? Yeah, a number of
folks including several

2968
02:53:31,740 --> 02:53:34,110
executives. So were the
executives hair

2969
02:53:34,110 --> 02:53:37,560
on fire? Did they say oh my god,
we have to fix this we have to

2970
02:53:37,560 --> 02:53:38,460
do something I

2971
02:53:38,460 --> 02:53:44,490
didn't really see any traction
in terms of making changes to to

2972
02:53:44,490 --> 02:53:47,310
protect people. They didn't
prioritize it, I think is how I

2973
02:53:47,310 --> 02:53:47,910
would phrase it

2974
02:53:49,050 --> 02:53:51,630
that they didn't prioritize
privacy.

2975
02:53:52,770 --> 02:53:57,120
Yes, I would say that they
prioritize the growth of users

2976
02:53:57,480 --> 02:54:00,180
the growth and the data they can
collect and their ability to

2977
02:54:00,180 --> 02:54:02,700
monetize that through
advertising that's what they

2978
02:54:02,700 --> 02:54:05,940
prioritize because those were
the metrics and are the metrics

2979
02:54:06,300 --> 02:54:08,070
that the stock market cares
about.

2980
02:54:09,000 --> 02:54:12,000
I'm gonna send you that mute
button so fast you have no idea

2981
02:54:12,000 --> 02:54:14,430
you've been harping through all
the clips on coffin

2982
02:54:14,430 --> 02:54:18,420
I gave you have been talking
three hours and now I've got my

2983
02:54:18,450 --> 02:54:22,350
cough syrup sworn off. So I'm
coughing I'm sorry. I'll get up.

2984
02:54:22,920 --> 02:54:24,990
Yeah, you sent me to mute mute
button and won't be a problem.

2985
02:54:25,080 --> 02:54:30,870
Okay, done. last clip. And this
is the kicker because Alexander

2986
02:54:30,870 --> 02:54:31,560
Cogan

2987
02:54:31,680 --> 02:54:35,520
was not away yes Cheryl Sanders
is the CEO. Oh, yeah, it's

2988
02:54:35,520 --> 02:54:39,630
totally she knew she's the one
not Zuckerberg, yeah.

2989
02:54:39,720 --> 02:54:43,020
And he brought it to upper
executive management's attention

2990
02:54:43,020 --> 02:54:44,670
so she has to be Cheryl.

2991
02:54:45,300 --> 02:54:48,870
Yes, it has to be everybody
knows that they of course they

2992
02:54:48,870 --> 02:54:51,780
don't care about other stuff
that there's ideas. They are

2993
02:54:51,780 --> 02:54:52,440
going to

2994
02:54:52,470 --> 02:54:53,340
kill

2995
02:54:54,390 --> 02:54:58,560
mainstream media, with their
with the with the we've talked

2996
02:54:58,560 --> 02:55:03,060
about this offline. With the
ability to target people for

2997
02:55:03,060 --> 02:55:08,010
advertising, yes. Media has no
prayer against them.

2998
02:55:08,039 --> 02:55:11,819
No. Well, unless they do hit job
after hit job, but there is some

2999
02:55:11,970 --> 02:55:15,960
factual a little late in the
game. Well, they don't they're

3000
02:55:15,960 --> 02:55:19,050
just now shocked and surprised
that you were giving permission

3001
02:55:19,050 --> 02:55:23,790
to get get your friends data.
Oh, there's 10s of 1000s. These

3002
02:55:23,790 --> 02:55:25,500
people kind of bubbled Does she
live in?

3003
02:55:26,130 --> 02:55:27,480
I mean, do some work, lady.

3004
02:55:28,980 --> 02:55:32,610
All right. Here's the kicker
though. Alexander Cogan did not

3005
02:55:32,610 --> 02:55:33,990
work alone, the company

3006
02:55:33,990 --> 02:55:37,680
didn't start notifying the 10s
of millions of users whose data

3007
02:55:37,680 --> 02:55:39,870
had been scraped until this
month.

3008
02:55:39,960 --> 02:55:43,350
And I hate that I hate it. I
hate it I hated it was like

3009
02:55:43,350 --> 02:55:48,450
saying glitch. The data was not
scraped. Scraped implies. You

3010
02:55:48,450 --> 02:55:52,620
did some kind of trickery
hackery to get the names in a

3011
02:55:52,620 --> 02:55:56,610
way you weren't supposed to
know. This was a part of the

3012
02:55:56,610 --> 02:56:00,450
system a feature. Yes, so it
stopped with your scraped the

3013
02:56:00,450 --> 02:56:00,960
company

3014
02:56:00,960 --> 02:56:04,620
didn't start notifying the 10s
of millions of users whose data

3015
02:56:04,620 --> 02:56:08,940
had been scraped until this
month. They never took action

3016
02:56:08,970 --> 02:56:12,930
against this man, Joseph
Chancellor, who was Coggins co

3017
02:56:12,930 --> 02:56:15,120
worker and where is he today?

3018
02:56:15,150 --> 02:56:16,200
He works at Facebook.

3019
02:56:16,890 --> 02:56:20,610
Wait a minute. Did he have
anything to do with the study

3020
02:56:20,610 --> 02:56:22,410
you did for Cambridge Analytica?
Yeah,

3021
02:56:22,440 --> 02:56:25,020
I mean, we did everything
together. So they've come after

3022
02:56:25,020 --> 02:56:25,770
you,

3023
02:56:25,800 --> 02:56:30,810
but not someone who did exactly
what you did with you. Yes. And

3024
02:56:30,810 --> 02:56:34,920
he actually works at Facebook.
Correct? Are you on Facebook?

3025
02:56:35,400 --> 02:56:38,400
No, they, they deleted my
account. You

3026
02:56:38,400 --> 02:56:42,480
can't be on Facebook, you're
banned on Dan's and the partner?

3027
02:56:42,660 --> 02:56:46,650
Why? Correct? What's wrong with
this picture? I'm missing

3028
02:56:46,650 --> 02:56:46,890
something.

3029
02:56:46,920 --> 02:56:50,670
I mean, this is my frustration
with all this, where I had a

3030
02:56:50,670 --> 02:56:54,120
pretty good relationship with
Facebook for years, at least so

3031
02:56:54,120 --> 02:56:58,020
they knew who you were. I
visited their campus. Many

3032
02:56:58,020 --> 02:57:00,840
times. They had hired my
students and even did a

3033
02:57:00,840 --> 02:57:04,620
consulting project with Facebook
and November of 2015. And what I

3034
02:57:04,620 --> 02:57:08,550
was teaching them was lessons I
learned from working with this

3035
02:57:08,550 --> 02:57:11,550
data so that we have collected
rich analytics. So I was

3036
02:57:11,550 --> 02:57:14,070
explaining like, here's kind of
what we did. And here's what we

3037
02:57:14,070 --> 02:57:17,400
learned. And here's how you
could apply it internally to

3038
02:57:17,400 --> 02:57:20,730
help you with surveys and survey
predictions and things like that

3039
02:57:20,820 --> 02:57:21,720
any collusion

3040
02:57:21,750 --> 02:57:25,110
confirm that Cogan had done
research and consulting with the

3041
02:57:25,110 --> 02:57:31,620
company in 2013 and 2015. But in
a statement total 60 minutes. At

3042
02:57:31,620 --> 02:57:35,460
no point during these two years
was Facebook aware of Cogan 's

3043
02:57:35,460 --> 02:57:37,560
activities with Cambridge
Analytica,

3044
02:57:37,590 --> 02:57:40,290
except when he presented the
data and how we slice and dice

3045
02:57:40,290 --> 02:57:41,640
it Cogan

3046
02:57:41,640 --> 02:57:46,110
is testifying before the British
Parliament next week. He says

3047
02:57:46,110 --> 02:57:51,300
he's financially ruined and
discredited. Through his ordeal,

3048
02:57:51,510 --> 02:57:54,780
he says he's come to see the
error in the assumptions made by

3049
02:57:54,780 --> 02:57:58,590
the tech world about Americans
attitudes toward privacy.

3050
02:57:58,620 --> 02:58:02,910
Now this is so first of all,
yeah, wow. The guy's partner who

3051
02:58:02,910 --> 02:58:05,220
did all this work with him is
working at face bag. He

3052
02:58:05,220 --> 02:58:09,180
consulted on the very data he
took. None of this came up in

3053
02:58:09,180 --> 02:58:13,620
the 10 hours of testimony. No,
in fact, quite the opposite.

3054
02:58:13,620 --> 02:58:17,580
This was an evil guy, but his
equally evil partner, it works

3055
02:58:17,580 --> 02:58:18,480
at the face bag.

3056
02:58:19,200 --> 02:58:22,530
This is just This is outrageous.

3057
02:58:22,530 --> 02:58:24,660
It is and now he gets to the
crux.

3058
02:58:24,720 --> 02:58:28,290
Now we all know what you did.
Was it right

3059
02:58:28,350 --> 02:58:31,860
back then we thought it was
fine. Right now my opinion has

3060
02:58:31,860 --> 02:58:34,650
really been changed, and has
been changed in particular.

3061
02:58:34,890 --> 02:58:39,450
Because I think that core idea
that we had that everybody knows

3062
02:58:39,450 --> 02:58:43,500
nobody cares was fundamentally
flawed. And so if that idea is

3063
02:58:43,500 --> 02:58:48,390
wrong, then what we did was not
right. I was not wise and for

3064
02:58:48,390 --> 02:58:49,680
that I'm sincerely sorry.

3065
02:58:49,710 --> 02:58:52,920
And this of course has not
changed. This is still the exact

3066
02:58:52,920 --> 02:58:57,510
mentality of Silicon Valley.
Getting it for free. Totally

3067
02:58:57,540 --> 02:59:00,750
getting it for free. Everyone
knows the deal. Everyone knows

3068
02:59:00,750 --> 02:59:03,450
the deal. Don't lie, but they
really show exactly that's

3069
02:59:03,450 --> 02:59:05,550
exactly it. Yeah. And they
really don't know

3070
02:59:05,550 --> 02:59:09,150
the deal. That's the problem.
Anyway, I

3071
02:59:09,150 --> 02:59:11,820
thought that was good work on
CBS his behalf lesley stahl

3072
02:59:11,820 --> 02:59:16,440
Damas she is or at least dumber
she acts I thought it was good

3073
02:59:16,440 --> 02:59:18,600
and you know I don't I don't
know if anyone cares

3074
02:59:20,490 --> 02:59:22,920
probably not but we'll pick up
on these are getting the list of

3075
02:59:22,920 --> 02:59:25,440
mainstream media is getting a
clue about these guys. This is a

3076
02:59:25,440 --> 02:59:29,070
dangerous company for them for
their existence. This is an

3077
02:59:29,070 --> 02:59:30,660
existential threat.

3078
02:59:33,060 --> 02:59:34,350
And here I thought we are here.
I

3079
02:59:34,350 --> 02:59:36,480
thought we were the threat the
podcasters

3080
02:59:37,320 --> 02:59:41,550
podcasters Yeah, was that
podcast clip again?

3081
02:59:43,440 --> 02:59:46,890
Yeah, that's how we're
discredited. Throw a show on

3082
02:59:46,890 --> 02:59:51,450
that makes podcasters look like
doofus idiots. Okay, Boff, good.

3083
02:59:51,450 --> 02:59:55,980
No one will want to listen that
junk. That's what I'm thinking.

3084
02:59:58,920 --> 03:00:02,400
Well, it's pretty good. it.
Yeah, it could be true.

3085
03:00:04,589 --> 03:00:07,829
All right, everybody that is
your media deconstruction for

3086
03:00:07,829 --> 03:00:13,529
this Thursday, April 26 2018,
episode 1028. We return on

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Sunday with another episode for
you and who knows what will

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happen in the meantime anything
couldn't happen today. It is

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after all the show today. So
until then, I am coming to you

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from downtown Austin, Texas,
capital of the drone Star State

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FEMA Region six on the
governmental maps in the five by

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nine studio in the common law,
condo in the morning, everybody.

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I'm Adam curry,

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and from Northern Silicon
Valley. Well remember,

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everything just gets worse. I'm
Jesse Dvorak

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until Sunday, remember us at the
vortech.org/na and as always,

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adios, mofos I need a cab

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I had a swollen amygdala. Maybe
my parents didn't know how

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widespread swollen amygdala is,
while swollen amygdala shrinks

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for most. That wasn't the case
for me. Maybe they didn't know I

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would end up a douchebag SJW
because of my swollen amygdala.

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Maybe if they'd known there's a
podcast to help protect me when

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I was 11 or 12. Maybe my parents
just didn't know. Right, Mom?

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Dad? What will you say? Don't
wait, log on to your child's

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podcast app today. Learn more at
you might die.org known to the

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American public to this day

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just fell over head and go back
to sleep. Why not tell the

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American people That's another
great question. Huge Russian

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effort to mess with our election
because we didn't know whether

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we had anything we didn't want
to tip off these Americans

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started looking at making

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headlines a bloke in the
backyard

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throwing shade on Alex are

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sitting on a billion barrel
basis.

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They talk about collusion any
collusion party

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I think they had their greatest
hits of conspiracy. Well, I

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hear you but to get back to the
point about this

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serious you know process is
gonna start Yeah, well, I was

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just walking around by that
chemical weapon was mean the old

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I became part of Miami Shores.
without squeezing, jello is

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still not in Charmin
uncomfortable about that. We

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spoke to my customer makes a
genetically modified opposition

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to this important conversation
to have those exporters to bear

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the consequences for as are you
in cahoots?

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Greatest Hits of conspiracy
theories. Tonight I'm going to

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make my own YouTube conspiracy
video information about the

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conspiracy. They really were in
Google's state of guns the NRA

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is getting today. Nobody's gonna
show me that kid did the shoot

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job he did from that day and she
looks like a man. Did you know

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that a third building fell
online. According to summon the

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internet, this is exactly what
Elon Musk did. I was drawing on

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what is your mind works like a
television set?

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How do conspiracy theories form?

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You think of it like a mosaic? A
lot of different pieces, a lot

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of different investigations that
get lost in the noise. Somebody

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has this crazy conspiracy theory
that they're suing over

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not a scintilla Not a cent of
evidence. The human mind tries

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to find some sort of outlet for
the reefer rage or just

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uncertainty. I don't know what I
know. But I know that it's big.

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I think people look for
conspiracies and everything

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because it's exciting.

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Our LNG delay the part of our
brain that processes fear.

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Jumpstart is the part of our
brain that processes information

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began was raised by a friend in
Indonesia.

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He is telling the truth now
that's why we're not going to

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hear it

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but others have detected
unexpected and frankly bizarre

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secrets buried in his pages.

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He claims there's a A
conspiracy. There's got to be so

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much more out there MoPhO

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boruch.org/n A oh my god