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Adam Curry: mo fax with Adam
curry for February 20 2023.

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Episode number 90 Adam curry
coming to you from the heart of

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the Texas Hill Country time once
again to spin the Wheel of

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topics from here to Northern
Virginia. Please say hello to my

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friend on the other end, ladies
and gentlemen, Mr. Mole facts. I

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know Adam, I am good Moe, how
about yourself? I'm doing well,

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man. It's been. It's been an
interesting couple of weeks. I

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have missed our little chats to
be honest.

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Unknown: I have it well.

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Adam Curry: Yeah. And so today,
I think I think what's happened

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is I think the good Lord has
told me I got to cost less and

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maybe just listen more. So he
gave me a nice oral surgery

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yesterday. So, if I if I start
slipping or talk slowly, then

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everyone knows what's going on.
Okay, because it only hurts when

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I laugh. So don't you do well,

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Unknown: this might not be the
show.

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Adam Curry: It's happened
already.

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Unknown: I apologize in advance.

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Adam Curry: I'm very, very
excited. Let's spin the wheel of

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topics. Here we have Okay. All
right. There we go round and

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round the Wheel of topics goes
where it stops. Nobody knows.

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But of course Moe knows because
he put it all together the topic

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for Moe facts with Adam curry.
Episode number 90 is big tech

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isn't bad with big con. Ah,
Crowder. Interesting. Okay.

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Well, I know a little bit about
this. I followed that story

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somewhat.

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Unknown: I'm glad you did, I
thought was one of the most

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fascinating stories at the time.
And it was the MCAT or the what

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do you call it the cap on the
top or something the capstone of

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a previous show I had, you know,
teased. And you force my hand it

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was on the Yeti versus de show.
Yeah. When we got into the

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Candace Owens being you know,
trying to pony up again. Beside

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yay. Yes. You forced my hand in,
in spectacular podcast fashion.

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Adam Curry: What did I don't
remember? What

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Unknown: did I do? I was just
hanging around the edges with

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her and Kanye and what she might
be up to? Yeah. And you were

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like, You were kept going like
you kept pulling the strings.

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Come on. Right. Because I saw
this coming. I saw big con, to

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being big conservative media
being looking for opportunities

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to increase the market share.
And that's what her move I

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thought was because she was
going to tell the off code

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against the daily wire for yay.
And yeah, it

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Adam Curry: didn't last very
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Unknown: No, because he went for
he went for yay. And she she

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couldn't go there.

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Adam Curry: No, of course not.
Because she works for daily

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wire. You can't go full yay.
When it comes down to the Zinus.

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globalists.

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Unknown: Well, the thing was,
she was willing to go with yay,

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where he was going. But where he
took it on the Alex Jones Show.

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Yeah, that gets you ostracized
from your social circles. And

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that's really one of the
pressures right? I mean,

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everybody will make moves for
money. But when you become

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ostracized and shunned from your
social circles, or that's a

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threat, then that you know,
that's another level of

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canceling if which I think she
didn't want to deal with and

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then the parlor deal dried up
mysteriously

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Adam Curry: that was gonna
happen like, that seems unlikely

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that would that would didn't
think that would complete.

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Unknown: So just as that's where
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want to look into that whole
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We're gonna go circle back to
yeh, because it has something to

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do with what he was like the
contract thing, right? It's

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because you're aware, somewhat
of what's going on to Steven

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Crowder and daily wire situation
and we're gonna get into, you

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know, maybe Operation Paperclip,
so Mockingbird Excuse me. machi.

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Adam Curry: Justice. Good,
justice. Good. So I guess what

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Unknown: we need to do now is
just get the background and for

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people that were not in the know
and start with clip number two,

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there's some drama unfolding in
the world of conservative media.

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conservative media commentator
Steven Crowder, sort of YouTube

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personality has accused Ben
Shapiro and Candace Owens daily

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wire of being in bed with big
tech. So here's what happened.

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Steven Crowder, so YouTube
conservative who was formerly

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affiliated with the blaze, he's
on his own now, and apparently

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the daily wire reached out to
him with an offer to acquire him

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and to host his show going
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terms of that agreement, he said
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for if he ever got demonetised
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they were going to start
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contract.

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Adam Curry: That's, that's a
little bit of an abbreviation.

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Right? Don't know, the reason I
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and I did follow this. And I
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interesting. And I have a lot of
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Crowder, he said he had problems
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offered to him. He didn't say
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wire. I forget the guy's name,
the boring, boring. Yes. Jeremy,

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Jeremy, boring. He's the one
that came out and said, Oh, hold

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on a second. This was our
contract. Let me tell you what's

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really going on. And then the
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So it wasn't initially Crowder.
Who who mentioned daily wire, if

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I'm, if I recall correctly,

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Unknown: that that is correct.
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side note, you know, they say
like your last name was what

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your forefathers did, you know,
like, are boring. So boring.

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That fits you I tried to use him
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because he went over the
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line, but it was a snoozer, so I
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appropriately the name. So I
mean, yes, you're right. Steven

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Crowder, didn't come out and say
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was talking about. But I guess
daily wire, kind of wanted to,

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you know, jump out in front of
it. And they, you know, they

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outdone themselves. Well,

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Adam Curry: I mean, I don't know
if it's, I don't know if this is

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too much goggles. But the reason
boring did that was all

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positioning about their company,
because they have a very set

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direction, which is not even
doesn't really even involve

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Shapiro anymore. I mean, this
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movies, and, you know, which is
what he's always been,

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Unknown: you know, right. And
this is why I wanted to do this

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show with you, because this is
the counter narrative to value

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for value. So I know you were
all over it. And it just exposes

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the, you know, the red tape that
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contracts. So I was excited to
do this show. And like I said,

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it was a great Capstone with
this happening. And it's amazing

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how these things go that you
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Well, I think I have the show
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from the sky illustrates exactly
what is illustrate exactly what

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I was talking about. So I guess
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number three.

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Here's Steven Crowder talking
about it. They don't get deals

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that basically waste slaves for
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a salary and grow their brand.
The waist race for a little bit.

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A little bit. So Steven Crowder,
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whoring who is daily wire co
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and surreptitiously recorded
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because they were very good
friends previously recorded him

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saying that line about what you
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coming up conservative, you
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to be a wage slave for a little
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that the contract they offered
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over, I believe, three years.
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Adam Curry: more context here as
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Unknown: Please add all the
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this is gonna be a great
opportunity, what you heard what

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I heard and what they're
reporting. So please fill in the

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gaps where you see necessary.

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Adam Curry: Okay, I'll kind of
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what is going on here is Crowder
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20. He has he has a real
business, whatever. I'm not sure

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exactly what happened with the
blades, but I know that he was

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looking, in fact looking to
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play I heard directly from some
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already does a version of that
because he has a reported, I

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think 300,000 members of the mug
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300,000 letters, even if it's
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him monthly. So he's got a very
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necessity for advertising and
the contract that was offered

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actually really made him a wage
slave that's that's in my

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opinion, doesn't matter how much
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there's if you're set to a
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certain things you have to do
certain targets you have to hit

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which is why I prefer doing full
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make the money Crowder does but
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I can do whatever I want. Now
the thing that I find baffling

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is that Crowder is making a big
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him or become a part of perhaps
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build. And this is, and I may be
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way you know, the way I heard it
and what he didn't like about,

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you know, the that what am I
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comes after me. And I just want
to say very clearly the you

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can't monetize the network. So I
don't know what Crowder is

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thinking of, but he should just
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his own. And he doesn't really
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the way it breaks down. I don't
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million over, you know, over
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whatever it was, I think he's
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there's, there's more behind it
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It's not coming out right yet.
Or maybe I've lost track of it

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and hope. Well, I know one
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be going to be fantastic. So I'm
waiting for you have to say.

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Unknown: So the takeaways I have
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level, like the the media
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One is, I think he saw a chance
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a blazed to become a media.
Daily Mail, excuse me, daily

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wire means to me daily wire.
Agreed, agreed. So it was me

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record him saying yeah, you're
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start right there at the
recording, because even his

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crowd was split on this is that
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That was kind of bad business.
You know, it was because, you

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know, with the conservative
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upstanding and we don't do
underhanded things like that.

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But at the same time, they're
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Adam Curry: they literally, you
know, get a guy in a gay date

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and try to get everything out of
him, which is also pretty low

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when it when it comes to you
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Unknown: right, with the sacred
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wouldn't say 5050 I would say
maybe 80 20% was kind of like

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that's kind of off, you know,
off script to read, be recording

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people, but he saw his
opportunity say, Look, they're

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trying to make you waste slaves.
Yeah. And I won't do that. Come

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join us. And I'll give you a
fair deal. You know, that kind

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Adam Curry: that doesn't sit
well with me. It's like do your

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own show do you don't have to be
a network. That's just my

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personal experience, really not
even opinion, experience. And

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it's very hard to make it work.

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Unknown: Well, this is how rat
works. And this is why I found

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it fascinating. When you talk
about yay. And what he was going

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through. This is how it works.
Big labels sign up and coming

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artists that we put the machine
behind you. But we can dictate

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your career. And we get what's
called a 360, which is you know,

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saying we make money off for all
your money. And that's one of

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the things you didn't bring up
was. I think that Steven Crowder

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wouldn't own his any
documentaries that he made, he

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would get paid for him. But he
went on, you know, the rights to

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Adam Curry: not even the shows
that he would make on their

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behalf even the show. So
basically, if you want to use

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that analog, all the publishing
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Unknown: Correct, which this is
a wonderful. Just aligning of

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what's happening in hip hop,
what was happening, wait, yay.

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And now we're seeing these kinds
of contracts, good PR, coming

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into the content creation. And

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Adam Curry: if I can just
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we started pod show 2006. And we
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venture capital do it, we did
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we were not we were not shy
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much like a record, like a band,
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their own label, we set them all
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guaranteed amount of money. Not
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would go on to create sub
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own their own entrepreneur. But
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rights. And there's really no
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go full on value for value.
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Unknown: And I agree and the sub
sub narrative who all of this

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this is my new but these are
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slavery, this slavery that and
then there's kicking and

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screaming about becoming wage
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thought that would be that's the
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like, I didn't really talking
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comes out or both or their
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deniers, even to the point where
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guys from the daily The Wire had
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continuing narrative of slavery,
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I just wanted to bring that up.
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the fuller, I gotta say this
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know some people may our role,
and why is he always talking

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about white supremacy? Is
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say that term and it makes
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we're getting somewhere, would
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Flack? You're over the target.
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say that so this nearly four
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This is him explaining how white
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Want to make this very, very
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oh, gosh, the white supremacist
have various skill at the art

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science code of deception. All
right, and they are the best

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strategies and strategies in the
world for dominating and

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mistreating people. And part of
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do what what did I say earlier
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were with this program at the
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over and over again. And I'm
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it the white supremacist, take
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when it comes to people of
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positioned themselves to have,
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greater strength than they had
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Adam Curry: All right. And of
course, I always love how he

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says supremacists, not
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which I think is is subtle, but
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Unknown: Yes, it is. And people
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now is the orange people.

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Adam Curry: rose colored people.

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Unknown: I've roasted soljet
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upcoming show. Carville, did you
hear what he said? When about

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being white trash? No, no, I
guess I missed that. Oh, yeah.

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When he was talking about MTG
martyrs, he flat out Carter

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white trash. This is where we're
at. And I'm telling you, they're

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starting to push the orange
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color category. And in doing
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co op the media of the orange
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Adam Curry: to first of all,
yes, because 9089 episodes ago,

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it was the first time you said
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Unknown: And here we are. Here
we do a full throated Hicks said

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he's a well known I'm gonna just
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going to be upcoming show. So
get ready for it. But that just

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proved my head to lay that out
there to say, the reason why

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they have the COA and that they
in this it's big tech. And you

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know, whoever big tech works for
us, and you can fill in the

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blanks with that, um, they can't
let conservative or alt media be

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free. No, we have to go in we
have to co opt it. We have to

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get all the rising stars in the
contract. That way we can say if

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you step foul of whatever big
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you won't get paid as much as
you possibly can. Which is this

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is just nothing but
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Adam Curry: Yeah, yeah. Yes, I
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Unknown: So So I guess we can
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the nearly full Eclipse just so
I want everybody know, they take

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all sides, not both sides. Even
though the third or fourth side,

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they say all sides of the
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emphasize that again. They are
very, very scientific and taken

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all the they position their
people on all sides of not just

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two sides, three sides. If
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religious argument, political
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they position themselves on all
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argument Don't forget that. Like
the Godfather, trying to tell

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Michael I mean, you know,
whoever comes to you and set up

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this meeting, so trader Don't
forget that.

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And we got to see who's the
trader in this situation

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Adam Curry: who okay

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Unknown: We got one handing out
a contract with stipulations a

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big tech, but then we also have
some minor secret recording

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some, which is very off code.
There was a you know, like, oh,

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a code of conduct amongst these
people meanwhile, which which is

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a farce. I mean, I'm saying,
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Adam Curry: yeah, but meanwhile
we don't know. We don't even

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know what happened with the
blaze. We don't really know why

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Crowder, left Dewey?

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Unknown: Well, the blaze the
blaze.

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Adam Curry: Let me let me give
it a try. Just just looking at J

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lock 100. It's a control
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Unknown: Jet. Yeah, that it is.
But you got to remember that the

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blaze Aang and Glenn Beck were
18 Never Trumpers sure to begin

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with. And I think maybe that's
Crowder wasn't down with that he

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saw that wasn't a winning
strategy. And that might be a

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reason why he broke away from
it. And let me just be honest,

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this whole conservative beef is
nothing new. I've been around

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these circles for a long time. I
remember Glenn Beck and Alex

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Jones, we're going at it. They
were saying heavy. Now they

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patched up because they gotta
realize, you know, kind of like

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the Avengers movie with Thanos
is coming. So you know the good

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guys and the bad guys, whoever
you want, say good or bad. It

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has to team up together and
fight is far bigger threat. So

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this is nothing new.

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Adam Curry: No, I mean, I when I
did the Glenn Beck show when he

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interviewed me. And then like,
three or four days later, he

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said, Hey, you know, I want to I
want you to do every Friday on

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the radio show. You know, there
was clearly like, hey, why don't

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you come and join like a soft
hand join us type thing. And I

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didn't want that. I felt
immediately like and that's

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that's quite the operation, man.
They got so much going on there.

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Unknown: Is this you brought up
Whitlock? See. This is what I

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was talking about these subtle
things you do? And he's like,

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because you did it with the
previous show it yay. He's like,

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I gotta hop out of here. Say you
got me. You got Whitlock this

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week. The guy over value
tainment invited Whitlock Oh

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yeah, that guy. There was some
drama with that.

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Adam Curry: Said valiant David
bet. Is that that guy? Yes.

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That's him. I missed the drama.
I didn't see the drama. What?

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Unknown: Yeah, he about it.
Whitlock and then he tried to

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blindside Whitlock with bringing
on what's that guy from the blue

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light. Um, rah rah Roland
Martin. Ron Martin. Oh, wow.

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it was gonna be a panel. But

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then he's like, Oh, why you're
here. I got a panel. In Whitlock

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thought he was going to be on
like a one on one kind of

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interview. And it became his
whole thing. But it was like,

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you know, I can say what I want
to say he was just trying to

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pick two black people together.
And by the end of the week, he

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had to reassure how conservative
he was. Because in that rant, he

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was I'm not conservative. I'm
not there's nothing nobody can

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own me. And then by the end of
the week, he had to re assure he

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was so yeah, this is the Yeah,
it is. You got to be careful

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when you sign these contracts.
Because he if for me, this is

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take him out for me. If I would
have signed when these

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contracts, I understand they
were like MO You can never talk

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about reparations again, in a
positive light. Right? You know,

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as a conservative, there are
certain things you just can't

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say. And that's one of them.
White supremacy gotta go. You

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gotta fight you globalist you
who

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Adam Curry: are not that yeah,

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Unknown: yes. So I'm just
telling you so yeah. So good

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point. You're right. And it's
amazing. They tried to get you

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on the couch right? Hey curry
Oh, we want to get you in the

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car talking

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Adam Curry: about and I felt it
right away and just like no, I'd

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be happy to come Don't don't pay
me if you want me to come on.

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I'll be happy to talk when it's
great. It's great for my show.

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blamed for everything I do. So
he gets some exposure and that

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and he has called me a couple of
times but then again, it was

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like I can't remember what it
was it was like some crazy

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conspiracy theories theory he
was like yeah, call Korea Mike

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now and I'm not gonna do that.
I'm not just here for the for

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the nutjob stuff. But I
appreciate that. Well, yeah,

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that's who I am but but that's
not my friend. I guess it is my

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brand really what am I saying?
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Unknown: what better brand is it
though? We talk about lizard

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people. We can talk about
anything we can shut us up.

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Adam Curry: lizard people.

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Unknown: All right. Thanks to
thanks to the people value for

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value. Thank you. And that's
what that's the like the the

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moral of This story, we had to
say it before the story is over.

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The producers allow us to say
all the things that we say and

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not be filtered or monitored or
you know, nudge, they say, Oh

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no, if you want to put it that
way,

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Adam Curry: very powerful for
us. Very empowering.

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Unknown: Very, very much. So. So
now we got to go back to the

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heel, and this is the summary.
Let's go and get to number four

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$50 million over I believe,
three years, which is a whole

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lot of money. Here's Candice
Owen responding to the debacle

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on Timberwolves podcast.

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Oh, LOL to anyone who thinks
that Steven Crowder is not doing

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this to make money. Like I mean,
I just have to outwardly laugh.

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He's He's the person in the sky.
He's a wolf in sheep's clothing,

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right? He's he's like, I'm not
I'm here, because I care about

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all of you. That's why I'm
recording my friend and doing

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this crappy thing where I
literally could have just said,

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No, I don't like those terms.
And then said to everybody, I'm

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starting my own outfit. Fair.
You walk away all the time. You

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have to go you will I have
walked away. You know, I had an

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offer from the blades. It didn't
work for me. You know what? I

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don't need to piece apart the
contract. I love those guys. I

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think Tyler is amazing. This is
what I'm saying that people need

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to stop thinking that he is some
knight in shining armor. He's

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not he's not a knight in shining
armor. And if you can't see

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that, watch this video because I
think his acting is never more

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apparent. Even the titles. I
didn't want to do this. Oh,

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really? Then why the hell did
you record them?

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Adam Curry: You know, I felt
very bad for Candace Owens when

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when I saw this. First of all, I
don't understand the appeal of

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Tim Poole. That's, that's not my
they've invited me I'm like,

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Nah, it's okay, man. I'm cool. I
don't. It's the it's always

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boring. To me. It feels a lot of
very inside the stuff that they

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do back and forth. It feels like
I'm listening to Twitter most of

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the time. And for Candace Owen,
who was who was tripping over

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her words, it to me it was oh,
man, they sent you to do this.

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Really? That's how it felt to
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Unknown: Where's my bell?

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Bell? Bell? Well,

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thank you. Thank you. My bill,
you came to

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Adam Curry: the to the show
without your bell. It's just

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very um, no.

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Unknown: I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
Sounds good. Yes. But that's

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exactly what happened. And let
me explain to you how I took it.

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The way she jumped out the
window for you.

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Adam Curry: Love that phrase.

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Unknown: Right away, she went
back down. And she like I'm

433
00:27:31,260 --> 00:27:33,570
writing what, yay, he's my
friend. And I'm not going to

434
00:27:33,570 --> 00:27:38,580
choose between, you know, my job
and my friend. And when he left

435
00:27:38,580 --> 00:27:41,130
her high and dry, or she
couldn't go where he was trying

436
00:27:41,130 --> 00:27:44,370
to take it. Now. It's like,
Candace, you know what you got

437
00:27:44,370 --> 00:27:48,660
to do? You got to go out here.
You got to Kate like nobody's

438
00:27:48,660 --> 00:27:53,430
business. And that's what this
was. Because she was on her

439
00:27:53,430 --> 00:28:00,480
channel. She was on Tim pools
channel, calling him a B. Tch.

440
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,600
And which I felt was very
unbecoming. You know, I don't

441
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,630
like when women do that to men,
because those are fighting

442
00:28:06,630 --> 00:28:10,830
words. And, like, what are you
doing? You know, it's not like

443
00:28:10,830 --> 00:28:13,890
you shouldn't use words, if you
don't want to actual fight. I

444
00:28:13,890 --> 00:28:15,300
don't I don't like when people
do that.

445
00:28:15,990 --> 00:28:17,460
Adam Curry: I think she was
looking for a fight.

446
00:28:18,510 --> 00:28:20,700
Unknown: Oh, yeah, she was
looking for look for a response.

447
00:28:20,700 --> 00:28:24,270
So they can say, oh, looking at
my tacking the black woman, you

448
00:28:24,270 --> 00:28:27,870
know, it's like they want
everybody goes a group. I found

449
00:28:27,870 --> 00:28:31,320
this to be one of the most
fascinating situations because

450
00:28:31,650 --> 00:28:36,090
everything they claim they stand
for a window.

451
00:28:36,210 --> 00:28:38,550
Adam Curry: And that's thank you
for bringing for doing this

452
00:28:38,550 --> 00:28:41,700
because I really, you know, me,
I'm a white guy. So I didn't I

453
00:28:41,700 --> 00:28:44,250
didn't like that didn't register
that way to me immediately. But

454
00:28:44,250 --> 00:28:48,000
I guess deeper. It's like, Oh,
okay. It was very it because I

455
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,160
was looking at from the money
angle. And like, you know,

456
00:28:50,460 --> 00:28:53,370
here's what I say, Candace, you
got easy talking, you know, your

457
00:28:53,370 --> 00:28:57,120
husband's got, he's got a good
job. He's got cash, you know,

458
00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:00,420
he's he's involved in higher
levels of finance and

459
00:29:00,420 --> 00:29:03,780
technology. So you gotta you
gotta easy easy talking, you

460
00:29:03,780 --> 00:29:06,840
know, it's like, if she loses
her job, it's not the end of the

461
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,450
world necessarily for their
family. And you know, she got

462
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:11,070
one or two kids now.

463
00:29:12,780 --> 00:29:14,310
Unknown: And it's for her
though.

464
00:29:15,150 --> 00:29:18,600
Adam Curry: Right? But she but
her scruples are very low in my

465
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:22,050
book already, because when she
went all in on the freedom

466
00:29:22,050 --> 00:29:26,430
phone, which, you know, without
any research without, I mean, I

467
00:29:26,430 --> 00:29:28,860
immediately saw through this,
this is a scam has gotten I

468
00:29:28,890 --> 00:29:32,400
didn't get anything special. And
you know, she was advertised she

469
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:36,180
got paid to advertise it and she
was real cagey about that. Or,

470
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:39,120
like, you know, I don't just
take money from any outfit. Yes,

471
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:39,660
you do.

472
00:29:39,930 --> 00:29:43,350
Unknown: Yes. You do. You do.
Like her credit. Oprah.

473
00:29:44,130 --> 00:29:45,630
Oh, wow. Boo.

474
00:29:45,810 --> 00:29:50,190
I keep telling you. She wants to
be the case or Oprah. That's the

475
00:29:50,190 --> 00:29:54,120
whole thing. And that's she
tried to get off of the

476
00:29:54,150 --> 00:29:58,740
conservative train. hamster
wheel with yay. Because she

477
00:29:58,740 --> 00:30:02,640
wanted to go to the wider
culture and what's the thing is

478
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:06,030
she has think on her that would
never wash away. The way she

479
00:30:06,030 --> 00:30:10,740
handled the whole black lives
matter. Riots, saying they were

480
00:30:10,740 --> 00:30:14,700
chipping out, and how she
handled the George Floyd thing

481
00:30:14,910 --> 00:30:20,550
not being sensitive, and I don't
use that as Oh, she should have

482
00:30:20,550 --> 00:30:23,940
been catered for George Floyd.
But there's a time and a place

483
00:30:23,940 --> 00:30:27,150
and how you carry things if you
if you want to have a wider

484
00:30:27,150 --> 00:30:30,060
audience, and she kind of
slammed the door on that the way

485
00:30:30,060 --> 00:30:33,150
she handled it. And even for the
Superbowl, she's like, I don't

486
00:30:33,150 --> 00:30:37,740
see anything wrong with
Brianna's performance to try to

487
00:30:37,740 --> 00:30:41,280
get that. And she did the same
thing with the Super

488
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:48,570
Adam Curry: Bowl performance.
Yes. She's Red Queen, rising,

489
00:30:48,750 --> 00:30:52,080
fleas, fleas, and that was the
most Satanic Illuminati thing

490
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:53,040
I've seen in a while.

491
00:30:53,550 --> 00:30:57,420
Unknown: Is that the spiral
dancing at all? And then the

492
00:30:57,420 --> 00:30:57,960
triangle

493
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:00,000
Adam Curry: at the end, which
they tried to take off the TV,

494
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,520
but we all saw it. We saw the
shoot through the Illuminati

495
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:03,240
triangle.

496
00:31:03,660 --> 00:31:07,410
Unknown: Correct. And what's
even for Candace Oh, I didn't

497
00:31:07,410 --> 00:31:10,110
see anything wrong with it. It
was a great show. I disagree

498
00:31:10,110 --> 00:31:13,620
with Trump. You know, that kind
of thing. And she was my whole

499
00:31:13,620 --> 00:31:17,880
point is she's trying to cut her
way into mainstream culture.

500
00:31:18,270 --> 00:31:20,790
That's that's her wish she's
trying. I think her and boring

501
00:31:20,790 --> 00:31:21,660
have the same

502
00:31:24,030 --> 00:31:26,130
Adam Curry: blemishes mission
and initial mission.

503
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:29,190
Unknown: Yes. We're not
politics. That's why I think you

504
00:31:29,190 --> 00:31:32,280
said they're going away from
Well, yeah. micro machine, man.

505
00:31:32,310 --> 00:31:32,910
Yeah.

506
00:31:32,940 --> 00:31:35,160
Adam Curry: Are they going
towards movies? And I think that

507
00:31:35,190 --> 00:31:38,100
that will be a very Oprah ish
move. She wants to go into the

508
00:31:38,130 --> 00:31:41,370
big time with movies. And you
know, and of course, they

509
00:31:41,370 --> 00:31:45,510
already do books. Right? Yeah, I
can see that. Yeah, I can see

510
00:31:45,510 --> 00:31:49,440
that. Well, she she she got a
long way to go. If she wants to

511
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,180
be Oprah. Oprah is
sophisticated.

512
00:31:52,890 --> 00:31:53,760
Unknown: In her ways.

513
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:57,960
Yeah. And her and her madness.
Yeah, that's

514
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,060
Adam Curry: what I mean. Yes.
Yeah. No, it's actually horrible

515
00:32:00,060 --> 00:32:02,130
person, but she's sophisticated
in how she does it.

516
00:32:02,580 --> 00:32:06,780
Unknown: I have no qualms with
your statement. Ah, let's go

517
00:32:06,780 --> 00:32:11,610
ahead and get into the number
six part of this daily wire

518
00:32:11,610 --> 00:32:12,180
situation.

519
00:32:12,630 --> 00:32:16,350
Adam Curry: I still have clip
five. Number five. Okay, gotcha.

520
00:32:17,130 --> 00:32:20,820
Unknown: Gotcha. I'm sure you
would do this job for a mere $40

521
00:32:20,820 --> 00:32:22,140
million dollars. Right.

522
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:28,410
Of course, of course. You know,
I think this is such an

523
00:32:28,410 --> 00:32:32,610
interesting story. Because first
of all, did he not think that

524
00:32:32,610 --> 00:32:35,610
the $50 million was going to
like that the first thing the

525
00:32:35,610 --> 00:32:39,210
daily wire was going to do was
sort of leaked that. I mean,

526
00:32:39,210 --> 00:32:42,600
like, where did he think this
was going? I also had this

527
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,600
feeling watching the the Candace
Owens rant like I had the same

528
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:48,510
feeling I had when Elon Musk put
out his proposal for how to end

529
00:32:48,510 --> 00:32:50,340
the war in Ukraine, which I
thought was a really good

530
00:32:50,340 --> 00:32:53,160
proposal. And everybody started
attacking him and trashing him

531
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,320
and I was just thinking don't
make me Don't make me defend

532
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,480
this guy. Don't make me be on
his side. And I felt that way

533
00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:00,030
watching this, you know, Candace
Owens video she was absolutely

534
00:33:00,030 --> 00:33:03,600
right. And it was interesting to
see her coming out and set you

535
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,300
know, swinging on in support of
the de wire. Yes, she works

536
00:33:06,300 --> 00:33:10,620
there but they had a whole
kerfuffle over Kanye West if you

537
00:33:10,620 --> 00:33:14,070
recall, she kept defending Kanye
and defending him and defending

538
00:33:14,070 --> 00:33:16,980
him even as his sort of
commentary became more and more

539
00:33:16,980 --> 00:33:20,250
anti semitic until he ended up
defending Nazis. And she you

540
00:33:20,250 --> 00:33:22,500
know, she kept saying look, I'm
not going to denounce my friend

541
00:33:22,500 --> 00:33:25,740
which you know, fair point but
it made the wire look very bad

542
00:33:25,740 --> 00:33:27,630
because you know, Ben Shapiro
was getting a lot of flack for

543
00:33:27,630 --> 00:33:30,090
that. So you know, it seems that
you know, at that point you

544
00:33:30,090 --> 00:33:32,310
know, that whatever happened
there you know, I'm sure they

545
00:33:32,310 --> 00:33:35,550
were happy to see her coming out
you know, in full defense of the

546
00:33:35,550 --> 00:33:36,390
platform.

547
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:38,910
Adam Curry: Oh, man, I'm so glad
we're doing the show now and

548
00:33:38,910 --> 00:33:42,090
that we got delayed doing this
so you know, we're so we're not

549
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:44,850
we don't eat there's no way you
can accuse us of jumping on the

550
00:33:44,850 --> 00:33:48,540
pile. We're really dissecting
the bull crap that's going on

551
00:33:48,540 --> 00:33:53,280
here and and even how this this
girl says was still heat until

552
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:58,590
he started defending Nazis.
Okay. When I hear this just like

553
00:33:58,590 --> 00:34:03,300
look like like, you gotta have
aI voice on Twitter. That's how

554
00:34:03,300 --> 00:34:05,700
I hear these things. And the

555
00:34:05,700 --> 00:34:08,880
Unknown: funny thing about it
was the these are liberal

556
00:34:10,110 --> 00:34:14,370
reporters or journalists. It's
just a Hill talking heads. Yes,

557
00:34:14,370 --> 00:34:19,530
the heels. So they are shocked
that Crowder is worth $50

558
00:34:19,530 --> 00:34:22,470
million or more. That's the
thing that really got

559
00:34:23,189 --> 00:34:27,179
Adam Curry: that pisses him off
like why we're working here for

560
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,429
a buck. Like Buck 10

561
00:34:30,809 --> 00:34:34,019
Unknown: If that right, yeah,
exactly. It's like he's worth 50

562
00:34:34,019 --> 00:34:37,169
mil that that miss that kind of
money in the RED media. And that

563
00:34:37,169 --> 00:34:41,309
makes them starting to look at
they look different. Yeah. I

564
00:34:41,309 --> 00:34:46,739
might flip for a few million
dollars speaking out for them.

565
00:34:47,429 --> 00:34:52,019
But yes, like she she pointed
out that the whole everybody

566
00:34:52,019 --> 00:34:56,459
knew Candace Owens was off code
as far as not writing for her

567
00:34:56,459 --> 00:35:02,039
employer. And that's why I will
say that They made her go out

568
00:35:02,459 --> 00:35:06,509
and earn her keep. And that's
how I saw it. It might not be

569
00:35:06,509 --> 00:35:11,399
that way but that's how I saw
it. And this just confirms that

570
00:35:13,139 --> 00:35:16,049
the whoever he was doing a talk
I forget her name saw the same

571
00:35:16,049 --> 00:35:19,649
thing I saw, but that's what
Candice won't say in one way or

572
00:35:20,609 --> 00:35:24,659
the what she said Don't make me
agree with Candace Owens you

573
00:35:24,659 --> 00:35:28,529
know this is I've seen this kind
of mean pop up like don't make

574
00:35:28,559 --> 00:35:32,579
it came up when she was
supportive Magda stallion and

575
00:35:32,579 --> 00:35:37,319
the whole shooting situation
Yeah, she took make side right.

576
00:35:37,679 --> 00:35:41,219
And night I write with all the
people that quote unquote hate

577
00:35:41,219 --> 00:35:43,739
Candace Owens was like, don't
make me agree with Candace

578
00:35:43,739 --> 00:35:46,439
Owens. Why are you doing this to
me? Why are you making me agree

579
00:35:46,439 --> 00:35:50,429
with her? So that's common is a
whole it's a whole talking

580
00:35:50,429 --> 00:35:53,999
point. Interesting. And she even
repeated it there in the clip.

581
00:35:53,999 --> 00:35:59,639
So yeah, um, so I guess now we
talked enough about candidates,

582
00:35:59,639 --> 00:36:03,059
I guess we can go jump right in
and listen to her word for word

583
00:36:03,059 --> 00:36:04,769
unless you got something. No,
no, I'm

584
00:36:04,770 --> 00:36:06,540
Adam Curry: good. Let's go to
word for word.

585
00:36:06,570 --> 00:36:09,180
Unknown: At the end of the day.
I think what happened? This is

586
00:36:09,180 --> 00:36:12,510
my completely my opinion, by the
way. So I'm not blinking twice,

587
00:36:12,510 --> 00:36:15,390
not under duress. Is that see?
Because I became a free agent.

588
00:36:15,420 --> 00:36:15,720
And

589
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,890
Adam Curry: I'm not blinking
twice under duress. In other

590
00:36:19,890 --> 00:36:23,580
words, yeah, you are you were
told to say like, I wasn't what

591
00:36:23,580 --> 00:36:27,330
she's saying. There's I wasn't
told to say this. But of course,

592
00:36:27,720 --> 00:36:30,900
but of course you were Candice.
That's why you said I've been

593
00:36:30,900 --> 00:36:33,030
around. I'm old. Now. I know how
this

594
00:36:33,630 --> 00:36:36,900
Unknown: day. I think what
happened? This is my completely

595
00:36:36,900 --> 00:36:39,510
my opinion, by the way. So not
blinking, twice, not under

596
00:36:39,510 --> 00:36:42,720
duress is that Steven Crowder,
became a free agent. And he's

597
00:36:42,720 --> 00:36:45,030
feeling a little vulnerable
right now. Right? He's used to

598
00:36:45,030 --> 00:36:47,430
working for other organizations,
he has some guaranteed pay.

599
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:51,750
Adam Curry: Also, the incessant
use of write means that she's

600
00:36:51,750 --> 00:36:54,960
trying to convince us and she
does not do this. Typically,

601
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:59,850
her. Her vocabulary is a little
more controlled when she's not

602
00:36:59,850 --> 00:37:02,220
trying to do things that are
unnatural isn't this is not

603
00:37:02,220 --> 00:37:04,860
probably natural for her. But
she's trying to convince us of

604
00:37:04,860 --> 00:37:07,110
something. That's why she keeps
saying, right, right, right.

605
00:37:07,110 --> 00:37:10,680
Which is not a typical thing for
her that I can

606
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,560
Unknown: pick up on it too. I'm
glad because when you see your

607
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:16,560
own, like guest spots on tuck,
or wherever else, she's very

608
00:37:17,700 --> 00:37:20,640
Adam Curry: tight, you gotta
gotta tight. She doesn't have to

609
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,700
say, right, you know, Tucker
will do that for her. So all

610
00:37:23,700 --> 00:37:23,910
right

611
00:37:23,940 --> 00:37:25,650
Unknown: now, right. He's used
to working for other

612
00:37:25,650 --> 00:37:28,470
organizations, he has some
guaranteed pay. And he thought

613
00:37:28,470 --> 00:37:31,080
that daily wire, were actually
going to meet him at $120

614
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,810
million. They didn't, they
declined. And he's still feeling

615
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,570
a little shaky on that. It's,
it's scary to go out on your

616
00:37:36,570 --> 00:37:38,610
own. I thought about it, I
thought I'm going to go out on

617
00:37:38,610 --> 00:37:40,470
my own. It's a lot of work,
maybe down the line, I will, but

618
00:37:40,470 --> 00:37:43,620
it's a scary thing to go out to
step out on your own and say,

619
00:37:43,620 --> 00:37:46,950
I'm going to do this thing
completely by myself. As Jeremy

620
00:37:46,950 --> 00:37:50,430
pointed out, he has not done
that before. Right. And so to do

621
00:37:50,430 --> 00:37:54,090
this, he pulled a move in which
he was going to try to take a

622
00:37:54,090 --> 00:37:56,850
bunch of people that were
subscribed to The Daily wire and

623
00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:00,240
start his own company. So
essentially, say, I'm the hero.

624
00:38:00,240 --> 00:38:03,570
I'm the martyr, follow me
because I'm not like those guys.

625
00:38:03,570 --> 00:38:05,880
Then he was wanting to start his
own shop. And that's what he's

626
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:07,800
trying to do. And some people
fell for it and said, I'm with

627
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:12,060
you to the UN, a mug club till I
die and didn't understand that

628
00:38:12,060 --> 00:38:15,300
really, nothing happened here
other than nobody wanted to pay

629
00:38:15,300 --> 00:38:19,320
Steven Crowder, $120 million. So
we turned to his viewers who he

630
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:22,410
thinks are stupid, stupid
athletes on top associations

631
00:38:22,410 --> 00:38:25,770
work, right? Like this is like
normal, get back and forth. And

632
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:28,920
they were gonna make up for his
loss. So people that are upset

633
00:38:28,950 --> 00:38:31,740
by his video, the millions of
millions people who watched it

634
00:38:31,890 --> 00:38:34,860
are now going to give him $1
Whatever it costs being the mug

635
00:38:34,860 --> 00:38:37,410
club, and they're going to
become the 100 and $20 million

636
00:38:37,710 --> 00:38:38,790
that he feels like he deserves.

637
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,330
Adam Curry: But okay, so thank
you very much. This is a perfect

638
00:38:42,330 --> 00:38:46,350
clip. Except Candace turns it
around here and says, Oh, no,

639
00:38:46,350 --> 00:38:50,790
I'm gonna steal people from the
daily wire. The daily wire in

640
00:38:50,790 --> 00:38:57,960
everything I saw from Mr. Boring
was that they would love to have

641
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:01,650
his 300,000 people and that's
what they just kept saying,

642
00:39:01,650 --> 00:39:04,680
Well, can you show us the list?
We want to see that you have

643
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:08,640
300,000 paying members, because
I believe it I believe I believe

644
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:14,040
he has maybe not 300,000 But
he's got 100,000 At least, that

645
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:16,800
Unknown: obviously he's making
money. He's making some bank. I

646
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:18,570
mean, it speaks for itself. You

647
00:39:18,570 --> 00:39:24,660
Adam Curry: have 2025 people.
That is a you know, that's like

648
00:39:24,660 --> 00:39:29,910
a $12 million prob that's
probably outdated. I'd like a

649
00:39:29,910 --> 00:39:36,990
$12 million payroll. Which by
the way, I don't know why. This

650
00:39:36,990 --> 00:39:39,510
is this is always video
probably. But it's always

651
00:39:39,510 --> 00:39:43,350
baffled me why you need so many
people to do a podcast, which is

652
00:39:43,350 --> 00:39:46,410
kind of what he should just be
doing. I love his on the street

653
00:39:46,410 --> 00:39:49,770
stuff, you know, change my mind.
I love that. But Candace is

654
00:39:49,770 --> 00:39:53,100
turning it around here. And
again, this proves to me that

655
00:39:53,100 --> 00:39:56,790
she is she just turned
everything upside down. Whereas

656
00:39:56,790 --> 00:39:59,970
he really didn't want to give up
his mug club that cheaply.

657
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,850
That's That's what I see
happening here. He didn't want

658
00:40:02,850 --> 00:40:06,960
to just give that up. And
although it was never in the, in

659
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:09,840
the stuff that he aired, and I'm
sure he didn't hear everything.

660
00:40:10,170 --> 00:40:13,140
I think the negotiation was
really about that, Oh, do you

661
00:40:13,140 --> 00:40:15,540
want to take my mug club but
then if I leave, do I get it

662
00:40:15,540 --> 00:40:18,600
back? I think that's what it was
about. He didn't want to hand

663
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:21,120
his subscribers over four $50
million.

664
00:40:22,829 --> 00:40:26,819
Unknown: And I just gotta lay it
out here. And I'm gonna circle

665
00:40:26,819 --> 00:40:31,799
back to use our tip. But I have
to lay out here because we're

666
00:40:31,799 --> 00:40:36,419
falling right into the trap they
wanted us to do. They want us to

667
00:40:36,419 --> 00:40:41,039
talk about the money. Right?
That's why the money became the

668
00:40:41,099 --> 00:40:46,709
issue. The Money, money, money,
money, money. You heard. Right,

669
00:40:46,739 --> 00:40:50,729
you heard it he'll talk about it
was the $50 million course is

670
00:40:50,759 --> 00:40:56,549
it's not about the money. It's
about the daily why you're

671
00:40:56,669 --> 00:41:02,549
working for big tech. And who
controls big tech? The FBI.

672
00:41:03,329 --> 00:41:07,319
Hello, yes. Have we not seen it?
Tweety, Tweety leaks. You are

673
00:41:07,319 --> 00:41:12,089
saying? This is this. This is
why they started bringing up the

674
00:41:12,089 --> 00:41:14,279
money let's like move. Let's
move

675
00:41:15,390 --> 00:41:17,010
Adam Curry: money away. Yeah.

676
00:41:17,130 --> 00:41:20,550
Unknown: Because what he's
accusing us of is being part of

677
00:41:20,550 --> 00:41:25,800
the unit party and their issues,
even us anti conservative anti

678
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,860
Republican toggle, I thought was
free market. I thought it was

679
00:41:28,890 --> 00:41:32,370
you know, if somebody could come
take your market. Now, as long

680
00:41:32,370 --> 00:41:36,090
as this ain't no less
regulation. Isn't that what they

681
00:41:36,090 --> 00:41:40,860
want? Yeah. But it's not. Now
it's Oh, he's not playing with

682
00:41:40,860 --> 00:41:44,040
me. You know, he's not playing
fair ball. He you know, he's

683
00:41:44,070 --> 00:41:47,310
he's playing underhanded. I
thought that was what free

684
00:41:47,310 --> 00:41:51,720
market and capitalism was all
about. As long as not expressly

685
00:41:51,750 --> 00:41:56,010
illegal. It's fair game. So
they're going against their

686
00:41:56,010 --> 00:42:01,290
whole ideology to deflect the
fact that they work for the

687
00:42:01,290 --> 00:42:06,720
government. Point blank period.
And I'm going to prove it. Yeah.

688
00:42:06,720 --> 00:42:09,060
Goes all right. Oh, okay.

689
00:42:09,060 --> 00:42:11,640
Adam Curry: Hold on. Let me just
make tilt the lazy boy back for

690
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:12,090
a second.

691
00:42:12,900 --> 00:42:15,930
Unknown: Because I saw was going
down to money pack, which that

692
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:19,680
they want us to sit here have a
three hour podcast about the

693
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:23,820
money, which the money is not
important at all, he's worth

694
00:42:23,820 --> 00:42:26,550
what he's worth, you know that
if he was about the money, they

695
00:42:26,550 --> 00:42:30,690
would negotiation, Nick gets to
some selling point is the fact

696
00:42:30,690 --> 00:42:34,710
that when he got that contract,
and says, You have to stay

697
00:42:34,710 --> 00:42:39,450
inside what big tech says that
you have to stay inside of he,

698
00:42:39,630 --> 00:42:44,580
I'm just putting myself in his
shoes. Like, say you Rica.

699
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:49,410
Adam Curry: Now hold on. I do
want to, because of course, you

700
00:42:49,410 --> 00:42:54,750
know, that's where the whole big
con comes from. This is very

701
00:42:54,750 --> 00:43:00,690
analogous to what happened with
Spotify. Where Spotify bought

702
00:43:00,690 --> 00:43:04,800
Bill Simmons, sports POD
Network, what was I called

703
00:43:04,830 --> 00:43:10,260
sports something, you know, me
in sport for $300 million. And

704
00:43:10,260 --> 00:43:12,930
they had Joe Rogan. And they you
know, and then they they

705
00:43:12,930 --> 00:43:15,510
internally, this was a big story
just recently, and they

706
00:43:15,510 --> 00:43:18,330
internally wanted to say, All
right, now we're going to lock

707
00:43:18,330 --> 00:43:20,850
it off, you're not going to be
able to get any of these

708
00:43:20,850 --> 00:43:24,540
podcasts anywhere, except on
Spotify. So Joe Rogan is already

709
00:43:24,540 --> 00:43:27,360
that way. We're not going to
have Bill Simmons network go out

710
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:30,900
anywhere, but on Spotify. And it
was Bill Simmons who said, Ah,

711
00:43:31,140 --> 00:43:35,250
we will not be able to perform
against your metrics that are

712
00:43:35,250 --> 00:43:39,630
given to us based upon the
acquisition if we're not on

713
00:43:40,050 --> 00:43:43,560
Apple and YouTube and all these
other places, because the

714
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:48,060
advertising just won't have
enough reach. So there is some

715
00:43:48,060 --> 00:43:51,720
validity to the business model
that they are proposing. But

716
00:43:51,720 --> 00:43:56,130
that business model is exactly
what it has always been stay

717
00:43:56,130 --> 00:43:58,950
within the lines don't get
kicked off don't get D

718
00:43:58,950 --> 00:44:01,500
platformed. And that's the
leverage and it's always been

719
00:44:01,500 --> 00:44:03,690
there to curtail first free
speech.

720
00:44:04,470 --> 00:44:08,040
Unknown: Correct And that proves
that they're not really all

721
00:44:08,070 --> 00:44:09,870
media they're not really

722
00:44:09,989 --> 00:44:12,119
Adam Curry: of course not. If
you're if you're if you're

723
00:44:12,119 --> 00:44:16,829
taking ads no you're not it's
that is the lever that is the

724
00:44:16,829 --> 00:44:20,159
worst. That is worse than you
might as well just go staying on

725
00:44:20,159 --> 00:44:21,239
site with no clothes on.

726
00:44:22,710 --> 00:44:27,900
Unknown: Our if you said our
advertisers are not happy that'd

727
00:44:27,900 --> 00:44:32,820
be one thing. But when you can
say YouTube's not happy or big

728
00:44:32,820 --> 00:44:37,560
Tex not happy and naked shut you
down right right in this crowd

729
00:44:37,590 --> 00:44:39,870
in this mule you are you're
saying whatever you want to call

730
00:44:39,870 --> 00:44:46,230
it weren't is that sacrilege?
What you am big tech control

731
00:44:46,230 --> 00:44:49,800
that we are rumble. We got him
say all these alternate things

732
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:57,900
Rumble is I know. What I'm just
saying is this is the we've

733
00:44:57,900 --> 00:45:01,920
carved out our own lane kind of
thing, and we want it here to

734
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:04,920
what, this is why we left while
I'm walking away. You know, that

735
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:07,350
was how can this whole thing
about the Republican and

736
00:45:07,350 --> 00:45:11,280
Democrat, we're walking away
anyway. But right now you're

737
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:15,240
just saying they're just another
plantation. That's that's all

738
00:45:15,240 --> 00:45:18,180
they are you think you have a
choice when you're going over

739
00:45:18,180 --> 00:45:20,370
the air between the two, but
you're just going right into the

740
00:45:20,370 --> 00:45:23,280
same trap as you would if the
hill Correct. All right, you're

741
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:25,920
saying or MSNBC or anywhere
else, it's like you have to

742
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:28,650
subscribe to the thought, well,
it's

743
00:45:28,679 --> 00:45:31,829
Adam Curry: okay. So the money
is actually it's reinforcing,

744
00:45:31,829 --> 00:45:35,129
because that's why they talked
about it right here. And and by

745
00:45:35,129 --> 00:45:38,789
the way, that was the vortex
first first response, because I

746
00:45:38,789 --> 00:45:42,179
know John, I love him. But it's
all indefinitely. It's like,

747
00:45:42,329 --> 00:45:45,599
what if they offered 50 million
for no agenda? I convinced you

748
00:45:45,599 --> 00:45:48,389
you do it? I said, No, I
wouldn't. He said, Yeah, you

749
00:45:48,389 --> 00:45:52,379
would just for a couple of
years. Stick it out. No, no, no,

750
00:45:52,409 --> 00:45:55,889
I got a lot more left than you
rather No, no, no, no. And

751
00:45:55,889 --> 00:45:57,899
that's what the hill was
basically saying, well, for $50

752
00:45:57,899 --> 00:46:01,409
million, you know, I'll do
anything. That's pretty how my

753
00:46:01,409 --> 00:46:05,729
mama for feed me and I'll even
work for the conservative. The

754
00:46:05,729 --> 00:46:09,089
daily wire for 50 million bucks.
That's what's going on here.

755
00:46:09,720 --> 00:46:13,350
Unknown: Right? Like
masterpiece, if I'm if you offer

756
00:46:13,350 --> 00:46:17,370
me to me, and I must be worth 4
million. That's the mass. That's

757
00:46:17,370 --> 00:46:21,330
the actual free mindset.
Whatever you you're saying,

758
00:46:21,330 --> 00:46:27,600
however, you set my valuation, I
gotta wait for you to make money

759
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:30,150
off of me. I have to be worth
more than you're offering me

760
00:46:30,150 --> 00:46:33,000
correct. That's just logic. I
mean, that's mathematical logic.

761
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:37,290
So let's go ahead and get into
the second part of Candace Owens

762
00:46:37,290 --> 00:46:38,340
own Steven Crowder.

763
00:46:38,639 --> 00:46:41,639
First of all, we're gonna say
this unrelatable unrelatable.

764
00:46:41,729 --> 00:46:44,009
People are trying to pay for
bacon and eggs right now at the

765
00:46:44,009 --> 00:46:46,769
grocery store, trying to buy a
steak once a week. And you're

766
00:46:46,769 --> 00:46:48,719
over here crying because
somebody couldn't meet you at

767
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:51,479
$120 million. And it is crying.
I don't like it. It was a total

768
00:46:51,479 --> 00:46:54,869
bitch move. There are plenty of
things that happen across all

769
00:46:54,869 --> 00:46:56,489
organizations in the
conservative movement, where I

770
00:46:56,489 --> 00:47:01,829
will say that I empathize. And
with Steven Crowder, I'm saying

771
00:47:01,829 --> 00:47:03,599
that sometimes you feel like a
cynic. We're just like, is

772
00:47:03,599 --> 00:47:06,089
everybody selling out? Are
people doing this people doing

773
00:47:06,089 --> 00:47:08,759
that? There are a lot of things
that Daley wire has done that I

774
00:47:08,759 --> 00:47:10,589
disagree with? There's a lot of
things that turning points on

775
00:47:10,589 --> 00:47:13,559
this that I disagree with. There
are things perhaps that Prager

776
00:47:13,559 --> 00:47:16,019
you has done that I disagree
with, I have worked with all of

777
00:47:16,019 --> 00:47:20,309
these companies, right. But to
do a total bitch move and go out

778
00:47:20,309 --> 00:47:22,589
to the public, rather than
trying to resolve these things

779
00:47:22,589 --> 00:47:24,749
in these in these slight
differences behind the scenes.

780
00:47:24,869 --> 00:47:26,879
And to make it seem like you're
over here on You're the true

781
00:47:26,879 --> 00:47:29,879
one, you keep it authentic when
something really nothing

782
00:47:29,939 --> 00:47:33,479
happened. Or then you didn't
like an initial term sheet. And

783
00:47:33,479 --> 00:47:35,249
all you had to do was tell them
that and tell them what you

784
00:47:35,249 --> 00:47:37,019
didn't like and go back and
forth with lawyers like

785
00:47:37,019 --> 00:47:39,239
everybody else. And by the way,
the last thing I'm gonna say

786
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:41,249
because I'm going on Tim Poole
sites, I'm gonna say it anyways

787
00:47:41,249 --> 00:47:45,899
later, is that I'm pretty sure,
wasn't it? Steven Crowder, who

788
00:47:45,899 --> 00:47:49,229
also screwed over somebody who
used to work with Was it not gay

789
00:47:49,229 --> 00:47:52,019
Jared? Because he had them tied
up in a contract? Wasn't that

790
00:47:52,049 --> 00:47:54,629
Steven Crowder? Who did that? So
is he supposed to be the moral

791
00:47:54,629 --> 00:47:56,399
high bar? We're not supposed to
call him out for that here.

792
00:47:56,429 --> 00:47:59,549
Here's the even why don't you
release not gay Jared from his

793
00:47:59,549 --> 00:48:02,729
NDA, and allow him to talk about
how he felt he was treated by

794
00:48:02,729 --> 00:48:06,029
you because I know that at the
blaze, everyone says that you're

795
00:48:06,029 --> 00:48:08,549
actually not that nice. You
treat people poorly. But you

796
00:48:08,549 --> 00:48:10,589
bring in so much revenue that
everybody just has to take it.

797
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:16,650
Adam Curry: Wow, talk about
airing the dirty laundry. I love

798
00:48:16,650 --> 00:48:21,120
it. I hadn't heard this. Oh,
yeah. I love

799
00:48:21,119 --> 00:48:25,799
Unknown: it. And she brings up a
valid point. It does this Steven

800
00:48:25,799 --> 00:48:30,509
Crowder have way slaves we need
to overturn this media slave

801
00:48:31,229 --> 00:48:34,889
narrative racket they got they
got going. Not narrative. Oh,

802
00:48:34,889 --> 00:48:39,599
no. Definitely a real thing.
Well, and

803
00:48:40,650 --> 00:48:45,570
Adam Curry: I just want to say I
when I worked at MTV, I got

804
00:48:45,570 --> 00:48:49,470
fired seven times. Because I
wouldn't do it. They never there

805
00:48:49,470 --> 00:48:52,470
was never any stipulation. Like
you got to do this. You got to

806
00:48:52,470 --> 00:48:55,650
do that. You got to you got to
never talk negative about the

807
00:48:55,650 --> 00:49:01,260
artists and date day to day to
day. They brought me up to the

808
00:49:01,260 --> 00:49:03,870
press office Carol Robinson
always remember Carol Robins

809
00:49:03,900 --> 00:49:07,770
nice lady by the way. And and,
and this okay, we said we got to

810
00:49:07,770 --> 00:49:12,120
interview with TV Guide now mind
is 87 TV Guide was the biggest

811
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:16,380
magazine in America. Everyone.
Everyone read the TV Guide. And

812
00:49:16,380 --> 00:49:19,380
we had Yeah, of course, it was
just gonna be a little a little

813
00:49:19,380 --> 00:49:22,620
blur. But you know, the Intrado
the new VJ at MTV where I come

814
00:49:22,620 --> 00:49:25,770
from, and oh, you know, who have
you met? I met Madonna which I

815
00:49:25,770 --> 00:49:28,500
didn't she wasn't very nice. She
was pretty insincere. Carol

816
00:49:28,500 --> 00:49:31,200
Robinson I thought she was going
to faint because she was no of

817
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:34,350
course listening to this to this
call. And when and when I was

818
00:49:34,350 --> 00:49:37,080
done. I said well, how did you
think I did? I can't believe you

819
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:40,950
said that about Madonna. I can't
believe we were trying to get

820
00:49:40,950 --> 00:49:45,690
here for the VMAs I can't
believe that you. I said oh, and

821
00:49:45,690 --> 00:49:49,110
right then and there. I knew
okay. This is how it's gonna

822
00:49:49,110 --> 00:49:52,500
work. So I always fought against
it. And it did not work. You

823
00:49:52,500 --> 00:49:55,320
know, look, they don't invite me
back for their big reunion

824
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:59,850
shows. You don't see Adam doing,
you know, a retro a segment on

825
00:49:59,850 --> 00:50:01,110
the show. Video Music Awards.

826
00:50:01,949 --> 00:50:05,969
Unknown: This is what we call a
habitual line stepper. Adam, you

827
00:50:05,969 --> 00:50:12,929
are a habitual line stepper. as
I as I as I am I actually have a

828
00:50:12,929 --> 00:50:16,499
T shirt that I was given by a
producer that actually says this

829
00:50:16,589 --> 00:50:22,919
habitual line stepper and NAS I
think where we meet it. That's

830
00:50:22,919 --> 00:50:26,519
that's the, the connective
tissue between me and you

831
00:50:26,519 --> 00:50:29,909
because I can't be bald?
Honestly,

832
00:50:29,969 --> 00:50:32,549
Adam Curry: no, we know you're
very principal. And of course,

833
00:50:32,549 --> 00:50:34,289
right we both believe in reptile
people.

834
00:50:35,429 --> 00:50:39,179
Unknown: Correct Correct.
connection when they want to

835
00:50:39,179 --> 00:50:43,109
make it about the money. It's
not It's never about the money

836
00:50:43,109 --> 00:50:47,369
because not publicly because
these deals get worked out. I

837
00:50:47,369 --> 00:50:50,009
mean, it's just a matter you
know, what percentage, what

838
00:50:50,009 --> 00:50:53,909
number how many million? The
other reason? I think that they

839
00:50:53,939 --> 00:50:57,809
made this situation about the
money because if you make it

840
00:50:57,809 --> 00:51:00,869
about the money, and you have
Jewish people involved, you

841
00:51:00,869 --> 00:51:03,239
always get played an anti
semitic card.

842
00:51:03,690 --> 00:51:05,910
Adam Curry: You're so smart.
Yeah, exactly.

843
00:51:07,530 --> 00:51:11,280
Unknown: And I have a clip here.
I think this is from Young

844
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:15,330
Turks. Alex Jones gave his two
cents and I cannot Can I just

845
00:51:15,330 --> 00:51:19,530
say something about Alex Jones,
you? subscriber, you and I both

846
00:51:19,530 --> 00:51:22,500
subscribed to the value for
value. But I think selling your

847
00:51:22,500 --> 00:51:26,580
own product is really the only
alternative to you know, if you

848
00:51:26,580 --> 00:51:30,750
don't want to be under contract.
You know, it's a lot of work. I

849
00:51:30,750 --> 00:51:35,340
got it. But I think that's the
only other way. Um,

850
00:51:35,369 --> 00:51:38,189
Adam Curry: but it's a very
successful model, which I'm too

851
00:51:38,189 --> 00:51:42,539
lazy for it. I don't like it. I
don't know, mostly is T shirts

852
00:51:42,539 --> 00:51:45,719
and swag, which is all kind of
what NPR does. You know, a

853
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:50,759
public radio, you got a tote bag
or a coffee mug. Yes, Alex Jones

854
00:51:50,759 --> 00:51:55,229
is up. And I've seen his
operation. Many times his his

855
00:51:55,229 --> 00:51:58,049
studio is impressive. But his
warehouse is even more

856
00:51:58,049 --> 00:52:00,839
impressive. And he's got you
know, that's where all the staff

857
00:52:00,839 --> 00:52:03,839
is, is moving that stuff out.
You know, he's always shooting

858
00:52:03,839 --> 00:52:08,309
promos evaluating products. So
yeah, he's, to me, that would

859
00:52:08,309 --> 00:52:11,819
drive me crazy. I want to focus
on that. Maybe that's why Alex

860
00:52:11,819 --> 00:52:15,119
has been driven crazy. I just
want to focus on what I do and

861
00:52:15,119 --> 00:52:18,179
do the best of what I do. And I
want to die. Like what we do the

862
00:52:18,179 --> 00:52:22,139
value to come from the people
who are who are receiving value.

863
00:52:22,139 --> 00:52:25,559
I want to get it back. And I'll
ask for it. Not shy about it.

864
00:52:26,129 --> 00:52:29,519
Right. But yes, that is that you
had to wear two hats. Yes. And

865
00:52:29,519 --> 00:52:33,809
it's or you have to have a whole
nother organization. It's a pain

866
00:52:33,809 --> 00:52:37,259
in the ass. It's not, I just
never saw it as something I

867
00:52:37,259 --> 00:52:38,219
would be able to do.

868
00:52:38,820 --> 00:52:41,340
Unknown: Right? Well, I was just
making that point that that's

869
00:52:41,340 --> 00:52:48,900
the only alternative if you want
to be actually free is you know

870
00:52:48,930 --> 00:52:52,290
is to have your own goods. But
that's, I think that's the only

871
00:52:52,290 --> 00:52:55,620
two ways you could do it or just
take a vow of poverty and just

872
00:52:55,620 --> 00:52:56,640
work for nothing.

873
00:52:57,599 --> 00:53:00,599
Adam Curry: Well, what we do
value for value is is close to

874
00:53:00,599 --> 00:53:07,469
that. But but you know, by the
same token you can say Hey,

875
00:53:07,469 --> 00:53:11,279
Adam, you know what, I need two
more days. Something new came to

876
00:53:11,279 --> 00:53:15,149
light, we'll move it over. I can
say shit, you know, we're our

877
00:53:15,149 --> 00:53:19,709
own. I think that freedom right
it to me is much better than an

878
00:53:19,709 --> 00:53:22,709
additional $60 million and all
the headache that comes with it.

879
00:53:23,309 --> 00:53:26,819
Unknown: And and we're gonna get
like I said this this show is

880
00:53:26,819 --> 00:53:30,869
going to be it goes deeper than
this. But now we got to get to

881
00:53:30,869 --> 00:53:35,759
the other reasons and take it to
the money. Alex Jones goals anti

882
00:53:35,759 --> 00:53:38,129
semitic. And there's some good
people that

883
00:53:38,130 --> 00:53:40,470
Elimar I don't want to attack
them all. But I'm going to tell

884
00:53:40,470 --> 00:53:43,860
you folks, there's they are
worse than the Democrats. They

885
00:53:43,860 --> 00:53:47,940
are the Judas goats. They are
Judas Iscariot. Ben Shapiro is

886
00:53:47,970 --> 00:53:48,990
Judas Iscariot.

887
00:53:50,940 --> 00:53:55,140
That's Alex Jones taking sides
with Steven Crowder in the feud

888
00:53:55,140 --> 00:53:59,790
between him and Ben Shapiro and
everybody featured at the Daily

889
00:53:59,790 --> 00:54:03,600
wire and of course making an
anti semitic comment in the

890
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:06,240
meantime, before we get to more
of Alex Jones, we'd like to give

891
00:54:06,240 --> 00:54:10,380
a special someone who predicted
that the right wing would vote

892
00:54:10,380 --> 00:54:12,960
would turn on Ben Shapiro.
During Ben's argument in

893
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:15,840
candidate with Candace Owens and
Kanye West, we like to give them

894
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:18,390
a little credit. So who was it?
Take a look.

895
00:54:19,710 --> 00:54:21,930
The Research Bureau is in a
tough spot as we explained on

896
00:54:21,930 --> 00:54:25,350
day one the minute Candace Owens
said her defensive Kenny was

897
00:54:25,350 --> 00:54:29,340
like, oh, Shapiro screwed
because now if he fires her

898
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:34,740
people go oh, cancel culture odd
I would get the bird does do for

899
00:54:34,740 --> 00:54:39,510
you is Bucha. Right, and a ton
of the right wing or anti

900
00:54:39,510 --> 00:54:43,260
Semites. And so he set up his
camp in the middle of a nest of

901
00:54:43,260 --> 00:54:46,860
vipers. And so all of a sudden
he looks around and he goes, Oh,

902
00:54:46,860 --> 00:54:49,080
I woke up and it turns out this
Vipers everywhere.

903
00:54:50,460 --> 00:54:51,600
Adam Curry: Wow.

904
00:54:53,429 --> 00:54:55,139
Unknown: The other reason why
you take the conversation to

905
00:54:55,139 --> 00:54:55,559
money,

906
00:54:56,130 --> 00:54:59,760
Adam Curry: no kidding. And this
is also disappointing. It makes

907
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:03,450
it It really makes it all makes
all them look like to me just

908
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:07,470
complete, worthless people who
cares? Not now I don't know

909
00:55:07,470 --> 00:55:11,250
until I Grifters. Why don't want
a lot? Yeah, yeah, in a way

910
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:16,230
Grifters? Yes, sure. Sure. Big
con for Crowder has more rights

911
00:55:16,230 --> 00:55:17,520
than I thought he was
interesting.

912
00:55:18,269 --> 00:55:24,539
Unknown: Yeah. And like, the
whole idea of getting that on

913
00:55:24,539 --> 00:55:29,489
tape in getting the wage slaves
in how they're trying to wrangle

914
00:55:29,489 --> 00:55:32,459
all the up and coming talent and
get them under contract so they

915
00:55:32,459 --> 00:55:37,769
can control them. It will it
will. It was good business. From

916
00:55:37,769 --> 00:55:42,299
business standpoint of it. You
eliminate he understands one

917
00:55:42,299 --> 00:55:45,029
competitor to blaze because he
worked there. Oh, yeah. And then

918
00:55:45,029 --> 00:55:50,819
you can completely eliminate
maybe the biggest outside of Fox

919
00:55:50,819 --> 00:55:53,309
News by only considering him
you're saying that conversation

920
00:55:53,309 --> 00:55:57,269
but you say into quote unquote,
independent appearing media.

921
00:55:58,559 --> 00:56:01,709
That will be the daily daily
wire. I don't know why it's

922
00:56:01,709 --> 00:56:05,069
gonna say Daily Mail for some
reason, but the daily wire, so

923
00:56:05,129 --> 00:56:09,719
he got rid of them, he
understands the blaze. There's a

924
00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:14,609
lot of market share there. And
he already has 100, some 1000,

925
00:56:14,609 --> 00:56:20,879
like you said, 200 to 300,000.
Strong coming in. Yep. And he

926
00:56:20,879 --> 00:56:26,399
creates himself as the I'm, I'm
Moses here to free you from the

927
00:56:26,429 --> 00:56:35,249
from the big con. I'm sorry.
Like it, I like it. But now you

928
00:56:35,249 --> 00:56:38,609
see going to the money
automatically becomes anti

929
00:56:38,609 --> 00:56:41,399
semitic, you're talking about
money, you're talking about a

930
00:56:41,399 --> 00:56:45,329
Jewish person, it has to be anti
semitic. And you saw the left

931
00:56:45,329 --> 00:56:49,109
hand media, jump right on it,
and run with the talking point

932
00:56:49,109 --> 00:56:53,009
that that the Young Turks do. So
this goes on, you want to hear

933
00:56:53,009 --> 00:56:54,029
more, of course.

934
00:56:56,099 --> 00:57:00,539
So the Judas Iscariot line is a
deeply anti semitic trope. It's

935
00:57:00,539 --> 00:57:06,629
been used for centuries,
millennia. And so when he calls

936
00:57:06,629 --> 00:57:13,169
Ben Shapiro who's Jewish, Judas,
that's not subtle at all. He's

937
00:57:13,169 --> 00:57:16,949
basically saying, look at the
goddamn Jew, okay. And it's

938
00:57:16,979 --> 00:57:22,079
terrible, but it's terrible to
all of us. For right wingers,

939
00:57:22,079 --> 00:57:24,869
this kind of music to their
ears. Why do you would so hold

940
00:57:24,869 --> 00:57:27,449
George Soros thing? Me? You
think they're worried about

941
00:57:27,539 --> 00:57:30,329
donors that everybody should be
worried about donors, but no,

942
00:57:30,359 --> 00:57:32,639
they never talk about the Koch
brothers or other democratic

943
00:57:32,639 --> 00:57:35,009
donors that are Christian,
right? Pelosi has raised a

944
00:57:35,009 --> 00:57:37,319
billion dollars, the
overwhelming majority from

945
00:57:37,319 --> 00:57:39,389
Christians, but they never
talked about that. They always

946
00:57:39,389 --> 00:57:43,199
talk about Soros because he's
Jewish. Right. Yeah. So Shapiro,

947
00:57:43,229 --> 00:57:45,929
I thought, oh, no, Judeo
Christian heritage. Yeah. How's

948
00:57:45,929 --> 00:57:49,709
that working out for you? So no,
they were always anti Semites.

949
00:57:49,919 --> 00:57:52,499
The whole thing was, oh, we
support Israel so much, you know

950
00:57:52,499 --> 00:57:57,479
why? Right? And times theology.
So that at the end, Israel and

951
00:57:57,479 --> 00:57:59,999
all the Jews that lived there
are destroyed and murdered

952
00:57:59,999 --> 00:58:04,289
except for 144,000 that convert
to Christianity. So the whole

953
00:58:04,289 --> 00:58:07,709
thing of like, Oh, we love the
Jews is so we love the Jews, so

954
00:58:07,709 --> 00:58:09,899
you can all get murdered in our
Armageddon.

955
00:58:10,739 --> 00:58:15,809
Adam Curry: Wow, wow. being
relatively new to the Bible, but

956
00:58:15,809 --> 00:58:19,019
having read some of it, it's
like, wow, this is this is a

957
00:58:19,079 --> 00:58:20,549
this is an interesting angle.

958
00:58:22,770 --> 00:58:26,340
Unknown: let that soak in for a
minute. He said a lot. First,

959
00:58:26,730 --> 00:58:32,250
I've never put anti semitism
with Judas. No, mount is

960
00:58:33,389 --> 00:58:35,489
Adam Curry: massive. Matthew
would be more appropriate if you

961
00:58:35,489 --> 00:58:37,889
want to do that, you know, the
tax collector.

962
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:40,860
Unknown: Correct. I'm just
saying that the term Judas like

963
00:58:40,890 --> 00:58:44,880
oh, he's a Judas. That means you
were saying one thing, but you

964
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:47,970
were doing another or you know,
you're a

965
00:58:47,969 --> 00:58:50,759
Adam Curry: trader, you're a
trader, right? Yeah, exactly.

966
00:58:51,089 --> 00:58:52,139
Which is fitting

967
00:58:52,170 --> 00:58:56,250
Unknown: when you think about
what the daily wire was doing it

968
00:58:56,250 --> 00:59:00,900
fitting that they say they're
conservative news, but they

969
00:59:00,900 --> 00:59:04,050
adhere to you know, talking
points and the rules of big

970
00:59:04,050 --> 00:59:07,440
tech. So it was fine but that
never crossed my mind and say

971
00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:10,410
oh, that's anti semitism that
you you every time you say Judas

972
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:15,810
it means the GD Jews like no no
what what world is he living in?

973
00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:19,500
I mean what headspace a chunk
very telling when people go

974
00:59:19,500 --> 00:59:19,890
there.

975
00:59:20,369 --> 00:59:22,499
Adam Curry: I mean, he right
away said you know, the only

976
00:59:22,499 --> 00:59:27,929
reason they say George Soros
because he's Jewish. No, no, no,

977
00:59:28,229 --> 00:59:32,909
that's just not true. Now our
cities are being ruined by the

978
00:59:32,909 --> 00:59:38,459
money that he is invested in in
bogus attorney State's Attorney

979
00:59:38,459 --> 00:59:43,349
General's and so bad that sells
even liberal San Francisco got

980
00:59:43,349 --> 00:59:46,589
rid of theirs. Right. So no,

981
00:59:46,919 --> 00:59:50,429
Unknown: I just found that very
telling. Like where he took it

982
00:59:50,429 --> 00:59:53,039
and they say they're there for
Israel because they want to kill

983
00:59:53,039 --> 00:59:53,219
him.

984
00:59:53,579 --> 00:59:57,209
Adam Curry: I love I love that
part. Yeah. Because in times in

985
00:59:57,209 --> 01:00:00,809
times theology, all right. All
right. You got me?

986
01:00:02,429 --> 01:00:06,749
Unknown: Every time I check I
always saw like on Fox News is

987
01:00:06,749 --> 01:00:09,689
Krishna is raising money for
poor little old ladies in

988
01:00:09,689 --> 01:00:13,859
Ukraine is Jewish. You know, you
get them blankets and potatoes.

989
01:00:15,059 --> 01:00:18,209
Adam Curry: I love that. That's
I love that commercial. It's too

990
01:00:18,209 --> 01:00:19,919
long, but I love it. It's very
funny.

991
01:00:20,940 --> 01:00:27,900
Unknown: So I'm just, I felt
what, like I said the daily wire

992
01:00:27,900 --> 01:00:31,830
understood if we make it about
the money, yeah, then on the

993
01:00:31,830 --> 01:00:35,730
auto anti semitism machine to
kick in, and now do the dirty

994
01:00:35,730 --> 01:00:40,140
work for us and you're hearing
it now. And he's just going off

995
01:00:40,140 --> 01:00:44,250
the rails with it. And we said
their brood of vipers. I think

996
01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:49,710
that's more anti semitic term. I
mean, I heard that more

997
01:00:49,710 --> 01:00:52,200
interesting than Judas. Well,
you know,

998
01:00:52,980 --> 01:00:55,560
Adam Curry: bringing bringing up
the Vipers I mean that goes back

999
01:00:55,560 --> 01:01:01,350
to Moses, you know, in the
making the bronze snake on the

1000
01:01:01,350 --> 01:01:05,040
on the cross. I mean, he's
confusing a lot of stuff here.

1001
01:01:06,599 --> 01:01:09,539
Unknown: All together. I'm just
gonna blame it on

1002
01:01:10,260 --> 01:01:12,180
Adam Curry: just just throw
everything from the Bible in

1003
01:01:12,180 --> 01:01:15,300
there and say and say anti
semitism that works. Okay. All

1004
01:01:15,300 --> 01:01:17,250
right chunk. Well done.

1005
01:01:18,329 --> 01:01:20,849
Unknown: So this is the third
and final part of him because we

1006
01:01:20,849 --> 01:01:24,869
just can't do too much more him.
But he brings up an excellent

1007
01:01:25,229 --> 01:01:28,049
group of people are named in
this next clip, he

1008
01:01:28,410 --> 01:01:31,170
we do have a little bit more of
Alex Jones. So let's take a look

1009
01:01:31,170 --> 01:01:31,590
at that.

1010
01:01:33,090 --> 01:01:37,500
The daily wire is it was founded
by a billionaire family out of

1011
01:01:37,500 --> 01:01:42,330
Texas, connected to natural gas
and fracking that's involved in

1012
01:01:42,330 --> 01:01:45,360
a real religious, weird
religious movement. That back

1013
01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:49,140
Ted Cruz that founded the daily
wire to take out Breitbart and

1014
01:01:49,140 --> 01:01:52,230
Bannon to try to take out the
populist wing of the Republican

1015
01:01:52,230 --> 01:01:55,230
Party. Jeremy boring is admitted
that being an anti Trump

1016
01:01:55,230 --> 01:01:58,620
platform was their foundation.
They were backed by spook

1017
01:01:58,620 --> 01:02:01,860
related money and spook related
sources. Their goal it's not a

1018
01:02:01,860 --> 01:02:04,620
coincidence. They were big
backers of Ted Cruz. It's not a

1019
01:02:04,620 --> 01:02:07,560
coincidence. They were big Trump
haters. It's not a coincidence

1020
01:02:07,560 --> 01:02:10,980
they've heard for every war in
existence. The Reuters AP Young

1021
01:02:11,010 --> 01:02:14,730
Turks, Media Matters. All those
organizations all took the spin

1022
01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:19,320
of the for the daily wire
against Steven Crowder, I think

1023
01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:21,810
Crowder stumbled into this
router didn't realize he was

1024
01:02:21,810 --> 01:02:25,350
stumbling into an Operation
Mockingbird operation. I mean,

1025
01:02:25,350 --> 01:02:28,080
to give people an idea, the deal
the daily wire is backed by

1026
01:02:28,080 --> 01:02:30,900
billionaires probably a billion
dollar company makes hundreds of

1027
01:02:30,900 --> 01:02:34,620
millions of dollars a year this
deal was done in order to lock

1028
01:02:34,620 --> 01:02:38,940
up and Co Op and control in
cabin and contain conservative

1029
01:02:38,940 --> 01:02:39,720
voices, which was

1030
01:02:39,900 --> 01:02:41,550
Fox News has been doing forever.

1031
01:02:43,500 --> 01:02:47,700
And we hear at Info Wars are
backed by ultimate bone broth.

1032
01:02:47,730 --> 01:02:48,690
I'm not sure if you saw

1033
01:02:50,969 --> 01:02:59,789
Adam Curry: that. Yes, I do have
I did a dive into the family

1034
01:02:59,789 --> 01:03:05,639
behind behind the daily wire.
And I don't know it's a weird

1035
01:03:05,669 --> 01:03:09,899
cult, I'm not sure then
definitely claim to be

1036
01:03:09,899 --> 01:03:19,739
Christians. And yeah, I mean,
it's big money. Definitely

1037
01:03:19,739 --> 01:03:22,229
didn't find much of that with
either you, did you? I didn't. I

1038
01:03:22,229 --> 01:03:27,659
didn't find the spook money. I
like it. I'd like to find out

1039
01:03:27,659 --> 01:03:28,439
more about that.

1040
01:03:28,710 --> 01:03:31,500
Unknown: Not just them. Oh, no.
For people. They didn't mention

1041
01:03:31,500 --> 01:03:35,580
their name in it. I thought they
did. But let me just explain who

1042
01:03:35,580 --> 01:03:37,320
we're talking about. Yes.
They're talking about the Wilkes

1043
01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:41,160
brothers. Yes, correct. Which
you didn't find very much

1044
01:03:41,190 --> 01:03:44,280
information about them. There's
a Wikipedia page. But that's

1045
01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:49,560
about it. The only thing I found
is like this land in Idaho that

1046
01:03:49,560 --> 01:03:53,610
they have that they're beefing
with the locals about but like

1047
01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:57,780
deep into politics, and whether
they're Alia, ideologies,

1048
01:03:57,810 --> 01:04:01,260
there's like one sermon about
one of the brother, that's a

1049
01:04:01,260 --> 01:04:04,920
pastor. And there's this clip I
found on YouTube me whether it's

1050
01:04:05,010 --> 01:04:08,820
video I found on YouTube called
The Secret other Koch brothers

1051
01:04:08,820 --> 01:04:12,720
you never heard of. So he's
gonna go into high secret. If

1052
01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:17,430
they are, it opens up with this
clip of them talking. And then

1053
01:04:17,430 --> 01:04:20,280
he goes into his breakdown over
them. So I guess we can jump

1054
01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:22,050
into that. But this is all I
could find him,

1055
01:04:22,590 --> 01:04:26,400
you know, and bring the Bible
back into the school and start

1056
01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:30,420
teaching our kids at a younger
age. And, you know, focus on the

1057
01:04:30,420 --> 01:04:34,260
younger generation. They're
being taught the other ideas,

1058
01:04:34,650 --> 01:04:38,460
the gay agenda every day out in
the world. So we have to stand

1059
01:04:38,460 --> 01:04:41,550
up and explain to them that
that's not real. That's not

1060
01:04:42,090 --> 01:04:43,530
That's not proper. It's not
right.

1061
01:04:43,650 --> 01:04:47,640
The Koch brothers, Charles and
David, who died in 2019, have

1062
01:04:47,640 --> 01:04:51,030
almost become an idiom,
representing corporate right

1063
01:04:51,030 --> 01:04:54,780
wing mega donors as a group and
indeed they are huge in the last

1064
01:04:54,780 --> 01:04:59,730
election cycle. They gave more
than $1.5 billion but they're

1065
01:04:59,730 --> 01:05:03,000
not aren't the only ones in
fact, there are a lot more

1066
01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:06,780
corporate mega donors like them.
And one such pair are the

1067
01:05:06,780 --> 01:05:10,980
brothers Dan and Ferris Wilks.
The Wilkes brothers don't get

1068
01:05:10,980 --> 01:05:14,430
all of the attention that the
Koch family does. They don't sit

1069
01:05:14,430 --> 01:05:17,610
down for interviews, there's not
a lot of information readily

1070
01:05:17,610 --> 01:05:20,610
available about them. They're
not on social media, there

1071
01:05:20,610 --> 01:05:23,850
aren't even very many pictures
of them. This is every

1072
01:05:23,850 --> 01:05:26,130
photograph of the Wilkes
brothers that I could find on

1073
01:05:26,130 --> 01:05:29,760
the internet. You'll notice
they're only 18. And that clip

1074
01:05:29,760 --> 01:05:32,400
that I showed you, at the
beginning, is the only interview

1075
01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:36,210
that they've done in 2013 for
the Christian Broadcasting

1076
01:05:36,210 --> 01:05:39,690
Network. And I showed you that
interview in its entirety.

1077
01:05:42,570 --> 01:05:45,150
Adam Curry: Yeah, you're right.
I didn't I didn't know there's a

1078
01:05:45,150 --> 01:05:49,650
wiki page. That's all that I
ever really found. But they are

1079
01:05:49,650 --> 01:05:51,090
very wealthy, that's for sure.

1080
01:05:51,750 --> 01:05:53,790
Unknown: Very wealthy, they made
their money in fracking,

1081
01:05:53,790 --> 01:05:58,980
fracking, and they're very, very
silent to the to the outer

1082
01:05:58,980 --> 01:06:03,990
world, but that's a good reason
to have outlet like the daily

1083
01:06:03,990 --> 01:06:09,180
wire because they can push their
whatever interests and whatever

1084
01:06:09,180 --> 01:06:12,120
whatever their interest in and
their agenda through that.

1085
01:06:13,110 --> 01:06:13,620
Talking.

1086
01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:17,730
Adam Curry: We should mention
that none of this is new media

1087
01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:22,230
is traditionally the look at who
you know, the New York Times The

1088
01:06:22,230 --> 01:06:27,000
Washington Post. Chicago
Tribune, the Tribune Company

1089
01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:32,490
itself is very traditional for
big media companies to be owned

1090
01:06:32,490 --> 01:06:40,080
by very rich citizens, Jeff
Bezos, who used to move their

1091
01:06:40,110 --> 01:06:44,880
agenda. I was just looking at
the you know, the verge got $100

1092
01:06:44,880 --> 01:06:51,060
million investment from Penske
media company, that which is one

1093
01:06:51,060 --> 01:06:53,790
of the kids of the Penske
family, the Penske trucking

1094
01:06:53,790 --> 01:06:57,090
empire? And of course, you know,
he's been in car racing and

1095
01:06:57,090 --> 01:07:01,770
stuff. And so now he controls
very big swaths of entertainment

1096
01:07:01,770 --> 01:07:04,920
media. This is this is normal
and why? Well, that's their

1097
01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:08,280
business, their business is
entertainment media. I would

1098
01:07:08,280 --> 01:07:11,160
consider car racing
entertainment, you know, the

1099
01:07:11,160 --> 01:07:15,480
Penske brand is they understand
how to market this stuff. So

1100
01:07:15,480 --> 01:07:20,130
this is not this is not new. But
these guys are just really good

1101
01:07:20,130 --> 01:07:20,520
at it.

1102
01:07:22,020 --> 01:07:25,710
Unknown: It's new in the sense
of having these Renegades Yeah,

1103
01:07:25,950 --> 01:07:31,860
come in and propping up. I don't
want to say I don't know,

1104
01:07:31,860 --> 01:07:33,630
establish, establishing

1105
01:07:34,530 --> 01:07:38,310
Adam Curry: propping up I would
say, providing a foundational

1106
01:07:38,310 --> 01:07:39,090
base.

1107
01:07:39,719 --> 01:07:44,489
Unknown: Right? So you take
these Renegades quote, unquote,

1108
01:07:44,879 --> 01:07:47,699
and you put money behind them,
they haven't been vetted. They

1109
01:07:47,699 --> 01:07:52,109
haven't went through the
journalism schools and

1110
01:07:52,289 --> 01:07:56,609
conditioning that your average
journalists have to go through

1111
01:07:56,609 --> 01:07:59,489
what happened and they know how
to stay in the bounds. Right?

1112
01:07:59,549 --> 01:08:02,999
You go through that.
Conditioning, you know how to

1113
01:08:02,999 --> 01:08:07,289
stay in the bounds. We even see
this with, like, greenwall and

1114
01:08:07,289 --> 01:08:13,769
what's the Max and mattevi AB
even though they defected they

1115
01:08:13,769 --> 01:08:18,089
still stay in bounds. They, you
know, they won't totally they.

1116
01:08:18,269 --> 01:08:23,459
So that's what's different. When
you have people like Crowder and

1117
01:08:24,149 --> 01:08:28,469
even a Candace Owens and people
like that they play outside of

1118
01:08:28,469 --> 01:08:31,229
that those bounds, they haven't
been conditioned. Now they're

1119
01:08:31,259 --> 01:08:38,579
fighting tooth and nail to get
into that into that group. And

1120
01:08:38,579 --> 01:08:41,849
they do they do whatever they
can not to be fully canceled.

1121
01:08:42,149 --> 01:08:47,069
You know, they want to be
reasonable. And that's the whole

1122
01:08:47,099 --> 01:08:51,629
thing with them. They want to be
reasonable, but you have a whole

1123
01:08:51,629 --> 01:08:54,839
nother you know, round, like
with the Alex Jones and

1124
01:08:55,199 --> 01:08:59,339
everybody on like, in on the
outskirts. I mean, I even put

1125
01:08:59,339 --> 01:09:02,159
Tucker in there. I still can't
figure out what the hell Tucker

1126
01:09:02,159 --> 01:09:07,169
has over at Fox that allows him
to say what he says

1127
01:09:08,190 --> 01:09:11,850
Adam Curry: then, yeah, well,
that's I hate the term but

1128
01:09:11,850 --> 01:09:15,660
limited hangout would be will be
the right term. You know,

1129
01:09:15,720 --> 01:09:16,830
Unknown: would you say that? No,

1130
01:09:16,829 --> 01:09:23,939
Adam Curry: I mean, I will Yeah.
Okay. His dad, his dad ran the

1131
01:09:23,939 --> 01:09:29,339
Voice of America. Right? That's
that is by definition, an

1132
01:09:29,339 --> 01:09:33,599
intelligence service from the
United States government. So

1133
01:09:33,629 --> 01:09:36,929
this is this is what he saw this
this is how he was raised. He

1134
01:09:36,929 --> 01:09:38,099
understands this.

1135
01:09:38,790 --> 01:09:41,610
Unknown: So this goes back to
nearly fuller statement that

1136
01:09:41,610 --> 01:09:46,200
they take all sides Correct. of
the argument, which I just don't

1137
01:09:46,200 --> 01:09:50,520
understand why they give him Is
it for credibility reasons,

1138
01:09:50,520 --> 01:09:54,150
because he straight up
basically, Primetime Alex Jones

1139
01:09:54,480 --> 01:09:55,170
at this point,

1140
01:09:55,290 --> 01:09:57,390
Adam Curry: and you know,
actually, I think he's, he's

1141
01:09:57,390 --> 01:10:00,930
gone. He's gone backwards. I I'm
not a pro Sharing the stuff he's

1142
01:10:00,930 --> 01:10:04,110
doing anymore. It's really very
Twitter like, again, you know

1143
01:10:04,110 --> 01:10:07,590
very Tim Poole. Like the stuff
that I think is fantastic is

1144
01:10:07,590 --> 01:10:11,160
his, his long form interviews,
which I think is what he as a

1145
01:10:11,160 --> 01:10:16,470
creative person wants to do. And
he really he's dialing it in as

1146
01:10:16,470 --> 01:10:20,370
far as I'm concerned on on
Tucker Carlson Tonight. It's

1147
01:10:20,400 --> 01:10:24,120
there's really rarely anything
interesting. It's all outrage

1148
01:10:24,180 --> 01:10:29,550
topics, missing the big picture
of so many things. I'm not

1149
01:10:29,550 --> 01:10:33,240
impressed. And the only thing
that is very impressive. Is that

1150
01:10:33,240 --> 01:10:37,590
as the one slot anywhere on
mainstream that goes against Big

1151
01:10:37,590 --> 01:10:41,700
Pharma and that has to be a
Murdoch deal. Where they said,

1152
01:10:41,700 --> 01:10:46,860
look, look, he has got to give
us this it's the the rest of Fox

1153
01:10:46,860 --> 01:10:51,360
is all pro Big Pharma, all pro
military industrial complex,

1154
01:10:51,390 --> 01:10:55,290
every single one of them. And
they sandwich it between you

1155
01:10:55,290 --> 01:11:00,180
know, Jesse waters, who's just
dumb at just this lame. It's

1156
01:11:00,180 --> 01:11:05,220
nothing going on there with game
shows. And Sean Hannity who

1157
01:11:05,250 --> 01:11:11,130
could he have any more?
Intelligence pins, FBI, CIA,

1158
01:11:11,130 --> 01:11:13,530
NSA, he's got all the pins on
his lapel.

1159
01:11:14,070 --> 01:11:19,170
Unknown: So you use the key
words sandwiched? Yeah, cuz if

1160
01:11:19,170 --> 01:11:22,560
you watched the last five
minutes a one show? They've

1161
01:11:22,560 --> 01:11:25,500
talked crossing in the first
five minutes of the next show?

1162
01:11:25,530 --> 01:11:29,280
Yeah, you get whiplash? Yeah,
you just like what is that's

1163
01:11:29,280 --> 01:11:33,690
what I find fascinating about it
is it's the eating out there

1164
01:11:33,720 --> 01:11:37,050
search counter narratives to
each other. And that's why I

1165
01:11:37,050 --> 01:11:40,560
could never figure out I mean, I
get the limited hangout aspect

1166
01:11:40,560 --> 01:11:45,420
of it. But why even go that way?
I mean, as this this great

1167
01:11:45,690 --> 01:11:48,840
ratings ratings, the ratings are
often off the charts

1168
01:11:48,840 --> 01:11:53,670
astronomical. So this is their
brand basically of daily wire

1169
01:11:53,670 --> 01:11:54,390
and your

1170
01:11:54,390 --> 01:11:57,990
Adam Curry: router. And it's not
that I don't think Tucker's I

1171
01:11:57,990 --> 01:12:01,680
think Tucker is very sincere
with his daily show on Fox

1172
01:12:01,680 --> 01:12:05,940
nation or his his interview
show. I really feel is just kind

1173
01:12:05,940 --> 01:12:08,820
of dialing if you really dialing
it in for the rest. You know

1174
01:12:08,820 --> 01:12:11,730
what, and he and whoever was
there, this the not during the

1175
01:12:11,730 --> 01:12:14,970
great topics, no one will come
on. He has no interviews only,

1176
01:12:15,300 --> 01:12:19,800
you know, okay. Wow. Let's talk
to the lives of tick tock lady

1177
01:12:19,800 --> 01:12:24,420
again. Come on. Come on. Come
on. Who gives a crowded chicken

1178
01:12:24,420 --> 01:12:28,050
Unknown: lady is like, Oh,
right. Oh, ladies, it's like

1179
01:12:28,080 --> 01:12:30,870
What the hell's going on? But
no, I'm just I just wanted to

1180
01:12:30,870 --> 01:12:34,860
bring that up. Because it'd be
great point over the limited

1181
01:12:34,860 --> 01:12:37,290
Hangout, and that just goes to
what Neely fuller says it's

1182
01:12:37,290 --> 01:12:41,880
taken off with Sure. It's just
like, I'm wondering why Fox

1183
01:12:41,880 --> 01:12:44,580
feels they have to do that.
That's that was my course.

1184
01:12:45,030 --> 01:12:49,020
Adam Curry: That gives them
credibility. And it gets really

1185
01:12:49,050 --> 01:12:53,820
know it. Yes, it's red meat for
your typical look at what's

1186
01:12:53,820 --> 01:12:59,610
happening now. So now, the the
left mainstream, in particular,

1187
01:12:59,610 --> 01:13:03,330
CNN, MSNBC, you know, they've
Oh, they've got the deposition.

1188
01:13:03,330 --> 01:13:07,470
They've got two emails, where
everybody inside fox, fox news,

1189
01:13:07,650 --> 01:13:10,530
thought Trump was a nut job, all
the people that were Sidney

1190
01:13:10,530 --> 01:13:14,700
Powell, everyone was crazy. The
text messages from Tucker to

1191
01:13:14,700 --> 01:13:18,360
Frau Ingraham and back. And you
know, our people are good

1192
01:13:18,360 --> 01:13:22,620
people, you know, really, really
talking kind of in like, our our

1193
01:13:22,620 --> 01:13:25,800
people are kind of simple, who
watch us. I mean, the one that

1194
01:13:25,800 --> 01:13:28,380
the whole thing is, and I
believe that that's how that's

1195
01:13:28,380 --> 01:13:32,010
how it is internally. And so now
they're taking that and they're

1196
01:13:32,010 --> 01:13:35,070
trying to deep platform the
audience, you know, take the

1197
01:13:35,070 --> 01:13:37,620
audience away saying See, they
don't care about you. They don't

1198
01:13:37,620 --> 01:13:43,440
care even Tucker Carlson doesn't
care about you. And that's all

1199
01:13:43,440 --> 01:13:44,100
the news

1200
01:13:44,520 --> 01:13:47,610
Unknown: is trying news to the
people or Fox it's not making

1201
01:13:47,610 --> 01:13:52,260
you look better. It makes you
look worse, of course. You got

1202
01:13:52,260 --> 01:13:57,300
23 hours of crap. You have this
one hour like it just makes you

1203
01:13:57,300 --> 01:14:01,980
look like a bigger pile you
know, cuz like why would you

1204
01:14:02,009 --> 01:14:04,469
Adam Curry: it's you know, they
have to from a programming

1205
01:14:04,469 --> 01:14:08,579
standpoint, they have to have
that hour there for the sandwich

1206
01:14:08,579 --> 01:14:09,449
just tastes good.

1207
01:14:11,700 --> 01:14:14,460
Unknown: Okay, I'm not
disagreeing with you. I'm just

1208
01:14:14,460 --> 01:14:17,010
agreeing to disagree with their
strategy. Make everybody

1209
01:14:17,250 --> 01:14:18,000
douchebags

1210
01:14:18,030 --> 01:14:21,240
Adam Curry: No, but of course,
it's horrible. It's it's a very

1211
01:14:21,240 --> 01:14:24,990
manipulative strategy. And for
my money, I'm seeing Tucker

1212
01:14:24,990 --> 01:14:28,500
Carlson not doing much more
about, you know, big picture and

1213
01:14:28,500 --> 01:14:31,890
topics than Tim Poole. It's
really that level. It is not

1214
01:14:31,890 --> 01:14:33,870
God, it's not good anymore.

1215
01:14:34,200 --> 01:14:37,410
Unknown: I will agree with you
on that. And what the term comes

1216
01:14:37,410 --> 01:14:41,190
to mind to me is red pill safe
space. Like they're, they're the

1217
01:14:41,190 --> 01:14:46,350
on ramp for people that are
dabbling with the red pill. You

1218
01:14:46,350 --> 01:14:51,840
know, it's a good safe own ramp.
And I think that's why they

1219
01:14:51,870 --> 01:14:55,080
these people like Candace Owens
go there because this is where

1220
01:14:55,080 --> 01:14:58,290
you can decide what brand new
red pill you want to take. You

1221
01:14:58,290 --> 01:15:01,110
know, you go to Tim Poole and
you stick You're telling the

1222
01:15:01,110 --> 01:15:05,160
water and no pun intended. And
then you figure out oh, I want

1223
01:15:05,160 --> 01:15:08,730
to be you know, a Crowder type,
red pill or I want to Candice

1224
01:15:08,730 --> 01:15:11,610
type red pill or, you know,
something a little more

1225
01:15:11,610 --> 01:15:15,480
hardcore. But I'm just one last
pasty, though. One last

1226
01:15:15,480 --> 01:15:19,140
Adam Curry: thing reading about
the Wilkes brothers. So the way

1227
01:15:19,170 --> 01:15:24,090
that the church they I guess
I've kind of CO opted co founded

1228
01:15:24,510 --> 01:15:29,280
assembly of YAHWAH. Because
Seventh Day Adventist type thing

1229
01:15:30,030 --> 01:15:33,990
is conservative Jews for Jesus.
It's like Messianic Jews was

1230
01:15:33,990 --> 01:15:37,380
very interesting. I'd love to
know more about it. Well,

1231
01:15:37,440 --> 01:15:38,190
Unknown: number 12.

1232
01:15:38,220 --> 01:15:41,790
Guy when I decided to write this
video, I thought that the Wilkes

1233
01:15:41,790 --> 01:15:44,970
brothers were going to be just
another version of the Koch

1234
01:15:44,970 --> 01:15:49,080
brothers, right wing fossil fuel
billionaires throwing their

1235
01:15:49,080 --> 01:15:53,010
money around for their own
personal business interests. But

1236
01:15:53,010 --> 01:15:56,730
the more I looked into it, the
more I realized that they really

1237
01:15:56,730 --> 01:15:59,970
are their own beasts. At their
core. They aren't much more than

1238
01:15:59,970 --> 01:16:04,050
small town preachers at a Texas
church who got lucky and jumped

1239
01:16:04,050 --> 01:16:08,580
up into the Forbes 400. But that
church is powerful because of

1240
01:16:08,580 --> 01:16:13,260
them. It's reaching its arms
into Austin and Washington, and

1241
01:16:13,260 --> 01:16:17,010
it's becoming one of the most
powerful churches in America.

1242
01:16:17,550 --> 01:16:21,450
Who are these people? Who are
the Wilks brothers? And what are

1243
01:16:21,450 --> 01:16:24,480
they up to? I think that the
coverage of these two men to the

1244
01:16:24,480 --> 01:16:28,350
extent that it exists, tends to
treat them as CO equal partners

1245
01:16:28,350 --> 01:16:32,280
in this relationship. And while
Dan is definitely involved in

1246
01:16:32,310 --> 01:16:35,490
definitely approving of
everything that's going on, I

1247
01:16:35,490 --> 01:16:38,430
think it's pretty clear that
older brother Farris is the

1248
01:16:38,430 --> 01:16:41,820
senior partner in this
relationship. Ferris is a little

1249
01:16:41,820 --> 01:16:45,720
bit wealthier. He's got a larger
stake in the packs, and most

1250
01:16:45,720 --> 01:16:48,960
importantly, for reasons we're
about to get into. He's the

1251
01:16:48,960 --> 01:16:53,040
pastor at their church. Faris as
the dirt farmer says Dan

1252
01:16:53,040 --> 01:16:56,490
Griffith, a local their town of
Cisco, Texas, who spoke to

1253
01:16:56,490 --> 01:17:00,060
Reuters. Dan has more Hollywood
in him.

1254
01:17:02,760 --> 01:17:05,610
Okay, all right. So I just
there's just more information

1255
01:17:05,610 --> 01:17:07,800
and we can just go right into
the 13 because then they get

1256
01:17:07,800 --> 01:17:10,500
more into the religious side of
it. We've talked we'll talk

1257
01:17:10,500 --> 01:17:11,340
about on the other side,

1258
01:17:11,580 --> 01:17:16,440
Faris Wilkes, and this may
surprise you is not a Christian,

1259
01:17:17,010 --> 01:17:21,930
or a Jew, or a Muslim or a Hindu
or really anything by his own

1260
01:17:21,930 --> 01:17:25,710
definition. His Church, the
assembly of Yawei seventh day,

1261
01:17:25,830 --> 01:17:29,010
not affiliated with Seventh Day
Adventist has been called a

1262
01:17:29,010 --> 01:17:33,450
Messianic Jewish church. That's
a controversial religious sect

1263
01:17:33,450 --> 01:17:36,810
which claims to be Jewish but
recognizes Jesus Christ as the

1264
01:17:36,810 --> 01:17:41,550
Messiah. However, all the major
denominations of Judaism, that's

1265
01:17:41,580 --> 01:17:46,440
Orthodox, Conservative, reform
and Reconstructionist. All don't

1266
01:17:46,440 --> 01:17:49,770
recognize Messianic Judaism, or
as they call it Hebrew

1267
01:17:49,770 --> 01:17:53,370
Christianity as a sect of
Judaism. They say that it's

1268
01:17:53,370 --> 01:17:57,240
actually a sect of evangelical
Christianity, which uses the

1269
01:17:57,240 --> 01:18:01,080
symbols of the Jewish faith to
undermine the Jewish faith,

1270
01:18:01,230 --> 01:18:05,370
tricking people into converting
into Christianity. They also say

1271
01:18:05,370 --> 01:18:09,870
that Messianic Judaism teaches
Christian supersessionism which

1272
01:18:09,870 --> 01:18:13,980
is the idea that Judaism is not
a valid religion, because it was

1273
01:18:13,980 --> 01:18:18,270
superseded by Christianity upon
the death of Jesus. Rabbi

1274
01:18:18,270 --> 01:18:22,380
Ephraim Davidson, stead of one
prominent Messianic Jewish group

1275
01:18:22,380 --> 01:18:25,860
Jews for Jesus, that their
techniques are manipulative,

1276
01:18:25,860 --> 01:18:29,640
deceptive and anti semitic.
Likewise, a number of Protestant

1277
01:18:29,640 --> 01:18:33,060
churches, including the
evangelical Lutherans, United

1278
01:18:33,060 --> 01:18:36,360
Church of Christ and
Presbyterian Church have issued

1279
01:18:36,360 --> 01:18:41,070
statements against proselytizing
Jews, however, Faris Wilks His

1280
01:18:41,070 --> 01:18:44,460
Church does not consider itself
to be a Messianic Jewish

1281
01:18:44,460 --> 01:18:45,450
congregation.

1282
01:18:48,090 --> 01:18:51,780
Adam Curry: Man, I am not
schooled enough. But I I can say

1283
01:18:51,780 --> 01:18:56,430
this. One of the people who
actually one of the people who

1284
01:18:56,430 --> 01:19:02,820
got Tina and I into going to
church is a Messianic Jew. And

1285
01:19:03,930 --> 01:19:09,240
her mother, in fact, was
survived Auschwitz, and wrote a

1286
01:19:09,240 --> 01:19:14,220
book or Obama gave her the Medal
of Freedom or something. And she

1287
01:19:14,220 --> 01:19:17,130
doesn't seem to be like some
trickery, tricky drew Zhu who

1288
01:19:17,130 --> 01:19:21,360
was trying to do shit to us. I
think that's it's kind of easy

1289
01:19:21,360 --> 01:19:26,130
to easy to say that, but it
seems a lot more intricate than

1290
01:19:26,130 --> 01:19:26,460
that.

1291
01:19:27,030 --> 01:19:29,670
Unknown: Right. But that's this
is the talking point. What this

1292
01:19:29,670 --> 01:19:36,120
brings up to me more than
anything. Ben Shapiro's in bed

1293
01:19:36,120 --> 01:19:37,410
with these kinds of people.

1294
01:19:39,000 --> 01:19:40,620
Adam Curry: Yes, partners,

1295
01:19:40,650 --> 01:19:46,800
Unknown: you understand what I'm
saying? Like, like, where's the

1296
01:19:46,800 --> 01:19:49,710
disdain that he normally has for
everybody else that he asked

1297
01:19:49,710 --> 01:19:55,320
for? Yay. And everybody else
says anything. But he's in bed

1298
01:19:55,320 --> 01:19:59,730
with what they consider to be
Messianic Jews. And you see how

1299
01:19:59,730 --> 01:20:04,020
they're If I want the narrative,
I want to explain that very

1300
01:20:04,020 --> 01:20:08,460
clear to narrative about them
seem to be, but nobody holds Ben

1301
01:20:08,460 --> 01:20:12,390
Shapiro accountable. I find that
interesting that he takes money

1302
01:20:12,390 --> 01:20:17,010
from them. And what they're the
Vipers. This is this is the

1303
01:20:17,010 --> 01:20:20,790
Vipers that chunk was talking
about.

1304
01:20:21,420 --> 01:20:26,400
Adam Curry: Yes. And, and I know
several people who are well, who

1305
01:20:26,490 --> 01:20:31,410
who speak with Shapiro regularly
connected to the Manhattan

1306
01:20:31,410 --> 01:20:36,450
Institute. So he he's involved
with and that is not a a Jewish

1307
01:20:36,450 --> 01:20:40,950
or Messianic Jewish or anything
that is more Christian, I would

1308
01:20:40,950 --> 01:20:45,750
say. Shapiro plays a lot of
different on a lot of different

1309
01:20:45,750 --> 01:20:46,350
fields.

1310
01:20:47,760 --> 01:20:50,580
Unknown: That's the one I wanted
to point out basically about,

1311
01:20:51,210 --> 01:20:55,170
who was offering the $50
million. At the end of the day,

1312
01:20:55,170 --> 01:21:00,060
it wasn't boring. And it wasn't
Ben Shapiro, it was the the

1313
01:21:00,060 --> 01:21:04,680
wills brothers that was writing
that check. And they wanted

1314
01:21:04,710 --> 01:21:09,600
another asset. And Steven
Crowder in their collection.

1315
01:21:09,630 --> 01:21:10,440
That's how I see it.

1316
01:21:10,830 --> 01:21:13,770
Adam Curry: Yeah, possibly. I
mean, ultimately, yeah, there's,

1317
01:21:14,190 --> 01:21:17,040
I don't know, their their full
involvement. I think for them,

1318
01:21:17,040 --> 01:21:20,700
it'd be more like, yeah, let's
get let's get full coverage.

1319
01:21:21,300 --> 01:21:26,310
Unknown: Right. And he fits that
more I can say if they tried to

1320
01:21:26,310 --> 01:21:30,630
go with the culture, because
he's more into the comedy. Yeah,

1321
01:21:30,660 --> 01:21:34,920
and the skits and things like
that, and when doesn't really

1322
01:21:34,920 --> 01:21:38,910
get more that much into hard
news, and journalism. So that

1323
01:21:38,910 --> 01:21:42,450
will be that will be on brand
for them. So we got I got some

1324
01:21:42,450 --> 01:21:46,020
clips here, we can kind of
breeze through these. But it was

1325
01:21:46,020 --> 01:21:50,100
just more about the contract
because Kanye West, being the

1326
01:21:50,100 --> 01:21:54,120
visionary that he is, was
talking about these contracts.

1327
01:21:54,480 --> 01:21:57,720
Almost three years ago, they I
mean, this, this was this was

1328
01:21:57,720 --> 01:22:02,160
coming up, what we saw him go
through with the whole DEF CON

1329
01:22:02,160 --> 01:22:05,790
thing and everything like that
was the culmination of a three

1330
01:22:05,790 --> 01:22:11,400
year battle over contracts. So
this is from two I met a little

1331
01:22:11,400 --> 01:22:15,720
over two years ago, almost three
years ago. Um, and this is the

1332
01:22:15,720 --> 01:22:19,050
Joe Budden podcast, and they're
speaking on the Kanye West

1333
01:22:19,140 --> 01:22:21,450
contract right now. Well, stop

1334
01:22:21,450 --> 01:22:24,270
trying to deflect man Kanye walk
us through it. A few days, we

1335
01:22:24,270 --> 01:22:28,020
spoke about it last pod. It
doesn't seem like this is just

1336
01:22:28,020 --> 01:22:31,110
an egotistical about him type of
thing. It seems like he's just

1337
01:22:31,110 --> 01:22:35,460
trying to change the narrative,
you know, for for all artists or

1338
01:22:35,460 --> 01:22:37,890
creators. He's trying to, he's
just trying to change what

1339
01:22:37,890 --> 01:22:41,280
system has already been in place
for years. And I like that the

1340
01:22:41,280 --> 01:22:44,310
person on the Grammy thing was a
little far from me. Yeah. Yeah.

1341
01:22:44,310 --> 01:22:46,380
Because you have to actually go
out of your way to put a Grammy

1342
01:22:46,380 --> 01:22:49,050
in a toilet and piss on it, and
then remove it from the toilet.

1343
01:22:49,920 --> 01:22:51,930
Definitely removed it that's not
still in the toilet. But it's

1344
01:22:51,930 --> 01:22:52,500
just like,

1345
01:22:53,190 --> 01:22:55,410
just imagine sitting there
drinking water, like, hold on.

1346
01:22:55,950 --> 01:22:56,610
Give me one second.

1347
01:22:58,710 --> 01:23:02,640
That was just a little weird,
but I'm just understand the

1348
01:23:02,640 --> 01:23:05,730
messaging behind it. And I like
it. I like what he's doing this

1349
01:23:05,730 --> 01:23:10,230
is to me, this is probably the
best Kanye rant that we've,

1350
01:23:10,920 --> 01:23:13,800
we've gotten. Because it's not
just about him. It seems like

1351
01:23:13,800 --> 01:23:18,030
it's about all artists that he's
trying to fight for. And all

1352
01:23:18,030 --> 01:23:20,520
artists rights. So I respect
that. I gotta respect it.

1353
01:23:22,200 --> 01:23:25,260
I love it. I'd like to see what
the action plan is. Because he's

1354
01:23:25,260 --> 01:23:29,910
asking something that is, to
some degree, insane when it

1355
01:23:29,910 --> 01:23:33,000
comes to these types of deals
was to ask the for the Masters

1356
01:23:33,000 --> 01:23:35,760
just to give every artists their
masters back. Let's like, I'm

1357
01:23:35,760 --> 01:23:38,130
with you all the way on
everything that he's saying. I

1358
01:23:38,130 --> 01:23:42,420
love what he's saying. I'm with
all this shit. I would just love

1359
01:23:42,420 --> 01:23:46,260
to know what the action plan
showing me a text message to

1360
01:23:46,260 --> 01:23:48,330
talk to them. Which is great,
because even talking to these

1361
01:23:48,330 --> 01:23:51,600
people, I didn't even know they
had phones. Like these people. I

1362
01:23:51,600 --> 01:23:53,460
had no idea you could really
text these people.

1363
01:23:53,550 --> 01:23:56,070
But that was a part of cognacs
thing, because we don't even

1364
01:23:56,070 --> 01:23:58,680
know these people yet. They
never shoot than I do.

1365
01:23:58,710 --> 01:24:00,810
I've heard none of these names
in my entire life.

1366
01:24:01,019 --> 01:24:04,319
Adam Curry: Because you can't
call them they call you

1367
01:24:07,350 --> 01:24:09,960
Unknown: right on time with the
blue light. Now y'all understand

1368
01:24:09,960 --> 01:24:13,590
how to Boulais phone works.
That's how it works. You don't

1369
01:24:13,650 --> 01:24:18,810
worry it doesn't ring back at
all it only down one way. So

1370
01:24:18,900 --> 01:24:24,120
once again, this just leads to
the whole point of I'm sure that

1371
01:24:24,450 --> 01:24:28,080
it was the wills brothers money.
But you're not going to be

1372
01:24:28,080 --> 01:24:31,650
talking to these people. You
know, I'm in there, you're hired

1373
01:24:31,650 --> 01:24:35,520
help. Let's just see what your
employee and their business. And

1374
01:24:35,520 --> 01:24:37,650
that's what Kyle was saying with
this whole situation. Like I

1375
01:24:37,650 --> 01:24:40,140
said, we can breeze through
these clips. But I just want to

1376
01:24:40,140 --> 01:24:44,190
really a matter of fact, let's
go ahead and get into jump down

1377
01:24:44,190 --> 01:24:47,160
to 17 because this is two
lawyers talking about the

1378
01:24:47,160 --> 01:24:51,990
contract in plain English. And
you spoke about this has much

1379
01:24:51,990 --> 01:24:56,040
change. Is this a new
conversation about contracts and

1380
01:24:56,130 --> 01:25:01,350
medium music or outfall? Well So
it's basically the same thing

1381
01:25:01,380 --> 01:25:05,490
Adam Curry: Well it's
interesting I was listening to I

1382
01:25:05,490 --> 01:25:08,190
was in the car yesterday driving
back from my surgery so I'm like

1383
01:25:08,220 --> 01:25:12,150
I just want to my mouth is all
numbed up and stuff I'm drooling

1384
01:25:13,050 --> 01:25:17,820
on the listen to Sinatra, simply
Sinatra channel 70 on Sirius XM.

1385
01:25:18,300 --> 01:25:21,810
And there's the show that where
they have someone talk about

1386
01:25:21,810 --> 01:25:26,190
Frank Sinatra and play records
and as Tim McGrath I think he

1387
01:25:26,190 --> 01:25:30,000
played for the St. Louis
Cardinals to not mistaken and he

1388
01:25:30,000 --> 01:25:35,640
also did later did commentary,
calling games etc. And but he

1389
01:25:35,640 --> 01:25:40,500
was he also was a performer,
entertainer singer. And he went

1390
01:25:40,500 --> 01:25:44,100
to Vegas on an off day with a
couple of guys from the team.

1391
01:25:45,000 --> 01:25:50,670
And, and, you know, and, and to
Sinatra show, and Sinatra, you

1392
01:25:50,670 --> 01:25:52,170
know, that's kind of how it
works, you know, it's like, oh,

1393
01:25:52,170 --> 01:25:54,480
we're gonna go in. And so, you
know, Frank's gonna call you

1394
01:25:54,480 --> 01:26:00,150
out, say, Hey, good to have you
here. And Sinatra's on stage as

1395
01:26:00,150 --> 01:26:02,010
Hey, they're the guys from the
Cardinals, you know, we got the

1396
01:26:02,010 --> 01:26:07,170
same boss. So what do you mean?
Because he has Sinatra? He was

1397
01:26:07,170 --> 01:26:14,910
given a Budweiser. It was
Anheuser Busch. What's the name?

1398
01:26:14,910 --> 01:26:18,330
Probably goodie, I guess, or
grinder or whatever, the old

1399
01:26:18,330 --> 01:26:23,760
guy. And he gave, they'd given
him a beer distributorship. And,

1400
01:26:23,850 --> 01:26:27,090
you know, you just see the power
right there of Sinatra saying,

1401
01:26:27,090 --> 01:26:30,360
and we got the same boss, you
know. And so we don't really get

1402
01:26:30,360 --> 01:26:32,430
an off that we both have to work
for the man. He's just saying

1403
01:26:32,430 --> 01:26:35,850
that on stage. So this has
always been this way in sports

1404
01:26:35,850 --> 01:26:39,990
and entertainment. It's always
been you know, about the

1405
01:26:39,990 --> 01:26:43,110
Benjamins at the end of the day.
And everybody who's really in it

1406
01:26:43,260 --> 01:26:46,410
bows down to it. And Kanye is
right. If you saw the most

1407
01:26:46,410 --> 01:26:48,600
recent Grammys, Holy mackerel.

1408
01:26:49,620 --> 01:26:54,510
Unknown: Right. You have to do
what you're told to do. Play the

1409
01:26:54,510 --> 01:27:02,610
devil. Yeah. Well, that that
number 15. That would just play.

1410
01:27:02,700 --> 01:27:05,130
And I think 14 That would just
play up on the job books

1411
01:27:05,130 --> 01:27:09,150
podcast, these masters, this is
the same thing that they're

1412
01:27:09,150 --> 01:27:13,770
talking about with. With your
your rights to your content.

1413
01:27:14,160 --> 01:27:19,080
Yes. That you don't own it,
which I find is crazy, that you

1414
01:27:19,080 --> 01:27:24,120
don't own what you make. I can
see it either way. If I didn't,

1415
01:27:24,120 --> 01:27:27,150
if I was making throwaway
content. Let's just say we were

1416
01:27:27,150 --> 01:27:31,050
making a show. And it was just
us yakking? He was saying like,

1417
01:27:31,080 --> 01:27:35,130
whatever. I can see it from that
point, when you're making like

1418
01:27:35,160 --> 01:27:39,030
albums and documentaries and
things like that, it'd be that

1419
01:27:39,030 --> 01:27:43,380
Alas, that is evergreen. I guess
that's the word you use for. I

1420
01:27:43,380 --> 01:27:46,980
can't see signing my rights away
to this.

1421
01:27:48,420 --> 01:27:51,630
Adam Curry: Of course, this is
somewhat an antiquated model.

1422
01:27:52,440 --> 01:27:56,400
Before, you know, back in the
day, if you you needed the Hit

1423
01:27:56,400 --> 01:27:59,370
Factory or you know, one of
these big studios need the right

1424
01:27:59,370 --> 01:28:02,190
producer, you need the
relationships, you need the

1425
01:28:02,190 --> 01:28:05,220
right lawyers and all the things
that a record company gives you.

1426
01:28:05,490 --> 01:28:08,790
That's their stipulation, you
don't and Paul McCartney didn't

1427
01:28:08,790 --> 01:28:11,880
didn't own his masters, Michael
Jackson, at some point own the

1428
01:28:11,880 --> 01:28:14,520
masters to The Beatles stuff.
That's why Michael Jackson had

1429
01:28:14,520 --> 01:28:15,870
to go, in my opinion.

1430
01:28:16,830 --> 01:28:18,900
Unknown: I agree. I don't I
don't own

1431
01:28:20,069 --> 01:28:23,969
Adam Curry: a single a single
thing. Like the work I did on

1432
01:28:23,969 --> 01:28:26,609
television in the Netherlands of
work. I didn't MTV, I know I

1433
01:28:26,609 --> 01:28:29,129
don't get a residual from that
they can do whatever they want

1434
01:28:29,129 --> 01:28:33,329
with that for in perpetuity. So
whether you want to take the

1435
01:28:33,329 --> 01:28:35,879
money upfront, which by the way,
is the biggest scam because

1436
01:28:35,879 --> 01:28:39,239
there's the thing called
recoupment in the music

1437
01:28:39,239 --> 01:28:41,999
business. So you think you're
that you're getting all this

1438
01:28:41,999 --> 01:28:43,919
money, and you think that you're
getting the studio, but now

1439
01:28:43,919 --> 01:28:46,769
you're actually paying for it
yourself out of your advance.

1440
01:28:46,949 --> 01:28:51,659
Same thing with books. So yeah,
I mean that now. Yeah, and this

1441
01:28:51,659 --> 01:28:54,719
is now this thank you for for
bringing this up. This is the

1442
01:28:54,719 --> 01:28:58,019
culture of America that is going
to eventually break through our

1443
01:28:58,019 --> 01:29:02,099
culture is once once we take
away the Amazons book

1444
01:29:02,099 --> 01:29:06,479
publishers, people, people who
people who write books will have

1445
01:29:06,539 --> 01:29:10,559
their own decentralized
distribution mechanism, very

1446
01:29:10,559 --> 01:29:14,189
similar to podcasting.
Podcasting is that is that last?

1447
01:29:14,969 --> 01:29:18,779
Right now as far as I'm
concerned, the only mechanism

1448
01:29:18,869 --> 01:29:22,469
that allows you to own and
distribute anything you want

1449
01:29:22,469 --> 01:29:25,259
your own way without anyone
really being able to stop it.

1450
01:29:25,499 --> 01:29:28,289
Thank God for Bitcoin because
now we have a you can't

1451
01:29:28,289 --> 01:29:32,339
financially do platform either.
This is going to happen with

1452
01:29:32,339 --> 01:29:36,299
music. And I'm working with some
really smart people who have set

1453
01:29:36,299 --> 01:29:39,989
up hosting companies to host
music that people have not

1454
01:29:39,989 --> 01:29:44,969
licensed to ASCAP BMI that
people have not made under the

1455
01:29:44,969 --> 01:29:48,509
auspices of owning your masters,
because you don't need to do

1456
01:29:48,509 --> 01:29:52,079
that anymore. And surprise,
surprise, when you do add value

1457
01:29:52,079 --> 01:29:55,199
for value, you make more money
than you do streaming on

1458
01:29:55,199 --> 01:29:58,889
Spotify. This is the revolution
that we're going through that is

1459
01:29:58,889 --> 01:30:06,179
going to help and everything in
America and, and Kanye hasn't

1460
01:30:06,179 --> 01:30:10,559
quite seen it all, yet he sees
the problems. He doesn't he

1461
01:30:10,559 --> 01:30:13,409
doesn't like the solution yet
because he does like flying

1462
01:30:13,409 --> 01:30:18,089
private. You see, and there's
not a lot of fly private flying

1463
01:30:18,149 --> 01:30:21,809
in, in the in the culture that
we're building, it may never

1464
01:30:21,809 --> 01:30:25,409
happen, you know, it's more like
you get what you deserve. I have

1465
01:30:25,409 --> 01:30:29,909
a great life. And I can fly
myself, I can take lessons, I

1466
01:30:29,909 --> 01:30:34,439
can't fly private, she says, but
I can get as far as I really

1467
01:30:34,439 --> 01:30:38,519
need to go. And that that takes
a whole change of mentality. And

1468
01:30:38,519 --> 01:30:42,839
unfortunately, I still think
that when it comes to music, and

1469
01:30:42,839 --> 01:30:45,029
doesn't matter whether you're
Taylor Swift, or whether your

1470
01:30:45,059 --> 01:30:53,069
your your Kanye image,
positioning Cristalle all this

1471
01:30:53,069 --> 01:30:56,219
shit is a part of it. And if you
don't have it, you're not seen

1472
01:30:56,219 --> 01:30:57,059
as legit.

1473
01:30:57,810 --> 01:31:01,500
Unknown: What to see. That's the
thing though. The record company

1474
01:31:01,500 --> 01:31:05,250
could put all that behind you.
But the people are not with you,

1475
01:31:05,250 --> 01:31:14,310
me being a musician and avid
music fan. They can't pick the

1476
01:31:14,310 --> 01:31:18,120
winners. Case in point, I'm
gonna give you just one case in

1477
01:31:18,120 --> 01:31:22,800
point flow router. Yeah, like
Florida, he had the machine

1478
01:31:22,800 --> 01:31:27,180
behind him everything but he
didn't have that connectivity.

1479
01:31:27,180 --> 01:31:32,400
The relatability is the term I
want to use with the people. And

1480
01:31:32,400 --> 01:31:40,050
that's why we picked Kanye.
Kanye wasn't meant to be a star.

1481
01:31:41,280 --> 01:31:46,020
You know, it was that all he is
relatable to us at the time,

1482
01:31:46,170 --> 01:31:50,520
young man like me, that you
know, didn't have you know,

1483
01:31:50,520 --> 01:31:54,390
we're not gangster or not this
and hip hop. It's like, oh, he's

1484
01:31:54,390 --> 01:31:57,420
like the kid down the street
that makes beats, ya know? And

1485
01:31:57,420 --> 01:32:00,540
that's what made him relatable.
And he's, that's why they can't

1486
01:32:00,540 --> 01:32:04,860
catch him. Because the people
picked him. The record labels,

1487
01:32:04,890 --> 01:32:08,820
they can put people in front of
you all day, Demi Lovato and all

1488
01:32:08,820 --> 01:32:12,030
these people names. Nobody likes
these people.

1489
01:32:12,569 --> 01:32:15,869
Adam Curry: Well, no, no, no.
Yeah. But no, no back to so now

1490
01:32:15,869 --> 01:32:18,719
we're right back to where we
were. So where did Kanye really

1491
01:32:18,719 --> 01:32:24,299
make his money? Not in music. He
had to have his own product. He

1492
01:32:24,299 --> 01:32:27,209
had to help his Adidas just one
of the many things but just use

1493
01:32:27,209 --> 01:32:32,819
as an example. He didn't control
that business either. And, you

1494
01:32:32,819 --> 01:32:36,869
know, if you so if you Alex
Jones doesn't really control the

1495
01:32:36,869 --> 01:32:42,059
contents of his of his product,
I agree is so awesome. And you

1496
01:32:42,059 --> 01:32:46,079
know what they're going after
that kind of product. So. So the

1497
01:32:46,079 --> 01:32:50,609
best way, in my mind is if
you're, if you have talent, keep

1498
01:32:50,609 --> 01:32:54,599
it pure. And you'll get there.
You'll get what you need, you'll

1499
01:32:54,599 --> 01:32:57,809
get exactly what you deserve.
Yes, you will. I've proven this

1500
01:32:57,839 --> 01:33:02,099
over and over again. But if you
if you think if you think it's

1501
01:33:02,099 --> 01:33:04,739
private jets or you want Yeah,
well, then you gotta go with the

1502
01:33:04,739 --> 01:33:05,579
private jet crew.

1503
01:33:07,380 --> 01:33:10,770
Unknown: Which that's the only
way they can bait people in. But

1504
01:33:10,770 --> 01:33:14,760
that's what they're doing
content creators now is the Mr.

1505
01:33:14,760 --> 01:33:18,000
Beast, and those kind of people
like, oh, they signed deals with

1506
01:33:18,000 --> 01:33:22,590
YouTube. So like, now they're
flying private jet because kids

1507
01:33:22,590 --> 01:33:26,370
are leery about record
contracts. You know, like

1508
01:33:26,370 --> 01:33:28,740
signing a written contract is
kind of like signing your life

1509
01:33:28,740 --> 01:33:29,070
away.

1510
01:33:30,059 --> 01:33:32,309
Adam Curry: Every single kid
would do it in a heartbeat

1511
01:33:32,309 --> 01:33:35,399
because they're the worshipping
false idols. They see it. Oh,

1512
01:33:35,399 --> 01:33:36,089
this is great.

1513
01:33:37,649 --> 01:33:42,059
Unknown: I'm not sure about
that. No, I'm not sure I, I

1514
01:33:42,059 --> 01:33:47,219
would say people my age, maybe
down to 30. Yes. But the newer

1515
01:33:47,249 --> 01:33:50,999
crowd, they're like, oh, no, I
can upload mine to whatever, you

1516
01:33:50,999 --> 01:33:53,069
know that. But here's the point.

1517
01:33:53,069 --> 01:33:54,929
Adam Curry: I was trying to make
no stop, stop right there.

1518
01:33:55,259 --> 01:33:58,649
That's the trap. I can upload
mine to whatever that and then

1519
01:33:58,649 --> 01:34:02,669
you get some money on YouTube.
And then you're in the trap. And

1520
01:34:02,669 --> 01:34:06,239
then you you got to do it five
times a week. You got to trick

1521
01:34:06,239 --> 01:34:08,759
the algos. You got that's the
trap.

1522
01:34:09,330 --> 01:34:13,620
Unknown: This is why it was off
putting to find out that the

1523
01:34:13,620 --> 01:34:17,940
daily wire had big tech looking
over their shoulder. You see

1524
01:34:17,940 --> 01:34:21,900
what saying? Oh, I thought it
was I thought we were free over

1525
01:34:21,900 --> 01:34:26,400
here. But even that point, a lot
of people are not even monetized

1526
01:34:26,400 --> 01:34:30,300
on YouTube, to the point where I
never accepted the quote unquote

1527
01:34:30,300 --> 01:34:34,110
partnership. Because it's like,
Nah, I don't sign stuff. I don't

1528
01:34:34,110 --> 01:34:38,850
understand. You know, there's
too much what can you say to me?

1529
01:34:39,240 --> 01:34:43,260
And a lot of times like that's
why I guess knock on wood. I

1530
01:34:43,260 --> 01:34:46,080
don't get bothered on YouTube,
even when I post these shows,

1531
01:34:46,410 --> 01:34:50,760
because like they're making free
money off for me by putting ads

1532
01:34:50,820 --> 01:34:51,240
on it.

1533
01:34:52,950 --> 01:34:55,050
Adam Curry: For free. They've
also taken They've also taken

1534
01:34:55,050 --> 01:34:59,550
one of our shows down I think
there's we've at least had one

1535
01:34:59,550 --> 01:35:00,480
that was taken Come down.

1536
01:35:00,510 --> 01:35:04,860
Unknown: Yeah, it was more of a
cost of music. Okay, more than

1537
01:35:04,860 --> 01:35:07,710
the content I'm just saying that
they look at me like he's a

1538
01:35:07,710 --> 01:35:10,800
fool. He's working for free. You
know, that's that's how they

1539
01:35:10,800 --> 01:35:13,170
look at it because they're
making money off of putting ads

1540
01:35:13,170 --> 01:35:19,440
on my on my show, but I'm like,
Okay, fine. I'll let you put ads

1541
01:35:19,440 --> 01:35:22,710
on my show as long as you don't
bother me. And even still, like

1542
01:35:22,710 --> 01:35:25,440
I said, I never I never signed
that deal and I think a lot of

1543
01:35:25,440 --> 01:35:30,870
people are going to that that
it's it's we've been here with

1544
01:35:30,870 --> 01:35:34,620
music before and we can kind of
like rap on him saying and Gary

1545
01:35:34,620 --> 01:35:37,800
go to the cuz we kind of covered
what was in this this back and

1546
01:35:37,800 --> 01:35:40,620
forth. We're having in the plain
English to the contract. So you

1547
01:35:40,620 --> 01:35:44,340
have far more experience with
these like the music business,

1548
01:35:44,340 --> 01:35:48,720
but it's a we've been here
before

1549
01:35:48,750 --> 01:35:51,180
Adam Curry: what hold on with,
you know, when it was pure when

1550
01:35:51,180 --> 01:35:55,020
hip hop was was making beats at
home, putting it on a cassette

1551
01:35:55,140 --> 01:35:59,430
making cassettes that was pure
that is that is the purest,

1552
01:35:59,460 --> 01:36:03,960
that's like podcasting. That is
completely pure. We need to go

1553
01:36:03,960 --> 01:36:08,400
back to do a version of that, a
modern day version of that, and

1554
01:36:08,400 --> 01:36:10,830
we're gonna throw it away. It's
gonna happen with music, but

1555
01:36:10,830 --> 01:36:13,260
they're not going to go easy.
They're not going up. They're

1556
01:36:13,260 --> 01:36:16,470
gonna do everything they can to
stop it because they love their

1557
01:36:16,500 --> 01:36:20,910
plantation. And that's not just
for black artists. That's for

1558
01:36:20,910 --> 01:36:24,660
all artists, Taylor Swift here,
because her dad had the

1559
01:36:24,660 --> 01:36:28,800
influence and the money he has.
That's how she was able to

1560
01:36:28,920 --> 01:36:34,770
rerecord all of her masters.
circumvent all the lawsuits so

1561
01:36:34,770 --> 01:36:38,040
she could have her quote
unquote, her music back, but she

1562
01:36:38,040 --> 01:36:42,270
too, took the big money up front
from scooter. Like okay, let's

1563
01:36:42,270 --> 01:36:45,510
go. Let's let's do it. He has
your bag of cash, go make some

1564
01:36:45,510 --> 01:36:48,390
songs. And then always laters
like, well give me my masters

1565
01:36:48,390 --> 01:36:52,680
back now. Oh, so you gave it
away, and they

1566
01:36:52,680 --> 01:36:56,190
Unknown: just opposer against
the boogey man Kanye stuff. I

1567
01:36:56,190 --> 01:36:56,490
mean,

1568
01:36:56,550 --> 01:36:59,040
Adam Curry: that was that was
well done. That was That was her

1569
01:36:59,040 --> 01:37:01,380
did too. I'm sure I'm sure he
arranged that.

1570
01:37:02,520 --> 01:37:06,150
Unknown: I can see that
happening. But we're grateful to

1571
01:37:06,150 --> 01:37:12,210
the people that allow us to be
free. Yes, you know, we don't

1572
01:37:12,210 --> 01:37:15,390
have to get free who would never
sign the paperwork. So we I

1573
01:37:15,420 --> 01:37:16,620
think it's time that we thank
them.

1574
01:37:16,680 --> 01:37:19,860
First, the white man in the
black man have to be able to sit

1575
01:37:19,860 --> 01:37:22,950
down at the same table, the
white man has to feel free to

1576
01:37:22,950 --> 01:37:25,950
speak his mind without hurting
the feelings of that negro. And

1577
01:37:25,950 --> 01:37:29,100
the so called Negro has to feel
free to speak his mind without

1578
01:37:29,100 --> 01:37:31,680
hurting the feelings of the
white man, then they can bring

1579
01:37:31,680 --> 01:37:34,350
the issues that are under the
rug out on top of the table and

1580
01:37:34,350 --> 01:37:36,840
take an intelligent approach to
get the problem solved. That's

1581
01:37:36,840 --> 01:37:38,340
the only way we'll ever do it.

1582
01:37:40,290 --> 01:37:43,110
Adam Curry: Man, I think we're
doing just that. Very proud of

1583
01:37:43,110 --> 01:37:46,140
the work we do. Here it is Mo
facts with Adam curry. This is

1584
01:37:46,140 --> 01:37:49,470
value for value. The stuff we
were just talking about going to

1585
01:37:49,470 --> 01:37:52,320
show you how it works in
practice, what we do is we do

1586
01:37:52,320 --> 01:37:56,280
this show, and we do the best
show we can I would say Mo is

1587
01:37:56,280 --> 01:38:01,290
really the engine. And together
we we bundle this up into

1588
01:38:01,290 --> 01:38:04,260
something that gives a lot of
people value and we all we ask

1589
01:38:04,260 --> 01:38:07,770
is for people to hand that value
back to us in any way that makes

1590
01:38:07,770 --> 01:38:10,830
sense to them. We cannot look
into your pocketbook. We don't

1591
01:38:10,830 --> 01:38:15,900
know if $5 is a lot or nothing
to you. And actually today is a

1592
01:38:15,930 --> 01:38:20,430
is a very interesting example of
how value for value works and

1593
01:38:20,430 --> 01:38:28,140
how surprisingly well it can
work because we have a donor who

1594
01:38:28,140 --> 01:38:32,850
has also supported no agenda and
podcasting 2.0 In the last month

1595
01:38:33,090 --> 01:38:37,260
now comes in from Moe facts
Serrana Mr. Dogpatch in lower

1596
01:38:37,260 --> 01:38:42,930
Slavia that is all we know about
him. And he all he asked for is

1597
01:38:44,430 --> 01:38:47,580
his just to it just thanks.
Actually, it says thank you. And

1598
01:38:47,580 --> 01:38:55,110
he supported us for this episode
with $3,506 which is mind

1599
01:38:55,110 --> 01:39:00,300
boggling. I think it's the same
amount he he donated it's always

1600
01:39:00,300 --> 01:39:04,050
different amounts, we have no
idea what they mean. All three

1601
01:39:04,050 --> 01:39:07,680
of these entities he gave it
ended with a six. And it's all

1602
01:39:07,680 --> 01:39:11,490
in cash, which he gave us in
three $2 bills. So there is a

1603
01:39:11,490 --> 01:39:16,440
pattern. I've emailed with him
many times, mainly to thank him.

1604
01:39:16,800 --> 01:39:19,620
And this is just a guy who just
really appreciates what we're

1605
01:39:19,620 --> 01:39:24,600
doing. And Holy Cow thank you
sir autonomous.

1606
01:39:25,710 --> 01:39:32,070
Unknown: Yeah, you're gonna say
value like that. is I don't know

1607
01:39:32,070 --> 01:39:34,470
if I lose you all.

1608
01:39:35,729 --> 01:39:37,439
Adam Curry: And you know, and
that may or may not be a lot of

1609
01:39:37,439 --> 01:39:39,029
money to him. I don't know.

1610
01:39:39,030 --> 01:39:42,960
Unknown: Of course, of course. I
mean, I'm just saying that the

1611
01:39:42,960 --> 01:39:47,250
thought cuz I'm not big on gifts
and I don't like well, you

1612
01:39:47,250 --> 01:39:51,420
won't, you know, whatever, but
when you get a gift like okay,

1613
01:39:51,450 --> 01:39:55,050
like if you put a lot of thought
into that. And the fact you know

1614
01:39:55,050 --> 01:39:59,250
he appreciates the show like
that. You know that that just

1615
01:39:59,250 --> 01:40:04,560
like okay, We're doing something
right here. Sir. Is that

1616
01:40:04,560 --> 01:40:04,860
correct?

1617
01:40:04,860 --> 01:40:06,840
Adam Curry: Certainly are for
him. And I know he'll love this

1618
01:40:07,020 --> 01:40:10,170
show because as far as I know, I
think he's Muslim. So he'll love

1619
01:40:10,170 --> 01:40:13,590
all the religion chat and he's
the first guy to congratulate a

1620
01:40:13,650 --> 01:40:19,830
Happy Happy Hanukkah to the
Jews. It will do. He's, he's

1621
01:40:19,830 --> 01:40:23,700
really equal opportunity. loves
that guy. Thank you, Shauna. Mr.

1622
01:40:23,700 --> 01:40:24,540
Dogpatch. Oh,

1623
01:40:24,540 --> 01:40:26,820
Unknown: wait, wait, wait, wait,
what? You gotta give him his big

1624
01:40:26,820 --> 01:40:27,540
baller, though.

1625
01:40:27,600 --> 01:40:32,100
Adam Curry: Oh, what am I even
thinking? I'm so yeah, I was so

1626
01:40:32,100 --> 01:40:33,390
blown away. I'm out of practice.

1627
01:40:34,439 --> 01:40:38,159
Unknown: Sakala 20 is Blaze.
Only Impala

1628
01:40:38,189 --> 01:40:41,309
Adam Curry: absolutely massive
baller. Thank you very much.

1629
01:40:41,699 --> 01:40:48,239
Then we have dude named Ben
named Ben Benjamin Unitas also

1630
01:40:48,239 --> 01:40:52,139
no stranger to supporting the
shows. Tonight, he says and he

1631
01:40:52,139 --> 01:40:56,969
comes in with $366.99. I like
that the six six and the nine

1632
01:40:56,969 --> 01:41:01,139
nine. juxtaposing each other.
Tonight he says I thought of a

1633
01:41:01,139 --> 01:41:03,509
college history paper I wrote
about the rise of the Third

1634
01:41:03,509 --> 01:41:06,179
Reich having done the research
and writing in less than 24

1635
01:41:06,179 --> 01:41:09,209
hours. The all nighter was worth
it, including my high school

1636
01:41:09,209 --> 01:41:12,149
Russian and Indian history
classes that I drew upon heavily

1637
01:41:12,239 --> 01:41:16,109
in my most recent lengthy email
to Adam, which we do correspond.

1638
01:41:16,439 --> 01:41:19,469
It's simply amazing that a
podcast gets you to value your

1639
01:41:19,469 --> 01:41:23,399
education even more decades
later, when I'm still learning

1640
01:41:23,459 --> 01:41:28,169
new things such as three, six
and nine whilst being a dude

1641
01:41:28,169 --> 01:41:32,009
named Ben named Ben. Love that
Ben. Thank you very much.

1642
01:41:33,059 --> 01:41:36,689
Important numbers, numbers,
numbers, numerology. Then we

1643
01:41:36,689 --> 01:41:42,239
have Kevin are $240 No note, but
we certainly do appreciate it.

1644
01:41:42,239 --> 01:41:45,299
Kevin, if you intended to send a
note we'll be happy to read it

1645
01:41:45,299 --> 01:41:49,349
next time. Michael Conti $200 He
says I find your analysis eye

1646
01:41:49,349 --> 01:41:53,009
opening and look forward to each
episode. You know what so do i I

1647
01:41:53,009 --> 01:41:58,319
never know what's coming. DD or
M says mo hope this email finds

1648
01:41:58,319 --> 01:42:00,479
you and your family well just
wanted to see if there were any

1649
01:42:00,479 --> 01:42:03,479
issues that I could assist with
concerning the $50 donations

1650
01:42:03,479 --> 01:42:06,509
that my bank sent in December
and in January. I'm getting a

1651
01:42:06,509 --> 01:42:09,629
Notice that neither one was
quote cleared by the payee. I

1652
01:42:09,629 --> 01:42:12,179
guess this means that the funds
were sent but never acknowledged

1653
01:42:12,209 --> 01:42:16,529
on your end. Please advise now
it's $150 What happened there mo

1654
01:42:16,529 --> 01:42:17,159
do is that it

1655
01:42:17,160 --> 01:42:19,770
Unknown: was three checks for
$50 which that had been

1656
01:42:19,770 --> 01:42:26,070
resolved. It was a filing issue
that I lost the envelope with

1657
01:42:26,070 --> 01:42:30,630
the checks and nothing more than
that. Okay, because I bank in

1658
01:42:30,630 --> 01:42:33,450
another town. It's one of those
kinds of things where your bank

1659
01:42:33,840 --> 01:42:41,910
closest branches necklace. Yeah,
so I had it in my impeccable

1660
01:42:41,910 --> 01:42:46,110
filing system. And somebody's
rearranged all my papers.

1661
01:42:46,169 --> 01:42:49,019
Adam Curry: Oh, I hate it when
that happens.

1662
01:42:49,950 --> 01:42:52,380
Unknown: And I couldn't find it
for the life of me and then

1663
01:42:52,380 --> 01:42:54,900
we're stuck somewhere which you
wouldn't believe so that's been

1664
01:42:54,900 --> 01:42:58,980
rectified and all right. There
might be some checks that might

1665
01:42:58,980 --> 01:43:03,900
get returned as far as like this
tom was because that was the

1666
01:43:03,900 --> 01:43:06,690
issue. That's fine. Do you still
get recognized value so don't

1667
01:43:06,690 --> 01:43:07,170
worry horse

1668
01:43:07,200 --> 01:43:10,080
Adam Curry: do do thank you so
much. Right? Brandon Shipley

1669
01:43:10,080 --> 01:43:15,060
121 76 Just as value for number
four value value for value which

1670
01:43:15,090 --> 01:43:17,790
reminds me if you'd like to
learn more about value for value

1671
01:43:17,820 --> 01:43:21,810
build a website around that
value for value dot info value

1672
01:43:21,810 --> 01:43:26,280
number four value dot info. Kyle
man or Kylie My thing is Kyle

1673
01:43:26,280 --> 01:43:32,310
man $150 No, no thank you Kyle.
Adam Carter $100 You guys are

1674
01:43:32,310 --> 01:43:34,710
doing the Lord's work. Thank you
for the brilliant and

1675
01:43:34,710 --> 01:43:38,130
enlightening discussion shout
out to my bro Aaron C of the we

1676
01:43:38,130 --> 01:43:43,230
talk about dead people podcast
donates Timo facts. I gotta

1677
01:43:43,230 --> 01:43:46,260
listen to that. Sounds like a
fun show. We talked about dead

1678
01:43:46,260 --> 01:43:50,760
people $100 from Brandon Archer.
You guys don't miss nothing but

1679
01:43:50,760 --> 01:43:53,880
the hits nothing but the hits
nothing but the MF and hits.

1680
01:43:54,810 --> 01:44:00,030
Thank you, Brandon 100 from
Brian Burgess sent email as a

1681
01:44:00,030 --> 01:44:03,390
donation note to Gmail. Is that
one of the pieces of

1682
01:44:03,390 --> 01:44:07,800
Unknown: papers? Yeah, I
searched on it. Okay, Brian,

1683
01:44:08,430 --> 01:44:11,940
Adam Curry: resend it, send it
to. You can try me if it didn't

1684
01:44:11,940 --> 01:44:15,480
go to Gmail, who knows? I'm at
curry.com She wouldn't get it

1685
01:44:15,480 --> 01:44:15,570
and

1686
01:44:15,569 --> 01:44:17,279
Unknown: we'll read it right at
the top of the next show. Of

1687
01:44:17,279 --> 01:44:17,819
course.

1688
01:44:18,690 --> 01:44:23,100
Adam Curry: We have Dame Vox of
the gateway and she sends us

1689
01:44:23,100 --> 01:44:30,750
$100 and has a note here, which
was happily mo you scan it for

1690
01:44:30,750 --> 01:44:35,130
me happy solstice was just
coming a little late. It's the

1691
01:44:35,130 --> 01:44:37,860
happy Solstice. I really
appreciate what you guys are

1692
01:44:37,860 --> 01:44:40,980
doing here. I won the COVID
trifecta. Within two years I

1693
01:44:40,980 --> 01:44:44,340
lost my father my mother and my
best friend none died is direct

1694
01:44:44,340 --> 01:44:48,090
cause of C 19. All of them are
dead today in some sense because

1695
01:44:48,090 --> 01:44:51,720
of the media, and it's
irresponsible portrayal of the

1696
01:44:51,720 --> 01:44:56,280
disease and the jab. For that
reason among numerous others, I

1697
01:44:56,280 --> 01:44:59,970
will forever be loyal to
independent media V for v star

1698
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:04,260
Oh wow, it's very nice. Tim
appropriate for the shop. Yes,

1699
01:45:04,260 --> 01:45:07,500
Tim my best friend for 30 years.
Yeah, mainstream media kills

1700
01:45:07,500 --> 01:45:12,030
people. Tim my best friend for
30 plus years was a black dude.

1701
01:45:12,090 --> 01:45:16,260
And I'm a white chick back in
the 90s nobody cared. Oh girl,

1702
01:45:16,290 --> 01:45:21,120
you should have seen the 70s We
were like we Everyone wanted a

1703
01:45:21,120 --> 01:45:25,680
fro. I think it was a golden age
with regard to race. Sure, we

1704
01:45:25,680 --> 01:45:28,740
saw a color but we didn't give a
crap about it. Our sex didn't

1705
01:45:28,740 --> 01:45:32,040
matter either. We were just two
people who both loved music we'd

1706
01:45:32,040 --> 01:45:34,950
excellent food craft beer
gaming, and we had mutual

1707
01:45:34,950 --> 01:45:38,460
respect and admiration. I missed
him. I like it though that your

1708
01:45:38,460 --> 01:45:41,910
podcast seems to try to capture
some of what we had and maybe

1709
01:45:41,910 --> 01:45:45,660
bring it back please credit this
donation to him. We have he

1710
01:45:45,660 --> 01:45:48,420
would have liked you to
blessings from Dane Vox of the

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01:45:48,420 --> 01:45:51,630
gateway What a beautiful note
the inbox Thank you. And of

1712
01:45:51,630 --> 01:45:54,660
course we've always had our
troubles but believe me it was

1713
01:45:54,660 --> 01:45:58,590
wet and mowing I've spoken
specifically about the 70s and

1714
01:45:58,590 --> 01:46:02,790
it's what our parents really
messed us up to be honest. But

1715
01:46:02,790 --> 01:46:03,690
it's never really

1716
01:46:03,690 --> 01:46:05,730
Unknown: been dressed up to go
play. Yes, right.

1717
01:46:05,730 --> 01:46:11,010
Adam Curry: It's never quite
been this bad. Sir Alexander 100

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01:46:11,010 --> 01:46:13,440
Here's some coin to help the
cause keep up the great work sir

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01:46:13,440 --> 01:46:17,280
Alexandra. Thank you. Philip B
brown $100.73 You

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01:46:17,280 --> 01:46:18,000
Unknown: skipped over

1721
01:46:19,380 --> 01:46:24,150
Adam Curry: I'm sorry. Yes, G
Allen H also $100 Who? Let me

1722
01:46:24,150 --> 01:46:31,020
see which also sent in a note I
think it's this one Mr. Facts

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01:46:31,020 --> 01:46:35,970
and Mr. Curry great handwriting.
A little value for value thank

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01:46:35,970 --> 01:46:40,530
you all for the effort it takes
to give the world the MO facts

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01:46:40,530 --> 01:46:43,500
show love the content just

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01:46:45,030 --> 01:46:46,590
Unknown: wish or worse for a day
when

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01:46:46,590 --> 01:46:49,020
Adam Curry: we all would have
the discussions Moe and Adam

1728
01:46:49,020 --> 01:46:53,430
have please keep the episodes
coming best wishes be well thank

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01:46:53,430 --> 01:46:58,110
you wow great handwriting I wish
I could write like that. We all

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01:46:58,410 --> 01:47:02,190
right. So we did Sir Alexander
Thank you very much it Philip B

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01:47:02,190 --> 01:47:07,440
brown 170 threes he says kilo
one five November Tango Yankee

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01:47:07,590 --> 01:47:12,840
7570 threes kilo five Alpha
Charlie Charlie ham radio talk

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01:47:14,280 --> 01:47:19,830
to via Willis $100. To VSS blew
my mind on the last one, guys.

1734
01:47:20,520 --> 01:47:24,600
Thank you. My mind has always
blown and we do this. Those who

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01:47:24,600 --> 01:47:26,880
are executive producers. Now we
have some Associate Executive

1736
01:47:26,880 --> 01:47:31,650
producers and we'll read those
those go up until 50. And we

1737
01:47:31,650 --> 01:47:35,640
will read in a second show and
we'll read the rest and we kick

1738
01:47:35,640 --> 01:47:40,260
it off with Kyle Stefano. Or
Stefano 90 Oh, that's Dame Kylie

1739
01:47:40,320 --> 01:47:45,180
Dame Kylie? Yes, Kylie. Thanks
and loves from Dame girl Kylie

1740
01:47:45,180 --> 01:47:47,610
and I think her name is Kyle
even though it's Kylie and she's

1741
01:47:47,610 --> 01:47:50,070
a girl and I've gone through
this so many times with her I'll

1742
01:47:50,070 --> 01:47:53,310
never get it right. But thank
you for the dame girl part.

1743
01:47:53,790 --> 01:47:58,170
Bradley Taylor show 90 donation
GBG these are both show 90

1744
01:47:58,170 --> 01:48:00,960
donation so you do get a special
spot in the credits skip gonna

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01:48:00,990 --> 01:48:05,310
give blacks guns. Thank you,
Bradley. That Matthew M $60. No

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01:48:05,310 --> 01:48:10,620
note no note from Michael
Romano. But $55.33 magic number

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01:48:10,620 --> 01:48:16,110
there see Davis $53.33. No note
Eric Hoko from Deutschland 52.

1748
01:48:16,110 --> 01:48:19,890
Thank you, Eric. Brian
Richardson is at the $50 level.

1749
01:48:19,890 --> 01:48:23,340
I waited too long to donate. I
apologize. But I knew q1 was

1750
01:48:23,340 --> 01:48:27,090
going to get everyone back on
track. So I have to reciprocate

1751
01:48:27,090 --> 01:48:30,360
V for V. It's great seeing two
episodes in less than two to

1752
01:48:30,360 --> 01:48:35,730
three weeks. Again, we try. We
need more facts. PS I love Don't

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01:48:35,730 --> 01:48:39,810
be a menace and the hashtag GBG
jingle is the best followed by

1754
01:48:39,810 --> 01:48:43,920
Martin Lawrence's WUSA keep on
keeping on. Okay, hold on a

1755
01:48:43,920 --> 01:48:46,590
second. Now it is. I guess he's
asking for these.

1756
01:48:46,980 --> 01:48:49,950
Unknown: Yes, I believe so. And
you missed. This goes for

1757
01:48:49,950 --> 01:48:54,330
Bradley as well. What I missed
the GBG jingle. Oh, yeah,

1758
01:48:54,360 --> 01:48:57,780
Adam Curry: I'm still looking
for the dumpee menace. Was that

1759
01:48:57,960 --> 01:48:58,590
we left that

1760
01:48:58,590 --> 01:49:01,530
Unknown: is that is the GBG
jingle that's from the movie.

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01:49:01,590 --> 01:49:02,760
Oh,

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01:49:02,790 --> 01:49:06,360
Adam Curry: okay. Hold on a
second. I got it. Here. We

1763
01:49:13,890 --> 01:49:27,390
go I got it. There we go. Edwin
Taurus. $50 GBG. We have $50

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01:49:27,390 --> 01:49:34,920
from Janice Oh $50 from Janice.
Oh, let's see. Here we go. Do

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01:49:34,920 --> 01:49:40,050
your MO fax, thank you for
episodes and more or less. Like

1766
01:49:40,050 --> 01:49:44,610
say thank you failure for 84
More or less and 85. Over man

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01:49:44,670 --> 01:49:48,900
over man was what do you titled
it? I love the I love the worm

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01:49:48,900 --> 01:49:52,650
holes, rabbit holes and mole
halls. Yours Janice with a

1769
01:49:52,650 --> 01:49:54,450
smiley face. Thank you very
much, Janice.

1770
01:49:55,349 --> 01:49:57,329
Unknown: Now the great
handwriting. Right,

1771
01:49:57,540 --> 01:50:00,420
Adam Curry: Jill woods. Thank
you. There you go. Peace. Oh

1772
01:50:00,420 --> 01:50:05,880
listen to mo facts have
beautiful handwriting. Fact. Joe

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01:50:05,880 --> 01:50:09,720
Woods $50 Thank you for both for
being awesome mad please have

1774
01:50:09,720 --> 01:50:16,980
some mo karma. Well of course
you can. You've got Judy Swartz

1775
01:50:16,980 --> 01:50:20,100
$50 Thank you both for
enlightening us to the game plan

1776
01:50:20,760 --> 01:50:26,400
anytime Rahmi M $50 cards and
business cards.

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01:50:27,329 --> 01:50:31,589
Unknown: Yep. We have the card
and she has the pottery business

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01:50:31,919 --> 01:50:35,909
only now that pottery excuse me
the basket weaving Biscay is

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01:50:35,909 --> 01:50:37,199
here learn asking we

1780
01:50:39,000 --> 01:50:42,030
Adam Curry: biscuit for her
birthday in a basket. Remy

1781
01:50:42,030 --> 01:50:46,620
McKinney There you go. basket
weaver, fiber artist and

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01:50:46,620 --> 01:50:50,250
teacher. And she says learn
something every time I listen.

1783
01:50:50,250 --> 01:50:52,680
Thank you. Thank you. That's
cool. I liked that.

1784
01:50:53,310 --> 01:50:56,160
Unknown: She should have a
website. If she does.

1785
01:50:56,670 --> 01:50:58,230
Adam Curry: I don't see it on
the card.

1786
01:50:58,260 --> 01:51:00,630
Unknown: No that was no she has
a missing me. She has a weird

1787
01:51:01,380 --> 01:51:04,800
phone number and email address
which if you're looking to get

1788
01:51:04,800 --> 01:51:08,070
in touch with her, we'll we'll
try to find some way to post it

1789
01:51:08,070 --> 01:51:09,600
Adam Curry: was definitely
definitely

1790
01:51:10,890 --> 01:51:14,700
Unknown: while we were there.
I'm sorry. I said basket weaver.

1791
01:51:15,180 --> 01:51:18,810
It's a joke was not really bad.
There are now really not not.

1792
01:51:19,320 --> 01:51:20,670
Not her work is no joke.

1793
01:51:20,700 --> 01:51:24,930
Adam Curry: And also nice
handwriting. Rocks. Easter is

1794
01:51:24,930 --> 01:51:30,630
coming up. Yes. baskets. You
need a basket. My jaw hurts. Mo

1795
01:51:30,660 --> 01:51:32,550
I've been smiling and laughing
this whole show.

1796
01:51:33,000 --> 01:51:36,450
Unknown: I'm sorry. I should
have did a Saturday production.

1797
01:51:36,450 --> 01:51:36,780
No,

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01:51:36,780 --> 01:51:40,050
Adam Curry: no, no. Yes. Yeah,
exactly. sad, depressing shows

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01:51:40,080 --> 01:51:44,130
for average health. Roberts
dager $50. New money. Thank you.

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01:51:44,130 --> 01:51:47,190
We love the new money. Thank
you, Robert. Justin D, our final

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01:51:47,220 --> 01:51:52,980
Associate Executive Producer $50
Each episode has a mind F 89 for

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01:51:52,980 --> 01:51:57,060
me was at night. Oh, it's just
hashtag at nines for me was at

1803
01:51:57,060 --> 01:52:02,040
90 minutes. So is that where it
blew his mind at night?

1804
01:52:02,370 --> 01:52:03,930
Unknown: So that's when he got
the tarp out? Yep.

1805
01:52:06,750 --> 01:52:09,000
Adam Curry: These are the
executive and Associate

1806
01:52:09,000 --> 01:52:11,700
Executive producers for episode
number 90. I'm gonna do some

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01:52:11,700 --> 01:52:15,360
booster grams real quick because
people really been doing a great

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job using a modern podcast app.
In fact, they're so modern. They

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are now just the podcast apps
you can find one of these at

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podcast apps.com which we now
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for us podcast apps.com. That's
where you can find many of the

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value for value podcast apps, I
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people seem to like that or pod
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you're on iOS a great app for
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all of these you can buy
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with your card. No longer have
to do it through cash app. You

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01:52:51,420 --> 01:52:54,060
can send it straight to us while
you're listening to the show

1818
01:52:54,060 --> 01:53:00,000
with a booster gram or not. As
we see 333,333 SATs from

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01:53:00,030 --> 01:53:03,780
absurdity and no message. But we
really do appreciate it. Do you

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want 1000 SATs from Bully steed
with my n bully steed says with

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01:53:09,030 --> 01:53:13,620
my $45 etc to the PIO box. This
should add up to show number 90.

1822
01:53:15,240 --> 01:53:18,960
Okay, so that would problem
check the accounting here

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01:53:18,960 --> 01:53:19,980
because that would mean

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01:53:19,980 --> 01:53:20,190
Unknown: Yeah,

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01:53:20,219 --> 01:53:22,769
I don't see Buli on here. Well,
we

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01:53:22,770 --> 01:53:23,880
Adam Curry: have Betty s.

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01:53:24,840 --> 01:53:29,460
Unknown: Maybe he's bully. I
don't know. I don't know when

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01:53:29,460 --> 01:53:32,490
we're gonna put them up on the
show title with me. This is an

1829
01:53:32,490 --> 01:53:33,090
honor system.

1830
01:53:33,120 --> 01:53:35,130
Adam Curry: Of course. Of
course. That'd be the show

1831
01:53:35,130 --> 01:53:38,610
donation number. Right. Could
you smoke karma thank you both

1832
01:53:38,610 --> 01:53:47,340
for being a light in the tunnel.
You've got we've got Jacob Davis

1833
01:53:47,550 --> 01:53:50,940
123456 sets these are good
numbers. Keep up the great work.

1834
01:53:50,940 --> 01:53:54,240
I'm excited to hear what you
deconstruct next. 100,000 SATs

1835
01:53:54,240 --> 01:53:59,850
from Dennis K. Love you both 55
Seven YouTube Oh 55,072 For

1836
01:53:59,850 --> 01:54:04,350
Merlin. Thank you Eric 99 with
50,000 SATs stay humble stack

1837
01:54:04,350 --> 01:54:09,660
SATs wise words from Odell
369 69 from Hey citizen. This

1838
01:54:09,660 --> 01:54:12,810
show is one of the most magical
hits me every hits me in the

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01:54:12,810 --> 01:54:16,200
fields every time to bet I can't
afford what it's worth well,

1840
01:54:16,230 --> 01:54:19,980
though. That's exactly what
we're talking about. Whatever

1841
01:54:19,980 --> 01:54:22,620
you can afford, if that's your
max that's worth a lot and we

1842
01:54:22,620 --> 01:54:27,750
appreciate it. whoosah from Todd
in Northern Virginia with 20,000

1843
01:54:27,750 --> 01:54:42,510
SATs we'll get there now we have
1234567 20 1000s in a row. So

1844
01:54:42,510 --> 01:54:50,010
that really puts van demand Jr
up there with 210,000 If I get

1845
01:54:50,010 --> 01:54:54,990
that no 140,000 Check out that
correctly. Another great Listen,

1846
01:54:54,990 --> 01:54:58,020
keep reversing the conditioning
please one more in the finished

1847
01:54:58,020 --> 01:55:00,990
column listening my way to
current more catch more to catch

1848
01:55:00,990 --> 01:55:03,810
up, catching up on the back
catalogue doing some catching up

1849
01:55:03,810 --> 01:55:08,100
defragment me please defrag we
do D dead beating here.

1850
01:55:09,150 --> 01:55:14,340
Unknown: Congratulations. You're
no longer a deadbeat.

1851
01:55:14,640 --> 01:55:17,190
Adam Curry: Say a satchel of
Richard's also known as a bag of

1852
01:55:17,190 --> 01:55:24,060
dicks from Joel Wu 11,111 Mark
see with 10,500 cost peeling

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01:55:24,060 --> 01:55:27,150
says Wow, what a show eat your
beef and peas and please keep

1854
01:55:27,150 --> 01:55:32,070
talking with 10,000 SATs sir
Doug Happy New Year. Thank you,

1855
01:55:32,070 --> 01:55:41,250
sir Doug 10,000. Then we have
let's see. Counts of s of of

1856
01:55:41,280 --> 01:55:46,170
count of s San Francisco. Nein
nein nein Nein. Thank you very

1857
01:55:46,170 --> 01:55:50,640
much for your donation. Dave
Ackerman with a boob 808 value

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01:55:50,640 --> 01:55:56,640
for value episode 89. De Bozak
was also a boob donation. 808.

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01:55:56,880 --> 01:56:02,460
Note, green sheep with 6969
asked for a dilution.

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01:56:04,170 --> 01:56:09,210
Unknown: Congratulations. You're
no longer a dead bee.

1861
01:56:09,240 --> 01:56:14,850
Adam Curry: And then another
115,000 from ta via who also

1862
01:56:14,850 --> 01:56:18,150
came in strong on last episode,
nothing intelligent to say just

1863
01:56:18,150 --> 01:56:21,270
thanks for the quality content
guys. You better believe it.

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These are we've been under a
little bit under the 5000. But

1865
01:56:25,560 --> 01:56:29,430
these are the boosters thank you
so much. We read all of them. If

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you're in the fountain app, you
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thank you all so much for

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supporting Moe facts with Adam
curry. You can do that by it for

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01:56:44,670 --> 01:56:50,280
your paypal or Cash App
donations go to the donation

1871
01:56:50,280 --> 01:56:54,900
page at mo facts.com Or go
directly there at mo fund me.com

1872
01:56:54,900 --> 01:56:58,920
and oefund.com Thank you very
much for supporting episode 90

1873
01:56:59,100 --> 01:57:00,450
mo facts with Adam curry.

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01:57:03,390 --> 01:57:08,670
Unknown: Alright, so now we we
got to the no just the surface

1875
01:57:08,670 --> 01:57:13,020
level back and forth with
between Steven Crowder and the

1876
01:57:13,020 --> 01:57:18,870
daily wire. But now we got to go
into what the accusation means

1877
01:57:18,870 --> 01:57:24,480
when you say big con is in bed
with big tech. We got to go back

1878
01:57:24,480 --> 01:57:27,330
to the heels report. And we're
going to pick up with clip

1879
01:57:27,330 --> 01:57:28,200
number 21.

1880
01:57:28,500 --> 01:57:34,260
This is a guy who says that
literally his brethren in

1881
01:57:34,260 --> 01:57:38,520
conservative on the conservative
right is in bed with or has

1882
01:57:38,520 --> 01:57:42,180
these cushy deals with a lot of
the big tech companies. Well

1883
01:57:42,180 --> 01:57:46,890
guess what so does everybody big
tech is the is the reason why

1884
01:57:46,890 --> 01:57:50,460
many many of us have voices in
media. They carry the message on

1885
01:57:50,460 --> 01:57:53,460
YouTube on Twitter on Instagram
on tick tock all of that big

1886
01:57:53,460 --> 01:57:56,370
tick without big tech and some
level of communication with

1887
01:57:56,370 --> 01:57:59,490
them. You would not have a
voice. So it's interesting to me

1888
01:57:59,490 --> 01:58:03,270
that he is using this as a
demonization but also that two

1889
01:58:03,270 --> 01:58:05,730
candidates point in I don't
agree with candidates often if

1890
01:58:05,730 --> 01:58:09,120
you are going to have the
squabbles you could have had

1891
01:58:09,120 --> 01:58:12,030
this with them personally, this
never had to come into the

1892
01:58:12,030 --> 01:58:15,240
public square that recording
didn't have to happen. Turn down

1893
01:58:15,240 --> 01:58:18,210
deals. I'm sure everybody on
this panel all of us it probably

1894
01:58:18,210 --> 01:58:22,140
turned down deals before. We
didn't make a public hubbub

1895
01:58:22,140 --> 01:58:23,580
about it. It's just not that
deep.

1896
01:58:24,210 --> 01:58:25,950
Adam Curry: Wow, who is this
speaking?

1897
01:58:26,880 --> 01:58:31,260
Unknown: I didn't get her name.
Sorry about that. She's a

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01:58:31,260 --> 01:58:32,490
contributor for the hill.

1899
01:58:32,519 --> 01:58:35,309
Adam Curry: Now we got we all
got deals we got offers all the

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01:58:35,309 --> 01:58:35,909
time

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01:58:35,939 --> 01:58:39,329
Unknown: right here from us. If
it wasn't for big tech, we're on

1902
01:58:39,329 --> 01:58:47,159
my own. We've been overlooked.
How are you special? Bend over

1903
01:58:47,280 --> 01:58:50,220
Adam Curry: everybody. Thank you
big tech. Thank you, our

1904
01:58:50,220 --> 01:58:53,670
overlords, the big tech model is
you do all the work, you got

1905
01:58:53,670 --> 01:58:55,950
nothing, we get all the money.
That's how it works.

1906
01:58:56,640 --> 01:58:59,460
Unknown: And then they wonder
why they're not worth $50

1907
01:58:59,460 --> 01:59:04,260
million. That's right. You're
not worth $50 million because

1908
01:59:04,260 --> 01:59:07,710
big tech is doing all the heavy
lifting and to be honest with

1909
01:59:07,710 --> 01:59:14,130
you. I'm your content is not the
interesting I'm just sorry. I

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01:59:14,130 --> 01:59:20,100
mean I wouldn't be that way but
you have to be interesting to

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01:59:20,130 --> 01:59:23,070
stand out and build your own
following

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01:59:23,069 --> 01:59:25,529
Adam Curry: you have to make an
outgoing products that's the

1913
01:59:25,529 --> 01:59:27,569
bottom line make an outstanding
product.

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01:59:28,349 --> 01:59:30,899
Unknown: There plug and play and
it's like if you're plugging

1915
01:59:30,899 --> 01:59:35,579
play, then it's easily it's on
to the on the scrappy

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Adam Curry: think about how lame
it really is. If you if you

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really step back and look at
most most of these quote unquote

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shows. It's it's distributed on
big tech. And it's about big

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tech content. It's about what
someone said on Twitter, you

1920
01:59:52,830 --> 01:59:56,940
know, and then it's about what
someone else said on on this

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YouTube let's and we're going to
talk about what that YouTuber

1922
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said on YouTube. tube, they love
it. That's the whole model for

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them.

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Unknown: What more Twitter more
so and that's why when Elon Musk

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bought Twitter, he actually just
bought the AP I mean that the

1926
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modern day version of the AP
because whatever trends on

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Twitter and that could be
astroturf they can make training

1928
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whatever they want. Of course,
yeah, that's down that's what it

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bleeds down to YouTube people
make videos about it on YouTube,

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then eventually makes his way to
articles and

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Adam Curry: articles become
points of discussion on on

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YouTube and on Twitter. It's
very circular.

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Unknown: And if it's viral then
it goes to local news where

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Adam Curry: then pick and Tucker
picks it up or the CNN picks it

1935
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up. Exactly right.

1936
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Unknown: So that's that's pretty
much the point. But it was just

1937
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a matter of fact, she said, Oh,
yeah, we're all in bed with big

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tech. I found that to be
interesting. Because well, let's

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go on and get to the second part
we have to get what does that

1940
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really mean?

1941
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And the acting but the
accusation He's making us the

1942
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daily wire that they're that's
really what's at the heart of

1943
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this that because in his deal
they would take money deduct

1944
02:01:13,199 --> 02:01:17,069
money from him, if he gets in
trouble for the things he says

1945
02:01:17,069 --> 02:01:20,939
and is suspended or something on
YouTube or where or elsewhere

1946
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having that clause in the
contract would be like the daily

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wire caving to big tech
censorship that's the accusation

1948
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which is a really that's a
really serious charge to to put

1949
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on a conservative company like
the daily wire that's always

1950
02:01:39,989 --> 02:01:42,299
complained about Disney and
other places you know, doing

1951
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what will censors want

1952
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but I would question how
uncommon this actually is and I

1953
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say that just because not right?
Not uncommon at all, have you

1954
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become d platformed? To a
certain extent, or you your

1955
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viewership is removed for any
reason and the entire contract

1956
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was based on the viewership and
what you were able to bring

1957
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along with it when that
automatically mean that at some

1958
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point you lose your value to
them I feel like that's

1959
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basically

1960
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exactly what Jeremy boring said
in his response video that look

1961
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if you're with who we're gonna
spend $50 million on you if your

1962
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ability it wouldn't be us
punishing you but if you to

1963
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punishes you, and you're making
you're bringing in far less

1964
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viewers and far less dollars we
just we couldn't continue to pay

1965
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that amount.

1966
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Adam Curry: Yeah, who slave to
who?

1967
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Unknown: Well, we we know who
the slave is. And outlet that

1968
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take the slave contracts are the
overseers Pretty much yeah. You

1969
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know, what they they tell what
their big tech mass is tell you

1970
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what it does say that you know,
you know, the guidelines, you

1971
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know, the rails, the status, the
inbounds, you won't have any

1972
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problems with that censorship in
itself, which that's the whole

1973
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point. This is what I was saying
about Tucker Carlson for a

1974
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minute. I don't think they
understand that. If Fox go is to

1975
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make themselves look better, it
only makes you look worse,

1976
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because like, now you're saying
what you could be, but you're

1977
02:03:12,330 --> 02:03:15,840
not even listening. I'm saying
like, they don't I don't think

1978
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they understand the audience
that tunes into conservative

1979
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media. Um, and I'll just say all
media for that standpoint,

1980
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because we had the same thing
with the A das conversation, you

1981
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know, once he got picked up and
taken to the Russian Bar, big

1982
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media, yeah, as Russian bots,
that was the that was the

1983
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natural response to it. So but
for the people that quote

1984
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unquote, well, I call it a black
thumbs. They don't understand

1985
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that our litmus test to if
you're real, quote, unquote,

1986
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real or not, is very sensitive.
And that goes to the

1987
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conservative side, even the
liberal side, and definitely in

1988
02:03:58,290 --> 02:04:02,280
the black media space that they
try to create, like Roland

1989
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Martin's. But once you start
talking, like once you start

1990
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talking, we pick up on the
Boulais talking points, and it's

1991
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over. So that's why I think
there's so damn maybe she said

1992
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it herself that is so damning
when you make this app, our

1993
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allegation to the daily wire is
that it makes them impotent.

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Adam Curry: Yes, right away in a
very

1995
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Unknown: serious way, which I
think that's why they you misled

1996
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yourself. He didn't say their
name. But they had to come out

1997
02:04:35,040 --> 02:04:38,550
and do damage control just off
the email call people like it

1998
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got to be daily wire, you know,
it was no confirmation. They

1999
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confirmed it themselves,

2000
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Adam Curry: which there was a
reason for that.

2001
02:04:47,160 --> 02:04:49,410
Unknown: Yeah, because you can't
let that thing linger. We gotta

2002
02:04:49,410 --> 02:04:53,460
give it about the money so we
can make about anti semitism and

2003
02:04:53,460 --> 02:04:58,440
get people to shut up talking
about it, but I want to know,

2004
02:04:58,470 --> 02:05:04,560
no, yeah. it because there was
an allegation may in Alex Jones,

2005
02:05:04,560 --> 02:05:09,000
that Eclipse that this was
Operation Mockingbird. So you

2006
02:05:09,000 --> 02:05:12,060
want, you want to give people
where your idea of Mockingbird

2007
02:05:12,060 --> 02:05:15,990
is. And then we're going to get
into a very interesting person

2008
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that has an opinion on it.

2009
02:05:17,310 --> 02:05:21,540
Adam Curry: Mockingbird goes
back to the mid mid to late 60s.

2010
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And the CIA specifically, was
either directly in positions of

2011
02:05:29,850 --> 02:05:33,150
journalistic importance within
the US mainstream media,

2012
02:05:33,150 --> 02:05:36,900
particularly CBS evening news.
But also the New York Times,

2013
02:05:38,100 --> 02:05:42,060
members of my family were
actually in a way involved in

2014
02:05:42,060 --> 02:05:45,540
this to a degree because there's
another layer, which would be

2015
02:05:45,540 --> 02:05:49,050
people who would hand off
stories and quote unquote, news

2016
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to editors, at cetera, and
media. And there's a third part

2017
02:05:56,370 --> 02:06:00,570
of that, which is the circular
circular record reporting, where

2018
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where you do this, I'll just
give an example. You have an

2019
02:06:05,130 --> 02:06:09,120
agent or someone who was able to
get something published in the

2020
02:06:09,120 --> 02:06:14,490
Nairobi times that is
politically important to the US

2021
02:06:14,490 --> 02:06:18,840
or the intelligence agencies.
And then they will talk to their

2022
02:06:19,410 --> 02:06:22,350
their counterparts in the New
York Times and say, Well, you

2023
02:06:22,350 --> 02:06:24,930
know, you can just report on
this because, look, you can say,

2024
02:06:24,930 --> 02:06:29,280
according to the Nairobi times,
this own came out in something

2025
02:06:29,280 --> 02:06:32,940
called the church commission,
led by I think it was either

2026
02:06:32,940 --> 02:06:36,420
senator or Congress, I think,
Senator church, where this was

2027
02:06:36,420 --> 02:06:40,260
admitted openly, although they
couch it a bit, and some had to

2028
02:06:40,260 --> 02:06:46,440
be done in closed session, that
indeed, CIA works within

2029
02:06:46,470 --> 02:06:50,370
mainstream media at the time was
only a few corporations. And

2030
02:06:50,520 --> 02:06:55,590
they they were doing this. And I
think that even though laws were

2031
02:06:55,590 --> 02:06:59,700
put in place, as part of that
Smith Mundt, the Smith Mundt

2032
02:06:59,730 --> 02:07:04,590
Act, which forbade the American
government in any way, including

2033
02:07:04,590 --> 02:07:09,240
the Voice of America, to commit
propaganda on the American

2034
02:07:09,240 --> 02:07:14,700
people. And that was overturned
in 2012, during Barack Obama's

2035
02:07:15,030 --> 02:07:18,570
presidency, as part of the
National Defense Authorization

2036
02:07:18,570 --> 02:07:22,110
Act, and the reason why is the
same outfits that Tucker Carlson

2037
02:07:22,140 --> 02:07:26,310
Tucker, Carlson's father worked
for and controlled at the time,

2038
02:07:26,490 --> 02:07:30,390
we're saying, well, now there's
the internet. So we can't

2039
02:07:30,390 --> 02:07:35,310
function without the risk of
creating some propaganda on our

2040
02:07:35,310 --> 02:07:38,010
own people. Because, hey, it's
the internet. And they went, Oh,

2041
02:07:38,010 --> 02:07:40,590
you're right. And they
overturned it. And so now that's

2042
02:07:40,620 --> 02:07:44,910
I think, since then, since 2012,
there's never been as bad with

2043
02:07:44,910 --> 02:07:50,010
assets, reporting either
directly, or controlling news

2044
02:07:50,010 --> 02:07:53,700
media, and in fact, all media
into Tallis Harry, and I would

2045
02:07:53,700 --> 02:07:57,450
say that we're in Mockingbird
2.0, and maybe 3.0. At this

2046
02:07:57,450 --> 02:07:57,870
point,

2047
02:07:58,260 --> 02:08:02,280
Unknown: it might be micro
Mockingbird. I'm as corny as

2048
02:08:02,280 --> 02:08:04,620
this term. I just call him
because listen to you, it's

2049
02:08:04,620 --> 02:08:07,830
fine. I know how it works. Yeah,
but just listen to you think

2050
02:08:07,830 --> 02:08:13,530
about it. Now they don't have to
plant the stories and just

2051
02:08:13,530 --> 02:08:17,160
publish your newspaper. Just
Well, well, nobody had to

2052
02:08:17,160 --> 02:08:20,460
publish it. They can find
somebody making the point and

2053
02:08:21,390 --> 02:08:24,390
Adam Curry: amplify it. For
instance, I believe Barry Weiss

2054
02:08:24,720 --> 02:08:30,300
is micro Mockingbird. Okay. And
she Yes, because she has, you

2055
02:08:30,300 --> 02:08:35,430
know, I also think to a degree
possibly maybe not even 100% in

2056
02:08:35,430 --> 02:08:38,760
their own with all their
knowledge. But I think Glenn

2057
02:08:38,760 --> 02:08:43,650
Greenwald Matt Taibbi, they are
also receiving Mockingbird

2058
02:08:43,650 --> 02:08:48,750
talking points. Even I would say
even the the entire Twitter

2059
02:08:48,750 --> 02:08:54,090
files from Twitter is very
similar to what Glenn Greenwald

2060
02:08:54,090 --> 02:09:00,690
did with Snowden, maybe 5%, of
what Snowden revealed was

2061
02:09:00,690 --> 02:09:04,260
published in The Guardian and
The New York Times. And I think

2062
02:09:04,260 --> 02:09:07,860
what what is being sent from
lawyers and other people who

2063
02:09:07,950 --> 02:09:11,250
have the actual access to the
documents is also being heavily

2064
02:09:11,250 --> 02:09:14,910
redacted and filtered into Matt
Taibbi and Barry Weiss and

2065
02:09:14,910 --> 02:09:17,700
others who are reporting on
Twitter. We're just getting a

2066
02:09:18,000 --> 02:09:22,050
little bit a little bit of what
really was going on there. And

2067
02:09:22,080 --> 02:09:25,890
it already is quite astonishing.
What was going on that we know

2068
02:09:25,890 --> 02:09:26,340
about.

2069
02:09:27,060 --> 02:09:29,610
Unknown: And I wouldn't even go
as far as saying it has to be

2070
02:09:29,610 --> 02:09:33,570
known people. If we go back to
the show about the Popeyes

2071
02:09:33,570 --> 02:09:38,790
chicken sandwich. They took
unknown people, right? amplify

2072
02:09:38,790 --> 02:09:42,960
the story. Yep. nudge the hell
out of people. And then you have

2073
02:09:43,350 --> 02:09:47,130
groups of people lined up around
the corner buying a chicken

2074
02:09:47,130 --> 02:09:51,090
sandwich, just off of a news
story that they created out of

2075
02:09:51,090 --> 02:09:53,040
thin air by amplifying tweets.

2076
02:09:53,070 --> 02:09:54,090
Adam Curry: It's called PR.

2077
02:09:55,290 --> 02:09:57,930
Unknown: Right? I'm saying
that's the desk that they don't

2078
02:09:57,930 --> 02:10:01,290
even have the hand of stories in
Even more, because you have so

2079
02:10:01,290 --> 02:10:05,700
many opinions in the ocean that
is Twitter, that you can just

2080
02:10:05,700 --> 02:10:08,820
pluck it out and say, Okay, this
is when we want to amplify, and

2081
02:10:08,820 --> 02:10:12,630
okay, we'll put, you know, we'll
put the machine behind it, and

2082
02:10:12,630 --> 02:10:16,290
it will get people talking. All
that has to be as a binary. You

2083
02:10:16,290 --> 02:10:18,900
know, you see these stupid quick
story like, do you wash your

2084
02:10:18,900 --> 02:10:23,250
legs? Do you wash the backside
of your plate? I think these are

2085
02:10:23,280 --> 02:10:28,680
all tests this the, you know,
can't is our it's like a stress

2086
02:10:28,680 --> 02:10:31,650
test or a to see how machines
are working?

2087
02:10:31,679 --> 02:10:34,769
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. Right. And
if you read the Twitter files,

2088
02:10:34,769 --> 02:10:37,499
you'll see that there's just as
much talk of suppression as

2089
02:10:37,499 --> 02:10:38,819
there is of amplification.

2090
02:10:39,840 --> 02:10:42,690
Unknown: Correct. And that's why
I think that's why I call it

2091
02:10:42,690 --> 02:10:45,990
micro Mockingbird because you
don't need all these established

2092
02:10:47,460 --> 02:10:51,840
agents anymore. And assets. We
could take anybody and they're

2093
02:10:51,840 --> 02:10:55,500
so happy to be viral. They don't
have to ask me questions, you

2094
02:10:55,500 --> 02:10:59,250
know. And that's kind of how
Candice came about, if you think

2095
02:10:59,250 --> 02:11:03,150
about it, because she made the
I'm walking away, or a black

2096
02:11:03,150 --> 02:11:07,080
suit or a black black person is
no longer gonna be a Democrat.

2097
02:11:07,260 --> 02:11:11,940
And they were like, yes, no fire
interesting and fired up. And

2098
02:11:11,940 --> 02:11:14,790
they put all the resources
behind her. So thank you for

2099
02:11:14,790 --> 02:11:18,780
your explanation of Mockingbird,
we can go and get into 23. And

2100
02:11:18,780 --> 02:11:22,410
it is just further about what
you just explain.

2101
02:11:22,590 --> 02:11:25,710
So I feel pretty comfortable
stating that if the entire

2102
02:11:25,710 --> 02:11:30,060
mainstream media network is for
or against something, you should

2103
02:11:30,060 --> 02:11:33,510
probably edit your opinions to
be the opposite of what theirs

2104
02:11:33,510 --> 02:11:37,680
is because it's pretty clear
that they don't act.

2105
02:11:38,160 --> 02:11:44,580
Adam Curry: Wait. What she said
is the entire mainstream is

2106
02:11:44,580 --> 02:11:46,890
doing one thing you should do
the opposite. Is that what she

2107
02:11:46,890 --> 02:11:47,070
said?

2108
02:11:47,069 --> 02:11:50,129
Unknown: But then then the
entire man? Did we just hear

2109
02:11:50,879 --> 02:11:54,959
from the heel, the entire
mainstream got behind? No, it

2110
02:11:54,959 --> 02:11:58,049
wasn't a heel, it was on Alex
Jones set of clips that the

2111
02:11:58,049 --> 02:12:00,749
entire mainstream got behind
daily wire.

2112
02:12:01,770 --> 02:12:03,930
Adam Curry: Yes. Isn't that
interesting?

2113
02:12:06,180 --> 02:12:06,900
Unknown: Let's get to you,

2114
02:12:06,960 --> 02:12:10,530
you should probably edit your
opinions to be the opposite of

2115
02:12:10,530 --> 02:12:14,940
what theirs is because it's
pretty clear that they don't

2116
02:12:14,940 --> 02:12:18,240
actually have any individual
opinions. These journalists,

2117
02:12:18,240 --> 02:12:21,480
right. They're always in
lockstep on various narratives.

2118
02:12:21,630 --> 02:12:25,980
So yeah, it does sound like they
are a bunch of mockingbirds,

2119
02:12:25,980 --> 02:12:30,960
which is appropriate, of course,
because that was the CIA program

2120
02:12:30,960 --> 02:12:34,140
title. It was called Operation
Mockingbird, you are not a

2121
02:12:34,140 --> 02:12:38,610
conspiracy theorist for knowing
the truth. And you are correct.

2122
02:12:38,910 --> 02:12:42,000
If you know about the
mockingbird being something that

2123
02:12:42,000 --> 02:12:43,920
the CIA has never discontinued.

2124
02:12:46,410 --> 02:12:49,530
Yeah, they never discontinued
it. Hmm. No, of course not.

2125
02:12:49,590 --> 02:12:54,810
Sorry. All work for big tech.
And big tech get from it. 2020

2126
02:12:54,810 --> 02:13:03,600
leaks that they take their
marching orders from alphabet

2127
02:13:03,810 --> 02:13:08,730
letter agencies. You know, three
letter agencies? Yeah. So they

2128
02:13:08,730 --> 02:13:11,490
directly or indirectly work for

2129
02:13:12,090 --> 02:13:14,640
Adam Curry: the government for
the government? Well, and let's

2130
02:13:14,640 --> 02:13:19,500
just let's make it very clear.
CIA runs the whole show. CIA is

2131
02:13:19,500 --> 02:13:23,190
very careful. They control the
FBI. The CIA runs the

2132
02:13:23,190 --> 02:13:26,010
President's except for Trump.
That was probably the Defense

2133
02:13:26,010 --> 02:13:31,020
Intelligence Agency. Everyone's
very afraid in, in Washington of

2134
02:13:31,020 --> 02:13:34,410
the CIA, they're out of control.
There's no oversight. No one

2135
02:13:34,410 --> 02:13:38,400
knows how much money they have.
No one knows what they do. And

2136
02:13:39,150 --> 02:13:44,070
they run the show, they run the
entire show. In my opinion,

2137
02:13:44,669 --> 02:13:49,379
Unknown: I believe you're
correct on that. But I just find

2138
02:13:49,379 --> 02:13:54,329
it interesting that she made
this show prior to the release

2139
02:13:54,329 --> 02:14:03,059
of what was going on. And even.
It's, it's crazy that even to

2140
02:14:03,059 --> 02:14:07,169
bring up Operation Mockingbird
or or plague, paperclip or

2141
02:14:07,169 --> 02:14:10,979
whatever, whatever operation
used to be. You can't say that

2142
02:14:11,009 --> 02:14:16,319
or you become a tinfoil hat wear
now is, it's okay to bring it

2143
02:14:16,319 --> 02:14:20,159
up. You know, it's okay for
Tucker to talk about it for her

2144
02:14:20,159 --> 02:14:24,029
to talk about it, and still be
taken as a serious journalist.

2145
02:14:24,270 --> 02:14:27,450
Adam Curry: Ah, and that's what
I mean by limited hangout.

2146
02:14:27,990 --> 02:14:28,620
There.

2147
02:14:28,620 --> 02:14:29,940
Unknown: I get what you're
saying. Yeah.

2148
02:14:30,060 --> 02:14:33,360
Adam Curry: I mean, this is this
is what makes it work. This is

2149
02:14:33,360 --> 02:14:36,840
that perfect, perfect
combination of put something out

2150
02:14:36,840 --> 02:14:39,840
that people go oh, yeah. Wow.
Yeah. Right on. And then that's

2151
02:14:39,840 --> 02:14:41,580
all you need. That's all you
need.

2152
02:14:42,840 --> 02:14:44,760
Unknown: The only thing I'm
pushing back against is not

2153
02:14:44,760 --> 02:14:48,240
against you to Fox, if you're
listening. It's not working. It

2154
02:14:48,240 --> 02:14:52,350
only makes you a little worse.
If the desired effect is doing

2155
02:14:52,350 --> 02:14:53,010
the opposite,

2156
02:14:53,340 --> 02:14:56,850
Adam Curry: right? Because now
the numbers are killing it.

2157
02:14:57,150 --> 02:15:01,440
That's ultimately that's all
they care about. The ratings I

2158
02:15:01,440 --> 02:15:04,860
get feeling it but yes, I agree
that in the long run and long

2159
02:15:04,860 --> 02:15:06,510
run, they'll lose. I believe
that too.

2160
02:15:07,710 --> 02:15:10,140
Unknown: Yeah, cuz this is makes
it like the other 23 hours where

2161
02:15:10,140 --> 02:15:14,940
for news like, oh, and it makes
it stick out like a sore thumb

2162
02:15:14,940 --> 02:15:19,200
with your analysis of being a
limited hangout. It's like it

2163
02:15:19,200 --> 02:15:22,770
has to be. Because if it was
business related, like, oh, we

2164
02:15:22,770 --> 02:15:24,480
need more Tucker's you know, we

2165
02:15:24,479 --> 02:15:27,449
Adam Curry: need to get this
whole Blockly. Exactly. For

2166
02:15:27,449 --> 02:15:27,899
seven

2167
02:15:27,900 --> 02:15:31,410
Unknown: to 10 with more Tucker
like thought process or thought

2168
02:15:31,410 --> 02:15:31,800
like

2169
02:15:34,080 --> 02:15:37,230
Adam Curry: thinkers like the
school of thought. Yes. People?

2170
02:15:37,230 --> 02:15:40,620
Yes. Your ad that proves it
right there. Absolutely.

2171
02:15:41,550 --> 02:15:45,390
Unknown: So I'm with you on that
one. But they, they don't

2172
02:15:45,420 --> 02:15:48,360
understand this, just like they
came up with the term fake news.

2173
02:15:48,720 --> 02:15:51,900
And they didn't, not them, but
the mainstream media. And I

2174
02:15:51,900 --> 02:15:54,090
don't think they understood how
people were going to take that

2175
02:15:54,090 --> 02:15:57,780
and weaponize it back against
them. Your it was that you're

2176
02:15:57,780 --> 02:16:00,630
dealing with a smarter audience.
Now it was I don't think they

2177
02:16:00,630 --> 02:16:01,380
realized that.

2178
02:16:01,469 --> 02:16:04,829
Adam Curry: Well, I think Trump
Trump caught that from them. And

2179
02:16:04,829 --> 02:16:07,439
he's the one that turned he
didn't invent the fake news. He

2180
02:16:07,439 --> 02:16:09,779
turned it around and use it as a
weapon against them.

2181
02:16:10,050 --> 02:16:12,120
Unknown: This was saying the
mainstream media invented it.

2182
02:16:12,150 --> 02:16:15,030
It's the same thing. It's like
they invent these things. They

2183
02:16:15,030 --> 02:16:18,480
don't understand how memes work.
You know, like a fat check like,

2184
02:16:18,480 --> 02:16:22,140
man, if you fat check something.
That's a that's a roundabout way

2185
02:16:22,140 --> 02:16:22,950
of saying is true.

2186
02:16:23,069 --> 02:16:25,619
Adam Curry: Yeah, yes, pretty
much and people all know that

2187
02:16:25,619 --> 02:16:26,369
it's bullcrap.

2188
02:16:27,059 --> 02:16:30,179
Unknown: Correct. So let's go
ahead and get into the second

2189
02:16:30,179 --> 02:16:31,859
part of this Operation
Mockingbird.

2190
02:16:32,009 --> 02:16:35,789
First and foremost, in case you
are not aware of what Operation

2191
02:16:35,789 --> 02:16:40,259
Mockingbird was, and still is,
it was a large scale project

2192
02:16:40,259 --> 02:16:44,579
undertaken by the CIA, beginning
in the 1950s, in which they

2193
02:16:44,579 --> 02:16:49,169
recruited American journalists
into a propaganda network. The

2194
02:16:49,169 --> 02:16:52,559
recruited journalists were put
on payroll by the CIA, which

2195
02:16:52,559 --> 02:16:56,189
means me and you, we paid for
that, and instructed to write

2196
02:16:56,219 --> 02:16:59,819
fake stories that promoted the
views of the intelligence

2197
02:16:59,819 --> 02:17:03,989
agencies. So some journalists
were assets to the CIA and were

2198
02:17:03,989 --> 02:17:07,859
on the payroll. Other
journalists were unsuspecting

2199
02:17:07,859 --> 02:17:11,819
assets of the CIA, because they
thought that they had a leak

2200
02:17:11,819 --> 02:17:15,149
that they were being given
information. And they ran with

2201
02:17:15,149 --> 02:17:17,909
the stories because they thought
they were being told the truth,

2202
02:17:18,300 --> 02:17:21,000
Adam Curry: right, ever since
Donald Trump was president,

2203
02:17:21,000 --> 02:17:23,790
we've heard sources say sources
familiar with the President's

2204
02:17:23,790 --> 02:17:27,120
thinking sources who are in the
know, that's your intelligence,

2205
02:17:27,120 --> 02:17:27,810
right? Their

2206
02:17:29,519 --> 02:17:31,109
Unknown: Sources close to the
matter, closest

2207
02:17:31,380 --> 02:17:34,080
Adam Curry: sources I like, I
like the sources familiar with

2208
02:17:34,080 --> 02:17:36,030
the President's thinking, that's
always my fair.

2209
02:17:37,830 --> 02:17:41,040
Unknown: What it like, like I
say, I'm just laying this out,

2210
02:17:41,070 --> 02:17:44,880
in her own words. Now, if you
look through the lands that

2211
02:17:44,880 --> 02:17:49,140
she's creating, at what
transpired between Daley wire

2212
02:17:49,170 --> 02:17:57,240
and Crowder, it makes them look
like agents.

2213
02:17:57,660 --> 02:17:59,280
Adam Curry: Yes, five by five.

2214
02:18:00,810 --> 02:18:04,350
Unknown: And I think they have
to, I think they realized that

2215
02:18:04,380 --> 02:18:06,660
and that's why she had to come
out. So those A B move, and it's

2216
02:18:06,660 --> 02:18:09,150
about the money it was about
always about the money. Do you

2217
02:18:09,150 --> 02:18:12,240
want it $120 million? And you
know, it's, it's about the

2218
02:18:12,240 --> 02:18:16,530
money? Oh, is that your and I
just had to reiterate this

2219
02:18:16,530 --> 02:18:23,070
point. You work for the
government. That whole operation

2220
02:18:23,070 --> 02:18:27,390
is for the IRS, maybe
indirectly, but you work for the

2221
02:18:27,390 --> 02:18:31,110
government, there's like it was
okay. You had to get the okay

2222
02:18:31,110 --> 02:18:36,330
signal to start questioning,
questioning the jab. Now, they

2223
02:18:36,330 --> 02:18:39,180
had to get bit they had to look
both ways. It's like okay, now

2224
02:18:39,180 --> 02:18:42,900
we can start questioning Fauci.
You will you all in for it. When

2225
02:18:42,900 --> 02:18:46,710
I say you daily wire as an
operation, we're all in on for

2226
02:18:46,710 --> 02:18:50,820
the jab, you're gonna kill
Grandma, you know that that was

2227
02:18:50,820 --> 02:18:53,190
there, you know that we're using
those kind of talking points.

2228
02:18:53,370 --> 02:18:57,630
But then it's like, okay, we
need to pivot. And this is this

2229
02:18:57,630 --> 02:19:01,560
is this is white supremacy,
taking both sides the argument

2230
02:19:02,190 --> 02:19:06,060
or all sides of the argument,
you know, to the point where if

2231
02:19:06,060 --> 02:19:09,180
you're this is the problem with
binary because you bought into

2232
02:19:09,180 --> 02:19:13,350
the binary itself. You're,
you're taking the bait? Yeah.

2233
02:19:14,610 --> 02:19:17,850
Don't buy it. Look, look for
that. That's kind of what we try

2234
02:19:17,850 --> 02:19:21,300
to do here is the shades of
grey. We're not on Team Crowder,

2235
02:19:21,420 --> 02:19:26,040
or I'm Team daily wire, you
know, no, it's a far bigger

2236
02:19:26,040 --> 02:19:29,400
narrative that we need to be
looking at other than just like

2237
02:19:29,400 --> 02:19:36,060
snow conservative beef, right.
All right. So this is all

2238
02:19:36,060 --> 02:19:40,590
documentary. And this is how the
media are used by the CIA to

2239
02:19:40,590 --> 02:19:44,520
manipulate public opinion. Last,
I was gonna be public public

2240
02:19:44,520 --> 02:19:49,680
opinion, lies, disinformation,
and covert actions. So this is a

2241
02:19:49,680 --> 02:19:53,730
former agent. He's going to like
just give us more how the

2242
02:19:53,730 --> 02:19:56,250
sausage is made. We don't have
to listen to all of them. I

2243
02:19:56,250 --> 02:20:00,180
thought it was just interesting
to hear it from the court. his

2244
02:20:00,180 --> 02:20:00,690
mouth,

2245
02:20:01,260 --> 02:20:05,550
I sent over a paper to the State
Department for the press Rep The

2246
02:20:05,550 --> 02:20:08,910
Huddinge. Carter, you know, the
guy that speaks out every day on

2247
02:20:08,910 --> 02:20:12,840
world events to read, and I had
four paragraphs and it because

2248
02:20:12,840 --> 02:20:15,930
the situation was changing that
night. And I said, you know,

2249
02:20:15,960 --> 02:20:18,270
with a no call us before you go
on the air in the morning, I'll

2250
02:20:18,270 --> 02:20:20,910
tell you which paragraph to
read. And they were all for

2251
02:20:20,910 --> 02:20:25,170
totally false. And make as a
matter of fact, they called in

2252
02:20:25,170 --> 02:20:27,150
the morning and I said, you
know, paragraph three, and they

2253
02:20:27,150 --> 02:20:30,090
read paragraph three and, and
went with it, you know, which is

2254
02:20:30,120 --> 02:20:33,210
utter complicity in putting out
the propaganda, the

2255
02:20:33,210 --> 02:20:36,090
disinformation. So that was the
CIA giving information to the

2256
02:20:36,090 --> 02:20:36,300
State

2257
02:20:36,300 --> 02:20:38,370
Department to put out on our
media.

2258
02:20:39,120 --> 02:20:42,090
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah, this is
this is very important that I

2259
02:20:42,090 --> 02:20:46,140
liked these clips. So the State
Department is very important,

2260
02:20:46,140 --> 02:20:49,980
because they are they have
around the world embassies. So

2261
02:20:50,370 --> 02:20:53,640
you will find that most people
who work at an embassy are in

2262
02:20:53,640 --> 02:20:57,090
fact assets. They are
intelligence agents. The State

2263
02:20:57,090 --> 02:21:01,470
Department has their own
intelligence agency, which is

2264
02:21:01,500 --> 02:21:05,310
small but very effective. I
think Hillary Clinton last man

2265
02:21:05,310 --> 02:21:09,900
is that very well. So it's
basically if you look at all of

2266
02:21:09,900 --> 02:21:15,330
it, there's what's 1516
intelligence agencies, also

2267
02:21:15,330 --> 02:21:19,650
known as the IC, the
intelligence community. This is

2268
02:21:19,650 --> 02:21:24,060
this is what they do. Now.
There's not a lot of jumping out

2269
02:21:24,060 --> 02:21:28,350
of airplanes and, and spying
anymore listening through walls.

2270
02:21:28,350 --> 02:21:32,010
I'm sure it happens. But this is
really what they do is drive the

2271
02:21:32,010 --> 02:21:35,850
message in court. This is also
when President John F. Kennedy

2272
02:21:35,850 --> 02:21:38,880
said, you know, hey, we got
secret societies. He was talking

2273
02:21:38,880 --> 02:21:42,810
about the intelligence
apparatus, and they killed him

2274
02:21:42,810 --> 02:21:43,140
over

2275
02:21:43,440 --> 02:21:48,000
Unknown: the CIA has assaulted
agents throughout the Congress.

2276
02:21:48,360 --> 02:21:53,280
Every committee done this, you
know, did it three decades ago?

2277
02:21:53,430 --> 02:21:55,380
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. This is
the Senate Intelligence

2278
02:21:55,380 --> 02:21:57,420
Oversight Committee, all spooks.

2279
02:21:57,960 --> 02:22:00,630
Unknown: And we're seeing it
once again, but it's standard.

2280
02:22:01,140 --> 02:22:06,030
But we did have in November of
75, we had the CIA director,

2281
02:22:06,030 --> 02:22:09,480
Bill Colby, who had been putting
out our, our propaganda line to

2282
02:22:09,480 --> 02:22:14,370
the Senate in our our lives, was
tied up on a trip or something.

2283
02:22:14,640 --> 02:22:19,020
And so Bill Nelson, the Deputy
Director of Operations went over

2284
02:22:19,020 --> 02:22:23,280
to stand in for him. And he said
before he went, I'm not going to

2285
02:22:23,280 --> 02:22:27,240
lie. And he'd just flat said it
in a staff meeting. He said, I'm

2286
02:22:27,240 --> 02:22:29,910
retiring in three weeks and I'll
be damned if I'm going to spend

2287
02:22:29,910 --> 02:22:34,080
my retirement answering perjury
charges. So he went over there

2288
02:22:34,410 --> 02:22:38,940
and told the truth. Now
ambassador, Mulcahy said one

2289
02:22:38,940 --> 02:22:43,380
thing. And then Nelson testified
and said exactly the opposite.

2290
02:22:43,710 --> 02:22:47,340
And so they had a direct head
and head contradiction. And so

2291
02:22:47,340 --> 02:22:51,780
the senators nailed Mulcahy, one
of you gentleman is lying. And

2292
02:22:51,780 --> 02:22:54,870
some okay asked for the
opportunity to speak again and

2293
02:22:54,870 --> 02:22:58,860
which he clarified his state and
told the truth. But the

2294
02:22:58,860 --> 02:23:02,670
interesting thing was that that
testimony refuted everything

2295
02:23:02,670 --> 02:23:05,640
else. We've been saying for
three months. They did not

2296
02:23:05,640 --> 02:23:10,050
investigate and follow up on it
and indict. Especially bill

2297
02:23:10,050 --> 02:23:12,990
called me for perjury, which
they could have on the basis of

2298
02:23:12,990 --> 02:23:15,030
that, and they just let it you
know, let it go. There was no

2299
02:23:15,030 --> 02:23:15,780
follow up to it.

2300
02:23:16,560 --> 02:23:22,650
Adam Curry: Yes. And the reason
for that is the pure fright most

2301
02:23:22,650 --> 02:23:29,880
people in Washington have. For
the intelligence agencies, you

2302
02:23:29,880 --> 02:23:36,360
recall, and I see if I can find
it. Chuck Schumer. I don't think

2303
02:23:36,360 --> 02:23:41,280
I have this. He was on a Rachel
Maddow Show. And he was saying

2304
02:23:41,820 --> 02:23:44,910
to Sunday, that's right. He was
saying how stupid how stupid

2305
02:23:44,910 --> 02:23:50,040
Tria Trump was to go against the
intelligence agencies because

2306
02:23:50,070 --> 02:23:52,770
you know, they have six ways to
Sunday to get back at you.

2307
02:23:52,920 --> 02:23:54,900
Because Schumer knows it was
brilliant moment.

2308
02:23:55,050 --> 02:23:58,710
Unknown: The emphasis of this
documentary is about the CIA in

2309
02:23:58,710 --> 02:24:01,800
the media. But there is a larger
framework in this to which we

2310
02:24:01,800 --> 02:24:05,490
talked about in our program,
from time to time, that is the

2311
02:24:06,180 --> 02:24:12,090
overall line of the State
Department, the White House, is

2312
02:24:12,090 --> 02:24:16,410
this a coordinated thing? Or do
all these organizations just do

2313
02:24:16,410 --> 02:24:19,140
their lying separately, and it
adds up to one big falsehood,

2314
02:24:19,350 --> 02:24:24,000
read Noam Chomsky is turning the
turning the tide to get a

2315
02:24:24,000 --> 02:24:27,420
feeling for for the way our, you
know, it's what they call the

2316
02:24:27,420 --> 02:24:31,350
establishment in the 60s, the
way they are committed. The

2317
02:24:31,350 --> 02:24:33,900
elites that run the country,
which includes the State

2318
02:24:33,900 --> 02:24:37,920
Department and the CI and
presidents and politicians. They

2319
02:24:37,920 --> 02:24:41,310
have a charter, you know, to run
the country in their interest.

2320
02:24:41,910 --> 02:24:47,550
And this means that they they
are not exactly lockstep, but

2321
02:24:47,550 --> 02:24:51,960
they just presume to have the
right to mislead people. It's

2322
02:24:51,960 --> 02:24:54,960
part of the way the United
States is and God knows most

2323
02:24:54,960 --> 02:24:59,970
other countries as well. They
are not bound by honesty and

2324
02:25:00,000 --> 02:25:00,810
integrity.

2325
02:25:01,710 --> 02:25:05,340
Adam Curry: And this is I think
this this showed up on YouTube

2326
02:25:05,340 --> 02:25:09,750
not too long ago. It's a 1983
interview is agent and I'll put

2327
02:25:09,750 --> 02:25:11,970
that link for the full
interview. We have most of it

2328
02:25:11,970 --> 02:25:14,880
here, but put that in, in the
show notes. And let's just

2329
02:25:14,880 --> 02:25:17,370
listen. Okay, last one, since
I'm digging this, I like hearing

2330
02:25:17,370 --> 02:25:17,790
this.

2331
02:25:18,000 --> 02:25:20,490
Unknown: Their whole ethic is
they're doing illegal things.

2332
02:25:20,490 --> 02:25:22,440
And they're, you know, they
teach you from the first day in

2333
02:25:22,440 --> 02:25:26,700
training cover stories. And you
practice them at length, and the

2334
02:25:26,700 --> 02:25:29,760
director practices them and when
he briefs the Congress, he does

2335
02:25:29,760 --> 02:25:33,390
the cover stories. Now, White
House staffers are not trained

2336
02:25:33,390 --> 02:25:37,050
professionally. But they're,
it's in the ethics of politics,

2337
02:25:37,200 --> 02:25:41,730
ethics of the business. They're
putting out a myth about the

2338
02:25:41,730 --> 02:25:47,790
world a myth about the United
States nature. Chomsky notes

2339
02:25:47,790 --> 02:25:51,690
that the compelling force, the
ethic against which all foreign

2340
02:25:51,690 --> 02:25:55,680
policy decisions are made, is
defense of the fifth freedom.

2341
02:25:56,790 --> 02:25:59,850
You know, the four freedoms were
Roosevelt and Churchill and

2342
02:25:59,850 --> 02:26:03,450
January of 41, we were fighting
the war for the freedom of

2343
02:26:03,450 --> 02:26:07,680
speech, freedom of religion,
freedom from want freedom from

2344
02:26:07,680 --> 02:26:11,430
fear. And the fifth freedom is
what you know, is compelled our

2345
02:26:11,430 --> 02:26:15,900
actions in reality, then in
every sense, and that's the

2346
02:26:15,900 --> 02:26:21,180
United States freedom to rob,
exploit and kill. And every you

2347
02:26:21,180 --> 02:26:24,840
know, every situation is
measured by our right or

2348
02:26:25,260 --> 02:26:27,630
imperial design. Stop,

2349
02:26:27,630 --> 02:26:31,560
stop, stop, stop, stop, stop,
stop, stop. I want you to rewind

2350
02:26:31,560 --> 02:26:35,040
it back, maybe 10 seconds. And
when he says the fifth freedom,

2351
02:26:35,430 --> 02:26:42,180
listen to the coal laughter Here
we go.

2352
02:26:43,050 --> 02:26:46,110
You know, the four freedoms were
Roosevelt and Churchill and

2353
02:26:46,110 --> 02:26:49,710
January of 41, we were fighting
the war for the freedom of

2354
02:26:49,710 --> 02:26:53,940
speech, freedom of religion,
freedom from want freedom from

2355
02:26:53,940 --> 02:26:57,690
fear. And the fifth freedom is
what you know, is compelled our

2356
02:26:57,690 --> 02:27:02,160
actions in reality, then in
every sense, and that's the

2357
02:27:02,160 --> 02:27:07,440
United States freedom to rob
exploit and kill. And every you

2358
02:27:07,440 --> 02:27:11,100
know, every situation is
measured by our right. Our

2359
02:27:11,520 --> 02:27:14,310
Imperial right. It's not a
divine right, but our Imperial

2360
02:27:14,310 --> 02:27:14,730
right.

2361
02:27:15,510 --> 02:27:21,000
Yep. Did you deny me? He was
like, Yeah, that's true. Yeah,

2362
02:27:21,000 --> 02:27:23,970
we do. We do kill like a mug.
Yeah. Well, like,

2363
02:27:24,030 --> 02:27:27,330
Adam Curry: just look at our
lifetimes. Mo. If you're Brown,

2364
02:27:27,330 --> 02:27:31,530
and you live in a sandy area,
Jared, you're in trouble. You

2365
02:27:31,530 --> 02:27:31,800
know,

2366
02:27:32,040 --> 02:27:35,100
Unknown: they tell me I'm crazy.
When I use the term white

2367
02:27:35,100 --> 02:27:39,510
supremacy, when they throw
around terms like establishment

2368
02:27:39,840 --> 02:27:44,520
imperialism, same thing. That's,
that's the same as that theme.

2369
02:27:44,520 --> 02:27:50,640
The only problem is, those are
like off whimsical names, you

2370
02:27:50,640 --> 02:27:55,530
know, that doesn't really give
you any identifier. You know,

2371
02:27:55,530 --> 02:27:59,220
just like, Oh, yes, the Empire?
Well, you know, just the Empire

2372
02:27:59,220 --> 02:28:01,560
would just kill him like we
normally do. But how

2373
02:28:01,560 --> 02:28:03,360
Adam Curry: about this for a
thought, you know, the whole

2374
02:28:03,360 --> 02:28:08,190
reason behind the acceleration
and amplification of racial

2375
02:28:08,190 --> 02:28:12,480
division, specifically, white
black, is for this reason, so

2376
02:28:12,480 --> 02:28:15,810
that you can't expose the white
supremacy.

2377
02:28:17,400 --> 02:28:20,760
Unknown: They definitely they're
hiding in plain sight and that

2378
02:28:20,760 --> 02:28:24,270
they're, they're pushing the
orange people out there to be

2379
02:28:24,270 --> 02:28:26,910
the face of white supremacy by
Oh, yeah, that's that's the

2380
02:28:26,940 --> 02:28:30,120
that's the white supremacy, but
at the same time, using their

2381
02:28:32,010 --> 02:28:38,010
tactics and power to treat them
like people of color. Correct.

2382
02:28:38,040 --> 02:28:41,250
There's their stripping away.
This is why I say a privilege is

2383
02:28:41,250 --> 02:28:46,650
given to you. And only whites,
the premises can give that

2384
02:28:46,650 --> 02:28:51,180
privilege. They have supremacy
that they don't need privilege.

2385
02:28:52,050 --> 02:28:54,780
Oh, we can just like that last
that. laughs

2386
02:28:54,810 --> 02:28:56,610
Adam Curry: Yeah. It's cold.

2387
02:28:56,640 --> 02:29:00,000
Unknown: It's cold is yes. Yes,
we kill We lie. And notice the

2388
02:29:00,000 --> 02:29:04,230
four freedoms that they were
talking about before, is exactly

2389
02:29:04,230 --> 02:29:07,320
what's under attack right now.
Yeah, their freedom of religion,

2390
02:29:07,320 --> 02:29:10,860
the freedom of speech, the
freedom of lack of fear, to live

2391
02:29:10,860 --> 02:29:13,890
without fear. Now, you need to
be afraid all the time. You need

2392
02:29:13,890 --> 02:29:16,830
to watch what you say. You're
saying don't be vocal about what

2393
02:29:16,830 --> 02:29:19,350
you believe. And I forgot what
the I think the last love a

2394
02:29:19,350 --> 02:29:23,070
freedom. A won't know you need
to be dependent on the

2395
02:29:23,070 --> 02:29:26,490
government. Yeah. And we're and
we're going to use the fifth

2396
02:29:26,490 --> 02:29:32,070
freedom, Timothy, for sure. You
know, we manipulate those four

2397
02:29:32,100 --> 02:29:33,150
first four freedoms.

2398
02:29:33,749 --> 02:29:37,109
Adam Curry: We will look at
Afghanistan, look at Ukraine,

2399
02:29:37,799 --> 02:29:42,659
look at Taiwan will be next. And
this benefit. Go ahead.

2400
02:29:42,720 --> 02:29:44,970
Unknown: Look at the
neighborhoods that Soros is

2401
02:29:44,970 --> 02:29:50,700
destroying with agents. Those
criminals are agents of sorrows.

2402
02:29:50,730 --> 02:29:54,630
I don't care what you say. him
getting them out of jail. And

2403
02:29:54,630 --> 02:29:59,400
they they're running like
they're running know these

2404
02:29:59,400 --> 02:30:03,000
neighborhoods. In beatin old
people and robbing stores and

2405
02:30:03,000 --> 02:30:06,870
everything else that they're
given white privilege to these

2406
02:30:06,870 --> 02:30:10,860
criminals Yep, like yes that
fear freedom yeah we're gonna

2407
02:30:10,860 --> 02:30:14,220
get your criminal criminals
privileged to exercise that fear

2408
02:30:14,220 --> 02:30:18,750
freedom on who it doesn't matter
to people close to proximity the

2409
02:30:18,750 --> 02:30:24,480
rest right allows you to create
the fear and the wall and they

2410
02:30:24,480 --> 02:30:30,600
better not say anything you know
this this this is why I do what

2411
02:30:30,600 --> 02:30:35,400
I do because when you have a
view, Neely Fuller said if you

2412
02:30:35,400 --> 02:30:40,560
don't understand white supremacy
and how it works everything else

2413
02:30:40,560 --> 02:30:50,040
will confuse you. Yes, fusion
and chaos is the goal is just

2414
02:30:50,490 --> 02:30:53,910
the lat that I you know what I
that's the first time I heard

2415
02:30:53,910 --> 02:30:56,670
that laugh as many times I
listen to the clip clipping it

2416
02:30:57,270 --> 02:31:01,080
and put it that laugh. Like
yeah, this is what we do. Yeah,

2417
02:31:01,080 --> 02:31:07,530
like that's troubling to me.
That's troubling but that was

2418
02:31:07,530 --> 02:31:11,760
back in the day. I think you
said 1983 83 Yeah. Tucker

2419
02:31:11,760 --> 02:31:16,980
Carlson he's gonna get in the
way he does and like I'm glad

2420
02:31:16,980 --> 02:31:20,130
they're saying that out in
public cuz it get allows us to

2421
02:31:20,130 --> 02:31:24,420
clip it and break it down and
analyze it well when this is how

2422
02:31:24,420 --> 02:31:24,840
it works.

2423
02:31:25,350 --> 02:31:28,380
Adam Curry: I was just gonna say
so this is Tucker is perfect for

2424
02:31:28,380 --> 02:31:35,220
this role. Cuz he I listened to
CNN, MSNBC, NBC, ABC, CBS all

2425
02:31:35,220 --> 02:31:40,140
the time. And usually in the car
because of the Sirius XM so I

2426
02:31:40,140 --> 02:31:45,300
can hear the cable news as well.
And to the tee, every single

2427
02:31:45,780 --> 02:31:52,200
show our email burn, Joy read
all of them. Erin Burnett on

2428
02:31:52,200 --> 02:31:57,690
CNN, Anderson Cooper CIA asset.
They're all playing little

2429
02:31:57,690 --> 02:32:03,180
clips, little clips of intros to
the stories that come from

2430
02:32:03,180 --> 02:32:06,420
Twitter. And they're just
saying, Wow, they've gone so

2431
02:32:06,420 --> 02:32:09,240
nuts over there at five Tucker
Carlson has gone completely

2432
02:32:09,240 --> 02:32:13,440
nuts. He thinks the FBI was
running Twitter. Oh, no. Listen

2433
02:32:13,440 --> 02:32:16,080
to this stupid conspiracy
theory. So they completely

2434
02:32:16,080 --> 02:32:21,150
steal. They use this to steer
everyone away. Because that's

2435
02:32:21,150 --> 02:32:24,960
just not job Tucker Carlson.
That's just you know, Tucker

2436
02:32:24,960 --> 02:32:28,080
Carlson doesn't even believe and
Trump has to text messages,

2437
02:32:28,080 --> 02:32:33,630
which of course is very nuanced.
So it is the perfect the perfect

2438
02:32:33,630 --> 02:32:38,370
opportunity to distract everyone
into believing that this is just

2439
02:32:38,370 --> 02:32:44,310
another fake news conspiracy
theory from from Fox News and

2440
02:32:44,310 --> 02:32:48,810
conservative media that Twitter
was running or that the FBI was

2441
02:32:48,810 --> 02:32:58,680
running Twitter, by the way.
Time magazine 2010. Mark

2442
02:32:58,680 --> 02:33:02,700
Zuckerberg man of the year that
we talked about this, I'm sure

2443
02:33:02,700 --> 02:33:03,270
we've talked about

2444
02:33:03,270 --> 02:33:05,160
Unknown: this before. No, I
don't think we have Okay,

2445
02:33:05,190 --> 02:33:09,180
Adam Curry: I'm gonna. I've
talked about it so much that you

2446
02:33:09,180 --> 02:33:17,730
see 2010 Man of the Year, Mark
Zuckerberg, Time Magazine, he's

2447
02:33:17,790 --> 02:33:21,480
in the interview itself. It's
printed. You can I'll put the

2448
02:33:21,480 --> 02:33:26,310
link in the show notes.
Zuckerberg is talking to Time

2449
02:33:26,310 --> 02:33:30,180
Magazine doing an interview and
then it says all of a sudden,

2450
02:33:30,660 --> 02:33:31,260
and

2451
02:33:31,680 --> 02:33:35,010
Unknown: oh, yeah, okay. Yeah,
yeah. Okay. So the clip, but I

2452
02:33:35,010 --> 02:33:35,310
wish

2453
02:33:35,310 --> 02:33:37,650
Adam Curry: I wish it were a
clip all of a sudden, man man

2454
02:33:37,650 --> 02:33:40,230
puts it in, you know, sticks his
face in the door. Hey, you know,

2455
02:33:40,230 --> 02:33:42,930
I was just downstairs in my
office in the building. Just

2456
02:33:42,930 --> 02:33:46,290
want to say hi. And that was
Robert Mueller, Director of FBI

2457
02:33:46,290 --> 02:33:50,070
who was director of FBI two
years longer than statutorily

2458
02:33:50,070 --> 02:33:54,660
permitted. They had to have to
carry over from 2008 into Barack

2459
02:33:54,660 --> 02:33:59,250
Obama's term. They allowed him
to stay on as FBI Director two

2460
02:33:59,250 --> 02:34:02,970
more years against the law
because FBI had such a bad

2461
02:34:02,970 --> 02:34:05,490
reputation from its history,
which we've discussed on this

2462
02:34:05,490 --> 02:34:08,790
very show that no director was
allowed to be director for more

2463
02:34:08,790 --> 02:34:11,310
than 10 years except Robert
Mahler. We had to keep him for a

2464
02:34:11,310 --> 02:34:14,010
couple extra years, because he
knew where all the bodies were

2465
02:34:14,010 --> 02:34:18,450
buried. And there he was, in the
face book offices. And even in

2466
02:34:18,450 --> 02:34:21,540
the reporting of the article,
the journalist said that was one

2467
02:34:21,540 --> 02:34:24,570
of the weirdest things I ever
saw. And no one really knew what

2468
02:34:24,570 --> 02:34:27,360
to do with it, because that's
how they've been in these in

2469
02:34:27,360 --> 02:34:30,210
these companies for some since
day one.

2470
02:34:31,710 --> 02:34:37,380
Unknown: way Wait, this is the
mind screw. Take two steps back

2471
02:34:37,380 --> 02:34:42,210
and look at it. We Mia, you both
know who created the internet

2472
02:34:42,210 --> 02:34:48,150
and social media, of course, is
the government running this NGO

2473
02:34:48,150 --> 02:34:51,810
governmental organization?
That's the thing like the way

2474
02:34:51,810 --> 02:34:56,220
they frame it is like, oh,
Facebook is this corporation

2475
02:34:56,250 --> 02:35:01,170
independent and it has
government oversight. You No, is

2476
02:35:01,170 --> 02:35:10,050
a government agency with private
facing CEO. Look at its

2477
02:35:10,050 --> 02:35:13,980
cognitive dissonance. I hate to
say this, but because I hear

2478
02:35:13,980 --> 02:35:21,660
people say this all the time,
and when people say I had COVID,

2479
02:35:21,660 --> 02:35:26,550
three times four times, it's
like how do you know? How do you

2480
02:35:26,550 --> 02:35:33,210
know you had COVID? We all know
the PCR test is bullcrap. Even

2481
02:35:33,210 --> 02:35:35,970
people didn't know that you were
saying you didn't know. I'm just

2482
02:35:35,970 --> 02:35:41,490
saying this. This is how speak.
It's tricky this stuff is that

2483
02:35:41,520 --> 02:35:47,220
they'll stop, you know, and
believe they'll have you speak

2484
02:35:47,220 --> 02:35:52,200
against it out to be a contrary,
correct. We both know who

2485
02:35:52,200 --> 02:35:57,120
created us and Facebook. We know
that was a government creation.

2486
02:35:57,750 --> 02:36:01,590
So why wouldn't it be ran by the
government? Isn't it kind of

2487
02:36:01,590 --> 02:36:03,420
like oh, is this government
oversight?

2488
02:36:03,900 --> 02:36:06,870
Adam Curry: The door, the door
opened, I'm reading from the

2489
02:36:06,870 --> 02:36:09,420
article The door opened a
distinguished looking gray

2490
02:36:09,420 --> 02:36:12,660
haired man burst in. It's the
only way to describe his

2491
02:36:12,660 --> 02:36:16,230
entrance trailed by a couple of
deputies. He was both the oldest

2492
02:36:16,230 --> 02:36:19,980
person in the room 2010 by 20
years and the only one wearing a

2493
02:36:19,980 --> 02:36:22,920
suit he was in the building. He
explained with the delighted air

2494
02:36:22,920 --> 02:36:25,500
of a man about the secure
ironclad bragging rights

2495
02:36:25,500 --> 02:36:28,710
forever. He just had to stop in
and introduce himself to

2496
02:36:28,710 --> 02:36:31,680
Zuckerberg, Robert Mueller,
Director of the FBI Pleased to

2497
02:36:31,680 --> 02:36:34,770
meet you. They all shook hands
and chatted about nothing for a

2498
02:36:34,770 --> 02:36:38,010
couple of minutes. Then Muller
left. There was a giddy silence

2499
02:36:38,040 --> 02:36:41,040
giddy silence while everybody
just looked at one another as if

2500
02:36:41,040 --> 02:36:47,790
to say what the hell just
happened. In Q tel go look at in

2501
02:36:47,790 --> 02:36:53,070
Kyoto ecotel Is the venture
capital firm of the CIA. Not

2502
02:36:53,070 --> 02:36:56,700
they're not hiding it. And they
they funded many of these

2503
02:36:56,700 --> 02:36:58,980
companies, including Palantir.

2504
02:37:00,060 --> 02:37:02,610
Unknown: That's my point. He's
like, this is these are correct.

2505
02:37:02,610 --> 02:37:08,640
These were government created
pretty much entities. The NSA is

2506
02:37:08,640 --> 02:37:11,130
no alphabet, you know, saying
the history of alphabet, you

2507
02:37:11,130 --> 02:37:15,060
know, every all of this. But
they'll make it seem like oh,

2508
02:37:15,060 --> 02:37:20,700
no, we're just oversight. That's
all we're doing. No, no, I'm not

2509
02:37:20,700 --> 02:37:24,330
gonna fall. Because if you fall
for it, then you're living in

2510
02:37:24,330 --> 02:37:29,640
our false reality. We know what
Twitter is. We know what

2511
02:37:29,640 --> 02:37:30,630
Facebook is.

2512
02:37:32,040 --> 02:37:35,610
Adam Curry: Everything is fake.
Everything we know is fake. When

2513
02:37:35,610 --> 02:37:40,140
they say the simulation, yeah,
kind of media is the simulation.

2514
02:37:40,170 --> 02:37:43,260
It's all fake. It's been that
way for a long, long time.

2515
02:37:43,950 --> 02:37:46,590
Unknown: And that's why they
hate people like us, when we

2516
02:37:46,590 --> 02:37:50,670
come in actually have a
conversation like this. Other

2517
02:37:50,670 --> 02:37:53,400
people say I've noticed that
too. And then I noticed that as

2518
02:37:53,400 --> 02:37:57,660
well, I noticed that I noticed
that and it becomes infectious.

2519
02:37:58,260 --> 02:38:02,010
And that's why they want to
control all sides of it. Because

2520
02:38:02,010 --> 02:38:07,830
they cannot have people,
whatever. Free thinking you have

2521
02:38:07,860 --> 02:38:11,190
they want to give it to you.
Right? Yeah, you can you can

2522
02:38:11,190 --> 02:38:15,090
have this idea along, pick pick
pick from it, you know, pick any

2523
02:38:15,090 --> 02:38:18,030
idea you want from this table?
So I don't want one of those

2524
02:38:18,060 --> 02:38:19,710
ideas. It's like, oh, no,

2525
02:38:19,740 --> 02:38:21,810
Adam Curry: you got to pick from
one of these only one of them.

2526
02:38:23,370 --> 02:38:26,490
Unknown: Does this all go?
Quickly. Let's go through these

2527
02:38:26,520 --> 02:38:31,560
clips. But I want to show how
ingrained the government is in

2528
02:38:31,560 --> 02:38:34,710
these organizations to the point
it makes me think these are

2529
02:38:34,710 --> 02:38:38,580
government organizations we know
with private, out facing

2530
02:38:38,940 --> 02:38:39,840
representation.

2531
02:38:40,290 --> 02:38:44,460
Let's say you were trying to
staff a social media site. Who

2532
02:38:44,460 --> 02:38:46,890
would you hire? Well, obviously
since it's a tech business, you

2533
02:38:46,890 --> 02:38:49,950
would hire tech people, coders,
software engineers to keep the

2534
02:38:49,950 --> 02:38:52,590
place running. Then you'd hire
administrative staff because you

2535
02:38:52,590 --> 02:38:56,850
had to some lawyers, a caterer
flack or to maybe an interior

2536
02:38:56,850 --> 02:39:00,840
decorator if you wanted HQ to
look good. But how many spies

2537
02:39:00,840 --> 02:39:04,440
Would you hire? Well, probably
none. spies have nothing to do

2538
02:39:04,440 --> 02:39:06,930
with the mission of a social
media company, they would not be

2539
02:39:06,930 --> 02:39:10,410
needed. And you wouldn't hire
any opera singers either. Yet,

2540
02:39:10,410 --> 02:39:13,920
for some reason, Twitter seems
to need an awful lot of spies,

2541
02:39:13,920 --> 02:39:16,800
the upper ranks of Twitter, we
now know, we're absolutely

2542
02:39:16,800 --> 02:39:19,980
loaded with people who wanted
Intel work for government

2543
02:39:20,010 --> 02:39:23,640
agencies, at least 15 of these
people and possibly many more.

2544
02:39:24,270 --> 02:39:26,580
Most of them are hired in the
wake of Donald Trump's election.

2545
02:39:26,580 --> 02:39:29,460
Now, what were these people
doing all day? And what was

2546
02:39:29,460 --> 02:39:32,220
supposedly a social media
company? Well, that's the

2547
02:39:32,220 --> 02:39:33,030
question, isn't it?

2548
02:39:36,030 --> 02:39:40,050
Adam Curry: loaded, loaded,
loaded, loaded up to.

2549
02:39:40,470 --> 02:39:42,780
Unknown: We know that James
Baker came from the FBI has been

2550
02:39:42,780 --> 02:39:45,390
accused of secretly censoring
incriminating internal files

2551
02:39:45,390 --> 02:39:48,300
before Elon Musk could release
them to the public. Baker was

2552
02:39:48,300 --> 02:39:50,820
fired for that. So that's some
of what James Baker was doing at

2553
02:39:50,820 --> 02:39:54,600
Twitter. But how about Charles
Smith of Twitter's Trust and

2554
02:39:54,600 --> 02:39:57,900
Safety Department? Smith joined
Twitter after working at US

2555
02:39:57,900 --> 02:40:02,610
Cyber Command. Hey, We're about
Jeff to conjure formerly the

2556
02:40:02,610 --> 02:40:04,680
director of naval
counterintelligence what was he

2557
02:40:04,680 --> 02:40:10,050
doing? Or Kevin michelina or
duck hunter, Mark Jaruzelski or

2558
02:40:10,050 --> 02:40:13,200
Douglas Turner, Karen Walsh,
Russell hand or Vincent Lou

2559
02:40:13,200 --> 02:40:17,070
Sarah. All of these people once
worked for the FBI as well.

2560
02:40:17,250 --> 02:40:20,280
Their colleague Jeff Carlton
came from the CIA. Patrick

2561
02:40:20,280 --> 02:40:24,510
Conlon once worked at the NSA,
and so on. And it wasn't just

2562
02:40:24,510 --> 02:40:27,450
American Intel officers who
found a home at Twitter, the

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02:40:27,450 --> 02:40:31,650
company hired foreign spies to
in January Peters that CO was

2564
02:40:31,650 --> 02:40:33,900
fired from his position as
Twitter's head of security.

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02:40:34,140 --> 02:40:37,140
Reportedly, that CO lost his job
because he complained about the

2566
02:40:37,140 --> 02:40:40,470
level of control that foreign
intelligence agencies had over

2567
02:40:40,470 --> 02:40:43,380
virtually all of Twitter's
operations. According to Zack

2568
02:40:43,380 --> 02:40:45,930
CO, they were operatives on
Twitter's payroll from other

2569
02:40:45,930 --> 02:40:49,290
governments, including China in
India, and they had access to

2570
02:40:49,290 --> 02:40:52,560
private user data. And those are
just the details that we know

2571
02:40:52,560 --> 02:40:52,980
about.

2572
02:40:53,909 --> 02:40:55,889
Adam Curry: Yeah, it's called
Capture, of course, but they

2573
02:40:55,889 --> 02:40:58,019
said it wasn't even captured.
They were there. For them. It's

2574
02:40:58,019 --> 02:41:03,449
very, it's very much like the
big pharma and the FDA. So Scott

2575
02:41:03,449 --> 02:41:08,309
Gottlieb, who was on CNBC all
the time, as an analyst, he

2576
02:41:08,309 --> 02:41:14,729
speaks about vaccines, mainly.
He was administrator at the FDA,

2577
02:41:14,729 --> 02:41:18,239
and he left and he became, he's
on the board of Pfizer.

2578
02:41:19,440 --> 02:41:22,200
Unknown: You know, the
government owns your data, they

2579
02:41:22,200 --> 02:41:25,230
own everything, and they and
they can do whatever they want

2580
02:41:25,230 --> 02:41:28,950
with it. This is not our
organization with a few

2581
02:41:28,950 --> 02:41:33,990
governmental, you know, appoint
a former government appointees

2582
02:41:33,990 --> 02:41:38,850
and it No, this is a government
organization period. In this

2583
02:41:38,850 --> 02:41:44,940
story, this is obviously you
can't be any other way.

2584
02:41:45,749 --> 02:41:47,909
Adam Curry: It is. They all are.

2585
02:41:49,200 --> 02:41:53,970
Unknown: And if not that in Oh,
who we get to fix it. The brain

2586
02:41:53,970 --> 02:41:59,250
chip guy. Monkey? Yeah, that's
gonna save you. Well, just the

2587
02:41:59,250 --> 02:42:00,270
Rocket Man, you

2588
02:42:01,169 --> 02:42:03,989
Adam Curry: know, this, this is
the problem. And I laid it out

2589
02:42:03,989 --> 02:42:06,599
for Joe Rogan. And he kind of
looked at me like said, dude,

2590
02:42:06,809 --> 02:42:09,149
Elon Musk works for the
government. And it's not a

2591
02:42:09,149 --> 02:42:15,239
secret that every you know, my
favorite was, it was, you know,

2592
02:42:15,239 --> 02:42:17,849
and this was a great way to do
with Starlink. I love Starlink.

2593
02:42:17,849 --> 02:42:21,689
Starling. Because great
Starlink. But no, it's not. That

2594
02:42:21,689 --> 02:42:28,499
would never be profitable just
for just for consumers. No, no.

2595
02:42:28,619 --> 02:42:36,179
So he had to put everything into
Ukraine and then say, well, you

2596
02:42:36,179 --> 02:42:40,229
know, Ukraine, you're using it
for offensive, it was supposed

2597
02:42:40,229 --> 02:42:44,549
to only be defensive. So I'm
gonna turn it off. But he didn't

2598
02:42:44,549 --> 02:42:49,979
turn it off. No, he just, he
just opened up the true. The

2599
02:42:49,979 --> 02:42:57,869
true company, which is called I
think it's called Star Shield is

2600
02:42:57,869 --> 02:43:01,109
the same technology only the
Ukrainian government has to pay

2601
02:43:01,109 --> 02:43:04,439
for it for military purposes. So
of course,

2602
02:43:04,470 --> 02:43:07,620
Unknown: you see the same exact
thing like we create something

2603
02:43:07,620 --> 02:43:11,790
that this government created
exactly opening up for the

2604
02:43:11,790 --> 02:43:15,480
public to use. Yep. And do you
think you have a private

2605
02:43:15,480 --> 02:43:19,920
corporation? No. You think that
we give Zuckerberg that much

2606
02:43:19,920 --> 02:43:24,660
power? Come on? Think about it.
Look at the guy. She's a lizard.

2607
02:43:25,800 --> 02:43:26,910
Adam Curry: Here's back to
Tucker,

2608
02:43:27,000 --> 02:43:29,490
Unknown: you on, Musk was asked
recently how many former FBI

2609
02:43:29,490 --> 02:43:32,880
agents are currently employed by
Twitter? But he wouldn't say

2610
02:43:33,780 --> 02:43:37,500
it's all pretty weird. Could it
be there while the rest of us

2611
02:43:37,500 --> 02:43:40,710
imagined that Twitter was a
social media site, a place to

2612
02:43:40,710 --> 02:43:43,530
vent about politics and sports
and the Kardashians? Could it be

2613
02:43:43,530 --> 02:43:48,090
that Twitter was actually maybe
primarily a propaganda tool and

2614
02:43:48,090 --> 02:43:51,930
intelligence gathering apparatus
for a variety of Intel agencies?

2615
02:43:52,500 --> 02:43:55,260
Well, yes, that's possible. And
you can see why various

2616
02:43:55,260 --> 02:43:57,510
governments would want access to
the information that Twitter

2617
02:43:57,510 --> 02:44:01,410
had. Keep in mind that Twitter's
direct message to DM feature

2618
02:44:01,410 --> 02:44:04,740
function for many years as a
kind of private text app for

2619
02:44:04,740 --> 02:44:07,590
some of the world's most
prominent people. So if you want

2620
02:44:07,590 --> 02:44:10,530
to know what high government
officials really thought, if you

2621
02:44:10,530 --> 02:44:12,540
wanted to know what well
informed sources, were telling

2622
02:44:12,540 --> 02:44:15,090
reporters off the record, you
would want to see those

2623
02:44:15,090 --> 02:44:19,680
messages. Did Twitter executives
ever share those DMS those

2624
02:44:19,680 --> 02:44:23,370
private messages with anyone
outside the company without a

2625
02:44:23,370 --> 02:44:26,460
warrant? We strongly suspect
that they did.

2626
02:44:26,700 --> 02:44:30,480
Adam Curry: No, please. You they
don't have to because the FBI

2627
02:44:30,480 --> 02:44:32,670
could just look at it
themselves. And they have the

2628
02:44:32,670 --> 02:44:36,360
portal can get right in that my
favorite is Gmail. Go look at

2629
02:44:36,360 --> 02:44:39,450
the terms and service of Gmail
right there. It says we read

2630
02:44:39,450 --> 02:44:44,100
your email, you know, to help
you and it's it's amazing how

2631
02:44:44,100 --> 02:44:48,660
many even the intelligence
agencies use Gmail. They all use

2632
02:44:48,660 --> 02:44:49,410
Gmail.

2633
02:44:50,790 --> 02:44:55,410
Unknown: But the biggest sign up
is we we know we don't have

2634
02:44:55,410 --> 02:45:03,600
privacy. It's Hello wasn't that
the whole thing with? What was

2635
02:45:03,660 --> 02:45:08,370
the Patriot Act? And yeah, all
the spying? No more freedom.

2636
02:45:08,400 --> 02:45:11,730
Yeah. Now we're arguing over the
freedom does not exist in the

2637
02:45:11,730 --> 02:45:14,490
first place. What what are we
doing here? It's like

2638
02:45:16,170 --> 02:45:18,780
Adam Curry: That's exactly
right. And that was the warning

2639
02:45:18,780 --> 02:45:21,450
about the Patriot Act. It was
written before it was written

2640
02:45:21,450 --> 02:45:26,130
two weeks before it got passed.
It was already written out. It's

2641
02:45:26,160 --> 02:45:30,630
where it were frogs in the
boiling pot. Well, not you and I

2642
02:45:30,690 --> 02:45:34,020
were of course, right. We're in
the sauna over there. Hanging

2643
02:45:34,020 --> 02:45:39,900
out with our crystal water hot
water. Make me laugh again,

2644
02:45:39,900 --> 02:45:41,100
stop. Oh, sorry.

2645
02:45:42,810 --> 02:45:44,400
Unknown: Is that was 32?

2646
02:45:44,430 --> 02:45:47,610
Adam Curry: Yeah, we got no 30.
Here's the last one. Just last

2647
02:45:47,610 --> 02:45:48,150
Tucker clip,

2648
02:45:48,660 --> 02:45:51,240
Unknown: of course resides on
Twitter servers, along with a

2649
02:45:51,240 --> 02:45:54,330
lot else. Think about it. If
Twitter has been functioning as

2650
02:45:54,330 --> 02:45:56,970
the arm of government, Intel
agencies and clearly it has

2651
02:45:56,970 --> 02:45:59,700
been, then its internal
documents will contain

2652
02:45:59,700 --> 02:46:02,940
information about all kinds of
things, not just about the

2653
02:46:02,940 --> 02:46:05,730
silencing of Donald Trump, not
just about Tony Fauci is

2654
02:46:05,730 --> 02:46:10,650
buffoonish lies about the COVID
shot, no information about Big

2655
02:46:10,680 --> 02:46:14,280
History shaping events, the
sabotage of Nord Stream two, for

2656
02:46:14,280 --> 02:46:17,670
example, the supposin Poison gas
attacks in Syria, both of them

2657
02:46:18,090 --> 02:46:21,120
the imprisonment of Julian
Assange, why is he there? The

2658
02:46:21,120 --> 02:46:23,850
theft of incriminating emails
from the DNC, what was that

2659
02:46:23,850 --> 02:46:27,600
story, the motive behind the
Russian invasion of Ukraine, and

2660
02:46:27,600 --> 02:46:32,760
much, much more. In other words,
Elon Musk now has control of the

2661
02:46:32,760 --> 02:46:36,510
most significant trove of secret
information ever to reside in

2662
02:46:36,510 --> 02:46:39,990
private hands. So far, we have
not seen much of it. And you

2663
02:46:39,990 --> 02:46:42,930
have to wonder why we haven't.
Let's hope that we do.

2664
02:46:43,440 --> 02:46:47,100
Adam Curry: Yeah, Dream on. One
last personal experience. I know

2665
02:46:47,100 --> 02:46:52,500
Elon Musk, I met him we had the
same investors in the mid 2000s.

2666
02:46:52,920 --> 02:46:58,920
Completely unimpressive man. Not
impressive at all. He doesn't

2667
02:46:58,920 --> 02:47:02,610
even write most of his tweets. I
guarantee you. He's not he's not

2668
02:47:02,610 --> 02:47:05,580
writing that. He is a complete
cut out.

2669
02:47:06,210 --> 02:47:09,300
Unknown: Before we go to the
next donation segment. I just

2670
02:47:09,300 --> 02:47:12,300
want to bring up one point. You
remember what they said about

2671
02:47:12,300 --> 02:47:16,230
the record of sex? What do you
mean all those guys have phones?

2672
02:47:16,500 --> 02:47:19,830
What do you even know their
names? Right? It's the same way

2673
02:47:19,830 --> 02:47:27,570
on that in that in that arena,
that there's a level above these

2674
02:47:27,570 --> 02:47:30,780
guys, Elon Musk and Mark
Zuckerberg are people that we

2675
02:47:30,780 --> 02:47:36,390
don't know their names, but that
they sign artists, like you

2676
02:47:36,390 --> 02:47:40,440
know, they sign Elon and
Zuckerberg, I know someone and

2677
02:47:40,440 --> 02:47:41,160
they perform

2678
02:47:41,190 --> 02:47:44,010
Adam Curry: great. I know some
of them. I mean, look at the

2679
02:47:44,010 --> 02:47:51,630
money. It's John Doerr. at
Kleiner Perkins, it's roll on,

2680
02:47:52,260 --> 02:47:56,760
roll on buta also South African
who runs Sequoia Capital. And

2681
02:47:56,760 --> 02:48:02,430
they have masters to the same
guys who pumped in hundreds of

2682
02:48:02,430 --> 02:48:05,880
millions of dollars into FTX.
The smartest investors in the

2683
02:48:05,880 --> 02:48:08,940
world mind you, they did
everything. Oh, they're so

2684
02:48:08,940 --> 02:48:11,160
smart. They didn't do any
diligence. They were in fact

2685
02:48:11,160 --> 02:48:14,340
they were blown away that Sam
bank when fried was playing

2686
02:48:14,340 --> 02:48:18,210
video games during the pitch
meeting. I mean, that thing oh

2687
02:48:18,210 --> 02:48:21,420
man, and that's gonna go
straight to Stanford University.

2688
02:48:21,540 --> 02:48:24,360
One of these days some of it
will come out. We'll figure some

2689
02:48:24,360 --> 02:48:28,680
of it out. Probably not all of
it. But it is a as George Carlin

2690
02:48:28,680 --> 02:48:36,420
said it's a big it's a big club
and you're not in it. Exactly.

2691
02:48:36,870 --> 02:48:42,390
Unknown: Exactly. However one
club you can be is exactly isn't

2692
02:48:42,390 --> 02:48:44,850
mo faction. Like Brandon money.
I

2693
02:48:44,850 --> 02:48:49,170
just I don't want anyone around
me. It's not I don't really have

2694
02:48:49,230 --> 02:48:54,180
a new one that are bred than an
old 20 That's kind of dumb. But

2695
02:48:54,180 --> 02:48:57,180
there's something about new
money that excites you like $100

2696
02:48:57,180 --> 02:49:02,760
bills. owe money to the most
beautiful thing on earth is $100

2697
02:49:02,760 --> 02:49:05,250
bill I haven't seen a woman is
good looking at $100 bill.

2698
02:49:05,970 --> 02:49:07,920
Here's something that excites
you.

2699
02:49:08,970 --> 02:49:11,610
Adam Curry: Well, we already
went past our $100 bill. We are

2700
02:49:11,610 --> 02:49:14,190
here at the rest of our
producers for episode 90 of Mo

2701
02:49:14,190 --> 02:49:17,940
facts with Adam curry. $45 from
Betty s and she's in there's a

2702
02:49:17,940 --> 02:49:20,520
check for note do I need to
check for a note what's what is

2703
02:49:20,520 --> 02:49:20,970
that?

2704
02:49:21,360 --> 02:49:23,550
Unknown: No, no no no I checked
for there's no note Oh, you

2705
02:49:23,550 --> 02:49:27,180
check no notes we check when
checks come I have to go back

2706
02:49:27,180 --> 02:49:27,810
and check

2707
02:49:27,810 --> 02:49:30,360
Adam Curry: out. I gotcha. Thank
you very much Betty. We

2708
02:49:30,360 --> 02:49:34,020
appreciate it. Carol a chase $40
I'm gonna listen subscriber and

2709
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donor to the MO factor that
increase show. I haven't seen

2710
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episode drop for a while and my
wondering how you were doing and

2711
02:49:40,320 --> 02:49:42,480
I'm wondering how you're doing
we're doing okay. Is there

2712
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anything I can be praying for
you and your family? Oh, forget

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health.

2714
02:49:46,140 --> 02:49:49,290
Unknown: Was that good health?
Good health. It's always a good

2715
02:49:49,290 --> 02:49:49,590
start.

2716
02:49:49,620 --> 02:49:51,450
Adam Curry: Yes. And thank you
very, thank you. Thank you very

2717
02:49:51,450 --> 02:49:54,960
much for thinking of us that way
curl. We try. We try really hard

2718
02:49:54,960 --> 02:49:57,450
life gets in the way. Sometimes
it's just very hard to do this

2719
02:49:57,450 --> 02:50:03,990
show. We have our own thoughts
about why that Is but we we will

2720
02:50:03,990 --> 02:50:08,730
not stop. We continue to move
forward. Jennifer Kaito thank

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you for your $40 Melissa Reeve
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introduced my fiance to your
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during the long flights he has
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for work. I'll be flying out to
meet him next month in Chile.

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I'm so Adam I apologize for
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I'm trying to save up every

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However, I still have to give to

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Mofaz because y'all keep me sane
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feedback on what he thinks of

2731
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the show yet, but I'm hoping
he'll give me a shout out soon.

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Unknown: so we have two more
pieces of information to go

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through before we wrap up.
Warming news benders I have you

2774
02:53:56,790 --> 02:54:04,470
heard this or seen this is the
BBC I think like 1970s It was it

2775
02:54:04,470 --> 02:54:08,490
was fictitious but but very
accurate.

2776
02:54:08,850 --> 02:54:15,330
Adam Curry: No. So kind of
satirical. Yes. Okay. Maybe when

2777
02:54:15,330 --> 02:54:20,460
I hear it but the name sounds
kind of familiar. But I'd love

2778
02:54:20,460 --> 02:54:21,690
to hear it to get refreshed
Quick,

2779
02:54:21,690 --> 02:54:24,090
Unknown: quick oversight, just
so people know what's going on

2780
02:54:24,090 --> 02:54:30,600
here. This is kind of how a
agent would get brought in and

2781
02:54:30,600 --> 02:54:36,300
looped into the the powers that
be like they had been kept an

2782
02:54:36,330 --> 02:54:40,470
eye on you. They liked the work
you're doing and then they let

2783
02:54:40,470 --> 02:54:45,030
you come in you know and access
another ram of power. This is

2784
02:54:45,030 --> 02:54:49,140
kind of like the introduction in
the CLO we're not in Okay, so.

2785
02:54:49,890 --> 02:54:52,980
So I thought this is great.
You're saying you can stop it as

2786
02:54:52,980 --> 02:54:55,740
you please. I think some of the
clips are a little longer so you

2787
02:54:55,740 --> 02:54:59,040
can stop me clip if you like.
Anything you find interesting.

2788
02:54:59,040 --> 02:55:01,170
Let's going jumping Awkward
number 34.

2789
02:55:02,790 --> 02:55:03,960
Guys, we got to come here

2790
02:55:04,020 --> 02:55:06,930
to knockin. But I couldn't see
what let's see WNS would run

2791
02:55:06,930 --> 02:55:08,160
with me. Still can't

2792
02:55:08,760 --> 02:55:09,720
know anything about it.

2793
02:55:11,400 --> 02:55:16,860
I was working for the BBC. See
WNS set up midway between the

2794
02:55:16,860 --> 02:55:21,090
government of the TV companies,
anytime the newsreel boys put on

2795
02:55:21,090 --> 02:55:24,030
stuff and security,
classification wars, weapons,

2796
02:55:24,030 --> 02:55:26,700
political leaks, they get their
film to this office.

2797
02:55:27,210 --> 02:55:32,850
What do we know about Larkin?
Robert

2798
02:55:32,999 --> 02:55:35,969
sample is its family, man, good
family.

2799
02:55:36,660 --> 02:55:41,220
Good education. But you turned
your back on all that. A little

2800
02:55:41,220 --> 02:55:43,950
bit of everything. Six years
ago, there were those shows you

2801
02:55:43,950 --> 02:55:49,350
did on alcoholism, love sports.
Some clearance. People called

2802
02:55:49,350 --> 02:55:53,400
you bright, they bright. Other
words, they use

2803
02:55:53,880 --> 02:55:55,800
hard hitting battle.

2804
02:55:56,490 --> 02:56:00,180
Now you do only four shows a
year. The critics called and

2805
02:56:00,180 --> 02:56:05,700
really unfair high in the
ratings. And well, the souffles

2806
02:56:07,050 --> 02:56:11,580
soft in the center. Don't think
I'm complaining. Oh, you could

2807
02:56:11,580 --> 02:56:14,520
complain if you want to just
call it a friendly professional

2808
02:56:16,530 --> 02:56:19,500
to know what happened to
alcoholism. Let's

2809
02:56:21,360 --> 02:56:26,550
call it reaching the age of 35.
Call it school fees to fix the

2810
02:56:26,550 --> 02:56:30,960
dresses call it Jordan
establishment college being a

2811
02:56:30,960 --> 02:56:33,390
socialist for 15 years and a
company I've never been

2812
02:56:33,390 --> 02:56:33,960
socialist.

2813
02:56:36,450 --> 02:56:38,730
Adam Curry: I don't think I've
heard these before.

2814
02:56:39,840 --> 02:56:42,780
Unknown: Okay, so just for
people with this, this to catch

2815
02:56:42,780 --> 02:56:47,070
them up to speed. He's basically
on an interview without knowing

2816
02:56:47,070 --> 02:56:50,790
it. The one gentleman, you know,
has all his background

2817
02:56:50,790 --> 02:56:54,810
information. And he's saying
basically, that, you know, used

2818
02:56:54,810 --> 02:56:57,210
to make these hard hitting
pieces, which makes me think of

2819
02:56:57,210 --> 02:57:04,260
Tucker mount. Yeah, yeah, used
to make these hard hitting

2820
02:57:04,260 --> 02:57:06,630
pieces. And all of a sudden now
it's through flames and like

2821
02:57:06,630 --> 02:57:10,920
what happened, and he's like,
you know, two kids and no

2822
02:57:11,760 --> 02:57:18,030
joining establishment in ah,
like, this is the I think this

2823
02:57:18,030 --> 02:57:22,350
is more powerful than money is
the access. And I spoke about

2824
02:57:22,350 --> 02:57:26,280
this before on the show, is when
I was separated from my company,

2825
02:57:27,150 --> 02:57:30,810
better your occupation is tied
into your identity for a large

2826
02:57:30,810 --> 02:57:35,910
part, you know, oh toe. So when
you get divorced from that, it's

2827
02:57:35,940 --> 02:57:38,850
kind of like who am I? And I
think a lot of people don't want

2828
02:57:38,850 --> 02:57:41,430
to reinvent themselves. So I
just wanted to break down what's

2829
02:57:41,430 --> 02:57:45,780
going on here because it might
be like, no hard to understand

2830
02:57:45,780 --> 02:57:48,390
what's going on in the
beginning. But that's, you know,

2831
02:57:48,960 --> 02:57:52,020
that's the setup, so we can get
more into it now with 35.

2832
02:57:52,380 --> 02:57:53,490
What do you want?

2833
02:57:57,900 --> 02:58:06,000
People in love. work for us.
Nothing more sinister than that.

2834
02:58:07,110 --> 02:58:11,010
All this just offered me a job,
special

2835
02:58:11,010 --> 02:58:14,880
sort of job. The newspapers talk
about the corridors of power,

2836
02:58:14,880 --> 02:58:19,350
the power elite. Let's just say,
We'd like you to join the Club.

2837
02:58:20,670 --> 02:58:23,610
There's a vacancy in our
newsreel department. We'd like

2838
02:58:23,610 --> 02:58:30,270
you to help plan the news for
1973. Come again, plan the news

2839
02:58:30,270 --> 02:58:31,530
for 1973.

2840
02:58:37,350 --> 02:58:41,610
What you're doing, I just want
to make sure that sunlights real

2841
02:58:47,550 --> 02:58:59,340
I always tell people news is the
most highly developed the most

2842
02:58:59,340 --> 02:58:59,730
difficult

2843
02:59:01,830 --> 02:59:03,930
Adam Curry: make the news for
1973. Please.

2844
02:59:04,560 --> 02:59:07,710
Unknown: Yeah, they're planning
the news for years to come.

2845
02:59:09,030 --> 02:59:15,810
Which I think in some ways, it's
done for us now. Yeah, don't you

2846
02:59:15,810 --> 02:59:18,960
kind of can't predict what I
mean. We do it with this show.

2847
02:59:19,140 --> 02:59:22,470
Yeah, this is why you say you're
from the future. You know, and

2848
02:59:22,470 --> 02:59:26,040
we had to do goggles and things
of that nature. If you watch

2849
02:59:26,040 --> 02:59:31,170
news enough, you can kind of
tell what's gonna be next. Right

2850
02:59:31,200 --> 02:59:33,690
now like superpower? I don't
think not, you know, to diminish

2851
02:59:33,690 --> 02:59:37,350
it, but I have the same thing.
It's it's patterns that you

2852
02:59:37,680 --> 02:59:39,810
Adam Curry: know, you can just
wait for it you can just wait

2853
02:59:39,810 --> 02:59:43,470
for it, you know, what's coming
and whatever was successful,

2854
02:59:43,470 --> 02:59:44,460
they'll do it again.

2855
02:59:46,110 --> 02:59:49,800
Unknown: And that's the that's
the beauty of it, you know, in a

2856
02:59:49,800 --> 02:59:53,550
sinister way, is they just feed
you more of what you like. It's

2857
02:59:53,550 --> 02:59:57,690
kind of like your suggestion on
your social media is like, Oh,

2858
02:59:57,690 --> 02:59:59,970
you like that kind of video. Let
me give it to him more like it

2859
03:00:00,000 --> 03:00:03,540
Adam Curry: not kind of like
exactly like, Okay.

2860
03:00:04,980 --> 03:00:06,210
Unknown: Want to move on?

2861
03:00:07,170 --> 03:00:10,590
Adam Curry: Let's play. Which
one is play one more? I got

2862
03:00:10,590 --> 03:00:13,800
3637 38 Which one should I play?
Do you know which one is?

2863
03:00:14,459 --> 03:00:17,519
Unknown: Let's just jump now
with the 39 to the to the to the

2864
03:00:17,519 --> 03:00:17,819
last

2865
03:00:17,820 --> 03:00:19,980
Adam Curry: one. Okay, well, I
won't

2866
03:00:19,980 --> 03:00:20,580
Unknown: buy it

2867
03:00:21,930 --> 03:00:24,420
you must admit there has to be
some kind of control in this

2868
03:00:24,420 --> 03:00:31,320
world of that. And remember that
one quarter of the world is

2869
03:00:31,320 --> 03:00:36,420
starving. There are the full
bellies and the empty bellies.

2870
03:00:37,080 --> 03:00:41,520
Some of the empty bellies carry
rifles. Well, we fooled that is

2871
03:00:41,880 --> 03:00:44,160
getting a bit flabby. We're not
very good with rifles anymore.

2872
03:00:44,160 --> 03:00:46,410
So we've devised two ways to
keep you up to Bell is under

2873
03:00:46,410 --> 03:00:50,070
control. One of them is this
fictitious hydrogen bomb we

2874
03:00:50,070 --> 03:00:54,060
talked about is money, enough
money to fill some of the empty

2875
03:00:54,060 --> 03:00:58,200
bellies to put a hopeful smile
on the faces of the others. A

2876
03:00:58,200 --> 03:01:02,430
great wall of money all around
Britain. And it's no secret that

2877
03:01:02,430 --> 03:01:06,360
the British economy's in trouble
at the moment. So we have to put

2878
03:01:06,360 --> 03:01:08,880
that right to to stay alive. We
have to control the people in

2879
03:01:08,880 --> 03:01:14,190
this country. Scarran ostrich
that has its head in the sand.

2880
03:01:15,090 --> 03:01:19,170
To scare a hedgehog it rolls
itself up into football. When a

2881
03:01:19,170 --> 03:01:21,690
woman's frightened she goes out
and buys herself a hat.

2882
03:01:23,610 --> 03:01:27,540
You mean you scare us. So that
will buy more so that sort of

2883
03:01:27,540 --> 03:01:29,580
money moves quicker production
moves up. We

2884
03:01:29,580 --> 03:01:32,040
don't say scale when we talk
about human beings we say

2885
03:01:32,430 --> 03:01:36,360
threatened them emotionally. And
there all sorts of ways of doing

2886
03:01:36,360 --> 03:01:39,810
not just the big ones like the
hydrogen bomb. overcrowd them a

2887
03:01:39,810 --> 03:01:42,960
little with bad planning, sell
them too many motorcars anything

2888
03:01:42,960 --> 03:01:46,710
to keep them a little bit
removed from reality. Nowadays,

2889
03:01:46,710 --> 03:01:50,010
people don't work for money.
They weren't for the idea of

2890
03:01:50,010 --> 03:01:55,980
money. They don't even love for
love. They love for the idea of

2891
03:01:55,980 --> 03:01:59,640
love. They only hate for the
idea of hate.

2892
03:02:00,180 --> 03:02:03,180
Adam Curry: Wow, this is the OG
limited Hangout right here.

2893
03:02:05,640 --> 03:02:08,550
That's great. I know people have
emailed me about this. I don't

2894
03:02:08,550 --> 03:02:11,040
think I've ever watched it
fully. So it's good to hear

2895
03:02:11,040 --> 03:02:13,110
this. But yeah, people have told
me you got to watch this. And

2896
03:02:13,110 --> 03:02:14,430
now I get it. Totally.

2897
03:02:14,910 --> 03:02:17,460
Unknown: And isn't it
fascinating. The two things that

2898
03:02:17,460 --> 03:02:20,460
he talked about? Well, three
things he said the full bellies

2899
03:02:20,460 --> 03:02:24,060
and empty bellies, which food is
a big thing now story? Yep.

2900
03:02:24,540 --> 03:02:29,520
Nuclear war. Yep. And inflation
and financial

2901
03:02:30,660 --> 03:02:33,180
Adam Curry: security. Yeah, it's
the trifecta right there.

2902
03:02:34,170 --> 03:02:37,980
Unknown: And they're, they use
they work. It worked before

2903
03:02:37,980 --> 03:02:39,390
Leslie's run it back.

2904
03:02:39,570 --> 03:02:42,300
Adam Curry: And by the way, we
also have a way to profit off of

2905
03:02:42,300 --> 03:02:44,640
that ourselves. It's called Big
Pharma. Here's a pill.

2906
03:02:45,480 --> 03:02:47,880
Unknown: We got a pill for
everything. You're doing it to

2907
03:02:47,880 --> 03:02:48,330
ages.

2908
03:02:51,930 --> 03:02:55,680
Adam Curry: By the way, you
overweight or you obese because

2909
03:02:55,680 --> 03:02:58,890
of the shit you're eating? Don't
worry, we have ozempic.

2910
03:03:00,180 --> 03:03:03,060
Unknown: I'm waiting for the
nuclear repeal. But it'll

2911
03:03:03,060 --> 03:03:03,420
protect

2912
03:03:03,420 --> 03:03:07,140
Adam Curry: you from the nuke.
Yeah, nice. Well, that's what

2913
03:03:07,140 --> 03:03:09,420
Alex Jones has it already iodine
pills.

2914
03:03:09,450 --> 03:03:12,270
Unknown: So now, but they gotta
have, they gotta have a big

2915
03:03:12,270 --> 03:03:15,240
pharma version of it. Like I'm
gonna like a new vaccine. So

2916
03:03:17,010 --> 03:03:18,540
Adam Curry: it'll protect you
from the fallout?

2917
03:03:19,050 --> 03:03:22,170
Unknown: Well, speaking appeals,
this last three clips right here

2918
03:03:22,380 --> 03:03:26,220
is hopefully because we I always
prided myself on not leaving

2919
03:03:26,220 --> 03:03:30,870
people in despair. No. And this
is courtesy of a class he sent

2920
03:03:30,870 --> 03:03:35,940
me this set of clips. And I just
want to say, the last scheduled

2921
03:03:35,940 --> 03:03:40,590
date, we had to record this
show. We didn't go through with

2922
03:03:40,590 --> 03:03:44,910
this and that thing. Right. And
that was a day a lot of my

2923
03:03:44,910 --> 03:03:49,680
friends and former colleagues
were laid off from our former

2924
03:03:49,680 --> 03:03:50,610
place of employment,

2925
03:03:50,670 --> 03:03:52,680
Adam Curry: right. And were
these were these even if I

2926
03:03:52,680 --> 03:03:56,370
understand it, rightly, people
who had refused to take the

2927
03:03:56,370 --> 03:04:01,470
vaccine, were invited back to
the company. And this and then

2928
03:04:01,470 --> 03:04:04,350
were let go let go because they
chopped jobs.

2929
03:04:04,800 --> 03:04:08,310
Unknown: Yeah, that's crazy.
Which remember that ship

2930
03:04:08,310 --> 03:04:12,810
shortage now is the chip glut.
So I mean, just to show you how

2931
03:04:12,810 --> 03:04:15,180
to go on from the previous
clips, well,

2932
03:04:15,630 --> 03:04:18,510
Adam Curry: it was the chips
act, they got $2 trillion, or

2933
03:04:18,510 --> 03:04:20,280
some some crazy amount like
that.

2934
03:04:20,430 --> 03:04:24,510
Unknown: Right, but we can't
keep people employed. Did you

2935
03:04:24,510 --> 03:04:30,690
make that make sense? Yeah.
Oops. So with that said, this is

2936
03:04:30,690 --> 03:04:35,220
how you control your own power,
your own security. This is Earl

2937
03:04:35,220 --> 03:04:39,120
Nightingale, courtesy of my man
II class. And I tell them what

2938
03:04:39,120 --> 03:04:42,150
you sent me this clip. I was
like you made the show. Let's go

2939
03:04:42,150 --> 03:04:44,970
ahead and run through these
cocktails would be very helpful,

2940
03:04:45,270 --> 03:04:51,600
is own point on topic about what
Crowder was going through maybe

2941
03:04:51,630 --> 03:04:56,370
maybe he doesn't want to go work
for anybody else I can relate is

2942
03:04:56,370 --> 03:05:00,480
a certain security and in
working for yourself So let's go

2943
03:05:00,480 --> 03:05:02,910
ahead and go through these right
quick. And then we can wrap up

2944
03:05:02,910 --> 03:05:04,320
the show, we are

2945
03:05:04,350 --> 03:05:09,120
what we think about our minds,
our thinking controls our

2946
03:05:09,120 --> 03:05:12,630
destinies here on earth to a
degree totally unsuspected, but

2947
03:05:12,630 --> 03:05:15,900
a great majority of people. When
you think about it, the moment

2948
03:05:15,960 --> 03:05:20,490
it becomes so obvious, so clear
and simple. Well, then, if we

2949
03:05:20,490 --> 03:05:24,930
become what we think about, and
if we can control our minds, we

2950
03:05:24,930 --> 03:05:28,200
can pretty well tell our own
future. And that's the point I

2951
03:05:28,200 --> 03:05:31,410
want to make. That's what I
meant when I said earlier, that

2952
03:05:31,410 --> 03:05:35,070
each one of us is the architect
of the structure fashioned by

2953
03:05:35,070 --> 03:05:38,940
our years. This means that if
we're confused about what we

2954
03:05:38,940 --> 03:05:42,210
wish to become or accomplish our
lives, our environment will

2955
03:05:42,210 --> 03:05:45,810
mirror that confusion. It also
means that if we know what it

2956
03:05:45,810 --> 03:05:50,700
is, we seek, that it will, it
must be accomplished. barring an

2957
03:05:50,700 --> 03:05:54,300
act of God or a catastrophe over
which we have no control. We as

2958
03:05:54,300 --> 03:05:58,290
individuals can call our own
shots for the rest of our lives,

2959
03:05:58,620 --> 03:06:01,350
we can know what it means to go
through life, from one success

2960
03:06:01,350 --> 03:06:04,260
to another, to play life
according to the rules and reap

2961
03:06:04,260 --> 03:06:08,040
the rewards. We can know what it
means to have peace of mind, and

2962
03:06:08,040 --> 03:06:12,780
live calm, cheerful, successful
lives. You are at this moment,

2963
03:06:12,840 --> 03:06:15,990
the sum total of your thoughts
to this point, for there is

2964
03:06:15,990 --> 03:06:21,090
nothing else you can be. This is
for a very famous radio guy,

2965
03:06:21,360 --> 03:06:23,850
Earl Nightingale very, very
famous. Yeah, he's

2966
03:06:24,060 --> 03:06:25,710
Adam Curry: 1000s of programs.

2967
03:06:26,220 --> 03:06:28,290
Unknown: And the one that
changed my life was the

2968
03:06:28,290 --> 03:06:31,770
strangest secret you need to go
listen to if you haven't. And as

2969
03:06:31,770 --> 03:06:36,750
he said, we're, we're a product
of our thoughts. Now, hopefully

2970
03:06:36,750 --> 03:06:41,250
people understand why that media
is so important for population

2971
03:06:41,250 --> 03:06:46,620
control, for Mind Control,
because they get you in the

2972
03:06:46,620 --> 03:06:52,470
morning. I told you my my old
phone would feed me news

2973
03:06:52,470 --> 03:06:56,130
stories. And my alarm clock.
Yeah, the alarm clock would go

2974
03:06:56,130 --> 03:06:58,620
off. And I these are the stories
you need to think about for

2975
03:06:58,620 --> 03:07:03,210
today, basically. And it was if
I if I allowed it, it would

2976
03:07:03,210 --> 03:07:06,360
shake my day, which I didn't.
But I just found it fascinating

2977
03:07:06,360 --> 03:07:11,670
that from your wake of your
sleep. Oh, yeah, they they have

2978
03:07:11,670 --> 03:07:16,440
you tapped in and then it's just
a 24 hour cycle of feeding you

2979
03:07:16,440 --> 03:07:20,010
things to be reactive to and
like you said with the frogs,

2980
03:07:20,280 --> 03:07:22,620
the frog what reacts to the
water?

2981
03:07:24,060 --> 03:07:28,140
Adam Curry: For over a year, my
wife Tina and I, we have changed

2982
03:07:28,140 --> 03:07:31,620
our morning routine. Because of
course, it's very easy to

2983
03:07:31,680 --> 03:07:36,060
certainly for me to start right
away with oh, what's going on? I

2984
03:07:36,060 --> 03:07:37,980
see what's happening. What was
the news? What happened

2985
03:07:37,980 --> 03:07:41,910
overnight, what did we start by
first saying good morning to

2986
03:07:41,910 --> 03:07:47,250
Holy Spirit. Then then we read,
you know, we read some

2987
03:07:47,250 --> 03:07:51,780
scripture. And I gotta tell you,
you know, I'll read like a

2988
03:07:51,780 --> 03:07:54,330
devotional, I'm like, Okay, let
me see where that comes from.

2989
03:07:54,540 --> 03:07:57,330
And I'll just go and read that
piece. And man, it puts me in

2990
03:07:57,330 --> 03:08:00,630
the right mood, then I can I can
tackle any of it. You so right

2991
03:08:00,660 --> 03:08:03,630
doing that from the minute you
get up getting jacked in. I

2992
03:08:03,630 --> 03:08:07,860
mean, it's there you go 100%
matrix, that that's what they

2993
03:08:07,860 --> 03:08:12,000
want. The matrix is real. It's
not it's the depiction was

2994
03:08:12,000 --> 03:08:16,770
science fiction. But it really
is real. And the best way to

2995
03:08:16,770 --> 03:08:20,640
protect yourself is to not
connect or connect with caution.

2996
03:08:21,390 --> 03:08:21,900
Correct.

2997
03:08:22,620 --> 03:08:25,980
Unknown: decide to become a
professional at your business.

2998
03:08:26,520 --> 03:08:31,080
You see, we can either compete
or create. If we compete with

2999
03:08:31,080 --> 03:08:33,960
all the other people in our line
of work, we must be willing to

3000
03:08:33,960 --> 03:08:37,950
accept the same rewards, if
that's what we want fine. But if

3001
03:08:37,950 --> 03:08:41,250
we want to become professionals
of what we do, then we must

3002
03:08:41,280 --> 03:08:45,030
create. And when we begin to do
this, there is no limit to that

3003
03:08:45,030 --> 03:08:48,420
which we can achieve. We hear a
lot these days about a word

3004
03:08:48,420 --> 03:08:53,160
called security. Everyone wants
security, but not one in 10 can

3005
03:08:53,160 --> 03:08:56,190
tell you what it is. Most people
will tell you that security

3006
03:08:56,190 --> 03:09:00,030
risks with a job. This is
impossible. There is no such

3007
03:09:00,030 --> 03:09:04,380
thing as a job that represents
security. Anyone with a job can

3008
03:09:04,380 --> 03:09:09,780
lose it for any one of 1000
reasons at any time. There is

3009
03:09:09,780 --> 03:09:14,220
only one place on earth you can
find security and if it isn't

3010
03:09:14,220 --> 03:09:18,930
there, it isn't anywhere it's
inside of a person

3011
03:09:20,100 --> 03:09:21,480
Adam Curry: yeah this guy so
good.

3012
03:09:23,490 --> 03:09:24,600
Unknown: I love that voice

3013
03:09:25,230 --> 03:09:31,830
security constant with an and me
you have a conversation I was

3014
03:09:31,830 --> 03:09:36,690
like oh no what I want to do you
know saying like is is starting

3015
03:09:36,690 --> 03:09:42,270
over? is a scary thought. And
you want to go back to what are

3016
03:09:42,270 --> 03:09:47,070
secure but it only confirmed the
fact that what you consider is

3017
03:09:47,070 --> 03:09:50,790
secure isn't is smoking mirrors
you lived in that you lived it

3018
03:09:50,790 --> 03:09:54,930
yourself personally, right?
Because if I wouldn't either

3019
03:09:54,930 --> 03:09:59,340
kowtow out or no didn't strike
out when I did and I will still

3020
03:09:59,340 --> 03:10:03,300
be there. was very point one
year later almost to the date, I

3021
03:10:03,300 --> 03:10:05,160
would have been the same as that
position.

3022
03:10:05,970 --> 03:10:08,670
Adam Curry: Yeah, would have
been a lot, a lot less, it would

3023
03:10:08,670 --> 03:10:10,770
have been shittier. Right and

3024
03:10:10,770 --> 03:10:15,600
Unknown: much right. Now that's
true, that is true. So here's

3025
03:10:15,600 --> 03:10:20,310
the last and final clip. But I'm
saying this is for all people

3026
03:10:20,310 --> 03:10:27,210
out there, do what you love to
do be proactive. My suggestion

3027
03:10:27,210 --> 03:10:30,840
and practice the seven habits.
And the first one is be

3028
03:10:30,840 --> 03:10:35,130
proactive, because we all have a
talent, we all have a skill. You

3029
03:10:35,130 --> 03:10:37,650
just have to believe in
yourself. And it's not mumbo

3030
03:10:37,650 --> 03:10:41,430
jumbo. But you have to get your
mind set on that thought. Now,

3031
03:10:41,460 --> 03:10:47,070
because before that a year ago
came, it was many, many years

3032
03:10:47,070 --> 03:10:49,740
and years before that the
thought of I need to be doing

3033
03:10:49,740 --> 03:10:55,470
something else. But just
figuring out what it was. So we

3034
03:10:55,470 --> 03:10:57,000
can get to the last clip now.

3035
03:10:57,450 --> 03:11:01,530
There is only one place on
Earth, you can find security.

3036
03:11:01,620 --> 03:11:06,390
And if it isn't there, it isn't
anywhere. It's inside of a

3037
03:11:06,390 --> 03:11:11,160
prison. Never outside. If a man
has security inside where it

3038
03:11:11,160 --> 03:11:14,640
belongs, his wife and children
can feel it when he sits down to

3039
03:11:14,640 --> 03:11:17,700
eat with them. And they're
warmed by it. If a man has

3040
03:11:17,700 --> 03:11:20,250
security inside where it
belongs, you can see it walking

3041
03:11:20,250 --> 03:11:22,920
down the street. And you can
feel it when he enters a room

3042
03:11:23,130 --> 03:11:26,520
that security and you can't take
it away from him. You can take

3043
03:11:26,520 --> 03:11:29,010
away his money, his home
everything but a wife who's

3044
03:11:29,010 --> 03:11:31,830
willing to start over and most
of them are and drop him

3045
03:11:31,830 --> 03:11:34,830
anywhere in the country go back
in a year and he'd be doing just

3046
03:11:34,830 --> 03:11:37,860
as well as when you found him
the first time. You can't keep a

3047
03:11:37,860 --> 03:11:41,520
good man down. No matter what
you do to him, like cream on

3048
03:11:41,520 --> 03:11:44,490
milk. You can shake it all day,
but just set it down for a while

3049
03:11:44,490 --> 03:11:47,910
and it'll bump right to the top
again. This man or this woman

3050
03:11:48,150 --> 03:11:51,900
has security where it belongs.
And you know where it comes

3051
03:11:51,900 --> 03:11:56,940
from? It comes from doing what
we do for a living surpassingly

3052
03:11:56,940 --> 03:12:02,190
Well, it comes from being a pro
in a world of amateurs.

3053
03:12:03,240 --> 03:12:08,430
Adam Curry: Yes, exactly. Pro in
a world of amateurs.

3054
03:12:10,050 --> 03:12:15,420
Unknown: So that's my show.
Hopefully you enjoyed it. It was

3055
03:12:15,480 --> 03:12:21,180
no just a quick examination of
what controls our thoughts and

3056
03:12:21,180 --> 03:12:25,860
we got to take control back from
Yes.

3057
03:12:27,300 --> 03:12:29,880
Adam Curry: Oh man, that was
good. Yeah, hold on. Hold on. I

3058
03:12:29,880 --> 03:12:33,390
just want to say thank you
Eclass I love that shirt it

3059
03:12:33,390 --> 03:12:37,080
turned everything around and we
will keep our eye on on the

3060
03:12:37,080 --> 03:12:40,800
Crowder situation I have a
little bit of internal insight

3061
03:12:42,540 --> 03:12:45,600
but you know never a boring
moment that's for sure my

3062
03:12:45,600 --> 03:12:49,260
appreciate this man as always
you've done it I'm so happy that

3063
03:12:49,650 --> 03:12:53,880
we took the extra time and then
you know time was robbed and

3064
03:12:53,880 --> 03:12:57,450
we're back and here we are at
another mo faction the can

3065
03:12:58,710 --> 03:13:02,760
Unknown: another one done and as
I always say pay attention to

3066
03:13:02,760 --> 03:13:05,760
everything and the true reveal
itself will talk

3067
03:13:05,760 --> 03:13:07,830
to you soon Mel tardy later

3068
03:13:35,610 --> 03:13:36,150
last

3069
03:13:48,420 --> 03:13:50,070
lipstick on his collar

3070
03:14:11,280 --> 03:14:12,000
Brian.

3071
03:14:47,250 --> 03:14:52,380
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