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More facts with Adam curry for
December 30 2022 Episode number

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88. We're waving goodbye to 2022
in welcoming the new year with

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fresh facts. I'm Adam curry
coming to you from the heart of

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the Texas Hill Country time once
again to spin the Wheel of

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topics from here to Northern
Virginia. Please say hello to my

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friend on the other end. Ladies
and gentlemen, Mr. Moe facts How

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you doing Adam? I am doing good.
I'm loving the I'm loving the

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band man. I'm a big fan of of
high school and college bands

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that Did you know that?

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I did not know that. But this is
the sonic boom one of the South

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Jackson State University.

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This you know it I don't know
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but I think I was like 15 or 16.
I was growing up in the

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Netherlands. And I first heard
my first like drum cadence. And

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I was like, Oh, I love this. And
then I remember in 1970 Alright,

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he's a good boy. Like maybe 1978
Or No way What was the

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bicentennial? 76 We went back
to, we came on vacation from the

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Netherlands to the states. And
it was big was the big

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bicentennial celebration. 200
years of America. And the two

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things I really love was
watching the drill team. Now,

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the drill team March and then
throw in the rifles back and

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forth, or the drill sergeant
walks in between. But then I

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heard this this band. And they
did the theme from Entertainment

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Tonight. And I was like oh my
god, that's doo doo doo doo doo

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doo. They were just jamming
around like I was looking at I

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listened to them for I've often
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appreciative of that.

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I did not know that. But that's,
that's a it's a little great.

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You enjoy it? No, no, no, it's
great. Because according to the

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show, what the top is going to
be when you want to spin the

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wheel and the second, the band
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Excellent. Excellent. So we're
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going to end somewhere else as
we always do. So we want to go

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ahead and spin that wheel. I'm
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crank it up. It's so good to be
back to have Moe back and we're

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going to spin that round around
where it stops. Nobody knows

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most No, of course because the
topic for today mo Fache with

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Adam curry episode 88.

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I think they'll get in here but
I don't know how long they'll

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lay up after they do get in
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Okay, cryptic, cryptic.

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Well, we're starting that is the
Jerry Jones, the photo from the

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Washington Post. Excuse me. I
don't know if you heard about

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that. It's be odd if you didn't,
because you live in Texas. And

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we're going to end up in with
primetime, aka coach prom Deion

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Sanders. And it's going to be an
exciting trip, how we start

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they're in where we're going to
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What's interesting is I know
almost nothing about sports. So

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whatever you're talking about, I
completely miss that. I'm sure

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it's some. Some team owner or
coach being racist. That's

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usually what the stories are
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That's That's

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great guest Deion Sanders. Did
he not play for a New York team?

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No, he played for Atlanta. And
in San Francisco, then Dallas,

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and then he went it bounced
around to Washington Redskins,

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which hurts my stomach to say
that. And I think he ended up in

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Baltimore. But he did play
baseball in New York. If I'm not

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mistaken, yes.

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Because I met him. And I met him
at the radio station at z 100.

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Surprise, right. And I and I'm
like I knew was playing for New

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York team. This was a lot this
was in maybe late 80s 90s. Does

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that make sense?

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He was one of those athletes
that could play multiple sports

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and we're going to be your
barbell

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golf. All that stuff. Okay,
cool. All right, I'm ready for

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less.

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Let's jump right into as you
accurately against the takedown

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of Jerry Jones.

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This is a fascinating piece of
reporting. We're going to talk

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about now we're gonna start with
this photo is from September

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9 1957. And it shows Dallas
Cowboys owner Jerry Jones among

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a crowd of white students trying
to keep black students from

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integrating at an Arkansas High
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Post's reporting reports that
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could be seen standing a few
yards from where the six black

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students were being jostled and
repelled with snarling racial

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slurs by ringleaders of the mob.
So joining us now sports and

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feature columnist at the
Washington Post, SALLY JENKINS,

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gonna have to commend you and
your reporting this whole thing

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is right. I mean, it's stunning.
It's fascinating. So so let's

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start with a picture of And then
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could have sort of moved
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the NFL and in sports. Let's
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though. What did what did you?
What did you learn about this

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for from this photograph?

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Well, I think the first thing
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widespread the segregationists
were in Little Rock and North

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Little Rock.

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Wait a minute, wait. Anyway,
this is from a photo from when

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he was 14. Yes. Then the man is
now what 85?

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I believe so.

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Oh, I love how Oh, excellent
work. Oh, yeah. You really dug

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up a doozy here, everybody.
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well, we're gonna jump right
into it because I gotta lay out

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my theory of what what how this
transpired, the timing of it.

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Everything. This was a strategic
attack on Jerry Jones. Now, for

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all for full disclosure. I'm a
Cowboys. I'm careful with this

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word fan, because I'm not a
fanatic. But I don't like

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support or whatever you were
saying some goofy were like

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that. I've been a Cowboys quote
unquote fan. Since about three

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or four years old, and my
grandpa bought me a Dallas

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Cowboys trash can. And we sit
down and watch the game

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together. You know, because I
went to my grandparents on every

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weekend just about so I was
there watching football with

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him. So sports, as we're gonna
see throughout this episode, has

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a very weird relationship when
it comes to race, horse

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ownership and all that thing.
But that to my theory, this

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photo dropped from the
Washington Post on Thanksgiving

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Day, around things before it
right before Thanksgiving, which

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everybody knows Cowboys take
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Exactly. Now even I know that,

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right? Of course, you will meet
him saying you know about media

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and this cowboys is America's
team. Everybody sits around with

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a stomach full of Turkey and
watch ours fall asleep while

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watching the Cowboys play. It's
like it's the American

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tradition. And I don't know if
you know this or not. The Dallas

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Cowboys is called America's
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I knew that I live in Texas. Of
course. I know some things. Yes.

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I would just want I want to make
sure. I don't want to make no

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please,

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please keep asking me stuff like
that. Because this is pretty

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much the only thing I know that
my knowledge stops around here.

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Well, I'm gonna tell you about a
takedown, which you know all

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about. Enter Bezos. Bezos is
trying to buy an NFL team.

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Right. Oh, I

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didn't know that. I mean, it
makes sense. That was that's

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what most billionaires seem to
like to do. And I have no idea

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why but okay, and

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what costs if you ever seen you
saw billions, right? Yeah. That

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that the scene in there where
Axelrod tried to buy the NFL

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team. Yeah. He said this is
American royalty. Owning a foot

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on the football team is like
being knighted?

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Yeah, I remember. Yes. I do
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interesting because is that
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that really what the
billionaires all think? Oh, of

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course, it's interest of course.
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now what scene was he trying to
buy? There? Were saying that he

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was trying to buy the Washington
commanders which used to be the

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watch to raise money

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known as the Redskins. That was
my my parents team by the way

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the Redskins were my parents
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Well, that's strange. This you
Redskins fan by by, by

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inheritance. And I'm a Cowboys
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TV show. It'll

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switch through there. Now that
I'm in Texas, things are

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different. Yeah.

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So going back. The reporting
story was he was trying to buy

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the Washington commanders with
Jay Z. Okay, as a part ally, as

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a part owner, which know how
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that's that's how you get the
new stadium JC gets to 0.3% He

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pretends like he's an owner, and
then we do no sport and then we

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verify the whole place,
actually, well, I do know Ted

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leonsis, who's the owner of the
what's the hockey team in

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Washington, the capitals, the
capitals, so and yeah, I know

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this guy pretty well. And yeah,
it is definitely a royalty thing

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that I think about it. Yeah.

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Well, Snyder has been quoted as
saying I have because they tried

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to get Snyder out of here. They
done this with the owner,

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Richardson down in Carolina,
which they were saying with the

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Me too. So they've been trying
to get Snyder out of there. But

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you know, he's had things with
cheerleaders and this obviously,

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I had to lay it all out so you
can see it for the last while

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saying

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that's what I get these teams
cheerleaders. Of course, that

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makes sense.

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So Snyder says, I got dirt on
all the owners. Here comes Bezos

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paper with a picture of Jerry
Jones. Because if Bezos is going

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to buy a team, trust me, it
would rather be the Dallas

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Cowboys, which is the preeminent
sports team up all teams, not

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just football, oh, all teams,

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if you want to be royalty, you
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the, to the top of the pack.
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And Jerry Jones is the king of
the NFL. So let's I'm laying it

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all out and how this all this
quote unquote what I call an

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attack happened. But we got to
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why that photo was so triggering
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used. You know, like I said, I
just find it funny that Jerry

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Jones actually sat down with the
Washington Post voluntarily, and

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did this whole you know, about
black ownership in the NFL, you

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know, you know, racing sports
kind of thing, and they double

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crossed him with this photo.

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Jerry Jones, his faceful was
North Little Rock, which was

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across the Arkansas River from
Central High School, which is

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the school that got all of the
attention. When Eisenhower sent

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in federal troops to protect the
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over there. But the
segregationist agitators were

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actually very active on both
sites. And the fact that we knew

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that generationally, Jerry Jones
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events in Little Rock more
generally, but to find him in

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the photograph, and to learn
that he experienced one of those

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incidents, right on the
schoolhouse steps, was pretty

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revelatory. We were blown away,
to put it mildly.

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Let me ask you about this
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because he is saying he's using
thing you know, I was just

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there. I wasn't participating. I
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observe. But the with the
photograph with you guys, as you

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point out in your reporting, is
that in order to get where he

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was at the top of those stairs,
that he had to get up there

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pretty quickly, and those were
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keeping the black students from
entering? Does it say anything

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about his participation? Are you
making any sort of judgment

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about it? Or

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let me let me make a little
judgment first, I'm looking at

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this picture. I'm looking at
this picture. He looks like a

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doofus standing in the back like
hey, what's going on here?

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Doesn't he's not at the front.
He's not the guy at the front

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looks like a mean mofo.

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Well, he was he was a young,
younger player in high school.

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So that's one thing. But I'm
just saying that it's not Yeah,

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it's not important. The
important The important thing is

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he's there in Arkansas in 1957.
When you know what happened in

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57, all across town at the other
high school. That's when they

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had, you know, forcing kids into
I think it's called Central

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High, if I'm not mistaken. Yes,
Central High. So he's over at

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this other school. And they're
like, hey, look, Jerry Jones was

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doing the same thing that's
happened over Central High at

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his high school, which puts
pressure on him into the

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interjects race into the
conversation, which they want

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Jerry Jones out of there. And
it's like I said, and I'm

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thinking this is just my cow.
Look at it Washington Post Bezos

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trying to buy a team. I don't
really want Washington's team

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because like you said, you got
to deal with the politicians in

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Washington. Yeah. You know,
where we want to have the

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stadium this has been the Snyder
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the name is probably you know,
they had the Redskins they

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change it to the what does it
command man? There's so many

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things the city name, you know,
it's like, Who wants a team with

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everyone thinks you're gonna
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the rest of that we're I would,
I can't ever think of them as

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commanders.

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I totally agree. But I'm just
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And when I saw this, I was like,
on Thanksgiving Day. And, you

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know, because yeah, so this is
the whole setup. So you kind of

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see what's going down here.
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Wow, this is great reporting. We
got this picture. This is

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fantastic. By the way, general
observation. The white students

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here, they all got blue jeans on
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dressed to the T in this. It's
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That's makes me think about what
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coming over when you had Yes,

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yes, yes, exactly. Yeah,

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you have to dress to impress,
you have to look the part. That

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was that was the main thing. So
now we're gonna get into Jerry

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Jones response and that attack,
quote, unquote, when I say

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attack, I'm talking about the
strategic plan to put him on the

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hot seat on his day. I mean,
like Thanksgiving Day as his

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Christmas, it because he used to
put his big stadium or showcase

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America's team or showcase. And
he asked to answer questions

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like this. And clip for Jerry.
It's also

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in the Washington Post article
in how the picture they paint a

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view from a picture

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when you were 14 years old,
yeah. That was, gosh, 6065 years

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ago and curious kid didn't know
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really that was that was going
on, and I'm sure glad that we're

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a long way from that. I am. And
we just would that would remind

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me He just continued to do
everything we can to not have

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those kinds of things happen

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in your grids just being in the
photo being there at all. Any

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regrets on being in the photo
being there at all?

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Well, I didn't know. I wouldn't
have just dug that up, for sure.

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And seriously, but that was
curiously, I got criticized

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because I was more interested in
how I was going to be punished

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by my coaches and everybody for
being out front. But nobody

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there had any idea, frankly,
what was going to take place?

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You didn't. We didn't have all
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and all the things that were
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a reference point. They're still
up. I've got a habit of sticking

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his nose to my place at the
wrong time.

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Ooh, Mr. Jones, you have no idea
what's coming down the pike.

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Clearly. He had no idea. What is
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No, he has a lot of protectors
in the media. Because he is like

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I said the king of the NFL.
Yeah. And NFL is the king of all

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television shows in America. No
doubt. Would you agree? I mean,

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not yet enough for me. Yes,
because I, I always watch the

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Super Bowl. So right there. It's
just a media event. I love how

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it's I love how it's put
together. I will say I also

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watch a good bit of soccer. I do
like the soccer. But when it

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comes to American television
made for the commercials

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football is your game.

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That and that's the point is is
not like basketball is constant

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flowing. You could stop the game
anytime you want to is great.

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It's great for advertisement.
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our tradition, even with the
imagery and you know that we got

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to get to lighter. Um, and you
know, with the whole race thing

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is sitting down with your
grandfather, your fathers, your

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brothers, your uncle's watching
the game. I think I bought I

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think I've mentioned this
before, but when I was growing

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up in the Netherlands, you know,
that you couldn't get obviously

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EMEA, there's two channels, they
were not going to show football,

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the Americans, the American
Women's Club of Amsterdam, the

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which is just a data library and
other things. They had Game of

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the Week, brought to you by
American Express, and they'd

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have done that. And it was on
film. And my dad and I would go

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on, I don't know, maybe Monday
night or Tuesday night, and we

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go watch the highlight reel that
was sent from America. And I

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remember thinking like, was so
cool, because they had snow,

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snow games, and drying, they do
the slow mo and I just be like,

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Wow, this is so amazing. It
wasn't I didn't understand much

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of the game really. At the time.
I was very young. But I remember

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how impactful that was. And it
just it was a cool thing to

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watch.

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It's the way it's shot. Yeah,
NFL has hundreds of cameras.

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Yeah, one game getting every
angle. And now we fast forward

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to introducing the modern day. I
mean, you they're tracking the

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balding answers in the ball.
Tell me how I got fast guys are

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running. Yeah. What's the odds
of them making plays? And this

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and that. And And speaking of
eyes, it's a huge gambling

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sport. Yes. Which is gambling.
If you have if you watch TV now,

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you see gambling is wide open.
Um, and you know, across the

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United States, I think there's
some states that don't allow

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gambling, but for the most part,
gambling has been a huge part

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of, you know, the growth of
sports. We'd like to start in

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with fantasy

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sports betting is what we prefer
to say, well, we don't like

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saying gambling and sports
betting. Okay. Before

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I get you politically correct,
yeah. But yeah, so this is this

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is, this is sports and the fact
like I said he had to answer

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these questions after his
cowboys had ticket centerstage

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on Thanksgiving, instead of
talking about well, he likes to

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talk about the Cowboys. And he's
had run ins with race because

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when the whole Kaepernick take a
knee thing, he told his players

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we're gonna do what's best for
business. We're gonna make a

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business decision here. Right,
and we're in the show you just

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the force of Kaepernick, he even
had to come out and make a pivot

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to take a knee with his players.
And that kind of like, showed

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the force of Nike and all these
other forces that was trying to

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take out in the NFL. Right,
right. So I guess we can go and

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get to the second part of him
being interrogated. Part Two.

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Did you get did you get in
trouble with your coach or being

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ushered in? What was the
punishment? Well,

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you know, I was young sophomore
trying to make the team and they

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kicked my ass,

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Gary, Gary, he came up to Little
Rock situation, and Little Rock

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Central. All right. That photo
on there An incident

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excuse me that

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came after the situation in
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Well, that was North Little Rock
Ranch was literally just two or

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three miles away. It wasn't the
same day A Little Rock Central

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that came when, as I recall, as
I recall, it was certainly in

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proximity with it. Those were
certainly the issues that were

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going on, but did not have the
structure that was not the event

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at the central thing.

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Oh, that's interesting. I think
now he's figured it out in this

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interview was like, Oh, they got
something here. That's tread

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lightly. Yeah.

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And speaking of treading lightly
notice the reporters are trading

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light. Because you're talking to
a guy that can get you sick or

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sent you to the covering
stadium.

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Yeah, go ahead, go

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cover No, no, not kick. You have
you covered water polo in

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Siberia somewhere. If you step
on the wrong thing, and Jerry

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Jones had a lot of people come
out and protect him. You know,

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after the fallout happened, one
being Steven a Smith. And I

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could have went that way in the
show. But I really didn't want

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to go to I want to understand
people to understand how this

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attack word. I mean, the
mechanics of it. Like, like, now

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when he's bringing us Central
High even you notice like, oh,

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okay, yeah, by this is bigger
than just me being over my high

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school. You're trying to make me
the face of racism in the south

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in the 1950s.

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And so again, the premise here
is that this is a targeted

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attack by Bezos owner of The
Washington Post who wants to own

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a team and met with that as the
backdrop this is already, you

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know, clip five, I'm already
outraged what's going on? That's

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crazy.

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So I just I just want I just
want to lay that out for people.

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And like I said, he has noted
for Jerry Gerald, because he has

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the, the money and the power to
protect himself. But I, like I

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said, always want to look at
what the plays like. Why is this

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happening? Why is it happening
now? Oh, the Washington Post.

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That's interesting. And you see
a little nuggets, all Jay Z and

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Bezos trying to buy a team. And
what I tried to do is connect

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all this together one more
thing, before we move on. Notice

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his coaches that got he got in
trouble with his coaches kicked

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his. Yeah. Why would he get in
trouble with his coaches? Who

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were asking that question later?
Yeah, because coaches are trying

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to get the best talent. I'm just
gonna leave it there. They're

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trying to get the best talent no
matter where it comes from.

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Haha. I got you. And maybe
that's why the players were up

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there protesting because they
felt there some better flowers

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were coming in. Yeah, exactly.
So the reporters went a little

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too far in this next clip. And I
want you to just to pick up when

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a billionaire has had enough

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to do you understand the
perception that people have

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standing there? Because that was
not exactly a welcoming

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committee

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that? I sure do. And I'm
understanding that. Just

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understand it. Yes.

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So for the people that look at
that and say you were a part of

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that. And you're saying you were
curious. And other people were

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saying, Well, this was a crowd,
basically, you know, look, look,

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left six, five years ago, right
down, and I had no idea would

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have walked up there what we
were doing. And it just is a

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reminder to me of have improved
and do things the right way.

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So what did you think of the
crowd who these kids were just

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trying to go to school? There's
a whole lot of people that have

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a lot of hostility towards us.

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Yeah. Were you want to ask me
what I was thinking? Okay, I was

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thinking about, I won't get in
trouble for being up here. And I

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didn't know what was going on.
And I was 15 years old. And so

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having said that, that's, that's
that's all that I can remember.

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Okay.

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I gotta say something about this
in the picture. This picture

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though, it's from every all of
you, because you're seeing

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cameras behind cameras in front,
it's an elevated shot from

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above. This thing reminds me
because a picture is just a

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moment in time. Right? Right.
And you can, you can make up any

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story you want. And when I see
this picture, black and white,

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for some reason, the time of
course, the quality of the

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photo. It reminds me of Jack
Ruby shooting Harvey Oswald

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in like in your I'm glad you
picked up on that because these

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weren't his kids that showed up
and say, hey, I want to go to

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your high school. No, this goes
all the way back to Brown versus

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Board of Education. We talked
about that on a previous show,

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and how all that was
orchestrated the right kids were

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selected the right case, the
right place. This was just a

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continuation of that. it and I
believe this was a, you know, a

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dry ruin. But what was going to
happen over Central High?

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Okay, yeah. And well, again,
coincidence that this, this is

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different from all the press
that is standing, this is from

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above and the top, it's showing
everything you'd want to see to

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build this story. Interesting.
Interesting.

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And where did this picture come
from? I mean, you know, that's

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the that's the real question
that nobody really answered. Is,

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did Daniel Smith, is this
someone that dirt? And I have no

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answer this question I'm about
to ask. But I have to ask it.

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Did Daniel Snyder have access to
this picture? And Barter is

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like, Hey, I got a bigger fish
for you. You know, if you don't

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want to buy my team. Bezos is
like who much rather have the

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preeminent team, then all the
team with all the political

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baggage and problems? Yeah,
right. They come with it. And

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this last day of Schneider live,
they were saying to see another

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day. I'm just I'm just laying it
out there. But what we got to do

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now is get the background of the
picture, we're going to these

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next few clips will
contextualize the environment of

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what was going on in little
Little Rock, Arkansas in 1957.

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So this is a history report
History Channel report. And this

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is Ernest Green, one of the
class of 58, a black one, the

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black students speaking helmets,

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an event that forever altered
the course of race relations in

443
00:26:26,699 --> 00:26:31,379
America. As our image reveals
itself, the 1957 school year is

444
00:26:31,379 --> 00:26:35,309
about to begin. And an angry mob
is trying to stop nine black

445
00:26:35,309 --> 00:26:39,029
students from entering Central
High in Little Rock, Arkansas.

446
00:26:47,970 --> 00:26:53,790
Question I usually get asked is,
where are we scared? I think

447
00:26:53,790 --> 00:26:59,430
initially, we didn't anticipate
clearly all of the violence and

448
00:26:59,430 --> 00:27:05,310
turmoil that occurred. First day
that we attempted to go to

449
00:27:05,310 --> 00:27:09,870
school, eight of us were at one
part of the school and Elizabeth

450
00:27:09,870 --> 00:27:13,770
Eckford was another part. And
there was a mob that followed

451
00:27:13,770 --> 00:27:20,250
Elizabeth then you began to feel
that this was a very hostile

452
00:27:20,250 --> 00:27:28,530
violent group of people. Even at
that point, I told myself that

453
00:27:28,530 --> 00:27:33,480
if we didn't go through with it
didn't attend Central and backed

454
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:38,880
out. It would just reinforce the
view that the African American

455
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:43,410
community and Little Rock wasn't
interested and making a change

456
00:27:43,410 --> 00:27:43,980
in things.

457
00:27:48,450 --> 00:27:49,950
Highlighted trauma bass music,

458
00:27:50,069 --> 00:27:53,189
yep. Very good. Where's that?
Where's that from

459
00:27:53,250 --> 00:27:54,060
History Channel.

460
00:27:54,089 --> 00:27:58,289
Now? Of course, hello. William P
straighter. Was the photographer

461
00:27:58,289 --> 00:27:58,949
apparently.

462
00:27:59,700 --> 00:28:00,990
Okay. Um,

463
00:28:01,049 --> 00:28:03,899
I don't know if I can find that.
It has no real information on

464
00:28:03,899 --> 00:28:09,389
him. But yeah, you're fine. He
was Associated Press. He was an

465
00:28:09,389 --> 00:28:11,309
AP reporter. Interesting.

466
00:28:12,089 --> 00:28:17,879
Yeah. So so now we got this set
up. We have the essential, the

467
00:28:17,879 --> 00:28:21,239
Little Rock Nine. And like I
said, one of the ones got

468
00:28:21,239 --> 00:28:25,469
separated and one in eight. And
they got together, they finally

469
00:28:25,469 --> 00:28:28,619
mates together. And this is what
this is what they met, trying to

470
00:28:28,619 --> 00:28:31,169
get into school. So you want to
continue on and the question is,

471
00:28:31,169 --> 00:28:32,099
yeah, no, no, no,

472
00:28:32,099 --> 00:28:34,799
I'm good. Let's keep rolling. I
got the next few traumatized.

473
00:28:34,829 --> 00:28:37,799
Yeah. All right, traumatize me
people.

474
00:28:40,259 --> 00:28:45,959
Nice. During the 1950s African
Americans throughout the country

475
00:28:45,959 --> 00:28:54,959
were trying to make their voices
heard. We've Alabama, now

476
00:28:54,960 --> 00:29:00,390
and will continue to carry on
our mass protests. To drive

477
00:29:00,900 --> 00:29:05,190
demand that I get to see the
fight man didn't do that I was

478
00:29:05,190 --> 00:29:08,190
being treated as a human being I
refuse to give up this

479
00:29:11,700 --> 00:29:15,420
little rock was a year after the
Montgomery bus boycott. So we

480
00:29:15,420 --> 00:29:22,080
had seen the impact of Rosa
Parks and the beginning of Dr.

481
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:26,010
King's Korea and knew that
things could change.

482
00:29:34,170 --> 00:29:37,860
Man, that's some good trauma
music. That's a great man.

483
00:29:38,339 --> 00:29:42,959
They had all the triggers in
their MLK yo, Rosa Parks, which

484
00:29:42,959 --> 00:29:47,639
we spoke about. We spoke about
Rosa Parks and the whole of that

485
00:29:47,639 --> 00:29:48,929
she was in Tennessee.

486
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:52,350
Yeah, there was a she was a
Hollywood version of the real

487
00:29:52,350 --> 00:29:52,770
thing.

488
00:29:53,339 --> 00:29:57,059
Well, and speaking of which,
we're not gonna go too far down

489
00:29:57,059 --> 00:30:01,589
for down too far down this
rabbit hole. But yeh got himself

490
00:30:01,589 --> 00:30:04,559
in some trouble other than what
he was already

491
00:30:05,849 --> 00:30:07,769
telling me he got in some
trouble I hadn't heard about

492
00:30:07,769 --> 00:30:08,909
that and you had to bring Yeah.

493
00:30:10,259 --> 00:30:14,669
Reporting thing but he he made a
statement saying he rose apart

494
00:30:14,669 --> 00:30:21,449
was a plant which Yes, yes. How
kya it says it you're saying can

495
00:30:21,449 --> 00:30:24,809
be very triggering but we talked
about this in her relationship

496
00:30:25,019 --> 00:30:30,239
with her I forget the family's
name, but it went back to Hugo

497
00:30:30,239 --> 00:30:34,649
Black, who was a Supreme Court
justice and the lawyer that were

498
00:30:34,649 --> 00:30:38,339
behind her so yeah, if you're
listening just don't be a

499
00:30:38,339 --> 00:30:39,719
deadbeat brother you will say
like

500
00:30:40,950 --> 00:30:44,910
I was so bad with yeas comment
that I saw articles appearing

501
00:30:44,910 --> 00:30:47,910
reaffirming how legit Rosa Parks
was.

502
00:30:48,420 --> 00:30:53,130
Right and it's it I would like
to give a big shout out to Elvis

503
00:30:53,130 --> 00:30:57,180
to the shelf Rosenberg because
he gave a consistent producer on

504
00:30:57,180 --> 00:31:01,140
the show. He actually was
sending people to our to the

505
00:31:01,140 --> 00:31:04,680
show we did dream machine, but
you need to watch the comments

506
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,620
section everywhere. And he gave
us a big shout out on his show.

507
00:31:07,620 --> 00:31:10,020
So I just want to stop the show.
You're saying thank you for

508
00:31:10,020 --> 00:31:13,050
promote promoting. What we're
doing over

509
00:31:13,049 --> 00:31:15,449
here is and if anyone's
interested, I'll put some links

510
00:31:15,449 --> 00:31:17,759
into Claudette Colvin, you might
be interested in that.

511
00:31:18,269 --> 00:31:21,539
Right. So let's go ahead and
wrap up with this, this trauma

512
00:31:21,539 --> 00:31:24,059
based entertainment as we call
it with clip number three.

513
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:31,740
The first step for the Little
Rock Nine came in May 1954, when

514
00:31:31,740 --> 00:31:35,040
the US Supreme Court issued its
opinion in the landmark case,

515
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:40,230
Brown versus the Topeka, Kansas
Board of Education. Separate but

516
00:31:40,230 --> 00:31:44,970
equal was inherently unequal.
And integration was now the law

517
00:31:44,970 --> 00:31:51,000
of the land. In 1957, this
decision and the power of the

518
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:54,300
federal government were tested
in Little Rock, Arkansas.

519
00:31:55,740 --> 00:31:59,520
We didn't at the moment we were
selected, have any idea was

520
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:01,710
going to be as difficult as it
turned out to be

521
00:32:02,940 --> 00:32:05,580
in the face of protest at
Central High School, the

522
00:32:05,580 --> 00:32:09,300
governor of Arkansas, Orville
faultless calls out the National

523
00:32:09,300 --> 00:32:13,050
Guard. His official reasoning is
to preserve the peace and

524
00:32:13,050 --> 00:32:14,070
prevent violence.

525
00:32:16,259 --> 00:32:19,889
It wasn't clearly wasn't to
protect us, it was to make a

526
00:32:19,889 --> 00:32:24,119
symbolic stand. It was to
protect the way of life in the

527
00:32:24,119 --> 00:32:26,759
south, because they borrowed I
entrance.

528
00:32:29,220 --> 00:32:32,880
Alright, so now you see it's a
bigger play going on. Yeah, and

529
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:37,890
this is how they use special
interest groups, race being the

530
00:32:37,890 --> 00:32:43,980
one here, less use controversy
to make bigger change. And this

531
00:32:43,980 --> 00:32:46,980
was really about state rights,
what the federal government

532
00:32:47,190 --> 00:32:50,940
could tell states, right, that
was the bigger play, but they

533
00:32:50,940 --> 00:32:56,580
use, quote unquote, black people
as the battering ram to, you

534
00:32:56,580 --> 00:33:00,120
know, force their way into the
schools. So the state, the

535
00:33:00,150 --> 00:33:03,810
federal government could stretch
their power. Now, when you're

536
00:33:03,810 --> 00:33:05,130
saying and events that power

537
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:08,040
when you say they who are you
referring to, in this case,

538
00:33:09,329 --> 00:33:15,779
the NAACP. And that was one of
the big groups that was backing

539
00:33:15,779 --> 00:33:20,189
now the Little Rock Nine, and
these other liberal operations

540
00:33:20,909 --> 00:33:26,399
that wanted to see the federal
government gaining power. So I'm

541
00:33:26,399 --> 00:33:29,579
gonna do it. Now that you asked
that question. I'm going to do a

542
00:33:29,579 --> 00:33:33,599
quick change on the fly. Let's
listen to 11 first, because

543
00:33:33,599 --> 00:33:37,409
that's as your Orval Faubus, the
governor of Arkansas, and he's

544
00:33:37,409 --> 00:33:39,899
gonna go more into the state
REITs and then we'll come back

545
00:33:39,899 --> 00:33:40,409
to 10

546
00:33:40,559 --> 00:33:49,259
Central. Hi, we are now an
occupied territory. Evidence of

547
00:33:49,259 --> 00:33:55,319
the nekkid force of the federal
government is here apparent in

548
00:33:55,319 --> 00:34:00,719
these and unsheath bayonets in
the backs of school girls, in

549
00:34:00,719 --> 00:34:05,519
the back of students, and in the
bloody face of this railroad

550
00:34:05,519 --> 00:34:10,409
worker, who was bayoneted and
then fell by the bed of a rifle

551
00:34:10,889 --> 00:34:15,809
in the hands of a sergeant of
the United States, a 101st

552
00:34:16,289 --> 00:34:21,839
Airborne Division. That can be
no question of the supremacy of

553
00:34:21,839 --> 00:34:25,199
the United States Army, when
used against a defenseless

554
00:34:25,199 --> 00:34:30,659
state. Therefore, we must
continue our peaceful pursuits

555
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:35,759
of life, being good citizens, as
the overwhelming majority of our

556
00:34:35,759 --> 00:34:40,019
people have always been. I have
been working in fighting for the

557
00:34:40,019 --> 00:34:44,039
right of my people to solve
their problems peacefully. This

558
00:34:44,039 --> 00:34:49,439
as we know requires time and
patience. I shall continue on

559
00:34:49,439 --> 00:34:51,839
relentlessly on this course.

560
00:34:52,230 --> 00:34:54,300
That was at the National Guard
who did that.

561
00:34:54,720 --> 00:34:57,600
Yes, okay. Yeah, it's messed up.

562
00:34:58,380 --> 00:35:03,750
Right. So This was a response
school immigration was a

563
00:35:03,750 --> 00:35:07,710
response to, quote unquote,
black people asking for a

564
00:35:07,710 --> 00:35:10,920
separate but equal. It's like if
you got to school, we want an

565
00:35:10,950 --> 00:35:15,510
identical school, you have x
this edition of a book, we want

566
00:35:15,510 --> 00:35:18,750
that additional book, you know,
same resources, right? It wasn't

567
00:35:18,750 --> 00:35:24,030
the be forced together. Because
one able to do was really and I

568
00:35:24,030 --> 00:35:25,920
got some clips to show that we
talked about it before on the

569
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:30,030
show. To back up my claim. My
father was one of those people.

570
00:35:30,720 --> 00:35:35,820
I've talked about this before
that, um, he was actually, I

571
00:35:35,820 --> 00:35:38,520
guess you would call it bus
because it went bust when he was

572
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:41,430
forced to go to integrate school
his senior year high school.

573
00:35:41,550 --> 00:35:45,090
Yeah. Imagine he and Kamala
Harris, they both had to do

574
00:35:45,090 --> 00:35:45,570
that. Right.

575
00:35:45,660 --> 00:35:52,050
Right. And but the thing was, is
my dad wasn't going forward. He

576
00:35:52,050 --> 00:35:55,620
wasn't with his hands. He went
with his hands elected student.

577
00:35:55,620 --> 00:35:59,070
And this is no slight at the
people that were selected. But

578
00:35:59,070 --> 00:36:01,140
of course, they are selected
people with a certain

579
00:36:01,140 --> 00:36:05,880
disposition to be that could be
spat on and not hit back to you

580
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:09,240
know, they got they got violence
and abuse,

581
00:36:09,270 --> 00:36:12,990
they got they, they audition
them without them knowing it.

582
00:36:13,590 --> 00:36:16,800
Correct. And you had to show the
search correct temperament which

583
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,500
my father did not have the
correct temperament because he

584
00:36:19,500 --> 00:36:24,600
was constantly getting into
brawls at school. Yeah,

585
00:36:24,630 --> 00:36:27,150
I wonder if that was passed down
to you at all? No,

586
00:36:27,150 --> 00:36:28,500
I wonder, I wonder.

587
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:31,200
No rebel hair.

588
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:36,750
I, the fruit doesn't fall far
from the tree. But but at the

589
00:36:36,750 --> 00:36:39,630
same time, he was able to
graduate, you know, but I'm just

590
00:36:39,630 --> 00:36:43,110
saying this is this was forced,
and it's the force thing. So I

591
00:36:43,110 --> 00:36:46,890
have, we're gonna go back to 10
now, and we're gonna lose

592
00:36:46,890 --> 00:36:51,870
himself old, southern white man.
Speak on what how he felt about

593
00:36:51,870 --> 00:36:52,890
the force integration.

594
00:36:54,180 --> 00:36:58,350
Do you think the Negro students
ever will get in here? I think

595
00:36:58,350 --> 00:37:01,140
they'll get in here. But I don't
know how long they'll lay up

596
00:37:01,140 --> 00:37:10,080
after they do get in here at
Monash at Monash because they

597
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:14,190
cannot keep the police out here
always hoping to get in and

598
00:37:14,190 --> 00:37:15,540
finish and you have to start
with

599
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:18,570
or if the President brings in
federal troops.

600
00:37:19,110 --> 00:37:22,170
I don't think the President has
to be under the Constitution,

601
00:37:22,170 --> 00:37:25,080
the president has the authority
to send in federal troops. And

602
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:30,390
last night, I asked that taking
all of the state rights away

603
00:37:30,390 --> 00:37:33,750
from the States when they do I
think like, that's only my

604
00:37:33,750 --> 00:37:34,260
opinion.

605
00:37:34,950 --> 00:37:37,260
Yeah, very appropriate for
today.

606
00:37:38,370 --> 00:37:43,530
Yeah, and that's we've seen more
and more, as we talked about

607
00:37:43,530 --> 00:37:47,280
before, and I said that a lot.
But this covers a lot of the

608
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:51,390
things we talked about with you
having red states and blue

609
00:37:51,390 --> 00:37:55,440
states. But if you didn't think
make something a federal law, it

610
00:37:55,470 --> 00:37:59,910
supersedes what the states
rights cover, which you see with

611
00:38:00,450 --> 00:38:03,510
Roe versus Wade dress well was a
big deal when they say kick it

612
00:38:03,510 --> 00:38:07,530
back to the state, right? It's
constitutional Exactly. Right.

613
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:12,810
They want to codify it to, you
know, federal law. And we've

614
00:38:12,810 --> 00:38:16,650
seen that with the Marriage Act
and those kinds of things.

615
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:19,770
And maybe just a quick reminder
for people that the Constitution

616
00:38:19,770 --> 00:38:22,500
of the United States, many
people don't know this or forget

617
00:38:22,500 --> 00:38:25,320
it. There's a lot of people not
from America, listening to this

618
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:30,120
podcast. The constitution is
literally a document,

619
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:34,560
particularly the Bill of Rights,
all the amendments that that

620
00:38:34,590 --> 00:38:37,920
explains what the federal
government is not allowed to do.

621
00:38:38,610 --> 00:38:41,160
What they're not they it's
really a restriction for the

622
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:44,370
federal government. And if it's
not expressly in the

623
00:38:44,370 --> 00:38:48,390
Constitution, it's all the
state's business. And that, of

624
00:38:48,390 --> 00:38:52,080
course, has been inked. And this
is 1957. We've encroached that

625
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:56,760
so far. It's so far from where
it originally was. But that is

626
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,610
the original, the original deal
of the Federation of the United

627
00:38:59,610 --> 00:39:00,150
States.

628
00:39:00,510 --> 00:39:03,900
Right. And that was the bigger
play for the federal government

629
00:39:03,900 --> 00:39:07,590
to have your have overreach,
where they were using black

630
00:39:07,590 --> 00:39:10,050
students as the battering ram.

631
00:39:10,110 --> 00:39:13,320
Oh, this is good. We've kept on
that tip.

632
00:39:13,860 --> 00:39:16,890
We see that like, Now fast
forward, we're seeing it more

633
00:39:16,890 --> 00:39:22,230
with the LGBT community. It's
like, if you don't want drag

634
00:39:22,230 --> 00:39:25,680
queens, coming to your school
and reading, you know,

635
00:39:25,890 --> 00:39:28,680
something's wrong with you. And
people like, Oh, that's a little

636
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:33,540
bit too far for me. You know,
I'm just showing you the same

637
00:39:33,540 --> 00:39:37,230
play then is the same play now.
And we see the same thing happen

638
00:39:37,230 --> 00:39:40,740
with Jerry Jones. There's a
bigger play, they play on your

639
00:39:40,740 --> 00:39:46,590
ratio, your ratio reflex to you
know, to get emotional when you

640
00:39:46,590 --> 00:39:49,140
that's when you really need to
start thinking it's like okay,

641
00:39:49,140 --> 00:39:51,990
be more critical. Like why do
you want me to feel this way?

642
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:55,290
Why all of a sudden, you know, I
thought this who surprised that

643
00:39:55,290 --> 00:39:59,160
Jerry Jones has some racist
skeletons in his past man. Hey,

644
00:39:59,190 --> 00:40:04,440
you're old At his age, yes,
coming from Arkansas, right. And

645
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:08,640
being raised around people like
the last man speaking. You know,

646
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:10,980
he would like to say I don't I
don't know how long ago we're

647
00:40:11,010 --> 00:40:15,390
gonna be here. They might get
here and he's on camera, say me.

648
00:40:15,390 --> 00:40:19,050
So that just tells you how bold
he is. But of course that didn't

649
00:40:19,050 --> 00:40:20,820
trigger now to the youth would
Adam?

650
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:23,970
No, no kidding.

651
00:40:24,990 --> 00:40:25,920
Number 12

652
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:28,770
is all about. Well, certain
groups have voiced their

653
00:40:28,770 --> 00:40:32,130
opinions that the school should
be reopened even if it's on an

654
00:40:32,130 --> 00:40:35,040
integrated basis. And we just
find that we still have the

655
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:38,100
majority of the people behind us
back and forth on segregated

656
00:40:38,100 --> 00:40:59,610
school you'd rather keep the
school closed and open or

657
00:40:59,610 --> 00:41:01,710
integrated right we're willing
to leave them closed a little

658
00:41:01,710 --> 00:41:04,290
bit longer farmers can help us
and we think he can you're

659
00:41:04,290 --> 00:41:06,690
putting everything on him? Yes.
I'm getting most

660
00:41:06,690 --> 00:41:11,790
of the kids and all the high
school Phyllis way. You think

661
00:41:11,790 --> 00:41:12,930
you can? Do you think you've
been

662
00:41:15,210 --> 00:41:18,120
suppose suppose this were a long
fight? Suppose it meant no

663
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:19,560
school for a year you still feel

664
00:41:25,290 --> 00:41:26,100
wow,

665
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,020
it wasn't just the old folks.

666
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:32,760
Now, what's interesting, though,
and maybe we'll get to this is

667
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:36,270
how we've come around full
circle to the upside down world

668
00:41:36,270 --> 00:41:40,260
where now we have you know,
black groups requesting

669
00:41:40,260 --> 00:41:46,890
segregation, segregation, of of
school of dormitory segregation

670
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:48,210
of all kinds of stuff.

671
00:41:49,050 --> 00:41:52,320
In what it is, is it's a
perversion of separate but equal

672
00:41:52,350 --> 00:41:56,910
Yeah, is that we want to be in
your university and that's great

673
00:41:56,910 --> 00:42:00,480
foreshadow for where we're
headed. But is that we want to

674
00:42:00,690 --> 00:42:07,260
carve out a space and your
institutions, and it's but it's

675
00:42:07,260 --> 00:42:10,830
not as equal but not separate.
It's like we want to be embedded

676
00:42:10,890 --> 00:42:15,690
or equal. I mean, like it's a
weird perversion. Oh, separate

677
00:42:15,690 --> 00:42:18,960
but equal, because we like we
want to be over here. Y'all are

678
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:22,590
over there. If we interact, we
interact but don't force us to

679
00:42:22,590 --> 00:42:27,480
be together because I'm gonna
say it like this being was

680
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:30,510
apparent, man. There's no way
you use my childhood test dummy,

681
00:42:30,750 --> 00:42:34,980
not happening. Now. If he came
to me, Hey, you want your kid to

682
00:42:34,980 --> 00:42:39,660
be go right now? Rather than
stay at the school where they're

683
00:42:39,660 --> 00:42:44,160
at, and not be emotionally
abused and traumatize rather

684
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:49,380
than have some kind of symbolic
victory? And I'm gonna tell you

685
00:42:49,380 --> 00:42:53,550
how far I just gotta get this
get this one story out because

686
00:42:53,580 --> 00:42:59,160
this whole thing surrounded by
my father and night he we were

687
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:02,130
in a place called spindle North
Carolina, but we moved to

688
00:43:02,130 --> 00:43:05,190
Durham, North Carolina. And in
Durham, North Carolina was

689
00:43:05,190 --> 00:43:13,290
Durham high. Durham high in 1959
was integrated. Oh, by Lou Lou

690
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:16,110
Hannon. No, no, no, excuse me.
Let me make sure I get their

691
00:43:16,110 --> 00:43:19,770
name right put respetar name it
was Jocelyn mystic McKissick and

692
00:43:19,770 --> 00:43:26,520
Clotet Bram was caught it That's
a great name. Yeah, they want to

693
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:31,560
be a rebel. Yeah, um, but they
were integrated. The urban

694
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:39,330
legend around Durham is they put
see me in a Olympic sized

695
00:43:39,330 --> 00:43:43,050
swimming pool. Well, I Olympic
depth, somewhat the same size

696
00:43:43,050 --> 00:43:46,950
but a professional type swimming
pool they filled up with see me

697
00:43:46,950 --> 00:43:49,410
instead of letting black kids
swimming, that's the urban

698
00:43:49,410 --> 00:43:57,660
legend. Now there is there is a
picture of the swimming pool,

699
00:43:57,660 --> 00:43:59,970
but the swim pool ain't there no
more. It's I don't know what

700
00:43:59,970 --> 00:44:02,070
happened to it. I don't know how
you get rid of swimming pool,

701
00:44:02,070 --> 00:44:05,670
but I'm just telling you how
these things have life are their

702
00:44:05,670 --> 00:44:10,740
own. And these stories carry on,
you know, like, rather to swim

703
00:44:10,740 --> 00:44:13,800
with black kids, we'd rather not
have a swimming pool. That was

704
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:18,630
the response to integration. Now
going forward, we're gonna go

705
00:44:18,630 --> 00:44:21,900
back going forward, we gotta go
back to the show. 51 that was

706
00:44:21,900 --> 00:44:25,440
civil wrongs. And this was the
gentleman from Farmville

707
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:29,610
speaking on a black man.
Speaking about how he wasn't too

708
00:44:29,610 --> 00:44:31,500
excited to be integrated
himself.

709
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:36,030
When I first heard about
integration and heard that may

710
00:44:36,030 --> 00:44:40,800
possibly one day be the you
know, the way things would go. I

711
00:44:41,250 --> 00:44:45,870
had very mixed feelings about
it. I was no more anxious to

712
00:44:45,870 --> 00:44:49,260
mingle with white people than
I'm sure many of them were

713
00:44:49,290 --> 00:44:52,620
anxious to mingle with me. I
felt the same reservations the

714
00:44:52,620 --> 00:44:57,930
same prejudices I guess I'm they
may as well say that any of them

715
00:44:57,930 --> 00:45:02,520
felt you know. So I was not at
all thrilled over the prospect.

716
00:45:03,210 --> 00:45:08,280
But as time went on, I began to
realize that possibly this was,

717
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:12,660
after all, the only way that the
terrible injustice is could be

718
00:45:12,660 --> 00:45:19,080
somewhat alleviated. And so more
and more, I began to favor the

719
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:22,620
idea of integration. But I think
many black people just decided

720
00:45:22,620 --> 00:45:25,110
they really didn't want any
parts of white people, they

721
00:45:25,110 --> 00:45:28,830
would have preferred if it were,
you know, I've often thought if

722
00:45:28,830 --> 00:45:34,260
separate but equal had been a
reality you'd never had an

723
00:45:34,260 --> 00:45:35,220
integration struggle.

724
00:45:37,740 --> 00:45:41,400
Yeah, this was mo fax 51 If
anyone's looking for the

725
00:45:41,550 --> 00:45:45,540
show, 51 That was our silver
wrongs. So because that we

726
00:45:45,540 --> 00:45:49,110
talked about this before, but we
have to go back revisit it

727
00:45:49,110 --> 00:45:54,300
because we are sick. This is
this. What the spell was leaning

728
00:45:54,300 --> 00:45:58,110
upon that was casted is like,
yeah, what's this trigger up?

729
00:45:58,110 --> 00:46:02,670
That's the Little Rock Nine, tie
Jerry Jones to that. And maybe

730
00:46:02,670 --> 00:46:06,690
we can get some a wedge in
there, to try to force him out

731
00:46:06,690 --> 00:46:12,840
of his out of his team. I'll put
pressure on, you know, or, at

732
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:16,590
least, Bezos would gain more
leverage in this situation.

733
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:20,010
Especially trying to buy a team
with a quote unquote, black

734
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:21,330
owner being Jay Z.

735
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:27,630
And just just a quick thing on
the, on the integration, and we

736
00:46:27,630 --> 00:46:30,480
probably talked about this,
maybe even on 51, where I went

737
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:34,170
to college for exactly one
semester, Salem, West Virginia.

738
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:39,210
And it was 50%, Black 50%,
white. Most people from the East

739
00:46:39,210 --> 00:46:44,280
Coast, the kids are from mainly
south Jersey. And I remember my

740
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:47,040
roommate, Ty Hamilton, I
remember us both looking at each

741
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:51,060
other like, oh, okay, I didn't
even know that he was black. He

742
00:46:51,060 --> 00:46:53,790
probably figured that maybe with
a name like Adam, he didn't

743
00:46:53,790 --> 00:46:56,100
think that I would be white. But
I remember that first day in the

744
00:46:56,100 --> 00:46:59,070
dorm room, like, Oh, hey. And of
course, I wasn't white. I was

745
00:46:59,070 --> 00:47:01,830
from Holland because I pulled up
my boombox and threw on some

746
00:47:01,830 --> 00:47:05,010
Shannon let the music play and
we became friends. And that

747
00:47:05,010 --> 00:47:08,940
really connected us. But I felt,
I definitely felt the tension.

748
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:12,600
And it was real from from both
sides. But then once we

749
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:17,520
connected, it was I was welcomed
equally by black and white

750
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:21,750
students and across the school.
But I remember the tension. And

751
00:47:21,750 --> 00:47:25,110
that was 1982 or 83 years,
something like that.

752
00:47:25,860 --> 00:47:29,580
And another thing that we had to
factor in is that we had a lot

753
00:47:29,580 --> 00:47:34,320
of northerners coming now South
not understanding the politics

754
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:37,620
of the South, right. And you
have to live in the south to

755
00:47:37,620 --> 00:47:42,600
understand the racial politics
of the South. It's a total

756
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:46,530
different experience from being
raised anywhere else. Because

757
00:47:46,530 --> 00:47:51,090
maybe we're too dumb, or too too
brave to leave black people that

758
00:47:51,090 --> 00:47:54,360
are self, you know, however you
want to look at it, because

759
00:47:54,390 --> 00:47:58,260
you're not running me. I'm not,
I come from a lot of people that

760
00:47:58,260 --> 00:48:01,080
didn't, and this is no
disrespect to people that moon

761
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:04,020
door for better opportunities, I
have failed me to do that. But

762
00:48:04,020 --> 00:48:07,800
the ones that stayed, we just
have a different understanding

763
00:48:08,250 --> 00:48:12,540
of racial politics in the South.
Even me being born in 1980.

764
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:19,680
There was just cuz I was raised
by, you know, a black man was

765
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:24,120
born in 1951. Right, you know,
that experience, Jim Crow, and

766
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:27,840
all these things. So, like I
said, they come in and they

767
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:32,280
start pulling out these threads.
But they don't understand the

768
00:48:32,310 --> 00:48:37,320
brunt of the force is going to
end up on their, on the people

769
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:41,490
on there. I hate to use the word
on their operators. I don't

770
00:48:41,490 --> 00:48:45,240
think of it unknowingly,
unknowingly. They're not the

771
00:48:45,240 --> 00:48:47,580
ones gonna take the loan, it's
gonna be the black students to

772
00:48:47,580 --> 00:48:51,660
take the loss in the trauma and
the end. And no, I'm not for

773
00:48:51,660 --> 00:48:54,480
that. Like I said, I'll
reiterate my point, there's no

774
00:48:54,480 --> 00:49:00,180
way in hell my kids would be
taught man experiences some

775
00:49:00,180 --> 00:49:02,640
trauma like that. Yeah, if you
can, if you can shield them from

776
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:07,620
that, of course you will. But we
can't put all the blame of

777
00:49:07,620 --> 00:49:11,280
separate but equal on just the
you know, people that were given

778
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:14,670
the resources. As the gentleman
pointed out, in part two of this

779
00:49:14,670 --> 00:49:19,290
clip, it was also the black
leadership that fail the black

780
00:49:19,290 --> 00:49:19,890
schools,

781
00:49:20,130 --> 00:49:22,260
black people would have been, I
think, would have been very,

782
00:49:22,260 --> 00:49:27,600
very satisfied to maintain but
just make sure it's equal. And

783
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:32,670
that's where the problem are our
mountain high schooler, a joke

784
00:49:32,670 --> 00:49:37,020
man with a couple of tarpaper
shacks, which will unsightly and

785
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:41,670
compared to the formula high
school, you know, this this the

786
00:49:41,670 --> 00:49:50,670
idea of separate but equal
books, so, so torn apart. In one

787
00:49:50,670 --> 00:49:53,490
case, a friend of mine is
supposed to teach chemistry man,

788
00:49:53,820 --> 00:49:59,130
the only books he could get. He
had shreds and particles with

789
00:49:59,130 --> 00:50:03,420
pieces of books. And by linking
up in his classroom, these

790
00:50:03,420 --> 00:50:07,020
passed out what he had. By
linking up together, the kids

791
00:50:07,050 --> 00:50:10,890
were then able to, to get
together enough material to

792
00:50:11,220 --> 00:50:13,710
these books had been discarded
by the white high school some

793
00:50:13,710 --> 00:50:16,680
years before and passed on to
the black school. Now this

794
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:19,860
points out the the weakness and
the corruption of the principal

795
00:50:19,860 --> 00:50:23,700
who was black. This teacher
friend of mine, not knowing the

796
00:50:23,700 --> 00:50:27,390
chain of commands, a brand new
teacher went to the

797
00:50:27,390 --> 00:50:29,880
superintendent said, Look, we're
gonna get to where I can work

798
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:32,250
with it, how can I teach
chemistry with this junk, and

799
00:50:32,250 --> 00:50:33,030
immediately got

800
00:50:33,570 --> 00:50:34,200
suspended?

801
00:50:35,460 --> 00:50:40,800
Oh, no bookstores classroom.
Now, the point of this is, that

802
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:44,670
principle could also have done
that, but it was better for the

803
00:50:44,670 --> 00:50:47,340
principal to report a surplus at
the end, that happened.

804
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:52,020
I don't even remember, this clip
is so weird.

805
00:50:53,159 --> 00:50:57,659
So this is the Boulais at work,
because this is where that I'm

806
00:50:57,659 --> 00:51:00,749
different come in, at. And we're
going to get into that in the

807
00:51:00,749 --> 00:51:06,509
next clip what that really
means. But look at me, I'm one

808
00:51:06,509 --> 00:51:10,739
of a few. That's what that is,
when people will lean into that

809
00:51:10,829 --> 00:51:14,849
and accept that I'm different.
They're saying, I'm one of a

810
00:51:14,849 --> 00:51:18,449
few. I'm one of the talented
10th. I'm one of the exceptional

811
00:51:18,449 --> 00:51:19,169
black people

812
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:23,070
you're not. You're not always
the other black people. Correct.

813
00:51:23,070 --> 00:51:23,280
And

814
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:27,030
people lean into that because it
makes them feel special. But you

815
00:51:27,030 --> 00:51:30,330
got to understand what's not you
but the proverbial, you have to

816
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:34,500
understand what's being said
with it is like we think most of

817
00:51:34,500 --> 00:51:38,550
y'all think down here. But but
by the grace of God, or you

818
00:51:38,550 --> 00:51:43,800
know, just sheer luck, you're
different. You know, and really,

819
00:51:44,220 --> 00:51:47,280
both sides of his argument are
operating from a place where

820
00:51:48,030 --> 00:51:53,610
it's a new term I coined, called
a scientific white supremacist.

821
00:51:54,180 --> 00:51:58,590
And they, they base their logic
off of science to say, oh, you

822
00:51:58,590 --> 00:52:01,080
know, black people aren't as
smart as everybody else we've

823
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:05,670
done the numbers we run, we run
the numbers. Now you will have

824
00:52:05,670 --> 00:52:09,180
different, you know, gradients,
but overall, they're, they're

825
00:52:09,180 --> 00:52:13,500
lesser. So on one side, you say,
well, we have to step in, this

826
00:52:13,500 --> 00:52:17,310
will be the NAACP, you know, and
I'm racist like that we have to

827
00:52:17,310 --> 00:52:20,910
step in for and think for the
black people. You know, and then

828
00:52:20,910 --> 00:52:23,910
the other side is, I don't want
to go with those last names. You

829
00:52:23,910 --> 00:52:26,730
know, I don't want those animals
around my children. I mean, you

830
00:52:26,730 --> 00:52:29,940
heard Joe Biden being a legend,
he made that statement who do

831
00:52:29,940 --> 00:52:33,180
you know, become racial jungles?
That's what he's referring to.

832
00:52:33,180 --> 00:52:37,050
He's saying what he's alleged to
say that, um, but I'm just

833
00:52:37,050 --> 00:52:40,500
saying so it's not that both
sides look at is, you know,

834
00:52:40,500 --> 00:52:42,510
these are free thinking people
and let's give them the

835
00:52:42,510 --> 00:52:46,830
resources and see how it pans
out is that we have to influence

836
00:52:47,130 --> 00:52:53,730
and step in, and you know, and
commandeer their situation. So

837
00:52:53,820 --> 00:52:58,080
to prove my point about the
scientific racism, scientific

838
00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:02,130
white supremacy is, this is
Jerry Jarrett Taylor, this goes

839
00:53:02,130 --> 00:53:06,690
back to 85. Overman. And we
talked about Darwin and things

840
00:53:06,690 --> 00:53:09,750
of that nature. We might need a
trigger warning when we've saved

841
00:53:09,750 --> 00:53:14,460
you can grab that while I finish
up. But this is how a true

842
00:53:14,460 --> 00:53:17,760
scientific White's their
premises things. And he said it

843
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:18,360
out loud.

844
00:53:20,310 --> 00:53:28,950
Warning, warning, warning, your
attention. Trigger warning has

845
00:53:28,950 --> 00:53:29,880
been activated.

846
00:53:30,210 --> 00:53:35,280
whites and Asians evolved in
harsh northern climates, in

847
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:38,670
which people had to make plans
to make it through the winter.

848
00:53:39,270 --> 00:53:43,170
They had to cooperate to hunt
and share food. And couples had

849
00:53:43,170 --> 00:53:47,490
to stay together for children to
survive. Africa was more

850
00:53:47,490 --> 00:53:52,500
forgiving. Cooperation, planning
ahead and care for children were

851
00:53:52,500 --> 00:53:57,270
less important. Psychopaths
could survive, reproduce and

852
00:53:57,270 --> 00:54:01,770
pass along their genes. I think
this is as good an explanation

853
00:54:01,770 --> 00:54:06,870
as any. The point is, however
they got that way. People of

854
00:54:06,870 --> 00:54:12,060
different races are on average,
different. expecting everyone to

855
00:54:12,060 --> 00:54:17,160
be the same is crazy. Blaming
whites when blacks fall short,

856
00:54:17,490 --> 00:54:23,310
is not just crazy. It's vicious.
Until we understand this, we

857
00:54:23,310 --> 00:54:28,170
can't even begin to talk about
America's problems, much less

858
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:31,050
solve them. Thank you for
watching.

859
00:54:32,940 --> 00:54:34,110
Thank you, Jerry. Yep, thanks.

860
00:54:34,140 --> 00:54:34,560
Oh.

861
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:40,710
So this is what it boils down to
is that is it nature, is it

862
00:54:40,710 --> 00:54:44,160
nurture. He's leaning on the
side it was you know, is due to

863
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:48,180
genetics. You know, Asian and
white people come from harsh

864
00:54:48,180 --> 00:54:51,900
conditions and it killed off
more to sociopaths. Right? And

865
00:54:51,900 --> 00:54:54,240
black people have more
sociopaths because they gave him

866
00:54:54,270 --> 00:55:00,180
they were reproducing and more
accommodating and benefit issue

867
00:55:00,180 --> 00:55:06,330
environment. This is this is the
crux of the scientific white

868
00:55:06,330 --> 00:55:07,470
supremacy argument,

869
00:55:07,770 --> 00:55:12,690
right, which was was raging back
in the 20s. And the 30s. Of

870
00:55:12,690 --> 00:55:17,100
course, we had the eugenics
Society of America, which never

871
00:55:17,100 --> 00:55:21,780
really went away. And after,
after the whole Hitler thing,

872
00:55:21,780 --> 00:55:25,020
which was kind of annoying for
us, then it kind of came back.

873
00:55:25,020 --> 00:55:28,050
And yeah, I don't even know if
that debate has ever left.

874
00:55:28,650 --> 00:55:33,210
No, it doesn't. So but now I
have a clip of Malcolm X. He's

875
00:55:33,210 --> 00:55:36,960
saying there is a difference,
but he leans more towards

876
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:40,320
nurture and environment. It's a
very interesting clip. So number

877
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:40,920
16.

878
00:55:42,900 --> 00:55:47,460
This is Part true, you won't
find very many people who are

879
00:55:47,460 --> 00:55:51,900
Afro American who will admit it.
But if it is true, why, it is

880
00:55:51,900 --> 00:55:55,140
true that there is a
sluggishness, intellectual

881
00:55:55,140 --> 00:55:59,220
sluggishness, academic
sluggishness, in almost any

882
00:55:59,220 --> 00:56:05,820
negro community. But this exists
only because of the result that

883
00:56:05,820 --> 00:56:09,840
has come up on us through years
and years of slavery and being

884
00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:13,440
held down in this society. This
is why I made reference to the

885
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:18,120
book crisis in black and white,
this particular man gives a very

886
00:56:19,260 --> 00:56:24,480
good scientific analysis as to
why there this lethargy exists

887
00:56:24,570 --> 00:56:28,080
in the negro community, it is
something that has been created

888
00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:31,860
by the system, the system is
designed to make the Negro

889
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:36,060
student lose his interest in
education almost before he even

890
00:56:36,060 --> 00:56:40,410
gets started in school. And the
parents usually who are also

891
00:56:40,500 --> 00:56:43,350
limited where education is
concerned and have who have run

892
00:56:43,350 --> 00:56:46,710
into so many barriers and
obstacles, despite the fact they

893
00:56:46,710 --> 00:56:50,250
had education. Sometimes they
ask themselves, what's the use.

894
00:56:50,370 --> 00:56:55,290
So as long as the system that we
are in exists, and this system

895
00:56:55,290 --> 00:56:59,040
that the survival of this system
depends upon the continued

896
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:03,060
exploitation of the black men in
this country, the survival of it

897
00:57:03,510 --> 00:57:07,740
depends upon the continued
degrading of the black men in

898
00:57:07,740 --> 00:57:12,090
this country in the necessity of
using us as the whipping boy in

899
00:57:12,090 --> 00:57:16,680
the Alaba, in the excuse that as
long as this system exists, then

900
00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:19,830
you will find that our people
will have the same attitude

901
00:57:19,830 --> 00:57:23,730
toward education. And that and
they have a justified, I should

902
00:57:23,730 --> 00:57:27,030
say they have they haven't
answered they can explain. But

903
00:57:27,030 --> 00:57:30,210
at the same time, the burden
rests upon the leaders of the

904
00:57:30,210 --> 00:57:34,230
Afro American community to try
and instill within the youth

905
00:57:34,230 --> 00:57:37,410
especially the desire to further
their education, because without

906
00:57:37,410 --> 00:57:39,570
it, you're not going anywhere on
this earth today.

907
00:57:40,170 --> 00:57:43,170
Yeah, enter all the Reverend and
the pastors who did such a good

908
00:57:43,170 --> 00:57:43,800
job at that.

909
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:48,840
Correct. And this is why I was
such i and that was a it's such

910
00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:55,110
a opponent of CRT critical race
theory, because all it does is

911
00:57:55,110 --> 00:58:01,230
further the lower expectations
of black students. Enter math is

912
00:58:01,230 --> 00:58:04,860
racist. Oh, yeah, that can be
more than one. According to your

913
00:58:04,860 --> 00:58:09,090
zip code, your socio economic
status, you're allowed to have

914
00:58:09,090 --> 00:58:12,450
more than one right answer to a
math problem. How in the hell

915
00:58:12,450 --> 00:58:13,170
does that help?

916
00:58:15,179 --> 00:58:19,859
It helps helps enslave people
even more. Sway, I see.

917
00:58:20,340 --> 00:58:24,540
Wish it handicaps you, which
makes you more reliant on the

918
00:58:24,540 --> 00:58:29,700
people that come in and say, oh,
you know, poor you. Now you need

919
00:58:29,700 --> 00:58:33,270
my help, even more wishes sets
this that white savior thing

920
00:58:33,270 --> 00:58:37,320
that I think Bill Berg talked
about in his comedy scan. Yes,

921
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:40,710
it's true racism is the true
racism of today.

922
00:58:41,370 --> 00:58:45,960
Right? Because if you if, let's,
I'm to the point, let's prove

923
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:49,140
it, let's have separate but
equal, let's have equal

924
00:58:49,140 --> 00:58:53,340
resources. And if you're, if
you're right, then this test

925
00:58:53,340 --> 00:58:57,270
scores will stay lower. that
will that will, if it's a cap on

926
00:58:57,270 --> 00:59:01,200
black intellectual capabilities,
it will be shown in separate but

927
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:05,790
equal because you have an
experiment, you can only have

928
00:59:05,790 --> 00:59:12,000
one variable, right? That's the
scientific method. So the one

929
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:17,910
variable will be race, you got
the same environment, same

930
00:59:17,910 --> 00:59:21,420
school, same materials,
everything else, and now we'll

931
00:59:21,420 --> 00:59:25,320
see this black intellectual
capability go up, or they're in

932
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:28,290
a state of stagnant or does it
go down, but they don't want to

933
00:59:28,290 --> 00:59:32,310
do that because both sides
benefit from this song and dance

934
00:59:32,310 --> 00:59:35,580
one. They're both scientific
white supremacist, and I'm sorry

935
00:59:35,580 --> 00:59:38,640
to say that but I'm not really
sorry to say that and they also

936
00:59:38,670 --> 00:59:43,980
both sides benefit from from it.
And what they tried to do to

937
00:59:43,980 --> 00:59:48,810
Jerry Jones is make him the face
of white supremacy like they try

938
00:59:48,810 --> 00:59:52,140
to make the kk k to white
supreme in the face of white

939
00:59:52,140 --> 00:59:55,200
supremacy. You know, it's not
that people in white seats that

940
00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:57,780
are our problem is the people in
white coats. It's Yes,

941
00:59:57,780 --> 01:00:00,450
and it's not even people with
white skin necessarily early. I

942
01:00:00,450 --> 01:00:04,530
mean, if we if we know that, you
know, the true, white supremecy.

943
01:00:05,850 --> 01:00:09,990
You know, coming from Europe, it
really isn't even that much

944
01:00:09,990 --> 01:00:11,520
about the white face anymore.

945
01:00:12,089 --> 01:00:15,239
Right. And that's when i That's
why I made the point of saying I

946
01:00:15,239 --> 01:00:19,169
said on a previous show that
they're making the quote unquote

947
01:00:19,169 --> 01:00:22,169
Magga people, a person of color,
orange,

948
01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:26,280
hey, how about this? Can I just
adapt your because you had

949
01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:29,820
scientific white supremacy
supremacists? How about white

950
01:00:29,820 --> 01:00:31,020
coats supremacist?

951
01:00:33,780 --> 01:00:40,740
No, because these Now, the
reason why I say push back

952
01:00:40,740 --> 01:00:44,760
against that, because you got to
go back to clip 15. It's the

953
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:48,360
logic, they say we are the
smartest people on the face of

954
01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:51,240
the earth. And this is what Bill
Gates comes down and say, Hey,

955
01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:55,050
we could kill off 90% of people.
Because we're the smartest

956
01:00:55,050 --> 01:00:58,080
people on Earth. Yeah, and
really, we're the only really

957
01:00:58,080 --> 01:01:02,700
people value adding people is
like, 10%. So we can do well,

958
01:01:02,700 --> 01:01:06,120
the other 90%. You know, I mean,
that's, that's their mentor, and

959
01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:09,300
it's based off of Darwinism. I
know, that frustrates a lot of

960
01:01:09,300 --> 01:01:14,070
people. But the ACE is, that's
the whole point of race, is to

961
01:01:14,070 --> 01:01:17,400
put people at hierarchies to
say, Okay, this one is smarter

962
01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:21,570
than this one, this I'm smarter
than this one, do 100% due to

963
01:01:21,570 --> 01:01:27,660
genetics. So I think if we try
to do that, we lose the point of

964
01:01:28,770 --> 01:01:33,270
they are backing everything they
think the scientific wise the

965
01:01:33,270 --> 01:01:37,440
premises off of the genetics,
the science of genetics, this,

966
01:01:37,470 --> 01:01:42,000
this is why I said this is why
they go and say, like I said,

967
01:01:42,030 --> 01:01:45,240
this is why they push birth
control and all these other

968
01:01:45,240 --> 01:01:48,990
things. And just to move to show
for a little bit. This is why

969
01:01:48,990 --> 01:01:52,200
the creation of the town the
10th, aka the Boulais was

970
01:01:52,200 --> 01:01:55,770
created to say we understand
scientifically, y'all will have

971
01:01:55,770 --> 01:02:00,150
smart people not at the right we
do wish y'all will. So what we

972
01:02:00,150 --> 01:02:03,420
do is we will carve out a place
for them, but the other 9% Gotta

973
01:02:03,420 --> 01:02:10,740
go screw you know, kill you. One
way, this the end, I want to

974
01:02:10,740 --> 01:02:11,970
make this clear, even better.

975
01:02:13,230 --> 01:02:14,880
Born that's the best No,

976
01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:18,270
not kill them before they bore
you. You're almost there, kill

977
01:02:18,270 --> 01:02:20,160
them before they reproduce.
Okay.

978
01:02:20,459 --> 01:02:20,969
The goal is

979
01:02:21,449 --> 01:02:24,749
to sterilize sterilized that
then that was the eugenics

980
01:02:24,749 --> 01:02:26,099
movement was sterilization.

981
01:02:26,699 --> 01:02:31,439
Correct. The reason why they had
to do this is because, and shout

982
01:02:31,439 --> 01:02:34,049
out to my man grunt me who had
this long conversation, it

983
01:02:34,049 --> 01:02:36,749
really boils down to one
marshmallow to marshmallow. And

984
01:02:36,749 --> 01:02:39,689
sorry, I'm belaboring this, but
we got to get this kind of laid

985
01:02:39,689 --> 01:02:42,029
out for the show the rest of the
show.

986
01:02:45,239 --> 01:02:47,459
Makes me understood double Yeah,
it makes sense.

987
01:02:49,050 --> 01:02:50,910
Have you ever heard the
marshmallow test?

988
01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:54,510
Well, I've heard of the brown
paper bag test.

989
01:02:54,870 --> 01:02:58,020
Now the marshmallow test was his
book written. And they said

990
01:02:58,020 --> 01:03:01,200
people to eat one marshmallow.
They gave kids marshmallow. They

991
01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:04,530
said, you can eat the one
marshmallow now. Or if you wait

992
01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:08,610
to Marshmallow, yes, we've
talked about this. Right. So

993
01:03:08,610 --> 01:03:11,280
that's their whole point. They
trying to get rid of all the one

994
01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:14,820
marshmallow people that people
that can't delay gratification.

995
01:03:14,940 --> 01:03:18,720
That's the scientific what the
Jared Taylor's talking about.

996
01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:21,540
They quote unquote, gay when I
say that he's talking about

997
01:03:21,540 --> 01:03:25,020
black people. And brown people
are saying different here, just

998
01:03:25,020 --> 01:03:27,450
just to AR one marshmallow
people just to

999
01:03:27,450 --> 01:03:30,750
give some context. This was a
Stanford experiment, Stanford

1000
01:03:30,750 --> 01:03:37,230
University from 1972. Right, and
was only really challenged

1001
01:03:37,860 --> 01:03:42,060
harshly in the last couple of
years, I think, came up again,

1002
01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:45,960
where it's still being pushed,
is that even like some of these

1003
01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:55,110
other flawed thought processes
is that you know, that and way

1004
01:03:55,110 --> 01:03:57,690
Jarrett is looking at it. And
I'm not pointing him out

1005
01:03:57,690 --> 01:04:00,390
particularly but people that
think like him, there's a

1006
01:04:00,390 --> 01:04:03,660
greater percentage of one
marshmallow people and black

1007
01:04:03,660 --> 01:04:08,040
people. So we can dance around
the subject, or we can use you

1008
01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:11,400
know, address the subject. And
that's when your birth control

1009
01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:17,010
and your abortion and
sterilization. Another form of

1010
01:04:18,420 --> 01:04:22,830
sterilization is trans trans
transitioning, which is just

1011
01:04:22,830 --> 01:04:26,700
another form of that we have to
voluntary sterilization my

1012
01:04:26,700 --> 01:04:31,020
friend, right we have to kill
them before they reproduce even

1013
01:04:31,020 --> 01:04:34,230
what's happening in Canada right
now. You're depressed,

1014
01:04:34,950 --> 01:04:37,830
die, die, we'll help you die

1015
01:04:37,860 --> 01:04:41,370
before you reproduce. Because
guess what? That one one

1016
01:04:41,370 --> 01:04:44,550
marshmallow person can make
three or four or five or 10 and

1017
01:04:44,550 --> 01:04:47,400
the two marshmallow people are
not reproducing at the same

1018
01:04:47,400 --> 01:04:50,970
rate. This This is the sixth
scientific mind we're dealing

1019
01:04:50,970 --> 01:04:53,760
with here that they want to play
God and that's why I can't get

1020
01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:54,570
on board with it.

1021
01:04:55,080 --> 01:04:58,050
No, of course not. And I'll just
say again, because I made such a

1022
01:04:58,050 --> 01:05:04,200
study of it after I know this
was maybe five, six shows ago I

1023
01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:07,590
really, I really did a deep dive
into the eugenics Society of

1024
01:05:07,590 --> 01:05:11,250
America. It's still here, it's
still the same thinking it's the

1025
01:05:11,250 --> 01:05:12,630
same ideas.

1026
01:05:14,070 --> 01:05:19,680
It never, never went away.
constant drumbeat one foot after

1027
01:05:19,680 --> 01:05:22,650
other slow and that's why I
always point to the Fabian

1028
01:05:22,650 --> 01:05:28,200
socialist. Their mentality is
progress continual improvement

1029
01:05:28,230 --> 01:05:31,140
and it's a very scientific and I
know I've said scientific a

1030
01:05:31,140 --> 01:05:34,950
bunch but I want to make this is
not emotional. We have to take

1031
01:05:34,950 --> 01:05:40,410
the emotion out of things
understand. The lizard people

1032
01:05:40,410 --> 01:05:44,550
are scared as hell and what a
lizard people do. They either

1033
01:05:44,550 --> 01:05:49,440
fight or flight. Right that's it
and they're like, we can't fly

1034
01:05:49,470 --> 01:05:54,270
off Earth just yet. So what do
we got to do? We have to go on

1035
01:05:54,270 --> 01:05:58,710
the offensive. Ie you're saying
the vaccinations, trans

1036
01:05:58,740 --> 01:06:04,530
transitioning, abortion birth
control, giving up your right to

1037
01:06:04,560 --> 01:06:08,370
reproduce due to the for climate
change all of these things then

1038
01:06:08,370 --> 01:06:11,820
around. If you're dumb enough to
fall for this, you're not smart

1039
01:06:11,820 --> 01:06:13,440
enough to go to the future where
we're headed

1040
01:06:13,500 --> 01:06:17,130
there. Just you just set it
right there. Let's put something

1041
01:06:17,130 --> 01:06:19,290
out there and you're dumb enough
to fall for it. We were right

1042
01:06:19,290 --> 01:06:20,790
about you. That's

1043
01:06:22,469 --> 01:06:27,059
right. And and to the town that
Tim could they say, Okay, y'all

1044
01:06:27,059 --> 01:06:29,969
get your different now here we
come with the you're different.

1045
01:06:30,179 --> 01:06:33,629
Now I have to humanize
everybody, as always do you have

1046
01:06:33,629 --> 01:06:36,599
to look at it from the flip side
of the tablet 10. They say I

1047
01:06:36,599 --> 01:06:40,709
have these special abilities you
skills. And I can say I know

1048
01:06:40,709 --> 01:06:42,779
we'd be labeled in between
clips, but I have to make this

1049
01:06:42,779 --> 01:06:46,199
clear what's going on. Because I
was one of these kids that was

1050
01:06:46,199 --> 01:06:49,829
in this class. This is just Joe
Brown. And it's a video of him

1051
01:06:49,829 --> 01:06:53,909
talking to these looks like you
know, preteen kids, and he's

1052
01:06:53,909 --> 01:06:56,279
going to tell them how they're
to tell teeth and how they're

1053
01:06:56,309 --> 01:06:59,399
obligated to raise their race
up, which I have no issue with

1054
01:06:59,399 --> 01:07:04,229
that. But it's who you recruited
him that you send them off to

1055
01:07:04,229 --> 01:07:08,489
these PMIs predominantly PWI
excuse me, predominately white

1056
01:07:08,489 --> 01:07:12,719
institutions, where they'll be
isolated, you know, from their

1057
01:07:12,719 --> 01:07:16,709
people, they'll be seen as
different by their people, and

1058
01:07:16,709 --> 01:07:19,049
they won't be effective. So
basically, what you're doing is,

1059
01:07:19,109 --> 01:07:21,569
you know, taking the cream of
the crop and leaving the other

1060
01:07:21,569 --> 01:07:25,289
90% behind. But if you think
you've been blessed with a

1061
01:07:25,289 --> 01:07:28,409
certain skill to elevate your
people, and if so to you like

1062
01:07:28,409 --> 01:07:31,679
JoJo Brown is selling it to
them. And I said I don't think

1063
01:07:31,679 --> 01:07:34,889
he has an ill willing his heart.
But I want because I've had this

1064
01:07:34,889 --> 01:07:39,299
conversation. I was I told you I
was elected. Seventh grade

1065
01:07:39,299 --> 01:07:43,229
treasurer. Right. And they came
in Are you going to be on the

1066
01:07:43,229 --> 01:07:44,369
Freedom Riders the future?

1067
01:07:45,570 --> 01:07:49,200
Yeah, let's get on the bus. All
right around. Yeah. And this

1068
01:07:49,200 --> 01:07:52,230
is a kind of speech you will get
when you were put on the bus 17

1069
01:07:53,969 --> 01:08:01,619
is Wow, Bose, however you want
to pronounce the spoke of the

1070
01:08:01,619 --> 01:08:07,979
talented 10. That is the 1/10 of
the population of what he called

1071
01:08:08,009 --> 01:08:13,529
Colored Peoples in negros,
blacks and Afro American, then

1072
01:08:13,529 --> 01:08:18,929
black and then African American.
And considering sort of

1073
01:08:18,929 --> 01:08:22,859
developments, maybe Afro
American again, but anyway, one

1074
01:08:22,859 --> 01:08:29,099
tear of the race, he said we'll
be able to improve themselves

1075
01:08:29,099 --> 01:08:33,509
and then being conscientious and
dedicated to the cause. Cool the

1076
01:08:33,509 --> 01:08:38,669
rest of the people that wish.
Now some way somehow that

1077
01:08:38,669 --> 01:08:44,609
stopped being manifest objective
of people who've done education,

1078
01:08:45,059 --> 01:08:49,259
we slid back. So this
neighborhood no longer has

1079
01:08:49,259 --> 01:08:54,539
leadership. Everybody kind of
takes off Rosa Parks when they

1080
01:08:54,539 --> 01:09:00,659
leave the workplace. But we have
to still exercise leadership

1081
01:09:00,659 --> 01:09:05,459
because we should be in charge
if we have a challenge. And as

1082
01:09:05,489 --> 01:09:06,449
an obligation.

1083
01:09:07,620 --> 01:09:10,050
And when when was this from this
judge brown clip?

1084
01:09:10,320 --> 01:09:15,360
This looks like the early 2000s.
I'm just going by video. I mean,

1085
01:09:15,360 --> 01:09:18,990
I don't have a set date and I'm
looking by dressing and that

1086
01:09:18,990 --> 01:09:24,300
kind of thing. It looks maybe
early 2000s When this was taken,

1087
01:09:24,540 --> 01:09:28,380
and like I said he doesn't have
any ill will towards this is the

1088
01:09:29,340 --> 01:09:34,110
the argument you know, Booker T
Washington, W EB Dubois, that's

1089
01:09:34,110 --> 01:09:39,180
the art do we build from ground
up? Or do we start with top down

1090
01:09:39,180 --> 01:09:44,430
for you? Right, you elevate your
10% and then they reach back

1091
01:09:44,430 --> 01:09:50,490
down and pull up. Or do you say
we build a strong foundation and

1092
01:09:50,490 --> 01:09:53,070
you know that foundation
elevates another layer of level

1093
01:09:53,070 --> 01:09:55,650
and another level and another
level you have a strong

1094
01:09:55,650 --> 01:10:00,570
foundation, which even given the
dichotomy here We're saying or

1095
01:10:00,570 --> 01:10:04,590
the other binary choice is dumb
to me, because you need both?

1096
01:10:04,620 --> 01:10:08,790
Well, of course, this is what
has been done that you had two

1097
01:10:08,790 --> 01:10:13,020
groups come in and say, choice A
or choice B. And just to go back

1098
01:10:13,020 --> 01:10:15,870
for a minute, cuz I want to
bring up trading places. For me,

1099
01:10:15,900 --> 01:10:19,920
this is what this was all about
was, are they genetically this

1100
01:10:19,920 --> 01:10:22,950
way? Or is it nature versus
nurture? You know, that kind of

1101
01:10:22,950 --> 01:10:28,830
thing. And as you see how to
move, it's played out, if you

1102
01:10:28,830 --> 01:10:30,720
change the person, the
environment, you know, it

1103
01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:33,600
changes their outlook, which,
you know, let their true

1104
01:10:33,870 --> 01:10:36,660
capability shine through. But
that's what it brought me in.

1105
01:10:36,660 --> 01:10:40,800
That's what it boils down to.
And it's very, it's very cold,

1106
01:10:40,830 --> 01:10:45,750
calculating, and, and scientific
to say that we're for 100 times,

1107
01:10:46,140 --> 01:10:49,980
but we have to not throw the
science part out with it. But

1108
01:10:49,980 --> 01:10:53,190
they trigger you by triggering
your emotion to say, oh, Jerry

1109
01:10:53,190 --> 01:10:57,990
Jones, here he is, he was saying
80 years ago. And it was black

1110
01:10:57,990 --> 01:11:04,440
and white picture. Now be mad
and noise solutions b2b Man, the

1111
01:11:04,440 --> 01:11:05,700
way we want you to react,

1112
01:11:06,090 --> 01:11:10,980
so we can get him out, get the
team get Jay Z and build a new

1113
01:11:10,980 --> 01:11:13,410
stadium gentrify the whole
neighborhood make make a billion

1114
01:11:13,410 --> 01:11:13,950
dollars.

1115
01:11:14,430 --> 01:11:18,120
Even with that it's get Jay Z
and but as you pointed out to

1116
01:11:18,120 --> 01:11:22,560
get 1/10 of a percent, but plan
on your emotions. Oh, we got a

1117
01:11:22,560 --> 01:11:27,510
black owner. Now. Do we really
know. Bezos is the you know,

1118
01:11:28,050 --> 01:11:31,920
JC literally like owned 0.3% of
the nets or something? It's like

1119
01:11:31,920 --> 01:11:33,390
so infinitesimal.

1120
01:11:33,660 --> 01:11:37,920
This he did, but he sold it, you
know, and Jay Z is playing chess

1121
01:11:37,920 --> 01:11:41,550
here. You know, he did
basketball. First. They got in a

1122
01:11:41,550 --> 01:11:43,950
sports agency. And then he

1123
01:11:44,670 --> 01:11:49,050
got the Super Bowl contract to
do all the media to do all the

1124
01:11:49,050 --> 01:11:50,820
rest. But we owe the halftime
show.

1125
01:11:51,030 --> 01:11:53,490
But we got to back up one step
because he was on Colin

1126
01:11:53,490 --> 01:11:56,340
Kaepernick side in the
beginning. Right, right. That's

1127
01:11:56,340 --> 01:11:59,790
why I told you that was Jay Z's
pancake moment. And if people

1128
01:11:59,790 --> 01:12:02,340
don't know talking about when
Bill Cosby gave that pancake

1129
01:12:02,340 --> 01:12:05,280
speech, that's when he kind of
lost the backing of quote

1130
01:12:05,280 --> 01:12:07,980
unquote black people because
like, Whoa, you're on common

1131
01:12:07,980 --> 01:12:12,090
side now all of a sudden, you
know, you're doing halftime show

1132
01:12:12,090 --> 01:12:16,530
for the NFL and Super Bowl. And
that was a bad look for us

1133
01:12:16,530 --> 01:12:20,460
because it portrayed the wrong
image. You know, racial image

1134
01:12:20,489 --> 01:12:23,549
does it make us play the
poundcake again,

1135
01:12:24,630 --> 01:12:27,390
if you want to ensure just to
give people content Yeah, I'd

1136
01:12:27,390 --> 01:12:27,630
like to

1137
01:12:27,630 --> 01:12:28,470
do that hold on a sec.

1138
01:12:29,130 --> 01:12:36,990
In the old days, you couldn't
because behind every drawn shade

1139
01:12:36,990 --> 01:12:44,070
was alive. And before your
mother got off the bus into the

1140
01:12:44,070 --> 01:12:48,780
house, she knew exactly where
you had gone who had gone into

1141
01:12:48,780 --> 01:12:54,660
the house. Parents don't know
that. I'm talking about these

1142
01:12:54,690 --> 01:13:00,360
people who cry when the sun is
standing there in an orange

1143
01:13:00,360 --> 01:13:11,130
suit. Where were you willing was
to where were you when he was 12

1144
01:13:12,540 --> 01:13:17,850
Where were you when he was 18
and I've come you don't know he

1145
01:13:17,850 --> 01:13:23,520
had a season not these are these
are not political criminals.

1146
01:13:23,940 --> 01:13:28,290
These are people going around
stealing Coca Cola people

1147
01:13:28,290 --> 01:13:32,490
getting shot in the back of the
head over a piece of pound cake

1148
01:13:34,830 --> 01:13:40,050
and then we all run out were
outraged to shut down would you

1149
01:13:40,050 --> 01:13:41,160
do with the pound

1150
01:13:44,700 --> 01:13:47,100
yeah, there's a second part to
it but I think it's clear enough

1151
01:13:47,100 --> 01:13:47,700
with that

1152
01:13:49,140 --> 01:13:53,910
but now you see when he said
these people that's that that's

1153
01:13:53,910 --> 01:13:59,880
that different top right eye
we're different is these people

1154
01:13:59,880 --> 01:14:03,720
which of course we have issues
but when you separate yourself

1155
01:14:03,720 --> 01:14:07,650
from the group this is why
nobody came right in for Bill

1156
01:14:07,650 --> 01:14:09,840
Cosby when he got hemmed up.
It's like okay,

1157
01:14:09,870 --> 01:14:12,300
you know, he's going back out
he's going back out on the ice

1158
01:14:12,300 --> 01:14:13,140
we're going to do a tour.

1159
01:14:13,710 --> 01:14:16,350
He has to because I told you
they only let him out of jail to

1160
01:14:16,350 --> 01:14:19,500
drain his pockets that was the
whole point when we did the show

1161
01:14:19,500 --> 01:14:24,810
it was like I got to pack my bag
and stuff in the back sometimes

1162
01:14:25,290 --> 01:14:29,280
because like I knew this is all
really let them out is to say

1163
01:14:29,280 --> 01:14:33,540
okay we got you wish there was
no constitutional reasoning for

1164
01:14:33,540 --> 01:14:37,290
them have them you know, cuz you
couldn't you're saying self

1165
01:14:37,290 --> 01:14:39,720
incriminate yourself that way
was like now we got to let them

1166
01:14:39,720 --> 01:14:42,000
out because we can't sue him
while he's in jail. Right?

1167
01:14:42,660 --> 01:14:47,790
I'll give you a little route
shot for that. We remember

1168
01:14:52,500 --> 01:14:55,500
all right. So now we're going to
fast forward and talk here for

1169
01:14:55,500 --> 01:15:00,360
one Little Rock Nine and she
received most of them Most some

1170
01:15:00,360 --> 01:15:03,390
of the most harshest abuse and
this is Megyn Kelly talking to

1171
01:15:03,390 --> 01:15:03,690
her

1172
01:15:09,210 --> 01:15:13,350
black history month. We remember
that day in September of 1957,

1173
01:15:13,590 --> 01:15:16,860
when nine black teenagers
enrolled in a white High School

1174
01:15:17,100 --> 01:15:20,430
in Little Rock, Arkansas, the
group of teens would become

1175
01:15:20,430 --> 01:15:23,610
known as the Little Rock Nine,
and their actions sparked one of

1176
01:15:23,610 --> 01:15:27,030
the most pivotable pivotal
moments of the civil rights

1177
01:15:27,030 --> 01:15:31,830
movement. One of the Little Rock
Nine is Melba Pattillo Beals,

1178
01:15:32,280 --> 01:15:36,060
then she was a 15 year old high
school junior. Today, she is an

1179
01:15:36,060 --> 01:15:39,240
accomplished author and retired
University professor who joins

1180
01:15:39,240 --> 01:15:44,340
us this morning live. But first,
her memory of those days. In her

1181
01:15:44,340 --> 01:15:45,000
own words,

1182
01:15:45,090 --> 01:15:48,690
I was never up for the task,
people who call us heroes and

1183
01:15:48,690 --> 01:15:53,580
heroines have no idea that it's
15 I was still in love with

1184
01:15:53,580 --> 01:15:57,870
Johnny Mathis and Pat Boone. So
I was a typical teenager, I

1185
01:15:57,870 --> 01:16:01,080
wanted what every other teenager
when any new school you go to,

1186
01:16:01,080 --> 01:16:04,380
you know, you're going to have a
problem. So I anticipated that.

1187
01:16:04,800 --> 01:16:10,500
Initially, they would not like
us because of we were outsiders.

1188
01:16:10,620 --> 01:16:13,800
But my thought was I have a
point till my shoes are

1189
01:16:13,800 --> 01:16:17,940
polished. In my innocence, I
thought they will see that I am

1190
01:16:17,940 --> 01:16:22,530
bright, brighter than most of
them. So what are they going to

1191
01:16:22,530 --> 01:16:28,290
do? You know? And I by that I
knew who I was, and I know what

1192
01:16:28,290 --> 01:16:31,920
I'm capable of. And I was self
assured in that way.

1193
01:16:33,030 --> 01:16:35,670
I didn't realize it but there
was more than half or girls, I

1194
01:16:35,670 --> 01:16:36,870
think of the Little Rock now.

1195
01:16:36,900 --> 01:16:40,830
Yes. Going back to what I said
before about you had to have the

1196
01:16:40,830 --> 01:16:45,480
right temperament, right? You
couldn't have nine strapping

1197
01:16:45,480 --> 01:16:51,450
young black men coming into why
no eight had to be a certain

1198
01:16:51,810 --> 01:16:55,770
percentage of women, kids that
wouldn't fight back that could

1199
01:16:55,770 --> 01:16:59,070
be you know, hazing and harassed
and assaulted.

1200
01:16:59,340 --> 01:17:03,030
I'm gonna, I'm gonna ask Dred
Scott, who does the chapters for

1201
01:17:03,030 --> 01:17:06,120
this show, if you're using a
modern podcast app, new podcast

1202
01:17:06,120 --> 01:17:09,540
apps.com, that one of those
pictures from the Smithsonian

1203
01:17:09,630 --> 01:17:12,360
National Museum of African
American History and Culture.

1204
01:17:13,560 --> 01:17:16,170
It's really cool. You see them
all sitting there in a circle,

1205
01:17:16,170 --> 01:17:20,070
like a study group. And this
just, you know, dress to the T's

1206
01:17:20,070 --> 01:17:21,630
is perfect. Perfect. It

1207
01:17:21,630 --> 01:17:26,430
was it was 69. I mean, 63 that
made up the twice as many

1208
01:17:26,430 --> 01:17:32,430
females as males, right. So I'm
wondering, did feminism have

1209
01:17:32,430 --> 01:17:35,100
anything to do with that as
well? Because you know, with

1210
01:17:35,730 --> 01:17:39,690
hiring black women, you get a
double minority? Yes. So it's

1211
01:17:39,690 --> 01:17:43,350
like, when people like what you
might be reaching there? No,

1212
01:17:43,350 --> 01:17:46,980
these things are thought out.
And the decades and centuries

1213
01:17:47,070 --> 01:17:53,490
Yeah, fast forward. But let's
continue on with the abuse this

1214
01:17:53,940 --> 01:17:58,830
sister bills endured. When she
attended school, I had

1215
01:17:58,830 --> 01:18:01,500
written around Central High
School since I was a baby says

1216
01:18:01,500 --> 01:18:05,520
little and don't don't say I
can't do something. That's what

1217
01:18:05,520 --> 01:18:09,960
I'm gonna do. Always wheelchair
walker or not. If you defy me

1218
01:18:09,960 --> 01:18:13,830
and you say, you can't do that.
I was born that way. And so they

1219
01:18:13,830 --> 01:18:16,950
said, you can't go to the
school. The school was 718

1220
01:18:16,950 --> 01:18:19,890
storeys high. With all the
equipment, it was eight square

1221
01:18:19,890 --> 01:18:22,470
blocks in diameter. And I was
going to this little teeny

1222
01:18:22,470 --> 01:18:25,980
school where every September
they bring over the three legged

1223
01:18:26,220 --> 01:18:31,740
table, the greasy key, you know,
broken typewriter, and I said

1224
01:18:31,740 --> 01:18:36,180
that Wait a minute. Hey, who
puts him in charge? And Gregory

1225
01:18:36,180 --> 01:18:38,730
would always say if he knew
better, they do better. God

1226
01:18:38,730 --> 01:18:43,140
loves us equally. So I said,
look at your mom. I want him to

1227
01:18:43,140 --> 01:18:47,520
come up and be in charge for six
months. Let them do Jan to June

1228
01:18:47,520 --> 01:18:52,140
and let me do July to December.
If that's how it is if God

1229
01:18:52,140 --> 01:18:55,020
really loves to see cool and she
would say no, you know, this is

1230
01:18:55,020 --> 01:18:57,930
God's time in his way and I just
you know, so when they put up

1231
01:18:58,080 --> 01:19:00,840
it's time to put your hand up to
go to Central High School.

1232
01:19:01,050 --> 01:19:05,520
Despite any thoughts of tyranny
or what's going to happen I put

1233
01:19:05,520 --> 01:19:06,000
my hand up

1234
01:19:08,190 --> 01:19:14,250
so now you see that I have
special gifts and I'm gonna use

1235
01:19:14,250 --> 01:19:19,500
that gift to prove to people
that we are smart you know, but

1236
01:19:19,530 --> 01:19:23,700
the short side of this of this
is that if you prove a racist

1237
01:19:23,700 --> 01:19:26,940
that you're better than him that
doesn't that doesn't gain favor

1238
01:19:26,940 --> 01:19:30,510
with him. That only you know now
you're up to you know what, you

1239
01:19:30,510 --> 01:19:35,160
know, and who do you think you
are now with? Okay, you stepping

1240
01:19:35,160 --> 01:19:38,490
out your line? Boy? Again,
you're saying that that's how

1241
01:19:38,490 --> 01:19:41,490
they will put it? Which gal is a
racist? Oh, well let people know

1242
01:19:41,490 --> 01:19:45,450
that to you. That this
microaggression that's the

1243
01:19:45,450 --> 01:19:50,520
equivalent to boy for black
women. Yes. I always like to

1244
01:19:50,520 --> 01:19:53,430
throw a little things out there
for people. So you can have

1245
01:19:53,430 --> 01:19:56,160
context to that yeah, come up.
My mom's did get triggered when

1246
01:19:56,160 --> 01:19:59,970
we go to restaurant. You know, I
have guys and gals on the on the

1247
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:03,990
On the bathroom doors, it was
like, oh, okay, now I can't

1248
01:20:03,990 --> 01:20:06,060
write with that. But quick
aside,

1249
01:20:06,690 --> 01:20:10,950
I didn't realize that thanks for
is that still considered racist

1250
01:20:10,950 --> 01:20:11,370
today?

1251
01:20:11,670 --> 01:20:15,360
I don't think is well known but
and this is where generational

1252
01:20:15,360 --> 01:20:19,860
things come in. And you know,
that was the equivalent to that.

1253
01:20:19,890 --> 01:20:25,860
So now it's amazing like the
crowd was clapping and stuff.

1254
01:20:26,130 --> 01:20:30,360
And you know, say like you they
bring us out and now we're going

1255
01:20:30,360 --> 01:20:34,440
to hear I want you to listen to
what Megyn Kelly thought she

1256
01:20:34,440 --> 01:20:37,500
experienced versus what she
actually experienced.

1257
01:20:37,800 --> 01:20:41,370
I put my hand up I didn't really
anticipate so don't let me let

1258
01:20:41,370 --> 01:20:43,260
you believe that I have some
great heroin. That's it. Okay,

1259
01:20:43,260 --> 01:20:46,080
I'll go there get killed rot.
No, no, no, no, I thought, well,

1260
01:20:46,080 --> 01:20:48,720
you know, they'll be mean,
they'll call me names because

1261
01:20:48,720 --> 01:20:52,050
they do that in any new school.
They won't like my blouse. They

1262
01:20:52,050 --> 01:20:55,230
won't like my hair. Did you
expect I mean, no, no, no, no,

1263
01:20:55,230 --> 01:20:55,890
no threat.

1264
01:20:56,700 --> 01:20:59,190
Life there were there were
ropes, people were holding

1265
01:20:59,190 --> 01:21:03,540
weapons. No, no, calling you the
N word. It was beyond bleeding

1266
01:21:03,540 --> 01:21:03,750
through

1267
01:21:03,750 --> 01:21:09,030
my living room window. people
throwing acid in my eyes, people

1268
01:21:09,210 --> 01:21:13,800
throwing lip paper over the
bathroom stall. After about a

1269
01:21:13,800 --> 01:21:18,090
day and a half there I thought,
Aha integration is a much, much

1270
01:21:18,090 --> 01:21:23,100
bigger word than I thought.
Because I didn't understand what

1271
01:21:23,100 --> 01:21:26,280
people were willing to do to
avoid sitting by me. And I like

1272
01:21:26,280 --> 01:21:29,310
me. I couldn't figure that out.
All my life. God had said, You

1273
01:21:29,310 --> 01:21:32,580
know what? I mean, my
grandmother's it God's God has a

1274
01:21:32,580 --> 01:21:35,010
picture of you on his
refrigerator. He really likes

1275
01:21:35,010 --> 01:21:39,390
you. You're pretty he really
likes you. So why would you do

1276
01:21:39,390 --> 01:21:41,130
that to keep from sitting beside
me.

1277
01:21:41,460 --> 01:21:44,250
But when they put you in the
school, they separated the nine

1278
01:21:44,250 --> 01:21:47,430
of you and said you want
integration? You got it?

1279
01:21:49,980 --> 01:21:53,250
So you heard what Megan said, he
had ropes and throwing the word

1280
01:21:53,250 --> 01:21:55,470
around. And no, that's Megan's

1281
01:21:55,470 --> 01:21:58,020
imagination. She's thinking
something else, man. She's

1282
01:21:58,020 --> 01:21:59,880
thinking what day or whatever. I
don't know

1283
01:22:00,030 --> 01:22:02,820
what not. That's what you saw
from the images. It was much

1284
01:22:02,820 --> 01:22:07,110
worse. Right? Nobody. Everybody
was dead when school first

1285
01:22:07,110 --> 01:22:11,640
started when the cameras left.
And his kid was still going to

1286
01:22:11,640 --> 01:22:16,020
school. As you heard her say to
ask her in her eyes. Try to set

1287
01:22:16,020 --> 01:22:21,780
her on fire in a bathroom stall.
Shoot was the wrong home. Why

1288
01:22:21,780 --> 01:22:24,060
would you sign your children up
for this? And I want to make one

1289
01:22:24,060 --> 01:22:27,270
last point before we move on to
the next. The next phase of the

1290
01:22:27,270 --> 01:22:31,440
show. Is that in this situation?
You heard her referred to her

1291
01:22:31,440 --> 01:22:35,100
grandmother and her mother.
There was no man in the house in

1292
01:22:35,100 --> 01:22:38,040
this situation. Because no way
in hell what?

1293
01:22:38,310 --> 01:22:40,470
My daughter's Yeah.

1294
01:22:41,880 --> 01:22:45,780
Cuz you got to make me kill
somebody. He will say in the

1295
01:22:45,780 --> 01:22:49,650
name of progress. If you do that
to my child, you're saying like

1296
01:22:49,680 --> 01:22:52,290
I'm going to be killed. So
that's why a father would have

1297
01:22:52,290 --> 01:22:55,140
put the kibosh on like Nah, we
ain't going for that. Because I

1298
01:22:55,140 --> 01:23:01,350
know how it ends, right? But you
have the you know, Wilmslow

1299
01:23:01,350 --> 01:23:04,950
cool, a, you know, right, to say
they're just different. You

1300
01:23:04,950 --> 01:23:07,770
know, when you go to a different
school, you get nervous and they

1301
01:23:07,770 --> 01:23:13,230
be mean to new kids. No, this is
institutional ingrained racism,

1302
01:23:13,260 --> 01:23:14,220
that's unbalanced

1303
01:23:14,220 --> 01:23:17,400
household that, that where that
can happen.

1304
01:23:18,060 --> 01:23:20,520
Yeah, I like to say that how
that conversation they want to

1305
01:23:20,520 --> 01:23:23,970
do it and then pick somebody
else kid. You go you go back to

1306
01:23:23,970 --> 01:23:27,660
the high school you went to
because you got to put me in a

1307
01:23:27,660 --> 01:23:30,660
very, you know, when you were
situation

1308
01:23:30,690 --> 01:23:33,060
when you were singled out, you
were treasurer, good for the

1309
01:23:33,060 --> 01:23:37,020
Freedom Riders. Was your dad
there or he was already working

1310
01:23:37,020 --> 01:23:39,150
somewhere else not in the house
at the time? No,

1311
01:23:39,180 --> 01:23:44,100
my dad was there. And but this
is where this is where you will

1312
01:23:44,100 --> 01:23:48,390
always get vetted when you came
back for somewhere. Like so. So

1313
01:23:48,390 --> 01:23:55,110
how, what happened? Cuz it was
you see something, say something

1314
01:23:55,110 --> 01:23:57,240
in the house? Like if you see
some craziness going on, are you

1315
01:23:57,240 --> 01:24:00,210
gonna be better tell us? Are you
Oh, you will be just in much

1316
01:24:00,210 --> 01:24:04,170
trouble or more trouble. If
you're saying if you didn't

1317
01:24:04,170 --> 01:24:08,160
tell. So but this this thing
happens. And I don't think

1318
01:24:08,160 --> 01:24:13,950
people know how widespread this
was Ms. In that was math,

1319
01:24:13,950 --> 01:24:18,180
science and engineering network.
This is how you got the smarter

1320
01:24:18,180 --> 01:24:20,970
kids and you go to school on
Saturday and they bring you to

1321
01:24:20,970 --> 01:24:23,970
college campuses. And this kind
of thing. This was the vetting

1322
01:24:23,970 --> 01:24:27,540
system to figure out who to
Boulay was the next Boulais you

1323
01:24:27,540 --> 01:24:30,780
know, and once you got that it's
like okay, then you go out to

1324
01:24:30,780 --> 01:24:33,390
college and then the
fraternities would come in, you

1325
01:24:33,390 --> 01:24:34,560
know, it pick you

1326
01:24:34,590 --> 01:24:37,620
how do you know, the test mode?
What happened? How did you fail?

1327
01:24:38,430 --> 01:24:41,370
I'm gonna tell you like, when I
went into the, when I literally

1328
01:24:41,370 --> 01:24:46,890
I failed the test. So I did this
several times. One was like I

1329
01:24:46,890 --> 01:24:50,880
said, fourth grade Miss Fushi
class. They came in and said, We

1330
01:24:50,880 --> 01:24:54,240
want you to go over to the
special kid room not that

1331
01:24:54,240 --> 01:24:59,040
special but the like the app to
get ag academically gifted class

1332
01:24:59,460 --> 01:25:02,100
and they brought meaning there.
And it was a weird vibe in the

1333
01:25:02,100 --> 01:25:08,580
rooms and they had like lamps
instead of like the harsh. They

1334
01:25:08,580 --> 01:25:13,110
had like the Beethoven going on
there saying softly. And the

1335
01:25:13,110 --> 01:25:16,770
kids got to lay on like chairs
and like sofas. That was weird.

1336
01:25:16,770 --> 01:25:19,590
It was like a real nice
environment. But it was strange

1337
01:25:19,590 --> 01:25:23,160
because like, it wasn't a
typical classroom. And I flunked

1338
01:25:23,160 --> 01:25:28,110
the test on purpose. Because I
didn't want to be separated from

1339
01:25:28,110 --> 01:25:33,360
my regular class. And then going
from fourth to seventh grade.

1340
01:25:34,770 --> 01:25:37,740
When they were like, Nick, did
the Freedom Rider thing. I'm

1341
01:25:37,800 --> 01:25:40,920
like, like, you know, this is
the time my dad gave me Malcolm

1342
01:25:40,920 --> 01:25:43,140
X the autobiography. I'm like,
Yeah, we

1343
01:25:46,380 --> 01:25:47,610
go, and

1344
01:25:47,820 --> 01:25:50,940
then he would bring me here show
me how to put condoms on bananas

1345
01:25:50,940 --> 01:25:53,280
and stuff. Like, what kind of
freedom right?

1346
01:25:56,130 --> 01:25:58,680
Well, we know what they're doing
programming, use some smart

1347
01:25:58,680 --> 01:26:00,720
skills to not recreate

1348
01:26:01,440 --> 01:26:06,720
exactly is that and I divide?
And you might think I'm capping

1349
01:26:06,720 --> 01:26:10,380
or putting on No, it was the
vibe with me. It's like, I don't

1350
01:26:10,380 --> 01:26:13,200
want to be here every day in
this class, or I don't want to

1351
01:26:13,200 --> 01:26:17,880
be around these people with the
next kind of this was 1988.

1352
01:26:18,510 --> 01:26:24,480
No, this was 19. Okay, for gray
will probably be at a no, for

1353
01:26:24,480 --> 01:26:32,520
gray will be at 990. And then
and then go for, you know,

1354
01:26:32,520 --> 01:26:34,410
saying three years. 93.

1355
01:26:34,470 --> 01:26:37,440
Yeah, this is not this is not
ancient history as much as my

1356
01:26:37,440 --> 01:26:39,330
point? Of course not.

1357
01:26:39,330 --> 01:26:43,380
And they've come from my kids.
They've come from home. Oh, we

1358
01:26:43,380 --> 01:26:49,860
want to put nah, nah, wow. Now,
you're not gonna segregate them

1359
01:26:49,860 --> 01:26:54,450
all, you know, because I know
how to end it, you know. So

1360
01:26:54,660 --> 01:26:58,410
moving forward, the point I want
to make is when you do that, it

1361
01:26:58,410 --> 01:27:02,280
creates a brain drain, nobody
really talks about it. On a

1362
01:27:02,310 --> 01:27:05,130
domestic scale, you hear about
internationally, all we're

1363
01:27:05,130 --> 01:27:08,430
sucking all the intelligence out
of India and all these other

1364
01:27:08,430 --> 01:27:12,540
places. But nobody ever talks
about it, the brain drain in the

1365
01:27:12,540 --> 01:27:13,230
black community,

1366
01:27:13,380 --> 01:27:18,510
there is a thing a drain I
challenge. Those who are able to

1367
01:27:18,510 --> 01:27:22,050
escape the ghetto, get a good
education, and immediately go to

1368
01:27:22,050 --> 01:27:30,480
work for boring. Deal, whoever
that dreams, talent, brain power

1369
01:27:30,480 --> 01:27:34,140
from my from that same market.
So if you look at it as a

1370
01:27:34,140 --> 01:27:40,890
market, we've got a lot of
challenges. And so therefore,

1371
01:27:40,890 --> 01:27:45,960
the Small Business got a lot of
challenges, because you deal

1372
01:27:45,960 --> 01:27:50,220
with people that don't have the
money and won't conserve the

1373
01:27:50,220 --> 01:27:54,600
money. So, you know, the black
consumer therefore gets less for

1374
01:27:54,600 --> 01:28:00,180
their money, because they should
have doubled duty dollars as the

1375
01:28:00,180 --> 01:28:04,560
other communities that is not
only get the shoes that you

1376
01:28:04,560 --> 01:28:11,100
need, but you also bolster your
community. We get issues, but

1377
01:28:11,100 --> 01:28:12,030
not the community.

1378
01:28:15,060 --> 01:28:19,410
And that was Raymond V.
Haysbert, he was he worked with,

1379
01:28:19,860 --> 01:28:23,250
he actually fought with the
Tuskegee Airmen, and World War

1380
01:28:23,250 --> 01:28:29,130
Two, and he went on to be the
CEO of Parc sausage company, and

1381
01:28:29,130 --> 01:28:32,880
one of the black first black
CEOs. Well, one of the largest

1382
01:28:32,880 --> 01:28:36,600
black owned businesses in
America. And he was aware of

1383
01:28:36,600 --> 01:28:41,250
this, you know, until he parted
his passing in 2010. That, um,

1384
01:28:41,790 --> 01:28:46,110
this is a serious brain drain.
And on top of that, what happens

1385
01:28:46,110 --> 01:28:48,390
is, and we're going to, we're
just gonna be a whole show. So

1386
01:28:48,390 --> 01:28:51,540
I'm just going to touch on this
right quick. Now, we talked

1387
01:28:51,540 --> 01:28:55,590
start talking about reproductive
behaviors, so we can't get you

1388
01:28:55,590 --> 01:29:00,150
not to reproduce, then you start
reproducing interracially

1389
01:29:00,540 --> 01:29:02,970
because if you're taking to
predominantly white

1390
01:29:02,970 --> 01:29:06,090
institutions, your eyes are
meeting somebody else who's

1391
01:29:06,090 --> 01:29:09,240
going to be harder, they're
gonna be of another race. So

1392
01:29:09,240 --> 01:29:10,530
this is you see it, you

1393
01:29:10,530 --> 01:29:13,620
know, it will fix the problem
that way.

1394
01:29:14,250 --> 01:29:17,340
Right, brown Jackson, you saw
that with her where she met her

1395
01:29:17,340 --> 01:29:20,760
husband and she met him and I
believe school, and God and

1396
01:29:20,760 --> 01:29:25,740
Kamala Harris and all these
other I mean, this is and it's

1397
01:29:25,740 --> 01:29:30,960
very Sose sick in a way that
they think they can create an

1398
01:29:30,960 --> 01:29:36,180
acceptable form of black. You
know, and this is what really

1399
01:29:36,600 --> 01:29:38,010
irks me what always

1400
01:29:38,009 --> 01:29:40,499
what always gets me though, is
when we talk about these things,

1401
01:29:40,499 --> 01:29:43,049
and I completely agree with the
statement you're making, but

1402
01:29:43,049 --> 01:29:47,219
when you say they want, it's,
it's hard. It's a hard concept

1403
01:29:47,219 --> 01:29:51,269
for people to grasp that. You're
telling me that people actually

1404
01:29:51,269 --> 01:29:54,929
think this way consciously, and
I don't think it's that

1405
01:29:55,439 --> 01:29:59,339
necessarily. I mean, obviously
the people who are who are

1406
01:29:59,339 --> 01:30:04,439
running and and you're putting
the trauma in place and making

1407
01:30:04,439 --> 01:30:09,809
and using this for psychological
operations. But it's so hard to

1408
01:30:09,809 --> 01:30:12,749
imagine that people would do
that consciously.

1409
01:30:13,890 --> 01:30:16,950
And this is why I love doing
this show, because it's hard for

1410
01:30:16,950 --> 01:30:22,110
me not to think they would do
this. Yeah, I have a, I have a

1411
01:30:22,110 --> 01:30:23,310
diametrically

1412
01:30:23,550 --> 01:30:25,230
opposed, sure, of course,

1413
01:30:25,620 --> 01:30:32,880
view of it that, you know, this
is intentional. Now, what their

1414
01:30:32,880 --> 01:30:39,210
reasoning is, I humanize it is
fight or flight is that it's

1415
01:30:39,210 --> 01:30:45,540
either us or them. And the fat
like said the fact that they do

1416
01:30:45,540 --> 01:30:49,530
it. And we've seen it and they
continue to do it. It's been

1417
01:30:49,530 --> 01:30:52,680
pointed out and they can tell
you to do it. We saw that what

1418
01:30:52,680 --> 01:30:55,680
happened with all we understand
Tuskegee, and everything like

1419
01:30:55,680 --> 01:30:58,320
that, but then they come back
with the vaccine. He was saying,

1420
01:30:58,320 --> 01:30:59,400
so it's like, how can

1421
01:31:00,120 --> 01:31:03,060
we understand you got trauma,
but take it anyway.

1422
01:31:03,479 --> 01:31:06,659
Right there in the in the way
they come at us dancing and rap

1423
01:31:06,659 --> 01:31:10,229
songs. Yeah, I'm saying like,
Yeah, dude, not a serious

1424
01:31:10,229 --> 01:31:12,599
conversation. It's like, oh,
yeah, you're seeing a spike

1425
01:31:12,599 --> 01:31:15,329
protein is like poking, you
know, saying with the game, you

1426
01:31:15,329 --> 01:31:18,029
know, we come through and
display everything up. That's

1427
01:31:18,029 --> 01:31:20,699
what the swipe protein is, like,
why are you talking to me like

1428
01:31:20,699 --> 01:31:25,379
that? And why are you using
Tyler Perry to do it? You see

1429
01:31:25,379 --> 01:31:30,119
what saying that? I cannot? And
I wish I could. I know you're

1430
01:31:30,119 --> 01:31:31,829
kind of like, give you a sample.

1431
01:31:31,860 --> 01:31:35,220
I know you as a friend. To
understand how you feel.

1432
01:31:35,670 --> 01:31:38,760
Completely. And I and I, you
know, especially we're back in

1433
01:31:38,760 --> 01:31:41,280
the show, we're doing this my
head like, oh, okay, yes, of

1434
01:31:41,280 --> 01:31:43,980
course, I get what you're
saying. And that's

1435
01:31:43,980 --> 01:31:47,850
what seductive about it that you
can get. Not you but people can

1436
01:31:47,850 --> 01:31:52,050
say you sure they this is
intentional. I mean, like, when

1437
01:31:52,050 --> 01:31:55,230
I say to you like all the
things, it's kind of like when

1438
01:31:55,230 --> 01:31:59,430
you first seem like this is a
big play. You know, I'll

1439
01:31:59,430 --> 01:32:02,700
everything like the New World
Order wherever else, you kind of

1440
01:32:02,700 --> 01:32:04,470
want to unsee it. It's like,

1441
01:32:05,640 --> 01:32:10,800
it's okay, this became a lot
easier for me in this year, and

1442
01:32:10,800 --> 01:32:15,570
we've talked about this. The
reason I started to look into

1443
01:32:15,570 --> 01:32:19,620
the biggest conspiracy theory of
all Jesus is he was he really Is

1444
01:32:19,620 --> 01:32:25,950
he real? Right? Is because of
the obvious evil that's in the

1445
01:32:25,950 --> 01:32:28,350
world. And if there's evil in
the world, there's got to be a

1446
01:32:28,350 --> 01:32:31,950
counterbalance. So you it's for
me, it's like I can't believe in

1447
01:32:31,950 --> 01:32:35,250
the good of God without knowing
that there's that there's the

1448
01:32:35,250 --> 01:32:37,530
other side. And that's, that's
what's operating.

1449
01:32:38,910 --> 01:32:45,720
And just to lend to you Malines
imagine how every other

1450
01:32:45,720 --> 01:32:50,550
religion, you can't talk about.
You can't talk about Judaism,

1451
01:32:50,640 --> 01:32:54,210
you can't talk about Islam. But
Christians, you can renew up and

1452
01:32:54,210 --> 01:32:58,320
down, like a dome that you can
say whatever you want, you can

1453
01:32:58,320 --> 01:33:01,590
make mockery, all these other
things. If you say that about

1454
01:33:01,590 --> 01:33:06,300
Muhammad, or you're saying or
Judaism, you get cancelled. So

1455
01:33:06,300 --> 01:33:09,960
when you start to see that, it's
like, there's a conspiracy.

1456
01:33:10,020 --> 01:33:16,980
Yeah. So I just say that moving
on, Malcolm X, this is him. And

1457
01:33:16,980 --> 01:33:20,490
he talks about whether we need
to have integrated schools or

1458
01:33:20,490 --> 01:33:22,380
not. And if they're beneficial,

1459
01:33:22,920 --> 01:33:26,940
as your organization encourage
members to attempt to enter

1460
01:33:26,970 --> 01:33:28,710
schools that have been known as
all white,

1461
01:33:29,160 --> 01:33:31,650
the Honorable Elijah Muhammad
doesn't discourage us from

1462
01:33:31,650 --> 01:33:35,640
attaining white schools. But he
does say that it is better for

1463
01:33:35,640 --> 01:33:38,730
us to go to our own schools. And
after we have a thorough

1464
01:33:38,760 --> 01:33:43,470
knowledge of ourselves, if our
own kind, and racial dignity has

1465
01:33:43,470 --> 01:33:47,280
been instilled within us, then
we can go to any one school and

1466
01:33:47,280 --> 01:33:51,630
we will still retain our race,
pride, our racial dignity, and

1467
01:33:51,630 --> 01:33:55,650
we will be able to avoid this
subservient inferiority complex

1468
01:33:55,860 --> 01:34:00,450
that most Negroes have, or that
is instilled within most Negroes

1469
01:34:00,570 --> 01:34:03,810
who received this sort of
integrated education.

1470
01:34:04,020 --> 01:34:07,380
You have the subservient
inferiority complex.

1471
01:34:09,090 --> 01:34:15,420
So that that's what's missing,
is that racial pride? And that

1472
01:34:15,420 --> 01:34:20,340
racial underpinnings? I mean,
we're having kids now. The

1473
01:34:20,340 --> 01:34:23,880
mother takes them back to
daycare at six weeks. They're

1474
01:34:23,880 --> 01:34:28,500
raising the daycare housing
warehousing institution, he will

1475
01:34:28,500 --> 01:34:32,490
say up until public school, then
they go to public schools. No

1476
01:34:32,490 --> 01:34:35,940
sense of community, you know, I
mean, just the average, they say

1477
01:34:35,940 --> 01:34:38,700
the average without making this
about single mothers or what a

1478
01:34:38,700 --> 01:34:42,510
single parent, the parents all
working, the child is raised by,

1479
01:34:42,510 --> 01:34:45,930
you know, the daycare. There's
no sense of community, you pick

1480
01:34:45,930 --> 01:34:47,610
them up at five o'clock, you
bring them home, you feed them,

1481
01:34:47,610 --> 01:34:50,040
you play with them a little bit.
I mean, there's no sense of

1482
01:34:50,070 --> 01:34:53,250
community. The thing was like,
I'm like one of the last

1483
01:34:53,250 --> 01:34:57,480
generations that had that sense
of community, even though it

1484
01:34:57,480 --> 01:35:05,700
wasn't like you were saying it
was it was isn't perfect, but I

1485
01:35:05,700 --> 01:35:09,540
know who I am. So when I went to
school, I wasn't looking to be

1486
01:35:09,540 --> 01:35:13,860
taught who I was. It was I was
looking to be taught who I could

1487
01:35:13,860 --> 01:35:17,790
become. He was saying like it,
but now it's like, go back to

1488
01:35:17,790 --> 01:35:22,110
CRT for me. You're a victim.
That's the oppressor. You're

1489
01:35:22,110 --> 01:35:26,130
saying, and this is your a lot
in life. Imagine being raised

1490
01:35:26,130 --> 01:35:29,910
like that. Nobody's countering
that. So

1491
01:35:30,239 --> 01:35:35,279
except us here on the show.
Hello. We're giving it a good

1492
01:35:35,279 --> 01:35:35,879
go.

1493
01:35:36,599 --> 01:35:39,089
Where you want to remind the
people what we actually do? Yes.

1494
01:35:39,089 --> 01:35:39,359
And

1495
01:35:39,990 --> 01:35:44,400
it was interesting. The pastor
at the church here, said, Hey,

1496
01:35:44,490 --> 01:35:47,130
you know, you talk about these?
What is this? What's this mo

1497
01:35:47,130 --> 01:35:51,600
guy. So you should listen to the
show. And, and I ran through it,

1498
01:35:51,600 --> 01:35:54,210
I said, you know, what we're
doing here is exactly what

1499
01:35:54,210 --> 01:35:56,250
Malcolm X said, first, the

1500
01:35:56,250 --> 01:35:59,490
white man and the black man have
to be able to sit down at the

1501
01:35:59,490 --> 01:36:02,760
same table, the white man has to
feel free to speak his mind

1502
01:36:02,760 --> 01:36:05,550
without hurting the feelings of
that negro. And the so called

1503
01:36:05,550 --> 01:36:08,580
Negro has to feel free to speak
his mind without hurting the

1504
01:36:08,580 --> 01:36:11,370
feelings of the white man, then
they can bring the issues that

1505
01:36:11,370 --> 01:36:13,710
are under the rug out on top of
the table and take an

1506
01:36:13,710 --> 01:36:15,720
intelligent approach to get the
problem solved.

1507
01:36:15,750 --> 01:36:17,460
That's the only way we'll ever
do it.

1508
01:36:19,170 --> 01:36:21,930
And that's exactly what I said.
I said, you know, listen to

1509
01:36:21,930 --> 01:36:25,980
this. And all of a sudden, it
became clear. Ah, that makes a

1510
01:36:25,980 --> 01:36:29,010
lot of sense. So yeah, we just
got to that level right away. No

1511
01:36:29,010 --> 01:36:32,010
problem whatsoever. And I've
learned more because of our open

1512
01:36:32,010 --> 01:36:34,650
and honest conversation than I
ever thought possible. I thought

1513
01:36:34,650 --> 01:36:36,420
I knew. And

1514
01:36:36,450 --> 01:36:40,260
you've given me a lens into a
world I didn't know. No. I mean,

1515
01:36:40,260 --> 01:36:43,230
like we say out Ahmet Deion
Sanders, I know this person or

1516
01:36:43,500 --> 01:36:46,650
it was like, okay, that's how
they operate.

1517
01:36:47,670 --> 01:36:51,480
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, absolutely.
This has value for value. And

1518
01:36:51,480 --> 01:36:55,980
although we've been irregular
recently, you know, as we're

1519
01:36:55,980 --> 01:36:59,790
waving goodbye to 2022 2023 has
a lot of good things in store.

1520
01:36:59,790 --> 01:37:03,000
And we really appreciate people
supporting the show. And the

1521
01:37:03,000 --> 01:37:06,810
only way that is possible, we
cannot take corporate money to

1522
01:37:06,810 --> 01:37:10,050
advertisers will never touch
this. We're lucky to be

1523
01:37:10,050 --> 01:37:13,230
podcasting. 2.0 To even still be
on the air. As far as I'm

1524
01:37:13,230 --> 01:37:16,080
concerned, I'm sure that we'd be
we'd have all kinds of issues.

1525
01:37:16,320 --> 01:37:20,430
So we appreciate the support you
give us. And the way it works is

1526
01:37:20,640 --> 01:37:23,940
whatever you take away from this
podcast, if you find it valuable

1527
01:37:23,940 --> 01:37:27,900
for whatever reason, whatever
that value is to you send it

1528
01:37:27,900 --> 01:37:30,660
back to us. That's all that we
ask. We feel that this is

1529
01:37:30,660 --> 01:37:33,930
something of value. We can't
look at anyone's pocketbook or

1530
01:37:33,930 --> 01:37:38,370
circumstance. So $5 may be a lot
for you, if that's the value,

1531
01:37:38,370 --> 01:37:41,670
and it's a lot for you. We
appreciate it really do. And

1532
01:37:41,670 --> 01:37:44,700
we'd like to thank these people
as our executive and Associate

1533
01:37:44,700 --> 01:37:49,200
Executive producers. So these
are coming from mainly from show

1534
01:37:49,230 --> 01:37:54,360
87 We have the lucky 88 Today,
which the Chinese would consider

1535
01:37:54,390 --> 01:37:58,350
lucky. In other places eight
eight is a whole other whole

1536
01:37:58,350 --> 01:38:03,750
other thing that we've just
realized like at always lucky

1537
01:38:03,750 --> 01:38:06,570
for everybody, but we want to
kick it off by thanking Jim

1538
01:38:06,570 --> 01:38:10,050
Lavin, Jim Lavin. Without a
doubt Bala

1539
01:38:10,110 --> 01:38:15,300
Sakala 20 his blades on the
Impala $1,000

1540
01:38:15,300 --> 01:38:18,540
We could not be more grateful
for that. Jimmy says love what

1541
01:38:18,540 --> 01:38:20,790
you and Adam are doing well,
I've learned a lot. It's been a

1542
01:38:20,790 --> 01:38:23,730
while. But I need to give you a
little summary on this. I can

1543
01:38:24,330 --> 01:38:29,010
expand my spreadsheet here. I'm
sorry. Oh, goodness. This is a

1544
01:38:29,250 --> 01:38:34,230
long long note here. How did I
Oh, I got to reposition this.

1545
01:38:34,230 --> 01:38:37,440
Let me just reformat and even
seen how long some this is

1546
01:38:37,440 --> 01:38:38,610
beautiful. These notes.

1547
01:38:39,030 --> 01:38:40,650
I don't think as long as it no

1548
01:38:40,650 --> 01:38:44,160
no, it's just went off the
screen. Right? Because what

1549
01:38:44,160 --> 01:38:48,270
happens going physically long?
Yeah, exactly. A second. This is

1550
01:38:49,230 --> 01:38:51,780
okay. It's been a while but I
need to give you a little

1551
01:38:51,780 --> 01:38:55,020
something. Something Something
to keep you moving forwards from

1552
01:38:55,020 --> 01:39:00,270
Sir RTR. Oh, taco, Duke of North
East Texas and the Red River

1553
01:39:00,270 --> 01:39:03,630
Valley. And is there something
else he says here? The Red River

1554
01:39:03,630 --> 01:39:07,860
Valley? Oh, yeah. From the no
agenda nation. There we go.

1555
01:39:07,860 --> 01:39:10,680
$1,000 We really appreciate
that. Jim, thank you so much.

1556
01:39:10,860 --> 01:39:13,530
Thank you very much. James
Lawler comes in at 200 for an

1557
01:39:13,530 --> 01:39:16,170
executive producer ship. It's
been too long for me, brothers.

1558
01:39:16,710 --> 01:39:19,650
Back at you. May God bless you
with this and help you in this

1559
01:39:19,650 --> 01:39:23,310
next chapter of life. Karma
love, peace and joy to you and

1560
01:39:23,340 --> 01:39:25,020
Adam as well. Thank you very
much, sir.

1561
01:39:25,710 --> 01:39:29,880
Can I say something right there.
Please do it too long, longer

1562
01:39:29,880 --> 01:39:33,180
show better show? Oh, yeah. No,
I I want to say so I do want

1563
01:39:33,180 --> 01:39:38,340
that people. I listen to 104
separate pieces of information

1564
01:39:38,340 --> 01:39:41,460
to put this show together. So
ranging up to three hours. So

1565
01:39:41,460 --> 01:39:44,670
I'm just saying that longer show
is not that I stopped working on

1566
01:39:44,670 --> 01:39:48,000
it. Is that okay, now I gotta go
back up the age. You know, Adam,

1567
01:39:48,120 --> 01:39:51,990
I'll make the changes up as the
show was going on? Oh, yeah.

1568
01:39:52,200 --> 01:39:55,140
Even with the swapping of clips,
it's because I wanted to make

1569
01:39:55,140 --> 01:39:57,660
the best product possible for
the producers. And

1570
01:39:57,690 --> 01:40:00,000
just just to clarify what I was
talking about. It was too long.

1571
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:04,350
On for the spreadsheet I hadn't
I hadn't formatted it. So I went

1572
01:40:04,350 --> 01:40:04,680
off the

1573
01:40:04,680 --> 01:40:07,650
cold speaking about James. James
is that yeah, yeah, I

1574
01:40:07,650 --> 01:40:12,720
gotcha. I gotcha. Taylor butcher
$200 value for value. How do I

1575
01:40:12,720 --> 01:40:15,660
send a note you just did Taylor.
So do whatever you were doing

1576
01:40:15,660 --> 01:40:17,400
that works perfectly and
appreciate it.

1577
01:40:18,000 --> 01:40:24,000
Also, same wonder mofaz.com mo
fax@gmail.com. If you want to,

1578
01:40:24,030 --> 01:40:28,920
we want to address your actual
note. So we can we will read it

1579
01:40:28,920 --> 01:40:29,610
on the next show.

1580
01:40:29,910 --> 01:40:34,020
Now we have three in a row from
Tavita Willis. I think I'm

1581
01:40:34,020 --> 01:40:37,020
pronouncing that correctly. So
we got a 50, a 50, and a five.

1582
01:40:37,020 --> 01:40:40,140
So that's 105 combined. That is
definitely executive producer

1583
01:40:40,140 --> 01:40:47,310
territory. And Ty Taj Bo says,
I'm binging bringing the value.

1584
01:40:47,310 --> 01:40:50,490
Thank you. And your smooth cat
keep it up. Well, that's

1585
01:40:50,490 --> 01:40:55,230
obviously for you. Oh, there you
go. Kyle, man, I think it's Kyle

1586
01:40:55,230 --> 01:40:58,770
and Kyle. I think it's Kyle $100
No, no, but thank you so much.

1587
01:40:59,220 --> 01:41:05,100
Josiah Hendrickson. 8888 Well,
right on target for this one.

1588
01:41:05,430 --> 01:41:09,060
GBG y'all Wait, did we have a
jingle for GPG? Yes, we do. Yes,

1589
01:41:09,060 --> 01:41:18,090
we do. I remember some of that
we got the GBG we give blackston

1590
01:41:18,090 --> 01:41:23,400
jaw Thank you very much desire
Melissa Reeves 85 dot 89

1591
01:41:23,400 --> 01:41:27,750
services rendered and so forth.
Now this has 16 donations

1592
01:41:27,810 --> 01:41:33,630
16 separate donations, CDs books
and through to fiat way not

1593
01:41:34,620 --> 01:41:37,920
just sending one after another.
I love that. Thank you very

1594
01:41:37,920 --> 01:41:41,310
much, Melissa. That's great
Brandon Archer 85 Free yay and

1595
01:41:41,310 --> 01:41:45,450
Kyrie well, they're they're free
men, I guess for gay is a free

1596
01:41:45,450 --> 01:41:49,710
man for sure, Kyrie Yep, no, we
still got some work to do

1597
01:41:49,710 --> 01:41:54,000
probably. It's not easy for
Kyrie anonymous $60 Thanks

1598
01:41:54,030 --> 01:41:57,450
looking forward to hearing the
next one your wish is has come

1599
01:41:57,450 --> 01:42:00,990
true. Here we are. Thank you
very much anonymous. Dame slant

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01:42:00,990 --> 01:42:03,660
slay me Dame slay me Merry
Christmas to you and your

1601
01:42:03,660 --> 01:42:07,800
families Mo and Adam Cheers to a
better 2023 $50 Dame slimy Thank

1602
01:42:07,800 --> 01:42:11,580
you. She is all over Gitmo
nation no agenda nation mo facts

1603
01:42:11,580 --> 01:42:15,360
everywhere we love her. A big
supporter of of all the shows

1604
01:42:16,380 --> 01:42:19,140
$50 from Benjamin missing you
and the great Adam curry. Here

1605
01:42:19,140 --> 01:42:21,990
we are, you can always count on
us to come back eventually. And

1606
01:42:21,990 --> 01:42:26,490
we're doing our best we really
are. Capital T sends $50 donated

1607
01:42:26,490 --> 01:42:29,910
before I've listened because the
show title already reveals this

1608
01:42:29,910 --> 01:42:33,240
is going to be worth it. Good to
have you back MO That was the

1609
01:42:33,240 --> 01:42:35,670
previous episode was the title
of the previous one. But did we

1610
01:42:35,670 --> 01:42:40,110
title that they end? Oh yeah.
And of course, everybody.

1611
01:42:40,290 --> 01:42:43,830
Everybody loved that. These by
the way our Associate Executive

1612
01:42:43,830 --> 01:42:47,670
produces the $50 level and we
have Edwin Taurus at also asking

1613
01:42:47,670 --> 01:42:57,360
for a GBG we get the black guns.
James Paul us polos who lost

1614
01:42:57,360 --> 01:43:01,050
$50? No, nope, thank you very
much. We have Jermaine Causton

1615
01:43:01,050 --> 01:43:04,440
with $50 says Love your show
wanted to share a relevant story

1616
01:43:04,440 --> 01:43:09,420
experience while visiting New
Orleans. A racially ambiguous

1617
01:43:09,420 --> 01:43:13,380
half black a DOS I assume that
was the culture I grew up in as

1618
01:43:13,380 --> 01:43:17,100
a kid and half white. I've been
to Nola twice, and I've often

1619
01:43:17,100 --> 01:43:19,800
noticed strange reactions from
people because of my skin color

1620
01:43:19,800 --> 01:43:23,520
and hair. I feel somewhat of a
novelty. I learned on museum

1621
01:43:23,520 --> 01:43:27,120
tours about Noah's rich history
and as a melting pot of varying

1622
01:43:27,120 --> 01:43:30,300
cultures. In fact, the Arcadians
of French descent who migrated

1623
01:43:30,300 --> 01:43:33,270
to Louisiana eventually became
Cajuns because of the Louisiana

1624
01:43:33,300 --> 01:43:37,050
Louisiana accent. While staying
in a hostel with my girlfriend,

1625
01:43:37,080 --> 01:43:41,130
I learned from the locals about
the Octoroon. Basically, back in

1626
01:43:41,130 --> 01:43:44,460
the day, brothels used to have
menus based on appearance, hair

1627
01:43:44,460 --> 01:43:48,510
texture, skin color, etc. By the
way, that Thailand still has

1628
01:43:48,510 --> 01:43:52,350
that the most expensive item on
the menu was the Octoroon, who

1629
01:43:52,350 --> 01:43:55,290
was so mixed that you couldn't
tell what her racial background

1630
01:43:55,290 --> 01:43:58,470
was. Thanks for your great work.
I'm doing my best to spread the

1631
01:43:58,470 --> 01:44:01,500
word God bless from Jermaine.
Wow, that's have we talked about

1632
01:44:01,500 --> 01:44:02,970
the Octoroon? I don't remember
this.

1633
01:44:03,000 --> 01:44:07,380
I think we talked about it not
specifically. But in those

1634
01:44:07,380 --> 01:44:11,400
terms. But we talked about it in
passing on the passing episode

1635
01:44:12,300 --> 01:44:12,960
with Pinky.

1636
01:44:13,649 --> 01:44:17,399
Oh, I would say that New Orleans
right now has become incredibly

1637
01:44:17,399 --> 01:44:23,609
woke. So you know, it may not be
the New Orleans of of lore. So

1638
01:44:23,639 --> 01:44:26,069
you know how you're looked at? I
don't know. What do you think?

1639
01:44:26,069 --> 01:44:26,399
Well,

1640
01:44:27,750 --> 01:44:33,180
as he spoke to me, it was New
Orleans was a very mixed place.

1641
01:44:33,630 --> 01:44:36,660
And you had to clear you know,
the occasions and the you had

1642
01:44:36,660 --> 01:44:41,640
the after rooms optimum room
means you're 1/8 Right, right.

1643
01:44:42,120 --> 01:44:45,540
Right, right. Quadroon means
you're 1/4 Black lotto means

1644
01:44:45,540 --> 01:44:48,780
you're half black, and that goes
to one drop room because if you

1645
01:44:48,780 --> 01:44:53,550
want 16th Then you could venture
over and say being white again.

1646
01:44:54,330 --> 01:44:59,070
Fresh that was now saying that's
the legal one drop definition

1647
01:44:59,070 --> 01:45:02,220
for the one drop rule. So this
is why the Octoroon was the

1648
01:45:02,490 --> 01:45:05,400
highest thing and this is the
hierarchy I'm talking about.

1649
01:45:05,550 --> 01:45:08,250
This is just another version of
your different Yeah.

1650
01:45:08,910 --> 01:45:13,440
Right. Different especial.
Octoroon Yeah, got it. Yep. Matt

1651
01:45:13,440 --> 01:45:18,420
be $50 Episode 87 was worth 10
listens right up there with the

1652
01:45:18,420 --> 01:45:21,510
Tupac work. Wow, man. Thank you.
There you go. That's a big

1653
01:45:21,510 --> 01:45:26,520
compliment. Michael Romano $50.
Appreciate that Michael Scott

1654
01:45:26,520 --> 01:45:30,810
are with $50 and he says, here's
another donation. Appreciate

1655
01:45:30,810 --> 01:45:35,160
that. Now, we're gonna get to
the donations below the $50

1656
01:45:35,160 --> 01:45:38,040
level, we still we still a very
predictable we break these

1657
01:45:38,040 --> 01:45:43,380
segments into two genuis wanna
read Carol chases note is 40

1658
01:45:43,769 --> 01:45:46,739
that repeat this is a I put it
on the last show but I put it

1659
01:45:46,739 --> 01:45:49,349
intentionally again for another
show. Probably for there's a

1660
01:45:49,349 --> 01:45:50,609
reason you got to read it. But I

1661
01:45:50,610 --> 01:45:53,100
just I wanted to read it. It was
really beautiful. I'm a listener

1662
01:45:53,100 --> 01:45:55,740
subscriber and donor to the MO
facts with Adam curry. I haven't

1663
01:45:55,740 --> 01:45:57,990
seen an episode drop for a
while. I'm wondering how you're

1664
01:45:57,990 --> 01:46:00,840
doing. Is there anything I can
be praying for for you and your

1665
01:46:00,840 --> 01:46:04,950
family? Carolyn bareness of
southern Colorado? Yeah,

1666
01:46:05,370 --> 01:46:09,780
absolutely. I would appreciate
any prayers that would get our

1667
01:46:09,780 --> 01:46:15,750
show. as regular as possible.
We've had a lot of challenges,

1668
01:46:15,750 --> 01:46:19,260
life challenges, technical
challenges, I mean, health

1669
01:46:19,260 --> 01:46:22,560
challenges, so many things. And
we've we discussed this all the

1670
01:46:22,560 --> 01:46:26,580
time. This is the hardest show
to make. Not that it's hard to

1671
01:46:26,580 --> 01:46:30,480
do once we're doing it. It's
hard to do because it's like a

1672
01:46:30,480 --> 01:46:33,510
wedge is always driven between
us somehow, would you agree?

1673
01:46:34,050 --> 01:46:37,320
I would totally agree with the
spirit some things that you

1674
01:46:37,320 --> 01:46:40,350
can't even explain in the
setting up and recording of the

1675
01:46:40,350 --> 01:46:44,280
show. But I think that one of
the greatest forms of value, if

1676
01:46:44,280 --> 01:46:48,390
not the greatest is to prey on
him for the non praise. We're

1677
01:46:48,390 --> 01:46:51,900
sitting in well wishes because
that's hopefully it manifests

1678
01:46:51,930 --> 01:46:54,720
itself and you're saying what
you're good attention. So keep

1679
01:46:54,720 --> 01:46:57,270
it coming. That's why I put this
note in for a second time I

1680
01:46:57,270 --> 01:47:00,600
appreciate even if you don't
have value to share, you know,

1681
01:47:01,020 --> 01:47:06,180
you always have value to share.
It was a sin prayer in well,

1682
01:47:06,180 --> 01:47:06,480
which is

1683
01:47:06,930 --> 01:47:09,720
that's highly, highly
appreciated. I'll also run

1684
01:47:09,720 --> 01:47:12,900
through our boosters real quick
since the numbers have grown

1685
01:47:12,900 --> 01:47:16,800
since we since we last did the
show, which is nice to see. Dred

1686
01:47:16,800 --> 01:47:22,920
Scott sent us 200,001 Satoshis
which is a huge boost for us and

1687
01:47:22,920 --> 01:47:27,360
of course Dr already does stuff
force in value and with time and

1688
01:47:27,360 --> 01:47:31,110
talent during the chapters. Now
you can pretend this is the

1689
01:47:31,110 --> 01:47:34,560
future by the way. Eventually
just look at the news about Pay

1690
01:47:34,560 --> 01:47:37,710
Pal and and everything else it
make it very difficult to

1691
01:47:37,710 --> 01:47:41,040
support this show in that
manner. So go to new podcast

1692
01:47:41,040 --> 01:47:44,700
apps.com get a one of the
podcast apps that does value for

1693
01:47:44,700 --> 01:47:49,230
value. I'll make it easy for
you. Fountain pod verse cast

1694
01:47:49,230 --> 01:47:52,590
thematic, these are the ones
that I like a lot. You can put

1695
01:47:52,590 --> 01:47:55,530
little bits of Bitcoin in that
you can you can fill it up from

1696
01:47:55,530 --> 01:47:59,010
your cash app, it's not that
hard anymore. Fountain if you've

1697
01:47:59,010 --> 01:48:01,740
never done it before, might be
the easiest to get get the hang

1698
01:48:01,740 --> 01:48:05,160
on. This is this is and you can
and you can do this while you're

1699
01:48:05,160 --> 01:48:07,230
listening. You could say Oh,
this is great. I just want to

1700
01:48:07,230 --> 01:48:09,660
hit the boost button. I want to
send a message and it pops up

1701
01:48:09,840 --> 01:48:12,000
and we can read it back here. So
I'll just run through these

1702
01:48:12,360 --> 01:48:15,690
drips as feeding the fax machine
to see if any new shows pop out.

1703
01:48:16,500 --> 01:48:24,000
As I said I miss you guys and he
says was it go podcasting? Okay,

1704
01:48:24,000 --> 01:48:27,300
very much. Thank you very much
Dr. drab who gives him so many

1705
01:48:27,300 --> 01:48:35,850
waves? We have Jacob Davis
123456 123,456 Thanks for a

1706
01:48:35,850 --> 01:48:38,250
great show. Always appreciate
your measured discussions and

1707
01:48:38,250 --> 01:48:41,100
ability to talk about things
that no one else would. The

1708
01:48:41,100 --> 01:48:45,960
discussion in UAE is especially
enlightening. 100 and 1001 from

1709
01:48:45,960 --> 01:48:49,830
absurd int was just a big fire
emoji. Thank you sir Dwayne

1710
01:48:49,830 --> 01:48:53,490
Milan Psalm who doesn't know
him. Yay. Are they Fantastic?

1711
01:48:53,490 --> 01:48:58,440
Well worth waiting for just wow.
90,000 SATs and he sent that

1712
01:48:58,440 --> 01:49:02,730
from CAST ematic iOS only but if
you like overcast you'll love

1713
01:49:02,730 --> 01:49:09,480
cast ematic Hendrix 88,888 right
for this show. Here's where my

1714
01:49:09,480 --> 01:49:14,760
episode where's my episode? 88
He says here it is. Here it is.

1715
01:49:16,350 --> 01:49:22,470
We have 80,085 from RG BTC as
always fascinating conversation.

1716
01:49:22,470 --> 01:49:33,060
I'd love some love some mo
karma. And you go you've got JL

1717
01:49:33,270 --> 01:49:38,250
gr jail jail ta from Texas. I
guess I sent three in a row

1718
01:49:38,250 --> 01:49:43,830
51,000 41,000 35,225 for another
one and 35,000 so that's

1719
01:49:43,830 --> 01:49:46,680
probably worth a big baller
combined nice.

1720
01:49:47,550 --> 01:49:51,930
20 is blades on the Impala
33,333

1721
01:49:51,930 --> 01:49:54,960
The magic numbers from sarzo
Thank you always for giving me

1722
01:49:54,960 --> 01:49:57,870
new perspective paying attention
to everything that's right. The

1723
01:49:57,870 --> 01:50:03,330
truth will reveal itself. Jean
Ever 33,000 says boost boost

1724
01:50:03,330 --> 01:50:07,530
boost we got you ma'am. And
there's JL ta TX T again

1725
01:50:07,530 --> 01:50:12,690
90 29,500 Merlin with 20,000
coming from pod friend haven't

1726
01:50:12,690 --> 01:50:15,660
seen that one in a while Good to
see it. Hey Adam not sure if you

1727
01:50:15,660 --> 01:50:19,110
can use this but the chorus from
hell to the knob by Bishop

1728
01:50:19,110 --> 01:50:23,490
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Alright, so with schools being
integrated, sports had to be

1780
01:53:46,410 --> 01:53:51,360
integrated as well. And I think
that's why we heard Jerry Jones

1781
01:53:51,360 --> 01:53:56,760
say he got in trouble with his
coaches. They stand to benefit

1782
01:53:56,790 --> 01:54:03,660
from the increased or increased
pool of talent that was right in

1783
01:54:03,660 --> 01:54:08,280
their art yourself. So I'm sure
they had no issue, you know,

1784
01:54:08,310 --> 01:54:12,090
other than, you know, the
typical racer things, but they

1785
01:54:12,120 --> 01:54:17,070
stood to get a lot of talent to
come to that school. Now we got

1786
01:54:17,070 --> 01:54:21,780
to fast for this is the football
game that broke racial barriers.

1787
01:54:21,990 --> 01:54:25,350
And it was against Alabama,
which was a predominantly white

1788
01:54:25,350 --> 01:54:29,130
institution that hadn't
integrated yet against USC

1789
01:54:29,130 --> 01:54:32,010
University and University of
Southern California who had

1790
01:54:32,040 --> 01:54:37,020
emigrated well before Alabama
had. And this is another setup.

1791
01:54:37,860 --> 01:54:41,310
As you will hear when we go
through these next five clips of

1792
01:54:41,340 --> 01:54:45,660
these things are not
happenstance. They're oftentimes

1793
01:54:45,690 --> 01:54:48,900
orchestrated. And let's go ahead
and get into clip number 23.

1794
01:54:54,149 --> 01:54:58,109
In 1954, Brown versus Board of
Education overturned the

1795
01:54:58,109 --> 01:55:02,129
separate but equal policy in
school rules and the 1964 Civil

1796
01:55:02,129 --> 01:55:05,699
Rights Act ended public racial
discrimination. But although the

1797
01:55:05,699 --> 01:55:09,179
federal government mandated
integration, attitudes hadn't

1798
01:55:09,179 --> 01:55:12,989
changed, and in the south Jim
Crow continued to haunt college

1799
01:55:12,989 --> 01:55:17,609
football, as late as 1969, the
southern most teams in the SEC,

1800
01:55:17,699 --> 01:55:19,409
were still completely white.

1801
01:55:20,280 --> 01:55:26,430
A lot of great players from the
South were either they either

1802
01:55:26,430 --> 01:55:30,750
had to play at the historically
black institutions, or if they

1803
01:55:30,750 --> 01:55:33,930
wanted to play in the major
universities, they had to go out

1804
01:55:33,930 --> 01:55:36,750
west go up north. So a lot of
talent was leaving the

1805
01:55:36,750 --> 01:55:37,830
Southeastern Conference.

1806
01:55:38,399 --> 01:55:41,969
The South was starting to see
some of their programs go down a

1807
01:55:41,969 --> 01:55:44,759
little bit, but the University
of Alabama maintain their

1808
01:55:44,759 --> 01:55:47,249
dominance. They won three
national championships in

1809
01:55:47,249 --> 01:55:53,129
1961 64 and 65, and should have
won in 66. So what this did was

1810
01:55:53,129 --> 01:55:56,309
it created in the minds of
Alabama football fans and fans

1811
01:55:56,309 --> 01:55:59,609
in the SEC, the idea that you
didn't need to desegregate.

1812
01:55:59,969 --> 01:56:01,439
Yeah. Okay.

1813
01:56:01,440 --> 01:56:02,610
This is great history.

1814
01:56:03,479 --> 01:56:07,289
Yeah, it seems all connected.
You know, starting with brown,

1815
01:56:07,769 --> 01:56:12,209
you see the ripple effects of
that one piece of legislation

1816
01:56:12,479 --> 01:56:19,709
and court action to affect all
walks of life. So, the funny

1817
01:56:19,709 --> 01:56:26,849
thing is, is that the SEC, the
southern eff was southern. Ah,

1818
01:56:26,879 --> 01:56:32,579
I'm gonna lose my sports card.
South ASun Conference, I would

1819
01:56:32,579 --> 01:56:37,109
think it was what stands for
they're right in the south,

1820
01:56:37,439 --> 01:56:42,539
where Texas that can include
that Louisiana, Georgia,

1821
01:56:42,539 --> 01:56:47,849
Alabama, Mississippi, Florida.
That's football talent, you

1822
01:56:47,849 --> 01:56:52,049
know, ground zero, right? And
these teams are like, No,

1823
01:56:52,049 --> 01:56:55,649
Alabama was like, We don't care.
We read the wind with white

1824
01:56:55,649 --> 01:57:00,329
talent to integrate and that
that goes to show you that they

1825
01:57:00,329 --> 01:57:03,779
read the put winning over
breaking their tradition for

1826
01:57:03,779 --> 01:57:07,469
whatever reason, this is a
breaking their traditions. And

1827
01:57:07,469 --> 01:57:10,229
that's where they kept it and we
see this even with sports today,

1828
01:57:10,229 --> 01:57:14,729
there are quote unquote, white
teams. Even to this day, the

1829
01:57:14,729 --> 01:57:18,479
Utah Jazz for instance, you
know, they like having a

1830
01:57:18,479 --> 01:57:24,359
predominantly white star. Um,
Dallas Mavericks is another one.

1831
01:57:24,869 --> 01:57:29,219
Mark Cuban loves having a white
star. You know, that's kind of

1832
01:57:29,249 --> 01:57:32,699
like dirt Nowitzki. And now,
Luca dachas Yeah,

1833
01:57:32,730 --> 01:57:35,520
I mean really think he loves
having a white star is that he

1834
01:57:35,520 --> 01:57:39,390
that that he loves that? Boy
Does he think he just loves

1835
01:57:39,390 --> 01:57:40,320
having a star.

1836
01:57:41,340 --> 01:57:47,580
Trust me in sports. Because it's
this it's this phenomenon called

1837
01:57:47,580 --> 01:57:51,000
the Great White hype. I don't
know if you heard it, you start

1838
01:57:51,000 --> 01:57:54,990
hearing in boxing or whatever.
Yeah. Right. You're saying like,

1839
01:57:55,020 --> 01:57:59,040
is he not that he personally
feels that way. But he

1840
01:57:59,100 --> 01:58:03,570
understands his demographic. And
he's fans. And if you can have a

1841
01:58:03,570 --> 01:58:06,120
star I mean, you have to be
first crop qualification is a

1842
01:58:06,120 --> 01:58:09,750
star. It was that you had to be
great at what you're doing. But

1843
01:58:09,750 --> 01:58:14,040
then we have Boston Larry Bird
the same thing that Larry Bird

1844
01:58:14,040 --> 01:58:16,230
and you're saying in Boston hit
a little different you were

1845
01:58:16,230 --> 01:58:19,620
saying with the Combine that
with the city, the city's

1846
01:58:19,650 --> 01:58:23,100
attitude, and it being a white
athlete, right. So that's why

1847
01:58:23,100 --> 01:58:26,370
I'm saying Utah you're saying
you have John Stockton is

1848
01:58:26,370 --> 01:58:27,120
noticeable

1849
01:58:27,150 --> 01:58:29,910
even for me I look at who is
using this team? Oh, that's

1850
01:58:29,910 --> 01:58:30,540
Utah. Okay.

1851
01:58:31,680 --> 01:58:34,860
For whatever reason, like I
said, this is you see this

1852
01:58:34,860 --> 01:58:35,400
happens so

1853
01:58:35,400 --> 01:58:38,070
interesting, called the jazz,
you know, is where I would say

1854
01:58:38,070 --> 01:58:41,430
that few jazz greats were white.
That's kind of

1855
01:58:41,490 --> 01:58:43,770
interesting. Know where they
tripped. They got they, they

1856
01:58:43,770 --> 01:58:44,490
moved from

1857
01:58:44,760 --> 01:58:47,700
New Orleans. Oh, there you go.
But still, they used

1858
01:58:47,700 --> 01:58:50,910
to be the New Orleans jazz, but
they kept the jazz out that that

1859
01:58:50,910 --> 01:58:54,510
will baffle me of the key like,
why do you Utah Jazz, like the

1860
01:58:54,510 --> 01:58:59,760
names? They left the jazz out?
Because usually the city mascot

1861
01:58:59,760 --> 01:59:03,930
is something, you know, lends to
what the state is known for, you

1862
01:59:03,930 --> 01:59:10,320
know, a few jazz greats come
from Utah, which. So moving

1863
01:59:10,320 --> 01:59:15,060
forward, you see what's playing
out here is that the

1864
01:59:15,090 --> 01:59:19,710
predominantly the schools it
remained to refuse to integrate,

1865
01:59:19,860 --> 01:59:23,010
are starting to drop in status.
But they needed a little help.

1866
01:59:23,040 --> 01:59:25,320
We were saying to push them down
as well as you go here. And I

1867
01:59:25,320 --> 01:59:27,030
think He clipped 24 I believe.

1868
01:59:27,930 --> 01:59:31,530
Not only was Alabama enjoying
success with all white football

1869
01:59:31,530 --> 01:59:33,810
teams, but the state was
governed by a man who

1870
01:59:33,810 --> 01:59:37,290
deliberately played the race
card to win his election. And

1871
01:59:37,290 --> 01:59:39,930
who kept a close public
relationship with Coach Paul

1872
01:59:39,930 --> 01:59:40,380
Brian.

1873
01:59:41,520 --> 01:59:45,990
Fairly that was George Wallace
this way of advertising. See

1874
01:59:45,990 --> 01:59:51,270
what an all white football team
can do. What we didn't know was

1875
01:59:51,360 --> 01:59:54,150
the relationship between bear
Brian and George Wallace was

1876
01:59:54,150 --> 01:59:59,550
very uneasy, that in fact, Brian
had been needling and pushing

1877
01:59:59,550 --> 02:00:02,910
and and probing tried to
integrate the Alabama football

1878
02:00:02,910 --> 02:00:04,050
team for many years.

1879
02:00:04,710 --> 02:00:08,490
We were conspiring as much as we
could without rattling the

1880
02:00:08,700 --> 02:00:13,170
governor's situation. In other
games video speaks well of Coach

1881
02:00:13,170 --> 02:00:17,490
Bryant, we're state institution
and the governor is not ready

1882
02:00:17,490 --> 02:00:21,420
for integration yet. A lot of
our funds come from the state of

1883
02:00:21,420 --> 02:00:25,560
Alabama from the Capitol in we
would like to be successful, but

1884
02:00:25,620 --> 02:00:28,380
we're going to hurt the general
public. The students and

1885
02:00:28,380 --> 02:00:28,920
faculty.

1886
02:00:31,140 --> 02:00:36,090
We weren't conspiring. Yes, I
heard it. And you know who

1887
02:00:36,090 --> 02:00:39,150
George Wallace says, I don't
know if you know better Brian is

1888
02:00:39,150 --> 02:00:43,500
or not Wallace. Yes, Brian. No.
You've seen him before. You seen

1889
02:00:43,500 --> 02:00:48,900
his image and likeness in a
movie Forrest Gump. Remember the

1890
02:00:48,900 --> 02:00:52,890
football coach of Alabama? Yeah,
sure. Sure. Sure. That was the

1891
02:00:52,920 --> 02:00:56,970
that was him. That was he's
known for that hounds. Tooth

1892
02:00:57,660 --> 02:00:58,410
hat.

1893
02:00:59,580 --> 02:01:01,380
Okay, I gotcha. I gotcha. And

1894
02:01:01,410 --> 02:01:05,850
in here, I think they're doing a
little bit of cleaning up his

1895
02:01:05,850 --> 02:01:11,700
image with this piece as well
because he's very valuable to

1896
02:01:11,700 --> 02:01:17,250
the Allah University of
Alabama's legacy. So you see

1897
02:01:17,250 --> 02:01:20,730
that you have to clean up like
kind of rewrite history is

1898
02:01:20,730 --> 02:01:23,550
starting right not saying he
wasn't pushing for talent, but

1899
02:01:23,550 --> 02:01:26,010
they make you're saying like
that, you know, this benevolent

1900
02:01:28,620 --> 02:01:32,400
person that has this insight to
say, You know what, we need to

1901
02:01:32,790 --> 02:01:36,510
integrate schools. Yeah, yeah.
Maybe you hear if you listen to

1902
02:01:37,560 --> 02:01:39,600
the nuance and how they're
saying, oh, you know, we were

1903
02:01:39,600 --> 02:01:44,820
conspiring and him it was really
getting on the same page

1904
02:01:44,820 --> 02:01:49,530
together. No, no big deal. Just
little conspiracy. No, he they

1905
02:01:49,530 --> 02:01:54,720
said I didn't say it. All with
the conspiracy.

1906
02:01:56,399 --> 02:01:59,879
Despite championships in the
early 60s, the racial factor was

1907
02:01:59,879 --> 02:02:04,319
beginning to hurt Alabama
stature. Bryan's team finished

1908
02:02:04,319 --> 02:02:08,699
the 1966 season unbeaten and
untied yet placed third in the

1909
02:02:08,699 --> 02:02:13,709
polls. The nation was simply not
going to reward an all white

1910
02:02:13,709 --> 02:02:18,689
team and had become the flagship
for segregation. By the late

1911
02:02:18,689 --> 02:02:22,949
1960s, the Crimson Tide was
turning. And after a subpar 69

1912
02:02:22,949 --> 02:02:25,949
season, they were no longer
reminiscent of a championship

1913
02:02:25,949 --> 02:02:26,279
team

1914
02:02:29,100 --> 02:02:32,490
is 69 there were people calling
for his resignation, he said

1915
02:02:32,580 --> 02:02:35,370
game had passed and by it was
time for Coach Bryant to go.

1916
02:02:35,880 --> 02:02:38,220
But we knew we had to get
bigger, stronger, faster

1917
02:02:38,220 --> 02:02:43,260
players. And a large majority of
the bigger, stronger, faster

1918
02:02:43,260 --> 02:02:45,420
player for Black. We did

1919
02:02:45,420 --> 02:02:50,370
have a African American on the
team. But he was a freshman and

1920
02:02:50,370 --> 02:02:55,350
didn't dress, Wilbur Jackson, I
think it was coming. And Coach

1921
02:02:55,350 --> 02:02:58,950
Bryant was you know, allowing it
to happen slowly, it

1922
02:02:58,950 --> 02:03:02,610
was finally time for Bryan to
make his move to convince people

1923
02:03:02,610 --> 02:03:05,790
that in order to start winning,
again, Alabama was going to have

1924
02:03:05,790 --> 02:03:09,480
to fully commit to integration.
But to do so he needed to set an

1925
02:03:09,480 --> 02:03:09,990
example.

1926
02:03:17,220 --> 02:03:21,570
So once again, you hear this,
they need it bigger, stronger,

1927
02:03:21,570 --> 02:03:25,740
faster players and, and a large
number of those were black

1928
02:03:25,740 --> 02:03:30,780
players. And another thing I
want to point to was go back

1929
02:03:30,900 --> 02:03:33,870
because I want to Chris, you
don't know sports, college

1930
02:03:33,870 --> 02:03:38,670
football, at least in this
error. And my up until maybe I

1931
02:03:38,670 --> 02:03:44,400
think like maybe 1015 years ago,
the AP voted on Associated Press

1932
02:03:44,400 --> 02:03:47,460
voted on who was the number one
team, you have a bunch of sports

1933
02:03:47,460 --> 02:03:50,940
writers and they vote whoever
got the most votes was the

1934
02:03:50,940 --> 02:03:56,550
champion. James how he could go
undefeated. I'm tired become

1935
02:03:56,550 --> 02:03:59,550
number three, because you heard
him say America couldn't stand

1936
02:03:59,550 --> 02:04:05,130
for, you know, him winning,
being segregated. So they had to

1937
02:04:05,130 --> 02:04:08,970
lean when you talk about, hey,
this is the day the media was

1938
02:04:08,970 --> 02:04:12,180
leaning on Alabama because once
you start winning national

1939
02:04:12,180 --> 02:04:14,760
championships, the top players
don't want to come to your

1940
02:04:14,760 --> 02:04:17,820
school anymore. I feel like
well, you know, they're not that

1941
02:04:18,000 --> 02:04:21,750
the players want to go play at
the best school. And that

1942
02:04:21,750 --> 02:04:24,780
started to make the
deterioration of the of the

1943
02:04:24,780 --> 02:04:27,630
school and that's why he felt
hard pressed to take action in

1944
02:04:27,630 --> 02:04:31,200
the way he did. Got it. So I'm
just showing you how to meet not

1945
02:04:31,200 --> 02:04:35,550
in the media that was the media
interfering to push their their

1946
02:04:35,550 --> 02:04:39,240
narrative but of course, so I
think we start at 25 Let's go

1947
02:04:39,240 --> 02:04:40,410
ahead and go to 26.

1948
02:04:44,610 --> 02:04:48,690
The number one team in the 60s
USC had a fully integrated

1949
02:04:48,690 --> 02:04:51,510
roster, including a black
quarterback and a black

1950
02:04:51,510 --> 02:04:56,220
assistant coach one day prior to
the 1970 season. Head Coach John

1951
02:04:56,220 --> 02:04:59,670
McKay asked his assistant Craig
Furtick for a lift to LAX

1952
02:04:59,670 --> 02:05:01,980
airport. For an unexpected
meeting,

1953
02:05:02,549 --> 02:05:06,149
in walks coach Brian with a
houndstooth hat on the back

1954
02:05:06,149 --> 02:05:13,349
here. And he walked in and they
Hi, Paul. Hi, John. Paul, what's

1955
02:05:13,349 --> 02:05:17,339
this about? John, how y'all
like, come down to Birmingham

1956
02:05:17,339 --> 02:05:22,289
play us and the opener. Go says,
What are you gonna pay me? He

1957
02:05:22,289 --> 02:05:27,329
says $150,000 goes smoke his
cigar. And he says, Tell you

1958
02:05:27,329 --> 02:05:30,089
what, Paul will come down and
play you in the old interview,

1959
02:05:30,089 --> 02:05:32,699
come out the following year and
play us in LA. And I'll give you

1960
02:05:32,699 --> 02:05:36,779
250. And I'm sitting there and
they said, bring us another

1961
02:05:36,779 --> 02:05:40,199
round here. And I set him on
history. And I didn't realize

1962
02:05:40,199 --> 02:05:40,889
that at the time.

1963
02:05:42,870 --> 02:05:47,760
There's a conspiracy, right?
Come down and beat the crap out

1964
02:05:47,760 --> 02:05:52,590
of us right at our home stadium
in front of all the races, white

1965
02:05:52,590 --> 02:05:56,130
folks. And they'll get the
picture that we need black

1966
02:05:56,130 --> 02:05:59,550
players not taking into fat what
no black players are gonna go

1967
02:05:59,580 --> 02:06:01,890
black players we're gonna go
through while they're there,

1968
02:06:01,890 --> 02:06:07,770
none of that. We it's for my
benefit, and then continue with

1969
02:06:07,770 --> 02:06:11,910
my legacy in my career. And
Amy's done over drinks. And this

1970
02:06:11,910 --> 02:06:20,850
was what year 1971 I want to
say, Wow, I believe I believe

1971
02:06:20,850 --> 02:06:25,050
was 71. So I'm just like, 71,
not years before I was born.

1972
02:06:25,080 --> 02:06:28,110
I hope a lot of sports fans out
there paying attention to this.

1973
02:06:29,099 --> 02:06:32,789
This is why this is why sports
is one of the most fascinating

1974
02:06:34,949 --> 02:06:41,699
draws for entertainment, because
it's actually gone field court

1975
02:06:41,699 --> 02:06:46,709
wherever else and made a best
man win. Right? That's why

1976
02:06:46,739 --> 02:06:51,599
sports is what I call a level
playing field is legitly a level

1977
02:06:51,599 --> 02:06:56,309
playing field? Because sports
has a rulebook. And society has

1978
02:06:56,309 --> 02:06:58,619
a rulebook. If you want to play
it, right, it's called the

1979
02:06:58,619 --> 02:07:02,369
Constitution in America, you are
saying is blessed play by the

1980
02:07:02,369 --> 02:07:05,669
rulebook? That's all we're
saying separate but equal. Let's

1981
02:07:05,669 --> 02:07:10,679
play by the rulebook. We have
this you have 11 players we have

1982
02:07:10,679 --> 02:07:13,649
11 players, you get to wear a
helmet we get to wear a helmet

1983
02:07:13,649 --> 02:07:19,229
you know it's best and we'll see
how it plays out. But as you see

1984
02:07:19,259 --> 02:07:24,119
is conspiracies that go on
mannequins. This is an ending

1985
02:07:24,119 --> 02:07:27,509
footwear that for a greater good
who knows. But nobody is

1986
02:07:27,509 --> 02:07:30,539
benevolent in this. Oh, you
know, Bear Bryant woke up one

1987
02:07:30,539 --> 02:07:34,319
more. You know what? I have a
moral obligation and let black

1988
02:07:34,319 --> 02:07:40,289
players play for me. No, it was
for his his wish in. Nothing

1989
02:07:40,289 --> 02:07:43,199
wrong with that being self
serving. I have no issue with

1990
02:07:43,199 --> 02:07:46,439
that is the fact don't sell it
like something else. That's the

1991
02:07:46,439 --> 02:07:49,679
issue I have with, you know,
with anybody. Right? But

1992
02:07:49,680 --> 02:07:54,780
it's not like that as changed in
2020 to 2023. It's just you

1993
02:07:54,780 --> 02:07:58,200
know, maybe, well, here we go.
We're talking about sports right

1994
02:07:58,200 --> 02:08:01,680
now. With with the current
story.

1995
02:08:02,310 --> 02:08:05,880
And this is why Jerry Jones was
such in such a predicament

1996
02:08:05,880 --> 02:08:11,220
because he has to sign top level
black talent to come play for

1997
02:08:11,220 --> 02:08:15,600
Dallas, his quarterback is
black. You see I'm saying that

1998
02:08:15,600 --> 02:08:18,630
the CEO of his team, being the
quarterback that's the CEO of it

1999
02:08:18,630 --> 02:08:21,750
is a black man. He was saying he
I think he's biracial. But still

2000
02:08:21,750 --> 02:08:26,550
yet still he he's black. The top
play offense, everybody's saying

2001
02:08:26,550 --> 02:08:31,050
like 8070 85% and teams, but if
you If this carries out the

2002
02:08:31,050 --> 02:08:34,350
wrong way, he could have mutiny
right on his team. And this was

2003
02:08:34,350 --> 02:08:39,240
the goal. I believe in my view
of when that attack was said on

2004
02:08:39,240 --> 02:08:43,410
here is like let's shake up the
you know, the Dallas Cowboys

2005
02:08:43,440 --> 02:08:46,170
nails, and maybe even the whole
NFL.

2006
02:08:47,790 --> 02:08:50,820
Well, I you know, again, you
know, I'm not a sports guy, but

2007
02:08:50,820 --> 02:08:54,000
maybe I'm gonna start paying
more attention, not to the game.

2008
02:08:55,410 --> 02:08:57,060
Oh, watch for all the other
stuff.

2009
02:08:57,660 --> 02:09:00,330
This is why they can talk about
it for the six days. They're not

2010
02:09:00,330 --> 02:09:04,470
playing. Talking about it's a
whole channel called ESPN, they

2011
02:09:04,470 --> 02:09:08,400
got to fill it up. It's four or
five ESPN? What are they talking

2012
02:09:08,400 --> 02:09:11,130
about? All of these sub
narratives, everything I mean,

2013
02:09:11,130 --> 02:09:16,230
it's politics and, and race and
gender and all other things. And

2014
02:09:16,230 --> 02:09:19,290
you see is nothing new. That's
why I like something that's

2015
02:09:19,470 --> 02:09:22,110
cabinet was something new
understand? No, these things

2016
02:09:22,110 --> 02:09:25,920
have been going all the way go
back to Jack Johnson, USA, like,

2017
02:09:26,070 --> 02:09:29,760
you know, unboxing the years in
the early 1900s There sure sure

2018
02:09:29,790 --> 02:09:32,460
there was legislation you're
saying creating demand at you

2019
02:09:32,460 --> 02:09:36,420
know, to entrap him in certain
ways. I'm just saying this is

2020
02:09:36,420 --> 02:09:41,430
bigger sports, but sports is a
huge thing in America. It's a

2021
02:09:41,430 --> 02:09:46,350
huge, very huge thing. So let's
if you add something to it, if

2022
02:09:46,350 --> 02:09:49,080
not, we can go and continue on
what on a part because yeah,

2023
02:09:49,080 --> 02:09:49,290
what

2024
02:09:49,290 --> 02:09:52,830
I was gonna say is I have to
think and I'd love to hear from

2025
02:09:52,830 --> 02:09:57,600
some of our producers. If this
is also the case with with

2026
02:09:57,600 --> 02:10:01,230
soccer as an example, if you
look at the French Team let me

2027
02:10:01,230 --> 02:10:04,110
know if you if you had one
second to look at any any saw

2028
02:10:04,110 --> 02:10:08,700
World Cup soccer French team all
black guys all black now they're

2029
02:10:09,300 --> 02:10:14,190
African, right from origin of
course, which is all French. But

2030
02:10:14,190 --> 02:10:18,510
there's I wonder I wonder how
that plays into into sports in

2031
02:10:18,510 --> 02:10:23,190
general. That's not it, I don't
know,

2032
02:10:23,220 --> 02:10:27,450
it plays a huge part it plays a
huge part. And that's just think

2033
02:10:27,480 --> 02:10:32,190
if you didn't take some of the
top NFL and NBA black players

2034
02:10:32,220 --> 02:10:36,570
and start teaching a soccer age
for nobody would beat American

2035
02:10:36,570 --> 02:10:40,710
soccer. I mean, this just that.
There's other sports to play

2036
02:10:40,710 --> 02:10:44,130
here, especially for that
segment of society, you're

2037
02:10:44,130 --> 02:10:48,000
saying that has these superior
athletic talents. So it's like

2038
02:10:48,000 --> 02:10:52,230
once you start getting that
factored in, and if soccer is

2039
02:10:52,230 --> 02:10:56,610
super expensive to you know,
America will be dominant in in

2040
02:10:56,610 --> 02:11:00,390
soccer the same way Europeans,
Europeans got on a quick, you

2041
02:11:00,390 --> 02:11:04,590
know, they said that they don't
stick to their national players.

2042
02:11:05,100 --> 02:11:08,640
They go they go outside, you
know, racially national limits

2043
02:11:08,640 --> 02:11:13,230
that morning, but they don't
care. They go wherever the

2044
02:11:13,230 --> 02:11:15,150
talent is, which that's how it
should be.

2045
02:11:17,610 --> 02:11:21,000
I'm not so sure. That's why I'm
What do you mean, I'm not so

2046
02:11:21,000 --> 02:11:23,610
sure that they only do where the
talent is? I'm not sure. Sure.

2047
02:11:23,610 --> 02:11:27,030
I'd want to see if there's any
racial element to some other

2048
02:11:27,030 --> 02:11:30,690
sports like that the outside of
the US, the US I get it. Right.

2049
02:11:30,780 --> 02:11:34,410
I'm just curious. Um, this seems
there's a lot more to sports

2050
02:11:34,410 --> 02:11:36,570
than I ever considered,
certainly in the United States.

2051
02:11:37,380 --> 02:11:39,570
And if you got to put together a
long distance team, you gotta go

2052
02:11:39,570 --> 02:11:46,710
get the kings. If you're gonna
show us that, like 123450 I

2053
02:11:46,710 --> 02:11:48,660
think it's kidding. Just
kidding. Racing TV, right? Read

2054
02:11:48,660 --> 02:11:50,940
it to you. Right, right. It's
like they're done given

2055
02:11:50,940 --> 02:11:53,760
Highfather that everybody else
is running. You're saying like,

2056
02:11:54,510 --> 02:11:58,440
so I'm just saying is, with
genetics, you have certain

2057
02:11:58,470 --> 02:12:04,290
genes, you're saying that, that
bring themselves out, you know,

2058
02:12:04,290 --> 02:12:07,890
to show superior talent and
started things. Yeah, so let's

2059
02:12:07,890 --> 02:12:10,980
go and wrap up with the last
last clip and he said

2060
02:12:13,050 --> 02:12:18,060
on September 12 1970, USC met
Alabama on legions field for

2061
02:12:18,060 --> 02:12:21,000
what would become the first
integrated college football game

2062
02:12:21,000 --> 02:12:23,610
play in Alabama. I wasn't

2063
02:12:23,610 --> 02:12:29,910
in a game already. Oh, and we
all know some kale had a bit of

2064
02:12:29,910 --> 02:12:33,150
a field day and that gave Sam
cutting them just ran up and

2065
02:12:33,150 --> 02:12:33,900
down the field.

2066
02:12:35,040 --> 02:12:37,500
We played eight linebackers
trying to find one to come back

2067
02:12:37,500 --> 02:12:39,150
from and we know found when they
can tackle.

2068
02:12:41,700 --> 02:12:46,470
Cunningham ran for 135 yards and
score two touchdowns on only 12

2069
02:12:46,470 --> 02:12:51,360
carries. The final score was 42
to 21 Crimson Tide and lost the

2070
02:12:51,360 --> 02:12:54,810
football game, but was starting
to win the war on segregation.

2071
02:12:55,320 --> 02:13:01,860
Bryant reacted to this game by
shaking John McCain's hand at

2072
02:13:01,860 --> 02:13:06,030
halftime and thanking him for
bringing his team all the way

2073
02:13:06,030 --> 02:13:12,090
out to Birmingham to help his
program, quote, help our program

2074
02:13:12,120 --> 02:13:12,720
and quote

2075
02:13:13,620 --> 02:13:18,660
that sort of signal the
beginning for for recruitment of

2076
02:13:18,660 --> 02:13:22,170
African American players in the
Southeastern Conference. And I

2077
02:13:22,170 --> 02:13:25,590
know a lot has been written a
lot of speculation, but I don't

2078
02:13:25,590 --> 02:13:31,770
have any question in my mind
that it was all planned by coach

2079
02:13:31,770 --> 02:13:32,100
Brian.

2080
02:13:33,149 --> 02:13:38,339
He's got a spot in Alabama like
Martin Luther King doesn't

2081
02:13:38,339 --> 02:13:46,469
worry. He left, he left a legacy
for now will be matched.

2082
02:13:53,189 --> 02:14:00,749
So now we got to get to the 5000
pound gorilla in the room, or

2083
02:14:00,749 --> 02:14:11,489
elephant. All right. Genetics
and sports. Why is it that 85%

2084
02:14:11,489 --> 02:14:18,119
In the NBA is is black American?
You know, why is it in NFL? It's

2085
02:14:18,119 --> 02:14:22,979
such high percentage. You know,
saying well, I'm from a certain

2086
02:14:22,979 --> 02:14:24,359
location in America.

2087
02:14:24,840 --> 02:14:30,900
My answer would be similar to
Why are some of the best soccer

2088
02:14:30,900 --> 02:14:35,670
players from poor South American
countries is because that's when

2089
02:14:35,670 --> 02:14:37,800
the minute they're born that's
the only thing they can really

2090
02:14:37,800 --> 02:14:41,940
excel at. And, and that's what
they're doing all day long. They

2091
02:14:41,940 --> 02:14:48,000
live, eat, breathe soccer, and
that creates great players. I

2092
02:14:48,000 --> 02:14:54,030
would say there's some of that
with with American sports. It's

2093
02:14:54,030 --> 02:14:57,210
just it's your I think it's
social circumstances and what

2094
02:14:57,210 --> 02:15:01,560
you focus on to get out pa 30
More and more often than not

2095
02:15:01,560 --> 02:15:02,340
probably poverty,

2096
02:15:02,910 --> 02:15:07,050
that I agree with you that is
nature means nurture, nurture

2097
02:15:07,050 --> 02:15:12,390
verse, but then when nature also
plays a role in it, because this

2098
02:15:12,390 --> 02:15:15,960
is what nobody wants to talk
about in sports, and this is why

2099
02:15:15,990 --> 02:15:20,910
Colin Kaepernick he played with
this trope and meme, NFL being a

2100
02:15:20,910 --> 02:15:24,810
plantation and that kind of
thing. But they measured these

2101
02:15:24,810 --> 02:15:29,340
guys from pinky to thumb, how
big is your hand? How high? Can

2102
02:15:29,340 --> 02:15:35,520
you jump? How it was like every
metric, they know. Sure. And,

2103
02:15:35,580 --> 02:15:42,450
and in the end, and the genesis
of that is the slave trade.

2104
02:15:42,660 --> 02:15:46,500
Nobody wants to talk about this.
And this will get you cancelled,

2105
02:15:46,500 --> 02:15:49,650
this will get your council back
in Amy's if you brought this up,

2106
02:15:49,920 --> 02:15:55,050
because of how black people were
bred, like animals in this

2107
02:15:55,050 --> 02:15:59,640
country. So nobody wants to talk
about now. Hold

2108
02:15:59,640 --> 02:16:05,640
on, hold on a second. So okay,
fair, you're saying that this is

2109
02:16:05,670 --> 02:16:11,310
genetics that has that was
initially engineered by during

2110
02:16:11,310 --> 02:16:15,600
the slave trade. And once that's
engineered, it stays, and it

2111
02:16:15,630 --> 02:16:17,100
continues to the bloodline.

2112
02:16:17,849 --> 02:16:20,879
It's in the gene pool. And the
thing about it's like this, we

2113
02:16:20,879 --> 02:16:23,789
got to think about gene, and it
took me a long time and how to

2114
02:16:23,789 --> 02:16:27,089
think of analogy, how to
illustrate because, of course,

2115
02:16:27,089 --> 02:16:30,299
people are going to get into
their emotions, of what are you

2116
02:16:30,299 --> 02:16:34,139
saying, oh, all black people are
genetically No, no, no, it's not

2117
02:16:34,139 --> 02:16:38,009
gonna say genetic pool is like a
lottery. Like you're saying,

2118
02:16:38,009 --> 02:16:43,079
like, think about the lottery
balls, right? Yeah. You're when

2119
02:16:43,079 --> 02:16:45,929
you you only have six or seven
numbers that come out, but it's

2120
02:16:45,929 --> 02:16:51,089
like 60 numbers in there. You
see, I'm saying you might get

2121
02:16:51,119 --> 02:16:57,809
some good set of balls. And it
will say because just out of

2122
02:16:57,809 --> 02:16:59,699
draw it a lot, and it's what
they call people say, Oh, you

2123
02:16:59,699 --> 02:17:01,799
want a genetic lottery here.
People say this all the time, or

2124
02:17:01,799 --> 02:17:04,709
you want a genetic lottery shirt
being tall or you know, saying

2125
02:17:04,709 --> 02:17:08,219
or handsome or whatever.
Attractive, whatever else. The

2126
02:17:08,219 --> 02:17:12,869
thing was, was the creation of
American slave was based that

2127
02:17:12,869 --> 02:17:19,919
the, the lottery balls. And
that's why it comes out more

2128
02:17:19,919 --> 02:17:20,909
often. Okay.

2129
02:17:21,360 --> 02:17:26,490
All right. All right. So if I
were to say, wow, you know,

2130
02:17:26,940 --> 02:17:31,140
these guys, I mean, just look at
him. This is, this is from

2131
02:17:31,230 --> 02:17:35,520
genetics. He got it from the
from his gene pool. And boy, are

2132
02:17:35,520 --> 02:17:39,030
we lucky to have him on the
team. Who would agree with me,

2133
02:17:39,270 --> 02:17:40,140
if I said, you will

2134
02:17:40,140 --> 02:17:43,830
get canceled, you will get
cancelled immediately what I'm

2135
02:17:43,830 --> 02:17:47,100
thinking, but I'm gonna show you
the difference because like in

2136
02:17:47,130 --> 02:17:49,740
football, you have these
football families, you'll see a

2137
02:17:49,740 --> 02:17:52,680
lot especially in linemen
kilometer big guys. And you

2138
02:17:52,680 --> 02:17:55,530
know, all you're saying is dad
play and his uncle. Like the

2139
02:17:56,040 --> 02:17:58,740
auto family. There's no out of
name saying that this might not

2140
02:17:58,740 --> 02:18:01,170
be a route, you know, the auto
shows and it comes from a long

2141
02:18:01,170 --> 02:18:06,450
line of football family. No
problem. But is very careful

2142
02:18:06,450 --> 02:18:09,690
when you get to the black side.
And hey, you ever heard of Jimmy

2143
02:18:09,690 --> 02:18:10,950
to Greek? Let's progress the
show?

2144
02:18:11,760 --> 02:18:14,790
Have I heard of Jimmy the Greek?
I was doing radio in New York

2145
02:18:14,790 --> 02:18:20,880
City when this happened in
80s 8980. Right time Yeah. Oh, I

2146
02:18:20,880 --> 02:18:21,270
remember.

2147
02:18:21,390 --> 02:18:26,310
Even back then he got canceled
for what he said. I want to show

2148
02:18:26,310 --> 02:18:27,390
you the news report.

2149
02:18:28,260 --> 02:18:31,740
Remember this? I was in New York
City. I remember this. This was

2150
02:18:31,740 --> 02:18:33,060
huge news. This

2151
02:18:33,060 --> 02:18:37,380
is why I love doing the show
because I get the inside scoop

2152
02:18:37,380 --> 02:18:41,370
on what but listen to how the
news frames why he got in

2153
02:18:41,370 --> 02:18:44,850
trouble and possibly fired. And
then we're gonna go back and

2154
02:18:44,850 --> 02:18:46,440
listen to what he actually said.

2155
02:18:46,470 --> 02:18:51,210
Reporter from WRC TV, was asking
questions about Martin Luther

2156
02:18:51,210 --> 02:18:54,210
King's birthday, and the
progress blacks have made in

2157
02:18:54,210 --> 02:18:57,540
society. There. CBS Sports
commentator Jimmy the Greek

2158
02:18:57,540 --> 02:19:00,540
Snyder gave his impressions of
blacks and coaching in the

2159
02:19:00,540 --> 02:19:04,170
National Football League. His
answers could raise as much

2160
02:19:04,170 --> 02:19:07,800
controversy as the statements by
former Dodgers executive our

2161
02:19:07,800 --> 02:19:11,490
campaign this last April on ABC
Nightline news program.

2162
02:19:11,849 --> 02:19:14,039
Yeah, pretty sure they're gonna
have to equalize it for the

2163
02:19:14,039 --> 02:19:18,359
blacks. For the Greeks, the Jews
and for everybody, I mean, let's

2164
02:19:18,359 --> 02:19:19,589
make it equal for everybody.

2165
02:19:20,460 --> 02:19:23,250
And isn't equal to the sports.

2166
02:19:24,269 --> 02:19:27,689
Well, they've got everything if
they take over coaching like

2167
02:19:27,689 --> 02:19:30,299
everybody wants him to, there's
not going to be anything left

2168
02:19:30,299 --> 02:19:32,939
for the white people. I mean,
all the players are black. I

2169
02:19:32,939 --> 02:19:35,339
mean, the only thing that the
whites control is the coaching

2170
02:19:35,339 --> 02:19:38,369
jobs. Now I'm not being
derogatory about it, but that's

2171
02:19:38,399 --> 02:19:42,149
all that's left for. So black
talent is beautiful. It's great.

2172
02:19:42,149 --> 02:19:46,229
It's out there. The only thing
left for the whites is a couple

2173
02:19:46,229 --> 02:19:49,499
of coaching jobs, and we need to
get more black conscious. All

2174
02:19:49,499 --> 02:19:51,899
right with me. Okay, well, I'm
sure that they'll take over that

2175
02:19:51,899 --> 02:19:52,709
pretty soon, too.

2176
02:19:54,000 --> 02:19:57,780
WRC was apparently flooded with
complaint calls after the Snyder

2177
02:19:57,780 --> 02:20:00,960
comments were aired, Schneider
issued an apology saying he was

2178
02:20:00,960 --> 02:20:05,430
truly sorry for anything he
said. ABC. CBS spokesperson said

2179
02:20:05,430 --> 02:20:08,370
no decision has been made as to
whether Snyder will work Sundays

2180
02:20:08,370 --> 02:20:11,580
NFL today broadcast Snyder's
spending the night with Gene

2181
02:20:11,610 --> 02:20:13,890
Upshaw, the players union
executive director in

2182
02:20:13,890 --> 02:20:17,940
Washington, and he has received
support calls from Walter Payton

2183
02:20:18,060 --> 02:20:19,530
and Ahmad Rashad.

2184
02:20:20,610 --> 02:20:25,620
Oh man yes it's a mod were shot
and he got some shit for that

2185
02:20:25,620 --> 02:20:26,040
too.

2186
02:20:26,550 --> 02:20:29,910
Of course he did because
disliked when Jerry Jones came

2187
02:20:29,910 --> 02:20:33,270
out and only Steven a smooth
came out caper for Jerry Jones.

2188
02:20:33,600 --> 02:20:37,290
You always have people you can
call a Steven hey, I need a

2189
02:20:37,290 --> 02:20:39,630
solid you say a mod I need a
solid

2190
02:20:40,440 --> 02:20:43,290
go What I remember now I'm just
trying to think to this time

2191
02:20:43,650 --> 02:20:48,690
because this although this was
this I think was the actual

2192
02:20:48,690 --> 02:20:50,850
problem that he said well you
know what's gonna be left for

2193
02:20:50,850 --> 02:20:53,130
the Jews and the white guys you
know, we got into and the

2194
02:20:53,430 --> 02:20:55,320
Italians and what are we going
to have life? We're not going to

2195
02:20:55,320 --> 02:20:59,730
be in the sport. But he got
canceled, I guess or fired or

2196
02:20:59,730 --> 02:21:01,950
whatever, for a different
comment.

2197
02:21:03,060 --> 02:21:06,600
I'm glad I'm glad we land this
outline. This is what podcast

2198
02:21:06,600 --> 02:21:10,320
gold is all about. What do you
remember him being counseled

2199
02:21:10,320 --> 02:21:10,740
for,

2200
02:21:11,310 --> 02:21:16,050
for saying that? Well, obviously
the black athletes are superior

2201
02:21:16,050 --> 02:21:20,850
because of their breeding as
slaves and they were bred to be

2202
02:21:20,850 --> 02:21:24,060
powerful machines. I'm
paraphrasing it's a long time

2203
02:21:24,060 --> 02:21:24,360
ago.

2204
02:21:24,420 --> 02:21:31,110
It's pretty close. But notice
the news clip left that part out

2205
02:21:31,920 --> 02:21:33,930
a vintage news clip edited

2206
02:21:34,680 --> 02:21:36,780
out on YouTube and missed a lot
there.

2207
02:21:37,530 --> 02:21:42,420
Right so now I had to go to
stoner man is the YouTube

2208
02:21:42,420 --> 02:21:46,380
channel and forgive the music.
But he's gonna get into Jimmy

2209
02:21:46,440 --> 02:21:49,470
the Greek being cancelled. Part
One and Part Two. This is the

2210
02:21:49,470 --> 02:21:50,070
first part

2211
02:21:50,160 --> 02:21:52,980
it's donor man presents Jimmy
the Greek the first cancel

2212
02:21:52,980 --> 02:21:56,880
broadcaster caution. comments
may be triggering or hilarious

2213
02:21:56,880 --> 02:21:58,140
depending on your perspective.

2214
02:21:59,100 --> 02:22:02,400
The black is the better athlete
and he's bred to be the better

2215
02:22:02,400 --> 02:22:05,220
athlete because this goes back
all the way to the Civil War.

2216
02:22:05,430 --> 02:22:09,150
When during the slave trading,
the big the owner the slave

2217
02:22:09,150 --> 02:22:13,830
owner would would would would
breed his big black to his big

2218
02:22:13,830 --> 02:22:18,750
woman so that he could have a
big black kids in Washington

2219
02:22:18,750 --> 02:22:19,110
today.

2220
02:22:19,140 --> 02:22:21,840
The local NBC television station
interviewed people about the

2221
02:22:21,840 --> 02:22:24,690
state of race relations on this
Martin Luther King's birthday

2222
02:22:24,690 --> 02:22:24,840
should

2223
02:22:24,840 --> 02:22:27,930
be the drink. Snyder is in hot
water tonight over some remarks

2224
02:22:27,930 --> 02:22:29,790
he made today about flat
athletes.

2225
02:22:30,060 --> 02:22:33,510
Well, they've got everything. If
they take over coaching like

2226
02:22:33,510 --> 02:22:36,120
everybody wants him to. There's
not going to be anything left

2227
02:22:36,120 --> 02:22:38,940
for the white people. The black
is a better athlete to begin

2228
02:22:38,940 --> 02:22:42,480
with. Because he's been bred to
be that way. Because of his

2229
02:22:42,480 --> 02:22:48,450
height guys. I don't want to
live with the white guides.

2230
02:22:48,480 --> 02:22:51,420
And the Fallout was very swift.

2231
02:22:51,630 --> 02:22:54,630
Right? Yeah, that was there was
a high thigh that was that was

2232
02:22:54,630 --> 02:22:57,750
the kind of like the the mean,
that was the thing that stuck

2233
02:22:57,750 --> 02:23:00,840
the high thigh. And what do you
mean, you're saying they're

2234
02:23:00,840 --> 02:23:02,070
genetically different?

2235
02:23:02,970 --> 02:23:10,230
They were genetically
reproduced. And this did this

2236
02:23:10,230 --> 02:23:13,170
that make us misconception
people have about slavery. Like

2237
02:23:13,170 --> 02:23:16,290
that you had slaves and their
little slave cabins with their

2238
02:23:16,290 --> 02:23:19,200
little slave families. It's
like, Alright, honey, I'm going

2239
02:23:19,200 --> 02:23:21,840
out the slaves, you know, and
they go walk out the house and

2240
02:23:21,840 --> 02:23:27,330
I'll see me get home. No, it was
scientific. And I got stopped

2241
02:23:27,330 --> 02:23:31,500
using it work. It was husbandry,
it was like, Oh, you gotta

2242
02:23:31,500 --> 02:23:35,190
thoroughbred horse, bring them
on over here. And I know this

2243
02:23:35,190 --> 02:23:40,470
because I own a thoroughbred
American Bully. And his genetics

2244
02:23:40,470 --> 02:23:41,580
can be translated. You're

2245
02:23:41,580 --> 02:23:45,210
saying the right thing husband?
It exists today. We don't think

2246
02:23:45,210 --> 02:23:51,510
two seconds about the Hindus
about Indians. They husbandry

2247
02:23:51,930 --> 02:23:54,540
it's like that's what that's
what a rant. Oh, that's the goal

2248
02:23:54,540 --> 02:23:58,620
of arranged marriages. Yes,
people together. That way they

2249
02:23:59,160 --> 02:24:06,300
reproduce a better lineage, or a
better project and the athlete

2250
02:24:06,300 --> 02:24:06,720
is a word

2251
02:24:06,720 --> 02:24:11,010
but on its head. Why is it taboo
to marry your your cousin?

2252
02:24:11,520 --> 02:24:14,940
Because you get the opposite? So
we're told correct, you get

2253
02:24:16,080 --> 02:24:18,720
mongrel retarded offspring.

2254
02:24:19,230 --> 02:24:23,220
But you don't want to have this
conversation. I'm glad you made

2255
02:24:23,220 --> 02:24:27,750
that point. Because what is it
South known for West Virginia?

2256
02:24:27,870 --> 02:24:31,080
Oh, you're married to your
cousin you're married to that

2257
02:24:31,110 --> 02:24:32,400
stereotype is okay.

2258
02:24:32,610 --> 02:24:34,050
Yeah, exactly.

2259
02:24:34,440 --> 02:24:37,110
Or the northern thought they
were dealing with when they came

2260
02:24:37,110 --> 02:24:39,840
down, sell all their cousin
efforts or whatever saying like,

2261
02:24:41,670 --> 02:24:43,680
where do we get these? Where
would you get these stereotypes

2262
02:24:43,680 --> 02:24:44,130
from?

2263
02:24:45,690 --> 02:24:46,920
Where do we get them from?

2264
02:24:47,430 --> 02:24:51,630
Yeah, I mean, who prints West
Virginians as people to sleep

2265
02:24:51,630 --> 02:24:52,500
with their cousins.

2266
02:24:54,990 --> 02:24:55,980
douchebags.

2267
02:24:56,490 --> 02:24:59,970
And it's okay, it's the media.
It's movies these days.

2268
02:25:00,000 --> 02:25:03,060
Yeah, you're right. You're
right. Don't marry a ginger.

2269
02:25:03,330 --> 02:25:03,990
It's no good.

2270
02:25:04,440 --> 02:25:07,320
Oh, that's the I mean, yeah,
exactly. I mean, they get I

2271
02:25:07,320 --> 02:25:09,450
mean, like, they're the white
people that are black people,

2272
02:25:09,450 --> 02:25:12,570
the white people, you know, I
mean, like, I've never

2273
02:25:12,570 --> 02:25:16,290
understood what I like how cruel
gingers was treated mom. Like,

2274
02:25:17,250 --> 02:25:19,710
it's very bad. It's hard to
blame

2275
02:25:19,710 --> 02:25:22,980
for everything to like, Oh,
you're saying My car got a flat

2276
02:25:22,980 --> 02:25:25,470
tire? You're saying let's be a
ginger. You know, that kind of

2277
02:25:25,470 --> 02:25:28,980
thing? No serious. I didn't I
didn't know. Like I said,

2278
02:25:28,980 --> 02:25:32,310
that's, that was outside my
purview. Without wondering you

2279
02:25:32,310 --> 02:25:35,250
start hearing like the
stereotype is like, wow, like,

2280
02:25:35,250 --> 02:25:37,200
you know, wow, like, wow,

2281
02:25:37,800 --> 02:25:41,250
that's a very good point. Oh,
so? Well, first of all, I'm glad

2282
02:25:41,250 --> 02:25:44,040
that we can just sit here and
talk about because I remember.

2283
02:25:44,610 --> 02:25:47,040
Here's how I remember it going
down because it was one I was

2284
02:25:47,040 --> 02:25:53,430
doing the morning show. With I
think Scott Shannon, Ross

2285
02:25:53,430 --> 02:25:57,810
Britton, these were all huge. Z
100 more and all white guys.

2286
02:25:59,130 --> 02:26:02,310
Except we had a we had to
Professor Jonathan B. Bell who

2287
02:26:02,310 --> 02:26:08,760
did sports black guy, of course.
And but I remember that. I wish

2288
02:26:08,760 --> 02:26:11,160
I remembered exactly, but it was
kind of Oh, Jimmy, the Greek

2289
02:26:11,160 --> 02:26:15,240
Whoa, whoa, whoa. Cabling or
whatever. You know, they

2290
02:26:15,240 --> 02:26:18,360
wouldn't actually say, but you
could tell that I was like,

2291
02:26:18,390 --> 02:26:21,690
EMTs. Right. But we're not gonna
say he's right.

2292
02:26:23,520 --> 02:26:26,310
It's one of the things that we
see monitoring that they talk

2293
02:26:26,310 --> 02:26:28,740
about what he said without
actually saying what he said,

2294
02:26:28,890 --> 02:26:32,130
right? We started with the Bill
Cosby thing. You know, they

2295
02:26:32,130 --> 02:26:36,150
never use what he actually what
his confession was. They just

2296
02:26:36,150 --> 02:26:39,060
talked about his confession,
right? Well, he confessed. Yeah.

2297
02:26:39,090 --> 02:26:41,850
It's like what he said, Oh, we
don't worry about he confessed.

2298
02:26:41,850 --> 02:26:44,460
It's like, but what do you say?
You know, like I said, this is

2299
02:26:44,460 --> 02:26:46,950
no cable for Bill Cosby, because
he got his own issues. But what

2300
02:26:46,950 --> 02:26:47,880
I'm just saying is,

2301
02:26:47,909 --> 02:26:51,689
so they're coming to here comes
the problem. Does the media do

2302
02:26:51,689 --> 02:26:55,649
that? Because they don't want to
be complicit in some suspected

2303
02:26:55,649 --> 02:26:59,669
racism? Or do they do that,
because they just want to keep

2304
02:26:59,669 --> 02:27:01,679
it quiet, keep everything going
the way it is.

2305
02:27:02,700 --> 02:27:07,050
They don't want to on earth.
Like, and this is why I pulled

2306
02:27:07,050 --> 02:27:10,740
out in the Megyn Kelly thing.
You had the narrative that she

2307
02:27:10,740 --> 02:27:15,150
had. And this is no shot in the
making, of what Bill's misfields

2308
02:27:15,150 --> 02:27:18,780
went through. But they you had
well, actually what Miss bills

2309
02:27:18,780 --> 02:27:22,440
went through, he was sure the
audio of ropes in words, and no,

2310
02:27:22,440 --> 02:27:24,480
they were shooting to me and
trying to light me on fire and

2311
02:27:24,480 --> 02:27:27,450
throwing acid on me. And the
same thing here. It's like the

2312
02:27:27,450 --> 02:27:31,980
idea of slavery, versus what was
really going on in slavery.

2313
02:27:31,980 --> 02:27:36,150
And the converse is true in
recent history with juicy small

2314
02:27:36,150 --> 02:27:43,800
a, there was Maga country put a
noose around you. And of course,

2315
02:27:43,800 --> 02:27:46,980
that was all just trauma
reporting for a

2316
02:27:46,980 --> 02:27:50,280
fact. Right? Or the one we we
always like talk about as good

2317
02:27:50,280 --> 02:27:53,190
people on both sides. That kind
of thing is like, we're going to

2318
02:27:53,190 --> 02:27:56,310
take this and shape it. But not
to belabor a point, but I'm just

2319
02:27:56,310 --> 02:28:00,150
showing you, nobody really wants
to have that conversation of

2320
02:28:00,150 --> 02:28:04,290
what, what x went into slavery.
And that was more moderate

2321
02:28:04,290 --> 02:28:07,080
slavery, because when they had a
steady flow, you'll say are

2322
02:28:07,080 --> 02:28:10,530
slaves coming into the country,
it wasn't beneficial. But the

2323
02:28:10,530 --> 02:28:15,480
late stages of slavery was a lot
of slave farms, they will

2324
02:28:15,480 --> 02:28:21,720
farming human beings. Now with
that, if I've never seen a

2325
02:28:21,720 --> 02:28:26,340
business person want to make a
inferior product, you're saying

2326
02:28:26,340 --> 02:28:29,220
just to be cold and callous
about it for a minute, you know,

2327
02:28:29,220 --> 02:28:33,930
you take your best and breed to
your best and make better. So

2328
02:28:33,960 --> 02:28:42,570
this I think this is why we have
the the you know, the huge

2329
02:28:42,660 --> 02:28:50,460
quantity of these genes being
manifest. Now, you're saying

2330
02:28:50,460 --> 02:28:54,510
like, okay, it's heavy in their
gene pool, they had the things

2331
02:28:54,510 --> 02:28:58,230
that were desired. It was a it
was a feature, you know, we need

2332
02:28:58,230 --> 02:29:02,460
to we need, we need him to lift
and carry and picking haul. And

2333
02:29:03,120 --> 02:29:06,450
so we need to look for this type
of this this phenom phenotype.

2334
02:29:06,990 --> 02:29:10,800
And we need to let that
phenotype spread. See to all the

2335
02:29:10,800 --> 02:29:14,880
women. Sure this is American
history, like people can get

2336
02:29:14,880 --> 02:29:18,030
frustrated or wherever but this
is what that's not talking about

2337
02:29:18,030 --> 02:29:18,150
it.

2338
02:29:18,180 --> 02:29:22,350
No, it's so crazy because we've
gone so far to the to the other

2339
02:29:22,350 --> 02:29:26,070
side that now we are at because
you said business people that

2340
02:29:26,070 --> 02:29:32,520
triggered me. Business people
businesses are making very bad

2341
02:29:32,520 --> 02:29:36,660
business decisions based upon
cause I have people who sit in

2342
02:29:36,660 --> 02:29:40,650
boardrooms, I have people who
sit in the largest medical

2343
02:29:40,860 --> 02:29:45,660
organizations. And it'd be like,
Okay, we need a company who

2344
02:29:45,690 --> 02:29:49,320
wouldn't outsource this
particular thing to? Here's our

2345
02:29:49,320 --> 02:29:54,180
choices. That one Yeah, they
really are pretty white heavy.

2346
02:29:54,180 --> 02:29:58,020
So they're not they just can't
they we can't choose them. So

2347
02:29:58,020 --> 02:30:00,630
the opposite is now happening
where the DIS systems are being

2348
02:30:00,630 --> 02:30:03,540
made that are counterintuitive
to the success of the business

2349
02:30:04,260 --> 02:30:05,340
based on race

2350
02:30:07,800 --> 02:30:12,720
it with theme that way, but
whatever their real goal here is

2351
02:30:12,720 --> 02:30:15,810
right. It's like that. What is
their real goal? I mean, it

2352
02:30:15,810 --> 02:30:16,500
seems no,

2353
02:30:16,529 --> 02:30:23,099
no, no. What's happening today
in boardrooms, the real goal is

2354
02:30:23,519 --> 02:30:30,539
to comply with ESG. That's the
goal. Right? It's not no

2355
02:30:31,109 --> 02:30:36,359
absolute, but you either do it
this way, or you're guaranteed

2356
02:30:36,359 --> 02:30:41,309
to not make money. So you can do
a little worse, or maybe sick.

2357
02:30:41,309 --> 02:30:46,079
40% Worse, but that's better
than 90% worse. That's that's

2358
02:30:46,079 --> 02:30:48,359
the trauma that's happening now
in the boardrooms,

2359
02:30:48,660 --> 02:30:52,650
because the steady drumbeat is
to depopulation. That's the

2360
02:30:52,650 --> 02:30:54,360
steady, that's the steady
course.

2361
02:30:54,750 --> 02:30:58,020
They've always wanted to kill us
more. We know that not just you,

2362
02:30:58,020 --> 02:30:58,800
everybody.

2363
02:30:59,370 --> 02:31:03,480
Right? It will always say they
start with not in, they start

2364
02:31:03,480 --> 02:31:07,860
with us. That that's the thing.
It's like, ringing the bell

2365
02:31:07,860 --> 02:31:11,610
like, hey, yeah, I know how this
go. And this is, this is why

2366
02:31:11,610 --> 02:31:13,380
people at all, that's why we
went back to what you were

2367
02:31:13,380 --> 02:31:16,680
saying before, like, you see it
one way, it's like, I can't see

2368
02:31:16,710 --> 02:31:20,880
any other way. I mean, because
it's my paradigm you know, now

2369
02:31:20,880 --> 02:31:24,750
does I'll do I let that make me
be ineffective? Do I let that

2370
02:31:24,750 --> 02:31:28,230
make me be in a state of being
traumatized? And no, no, it's

2371
02:31:28,230 --> 02:31:31,890
just these are this is reality.
You know, just like how they

2372
02:31:31,890 --> 02:31:35,160
delete it from what he actually
said, because they don't want to

2373
02:31:35,160 --> 02:31:38,040
talk about what went on in this
country just like they tried to

2374
02:31:38,040 --> 02:31:41,640
shut up about our holocaust.
He's like, this is our

2375
02:31:41,640 --> 02:31:45,150
holocaust. Like, shut up. Yay.
You say you can't say that. Why

2376
02:31:45,150 --> 02:31:47,010
can I say that? Everybody else
is talking about their

2377
02:31:47,010 --> 02:31:48,840
suffering. Because you can't
shut up.

2378
02:31:49,410 --> 02:31:52,770
Well, you can Yeah, you can say
it just the mainstream says no,

2379
02:31:52,800 --> 02:31:55,110
we're not gonna we're not gonna
broadcast that.

2380
02:31:56,370 --> 02:32:01,440
It I mean, they debate demand. I
mean, gone before he went on

2381
02:32:01,470 --> 02:32:04,650
saying info walked out prior to
that when he was like, you know,

2382
02:32:04,650 --> 02:32:07,110
Planned Parenthood is our
holocaust. You can't say that.

2383
02:32:08,640 --> 02:32:11,400
No, you how can you how can you
not tell what my suffer? I

2384
02:32:11,400 --> 02:32:14,070
cannot tell my story. You know,
because they don't want down

2385
02:32:14,070 --> 02:32:14,910
Well, I mean,

2386
02:32:14,940 --> 02:32:17,670
okay, so the bottom line is,
yes, you can say it, but you can

2387
02:32:17,670 --> 02:32:20,430
say it only in certain places
like on a podcast,

2388
02:32:20,880 --> 02:32:23,460
right. That's why it is so
powerful. Yes.

2389
02:32:23,460 --> 02:32:26,880
But that's why podcasting is
more exciting, more interesting

2390
02:32:26,880 --> 02:32:29,280
than mainstream. Because truth
comes out.

2391
02:32:29,910 --> 02:32:33,330
I would have been stopped. The
phone, Boulay phone would have

2392
02:32:33,330 --> 02:32:39,600
been ringing. You bet. You from
both sides, like what the hell

2393
02:32:39,600 --> 02:32:42,690
is going on over there? You say
like, shut it down, or pull the

2394
02:32:42,690 --> 02:32:47,790
power to kick us off the grid?
Because they don't want us to

2395
02:32:47,790 --> 02:32:51,570
talk about this. But you only
can get to a note the real fear

2396
02:32:51,570 --> 02:32:58,500
is they think the counter to
white supremacy is black

2397
02:32:58,500 --> 02:33:02,700
supremacy. Oh, it's really when
the counter is just this it

2398
02:33:02,700 --> 02:33:06,180
wasn't we don't want to be polar
go to the other pole. No, with

2399
02:33:06,180 --> 02:33:08,580
it is just like call it fair.
And it's why sports is so

2400
02:33:08,580 --> 02:33:11,460
important. Because that's the
one place on the field. You can

2401
02:33:11,460 --> 02:33:12,840
call it fair. Allegedly.

2402
02:33:14,040 --> 02:33:16,500
Yeah, if you got to there's a
lot of things you take into

2403
02:33:16,500 --> 02:33:20,010
consideration refs people
throwing games, etc. But yeah,

2404
02:33:20,040 --> 02:33:23,790
in general, on the field is
where the truth comes out.

2405
02:33:24,570 --> 02:33:27,420
Cuz we can see it everybody can
see like, Oh, that's a bad call.

2406
02:33:28,530 --> 02:33:31,470
Right? Like, hey, you're saying
that he was out or he was in

2407
02:33:31,500 --> 02:33:34,590
like, it's very clear. You're
saying here the line was the

2408
02:33:34,590 --> 02:33:37,980
outdoorsy is the definitive
answer to it, where everything

2409
02:33:38,010 --> 02:33:42,660
else is, is objective right?
Now, so subjective. You're

2410
02:33:42,660 --> 02:33:46,620
saying sports is objective. So
let's go ahead and get listen to

2411
02:33:46,620 --> 02:33:50,610
Jimmy the Greek being counseled
in the 80s. For his letting out

2412
02:33:50,610 --> 02:33:51,240
of the truth

2413
02:33:51,540 --> 02:33:54,120
in the Fallout was very swift.

2414
02:33:54,150 --> 02:33:57,090
I don't think the network was
was any choice.

2415
02:33:58,590 --> 02:34:01,320
I don't I don't think the
network's fired him. I think he

2416
02:34:01,320 --> 02:34:09,030
fired so I was trying. I was
telling them how superior the

2417
02:34:09,030 --> 02:34:13,020
black athlete is over the white
one, just for the reasons

2418
02:34:13,050 --> 02:34:14,430
that said he is

2419
02:34:16,980 --> 02:34:18,540
the Black tries harder.

2420
02:34:18,960 --> 02:34:24,240
He has made a big mistake. But
then all of us do. And we have

2421
02:34:24,240 --> 02:34:29,940
to at some point time and people
show a contrite heart. To

2422
02:34:30,990 --> 02:34:33,240
forgive to redeem and to move on

2423
02:34:33,420 --> 02:34:37,380
CBS on Friday afternoon here in
Washington, our former colleague

2424
02:34:37,380 --> 02:34:40,170
Jimmy the Greg made some
regrettable and offensive

2425
02:34:40,170 --> 02:34:43,680
remarks for which he has
apologized. Yesterday CBS issued

2426
02:34:43,680 --> 02:34:47,430
a statement disassociated itself
from those remarks. It goes

2427
02:34:47,430 --> 02:34:51,000
without saying that his comments
do not reflect in any way the

2428
02:34:51,000 --> 02:34:54,480
thinking or attitudes of the
rest of us here at CBS Sports.

2429
02:34:54,840 --> 02:34:58,080
While we deplore the incident
this weekend. We are saddened

2430
02:34:58,110 --> 02:35:01,290
that I 12 Your association with
me had to end this way.

2431
02:35:01,590 --> 02:35:04,800
It's such a great SIOP. You
know, it's like everyone sees

2432
02:35:04,800 --> 02:35:07,410
it, everyone sees the balance.
Everyone sees who performs

2433
02:35:07,410 --> 02:35:10,560
better. But not it's not, of
course, our opinion, hertz

2434
02:35:10,560 --> 02:35:11,490
should be ash.

2435
02:35:13,139 --> 02:35:16,589
Because she can't say the quiet
part out loud. Never. That's

2436
02:35:16,589 --> 02:35:18,989
what he said, That's where he
stepped on, he stepped on the

2437
02:35:18,989 --> 02:35:23,759
third rail and NAS, what you
just can't say that. And there's

2438
02:35:23,759 --> 02:35:26,999
one more part to husbandry
before we move on, that people

2439
02:35:26,999 --> 02:35:32,429
don't want to factor in. But
like I look at things through

2440
02:35:32,429 --> 02:35:39,209
Santo, illogical lens. And the
fact that you had this plan, he

2441
02:35:39,209 --> 02:35:42,989
was saying planned reproduction
going on for a better product.

2442
02:35:43,379 --> 02:35:47,969
And then you had white genetics
coming over into that as well

2443
02:35:47,969 --> 02:35:52,589
through rape or interracial
relations, or however you want

2444
02:35:52,589 --> 02:35:55,859
to look at it. There's a thing
called hybrid vigor, which I'm

2445
02:35:55,859 --> 02:35:59,489
gonna do a whole show on this,
what's it called? hybrid vigor.

2446
02:35:59,489 --> 02:36:02,639
So what happens is, when you
take a white person and a black

2447
02:36:02,639 --> 02:36:11,189
person in may have a baby, the
offspring can have super

2448
02:36:11,189 --> 02:36:17,309
genetics, because it's a new
thing. If you so when you create

2449
02:36:17,309 --> 02:36:21,869
cross two things, in the will to
survive, it has a higher chance

2450
02:36:21,869 --> 02:36:26,279
of having an in enhance
genetics, which I think a lot of

2451
02:36:26,279 --> 02:36:29,519
the Coverity plan is about, it's
like let's make use and mix them

2452
02:36:29,519 --> 02:36:31,889
up. This is why you're seeing
this commercial mixed them up,

2453
02:36:31,889 --> 02:36:35,849
we're going to the super race,
super race, super race. And

2454
02:36:35,849 --> 02:36:39,419
that's what they when you had
this white genetic come over to

2455
02:36:39,419 --> 02:36:45,839
this already planned, you know,
plan genetics for black people

2456
02:36:45,929 --> 02:36:49,259
that add it to it even more.
Now, obviously, this is all

2457
02:36:49,259 --> 02:36:52,949
science. This is why Meghan
Maher who quote unquote, is so

2458
02:36:52,949 --> 02:37:00,839
beautiful, or whatever you're
saying is hybrid vigor. As

2459
02:37:00,839 --> 02:37:06,719
Rebecca said, and we got to be
clear, is it looks over

2460
02:37:06,719 --> 02:37:09,479
representative because you say
85% mean, we're saying, Oh, the

2461
02:37:09,479 --> 02:37:13,649
NFL is black, blah, blah, blah.
But I mean, what is it like 65

2462
02:37:13,649 --> 02:37:17,219
players on a team 32 teams,
you're saying do that math,

2463
02:37:17,429 --> 02:37:20,729
that's not a lot of people. And
they're looking for these kids

2464
02:37:20,729 --> 02:37:24,479
at every corner, every Pop
Warner field, ever. I mean,

2465
02:37:24,479 --> 02:37:27,719
they're scouring the earth for
the next LeBron James Sure. For

2466
02:37:27,719 --> 02:37:30,989
the net. This is, so it's like,
okay, when you find one, they're

2467
02:37:30,989 --> 02:37:34,799
an anomaly within their race.
You're saying within their race

2468
02:37:34,799 --> 02:37:40,169
itself? You know, I mean, it's
not like as 1000 LeBron James

2469
02:37:40,169 --> 02:37:42,779
out here to tell you how small
the number is. 1000 Michael

2470
02:37:42,779 --> 02:37:46,349
Jordan's there's only one. But
if the likelihood of that being

2471
02:37:46,349 --> 02:37:49,949
manifested through reproduction
is higher, because of what the

2472
02:37:49,949 --> 02:37:51,749
shenanigans that went on during
slavery?

2473
02:37:52,739 --> 02:37:55,949
Or still go on for all we know,
of course,

2474
02:37:55,950 --> 02:38:00,060
because guess what? You took me
here, so they applaud yourself.

2475
02:38:00,270 --> 02:38:03,300
What do you think Planned
Parenthood is a woman's not

2476
02:38:03,300 --> 02:38:07,410
gonna keep a baby have a buster
are lame. And you're saying

2477
02:38:07,440 --> 02:38:11,370
like, they're gonna keep the
tall attractive guys baby. is

2478
02:38:11,370 --> 02:38:14,610
still going? Yeah, it's still
going on? Yeah,

2479
02:38:14,640 --> 02:38:16,410
yeah.

2480
02:38:17,040 --> 02:38:18,360
Yeah, it is.

2481
02:38:19,440 --> 02:38:20,850
As far less fucked up.

2482
02:38:22,470 --> 02:38:25,620
No, it goes across. I mean,
that's just that got to go to

2483
02:38:25,620 --> 02:38:29,220
show it goes across all all
colors there. Because you know,

2484
02:38:29,220 --> 02:38:31,860
saying, Oh, he's a loser. Or
he's, oh, that was accident.

2485
02:38:33,150 --> 02:38:39,960
Is that not the natural order of
the human spirit is to seek the

2486
02:38:39,960 --> 02:38:45,990
appropriate mate, seek it based
upon? I mean, women

2487
02:38:45,990 --> 02:38:50,550
traditionally make themselves
look more attractive men. And

2488
02:38:50,550 --> 02:38:54,660
this changes throughout time.
You know, it's, if you want to

2489
02:38:54,660 --> 02:38:57,360
John Henry, like the massive
kind of guy who's going to

2490
02:38:57,360 --> 02:39:00,210
protect you. And then, you know,
in a different era, oh, we want

2491
02:39:00,210 --> 02:39:03,960
kind of the geeky guy, and then
a new era. You want the guy with

2492
02:39:03,960 --> 02:39:07,410
the dad bod? You know, all these
different different things that

2493
02:39:07,410 --> 02:39:13,620
are that morph and change maybe
through popular culture,

2494
02:39:13,620 --> 02:39:18,750
probably. Yeah, but even let's
look at women. What are

2495
02:39:18,840 --> 02:39:23,430
certainly what are black men
highly attractive to sit girls?

2496
02:39:24,060 --> 02:39:28,620
Am I correct? Allegedly,
allegedly, supposedly,

2497
02:39:29,010 --> 02:39:31,260
I mean, black because that's the
narrative. That's why they take

2498
02:39:31,260 --> 02:39:35,130
a qMk and put her on a pedestal
and say, Oh, this is beauty.

2499
02:39:35,160 --> 02:39:38,910
Yeah. It was saying that this is
the media playing with that

2500
02:39:38,910 --> 02:39:42,570
narrative. You know, even though
Kim K's appearance, it's not her

2501
02:39:42,570 --> 02:39:46,800
genetic. This is the sick part.
You want me it's like those are

2502
02:39:46,800 --> 02:39:49,770
her genetics. Those are this
this manufactured

2503
02:39:49,800 --> 02:39:58,080
so in in a sick way. The media
is doing husbandry. Yes. So they

2504
02:39:58,080 --> 02:40:00,840
are in fact a bunch of racist
kids. Dix,

2505
02:40:01,500 --> 02:40:05,430
scientific white supremacist
they are because it's all about

2506
02:40:05,460 --> 02:40:10,260
creating a better race, a
smarter race, a more fit race.

2507
02:40:11,370 --> 02:40:17,220
And when you introduce just
willy nilly sake, you gotta

2508
02:40:17,220 --> 02:40:19,320
have, you're saying you gotta
have a counter to that you say

2509
02:40:19,320 --> 02:40:21,300
you can't have all these people
having all these babies they're

2510
02:40:21,300 --> 02:40:22,290
making, I'm thinking

2511
02:40:23,010 --> 02:40:28,710
about Obama as like, well, he's
not exactly the right race, but

2512
02:40:28,710 --> 02:40:32,190
he's got ticks all the boxes, so
we'll just call him black, you

2513
02:40:32,190 --> 02:40:32,640
go,

2514
02:40:32,970 --> 02:40:33,630
correct.

2515
02:40:36,240 --> 02:40:37,290
That's a good way to look at it.

2516
02:40:37,980 --> 02:40:41,310
Right. And I'm gonna say, I got
a whole nother show. And we

2517
02:40:41,310 --> 02:40:46,800
built some of that. But I had to
explain that wire so taboo to

2518
02:40:46,800 --> 02:40:50,010
talk about it. You're saying,
because this is some heavy stuff

2519
02:40:50,040 --> 02:40:53,550
in there. And you're saying,
when the fact that we do have

2520
02:40:53,550 --> 02:40:58,230
you ever had a conversation in
which such a light, you know,

2521
02:40:58,740 --> 02:41:02,310
bounce to it, you know, is a
great thing, because you can't

2522
02:41:02,310 --> 02:41:04,920
get the truth. Like you said,
All humor, all jokes have some

2523
02:41:04,920 --> 02:41:07,710
truth in it, of course, and this
is what we're dealing with right

2524
02:41:07,710 --> 02:41:12,840
here. So moving forward,
Farrakhan he was at Michigan

2525
02:41:12,840 --> 02:41:17,610
State, I think back in the late
90s. And they gave the student

2526
02:41:17,610 --> 02:41:20,430
grabbed like a black student
body or African Studies group

2527
02:41:20,460 --> 02:41:22,980
that wanted to bring them there.
And they said, No, you can't

2528
02:41:22,980 --> 02:41:24,870
bring them here. You have to pay
from pay them out of your own

2529
02:41:24,870 --> 02:41:27,390
pocket, even though the
university would pay for other

2530
02:41:27,390 --> 02:41:32,670
question, we'll guess. So he
addresses that and then comes up

2531
02:41:32,670 --> 02:41:36,300
with a possible solution to the
bet black athletes at Michigan

2532
02:41:36,300 --> 02:41:36,690
State.

2533
02:41:37,140 --> 02:41:42,660
Michigan State is a great
university, one of the finest in

2534
02:41:42,660 --> 02:41:53,760
this nation. But each year, the
black football players, the

2535
02:41:53,760 --> 02:42:00,780
black basketball players, the
black athletes contribute so

2536
02:42:00,780 --> 02:42:11,700
much to the coffers of this
university. One football game in

2537
02:42:11,700 --> 02:42:19,080
one football game, black talent
gives to this university

2538
02:42:20,370 --> 02:42:27,150
millions yet a black person that
means something to black

2539
02:42:27,150 --> 02:42:33,450
students. Whether I mean
anything to white folk at all is

2540
02:42:33,480 --> 02:42:40,500
irrelevant. But if I mean
something to my own people, the

2541
02:42:40,500 --> 02:42:44,430
least you could do out of
respect for what black people

2542
02:42:44,430 --> 02:42:49,170
give to this institution is to
fact these two decent what they

2543
02:42:49,170 --> 02:42:58,830
want this is a shame. Maybe we
ought to tell all blacks do

2544
02:42:58,890 --> 02:43:01,170
this. Get the hell out of white
university.

2545
02:43:06,240 --> 02:43:08,430
Oh, no, no, we can't have that.

2546
02:43:09,360 --> 02:43:13,620
That's a bought multibillion
dollar move potential

2547
02:43:13,890 --> 02:43:17,670
move. That's a baller move to do
that. Yeah,

2548
02:43:17,700 --> 02:43:22,920
they they had it all laid out
with collegiate sports. You

2549
02:43:22,920 --> 02:43:27,060
don't play the players? Right?
You can work them for sunup to

2550
02:43:27,060 --> 02:43:31,380
sundown. You know, we don't pay
them. Most of them are not going

2551
02:43:31,380 --> 02:43:33,660
to go on to the professional
leagues, but then they can

2552
02:43:33,660 --> 02:43:37,620
monetize what you're saying
they're actually playing of

2553
02:43:37,620 --> 02:43:42,990
games. One one being the SEC is
one of the biggest benefactors

2554
02:43:43,020 --> 02:43:49,320
of this system. The SEC SEC the
south south eastern South

2555
02:43:49,350 --> 02:43:49,710
Eastern

2556
02:43:50,400 --> 02:43:53,850
to me. SEC is Securities
Exchange Commission. I'm sorry,

2557
02:43:53,880 --> 02:43:54,210
it could

2558
02:43:54,210 --> 02:44:00,450
it couldn't be much money isn't
making. But yeah, Alabama,

2559
02:44:00,450 --> 02:44:05,100
Arkansas Allbritton. All the
Tennessee all these schools in

2560
02:44:05,100 --> 02:44:10,200
the south are right ground since
grant on ground zero for all

2561
02:44:10,200 --> 02:44:14,820
this black genetics. This is put
it like that which makes an

2562
02:44:14,820 --> 02:44:17,850
error because that that's where
the genetics were created.

2563
02:44:18,300 --> 02:44:21,990
Exactly. And they're monetizing
it and they're not paying

2564
02:44:22,020 --> 02:44:25,740
anything for it. But enters go.
Well, I

2565
02:44:25,740 --> 02:44:30,210
was gonna say so in if you're
really into football. Do you

2566
02:44:30,210 --> 02:44:36,180
look at where someone comes
from? In that way? Like, we're

2567
02:44:36,180 --> 02:44:41,130
looking at some new recruits and
do the do the coaches only do

2568
02:44:41,130 --> 02:44:44,130
when did the scouts have the
only look at the performance? So

2569
02:44:44,130 --> 02:44:47,130
they say well, you know, we got
a good spot over here. We've had

2570
02:44:47,130 --> 02:44:50,130
some good genetic luck over here
is that play into it?

2571
02:44:50,610 --> 02:44:54,930
Well, they look at this talent.
But these there's these hubs of

2572
02:44:54,930 --> 02:44:58,350
talent. These schools that are
not like for instance, oneness

2573
02:44:58,350 --> 02:45:01,680
in North Charlotte, North
Carolina call end Pinellas all

2574
02:45:01,680 --> 02:45:04,200
the best players across
Charlotte want to go to

2575
02:45:04,200 --> 02:45:07,410
independence. So you get like
it's a million plus people in

2576
02:45:07,410 --> 02:45:12,240
Charlotte, you're seeing a large
black population. So you only

2577
02:45:12,240 --> 02:45:16,320
have to go to these hubs. But
now with the advent of YouTube

2578
02:45:16,320 --> 02:45:18,600
and everybody having a camera,
you got film just telling

2579
02:45:18,750 --> 02:45:24,210
everybody what they know. Like I
said, Florida, Alabama,

2580
02:45:24,210 --> 02:45:28,530
Mississippi, Louisiana and go
over to Texas, you're saying all

2581
02:45:28,530 --> 02:45:33,780
these are hotbed with a call for
blue chips. And even straight on

2582
02:45:33,780 --> 02:45:40,020
five star four star three star
athletes. Cool. And they start

2583
02:45:40,050 --> 02:45:45,360
at 789 10 years old. This is why
Nike had these camps. And

2584
02:45:45,360 --> 02:45:48,720
they're recording their metrics
all he runs a 420. He can jump

2585
02:45:48,720 --> 02:45:51,480
this high. Oh, we got to keep an
eye on this kid over here.

2586
02:45:51,570 --> 02:45:56,430
You're saying this is why at
LeBron James, at an at an eighth

2587
02:45:56,430 --> 02:45:59,160
ninth grade, Nike knew who
LeBron was because they had the

2588
02:45:59,160 --> 02:46:02,730
Nike camp. Right? They knew Oh,
he's on the upper call. We got

2589
02:46:02,730 --> 02:46:05,790
to put him on. Oh, yeah. Oh,
yeah. Oh, yeah. And they

2590
02:46:05,820 --> 02:46:10,560
institute rules like the one and
done they say, Oh, we lost

2591
02:46:10,560 --> 02:46:14,490
Lebron James. He skipped over
college. No, no more. We got to

2592
02:46:14,490 --> 02:46:18,570
go to school for one year.
Right? Why cost? We said so. But

2593
02:46:18,570 --> 02:46:22,680
why does a top programmer have
to go to college for one year

2594
02:46:22,680 --> 02:46:25,470
before they go to work at
Facebook, IBM now most Google

2595
02:46:25,470 --> 02:46:29,100
most of them didn't even go to
college. But college football

2596
02:46:29,100 --> 02:46:32,010
you you gotta go school two
years lost college basketball,

2597
02:46:32,010 --> 02:46:33,480
you got to go once, right? Well,

2598
02:46:33,480 --> 02:46:37,410
they a they want they invest the
initial money, be they're

2599
02:46:37,410 --> 02:46:40,890
probably getting money from
Nike. See, they want to make

2600
02:46:40,890 --> 02:46:42,030
sure they get the money back

2601
02:46:42,780 --> 02:46:46,020
where they want to tie these
athletes to these universities.

2602
02:46:46,890 --> 02:46:49,260
Because whatever they invested
in them, they're gonna get a

2603
02:46:49,290 --> 02:46:53,010
look at Zion Williamson 100,
you're saying he would have went

2604
02:46:53,010 --> 02:46:55,800
straight to the NBA. But he
said, No, you got to go to do

2605
02:46:55,800 --> 02:47:00,990
and this is the this is the
conflict I have with it. Because

2606
02:47:00,990 --> 02:47:04,140
on one hand, you're seeing these
young man get the opportunity to

2607
02:47:04,140 --> 02:47:07,860
go to these prestigious
universities get education, just

2608
02:47:07,860 --> 02:47:10,920
go if their athletics don't pan
out for him, you're saying they

2609
02:47:10,920 --> 02:47:15,090
could be something, you know,
meaningful in life. But on the

2610
02:47:15,150 --> 02:47:19,740
other hand, that legacy is still
there. The way they met. That's

2611
02:47:19,740 --> 02:47:22,710
what gave Kaepernick the opening
say, oh, yeah, they're their

2612
02:47:22,710 --> 02:47:29,040
modern day plantation owners.
Imagery is there. Yeah. But

2613
02:47:29,040 --> 02:47:31,470
here's the problem. You have
somebody like Deion Sanders,

2614
02:47:31,470 --> 02:47:35,550
I'll tell you what, we got no
problem. Here's the problem. Dr.

2615
02:47:35,550 --> 02:47:40,020
Sanders came in. And he said,
I'm gonna go to HBCU,

2616
02:47:40,020 --> 02:47:43,380
Historically Black College or
University, and I'm going to

2617
02:47:43,380 --> 02:47:50,520
bring that top level talent over
to the HBCU with me. Problem. So

2618
02:47:51,210 --> 02:47:51,840
let's go ahead and

2619
02:47:53,130 --> 02:47:54,300
get started.

2620
02:47:54,690 --> 02:47:57,930
I don't know. I don't know why.
But I remember for whatever

2621
02:47:57,930 --> 02:48:03,840
reason, in New York, there was
the D on why was that that just

2622
02:48:03,840 --> 02:48:06,570
popped in my head. There was
something he would do and won't

2623
02:48:06,570 --> 02:48:13,020
go D on. Do you remember this?
Ah, okay, maybe maybe if we get

2624
02:48:13,020 --> 02:48:14,160
some clips I'll remember.

2625
02:48:14,550 --> 02:48:19,170
Okay, so now this is when the
first started in got hired by

2626
02:48:19,200 --> 02:48:23,730
HBCU Jackson State University 31
Gotta go

2627
02:48:23,730 --> 02:48:27,060
to the man who have done it all
on the field and is now make it

2628
02:48:27,060 --> 02:48:29,430
an historic move to the
sidelines to take on a

2629
02:48:29,430 --> 02:48:33,030
meaningful new challenge. NFL
Hall of Famer Deion Sanders, has

2630
02:48:33,030 --> 02:48:36,720
been named the head coach of
Jackson State University tigers,

2631
02:48:36,900 --> 02:48:38,940
and we're going to talk to him
in live in just a moment all

2632
02:48:38,940 --> 02:48:42,630
about how he plans to make an
impact at this HBCU. But first,

2633
02:48:42,630 --> 02:48:46,350
let's flip. Let's find out more
about that big news from my

2634
02:48:46,350 --> 02:48:50,790
friend Deion Sanders this
morning. A huge score for

2635
02:48:50,790 --> 02:48:54,360
Jackson State University in
Mississippi. Deion Sanders, the

2636
02:48:54,360 --> 02:48:58,320
football hall of famer World
Series competitor and two times

2637
02:48:58,320 --> 02:49:01,230
Super Bowl champion, taking over
the head coach at the

2638
02:49:01,230 --> 02:49:03,090
historically black university.

2639
02:49:03,210 --> 02:49:07,350
That is a pivotal turning point
for JSU football and Jackson

2640
02:49:07,350 --> 02:49:08,370
State University.

2641
02:49:08,730 --> 02:49:12,000
The announcement expected to
bring renewed energy to the JSU

2642
02:49:12,000 --> 02:49:15,510
athletic program, making the
school a bigger draw for

2643
02:49:15,510 --> 02:49:18,690
potential recruits, Sanders
announcements coming on the

2644
02:49:18,690 --> 02:49:22,050
heels of five star recruit mCore
maker who stunned us sports

2645
02:49:22,050 --> 02:49:26,370
world where he committed to
Howard University, another HBCU

2646
02:49:26,490 --> 02:49:30,810
saying that he hopes to make the
HBCU movement real so that

2647
02:49:30,840 --> 02:49:32,070
others will follow.

2648
02:49:32,490 --> 02:49:35,460
I remember it's not that big a
deal. It was because of course

2649
02:49:35,460 --> 02:49:37,710
he was playing for the Yankees
and the Mets were the fans or go

2650
02:49:37,710 --> 02:49:40,680
D like bad or bad about it. You
know, that kind of thing. Okay.

2651
02:49:41,220 --> 02:49:42,060
That's what that was about.

2652
02:49:42,150 --> 02:49:45,960
Yeah. What you see now how he
could become a disruptive figure

2653
02:49:45,960 --> 02:49:52,020
in his being. Yeah, very. And I
have to say it is Deion Sanders

2654
02:49:52,020 --> 02:49:57,750
is by far one of the top
athletes in American history.

2655
02:49:58,320 --> 02:50:01,830
And we're not talking about it.
Are we talking about money

2656
02:50:01,830 --> 02:50:05,040
celebrity? I'm talking about
Michael Jordan. Oh, yeah.

2657
02:50:05,070 --> 02:50:08,640
Because he had the personality,
you know, saying like, he, he's

2658
02:50:08,640 --> 02:50:11,220
one of those people that he
makes you smile by him smiling

2659
02:50:11,280 --> 02:50:16,530
kind of person. You know, he
just, and he's so. So set in his

2660
02:50:16,530 --> 02:50:21,480
confidence. You know that it
just, it's just amazing. I mean,

2661
02:50:21,480 --> 02:50:25,980
I grew up watching Dr. Always
from Florida State. And he gave

2662
02:50:25,980 --> 02:50:29,040
me high hopes when he started
going to HBCU. I'm like, okay,

2663
02:50:29,340 --> 02:50:34,020
that kind of figure going to the
HBCU and kids are saying

2664
02:50:34,020 --> 02:50:38,280
gravitated towards him. That can
be very disruptive. You want to

2665
02:50:38,280 --> 02:50:39,120
say something before we go.

2666
02:50:39,600 --> 02:50:41,550
No, no, no, I'm good. I'm all
yours.

2667
02:50:42,360 --> 02:50:46,680
My friend the one and only Deion
Sanders Dion. Thank you for

2668
02:50:46,680 --> 02:50:49,680
joining us. Congratulations to
you. We heard one of your

2669
02:50:49,680 --> 02:50:52,860
players say Oh, it does doesn't
feel real, that they feel real

2670
02:50:52,860 --> 02:50:55,200
to you and what went through
your mind when the opportunity

2671
02:50:55,200 --> 02:50:57,450
to be the head coach of Jackson
State University came along.

2672
02:50:59,040 --> 02:51:02,430
I was elated. You talking about
a team academically that leads

2673
02:51:02,430 --> 02:51:06,780
the FCS in APR. You're talking
about a school? That's

2674
02:51:06,810 --> 02:51:11,160
unheralded, 33,000 fans, which
is astounding. You're talking

2675
02:51:11,160 --> 02:51:14,700
about four former Hall of Famers
that matriculated from this

2676
02:51:14,700 --> 02:51:19,230
institution. I am excited. I'm
I'm elated. I have on my whistle

2677
02:51:19,230 --> 02:51:21,720
right now. I cannot wait to get
on the grass and do some

2678
02:51:21,720 --> 02:51:22,470
coaching. Yeah,

2679
02:51:22,470 --> 02:51:24,330
good. Don't blow you with the
doing this interview. We don't

2680
02:51:24,330 --> 02:51:27,660
we don't need that this morning.
But there are a lot of good and

2681
02:51:27,660 --> 02:51:30,600
a big 10 schools, for instance,
big 10 schools today, they have

2682
02:51:30,600 --> 02:51:34,110
so many more resources. But you
decided to go to Jackson State

2683
02:51:34,110 --> 02:51:36,900
when I'm sure you had other
opportunities. So this is an

2684
02:51:36,900 --> 02:51:40,020
historic move why that's so
important to you to coach at an

2685
02:51:40,020 --> 02:51:40,830
HBCU.

2686
02:51:42,690 --> 02:51:45,600
First and foremost, God led me
to Jackson State. That's what I

2687
02:51:45,600 --> 02:51:49,860
can truly honestly say. And it's
just sitting on that stage and

2688
02:51:49,860 --> 02:51:54,330
looking my people in the eye and
saying and proclaiming what I

2689
02:51:54,330 --> 02:51:57,510
plan on doing with this program.
We have a coaching staff that

2690
02:51:57,510 --> 02:52:00,870
has 84 years of NFL Experience
combined coaching and playing.

2691
02:52:01,170 --> 02:52:04,290
And these kids just need the
level field, just level they

2692
02:52:04,290 --> 02:52:07,860
need the playing field level. I
cannot wait for this

2693
02:52:07,860 --> 02:52:11,220
opportunity. If you give us the
resources you give us the same

2694
02:52:11,220 --> 02:52:13,830
resources that these other
schools have. We're going to

2695
02:52:13,830 --> 02:52:16,560
prove that there is a highway
that takes you from Jackson

2696
02:52:16,560 --> 02:52:19,830
State all the way into the NFL,
and professionalism. We're not

2697
02:52:19,830 --> 02:52:21,930
just raising professional
football players. We're raising

2698
02:52:21,930 --> 02:52:22,650
professionals

2699
02:52:22,680 --> 02:52:25,770
new the highway. That's right,
roll.

2700
02:52:27,810 --> 02:52:31,560
That's where he messed up.
Because when you set this

2701
02:52:31,560 --> 02:52:34,500
standard that God sends me for
my people,

2702
02:52:34,530 --> 02:52:37,470
oh, he's Yeah, he's a Christian.
Oops.

2703
02:52:38,190 --> 02:52:42,600
Well, you start tapping into
that Messiah figure. By I'm

2704
02:52:42,600 --> 02:52:45,750
hearing you're saying that
resurrect HBCU football people

2705
02:52:45,750 --> 02:52:51,840
start believing you. And when
that dream comes to an end, as

2706
02:52:51,840 --> 02:52:55,710
you're gonna see later, he gets
a lot of backlash from when he

2707
02:52:55,710 --> 02:52:59,340
decides to take his talents
elsewhere. Does spoiler alert,

2708
02:52:59,430 --> 02:53:02,460
I'm just telling you, like when
you start that God sent me for

2709
02:53:02,460 --> 02:53:07,470
our people, bah, bah, bah, that
says, you know, okay, we got to

2710
02:53:07,470 --> 02:53:09,720
say we got up someone you're
saying like, yeah, do you know

2711
02:53:09,720 --> 02:53:16,890
you're saying go to HBCUs. And I
think that was the beginning of

2712
02:53:16,890 --> 02:53:19,920
his downfall for if he ever saw,
you know, he didn't give

2713
02:53:19,920 --> 02:53:22,380
yourself any wiggle room, which
I knew. And let's give me a

2714
02:53:22,380 --> 02:53:26,790
little history of Deion Sanders,
like a quick 32nd history. Dr.

2715
02:53:26,790 --> 02:53:30,720
Sanders has always done what's
best for him. He came up with

2716
02:53:30,720 --> 02:53:34,920
the term business decision. That
means like, if a guy's coming at

2717
02:53:34,920 --> 02:53:38,790
him, he's a defensive player.
I'm not gonna tackle him, I'm

2718
02:53:38,790 --> 02:53:41,340
gonna shout out push him out of
bounds. I'm not gonna tackle him

2719
02:53:41,340 --> 02:53:44,730
because I got to live to play
another game. Another day. So

2720
02:53:44,730 --> 02:53:46,410
this isn't meant not nothing.

2721
02:53:47,580 --> 02:53:50,160
That when you say Oh, I made a
business decision. Is that what

2722
02:53:50,460 --> 02:53:56,100
he created the term business
decision? Yeah. Fast forward. He

2723
02:53:56,100 --> 02:53:59,370
went from Atlanta to San
Francisco won a championship

2724
02:53:59,370 --> 02:54:02,880
with San Francisco Super Bowl
left from there. The very next

2725
02:54:02,880 --> 02:54:07,950
year went to Dallas, their arch
enemy. USA. So it's like he he's

2726
02:54:08,400 --> 02:54:11,850
higher sward? Which I have no
problem with that. You're gonna

2727
02:54:11,850 --> 02:54:14,760
say if you're upfront honest
with people, but I understood

2728
02:54:14,760 --> 02:54:17,880
when you start making zoning
around a God sent me and I'm

2729
02:54:17,880 --> 02:54:21,150
hearing you're saying that build
the highway, you're saying and

2730
02:54:21,630 --> 02:54:24,210
yeah, that becomes a problem. So
let's go ahead and get to the

2731
02:54:24,210 --> 02:54:28,200
final clip. Before we thanks for
more people, but then I'm gonna

2732
02:54:28,200 --> 02:54:30,480
explain to you you're saying how
it went wrong.

2733
02:54:30,690 --> 02:54:35,280
And I am HBCU proud of myself.
So I think this, as you said, it

2734
02:54:35,280 --> 02:54:37,920
gives some legitimacy to the
program that and does put you on

2735
02:54:38,640 --> 02:54:41,160
the same playing field, which is
very important for all these

2736
02:54:41,160 --> 02:54:44,670
young men out there and and a
top Prospect Record maker, he

2737
02:54:44,670 --> 02:54:47,940
was recruited by some big
college basketball program, he

2738
02:54:47,940 --> 02:54:50,010
had announced that he was going
to attend Howard University

2739
02:54:50,130 --> 02:54:53,850
because it is an HBCU. So do you
think this is the beginning of a

2740
02:54:53,850 --> 02:54:56,130
trend by some of these young
black athletes?

2741
02:54:57,600 --> 02:55:00,780
I'm praying so I'm not just the
young black guy. Please parents

2742
02:55:00,780 --> 02:55:04,680
as well. Only a kid just wants
to know when I leave the inner

2743
02:55:04,680 --> 02:55:07,470
city can I go to a better
situation? That's why we're

2744
02:55:07,470 --> 02:55:09,900
trying to show them how
wonderful the dorms are the

2745
02:55:09,900 --> 02:55:12,870
training tables. We have new
facilities going in Jackson

2746
02:55:12,870 --> 02:55:16,440
State University as we speak,
which should be concluded by

2747
02:55:16,440 --> 02:55:20,460
June. I cannot wait loans these
kids know we're gonna get a

2748
02:55:20,460 --> 02:55:24,330
better situation didn't once we
left, there have to do it. And

2749
02:55:24,330 --> 02:55:27,480
I'm praying that they do because
we sent out a bunch of offers

2750
02:55:27,480 --> 02:55:30,810
yesterday to some of the best
we're not recruiting low caliber

2751
02:55:30,810 --> 02:55:33,420
kids. We're recruiting the same
kids at some of the major

2752
02:55:33,420 --> 02:55:35,760
universities are recruiting and
we plan on landing them.

2753
02:55:39,420 --> 02:55:43,290
Alright, so you see the standard
he set for himself? Yeah. That

2754
02:55:43,290 --> 02:55:45,750
was a few years ago. This is
Pete George Floyd around that

2755
02:55:45,750 --> 02:55:51,270
era. You know, in the Colin
Kaepernick this all in that era,

2756
02:55:51,300 --> 02:55:56,190
you know, saying so just to give
you some context to help people

2757
02:55:56,190 --> 02:55:58,440
were thinking at the time, but
let's go ahead and thanks some

2758
02:55:58,440 --> 02:56:02,760
more people. And then we'll get
to the fallout after after. We

2759
02:56:02,760 --> 02:56:03,330
thanks to people.

2760
02:56:05,400 --> 02:56:07,830
I like brand new money. I just I
don't want any money around me.

2761
02:56:07,830 --> 02:56:12,810
It's not. I'd almost rather have
a new one than a brand then an

2762
02:56:12,810 --> 02:56:16,950
old 20 That's kind of dumb. But
there's some bad new money that

2763
02:56:16,950 --> 02:56:22,890
excites you. You like $100
bills. owe money to the most

2764
02:56:22,890 --> 02:56:25,770
beautiful thing on earth is $100
bill I haven't seen a woman is

2765
02:56:25,770 --> 02:56:28,860
good looking at $100 bill.
There's something about a bill

2766
02:56:28,860 --> 02:56:29,580
that excites you.

2767
02:56:30,180 --> 02:56:33,450
That's right. Don't get too used
to him because that paper money

2768
02:56:33,450 --> 02:56:36,450
is going away fast and furious.
However, we love getting some

2769
02:56:36,450 --> 02:56:39,540
value from you. And you can do
that through Pay Pal. You can do

2770
02:56:39,540 --> 02:56:43,770
it through podcasting 2.0 apps,
which we discussed earlier. A

2771
02:56:43,770 --> 02:56:47,610
couple more producers to thank
we really appreciate the $40 we

2772
02:56:47,610 --> 02:56:52,650
got from Alejandro alo shell out
CO ser Jennifer Kato and Matthew

2773
02:56:52,650 --> 02:56:58,320
Weaver, Raphael Nagrand says
much respect also in $39.99.

2774
02:56:58,320 --> 02:57:01,920
Nice with much respect for being
a great example of a good family

2775
02:57:01,920 --> 02:57:05,280
head. I'm a child from a broken
family who got married and I'm

2776
02:57:05,280 --> 02:57:08,730
trying to sew up a legacy
together with my wife and two

2777
02:57:08,730 --> 02:57:11,340
boys. Thanks for the
inspiration. Keep mo fact in

2778
02:57:11,340 --> 02:57:14,940
them in the mouse. All right.
You got a man thank you. We got

2779
02:57:14,940 --> 02:57:21,630
a combined Mark Jay Asher
2412 12 And two, and he says oh,

2780
02:57:21,630 --> 02:57:24,600
he said actually he loved
episode 29 The row know what a

2781
02:57:24,600 --> 02:57:29,370
classic. When will the word when
will the word they be banned?

2782
02:57:29,850 --> 02:57:32,010
I'm not quite sure what he means
by that they

2783
02:57:32,040 --> 02:57:35,370
were the word they I think the
word may be banned.

2784
02:57:35,400 --> 02:57:40,200
Ah, gotcha. And it's actually
sent to to for the for the

2785
02:57:40,200 --> 02:57:46,470
episode 29 We appreciate that.
David J. Langford. $34.56 Could

2786
02:57:46,470 --> 02:57:50,070
you do an episode on suburb kids
wearing blackface Halloween

2787
02:57:50,070 --> 02:57:50,970
costumes?

2788
02:57:51,330 --> 02:57:55,740
I looked at his Twitter and it's
just some people in blackface

2789
02:57:56,040 --> 02:58:03,180
were praising suits on Utah
Yeah, I mean I you probably put

2790
02:58:03,180 --> 02:58:03,690
the link in

2791
02:58:04,409 --> 02:58:06,959
I'll put the link in the show
notes so I haven't looked at it

2792
02:58:06,959 --> 02:58:11,759
so I have no opinion by the way.
Maybe a future show. I'd love to

2793
02:58:11,759 --> 02:58:14,309
talk to you about what's
happening with so called Black

2794
02:58:14,309 --> 02:58:16,019
Twitter on Mastodon

2795
02:58:17,490 --> 02:58:21,210
This is really etiquette. Yeah,
the collars mods. Yeah, very

2796
02:58:21,210 --> 02:58:23,820
interesting. Anyway, just we'll
set that aside. I'm glad I'm

2797
02:58:23,820 --> 02:58:25,950
glad you already heard about it.
So I'll pick up on that later.

2798
02:58:26,250 --> 02:58:29,400
Now we got some 30 threes value
for value from Christopher de

2799
02:58:29,400 --> 02:58:34,530
biasI. Mount Mark Talbot $30
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2800
02:58:34,530 --> 02:58:40,170
you. He says thank you as well.
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Alright, so I gave you the brief
history of Deion Sanders sports

2860
03:02:35,550 --> 03:02:38,190
career but we got to go back a
little bit further just to

2861
03:02:38,190 --> 03:02:42,120
understand who he is in the
making as a person. This is a

2862
03:02:42,120 --> 03:02:47,190
from a 2002 documentary
primetime to Deion Sanders story

2863
03:02:47,220 --> 03:02:50,130
this is gonna go over his
childhood real quickly so we can

2864
03:02:50,130 --> 03:02:52,110
just get an understanding who he
is.

2865
03:02:54,330 --> 03:02:57,120
Deion Sanders grew up living
with his mother and sister in a

2866
03:02:57,120 --> 03:03:01,170
public housing project in Fort
Myers, Florida. A neighborhood

2867
03:03:01,170 --> 03:03:03,900
so riddled with crime came with
its own jail.

2868
03:03:04,380 --> 03:03:08,220
The police decided to put a
police substation right inside

2869
03:03:08,220 --> 03:03:10,440
the project. So they could take
the jail right here in the

2870
03:03:10,440 --> 03:03:14,280
project. And they put barbed
wire all around is a sort of

2871
03:03:14,280 --> 03:03:15,030
like a prison.

2872
03:03:16,560 --> 03:03:19,950
Dance all the pain and misery of
the projects from close range.

2873
03:03:20,610 --> 03:03:24,270
His father, daddy Buck who left
the family when dad was a child

2874
03:03:24,270 --> 03:03:27,300
was frequently unemployed and
addicted to drugs.

2875
03:03:27,690 --> 03:03:32,640
My biological father died but he
use drugs. I've seen him when

2876
03:03:32,640 --> 03:03:35,190
needles people in his room
shooting up and those are the

2877
03:03:35,190 --> 03:03:39,150
reasons why I've never chosen to
drink or smoke in entirety of my

2878
03:03:39,150 --> 03:03:39,660
life.

2879
03:03:40,170 --> 03:03:48,240
Mennonites, you know. We lay up
in the bed and we talk you know,

2880
03:03:48,240 --> 03:03:52,350
and I explained to him you know
that your dad is gone, but I'm

2881
03:03:52,350 --> 03:03:57,150
here for you. Last time we
cried. We made

2882
03:03:57,930 --> 03:03:59,040
the Huxtables unreal.

2883
03:03:59,249 --> 03:04:03,419
Do you know an African American
families? Really? I don't I

2884
03:04:03,419 --> 03:04:06,629
don't know anyone who whose
father is a doctor to mother's

2885
03:04:06,629 --> 03:04:08,459
lawyer. I don't we didn't grow
up like this.

2886
03:04:11,070 --> 03:04:18,390
So I rang the bell because um it
just goes to show you that he

2887
03:04:18,390 --> 03:04:21,570
doesn't drink he doesn't smoke.
And the worst thing you could

2888
03:04:21,570 --> 03:04:27,000
say like he likes to party I
mean like how fun they me.

2889
03:04:27,900 --> 03:04:32,880
Strong black men raise his sons
to be outstanding man. I think

2890
03:04:32,880 --> 03:04:35,730
that's why he was kind of
marginalize for for somebody

2891
03:04:35,730 --> 03:04:39,000
with his I mean, you got to
understand. Deion Sanders was

2892
03:04:39,000 --> 03:04:44,040
the only non quarterback to have
his own video game. And that's

2893
03:04:44,040 --> 03:04:50,580
how I mean everything was I mean
Nikes rise was really huge with

2894
03:04:50,580 --> 03:04:54,300
Dallas Cowboys rise and Deion
Sanders rise. him running down

2895
03:04:54,300 --> 03:05:00,120
the sideline with a bandana on
with the Nike Nike band Do

2896
03:05:00,660 --> 03:05:06,120
headbands around his neck all
Nike symbols all over. But some

2897
03:05:06,120 --> 03:05:10,500
reason he they didn't elevate
him like they do a LeBron or

2898
03:05:10,590 --> 03:05:14,430
even Michael Jordan. What could
it be? Because he has clean cut

2899
03:05:14,460 --> 03:05:21,090
image, right? I just found that
weird. You're saying that he

2900
03:05:21,090 --> 03:05:24,390
wasn't given the if he weren't
given his flowers I'll say like

2901
03:05:24,390 --> 03:05:25,920
that, like you think he should
have?

2902
03:05:27,060 --> 03:05:30,630
Okay. All right. So and there's
reasons for that, I guess.

2903
03:05:31,440 --> 03:05:34,380
Right? Because why you don't fit
that he didn't didn't fit the

2904
03:05:34,380 --> 03:05:39,870
profile? Well, it's a funny
thing because he came in right

2905
03:05:39,870 --> 03:05:43,410
when hip hop was getting big.
And he was one of the first hip

2906
03:05:43,410 --> 03:05:46,650
hop athletes you say embracing
that. You know,

2907
03:05:46,680 --> 03:05:49,500
didn't even go imagery. You need
to a hip hop song.

2908
03:05:49,710 --> 03:05:59,340
tinny. Yeah, must be the money
must be baseball basketball

2909
03:05:59,370 --> 03:06:02,970
game, excuse me, baseball,
football, a pro level baseball,

2910
03:06:03,210 --> 03:06:08,910
football. music video. I mean,
he had it all. But for some

2911
03:06:08,910 --> 03:06:12,240
reason, they wouldn't elevate
him. And I think the reason why

2912
03:06:12,240 --> 03:06:19,020
because he didn't fit that.
Negative Hip Hop imagery. They

2913
03:06:19,020 --> 03:06:21,510
were trying to run when you were
saying like, he's a preacher,

2914
03:06:21,510 --> 03:06:24,420
man, or whatever you're saying
like, he's a goody, goody. So I

2915
03:06:24,420 --> 03:06:27,810
just want to point that out. Um,
anything else you'd like to say?

2916
03:06:28,380 --> 03:06:33,090
No, no, no, keep up. So now we
get to development of primetime

2917
03:06:33,090 --> 03:06:35,550
the actual personality and
that's 36.

2918
03:06:36,419 --> 03:06:39,689
As a poor kid from the projects,
Deion Sanders had used school

2919
03:06:39,689 --> 03:06:43,769
sports to steer clear of drugs
and crime. Now at the age of 18.

2920
03:06:43,769 --> 03:06:47,249
As he graduated high school, he
was facing new temptations. The

2921
03:06:47,249 --> 03:06:50,699
Kansas City Royals were offering
the quick road to riches, just

2922
03:06:50,699 --> 03:06:53,729
as Florida State had offered
Dion a free ride to college.

2923
03:06:53,910 --> 03:06:57,810
He thought if they can offer him
send the 5000 He can make even

2924
03:06:57,810 --> 03:07:00,000
much more if he go to college.

2925
03:07:00,419 --> 03:07:04,589
I believe in me, like no other.
If you don't believe in

2926
03:07:04,589 --> 03:07:06,059
yourself, hey, nobody else will.

2927
03:07:07,860 --> 03:07:09,510
And I think I'm going to school.

2928
03:07:15,870 --> 03:07:19,620
In the summer of 1985, Dion
chose to attend Florida State.

2929
03:07:20,010 --> 03:07:22,980
By the end of his first year, he
was making a name for himself in

2930
03:07:22,980 --> 03:07:27,180
three sports, football,
baseball, and sometimes track

2931
03:07:28,830 --> 03:07:32,190
our track coach ask him when you
run in one of our meats,

2932
03:07:33,150 --> 03:07:36,390
probably our only one of your
meats. So he runs into meat and

2933
03:07:36,390 --> 03:07:38,790
whips world class fellas

2934
03:07:42,090 --> 03:07:44,010
that's the kind of genetics I'm
talking about.

2935
03:07:45,090 --> 03:07:45,480
Yeah.

2936
03:07:47,820 --> 03:07:50,970
And there's only one Deion
Sanders in his world. That

2937
03:07:50,970 --> 03:07:53,730
that's the level I'm talking
about that you can just oh yeah,

2938
03:07:53,730 --> 03:07:58,590
go run. Right and what people
have been training for. I mean,

2939
03:07:58,590 --> 03:08:01,440
that's their discipline is the
run track and track it takes

2940
03:08:01,440 --> 03:08:04,710
form. I'll just go out here
running now.

2941
03:08:05,460 --> 03:08:09,180
Literally just run. Right. I
don't have any technique I'm

2942
03:08:09,180 --> 03:08:09,870
just gonna run.

2943
03:08:10,650 --> 03:08:13,860
Right so I'm just sure I mean,
that that's that's one in a

2944
03:08:13,860 --> 03:08:18,360
lifetime you're saying I would
say one in a generation type of

2945
03:08:19,200 --> 03:08:24,360
talent you know and God gift and
ability but he was smart enough

2946
03:08:24,360 --> 03:08:29,730
to monetize it. And you can see
how he was smart enough to

2947
03:08:29,730 --> 03:08:32,910
you're saying because you have
control an image and 37 and you

2948
03:08:32,910 --> 03:08:33,990
if you would like to ask him

2949
03:08:35,520 --> 03:08:39,810
No, you rang the bell about him
going to school? Because you can

2950
03:08:39,810 --> 03:08:42,300
make more money. They said oh
yeah, yeah,

2951
03:08:42,300 --> 03:08:46,200
cuz he understood like if
they're gonna pay me 75,000 To

2952
03:08:46,200 --> 03:08:50,220
play baseball minor league I
gotta be worth more and that

2953
03:08:50,220 --> 03:08:55,050
leads me to my Master P quote,
you're saying that I learned to

2954
03:08:55,050 --> 03:08:58,500
live by another person that you
know, he didn't conform to the

2955
03:08:58,500 --> 03:09:01,440
way the industry wanted to go
with music. But he said if they

2956
03:09:01,440 --> 03:09:05,790
want to pay you to me you must
be worked for right so it's this

2957
03:09:05,790 --> 03:09:09,300
mentality of knowing your worth
believing in yourself. You know,

2958
03:09:09,300 --> 03:09:13,170
and this is this is the kind of
people we grew up looking to you

2959
03:09:13,170 --> 03:09:16,440
know, saying like primetime out
there he get the respect he's

2960
03:09:16,440 --> 03:09:19,800
supposed to get you know, I'll
tell you up there with Jordan

2961
03:09:19,830 --> 03:09:24,660
Isley that kind of person not
take away money and personality

2962
03:09:24,660 --> 03:09:29,490
and and position. He's up there
with those guys. Bow right on.

2963
03:09:30,630 --> 03:09:31,890
Alright, so 37

2964
03:09:32,640 --> 03:09:33,960
Deion Sanders deals.

2965
03:09:36,000 --> 03:09:39,270
By a sophomore year Dion had
sealed his reputation as someone

2966
03:09:39,270 --> 03:09:43,530
to watch. The ambitious 19 year
old wanted much more. So Dion

2967
03:09:43,530 --> 03:09:45,750
created a character he felt
would distinguish him from the

2968
03:09:45,750 --> 03:09:47,820
rest of the pack. primetime.

2969
03:09:48,180 --> 03:09:52,560
Somebody convinced him hey, you
can make a lot of money if you

2970
03:09:52,560 --> 03:09:54,570
sell yourself and that's exactly
what he did.

2971
03:09:56,580 --> 03:09:59,610
Stealing a page from the school
of corporate marketing being

2972
03:09:59,610 --> 03:10:05,190
created Character gave it a
nickname. He began wearing gold

2973
03:10:05,190 --> 03:10:10,710
chains and giant rings. Dion
drove around campus and his new

2974
03:10:10,710 --> 03:10:13,620
Chrysler convertible with
personalized primetime license

2975
03:10:13,620 --> 03:10:16,800
plates. talking on his cell
phone all courtesy of his hard

2976
03:10:16,800 --> 03:10:20,940
working mother Connie. The top
quarterback in college football

2977
03:10:20,940 --> 03:10:24,030
hope primetime would help draw
crowds and ticket sales

2978
03:10:24,270 --> 03:10:27,840
convincing big league scouts to
write him vaguely checks

2979
03:10:28,470 --> 03:10:31,830
he's the miser quarterbacks
isn't making any money. He's got

2980
03:10:31,830 --> 03:10:36,270
to do something to make plenty
of money. Because he always used

2981
03:10:36,270 --> 03:10:41,760
to always say a closed mouth is
never feed just created a

2982
03:10:41,760 --> 03:10:42,300
monster.

2983
03:10:43,050 --> 03:10:46,530
But the prime time monster was
more than just clothing. Time

2984
03:10:46,530 --> 03:10:50,640
Time was also an attitude. An
attitude Dion created based on

2985
03:10:50,640 --> 03:10:52,680
his four favorite sports idols.

2986
03:10:52,980 --> 03:10:55,920
Muhammad Ali because I love his
brashness, but he backed it up.

2987
03:10:56,190 --> 03:10:59,370
Hank Aaron for the way he
endured those trials and

2988
03:10:59,370 --> 03:11:02,130
tribulations racism. OJ Simpson.

2989
03:11:02,400 --> 03:11:06,660
He was juice and pizza care his
life and took care him

2990
03:11:06,930 --> 03:11:14,010
Dr. J. Julius constant
professional business life slide

2991
03:11:15,360 --> 03:11:16,200
of the dramatic.

2992
03:11:17,250 --> 03:11:19,380
Did it was his mama momager.

2993
03:11:20,820 --> 03:11:25,530
No, and that's that's cap.
That's bullcrap that his mama

2994
03:11:25,530 --> 03:11:30,000
was paying for his cell phone
and Chrysler LeBaron that he was

2995
03:11:30,000 --> 03:11:32,610
dropped, taught close the
Luberon he was riding around it.

2996
03:11:32,880 --> 03:11:36,810
That was Florida State. And if
this is this is the day like we

2997
03:11:36,810 --> 03:11:41,220
see I grew up ground on ground
zero of collegiate sports in

2998
03:11:41,220 --> 03:11:44,100
Durham, North Carolina. Do you
have a chapel here? Right, we're

2999
03:11:44,100 --> 03:11:48,930
seeing an eight miles down the
road. We saw these guys receive

3000
03:11:48,930 --> 03:11:53,160
Wallace Jerry Stackhouse. All
I'm saying grant, he'll have

3001
03:11:53,160 --> 03:11:56,700
money you're saying Dad was
wealthy or rich, where however

3002
03:11:56,700 --> 03:11:59,820
you want to put it. But these
guys talking about Dad had come

3003
03:11:59,820 --> 03:12:02,490
from nothing. And all of a
sudden, they're moving their

3004
03:12:02,490 --> 03:12:05,880
whole family down for wherever
they lived in apartments. And

3005
03:12:06,240 --> 03:12:10,890
then once that is, is a double
standard, you're gonna hear a

3006
03:12:10,890 --> 03:12:14,940
little bit later that his mom
was paying for all now he would

3007
03:12:14,940 --> 03:12:18,360
say he did everything he did,
because my dad had no money. Now

3008
03:12:18,360 --> 03:12:20,940
all of a sudden, she has all
this money to pay for what he

3009
03:12:20,940 --> 03:12:24,120
has. You see what I'm saying?
Like,

3010
03:12:24,150 --> 03:12:29,220
well, that's like my, again, I
was 17. But 18 Whenever I went

3011
03:12:29,220 --> 03:12:32,700
to college, and I had no idea I
was I for all intensive

3012
03:12:32,700 --> 03:12:35,610
purposes, European. I didn't
know about anything. And I you

3013
03:12:35,610 --> 03:12:39,120
know, I connected pretty well
with with the football team and

3014
03:12:39,120 --> 03:12:42,990
a couple of guys on the team.
And it was invited some parties,

3015
03:12:43,290 --> 03:12:46,200
and it's like, Oh, this guy's
off campus. He's got a cool pad.

3016
03:12:46,200 --> 03:12:48,660
He's got a car's on a coach take
share that we mean the coach

3017
03:12:48,660 --> 03:12:52,650
takes care. shouldn't talk about
that. Ah, okay, so now I see.

3018
03:12:53,370 --> 03:12:53,700
And it's

3019
03:12:53,700 --> 03:12:58,440
really the boosters who take
care of Oh, yeah, that is and

3020
03:12:58,440 --> 03:13:04,710
just as a quick aside, we've saw
boosters in a movie, but they

3021
03:13:04,710 --> 03:13:07,620
put a sugar coat on it called
the blindside you ever seen that

3022
03:13:07,620 --> 03:13:08,580
lie? Of course. I've

3023
03:13:08,580 --> 03:13:10,890
seen The Blindside? Absolutely.
Okay.

3024
03:13:11,280 --> 03:13:16,470
The movie is a lot different
from from reality that they

3025
03:13:16,470 --> 03:13:19,680
picked this guy up off the
street in your disk, brought

3026
03:13:19,680 --> 03:13:23,220
them into their home and dad to
teach them how to play football.

3027
03:13:23,220 --> 03:13:28,080
That dude was already a top
recruit. Right when they but

3028
03:13:28,110 --> 03:13:32,640
they brought him in their home.
And with the understanding that

3029
03:13:32,880 --> 03:13:36,870
you can go to school where you
want to, but we're your but our

3030
03:13:36,870 --> 03:13:40,530
family and you're part of our
family goes to I think it was

3031
03:13:41,370 --> 03:13:45,720
Mississippi State or omit one of
those schools were SEC schools.

3032
03:13:46,170 --> 03:13:51,570
There's no saying and this is
common. Got a guy went to school

3033
03:13:51,570 --> 03:13:55,290
with they realized he could play
basketball real well in Round

3034
03:13:55,290 --> 03:13:59,610
six, seven a great plan Little
League. family moved him in.

3035
03:14:00,060 --> 03:14:02,400
LeBron James went through the
same thing. And it's a

3036
03:14:02,400 --> 03:14:06,450
phenomenon. If you ever watched
any professional draft, you're

3037
03:14:06,450 --> 03:14:10,260
going to see the family and
you'll see oftentimes the white

3038
03:14:10,260 --> 03:14:14,100
family that you're saying like
oh, this is an asset,

3039
03:14:14,460 --> 03:14:16,800
the Sandra Bullock, right.

3040
03:14:18,150 --> 03:14:21,420
Yeah, I'm telling you, dude,
watch any Sports Draft, we were

3041
03:14:21,420 --> 03:14:25,350
saying you will see. It's the
real family, the biological

3042
03:14:25,350 --> 03:14:28,320
family. And then there's the
benefactors, which I have no

3043
03:14:28,350 --> 03:14:31,860
issue with. You're saying My
issue is, we need to start

3044
03:14:31,890 --> 03:14:39,600
taking these kids in route to
HBCUs. And I'm not a hater. It

3045
03:14:39,600 --> 03:14:42,690
was working. But I'm telling you
this. They like to paint the

3046
03:14:42,690 --> 03:14:45,510
blind side. Oh, we didn't know
he could play football. You were

3047
03:14:45,510 --> 03:14:48,750
saying like, No, you knew
exactly what you were getting

3048
03:14:48,750 --> 03:14:51,630
when you let him in your home.
You're saying and it was with

3049
03:14:51,630 --> 03:14:54,780
the understanding that we could
rouse you as a booster to our

3050
03:14:54,780 --> 03:14:56,460
university. Alma Mater.

3051
03:14:56,460 --> 03:14:59,700
So when you saw the movie, The
Blind Side, right? Do you see

3052
03:14:59,700 --> 03:15:01,290
it? Nothing. theater. No,

3053
03:15:01,320 --> 03:15:02,520
I saw it at home. Okay,

3054
03:15:02,550 --> 03:15:03,810
so what did you think of it?

3055
03:15:04,620 --> 03:15:09,900
I knew exactly what was going on
from the beginning. I mean, I

3056
03:15:09,900 --> 03:15:12,540
hate the sound light but I
really do what is

3057
03:15:13,980 --> 03:15:16,710
so what was the point of this
movie? Was it just a feel good

3058
03:15:16,710 --> 03:15:17,280
movie,

3059
03:15:17,610 --> 03:15:25,350
no to properly put to popularize
that method to say it's okay to

3060
03:15:25,350 --> 03:15:29,640
saying bring top five, four or
five star recruits into your

3061
03:15:29,640 --> 03:15:33,600
home to route no to your
university. And like I say the

3062
03:15:33,600 --> 03:15:36,030
thing about his mom getting pat
him on paying for all that

3063
03:15:36,030 --> 03:15:39,450
stuff. We saw his eye on we used
to the mom and Nike head gave

3064
03:15:39,450 --> 03:15:43,230
her a job. You don't say like
come on site they will LeBron

3065
03:15:43,230 --> 03:15:46,260
James his mama bought him a
Hummer, he will say like well.

3066
03:15:48,570 --> 03:15:53,460
So what I'm saying is is very
clear. And it was all movie

3067
03:15:53,460 --> 03:15:56,640
called the program the boosters
count to get at her $100

3068
03:15:56,640 --> 03:15:59,670
handshake. I'll go down to the
booth, go down to the

3069
03:15:59,670 --> 03:16:03,000
dealership, a booster now never
runs the dealership, pick out a

3070
03:16:03,000 --> 03:16:06,630
car and listen, that kind of
thing. Or you get a job you

3071
03:16:06,630 --> 03:16:09,630
don't have to show up to and
we'll cut you a paycheck, that

3072
03:16:09,630 --> 03:16:13,350
kind of thing. So I'm just I'm
just saying like there's a whole

3073
03:16:13,350 --> 03:16:19,680
system to it. And now that to
show you that Dion was

3074
03:16:19,680 --> 03:16:23,610
effective, which I'm gonna skip
over 38 and go straight to 39

3075
03:16:23,850 --> 03:16:29,220
for the sake of time, but all 38
was saying what Deion Sanders

3076
03:16:29,220 --> 03:16:35,610
said, I am a he said there are
people coming to me saying he

3077
03:16:35,610 --> 03:16:38,700
felt like he should have been a
preacher. But he's like, No, I

3078
03:16:38,700 --> 03:16:41,370
just go directly to the people.
And that's the back said that's

3079
03:16:41,370 --> 03:16:43,530
the that's his personality.
People are drawn to him. They

3080
03:16:43,530 --> 03:16:46,950
love Trump. You're saying we all
love i don't know i haven't met

3081
03:16:46,950 --> 03:16:50,400
a person yet that didn't like
Dr. I even myself, I hated Dr.

3082
03:16:50,400 --> 03:16:54,030
When he played for 40 Niners.
Next year he called the Dallas

3083
03:16:54,060 --> 03:16:57,360
biggest dei fan in the world. He
was saying like this is what

3084
03:16:57,360 --> 03:16:58,350
kind of guy he is.

3085
03:16:58,380 --> 03:17:00,930
But you know, I can't remember
as a super charming nice guy.

3086
03:17:01,530 --> 03:17:05,130
Right with this huge million
watt smile. He was

3087
03:17:06,480 --> 03:17:08,970
exactly very charming. Very
charming, right?

3088
03:17:09,330 --> 03:17:13,740
So the show that he's it was
effective at what he's doing. I

3089
03:17:13,740 --> 03:17:17,550
got an 18 second clip. Now next,
just because you know why

3090
03:17:17,550 --> 03:17:20,940
sports, Nick Saban is like the
king of college football right

3091
03:17:20,940 --> 03:17:24,720
now at Alabama, at the same
Alabama that we spoke about

3092
03:17:24,720 --> 03:17:29,580
before. He was saying
University. He was getting off

3093
03:17:29,610 --> 03:17:33,360
me Alabama, they had guys that
wouldn't even start and going to

3094
03:17:33,360 --> 03:17:38,430
the NFL. This is how stat he was
with talent. Dion came in and

3095
03:17:38,430 --> 03:17:42,000
started becoming effective.
upset him out albacore you could

3096
03:17:42,000 --> 03:17:43,740
hear it in 38. We have

3097
03:17:43,740 --> 03:17:47,010
a rule right now that says you
cannot use name image likeness

3098
03:17:47,010 --> 03:17:50,250
to entice a player to come to
your school. He'll read about it

3099
03:17:50,250 --> 03:17:53,340
in the paper. I mean, Jackson
State paid a guy a million

3100
03:17:53,340 --> 03:17:56,100
dollars last year that was a
really good division one player

3101
03:17:56,130 --> 03:17:58,650
to come to school. It was in the
paper and they bragged about it.

3102
03:17:59,580 --> 03:18:00,960
Nobody did anything about it.

3103
03:18:02,430 --> 03:18:07,050
And went Wow, okay. It's not
supposed to be unmentioned.

3104
03:18:07,920 --> 03:18:13,200
You would think I mean, cuz I'm
telling you coach Kade I love

3105
03:18:13,200 --> 03:18:17,160
Duke basketball. I love ACC
basketball. But Coach K was

3106
03:18:17,160 --> 03:18:20,670
paying players not him. But the
boosters. Dean's to me it was

3107
03:18:20,670 --> 03:18:25,110
paying players not him. But the
boosters. All these teams pay

3108
03:18:25,110 --> 03:18:28,200
their players one way or
another. But the fact that when

3109
03:18:28,200 --> 03:18:31,470
Dion started doing it, and then
they changed the rule recently,

3110
03:18:31,830 --> 03:18:35,310
where these player can start
using their kneel or name, image

3111
03:18:35,310 --> 03:18:38,700
and likeness, to monetize
themselves, YouTube channels,

3112
03:18:38,700 --> 03:18:41,250
whatever else now is a new game.

3113
03:18:41,280 --> 03:18:44,880
Now when you say the boosters
how does that mechanism work, I

3114
03:18:44,880 --> 03:18:47,820
understand what they are but
where it tells me how the can

3115
03:18:47,820 --> 03:18:49,410
now it connects to the
university where

3116
03:18:49,620 --> 03:18:52,410
the boosters they write checks
to the university so the

3117
03:18:52,410 --> 03:18:56,520
universities can have added it's
two ways it works. It's above

3118
03:18:56,520 --> 03:19:01,770
board and below. Well, three
ways one, you can house

3119
03:19:01,770 --> 03:19:05,220
potential recruits like The
Blind Side and route them to

3120
03:19:05,220 --> 03:19:07,860
your universe. That's one way
let them borrow your car

3121
03:19:07,890 --> 03:19:08,730
your convertible

3122
03:19:09,270 --> 03:19:14,430
right to you can write a huge
check, you know, in help pay for

3123
03:19:14,430 --> 03:19:18,600
these facilities. Wherever guy
you're saying they got the top

3124
03:19:18,600 --> 03:19:26,010
of the line nutrition top of the
line. training facilities.

3125
03:19:26,670 --> 03:19:29,910
weightless, right? When they get
injured. They have these pools

3126
03:19:29,910 --> 03:19:34,110
they run in zero gravity pool
that treadmills in their locker

3127
03:19:34,110 --> 03:19:34,890
room look like for

3128
03:19:35,100 --> 03:19:38,520
Alabama, to make the facility
attractive for them to come to.

3129
03:19:38,790 --> 03:19:41,910
Right. And not only that, and
here's the thing if you say to

3130
03:19:41,910 --> 03:19:48,240
me, my son and he turns out to
be a five star athlete and you

3131
03:19:48,240 --> 03:19:53,970
say do you want him to go to
Alabama or HBCU there's a real

3132
03:19:55,650 --> 03:20:00,210
there's a real conversation and
thought process. I'm good It's a

3133
03:20:00,210 --> 03:20:05,100
third one, but I gotta lay it
out the second one. Rehab, these

3134
03:20:05,100 --> 03:20:13,290
guys tear ACL MCL. All the time.
Alabama's team doctor was the

3135
03:20:13,290 --> 03:20:16,830
team doctor for pro athletes as
well. Everybody flew down to him

3136
03:20:16,830 --> 03:20:21,570
to get their ACL MCL is repaired
right? Yeah, this this is how

3137
03:20:21,570 --> 03:20:25,800
serious I mean, like, like you
will do a thoroughbred horse.

3138
03:20:26,100 --> 03:20:29,010
You're saying we gotta let him
run? You know, we can't let him

3139
03:20:29,040 --> 03:20:29,370
we're

3140
03:20:30,510 --> 03:20:32,400
treating them like they're
animals. Mo.

3141
03:20:33,090 --> 03:20:37,350
Exactly. Now, you see, now you
see the legacy is still there.

3142
03:20:38,460 --> 03:20:43,110
But if you like I said, Now, if
you get hurt at HBCU or small

3143
03:20:43,110 --> 03:20:48,210
school, you might go to you're
saying the county hospital and

3144
03:20:48,210 --> 03:20:50,640
your career is over. You're
saying that we've seen this all

3145
03:20:50,640 --> 03:20:52,980
the time. You saw that in Friday
Night Lights you're saying with

3146
03:20:52,980 --> 03:20:56,010
the movie with movie Daniels?
They're saying towards me career

3147
03:20:56,010 --> 03:20:58,890
over? I'm just saying and then
the third one is that hurt all a

3148
03:20:58,890 --> 03:21:02,130
handshake kind of thing which I
laid out. You're saying? The

3149
03:21:02,130 --> 03:21:05,220
under you're saying give you
money under the board. Right.

3150
03:21:05,280 --> 03:21:10,590
And recently this the captisol
off? Brett Farbe he was leaning

3151
03:21:10,590 --> 03:21:15,120
on politicians to Bill his
daughter's volleyball team of $4

3152
03:21:15,150 --> 03:21:17,700
million of volleyball stadium.

3153
03:21:18,510 --> 03:21:20,910
Yeah, but he's Brett Farve so
okay.

3154
03:21:21,450 --> 03:21:26,160
Right. He was able to do all
this. And it was like no harm no

3155
03:21:26,160 --> 03:21:29,640
foul. So I'm just showing you
when you start coming in and

3156
03:21:29,640 --> 03:21:32,550
being effective, like Dr. Was he
was started getting top

3157
03:21:32,550 --> 03:21:37,470
recruits. It's kind of an I had
to say there's no way to save

3158
03:21:37,470 --> 03:21:41,760
that. You got to get rid of him.
And what I mean get rid of him

3159
03:21:41,760 --> 03:21:45,990
is a lot of people say to Dr.
Sell out, did Dr. Sell out? I

3160
03:21:45,990 --> 03:21:49,770
say no Dion was bought off.
Let's listen to clip 40 and then

3161
03:21:49,860 --> 03:21:51,420
explain to you what I mean by
that

3162
03:21:51,540 --> 03:21:57,180
Deion Sanders wasn't really
paying attention. And then like,

3163
03:21:57,600 --> 03:22:01,650
the social media blew up, people
will no longer friends anymore.

3164
03:22:03,120 --> 03:22:08,700
Social media after Thanksgiving.
That would have been I know

3165
03:22:08,700 --> 03:22:12,600
fried about politics. So Deion
Sanders, named head coach for

3166
03:22:12,600 --> 03:22:16,950
the University of Colorado after
coaching at HBCU Jackson State.

3167
03:22:17,040 --> 03:22:21,300
Some people have been critical
and felt like it's just loyal.

3168
03:22:21,300 --> 03:22:24,300
But other people like don't
count his money. That's right,

3169
03:22:24,330 --> 03:22:25,530
my man get ahead in

3170
03:22:25,530 --> 03:22:30,570
the world. And you know what?
disloyal, he only revived a more

3171
03:22:30,570 --> 03:22:33,780
abundant program. They're
brought all kinds of attention

3172
03:22:33,780 --> 03:22:37,710
to the SW AC the southwestern
Athletic Conference, otherwise

3173
03:22:37,710 --> 03:22:42,390
called the SWAC. And the HBCUs.
In general. Well, yes. Everybody

3174
03:22:42,390 --> 03:22:46,170
benefited from the glare of the
spotlight that he was under. Not

3175
03:22:46,170 --> 03:22:50,100
only do he do a phenomenal job
winning two consecutive swag

3176
03:22:50,100 --> 03:22:53,520
titles they play in the
championship game. The bowl game

3177
03:22:53,520 --> 03:22:57,060
coming up, I think is December
the 17th. He said he is going to

3178
03:22:57,060 --> 03:22:59,790
finish out the deal. Hey, look,
he never said he was there to

3179
03:22:59,790 --> 03:23:03,840
stay for an eternity. The two
issues one because the HBCUs

3180
03:23:03,840 --> 03:23:08,100
have been so overlooked since
the NFL raided it of all of his

3181
03:23:08,130 --> 03:23:13,020
awesome talent decades ago, and
he now has brought new attention

3182
03:23:13,020 --> 03:23:16,440
there. That's a good thing.
They've all benefited Dion

3183
03:23:16,440 --> 03:23:19,470
speech when he was talking to
his players, he made the point

3184
03:23:19,470 --> 03:23:23,070
that, hey, in the coaching
profession, you are either shown

3185
03:23:23,070 --> 03:23:26,550
the door, or the few times that
happens, you can walk out on

3186
03:23:26,550 --> 03:23:30,450
your own. So he's got other
things he wants to accomplish,

3187
03:23:30,480 --> 03:23:31,980
and everybody's going to
benefit.

3188
03:23:32,700 --> 03:23:34,770
Is this ESPN or TMZ?

3189
03:23:35,249 --> 03:23:41,009
This was CVS. This is good more
than one of those morning shows?

3190
03:23:41,429 --> 03:23:46,709
Like Yeah. The main morning show
or whatever I have over CBS.

3191
03:23:47,459 --> 03:23:50,969
Gayle, your show could ask Jim,
that's Jim Brown speaking. I'm

3192
03:23:51,059 --> 03:23:53,849
not the Jim James
groundskeeping. Not Jim Brown.

3193
03:23:54,449 --> 03:23:58,199
But yeah, so when he said I'm
leaving and going to University

3194
03:23:58,199 --> 03:24:03,809
of Colorado, predominantly white
institution, or white school, a

3195
03:24:03,809 --> 03:24:07,949
lot of people are upset with Dr.
Sure. And rightfully so because,

3196
03:24:08,309 --> 03:24:11,669
in my opinion, you set the
standard that I'm here to build

3197
03:24:11,669 --> 03:24:15,149
a highway, you want to stay in
front, you know, and I'm here

3198
03:24:15,179 --> 03:24:19,529
and we got to be honest, now is
where we get to get to be honest

3199
03:24:19,919 --> 03:24:24,449
about we all we all have been
honest, but brutally honest. He

3200
03:24:24,449 --> 03:24:27,899
set the standard that he was
going to be this change agent of

3201
03:24:27,899 --> 03:24:31,949
change to come in and use his
celebrity to draw kids and money

3202
03:24:31,949 --> 03:24:35,579
to Jackson State. And you know,
all of that.

3203
03:24:35,610 --> 03:24:38,940
And it was only two years or
something it was there. Right.

3204
03:24:39,239 --> 03:24:42,299
Right. I think three years if
I'm not mistaken. Oh, well, I

3205
03:24:42,299 --> 03:24:46,559
wouldn't know. Well, I'm not
sure myself. It was three years.

3206
03:24:46,799 --> 03:24:52,949
But here's the thing, Jackson
State let you be prom. If you go

3207
03:24:52,949 --> 03:24:57,689
to Alabama, you're going to be
proud but within our parameters,

3208
03:24:57,959 --> 03:25:02,219
they gave him carte blanche Send
a B and whoever say Do whatever

3209
03:25:02,219 --> 03:25:05,459
you want to run the program how
you want it to. And a lot of

3210
03:25:05,459 --> 03:25:08,279
other schools didn't want it
like Deion Sanders coached their

3211
03:25:08,279 --> 03:25:11,159
school because they were like he
didn't have a college degree and

3212
03:25:11,159 --> 03:25:15,689
all it is. So the HBCU gave you
your chance. And they you came

3213
03:25:15,689 --> 03:25:19,529
in with all this Messiah talk.
So you can't be frustrated with

3214
03:25:19,529 --> 03:25:23,279
people, because they expect you
to live up to your expectations.

3215
03:25:23,429 --> 03:25:27,119
Now, on the other hand, Jackson
State didn't take care of Dr.

3216
03:25:27,149 --> 03:25:31,079
Order school. And Jackson State
is down there. And you're saying

3217
03:25:31,079 --> 03:25:33,479
in Mississippi, where they had
the Jackson, Mississippi where

3218
03:25:33,479 --> 03:25:37,589
they don't normally have clean
water, he was saying like, he

3219
03:25:37,589 --> 03:25:40,289
had to cut the grass himself.
They would like say they didn't

3220
03:25:40,289 --> 03:25:44,159
couldn't pay him. But this is
what I can say I'm kind of torn

3221
03:25:44,159 --> 03:25:46,979
because on one hand, I can see
it both ways. You set the

3222
03:25:46,979 --> 03:25:50,519
standard that you didn't live up
to. But I understand who Deion

3223
03:25:50,519 --> 03:25:55,349
Sanders really is from following
who I'm saying all my spending

3224
03:25:55,349 --> 03:25:58,349
most of my life, watching this
and watching these business

3225
03:25:58,349 --> 03:26:01,979
moves. So you know, that's
that's the weird part about it.

3226
03:26:01,979 --> 03:26:05,279
And it's like, we can never have
nothing unless we start building

3227
03:26:05,279 --> 03:26:08,189
it ourselves. And people like,
well, that's a far fetched

3228
03:26:08,189 --> 03:26:12,989
dream, not to me. Now, we got to
have a little more storytime, I

3229
03:26:12,989 --> 03:26:17,759
went to three colleges, right.
First I went to my parents went

3230
03:26:17,759 --> 03:26:20,939
to Appalachian State University.
That's what I graduated from.

3231
03:26:20,969 --> 03:26:23,369
And the only reason they went
there because they went back to

3232
03:26:23,369 --> 03:26:27,419
school in their late 20s, early
30s. And that was the only place

3233
03:26:27,419 --> 03:26:31,379
to have apartments on campus in
the 80s actual apartments that

3234
03:26:31,379 --> 03:26:35,699
was near where they grew up it.
So I grew up on a white campus,

3235
03:26:35,819 --> 03:26:39,329
you know, and they were even
broken and proud of me, then he

3236
03:26:39,329 --> 03:26:42,569
was saying, because I was like,
I went to school on campus. And

3237
03:26:42,569 --> 03:26:45,389
he was I remember being at an
apple two computer and like, Oh,

3238
03:26:45,419 --> 03:26:47,699
you're saying, oh, black kid can
work a computer, you know,

3239
03:26:47,699 --> 03:26:51,569
saying, and that kind of thing.
I mean, like looking backwards,

3240
03:26:51,569 --> 03:26:54,119
you can kind of tell I mean, not
saying a negative way. But they

3241
03:26:54,119 --> 03:26:56,579
show interest in me, you know,
saying, of course, because I was

3242
03:26:56,729 --> 03:27:02,039
these black face in all white
class. So my parents graduate

3243
03:27:02,039 --> 03:27:04,379
from there, both my brothers
went there and graduated from

3244
03:27:04,379 --> 03:27:08,819
there. Here's your cause my
turn. And I really didn't want

3245
03:27:08,819 --> 03:27:12,719
to go, I really didn't want to
go at all. I wanted to go to

3246
03:27:12,719 --> 03:27:16,259
black school, right? But it was
like torn, because it's like, do

3247
03:27:16,259 --> 03:27:18,479
you go where your parents
graduate and your brother?

3248
03:27:18,479 --> 03:27:21,539
You're saying keep the family
tradition? Or do you go what you

3249
03:27:21,539 --> 03:27:24,779
want to do. And I went there one
year, and I will come to school

3250
03:27:25,079 --> 03:27:28,949
on Monday and leave on Thursday.
That's how I have my classes set

3251
03:27:28,949 --> 03:27:33,959
up. And I will be back home
Thursday night. Because it was

3252
03:27:33,959 --> 03:27:38,519
just, I was a fish out of water.
He was saying, I would just it

3253
03:27:38,519 --> 03:27:44,039
just didn't work for me. So then
I go in. I told them I'm not

3254
03:27:44,039 --> 03:27:47,339
going back to school. Like right
before, right before I was

3255
03:27:47,339 --> 03:27:51,629
taught to go out comes the
slipper. Right? It was a nice,

3256
03:27:51,839 --> 03:27:53,819
you're going to school
somewhere. Like when she told

3257
03:27:53,819 --> 03:27:57,899
you that you saw then I go to
UNC cu NorCal on central Central

3258
03:27:57,899 --> 03:28:01,739
University, the ones that beat
Jackson State recently. So in

3259
03:28:01,739 --> 03:28:04,229
the championship game, and I go
there for a year and you're

3260
03:28:04,229 --> 03:28:07,319
saying as a you go to school
somewhere option, and then I end

3261
03:28:07,319 --> 03:28:12,569
up at Northland NC State
University, you know, and I'll

3262
03:28:12,569 --> 03:28:15,659
just say it like this, I think
every black kid and experience

3263
03:28:15,659 --> 03:28:19,739
that they'll be in that kind of
nurturing environment and weird

3264
03:28:19,739 --> 03:28:22,709
part about it on campus
nurturing, but the problem is

3265
03:28:22,709 --> 03:28:29,819
they build it in low low income
real estate around it. So you

3266
03:28:29,819 --> 03:28:32,609
get this weird thing like you're
on campus and you're doing your

3267
03:28:32,609 --> 03:28:35,969
thing. And if you go one block
over you might get robbed. And

3268
03:28:35,969 --> 03:28:39,479
that's a reality and that's
Deion Sanders got stuff got

3269
03:28:39,479 --> 03:28:42,449
robbed we're saying down at
Jackson State. So I'll lay all

3270
03:28:42,449 --> 03:28:44,819
this out to say you're saying
this is why this show was

3271
03:28:44,819 --> 03:28:48,149
important for me because I could
kind of see it both ways. But

3272
03:28:48,629 --> 03:28:51,389
going back to App State, they
had a football team and they

3273
03:28:51,389 --> 03:28:54,149
were kind of rinky dink when he
first started out but they ended

3274
03:28:54,149 --> 03:28:57,119
up being one of the biggest
schools in college football

3275
03:28:57,119 --> 03:28:59,909
Michigan University University
of Michigan and I assure you if

3276
03:28:59,909 --> 03:29:03,179
his continual growth and
building you could get to that

3277
03:29:03,179 --> 03:29:08,159
level you know saying like you
not sit where you start off of

3278
03:29:08,159 --> 03:29:11,699
course everything's possible but
a lot of people believe I'm

3279
03:29:11,699 --> 03:29:14,489
saying go for the Fast Book, you
know that kind of thing you

3280
03:29:14,489 --> 03:29:18,479
know, and and you it's that town
the Tim kind of thing and you're

3281
03:29:18,479 --> 03:29:22,709
going to hear in the next set of
clips. So he made the wrong the

3282
03:29:22,709 --> 03:29:24,929
right decision. Would you want
to say something I'll just I'm

3283
03:29:24,929 --> 03:29:27,869
doing a lot of talking because
you know, it's part of this is

3284
03:29:27,869 --> 03:29:29,069
the person who shouted me Sure.

3285
03:29:29,100 --> 03:29:31,680
Well, all the shows are
personal. Right? I was just

3286
03:29:31,680 --> 03:29:35,220
saying like, you certainly
didn't choose the fast buck

3287
03:29:35,220 --> 03:29:36,930
doing a podcast was what I was
thinking.

3288
03:29:37,710 --> 03:29:42,900
No, I mean, the same thing is
exactly I mean, you talk about

3289
03:29:42,900 --> 03:29:45,990
this all the time like I could
easily go and hold myself out

3290
03:29:45,990 --> 03:29:52,260
you're saying to either side
left or right and oh you know

3291
03:29:52,260 --> 03:29:55,440
saying as long as I use their
talking point I could do all

3292
03:29:55,440 --> 03:29:59,610
right you know saying but it's
like no, I'm autonomy is huge

3293
03:29:59,610 --> 03:30:02,670
for me. Right, it was and I
think that's a real problem that

3294
03:30:02,700 --> 03:30:08,070
Dion's gonna face in Colorado.
And I honestly believe I'll save

3295
03:30:08,070 --> 03:30:11,670
that for when we get to this set
of clips. But autonomy is huge

3296
03:30:11,670 --> 03:30:15,600
for me. And I think this is the
best option and the same thing

3297
03:30:15,600 --> 03:30:20,220
with not taking the jab. Right
autonomy is using me you're

3298
03:30:20,220 --> 03:30:24,270
saying like is, that's the only
way you can be a man if you're

3299
03:30:24,270 --> 03:30:28,830
autonomous. I agree. All right,
no Storytime with Moe, let's go

3300
03:30:28,830 --> 03:30:30,270
ahead and get back into 41

3301
03:30:30,540 --> 03:30:34,860
Why can't Deion Sanders just
choose to be with who he wants

3302
03:30:34,860 --> 03:30:35,160
to be?

3303
03:30:35,370 --> 03:30:38,520
Oh, he can go take whatever job
he wants. But when you come into

3304
03:30:38,520 --> 03:30:41,460
the first job and sell the idea
that you are going to be the

3305
03:30:41,460 --> 03:30:44,760
savior of HBCUs and you are
going to raise the playing field

3306
03:30:44,760 --> 03:30:48,000
not just for Jackson State but
for everybody else and you're

3307
03:30:48,000 --> 03:30:51,420
gonna do it because God told you
to do it he didn't said that.

3308
03:30:51,450 --> 03:30:54,780
You said that he explicitly said
that God sent him to do this. Oh

3309
03:30:54,780 --> 03:30:57,840
no. Then when you leave Yeah,
people are going to ask

3310
03:30:57,840 --> 03:31:00,300
questions about what exactly it
was now I don't go into the

3311
03:31:00,300 --> 03:31:03,300
sellout place necessarily. But I
do think he's the monorail

3312
03:31:03,300 --> 03:31:06,330
salesman from The Simpsons he
went in he sold the big dream

3313
03:31:06,330 --> 03:31:08,280
now if you paid any attention
you knew the dream he was

3314
03:31:08,280 --> 03:31:10,950
selling wasn't possibly it was
not an achievable one that he

3315
03:31:10,950 --> 03:31:13,770
had but he sold it and he got
people to believe it and then

3316
03:31:13,770 --> 03:31:14,130
each have to

3317
03:31:14,130 --> 03:31:16,860
do some left so as you know
Shannon Sharpe price so she and

3318
03:31:16,860 --> 03:31:19,140
you heard his comments. I want
to play them for our audience

3319
03:31:19,140 --> 03:31:22,860
because he Shannon Sharpe has a
sort of a rising tide lifts all

3320
03:31:22,860 --> 03:31:25,770
boats. If he did it for Jackson
State, then maybe that helped

3321
03:31:25,770 --> 03:31:28,830
the entire HBCU let's play this
and I want your response to it.

3322
03:31:29,400 --> 03:31:34,050
Okay, that's interesting. Couple
things that while it is probably

3323
03:31:34,050 --> 03:31:36,450
a good lesson that you know, if
you're gonna say God sent me to

3324
03:31:36,450 --> 03:31:39,600
do something, you know, people
are going to expect some big

3325
03:31:39,600 --> 03:31:42,360
things. That's not exactly how
it works. But you know, people

3326
03:31:42,360 --> 03:31:45,480
will Oh, okay, well, if that's
the case, and then the minute

3327
03:31:45,480 --> 03:31:47,700
you decide do something else,
which God could have told him as

3328
03:31:47,700 --> 03:31:53,250
well then and then that doesn't
compute. So that's always a it's

3329
03:31:53,250 --> 03:31:55,320
always a risk to do that.

3330
03:31:57,150 --> 03:32:03,150
And it taps into the psyche of
waiting for Messiah. Yes, it is.

3331
03:32:03,420 --> 03:32:07,290
It's our rampid thought, two
things. I want to dress it one

3332
03:32:07,290 --> 03:32:12,240
at one clip. One is the rampid
thought and we're waiting on the

3333
03:32:12,240 --> 03:32:15,510
Messiah. You're saying who's the
next MLK? Who's the next Malcolm

3334
03:32:15,510 --> 03:32:20,190
X? Who's bro you be the man in
your house for your children?

3335
03:32:20,220 --> 03:32:23,010
Right? I'll do the same. It
wasn't and we will have

3336
03:32:23,010 --> 03:32:26,610
continuous improvement. Not
waiting for somebody to carry us

3337
03:32:26,610 --> 03:32:29,760
to the promised land like Moses,
you know, and that's what Kanye

3338
03:32:29,760 --> 03:32:33,150
was kind of tapping into as
well. With that, you know,

3339
03:32:33,150 --> 03:32:35,700
saying I'm here and I'm like
Moses kind of thing. Excuse me.

3340
03:32:35,700 --> 03:32:39,090
Yeah, I got I got to stop doing
it. But you're saying they were

3341
03:32:39,090 --> 03:32:42,000
saying because like Colin cashes
out Muhammad Ali Cassius Clay. I

3342
03:32:42,000 --> 03:32:44,070
don't want to be disrespectful,
but it's just a muscle memory

3343
03:32:44,070 --> 03:32:48,960
thing. But you know, and then
the other thing is, is this was

3344
03:32:48,960 --> 03:32:52,980
his name. The other guy talking?
I know his name. I can't think

3345
03:32:52,980 --> 03:32:56,520
of it on the in the clue. Yeah,
I can't think it's Bomani.

3346
03:32:56,520 --> 03:33:00,240
Bomani Jones, I believe it is
this downward thinking like, oh,

3347
03:33:00,240 --> 03:33:04,620
it's an impossible feat. Not I
don't know. How, I mean, this is

3348
03:33:04,620 --> 03:33:08,610
a thing like, oh, when you say
this is the kind of downward

3349
03:33:08,610 --> 03:33:11,820
thinking that we had to face is
that oh, you're saying oh, you

3350
03:33:11,820 --> 03:33:16,020
know, that's, that's impossible.
Nothing's impossible. You put

3351
03:33:16,020 --> 03:33:18,960
your wheel to it and belief in
it. But that's the kind of thing

3352
03:33:18,960 --> 03:33:21,810
like he should have been sold
out. That's what I'm hearing. He

3353
03:33:21,810 --> 03:33:26,010
should just should have went
straight past go and collect his

3354
03:33:26,010 --> 03:33:29,940
$200. And it's the justification
and I'm gonna tell you this,

3355
03:33:30,510 --> 03:33:34,530
this hit home with a lot of the
sports casters, cuz he's like

3356
03:33:34,560 --> 03:33:36,390
what you were saying about the
podcast? He's like, why don't

3357
03:33:36,390 --> 03:33:39,210
you start your own podcast? Why
don't you go to YouTube and

3358
03:33:39,210 --> 03:33:41,760
start your own channel? Why you
are here working for ESPN.

3359
03:33:44,100 --> 03:33:50,550
Sally's saying Deanna sell out
by working for ESPN. Me saying

3360
03:33:50,550 --> 03:33:53,730
like, we all know the history of
Disney. But it's like, whoa,

3361
03:33:53,730 --> 03:33:57,000
like you were saying? Yeah.
Hello. It was weird. It was

3362
03:33:57,000 --> 03:34:01,410
weird. He was saying just weird.
Did he strike out on his own,

3363
03:34:01,410 --> 03:34:03,060
but y'all will? Well,

3364
03:34:03,090 --> 03:34:05,400
I mean, this is mainstream
media, you know, what do you

3365
03:34:05,400 --> 03:34:06,210
expect from him?

3366
03:34:09,300 --> 03:34:13,260
I was gonna say, that wouldn't
be expectation. I was gonna say

3367
03:34:13,260 --> 03:34:17,190
to be at least fair. I mean,
like y'all are working for big

3368
03:34:18,180 --> 03:34:23,910
organizations and companies.
Sure. So, like I said, if

3369
03:34:24,720 --> 03:34:29,250
the media builds up, the media
breaks down. The media

3370
03:34:29,700 --> 03:34:31,980
facilitates a comeback. That's
the way it always goes.

3371
03:34:32,700 --> 03:34:37,590
And we start at 41 or 42. We 42
is up next. Okay, it's gonna get

3372
03:34:37,590 --> 03:34:40,560
in the 40. Sorry about that.
Let's go and get the 42 D and D

3373
03:34:40,560 --> 03:34:43,650
is something that very few
coaches are able to do. He

3374
03:34:43,650 --> 03:34:48,300
leveraged his relationships.
Skill. No football team had more

3375
03:34:48,300 --> 03:34:52,350
uniform than Jackson State,
except the University of Oregon,

3376
03:34:52,950 --> 03:34:56,670
Under Armour. Every single week.
They got new helmets. They got

3377
03:34:56,670 --> 03:35:01,950
new unis. He did this with our
Walmart He took 150,000 of his

3378
03:35:01,950 --> 03:35:04,920
salary and helped finish
building the facilities he did.

3379
03:35:04,950 --> 03:35:07,710
He leveraged his relationship
with American Airlines. He

3380
03:35:07,710 --> 03:35:12,510
brought us to HBCUs guilt by
talking about HBCUs, especially

3381
03:35:12,510 --> 03:35:15,750
now, they're talking about their
own television. That's because

3382
03:35:15,750 --> 03:35:21,990
of him. He gave you a blueprint.
Now follow the blueprint. He's

3383
03:35:21,990 --> 03:35:24,300
saying basically, mission
accomplished. But do you think

3384
03:35:24,360 --> 03:35:27,090
Well, I mean part of it, and
Allah shattered the death. Part

3385
03:35:27,090 --> 03:35:29,160
of where I disagree with him is
somebody that was singular to

3386
03:35:29,160 --> 03:35:31,260
Deion Sanders, like we do have
to admit that he is the

3387
03:35:31,260 --> 03:35:33,990
charismatic individual, like,
just because Dion could do it

3388
03:35:34,110 --> 03:35:36,390
doesn't mean that everybody else
can do it. That's the first

3389
03:35:36,390 --> 03:35:38,610
part. The second thing they're
gonna play in the celebration

3390
03:35:38,610 --> 03:35:41,520
bowl, I believe next week in
Atlanta against the champions of

3391
03:35:41,520 --> 03:35:44,280
the MEAC. They played in that
bowl game last year, South

3392
03:35:44,280 --> 03:35:47,160
Carolina State blew their doors
off in that game. Do you know

3393
03:35:47,160 --> 03:35:49,350
the head coach of South Carolina
State? Can you name a single

3394
03:35:49,350 --> 03:35:51,750
player, South Carolina State, I
can't, it brought attention to

3395
03:35:51,750 --> 03:35:54,780
Dion, it brought attention to
Jackson State, you weren't gonna

3396
03:35:54,780 --> 03:35:57,510
bring attention to all these
other schools in the time period

3397
03:35:57,510 --> 03:35:59,430
that he was there. Like if he
was really going to accomplish

3398
03:35:59,430 --> 03:36:02,490
that. That's a 10 year program.
At least you're saying he had to

3399
03:36:02,490 --> 03:36:02,940
stay.

3400
03:36:03,600 --> 03:36:08,160
Alright, so that once again,
that negative thinking one thing

3401
03:36:08,160 --> 03:36:13,980
that was the uniforms, a point I
want to make on that is that I

3402
03:36:13,980 --> 03:36:18,960
only difference between D one
and D three HBCU. And he's even

3403
03:36:18,960 --> 03:36:23,130
saying these different levels of
football, is the cameras is the

3404
03:36:23,130 --> 03:36:24,630
uniform, you know, what's that
like?

3405
03:36:24,960 --> 03:36:26,430
To show the show element?

3406
03:36:26,670 --> 03:36:29,100
Right? You can shoot it a
certain way. I mean, because

3407
03:36:29,100 --> 03:36:34,140
like when HBCU you got like one
stationary camera to fit your

3408
03:36:34,140 --> 03:36:37,290
line. And then you got maybe a
couple on the sidelines.

3409
03:36:37,320 --> 03:36:41,970
100% is like Elvis performing in
a circus tent. I mean, you need

3410
03:36:41,970 --> 03:36:45,360
you need the whole kit and
caboodle to make it the

3411
03:36:45,390 --> 03:36:47,220
spectacle that football is.

3412
03:36:47,760 --> 03:36:52,290
Right. And a lot of that is the
uniforms. And the cameras. You

3413
03:36:52,290 --> 03:36:56,460
know, we've seen this, you know,
so that's one thing. And he did

3414
03:36:56,460 --> 03:37:01,410
laid out in the blueprint
because he could have easily the

3415
03:37:01,410 --> 03:37:04,920
blueprint is bringing celebrity
coaches, I don't care if it

3416
03:37:04,920 --> 03:37:08,730
could coach football a lick or
not. You're saying I won't.

3417
03:37:08,970 --> 03:37:13,950
Jerome Bettis and all these
legends walking up and down HBCU

3418
03:37:13,980 --> 03:37:19,500
HBCU sidelines as the draw. And
then your staff be you're saying

3419
03:37:21,180 --> 03:37:25,500
we'll highly trained. But you're
the draw. You're saying you you

3420
03:37:25,500 --> 03:37:27,960
are that's what Dr. Not to take
away from his football

3421
03:37:27,960 --> 03:37:30,810
knowledge. What I'm saying
you're the ambassador for your

3422
03:37:30,810 --> 03:37:33,600
school, you know, you're going
to do in the press runs and

3423
03:37:33,600 --> 03:37:37,230
whatever like that. Now, one of
the things I want to talk about

3424
03:37:37,230 --> 03:37:43,320
is one of his supporters was
Walmart. Walmart, you dare to

3425
03:37:43,320 --> 03:37:50,730
push the vaccine? How heavy is
it? Nobody's going to talk like

3426
03:37:50,760 --> 03:37:54,360
like this because they either
gonna be pro prime or anti look,

3427
03:37:54,840 --> 03:37:57,540
I think probably a good thing. I
think he should stay in longer

3428
03:37:57,540 --> 03:38:00,540
if his goal was to build that
highway, but if you want to take

3429
03:38:00,540 --> 03:38:04,980
his talents elsewhere, you know,
I'm all for it too. Because one

3430
03:38:04,980 --> 03:38:08,790
thing is his son played for him
and his son's a quarterback and

3431
03:38:08,790 --> 03:38:13,260
if he wants his son to go to a
pro B go to the pros. He got to

3432
03:38:13,260 --> 03:38:17,520
go play against you know, bigger
not bigger school but schools to

3433
03:38:17,520 --> 03:38:23,130
get more attention right that's
the thing. But Walmart they were

3434
03:38:23,130 --> 03:38:29,310
pushing the vaccine heavy at
Jackson State. Dr. had blood

3435
03:38:29,310 --> 03:38:35,310
clots in his toes and lost to
his toes when right after the

3436
03:38:35,310 --> 03:38:39,750
vaccine was started being pushed
crap. Nobody in Elgin when a

3437
03:38:39,750 --> 03:38:44,430
fact check the two for you
people saying he had a long

3438
03:38:44,430 --> 03:38:48,510
history of injuries data. I'm
like, No, that whenever they

3439
03:38:48,510 --> 03:38:53,550
fact check something, that means
something stinks. So I had to be

3440
03:38:53,580 --> 03:38:57,930
honest with you, like all money
ain't good money.

3441
03:38:57,960 --> 03:39:00,240
Do you think that was a part of
his decision to leave?

3442
03:39:01,050 --> 03:39:04,920
I don't know. But I want to say
this. He should have factored in

3443
03:39:04,920 --> 03:39:08,190
and thinking about decision
where he's going to Colorado how

3444
03:39:08,220 --> 03:39:13,290
attitude but we know how to
plays in Michigan. Yeah, for

3445
03:39:13,290 --> 03:39:16,260
sure. We get some value prayer
for Dr instead of prom, you

3446
03:39:16,260 --> 03:39:20,100
know, because I don't know if
you factor that in or not. But

3447
03:39:20,160 --> 03:39:25,860
um, yeah, so I would just want
to lay that out there. And just

3448
03:39:25,890 --> 03:39:29,490
one final point. The reason why
I say I don't think he sold out

3449
03:39:29,490 --> 03:39:35,310
I think he was bought off. He's
going to want to code this. No

3450
03:39:35,310 --> 03:39:37,950
pun intended. Why this place is
there is Cotter University

3451
03:39:37,950 --> 03:39:41,160
Colorado, having a black coach
for there is nothing new that

3452
03:39:41,160 --> 03:39:44,580
has to before two or three
before him. So it's not that

3453
03:39:44,580 --> 03:39:50,460
spectacular in that case. What
is is Nike has a long, lucrative

3454
03:39:50,460 --> 03:39:55,470
relationship with Colorado. I
think this was the body on off.

3455
03:39:55,680 --> 03:40:00,480
So he doesn't become the change
agent that he wanted to do. To

3456
03:40:00,480 --> 03:40:03,660
start saying, Oh, we can start
going to HBCUs. Because what

3457
03:40:03,660 --> 03:40:05,850
people don't understand is in
colleges where you meet your

3458
03:40:05,880 --> 03:40:09,360
agent, and colleges where you
meet your lawyer, and for these

3459
03:40:09,450 --> 03:40:15,780
monies, dues or financial
epicenters investor where he was

3460
03:40:15,780 --> 03:40:16,290
saying like,

3461
03:40:16,410 --> 03:40:19,260
it's a serious industry, I mean,
that's obvious,

3462
03:40:19,709 --> 03:40:23,279
right? And colleges where you
meet colleges where you meet

3463
03:40:23,279 --> 03:40:26,789
your wife. It wasn't that we got
to factor it in there, too. When

3464
03:40:26,789 --> 03:40:29,999
they bring these black kids to
these schools. That's higher

3465
03:40:29,999 --> 03:40:33,539
chance they're gonna meet a
white girlfriend. Oh, why that's

3466
03:40:33,569 --> 03:40:38,159
all this plays into it. Shonda
saying like, I think I think it

3467
03:40:38,159 --> 03:40:41,849
was a high level decision to
say, you heard Nick Saban. Look,

3468
03:40:43,739 --> 03:40:47,429
he already to one player five
star player from us. You want to

3469
03:40:47,429 --> 03:40:50,429
let this keep going? You know,
do you want to go back to the

3470
03:40:50,429 --> 03:40:56,309
Bear Bryant age. And that's what
that's that's real. That's real.

3471
03:40:56,339 --> 03:41:00,629
That's the reality. So anything
else you want to add to it? I

3472
03:41:00,629 --> 03:41:02,489
know I said, I know a lot. But

3473
03:41:02,790 --> 03:41:05,790
I'm enjoying it. Because this is
not my territory, obviously.

3474
03:41:06,300 --> 03:41:10,350
Right. But I like it. And I'm
actually thinking I should pay

3475
03:41:10,350 --> 03:41:12,630
more attention to this. This
might be fun, this football

3476
03:41:12,630 --> 03:41:12,930
thing

3477
03:41:13,410 --> 03:41:16,080
in all you have to do is watch,
you don't gotta watch the games,

3478
03:41:16,080 --> 03:41:18,780
just watch the sports news. I
mean, like the sports media,

3479
03:41:18,810 --> 03:41:22,290
because that's what they argue
about all day, every day, you

3480
03:41:22,290 --> 03:41:26,370
know, saying these different
different facets of the game,

3481
03:41:26,400 --> 03:41:31,680
you know, how they play out, you
know, and in real life. So, got

3482
03:41:31,680 --> 03:41:35,040
the last clip 43 Let's go ahead
and get into the backlash.

3483
03:41:35,130 --> 03:41:38,100
60 minutes, profile them just
like a month or two ago and it

3484
03:41:38,100 --> 03:41:40,620
was on that program. He said, I
believe that God called me

3485
03:41:40,620 --> 03:41:43,770
collect and I had to accept the
charges. And then he said this,

3486
03:41:43,770 --> 03:41:44,280
let's play it.

3487
03:41:46,860 --> 03:41:50,100
That's a lot of folks sit back
on Twitter friends and talk

3488
03:41:50,100 --> 03:41:54,300
about what they're gonna do and
and I wanted to go do it. Do

3489
03:41:54,300 --> 03:42:00,570
what? Change lives, change the
perspective of HBCU football,

3490
03:42:01,080 --> 03:42:04,830
make everyone step up to the
plate and do what's right by

3491
03:42:04,830 --> 03:42:05,640
these kids.

3492
03:42:07,050 --> 03:42:11,130
didn t do that, at least by
starting it. And now as Shannon

3493
03:42:11,130 --> 03:42:14,100
was saying, is it up to others
to carry it forward? I mean,

3494
03:42:14,100 --> 03:42:16,890
if you go out and other Deion
Sanders, right like that's the

3495
03:42:16,890 --> 03:42:19,110
thing of this is that if he was
going if you're talking about

3496
03:42:19,110 --> 03:42:21,660
establishing something long
term, right, something that is

3497
03:42:21,720 --> 03:42:25,740
sustainable the idea he got
started now you go do it. I

3498
03:42:25,740 --> 03:42:26,280
don't you're

3499
03:42:26,280 --> 03:42:29,970
making his blueprint argument
because there are others who are

3500
03:42:30,120 --> 03:42:33,690
in the NFL or former NFL players
who who are Catholic,

3501
03:42:33,720 --> 03:42:35,580
charismatic do and who could
step in

3502
03:42:36,720 --> 03:42:40,050
the last 35 years telling us
ain't but one Deion Sanders,

3503
03:42:40,320 --> 03:42:42,750
always telling us go find
somebody else to do what Deion

3504
03:42:42,750 --> 03:42:45,180
Sanders does. You can't have
this both ways. I don't judge

3505
03:42:45,180 --> 03:42:47,460
him for taking the job in
Colorado, he probably increased

3506
03:42:47,460 --> 03:42:50,880
his salary by something like 15
times, right? I totally get that

3507
03:42:50,880 --> 03:42:54,480
it all makes sense. But what he
did was something that college

3508
03:42:54,480 --> 03:42:57,390
coaches do all the time, which
is you have to sell people for

3509
03:42:57,390 --> 03:43:00,150
your 10 year plans when your
plan is always one year at a

3510
03:43:00,150 --> 03:43:02,340
time. That's the only way that
you could really pull that off.

3511
03:43:02,430 --> 03:43:05,820
So we came in and he sold a long
term vision for what was going

3512
03:43:05,820 --> 03:43:08,400
on at Jackson State. But his
goals and ambitions were always

3513
03:43:08,400 --> 03:43:11,520
to be a Power Five head coach.
My take has always been he went

3514
03:43:11,520 --> 03:43:14,370
to Jackson State primarily
because he wanted to be a head

3515
03:43:14,370 --> 03:43:17,430
coach but didn't want to ever be
anybody's assistant coach. So we

3516
03:43:17,430 --> 03:43:19,860
had to find somebody that would
give him a job and make him a

3517
03:43:19,860 --> 03:43:22,440
head coach so we could have that
on his resume and then he could

3518
03:43:22,440 --> 03:43:24,570
take that to try to get the job
that he actually wanted

3519
03:43:26,100 --> 03:43:31,710
hmm question amongst your
amongst your football watching

3520
03:43:31,710 --> 03:43:35,460
buddies. Is there a descent
about him that people different

3521
03:43:35,460 --> 03:43:38,370
differing opinions is 5050

3522
03:43:39,060 --> 03:43:42,600
I mean, that's that's that's a
you know, saying this straw poll

3523
03:43:42,600 --> 03:43:47,070
kind of thing. Go get the bat
and one one half is go get the

3524
03:43:47,070 --> 03:43:50,430
bag and it's like other half is
like Do not let us down. And

3525
03:43:50,430 --> 03:43:54,180
that's why I'm sitting in the
middle I can understand with his

3526
03:43:54,180 --> 03:43:57,990
language and he used and you get
the misconception that he was

3527
03:43:57,990 --> 03:44:00,990
gonna be a Messiah because
that's what he sold. But on the

3528
03:44:00,990 --> 03:44:06,360
other hand everybody wants to be
the best in their profession.

3529
03:44:06,390 --> 03:44:07,200
You're saying?

3530
03:44:07,680 --> 03:44:11,910
I like what the what that one
commentator said it's like you

3531
03:44:11,910 --> 03:44:14,880
sell your five or 10 year plan
but you've always got a one year

3532
03:44:14,880 --> 03:44:17,250
plan for yourself and that's
true because if you suck then

3533
03:44:17,250 --> 03:44:18,330
you're out after a year.

3534
03:44:19,170 --> 03:44:22,440
Right and that's the thing about
college football is especially

3535
03:44:22,890 --> 03:44:26,220
they assign you to a four year
deal. He was saying but they

3536
03:44:26,220 --> 03:44:29,820
only gave you going in a year or
two if you lose bad enough and

3537
03:44:30,720 --> 03:44:33,660
I'm glad you said that could
remind me of something Colorado

3538
03:44:33,660 --> 03:44:36,240
don't even know how to go pay
Dion they came and said we don't

3539
03:44:36,810 --> 03:44:43,800
have the money just yet. What?
Yes, look it up. We don't know

3540
03:44:43,800 --> 03:44:47,550
how we gonna pay him. No, I said
this is a cost. You have Nike

3541
03:44:47,550 --> 03:44:54,450
backing you want to lose that
stat. It's the established

3542
03:44:54,450 --> 03:44:57,360
route. It's like natural
resources. Like you're talking

3543
03:44:57,360 --> 03:44:59,970
about pipelines, you're saying
that's the natural use that line

3544
03:45:00,000 --> 03:45:04,140
Language in these college sports
pipelines. And yeah, you don't

3545
03:45:04,140 --> 03:45:06,840
want to upset the current
pipeline with a competitor.

3546
03:45:06,870 --> 03:45:09,660
You're like, that's what the
Middle East war you always talk

3547
03:45:09,660 --> 03:45:13,530
about was about the pipelines,
right? This is the same thing.

3548
03:45:13,740 --> 03:45:17,340
They don't Nike don't want to
have to deal with HBCUs. And

3549
03:45:17,490 --> 03:45:20,130
they they're happy. We're
dealing with Alabama and all

3550
03:45:20,130 --> 03:45:23,970
established schools. So they'll
say, Okay, what's the number 5

3551
03:45:23,970 --> 03:45:27,090
million? Oh, yeah, he's not
gonna come here and play that

3552
03:45:27,090 --> 03:45:30,030
out of that. You're saying, oh,
quarterback, whatever. He was

3553
03:45:30,030 --> 03:45:32,100
saying he can he can run it.
However he wants to run it.

3554
03:45:32,130 --> 03:45:36,210
Yeah. 5.0 million. Colorado.
admits we don't have the money

3555
03:45:36,210 --> 03:45:39,810
yet. Hello, Nike. Come help.

3556
03:45:40,500 --> 03:45:42,870
Exactly. Is that in fact, that's

3557
03:45:42,870 --> 03:45:46,590
an open call right there. That's
basically Hey, Nike. I don't

3558
03:45:46,590 --> 03:45:49,380
know, man. Adidas, you guys
interested? I hear you got that

3559
03:45:49,380 --> 03:45:51,570
yay, cat. And you know, and it
sounds like it wouldn't just

3560
03:45:51,570 --> 03:45:54,090
have to be Nike, anybody can
come in and do it now.

3561
03:45:54,480 --> 03:45:58,080
Right? When which, which I have
to look back at my people and

3562
03:45:58,080 --> 03:46:01,890
say y'all dropped the ball.
Deion Sanders supposed to be

3563
03:46:01,890 --> 03:46:05,430
coaching for Howard University,
one of the preeminent HBCUs

3564
03:46:05,430 --> 03:46:09,810
right now, instead of Jay Z
being a point 1% owner, right?

3565
03:46:09,840 --> 03:46:12,240
You could be a champion. Now I'm
not spending nobody else's

3566
03:46:12,240 --> 03:46:14,610
money. You're saying that don't
take me wrong. But if you're

3567
03:46:14,610 --> 03:46:18,840
talking about solutions, y'all
should go in and build the Shawn

3568
03:46:18,840 --> 03:46:24,750
Carter athletic facility. You're
saying Oh, Howard, and Sean Sean

3569
03:46:24,750 --> 03:46:28,710
Diddy Combs. You're saying
athletic department no down and

3570
03:46:28,710 --> 03:46:29,220
wherever

3571
03:46:29,250 --> 03:46:32,610
Beyonce basketball court has all
the cool stuff we can do.

3572
03:46:33,210 --> 03:46:39,960
Exactly. Because guess what that
would tip the scale. But they

3573
03:46:39,960 --> 03:46:44,100
know what's up, and they know,
they can't upset the applecart.

3574
03:46:44,100 --> 03:46:46,770
Like that's part of being the
Boulais you can't bring about

3575
03:46:46,770 --> 03:46:50,040
real change, you know, saying
you had to bring about you know,

3576
03:46:50,040 --> 03:46:55,410
acceptable change. And that's
that's all I gotta say about but

3577
03:46:55,410 --> 03:46:58,170
it's just like it was a
fascinating and to think the

3578
03:46:58,170 --> 03:47:01,830
Jerry Jones and the Deion
Sanders store was going parallel

3579
03:47:01,830 --> 03:47:01,890
at

3580
03:47:01,890 --> 03:47:06,240
the same time that at the same
time saying and say well, you

3581
03:47:06,240 --> 03:47:08,940
have confirmed all my belief
about professional sports and

3582
03:47:08,940 --> 03:47:14,550
that's for sure. And given me
more insight into into how it

3583
03:47:14,550 --> 03:47:17,970
works in America I'm sure it's
the same and all in all sports

3584
03:47:17,970 --> 03:47:21,030
to a degree but man we are
unique, aren't we? We're unique

3585
03:47:21,030 --> 03:47:24,480
how we abuse race for every
thing

3586
03:47:25,770 --> 03:47:28,590
is the greatest mechanism for a
microphone.

3587
03:47:29,760 --> 03:47:33,270
Well, for people who made it to
the end here of this episode of

3588
03:47:33,270 --> 03:47:36,030
MO Fox with Adam curry, your
mind is clear. You're not

3589
03:47:36,030 --> 03:47:41,910
controlled. You've got to you've
got some some shielding now, as

3590
03:47:41,910 --> 03:47:44,310
usual, and we hope to bring a
lot more of that in the coming

3591
03:47:44,310 --> 03:47:47,730
year and 2023 and more I really
appreciate what you do every

3592
03:47:47,730 --> 03:47:51,360
single time on on this podcast.
I really love doing it with you

3593
03:47:51,360 --> 03:47:51,720
brother.

3594
03:47:52,139 --> 03:47:55,289
And I appreciate every every
second we record together Adam

3595
03:47:56,009 --> 03:47:59,789
because it was saying it's a
it's a wonderful time. But as I

3596
03:47:59,789 --> 03:48:04,649
always say pay attention to
everything and the truth will

3597
03:48:04,649 --> 03:48:05,459
reveal itself

3598
03:48:05,579 --> 03:48:11,849
and we will see everybody back
here next year. Right here on mo

3599
03:48:11,849 --> 03:48:16,049
facts with Adam curry episode 89
coming up in January make sure

3600
03:48:16,259 --> 03:48:21,449
you stay tuned to the socials
when we announce it. Moment have

3601
03:48:21,449 --> 03:48:24,539
a great and very happy new year
we'll talk to you in 2023

3602
03:48:24,539 --> 03:48:24,899
Brother

3603
03:48:25,590 --> 03:48:26,490
All right Sandy, you Adam.

3604
03:48:27,360 --> 03:48:30,810
Everybody else see you soon I'm
Mo facts with Adam curry.

3605
03:49:13,890 --> 03:49:13,950
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