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No facts with Adam curry for
June 29 2022. This is episode

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number 83 summers here and so
are we. I'm Adam curry coming to

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you from the heart of the Texas
Hill Country time once again to

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spin that wheel of topics from
here to Northern Virginia.

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Please once again say hello to
my friend on the other end

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ladies and gentlemen, Mr. Moe
facts.

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I know Adam, it Mo's Good to
hear from you, brother. Man.

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Good. It's good to be back in
the saddle. Yeah, and get things

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going.

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Yeah, we got the summer in full
effect right now. And, and I,

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I'm not quite sure what you
brought for us today. But I am

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ready for just before we hit
July, just to check everything

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good there in Northern Virginia.

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Very busy, but it's good. It's
all good. We're very, very busy.

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So but I have another great show
for the people. So I guess

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you're gonna spin that wheel and
we'll get right on soon.

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All right, here we go. spinning
the wheel of topics round around

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and goes where it stops. Nobody
knows. Well, of course, Moe

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actually does know what will the
topic be for Moe facts without

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him curry episode number 83.

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This case is not legal. It is
political.

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This case is not legal. It is
political. Okay. All right. So I

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don't know anything yet. I have
no idea.

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I know people are gonna think
that they talk about whatever's

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in the headline. And

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the first thing I think of is
January 6, J six the the

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primetime purge.

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Not not it, it will take another
guest because I left that clip

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like that just to see if you
news cycle where he kind of came

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in when I'm gonna see if you can
get it.

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Well, I mean, I could look at
the clips or that would be not

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doing Oh, so. Roe v. Wade. Okay.

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No, no, I'll help you out.
Andrew Gilliam. Oh,

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I saw Yes. I saw one article. I
think just one that he was

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convicted of wire fraud. And you
know, it's like, wow, I mean,

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this was the guy who was
supposed to be the governor of

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Florida, right. And it's just
the Democratic Party has

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completely dropped him. No one
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over.

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Ask yourself how much different
things would be if he won in

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DeSantis? Didn't?

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Yeah. I didn't think it'd be
very different right now.

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So that's this. That's why this
news story piqued my interest.

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And we can't forget the fact
that this is Joe Biden's FBI.

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Whoa, wait a minute. Joe Biden's
what does the FBI have to do

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with Gillum?

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That's who that's the charges.
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charges. Oh, I didn't realize
that. All right, grab one count

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of well, let's

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just give it to it. Clip one.

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Andrew Gilliam once rising
Florida democratic star has been

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indicted alongside one of his
longtime advisors for alleged

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fraud tied to his campaign
against Governor Ron DeSantis.

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The 21 count indictment includes
one count of lying to the FBI,

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one count of conspiracy to
commit mail fraud and 19 counts

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of wire fraud. In an earlier
statement, NBC News Gillum

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acknowledged the case but denied
any wrongdoing saying quote,

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every campaign I've run has been
done with integrity. Make no

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mistake that this case is not
legal. It is political. In just

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a few moments. Gillum in his
advisor, Sharon Letterman Hicks

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are scheduled to make their
first court appearance in

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Tallahassee.

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Okay. Well, that changes things
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How can this be political? If
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charge of the Department of
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Well, I mean, isn't that by
default? Exactly. That if the

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Democrats the Democratic Party
is in charge of justice, then

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it's all political? I'd say.

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Yeah, but this is their guy.
This was Obama's guy. Yeah.

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Maybe possibly more ways than
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that's, that was that's where my
thinking goes right away. It's

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like well, you know, this was
Obama's guy. Maybe he needs to

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be shut up.

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Well, we're gonna get into it.
But I just found out this, these

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charges and to get 19 charges,
one charge aligned to the FBI.

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In a world where you're saying
Hunter Biden is getting away

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with murder. We politicians do
this kind of thing all the time.

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We'll get more into the charges
but I just found it very

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strange. Well, he will be
charged but not really, because

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I'm just going to lay out
something right here right now.

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I've mentioned this before.
These are headlines. Fox News

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Clairborne Inc, Democrat, South
Carolina damn show showers

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family members with over 200k
from campaign funds. Magazine

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water pays daughter another
24,000 and campaign cash

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wedding. Previous payment, we

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are purging the Democratic
Party.

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There are some particular but
all these candidates I can tell

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you, Lieutenant Governor
Benjamin resigns for following

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campaign funding finance.
indictments. That's the

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Lieutenant Governor of New York.
What all these people have in

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common? They're all Democrats.
And they're all black. So

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yeah, you're right. I guess
that's, that's fun. Mo I'm, I'm

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so used to not seeing color
anymore that I didn't even

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realize it.

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I just find it strange that all
these headlines are cropping up.

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It's kind of like, stay in line.
Don't you think about leaving

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this plantation. Right.

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Well, but wait a minute. So But
Auntie Maxine. She's not leaving

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the plantation. She is she doing
something wrong? Is she not

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following orders?

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They understand a grant they've
lost a grassroots. Right? We're

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just gonna get it this surface
level of it. You didn't get the

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expected response with Roe v.
Wade from quote unquote, the

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blast?

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No, in fact, quite the opposite.
I'd say. You understand

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the Democrats still need the
vote. These Democrats in these

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districts still need that vote.
The black vote right? And

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they're torn out. This is my
just my perspective and

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political calculus. So they're
looking at the grassroots.

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They're like, Well, I'm damned
if I do. I'm damned if I don't.

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Because if my grassroot people
don't turn out for me. Yeah,

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we're gonna get right. Right,
right. So you can see them

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easily. But we're making a
pivot.

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So I wonder if if Gillum somehow
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the, to the Democrats or to
Obama or whoever else is pulling

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the strings?

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Or could that could be one
thing, or was he just using

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example. To say, hey

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black on black on black, black
lynching, man, that's pretty

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bad.

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Well, we'll get more into that.
Because what since you brought

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it up? You see, they're bringing
in a new class of Democrat

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candidates. The guy with the
noose around his neck.

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Yeah, literally lynching. Yeah.
What's his name?

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He's from Kentucky. You caught
me flat footed. Okay. I'll look

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it up. But I'm him. And then you
have a guy I think got a baton

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rouge. He was in his his
campaign as smoking weed. So

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even the Democrats know we have
to go with a more black male,

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Charles Blake St. Charles
Charles Booker. That's it. Yeah,

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so I think the Democrats are
pivoting you know, all if you

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can do an agent, age ism as
well, for a few of these people.

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It's like, it's time for them to
go. And you start bringing in

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new people. And new, a new
class. But I think this if I had

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to say it, this was a warning.
This was a this was a shout out

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and I'm gonna lay out my case.
So I guess we can get into a lot

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of people may say who is and
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we're intimate, intimately
familiar with him in his demise.

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But this is a whole new level.
Alright, let's check it out.

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And I sincerely believe that
what is going to deliver us to

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victory in November is the fact
that they are everyday hard

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working people in this state
will dilute

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the man did he get Joe Biden's
mic guy because that's all

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talking from inside a bucket
that they

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deserve a voice and our
government to and we're going to

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give it to them

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muscle a believer and science.
We're going to have a government

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approval work to ensure that the
air that we breathe is clean

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that the water that we drink is
non contaminated, in addition to

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being the mayor of Tallahassee,
Florida, the capital city of our

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nation's third largest state.
I'm also a father and along with

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my wife, RJ we are raising two
year old twins Jackson and

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Caroline. You cannot

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sit back and complain and moan
and groan. You gotta get

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involved in the political
process. You got to work with

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Andrew to try Let's form that
state.

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so this was from the Washington
Post it put this together. No,

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well, okay. So this just lets
you know that they were there is

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basically a campaign ad. Yeah.
This is when he was running in

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Florida. So in Bernie

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support that was pretty big.

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I'll let you beat me to the
punch. Sorry. Yeah. No. Because

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it's like, yeah. So was this
kind of like he was he a Bernie

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guy? No. Because he was green
New Deal he made. Of course, he

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was progressive. But yeah, I
just find it I find it

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interesting because this guy
was, in some ways better than

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Obama. Well, he was he was
groomed from early on when you

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look at his Wikipedia page, to
be the governor and a

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presidential candidate.

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Yeah, should actually look that
up. I mean, talking about but

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yeah, he had some bags. He had
some bad skeletons in the

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closet, though. I

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mean, oh, we're gonna get to
that, but no different than

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other candidates have had. But
that No,

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except Obama, they somehow they
really did kill people. Let's

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well shut up. I'm gonna kill
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This is true. So while you look
up his wiki and get to the parts

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who was who was Andrew Gillum

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46% of the people in Florida
today said that they cannot make

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ends meet at the end of the
month. They're working many of

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them harder than ever, and can't
pull down a wage where they can

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take care of themselves in their
families, right. I know what it

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was like to watch my mother and
my father trade between which

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bills they could pay before
something got cut off, praying

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to God without a way forward
that next week, something might

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show up, that will allow them to
pay enough on the lights so that

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they wouldn't get cut off. That
experience informs my politics.

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I'm fighting for things like
when Congress has this slush

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fund for sexual harassment
settlements. I blow the whistle

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on that stuff. So I'm not always
the most popular guy in DC. But

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I did have support from from
someone in Washington. If you

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walk down Pennsylvania Avenue,
he lives in the White House with

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the pillars in front of you.

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On behalf of all of you and on
behalf of all of the people of

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the state of Florida. We accept
this nomination and look forward

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to November 6, when I'm elected
the next Governor of the great

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state of Florida. God bless you.
That's been good, huh?

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Huh. I heard you ringabel.

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Yeah, I heard I had a help from
someone in the White House from

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Obama. That's why I was ringing
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That was I know that was
DeSantis talking.

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Oh, crap. I could he was

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saying he used that as a he used
that as a right as a linking him

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to Trump. Yes, of course. Of
course not. He but Washington

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Post, right, Tim to Trump. And
if he went Florida, he's

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definitely 2020 for his
candidate. This is a big deal.

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This is why I'm telling you.

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And again, this went completely
under the radar not and that may

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have been different from the
sources you're reading, but in

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general, like no agenda level,
the only it only that, which

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means m five M that's what we
tried. And it really only

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bubbled up once there was one,
one article one headline and

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maybe Roe v. Wade happened right
after it. I'm sure it was very

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close. And when I saw it, I'm
like, Oh, this is going under

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the radar. There's a couple of
things that are happening. And

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it's all being covered up or at
least not covered because of the

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outrage of Roe v. Wade.

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Kind of like COVID Yes. COVID
space.

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Yeah. We know the COVID face.
Yes, exactly. Exactly.

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Reason why I saw this guy's man
Teflon. Because even what

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happened we'll get later you're
seeing those skeleton T's you

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refer to right? He had the I
mean, that was a feature. Just

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to foreshadow a little bit to to
the party that you know, we'll

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be voting for him. Yeah. And so
always, I was why now, why? Why

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does DOJ Yeah. Where's where's
the protection? Because like you

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said, you saw how the media ran
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three letter agencies ran
interference for Obama. Yeah.

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Oh, yeah. He's, he was crowned
to be the next Obama. Um, but

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actually says he could carry
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to the way the way I saw it was
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had this big hotel room scandal
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his chances. That's the that's
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you would expect. And so maybe
it was Republicans but even that

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could have come from inside. I
don't know, it could have

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worked.

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And I'm here to tell you guys
All goes right now. So

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I'm so sorry.

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You in that time travel,

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I can't help it.

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I know, I know. Oh, well we need
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Obama even came out and stopped
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in that election against the
Santa Fe. So let's get into

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from justice and opportunity
hope spreads. Amen starts

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rippling

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it enters into each of us.

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Can you stocks? Of course, I
need your audio ears, okay to

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listen to how and I don't
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how they let Obama talk. And
then it had this dead space. So

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his words could be resonate like
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Well, there's what I it's
interesting. You say that I

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heard a noise gate kick in
immediately. I'm like, oh,

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shouldn't is that my noise gate?
Do I have a noise gate on this

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thing? I was I was blaming
myself. So yes, that was noise

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gated.

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What the fact that this was done
post that may MSNBC put those

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gaps in there? It may have

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been okay. So I would love to
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it's available somewhere.

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I don't know. I'll listen to the
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Okay. And the source, there was
no gap there that was put in

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there. Not pregnant like that
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Well, they did a shitty job
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taken a sample of the crowd or
something that you can insert

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there instead of just dead
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It's zero dB.

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It sounds unnatural. That's what
piqued my interest. Yeah. So I

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just want to let let people know
the spells. We got to get back

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on that kid. Yeah, this is how
the spills work with the

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mainstream media. And I just
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Yeah, and we've seen this with
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the famous example there was a
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This is where he was like, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

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no, no, no, no, no, hey, hey,
hey, you know, but that way,

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that was the it went on for like
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President Obama, you know, dealt
with a heckler today, where he

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really lost against that
heckler, you know, so the media

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has covered up for Obama in many
ways, but this is a new one. I

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agree. This is it. This is a new
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And the words that like Kevin,
Sam use, you can't make this

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issue up. Number five, use the
backside of the clip. Okay, I'll

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start it over at the beginning.

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From justice, an opportunity
that hope spreads, it starts

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rippling.

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It enters into each of us. We
get a sense of what is possible.

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And we remind ourselves of those
better angels of our nature.

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See, it's up to you. Let's make
history happen right here.

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So positive is jarring. And it
was the Obama show in Miami

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today. No Democrat does it quite
like the 44th president. He was

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stumping for Bill Nelson and
Andrew Gilliam, who's now ahead

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of his Republican opponent in
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three points in the polling
average. But if you were

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watching that rally this
afternoon, you probably noticed

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the regular interruptions by
protesters. Instead of using

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that classic Trump rhetoric. I'd
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Here's how Obama handled it.

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This is what I look forward to
is having a few hecklers to get

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me back in the mood. Enjoy, you
always gotta have a few. In

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order to know that you're on the
campaign trail. It tells you

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something interesting.

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Even the folks who are in charge
are still mad because they're

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getting ginned up to be mad.
That's, that's the man's that's

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the mindset. So you want
somebody who's actually going to

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work for working people? Andrew
Gillum somebody

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Oh, isn't that interesting? Did
they cover up the heckler there

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as well? I mean, they certainly
didn't.

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He brought the heckler game

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thing and you are quiet about
it. That's I liked I liked that

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about you more. You're able to
not not spoil a good one.

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Oh, I think Obama brought the
heck

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William. Oh, shoot man Dvorak
and I have have have thought

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about this as well. It makes
total ready

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you get me?

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Going? Yeah. Excellent.
Excellent observation. Too

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funny.

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I guess we'll get number six.

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First of all, I watched all of
ofers events. Yesterday, I

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watched all the Oprah has become
Obama and Obama has become

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Oprah. But they are really
undeterred by Trump's negative.

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They are embodying Michelle
Obama's and they go low, we go

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high. But they the difference
between 16 and 18 seems to be

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they want that to translate to
big victories.

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Well, Oprah yesterday, just
really blew my mind and how she

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was so inspirational. And she
was urging everyone to be part

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of something that's bigger than
themselves. It's bigger than

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their day to day sacrifice,
sacrifice that's about our

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ancestors sacrifice about their
ancestors sacrifice. And that's

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something you just never see in
Donald Trump's rhetoric. It's

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not ever about serving or it's
always about him. Exactly. So I

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think that's why it's refreshing
to hear a message that's about

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what you can do for other people
what you can do for your country

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and make yourself better than
Process Two.

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The other thing that's
remarkable about Obama seeing

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sort of each party's best
surrogates on the stump is, if

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you've won twice, like Obama
has. You're really good at this.

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And you are made better by the
hecklers. I mean, I watched his

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speech and his whole vibe
changed after he got home. He's

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you want to fight? I gotta. I
gotta fight. I've still got

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fighting

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me. Yeah, I think you're right.
Mo. You nailed it. Rent a

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heckler.

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It's the glass of water. Yeah.
You know, I'm a firm believer

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that beer gate was staged. Oh,
yeah. firm believer that.

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Because he just happened to be
Henry Louis Gates. All people of

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all of all people. But yeah, so
you heard Obama was in rare form

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coming out for his guy. Give him
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imagine it's like one of those
911 questions like when 911 ever

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happened? What if this vote goes
away? Or Florida?

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Do you think that Gillum
actually could have won Florida?

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Do you think he had that shot? I
mean, it was pretty close. If I

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recall, during the leader with

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the machines, yeah. But that
we'll get to that maybe a little

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later. All right. It wasn't
definitely a test run going on.

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But I digress. But let's go and
get into number seven.

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He would always talk about how
to be a game night player. Yeah,

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he the way he waits for the
lights to go on for him to

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really step into his game. And
in this case, it was the

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hecklers and such. He said so
dissonant his his tone, his

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energy versus what we're seeing
from the current president,

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which he's President Trump is
all about grievance and anger.

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And Trump in Obama is much more
about hope and trying to uplift

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the people he's talking to. Now
the Senate Democrats would be

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this not running again. Oprah
Winfrey, at least not now is not

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a candidate. They don't seem to
have a current political figure

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who perhaps who could run for
office run for president a

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couple of years who possesses
that type of Christian charisma

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and energy that we just saw
there.

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He you laughed out loud during
everything. I could talk about

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that?

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Well, no, I just it again, I
haven't. It's normally

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aberration from what we're
seeing from this president. But

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it's also not representative of
what we're seeing on the stump

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from Democrats. It's a really
different tone. I mean, you

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know, Avinash, he's not giving
that speech. He's saying not

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only will I lock up Trump, I'll
bring my own handcuffs, right.

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So we are seeing on the left,
you know, Eric Holder, when they

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go low, we'll kick them Hillary,
we can't be civil. There is an

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energy on the left for we're
sick of this unity crap. We're

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sick of the hope and change. We
want blood.

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But the brightest stars in the
cycle are Gillum, who I think

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has embodied a lot of Obama's
Beto and Stacey Abrams. So I

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don't I wouldn't put Abinadi in
the front runner category.

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It's amazing how my head is in
the middle of all this stuff and

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how quickly you forget. Right? I
mean, and of course it comes

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rushing back, just hearing these
clips. But if he was the golden

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child, totally.

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He was the guy. And you can hear
oh, he brings the positivity but

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Abinadi so you mentioned
Avanade. Yes, it was the same

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thing brought him up. Let's do
some parallels here. Because you

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said something about Obama. I
was gonna put it in the show.

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There may be something more for
last tapes. But Larry Sinclair,

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yes. That would be the
equivalent to stormy Daniels.

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Yeah, so yes, you're right.
Right,

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even with having weird lawyers.
See that lawyer for Larry

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Sinclair was a piece of work. He
actually wore a kilt. Oh, my

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goodness. It's been so long ago.
Yeah, you're right. You're

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right.

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So how they amplified? Stormy
Daniels? Yeah, because most

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people don't even know what I'm
talking about when I say Larry

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Sinclair, unless you're in deep,

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yes. Well, I'm going to put
Larry Sinclair in the show notes

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for everybody. Okay, so check
him out.

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He made some explosive claims
about drugs. And he had,

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he had, he had literal receipts.

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And this makes me wonder, well,
we'll get there. So you heard

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they were all in for Gillum. The
whole Democratic Party was in

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their in their in their form.
What happened? Now, that's what

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we need to figure out. But

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well, what happened is Joe Biden
happened. I'd say that, you

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know, that would be the number
one thing. But and we say

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this because I can't I don't
want to make sure I'm not being

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double minded, it may be the
best word. This is our turn.

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Obama. Three p three P

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this one this Joe Biden a term?
Yes.

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So this is universal Obama's
DOJ. Right? That this guy. Okay.

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All right. I don't know if it's
still goggles or not. But so

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what I'm feeling now is Obama
has someone in mind, and we've

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got to clear everybody out of
the way who might interrupt that

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flow. Exactly. Big Mike for
president, everybody

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could beat me maybe. Because
that would give him four and

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five. And now what now? We're
talking FDR territory. Yeah. Or,

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or his papa Poppy, who had a
nice little run there as well.

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Sure did. I think those flags
are still have flags for him.

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Um, let's see. So this is kind
of seeped out during that

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election. And I think it's in
2018 when they have their

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governorates down there. So
let's go ahead and get into this

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revelation about Gillum. Number
eight,

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on the FBI investigation, I and
nor is the City of Tallahassee

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under FBI investigation, we have
been completely cooperative in

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their process. We've made every
public record that we have

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available to the public on a
searchable website. And what

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we've said is that if anyone has
done anything illegal, or

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untoward that they ought to be
held fully accountable for it.

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Contrast that to how DeSantis
and Trump have dealt with the

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FBI, they've undermined them
even going so far as to suggest

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a deep state. Now, my point is,
is that I've served for 15 years

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not by doing well, but by doing
right, I do have friends that

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have been a member of the lobby
court and they were friends

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before they were ever members of
the lobby court. But that in no

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way such as it should suggest
that I would do anything illegal

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or inappropriate. My integrity
is intact and is always been in

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tech and I get the criticisms
from my opponents. But I want

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people to measure me and value
me by what I've done

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a new poll out just this
afternoon from Public Policy

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Polling shows Gillum has a four
point lead over Republican Ron

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DeSantis.

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I remember it. I remember it
now. Four

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point lead points. Yeah. Now we
got no great add on occur,

449
00:28:45,150 --> 00:28:50,970
because we know the posters.
Definitely had a tilt tune.

450
00:28:51,060 --> 00:28:55,710
Yeah. But he was under
investigation doing the race.

451
00:28:56,070 --> 00:29:00,090
We're not what he was. Not say
under investigation, but it was

452
00:29:00,090 --> 00:29:05,730
some loose threads hanging out
there. And if you go to his

453
00:29:05,730 --> 00:29:09,420
Wikipedia page, and this is not
dude, getting down on Gillum.

454
00:29:09,420 --> 00:29:16,350
This is to say he's had
protection before why now? Why

455
00:29:16,350 --> 00:29:19,590
get thrown up under the bus like
that when we only had to have

456
00:29:19,590 --> 00:29:21,180
that prosecute that case? Was
he?

457
00:29:21,750 --> 00:29:25,830
Was he making any noise? Was
there heat on him about maybe

458
00:29:25,830 --> 00:29:29,640
running for 2024? Was there
anything that you picked up?

459
00:29:30,690 --> 00:29:36,630
Ah, let's listen to number nine
and then we can get maybe the

460
00:29:36,630 --> 00:29:37,440
answer your question.

461
00:29:37,620 --> 00:29:42,810
You know, I remember in 2018
when we had the recount, and we

462
00:29:42,810 --> 00:29:45,900
were down there in Broward
County, and every single vote

463
00:29:45,900 --> 00:29:48,570
truck that was coming in seals
were broken on the back. It

464
00:29:48,570 --> 00:29:52,740
really was a primer for what
they did in 2020 in 2018 in

465
00:29:52,740 --> 00:29:57,720
Florida with the gubernatorial
election, and early on in 2017.

466
00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:02,400
Now it's late 2017 early 28 When
I reported that Andrew Gilliam

467
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:07,680
was having gay, drug fueled
orgies, I reported that he was

468
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:09,810
involved with these lobbyists
when he was mayor of

469
00:30:09,810 --> 00:30:12,930
Tallahassee, getting them
sweetheart deals. And when you

470
00:30:12,930 --> 00:30:16,440
look at the indictment that came
out yesterday, 19 counts of wire

471
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:20,250
fraud, and then lying to the
FBI, some of the key players

472
00:30:20,250 --> 00:30:23,880
involved in that, that are that
remain unnamed. But you can tell

473
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:27,150
by the transactions and the
monies that went through are the

474
00:30:27,150 --> 00:30:29,850
same exact people I was talking
about. And they said, Jake, you

475
00:30:29,850 --> 00:30:32,220
can't talk about his sexuality.
It doesn't matter. And I said,

476
00:30:32,220 --> 00:30:35,070
No, it's not about his
sexuality. It's about being

477
00:30:35,070 --> 00:30:38,160
compromised. Because if you got
elected governor, and he was

478
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,920
doing this kind of stuff that he
was doing in his private life

479
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,830
now, three years later, when we
expose them in the hotel room,

480
00:30:43,980 --> 00:30:48,330
passed out covered vomit, after
the orgy. What what would have

481
00:30:48,330 --> 00:30:50,460
happened in our state? Alex,
what would have happened in

482
00:30:50,460 --> 00:30:52,800
Florida? What kind of crooked
developer what kind of crooked

483
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:56,370
globalist what kind of crooked
Soros scheme was going to be

484
00:30:56,370 --> 00:30:58,590
pushed through because they had
the goods on him?

485
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,440
Yeah, it was pretty pretty much
compromised.

486
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:06,480
So this is Jacob Engels. And
he's the one that he's just for

487
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:11,160
full transparency. He is a
conservative leaning reporter.

488
00:31:12,510 --> 00:31:19,470
But he also is gay. So you have
to kind of throw that out the

489
00:31:19,470 --> 00:31:23,820
window. Right? He was saying
like that the the binary of the

490
00:31:24,090 --> 00:31:28,230
heterosexual gets homosexual,
they're both gay. So they know

491
00:31:28,260 --> 00:31:32,160
that that's the thing. He didn't
expose him because he's gay. I'm

492
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:36,330
sure he exposed him for
political gain. Sure. But he

493
00:31:36,330 --> 00:31:41,460
makes some claims that 2018 in
Florida was a test run for what

494
00:31:41,460 --> 00:31:46,320
happened in 2020. With
elections? Could that be that's

495
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:50,040
why I wanted to play that clip.
Could that be the loose thread

496
00:31:50,370 --> 00:31:51,690
that give them presents?

497
00:31:52,649 --> 00:31:56,699
Possibly. This is all I know,
you're going somewhere with

498
00:31:56,699 --> 00:32:00,299
this. So I'm a little lost right
now. I've got I mean, there's 20

499
00:32:00,299 --> 00:32:00,839
Different me

500
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:04,980
where you're at, or me because
I've laid out a lot here. So I'm

501
00:32:04,980 --> 00:32:05,370
still

502
00:32:05,370 --> 00:32:14,430
at, okay, at the bases with this
third term Obama agree. And he's

503
00:32:14,430 --> 00:32:17,580
looking for a fourth and he had
a it's the same thing. He has

504
00:32:17,580 --> 00:32:19,920
someone in mind, and it
certainly isn't Andrew Gillum.

505
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:25,620
Right, because the things like
like the things that he's been

506
00:32:26,490 --> 00:32:30,930
identified as, quote, unquote,
negatives, him coming in or

507
00:32:30,930 --> 00:32:35,400
saying Being out as a, quote,
unquote, gay man, that's a

508
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:36,540
positive to his

509
00:32:36,570 --> 00:32:40,530
party was that but that wasn't
known was it? It was on the DL.

510
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:42,060
He has a he has a wife and kids.

511
00:32:42,570 --> 00:32:45,750
Right? He does have a wife and
kids and that that's one of the

512
00:32:45,750 --> 00:32:47,370
things that could be a negative,
but

513
00:32:48,330 --> 00:32:49,740
just for his wife, certainly.

514
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:52,230
Well, we'll get

515
00:32:52,830 --> 00:32:55,320
Oh, boy. All right. We'll get
there.

516
00:32:56,310 --> 00:33:01,740
Now what is this day, I'm trying
to I'm trying to wrap my head

517
00:33:01,740 --> 00:33:06,330
around. This department of
justice hasn't done anything to

518
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:10,350
any politician. Now, all of a
sudden, you get the guy I think

519
00:33:10,350 --> 00:33:13,800
they got him on. They was
investigating one time but for

520
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:19,410
Hamilton tickets. He's had a
sketchy past. I'm not gonna say

521
00:33:19,410 --> 00:33:21,480
that whatever. It's like you
have a corrosion and misuse

522
00:33:21,510 --> 00:33:26,520
investigation station and wiki.
There's some smoke there. But

523
00:33:26,550 --> 00:33:33,030
but not that can't be covered up
by a party that looks at you. As

524
00:33:33,030 --> 00:33:34,320
a Oh, no,

525
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:36,960
of course the party could be way
more contender. Yeah, the party

526
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:38,760
could do all kinds of stuff for
him. Of course.

527
00:33:40,500 --> 00:33:48,180
This looks like an inside job.
Yes. Or, or is it that the FBI

528
00:33:48,210 --> 00:33:52,680
is fragmented? And this is a
rogue Red Seal?

529
00:33:53,790 --> 00:33:57,000
I don't see much evidence of
that. I mean, you see how

530
00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:00,180
they're embarrassing these Trump
people and arresting him at

531
00:34:00,180 --> 00:34:03,870
airports throwing him and leg
irons and shit. I mean, so it's

532
00:34:03,870 --> 00:34:06,600
a pretty radical FBI, but I
don't see him doing much good

533
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:07,410
for the reds.

534
00:34:08,070 --> 00:34:12,720
The way I see this going down is
Hey, Andrew, if it's blue

535
00:34:12,720 --> 00:34:15,840
helping blue is like hey,
Andrew, you might stopping by

536
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:20,640
the office. We need to talk to
you for a little bit, you know,

537
00:34:20,670 --> 00:34:21,930
come in the back door.

538
00:34:25,770 --> 00:34:26,520
Mr. Gillam

539
00:34:27,030 --> 00:34:31,290
is not headlines. It's not
hitting this, this is not the

540
00:34:31,290 --> 00:34:36,840
way it goes. So we gotta put
2020 out there, the walking is

541
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:40,260
the wind down election. He may
have some inside knowledge to

542
00:34:40,260 --> 00:34:45,660
that. Um, and maybe that's why
they, you know, sought to clean

543
00:34:45,660 --> 00:34:49,020
him up. But let's get into part
two of Jacob Engels.

544
00:34:49,410 --> 00:34:54,180
I think Alex they saw him as a
future political commodity, but

545
00:34:54,180 --> 00:34:57,900
they saw him as a little bit of
a free spirit. So I think what

546
00:34:57,900 --> 00:35:01,890
happened there, he hires the
mail. score. A couple of other

547
00:35:01,890 --> 00:35:04,260
people are in the room. And
they're doing these really

548
00:35:04,260 --> 00:35:08,010
extreme things. And remember in
the police report, they didn't

549
00:35:08,010 --> 00:35:10,800
release the police body cam
footage. But in the police

550
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:14,760
report when the police entered
the room, he was so incoherent

551
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:18,240
he could barely stand he was
falling over. He couldn't speak

552
00:35:18,240 --> 00:35:21,120
he couldn't even give a
statement. So I think something

553
00:35:21,150 --> 00:35:24,480
something is afoot there where
maybe he went off the leash a

554
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:25,260
little bit and they had

555
00:35:25,830 --> 00:35:28,290
they may have forced drugged him
too. I mean, he may be the

556
00:35:28,290 --> 00:35:30,630
victim. I'm I'm not sure. I
mean, this, this looks really

557
00:35:30,630 --> 00:35:30,990
bad.

558
00:35:32,070 --> 00:35:35,310
Yeah, and that's that's a
potential thing too. Because

559
00:35:36,060 --> 00:35:36,990
just seeing that the third

560
00:35:36,990 --> 00:35:40,140
point is this is how they get
back to defibrillator. Exactly.

561
00:35:40,140 --> 00:35:42,180
This is how they compromise
people. Talk about the

562
00:35:42,180 --> 00:35:44,880
defibrillator professional know
what that is, that's the paddles

563
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,430
they use or restart your heart.
Who the hell has that?

564
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:52,230
Well, interestingly enough, the
male escort that was with Gillum

565
00:35:52,230 --> 00:35:56,490
happened to be a emergency room
nurse who brought his whole kit

566
00:35:56,490 --> 00:36:01,200
with him. So very powerful drugs
that are not on the street. So

567
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,240
they were loose to me
speculatively, like they were

568
00:36:03,240 --> 00:36:05,400
really good right to drug him
out of his mind to compromise

569
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:07,950
him. And in case that happened,
they had a defibrillator there,

570
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:11,220
this, who should be indicted, my
view is the people that brought

571
00:36:11,220 --> 00:36:12,600
defibrillators and all these
drugs.

572
00:36:13,950 --> 00:36:17,670
Well, and let's get even more
into this. Why hasn't the body

573
00:36:17,670 --> 00:36:20,370
cam footage been released? Where
we would see the faces of the

574
00:36:20,370 --> 00:36:23,340
other men in the room? We know
there was the male prostitute

575
00:36:23,370 --> 00:36:26,130
but we don't know the other two
individuals in the room. Why is

576
00:36:26,130 --> 00:36:27,870
that? Why can't that footage be
released?

577
00:36:28,290 --> 00:36:35,730
It's very dark down this rabbit
hole Mo. Okay, new perspective.

578
00:36:35,730 --> 00:36:39,270
I didn't know any of this. This
is good. I like it. Okay, so we

579
00:36:39,270 --> 00:36:43,440
could have spy versus spy. So
maybe this was a hit job by the

580
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:50,550
reds. Or someone to compromise
him?

581
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:52,770
Or nasty?

582
00:36:53,310 --> 00:36:57,750
Or or or or if we look yes, it
is. If you look at you know how

583
00:36:57,750 --> 00:37:02,250
I Obama was run. I'm pretty
convinced he was compromised

584
00:37:02,250 --> 00:37:05,220
from the get go and they've
always controlled him with that.

585
00:37:07,110 --> 00:37:12,300
Correct. But for people in that
room who was the other two

586
00:37:12,300 --> 00:37:14,910
people in the room? Because I
want to what are accounted for

587
00:37:14,910 --> 00:37:15,570
is Gillum.

588
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:20,340
Where's my where's my 60 Minutes
interview with any of these

589
00:37:20,340 --> 00:37:20,790
people?

590
00:37:20,910 --> 00:37:23,070
Where was Hunter Biden that
night?

591
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:24,270
No.

592
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:33,030
Boy, you're a drunk party. Well,
Hunter is not a party at all.

593
00:37:35,550 --> 00:37:40,650
Okay, now I'm just saying like,
who was the body cam?

594
00:37:41,070 --> 00:37:42,660
Here's the hunter right now.

595
00:37:42,690 --> 00:37:49,290
I'm on black man, you idiot
area. Yeah. So let's see here.

596
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:55,470
We got a drug food fuel party.
For people body cam footage gets

597
00:37:55,470 --> 00:38:00,450
totally Epstein. And um, we
don't know who else is in that

598
00:38:00,450 --> 00:38:04,350
room. If I tell you this, this
is a hell of a story. This is

599
00:38:04,350 --> 00:38:08,490
the one I want to talk about.
Because it's got so many moving

600
00:38:08,490 --> 00:38:11,130
pieces to it. So I love it.
Let's go back. Let's go back to

601
00:38:11,130 --> 00:38:15,660
the CBS Miami report of this
event that happened in that room

602
00:38:15,660 --> 00:38:16,830
that night. What's falling

603
00:38:16,830 --> 00:38:19,350
breaking news now out of Miami
Beach where former gubernatorial

604
00:38:19,350 --> 00:38:22,830
candidate Andrew Gillum was
involved in an incident possibly

605
00:38:22,830 --> 00:38:26,340
involving crystal meth in Miami
Beach overnight. According to

606
00:38:26,340 --> 00:38:30,090
Miami Beach incident report, he
was inside of a hotel room at a

607
00:38:30,090 --> 00:38:33,690
building on 1100 West Avenue
where a man was treated for a

608
00:38:33,690 --> 00:38:37,170
possible drug overdose. The man
was transported to the hospital.

609
00:38:37,470 --> 00:38:40,380
Another man was able to tell
police what happened but when

610
00:38:40,380 --> 00:38:43,920
officers went to speak to Mr.
Gillam. They say he was unable

611
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:47,640
to communicate because he was so
inebriated. Officers report

612
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:51,270
finding three small clear
plastic baggies containing

613
00:38:51,270 --> 00:38:54,630
suspected crystal meth on the
bed on the floor of the hotel

614
00:38:54,630 --> 00:38:57,540
room. Police Report, give them
left the hotel room and returned

615
00:38:57,540 --> 00:39:00,960
home without incident. There
have been no arrests and Gillum

616
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:04,290
just released a statement it
reads in part, I was in Miami

617
00:39:04,290 --> 00:39:06,750
last night for a wedding
celebration. When first

618
00:39:06,750 --> 00:39:09,930
responders were called to assist
one of my friends all that had

619
00:39:09,930 --> 00:39:12,810
too much to drink. I want to be
clear that I have never used

620
00:39:12,810 --> 00:39:16,650
methamphetamines. I apologize to
the people of Florida for the

621
00:39:16,650 --> 00:39:20,010
distraction This has caused our
movement. He went on to say he

622
00:39:20,010 --> 00:39:22,950
is going to spend the next few
weeks with his family and

623
00:39:22,950 --> 00:39:25,350
appreciates the privacy at this
time.

624
00:39:28,830 --> 00:39:29,970
poor sucker.

625
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:34,740
Alex may have a point he may be
the

626
00:39:34,740 --> 00:39:38,670
victim. Yeah. When I heard that,
I was like, Okay, I didn't

627
00:39:38,670 --> 00:39:39,660
really consider that.

628
00:39:40,170 --> 00:39:45,510
But they say the cops talk to a
third person. Yeah, who was that

629
00:39:45,510 --> 00:39:49,410
third person? And for the life
of me, I can never find out who

630
00:39:49,410 --> 00:39:50,850
the people in this room

631
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:54,090
like I'd like I like your Hunter
Biden theory. I think Hunter

632
00:39:54,090 --> 00:39:57,390
Biden and Malia Obama I mean,
it's obvious. They're the drug

633
00:39:57,390 --> 00:39:57,900
no party

634
00:39:57,900 --> 00:40:02,460
like a party. That's right. But
me, of course is crystal meth.

635
00:40:02,460 --> 00:40:05,490
So that's not hunters thing. No,

636
00:40:05,490 --> 00:40:09,330
I think he everything his thing.
I think he's okay with that.

637
00:40:09,420 --> 00:40:13,170
But what we're laughing about
this, but then he just gets the

638
00:40:13,170 --> 00:40:19,440
walk away. I mean, we found meth
on the bed. And Andrew Gillum

639
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:25,350
gets the walk away with now he's
being re reeled in arraigned in

640
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:28,920
our some maybe bookkeeping.

641
00:40:29,910 --> 00:40:32,490
I'll be honest with you, I don't
even know exactly what i Yeah,

642
00:40:32,490 --> 00:40:35,940
wire fraud charges, but that can
be all kinds of stuff. So I'm

643
00:40:35,940 --> 00:40:40,050
not even sure exactly what he
did. So what happened was I,

644
00:40:40,140 --> 00:40:43,410
here's here's how it read my
impression, okay, because I did

645
00:40:43,410 --> 00:40:47,760
mention the story and didn't
dive into it. The impression I

646
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:51,060
got was he had tried to raise
funds from somebody under false

647
00:40:51,060 --> 00:40:55,620
pretense, and that was that can
be considered wire fraud. Yeah,

648
00:40:55,650 --> 00:40:58,290
that we're basically have like a
shell company, that we're

649
00:40:58,290 --> 00:41:01,110
raising money and then his
partner, which we won't get to

650
00:41:01,110 --> 00:41:04,380
later. We're gonna get, we're
gonna get to the partner, but

651
00:41:04,710 --> 00:41:09,540
this is the killer right now.
She was wiring the money to him

652
00:41:09,540 --> 00:41:12,960
from the fund. And that's why
you get the wire? Yeah, of

653
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:16,830
course. Yes, of course. And what
the what was the most

654
00:41:16,860 --> 00:41:21,840
interesting charge to me, was
lying to the FBI. It's like,

655
00:41:21,870 --> 00:41:26,490
they don't have to put that on
there. This is Joe Biden slash

656
00:41:27,210 --> 00:41:30,750
Obama's FBI. Right. Why to lie
into the air? Because that's

657
00:41:30,750 --> 00:41:33,510
like, that's the automatic
guilty when they hit you with

658
00:41:33,510 --> 00:41:38,580
that? Yeah. Because they pretty
much had Have you did the right

659
00:41:38,580 --> 00:41:41,130
when they thought that charge on
you. You can beat all the rest

660
00:41:41,130 --> 00:41:43,890
of them. But that lie to the
FBI. Now it gets you every

661
00:41:43,890 --> 00:41:47,490
chance. They won't. We've seen
get people over and over and

662
00:41:47,490 --> 00:41:51,870
over again. Yeah. So but he gets
to walk away from a meth party.

663
00:41:53,220 --> 00:41:58,080
But you get brought in for
moving money around? Yeah. Which

664
00:41:58,260 --> 00:41:59,670
is very common in politics.

665
00:41:59,700 --> 00:42:02,220
Yeah. And that could have been
the staying or I mean, there's

666
00:42:02,250 --> 00:42:07,680
all kinds of that seems like a
much more sophisticated way of

667
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:08,850
just taking a guy down.

668
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:14,010
And going back. Let's go back to
what I mentioned before, the

669
00:42:14,010 --> 00:42:19,950
headlines. Clyburn, showers,
family members with over 200k in

670
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:24,180
campaign funds, right. Maxine
Maxine water pays daughter

671
00:42:24,180 --> 00:42:26,550
another 24k in campaign K.

672
00:42:26,580 --> 00:42:30,240
Now they could have easily added
Pelosi, which she's done with

673
00:42:30,240 --> 00:42:34,740
her husband and her son,
certainly in Ukraine, but she's

674
00:42:34,740 --> 00:42:36,180
missing a key feature.

675
00:42:36,720 --> 00:42:42,120
It's amazing how they I mean,
her husband is allegedly driving

676
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:46,440
around drunk. Yeah, and this is
like, oh, no, no charges. No,

677
00:42:46,470 --> 00:42:51,750
but we starting to see these
headlines that all this like

678
00:42:51,750 --> 00:42:53,250
that's what starts the rabbit
hole.

679
00:42:53,580 --> 00:42:58,650
And I will say that is an
albatross around. Nancy Pelosi,

680
00:42:58,650 --> 00:43:01,200
his neck this there are people
not letting this go?

681
00:43:03,150 --> 00:43:09,450
No, but he still did it because
I say so. And then the cops he's

682
00:43:09,450 --> 00:43:12,810
dropped the charges. i Oh, no.
Yeah. And it's expected. That's

683
00:43:12,810 --> 00:43:15,450
the crazy thing about this
expected for it to be done that

684
00:43:15,450 --> 00:43:17,400
way. It's like, oh, yeah, he'd
be out. As

685
00:43:17,879 --> 00:43:21,149
everyone said, it is not going
to be a problem. No mug shot, no

686
00:43:21,149 --> 00:43:21,629
nothing.

687
00:43:22,740 --> 00:43:26,250
And so I'm asking once again,
why is Gillum being treated the

688
00:43:26,250 --> 00:43:29,640
way he was treated? So let's get
more into the details of that

689
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:30,900
night with number 12.

690
00:43:31,140 --> 00:43:33,660
We're getting our first look at
evidence from the overdose

691
00:43:33,660 --> 00:43:36,900
emergency involving former
gubernatorial candidate Andrew

692
00:43:36,900 --> 00:43:37,350
Gilliam

693
00:43:37,380 --> 00:43:40,260
and we're talking about a very
messy hotel room with drugs

694
00:43:40,260 --> 00:43:42,930
scattered everywhere. Local 10
News reporter Lauren Livingston

695
00:43:42,930 --> 00:43:45,270
is live on South Beach to show
us learn.

696
00:43:47,250 --> 00:43:51,000
So Police tell us back on March
13, Andrew Gillum was so

697
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,850
inebriated when they got here to
the Mondrian, South Beach Hotel

698
00:43:53,850 --> 00:43:56,970
that he could not even speak
with those officers who

699
00:43:56,970 --> 00:44:01,140
responded here. And so now we're
seeing and hearing some of what

700
00:44:01,140 --> 00:44:04,050
those first responders saw and
heard when they made it here to

701
00:44:04,050 --> 00:44:04,950
the hotel that night.

702
00:44:10,110 --> 00:44:14,550
It's around 1am March 13. Miami
Beach police make their way into

703
00:44:14,550 --> 00:44:20,340
the Mondrian South Beach Hotel
and up to the 11th floor. The

704
00:44:20,340 --> 00:44:29,670
first knock goes on answered
seconds later. That's when

705
00:44:29,670 --> 00:44:34,800
things literally get blurry. For
privacy reasons. The audio also

706
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:38,010
goes silent. Police encountered
me and barely dressed if I

707
00:44:39,150 --> 00:44:42,570
stop. Yeah, the camera goes
blurry.

708
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:45,180
Yes. And the audio goes silent.

709
00:44:46,380 --> 00:44:48,930
I just want to point that out to
people. It's amazing how that

710
00:44:48,930 --> 00:44:49,620
can I just check No,

711
00:44:49,620 --> 00:44:51,390
it's a glitch glitch.

712
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:56,880
For privacy reasons. Oh, it was
on answered seconds later.

713
00:45:03,390 --> 00:45:08,130
That's when things literally get
blurry. For privacy reasons. The

714
00:45:08,130 --> 00:45:11,940
audio also goes silent. police
encounter a man barely dressed

715
00:45:11,970 --> 00:45:15,630
if at all. You can make out what
appears to be Miami Beach Fire

716
00:45:15,630 --> 00:45:19,500
Rescue medics moving around the
room. At one point police direct

717
00:45:19,500 --> 00:45:23,220
what appears to be a nude man to
the bathroom. He's questioned

718
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:24,690
and later takes a seat.

719
00:45:26,190 --> 00:45:33,420
Yeah. For a didn't that wasn't a
glitch. For privacy reasons,

720
00:45:33,450 --> 00:45:35,070
privacy reasons,

721
00:45:35,100 --> 00:45:37,350
who are we hiding?

722
00:45:37,590 --> 00:45:41,850
You better have an answer for
that Mo. I'm telling me crazy.

723
00:45:42,240 --> 00:45:47,130
I don't but I'm just saying like
they tells you who could be in

724
00:45:47,130 --> 00:45:50,850
that room to say, hey, we need
that camera off and we need

725
00:45:50,850 --> 00:45:55,380
that. Tell the cops. Yeah.
Somebody who had the power to

726
00:45:55,380 --> 00:46:00,210
tell the cops. Hey, we need that
camera cut off and we need that

727
00:46:00,210 --> 00:46:03,510
microphone turned down. And it
just look over two bags of

728
00:46:03,510 --> 00:46:06,300
crystal meth on the floor.
Alright, and we're gonna let

729
00:46:06,300 --> 00:46:12,330
everybody go home. Huh? Yeah,
I'm

730
00:46:12,330 --> 00:46:15,270
kind of kicking myself that I
never even really thought this

731
00:46:15,270 --> 00:46:17,280
deeply about it at the time.

732
00:46:20,010 --> 00:46:25,470
Which is kind of cool. Well,
okay. It's only a few people.

733
00:46:25,500 --> 00:46:29,460
Well, that was also during the
Obama era. It was it was,

734
00:46:29,550 --> 00:46:33,180
was it not? No, no, this was
Trump. This is Trump Trump era.

735
00:46:34,380 --> 00:46:36,210
So Trump was DOJ

736
00:46:36,390 --> 00:46:39,840
Trump. That's what I'm saying.
Trump's DOJ Trump, right. No

737
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:45,930
charges. All of a sudden
charges. Charges. Well, you've

738
00:46:45,930 --> 00:46:48,930
just been protected before and
where they protect and Gillum

739
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:54,660
obviously not because he was
laid out nude in his own vomit.

740
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:57,330
But we're protecting the other
two people in the room. Yeah,

741
00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:58,890
that's when it goes quiet. Yeah.

742
00:47:00,270 --> 00:47:01,230
I want to know.

743
00:47:02,610 --> 00:47:05,250
Hopefully somebody can help us
out. Let's get the second part.

744
00:47:05,370 --> 00:47:05,970
We need to

745
00:47:05,970 --> 00:47:09,540
know the call came in about a
suspected drug overdose. Andrew

746
00:47:09,540 --> 00:47:13,260
Gillum husband, father and
rising star in the Democratic

747
00:47:13,260 --> 00:47:17,610
Party. The first black nominee
of a major party when he ran for

748
00:47:17,610 --> 00:47:20,880
Florida governor was one of
three men found inside that

749
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:24,810
hotel room. Police say although
my heels came back to the room

750
00:47:24,810 --> 00:47:28,650
where he found Gillum and Travis
Dyson under the influence of an

751
00:47:28,890 --> 00:47:32,820
unknown substance. Gillum, who'd
reportedly been found vomiting

752
00:47:32,820 --> 00:47:36,480
in the bathroom was later
allowed to leave the hotel to go

753
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:40,530
home. Police also released these
photos showing the mess left

754
00:47:40,530 --> 00:47:45,150
behind stained pillowcases and
sheets, pills and bottles of

755
00:47:45,150 --> 00:47:48,780
pills spilled in various places.
Police also removed what they

756
00:47:48,780 --> 00:47:55,440
suspected to be three small bags
of crystal meth. Police say

757
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:57,870
those suspected drugs were
eventually impounded. No

758
00:47:57,870 --> 00:48:00,510
criminal charges were ever filed
and Gilliam claimed he was here

759
00:48:00,510 --> 00:48:05,010
in South Florida for a wedding.
He has since apologized and says

760
00:48:05,010 --> 00:48:08,100
he never has used
methamphetamines. But he did say

761
00:48:08,100 --> 00:48:12,030
that after that unsuccessful bid
for governor he did fall into

762
00:48:12,030 --> 00:48:14,670
depression started abusing
alcohol and he has since entered

763
00:48:14,670 --> 00:48:17,010
into rehab. We reached out to
all three of the men who were

764
00:48:17,010 --> 00:48:20,130
involved in this incident that
night. have not yet heard back.

765
00:48:20,550 --> 00:48:23,070
We're live here in Miami Beach
there Livingston, local 10 News.

766
00:48:23,370 --> 00:48:27,120
Here what I hear in that report
is what I find a little odd is

767
00:48:27,150 --> 00:48:31,350
tons of pills, not mentioned
what it is just thrown about

768
00:48:31,350 --> 00:48:34,560
opens like if you're doing
crystal meth, you're doing

769
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:39,750
crystal meth. I don't think
you're also popping pills and

770
00:48:39,750 --> 00:48:41,760
you're certainly not just
leaving to stop. I don't know. I

771
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:44,460
mean, it sounds like they set up
a nice little scene for the

772
00:48:44,460 --> 00:48:45,930
cameras is what it sounds like.

773
00:48:46,260 --> 00:48:51,690
And at the end of Jacob Engels
clip Alex over spoke him where

774
00:48:51,690 --> 00:48:55,500
he said they had droves you
can't even get on the street,

775
00:48:55,500 --> 00:48:55,890
right?

776
00:48:55,890 --> 00:48:59,700
Which is maybe because that came
from the nurse. Right?

777
00:49:02,250 --> 00:49:05,940
But now I'm gonna tell you
something culturally, and then

778
00:49:05,940 --> 00:49:08,310
we're gonna go down to our sub
rabbit hole just for a minute

779
00:49:08,310 --> 00:49:13,440
here. Um, when he said crystal
meth the first thing and this is

780
00:49:13,500 --> 00:49:17,070
this may be an ignorant take,
but just this is a reflex kind

781
00:49:17,070 --> 00:49:19,980
of thing. I was like black
people don't smoke crystal meth.

782
00:49:20,430 --> 00:49:23,670
Now they do. But that's just the
first thing I was like, Is that

783
00:49:23,670 --> 00:49:25,560
more poor white weird drug of
choice?

784
00:49:25,590 --> 00:49:27,450
Are we poor white people thing?

785
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:30,480
That's like, yeah, that's like
the equivalent to crack. You

786
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:33,600
know, like, that's just showing
me Of course, we were speaking

787
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:37,890
in general general generality,
of course, you know, but that

788
00:49:37,890 --> 00:49:40,110
was kind of that's what also
stuck out to me like he's

789
00:49:40,230 --> 00:49:41,430
partying with math.

790
00:49:43,110 --> 00:49:49,530
Well, I don't know. Is it a gay
thing math. 14.

791
00:49:50,580 --> 00:49:55,290
In the gay male world, we've
seen this really upfront. I've

792
00:49:55,290 --> 00:49:59,970
seen people get become homeless.
I've seen and it's sort of fused

793
00:50:00,750 --> 00:50:04,020
The dopamine hit is fused with
another dopamine hit, which

794
00:50:04,050 --> 00:50:07,050
often forgetting that is the
first time they have sex or the

795
00:50:07,050 --> 00:50:10,170
first time they, they realized
who they are. And a lot of that

796
00:50:10,170 --> 00:50:13,740
is sexual. So you add the sexual
dopamine hit to this

797
00:50:13,740 --> 00:50:19,620
intensification of hit. And the
addiction is extraordinarily

798
00:50:19,620 --> 00:50:24,120
powerful and not very few people
come back and after they've come

799
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:27,960
back, I mean, I have friends
who've also come back, it takes

800
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:32,670
them years to have a sexual
experience, find meaningful or

801
00:50:32,670 --> 00:50:38,070
pleasurable. It's amazing what
this does to people. I'm, I'm

802
00:50:38,070 --> 00:50:43,800
genuinely shocked by it, how it
is destroying it. The way people

803
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:46,920
describe it is it doesn't just
take them It takes their soul

804
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:50,910
somehow, they don't become the
people they become someone else.

805
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:53,580
And I've never seen no one, you

806
00:50:53,580 --> 00:50:57,870
know, I would say that. Yes, I
would say that in speaking with

807
00:50:57,870 --> 00:51:01,500
people after I spoke with Eric
Barrera, I was really my story

808
00:51:01,500 --> 00:51:03,930
was really going to be at first
going to be just about this

809
00:51:03,930 --> 00:51:06,840
enormous supply that they were
the capacity of production and

810
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:08,880
all that. And then he told me
that's when I began to say,

811
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:11,850
well, the capacity production
has allowed Matt to be all over

812
00:51:11,850 --> 00:51:17,640
the country than these symptoms
logically must be in some degree

813
00:51:17,670 --> 00:51:19,740
all over the country as well and
so began to tie in.

814
00:51:23,190 --> 00:51:31,530
So yes, gay sex and math is the
thing is the thing. And this is

815
00:51:31,530 --> 00:51:35,160
the who was speaking was that
Sam Quiznos Quinn nos, I think

816
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:37,920
how you pronounce it, and he
wrote the book, the least of us

817
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:41,850
true tales of America and, and
hope in the time of fitting all

818
00:51:41,850 --> 00:51:46,560
the meth. Fentanyl gets all the
headlines. Yeah. But this

819
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:50,970
industrial quality man, they're
pumping out of Mexico, in

820
00:51:50,970 --> 00:51:56,190
pharmaceutical grade labs. Is
Yeah, I didn't have the clip.

821
00:51:56,190 --> 00:52:00,240
Just you know, just to keep the
show, you know, and a decent

822
00:52:00,240 --> 00:52:04,920
length. But it's a report of the
Superman.

823
00:52:05,670 --> 00:52:06,720
Super myth.

824
00:52:06,780 --> 00:52:14,160
Nice. is so clean that the I'm
not speaking completely from a

825
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:17,070
knowledge standpoint, but this
is how the reports are related.

826
00:52:17,070 --> 00:52:17,370
Yes,

827
00:52:17,370 --> 00:52:19,230
Mexican super meth, I see it
right here

828
00:52:19,290 --> 00:52:24,690
is that the impurities is what
caused mass smokers to stop

829
00:52:24,690 --> 00:52:28,470
smoking. Because they will get
so harsh. The fact that this

830
00:52:28,470 --> 00:52:32,190
meth is so clean, keeps
everybody going. It keeps you

831
00:52:32,190 --> 00:52:37,200
smoking. And that's when you see
these people, one deteriorate

832
00:52:37,290 --> 00:52:42,960
super fast to these zombie light
things on and I'm what I'm

833
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:46,740
saying things. They're no longer
you heard the guys that steals

834
00:52:46,740 --> 00:52:49,620
your soul. So just think about
what Superman does. And you

835
00:52:49,620 --> 00:52:52,860
smoke in high quantities. And
it's so cheap now. Because it's

836
00:52:52,860 --> 00:52:55,530
coming out of Mexico. Right? So
people just keep an eye on that.

837
00:52:55,530 --> 00:52:56,430
Superman.

838
00:52:57,360 --> 00:53:04,320
Yeah, send us some samples.
Please know. I've kept some

839
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:07,020
things in my day, man, but meth
is not one of them.

840
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:13,980
And just as another quick aside,
Adderall is nothing but legal

841
00:53:13,980 --> 00:53:17,940
maths. True. It's true. This be
leaning to the hand in hand with

842
00:53:17,940 --> 00:53:23,940
promiscuous. The I said that
wrong. promiscuity that we're

843
00:53:23,940 --> 00:53:24,780
seeing with

844
00:53:25,350 --> 00:53:29,970
Oh, man. Yes, you know, so I
have actually tried Adderall

845
00:53:29,970 --> 00:53:34,710
just to see what the kids were
doing. And I was like, No, I was

846
00:53:34,710 --> 00:53:38,130
up for a full 24 hours. It's
like, What is this crap? This is

847
00:53:38,130 --> 00:53:42,330
nuts. It's not fun. It's not
good. Now I can understand where

848
00:53:42,330 --> 00:53:45,660
if you use it, you micro dose or
whatever. I can see how someone

849
00:53:45,660 --> 00:53:49,200
could totally get into it. But
yeah, this is just another one

850
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:53,880
to chalk. I mean, Adderall at
the college level. It I mean,

851
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:57,360
it's like Bitcoin. You know,
people are settling it trading

852
00:53:57,360 --> 00:53:59,550
it doing all kinds of stuff.
Hey, you got a prescription?

853
00:53:59,550 --> 00:54:01,620
Yeah, I need some I'll sell it
to you. I sell to you. I mean,

854
00:54:01,620 --> 00:54:04,440
it's crazy how prevalent that
is.

855
00:54:04,799 --> 00:54:07,529
Right. And is that a driver for
my beat? I

856
00:54:07,530 --> 00:54:11,220
hadn't, you know, it's I've
always focused on SSRIs as being

857
00:54:11,220 --> 00:54:13,710
a big problem. Let's just add
this to it. For sure.

858
00:54:13,980 --> 00:54:18,210
Yeah. Because as you see, the
two tie ins have two dopamine

859
00:54:18,210 --> 00:54:21,930
hits between sex. And I know
it's not exclusive to gay men.

860
00:54:22,170 --> 00:54:27,270
So you tie in math and sex in
general? Yeah. And Adderall is

861
00:54:28,170 --> 00:54:31,830
entered at such an early age.
Yeah. Could that be you know,

862
00:54:32,340 --> 00:54:34,470
some of what's going on here,
but I just want to lay it out.

863
00:54:34,470 --> 00:54:34,650
I'm

864
00:54:34,649 --> 00:54:38,969
sure it's not helping. Or it is
it is helping depending on how

865
00:54:38,969 --> 00:54:39,599
you look at it.

866
00:54:39,990 --> 00:54:43,980
Once I realized I was like,
okay, meth meth. I've heard that

867
00:54:43,980 --> 00:54:44,580
before.

868
00:54:45,330 --> 00:54:49,170
Oh, right. Yes, exactly.
injection of meth.

869
00:54:49,650 --> 00:54:52,350
Hi, everybody. Once again, we
are live at the federal

870
00:54:52,350 --> 00:54:54,960
courthouse. This is Wendy birch.
We apologize for any audio

871
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:57,180
difficulties that we had
earlier, but we want to bring

872
00:54:57,180 --> 00:55:01,230
you the very latest that in the
federal trial. gets Ed buck, the

873
00:55:01,230 --> 00:55:04,590
former prominent democratic
contributor. He has now been

874
00:55:04,590 --> 00:55:08,850
found guilty of all nine federal
charges. That verdict coming

875
00:55:08,850 --> 00:55:12,450
down just about 30 minutes ago.
Now, the charges are extensive.

876
00:55:12,450 --> 00:55:16,740
There are at least two counts of
providing methamphetamine to a

877
00:55:16,740 --> 00:55:19,860
victim that resulted in death
for additional counts of

878
00:55:19,860 --> 00:55:23,190
providing methamphetamine, one
count of using his West Los

879
00:55:23,190 --> 00:55:27,000
Angeles Department as a drug use
layer and two counts of paying

880
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:30,030
for interstate travel for the
purpose of prostitution. All of

881
00:55:30,030 --> 00:55:33,000
these are significant charges.
He has been found guilty and all

882
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:36,660
of them, there are maximum
sentencing, it is likely that 66

883
00:55:36,660 --> 00:55:40,080
year old Ed Buck will spend the
rest of his life in a federal

884
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:43,800
prison. Now, this case came to
light a few years back when

885
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:46,830
there were a number of men,
mostly black men that were

886
00:55:46,830 --> 00:55:50,430
overdosing in the presence of Ed
buck and two of those young men

887
00:55:50,490 --> 00:55:54,870
died in his apartment in West
Hollywood, one of them being 26

888
00:55:54,870 --> 00:55:58,260
year old Jim Elmore, the other
one that being 55 year old

889
00:55:58,380 --> 00:55:59,280
Timothy Dean.

890
00:55:59,910 --> 00:56:04,080
Yeah, Ed buck, big Democrat
Party donor, they finally got

891
00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:04,290
him.

892
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:08,700
But did you hear anything about
that? They were finally getting

893
00:56:08,700 --> 00:56:09,120
him.

894
00:56:12,030 --> 00:56:15,990
Well, this, this was much more
of a story than Gillum for sure.

895
00:56:16,950 --> 00:56:19,440
The reason I said we knew they
had arrested him

896
00:56:20,790 --> 00:56:23,610
being found guilty. Yeah, that
was just a couple of weeks ago,

897
00:56:23,610 --> 00:56:24,030
I think.

898
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:29,280
No, this comes from July 27. No,
2021? No, I

899
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:32,580
think his his, his sentencing
was just a few weeks ago, I

900
00:56:32,580 --> 00:56:40,320
believe. Oh, maybe. He was
convicted of nine federal

901
00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:45,030
charges in 2021 on April
14 2022. So a couple months ago,

902
00:56:45,390 --> 00:56:48,540
Buck was sentenced to 30 years
in prison. You didn't I mean, I

903
00:56:48,540 --> 00:56:52,200
knew what happened. And I
remember again, it was all but

904
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:55,680
there was a lot going on. It was
not M five M coverage. It

905
00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:59,190
definitely warranted it because
this was a big ass donor.

906
00:56:59,190 --> 00:57:02,790
Everyone's in pictures with him.
What he did was despicable and

907
00:57:02,790 --> 00:57:05,580
30 years is not you know, he'll
die in prison, basically.

908
00:57:06,270 --> 00:57:08,670
But he's a serial killer. Yes,

909
00:57:08,700 --> 00:57:11,280
of course he is. Yes.

910
00:57:11,490 --> 00:57:16,950
No, just let him know that that
goes to show I weaved all this

911
00:57:16,950 --> 00:57:20,910
together to show you when they
want to come up with story. They

912
00:57:20,910 --> 00:57:24,030
can cover up and cover it up.
Yeah. Even if you're killing

913
00:57:24,030 --> 00:57:29,100
black gay men. Who is right up
there. I mean, like, I mean,

914
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:32,700
being black and gay. I mean,
that's pretty high on the totem

915
00:57:32,700 --> 00:57:36,150
pole. Yeah, I mean, you were the
one that passed pesky man part.

916
00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:39,840
If it was Rue Paul or something
like that, and they might be a

917
00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:41,850
bigger story. No, no.

918
00:57:43,170 --> 00:57:46,200
No, Ed bucks the money man.

919
00:57:46,530 --> 00:57:47,880
He was the money man.

920
00:57:47,940 --> 00:57:51,810
He makes things happen. And that
goes to show you that they

921
00:57:51,810 --> 00:57:55,320
covered it up. And if they
wanted to cover it forgive them.

922
00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:57,030
They did. Hey.

923
00:57:59,580 --> 00:58:04,050
I'm with you. You've got me
convinced. They covered up and

924
00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:06,450
and for reasons yet unknown.

925
00:58:07,350 --> 00:58:09,690
So and what is this? Like? I
said, What is this thing? What

926
00:58:09,690 --> 00:58:14,550
Ed? But what is this? Is this
like a thing with meth and gay

927
00:58:14,550 --> 00:58:18,300
sex for the Democratic Party? I
mean, like, we're just not

928
00:58:18,300 --> 00:58:22,800
specifically remember drugs. We
act like we don't have a

929
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:27,090
president who? I know. Bringing
up Hunter, but I have to

930
00:58:27,090 --> 00:58:32,010
juxtapose him. Yes. To
everything. To everything.

931
00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:36,150
Yeah, got that. Right. Yeah,
that right there. No, it proves

932
00:58:36,150 --> 00:58:40,800
it. Just like that story. We saw
everything that DOJ is not going

933
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:44,730
after. I mean, there's some
investigation supposedly. Yeah,

934
00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:47,640
I mean, the IRS may be
investigating him supposedly,

935
00:58:47,670 --> 00:58:50,940
you know, then there's some
things going on. But yeah, in

936
00:58:50,940 --> 00:58:54,960
general is completely covered up
and it's to the degree where the

937
00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:59,010
emperor has no clothes.
Literally, the emperor has no

938
00:58:59,010 --> 00:59:02,520
clothes. We don't see that with
Emperor's looks great.

939
00:59:03,750 --> 00:59:07,710
In a bookstore, he was like one
of the first cases Oh, pre

940
00:59:07,710 --> 00:59:11,850
Hunter. Yeah, of saying, Hey, if
you want to write to the media,

941
00:59:11,850 --> 00:59:16,500
we're not covering the gallery.
And let's just go ahead and get

942
00:59:16,500 --> 00:59:17,730
to 16.

943
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:20,070
During the two weeks of
testimony, there were more than

944
00:59:20,130 --> 00:59:23,250
eight men that spoke in this
trial, and at times, the

945
00:59:23,250 --> 00:59:26,490
testimony was harsh and
difficult for even the jurors to

946
00:59:26,490 --> 00:59:30,660
hear. So much of it involves
graphic testimony of Edie bucks

947
00:59:30,660 --> 00:59:35,670
alleged sexual fetishes, and his
desire, said the prosecution to

948
00:59:35,700 --> 00:59:40,890
inject methamphetamine into his
victims against their will. Now

949
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:43,920
two of those victims, of course
could not testify and that was

950
00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:47,610
more indeed most of them died in
that apartment more dying

951
00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:52,050
exactly four months ago today.
His family now is speaking to

952
00:59:52,050 --> 00:59:55,200
the press. We have a live camera
just steps away from me. Let's

953
00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:55,650
listen in.

954
00:59:56,940 --> 01:00:01,860
I'll just add this thing to show
you that he's telling the truth.

955
01:00:01,860 --> 01:00:05,220
We have a council member behind
you at City Hall named Paul

956
01:00:05,220 --> 01:00:08,490
curettes, who told a group of
people that all of ebooks

957
01:00:08,490 --> 01:00:12,330
victims were nothing but
disadvantaged black hustlers.

958
01:00:12,630 --> 01:00:16,200
And that is how a lot of the
politicians looked at his

959
01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:19,050
victims, which is why they like
Paul Kretz never returned his

960
01:00:19,050 --> 01:00:22,140
money never even tried to
acknowledge this case, we won

961
01:00:22,140 --> 01:00:26,610
the Democratic Party, of which
I'm a member of, because like

962
01:00:26,610 --> 01:00:29,820
Sammy said, it wasn't just the
investigators and the sheriff's

963
01:00:29,820 --> 01:00:32,520
department. It was the
politician. It was the media

964
01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:37,290
worried about getting sued by AD
bog, it was everybody. And so I

965
01:00:37,290 --> 01:00:40,590
think we all feel vindicated
today. Like, you know, finally.

966
01:00:41,490 --> 01:00:44,730
Hmm. Not on the Democratic
Party. Yes.

967
01:00:45,690 --> 01:00:47,580
We feel what we get boo.

968
01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:53,490
Yeah. And the reason why from
their stance and not just judge

969
01:00:53,490 --> 01:00:56,340
people by their own standards,
from the democratic standards,

970
01:00:56,340 --> 01:00:59,040
first of all, you have a black
man being killed by a white man.

971
01:00:59,820 --> 01:01:04,860
Okay. Yep. And that black man
happens to be gay. Yep. Chan,

972
01:01:04,860 --> 01:01:09,030
that black man is being drugged
against his will check for

973
01:01:09,030 --> 01:01:13,110
sexual purposes, and even to
murder him. Check.

974
01:01:14,310 --> 01:01:17,220
Congratulations, you're here,
you can no score here, you can

975
01:01:17,220 --> 01:01:18,390
now run for president.

976
01:01:20,190 --> 01:01:25,830
So now you see that it really
doesn't matter. All those that

977
01:01:26,130 --> 01:01:28,290
mean, they fall under black
lives matter. They fall into

978
01:01:28,290 --> 01:01:35,310
pride, they fall under sexual
victims, drug addicts, all these

979
01:01:35,340 --> 01:01:39,870
I mean, all of these different
groups and, and, you know,

980
01:01:40,350 --> 01:01:44,040
agendas, and nobody wanted to
take on their story all because

981
01:01:44,040 --> 01:01:52,410
why a book was the money man.
Can't make it up. And a lot of

982
01:01:52,410 --> 01:01:56,370
heat. And I want to I keep
bringing this back. Because for

983
01:01:56,370 --> 01:01:58,500
what she said today. We're
hustlers.

984
01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:01,590
Yeah, that's a lot. That's
pretty rude man. That mean,

985
01:02:01,590 --> 01:02:02,640
these are people too.

986
01:02:04,080 --> 01:02:09,660
Right? These are gay black men.
They're victims of sex crimes.

987
01:02:12,120 --> 01:02:15,060
The way she said that now,
actually, I want to go back and

988
01:02:15,060 --> 01:02:16,590
play that again, where she,

989
01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:19,920
of course could not testify. And
that was more indeed alleged

990
01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:22,020
sexual fetishes. And his

991
01:02:24,570 --> 01:02:27,510
to show you that he's telling
the truth. We have a council

992
01:02:27,510 --> 01:02:31,260
member behind you at City Hall
named Paul curettes, who told a

993
01:02:31,260 --> 01:02:34,920
group of people that all of Ed
books, victims were nothing but

994
01:02:34,920 --> 01:02:39,060
disadvantaged black hustlers.
And that is how a lot of the

995
01:02:39,060 --> 01:02:42,450
politicians looked at his
victims, which is why they like

996
01:02:42,450 --> 01:02:44,550
Paul curettes never returned his
money. Yeah,

997
01:02:44,730 --> 01:02:50,370
yeah. Yeah. And that is,
unfortunately, I think, spot on

998
01:02:50,370 --> 01:02:52,740
and on message for the
Democratic Party, today's

999
01:02:52,740 --> 01:02:53,700
Democratic Party.

1000
01:02:54,750 --> 01:02:58,560
And it's the same people. Yeah,
at the same time are giving

1001
01:02:58,560 --> 01:03:03,990
these men free meth pipes. So
they can have a more pleasurable

1002
01:03:03,990 --> 01:03:08,460
experience. Yeah, crack pipes.
Yeah, thank thank you for

1003
01:03:08,460 --> 01:03:11,490
putting that out there that's
straight and opening up the

1004
01:03:11,490 --> 01:03:18,150
border. So this super myth could
flow a flood over? It seems like

1005
01:03:18,150 --> 01:03:22,440
they're creating a market for
their fetish. How many they'll

1006
01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:25,890
keep it 100 with you. That's
what it seems like to me, like,

1007
01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:28,830
oh, let's keep them hooked. And
we can just go down like Ed Buck

1008
01:03:28,830 --> 01:03:32,880
did and we can find SEC
survivors. So that's what they

1009
01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:35,910
are. They're SEC survivors. And
that's why they call them

1010
01:03:35,910 --> 01:03:39,510
hustlers because they use sex to
survive. A lot of these guys are

1011
01:03:39,510 --> 01:03:49,860
not even textbook gay. There's
they're a market. Yeah. No, I'm

1012
01:03:49,860 --> 01:03:53,070
just saying I mean, so we got to
humanize these people. And the

1013
01:03:53,070 --> 01:03:55,620
reason why I'm just being so
flip it about it, because that's

1014
01:03:55,620 --> 01:03:58,860
how they seem just as a
demographic, oh, your pride or

1015
01:03:58,860 --> 01:04:00,540
your black lives matter. Oh,
you're,

1016
01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:02,880
you're just a hustler. You're
just a hustler.

1017
01:04:03,450 --> 01:04:06,930
Right, so they want to discard
them. Oh, it's like, are you in

1018
01:04:06,930 --> 01:04:10,050
there's no red insight in this
case. So that's the thing we're

1019
01:04:10,050 --> 01:04:12,690
talking about in a vacuum here.
Yeah, that goes to show that

1020
01:04:12,690 --> 01:04:15,780
these politicians don't care
about you. So I want to get into

1021
01:04:15,780 --> 01:04:19,590
what actually what survival sex
is, is a throwback from show

1022
01:04:19,620 --> 01:04:21,660
eight. And this is Tiffany
Graham.

1023
01:04:21,930 --> 01:04:28,200
survival sex is an enormous
issue to LGBTQ youth between the

1024
01:04:28,200 --> 01:04:33,810
ages of 10 and 25 are 70% more
likely to engage in survival

1025
01:04:33,810 --> 01:04:38,790
sex, while 80% of homeless
transgender youths are more

1026
01:04:38,790 --> 01:04:41,670
likely to have engaged in
survival sex than homeless

1027
01:04:41,670 --> 01:04:47,280
cisgender youths? Now, what do
we mean by survival sex. In

1028
01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:52,140
principle, survival sex is part
of the wider commercial sex

1029
01:04:52,140 --> 01:04:56,040
trade. People who engage in
survival sex to do so because

1030
01:04:56,040 --> 01:05:01,920
they literally have no other way
to survive. So they exchange sex

1031
01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:05,400
for money, they exchange sex for
shelter, they exchange it for

1032
01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:09,000
food, clothing, or any other
good, which is a necessity of

1033
01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:09,450
life.

1034
01:05:09,810 --> 01:05:13,470
And Metaphorically speaking, you
know, what we've discussed over

1035
01:05:13,470 --> 01:05:18,810
the past 82 shows it fits right
in with the overall image of the

1036
01:05:18,810 --> 01:05:24,960
Democratic Party, when it comes
to black Americans don't give a

1037
01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:25,440
shit.

1038
01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:30,990
They don't. Even more than that
it's not like is this neglect?

1039
01:05:31,050 --> 01:05:34,350
Neglect fullness? You know, I'll
be, you know, saying neglect is

1040
01:05:34,350 --> 01:05:38,940
no, we're praying, we're gonna
create policies and programs,

1041
01:05:39,420 --> 01:05:43,590
that's going to provide more
drugs, better ways to use drugs.

1042
01:05:45,240 --> 01:05:49,110
So we create this market that
can be preyed on by Democrats

1043
01:05:49,110 --> 01:05:51,390
and Republicans. It's that like,
we don't want that predators on

1044
01:05:51,390 --> 01:05:54,360
both sides out. But I'm just
saying who has the leverage

1045
01:05:54,360 --> 01:05:59,730
right now? Yeah. And who's more
jokes? You know? Nothing about

1046
01:05:59,730 --> 01:06:00,450
fitting No.

1047
01:06:01,950 --> 01:06:02,940
No, interesting.

1048
01:06:04,230 --> 01:06:06,690
And I mean, I'm sure you had I
mean, I don't know if he had

1049
01:06:06,690 --> 01:06:09,450
heard of Superman before. He
knows what I have never heard

1050
01:06:09,450 --> 01:06:12,420
of. Yeah. This is what's being
pumped in the streets. And then

1051
01:06:12,420 --> 01:06:16,410
a little older, just homeless.
No, a lot of these guys men or

1052
01:06:16,740 --> 01:06:23,400
boys, because he said 1010 years
old. That's pedophilia. This is

1053
01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:26,430
the pizza party, folks. I know
people get triggered when I say

1054
01:06:26,430 --> 01:06:31,710
that. But this is the pizza
party. It ain't just a book. It

1055
01:06:31,710 --> 01:06:36,270
ain't just just laying Maxwell.
It ain't no. This is a system.

1056
01:06:36,390 --> 01:06:39,630
And it's global. Oh, yeah. It's
how you

1057
01:06:39,630 --> 01:06:41,670
know. Anybody else?

1058
01:06:41,730 --> 01:06:45,660
Yes. I'm always very careful
with these conversations. I'm

1059
01:06:45,660 --> 01:06:49,110
cool with it here on the
podcast. But like I did, I just

1060
01:06:49,110 --> 01:06:51,990
start discussing this on a radio
station in the Netherlands back

1061
01:06:51,990 --> 01:06:57,030
in the early 2000s. And it was
about, interestingly enough, the

1062
01:06:57,030 --> 01:07:02,940
Dutch Justice Department, the
attorney general, in fact, of

1063
01:07:02,940 --> 01:07:05,970
the Netherlands, and that case
is still ongoing. Everyone

1064
01:07:05,970 --> 01:07:09,030
knows, everyone knows what the
guy was into everybody. It's all

1065
01:07:09,030 --> 01:07:11,280
known, but it's just now we're
just not going to move on it.

1066
01:07:11,430 --> 01:07:14,940
And I start, I brought this up
and had a journalist on who had

1067
01:07:14,970 --> 01:07:18,780
gone pretty deep on this. And
the station's license was pulled

1068
01:07:18,810 --> 01:07:21,210
and, and everything was gone two
weeks later.

1069
01:07:24,240 --> 01:07:27,300
And the reason why I'm bringing
this up is the more and more we

1070
01:07:27,300 --> 01:07:31,230
see in the news story, you know,
teachers pushing this guy, you

1071
01:07:31,230 --> 01:07:35,070
know, these agendas, and, you
know, people are not even being

1072
01:07:35,070 --> 01:07:38,610
sensible. And now it's to a
point like, a straight up just

1073
01:07:39,300 --> 01:07:46,560
child abuse. Yes, not in public
in broad daylight. And it's

1074
01:07:46,560 --> 01:07:49,980
already been normalized. Like, I
mean, you heard Tiffany Graham,

1075
01:07:49,980 --> 01:07:53,520
I mean, she's the dean of you
know, I mean, she's no, she's

1076
01:07:53,520 --> 01:07:56,310
the Dean of the University of
South Dakota law school.

1077
01:07:57,450 --> 01:08:01,770
As much as I hate to say it,
but, you know, this pedophilia,

1078
01:08:01,800 --> 01:08:05,520
and abusing children. I mean,
the biggest cover up is still

1079
01:08:05,520 --> 01:08:10,950
the Catholic Church. I mean,
it's like this, like, this shit

1080
01:08:10,950 --> 01:08:13,320
is covered up. That's why it's
easy to say it's global. It's

1081
01:08:13,320 --> 01:08:16,080
across all kinds of, quote,
unquote, industries.

1082
01:08:16,560 --> 01:08:19,380
And to be honest with you, I
went limited to the Catholic

1083
01:08:19,380 --> 01:08:21,240
Church, but we'll get there a
little later.

1084
01:08:21,239 --> 01:08:23,039
I know. But that's the one
that's probably like, I mean,

1085
01:08:23,039 --> 01:08:26,879
everyone knows about it's one of
their old now. Paths.

1086
01:08:28,440 --> 01:08:32,520
Right. So what I want to do now,
before we get into the donation

1087
01:08:32,520 --> 01:08:36,990
segment, you want to hear an
instant Boulay phone moment.

1088
01:08:37,230 --> 01:08:44,190
Sure. So you heard how she was
trashing the politicians. And in

1089
01:08:44,190 --> 01:08:47,100
the print not not in the last
clip, not Tiffany Graham, but

1090
01:08:47,100 --> 01:08:49,230
the woman who was speaking on
behalf of the

1091
01:08:50,490 --> 01:08:53,130
Democrats, right, I figured she
might get in trouble for saying

1092
01:08:53,130 --> 01:08:53,490
that.

1093
01:08:54,630 --> 01:08:56,880
All right, it's the blue light
phone. It was

1094
01:08:56,910 --> 01:09:00,840
everybody. And so I think we all
feel vindicated today. Like, you

1095
01:09:00,840 --> 01:09:02,910
know, finally. So

1096
01:09:02,940 --> 01:09:06,570
anyway, I just wanted to say one
thing. Before we go, we are

1097
01:09:06,570 --> 01:09:10,410
tremendously proud and lucky to
have gotten to work with our law

1098
01:09:10,410 --> 01:09:14,730
enforcement partners in the
sheriff's department in FBI and

1099
01:09:14,730 --> 01:09:20,130
DEA, they put together a
tremendous case, and we would

1100
01:09:20,130 --> 01:09:24,450
not have had the volume and
quality of evidence without our

1101
01:09:24,450 --> 01:09:28,170
law enforcement partners who are
the unsung heroes here so

1102
01:09:29,580 --> 01:09:34,920
it's so unusual to be feeling a
bit absolutely shame on Jackie

1103
01:09:34,920 --> 01:09:38,430
Lacey that all that evidence
Yeah, but I'm happy that we're

1104
01:09:38,430 --> 01:09:40,740
able to get it to you and I'm
happy you guys

1105
01:09:41,460 --> 01:09:43,470
who stepped in there who was
that?

1106
01:09:44,610 --> 01:09:48,480
I think it was the lawyer one of
the lawyers. Would you see how

1107
01:09:48,480 --> 01:09:53,400
quick you Oh, yeah, she This is
the mindset I'm talking about

1108
01:09:53,400 --> 01:09:58,530
because even in this politician
thing is politics things. It's

1109
01:09:58,530 --> 01:10:02,340
their religion. It's not
politics anymore.

1110
01:10:02,400 --> 01:10:04,080
cult. Cult.

1111
01:10:04,799 --> 01:10:09,059
Yeah. So what you heard her she
was going on for everybody. Then

1112
01:10:09,059 --> 01:10:12,239
this lady steps and she's like,
Oh yeah, you're right. I was

1113
01:10:12,239 --> 01:10:13,829
wrong instant Boulais phone.

1114
01:10:15,030 --> 01:10:17,040
Yeah. And then she topped it
with something else like the

1115
01:10:17,040 --> 01:10:19,530
Who's that guy? You know the
shame on you? Yeah, she

1116
01:10:19,530 --> 01:10:22,110
had a we have found another
victim because she was

1117
01:10:22,140 --> 01:10:25,500
consciously aware of how she
sounded doing, you know, saying

1118
01:10:25,500 --> 01:10:29,730
I wonder a degree turn. So she
had to put the ire on somebody

1119
01:10:29,730 --> 01:10:36,300
else. So um, yeah. So that's the
first block. That's that's the

1120
01:10:36,360 --> 01:10:41,040
Andrew Gillum. What happened
that night, we're going to see

1121
01:10:41,040 --> 01:10:44,730
the fallout on the other side,
and then the agendas that he's

1122
01:10:44,730 --> 01:10:47,670
in bed with. But before we do
that, let's thank some people.

1123
01:10:47,670 --> 01:10:48,090
First, the

1124
01:10:48,090 --> 01:10:51,330
white man and the black men have
to be able to sit down at the

1125
01:10:51,330 --> 01:10:54,600
same table, the white man has to
feel free to speak his mind

1126
01:10:54,600 --> 01:10:57,390
without hurting the feelings of
that negro. And the so called

1127
01:10:57,390 --> 01:11:00,420
Negro has to feel free to speak
his mind without hurting the

1128
01:11:00,420 --> 01:11:03,210
feeling of the white man, then
they can bring the issues that

1129
01:11:03,210 --> 01:11:05,550
are under the rug out on top of
the table and take an

1130
01:11:05,550 --> 01:11:07,860
intelligent approach to get the
problem themselves. That's the

1131
01:11:07,860 --> 01:11:08,340
only way.

1132
01:11:09,900 --> 01:11:13,350
That's right value for value.
That's what no facts with Adam

1133
01:11:13,350 --> 01:11:18,420
curry is all about. And it's
very simple. None of this stuff

1134
01:11:18,450 --> 01:11:21,870
is discussed in the media. Why?
Because you can't get away with

1135
01:11:21,870 --> 01:11:25,890
it. Your advertisers will be
pulled if you're doing it on big

1136
01:11:25,890 --> 01:11:31,290
tech, for sure. Your your
podcast or your blog, or your

1137
01:11:31,290 --> 01:11:36,870
tweets or whatever it is will be
d monetized. I mean, we you

1138
01:11:36,870 --> 01:11:40,650
don't monetize on YouTube, but
because you probably would be D

1139
01:11:40,650 --> 01:11:43,530
monetized right away. I mean,
the only way this work can be

1140
01:11:43,530 --> 01:11:47,730
done is through the support of
our producers who don't just

1141
01:11:47,730 --> 01:11:51,300
listen to the show, but you give
us feedback information ideas,

1142
01:11:51,630 --> 01:11:55,110
time talent, treasure is what we
call it and we love it when

1143
01:11:55,110 --> 01:11:57,930
people support the show
financially. So let's thank our

1144
01:11:57,930 --> 01:12:01,230
executive producers for episode
number 83 of moe facts with Adam

1145
01:12:01,230 --> 01:12:03,090
curry we start off right away
with a

1146
01:12:03,930 --> 01:12:07,650
sad call out 20 his blades on I
am Paula

1147
01:12:07,650 --> 01:12:12,720
big baller. Serrana must have
lower Slobo via of Dogpatch and

1148
01:12:12,720 --> 01:12:17,850
lowers LeBeau via comes in for
the second time I believe

1149
01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:24,720
supporting the show which is
unbelievable with $3,000. Holy

1150
01:12:24,720 --> 01:12:25,290
moly,

1151
01:12:25,920 --> 01:12:29,520
movie money phone what was the
cat get a Nextel shirt please I

1152
01:12:29,520 --> 01:12:31,050
have a mini Mani phones.

1153
01:12:32,520 --> 01:12:35,160
On I don't have I should have
the trimmer explain to

1154
01:12:35,160 --> 01:12:37,980
you where the money phone is.
That's when they take a stack of

1155
01:12:37,980 --> 01:12:41,220
cash and put it up to the air
like a phone.

1156
01:12:41,700 --> 01:12:47,430
There it is. There's your chirp.
Was there a note with this very

1157
01:12:47,430 --> 01:12:48,720
generous contribution.

1158
01:12:49,200 --> 01:12:54,300
It says from anonymous. Thank
you period. And he's staying

1159
01:12:54,300 --> 01:12:59,460
with fresh blue ink from a sack
of beans cheese. Bread. That's

1160
01:12:59,460 --> 01:13:02,970
the biggest baller. I mean, I
don't think anybody's no not

1161
01:13:02,970 --> 01:13:05,250
that. So he's officially the
biggest ball

1162
01:13:05,280 --> 01:13:09,360
biggest ball man this guy is and
he's mysterious. He supported no

1163
01:13:09,360 --> 01:13:16,440
agenda. He supported podcasting.
2.0 mo facts. Whoever you are

1164
01:13:16,440 --> 01:13:19,290
synonymous, we really, really
appreciate it. That really

1165
01:13:19,290 --> 01:13:21,930
helps. Certainly during the
summer months. Big deal.

1166
01:13:22,260 --> 01:13:26,160
Thank you. I must do this. Thank
you. Thank you. Yes, that's just

1167
01:13:26,160 --> 01:13:29,550
no, that's beautiful. That's
beautiful. What just I know you

1168
01:13:29,550 --> 01:13:34,020
may be a little confused how to
list this setup. Oh, yeah. Next

1169
01:13:34,020 --> 01:13:34,650
few people.

1170
01:13:34,650 --> 01:13:37,050
I know I can borrow people. I
completely turn it all around.

1171
01:13:37,050 --> 01:13:43,440
So I screwed that up. I think
you did. Oh, no. Do that then.

1172
01:13:44,160 --> 01:13:48,090
Okay. She'll be red. Yes, I've
got the red. Now. What do you

1173
01:13:48,090 --> 01:13:49,470
want me to do with the red stuff
here?

1174
01:13:49,500 --> 01:13:53,490
Yeah, cuz those are people. We
appreciate all value and all

1175
01:13:53,490 --> 01:13:59,400
sizes. Those are people that
donate through Venmo. And I

1176
01:13:59,400 --> 01:14:03,180
missed their donations. The last
show. I wanted to put them right

1177
01:14:03,180 --> 01:14:08,280
to the top. I segmented it by
more than $50 in less than $50.

1178
01:14:08,310 --> 01:14:12,180
Yes. What's gonna happen is
we're gonna thank them upfront.

1179
01:14:12,240 --> 01:14:14,910
I think it's for people. And
then we'll get to whoever is

1180
01:14:14,910 --> 01:14:18,630
next on this show. Because if we
make a miss, we'll make good on

1181
01:14:18,630 --> 01:14:21,690
it. And we will make good on it.
You got

1182
01:14:21,690 --> 01:14:27,750
it. All right. So we start now
with 69 from Jeffrey Coyne. Yes.

1183
01:14:27,960 --> 01:14:33,540
Who says mo karma and a big
vinegar deducing please keep up

1184
01:14:33,540 --> 01:14:37,380
the great show. Well, but we
usually do deadbeat on the show.

1185
01:14:37,380 --> 01:14:40,110
So if you don't mind, you know,
I'll give you a D deadbeat with

1186
01:14:40,110 --> 01:14:41,220
some vinegar there.

1187
01:14:41,460 --> 01:14:46,050
Congratulations. You're no
longer dead.

1188
01:14:48,420 --> 01:14:49,200
You've got a

1189
01:14:51,990 --> 01:14:56,730
big vendor. Brian from work says
love this show. Awesome. Will

1190
01:14:56,730 --> 01:15:00,240
Smith slap break down I've sent
it to several people. I I should

1191
01:15:00,240 --> 01:15:02,910
have sent this a while ago but
Dark Horse podcast did a good

1192
01:15:02,910 --> 01:15:08,610
breakdown of Miss DIS and Mal
information. Episode 119 about

1193
01:15:08,610 --> 01:15:12,240
one hour and 40 seconds Okay,
thank you very much and it's $50

1194
01:15:12,240 --> 01:15:17,430
from Brian from work thank you
Brian. Hannah l $50. Lightning

1195
01:15:17,430 --> 01:15:21,870
Bolt and headphone emoji is that
what came through on the Venmo?

1196
01:15:22,200 --> 01:15:26,130
Yes, I love that. It was
lightning bolt Nice. Scott R

1197
01:15:26,130 --> 01:15:28,830
says thank you I'm learning a
lot and $50 from him We're sorry

1198
01:15:28,830 --> 01:15:33,270
we missed you guys and we're
caught up with that now we have

1199
01:15:34,710 --> 01:15:40,080
absurd observations with $250
Beautiful check email for know

1200
01:15:40,080 --> 01:15:42,570
did you have an email from
absurd observation sent

1201
01:15:42,570 --> 01:15:45,060
you an email with a note? Let me
see.

1202
01:15:46,470 --> 01:15:47,220
Goodness

1203
01:15:47,250 --> 01:15:49,170
It's somewhere in my stack of
papers here

1204
01:15:49,200 --> 01:15:54,510
I have I have Alexander help Sir
Alexander. Oh, here it is. Yes,

1205
01:15:54,510 --> 01:15:57,900
I got it. I'm sorry. I do have
it. This is from the desk of

1206
01:15:57,900 --> 01:16:01,230
absurd observations dear Mo and
Adam I was compelled to send in

1207
01:16:01,230 --> 01:16:04,770
some value for value again this
time under the name I'd prefer

1208
01:16:04,770 --> 01:16:10,800
being used see above. You got
it. In the last two episodes,

1209
01:16:10,860 --> 01:16:15,300
numbers 1881 Wow. You're
bringing the fax machine to life

1210
01:16:15,300 --> 01:16:18,570
and I realize how much work this
takes the respect and love you

1211
01:16:18,570 --> 01:16:21,630
both show each other during
these is sorely lacking element

1212
01:16:21,630 --> 01:16:25,290
in the world today. We need more
of this. And the pacification of

1213
01:16:25,290 --> 01:16:29,220
America I say often sigh keep it
going I'm here for it. PS

1214
01:16:29,430 --> 01:16:34,590
hashtag plebs donate WTF you
waiting for slackers? PSS Mo,

1215
01:16:34,860 --> 01:16:39,030
would you like some Banana Nut
Bread? So he can choke on it? Is

1216
01:16:39,030 --> 01:16:40,860
that what you're saying? Yeah,

1217
01:16:40,860 --> 01:16:43,380
that's this. Yeah. Love and lit
too.

1218
01:16:43,380 --> 01:16:48,960
All right now. Cool. Oh man.
Thanks. Sir Alexander of middle

1219
01:16:48,960 --> 01:16:56,010
Cascadia and Sir Alexander sent
us $200 And here's his note.

1220
01:16:57,630 --> 01:16:59,730
Even though he says it's not
necessary to read I think we

1221
01:16:59,730 --> 01:17:02,610
should greetings not necessarily
read on the show. Mo here's a

1222
01:17:02,610 --> 01:17:04,920
copy of the letter I sent to
Adam sometime between his move

1223
01:17:04,920 --> 01:17:08,640
from Austin to the hill country
so my bold prediction is you've

1224
01:17:08,640 --> 01:17:10,230
never seen the letter

1225
01:17:11,430 --> 01:17:14,430
that I not forwarded to you. I'm
terrible emails.

1226
01:17:15,270 --> 01:17:18,540
Hell we love Adam to death but I
suspect he couldn't find his ass

1227
01:17:18,540 --> 01:17:21,690
with both hands in the daylight
without his wonderful keeper let

1228
01:17:21,690 --> 01:17:23,970
alone will trying to move
etcetera. Thank goodness for

1229
01:17:23,970 --> 01:17:25,620
keepers because I'm in the same
boat.

1230
01:17:25,650 --> 01:17:27,090
I hear you and I'm in that boat.

1231
01:17:28,650 --> 01:17:31,920
And that boat is not leaking the
keep the boat afloat.

1232
01:17:32,550 --> 01:17:34,980
Housekeeping pretty sure I
screwed up the Joe Rogan date in

1233
01:17:34,980 --> 01:17:37,620
my original letter should have
been September 2020 Long story

1234
01:17:37,620 --> 01:17:40,200
why screwed it up involved the
five day stay in intensive care

1235
01:17:40,200 --> 01:17:42,840
I'll fill you in someday if you
really want to know you got the

1236
01:17:42,840 --> 01:17:47,280
great work Mad Love sir
Alexandra of middle Cascadia and

1237
01:17:47,280 --> 01:17:49,860
he says found the Lost Tapes on
bit shoot. Thank you. Yes soon

1238
01:17:49,860 --> 01:17:52,050
to be on podcasting. 2.0

1239
01:17:52,620 --> 01:17:55,410
Yes. And let me stop for a
minute since we're speaking to

1240
01:17:55,410 --> 01:18:00,390
keepers. Can I get a biscuit?
One of the biggest and warmest

1241
01:18:00,390 --> 01:18:05,490
biscuits for my wife, Mrs. Facts
whose birthday is today? And if

1242
01:18:05,490 --> 01:18:08,100
you're listening I love you
honey. They always give me a

1243
01:18:08,100 --> 01:18:09,570
biscuit on my birthday.

1244
01:18:10,830 --> 01:18:16,380
So sweet. And he does and he
does I have it on good authority

1245
01:18:16,380 --> 01:18:22,710
he does. Happy Birthday Miss
facts. Mrs. Facts. Onwards

1246
01:18:22,740 --> 01:18:27,810
174 29 interesting number
Bernadine Cerny says monad um I

1247
01:18:27,810 --> 01:18:32,310
want to thank you for opening my
white and crusted eyes to some

1248
01:18:32,310 --> 01:18:35,880
things It scales not crusty to
some things that I never would

1249
01:18:35,880 --> 01:18:39,840
have even thought of jobs for
that yeah right. This podcast

1250
01:18:39,870 --> 01:18:43,290
really is like taking a college
level class but far superior to

1251
01:18:43,290 --> 01:18:47,040
anything US colleges could or
would offer these days I started

1252
01:18:47,040 --> 01:18:49,560
listening to episodes twice just
to make sure I didn't miss

1253
01:18:49,560 --> 01:18:51,900
anything I'm making this
donation in honor of my husband

1254
01:18:51,900 --> 01:18:55,080
for the for Father's Day. Adam
will know me as deemed black

1255
01:18:55,080 --> 01:18:59,370
hammer on the no agenda side but
I'm no Dame on mo facts Mrs.

1256
01:18:59,370 --> 01:19:02,760
Black Hammer will have to do
Happy Father's Day to my loving

1257
01:19:02,760 --> 01:19:05,700
husband and the father of my 10
Human Resources eight on the

1258
01:19:05,700 --> 01:19:09,810
ground to in heaven. See Mike, I
love that you love me and I love

1259
01:19:09,810 --> 01:19:12,900
you right back please. D dead
beat us. Got it.

1260
01:19:13,679 --> 01:19:18,569
Congratulations. You're no
longer a dead baby.

1261
01:19:18,600 --> 01:19:22,560
keep the fire going. God bless
numerology husband was born in

1262
01:19:22,560 --> 01:19:26,640
74 and two and nine are his
favorite numbers. So just for

1263
01:19:26,640 --> 01:19:29,970
the value. I should stick a one
in front of that wish it could

1264
01:19:29,970 --> 01:19:33,450
be more of this is Black Hammer.
Thank you so much. They're

1265
01:19:33,480 --> 01:19:38,070
lovely. And they they're always
at meetups and all the kids are

1266
01:19:38,070 --> 01:19:41,460
running around like nut jobs.
And they do jingles are very

1267
01:19:41,460 --> 01:19:45,480
funny. So great family. And I
appreciate that. We love him.

1268
01:19:45,510 --> 01:19:51,630
Yeah, we love it. Yeah, we love
how you do it. Yeah, we all know

1269
01:19:51,630 --> 01:19:56,520
that you don't do it mo we all
know it's Mrs. Facts who run

1270
01:19:56,550 --> 01:20:01,500
runs the house. Yes, this one
runs the kids. Thank you very

1271
01:20:01,500 --> 01:20:06,750
much do your M $150 No No but we
really appreciate that Nicole

1272
01:20:06,780 --> 01:20:10,230
Nicholas Robinson also 150 Keep
up the great work mo please D

1273
01:20:10,230 --> 01:20:11,970
dead beat me sir carries

1274
01:20:13,830 --> 01:20:19,980
congratulations you're no longer
a dead the Christian Jacobsen

1275
01:20:20,130 --> 01:20:23,970
12345 He says for all the
entertainment and knowledge love

1276
01:20:23,970 --> 01:20:31,170
the show and that's it he sent a
private note an email so I

1277
01:20:31,170 --> 01:20:35,910
presume you got that yes I do
yeah anonymous comes in with a

1278
01:20:36,060 --> 01:20:40,230
row sticks 111 11 Please keep me
anonymous you got it making good

1279
01:20:40,230 --> 01:20:42,930
on my end of the value
proposition hit me with a cancel

1280
01:20:42,930 --> 01:20:47,670
cannon sloppy Q Oh, I guess
sloppy Q is the is the anonymous

1281
01:20:47,670 --> 01:20:55,350
name love that Yes. Philip V
Brown also known as kilo India

1282
01:20:55,530 --> 01:21:01,080
kilo one is at one kilo India
five November TX I think. I

1283
01:21:01,080 --> 01:21:02,700
think it's TX

1284
01:21:03,930 --> 01:21:07,710
Oh, the houses are gonna get you
well, don't get me for call you

1285
01:21:07,710 --> 01:21:08,490
hamsters can't

1286
01:21:09,060 --> 01:21:12,660
i or what? It must be an eyes so
it's kilo India five November

1287
01:21:12,660 --> 01:21:16,200
Tango X ray, please D dead beat
me that one. I understood.

1288
01:21:16,590 --> 01:21:21,780
Congratulations. You're no
longer a dead beat.

1289
01:21:21,810 --> 01:21:26,070
We've got 110 from Walter faucet
of the West who says mo thanks

1290
01:21:26,070 --> 01:21:29,400
for the creative and interesting
content Gen X here grew up under

1291
01:21:29,400 --> 01:21:33,150
the doctrine of MLK enjoy your
takes on where we are today and

1292
01:21:33,150 --> 01:21:35,820
where we seem to be going I to
refuse the job but I was able to

1293
01:21:35,820 --> 01:21:39,450
keep my job with a religious
exemption a donation here to

1294
01:21:39,450 --> 01:21:42,120
help out and a recurring amount
monthly as well. I thank you for

1295
01:21:42,120 --> 01:21:44,940
the knowledge you bring to the
table every episode all the best

1296
01:21:44,940 --> 01:21:48,750
from a not Walter water water
faucet of the West. There we go.

1297
01:21:49,800 --> 01:21:53,430
I like water faucet. Walters?
Pretty funny too. Yeah, water

1298
01:21:53,430 --> 01:21:55,140
faucets, faucet.

1299
01:21:56,010 --> 01:21:58,620
Since you mentioned that we got
a lot of new subscriptions.

1300
01:21:58,650 --> 01:22:04,290
That's great. Excellent. And we
had just this is PayPal data

1301
01:22:04,290 --> 01:22:10,020
only just to let people know how
the value is coming. Oh, half of

1302
01:22:10,020 --> 01:22:16,680
the dough. Producers were new
producers. Wow, that's

1303
01:22:16,680 --> 01:22:20,760
fantastic. Yeah, half the people
that shared value this month

1304
01:22:20,760 --> 01:22:23,790
were new. So a lot of deadbeat
dad being gone.

1305
01:22:23,790 --> 01:22:27,600
That's nice. And well. Welcome
to the party pals. And and

1306
01:22:27,600 --> 01:22:30,540
thanks everybody who's been
propagating the formula letting

1307
01:22:30,540 --> 01:22:34,320
everybody know about about Moe
facts and I see that that's why

1308
01:22:34,320 --> 01:22:37,530
I share the information I said
that a lot on Twitter it's so I

1309
01:22:37,530 --> 01:22:41,070
love it so much when people are
plugged in the show and like you

1310
01:22:41,070 --> 01:22:47,130
know you got to get schooled by
parents will be proud. Sadly,

1311
01:22:47,130 --> 01:22:52,230
they're not around to witness
it. Well not in person. We got

1312
01:22:52,230 --> 01:22:56,520
two more here on the executive
producers, we got John nunley

1313
01:22:57,240 --> 01:23:00,360
$100 little value for value to
keep the fax machine running.

1314
01:23:00,360 --> 01:23:04,320
Appreciate that and Pamela M.
with $100 that she sent in a

1315
01:23:04,320 --> 01:23:05,250
card for us.

1316
01:23:05,790 --> 01:23:12,660
Yes, she did. And it is a card.
It has a nice pink hard on it on

1317
01:23:12,660 --> 01:23:16,770
the inside. It says love you
both. Oh, thank you love the

1318
01:23:16,770 --> 01:23:20,430
car. And we have one last
executive producer. That's

1319
01:23:20,430 --> 01:23:25,620
Robert stagger. thinks how you
pronounce it. And he came in

1320
01:23:25,620 --> 01:23:27,840
with three donations combined to
make 100

1321
01:23:27,870 --> 01:23:33,270
Holy crap. Okay, he's on here
again with the

1322
01:23:34,080 --> 01:23:37,590
yes, 5025 and 25. Sorry, I

1323
01:23:37,590 --> 01:23:42,180
gotcha. Okay. Let me make sure I
put him in here that as well.

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That's why I did it like that.
Because, yeah, this is this is

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01:23:46,410 --> 01:23:51,000
what caused the most anxiety.
Any part of the show was putting

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01:23:51,000 --> 01:23:53,940
the donation list because I'm I
was kicking myself for missing

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01:23:53,940 --> 01:23:56,640
people last time it is my worst
nightmare. It's a

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lot of it's a lot of eight.
That's the one thing the systems

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01:24:00,150 --> 01:24:02,550
are so dispersed, it becomes a
little complicated. So we're

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doing our best if we miss you,
just send us a note. We'll fix

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01:24:05,160 --> 01:24:05,730
it right up.

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And you go right to the top of
the list,

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01:24:07,620 --> 01:24:14,490
and we got Betty s with nine. We
appreciate that Betty you know,

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um, if you don't mind, I'm just
gonna chip in here. I'm gonna

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01:24:19,140 --> 01:24:21,930
give I'm gonna give Betty that
extra penny so she began as

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01:24:21,960 --> 01:24:25,200
executive executive producer.
There you go. You don't mind.

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Amy M $83. Hey, Mo and Adam.
These are Associate Executive

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01:24:29,370 --> 01:24:32,880
producers for episode 83. Show
Khloe and a show club donation

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01:24:32,880 --> 01:24:37,890
for 83 Yes, indeed. Bravo for 82
I think hating Disney Princesses

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01:24:37,890 --> 01:24:41,520
early on saved me. It's not my
first donation but still need a

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01:24:41,520 --> 01:24:45,270
D dead beating. Thank you very
much for the show WUSA for all.

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Congratulations. You're no
longer a debt.

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01:25:00,960 --> 01:25:06,300
Kyle Stefano, also known as Dane
girl, Kyle, Kylie. Kyle, I think

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01:25:06,300 --> 01:25:10,470
it's Kylie. We do this wrong all
the time. No, it's

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01:25:10,470 --> 01:25:12,270
Kyle. chastise you in the
letter.

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01:25:12,659 --> 01:25:17,999
I got it. Thanks for the love
from Dame girl Kyle. My name

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01:25:17,999 --> 01:25:20,939
seems to cause Adam some
continued hilarious confusion.

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01:25:21,059 --> 01:25:25,829
It's just Kyle no extra eye in
there. Not like Kylie Minogue or

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01:25:25,829 --> 01:25:30,479
Kardashian got it. Just like
Kyle. They historically dude's

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01:25:30,479 --> 01:25:35,069
name, um, a girl named Kyle Boy
Named Sue. I'll never forget

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01:25:35,069 --> 01:25:39,539
now. girl named Kyle Boy Named
Sue. Adam needs to stop with a

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01:25:39,539 --> 01:25:45,119
gender normative naming and do
the work. Just kidding, Adam,

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01:25:45,119 --> 01:25:48,809
you're my boo. I love you guys.
Thank you. kiled girl named Dame

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01:25:48,809 --> 01:25:55,379
girl named Kyle. Now remember
it? I hope Jonathan Faris with a

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01:25:55,379 --> 01:25:59,399
boob donation eight O dot o
8808. Greetings from the Baron

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01:25:59,399 --> 01:26:02,549
of southwest Kansas and Oklahoma
Panhandle. Can I get a biscuit

1357
01:26:02,549 --> 01:26:05,909
for my belated birthday? Always
give me a biscuit on my birthday

1358
01:26:05,909 --> 01:26:13,499
turn 49 on June 5. I also love
boobs any color Tyler Boyd

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01:26:13,499 --> 01:26:17,579
missed the boobs but came in
with $80 for keeping in keeping

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truckin mo from Eastern bulk
Turkey Eastern bowl right we

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01:26:21,509 --> 01:26:24,869
should say Turkey A is the new
way to pronounce turkeys Turkey

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01:26:24,869 --> 01:26:28,199
a they've rebranded Did you know
this that did not know that

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Yeah. Oh no. They're doing a
deal now with Sweden and with

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01:26:32,129 --> 01:26:36,149
Finland and their yeah oh yeah.
So they're not there. You know

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01:26:36,149 --> 01:26:38,939
their money is collapsing so you
might as well rebrand when that

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01:26:38,939 --> 01:26:46,589
happens it's Turkey a yes you
ended at an A at the end now. So

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01:26:46,589 --> 01:26:49,379
we will try to keep that up.
Thank you very much, Tyler and

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01:26:49,409 --> 01:26:52,499
send us a boots on the ground
report map. So there's Jeffrey

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coin with a 69 who we thanks
from his previous donation

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Brandon s $60.88. No note for
him. Jean cables 5337 And that's

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Australian dollars to US
dollars.

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He might be giving anonymous
around for his money

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I think it is like 1000 The
Australian dollar reduced we

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might be close we laughed gene
but we feel really bad for you.

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We were suffering

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just like you are how might we
come my way if we miss what

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01:27:28,380 --> 01:27:30,240
you're doing with your money
collapse? You change your name

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right?

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Goodness anonymous M who would
like to D douching. We d dead D

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chair at the most show
gratulations

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you're no longer a dead the

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01:27:43,800 --> 01:27:47,040
capital T $50 And these are
again Associate Executive

1383
01:27:47,040 --> 01:27:49,950
producers for episode 83 It's a
real title you can use in any

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01:27:49,950 --> 01:27:52,920
way who will vouch for you
please accept this value from a

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01:27:52,920 --> 01:27:57,180
regular Lowlander MoPhO as a
future soon to become dad have a

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01:27:57,180 --> 01:28:00,660
baby girl I'm taking notes I
really appreciate the works.

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01:28:00,780 --> 01:28:04,200
Keep that fax machine buzzing
just little karma will do from

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01:28:04,200 --> 01:28:07,590
Ramon will of course Ramon thank
you so much man and congrats on

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01:28:07,590 --> 01:28:09,210
the forthcoming human response

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Douglas Moog $50 Kevin shade 50.
Kyle man and that would be a

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01:28:20,760 --> 01:28:23,340
dude named Kyle. I guess you
sure about that. We'll just call

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01:28:23,340 --> 01:28:28,980
him Kylie. Just try to mix it
all up. Kyle man $50 Lee Harwood

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$50. And then we have Tyrone car
with 51st donation. I have to

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01:28:35,070 --> 01:28:38,130
say that as an eight off black,
gay conservative listening to

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01:28:38,130 --> 01:28:40,950
you and Adam discuss all of
these deeply relevant topics on

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01:28:40,950 --> 01:28:44,130
your show is oddly comforting,
inspiring, and immensely

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01:28:44,130 --> 01:28:48,420
valuable. The show often reminds
me of many 2am conversations I

1398
01:28:48,420 --> 01:28:50,850
have with my dad and brothers
where we all get together during

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01:28:50,850 --> 01:28:54,600
the holidays. What you're doing
is an essential public service.

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Keep pressing on Ty car. Thanks,
Ty. That's real cool, man.

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Appreciate that. And we're very
diverse with our audience. We

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love that William Taylor $50 No
note, no confessions. And that's

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01:29:11,670 --> 01:29:15,270
it. I think that's our executive
and Associate Executive

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01:29:15,270 --> 01:29:20,220
producers for episode number 83.
I do want to thank a couple of

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our boosters because this is
this is really a great way to

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support the show is get a
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We're suggesting you either get
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The fountain.fm is very easy. In
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then boost over here to mo facts
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easily get some coins in there
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these days pay pal may even be
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find a new app a new podcast
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is is the minute you feel that
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can just hit the button. Instead
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the cash app. I'm looking all
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you can do it multiple times and
Dred Scott hit it big today with

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Love it drip. Thank you very
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Dred Scott again, with a row of
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thematic was the app you use
this time another great episode.

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Keep on keeping on. Auburn
citadel 49,490 Boost got a

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brother, Merlin 47,247. Satoshi
switching my cash out monthly to

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a boost. I think you all prefer
that. Yes, we do. Thank you very

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much. Because now is the time to
boost boost that dip it's

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beautiful for us now. Boost that
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money 44,000 SATs. Love is lit.
Thank you very much money. At

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the time. That was a $9.21
boost. I'm sure that's

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significant. So I'll make sure I
mentioned it. We have a couple

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of other boosts here from head
Loon 35,000 We've got oh, this

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was cool. Sir Dwayne Melanson
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times for a total of 433,329
Sad.

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Sad Karla 20 is Blaze only
Impala in

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the morning, he says and Russa.
This episode has been very

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01:31:51,060 --> 01:31:53,910
enlightening. I feel much more
informed about the manosphere

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01:31:53,910 --> 01:31:58,440
and black manosphere now This of
course was our last episode. I

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01:31:58,440 --> 01:32:00,600
can definitely see a
continuation of the of the

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01:32:00,600 --> 01:32:03,180
destruction of the nuclear
family and traditional family

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01:32:03,180 --> 01:32:08,490
values. Our you know, keep up
your important work here. By the

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way, voice dictation first, but
I was saying man is fear. That

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seems pretty congruent with what
y'all are talking about. Always

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trying to dictate manosphere and
it says manosphere I was funny.

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One more thing I've discovered
that y'all is probably the most

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inclusive pronoun there is thank
God I grew up in the South

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01:32:26,400 --> 01:32:30,060
y'all. Yeah, I guess it is. As
long as you say. That's a very

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01:32:30,060 --> 01:32:34,200
good point. I love it. There's
Chad Pharaoh with 20,000 SATs

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01:32:34,200 --> 01:32:37,560
thanks Chad sir WAGs does this
thing actually work? He says and

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gives us 15,033 made this
podcast never be sponsored by

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Macy's says Eric p with 15,000
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that Auburn citadel with another
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Brian mossy 10,000 Keep the
fantastic material coming. Are

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you guys just stacking SATs like
podcasting? 2.0 or either mo

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01:33:09,540 --> 01:33:12,750
Adam drawing down just trying to
decide if boosting supports Mo

1457
01:33:12,750 --> 01:33:18,630
and fam or if he needs some Fiat
fun coupons as well? Well, we do

1458
01:33:18,630 --> 01:33:23,310
consider the boost to be the
retirement plan. Yes. So I leave

1459
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that up to you if you would
prefer people to send Fiat at

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because we're not drawing down
that's for sure. No. So

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it's all designed to me.

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Okay, there you go.

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Value is value right? How you
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but boosting the dip is a good
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for value episode 82 lover of
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WAGs roundy needed to see how
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doing a demo for 5000 SATs to
show Roger round. Yeah, I love

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that everyone helping each other
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last boot boost went through,
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Mossad's for mo facts. One of
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Those are our booster grams.
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just getting into it, you might
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01:34:34,499 --> 01:34:38,579
you all so much again, for
supporting episode 83 of Mo

1479
01:34:38,579 --> 01:34:42,209
facts with Adam curry. We could
not do it without you. And we

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can't do it without you. So keep
that comment. We'll thank the

1481
01:34:44,429 --> 01:34:48,479
rest of our donors in our second
segment. Actually, I should

1482
01:34:48,479 --> 01:34:54,179
mention mo fax.com directly to
our donation page mo fund me.com

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mou fu nd me.com

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All right. So we're I have to
look at the agenda that's been

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01:35:02,790 --> 01:35:10,440
going on. And I say that we're
purposely to run gay and black

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01:35:10,440 --> 01:35:14,310
together. And to do that, we got
to go back to show eight. Once

1487
01:35:14,310 --> 01:35:18,720
again, this is Michael Eric
Dyson, the worst salad man set

1488
01:35:18,720 --> 01:35:23,640
himself. And this is where he
was pushing is gay, the new

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black.

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I understand the tensions on
both sides, you know, black

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01:35:28,500 --> 01:35:32,730
folks that can we have some? Can
we get something as ours? And

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01:35:32,730 --> 01:35:36,330
nobody appropriate alternative
jazz? Can we keep the civil

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01:35:36,330 --> 01:35:41,430
rights? Everybody ain't black.
Now, here's, here's the thing

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01:35:41,430 --> 01:35:43,980
that I think a lot of black
people miss, is that it's real

1495
01:35:43,980 --> 01:35:46,200
flattery for people to try to
compare themselves to black

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01:35:46,200 --> 01:35:49,590
people. You know, hey, we want
to be black. We're down like

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01:35:49,590 --> 01:35:51,960
them. It's an insult to a lot of
black people like, hey, it's the

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01:35:51,960 --> 01:35:55,980
same thing. Go dog. So slow down
with that. What's interesting to

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me, though, is that many African
American people forget that the

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01:35:59,700 --> 01:36:03,180
Civil Rights Movement itself was
borrowed, right, then then pay

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01:36:03,180 --> 01:36:07,260
some some royalties to Mahatma
Gandhi. Because that's where

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King got it.

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01:36:09,150 --> 01:36:16,620
Okay. So this is when they
started rebranding and trying to

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01:36:16,650 --> 01:36:21,390
work the intersectionality.
Because, as some people may

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01:36:21,390 --> 01:36:29,280
know, the fact that black people
are more religious people by

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01:36:30,150 --> 01:36:38,220
percentage, there is some
apprehension about accepting

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01:36:38,250 --> 01:36:40,650
gay. So

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01:36:43,530 --> 01:36:47,880
can I put it another way? Yes.
From the outside. The view is

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01:36:47,910 --> 01:36:51,810
the culture of black men. If
they're not gay, is this shut up

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01:36:51,810 --> 01:36:52,680
about being gay?

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And the reason why I'm in there
soon. Well, let's go ahead and

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01:36:59,400 --> 01:36:59,940
talk about it.

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01:37:00,090 --> 01:37:06,390
Do we might as well, yeah. So
hold on, hold on. Let me make

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01:37:06,390 --> 01:37:09,450
sure no one else here next door.
No one hears this shit.

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01:37:09,540 --> 01:37:13,350
Right. So you said at the
beginning of the show, you

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01:37:13,350 --> 01:37:17,190
brought up lynching, yes, where
there was a specific form of

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01:37:17,190 --> 01:37:24,900
lynching called breaking where
they would take the biggest,

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01:37:25,350 --> 01:37:31,260
strongest slave and write them
in front of everybody. And that

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01:37:31,290 --> 01:37:37,680
this case, or this situation
with Andrew Gilliam had a new

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01:37:37,680 --> 01:37:42,990
window to that. And that is
where some of the apprehension

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01:37:43,590 --> 01:37:50,190
of being associated with gay and
black for black men, especially

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01:37:51,150 --> 01:37:57,480
when it involves white men. You
know, by it has a real eye,

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01:37:58,080 --> 01:38:01,950
like, oh, okay, now what was
that? What was that called? It's

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called Book breaking,

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01:38:03,030 --> 01:38:06,270
but breaking book breaking,

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but bank, like a book like
large?

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We know. And I'm glad you
brought this up, because I had

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no idea. This is a very
important history. This is very

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01:38:18,990 --> 01:38:22,050
important historical context.
Because I've always wondered,

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01:38:22,050 --> 01:38:25,290
you know, what's the problem?
Okay, I see. So if this was

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something that was done by white
men to black men to break the

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01:38:28,440 --> 01:38:31,980
buck, the biggest the strongest
slave with anal rape is what

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01:38:31,980 --> 01:38:37,950
you're telling me? Yes. I can
see how that image alone. Just

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01:38:37,950 --> 01:38:41,190
the image alone in your mind
would be totally triggering

1535
01:38:41,190 --> 01:38:46,410
super triggering. Right? Because
this damn, I never knew about

1536
01:38:46,410 --> 01:38:47,670
this. Yeah. So and

1537
01:38:47,670 --> 01:38:52,770
that's and Andrew Gilliam being
a large man. It even played into

1538
01:38:52,770 --> 01:38:58,410
that more. Wow. Yes. And so
that's where some of the

1539
01:38:58,410 --> 01:39:00,630
apprehension like I say it's
related some some of his

1540
01:39:00,630 --> 01:39:04,470
religion. It's very, it's a very
multi,

1541
01:39:05,009 --> 01:39:07,919
multiple factors, multiple multi
triggering, you know,

1542
01:39:08,040 --> 01:39:11,910
it can be either, you know, like
I said before about breaking it

1543
01:39:11,910 --> 01:39:17,850
could be pushed back due to
religion and faith. So, yeah, so

1544
01:39:17,850 --> 01:39:25,560
that that's part of it. And so,
the LGBT community had to Willow

1545
01:39:25,560 --> 01:39:29,250
Willow away at this
apprehension. And this is one of

1546
01:39:29,250 --> 01:39:34,680
the format's is this gay, the
New Black. Gotcha. And it also

1547
01:39:34,680 --> 01:39:38,130
feeds into the
intersectionality. That also

1548
01:39:38,130 --> 01:39:42,030
comes up to say well we have
shared experiences

1549
01:39:42,150 --> 01:39:45,480
Okay. Told us Are we good? Can I
open the door again? Yes,

1550
01:39:45,480 --> 01:39:50,220
police. Hey, everybody, just
little stuff behind the door.

1551
01:39:50,250 --> 01:39:51,240
Don't worry about it. Glad we

1552
01:39:51,240 --> 01:39:52,320
got that away. So

1553
01:39:53,730 --> 01:39:55,440
took care of that. Yeah.

1554
01:39:55,469 --> 01:40:01,139
So now you have micro Eric Dyson
is pushing this thinking and to

1555
01:40:01,139 --> 01:40:05,309
do that he's actually tearing
away at Martin Luther King

1556
01:40:05,309 --> 01:40:09,689
saying, well it's borrow from
Mahatma Gandhi, who Gandhi was a

1557
01:40:09,689 --> 01:40:14,309
huge racist himself. Go look at
some of his earlier work in

1558
01:40:14,339 --> 01:40:18,119
South Africa. Yeah, so that was
like, Okay, well King Mo hot

1559
01:40:18,119 --> 01:40:21,089
maganda was he not aware of what
Gandhi we talked about? I think

1560
01:40:21,089 --> 01:40:24,389
I'll show eight. But let's fast
forward and listen to the second

1561
01:40:24,389 --> 01:40:28,469
clip on Michael Eric Dyson
making the sale to you know, for

1562
01:40:28,469 --> 01:40:29,429
intersectionality

1563
01:40:29,940 --> 01:40:33,480
I think that gay black gay
people do black people a favor

1564
01:40:33,480 --> 01:40:36,630
and first of all, let's what are
we forgetting here? Some gay

1565
01:40:36,630 --> 01:40:42,420
people happen to be black? It is
not like they told them Oh,

1566
01:40:42,450 --> 01:40:44,460
you're gay. You don't have to go
to the bank. Stay upfront with

1567
01:40:44,460 --> 01:40:52,980
us. Because you're looking awful
delicious today. Damn. You go to

1568
01:40:52,980 --> 01:40:54,450
the head of the bus.

1569
01:40:54,570 --> 01:40:55,560
Oh, man.

1570
01:40:57,030 --> 01:41:01,080
I don't make the news. I'm just
recording right here. They ain't

1571
01:41:01,080 --> 01:41:05,550
got no exemption. James Baldwin
spoke for black people as a

1572
01:41:05,550 --> 01:41:11,400
black gay man. Barbara Smith
now, Audra Lorda. without buying

1573
01:41:11,400 --> 01:41:14,370
Ruston, straight black people
would never enjoy the rights

1574
01:41:14,370 --> 01:41:18,660
they enjoy now. Adam Clayton
Powell called Martin Luther King

1575
01:41:18,660 --> 01:41:22,110
Jr. up and said, I'm going to
tell a lie. That you invited

1576
01:41:22,110 --> 01:41:27,120
Russ in the heaven and affair if
you don't put him out

1577
01:41:28,260 --> 01:41:30,930
the weight. Wasn't that true?

1578
01:41:32,070 --> 01:41:33,840
What by our restaurant King?

1579
01:41:33,870 --> 01:41:35,430
Yeah. Well, I

1580
01:41:35,430 --> 01:41:37,800
don't know about the
relationship. The fact that he

1581
01:41:37,800 --> 01:41:41,190
was gay. He was super gay.
That's why they are open gate.

1582
01:41:42,810 --> 01:41:45,000
I'm sorry, that said he was
super gay.

1583
01:41:45,480 --> 01:41:49,050
Know what I mean, for this
house? I mean, for the times to

1584
01:41:49,050 --> 01:41:52,680
be that open and to be black?
Yeah. I mean, you could, you

1585
01:41:52,680 --> 01:41:57,480
could classify him as that
because and that's what Adam

1586
01:41:57,480 --> 01:42:01,290
Clayton Powell didn't like, and
that's why they are wrestling

1587
01:42:01,290 --> 01:42:05,250
had to play the shadows. Right,
because like, whoa, you can't be

1588
01:42:05,250 --> 01:42:10,380
Reverend Dr. Reverend Martin
Luther King, Jr. Reverend. And

1589
01:42:10,380 --> 01:42:13,890
hanging out with an openly gay
man who you know, has some

1590
01:42:13,890 --> 01:42:15,480
nefarious dealings himself.

1591
01:42:15,540 --> 01:42:18,900
And if, if I recall correctly
from Episode Eight, it's been a

1592
01:42:18,900 --> 01:42:23,730
while. It was really him who had
a lot of the ideas and Martin

1593
01:42:23,730 --> 01:42:26,160
Luther King was the one who
brought that to the people.

1594
01:42:26,730 --> 01:42:27,270
Yeah, he

1595
01:42:27,270 --> 01:42:37,650
was more of the speaker. Right.
But they are wrestling was the

1596
01:42:37,680 --> 01:42:41,130
he had the communist ties.
Right. A lot of this came from a

1597
01:42:41,130 --> 01:42:43,950
Philip Randolph. I mean, he was
playing in March and Washington

1598
01:42:43,950 --> 01:42:48,510
way before then. But that's
where you know, adequate power

1599
01:42:48,510 --> 01:42:53,640
was aware like you can't be a
reverend. And piling around

1600
01:42:53,640 --> 01:42:57,360
because it's the hurt our
movement. That that was the you

1601
01:42:57,360 --> 01:43:00,480
know, what he was trying to do?
Because he was the threat I got

1602
01:43:00,480 --> 01:43:07,290
it for the imminent Santa Monica
60s. So this is where I found

1603
01:43:07,830 --> 01:43:11,520
another interesting point with
the Gilliam case, because in a

1604
01:43:11,520 --> 01:43:17,370
time 2018 That's why I say it
was more of a feature for him to

1605
01:43:17,370 --> 01:43:21,480
come out and blah Oh yeah, I'm
gay. As well as well as a black

1606
01:43:21,480 --> 01:43:25,080
man and you know, the youngest
politician to do x y and

1607
01:43:25,080 --> 01:43:27,840
right it should have it should
have been adjudged another great

1608
01:43:27,840 --> 01:43:29,040
box to check off.

1609
01:43:29,849 --> 01:43:34,409
Right but the way they had to
play it was totally different in

1610
01:43:34,409 --> 01:43:40,529
the US spec and this is former
star rising star democratic

1611
01:43:40,559 --> 01:43:43,259
excuse me, former rising
democratic star speaks out this

1612
01:43:43,259 --> 01:43:45,689
is from Good Morning America.
Back now

1613
01:43:45,690 --> 01:43:48,390
Tamron Hall and your exclusive
interview with Andrew Gillum.

1614
01:43:48,420 --> 01:43:50,940
The Democratic rising stars
career came to an abrupt halt

1615
01:43:51,120 --> 01:43:53,190
when he was discovered in a
Miami hotel room with someone

1616
01:43:53,190 --> 01:43:55,890
who suffered a drug overdose.
Karen is going to join us live

1617
01:43:55,890 --> 01:43:58,530
in a moment first. Diane Macedo
has the details.

1618
01:43:58,680 --> 01:44:02,310
Wow. Nice way to put it. He was
found in a hotel room with

1619
01:44:02,310 --> 01:44:06,900
someone who suffered a drug
overdose someone. Right? Good.

1620
01:44:07,620 --> 01:44:11,910
We rented a flip Florida Blue.
He was poised to make political

1621
01:44:11,910 --> 01:44:16,140
history, the first black nominee
in a major party to run for

1622
01:44:16,140 --> 01:44:19,680
governor in Florida. A rising
star in the Democratic Party,

1623
01:44:19,710 --> 01:44:22,110
Andrew Gilliam came within
striking distance of the

1624
01:44:22,110 --> 01:44:26,250
governor's mansion during a
hotly contested race in 2018. He

1625
01:44:26,250 --> 01:44:30,030
lost a Republican Ron DeSantis
by less than half a percentage

1626
01:44:30,030 --> 01:44:30,480
point,

1627
01:44:30,630 --> 01:44:36,570
RJ and I wanted to take a moment
to congratulate Mr. DeSantis.

1628
01:44:36,630 --> 01:44:39,450
The 41 year old husband and
father was later floated as a

1629
01:44:39,450 --> 01:44:43,020
possible VP contender. But
behind the scenes, Gilliam's

1630
01:44:43,020 --> 01:44:47,070
life was unraveling in the early
hours of March 13. Police found

1631
01:44:47,070 --> 01:44:50,160
him and nev reIated. In this
Miami Beach hotel room with two

1632
01:44:50,160 --> 01:44:53,910
other men. A photo of Gillum in
a compromising position was

1633
01:44:53,910 --> 01:44:56,700
leaked for the world to see
Gillum denied ever taking

1634
01:44:56,700 --> 01:44:59,400
methamphetamines but checked
into a rehab facility for

1635
01:44:59,400 --> 01:45:01,560
treatment of AIDS. alcoholism
and depression.

1636
01:45:02,400 --> 01:45:07,380
So he was a possible VP tick
pick. Hmm. Yeah, I didn't

1637
01:45:07,380 --> 01:45:08,730
realize that make sense.

1638
01:45:09,990 --> 01:45:14,580
It makes plenty of sense. So
mine was appeared you didn't

1639
01:45:14,580 --> 01:45:19,260
catch that. They said he found
him with two other men before it

1640
01:45:19,260 --> 01:45:24,090
was him, the nurse or into other
men.

1641
01:45:24,780 --> 01:45:27,420
All right, so there's one person
is gone. Right

1642
01:45:27,450 --> 01:45:33,750
all of a sudden. How does that
happen? Maybe I'm listening too

1643
01:45:33,750 --> 01:45:34,020
much.

1644
01:45:35,160 --> 01:45:38,790
I'm with you. I mean, I'm all in
that this is a massive cover up.

1645
01:45:39,300 --> 01:45:42,600
But now it's more interesting
that he was passed and I have to

1646
01:45:42,600 --> 01:45:47,670
take ABCs word at it that he was
a potential VP pick.

1647
01:45:50,640 --> 01:45:52,410
Yes. And

1648
01:45:53,850 --> 01:45:56,490
the album is a whole nother can
of worms. I didn't even pre

1649
01:45:56,490 --> 01:46:01,230
think this you harping on? Not
harping, but, well, I'm raising

1650
01:46:01,230 --> 01:46:02,280
appointed a VP,

1651
01:46:02,280 --> 01:46:03,840
he would have been a heck of a
lot better than

1652
01:46:05,070 --> 01:46:11,670
who's exactly whose way will he
being? Yeah, he will just be the

1653
01:46:11,670 --> 01:46:12,300
COVID.

1654
01:46:13,980 --> 01:46:19,050
Will the Yeah. Nobody wanted
Kamala. So could the Coven have

1655
01:46:19,050 --> 01:46:22,020
done this to him? Hmm. They're
pretty

1656
01:46:22,049 --> 01:46:24,599
good. I didn't even I didn't
even stick stick on the VP

1657
01:46:24,599 --> 01:46:27,569
thing. Yeah. Excellent point.
Pretty powerful. Man. It

1658
01:46:27,570 --> 01:46:29,610
could be I don't know. It's
possible is

1659
01:46:29,610 --> 01:46:34,740
Why could he be in? Yeah. Wow. I
got me on that.

1660
01:46:34,740 --> 01:46:38,370
I really feel bad for Gillum.
Nah, really, he really got

1661
01:46:38,370 --> 01:46:39,180
worked over.

1662
01:46:40,020 --> 01:46:42,510
Alright, so stay, we stopped at
one. Let's get into the second

1663
01:46:42,510 --> 01:46:42,810
part.

1664
01:46:43,200 --> 01:46:46,440
Now, six months later, Andrew
Gilliam is making his first

1665
01:46:46,440 --> 01:46:49,680
television appearance, sitting
down in an exclusive interview

1666
01:46:49,680 --> 01:46:53,490
with Tamron Hall talking about
the night that changed his life.

1667
01:46:53,670 --> 01:46:56,640
What do you want people to know
about the purpose, your

1668
01:46:56,640 --> 01:46:59,070
intention? When you went to that
room?

1669
01:46:59,400 --> 01:47:05,550
I would say the reason why I
went to that room is probably no

1670
01:47:05,550 --> 01:47:10,080
different than how anybody might
communicate with someone that

1671
01:47:10,080 --> 01:47:17,910
they are in a friendship
relationship, whatever with. I

1672
01:47:17,910 --> 01:47:22,350
understand very well what people
assume about that. When that

1673
01:47:22,350 --> 01:47:27,750
photo came out. I didn't
recognize the person on the

1674
01:47:27,750 --> 01:47:35,310
floor. That was not anything
more than a person being at

1675
01:47:35,310 --> 01:47:40,020
their most vulnerable state,
unconscious, having given no

1676
01:47:40,020 --> 01:47:45,030
consent. And someone decided to
use a moment where I was

1677
01:47:45,240 --> 01:47:48,360
literally lying in my own vomit.

1678
01:47:48,900 --> 01:47:52,290
And when you first saw it, I
don't know how you're still

1679
01:47:52,290 --> 01:47:57,120
standing. I don't know how
you're still here.

1680
01:47:57,599 --> 01:48:03,269
I'm still here by the grace of
God. So much of my recovery has

1681
01:48:03,269 --> 01:48:08,129
been about trying to get over
shame. Shame is not that I did

1682
01:48:08,129 --> 01:48:09,449
that, but I am bad.

1683
01:48:09,510 --> 01:48:12,180
And Gillum also credits therapy
with getting him to a better

1684
01:48:12,180 --> 01:48:15,420
place as well as his wife was
also sitting down with Tamron

1685
01:48:15,420 --> 01:48:15,750
Hall.

1686
01:48:16,050 --> 01:48:17,430
How long ago did this come up?

1687
01:48:18,570 --> 01:48:22,350
This came out the following
year. I mean, the following few

1688
01:48:22,350 --> 01:48:26,190
months, he went in rehab, okay,
and then he came out. And then

1689
01:48:27,600 --> 01:48:31,170
Tamra Hall got an exclusive
interview with him. But it's

1690
01:48:31,170 --> 01:48:35,220
something I found very
interesting when he says he was

1691
01:48:35,220 --> 01:48:39,330
laid out the image sorry, I
said, that's that book breaking

1692
01:48:39,540 --> 01:48:47,190
imagery. You know, and then he
says that, how did he put it? He

1693
01:48:47,190 --> 01:48:51,960
says, like somebody did it to
him. The way he's talking like

1694
01:48:51,990 --> 01:48:55,110
he said, I got drunk or high or
whatever, and passed out

1695
01:48:55,140 --> 01:48:57,060
know what he's ultimately
because he's at the end. He's

1696
01:48:57,060 --> 01:48:59,160
kind of saying, Well, I'm bad,
though. You know, I'm bad even

1697
01:48:59,190 --> 01:49:01,680
it's kind of like, you know, I
couldn't really help what

1698
01:49:01,680 --> 01:49:02,460
happened here

1699
01:49:03,750 --> 01:49:07,230
in a way and he said, I went to
talk to no one more like when

1700
01:49:07,230 --> 01:49:10,770
you go talk to a person. Now, I
gotta push back on that because

1701
01:49:10,770 --> 01:49:14,160
it's like, when I go talk to my
friends, I don't end up you

1702
01:49:14,160 --> 01:49:18,090
know, facedown on my vomit.
Excuse me for being not on a

1703
01:49:18,090 --> 01:49:21,870
weekday. Yeah, it will say like,
No, we're gonna play that game.

1704
01:49:21,870 --> 01:49:25,710
But if somebody did this to you,
then you need to come out and

1705
01:49:25,710 --> 01:49:29,400
say it and the reason why I
played the micro Dyson's clue

1706
01:49:29,430 --> 01:49:33,090
first was this is him holding
the lie.

1707
01:49:34,710 --> 01:49:38,040
They say they saved this ass and
he's he's toeing the line for

1708
01:49:38,040 --> 01:49:38,430
sure.

1709
01:49:38,940 --> 01:49:43,410
Right and he has to not hold the
party line of every you know of

1710
01:49:44,010 --> 01:49:48,270
everything is fine. There's not
they made a bigger deal than it

1711
01:49:48,270 --> 01:49:53,280
was made out of it. But I just
the way I don't recognize that

1712
01:49:53,280 --> 01:49:59,100
person. He's using all this like
coded language that found is

1713
01:49:59,130 --> 01:50:03,000
strange and how He described a
situation. And then he's like,

1714
01:50:03,030 --> 01:50:07,470
I'm not bad. I did bad. Like,
you know, that's that speaking

1715
01:50:07,470 --> 01:50:11,760
to the, to the gay part of it,
or the bisexual part of it. So

1716
01:50:13,050 --> 01:50:17,580
he is somebody I sat down with
him, of course and CO pushed him

1717
01:50:17,580 --> 01:50:19,770
on the talking point. Yeah,
because he really didn't take

1718
01:50:19,770 --> 01:50:25,470
any blame for it. But I still
think I think there's a strong

1719
01:50:25,470 --> 01:50:31,500
possibility that he was a victim
of some kind of setup. Um, yeah.

1720
01:50:32,910 --> 01:50:35,430
Yeah, so I guess we can get to
part three.

1721
01:50:36,030 --> 01:50:38,250
Okay, Dan, thanks very much.
Let's bring in Tamron Hall right

1722
01:50:38,250 --> 01:50:41,760
now to record an interview right
there. We hear Andrew Gillum

1723
01:50:41,760 --> 01:50:43,770
talking about his recovery
there. What does he say happened

1724
01:50:43,770 --> 01:50:44,430
in that room?

1725
01:50:45,000 --> 01:50:48,210
I mean, he goes into limited
details about the event because

1726
01:50:48,210 --> 01:50:51,810
there was someone else in the
room. But he does George open up

1727
01:50:51,840 --> 01:50:54,930
very candidly about what he says
was the spiral of his life after

1728
01:50:54,930 --> 01:50:58,350
he lost that gubernatorial race,
the impact that it had on his

1729
01:50:58,350 --> 01:51:01,980
marriage, his wife, RJ will join
us as well. He's a father of

1730
01:51:01,980 --> 01:51:04,980
three, he doesn't skirt around
it. As you know, you've done

1731
01:51:04,980 --> 01:51:07,890
these types of interviews. It's
uncomfortable to have someone

1732
01:51:07,890 --> 01:51:12,510
with their loved one present,
tell the sort of details of what

1733
01:51:12,510 --> 01:51:15,810
went on. But he goes, there we
go there. There were no rules to

1734
01:51:15,810 --> 01:51:22,800
this. It was more about a raw,
real interview that he provided.

1735
01:51:22,800 --> 01:51:26,160
And I think it will be one of
the most compelling things that

1736
01:51:26,160 --> 01:51:27,060
people will see.

1737
01:51:29,370 --> 01:51:32,550
What she did a heck of a sales.
Oh, great.

1738
01:51:33,450 --> 01:51:36,300
Well, the first thing that
struck me is wow, that's a total

1739
01:51:36,300 --> 01:51:41,580
replay of a Bill Clinton,
Hillary Clinton sitting on the

1740
01:51:41,580 --> 01:51:46,770
couch. You know, which I find
disgusting. Remember when that

1741
01:51:46,770 --> 01:51:49,530
lamp came down, and she ends
like he's like I'm telling the

1742
01:51:49,530 --> 01:51:52,500
truth, and they're all telling
the truth. And then this light

1743
01:51:52,500 --> 01:51:56,700
comes crashing down, like God
struck it. I forgot about the

1744
01:51:56,970 --> 01:51:59,970
moment. It's a great moment in
broadcast history.

1745
01:52:00,300 --> 01:52:05,370
But what I find disgusting is
when these politicians roll

1746
01:52:05,370 --> 01:52:07,890
their spouse out as like a prop.

1747
01:52:07,920 --> 01:52:10,830
Well, you need to I mean, so he
was still in the game. If you're

1748
01:52:10,830 --> 01:52:12,900
not in the game, you don't do
it. But if you're in the game,

1749
01:52:13,170 --> 01:52:16,980
that's that's she also makes
sacrifices

1750
01:52:17,309 --> 01:52:20,759
in it. Also, it's not just
limited politics as well. It's

1751
01:52:20,759 --> 01:52:24,389
also everything Yeah, makes his
way to celebrities and even

1752
01:52:24,599 --> 01:52:30,329
content creators. We saw this
with Derek Jackson, who was the

1753
01:52:30,329 --> 01:52:34,679
Kevin Samuels nemesis. He got
caught up. And he had to bring

1754
01:52:34,679 --> 01:52:38,939
his wife out and sit her beside
him. So this is, this is what

1755
01:52:38,939 --> 01:52:44,999
they call it. Damage Control.
101. Yep. He's like, you gotta

1756
01:52:44,999 --> 01:52:49,559
get the spouse that, you know,
Kobe Bryant did the best. He ate

1757
01:52:49,559 --> 01:52:52,349
me $1 Ray, he was like, you're
gonna be here beside me.

1758
01:52:54,180 --> 01:52:58,020
$8 million. So that'll do it.
Yeah, that'll keep me loyal.

1759
01:52:59,370 --> 01:53:03,450
Yeah, so I guess we can get to
part four. Now.

1760
01:53:03,809 --> 01:53:05,999
What's the future hold for him
at this point?

1761
01:53:06,450 --> 01:53:10,230
You know, that's, that's the
question. Will voters hear his

1762
01:53:10,230 --> 01:53:14,460
explanation and accept it? I'm
not sure if he wants to reenter

1763
01:53:14,460 --> 01:53:17,520
the political world. But you
know, politics, TV, people get

1764
01:53:17,520 --> 01:53:21,510
addicted to it for various
reasons. And I do believe he

1765
01:53:21,510 --> 01:53:26,430
wants to, in some way have his
voice heard you. You know, he

1766
01:53:26,430 --> 01:53:29,520
was the youngest elected
official African American in

1767
01:53:29,520 --> 01:53:32,220
Florida's history. At 23 years
old. He was an elected official.

1768
01:53:32,490 --> 01:53:36,150
He believes this is his calling.
But this fall from grace,

1769
01:53:36,660 --> 01:53:41,130
certainly counters that I think
his wife has been a great

1770
01:53:41,130 --> 01:53:45,390
protector and supporter and what
she reveals about their

1771
01:53:45,390 --> 01:53:50,850
relationship. And his rise to
political fame is also something

1772
01:53:50,970 --> 01:53:54,180
that in my 30 years of being a
journalist, I've not heard from

1773
01:53:54,180 --> 01:53:57,150
a political spouse. So it is
compelling. It's a part of our

1774
01:53:57,150 --> 01:54:01,230
season two premiere of a huge
week of explosive interviews

1775
01:54:01,230 --> 01:54:05,550
where we come to the table and
we say this is about living your

1776
01:54:05,550 --> 01:54:09,090
life not defending your life,
but most important to us on this

1777
01:54:09,090 --> 01:54:10,560
show. Let's talk about it.

1778
01:54:10,799 --> 01:54:13,889
Wow, it sounds really compelling
as you said, Tamarin thanks very

1779
01:54:13,889 --> 01:54:16,529
much. Good luck on the new
season also happy birthday this

1780
01:54:16,529 --> 01:54:16,859
week.

1781
01:54:16,889 --> 01:54:18,359
Wow. Thanks, George.

1782
01:54:18,990 --> 01:54:19,980
Can we get our biscuit

1783
01:54:21,390 --> 01:54:24,420
they always give me a biscuit on
my birthday. Sure.

1784
01:54:24,900 --> 01:54:31,350
Happy birthday. Oh, so live
you're not life? How she put it

1785
01:54:31,350 --> 01:54:35,880
live your life not No, I don't
think it was more it wasn't it

1786
01:54:35,880 --> 01:54:40,770
was it was it seemed like it was
a fair line is right at the end.

1787
01:54:40,770 --> 01:54:42,660
Let's hear it one more time.
Sure.

1788
01:54:44,940 --> 01:54:47,520
What's the future hold for
ruining your life but most

1789
01:54:47,520 --> 01:54:50,910
important to the table and we
say this is about living your

1790
01:54:50,910 --> 01:54:53,880
life not defending your life but
most important to

1791
01:54:55,740 --> 01:54:58,980
your life not defending either
the gay the gay thing?

1792
01:54:59,429 --> 01:55:04,469
Yes. Hmm, so his wife and him,
they do something I've never

1793
01:55:04,469 --> 01:55:08,609
seen before. And they as
tamarind said, in 30 years she

1794
01:55:08,609 --> 01:55:16,709
hadn't seen it. They take a
unique angle on this. Yeah,

1795
01:55:16,709 --> 01:55:18,449
anything he wants to say before
we get into No,

1796
01:55:18,450 --> 01:55:23,400
no. I'm ready for the unique
angle 26.

1797
01:55:23,490 --> 01:55:29,160
The truth is, is that Tamron
every one believes the absolute

1798
01:55:29,160 --> 01:55:33,720
worst about that day. At this
stage, I don't have anything

1799
01:55:33,750 --> 01:55:40,080
else to have to conceal. I
literally got broken down to my

1800
01:55:40,080 --> 01:55:44,610
most bare place to the place
where I wasn't even sure that I

1801
01:55:44,610 --> 01:55:46,860
want to live broken. I

1802
01:55:46,860 --> 01:55:50,370
heard it now. Very bare place.
Yeah,

1803
01:55:50,400 --> 01:55:55,950
yeah. Wow, Buck break right
there. Do you think you think

1804
01:55:55,950 --> 01:55:57,180
he's signaling that? Or is that

1805
01:55:59,160 --> 01:56:05,580
to, I literally get broken down
to my most bare place, to the

1806
01:56:05,580 --> 01:56:09,810
place where I wasn't even sure
that I wanted to live not

1807
01:56:09,810 --> 01:56:12,360
because of what I had done. But
because of everything that was

1808
01:56:12,360 --> 01:56:17,070
being said about me. What was
most hurtful was this belief

1809
01:56:17,070 --> 01:56:23,280
that I was somehow living a lie
in my marriage and in my family.

1810
01:56:25,080 --> 01:56:29,220
That was the most hurtful to me,
because I believe we're all

1811
01:56:29,220 --> 01:56:33,090
entitled to mistakes. And I
believe we're entitled to those

1812
01:56:33,090 --> 01:56:37,860
mistakes without having every
other respectable and redeeming

1813
01:56:37,860 --> 01:56:44,460
part of our lives and validated.
And I felt like the love that I

1814
01:56:44,460 --> 01:56:51,930
have between my wife and I, my
family, but most important, the

1815
01:56:52,350 --> 01:56:57,120
authenticity that I tried to
lead with was all in question at

1816
01:56:57,120 --> 01:57:00,450
this point. And not even in
question anymore. Something else

1817
01:57:00,450 --> 01:57:04,890
had been assumed by that. And to
be very honest with you, when

1818
01:57:04,890 --> 01:57:08,940
you didn't ask the question. You
put it out there is whether or

1819
01:57:08,940 --> 01:57:12,390
not identify as gay and the
answer is I don't identify as

1820
01:57:12,390 --> 01:57:16,560
gay, but I do identify as
bisexual. And that is something

1821
01:57:16,560 --> 01:57:18,750
that I have never shared
publicly

1822
01:57:18,780 --> 01:57:19,560
before.

1823
01:57:21,480 --> 01:57:24,690
Okay, he should get the monkey
pox vaccine.

1824
01:57:25,259 --> 01:57:30,839
Never seen that done before in
politics. And I think he had to

1825
01:57:30,839 --> 01:57:38,909
do that to salvage his political
career. Oh, he's not gay, or not

1826
01:57:38,909 --> 01:57:45,119
bisexual. That he appears as a
closeted self hating gay man.

1827
01:57:45,179 --> 01:57:49,619
Right? So what he's what he's
saying here is yeah, I'm

1828
01:57:49,619 --> 01:57:52,499
bisexual. I just knew I didn't
hang it up on from the highest

1829
01:57:52,499 --> 01:57:57,599
tree and you know, it's like is
what it is? To correct. Did his

1830
01:57:57,599 --> 01:58:00,089
wife say anything about that?
Did she have any? Was there any

1831
01:58:00,089 --> 01:58:01,109
questioning of her?

1832
01:58:01,560 --> 01:58:05,190
She did say she knew and he told
her beforehand. They got

1833
01:58:05,190 --> 01:58:12,180
married. Okay, wish there this
big push now? Should black women

1834
01:58:12,450 --> 01:58:17,280
cuz we talked about last time
that there's a perceived and

1835
01:58:17,280 --> 01:58:21,810
maybe even real, a shortage of
men quality man. I mean, you how

1836
01:58:21,810 --> 01:58:25,890
you call, how you qualify
quality, you know? So should

1837
01:58:25,920 --> 01:58:32,280
Black women consider marrying
bisexual men? And it was a push

1838
01:58:32,280 --> 01:58:36,780
back against that like, No, we
shouldn't. And that goes to say

1839
01:58:37,200 --> 01:58:46,500
the grassroots are not reacting
the way the leadership expects

1840
01:58:46,530 --> 01:58:49,890
or how the leadership has
promised right. And that's why I

1841
01:58:49,890 --> 01:58:53,040
was saying maybe this is the
cleaning up of all the old

1842
01:58:53,040 --> 01:58:55,320
politicians because they're
seeing being seen as

1843
01:58:55,320 --> 01:59:00,330
ineffective. It's time to change
because these new these ideas

1844
01:59:00,330 --> 01:59:04,830
you'd like wit row, we saw that
reaction. Yeah. With the crime.

1845
01:59:04,860 --> 01:59:10,170
We're seeing. unexpected
reaction there. Now we got to be

1846
01:59:10,170 --> 01:59:15,270
careful that because it's a
crime bill 1.0 started, but is

1847
01:59:16,230 --> 01:59:20,310
conservative views are being
more accepted with the

1848
01:59:20,310 --> 01:59:23,700
grassroots. And so

1849
01:59:24,150 --> 01:59:26,970
Oh, I see what you're saying the
marketing problem.

1850
01:59:27,690 --> 01:59:34,200
Yeah, it's a very I mean, the
the group thing is weakening.

1851
01:59:34,560 --> 01:59:38,790
And I have to say that's due to
warmth because of social media.

1852
01:59:39,240 --> 01:59:44,490
Super clips. Yeah. Shows like
this. When people go with show

1853
01:59:44,490 --> 01:59:50,670
Oh, this is a game this is a
scam. This is a sale, that

1854
01:59:50,670 --> 01:59:53,040
they're trying to keep you
herded into a certain type of

1855
01:59:53,070 --> 01:59:56,790
type of mentality. And this is
really speaks to the

1856
01:59:56,820 --> 01:59:59,940
ineffectiveness of the
mainstream media, which is the

1857
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:02,040
The propaganda machine Yeah.

1858
02:00:02,880 --> 02:00:07,800
Wow. I'm so glad you're doing
all this because it really went

1859
02:00:07,800 --> 02:00:10,800
by me and it wouldn't have. I
mean, there's so much depth to

1860
02:00:10,800 --> 02:00:15,060
it because he's black that I was
unaware of is really an

1861
02:00:15,060 --> 02:00:16,050
interesting case.

1862
02:00:16,560 --> 02:00:20,550
Yeah. And the fact that once
again, he played he's playing

1863
02:00:20,550 --> 02:00:23,940
ball. There's no need to
detonate him at this point. I've

1864
02:00:23,940 --> 02:00:28,230
haven't heard anything. Come out
of bisexuals. Good. Okay,

1865
02:00:28,260 --> 02:00:31,890
no need to detonate. I like
that. It doesn't

1866
02:00:31,890 --> 02:00:36,120
make any. That's what baffled me
and I had to see to see what's

1867
02:00:36,120 --> 02:00:39,870
going on here. So now we get to
speak to his wife and 27

1868
02:00:40,350 --> 02:00:44,880
when you saw that picture, where
were you?

1869
02:00:45,330 --> 02:00:50,370
I was at home alone. I was. And
I knew something was wrong,

1870
02:00:50,370 --> 02:00:54,630
because a number of friends had
reached out to do that. I'm just

1871
02:00:54,630 --> 02:01:02,880
checking on you. Because it was
hard to see. My husband the

1872
02:01:02,880 --> 02:01:09,540
strongest man I know. It was
hard to see

1873
02:01:15,390 --> 02:01:22,020
what did you see in that photo?
Um,

1874
02:01:24,780 --> 02:01:33,930
he was helpless. Honestly, I got
angry that he was being taken

1875
02:01:33,930 --> 02:01:36,660
advantage of in a way that was
unfair.

1876
02:01:37,980 --> 02:01:42,780
I thought that whole situation
if it had happened to a woman,

1877
02:01:42,840 --> 02:01:47,220
it would be a very different
narrative, meaning if anyone had

1878
02:01:47,220 --> 02:01:49,920
a tablet with a woman lying
naked on the floor with the

1879
02:01:49,920 --> 02:01:53,280
pictures have even made it out.
It would have been criminal.

1880
02:01:55,320 --> 02:01:56,520
Hmm,

1881
02:01:56,549 --> 02:02:00,209
great point. And I just looked
at the pictures and put them in

1882
02:02:00,209 --> 02:02:03,719
the show notes. Man, this is a
bunch of phony baloney stuff.

1883
02:02:03,779 --> 02:02:07,019
You see that? So the pills,
there's a next to the bed pill

1884
02:02:07,019 --> 02:02:11,339
bottle on the bed. And all the
pills are in a little bunch next

1885
02:02:11,339 --> 02:02:13,649
to it. But the pill bottle is up
straight. I mean, it looks

1886
02:02:13,649 --> 02:02:18,929
really staged. And also, I'm
thinking on that anyway. Yes. We

1887
02:02:18,929 --> 02:02:19,139
don't

1888
02:02:19,830 --> 02:02:22,950
mind that. You say that now,
because I didn't get that deep

1889
02:02:22,950 --> 02:02:25,770
into it. But when I first heard
about the story, it made me

1890
02:02:25,770 --> 02:02:29,310
think of the movie ricochet. I
haven't with I haven't seen with

1891
02:02:29,340 --> 02:02:33,360
Denzel Washington. Another way
he was gonna come in, right.

1892
02:02:33,390 --> 02:02:36,000
It's Oh, it's one of his earlier
films. Oh,

1893
02:02:36,030 --> 02:02:39,720
I think I have seen it. Yeah.
And I keep forgetting the

1894
02:02:39,720 --> 02:02:43,530
guy who he shot. But he shot
this white supremacist. And the

1895
02:02:43,530 --> 02:02:47,400
guy was hell bent on ruining his
life after that. And they set

1896
02:02:47,400 --> 02:02:54,090
him up with a prostitute. And
like said They drugged them took

1897
02:02:54,090 --> 02:02:58,080
pictures of him. Right, right,
right. Yeah, all these were

1898
02:02:58,080 --> 02:03:00,300
saying all these different
things. And that's what came to

1899
02:03:00,300 --> 02:03:04,740
mind. As you were saying that,
and then when I first heard his

1900
02:03:04,740 --> 02:03:08,670
story, like, Is this is this a
setup? Because he, um, be honest

1901
02:03:08,670 --> 02:03:12,000
with he doesn't seem like a meth
user to me. Well, I

1902
02:03:12,300 --> 02:03:15,960
also know he doesn't. And I
think that if if you are a meth

1903
02:03:15,960 --> 02:03:21,360
user, you add on the throwing up
thing is, to me is more

1904
02:03:21,390 --> 02:03:23,820
continuous that would make more
sense if he was really, really

1905
02:03:23,820 --> 02:03:27,660
drunk. Or if there were some
pills involved that he didn't

1906
02:03:27,660 --> 02:03:30,480
know he was taking. He seems
like he was an experienced,

1907
02:03:30,900 --> 02:03:34,290
experienced in some things. I
don't know. I just you know, the

1908
02:03:34,290 --> 02:03:36,900
whole beginning of this episode,
and then looking at the

1909
02:03:36,900 --> 02:03:40,950
pictures, you put it together
go. That looks pretty staged.

1910
02:03:42,180 --> 02:03:44,460
Once again, who was that fourth
person in the room?

1911
02:03:44,910 --> 02:03:47,820
I don't know. I? I have no idea.

1912
02:03:49,650 --> 02:03:53,070
So let's go ahead and and get
into 28.

1913
02:03:53,460 --> 02:04:01,590
Is that why you did not want him
to reveal that he told you long

1914
02:04:01,590 --> 02:04:04,080
before your marriage, that he
was bisexual?

1915
02:04:04,590 --> 02:04:08,550
I'm not even that he told me
just for him to have to say it.

1916
02:04:08,610 --> 02:04:12,870
I don't think it's anyone's
business. I don't think it's

1917
02:04:12,900 --> 02:04:17,880
fair to people who are not
heterosexual or not assumed

1918
02:04:17,880 --> 02:04:21,150
heterosexual that they should
ever have to say or disclose

1919
02:04:21,150 --> 02:04:26,220
what they are. Because of how
judgmental people are. I also

1920
02:04:26,220 --> 02:04:30,060
know and I think he mentioned it
to you that so many people just

1921
02:04:30,060 --> 02:04:32,910
don't understand bisexuality,
they think they can wrap their

1922
02:04:32,910 --> 02:04:37,680
heads around gay. But
bisexuality is just something

1923
02:04:37,680 --> 02:04:38,190
different.

1924
02:04:38,490 --> 02:04:43,050
How were you able to understand
it when he presented it to you

1925
02:04:43,080 --> 02:04:46,620
and then ultimately proposed and
said, but you're the one I think

1926
02:04:46,620 --> 02:04:47,820
he said he told you that I
choose

1927
02:04:47,820 --> 02:04:54,150
you right? I just believe that.
Love and sexuality exist on a

1928
02:04:54,150 --> 02:05:00,480
spectrum. All I care about is
what's between us Then What

1929
02:05:00,480 --> 02:05:03,660
agreement do we make to be in
relationship with each other?

1930
02:05:03,990 --> 02:05:09,990
I watched an interview where you
talked about God's plan. After

1931
02:05:09,990 --> 02:05:18,600
all of this, after the words of
shame directed at you, Andrew,

1932
02:05:18,600 --> 02:05:21,420
and the questions that your
children will ask when they're a

1933
02:05:21,420 --> 02:05:25,950
little older, hopefully a lot
older. We're not supposed to

1934
02:05:25,950 --> 02:05:31,230
question God's plan. But have
you questioned God's plan?

1935
02:05:31,380 --> 02:05:32,250
All the time?

1936
02:05:33,690 --> 02:05:35,880
Whoa, I got pretty deep.

1937
02:05:36,450 --> 02:05:41,880
The Yeah. Oh. Where can I start?
Because yeah,

1938
02:05:41,940 --> 02:05:44,340
I mean, here's, here's the
dichotomy. You've got, yes,

1939
02:05:44,340 --> 02:05:48,300
God's plan, but homosexuality
isn't supposed to be God's plan.

1940
02:05:48,780 --> 02:05:53,100
Right. And she also said, it
shouldn't be a person, that

1941
02:05:53,100 --> 02:05:56,490
person shouldn't have to base
out in themselves. Right? In a

1942
02:05:56,490 --> 02:06:02,130
private life. Yes. But when
you're a politician, when you're

1943
02:06:02,130 --> 02:06:05,220
going into that room and
negotiate, or you're negotiating

1944
02:06:05,220 --> 02:06:09,090
on behalf of, quote, unquote,
black people, are you saying,

1945
02:06:09,120 --> 02:06:14,850
are you negotiating for the LGBT
community? C, this was the big

1946
02:06:14,850 --> 02:06:19,620
issue with Black Lives Matter.
Because they lead with Black

1947
02:06:19,620 --> 02:06:23,460
Lives Matter. Right. But but
really, they were pushing for

1948
02:06:23,490 --> 02:06:26,730
everything but heterosexual men,
right. And as a heterosexual

1949
02:06:26,730 --> 02:06:32,190
man, which is the thorn in the
side of the Democrats right now.

1950
02:06:32,820 --> 02:06:35,910
And the people that are least
likely to go along with is a

1951
02:06:35,910 --> 02:06:40,770
much needed chunk of that black
vote. It's like, whoa, who are

1952
02:06:40,770 --> 02:06:44,490
you representing? And it's not
representing lifestyle is

1953
02:06:44,490 --> 02:06:48,000
representing somewhere in
lifestyle, because what I said

1954
02:06:48,000 --> 02:06:52,440
about what the image of that can
portray, but more or less when

1955
02:06:52,440 --> 02:06:55,200
you go into that room, and you
were in talking about

1956
02:06:55,200 --> 02:07:02,550
negotiating for funds? are you
negotiating for LGBT funds?

1957
02:07:02,610 --> 02:07:08,520
Right? Are you negotiating for
quote unquote, black funds? And

1958
02:07:08,520 --> 02:07:11,250
they do this weird trick and I
want to talk about it more on

1959
02:07:11,250 --> 02:07:15,540
the other side of it when I say
they, I'm talking about the gay

1960
02:07:15,570 --> 02:07:18,180
ink, let's just call them that.
Like we did Black Lives Matter.

1961
02:07:18,690 --> 02:07:24,030
thing. When they go in that room
who you negotiating for, because

1962
02:07:24,690 --> 02:07:28,440
they seem like one of the people
you're representing is getting a

1963
02:07:28,440 --> 02:07:34,470
lot of tangibles. But, but the
others, plank that you claim to

1964
02:07:34,470 --> 02:07:38,880
represent, is not getting any
tangible. That's why it becomes

1965
02:07:38,880 --> 02:07:39,570
important. This

1966
02:07:39,570 --> 02:07:43,500
is kind of the genesis of of
this entire podcast is you know,

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it's all lip service. And what
it really is is black America,

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please hold the door open so all
these other people can go

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through and as the alphabet
people first

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write me because it oftentimes
it can be Jewish people, it can

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be feminist, it could be
communist, you know, all kinds

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of different agendas, but we're
the person left holding the door

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is the heterosexual black male.
Yeah. And, and the fact that

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they use our image and it's miss
me, but that that was part of

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the George floor thing him laid
out like that, you know, him

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being like, I actually will lay
it out. That was that was part

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of the imagery and made it so
powerful, to for them to use for

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their promotion of other
agendas, right. So as same as

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this case. So that's why it's
important, like I say, your

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private life that's on you. But
in your in the public life and

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when you especially when you're
a politician, where you're

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negotiating for different lobby,
you're negotiating with

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different lobby lobbies, and
negotiating for different

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agendas. We need to know how
those agendas are prioritized

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when you go in that room you
know, if it's only a million

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dollars who was that mean? I was
gonna go to he's gonna go to one

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or the other a half a hat, we
need to know and when you can

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steal that. So that doesn't let
voters know you're saying what

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they're actually buying with
their vote.

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Right. So how do you what do you
feel that Gillen was doing here?

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Well, I'll answer that question
on the other side of the

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donation.

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Okay, I got you understand that
there's some people out there

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who need my services. Are there
any people out there who were

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weak people out there who are
aware

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and people out there who are

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out there who just need to hear
y'all come on down. All right,

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time to thank the rest of our
producers for this episode

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number 83 of Mo facts with Adam
curry. We are now at Tim right.

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With 4920 think it's a
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friend Andrew Chism, he would
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show so much whitest guy I know.
I didn't grow up around many

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black people or any really he
introduced me to so much good

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music a lot of which was hip hop
and rap. I purchased The

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Miseducation of Lauryn Hill on
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uplifting and illuminating Elvis
a very good album. When you're

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going to drop your first LP MO
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Will you One day One day,

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talking to his black guy last
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asking. Oh, I mentioned asking
versus axing. I told him that

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axing dates back to the 1600s or
so far as I know, he said as

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King I'm not quite sure I
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like that's how you

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asking Ah, I see as king I
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a third variation for we have a
new variation. Yeah. Well, you

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know, we deconstructed x is
actually correct. Is how he's

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how we're asking us to be axing
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the thing you'll be I think this
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that was from it was separated
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It's enlightening and yet
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facts with Adam curry.

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So, excuse me, Mr. Andrew Gillum
had a co defendant on that case.

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Oh, which it kind of just, you
know, they just kind of brushed

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over skipped over him there. Oh,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, we

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don't do that here. We don't
know. Let me do that little

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setup or miss Sharon Layton
Hicks. Sorry, Miss Sharon

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Lippmann Hicks is the person
that was also charged with him.

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Really? Yes. Well, have you ever
heard of her? No. Okay. All

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right. So Miss Shara hit me.
licks me, let me Hicks Excuse

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me. She was the CEO of the let
me I have it right here. The

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National Black Justice
Coalition.

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Oh, Riley. Yeah.

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The National Black Justice
Coalition. Its mission is to end

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racism, homophobia, LGBTQ SGL
bias and stigma That's who was

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fun and help him the money. She
will receive the money and then

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02:20:06,270 --> 02:20:10,770
she will send it to Gillum. Now
she has a very interesting past

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personal and currently when she
was arrested, this is the

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02:20:15,270 --> 02:20:20,190
Tallahassee Democrat Sharon
leadman. Hicks suspend Florida

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02:20:20,190 --> 02:20:25,380
House campaign amid federal
corruption charges. I have the

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02:20:25,380 --> 02:20:29,250
article here says Sharon Sharon
letting Hicks was arrested

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02:20:29,280 --> 02:20:32,880
Wednesday along with former
Mayor Andrew Gillum. Not not

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02:20:32,880 --> 02:20:39,540
governor. Candidate mayor, Mayor
Andrew Gillum. On the charges

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02:20:39,570 --> 02:20:44,130
they found on campaign
contributions to themselves. Is

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the spinning her campaign for
Florida House the let me Hicks

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02:20:48,450 --> 02:20:54,990
foul to run for the Eighth
District. See in on June 1, just

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days before the federal grand
jury indicted on charges of wire

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fraud and conspiracy to commit
mail fraud. I continue with the

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02:21:03,600 --> 02:21:07,800
article. She says I am
devastated by these baseless

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charges. I have been I have made
the painful decision to suspend

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02:21:12,600 --> 02:21:16,710
my campaign she said at a news
release I must now focus on

2155
02:21:16,710 --> 02:21:21,480
fighting for my continued
freedom. Let me Hicks owner of

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02:21:21,480 --> 02:21:26,430
PP PNP communications and CEO of
the National Black Justice

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02:21:26,430 --> 02:21:32,520
Coalition. She said she says she
found it stunning that the

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charges came to light just days
after she came became a viable

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candidate in the house place

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stunning What a surprise.

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Yes, she qualified to run for
the House seat last week. Now

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02:21:46,800 --> 02:21:52,380
all of a sudden, you one and we
got him being handled a bisexual

2163
02:21:52,380 --> 02:21:57,420
man being handled by the
National Black Justice Coalition

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02:21:57,450 --> 02:21:59,190
who was who was also gay?

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Yes, no, she's not gay. Yes, she
is. Is she not? Well, I

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believe so.

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In 2010, she wasn't openly gay.
Because in the clips I had, I

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don't have that clip person
specifically. But she considered

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herself. She said she didn't
like calling herself an ally.

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She hated that word. Really?
Yes. Now that makes me regret if

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02:22:23,880 --> 02:22:29,340
you have some counterpoint. But
I didn't clip that part. But yet

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I assume that she was a straight
up hearing woman.

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The way she I don't know. I
mean, I'm just I'm just

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searching. Okay. This is from
queer bio.com. Let me see. They

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said

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no, no, I'm sorry. She said she
she said she was the only

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straight person on the

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sea. Yeah, I think I'm wrong.

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which I found very interesting
that you have to be gay to work

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for that company, or that
organization. Is that Well, you

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discriminate?

2182
02:23:10,830 --> 02:23:12,780
Doesn't have to be but yeah, I
understand.

2183
02:23:13,289 --> 02:23:15,869
But the way she said it was like
that was a you know, it was a

2184
02:23:16,649 --> 02:23:19,679
requirement. What I find is she
doesn't even have a Wikipedia

2185
02:23:19,679 --> 02:23:22,409
page. Yeah, that's why we got to
get into her.

2186
02:23:22,440 --> 02:23:26,100
This is annoying. I mean, that's
as a politician. You don't have

2187
02:23:26,100 --> 02:23:28,380
a wiki page sums up that's a
very she's

2188
02:23:28,380 --> 02:23:30,750
bigger than a politician. She's
a handler.

2189
02:23:32,130 --> 02:23:36,270
This is she's Yeah, this. That's
very weird. Okay,

2190
02:23:36,300 --> 02:23:37,890
let's just go ahead and get into
30.

2191
02:23:38,310 --> 02:23:41,550
Tell me how you feel about the
Obama administration's push an

2192
02:23:41,550 --> 02:23:43,530
effort to bring equality.

2193
02:23:45,030 --> 02:23:48,120
I gotta put timeline give a
timeline for this. This is her

2194
02:23:48,150 --> 02:23:54,180
at the one nation working
together rally in 2010. And

2195
02:23:54,180 --> 02:23:55,950
she's speaking to MSNBC.
Alright.

2196
02:23:56,340 --> 02:23:59,670
How do you feel about the Obama
administration's push an effort

2197
02:23:59,670 --> 02:24:03,360
to bring equality for all across
this country? What is President

2198
02:24:03,360 --> 02:24:05,130
Obama been able to do toward
that end?

2199
02:24:06,510 --> 02:24:09,690
Honestly, the inclusion agenda
for the LGBT equality movement

2200
02:24:09,690 --> 02:24:12,780
is unbelievable. The
administrator administration has

2201
02:24:12,780 --> 02:24:15,510
been an advocate. It has
listened. It has heard our

2202
02:24:15,510 --> 02:24:18,240
concerns, it has moved the
agenda. And yes, there is

2203
02:24:18,300 --> 02:24:21,420
absolutely a lot more work to be
done. We want so many more

2204
02:24:21,420 --> 02:24:24,750
things brought into the
mainstream, that LGBT equality

2205
02:24:24,750 --> 02:24:27,630
is for all it benefits all of
our communities. But we have

2206
02:24:27,630 --> 02:24:29,850
made some significant gains,
whether it's the Family and

2207
02:24:29,850 --> 02:24:33,030
Medical Leave Act, whether it's
the passage of the hate crimes,

2208
02:24:34,020 --> 02:24:37,290
legislation, we're moving
forward with the repeal of Don't

2209
02:24:37,290 --> 02:24:40,590
Ask, Don't Tell. We are very
optimistic that one that we have

2210
02:24:40,590 --> 02:24:43,440
the ear of the President to that
the administration understands

2211
02:24:43,440 --> 02:24:46,860
the benefit of inclusion for all
the seriousness of the

2212
02:24:46,860 --> 02:24:50,160
atrocities, like the
overwhelming number of suicides

2213
02:24:50,160 --> 02:24:52,740
are the last three weeks public
education is important because

2214
02:24:52,800 --> 02:24:55,950
education must create an
environment that is safe and

2215
02:24:55,950 --> 02:24:59,370
inclusive for all children. All
right. Babies are taking their

2216
02:24:59,370 --> 02:24:59,970
own lives.

2217
02:25:00,000 --> 02:25:03,660
It is the kind of thing that is
gut wrenching for any of us to

2218
02:25:03,660 --> 02:25:06,240
see it's a it's a real problem
in this country. Sharon, let me

2219
02:25:06,270 --> 02:25:08,370
fix that. We're glad that you're
addressing issues out there

2220
02:25:08,370 --> 02:25:10,560
today on behalf of the National
Black Justice Coalition.

2221
02:25:11,730 --> 02:25:18,780
Hmm. Yeah. So she said agenda?
Yes. She said the word agenda

2222
02:25:18,780 --> 02:25:22,080
which I thought you couldn't
have a gay agenda, or that was a

2223
02:25:22,080 --> 02:25:26,550
myth. The Gay Agenda? Yeah. But
she just ran down the whole

2224
02:25:26,550 --> 02:25:30,870
list. And this is from the
Wikipedia page from the National

2225
02:25:30,870 --> 02:25:36,660
Black Justice Coalition. Today,
in 2011, the organization

2226
02:25:36,660 --> 02:25:41,070
identifies issues as it will be
focusing its programming efforts

2227
02:25:41,070 --> 02:25:46,350
on employment non non
discrimination act, marriage

2228
02:25:46,380 --> 02:25:49,830
inequality, bullying in schools,
don't ask, don't tell,

2229
02:25:50,100 --> 02:25:54,300
Historically Black Colleges and
Universities and HIV AIDS. And

2230
02:25:54,300 --> 02:25:59,460
it also had the black church
summit in 2006, where Reverend

2231
02:25:59,490 --> 02:26:03,330
Al Sharpton and denounce
homophobia and call it call for

2232
02:26:03,330 --> 02:26:07,080
greater inclusion of LGBT
people. So this is what I was

2233
02:26:07,080 --> 02:26:11,010
talking about with their agenda.
Interesting. We had a bunch of

2234
02:26:11,010 --> 02:26:13,830
black people just shot and
killed in Buffalo, and we still

2235
02:26:13,830 --> 02:26:17,820
can't get a black hate, hate
crime act. But they were pushing

2236
02:26:17,820 --> 02:26:21,840
for it. 2011. So that's what
makes me ask, Will you go in

2237
02:26:21,840 --> 02:26:27,120
that room? whose agenda are you
pushing? Right? That's the only

2238
02:26:27,120 --> 02:26:30,660
reason I'm worried about what's
your what's your how you

2239
02:26:30,660 --> 02:26:33,570
identify or whatever else. I
don't care what you do in your

2240
02:26:33,570 --> 02:26:38,010
bedroom. Nobody cares. But when
you go in that negotiation room,

2241
02:26:38,190 --> 02:26:42,870
yeah. You know, that that
matters then. Right. So that's,

2242
02:26:42,900 --> 02:26:49,470
that's another reason why it
matters. And then this is one of

2243
02:26:49,470 --> 02:26:53,760
the issues, the pushing in and
making inroads in the quote

2244
02:26:53,760 --> 02:26:57,720
unquote, black church. Right, we
need to do something in the

2245
02:26:57,720 --> 02:27:01,080
black church. We need to change
the minds of people in the black

2246
02:27:01,080 --> 02:27:01,620
church.

2247
02:27:02,490 --> 02:27:05,730
Hello, that's an agenda. Right?

2248
02:27:05,760 --> 02:27:11,550
Because with that comes money.
And a lot of the churches always

2249
02:27:11,550 --> 02:27:12,690
need that money.

2250
02:27:14,190 --> 02:27:16,920
All the money ain't nothing like
a fresh dollar bill. I like

2251
02:27:16,920 --> 02:27:18,150
better money

2252
02:27:18,390 --> 02:27:26,430
is more beautiful, every woman.
So yes, so now you see. It's not

2253
02:27:26,430 --> 02:27:29,130
it's just not a benign agenda.
It

2254
02:27:29,130 --> 02:27:31,950
Well, no, I mean, we lost at
Buck, we got to make up for it

2255
02:27:31,950 --> 02:27:32,580
somehow.

2256
02:27:33,540 --> 02:27:37,260
And she would be not to the size
of him. But you know, she used

2257
02:27:37,290 --> 02:27:42,030
she used a bundler. I will say
Anna Anna handler, she's, she's

2258
02:27:42,030 --> 02:27:46,620
a double. So let's go ahead and
get into her air her own words.

2259
02:27:46,620 --> 02:27:51,060
And she's speaking at the city
of click the City Club of

2260
02:27:51,060 --> 02:27:51,630
Cleveland,

2261
02:27:51,780 --> 02:27:55,950
we learned a student organizers,
we did what we needed to do. We

2262
02:27:55,950 --> 02:27:59,880
were under assault in our state
government. But to us, it was

2263
02:27:59,880 --> 02:28:02,460
just another challenge. It was
just something that we were

2264
02:28:02,460 --> 02:28:06,600
supposed to do, that we didn't
realize, when all of America's

2265
02:28:06,600 --> 02:28:11,700
eyes are on you what that really
means. So in many ways, I feel

2266
02:28:11,700 --> 02:28:13,950
very blessed and fortunate
because I do believe I was

2267
02:28:13,950 --> 02:28:17,100
discovered. But I was just
discovered for doing the work of

2268
02:28:17,100 --> 02:28:20,250
ordinary people and an
extraordinary time in our

2269
02:28:20,250 --> 02:28:25,020
democracy. And in that walk, to
be under the tutelage of

2270
02:28:25,020 --> 02:28:28,140
somebody like Norman Lear.
There's never an ordinary day.

2271
02:28:28,710 --> 02:28:32,010
Because it's always wondering
what a great mind like that

2272
02:28:32,010 --> 02:28:36,450
would teach you, and under his
wing to really educate me on the

2273
02:28:36,450 --> 02:28:40,650
separation of church and state,
and what religious exploitation

2274
02:28:40,650 --> 02:28:45,030
looks like, and how our
government is so fragile as to

2275
02:28:45,030 --> 02:28:47,850
why things like the separation
of church and state mattered,

2276
02:28:48,180 --> 02:28:52,290
especially when it comes to
freedom and democracy, and not

2277
02:28:52,290 --> 02:28:56,040
allowing any one's
interpretation of what they feel

2278
02:28:56,040 --> 02:29:00,390
is right and good, especially in
the name of the Lord. And then

2279
02:29:00,390 --> 02:29:05,250
using it to exasperate an
agenda. That also oftentimes is

2280
02:29:05,250 --> 02:29:07,080
not as genuine as your faith.

2281
02:29:09,990 --> 02:29:15,960
Norman Lear Are you familiar
with Norman Lear? Adam?

2282
02:29:15,990 --> 02:29:19,500
I'm very familiar with Norman
Lear. Norman Lear would be

2283
02:29:19,560 --> 02:29:24,510
currently the his legacy lives
on. He's still alive. As the

2284
02:29:24,540 --> 02:29:27,210
propagandist of Hollywood, the
Norman Lear Hollywood

2285
02:29:27,210 --> 02:29:30,480
foundation. They're all over
Hollywood in the writers rooms,

2286
02:29:30,480 --> 02:29:33,930
they deliver scripts, they come
up with ideas. It's the it's a

2287
02:29:33,930 --> 02:29:35,640
huge propaganda outfit.

2288
02:29:36,300 --> 02:29:40,740
And could that be why more the
black roles and black shows are

2289
02:29:40,740 --> 02:29:42,240
leaning more to the LGBT?

2290
02:29:42,900 --> 02:29:45,840
Generally, if it's not climate
change? Is that Sure?

2291
02:29:46,830 --> 02:29:50,340
And the reason why I say this is
Miss Sharon Littman. Hicks,

2292
02:29:50,910 --> 02:29:53,670
previous to coming to the
National Black Justice

2293
02:29:53,670 --> 02:29:58,020
Coalition, which I find that
they put no mention of gay in

2294
02:29:58,020 --> 02:30:01,080
the title of the organization.
Yeah. When you when you hear

2295
02:30:01,080 --> 02:30:05,040
that National Black Justice
Coalition, it doesn't speak. And

2296
02:30:05,040 --> 02:30:10,350
they done that purposely. They
did that purposely. So before

2297
02:30:10,350 --> 02:30:14,010
she came to that organization
became the CEO. She worked at

2298
02:30:14,010 --> 02:30:20,250
People for the American way.
People for the American way, is

2299
02:30:20,250 --> 02:30:24,240
a progressive advocacy group in
the United States organized as a

2300
02:30:24,420 --> 02:30:30,420
501. C four lobby nonprofit,
nonprofit organization. It was

2301
02:30:30,420 --> 02:30:35,220
raised in 1981. By television
producer Norman Lear. Yeah.

2302
02:30:35,880 --> 02:30:39,930
Describe liberal who found the
organization in 1980 to

2303
02:30:39,930 --> 02:30:46,230
challenge the Christian rights
agenda of moral majority. Pretty

2304
02:30:46,230 --> 02:30:52,890
much he was sent over to the NNJ
in BJC, to make inroads in the

2305
02:30:52,890 --> 02:31:02,400
black church. Wow. Okay, so I
just happened

2306
02:31:02,670 --> 02:31:05,460
to stealth missile man, she's
got a lot going on.

2307
02:31:06,330 --> 02:31:11,100
And like I said, I believe her
to be gillows handler in his

2308
02:31:11,340 --> 02:31:17,100
situation. Yeah. So now what I
want to do is, in this

2309
02:31:18,870 --> 02:31:22,800
presentation that she gives at
the City Club, City Club of

2310
02:31:22,800 --> 02:31:28,260
Cleveland, she, she lays out how
you made those inroads in the

2311
02:31:28,260 --> 02:31:29,040
black church,

2312
02:31:29,550 --> 02:31:32,940
and when to really take it to
the next step to get the

2313
02:31:32,940 --> 02:31:36,300
education of what free speech is
about. And as we all are

2314
02:31:36,300 --> 02:31:39,930
watching it play out that
freedom of speech does not mean

2315
02:31:40,260 --> 02:31:44,370
that it's free speech without
consequence. So as we all live

2316
02:31:44,370 --> 02:31:51,960
through the unique modern day,
challenges of Amis show, and

2317
02:31:51,960 --> 02:31:55,770
Norman, as we all were a free
speech organization, we weren't

2318
02:31:55,770 --> 02:31:58,620
allowed to go out on that
particular issue, the way and he

2319
02:31:58,620 --> 02:32:01,200
called us and he just blasted us
What do you mean, you're not

2320
02:32:01,200 --> 02:32:03,600
going out of it? We're like,
Norman, this is a free speech

2321
02:32:03,600 --> 02:32:09,000
issue. We're, no, no, no. It's a
free speech issue. If your

2322
02:32:09,000 --> 02:32:15,750
speech is free, he is a brand of
a network. And as a network

2323
02:32:15,750 --> 02:32:20,670
executive, that type of speech
is costly to me. He's got to go.

2324
02:32:21,600 --> 02:32:25,770
So fast, we struggle. And to me,
I was growing up in this

2325
02:32:25,770 --> 02:32:29,610
society. I was like, Wow, what a
unique capitalistic view.

2326
02:32:32,160 --> 02:32:36,780
The origin of the castle Kenny.
That's right, baby. Wow. That's

2327
02:32:36,780 --> 02:32:44,280
the origin right there.
Normally, I go after the

2328
02:32:44,280 --> 02:32:45,150
advertisers.

2329
02:32:45,750 --> 02:32:48,960
And he's still with us. 99 years
old.

2330
02:32:50,520 --> 02:32:52,860
Which I have some more
information on him that we're

2331
02:32:52,860 --> 02:32:59,040
going to talk about at a later
date. Okay. Yeah. Um, but yeah,

2332
02:32:59,070 --> 02:33:03,300
this is she learned under his
tutelage. Well, then

2333
02:33:03,300 --> 02:33:05,790
she's then she's a Grand Wizard.

2334
02:33:06,900 --> 02:33:10,920
Exactly. Exactly. And like I
said, she was brought over to

2335
02:33:10,920 --> 02:33:15,570
the MB JC to fulfill the, you
know,

2336
02:33:17,700 --> 02:33:19,140
the mission to complete

2337
02:33:19,860 --> 02:33:23,460
making inroads against the
biggest force in the black

2338
02:33:23,460 --> 02:33:26,940
community pushing back against
the, you know, the LGBT Inc.

2339
02:33:27,390 --> 02:33:29,760
agenda. So did not make that
clear. So

2340
02:33:29,760 --> 02:33:33,750
she did she fail? I mean, why
did she Why did she get wrangled

2341
02:33:33,750 --> 02:33:34,620
in this? Or?

2342
02:33:35,610 --> 02:33:39,600
I don't know. I don't have an
answer for that question. And

2343
02:33:39,600 --> 02:33:44,670
like I say, I hate I don't. But
I made this more about. It

2344
02:33:44,880 --> 02:33:51,120
doesn't make any sense for a
democratic, lenient Department

2345
02:33:51,120 --> 02:33:56,220
of Justice to come after these
two know. It that that's the

2346
02:33:56,220 --> 02:34:01,560
bigger story is not the who done
it. It's the why, why, why were

2347
02:34:01,560 --> 02:34:07,110
they taken? I mean, we have so
many other things. You know,

2348
02:34:07,140 --> 02:34:10,110
that's going on right now, that
pales in comparison to what

2349
02:34:10,110 --> 02:34:14,190
these two were doing. And then
the lying to the FBI part is the

2350
02:34:14,190 --> 02:34:18,690
one that really gets me right is
why that charge. So I don't want

2351
02:34:18,690 --> 02:34:21,390
to beat a dead horse. But let's
get into more of her in her own

2352
02:34:21,390 --> 02:34:21,900
words.

2353
02:34:22,110 --> 02:34:26,640
It wasn't real challenging for
me to leap into this body of

2354
02:34:26,640 --> 02:34:29,070
work, because it really became
holes.

2355
02:34:29,100 --> 02:34:34,170
I'm sorry. I just had a thought.
So the why lying to the FBI,

2356
02:34:34,170 --> 02:34:36,840
because if all the other stuff
because it's indictments, right,

2357
02:34:36,840 --> 02:34:40,320
they haven't been found guilty.
They've been indicted. Right? So

2358
02:34:40,410 --> 02:34:44,490
if all of that turns out to be
bullcrap, it may just be a total

2359
02:34:44,490 --> 02:34:48,120
marketing exercise. Then you
always have the lie, as you

2360
02:34:48,120 --> 02:34:51,480
pointed out, lying to the FBI.
That's why they I mean, you're

2361
02:34:51,480 --> 02:34:56,940
gone. I mean, they can Roger
Stone. What's his name? Ben

2362
02:34:56,970 --> 02:35:04,260
Flynn. General Flynn. They are
lying to the FBI. So if all the

2363
02:35:04,260 --> 02:35:07,140
other stuff falls away, yeah,
but you lied to the FBI, FBI, so

2364
02:35:07,140 --> 02:35:07,770
you're guilty.

2365
02:35:08,399 --> 02:35:12,029
These two individuals, which was
one, the rising star of the

2366
02:35:12,029 --> 02:35:17,279
Democratic Party, almost a VP
candidate, as you know, not all

2367
02:35:17,279 --> 02:35:23,879
words, possibly a presidential
potential, and the head of the

2368
02:35:23,909 --> 02:35:28,589
biggest LGBT, black
organization, this taken down a

2369
02:35:28,589 --> 02:35:29,729
treat like white supremacy,

2370
02:35:29,760 --> 02:35:34,050
that's an elimination right
there. Alright, let's go back to

2371
02:35:34,050 --> 02:35:35,790
the clip, we'll find out more.

2372
02:35:35,910 --> 02:35:40,440
It wasn't real challenging for
me to leap into this body of

2373
02:35:40,440 --> 02:35:45,000
work, because it really became
whole for me. In that walk under

2374
02:35:45,000 --> 02:35:50,220
that type of tutelage, when
election, 2008 happened. And I

2375
02:35:50,220 --> 02:35:55,560
got a president that looked like
me. And everything in the world

2376
02:35:55,560 --> 02:36:00,720
felt magnificent. Until the
whole year of 2008. I was in

2377
02:36:00,720 --> 02:36:05,160
California, doing programs on
the ground called homophobia in

2378
02:36:05,160 --> 02:36:09,630
the black church, and reaching
out to my community just to

2379
02:36:09,660 --> 02:36:13,440
soften the reality. Because in
the black community, you can't

2380
02:36:13,440 --> 02:36:18,270
even get to gay marriage.
Because the conversation about

2381
02:36:18,270 --> 02:36:22,320
gay is like, let me be clear,
the black community invented the

2382
02:36:22,320 --> 02:36:34,380
term Don't Ask Don't Tell when.
And so when you even try to have

2383
02:36:34,380 --> 02:36:37,320
a conversation about gay
marriage, what are you talking

2384
02:36:37,320 --> 02:36:42,900
about? Gay marriage, we have 70%
Single Woman households in the

2385
02:36:42,900 --> 02:36:49,290
black community, gay marriage.
Marriage is not even a cultural

2386
02:36:49,290 --> 02:36:55,140
term that is revered in the way
that society may deal with. But

2387
02:36:55,140 --> 02:36:58,830
you're talking about gay
marriage. We don't even say the

2388
02:36:58,830 --> 02:37:00,630
word gay in our community.

2389
02:37:02,460 --> 02:37:06,090
Is it true that black Americans
came up with Don't Ask Don't

2390
02:37:06,090 --> 02:37:06,480
Tell?

2391
02:37:06,960 --> 02:37:10,170
I don't know if that's a true
statement. But that's kind of I

2392
02:37:10,170 --> 02:37:11,940
don't care what you're doing in
your bedroom.

2393
02:37:12,419 --> 02:37:15,989
Well, wait a minute. When did
Don't Ask Don't Tell come out.

2394
02:37:15,989 --> 02:37:20,009
Was that during bush? Ah, it
wasn't during Obama.

2395
02:37:20,910 --> 02:37:24,960
Not that was was it Clinton or
Bush? Maybe it was it was pre

2396
02:37:24,960 --> 02:37:26,640
Obama. It was pre Obama.

2397
02:37:26,670 --> 02:37:29,730
Don't Ask, Don't Tell. Let's see
when it was 2001. So it was

2398
02:37:29,730 --> 02:37:30,240
bush.

2399
02:37:30,930 --> 02:37:35,250
Okay. I knew it was right at the
beginning of the 2000s when that

2400
02:37:35,400 --> 02:37:36,570
first start cropping up?

2401
02:37:36,600 --> 02:37:40,920
Well, considering George Bush is
of course black. Maybe

2402
02:37:40,949 --> 02:37:41,759
no, that would be clean.

2403
02:37:43,980 --> 02:37:47,910
True. Well, really weird. That's
really, really strange to

2404
02:37:47,910 --> 02:37:49,170
understand why she said that.

2405
02:37:49,800 --> 02:37:55,950
But the takeaway from that is,
is true. I don't I don't care

2406
02:37:55,950 --> 02:37:57,720
what you do in your bedroom. I
don't want to hear about

2407
02:37:57,720 --> 02:37:59,760
anything. You know. I mean,
that's that's your own business.

2408
02:38:00,150 --> 02:38:04,230
But what she's talking about is
the black church. Yeah. And she

2409
02:38:04,230 --> 02:38:09,450
was basically saying that clip.
Black people were being accused

2410
02:38:10,440 --> 02:38:14,250
of why they lost the I think it
was Prop Eight, I believe it was

2411
02:38:14,250 --> 02:38:18,300
called in California. I don't
like gay marriage

2412
02:38:18,930 --> 02:38:22,020
proposal, that they mean, the
Defense of Marriage Act?

2413
02:38:22,859 --> 02:38:26,879
No, the one in California. That
was a state. That was a state.

2414
02:38:31,229 --> 02:38:33,509
California, what's the word? I'm
looking at? What proposition?

2415
02:38:33,540 --> 02:38:39,900
Yeah, let me see if it was here.
Well, let's see. 2008

2416
02:38:39,900 --> 02:38:47,370
proposition eight Yes, but that
was to ban same sex marriage.

2417
02:38:50,730 --> 02:38:53,820
Right and black people once
again didn't vote the way they

2418
02:38:53,820 --> 02:38:56,010
thought they were going to vote
all black Christians, right.

2419
02:38:56,580 --> 02:39:00,780
This is why Obama had to come in
as a marriage is between a man

2420
02:39:00,780 --> 02:39:05,820
and a woman. Mm hmm. See, it was
it was one of those cases where

2421
02:39:06,030 --> 02:39:09,720
a lot of this has been thrusted
upon and I want to make this

2422
02:39:09,720 --> 02:39:13,290
very clear black believers. I
want to make this very clear

2423
02:39:13,290 --> 02:39:19,980
this this is a portion. This is
not all black people. This is a

2424
02:39:19,980 --> 02:39:23,760
portion but black believers are
like well, who you want me to

2425
02:39:23,760 --> 02:39:27,900
believe God are you us and like
that's the that's the thing is

2426
02:39:27,900 --> 02:39:35,040
like I don't and they want black
believers to basically say oh,

2427
02:39:35,040 --> 02:39:37,500
no, you gotta be okay with and
it's like okay, I'm okay with

2428
02:39:37,530 --> 02:39:43,110
outside of church, but inside of
church. I don't know if I can

2429
02:39:44,640 --> 02:39:47,220
conflicts with what I believe
and notice they don't push this

2430
02:39:47,220 --> 02:39:50,190
anyway. You don't hear this kind
of taught me a mosque. You don't

2431
02:39:50,190 --> 02:39:52,110
hear this kind of talking
synagogues? No,

2432
02:39:52,650 --> 02:39:54,810
definitely not. Is

2433
02:39:55,109 --> 02:40:02,099
only churches so um, And the
reason why it affects black

2434
02:40:02,099 --> 02:40:05,249
people so much is cost them
money that comes with it. You

2435
02:40:05,249 --> 02:40:08,609
know, a lot of political money
flows through the black church.

2436
02:40:09,149 --> 02:40:13,769
Yeah. I mean, we talked about
that with Margaret Sanger is

2437
02:40:13,769 --> 02:40:16,349
alleged to be, you know, quoted,
you know, you had to get,

2438
02:40:16,680 --> 02:40:19,590
you got to get that you got to
get the reverence involved in

2439
02:40:19,590 --> 02:40:21,150
order to propagate a message.

2440
02:40:21,540 --> 02:40:24,570
Right. And we all know if you've
ever been to a black church on

2441
02:40:24,570 --> 02:40:27,270
the Sunday before a Tuesday
before election, gonna be some

2442
02:40:27,270 --> 02:40:30,810
white people on the front row.
Or some politicians, at least,

2443
02:40:30,840 --> 02:40:33,870
you know, but it's very stark,
because like all the black

2444
02:40:33,870 --> 02:40:36,450
people, and it's like, it's like
three white people sitting on

2445
02:40:36,450 --> 02:40:39,630
the front row. It's like, oh,
yeah, I'm here from, I'm running

2446
02:40:39,630 --> 02:40:42,090
for the City Council, or
whatever else, I hope you can,

2447
02:40:42,300 --> 02:40:49,230
and which is totally illegal.
So. So I just, I just want to

2448
02:40:49,230 --> 02:40:52,410
point this out that this this,
the reason why I'm bringing this

2449
02:40:52,410 --> 02:40:57,120
up. This is the when the
pendulum started swinging that

2450
02:40:57,120 --> 02:41:00,900
way, what we're seeing in real
time now is that pendulum is

2451
02:41:00,900 --> 02:41:05,130
coming back via Clarence Thomas,
which I told you, Clarence

2452
02:41:05,130 --> 02:41:07,500
Thomas was gonna be a major
player in a previous show.

2453
02:41:07,530 --> 02:41:11,580
You are right, man, and boy, is
he ever and I told you how

2454
02:41:11,580 --> 02:41:14,400
they will treat you ever.

2455
02:41:15,300 --> 02:41:18,450
I mean, he's, he's really, I
mean, it's like they're really

2456
02:41:18,450 --> 02:41:21,420
going after him. It's
incredible. I mean, they call

2457
02:41:21,420 --> 02:41:23,670
him the N word on Twitter. It's
nuts.

2458
02:41:24,029 --> 02:41:27,809
Yes, no, it's not. I mean,
Qatari called Kanye, Kanye. So I

2459
02:41:27,809 --> 02:41:34,559
mean, in the first thing is
Kanye got suspended from

2460
02:41:34,589 --> 02:41:37,919
Instagram for calling the Trevor
Noah coup. What we've seen

2461
02:41:37,919 --> 02:41:40,049
nobody's getting suspended for
Clarence Thomas, and the way

2462
02:41:40,049 --> 02:41:42,989
he's been treated. Well, no
issues with Clarence Thomas, you

2463
02:41:42,989 --> 02:41:46,499
know, I mean, I have my own
issues with him. But yeah, but

2464
02:41:46,499 --> 02:41:53,759
he realizes that he's in demand
right now. Oh, yeah. He got a

2465
02:41:53,759 --> 02:41:57,269
lot of juice. I don't know if
any black man has had this much

2466
02:41:57,269 --> 02:42:01,949
juice inside of the nurse and
the federal government in

2467
02:42:01,949 --> 02:42:07,919
history. She's on that might be
high salt, like hyperbole, but

2468
02:42:07,919 --> 02:42:13,559
you know, hey, that balance it.
I mean, we're talking about just

2469
02:42:13,559 --> 02:42:16,769
look at Prop Eight. You have
this all over again, they had it

2470
02:42:16,769 --> 02:42:23,579
wrapped up with these, you know,
Supreme Court decisions,

2471
02:42:23,640 --> 02:42:26,790
right. And Clarence Thomas is
putting that back on the table.

2472
02:42:27,120 --> 02:42:27,930
Now, he

2473
02:42:27,930 --> 02:42:32,400
said on my way out. I'm gonna
kick all of this over on my way

2474
02:42:32,400 --> 02:42:37,050
out, you know, hey, I've been
treating me. Okay. And but he's

2475
02:42:37,050 --> 02:42:40,770
not getting the pushback that
you think you would have got

2476
02:42:40,770 --> 02:42:43,200
from quote unquote, black
community?

2477
02:42:43,710 --> 02:42:46,890
No, no, he's getting the
pushback from the media and from

2478
02:42:47,220 --> 02:42:51,660
Black Lives Matter, Inc. and Roe
v. Wade, Inc. And that's where

2479
02:42:51,660 --> 02:42:53,970
the white liberals Yes, yes,
yes, Jen. Yeah,

2480
02:42:53,970 --> 02:42:57,150
cuz they were what they were
saying some really like one

2481
02:42:57,150 --> 02:43:02,490
lady, she went all the way. But
I told you when that pinch that

2482
02:43:02,490 --> 02:43:07,470
but this is the pendulum is
swinging back. And it's, once

2483
02:43:07,470 --> 02:43:10,320
again, it's like, oh, okay,
whoa, y'all are pushing the

2484
02:43:10,620 --> 02:43:15,150
boundaries. Now. And I say this
to the same way I said about

2485
02:43:15,150 --> 02:43:18,300
Black Lives Matter to Black
Lives Matter, Inc. You gotta

2486
02:43:18,300 --> 02:43:22,020
watch who's representing you.
You know, I don't care what you

2487
02:43:22,020 --> 02:43:24,780
do in your bedroom, next your
business. But the way they're

2488
02:43:24,780 --> 02:43:27,450
portraying y'all in the media
right now with some of the stuff

2489
02:43:27,450 --> 02:43:29,550
that's going on at these parades
and

2490
02:43:30,660 --> 02:43:33,570
have some dignity people know,
what I'm

2491
02:43:33,570 --> 02:43:38,730
saying is how you're being
represented by a small minority

2492
02:43:38,940 --> 02:43:48,510
is making it very hard for
people to support. Yeah. The

2493
02:43:48,510 --> 02:43:50,490
same way, because I always say,
well, black lives matter. You're

2494
02:43:50,490 --> 02:43:54,570
saying, Wait, it was the ink?
Was it representing what the

2495
02:43:54,570 --> 02:43:58,140
people want? And that's why
they're out on the island by

2496
02:43:58,140 --> 02:44:00,210
themselves right now, because
the people aren't behind them.

2497
02:44:00,240 --> 02:44:03,330
So I'll say it's the same thing
for all the other inks. You

2498
02:44:03,330 --> 02:44:05,970
know, it's gonna be the same
thing with the border. It's

2499
02:44:05,970 --> 02:44:10,050
gonna be like, Oh, well. How
open Do you want it to be?

2500
02:44:10,080 --> 02:44:15,420
You're gonna wish you just trust
me. This pendulum is swinging

2501
02:44:15,420 --> 02:44:17,430
backwards. I'm just for warning
people.

2502
02:44:18,030 --> 02:44:21,780
I think the pendulum swinging
back in many places, I think

2503
02:44:21,780 --> 02:44:24,570
it's and it always happens. It's
in its nature, you almost can't

2504
02:44:24,570 --> 02:44:26,160
help it. It's just It works that
way.

2505
02:44:26,820 --> 02:44:29,910
Right? But we got to be careful
as the pendulum and I've always

2506
02:44:29,940 --> 02:44:33,480
warn of this. We don't want the
pendulum swing all the way the

2507
02:44:33,540 --> 02:44:40,500
other way either, because then
we become a very the same thing.

2508
02:44:40,530 --> 02:44:43,380
It's just as polarizing.
Exactly.

2509
02:44:44,490 --> 02:44:48,150
So I think we started 33 or 34.
Now

2510
02:44:48,180 --> 02:44:52,230
for me, sweet victory. We had
Obama but then that next day,

2511
02:44:52,230 --> 02:44:55,590
the only thing we heard
competing with the victory was

2512
02:44:55,740 --> 02:45:02,100
the black community took gay
marriage away from me Not all

2513
02:45:02,100 --> 02:45:04,740
gay people. It was a
conversation about white gay

2514
02:45:04,740 --> 02:45:10,290
people. So it became white gay
people, against African

2515
02:45:10,290 --> 02:45:16,290
Americans. Wow. All I could say
for the next few weeks was Wow.

2516
02:45:16,710 --> 02:45:19,410
Because as I was trying to
celebrate Obama, I was called

2517
02:45:19,410 --> 02:45:22,950
in. Like, I felt like I was
being called him by Obama into

2518
02:45:22,950 --> 02:45:28,920
California to say, How did you
let this happen? Now, last

2519
02:45:29,130 --> 02:45:31,380
population check, I think
African Americans,

2520
02:45:32,279 --> 02:45:35,609
I can't let that slide back in
about 10 minutes because she

2521
02:45:36,359 --> 02:45:40,199
just like, Excuse me. She said,
she's like she she was being

2522
02:45:40,199 --> 02:45:42,989
caught in by Obama. And she
said, like being called in by

2523
02:45:42,989 --> 02:45:43,439
Obama,

2524
02:45:43,470 --> 02:45:45,540
I have Ah, here it is.

2525
02:45:45,810 --> 02:45:49,800
All I can say for the next few
weeks was Wow. Because as I was

2526
02:45:49,800 --> 02:45:53,370
trying to celebrate Obama, I was
called in. Like, I felt like I

2527
02:45:53,370 --> 02:45:56,790
was being called him by Obama,
and to California to say, How

2528
02:45:56,790 --> 02:45:58,080
did you let this happen?

2529
02:45:58,500 --> 02:46:01,530
Who calls her in? Who's got the
juice there?

2530
02:46:03,420 --> 02:46:05,760
Was it her boss, Norman Lear.
Maybe?

2531
02:46:06,120 --> 02:46:10,590
Now? Population check. I think
African Americans about 7% of

2532
02:46:10,590 --> 02:46:14,940
the state of California, maybe
no one pulled the stats on the

2533
02:46:14,940 --> 02:46:20,010
25% Latino community. No one
pulled the stats on the 12%

2534
02:46:20,040 --> 02:46:25,200
Asian American community. I had
people just calling because CNN

2535
02:46:25,200 --> 02:46:30,510
went up with this, you know,
hellacious study. And then we

2536
02:46:30,510 --> 02:46:35,070
just totally gave the
evangelical white people a pass

2537
02:46:35,580 --> 02:46:42,480
and decided that black America
took gay marriage away from the

2538
02:46:42,480 --> 02:46:45,270
state of California. And then
there goes California that goes

2539
02:46:45,270 --> 02:46:45,840
to country.

2540
02:46:45,960 --> 02:46:50,370
Wow. That's quite the
accusation.

2541
02:46:51,240 --> 02:46:55,920
And when we see it with a black
man took away Roe v. Wade. It

2542
02:46:55,920 --> 02:46:58,890
was five other justices. They
voted with Clarence Thomas.

2543
02:46:59,040 --> 02:47:00,480
Yeah, no, no,

2544
02:47:00,480 --> 02:47:02,880
he's the only one it was the
black guy. Yeah, that's he did

2545
02:47:02,880 --> 02:47:06,780
it all on his own. Yeah, that
guy's horrible. Doesn't he care

2546
02:47:06,810 --> 02:47:07,830
about his children?

2547
02:47:08,610 --> 02:47:14,910
Right. But once again, this is
this is how they're framing it.

2548
02:47:14,910 --> 02:47:24,600
But there is some We saw this
with the vaccine. If we don't

2549
02:47:24,600 --> 02:47:27,900
get on board, other people are
skeptical, like, whoa, whoa,

2550
02:47:27,900 --> 02:47:30,540
whoa, whoa, wait a minute. Like,
even though we don't have the

2551
02:47:30,540 --> 02:47:36,030
numbers? Is the is the I don't
know about that. You know,

2552
02:47:36,450 --> 02:47:39,930
that's why they push so hard.
Like, I'm making rap songs and

2553
02:47:39,930 --> 02:47:41,520
everything else getting us on
board,

2554
02:47:41,550 --> 02:47:44,040
and just kept saying and just
kept saying over and over again.

2555
02:47:44,040 --> 02:47:47,220
Now historically, of course, we
understand Tuskegee, you know,

2556
02:47:47,220 --> 02:47:52,590
oh, they kept it but you know,
it's a new time as Fauci

2557
02:47:53,430 --> 02:47:58,410
right. So it's the same thing
with this, these other agendas.

2558
02:47:58,560 --> 02:48:00,270
And when we talk about that,
we're talking about political

2559
02:48:00,270 --> 02:48:06,630
agendas. And that's why Brock
said Brock, it was necessary for

2560
02:48:06,630 --> 02:48:10,440
Brock Obama to do what he did in
2012. And make the pivot on what

2561
02:48:10,440 --> 02:48:13,740
a marriage was. Because they
weren't gonna let him play that

2562
02:48:13,740 --> 02:48:15,480
role anymore. They forced

2563
02:48:15,480 --> 02:48:18,540
him they forced him by mate
letting Joe's us have the cat

2564
02:48:18,540 --> 02:48:23,130
slip out of the bag. Exactly.
And there he is, our man Joe,

2565
02:48:23,220 --> 02:48:24,150
ready to go once.

2566
02:48:25,290 --> 02:48:29,400
Again, always wanted to you. I
guess we get to the next clip.

2567
02:48:29,430 --> 02:48:33,090
So now this is when they open up
for the questions. And as one of

2568
02:48:33,090 --> 02:48:37,650
the one of the people there in
the audience is going to ask her

2569
02:48:37,650 --> 02:48:42,030
a question about the struggle
between faith and her sexuality.

2570
02:48:42,690 --> 02:48:45,960
There is a struggle there
because there are words there.

2571
02:48:46,110 --> 02:48:50,610
And if we accept it as the
indisputable truth, there is a

2572
02:48:50,610 --> 02:48:53,910
problem. Because how do we
reconcile, I want to go to

2573
02:48:53,910 --> 02:48:58,560
heaven. I'm serious, I want to
go there. But also, if my

2574
02:48:58,560 --> 02:49:02,040
pheromones say I'm attracted to
a female, then I have that

2575
02:49:02,040 --> 02:49:05,370
conflict. So how do you address
that?

2576
02:49:06,420 --> 02:49:09,810
I address it real simple.
Because I am a car carrying

2577
02:49:09,810 --> 02:49:16,500
Christian. And my one of my
spiritual teachers taught me

2578
02:49:17,040 --> 02:49:23,940
know me by my deeds. So my job
is not in the book. The book is

2579
02:49:23,940 --> 02:49:29,460
there as a guide, but those were
written by men. I haven't heard

2580
02:49:29,460 --> 02:49:30,990
one that doesn't tell me God
wrote.

2581
02:49:32,490 --> 02:49:38,520
Okay, well, now we're in a deep
spot lady. Who's your God? Yeah.

2582
02:49:38,550 --> 02:49:42,840
And she ends it with not one
word of God, right? This is why

2583
02:49:42,840 --> 02:49:45,180
it's called a testament. It's
the witnesses.

2584
02:49:45,690 --> 02:49:49,980
That is the mega talking point.
That into power. Only God can

2585
02:49:49,980 --> 02:49:56,130
judge me which people think is
in the Bible, which is not which

2586
02:49:56,130 --> 02:50:03,240
is not but that's that's the II
mindset that was the mean, that

2587
02:50:03,240 --> 02:50:07,200
was the that was the push,
right? No, you know, just kind

2588
02:50:07,200 --> 02:50:10,470
of like with the Constitution,
ya know, some man wrote that

2589
02:50:10,500 --> 02:50:13,770
thing back in a man man, white
man, white man.

2590
02:50:14,460 --> 02:50:18,180
It's not the same anymore. You
know, we need to get the science

2591
02:50:18,180 --> 02:50:19,020
the Constitution

2592
02:50:19,020 --> 02:50:21,780
is a fluid document is gender
fluid?

2593
02:50:22,590 --> 02:50:28,080
And this is the real attack on
the patriarchy. Yep. Is anything

2594
02:50:28,080 --> 02:50:33,750
man wrote, there's no countered,
or whatever their agenda is.

2595
02:50:33,990 --> 02:50:37,530
Gotta go. And for her to say I'm
a card carrying member

2596
02:50:37,530 --> 02:50:41,100
Christian. And I don't care once
you fill that blank and

2597
02:50:41,130 --> 02:50:44,310
whatever, it could be Muslim, it
could be Jewish person,

2598
02:50:44,310 --> 02:50:49,020
whatever. It could be whatever
they you say, but I don't

2599
02:50:49,020 --> 02:50:52,020
believe everything is written in
the book. It's like so how can

2600
02:50:52,020 --> 02:50:52,080
you

2601
02:50:53,610 --> 02:50:54,480
remember? Yeah.

2602
02:50:56,040 --> 02:50:59,310
Yeah, but this is what they've
done. And like I said, our shot

2603
02:50:59,310 --> 02:51:06,750
ring out on board, TD Jakes has
gotten on board. And a lot of

2604
02:51:07,410 --> 02:51:14,640
these people have got on board
and have political gain from it.

2605
02:51:14,910 --> 02:51:20,820
Most you see mostly Yeah. So
this is I'm sure that that money

2606
02:51:20,820 --> 02:51:24,090
that she that pool of money that
is going right back into the

2607
02:51:24,090 --> 02:51:27,840
church and this is why poverty
affects the quote unquote black

2608
02:51:27,870 --> 02:51:31,410
community so badly that they
need to resources sodium they

2609
02:51:31,410 --> 02:51:35,700
sell out. And I'm not condoning
it, but I'm just saying that and

2610
02:51:35,700 --> 02:51:38,190
you're gonna see more of this
because I'm gonna let you know

2611
02:51:38,190 --> 02:51:45,570
now. The black churches in
trouble. Do toe COVID Yeah, no

2612
02:51:45,570 --> 02:51:48,930
church, no collections. No
collections. No value. No

2613
02:51:48,930 --> 02:51:52,710
money. No value. Yep. No money.
Yeah. These charges have

2614
02:51:52,710 --> 02:51:59,340
mortgages. Yeah, I mean, I sure
hope if there's another

2615
02:51:59,340 --> 02:52:02,670
situation like that, no church
allows that to happen.

2616
02:52:03,420 --> 02:52:06,450
And when you have the big
institutions that you know, the

2617
02:52:06,480 --> 02:52:12,450
more like the AME Zion Baptist,
there'll be okay. Because they

2618
02:52:12,480 --> 02:52:14,340
they're more of a Yeah, but it's
the small

2619
02:52:15,060 --> 02:52:17,730
community churches, right? The
ones

2620
02:52:17,730 --> 02:52:21,540
where there were independent a
lot of these don't have fallen

2621
02:52:21,540 --> 02:52:23,820
once the threes where they can
freely speak how they want to

2622
02:52:23,820 --> 02:52:26,880
speak. Because that's another
thing and Michelle and I don't

2623
02:52:26,880 --> 02:52:30,360
want to go make this a black,
but black church show but I'm

2624
02:52:30,360 --> 02:52:33,420
saying that these were the
enrolls and this wasn't all

2625
02:52:33,420 --> 02:52:37,920
Democrats either, because I've
heard Republican donors push the

2626
02:52:37,920 --> 02:52:43,590
same thing. Oh, yeah. Take us
off in line so and it's only

2627
02:52:43,590 --> 02:52:49,680
Christians. But you you will get
ran out of a mosque. If you when

2628
02:52:49,680 --> 02:52:51,960
they're talking about oh, yeah,
we need I don't care what

2629
02:52:51,960 --> 02:52:54,180
Muhammad said. You know, that
was just a man.

2630
02:52:55,110 --> 02:52:58,620
Yeah. While you're at a draw
cartoon of him, that'd be fun.

2631
02:53:00,180 --> 02:53:04,170
That's exactly my point. The
seriousness other religions when

2632
02:53:04,200 --> 02:53:08,460
you mentioned their name, and
and we saw this with what

2633
02:53:08,460 --> 02:53:11,550
happened in floor with the Pulse
nightclub? Yeah, that's not that

2634
02:53:11,550 --> 02:53:13,830
was one of the biggest if not
the biggest shooting at a time

2635
02:53:13,830 --> 02:53:17,220
in American history, but the
fact that the shooter was Muslim

2636
02:53:18,480 --> 02:53:22,500
politics won't let them use it
like they want to know just like

2637
02:53:22,500 --> 02:53:25,740
with you, Valerie, I think it's
how you pronounce it. Yeah, the

2638
02:53:25,740 --> 02:53:29,610
fact that he was Hispanic now
they really can't use it like

2639
02:53:29,610 --> 02:53:30,330
they want to

2640
02:53:30,420 --> 02:53:36,000
know even though even though he
shot his grandma in the head it

2641
02:53:36,000 --> 02:53:40,650
is a lot of things it's not cool
when you start like that

2642
02:53:41,850 --> 02:53:44,910
right so I'm just saying like
now we got to start questioning

2643
02:53:45,300 --> 02:53:50,340
who is their God? You know, is
it is it they're not and like I

2644
02:53:50,340 --> 02:53:54,360
said, I'm not here to convert
anybody I'm not even to push my

2645
02:53:54,360 --> 02:53:54,930
beliefs

2646
02:53:56,970 --> 02:53:58,980
This is the God of the Democrats

2647
02:54:01,440 --> 02:54:04,500
sorry. I couldn't resist

2648
02:54:10,080 --> 02:54:15,540
that's so offensive because it's
like the bedrock of somebody's

2649
02:54:15,540 --> 02:54:20,610
beliefs. You think you can come
in and bully them that they're

2650
02:54:20,610 --> 02:54:24,390
anti bullying, but then they
want to use bullying pulling

2651
02:54:24,390 --> 02:54:27,660
your fund pulling your you know,
whatever attacking your money

2652
02:54:27,660 --> 02:54:32,220
your financials to push their
agenda. So it's like oh, whoa

2653
02:54:32,220 --> 02:54:34,560
isn't the guy that did the God I
believe in the one saying what

2654
02:54:34,560 --> 02:54:38,550
she says she believes in or is
it these people that are giving

2655
02:54:38,550 --> 02:54:41,970
your talking points so that's
that's the point I want to make

2656
02:54:41,970 --> 02:54:47,610
out of that. So some I'm still
keeping my eye on who was in

2657
02:54:47,610 --> 02:54:52,380
that room, but I want to wrap up
with Neely fuller Jr. Just did.

2658
02:54:53,520 --> 02:54:56,610
This is about being effect, you
know, Seven Habits of Highly

2659
02:54:56,610 --> 02:55:01,020
Effective People. Is something
effective or not and not for me

2660
02:55:01,020 --> 02:55:04,620
personally but for the quote
quote unquote community that we

2661
02:55:04,620 --> 02:55:12,330
always talk about so nearly full
is not a rationalize. Is

2662
02:55:13,200 --> 02:55:16,740
homosexuality and lesbianism
good for the quote unquote black

2663
02:55:16,740 --> 02:55:17,280
community?

2664
02:55:18,090 --> 02:55:20,790
Yes. Just like a person might
come around and say, Well, hey,

2665
02:55:20,820 --> 02:55:25,590
you know, I used to kind of be
attracted to people, you know,

2666
02:55:25,620 --> 02:55:30,840
had several wives and all like
that. Even had a little incest.

2667
02:55:30,840 --> 02:55:35,790
I mean, every night. I mean, you
know, and, but I finally came to

2668
02:55:35,790 --> 02:55:38,880
the conclusion that people ain't
where is that at all? I'm in the

2669
02:55:38,880 --> 02:55:44,670
bath. You know, you say, well,
you mean you end the bear into

2670
02:55:44,670 --> 02:55:48,900
bear. I go out in the woods and
I chase me down. I bear the

2671
02:55:48,900 --> 02:55:53,490
bear. He said me no. Well, I'm
Jason. I have found that that's

2672
02:55:53,490 --> 02:55:58,620
a wonderful alternative. I mean,
after Oh, man. coming in. Let's

2673
02:55:58,620 --> 02:56:02,850
face it. Look at these marriages
and divorces and whatnot. How

2674
02:56:02,850 --> 02:56:08,550
handled trouble with the bears?
I mean, I used to didn't think

2675
02:56:08,550 --> 02:56:13,800
of anything about bears, except
just go into the ballgame. But

2676
02:56:13,800 --> 02:56:17,700
if found out that, man, if you
really snuggle up to a bear,

2677
02:56:17,970 --> 02:56:22,740
you'll never want to go back. Do
a nun nails. Now, where'd you

2678
02:56:22,740 --> 02:56:26,670
get that idea? Well, it just
came to me one night. Tired of

2679
02:56:26,670 --> 02:56:30,210
these women? In fact, people was
telling me well, if you don't

2680
02:56:30,210 --> 02:56:34,620
like women get you a man. Well,
I'm tired of them too. So I'm in

2681
02:56:34,620 --> 02:56:38,130
the bath. So you know you might
laugh, but it's gonna come to

2682
02:56:38,130 --> 02:56:42,870
that. If anything already goes
there are some people into that.

2683
02:56:44,400 --> 02:56:47,700
Yeah, they call it what do you
call it? Beast? ality? Yes, sir.

2684
02:56:47,820 --> 02:56:50,610
Yeah. So you know, I mean, that
might be a wholesale thing, and

2685
02:56:50,610 --> 02:56:53,400
abundant another 10 years. They
say, Oh, hey, you know, this gay

2686
02:56:53,400 --> 02:56:57,270
and lesbian thing. But lay it
out, man anyway said, you know,

2687
02:56:58,230 --> 02:57:00,720
man, everybody's trying to
preserve the barrels. Now, you

2688
02:57:00,720 --> 02:57:01,920
know, I'm trying to get me a
pen.

2689
02:57:07,980 --> 02:57:14,130
The reason why I put that in
there is go go for 2000 T. And

2690
02:57:14,130 --> 02:57:16,560
when they were pushing this to
now was happening out in the

2691
02:57:16,560 --> 02:57:17,160
streets.

2692
02:57:17,220 --> 02:57:20,580
No, I totally agree. I mean, he
he's, of course, being kind of

2693
02:57:20,580 --> 02:57:22,950
facetious. But really, I mean,
you can push anything, and it

2694
02:57:22,950 --> 02:57:24,300
seems to work eventually.

2695
02:57:25,560 --> 02:57:29,490
And it's not about the people.
No, because I just laid that out

2696
02:57:29,490 --> 02:57:33,360
in the first segment of the
show. We have gay men, black,

2697
02:57:34,620 --> 02:57:39,210
being killed by white man,
serial killer. And nobody said

2698
02:57:39,240 --> 02:57:42,210
anything where all the
activities that were with Black

2699
02:57:42,210 --> 02:57:42,690
Lives Matter.

2700
02:57:43,980 --> 02:57:47,220
They were just hustlers. They
were nival

2701
02:57:47,250 --> 02:57:51,900
Exactly what he gets more
serious in 37. Like, I just

2702
02:57:51,900 --> 02:57:55,860
wanted to lay it out how asinine
it sounds. But now he gets more

2703
02:57:55,860 --> 02:57:56,400
serious.

2704
02:57:57,300 --> 02:58:00,540
So what is the point that I'm
making? It's a lots of things

2705
02:58:00,690 --> 02:58:05,520
that the man can do. The man is
extremely inventive, and

2706
02:58:05,520 --> 02:58:10,950
extremely flexible. But the
basic question is, is this type

2707
02:58:10,950 --> 02:58:17,310
of activity and improvement? And
if so, why? Otherwise? Why you

2708
02:58:17,310 --> 02:58:20,430
come around asking black people
who don't even have a roof over

2709
02:58:20,430 --> 02:58:27,420
their head, that this is what
they should be pushing them to

2710
02:58:27,420 --> 02:58:32,340
even have a decent school or a
decent job. But now you want

2711
02:58:32,340 --> 02:58:35,250
them to get joined the gay
rights movement. And that should

2712
02:58:35,250 --> 02:58:38,640
be their priority, we should
drop everything else and make

2713
02:58:38,640 --> 02:58:43,860
that a priority. I don't see the
justification at all. They have

2714
02:58:43,860 --> 02:58:48,660
some white people who came
around years ago and started

2715
02:58:48,660 --> 02:58:54,900
saying calling it the rainbow.
You know, kind of you might

2716
02:58:54,900 --> 02:59:00,780
excuse the pun tailgating, Jesse
Jackson's Rainbow PUSH for civil

2717
02:59:00,780 --> 02:59:04,290
rights. And then they got the
same Well, what is this all

2718
02:59:04,290 --> 02:59:07,050
about? And when the question was
asked, they answered by saying,

2719
02:59:07,200 --> 02:59:11,700
well, it's another division of
civil rights. Yeah. You know,

2720
02:59:12,030 --> 02:59:15,330
it's all the same thing.
Discriminating against gays as

2721
02:59:15,330 --> 02:59:18,060
the same discriminating against
blacks. And a lot of black

2722
02:59:18,060 --> 02:59:21,240
people say, wait a minute, it
may sound like the same thing,

2723
02:59:21,240 --> 02:59:25,650
but in a same thing. But they
were able to shout all of that

2724
02:59:25,650 --> 02:59:29,370
down. It is the same thing. Why
is it the same thing? Because I

2725
02:59:29,370 --> 02:59:34,050
said so. White supremacy in
action again, always calls?

2726
02:59:34,050 --> 02:59:34,830
That's it. So

2727
02:59:35,730 --> 02:59:39,510
let me ask you a question. In
general, I mean, I know your

2728
02:59:39,510 --> 02:59:42,870
stance a lot of our show has
been about this. Do you feel

2729
02:59:42,870 --> 02:59:48,690
black America understands what's
happening and does not agree

2730
02:59:48,690 --> 02:59:52,110
with it, or is it a percentage?
I mean, where do you think that

2731
02:59:52,110 --> 02:59:53,070
is? It's

2732
02:59:53,070 --> 02:59:57,120
two different conversations.
One, what a person does and who

2733
02:59:57,120 --> 03:00:01,320
they're attracted to. That's one
thing got it. But the CC

2734
03:00:01,320 --> 03:00:05,940
furcation the little knot, and I
never mentioned his name, but

2735
03:00:05,970 --> 03:00:14,220
just to draw imagery, the little
NAS x aspect of it, the pushing

2736
03:00:14,250 --> 03:00:20,520
of more of, and it's not even
about homelessness, it's about

2737
03:00:20,520 --> 03:00:25,020
the flamboyancy of it. You have
no representation across the

2738
03:00:25,020 --> 03:00:27,510
spectrum because there's a
spectrum inside their community.

2739
03:00:27,990 --> 03:00:33,630
But what we get is RuPaul.
Little NAS x. What's the porter

2740
03:00:33,630 --> 03:00:37,200
guy name? Billy Porter Porter,
you see, I'm saying like, it's

2741
03:00:37,200 --> 03:00:40,890
no serious and maybe a better
word for it. But there's no

2742
03:00:40,890 --> 03:00:41,640
serious Hey,

2743
03:00:41,640 --> 03:00:45,450
man, we gave you dense hell, and
then that should just be enough.

2744
03:00:46,380 --> 03:00:50,370
Right? That's, that's the thing.
It's just like, how now like,

2745
03:00:50,400 --> 03:00:54,150
these are two different things.
I mean, why are you portraying?

2746
03:00:54,480 --> 03:00:59,670
And then the other thing is
that, as he said, There's way

2747
03:00:59,670 --> 03:01:02,730
other bigger issues that we need
to deal with no kid, but they

2748
03:01:02,730 --> 03:01:06,840
prioritize for us. And they say,
like, say white supremacy is

2749
03:01:07,200 --> 03:01:11,370
because I said so. Right that
NASA is like this, like we heard

2750
03:01:11,370 --> 03:01:15,780
in the NCAA clip, when she came
out and said what she said, they

2751
03:01:15,780 --> 03:01:21,360
got on code when he wished he
got a name. Um, what's the

2752
03:01:21,630 --> 03:01:27,810
comedian's name? The little guy?
Kevin, Kevin Hart. He had to

2753
03:01:27,810 --> 03:01:34,350
apologize twice. Look at Dave
Chappelle attacked on stage, and

2754
03:01:34,350 --> 03:01:40,470
was justified for telling the
joke. This is this is the true

2755
03:01:40,470 --> 03:01:44,820
white supremacy this is we can
check Oh your God. Oh, your God

2756
03:01:44,820 --> 03:01:54,180
said what? No, no, no, no, no,
no. I'm your God. Yeah. And

2757
03:01:54,180 --> 03:01:57,510
that's what I think we have one
more clip? Yes, we do. He's

2758
03:01:57,510 --> 03:02:02,040
going to illustrate the point of
white supremacy. Is there a God?

2759
03:02:04,170 --> 03:02:06,570
And that's how you handle
religion to just go into

2760
03:02:06,570 --> 03:02:09,600
question mode. The minute a
person says that God is a

2761
03:02:09,600 --> 03:02:13,320
leader, you keep asking
questions. And then after they

2762
03:02:13,320 --> 03:02:16,320
answer the questions during
August, don't ever argue with a

2763
03:02:16,320 --> 03:02:20,880
person about religion. It later
that barber shop now where

2764
03:02:20,880 --> 03:02:24,870
religion is talked about all the
time, don't ever argue about

2765
03:02:24,870 --> 03:02:28,950
religion, does ask questions
about that person's religion.

2766
03:02:29,460 --> 03:02:33,120
And then when that person gets
to talking about how much they

2767
03:02:33,120 --> 03:02:36,870
believe in their religion, then
watch and see what they do when

2768
03:02:36,870 --> 03:02:43,290
the white supremacists come
around. That's the test about

2769
03:02:43,290 --> 03:02:47,550
who their god is. If you're you
know, as an adult, you know, you

2770
03:02:47,550 --> 03:02:50,670
don't have to say nothing. Just
watch what they do. When the

2771
03:02:50,670 --> 03:02:53,580
lights or premises come around,
and say I don't like what you're

2772
03:02:53,580 --> 03:02:57,690
doing. And what I'm doing is
according to my religion, oh,

2773
03:02:57,840 --> 03:03:04,980
oh, you know, you gonna tell me
with your black self. And I'm a

2774
03:03:04,980 --> 03:03:09,960
white person in the system of
white supremacy. And with your

2775
03:03:09,960 --> 03:03:13,710
black self, you're gonna tell me
about religion, and what your

2776
03:03:13,710 --> 03:03:17,940
religion tells you to do. And I
just told you to do something.

2777
03:03:18,120 --> 03:03:23,880
That's just just the opposite.
Oh, now, it's testing time now.

2778
03:03:24,960 --> 03:03:27,660
And every black person on the
planet understands that

2779
03:03:30,330 --> 03:03:32,280
testing time yeah,

2780
03:03:33,090 --> 03:03:39,390
they take the shot Mo Oh, well
take a shot. Because I said so.

2781
03:03:41,220 --> 03:03:43,770
Aim ever been a time where
you're saying My job was taught

2782
03:03:43,770 --> 03:03:47,070
to vaccine. Natives today? Take
the shot.

2783
03:03:47,130 --> 03:03:50,280
I always love how fuller always
says supremecy instead of

2784
03:03:50,280 --> 03:03:54,030
supremacy and I think it really
matters that he pronounces it

2785
03:03:54,030 --> 03:03:54,540
that way

2786
03:03:55,680 --> 03:03:59,220
to premise and just to clarify
his for new listeners were his

2787
03:03:59,220 --> 03:04:02,670
definition of widespread a one
world government the same the

2788
03:04:02,670 --> 03:04:10,140
same. Do you win or what are you
global? We're economic. For

2789
03:04:10,140 --> 03:04:11,220
whatever you want to call it,

2790
03:04:11,250 --> 03:04:13,800
anything starting with a W
probably right?

2791
03:04:14,789 --> 03:04:15,929
Gas was good

2792
03:04:16,260 --> 03:04:22,440
2016 and 2020 GaNS bad now your
money on it well yeah, that's

2793
03:04:22,440 --> 03:04:25,560
that's that's real white
supremecy however you said it

2794
03:04:25,770 --> 03:04:31,440
Yeah, that's very supremecy
Yeah, that's it cuz I said so

2795
03:04:31,920 --> 03:04:35,190
your dollar Oh, no. Your dollar
were half what it was

2796
03:04:37,860 --> 03:04:40,500
yeah, this is this is pretty
that's big. You've you've

2797
03:04:40,530 --> 03:04:43,740
actually this is this leaves it
open for many more episodes. The

2798
03:04:43,740 --> 03:04:48,720
way I see it, we got a lot more
a lot more ground to cover. And

2799
03:04:48,720 --> 03:04:53,640
really, we I mean, I'm, I need
to know who the fourth person

2800
03:04:53,640 --> 03:04:56,580
was in the room. This is bugging
the crap out of me. I need to

2801
03:04:56,580 --> 03:04:56,910
know who

2802
03:04:58,590 --> 03:05:04,440
we need to find that out and not
Want to make it clear? No one's

2803
03:05:04,440 --> 03:05:07,800
safe from this and when I mean
this, whatever you think you're

2804
03:05:07,800 --> 03:05:14,100
a bedrock of belief is Oh, no.
Vaccines used to be you take one

2805
03:05:14,100 --> 03:05:17,100
you get it for the rest of your
life. Herd immunity used to beat

2806
03:05:17,100 --> 03:05:20,310
now white supremacy came along
say no no herd immunity

2807
03:05:21,900 --> 03:05:24,570
never heard of herd immunity now
that's off the table. Have you

2808
03:05:24,570 --> 03:05:27,120
noticed that it's completely
gone? There is no such thing.

2809
03:05:27,120 --> 03:05:31,740
It's Oh, we're only 90%
vaccinated which at 80 You've

2810
03:05:31,740 --> 03:05:35,940
got herd immunity supposedly.
It's off the table. Yeah.

2811
03:05:37,470 --> 03:05:40,230
That's it. Like I said, that's
that one word, government.

2812
03:05:40,590 --> 03:05:45,270
That's that because I said so.
They were able to question

2813
03:05:45,300 --> 03:05:49,920
thank you for another
exhilarating lesson, really. I

2814
03:05:49,920 --> 03:05:53,010
mean, I learned so much here and
so much I missed and I'm kind of

2815
03:05:53,010 --> 03:05:57,030
kicking myself because this
Gillum thing, man, what a huge

2816
03:05:57,030 --> 03:06:00,120
what a huge rabbit hole and the
fourth person in the room

2817
03:06:03,180 --> 03:06:08,280
with a lot of innuendo to be
picked up on but I just found

2818
03:06:08,280 --> 03:06:13,530
that we say the DOJ is a
persecuting these black man. And

2819
03:06:13,530 --> 03:06:18,060
they're worried. Oh, and we got
to America. I'm looking at you.

2820
03:06:18,089 --> 03:06:20,579
Yeah, we got to figure out
what's going on. Because there's

2821
03:06:20,609 --> 03:06:23,879
there's big forces at work.
There's big things happening.

2822
03:06:24,449 --> 03:06:27,359
And it could be it could be
multiple parties, it could be

2823
03:06:27,359 --> 03:06:30,509
two different forces working
against each other. It seems

2824
03:06:30,509 --> 03:06:31,409
that that's possible.

2825
03:06:32,039 --> 03:06:34,649
Either way it pans out it's
gonna be interesting to watch

2826
03:06:34,679 --> 03:06:38,429
and we're seeing the pendulum
swinging back. We just need to

2827
03:06:38,429 --> 03:06:44,189
make sure we humanize people
have the empathetic seat first

2828
03:06:44,189 --> 03:06:47,789
to understand and be understood.
And then we can you know make

2829
03:06:47,789 --> 03:06:50,849
sure we don't swing too far back
the other way either to become

2830
03:06:50,849 --> 03:06:54,329
oppressive and just another
polar opposite manner.

2831
03:06:54,660 --> 03:06:57,330
I thank you for the work mo
fantastic well done.

2832
03:06:57,960 --> 03:07:01,980
I appreciate that. And as I
always say, pay attention to

2833
03:07:01,980 --> 03:07:04,230
everything and the truth who is
realistic

2834
03:07:04,740 --> 03:07:08,040
and we will reveal ourselves on
the next episode of moe facts

2835
03:07:08,040 --> 03:07:11,070
with Adam curry remember us at
mo facts.com Thanks brother.

2836
03:07:12,210 --> 03:08:14,400
I'll talk to you later that I
heard one. To use summon the

2837
03:08:14,400 --> 03:08:14,820
cloud

2838
03:08:54,360 --> 03:08:55,950
What's up