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More facts with Adam curry from
November 23 2021 This is episode

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number 71. We are back one week
after the last tapes time for

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another full on mo facts with
Adam curry. I am Adam curry

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coming to you from the heart of
Texas Hill Country. And we will

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be spinning that wheel of topics
once again with the man who

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knows how it goes from Northern
Virginia. Please say hello to my

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friend on the other end Mr. Bold
facts. Adam I am well now that

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I'm talking to you mo I'm doing
great. Yes, to be honest, I've

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I've had too many white opinions
the past week. Yes. As I was I

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was telling Tina, I said well,
I'm pretty sure I know where I'm

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not 100% Because, you know, we
don't really discuss much before

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the show. I'm pretty sure what
will be included somehow in

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today into this week's program.
I'm like, I cannot wait to talk

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to moe. I'm so excited.

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It was the unavoidable. I
intentionally kind of stayed

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away from this. And so I knew we
were gonna have to do a show on

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it and says I guess we can go
and spin the wheel.

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Yeah. Round around. He goes the
Wheel of Time Square stops.

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Nobody knows. Of course no facts
knows because he's put it all

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together for us. So what is the
topic for episode number 71 of

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Mo facts with Adam curry, under
real threat. Under Reatta

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threat, under real threat under
real threat. Okay, they're

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real threat. Dr. Reverend Al
Sharpton.

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Don't give him more credit. Now
with this doctrine.

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It basically is coming. That's
the new business model. But we

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got to talk about a cow. Yeah,
Rittenhouse aka killer cow, aka

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cow, the kid, depending on
what's on your own. And as you

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said, the opinions are abundant
on this topic, so I guess we had

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to weigh in on it.

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Yes, I will say that I watched
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And that's great. Because I
watched very little of the

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trial. Yes, I didn't clips
because I went I went back and

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looked at it to go down that
rabbit hole. I want it to be as

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unaged as possible, right? To
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Yes, exactly. No, no, this is
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prepared for what I saw in the
trial. And you know, and we'll

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just take it from there. But
yeah, opinions are the you write

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a lot of opinions about this
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And I just go off the top. I
really don't want to go to blow

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by blow making sure you're
seeing all the people do their

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law degrees. And of course, they
didn't get their law degree from

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SVU. Like I have.

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Yes, ladies and gentlemen. And
that really is a fine piece of

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paper. I'm all in on it.

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Yes. Many, many hours spent
doing coursework. So yes, so

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we're gonna have our unique take
as usual. And to start off, I

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guess we need to do a little
timeline, and we're going to use

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this ABC report

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on August 23 2020, Jacob Blake
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back by a police officer in
Kenosha, Wisconsin, after

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officers responded to a call
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according to the Wisconsin
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hours protests began in the city
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protesters and groups of armed
men who said they were there to

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protect businesses gathered in
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then 17 year old Kyle
Rittenhouse. We don't have non

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lethal using multiple videos
obtained and verified by ABC

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complaint against written house

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filed on August 27. We put
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the shootings that happened in
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25 2022 days after Jacob Blake
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Wow. Wow. Okay, hold on a
second. In addition to that, you

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need to know this, in addition
to the fact that, that I watched

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most of the trial, I think most
of the pertinent parts. I'm also

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right off the bat. I'll just
tell you my bias. I'm of the

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opinion that this was a media
SIOP, regardless of what

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happened. This was a media
psychological operation on the

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American public, and it was
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prosecution was at best You
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wall and Fox was breaking in.
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at bat, it was the exact
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got you message. So that that's
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starting off take as you know,
I'm completely open to anything.

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And be honest with everybody
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heard your tape. I did not
listen to the latest episode of

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no agenda for this is that
point? I don't know where you're

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coming from on this case. And
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the hardest try trial we're
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podcast, because everything is
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exactly. Wow. Shameless plug for
the Lost Tapes coming out next

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Wednesday.

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Supposed to do that's, that's
that's how it works. No, we,

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it's like ABC, we plug that we
do stories about our own

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entertainment products. That's
exactly how.

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But yeah, it's gonna be very
hard to translate what we're

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seeing. So that's why I didn't
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happened in this event? No, no,

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But I totally agree this was a
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incite only to strike fear. And
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upskirt to Lady Justice. I think
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I just got a visual on that. And
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you heard Lady Justice, and she
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She's always bought blindfold.
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going away from this now seeing
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Protestants to put the
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do anything to get you. Yeah.
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the so called so called, quote
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saying this for decades and
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starting to catch on. Say, we
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The tactics, the just all, I
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they actually just speak on the
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games with the video quality of
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of evidence. So the bright side
of this for me is everybody is

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going to be critical of the
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because it's not so justice
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but we see the tactics are that
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So I actually have not discussed
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no agenda yet. I was planning
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my opinion may be adjusted after
today's show. So what's

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interesting why you say look at
the prosecution, they'll do

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anything to get you what
actually happened after the

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after the verdict is that that
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Because all I heard MSNBC and
CNN saying it was very clear

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division between them and Fox
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would have been in jail for 25
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is, yeah, they're not wrong. But

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if he would, let me refine, it
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without $2 million to for his
defense, he would he would have

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been in jail. The only reason
why cow got off was the amount

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of support that came out for him
and you know, in legal fund to

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do all the groundwork and
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done to present his case,
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prosecution wanted him but let's
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what I want to do is we got to
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which was the whole

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Yes, the genesis of it all.
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And we're gonna see how hard
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issue. The cow Rittenhouse house
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because the Jacob Blake
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what now we have to do is go
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look at the law the facts the
truth of Jacob Blake. My handle

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is Nate the lawyer and welcome
to my YouTube spot. I am a

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former law enforcement officer,
former prosecutor and I taught

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at a law school for the past two
years. Currently, I'm a private

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attorney and I do private
practice as a Black Law

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Enforcement Officer as a former
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black attorney, I think it's
important to look at both the

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law and the facts of any
incident before you pass

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judgment. The most important
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you are the judge, you get to
decide whether things are

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justified or unjustified. And we
do that by looking at the facts

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and the law dispassionately. Now
we do have to understand the

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cultural contexts of the times
we're living in racism plays a

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factor in some of these things,
but not always. And we have to

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understand when race does play a
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those are two important
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we're gonna try to see if we
need those questions today with

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the case of Robert Blake. But to
do that, I'm going to need more

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of your attention than I usually
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teach you or show you examples,
and then apply the law to Mr.

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Blake's situation. And that's
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a clearer understanding of what
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Now, this is a well known
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Yes, this is Nate, the lawyer.
And I think he does the best

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work. He's on a hot streak right
now. As far as the number of

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cases he's called correctly. And
we're going to be using him

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throughout the show. Can I can
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Can I I'm sorry. To do this. I
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before we got into this, I think
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the producers. I'm in agreement
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Defense Fund was incredibly
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And this this, you know, there's
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before including Linwood, I know
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that, but there's a lot of
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But I just want to know, do you
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who had $2 million, he also
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verdict? Because that's kind of
gets kind of what the, the

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differentiator here is, you
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have gone to jail because he was
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the same amount of resources?

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If he had the same amount of
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the same outcome. Okay. Because
we saw this with OJ, you have a

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lawyer, and that's the thing
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businessman followed by file at
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This is how America works. It's
like, you have lawyers to watch

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your lawyers, you know, that
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stone unturned. If you're
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case. Well, a public defended
against this prosecution. No,

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you're gonna, you're gonna be so

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this is a great take on this
trial. I'm so glad you're doing

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it this way. Okay. We can go
back to the what's his name? The

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YouTube lawyers. This is this is
make the law your neighbor,

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lawyer, Nate's a lawyer? Yes. So
he I like him already. By the

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way. I like how he's talking. So
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I'll play the opening, because
it's kind of a great opening to

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the show is well, that we're
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that are law, and then we could
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what's the emotional impact or
what, what we think? What they

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don't call it, they call it
justice now, but that's not real

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justice, justice. This by the
letter of the law. Now, it's

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about all what we what feels
right. What we think should

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happen. So now Nate is the
lawyer is going to get into what

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he what he thought the outcome
of that Jacob Blake situation

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should have been in clipping
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Now, I know you want to have
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there is no evidence of
institutional racism today. Both

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people are either lying to you
or being dishonest. Now, I've

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said that to say this.

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This situation, Mr. Blake, I
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Now, if you want to argue about
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responded the way they did,
whether he was an actual threat,

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those I think are legitimate
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well, how come this happens to
African Americans at a

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disproportionate rate? That's a
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be rolled half. But for this
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that race had this overarching
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hard for me to swallow. And I
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understand the need for social
justice and social change. But I

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don't think this is the case to
make that argument for. I just

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don't try one more. Yes. Walter
Scott. Yes. George Floyd?

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Obviously. Marbury. Yes. This
case, I'm just not there. All

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right. And it's amazing how they
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the A Marbury case. How Oh, no.

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Thank you that yes, that was my
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running concurrently and the
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I immediately said, Oh, this
just confirms my my whole

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psychological operation
thinking. Hmm.

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And it could have been some
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too, because it was some kind of
funny Blood Moon. Yeah, you're

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right, a hole, which is no, it's
also known as a sacrificial

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moon. It's not that I was
looking bad for cows. I was

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like, at the bottom. So yes, so
that's Nate Deloria. He says

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that Jacob Blake and just let
people know Jacob Blake was the

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man that was shot seven times.
That was the genesis of this

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whole situation. So now we had
to go a timeline within the

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timeline. Let

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me just say one thing about
Jacob Blake. Sure. Because there

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was a knife in the way in close
proximity, which he admitted to

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I mean, I've seen I've seen the
hidden meaning to it on TV, to

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the the only thing I just want
to add to that, knowing a lot of

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law enforcement, if there's a
person who was who is intent on

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stabbing you blading you learn
the lingo. Within 21 feet, they

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absolutely have a chance of
killing you, even if you have a

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gun.

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Okay, and that's we saw a
similar case with a young lady

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that was shot in Ohio, where she
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she was a threat to another
person and may decide to use

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lethal force. No, but we have to
go back because Jacob Blyton

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situation was very clear cut, we
had a video that saw the whole

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situation. But they had to drag
it out to make it seem like it's

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something something and it
wasn't. So now we're going to go

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and listen to what actually took
place in that situation. Before

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we get into the Rittenhouse
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because I felt like I was dying.
I was counting down the breaths.

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I was given the moment Jacob
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die.

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I was counting down my breath
and my blinks because I was just

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staring right at the sky
watching the clouds. I was like

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God, I'm coming. I guess if it
wasn't

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the 29 year old speak it out for
the first time. Almost five

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months after being shot seven
times by police. You didn't

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resist.

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I resisted getting beaten. What
I mean by that? Is not

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following. Not letting them put
a head on my neck. That's all I

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was thinking. Honestly.

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Like is now partially paralyzed
from the waist down. A moment

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captured by bystanders
eventually going viral. Yeah, so

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that's that's how they played it
up. And I don't know how

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straight hand said that. He said
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that a command? Or was that a
question? Cuz it was unclear? It

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was unclear. Yeah. It kind of
like is like they edited in

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afterwards. It was very, very
unnatural. Yeah. Or distal kind

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of editing there. Because it's
like he made a statement. But

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and he's following clips, you're
gonna see he understands what

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really went on. And to be honest
with you, when everybody saw the

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tape, let me just let me say
like this, nobody deserves to be

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shot seven times. Let me just
say, Oh, if you're moving away

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from the suspect, um, I believe,
but as a cop justified to do it.

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Yes. Is that the law? Yes. Um,
and I'll say this in a

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situation. If we're talking
about the number of shots,

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that's totally different from
whether a shot should have been

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fired. If you're moving away
from anybody, let's just like if

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I'm going to tell some what
somebody and they're going into

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their car. Best believe? Yeah,
I'm assuming the worst, I'm not

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gonna sit here and wait for you
to pull out whatever. He had to

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pull out whatever. And then, you
know, I lose my upper hand. So

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in that case, I completely
understand. I think the

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frustration is the number of
shots. And that number of shots.

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The reason why I'm bringing this
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headline, man. And nothing after
that even mattered why he was

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shot or anything else. He could
have been shot 123 times in a

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row. And

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I think that's because it was a
great headline, and it becomes a

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story because everybody can
agree on that. Now, that's not

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fair. Because neither you or I
were a cop in that position. You

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have no idea. I mean, we really
don't know. But everybody can

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agree. Damn, that seems like a
lot.

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This the number we're talking
about is our headline value.

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Yeah. Because like, like we both
agree. A lot of people only read

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headlines. I'm just gonna go to
the YouTube video title here.

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Jacob Blake tells his story
after being shot seven times by

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police.

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The encounter marking the climax
of a summer rock by reckoning.

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Protesters adding the name Jacob
Blake to their rallying cry.

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Joining those of George Floyd
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We call for action echoing
across America. From celebrities

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to athletes. We are scared as an

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activist demanding justice for
the ever growing lift of black

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victims shot by police.

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I didn't want to be the next
George Floyd. I didn't want to

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die.

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Oh man. Okay, so I love that
we're not doing video because I

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haven't seen any of this. And
I'm just listening to it. It's

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masterful we as black people are
afraid I mean, this is some good

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mind control.

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And that frustrated me we every
time I hear LeBron James say

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that because to be a 600 Give me
a six foot seven six foot nine.

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Black man almost 300 pounds
252 60 We're almost a billion

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dollars bro. You shouldn't be
scared because that what that

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was just doing is playing into
this fearful black man role like

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oh, we're just walking around
the street street scared every

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day know what we are all aware
and that's why I was so

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frustrated with Jacob Blake is
the fact that you're aware

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what's going to happen if you
don't listen to commands wrestle

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with cops and then move it to
your car. Everybody knows that's

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the that's that idea of
prescription for hot dosa lead I

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mean he is this bait man to our
understanding that's that talk

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that we used to talk about a lot
but we haven't talked about so

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much that kind of thing like if
a if you get you just and just

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comply get your one phone call
call bell out and you go home

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you know, to wrestle with
somebody know what the outcome

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can be. It's not always that
case. But it can be and you can

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take it there so that's why they
didn't get very much traction

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with the story when it first was
rolled out.

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Right but the seven shots helped
the

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semi shot still that's just to
say it seven shots just rolls

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off your tongue and that thing
goddess Cambus own life and a

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lot of people were doing

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powerful number seven you know
Yeah.

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The other thing Yeah, that's the
other thing it's like the very

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powerful number because it just
rounds up the team shots we you

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processing it. I mean when you
process numbers like that,

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that's why they use certain
numbers in certain

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ways. Also, you know, you gotta
you gotta people think gun

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submitted think revolver six
shots six shooter five, seven.

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Are you gonna get lucky today
punk? I mean, you just get

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there's something about

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it. Yeah. So that mean that's
that's all understand. That's,

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that's all plays into it. So now
we got Jacob Blake, he's talking

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about his being shot. Now we're
gonna have straight hand push

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back a little bit and likes kind
of reiterate what I was saying

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about it's kind of understood
when you behave in that manner.

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What could happen? Records show
that off through Chesky records,

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telling Blake quote, let's talk
about this. As Blake places one

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of the kids in the car. He then
tells Blake he had the warrant

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and tries to arrest him. They
didn't say why they were there.

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Anything. Did they tell you that

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they had a warrant for your
arrest?

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No. I thought that it had been
over with

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police deploy stun gun multiple
times. Blake pulled two prongs

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out of his skins. Officer Shecky
and Blake end up in a physical

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altercation on the ground. We
see you you walk away from the

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officers after they tried to
grab you.

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At that point. I'm rattled. I
realized I had dropped my knife.

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A little pocket knife. So I
picked it up after I got off of

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him. Because they tased me and I
fell on top of him. Isn't there

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probably face on the window. I'm
about to get and check on my

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kids. In the video, you hear him
Sam dropped a knife. I think a

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couple people were saying that
but I didn't hear none of that.

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Blake turns away from the
officers and walks around the

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front of the vehicle towards the
driver's side door. What are you

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thinking at that point?

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I have picked my knife up. I'm
like, I'm not really worried.

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I'm walking away from them. So
it's not like they're gonna

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shoot me. I shouldn't have
picked it up. At that time. I

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wasn't thinking clearly.

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Anyway, this is the interviewers
Michael Strahan. Yes. How they

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give him the weirdest gigs.

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But he had to find a black man.

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Well, yeah, but that's what I'm
saying. It's like they usually

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they they put him in a dress
they make him do The

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uncomfortable bullcrap segment
on the morning show but then

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this is a this is a big one they
can they give it to him it's

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like it's a cheese he more
blatant about it please ABC

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well that and that's that's it
that's why I said they had to

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find a black man we see every
time that somebody is

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interviewed and these kinds of
situations they're like oh we

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got black Are you seeing it with
the MSE NBC panel because

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it's Miko stray cough because
it's Miko stray hand that's why

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you actually think wow, they
really did just go who we got

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this black. Although correct,
although I kind of dig it. I

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think it's interesting to hear
him do this.

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Yes, and the only thing I can
say on MSNBC panels you see this

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as well. People I'll take a day
off so they can have a black

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anchor on their shoulders
usually hosted by a white

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person.

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Yeah, it's very obvious. And I
love the amber what's her name

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with the with a big afro? I
mean, it's pouring it on now. We

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got Cleopatra Jones on MSNBC.

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Yeah, I don't think she does the
MSNBC the one on line is Wales.

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It's the company's great.

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I love watching her I can't get
enough of her but holy crap.

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Yes. Um, as you can hear,
Michael straight hand is kind of

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like a well, you did kind of get
tased Yeah. Yeah, this is what

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made it so hard for this. And
the point I'm making is the fact

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that this was so hard for him
and a non starter cow

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Rittenhouse was a godsend for
them.

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Right all the all the elements
were there. Yeah, cuz

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you had it, they tried to
wrestle with you. They shot you

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with a few tasers, you still got
to dry the weapons up your

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knife. Right? Why wanting your
car

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with it. And what people got to
understand is it's just so it's

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gonna be brought up again in the
clips, is his kids was in the

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car. And his and the mother of
his children had called the cops

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and say, Hey, he's trying to
steal the car. So when the kids

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they don't know if it's the kid,
and they don't know, if there's

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a kidnap situation, they don't
know what and I'm not saying I'm

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not taking up for the police any
kind of way. But it's the

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context, you always have this
site, because the reason why I

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don't take up for police is
they're professionals, the same

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way I look at them, like
doctors, with the with the coop

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situation, it's like, if you're
a professional, you're expected

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to have a higher standard than
an average citizen. Um, like I

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said, the same way I look at
doctors with the Cuf. Like,

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y'all are supposed to have a
higher standard than even

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newscasters. Anybody else. So,
um, yeah, so they're processing

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all this in a matter of seconds.
And for the ELMO say this,

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people, everybody needs to stop
calling the police for

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everything. Um, these kinds of
things used to be solved within

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the community. And what I mean,
by all mean, the black

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community, I'm just saying, if
it was a domestic dispute, the

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man would come in and say, Man,
go walk it off. You know, that

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kind of thing.

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I totally agree with you mo it
is, it is a male problem, we

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have become a nation of pussies
who want to call someone about

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something else. In the end, what
bugged me the most is exactly

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that. And now in Austin, but of
course, we left. They what

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they're doing is they're,
instead of going that direction,

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I think you and I would like to
say, hey, let's just do this in

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the community. We got men around
here, we should just, you know,

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just settle things, you know, we
all have to live together. No,

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instead, now they're taking
that, you know, that policing

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role, because people always call
911. And now they're giving it

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to social workers, which
probably the worst thing you can

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do, they're gonna get their
asses beat. It's so stupid. And

439
00:28:50,939 --> 00:28:53,519
we have, it's always I'm going
to sue you. I'm going to do

440
00:28:53,519 --> 00:28:56,879
this. We don't discuss things.
We don't work things out amongst

441
00:28:56,879 --> 00:28:59,369
each other anymore, regardless
of race.

442
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:03,630
Well, people think the police
are like, there to play games

443
00:29:03,630 --> 00:29:06,360
with them. Yeah, when you call
the police, they're there to

444
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:10,620
take somebody to jail. That's
their, that's their job is you

445
00:29:10,620 --> 00:29:14,460
don't call him out there to
break up domestic disputes. And

446
00:29:14,460 --> 00:29:17,370
what I mean by that, like, oh,
you you and your brother in law

447
00:29:17,370 --> 00:29:20,040
had a few too many drinks and
you kept bumping,

448
00:29:20,069 --> 00:29:23,879
right, but it's a phone misuse,
and the citizens need to know

449
00:29:23,879 --> 00:29:27,299
it. And it's the same with EMT,
I've many EMT friends and they

450
00:29:27,299 --> 00:29:29,669
get caught and they have to
respond. They can't they can't

451
00:29:29,669 --> 00:29:32,609
say no, we're not going to the
call. They'll get there. And

452
00:29:32,609 --> 00:29:35,429
it's a morbidly obese person who
saying I can't get my

453
00:29:35,429 --> 00:29:40,319
cigarettes. Can you get them off
of the table? Wow. Yes, yes,

454
00:29:40,319 --> 00:29:42,149
this kind of shit. It's
unbelievable.

455
00:29:42,690 --> 00:29:45,660
So yeah, that's one thing that
we can do to resolve a lot of

456
00:29:45,660 --> 00:29:50,910
these incidences I don't know.
I'll say it like this. If he

457
00:29:50,910 --> 00:29:54,570
wasn't real threat, men call the
police and obviously she thought

458
00:29:54,570 --> 00:29:57,840
he was a real threat but if you
just think he's gonna go ride

459
00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:01,050
around the block and come back
once you blow some steam Don't

460
00:30:01,050 --> 00:30:05,250
call the police. Um, and for him
is that he forgot he thought the

461
00:30:05,250 --> 00:30:08,790
work situation was over. No.
Everybody knows from a speeding

462
00:30:08,790 --> 00:30:13,590
ticket to try parking tickets or
whatever else, you know, when

463
00:30:13,590 --> 00:30:15,480
you got something lingering over
your head dealing with the

464
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:19,950
court, I now find that hard to
believe this from my from my

465
00:30:19,950 --> 00:30:23,310
viewpoint. So, um, with that
said, we can go ahead and get

466
00:30:23,310 --> 00:30:25,470
into part four of this clip, you
you

467
00:30:25,470 --> 00:30:28,350
said that we can just look at
the video, the video tells

468
00:30:28,380 --> 00:30:30,630
everything we're going to be a
lot of people who look at the

469
00:30:30,630 --> 00:30:34,230
video and say in the video,
you're walking away from the

470
00:30:34,230 --> 00:30:38,760
police. So why didn't he just
stop and do what the police are

471
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:39,840
asking him to do?

472
00:30:39,900 --> 00:30:44,010
I couldn't hear that. All I
heard was screaming screaming.

473
00:30:44,100 --> 00:30:47,580
My ears was ringing so it was
all muffled

474
00:30:48,329 --> 00:30:50,489
if the police were fighting me
if they were if they were

475
00:30:50,489 --> 00:30:54,509
teasing me. I was stopped
walking away from them, and they

476
00:30:54,509 --> 00:30:55,559
will have my attention.

477
00:30:55,739 --> 00:30:59,849
And when it has saved me I have
my hands up. So,

478
00:31:00,990 --> 00:31:04,260
Officer Shecky his attorney
insists, quote, the officers

479
00:31:04,260 --> 00:31:07,830
were compelled to use force once
Blake began actively resisting

480
00:31:07,830 --> 00:31:10,890
their verbal commands, adding
that the claim the officer

481
00:31:10,890 --> 00:31:13,770
didn't say anything to him
during the application is quote

482
00:31:13,770 --> 00:31:18,180
preposterous. As Blake opens the
door of the car, Officer Shecky

483
00:31:18,180 --> 00:31:21,840
claims Blake drove the knife
toward his body. Blake denies

484
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:25,500
this. Officer Shecky then grabs
Blake by the back of his shirt

485
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:27,510
and shoots him seven times.

486
00:31:29,220 --> 00:31:33,330
Yeah, I gotta say, I think stray
Han has a career doing crime.

487
00:31:34,860 --> 00:31:37,920
Yeah, I mean, he did a great
interview. The way you can hear

488
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:42,450
him say a lot of people would
say he kind of brought it on

489
00:31:42,450 --> 00:31:44,520
yourself. Yeah, that's kind of
what he was saying.

490
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:48,030
Well, but he's approaching it
from I like that. He's he is

491
00:31:48,030 --> 00:31:51,030
speaking like a black man to a
black man. I can hear that. He's

492
00:31:51,030 --> 00:31:54,270
like, Come on, man. Am I am I am
I wrong?

493
00:31:54,630 --> 00:31:58,950
Like will is justifiable or I
mean your actions were

494
00:31:58,950 --> 00:32:04,050
justifiable No. You wrestling
taste

495
00:32:04,799 --> 00:32:09,509
right straight. said this guy
hands like no don't get my

496
00:32:09,509 --> 00:32:12,869
attention. I mean, I can hear
you say that mo I think it's a

497
00:32:12,869 --> 00:32:16,379
very funny way of saying it like
you dumb ass. I think stray

498
00:32:16,379 --> 00:32:17,639
hands saying that don't you?

499
00:32:18,090 --> 00:32:21,150
Yes, I agree. I totally agree
with him but he couldn't just

500
00:32:21,150 --> 00:32:23,040
come out and say it he says a
lot of people with

501
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:27,450
ABC can't do that. I can't talk
like that on ABC Of course not.

502
00:32:28,049 --> 00:32:32,219
But why not? And that's that
lets you know when situation

503
00:32:32,249 --> 00:32:36,089
Yeah, is bigger than they had to
keep the ball rolling and this

504
00:32:36,089 --> 00:32:39,149
was much later now the the he
got out the hospital or

505
00:32:39,149 --> 00:32:43,259
everything else. They still were
giving it a little fuel and feel

506
00:32:43,259 --> 00:32:49,259
to define when did the protest
start? Oh, this the process for

507
00:32:49,259 --> 00:32:53,279
his after his shooting? It
started immediate immediately.

508
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,140
Okay. Yeah, cuz, yes. All right.

509
00:32:56,370 --> 00:33:01,920
But the problem was, um, when
people actually saw the video,

510
00:33:02,190 --> 00:33:04,320
it was hard to get a real.

511
00:33:05,279 --> 00:33:08,579
It wasn't usable. All they had
was seven shots. Everything else

512
00:33:08,579 --> 00:33:09,449
was no good.

513
00:33:10,050 --> 00:33:13,830
Right. But that's when I think
they had to engage the third way

514
00:33:13,860 --> 00:33:17,580
that we talked about, huh? And
and bring in the criminals.

515
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:19,620
Yeah, it's like somebody crossed
state

516
00:33:19,619 --> 00:33:20,759
lines probably.

517
00:33:22,019 --> 00:33:27,569
Yeah. So they can get like legit
protesters out there. Might with

518
00:33:27,569 --> 00:33:31,079
George floor and other cases
that we've seen. So I think

519
00:33:31,109 --> 00:33:36,209
that's why you saw the assembly
of characters that was involved

520
00:33:36,209 --> 00:33:39,449
in Rittenhouse case. Yeah, these
were these were higher hands.

521
00:33:39,450 --> 00:33:42,030
They wrote up a bunch of
criminals. You're right, man.

522
00:33:42,030 --> 00:33:45,030
Absolutely. And that's yes.
Right. No, no,

523
00:33:45,329 --> 00:33:48,539
I'm on board. Yeah. That's the
point I'm trying to make of it

524
00:33:48,539 --> 00:33:53,069
was just a bad situation that
they couldn't spend any way. So

525
00:33:53,069 --> 00:33:57,179
now they use all that energy
went into the Rittenhouse case.

526
00:33:59,189 --> 00:34:02,129
The political energy, the
political energy, yeah. So now

527
00:34:02,159 --> 00:34:06,269
this is Kamala Harris. So yeah.
And this is her.

528
00:34:06,629 --> 00:34:09,809
Unbelievable. Unbelievable. This
is unbelievable.

529
00:34:10,169 --> 00:34:13,109
And her speaking on the meeting
with Jacob Blake's family.

530
00:34:13,500 --> 00:34:16,290
I sat down with Democratic vice
presidential nominee Senator

531
00:34:16,290 --> 00:34:20,820
Kamala Harris Thursday afternoon
for a wide ranging conversation

532
00:34:20,820 --> 00:34:25,710
on the issues facing Americans
in this unique presidential

533
00:34:25,740 --> 00:34:29,640
election year and we started. We
started with the Jacob Blake

534
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:35,460
case, the man shot seven times
by police in Wisconsin. As I

535
00:34:35,460 --> 00:34:37,920
understand, you've talked to
Jacob Blake's family. Yeah.

536
00:34:38,490 --> 00:34:40,020
Yeah. What was that conversation
like?

537
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:47,400
First of all, his family.
They're really wonderful and

538
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:51,870
extraordinary people. They have
suffered so much, you know, he

539
00:34:51,870 --> 00:34:58,080
has six children. Three his sons
who the eldest what was it was

540
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:03,870
his eighth birthday that day.
Right. And so it was a family

541
00:35:03,870 --> 00:35:07,680
conversation and it was his
sister, his father, his mother,

542
00:35:08,310 --> 00:35:14,070
and they're just full of grace
and, and pain. Right? That's

543
00:35:14,070 --> 00:35:19,200
coexisting for them. And, and I
talked again with his mother.

544
00:35:19,950 --> 00:35:24,420
But Joe was so good. But then,
you know, Joe Biden, I, you

545
00:35:24,420 --> 00:35:29,010
know, he has had conversations
with, with Jacobs family with

546
00:35:29,010 --> 00:35:32,520
Mr. Blake's family. He has had
conversations with Mr. Floyd's

547
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:38,310
family with Mr. Apres family.
And he says, you know, and they

548
00:35:38,310 --> 00:35:40,530
need to be seen, they need to be
heard. And I think that's the

549
00:35:40,530 --> 00:35:45,360
important thing about these
conversations. He sees

550
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:49,470
them. Yes. Well, you have to we
got to bring Joe back from the

551
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:52,680
if you if you don't vote for me,
you ain't black. You know, we

552
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:54,450
got a sausage a little bit.

553
00:35:54,810 --> 00:35:57,930
But you know, how condescending
is it for somebody to say I see

554
00:35:57,930 --> 00:36:03,240
you I see you, Adam. Oh, yeah. I
see. What what is that, like, I

555
00:36:03,240 --> 00:36:04,320
don't want to be seen.

556
00:36:04,559 --> 00:36:07,679
That's, that's actually kind of
like a cringy. White woman thing

557
00:36:07,679 --> 00:36:08,249
to say.

558
00:36:09,090 --> 00:36:12,780
In that that's that that's that
whole, we see you. We

559
00:36:12,780 --> 00:36:16,110
acknowledge you we don't want to
be acknowledged and seen that

560
00:36:16,140 --> 00:36:19,740
that whole thing and that Oh,
Joe, he's so wonderful. And in

561
00:36:19,740 --> 00:36:23,190
the family, all their
extraordinary and graceful, but

562
00:36:24,090 --> 00:36:28,890
graceful? I'm gonna say this, if
my son had been shot seven times

563
00:36:28,890 --> 00:36:33,390
wrongly, and something that he
didn't know, have any part in to

564
00:36:33,390 --> 00:36:36,120
bring it upon itself. The last
thing I would be is damn

565
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:41,220
graceful. Right? What is that?
He they're graceful. If she had

566
00:36:41,220 --> 00:36:50,070
to walk this line of don't be
too aggressive, but we can't

567
00:36:50,070 --> 00:36:51,900
seem too weak, either. Here's,

568
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:56,640
here's here's the real question
for me. And Tina and I were

569
00:36:56,640 --> 00:37:01,380
talking about this maybe for the
past two days. Do we think that

570
00:37:02,370 --> 00:37:06,450
the reason that Kamala Harris
actually believes these men were

571
00:37:06,450 --> 00:37:09,990
wronged all of them, but let's
just say to keep it with Blake

572
00:37:09,990 --> 00:37:14,730
to keep it easy? Because she
only reads a briefing sees a

573
00:37:14,730 --> 00:37:20,430
headline and just has a bias and
is just rolling with it? Or is

574
00:37:20,430 --> 00:37:25,800
she really that calculated? And
is she is this all premeditated.

575
00:37:25,950 --> 00:37:30,390
She's acting here regardless
because that's her job. But do

576
00:37:30,390 --> 00:37:33,030
you think that she really knows
what's going on? And I just

577
00:37:33,030 --> 00:37:36,180
questioned if these I think
these people are like most of

578
00:37:36,180 --> 00:37:40,530
America, they just look at a
headline and know how they feel

579
00:37:40,530 --> 00:37:43,590
about the world and just fits in
this narrative. And and that's

580
00:37:43,590 --> 00:37:45,690
what everyone's saying. Anyway.
So let's go Brandon.

581
00:37:47,310 --> 00:37:53,460
For her to be a potential
Supreme Court justice. nominee.

582
00:37:54,690 --> 00:37:58,140
I won't I won't better. Like I
was saying about the cops. I

583
00:37:58,140 --> 00:38:02,370
want somebody you your whole
career is in law. You had no

584
00:38:02,370 --> 00:38:08,880
problem with locking up. Women
who had children with truancy

585
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:13,290
problems, who thought we covered
in the case, we cover the case

586
00:38:13,290 --> 00:38:16,980
of the man that she tried to
lock up wrongfully? So no.

587
00:38:17,820 --> 00:38:20,100
Oh, blocked blocked up dope
smokers.

588
00:38:20,670 --> 00:38:24,240
Right? Don't smokers? I don't
think this is Oh, now she's

589
00:38:24,240 --> 00:38:28,740
found Jesus. No, no, I think is
that, hey, I got to make sure

590
00:38:28,740 --> 00:38:32,160
Joe looks as good as possible.
So I can take the spot from and

591
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:35,280
when it's time, I can never make
it to the White House of Joe

592
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:37,740
doesn't make it to the White
House. And I think that's her

593
00:38:37,740 --> 00:38:42,600
whole thing. Of You can't sit
here and see what I saw was

594
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:47,760
straight handsaw. And say
there's any gray area there,

595
00:38:47,790 --> 00:38:51,480
right? You just can't just can't
know. Especially if your your

596
00:38:52,140 --> 00:38:56,130
your career is in law. That's
what frustrates me about her.

597
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:59,790
This is not some this is not
Sarah Palin. It is no not Sarah

598
00:38:59,790 --> 00:39:02,670
Palin. What I'm just saying is
this is not some random woman

599
00:39:02,670 --> 00:39:05,910
that was selected to be BP.
She's supposed to have a long

600
00:39:05,910 --> 00:39:10,890
history in law enforcement. And
to sit here and say, well, the

601
00:39:10,890 --> 00:39:15,060
things that she gonna say in
this video is just amazes me. So

602
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:17,490
I guess we can go and get into
part two of this clip.

603
00:39:18,720 --> 00:39:22,470
As a former prosecutor, and
someone who worked closely with

604
00:39:22,470 --> 00:39:25,620
police for years, based on what
you see and what you know about

605
00:39:25,620 --> 00:39:29,100
the case, is there a scenario in
which, of course,

606
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:32,880
I want you to notice how you can
start this clip over when she's

607
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:36,300
annoyed and I've listened to
knock Kumala got her tail now.

608
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:42,270
No Noid with a question. Yeah,
she hits you with this flat dog.

609
00:39:42,330 --> 00:39:42,780
Yeah.

610
00:39:43,890 --> 00:39:48,150
That's her tell. Okay, that's my
question catch.

611
00:39:48,149 --> 00:39:51,929
Here we go. As a former
prosecutor, and someone who

612
00:39:51,929 --> 00:39:56,369
worked closely with police for
years, what do you know about

613
00:39:56,369 --> 00:40:01,499
the case? Is there a scenario in
which that office or would have

614
00:40:01,499 --> 00:40:04,769
been justified, was justified in
firing his weapon?

615
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:09,720
Craig, I don't I don't see it.
But I don't have all the

616
00:40:09,720 --> 00:40:13,260
evidence. From what I saw

617
00:40:14,610 --> 00:40:17,580
that just remind people what the
question Question was because

618
00:40:17,580 --> 00:40:21,000
she does this way. Oh, I got to
give it to her to how you forget

619
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:24,570
what the question was about she
get time she gets done. But the

620
00:40:24,570 --> 00:40:30,330
question was, is there any
scenario? Any, from what we saw

621
00:40:30,390 --> 00:40:32,940
where the cat will be justified?
I just remind people to question

622
00:40:32,940 --> 00:40:34,740
14 answers would have

623
00:40:34,740 --> 00:40:40,260
been justified, was justified in
firing his weapon? Correct? I

624
00:40:40,260 --> 00:40:45,420
don't I don't see it. But I
don't have all the evidence. You

625
00:40:45,420 --> 00:40:48,420
know, from what I saw, which is
what the public has seen. So you

626
00:40:48,420 --> 00:40:51,390
know, I'm not the prosecutor in
the case. I don't have all the

627
00:40:51,390 --> 00:40:55,860
evidence. But you know, the man
was, was going to his car, he

628
00:40:55,860 --> 00:40:59,880
didn't appear to be armed. And
if he was not armed, if he was

629
00:40:59,880 --> 00:41:06,000
not armed. The use of force that
was seven bullets coming out of

630
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:13,800
a gun at close range in the back
of the man. I don't see how any

631
00:41:13,830 --> 00:41:17,670
buddy couldn't reason that that
was justifiable. The officer

632
00:41:17,670 --> 00:41:21,210
should be charged. I think that
there should be a thorough

633
00:41:21,210 --> 00:41:25,470
investigation. And based on what
I've seen, it seems that the

634
00:41:25,470 --> 00:41:26,550
officers should be charged.

635
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:30,870
Yeah. Okay, madam, Vice
President, here's your talking

636
00:41:30,870 --> 00:41:33,900
boy, we really want to hit the
seven shots. So that's really

637
00:41:33,900 --> 00:41:37,140
what we want to just kind of
focus on the seven, seven shots

638
00:41:37,140 --> 00:41:40,230
would really be in the back, get
seven shots, I would really be

639
00:41:40,230 --> 00:41:41,940
helpful. Madam President, Vice
President.

640
00:41:42,870 --> 00:41:46,050
Anytime these questions are
asked like straight hands,

641
00:41:46,050 --> 00:41:49,290
asking like I forget this
gentleman's name over MSNBC,

642
00:41:49,770 --> 00:41:52,800
that means you really don't have
a leg to stand on. And it's like

643
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:56,970
the public is saying this. So
they have in good faith. I mean,

644
00:41:57,060 --> 00:41:59,580
put that in the world since
Nixon is with the media, but

645
00:41:59,880 --> 00:42:03,870
they know they have it. I can't
go out here and not ask this

646
00:42:03,870 --> 00:42:08,550
question. Or it would just be
blaming that on the tape. So you

647
00:42:08,550 --> 00:42:11,700
saw straight hand had to ask a
tough question. You saw he had

648
00:42:11,700 --> 00:42:15,570
to ask a tough question. And
anything that he gave her out to

649
00:42:16,140 --> 00:42:19,860
any scenarios? Yeah. She could
have easily said, Well, you

650
00:42:19,860 --> 00:42:24,090
know, but you can see, you can
hear the calculations going in

651
00:42:24,090 --> 00:42:27,660
her head to say, well, you know,
I don't have all the evidence.

652
00:42:27,660 --> 00:42:29,190
And I saw what the people saw
him.

653
00:42:29,220 --> 00:42:31,920
Yeah, but she's not sharp. She's
not sharp, because you're right.

654
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:33,330
She didn't pick up on that out.

655
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:37,500
Right. He gave her out. And he
is he made it clear in any

656
00:42:37,500 --> 00:42:43,380
scenario. So, um, yeah, Kamal,
we know her past. We know what

657
00:42:43,380 --> 00:42:46,770
she's known for a long time
people love. So if this was in

658
00:42:46,770 --> 00:42:50,040
her district, and she was doing
handcuffs

659
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:50,910
on Willie Brown.

660
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:54,030
I don't think that was

661
00:42:55,050 --> 00:42:57,300
painted pink handcuffs? Yes.

662
00:42:59,220 --> 00:43:04,680
So um, yeah, so I don't I don't
buy it at all. But she had to go

663
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:07,260
out and she had to go out and do
what she had to do. And this is

664
00:43:07,260 --> 00:43:09,630
just remind people this is
during the election cycle. Yeah.

665
00:43:09,630 --> 00:43:10,620
So they were saying

666
00:43:10,650 --> 00:43:14,370
anything, anything to make sure
they got elected. And the

667
00:43:14,370 --> 00:43:18,240
media was even worse than it is
now as far as the suppression of

668
00:43:18,270 --> 00:43:22,320
information. So for her to have
me brought and ask these

669
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:26,670
questions, you know, that it was
public, and the public these

670
00:43:26,670 --> 00:43:30,060
questions were swirling. So
let's go ahead and get into the

671
00:43:30,060 --> 00:43:31,980
third and final piece of this
clip.

672
00:43:32,189 --> 00:43:34,649
To those who are seeing right
now across this country. There

673
00:43:34,649 --> 00:43:37,919
are a lot of folks who are
saying, Here's a man who

674
00:43:38,549 --> 00:43:42,959
wouldn't follow police commands.
Law enforcement tried to use a

675
00:43:42,959 --> 00:43:47,849
teaser. And then he apparently
is reaching into a car where a

676
00:43:47,849 --> 00:43:51,389
knife was later found. And
because of those reasons, we

677
00:43:51,389 --> 00:43:54,419
should reserve judgment and the
officer should be afforded due

678
00:43:54,419 --> 00:43:56,609
process. What would you say to
those people who are saying that

679
00:43:57,090 --> 00:43:59,880
everyone should be afforded due
process? I agree with that

680
00:43:59,880 --> 00:44:02,760
completely. That is absolutely
one of the important tenants of

681
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:09,360
our, of our system of justice.
But here's the thing. In

682
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:15,600
America, we know these cases
keep happening. And we have had

683
00:44:15,630 --> 00:44:20,190
too many black men in America
will have been the subject of

684
00:44:20,190 --> 00:44:24,360
this kind of conduct. And, and
many of whom have lost their

685
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:28,320
lives and we speak their names
all the time. Again, George

686
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:34,050
Floyd, just as the most recent
been a most public example of

687
00:44:34,050 --> 00:44:36,420
this, and it's got to stop.

688
00:44:36,630 --> 00:44:39,600
Two hours ago, I heard the vice
president say Vice President

689
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:44,280
Biden, I heard him say that the
President was rooting for more

690
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:46,290
violence. He thought President
Trump was rooting for more

691
00:44:46,290 --> 00:44:50,130
violence. How does more violence
help the President?

692
00:44:52,110 --> 00:44:57,450
I mean, I can't look past
Kellyanne Conway. I don't know.

693
00:44:57,930 --> 00:44:59,610
That's not my that's not my
deal.

694
00:45:02,639 --> 00:45:07,199
So, once he doubled down, I was
like, Yo, this looks kind of

695
00:45:07,199 --> 00:45:12,659
bad. The people are not really
with it. And they were nobody

696
00:45:12,689 --> 00:45:16,139
was really crying over Jacob
Blake, let me just be honest, a

697
00:45:16,139 --> 00:45:18,869
lot of people like you, you put
that on yourself in the words of

698
00:45:18,869 --> 00:45:22,439
Martin Lawrence. Yeah, you you
brought that situation on

699
00:45:22,439 --> 00:45:25,169
yourself. And if you want to
take it one step further, his

700
00:45:25,169 --> 00:45:27,749
baby mama really brought it on,
on him.

701
00:45:28,170 --> 00:45:31,560
And I call these cops.

702
00:45:31,830 --> 00:45:34,950
Right? I find it amazing that
you have this phenomenon where

703
00:45:34,950 --> 00:45:37,890
these people are calling the
police on other people. And then

704
00:45:37,890 --> 00:45:40,500
when something happens, they're
like, Oh, why did you do that to

705
00:45:40,500 --> 00:45:47,730
him? What do you call me for? If
it's not that serious, you know?

706
00:45:48,240 --> 00:45:52,170
So is there no realization in
these communities that this is a

707
00:45:52,170 --> 00:45:55,530
dumb idea? What's going on with
that? Maybe that's something

708
00:45:56,130 --> 00:45:58,980
you want me to be? I mean, I can
be completely candid, and I'm

709
00:45:58,980 --> 00:46:01,560
gonna piss the probably a lot of
people. But in the show, I'm

710
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:03,330
probably gonna piss a lot of
people off. So I'm, I will start

711
00:46:03,330 --> 00:46:09,780
now. Um, a lot of people are
okay with the police as long as

712
00:46:09,780 --> 00:46:13,050
they're doing their bidding. And
see this is where the family

713
00:46:13,050 --> 00:46:17,280
courts. And if you want to talk
about us structural or

714
00:46:17,370 --> 00:46:21,480
institutional racism or white
supremacy, I think this is where

715
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:25,410
it starts. This is how you get
the man out of the house. This

716
00:46:25,410 --> 00:46:29,220
is no man in the house
manifested. Yes. Okay. Of

717
00:46:29,220 --> 00:46:34,230
course, just say I'm fed up with
you. I'm tired of your crap. Did

718
00:46:34,650 --> 00:46:38,850
not want one, come get him. I'm
tired of him. For whatever

719
00:46:38,850 --> 00:46:41,280
reason, it doesn't matter what
the reason he can do.

720
00:46:41,850 --> 00:46:44,910
So where does this where does
this in this empowerment

721
00:46:44,910 --> 00:46:48,180
entitlement comes from the
influences of the women running

722
00:46:48,180 --> 00:46:50,070
BLM? Or is this our

723
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:53,460
family courts, their family
courts have weaponized

724
00:46:53,460 --> 00:46:58,170
themselves, well, weaponize
women, women, women and women,

725
00:46:58,650 --> 00:47:03,090
not all women, but it has given
them the ability to say, if you

726
00:47:03,090 --> 00:47:05,850
want the power to the state to
step in, and this goes back to

727
00:47:05,850 --> 00:47:08,940
the I think last shoulder show
before that. We were talking

728
00:47:08,940 --> 00:47:12,240
about the keys and who owns your
keys? Yeah, you know, really the

729
00:47:12,240 --> 00:47:15,390
state's own your kids when you
sign that birth certificate, the

730
00:47:15,390 --> 00:47:20,070
state's on your kid. And it's
like, okay, now state, I need

731
00:47:20,070 --> 00:47:25,440
help with a with, you know, the
CO parent between us, me, you

732
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:29,070
and him being no The three
parties being the two parents in

733
00:47:29,070 --> 00:47:31,950
the state, I need him out of
here. And that's basically what

734
00:47:31,950 --> 00:47:35,010
she did was engaged white
supremacy on him. And that's,

735
00:47:35,220 --> 00:47:38,070
that's and not not saying the
cost of white supremacy. What

736
00:47:38,070 --> 00:47:41,640
I'm saying is the system the
family court system is set up to

737
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:44,280
say if you're unhappy with this,
man, we'll take we'll get him

738
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:46,560
out of here. It doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter what the

739
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:50,970
reason the case the calls,
whatever, he got to go. And man,

740
00:47:50,970 --> 00:47:53,130
you fall under that as well. I
mean,

741
00:47:53,190 --> 00:47:58,080
yeah, no, I know, I I saw what
happened in my, in my first

742
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:03,270
divorce. I saw how what kind of
lawyers came to my ex wife's

743
00:48:03,300 --> 00:48:07,320
immediate aid, and I saw what
they were trying to do. Now

744
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:14,550
luckily, our daughter was almost
19 at the time. So you know, it

745
00:48:14,550 --> 00:48:18,300
wasn't but all man I mean, it
was and also my ex wife was

746
00:48:18,300 --> 00:48:22,800
making way more money than me.
So you know, you were really bad

747
00:48:23,220 --> 00:48:28,350
girl I said, I said like, hey,
no, no, in that case, I said you

748
00:48:28,350 --> 00:48:30,690
really don't want me claiming
money do you? Because I was

749
00:48:30,690 --> 00:48:31,890
making less I mean

750
00:48:32,910 --> 00:48:35,820
divorces yeah in the monastery
I'm talking about in the

751
00:48:36,180 --> 00:48:38,370
physical movement since

752
00:48:38,610 --> 00:48:41,400
right now but but I'm saying is
that I saw how the how the

753
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:44,910
justice system is completely
geared towards screwing the the

754
00:48:44,910 --> 00:48:47,550
dads screwing the husband
screwing the male partner.

755
00:48:47,580 --> 00:48:48,330
That's what I mean.

756
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:52,290
Which we also got to highlight
the fact that there are bad

757
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:56,640
actors out there that do pale it
was a several of them in Kenosha

758
00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:57,030
that night.

759
00:48:59,130 --> 00:48:59,940
See dead bees.

760
00:49:00,990 --> 00:49:07,020
So it's a lot of waste. A lot of
men out here that actually abuse

761
00:49:07,020 --> 00:49:10,470
women. Sure. We saw several of
them in Kenosha that night.

762
00:49:10,500 --> 00:49:14,640
That's amazing how they always
tend to be around when things go

763
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:18,660
down. Crap happening. Yep. Yeah.
So we're not saying that the

764
00:49:18,660 --> 00:49:20,850
police is not necessary. And
domestic violence is not a

765
00:49:20,850 --> 00:49:24,000
serious issue. But I think
people take it too far in the

766
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:28,350
sense of, if you're just having
a couple of spat, there's no

767
00:49:28,350 --> 00:49:31,980
need to involve the law in it.
Because the law only has one

768
00:49:31,980 --> 00:49:38,340
purpose. And that's to enact a
law. Whatever the law is, okay.

769
00:49:38,910 --> 00:49:42,060
They'll quickly tell you Mr.
Curry, Mr. Facts, you got 30

770
00:49:42,060 --> 00:49:46,710
minutes to pack a bag, you got
to make a phone call you got to

771
00:49:46,710 --> 00:49:51,540
get out of here and that's a
system and that's the other leg

772
00:49:51,540 --> 00:49:55,440
of the justice system that
really needs to be exposed. We

773
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:59,160
saw the one leg of it get
exposed during this trial. Now

774
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:01,800
that's another layer But we need
this suppose in the future

775
00:50:02,010 --> 00:50:08,160
because that causes a lot of
strife and unnecessary

776
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:12,630
involvement a law enforcement in
couple situations but I digress.

777
00:50:12,660 --> 00:50:13,200
Okay, thank

778
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:15,930
you. I appreciate that that was
that was worth the diversion for

779
00:50:15,930 --> 00:50:16,140
me.

780
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:20,790
So I think we stopped at 11. Now
we got to get to actual Joe by

781
00:50:20,790 --> 00:50:23,070
name. Speaking to Jacob Blake

782
00:50:23,460 --> 00:50:26,490
also had been waiting to hear
more about his visit with the

783
00:50:26,490 --> 00:50:29,610
family of Jacob Blake. Attorney
Benjamin Crump released a

784
00:50:29,610 --> 00:50:33,600
statement minutes ago while the
Vice President was speaking said

785
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:37,380
that he and Dr. Biden met with
the family including Jacob

786
00:50:37,380 --> 00:50:40,620
Blake's father, Jacob Blake, Sr.
His sisters and brother Ben

787
00:50:40,620 --> 00:50:44,430
Crump listened in by phone as to
Jacob Blake's mother and Jacob

788
00:50:44,430 --> 00:50:48,120
Blake himself from his hospital
bed. This piece of the statement

789
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:51,030
in particular stood out quote,
I'm quoting from the statement

790
00:50:51,030 --> 00:50:55,140
from Ben Crump quote, Jacob Jr,
the young man who was shot Jacob

791
00:50:55,140 --> 00:51:00,060
Jr. shared about the pain he is
enduring. And the Vice President

792
00:51:00,150 --> 00:51:03,690
commiserated to vice president
told the family that he believes

793
00:51:03,690 --> 00:51:07,260
the best of America is in all of
us, and that we need to value

794
00:51:07,260 --> 00:51:10,140
all our differences as we come
together in America's great

795
00:51:10,140 --> 00:51:14,010
melting pot. Going on to read,
quote, it was very obvious that

796
00:51:14,010 --> 00:51:17,820
Vice President Biden cared as he
extended to Jacob Jr. A sense of

797
00:51:17,820 --> 00:51:21,690
humanity, treating him as a
person worthy of consideration

798
00:51:21,900 --> 00:51:25,260
and prayer, unquote. That is
part of a statement from

799
00:51:25,260 --> 00:51:28,290
attorney Benjamin Crump about
the meeting that Vice President

800
00:51:28,290 --> 00:51:32,790
Joe Biden had with the Blake
family. So apparently, Kristin,

801
00:51:33,870 --> 00:51:38,070
Joe Biden and Jacob Blake spoke
communicated somewhat today,

802
00:51:38,100 --> 00:51:40,890
which I think is the first we've
heard of a major political

803
00:51:40,890 --> 00:51:44,280
figure actually talking to the
family. And to young Mr. Blake,

804
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:52,350
that is a great piece of
propaganda. Have the guys lawyer

805
00:51:52,740 --> 00:51:57,030
who create the statement of what
happened with color, and just

806
00:51:57,030 --> 00:52:00,450
read that verbatim on the air
and then say, wow, it looks like

807
00:52:00,450 --> 00:52:02,280
they had a good little chat
didn't.

808
00:52:03,390 --> 00:52:07,350
But I will say this that our
current and our Biden needs to

809
00:52:07,350 --> 00:52:09,870
update their language cost
melting pot is now

810
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:12,570
melting true.

811
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:16,710
This is true. Oh, yeah. You're
very, very tone deaf. And in

812
00:52:16,710 --> 00:52:20,340
doing that, but this is this.
This goes with the thing with

813
00:52:20,340 --> 00:52:23,640
Cardi B. And talking to the
president, presidential

814
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:27,810
candidates. This goes with, you
know, all these other people to

815
00:52:27,810 --> 00:52:30,420
talk to presidential candidates.
Now you got people that are

816
00:52:30,420 --> 00:52:35,010
shot. Talking to President you
can't this was the cranes. This

817
00:52:35,010 --> 00:52:40,260
was the pander the panda machine
was on 11 Right now, as far as

818
00:52:40,290 --> 00:52:43,680
oh, let's go talk to Jacob
Blake. And then the egg was on

819
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:47,250
their face. But people with
short memories and under mass

820
00:52:47,250 --> 00:52:50,820
formation. They don't see this.
They don't they don't hear this.

821
00:52:50,820 --> 00:52:53,640
They only hear seven shots.
Yeah. And that's that's why you

822
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:58,110
saying that SIOP is spot on
because none of this translates

823
00:52:58,170 --> 00:53:02,010
all of this was I'm not going to
get these clips from anywhere.

824
00:53:02,940 --> 00:53:06,480
Exclusive for anything. This was
for public knowledge. And the

825
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:10,080
reporters knew were like, well,
that sounds kind of crazy. If

826
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:11,130
you ask me, but

827
00:53:11,940 --> 00:53:15,390
seven shots, seven shots, seven
shots, seven shots,

828
00:53:15,390 --> 00:53:19,620
it's all a matter. So before we
get into this, I went I

829
00:53:19,620 --> 00:53:24,060
identified that who this report
is talking to and I had written

830
00:53:24,060 --> 00:53:29,310
now here, but it's Kristen.
She's the new Department of

831
00:53:29,310 --> 00:53:30,930
Justice. Civil rights.

832
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:35,250
Oh, this is the Yeah, this is
the American Indian woman.

833
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:39,570
No, it's not. She's she's black.
Nurse. Well, she's black in

834
00:53:39,570 --> 00:53:44,550
color, but think she's from the
Caribbean. She's not she's not a

835
00:53:44,550 --> 00:53:45,060
Das.

836
00:53:45,209 --> 00:53:48,359
No, she's not a Das. No. I
thought she was American Indian.

837
00:53:49,019 --> 00:53:51,779
No, you thinking about Gupta.
No, no, no,

838
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:56,220
not no, not Indian, American
Indian, like Indian like Native

839
00:53:56,220 --> 00:53:56,880
American.

840
00:53:57,180 --> 00:54:00,870
Oh, she was she might I mean if
you talk what's her name?

841
00:54:01,530 --> 00:54:10,020
Kristin. Uh, what is her? I have
it here. This is the part of DOJ

842
00:54:10,230 --> 00:54:13,500
right Kristen Clark. Oh, Kristen
Carr. That's it. And I think

843
00:54:13,500 --> 00:54:14,880
she's from Jamaica. Oh, no, no,

844
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:17,730
I'm sorry. I'm, I'm thinking of
someone else. Yes. I have seen

845
00:54:17,730 --> 00:54:24,510
her. And she is indeed Jamaican.
Yes. And well, she's, she's

846
00:54:24,510 --> 00:54:27,240
American, but her parents are
from Jamaica. They immigrated

847
00:54:27,270 --> 00:54:30,240
correct cray. Well, she's
similar to Kamala Harris in that

848
00:54:30,240 --> 00:54:32,790
way where She's Jamaican by Yes.
And

849
00:54:32,790 --> 00:54:36,750
I remember I remember seeing her
and she was talking some smack

850
00:54:36,750 --> 00:54:39,660
I'm like, What's this we
business?

851
00:54:42,510 --> 00:54:45,570
You want to go ahead and go and
get into the clip because she

852
00:54:45,570 --> 00:54:47,190
thought a doozy out here. Okay.

853
00:54:47,459 --> 00:54:51,059
Which is one small step forward
in terms of healing, just

854
00:54:51,299 --> 00:54:56,039
recognizing and acknowledging
this brutal, tragic tragedy.

855
00:54:56,399 --> 00:54:59,669
We've got to remember that Mr.
Blake is a human being he is a

856
00:54:59,669 --> 00:55:04,739
father. He has a son. He is the
descendant of a family that has

857
00:55:04,739 --> 00:55:07,649
literally committed itself to
our nation's civil rights

858
00:55:07,649 --> 00:55:09,869
movement. Song grandpa,

859
00:55:10,709 --> 00:55:15,599
dog whistle. No, I want to talk
dog whistles. No. He said this

860
00:55:15,599 --> 00:55:19,469
and it. You gotta remember this
election time where she was

861
00:55:19,469 --> 00:55:26,369
actually genius where she before
she got her appointment. Um, so

862
00:55:26,369 --> 00:55:29,279
she's out there keeping hard for
the administration to because

863
00:55:29,279 --> 00:55:32,009
she knew she had some coming
down by a gay I got a gig coming

864
00:55:32,009 --> 00:55:35,699
up. So you would just be run a
little bit. Yes, she's the

865
00:55:35,699 --> 00:55:38,369
descendant. Interesting where
she chose there

866
00:55:38,939 --> 00:55:44,219
is a father. He is a son. He is
the descendant of a family that

867
00:55:44,219 --> 00:55:47,369
has literally committed itself
to our nation's civil rights

868
00:55:47,369 --> 00:55:51,389
movement. His own grandfather
marched in the days after the

869
00:55:51,389 --> 00:55:55,829
assassination of Dr. Martin
Luther King. And so Mr. Biden's

870
00:55:55,829 --> 00:56:01,529
actions today, most certainly
humanized, Mr. Blake. But what

871
00:56:01,529 --> 00:56:06,689
we need now is justice. What we
need now are officers who will

872
00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:11,279
be held accountable for the harm
done to Mr. Blake, we need

873
00:56:11,279 --> 00:56:15,509
officers to be held accountable
for the countless shootings of

874
00:56:15,509 --> 00:56:22,229
unarmed African Americans. This
is a crisis that is the soul of

875
00:56:22,259 --> 00:56:26,129
our nation, and we need National
Service shots from a blind eye

876
00:56:26,129 --> 00:56:32,609
to this and who will acknowledge
the bitter, harmful racism

877
00:56:32,939 --> 00:56:36,629
underlying the police violence
that we are seeing carrying

878
00:56:37,349 --> 00:56:39,749
partner country right now. Wow.
Also

879
00:56:39,749 --> 00:56:42,779
worth noting that Joe Biden his
remarks did indeed say that

880
00:56:42,779 --> 00:56:46,409
institutional racism is a thing
and he directly connected it to

881
00:56:46,409 --> 00:56:49,619
the incident in Kenosha that has
left Jacob Blake Jr. in a

882
00:56:49,619 --> 00:56:52,469
hospital bed. Kristen Clark of
the Lawyers Committee for Civil

883
00:56:52,469 --> 00:56:54,329
Rights Under Law. Thanks very
much.

884
00:56:54,479 --> 00:56:56,429
Oh my goodness.

885
00:56:57,119 --> 00:57:00,419
So that's her before she got her
gigs. So you know, she was out

886
00:57:00,419 --> 00:57:03,929
there keeping hard yeah, and
thought around to descend it

887
00:57:03,929 --> 00:57:09,839
word How convenient. That's kind
of thing they know what time it

888
00:57:09,839 --> 00:57:13,319
is. They know what's going on.
They know what the the talking

889
00:57:13,319 --> 00:57:17,159
points are. And it's amazing
that she used that word because

890
00:57:17,159 --> 00:57:21,359
I thought a das were black box
rushing box just to throw that

891
00:57:21,359 --> 00:57:23,159
word around. You might get
yourself on the list there,

892
00:57:23,159 --> 00:57:24,059
Kristen, but

893
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:28,740
I'm sorry, I was gonna say I get
into trouble with people.

894
00:57:29,940 --> 00:57:35,520
Because I'll say I do. And it
usually winds up with me having

895
00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:38,940
to explain a DOS. Now say this
woman has no business talking

896
00:57:38,940 --> 00:57:43,350
like this. You know, she really
doesn't at least not with the

897
00:57:43,350 --> 00:57:45,750
attitude that she's dead like
she's a part of this and that

898
00:57:45,750 --> 00:57:48,840
she you know, she understands
these by the way, I am actually

899
00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:53,760
a descendant of, of people who
were active in civil rights. You

900
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:58,110
know, my great uncle painted
John Brown in the murals on the

901
00:57:58,110 --> 00:58:03,360
wall in in Kansas. at the
Capitol. It's like that's how

902
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:05,370
stupid it is what this woman is
saying.

903
00:58:06,149 --> 00:58:10,829
And what that this just they had
they had nothing to say. So they

904
00:58:10,919 --> 00:58:15,539
commodity the same thing. They
just have to fill up space with

905
00:58:15,539 --> 00:58:16,739
just rambling

906
00:58:16,770 --> 00:58:19,290
but when I say those things and
I get into trouble people say

907
00:58:19,290 --> 00:58:23,340
but that's that's really racist
that you say that because she's

908
00:58:23,340 --> 00:58:26,490
by because of her color because
of her color the skin.

909
00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:32,700
But you can't identify I'm
separate groups within you know,

910
00:58:32,700 --> 00:58:37,890
that's kind of like lumping
Asians with white went in with

911
00:58:37,890 --> 00:58:42,660
Chinese, Asian, Asian with
whites. Why not? Just say within

912
00:58:42,660 --> 00:58:44,910
intra intra. Oh, yeah.

913
00:58:44,940 --> 00:58:48,420
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Like,
Japanese, Korean. Chinese all

914
00:58:48,420 --> 00:58:48,840
the same?

915
00:58:49,590 --> 00:58:53,310
Yeah, that's basically what
they're saying. Yeah. So that's

916
00:58:53,340 --> 00:58:58,260
highly offensive. Yes. That's,
that's my that's honestly, I

917
00:58:58,260 --> 00:59:00,600
totally get your point. And I'm
just gonna highlight it even

918
00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:04,530
further. That's like saying, Ah,
we want somebody to speak on any

919
00:59:04,530 --> 00:59:10,320
relations. Chinese bring them
on? Yeah, we have somebody here

920
00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:15,120
representing Asian Americans.
What I mean, cuz I used to be

921
00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:19,260
come from Khalistan or wherever
and be considered an Asian is,

922
00:59:19,290 --> 00:59:23,580
is yes. You might even be
considered Chinese. It just

923
00:59:23,580 --> 00:59:25,020
looking at you if you're
Kazakhstan.

924
00:59:25,470 --> 00:59:29,910
Right. So that's, that's where
it's offensive. There. And the

925
00:59:29,910 --> 00:59:32,370
other part is, I'm just gonna
say this and people get

926
00:59:32,370 --> 00:59:36,870
frustrated me. It's amazing how
these super woke women. Kamala

927
00:59:36,870 --> 00:59:41,250
Harris and Kristin her I forget
her name last name. Yeah, but

928
00:59:41,340 --> 00:59:44,850
they're married to these
oppressive white men. They speak

929
00:59:44,850 --> 00:59:49,230
so bad. They thought the only
good ones How does that work?

930
00:59:49,830 --> 00:59:53,280
That's right. Check them there's
no limit to excuse me No, let

931
00:59:54,180 --> 00:59:57,360
me not forget dollar limit as
well. But it's amazing how they

932
00:59:57,360 --> 01:00:02,820
got here and vilified. same
people and then go and lay down

933
01:00:02,820 --> 01:00:05,730
beside the person or a group of
people that you're vilifying

934
01:00:05,790 --> 01:00:08,940
that I don't understand. Yeah,
mindset,

935
01:00:08,970 --> 01:00:12,090
you're not in the mess
formation. So you see right

936
01:00:12,090 --> 01:00:14,310
through it. This is how the
emperor has no clothes.

937
01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:20,160
Thank goodness. I'm not part of
it. Oh, we're gonna wrap this.

938
01:00:20,190 --> 01:00:22,170
We're gonna have an early
donation segue. So there's gonna

939
01:00:22,170 --> 01:00:25,590
be a last clip of this block.
Just because I wanted to break

940
01:00:25,590 --> 01:00:29,310
the show up. But this is the
final outcome of whether Jacob

941
01:00:29,310 --> 01:00:32,160
Blake was the officers were
charged or not and the Jacob

942
01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:32,940
Blake situation.

943
01:00:33,239 --> 01:00:35,939
We're gonna turn now to the
fallout after the Kenosha

944
01:00:36,119 --> 01:00:38,759
District Attorney announced he
will not charge any of the

945
01:00:38,759 --> 01:00:41,939
police officers involved in the
shooting of Jacob Blake this

946
01:00:41,939 --> 01:00:45,239
summer. Alex Perez is in Kenosha
with the latest force. Good

947
01:00:45,239 --> 01:00:45,959
morning Alex.

948
01:00:47,370 --> 01:00:50,340
Hey, good morning Robin. Things
peaceful here overnight but the

949
01:00:50,340 --> 01:00:54,240
city of Kenosha remains under an
emergency declaration some 500

950
01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:57,480
National Guardsmen have been
activated. Jacob Blake's family

951
01:00:57,480 --> 01:01:04,140
calls the prosecutor's decision
on just overnight demonstrators

952
01:01:04,140 --> 01:01:11,910
taking to the streets in
Kenosha, Wisconsin. After

953
01:01:11,910 --> 01:01:14,760
prosecutors announced they are
declining to towards the officer

954
01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:18,870
who shot Jacob Blake seven times
last August, saying that after

955
01:01:18,870 --> 01:01:23,100
poring through some 40 hours of
video and 1500 pages of reports.

956
01:01:23,310 --> 01:01:25,800
The evidence did not support
charges.

957
01:01:25,919 --> 01:01:30,329
No Kenosha law enforcement
officer in this case will be

958
01:01:30,329 --> 01:01:32,129
charged with any criminal
offense.

959
01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:35,640
This disturbing video of the
incidents back on August 23. It

960
01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:39,540
sparked days of protest. Police
were responding to a domestic

961
01:01:39,540 --> 01:01:42,600
dispute call from Blake's
girlfriend Blake who was

962
01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:46,230
paralyzed in the shooting this
morning is still recovering his

963
01:01:46,230 --> 01:01:49,410
family frustrated with the
prosecutors decision to not

964
01:01:49,410 --> 01:01:50,460
press charges

965
01:01:52,470 --> 01:01:58,500
are asking the city to county
the state and his nation to rise

966
01:01:58,500 --> 01:02:04,980
up in a non violent uprising to
let our friends and family know

967
01:02:05,520 --> 01:02:07,170
there's a new sheriff in town

968
01:02:09,210 --> 01:02:12,390
and the teenager who is accused
of killing two people during

969
01:02:12,390 --> 01:02:15,540
protests here last summer Kyle
Rittenhouse was arraigned in

970
01:02:15,540 --> 01:02:18,480
court he pleaded not guilty to
all charges

971
01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:23,970
once again the timing July we
can't get the cops couldn't get

972
01:02:23,970 --> 01:02:26,490
the cops what we got Kyle so
don't don't don't worry about

973
01:02:26,490 --> 01:02:31,230
it. Um And who's this new
sheriff in town thing Yeah,

974
01:02:31,230 --> 01:02:35,190
that was interesting. It was
also like Don't Don't be violent

975
01:02:35,310 --> 01:02:37,080
about the new sheriff in town

976
01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:45,780
right now is once again because
they knew isn't this the same

977
01:02:46,350 --> 01:02:49,380
Justice Department whatever you
call it locally, the district

978
01:02:49,380 --> 01:02:54,000
attorney and whatever the same
ones decided not to charge the

979
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:57,780
cops charge cow so they're like
wait wait we might we might get

980
01:02:57,780 --> 01:03:01,500
cow so don't don't go too crazy
just yet is how I interpret that

981
01:03:01,590 --> 01:03:04,770
I think if you look at the
timeline that's completely

982
01:03:04,770 --> 01:03:05,580
acceptable.

983
01:03:06,420 --> 01:03:12,720
Yeah, so I just we saw the Jacob
Blake situation we knew what

984
01:03:12,720 --> 01:03:18,210
time it was we were like yes
seven shots that's a bit much um

985
01:03:18,210 --> 01:03:23,970
but you also outline in the way
you were carrying on and then as

986
01:03:23,970 --> 01:03:27,330
you heard like it was part of
the message spew in really

987
01:03:27,510 --> 01:03:30,480
none of it was good. None of it
was good for the optics we had

988
01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:32,130
some headlines we had to move
on.

989
01:03:32,669 --> 01:03:35,519
Yeah, we had other things to get
through so that's why they kind

990
01:03:35,519 --> 01:03:39,239
of pivoted over to the George
floor thing and like we'll catch

991
01:03:39,239 --> 01:03:43,379
this on the backside in November
that was the plan

992
01:03:44,160 --> 01:03:47,310
well, well executed so far.
Yeah,

993
01:03:47,370 --> 01:03:50,790
I'm a May they had a bigger plan
you could tell the way they

994
01:03:50,910 --> 01:03:54,000
handled this but I just wanted
to point out and bring back to

995
01:03:54,000 --> 01:04:01,290
people's main memory how
disingenuous the the politicians

996
01:04:01,290 --> 01:04:03,960
in the media was but I have to
give media credit at least they

997
01:04:03,960 --> 01:04:10,170
tried with this one daily they
lease it did try to say that one

998
01:04:10,170 --> 01:04:10,560
but

999
01:04:10,590 --> 01:04:14,250
But I liked with the levers they
pull and I just have to say it

1000
01:04:14,250 --> 01:04:17,430
like you I think we see it the
same way. The Levers are getting

1001
01:04:17,430 --> 01:04:20,490
pulled, man. It's not that hard.
It's only six CEOs you got to

1002
01:04:20,490 --> 01:04:25,350
talk to it's very simple. Yeah.
The Levers get pulled in one

1003
01:04:25,350 --> 01:04:28,050
afternoon. Let's do this then
that's not working to tune

1004
01:04:28,140 --> 01:04:31,830
in to this issue. Before we get
to the next thing but since you

1005
01:04:31,830 --> 01:04:37,950
thought a psyop out there, I
just have this I have no proof.

1006
01:04:37,980 --> 01:04:41,250
This is completely speculation,
completely speculation. But

1007
01:04:41,250 --> 01:04:44,940
could this be a whole
distraction from from the whole

1008
01:04:44,940 --> 01:04:46,470
coop situation unraveling?

1009
01:04:47,730 --> 01:04:50,340
Um, well, Matt

1010
01:04:50,340 --> 01:04:54,510
stands for Microsoft. I'm just
saying MSNBC, and they've been

1011
01:04:54,510 --> 01:05:00,510
the ones on the tip of the spear
pushing this confusion. At the

1012
01:05:00,510 --> 01:05:03,900
same time, nobody really wants
to talk about what's going on on

1013
01:05:03,900 --> 01:05:06,690
the coop side of things. So I
just wanted to throw that out

1014
01:05:06,690 --> 01:05:10,530
there as a could this be a
distraction airy measure? And

1015
01:05:10,530 --> 01:05:12,420
race is the perfect distraction?

1016
01:05:13,290 --> 01:05:20,670
Yeah, I think it's I think it's
an easy fall back. Huh? It's a

1017
01:05:20,670 --> 01:05:25,470
good one. It I think this is
more plan than than we realized

1018
01:05:25,470 --> 01:05:29,130
this was not necessarily just it
works out perfectly. But I don't

1019
01:05:29,130 --> 01:05:32,430
know if it's necessarily a
distraction. This This was well

1020
01:05:32,430 --> 01:05:35,040
executed this timeline. And
that's that's the piece that was

1021
01:05:35,040 --> 01:05:37,950
kind of missing for me because I
was paying attention to other

1022
01:05:37,950 --> 01:05:42,330
things. This timeline shows me
how well done this is.

1023
01:05:43,169 --> 01:05:46,529
In that timeline, if you have
some other nuggets you wanted to

1024
01:05:46,529 --> 01:05:50,099
hide in the news, now's the time
they'll drop it because it'll be

1025
01:05:50,099 --> 01:05:53,519
in the third or fourth block
segment. Yeah, this is this is

1026
01:05:53,519 --> 01:05:57,269
like a breakout cases that are
more morning, but don't don't

1027
01:05:57,269 --> 01:05:58,499
pay attention to that. Look at

1028
01:05:59,220 --> 01:06:01,500
this is like, if you watch
succession.

1029
01:06:02,700 --> 01:06:04,290
I do not I have a start
Washington. Yeah.

1030
01:06:04,350 --> 01:06:07,770
Okay. Anyway, this is like the
Christmas tree. Like everyone

1031
01:06:07,770 --> 01:06:10,020
can hang this shit on it.
Except, you know, not not for

1032
01:06:10,020 --> 01:06:12,090
display. But just like, I'll
just stick it here in the

1033
01:06:12,090 --> 01:06:15,630
branches. So as this thing goes
off to the burning pile, then no

1034
01:06:15,630 --> 01:06:16,800
one sees what's going on.

1035
01:06:17,340 --> 01:06:19,830
Oh, okay. I see. I see what you
say. Um, so that's kind of what

1036
01:06:19,830 --> 01:06:22,290
the point I'm trying to make.
Yeah, this is a good, you know,

1037
01:06:22,290 --> 01:06:26,400
masking mechanism to say, well,
we told you, we told you what,

1038
01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:27,600
you were paying attention to
something.

1039
01:06:28,950 --> 01:06:31,260
Yeah, here's the story. Here's
the story. I told you. I

1040
01:06:31,260 --> 01:06:32,370
published it. Uh huh.

1041
01:06:32,670 --> 01:06:37,260
Right, right, we talked about
it, you know, your fault, I

1042
01:06:37,260 --> 01:06:40,080
guess it's time to thank the
people that make this possible.

1043
01:06:40,830 --> 01:06:44,130
Man and the black man have to be
able to sit down at the same

1044
01:06:44,130 --> 01:06:47,340
table, the white man has to feel
free to speak his mind without

1045
01:06:47,340 --> 01:06:50,220
hurting the feelings of that
negro. And the so called Negro

1046
01:06:50,220 --> 01:06:53,370
has to feel free to speak in the
mind without hurting the feeling

1047
01:06:53,430 --> 01:06:55,950
of the white man, then they can
bring the issue that are under

1048
01:06:55,950 --> 01:06:58,590
the rug out on top of the table.
He's taking the intelligent

1049
01:06:58,620 --> 01:07:01,350
approach to get the problems
out. But the only way but don't

1050
01:07:01,350 --> 01:07:01,800
ever do it.

1051
01:07:02,100 --> 01:07:05,100
That's right, those wise words
from Malcolm, it's what we do

1052
01:07:05,100 --> 01:07:08,820
before we thank our producers
for this episode, I think we we

1053
01:07:08,820 --> 01:07:13,470
need to get real mo to get real.
Things are changing and your

1054
01:07:13,470 --> 01:07:17,070
situation. So we're going to
need a lot of support to grow

1055
01:07:17,280 --> 01:07:22,260
the reach, and just grow shows,
but I want more people to hear

1056
01:07:22,260 --> 01:07:26,100
this, I want more people to to
get clued in, I think this is

1057
01:07:26,100 --> 01:07:28,770
really important work that we're
doing. And we need as much

1058
01:07:28,770 --> 01:07:32,760
support as we can get. It's a
value for value model, which was

1059
01:07:32,760 --> 01:07:37,230
said from day one, which we've
kept to, which means there's no

1060
01:07:37,230 --> 01:07:40,410
advertising, there's no creepy
corporate money or anything, it

1061
01:07:40,410 --> 01:07:45,390
is purely the people who want
this content. And this and, and

1062
01:07:45,420 --> 01:07:49,470
quite honestly, I want to see
you grow mo I want to see you

1063
01:07:49,470 --> 01:07:52,590
grow outside of you know, I love
what you're doing with YouTube

1064
01:07:52,590 --> 01:07:55,590
Live and I just want to get as
much support as possible. That

1065
01:07:55,590 --> 01:07:59,460
isn't just monetary, you know,
the value for value model is, in

1066
01:07:59,460 --> 01:08:02,640
its essence, what value did you
get out of this show? What kind

1067
01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:06,270
of what number can you attach to
that? And send that to us? You

1068
01:08:06,270 --> 01:08:09,750
know, maybe it's a college
degree for you. Maybe it's just

1069
01:08:10,110 --> 01:08:13,950
no as good as something from the
route? I don't know. Or from the

1070
01:08:13,980 --> 01:08:18,990
Grieux. Maybe not, maybe we're
like Charlemagne. So that, you

1071
01:08:18,990 --> 01:08:21,570
know, we're like five bucks, but
it doesn't matter. It's it's

1072
01:08:21,570 --> 01:08:25,620
what isn't what has value to
you. But we say time, talent and

1073
01:08:25,620 --> 01:08:29,700
treasure and I think it's time
for people to if possible, if

1074
01:08:29,700 --> 01:08:32,970
you've got some skills that you
can spare to help us out. And

1075
01:08:33,000 --> 01:08:34,560
you want to talk about some of
that stuff. Mo

1076
01:08:35,010 --> 01:08:39,570
Yeah, you might be heavy on time
but light on treasure. Yes, it

1077
01:08:39,569 --> 01:08:42,419
happens these days. Yes, yeah,
with the

1078
01:08:42,449 --> 01:08:45,509
whole mandate situation, you
might be in the same boat and I

1079
01:08:45,509 --> 01:08:49,169
am in like I said heavy on time
and light on treasure, but

1080
01:08:49,619 --> 01:08:52,799
please send us that time. Um,
it's a lot of talented people

1081
01:08:52,799 --> 01:08:57,059
that may have a lot of time on
their hands. And I must say

1082
01:08:57,059 --> 01:09:02,789
this, doing this has kept me
from thinking about, you know,

1083
01:09:02,819 --> 01:09:07,199
the other situation. So it might
be helpful to know everyone as

1084
01:09:07,199 --> 01:09:10,109
well, to kind of keep their
minds off of things that stay

1085
01:09:10,109 --> 01:09:13,409
busy doing, you know, something,
you know, productive with your

1086
01:09:13,409 --> 01:09:13,769
time.

1087
01:09:13,860 --> 01:09:17,370
That's a good point. That's such
a good point. You know, you and

1088
01:09:17,370 --> 01:09:20,880
I talked the other day, it was
kind of the first day that you

1089
01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:25,050
weren't talking to the office.
Right? Right. Right. And you

1090
01:09:25,050 --> 01:09:25,650
know, go ahead

1091
01:09:26,250 --> 01:09:30,540
is my personal great reset.
Yeah, this is this is this term

1092
01:09:30,540 --> 01:09:34,890
it is that I cleared all my work
stuff off my schedule and filled

1093
01:09:34,890 --> 01:09:41,040
it back up with the show and
other products I want to work on

1094
01:09:41,040 --> 01:09:45,360
and talking to people already
coming through with a talent of

1095
01:09:45,360 --> 01:09:48,360
value and say, hey, I can help
you with this. I can help you

1096
01:09:48,360 --> 01:09:55,500
with that. And do you be art,
websites, just anything. sharing

1097
01:09:55,500 --> 01:09:59,460
it out. I'd like to give a shout
out to one person is on the

1098
01:09:59,460 --> 01:10:05,640
lives And on the last tapes, his
name is deep impression. He

1099
01:10:05,640 --> 01:10:10,050
comes in every show. And it's
like, subscribe, like, subscribe

1100
01:10:10,050 --> 01:10:13,800
consequent comments and live
chat. Nice stuff matters. You

1101
01:10:13,800 --> 01:10:17,460
know, it doesn't have to be a
huge action, but anything that

1102
01:10:17,460 --> 01:10:19,860
helps and like I said, it'll
help yourself as well. Oh,

1103
01:10:19,859 --> 01:10:24,899
he needs a boost with a goat.

1104
01:10:25,230 --> 01:10:29,670
Thank you. Yeah, so um, yeah,
so, that kind of thing. You'd be

1105
01:10:29,670 --> 01:10:33,600
amazed how much value in other
ways the monetary is important

1106
01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:35,250
to. Yeah, please take care.

1107
01:10:37,980 --> 01:10:41,490
Absolutely, we're gonna start
off with our top donor for

1108
01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:42,810
episode number 71.

1109
01:10:43,650 --> 01:10:44,730
Sakala

1110
01:10:44,730 --> 01:10:47,370
20 is Blaze only Impala

1111
01:10:47,400 --> 01:10:51,390
$200 from Kenneth Daigle, I
think I'll pronounce it. We

1112
01:10:51,390 --> 01:10:53,400
appreciate that. KENNETH And
Kenneth says love what you're

1113
01:10:53,400 --> 01:10:57,510
doing. Now that I might not get
fired from the mandates. We're

1114
01:10:57,510 --> 01:11:00,870
happy for you. I feel free
enough to donate donate finally

1115
01:11:00,870 --> 01:11:04,020
I sometimes stream on YouTube
with my real name. But enter the

1116
01:11:04,020 --> 01:11:09,240
chat under Starfish Prime. Keep
up the great work. Starfish

1117
01:11:09,240 --> 01:11:11,490
Prime google it have you Google
Starfish Prime.

1118
01:11:11,550 --> 01:11:14,460
I have not yet but are we gonna
do that for sure.

1119
01:11:14,580 --> 01:11:19,230
Philip brown 171 71. There you
go. That's a donation for a show

1120
01:11:19,230 --> 01:11:23,910
episode. Mm hmm. And Philip says
going postal originates from the

1121
01:11:23,910 --> 01:11:28,770
1986 Edmund post office
massacre. Yes, we were talking

1122
01:11:28,770 --> 01:11:29,070
about

1123
01:11:29,070 --> 01:11:31,530
that. Yeah, we talked about
doing the Lost Tapes and maybe

1124
01:11:31,530 --> 01:11:33,210
you're not listening to the Lost
Tapes and

1125
01:11:33,210 --> 01:11:35,520
then you're missing out and
you're lost. You're lost tape.

1126
01:11:36,060 --> 01:11:40,110
You miss it happy that you? I
mean because we do we schedule

1127
01:11:40,110 --> 01:11:43,380
it like this because it's so
much down the rabbit hole. That

1128
01:11:43,380 --> 01:11:46,950
that allows us to get the visual
aspect and other things and that

1129
01:11:46,950 --> 01:11:51,000
you just can't do to audio. And
I hate it leaving so much on the

1130
01:11:51,000 --> 01:11:54,210
table but it keeps the show
concise. timewise

1131
01:11:54,239 --> 01:11:57,989
CMOS. When you listen to mo
facts, it's like a a nice doobie

1132
01:11:57,989 --> 01:12:00,899
you just chill and listen to all
this stuff. And then you go to

1133
01:12:00,899 --> 01:12:03,959
the last tape just like here
have some acid. Alright, let's

1134
01:12:03,959 --> 01:12:06,119
go all the way down.

1135
01:12:06,570 --> 01:12:09,420
And it's acid. We're friends
because the fact stays over

1136
01:12:09,420 --> 01:12:09,600
there.

1137
01:12:11,790 --> 01:12:15,510
In the Philippines with the 70
threes for us, k one five

1138
01:12:15,540 --> 01:12:20,850
November Tango Yankee. 73. So
Ham radio. how old I am. Good.

1139
01:12:20,850 --> 01:12:25,590
Okay. David keys $100. Which
biography to your mech recommend

1140
01:12:25,590 --> 01:12:30,240
about Malcolm X. Dave wants Alex
Haley. Alex Haley. Really?

1141
01:12:31,230 --> 01:12:36,930
Interesting. Okay. Thank you,
David. Sivanna genteel $100 from

1142
01:12:36,930 --> 01:12:39,690
Silvana and no note though,
thank you very much. Silvana.

1143
01:12:39,930 --> 01:12:43,770
Mike, Mike Brian, also $100 in
the morning, gentlemen, this is

1144
01:12:43,770 --> 01:12:48,060
long overdue. So let me get the
D dead beating out of the way of

1145
01:12:48,060 --> 01:12:48,690
course.

1146
01:12:50,370 --> 01:12:55,590
Congratulations. You're no
longer a deadbeat.

1147
01:12:55,740 --> 01:12:59,280
Mo. Mike says the work you're
doing with this show was worth

1148
01:12:59,280 --> 01:13:02,160
far more than the paltry
Franklin, I can send you today

1149
01:13:02,160 --> 01:13:05,850
but I can guarantee it will not
be the last after hearing what

1150
01:13:05,850 --> 01:13:08,820
your work is putting you through
from the last episode. If they

1151
01:13:08,820 --> 01:13:11,850
end up letting you go. They're
losing more than you are and

1152
01:13:11,910 --> 01:13:14,640
then you in the transit than you
are in the transaction. And no

1153
01:13:14,640 --> 01:13:17,730
kidding. You have a bright
future as far as I can see, and

1154
01:13:17,730 --> 01:13:20,820
I'll be pitching in my shekels
when I can along the way. I'd

1155
01:13:20,820 --> 01:13:24,330
like a biscuit for my birthday.
Yay, always give me a biscuit on

1156
01:13:24,330 --> 01:13:26,880
my birthday. And that was
November 20, and a powerful mo

1157
01:13:26,880 --> 01:13:30,450
karma for all the facts family.
Thanks for the works, guys, sir

1158
01:13:30,450 --> 01:13:33,990
Mike of the rising elevator. And
we certainly appreciate that

1159
01:13:33,990 --> 01:13:44,250
man. You've got I agree. And,
you know, this is you know, it's

1160
01:13:44,250 --> 01:13:49,980
tragic. Because I've received
probably five sometimes 10

1161
01:13:50,010 --> 01:13:55,410
emails a day of people talking
about leaving the job because

1162
01:13:55,410 --> 01:14:01,620
they have to, because they and
it's all about mandates. But I

1163
01:14:01,620 --> 01:14:06,810
would say most of them are kind
of like you also you know, like,

1164
01:14:06,900 --> 01:14:10,710
Hey, this is a personal reset. I
can do something else though.

1165
01:14:10,740 --> 01:14:14,250
And I'm I'm capable and these
people are losing out and they

1166
01:14:14,250 --> 01:14:18,780
are it's very encouraging. It's
also kind of uniquely American I

1167
01:14:18,780 --> 01:14:19,200
think

1168
01:14:19,739 --> 01:14:22,949
and I think that's the they call
it the great resignation and I

1169
01:14:22,949 --> 01:14:26,129
don't like that because it makes
it seem I hate that term.

1170
01:14:26,609 --> 01:14:30,119
Because they make it seem like
it's voluntary. Right? No, no,

1171
01:14:30,119 --> 01:14:32,459
it's not violent. You're not
gonna lump us in with the people

1172
01:14:32,459 --> 01:14:34,769
that just tell us not to go to
work. I don't like that. You're

1173
01:14:34,769 --> 01:14:35,489
so

1174
01:14:35,489 --> 01:14:37,079
correct on that. That's

1175
01:14:38,250 --> 01:14:42,090
a great read a great reset
generation. The Georgi love it

1176
01:14:42,090 --> 01:14:42,450
Oh,

1177
01:14:43,560 --> 01:14:46,830
column Preston also comes in
with a hundy love you guys love

1178
01:14:46,830 --> 01:14:51,810
the show. Cheers. PS he says off
topic as a fellow NFL fan. Do

1179
01:14:51,810 --> 01:14:55,860
you think that the game is
rigged? Yes. Do you want this to

1180
01:14:55,860 --> 01:14:58,770
be just a quick answer or do you
want to do a whole episode about

1181
01:14:58,770 --> 01:14:58,950
it?

1182
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:03,600
give them a quick win I think
isn't they know situations

1183
01:15:03,630 --> 01:15:06,570
because it is a business at the
end of the day, but I don't

1184
01:15:06,570 --> 01:15:09,150
think it's really because they
have too much at stake.

1185
01:15:09,630 --> 01:15:12,960
Monetarily with the gambler
situation. So they definitely

1186
01:15:12,960 --> 01:15:16,770
wouldn't put that at risk by by
straight out fixing games.

1187
01:15:17,130 --> 01:15:18,480
That's my short All right.

1188
01:15:20,040 --> 01:15:28,770
We got an 808 a boob donation
from gobies from OG foam arts OG

1189
01:15:28,770 --> 01:15:35,460
fo MK arts, or OG fo MK arts. I
don't know all Trump doesn't

1190
01:15:35,490 --> 01:15:38,460
Oxon doesn't sound right.
Anyway, thank you, mon Adam,

1191
01:15:38,460 --> 01:15:40,860
your show is outstanding. I'll
try to share with anyone who

1192
01:15:40,860 --> 01:15:44,850
will listen bitcoin is the way
to end Fiat earthers is Hell

1193
01:15:44,850 --> 01:15:48,660
yeah. Oh, that's another thing
we're going to do. We'll set up

1194
01:15:48,660 --> 01:15:54,960
some QR codes for Bitcoin
donations. And we'll talk about

1195
01:15:54,990 --> 01:15:58,260
value for value apps in a
moment. But we are gonna set

1196
01:15:58,260 --> 01:16:01,800
that up. Thank you very much.
Tyler Boyd $80. Mo fax is the

1197
01:16:01,800 --> 01:16:05,280
fax machine. Appreciate you and
Adam. All right. Thank you,

1198
01:16:05,280 --> 01:16:09,900
Tyler. Anthony DeLuca 7779.
Let's see if we can figure out

1199
01:16:09,900 --> 01:16:12,450
what that number is about. Howdy
mo fax. Adam. Your show was

1200
01:16:12,450 --> 01:16:17,880
tremendous. And it's about time
I sent in some value mo I did

1201
01:16:17,880 --> 01:16:21,030
your live shows as well. And as
it turns out, I'm donating here

1202
01:16:21,030 --> 01:16:24,810
before I hit no agenda. I'd
rather be a douchebag than a

1203
01:16:24,810 --> 01:16:27,540
deadbeat. But I intend on
providing other resources of

1204
01:16:27,540 --> 01:16:30,600
value to both of you. For
example, I'm open to getting my

1205
01:16:30,600 --> 01:16:33,450
advertising network federated
but would be more would like

1206
01:16:33,450 --> 01:16:36,750
more info first. At least I'd
like to do a write up for both

1207
01:16:36,750 --> 01:16:39,360
of your shows. I'm taking things
one step at a time as I work on

1208
01:16:39,360 --> 01:16:42,720
changing the advertising
paradigm. Whoa, please do

1209
01:16:42,720 --> 01:16:46,230
consider reaching out to discuss
more, give it the great work.

1210
01:16:46,260 --> 01:16:50,520
And please look into the
connection between Biden writing

1211
01:16:50,520 --> 01:16:55,770
the Patriot Act and his son's
investment in Facebook, I

1212
01:16:55,770 --> 01:16:58,770
guess. I think that's what that
may have been. I think they're

1213
01:16:59,699 --> 01:17:05,999
interesting. And tone dope
logic. Well, I'm interested in

1214
01:17:06,420 --> 01:17:07,980
that talent. True. I mean,
talent value

1215
01:17:07,980 --> 01:17:11,220
Exactly. Well, whatever you can
do, man, we're open open

1216
01:17:11,220 --> 01:17:14,610
anything. Obviously, we won't do
advertising. But if there's any

1217
01:17:14,610 --> 01:17:17,640
way that you can advertise us on
your network, that sounds like a

1218
01:17:17,640 --> 01:17:22,200
good idea. And appreciate the
support. 7171 show donation

1219
01:17:22,200 --> 01:17:25,230
Jonathan Peckham says hey, I
didn't get the deadbeat ID the

1220
01:17:25,230 --> 01:17:27,240
first time around. Let me fix
that for you.

1221
01:17:28,920 --> 01:17:33,930
Congratulations. You're no
longer a deadbeat

1222
01:17:33,960 --> 01:17:37,770
as requested and he also wants a
biscuit first. For a little

1223
01:17:37,770 --> 01:17:40,950
biscuit for his birthday and a
goat karma they always give me a

1224
01:17:40,950 --> 01:17:45,000
biscuit on my birthday. You've
got

1225
01:17:50,250 --> 01:17:56,160
Raymond Berry show number
donation. $71. Sir Vegas Ray

1226
01:17:56,190 --> 01:17:59,010
Knight of the Naked City is my
fourth podcast I've listened to

1227
01:17:59,010 --> 01:18:02,100
so I guess I'm no longer a
deadbeat. Well, I think I agree

1228
01:18:02,100 --> 01:18:02,430
with you.

1229
01:18:03,540 --> 01:18:08,490
Congratulations. You're no
longer a deadbeat.

1230
01:18:08,519 --> 01:18:11,189
I appreciate the work that you
and Adam do keep up the

1231
01:18:11,189 --> 01:18:13,949
outstanding work. Could I get a
mo karma? Thanks again, sir.

1232
01:18:13,949 --> 01:18:22,769
Vegas Ray. You bet sir Vegas
Ray. You've got 71 from Gen

1233
01:18:22,769 --> 01:18:24,479
avait. Corporation.

1234
01:18:25,680 --> 01:18:27,510
seems interested me. Yes.

1235
01:18:27,540 --> 01:18:31,770
So look that one up. Seems like
hypothetical Joe Katz has gotten

1236
01:18:31,770 --> 01:18:35,880
the sign to go full time. Truth
reveals since now he has a bunch

1237
01:18:35,880 --> 01:18:41,040
of hypothetical unbox time on
his hands. Hmm. Joe cats. Oh,

1238
01:18:41,040 --> 01:18:43,830
Joe. Oh, Joe.

1239
01:18:44,400 --> 01:18:51,150
Yeah, Joe cats. Hypothetically,
Joe cat was separated from his

1240
01:18:51,840 --> 01:18:53,430
occupation. Last show.

1241
01:18:53,909 --> 01:18:58,769
Oh, okay. I do too many
podcasts. Okay, God,

1242
01:18:58,800 --> 01:19:02,010
I thought well, we spelled with
a K but that's cool. Yeah, no,

1243
01:19:02,040 --> 01:19:06,060
that's probably what threw me
off I guess. Yeah. All right.

1244
01:19:06,300 --> 01:19:09,420
Sounds like the corporation was
a bad employer hypothetically

1245
01:19:09,420 --> 01:19:12,600
speaking. Yeah. We wanted to say
thank you to both of you for all

1246
01:19:12,600 --> 01:19:15,000
the great work have been
listening since episode 28 and

1247
01:19:15,000 --> 01:19:17,610
wanted to give you some value.
This is our first contribution

1248
01:19:17,610 --> 01:19:21,180
so can you please D dead beat us
and go and get a mo karma and a

1249
01:19:21,180 --> 01:19:25,650
WUSA Happy Thanksgiving from the
fluffy bottoms farm in Texas

1250
01:19:25,650 --> 01:19:28,110
Hill Country that you bet that's
very cool.

1251
01:19:28,710 --> 01:19:33,300
Congratulation. You're no longer
a dead

1252
01:19:43,620 --> 01:19:48,330
sea the fluffy bottoms farm what
do they what do they have on

1253
01:19:48,330 --> 01:19:49,020
their farm?

1254
01:19:51,600 --> 01:19:52,590
Fluffy bottomless

1255
01:19:52,620 --> 01:19:55,380
No, I mean, I don't mean it that
what you grow No, I mean

1256
01:19:55,410 --> 01:20:00,480
obvious. I just want to find out
what it is they have before What

1257
01:20:00,480 --> 01:20:04,500
do they have they got chickens.
Oh, they have everything to say.

1258
01:20:05,070 --> 01:20:08,820
Yeah, it's sustainable farm
located in beautiful hill

1259
01:20:08,820 --> 01:20:12,480
country town of driftwood,
Texas. Yeah, that's not far from

1260
01:20:12,480 --> 01:20:17,730
here. 16 chickens, donkeys Oh
tasty. Nigerian tour coats.

1261
01:20:18,150 --> 01:20:22,140
Black Hawaiian lamb Holy crap.
What do they do with this? I get

1262
01:20:22,140 --> 01:20:28,530
they do eggs I guess animals.
Huh? Okay, well that sounds

1263
01:20:28,530 --> 01:20:32,400
fine. I guess you get eggs and
go pet the goat. Nice. Well, we

1264
01:20:32,400 --> 01:20:34,620
appreciate that and we're gonna
I'm gonna I'm gonna look more

1265
01:20:34,620 --> 01:20:37,890
into that because I love going
to farms. And you're not that

1266
01:20:37,890 --> 01:20:41,250
far away. Cool. Mix your
neighbor. Hey, you know you got

1267
01:20:41,250 --> 01:20:44,610
to know farmers. That's the only
way to survival for God knows

1268
01:20:44,610 --> 01:20:49,680
what's common. Steven smoker $71
always says thanks. So we thank

1269
01:20:49,680 --> 01:20:54,450
you, Steven. Eric p $60. No note
but much appreciated Zach Welch.

1270
01:20:54,720 --> 01:20:59,820
$55 and says is DeVore ag buying
it? Can I get a biscuit?

1271
01:20:59,880 --> 01:21:02,280
Always give me a biscuit on my
birthday.

1272
01:21:03,810 --> 01:21:09,750
Inside joke appreciated Jack.
Zack cook comes in with $50 and

1273
01:21:09,750 --> 01:21:13,290
says I'd like to request a D
dead beating into mo karma. Keep

1274
01:21:13,290 --> 01:21:16,140
up the amazing work as you in
the no agenda world have

1275
01:21:16,140 --> 01:21:19,140
awakened me from the Matrix.

1276
01:21:21,120 --> 01:21:28,500
Congratulations. You're no
longer dead. You've got mocha.

1277
01:21:29,880 --> 01:21:36,300
Thank you, Douglas, for your $50
support. Terry, Kobe Elka says

1278
01:21:36,300 --> 01:21:39,450
my last donation timed out as
the daughter of a Vietnam vet.

1279
01:21:40,140 --> 01:21:45,000
Volunteer 717 years old. I
appreciate your perspective. And

1280
01:21:45,000 --> 01:21:47,550
comment in the last episode that
I'm finishing up this evening.

1281
01:21:47,550 --> 01:21:51,840
Thank you for helping with my
sanity perspective. I'm all with

1282
01:21:51,840 --> 01:21:56,040
the VAX draft. Keep it up. I
also make T shirts stickers in

1283
01:21:56,040 --> 01:21:59,040
my spare time and I have a few
design ideas. Here we go. I want

1284
01:21:59,040 --> 01:22:04,110
to share once I put them
together. Thank you. Tp Oh yes,

1285
01:22:04,110 --> 01:22:06,630
please. That's exactly the kind
of stuff we're talking about.

1286
01:22:06,690 --> 01:22:10,440
That'd be great. Just didn't,
you know, no agenda. We did a

1287
01:22:10,440 --> 01:22:15,360
lot of sticker campaigns. And
people still like it. Especially

1288
01:22:15,360 --> 01:22:18,120
for their laptops. And it's in
that it's like one of those

1289
01:22:18,120 --> 01:22:21,300
things and if you have a cool
sticker that go what is that US

1290
01:22:21,300 --> 01:22:22,830
podcast? Yeah.

1291
01:22:22,890 --> 01:22:24,210
Especially for your Trapper
Keeper.

1292
01:22:24,449 --> 01:22:30,299
Exactly. Ryan summer $50 says I
got off a cross country fight

1293
01:22:30,299 --> 01:22:34,619
and the latest episode made the
time fly by Oh, so I figured it

1294
01:22:34,619 --> 01:22:36,629
was time to send another
donation. I feel like we are

1295
01:22:36,629 --> 01:22:40,169
kindred spirits. I'm currently
approaching Vax ultimatum to

1296
01:22:40,169 --> 01:22:42,719
return to the office in January
even though I've been working

1297
01:22:42,719 --> 01:22:45,749
remote since the pandemic
started with no drop off in

1298
01:22:45,749 --> 01:22:48,779
production. I'm in the process
of trying to secure religious

1299
01:22:48,779 --> 01:22:51,629
exemption even though I don't
feel good about the SI had to

1300
01:22:51,629 --> 01:22:55,019
write about my strongly held
beliefs. It's actually I think,

1301
01:22:55,019 --> 01:22:58,589
unconstitutional that they asked
you to do that. Hmm. I do have

1302
01:22:58,589 --> 01:23:01,229
religious objections as a
Christian but that's definitely

1303
01:23:01,229 --> 01:23:03,839
not my only objection to
mandates. I wish I was a little

1304
01:23:03,839 --> 01:23:07,319
stronger like you and just said
no. If they tried to deny my

1305
01:23:07,319 --> 01:23:10,349
exemption, I'll just be saying
no, and we'll figure it out.

1306
01:23:10,349 --> 01:23:13,979
From there. I have a six year
old who will not who will not be

1307
01:23:13,979 --> 01:23:17,699
getting vaccinated and living in
California, I'm sure that will

1308
01:23:17,699 --> 01:23:20,729
eventually lead to another big
decision to make. Stay strong

1309
01:23:20,729 --> 01:23:23,399
brother keep churning out the
great content Ryan in

1310
01:23:23,399 --> 01:23:27,269
Stephenson's ranch, and I want
to make sure that that everyone

1311
01:23:27,449 --> 01:23:31,619
understands I think, you know,
Moe will agree, your decisions,

1312
01:23:31,619 --> 01:23:37,109
your decisions, we support you
either way. And you can be

1313
01:23:37,109 --> 01:23:40,349
strong. If you want to be
strong. You can, you can do it.

1314
01:23:40,619 --> 01:23:43,349
But don't feel bad if you make
another choice.

1315
01:23:43,920 --> 01:23:46,770
Can I speak on this right
quickly? Just one sec, please.

1316
01:23:48,150 --> 01:23:52,530
For me, and I think you're the
same way we're pro choice. A

1317
01:23:52,530 --> 01:23:55,530
person should have the choice
with what they do. If you want

1318
01:23:55,530 --> 01:24:00,810
to get vaccinated, that's your
choice. The problem when it

1319
01:24:00,810 --> 01:24:03,420
comes in is when you take
people's choice away. And that's

1320
01:24:03,420 --> 01:24:08,250
the only thing we're saying.
Right and a lot of people have

1321
01:24:08,970 --> 01:24:11,700
taken a vaccine and willing to
take the boosters but still

1322
01:24:11,700 --> 01:24:15,210
respect that people's fat that
don't want to take it see this

1323
01:24:15,210 --> 01:24:19,470
does not get into that binary
situation. This changed the

1324
01:24:19,470 --> 01:24:23,970
argument or discussion from Pro
vac anti Vax to pro choice anti

1325
01:24:23,970 --> 01:24:27,540
shorts, and I think it'll make
for a better conversation. Yeah.

1326
01:24:28,260 --> 01:24:30,990
So you don't have to apologize
to us. I guess what I'm saying

1327
01:24:30,990 --> 01:24:37,470
Oh, no, exactly. But, you know,
be true to yourself. And to

1328
01:24:37,470 --> 01:24:40,080
round it out for our night
should say that these are

1329
01:24:40,080 --> 01:24:44,340
Associate Executive Producers
the previous previous up to

1330
01:24:44,340 --> 01:24:47,430
$100. Were executive producers.
Sorry for not mentioning that.

1331
01:24:47,670 --> 01:24:51,840
James Carter $50. Y'all keep it
up. Is there any correlation of

1332
01:24:51,840 --> 01:24:55,380
poppy Bush's death, the onset of
this fentanyl epidemic and our

1333
01:24:55,380 --> 01:24:57,060
withdrawal from Afghanistan?

1334
01:24:59,190 --> 01:25:03,450
I think I would think so. I
mean, you can see it is that

1335
01:25:03,900 --> 01:25:07,560
they lost a business venture due
to counterfeit.

1336
01:25:07,950 --> 01:25:11,340
Yes, I would say there's one
other thing, but it's, it's a

1337
01:25:11,340 --> 01:25:17,670
longer story. I think that the
wrap up of the Oxycontin,

1338
01:25:19,380 --> 01:25:23,400
situation with the fines for the
Sacklers, which, by the way,

1339
01:25:23,400 --> 01:25:29,070
Johnson and Johnson four times
as bad today, CVS, Walgreens,

1340
01:25:29,100 --> 01:25:36,390
and one more, were all found
guilty of, in essence, being

1341
01:25:36,390 --> 01:25:42,720
drug dealers handing out pills.
And, you know, now the hammers

1342
01:25:42,720 --> 01:25:46,710
come down, it's harder for
people to get their pills. You

1343
01:25:46,710 --> 01:25:53,280
create demand, and then you kill
Poppy bush. Afghanistan keep CIA

1344
01:25:53,280 --> 01:25:56,250
there to fly the ship back.
Yeah, yes. So answer is yeah, I

1345
01:25:56,250 --> 01:25:59,790
think they're probably
correlation. worse for me, hey,

1346
01:25:59,790 --> 01:26:02,520
thank you to these executive and
Associate Executive producers,

1347
01:26:02,700 --> 01:26:05,880
it really appreciate the support
you've given us so far, let's

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01:26:05,880 --> 01:26:09,600
crank it up a notch. And let's
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1357
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1365
01:27:13,770 --> 01:27:16,260
part of this with you as well.
And thanks everybody for

1366
01:27:16,260 --> 01:27:19,170
producing episode 71 of both
facts with Adam curry.

1367
01:27:22,290 --> 01:27:30,000
So now we got to get back into
the timeline. And, um, this is a

1368
01:27:30,000 --> 01:27:33,360
longer clip, you can stop it
whenever you like. But in this

1369
01:27:33,360 --> 01:27:37,320
timeline, it's like almost 202
minutes and 30 seconds. I hope

1370
01:27:37,320 --> 01:27:41,010
that you do stop it from time to
time. But this covers from their

1371
01:27:41,010 --> 01:27:48,120
first interaction with cow and
the first person that he shot

1372
01:27:48,450 --> 01:27:53,430
down to the final person that he
shot. So his whole their whole

1373
01:27:53,430 --> 01:27:57,180
rendition of what happened. And
once again this ABC News so you

1374
01:27:57,180 --> 01:27:59,400
can stop and whenever you like
if there's some points that you

1375
01:27:59,400 --> 01:28:03,000
want to address, so you can go
and begin to clip now

1376
01:28:03,120 --> 01:28:06,840
at 10:04pm. A video shows a
group of armed men protecting a

1377
01:28:06,840 --> 01:28:11,520
car shop at the corner of 59th
and Sheridan. And one young man

1378
01:28:11,550 --> 01:28:13,350
well just stop it right here and

1379
01:28:18,810 --> 01:28:22,530
how many seconds was it? Let me
see it was I was actually

1380
01:28:22,530 --> 01:28:24,960
rubbing my eye too. It would
have been it was eight seconds

1381
01:28:24,960 --> 01:28:28,470
in so it didn't take me long.
Yes, I do like the dramatization

1382
01:28:28,470 --> 01:28:31,230
of it. It's already the
soundscape. The mix is

1383
01:28:31,230 --> 01:28:35,670
beautiful. I'd like the voice
they chose for this innocent

1384
01:28:35,670 --> 01:28:38,670
girl. The whole thing is it's
working for me. I think this is

1385
01:28:38,850 --> 01:28:41,040
outstanding on the propaganda
scale.

1386
01:28:41,190 --> 01:28:46,110
And the green t shirt and
backwards baseball cap says a

1387
01:28:46,110 --> 01:28:48,840
little over an hour later
protesters gathered at an

1388
01:28:48,840 --> 01:28:52,980
ultimate gas station at 16th. In
Sheridan, we see a man who

1389
01:28:52,980 --> 01:28:56,010
appears to be Joseph Rosenbaum,
one of the shooting victims

1390
01:28:56,040 --> 01:29:01,230
clash with armed men also
gathered back at the car shop at

1391
01:29:01,230 --> 01:29:01,620
15

1392
01:29:01,620 --> 01:29:07,350
wow they really did the sound
editing to AHA wow this is good.

1393
01:29:07,470 --> 01:29:09,840
Was it they switch to vid this
video when they did when you

1394
01:29:09,840 --> 01:29:13,920
heard that as well? Should they
pop in you see Angry Men? This

1395
01:29:13,920 --> 01:29:15,240
is good. Yes, yes, it's good

1396
01:29:15,420 --> 01:29:20,580
armed men also gathered back at
the car shop at 59th and

1397
01:29:20,580 --> 01:29:23,880
Sheraton the same young man who
appears to be Kyle Rittenhouse

1398
01:29:23,880 --> 01:29:28,230
can be seen asking law
enforcement for water and the

1399
01:29:28,230 --> 01:29:30,150
officers can be heard speaking
to the group.

1400
01:29:31,200 --> 01:29:40,080
We really do it's so funny. I
love not seeing the video

1401
01:29:40,380 --> 01:29:43,650
because what I expected you know
officers can be seen talking to

1402
01:29:43,650 --> 01:29:47,430
the group. What to expect is a
bunch of cops said hey guys, you

1403
01:29:47,430 --> 01:29:53,340
know, just keep it calm tonight.
No one says like I said that's

1404
01:29:53,340 --> 01:29:57,510
not officers talking to them.
That's not the same thing. That

1405
01:29:57,510 --> 01:30:00,840
is not community policing.
There's gonna be hurt Sorry

1406
01:30:01,289 --> 01:30:03,599
and why you got to stop I want
to make the point how they said

1407
01:30:03,599 --> 01:30:06,509
like the cops gay cow water like
you're saying like he's in a

1408
01:30:06,509 --> 01:30:08,189
timeout break it's like here you
go

1409
01:30:12,420 --> 01:30:15,840
go back. Yeah hydrated for what
you see you're killing. You're

1410
01:30:15,840 --> 01:30:17,370
killing spree. That's right.

1411
01:30:18,060 --> 01:30:21,570
And the officers can be heard
speaking to the group we really

1412
01:30:21,570 --> 01:30:27,600
do. At 11:48pm Gunshots bring
out over gunshots on their first

1413
01:30:27,600 --> 01:30:31,620
four bursts. Then three, a man
who police identified as

1414
01:30:31,620 --> 01:30:34,530
Rittenhouse runs across the
parking lot of an auto service

1415
01:30:34,530 --> 01:30:37,740
shop, followed by a shirtless
man who was later identified as

1416
01:30:37,740 --> 01:30:47,220
Joseph Moses. Moments later
shots rang out and the shirtless

1417
01:30:47,220 --> 01:30:50,190
man falls to the ground. A
figure who appears to be

1418
01:30:50,190 --> 01:30:53,940
Rittenhouse continues running.
seconds later he comes back into

1419
01:30:53,940 --> 01:30:58,860
view and bystanders arrived to
help the victim. Britton house

1420
01:30:58,860 --> 01:31:03,540
can be seen standing by the body
making a phone call. As more

1421
01:31:03,540 --> 01:31:07,020
people arrive he runs away out
of frame and someone seems to be

1422
01:31:07,020 --> 01:31:14,550
heard saying I shot somebody. At
1149 multiple videos show

1423
01:31:14,550 --> 01:31:17,460
Britton house running down the
street as a pursuer tries to hit

1424
01:31:17,460 --> 01:31:21,180
him. Rittenhouse is being chased
by several people when he

1425
01:31:21,180 --> 01:31:25,440
appears to stumble and fall to
the ground. While on the ground.

1426
01:31:25,470 --> 01:31:28,770
Police say he fires at least
four shots striking two people

1427
01:31:29,760 --> 01:31:34,080
Anthony Huber is shot and lies
motionless industry douche gross

1428
01:31:34,080 --> 01:31:37,020
breaks is shot in the arm and
appears to be holding Whoa,

1429
01:31:37,020 --> 01:31:43,290
whoa, whoa. Whoa, I mean, we
weren't gonna go through the

1430
01:31:43,290 --> 01:31:47,250
details of this but they just
they had a lot of detail and

1431
01:31:47,250 --> 01:31:51,840
then all of a sudden they skip
over the guy kicking him in the

1432
01:31:51,840 --> 01:31:56,940
face skateboard gone pointing no
skateboard No, none of that

1433
01:31:56,939 --> 01:31:59,159
Chase. This is how this took

1434
01:31:59,159 --> 01:32:02,849
off running. They just it's like
they compress that into five

1435
01:32:02,849 --> 01:32:03,689
seconds.

1436
01:32:04,350 --> 01:32:07,920
Right so I just while I wanted
to play this just so we could

1437
01:32:07,920 --> 01:32:13,830
get the context of how the media
sold this situation. Um, like I

1438
01:32:13,830 --> 01:32:15,600
said they just glossed over

1439
01:32:15,719 --> 01:32:19,799
everything. No, he points the
whole key points of the case.

1440
01:32:20,040 --> 01:32:23,940
Exactly. So we could continue
on. Wow.

1441
01:32:25,979 --> 01:32:29,099
1149 multiple videos show
Britain house running down the

1442
01:32:29,099 --> 01:32:33,269
street as a pursuer tries to hit
him. Rittenhouse is being chased

1443
01:32:33,269 --> 01:32:36,209
by several people when he
appears to stumble and fall to

1444
01:32:36,209 --> 01:32:40,409
the ground. While on the ground.
Police say he fires at least

1445
01:32:40,409 --> 01:32:44,879
four shots striking two people.
Anthony Huber is shot and lies

1446
01:32:44,879 --> 01:32:48,869
motionless industry. Gage gross
breaks is shot in the arm and

1447
01:32:48,869 --> 01:32:51,329
appears to be holding a handgun
according to the criminal

1448
01:32:51,329 --> 01:32:56,249
complaint. Rittenhouse gets up
and runs down the street as

1449
01:32:56,249 --> 01:32:59,609
police arrive at the scene.
People in the crowd can be heard

1450
01:32:59,609 --> 01:33:05,399
yelling Rittenhouse raises his
hands while his rifle hangs

1451
01:33:05,399 --> 01:33:08,699
around his torso and a number of
police vehicles drive past him.

1452
01:33:10,859 --> 01:33:13,619
He walks towards a squad car
which is parked near the First

1453
01:33:13,619 --> 01:33:19,019
United Methodist Church. This is
the last time we see him on

1454
01:33:19,019 --> 01:33:23,369
video ABC News obtained
Rittenhouse was not arrested

1455
01:33:23,369 --> 01:33:27,659
that night and Kenosha pa got
away.

1456
01:33:28,859 --> 01:33:33,509
Gosh, that is that's very you
know, there's something unique

1457
01:33:33,509 --> 01:33:38,909
about about this, this podcast,
which is 100% attributable to

1458
01:33:38,909 --> 01:33:43,979
you is you know an analysis
exactly of what we just did. We

1459
01:33:43,979 --> 01:33:48,659
can only do that because we let
this sit, we let it marinate we

1460
01:33:48,689 --> 01:33:53,849
you know we collect our own
information over time. It just

1461
01:33:53,849 --> 01:33:57,989
takes time and every other
analysis that is done right at

1462
01:33:57,989 --> 01:34:01,889
right after something has
happened is shit. You know and

1463
01:34:01,919 --> 01:34:07,979
and only. Only because we have
waited we wait for these things

1464
01:34:07,979 --> 01:34:12,719
before we do a show. It's really
so clear how bad the propaganda

1465
01:34:12,719 --> 01:34:18,839
is, and just complete fake fake
news. And then let me see if I

1466
01:34:18,839 --> 01:34:22,169
can. We should just have this
during a whole show. We'll have

1467
01:34:22,169 --> 01:34:26,759
the scary working on the
Theramin live okay.

1468
01:34:28,500 --> 01:34:36,630
That's exactly the point though,
that we have to wait is so you

1469
01:34:36,630 --> 01:34:40,140
know if we were chasing numbers
and chasing views and that kind

1470
01:34:40,140 --> 01:34:42,810
of thing. We're breaking news,
breaking news, breaking news,

1471
01:34:42,840 --> 01:34:45,240
and that's why I got so
frustrated with everybody's

1472
01:34:45,480 --> 01:34:49,380
analysis like oh, they just got
on my lawyer now and I'm just

1473
01:34:49,380 --> 01:34:52,530
going to Oh, did you see that
and look at this in this using

1474
01:34:52,530 --> 01:34:57,450
Oh, no. Yeah. Oh, no. See what
we're fed. We process what we're

1475
01:34:57,450 --> 01:34:59,730
being fed and see if it makes
sense or not.

1476
01:35:02,939 --> 01:35:04,169
That's where everyone comes
from.

1477
01:35:06,930 --> 01:35:12,660
So I'm what you want to give me
what you heard. Let's start.

1478
01:35:12,660 --> 01:35:16,380
Let's start right there. I'm
gonna tell you what some people

1479
01:35:16,440 --> 01:35:18,570
thought. And then we will go no,

1480
01:35:18,569 --> 01:35:22,799
I can't make it. Okay, go well,
do you want it? I don't know

1481
01:35:22,799 --> 01:35:24,149
what cuz I would probably want
to say

1482
01:35:24,149 --> 01:35:27,179
the same thing but not I'm not
gonna I'm not gonna go point by

1483
01:35:27,179 --> 01:35:30,959
point now just just what this
the narrative was, I know

1484
01:35:30,959 --> 01:35:34,799
exactly what the narrative was.
Let me go ahead I just humor me

1485
01:35:34,859 --> 01:35:36,689
and then I'll tell you if this
guy just started

1486
01:35:36,690 --> 01:35:41,670
shooting it black people just
shooting and shooting in the

1487
01:35:41,670 --> 01:35:45,810
wild and killed three people
killed two people and blew

1488
01:35:45,810 --> 01:35:49,770
another guy's arm up and that
was he was just the

1489
01:35:49,770 --> 01:35:50,580
troublemaker.

1490
01:35:52,529 --> 01:35:56,219
The narrative you're close with
just a few points you missed.

1491
01:35:56,849 --> 01:36:01,109
The narrative woods. Cow says
I'm sick and tired of the black

1492
01:36:01,109 --> 01:36:01,799
loud marathon.

1493
01:36:01,800 --> 01:36:02,550
Oh yes.

1494
01:36:02,970 --> 01:36:05,490
Yeah, I'm gonna do something
about it. I'm gonna throw my

1495
01:36:05,490 --> 01:36:09,150
hair on the back of my car and
get my mom to drive me across

1496
01:36:09,150 --> 01:36:13,770
state lines. So I can shoot some
black people that that's the

1497
01:36:13,770 --> 01:36:17,460
narrative and the way they sold
it work a lot a lot of people

1498
01:36:17,460 --> 01:36:21,330
are taught no no you forgot it
shoot it shoot me some black

1499
01:36:21,330 --> 01:36:25,080
people. Yeah, shoot me some
black now you've got the

1500
01:36:25,080 --> 01:36:26,010
complete narrative.

1501
01:36:26,430 --> 01:36:33,240
So and then on top of that is
that he actually shot three

1502
01:36:33,240 --> 01:36:35,850
protesters that are black lives
matter.

1503
01:36:37,350 --> 01:36:39,720
Okay, so I said I thought you
were asking me what I heard in

1504
01:36:39,720 --> 01:36:42,630
the clip. Yes, this narrative
now of course well aware.

1505
01:36:43,380 --> 01:36:46,770
No. So I'm just telling you,
that's the if you didn't worry,

1506
01:36:46,770 --> 01:36:49,860
I'm tapping into this case and
purposely rightfully so they

1507
01:36:49,860 --> 01:36:57,090
just left it vague. Man shoots,
Kid shoots, crosses state lines.

1508
01:36:57,240 --> 01:37:03,000
Yeah, cross state lines with an
AR 15 Scary 17 Yeah 17 killer

1509
01:37:03,000 --> 01:37:07,290
kid. And he goes and shoots
three people that black lives

1510
01:37:07,290 --> 01:37:10,950
matter rally not just by the law
the odds of it if you hear that

1511
01:37:10,950 --> 01:37:14,550
headline, man shoots people that
black lives matter rally is at

1512
01:37:14,550 --> 01:37:17,820
least going to be one dead black
person in there. Right? Yeah,

1513
01:37:17,820 --> 01:37:18,330
average is

1514
01:37:18,630 --> 01:37:23,700
at least someone who identifies
as black. You would think this

1515
01:37:23,700 --> 01:37:27,600
kind of like what was the kid's
name that sparked the 94 crime

1516
01:37:27,600 --> 01:37:28,800
bill little

1517
01:37:29,790 --> 01:37:35,010
that is yes. Ah. You caught me
on the spot but

1518
01:37:35,670 --> 01:37:40,860
little little little were bad.
People are yelling at their

1519
01:37:40,860 --> 01:37:42,210
podcast app right?

1520
01:37:42,569 --> 01:37:46,109
No. Little yummy little yummy
there. Yeah,

1521
01:37:46,109 --> 01:37:48,869
this is kind of Rittenhouse is
the little white here. Yummy.

1522
01:37:48,869 --> 01:37:52,589
That's right. It's the new white
is the white little yummy. Yeah,

1523
01:37:52,979 --> 01:37:57,059
this is it. That's exactly Oh my
god. We now have 17 year old

1524
01:37:57,119 --> 01:37:58,259
Trump supporters.

1525
01:37:59,819 --> 01:38:04,559
Okay. They don't like heartless
and yeah, they wanted they

1526
01:38:04,559 --> 01:38:08,039
wanted to conflate him with
Dylann Roof.

1527
01:38:08,699 --> 01:38:12,509
Yeah shooter Yes, yes, there was
that

1528
01:38:13,680 --> 01:38:16,620
did go target black people I
mean, like that, that is a

1529
01:38:16,620 --> 01:38:19,590
factual statement that he went
to a black church to target

1530
01:38:19,590 --> 01:38:24,900
people so they wanted that
energy to roll into cow and

1531
01:38:24,900 --> 01:38:27,780
that's that's the end george
Zimmerman so he's like a

1532
01:38:28,290 --> 01:38:34,140
amalgamation of George Zimmerman
and and Dylan Ruth that's the

1533
01:38:34,140 --> 01:38:40,770
way they wanted to paint cow mmm
hmm So yeah, so that's that's

1534
01:38:41,700 --> 01:38:45,090
what to come to find out none of
the people and I've talked to

1535
01:38:45,090 --> 01:38:47,640
people who say you didn't you
know No, no, we're black right

1536
01:38:47,640 --> 01:38:48,960
and they like work like

1537
01:38:50,640 --> 01:38:56,940
black black people. Yes. Yeah,
well you know, the in a Dutch

1538
01:38:57,000 --> 01:39:02,430
Dutch newspapers cow Rittenhouse
who who shot three black black

1539
01:39:02,430 --> 01:39:05,280
protesters. And it's in the
newspaper

1540
01:39:05,280 --> 01:39:08,220
Black Lives Matter Black Lives
Matter do drop out and now that

1541
01:39:08,220 --> 01:39:11,220
protests but yeah, but it's
exactly to do it's easy to do

1542
01:39:11,220 --> 01:39:13,050
mentally. Yeah, yeah. Oh, no,
it's

1543
01:39:13,050 --> 01:39:19,200
not it's not a it's not a just
but I believe that this did open

1544
01:39:19,200 --> 01:39:23,160
up a small crack a little wedge
and a number of people I even

1545
01:39:23,160 --> 01:39:26,550
saw what's her name from Young
Turks.

1546
01:39:27,210 --> 01:39:29,070
Oh, and Annika barrier Anna.

1547
01:39:29,310 --> 01:39:32,850
She if Tina showed this to me,
she she did a whole session. You

1548
01:39:32,850 --> 01:39:37,560
know, I was really wrong. And
when I saw this live trial, I

1549
01:39:37,560 --> 01:39:39,930
thought that these were black
people that he shot that I was

1550
01:39:39,930 --> 01:39:43,710
really wrong. I have to
reevaluate my sources. That was

1551
01:39:43,710 --> 01:39:44,820
big of her man.

1552
01:39:45,330 --> 01:39:49,470
Now, what we had to do is
juxtapose what we just heard in

1553
01:39:49,470 --> 01:39:53,460
the Jacob Blake situation, where
they went over every fine to

1554
01:39:53,460 --> 01:39:57,330
every detail with fine teeth to
look for a reason for the cop

1555
01:39:57,330 --> 01:40:01,290
not to be justified, and then
the vagueness The cow situation.

1556
01:40:01,350 --> 01:40:07,470
Yeah. And it's sad because what
it is is sick. Well, we have to

1557
01:40:07,470 --> 01:40:10,710
ask the question why do you want
to manipulate me? People need to

1558
01:40:10,710 --> 01:40:13,530
start asking that question what
did they get out of manipulating

1559
01:40:13,530 --> 01:40:21,120
me? Ah, and they want an
outrage. But I don't know. So

1560
01:40:21,120 --> 01:40:23,970
let's get into who the victims
were.

1561
01:40:26,279 --> 01:40:31,259
Three shootings, two of them.
These are the men shot by Kyle

1562
01:40:31,259 --> 01:40:35,489
Rittenhouse the night of August
25 2020 and Kenosha 17. At the

1563
01:40:35,489 --> 01:40:39,029
time Rittenhouse claims he shot
the protesters in self defense.

1564
01:40:39,239 --> 01:40:42,449
A jury will have to listen to
testimony and watch reels of

1565
01:40:42,449 --> 01:40:47,759
video evidence before deciding.
36 year old Joseph Rosenbaum who

1566
01:40:47,759 --> 01:40:50,849
prosecutors say was unarmed was
the first man shot by

1567
01:40:50,849 --> 01:40:53,729
Rittenhouse seen here in video
edited and released by

1568
01:40:53,729 --> 01:40:57,299
Rittenhouse. His defense team
Rosenbaum from Texas was living

1569
01:40:57,299 --> 01:41:00,599
in Kenosha friends called him
JoJo he had a daughter and

1570
01:41:00,599 --> 01:41:06,449
fiance as Rittenhouse took off
down Sheridan road. Rittenhouse

1571
01:41:06,449 --> 01:41:09,749
falls to the ground shoots and
misses one man. Then Anthony

1572
01:41:09,749 --> 01:41:12,689
Huber uses his skateboard and
tries to take Rittenhouse his

1573
01:41:12,689 --> 01:41:13,049
gun

1574
01:41:13,350 --> 01:41:14,700
ran up on somebody

1575
01:41:17,159 --> 01:41:17,999
that was blatant.

1576
01:41:19,290 --> 01:41:23,010
You try to take a gun with his
skateboard. I mean, he's like He

1577
01:41:23,010 --> 01:41:26,790
comes rolling in on the
skateboard. Well, I know what

1578
01:41:26,970 --> 01:41:27,900
this was interesting.

1579
01:41:27,899 --> 01:41:31,439
Because yeah, in the trial
itself, the way the prosecution

1580
01:41:31,469 --> 01:41:36,029
tried to sell this was by saying
they thought he was an active

1581
01:41:36,029 --> 01:41:40,589
shooter. And any everybody was
doing anything they could to

1582
01:41:40,589 --> 01:41:46,169
bring down the active shooter,
which was an interesting take.

1583
01:41:47,849 --> 01:41:50,759
But that's not how active
shooters work active shooters

1584
01:41:50,969 --> 01:41:55,919
shoot. They don't like aim and
not aim. They shoot

1585
01:41:55,919 --> 01:41:59,219
indiscriminately. And they'll
empty a magazine and put it in

1586
01:41:59,219 --> 01:42:03,899
another one. And you know, that
kind of stuff. But that was that

1587
01:42:03,899 --> 01:42:07,499
was clearly they were trying to
manipulate what happened there.

1588
01:42:08,039 --> 01:42:12,179
And the skateboard. skateboard,
I should say, I've seen enough

1589
01:42:12,179 --> 01:42:16,109
videos. Look, when I was a kid,
I was a fervent skateboarder, I

1590
01:42:16,109 --> 01:42:19,349
can still wake surf and I still
got my balance, I can still do

1591
01:42:19,349 --> 01:42:22,739
some things. My insurance
company won't let me do it

1592
01:42:22,739 --> 01:42:29,069
anymore. But we never use the
skateboard as a weapon. And it's

1593
01:42:29,069 --> 01:42:33,179
a weapon. I see people beating
people with skateboards all day

1594
01:42:33,179 --> 01:42:33,629
long.

1595
01:42:34,620 --> 01:42:39,900
There's a famous movie, our pop
culture classes where they call

1596
01:42:39,900 --> 01:42:44,640
them call kids. And one of the
most famous scenes from is a man

1597
01:42:44,640 --> 01:42:48,690
getting beat almost to death
with a skateboard. So a

1598
01:42:48,690 --> 01:42:51,870
skateboarder can definitely be a
weapon. Oh, that's just the way

1599
01:42:51,870 --> 01:42:55,200
they said that. Like he tried to
disarm him with the skateboard.

1600
01:42:55,200 --> 01:42:58,320
Like, you could take that as
like he came skating in and be

1601
01:42:58,320 --> 01:42:59,220
like, you know,

1602
01:42:59,310 --> 01:43:00,030
368

1603
01:43:04,800 --> 01:43:07,290
What do you mean he shot it? No,
he tried to whack him over the

1604
01:43:07,290 --> 01:43:09,600
head. And maybe that dude
thought he was active shooter

1605
01:43:09,600 --> 01:43:11,970
but he made the wrong call.
Yeah, I mean, you don't run

1606
01:43:11,970 --> 01:43:15,420
towards you don't you don't run
to an active shooter. I mean,

1607
01:43:15,420 --> 01:43:19,620
you can if I have a gun maybe.
But you know, as they always

1608
01:43:19,620 --> 01:43:24,120
say, he brought a skateboard to
a gunfight. And that's it.

1609
01:43:24,120 --> 01:43:30,120
That's a bad idea. Now. We've
talked about the the, you know,

1610
01:43:30,420 --> 01:43:34,470
cow, but let's talk about the
men that were out there that got

1611
01:43:34,470 --> 01:43:37,950
shot. They don't want to talk
about their arrest records we

1612
01:43:37,950 --> 01:43:42,000
can get into if you want to a
little bit, but this is that

1613
01:43:42,000 --> 01:43:46,020
third wave I was telling
everybody about when we talked

1614
01:43:46,020 --> 01:43:47,850
about the George Floyd, I think

1615
01:43:47,850 --> 01:43:50,700
I think we think you do need to
get into this. It's important

1616
01:43:50,700 --> 01:43:52,470
that we get into their
backgrounds because it is the

1617
01:43:52,470 --> 01:43:54,810
third wave. So let's do a little
recap.

1618
01:43:55,200 --> 01:43:58,830
Okay, so the first wave is the
activist they come out there

1619
01:43:58,860 --> 01:44:01,380
Okay, so you have an event
happened to shooting like Jacob

1620
01:44:01,380 --> 01:44:04,380
Black or whatever, the first
wave or your activist and they

1621
01:44:04,380 --> 01:44:06,840
come out there and they get
people are charged with the

1622
01:44:06,840 --> 01:44:12,120
chance and the, you know, a
piece No justice, no peace, that

1623
01:44:12,120 --> 01:44:16,320
kind of thing. Then nightfall
comes second way comes in. Those

1624
01:44:16,320 --> 01:44:20,460
are your agent provocateurs.
Those are the ones that actually

1625
01:44:20,460 --> 01:44:21,600
break the glass. They

1626
01:44:21,599 --> 01:44:25,229
were the umbrellas and the and
the glass breaking devices,

1627
01:44:25,409 --> 01:44:28,139
right? Because once you break
that glass, as we talked about

1628
01:44:28,169 --> 01:44:31,829
interesting a lot on the show,
is once the glass breaks is kind

1629
01:44:31,829 --> 01:44:34,259
of metaphorical or
representative of civility

1630
01:44:34,259 --> 01:44:38,639
breaking. And once that glass
breaks, and nightfall comes here

1631
01:44:38,639 --> 01:44:42,149
come the third wave, which I
said we're criminals. Now it

1632
01:44:42,149 --> 01:44:46,529
just so happens. Rosen Bohm, or
whatever his name is I

1633
01:44:46,589 --> 01:44:50,429
mispronounce it. But he the
first Joe Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe,

1634
01:44:50,429 --> 01:44:55,649
Joe. Yeah. Nice. They just call
him just Joe. Joe. Oh, Joe, Joe.

1635
01:44:58,109 --> 01:45:04,139
So Joe, Joe, he's out front with
the bag, when his personal

1636
01:45:04,139 --> 01:45:07,469
effects is the clear sign that
you just been released them some

1637
01:45:07,469 --> 01:45:11,879
kind of facility or jail or
whatnot. And he's out there

1638
01:45:11,879 --> 01:45:18,119
screaming shoot me in Word shoot
me in Word. Um, I don't know, I

1639
01:45:18,119 --> 01:45:22,109
don't know, when we start
panning out passes by and this

1640
01:45:22,109 --> 01:45:25,619
is the this. I know I'm jumping
all over the place. But this is

1641
01:45:25,619 --> 01:45:29,249
the disingenuous part I have
with people that wanted to get

1642
01:45:29,249 --> 01:45:33,359
involved in this case. When did
we start passing out the N word?

1643
01:45:33,539 --> 01:45:38,189
Yeah. As anybody Yeah. And I saw
black people standing around

1644
01:45:38,189 --> 01:45:41,789
looking down line. Didn't do it
gotta be crazy. Like you're at a

1645
01:45:41,789 --> 01:45:43,709
black rally.

1646
01:45:43,739 --> 01:45:46,259
I'm shouting shoot me and word.

1647
01:45:46,560 --> 01:45:55,530
Right. That's the thing to do.
Yeah, now, um, then you have

1648
01:45:55,590 --> 01:45:58,800
other other guys that also have
criminal records. And it's just

1649
01:45:58,830 --> 01:46:03,090
it what it seems to me is this
debt bail thing? No bail,

1650
01:46:03,240 --> 01:46:07,110
bailing people out. Okay. They
keep Yeah, no. Well, they had to

1651
01:46:07,110 --> 01:46:12,000
keep the the ranks fool. So
like, we need more bodies, like,

1652
01:46:12,270 --> 01:46:15,060
because nobody was interested in
protesting this case.

1653
01:46:15,510 --> 01:46:18,750
Now should they just let Joe Joe
out for this? You think

1654
01:46:19,080 --> 01:46:22,350
Joe Joe had a plastic bag with
his personal effects in it? You

1655
01:46:22,350 --> 01:46:26,820
can look it up. This this is
this is a fact. He had just been

1656
01:46:26,820 --> 01:46:29,280
recently released. I don't know
if it was from a medical

1657
01:46:29,280 --> 01:46:34,650
institute or a jail. But he had
just recently that day really

1658
01:46:34,649 --> 01:46:38,339
hadn't. He hadn't he sodomized
young boys was not the guy.

1659
01:46:38,580 --> 01:46:41,340
Oh, and that's what a lot of
people that's where I met with

1660
01:46:41,340 --> 01:46:46,530
like, Oh, he's a pedophile. I
mean, like, I know, that's bad

1661
01:46:46,530 --> 01:46:53,910
to say but you close the door.
Don't get we got to talk

1662
01:46:54,420 --> 01:46:59,160
a second. This is important. We
have to hold on a second. Okay.

1663
01:46:59,400 --> 01:47:00,990
Just slammed it. There you go.

1664
01:47:02,010 --> 01:47:06,990
Yeah, we have to talk when the
black folks start getting so

1665
01:47:06,990 --> 01:47:10,050
involved in white on white
crime. That that's all I'm

1666
01:47:10,050 --> 01:47:15,510
asking. Is just amazes me how
people are just so all broken up

1667
01:47:15,510 --> 01:47:19,080
over Joe Joe. He was saying the
pedophile, not the other Joe,

1668
01:47:19,080 --> 01:47:22,290
not Brandon, but Jojo. Um,

1669
01:47:23,310 --> 01:47:26,190
you know, the other day Okay,
nevermind, bad joke.

1670
01:47:27,479 --> 01:47:33,449
Right? It was inferred? Yes, I
do. But, um, they're just so

1671
01:47:33,449 --> 01:47:37,859
heartbroken over a one white guy
shooting three other white guys.

1672
01:47:39,389 --> 01:47:42,329
If you saw this, like a
workplace shooting or anything

1673
01:47:42,329 --> 01:47:45,839
else, people are like, you know,
this. That's how it goes. But

1674
01:47:45,839 --> 01:47:49,049
now is they scared you to the
point like, oh, he was coming to

1675
01:47:49,049 --> 01:47:53,069
kill Black people. But you know,
he didn't have a chance to? That

1676
01:47:53,069 --> 01:47:56,099
doesn't make any sense. And the
other thing that shows me is

1677
01:47:56,729 --> 01:48:03,479
when you have that many shots
fired, and you're hitting all

1678
01:48:03,479 --> 01:48:07,649
white people, maybe that's not a
Black Lives Matter ref rename

1679
01:48:07,649 --> 01:48:11,609
it. I'm just saying I'm this is
just, this is just my pure,

1680
01:48:11,609 --> 01:48:14,519
uncut take on this thing. And
that's why I didn't get really

1681
01:48:14,519 --> 01:48:18,359
involved in it. Because when I
saw I was like, well, it is what

1682
01:48:18,359 --> 01:48:20,189
it is. Um, well, I knew that

1683
01:48:20,280 --> 01:48:26,490
the takeaway, the takeaway far
beyond anything is people have

1684
01:48:26,490 --> 01:48:29,970
an opinion based, they're under
informed and over socialized,

1685
01:48:29,970 --> 01:48:33,060
this is what I've always said,
they have an opinion based on a

1686
01:48:33,060 --> 01:48:37,620
headline, and they feel the
necessity to let everyone know

1687
01:48:37,620 --> 01:48:40,380
that they have this opinion or
that they share the same

1688
01:48:40,380 --> 01:48:44,070
opinion. It's, it's and it's
it's just based on nothing and

1689
01:48:44,160 --> 01:48:47,940
and hopefully enough people feel
a bit ashamed about what they

1690
01:48:47,940 --> 01:48:49,230
might have said or posted.

1691
01:48:49,770 --> 01:48:54,180
And also liking this to just the
fact that we are open to do this

1692
01:48:54,360 --> 01:48:58,980
is the fact that I think people
just pick sides based on race.

1693
01:48:59,610 --> 01:49:03,720
And white guys bad. And I must
say this cow does have a very

1694
01:49:03,720 --> 01:49:09,840
punchable face. I mean,
observation. I mean, he mean, we

1695
01:49:09,840 --> 01:49:12,630
said that in high school like
God, certain guys, you just look

1696
01:49:12,630 --> 01:49:16,620
at him like he was like that
guy. Not to say he should be

1697
01:49:16,620 --> 01:49:20,490
harmed, but I'm just saying that
he just he has the wrong optics

1698
01:49:20,760 --> 01:49:24,150
or the right optics. You know,
he just had that look about him.

1699
01:49:24,300 --> 01:49:28,020
I was Yeah, that's interesting,
because I look at him I can I

1700
01:49:28,020 --> 01:49:30,930
totally understand what you're
saying. And I can see that and

1701
01:49:30,930 --> 01:49:34,380
sometimes when he grimaces,
especially if it's a picture and

1702
01:49:34,380 --> 01:49:38,700
not video. Yeah, I mean, you put
the right caption under it, and

1703
01:49:38,700 --> 01:49:42,420
you totally see that but I also
sees he's just a baby that I

1704
01:49:42,420 --> 01:49:47,670
also see that he's just the baby
boy. Hmm. So I don't punch baby

1705
01:49:47,700 --> 01:49:52,080
boys. Mo Yeah. But your point is
well made.

1706
01:49:52,200 --> 01:49:56,100
He has that face like it just
that people just don't like him.

1707
01:49:56,160 --> 01:49:58,710
I mean, that's, that's my point.
Like certain people you see

1708
01:49:58,710 --> 01:50:02,820
that? You just don't like he has
that look almost saying this.

1709
01:50:02,970 --> 01:50:06,600
The media portrayed him in that
way like to say that they always

1710
01:50:06,600 --> 01:50:11,550
caught him on his lips pucker.
Teachers face so yes, the

1711
01:50:11,550 --> 01:50:14,370
pictures more there's more to
say. But yeah, I mean, so we

1712
01:50:14,370 --> 01:50:18,870
could open the door now but I
just want to say there we go

1713
01:50:18,900 --> 01:50:22,980
better. It was a lot of fake
outrage and a lot of cameras. It

1714
01:50:22,980 --> 01:50:25,050
was a lot of black hairs out
there. I'm just gonna keep it

1715
01:50:25,050 --> 01:50:32,040
100 Oh Lerins Oh, oh, oh. Oh, he
got out. No. This is how it

1716
01:50:32,040 --> 01:50:36,390
works as far as self defense and
gun right. You heard the joy

1717
01:50:36,390 --> 01:50:40,560
rebid didn't show her? Yeah, I
heard them all. I mean, they

1718
01:50:40,560 --> 01:50:41,910
were melting now which?

1719
01:50:42,840 --> 01:50:45,270
I'm thinking this rumor she's
getting fired.

1720
01:50:46,290 --> 01:50:49,380
You know who's gonna replace
her? Don't tell Tiffany.

1721
01:50:50,460 --> 01:50:55,260
Tiffany. Yeah, Tiffany the one
the one that doesn't Saturday

1722
01:50:55,260 --> 01:51:00,720
show. The black lady on MSNBC.
She she feels infer Joy

1723
01:51:00,720 --> 01:51:05,760
sometimes. Tiffany, what is her
name? And you caught me off

1724
01:51:05,760 --> 01:51:06,060
guard.

1725
01:51:07,859 --> 01:51:08,639
Tiffany cross.

1726
01:51:09,180 --> 01:51:11,760
Yes. It was going to place her.
Yeah, she's

1727
01:51:11,760 --> 01:51:12,720
a better choice.

1728
01:51:13,229 --> 01:51:17,249
Cuz she is a Das. Yep. Yeah. We
got it. We got it. You got to

1729
01:51:17,249 --> 01:51:21,119
see a lot of not a das getting
people getting fired around

1730
01:51:21,119 --> 01:51:23,129
2022 2024 elections.

1731
01:51:23,370 --> 01:51:27,240
Yeah. Oh, you're so this is
that's a very good prediction.

1732
01:51:27,270 --> 01:51:30,660
They realize that that is not
working anymore. Wouldn't when

1733
01:51:30,660 --> 01:51:35,580
guys is white is Adam curry are
falling over that. Problems. Now

1734
01:51:35,580 --> 01:51:39,240
it's time to change that up.
Yes. Mm hmm.

1735
01:51:39,899 --> 01:51:42,299
And that's the other lady with
the effort you were talking

1736
01:51:42,299 --> 01:51:44,849
about as well. Should they?
They're bringing they're slowly

1737
01:51:45,179 --> 01:51:48,329
cycling in a new new group
because they she's, she's I

1738
01:51:48,569 --> 01:51:51,209
think she's a badass. Yeah, I
believe so. That's what I'm

1739
01:51:51,209 --> 01:51:53,819
saying. Like, there's they're
getting a beat Team. Are the

1740
01:51:53,999 --> 01:51:57,089
replacements ready? Yeah. So you
start to see him coming out?

1741
01:51:57,119 --> 01:51:57,239
Well,

1742
01:51:57,449 --> 01:52:01,289
it'll be fresh faces. It'll be
fun. Makes television

1743
01:52:01,289 --> 01:52:04,289
Interesting. Yeah, I'm all for
that. You want to finish this?

1744
01:52:04,289 --> 01:52:05,549
16 a clip. Whoa.

1745
01:52:05,730 --> 01:52:07,890
Yeah, let's go ahead. I'm sorry
about that. Yeah, no problem.

1746
01:52:07,890 --> 01:52:08,400
Huber

1747
01:52:08,430 --> 01:52:11,970
uses his skateboard and tries to
take written houses gun. He ran

1748
01:52:12,000 --> 01:52:14,940
up on somebody with an assault
rifle there with nothing like he

1749
01:52:14,940 --> 01:52:16,680
was just going to tackle due to
the ground,

1750
01:52:16,770 --> 01:52:20,040
Rittenhouse fired killing 26
year old Hooper who also lived

1751
01:52:20,040 --> 01:52:23,310
in Kenosha. His girlfriend
tearfully spoke with 12 News.

1752
01:52:23,460 --> 01:52:24,870
The very next day he

1753
01:52:24,870 --> 01:52:29,550
already killed someone he killed
someone already and then he

1754
01:52:29,550 --> 01:52:36,210
killed my my wife is ripped him
away like

1755
01:52:36,569 --> 01:52:39,839
after Huber gauge goes crates of
West Dallas in the crowd as a

1756
01:52:39,839 --> 01:52:43,199
medic approaches Rittenhouse who
is still on the ground close

1757
01:52:43,199 --> 01:52:47,969
quotes is armed with a handgun.
How shoots him in the arm. He

1758
01:52:47,969 --> 01:52:48,689
was the lowest

1759
01:52:48,989 --> 01:52:50,159
wait what did he say?

1760
01:52:50,250 --> 01:52:52,830
What to what about Yeah.

1761
01:52:55,830 --> 01:52:59,100
After Huber gauge crews crites
at West Dallas in the crowd as a

1762
01:52:59,100 --> 01:53:02,460
medic approaches Rittenhouse who
is still on the ground who's

1763
01:53:02,460 --> 01:53:07,410
crises armed with a handgun. How
shoots him in the arm. He was

1764
01:53:07,410 --> 01:53:14,070
the lone survivor. I walked away
with my life that night. Two

1765
01:53:14,070 --> 01:53:17,250
people then the judge ruled
prosecutors cannot call the

1766
01:53:17,250 --> 01:53:20,610
three men shot victims but is
allowing the defense to call

1767
01:53:20,610 --> 01:53:23,910
them looters writers or
arsonist. They can prove it.

1768
01:53:24,150 --> 01:53:26,880
Reporting I'm Hillary man
suddenly YsN 12 News.

1769
01:53:27,060 --> 01:53:29,820
Nice touch to say that he was a
medic in the crowd.

1770
01:53:30,330 --> 01:53:35,190
That's what they portray that he
was coming. He was armed. Yeah.

1771
01:53:35,730 --> 01:53:37,110
brandishing the arm. No,

1772
01:53:37,109 --> 01:53:40,649
I was trying to put him on equal
footing with Kyle just a medic

1773
01:53:40,649 --> 01:53:41,669
who was armed.

1774
01:53:42,090 --> 01:53:45,240
But And also there was the
reason the way I heard it was

1775
01:53:45,240 --> 01:53:50,010
that he was coming in to give
cow aid. Yeah, he held his shot.

1776
01:53:50,010 --> 01:53:53,220
It was in such a blind range. He
was just letting it off for

1777
01:53:53,220 --> 01:53:54,090
everybody,

1778
01:53:54,120 --> 01:54:00,090
by the way. And I did I did. Say
this, um, no agenda I've been

1779
01:54:00,090 --> 01:54:03,840
in. I've been in court several
times, but the first time and it

1780
01:54:03,840 --> 01:54:06,960
was a civil trial was MTV
Networks suing me and I was

1781
01:54:06,960 --> 01:54:09,810
countersuing. And it was it was
interesting, because I've never

1782
01:54:09,810 --> 01:54:12,630
been to discovery. I've never
really been to court where the

1783
01:54:12,630 --> 01:54:15,900
judge and the whole vibe and
everything expensive lawyers, it

1784
01:54:15,900 --> 01:54:19,530
was kind of crazy. It was about
mtv.com domain name, different

1785
01:54:19,530 --> 01:54:25,920
story. And I remember the lawyer
for MTV presenting their case

1786
01:54:26,250 --> 01:54:31,320
with the same facts that I had.
And I remember sitting there

1787
01:54:31,320 --> 01:54:37,800
going Holy crap. Yeah, if you
presented that way, I looked

1788
01:54:37,800 --> 01:54:43,350
like a total douchebag who's
trying to steal from MTV, but

1789
01:54:43,350 --> 01:54:48,480
with the same facts, and I and
for me, that was like, Whoa,

1790
01:54:48,870 --> 01:54:51,360
that's really scary stuff.

1791
01:54:52,019 --> 01:54:55,409
That's why I was saying Lady
Justice had it. I had a serious

1792
01:54:55,439 --> 01:54:58,799
upskirt because people are now
seeing how the sausage is made.

1793
01:54:59,999 --> 01:55:04,589
was a bad idea to televisie
televise his trial, because it

1794
01:55:04,589 --> 01:55:09,419
did more harm than good to the
prosecution and prosecutors

1795
01:55:09,419 --> 01:55:13,649
across the country because now
we see, and we can being

1796
01:55:13,649 --> 01:55:17,489
complicit with the media, too,
you know, you see the people

1797
01:55:17,489 --> 01:55:21,029
with this kind of propaganda
we're hearing here. And we're

1798
01:55:21,029 --> 01:55:23,459
going to get in the next batch
of clips, these next eight

1799
01:55:23,459 --> 01:55:27,929
clips, we can kind of speed
through because there are a

1800
01:55:27,929 --> 01:55:30,509
segment of them that way. So it
seems like a lot of clips, but

1801
01:55:30,809 --> 01:55:36,779
it what it does is the
prosecution's claims, and see

1802
01:55:36,779 --> 01:55:39,569
how they line up with the two
previous clips that we heard and

1803
01:55:39,569 --> 01:55:42,839
what a media said happened.
Okay, so I got it. So this is

1804
01:55:42,839 --> 01:55:46,409
going back to Nate, the lawyer,
and he does the, this is where

1805
01:55:46,409 --> 01:55:50,189
he's great about, um, he does 50
hours in 10 minutes. So he did

1806
01:55:50,189 --> 01:55:56,039
the 50 hours of Nice work. Yeah,
so it saves you on, you know, 50

1807
01:55:56,039 --> 01:55:59,249
hours a minute that works for
me. So what he's going to do is

1808
01:55:59,249 --> 01:56:02,999
we like, we can play them and
then talk a little bit in

1809
01:56:02,999 --> 01:56:05,489
between them, but it's just
gonna highlight exactly what we

1810
01:56:05,489 --> 01:56:11,489
heard, and those clips but from
the prosecution's witnesses

1811
01:56:11,519 --> 01:56:14,219
standpoint, but the first two
are the opening statements one

1812
01:56:14,219 --> 01:56:17,609
and two are the opening
statements from the prosecution

1813
01:56:17,609 --> 01:56:21,119
and the defense so we can get
into 17. First, we'll start with

1814
01:56:21,119 --> 01:56:23,159
the opening statements. Now
opening statements are important

1815
01:56:23,159 --> 01:56:26,669
because it allows the jury to
get a preview of what each side

1816
01:56:26,669 --> 01:56:28,739
is going to present, you get a
preview of what the defense is

1817
01:56:28,739 --> 01:56:30,449
going to present, you're going
to get a preview of what the

1818
01:56:30,449 --> 01:56:33,569
prosecutor is going to present.
So the state essentially painted

1819
01:56:33,569 --> 01:56:38,069
Carl as a vigilante and
essentially said that cow chase

1820
01:56:38,069 --> 01:56:41,729
down and try to kill the
victims. The defendant,

1821
01:56:41,730 --> 01:56:45,840
Kyle Rittenhouse, who was 17
years old at the time, had armed

1822
01:56:45,840 --> 01:56:51,120
himself with an AR 15 style semi
automatic rifle loaded with 30

1823
01:56:51,120 --> 01:56:55,800
rounds in the magazine. And
using that rifle, he shot and

1824
01:56:55,800 --> 01:57:02,340
killed Joseph Rosenbaum, an
unarmed man. The shot that

1825
01:57:02,340 --> 01:57:08,790
killed Mr. Rosenbaum was a shot
to the back. occurred after the

1826
01:57:08,790 --> 01:57:13,920
defendant chased down Mr.
Rosenbaum and confronted him

1827
01:57:15,060 --> 01:57:20,970
while wielding that ar 15. The
evidence will show that the

1828
01:57:20,970 --> 01:57:26,160
defendant fled the scene of the
dead body of Joseph Rosenbaum

1829
01:57:26,220 --> 01:57:28,710
without stopping to offer any
aid whatsoever.

1830
01:57:29,430 --> 01:57:32,430
Yeah, well, some factually
incorrect things in there.

1831
01:57:32,850 --> 01:57:34,680
You could put them out and then
we can keep moving. I

1832
01:57:35,489 --> 01:57:38,519
shot him in the back and was
chasing troops I shot him in the

1833
01:57:38,519 --> 01:57:41,039
back and was chasing him both
not true.

1834
01:57:41,609 --> 01:57:43,619
And then he came back to the
body and made a phone call. I

1835
01:57:43,619 --> 01:57:46,829
don't know if he was render aid
but he he made a phone call. I

1836
01:57:46,829 --> 01:57:49,919
don't know who was calling to
but but he didn't make sense. He

1837
01:57:49,919 --> 01:57:53,969
shot him and ran off. But we can
go ahead and move on to number

1838
01:57:53,969 --> 01:57:57,629
two now. Now the defense
attorney tried to combat that my

1839
01:57:57,689 --> 01:58:01,439
alleging that cow didn't chase
anyone but he was the one being

1840
01:58:01,439 --> 01:58:05,159
chased. And he acted in self
defense makes no

1841
01:58:05,160 --> 01:58:10,500
sense. What the state says about
him hunting or chasing him down.

1842
01:58:11,940 --> 01:58:15,210
He's trying to get away from the
individual. You'll hear

1843
01:58:15,210 --> 01:58:21,300
testimony, not just from Kyle
Rittenhouse. But Baulch Mr.

1844
01:58:21,300 --> 01:58:28,560
Baulch. about Joseph Rosenbaum
stating to Kyle and to Ryan

1845
01:58:28,560 --> 01:58:32,670
Baulch in each other's presence.
If I get either of you to alone,

1846
01:58:32,940 --> 01:58:42,420
I'm going to kill you. Flat out
threats to murder. When Mr.

1847
01:58:42,420 --> 01:58:47,820
Rosen bomb is shot in the car
source LaGG. Three there's been

1848
01:58:47,820 --> 01:58:52,920
a gunshot behind Kyle. He turns
to address Mr. Rosenbaum of his

1849
01:58:52,920 --> 01:58:59,730
firearm. Mr. Rosen balm is not
deterred. He continues to right.

1850
01:59:00,359 --> 01:59:03,989
Now remember, arguments are not
evidence. So the opening

1851
01:59:03,989 --> 01:59:06,329
statements, you know, you can
bolster a little bit you can be

1852
01:59:06,329 --> 01:59:10,229
a little flamboyant. But it's
really going to come down to the

1853
01:59:10,229 --> 01:59:10,709
witness.

1854
01:59:11,279 --> 01:59:14,339
Yeah, presenting in a completely
different light,

1855
01:59:14,939 --> 01:59:17,759
different sets, we got to tell
different stories. And it's

1856
01:59:17,759 --> 01:59:23,129
amazing that they're displaying
the same the way they the way it

1857
01:59:23,129 --> 01:59:27,659
was broken now. So now we get to
get into the witnesses. So the

1858
01:59:27,659 --> 01:59:30,299
only thing I could put had to
pull with the prosecution

1859
01:59:30,299 --> 01:59:34,649
witnesses. Not bad it was it was
great. So let's go ahead and get

1860
01:59:34,649 --> 01:59:38,039
into the first witness for the
prosecution. Now, obviously,

1861
01:59:38,039 --> 01:59:41,099
since the state is the one
alleging that Kyle did something

1862
01:59:41,099 --> 01:59:44,909
bad they have to put on a case
in chief and prove their

1863
01:59:44,909 --> 01:59:49,919
allegations. So now we turn to
the state's witnesses. Now since

1864
01:59:49,919 --> 01:59:54,269
this is a summary. Let me just
tell it to you stone cold. The

1865
01:59:54,269 --> 01:59:58,559
state's witnesses have testified
to these following things. One

1866
01:59:58,589 --> 02:00:02,789
that the alleged victim Joseph
rose bomb chased em lunch at cow

1867
02:00:02,789 --> 02:00:03,629
to grab his gun.

1868
02:00:04,230 --> 02:00:09,900
Well, I was behind Mr. Rosenbaum
and Mr. Rittenhouse was on the

1869
02:00:09,900 --> 02:00:16,260
other side of me in Rosemont.
And so they it was clear that

1870
02:00:16,260 --> 02:00:20,610
they, as he lunged forward, they
they almost made contact. It

1871
02:00:20,610 --> 02:00:21,450
wasn't clear if they did.

1872
02:00:22,019 --> 02:00:26,009
And your perception was that
evening, if you watched it, he

1873
02:00:26,009 --> 02:00:27,719
was going for the barrel of the
gun.

1874
02:00:28,469 --> 02:00:33,149
Correct. I think it was very
clear to me that he was reaching

1875
02:00:33,149 --> 02:00:40,229
specifically for the weapon and
because that's where his hands

1876
02:00:40,229 --> 02:00:40,499
went.

1877
02:00:40,920 --> 02:00:44,160
This SAP probably thought he was
helping by saying that.

1878
02:00:45,540 --> 02:00:48,990
Well, I think no, you can say
what you want to but when you

1879
02:00:48,990 --> 02:00:52,770
face the perjury. See, that's
what that's the beautiful thing

1880
02:00:52,770 --> 02:00:56,460
about perjury. You can say what
you want to but when you face a

1881
02:00:56,460 --> 02:01:01,650
time when you lie. Oops, say
like, Hey, these, these dead

1882
02:01:01,650 --> 02:01:06,060
dude ain't worth it. I'll go
ahead and give up the goods. And

1883
02:01:06,060 --> 02:01:09,570
that's kind of how like the
power. That's the power and you

1884
02:01:09,570 --> 02:01:12,630
know, of jail time, the good,
the good part of our justice

1885
02:01:12,630 --> 02:01:15,480
system. I think that you know,
you just can't get up there and

1886
02:01:15,480 --> 02:01:19,320
say what you want to say without
consequences. Because there's

1887
02:01:19,320 --> 02:01:23,370
been a lot of false accusations
made in the media. But this is

1888
02:01:23,370 --> 02:01:25,500
why the trial was important to
wait for

1889
02:01:25,560 --> 02:01:29,220
good point. We're so used to
people lying that you kind of

1890
02:01:29,220 --> 02:01:31,590
forget that it's a big deal if
you lie under oath.

1891
02:01:32,010 --> 02:01:34,440
That's that's the beautiful
thing about it. If especially if

1892
02:01:34,440 --> 02:01:38,580
it can be proven. It could be
years in jail. Yeah. So I think

1893
02:01:38,580 --> 02:01:41,070
we stopped the two let's go and
get into three, two,

1894
02:01:41,399 --> 02:01:45,329
that the alleged victim Joseph
Rosenbaum, me death threats

1895
02:01:45,659 --> 02:01:50,549
to cow you and my client were
present when Mr. Rosen bomb

1896
02:01:51,149 --> 02:01:54,509
threatened you and Kyle.
Correct. Correct. And he

1897
02:01:54,509 --> 02:01:57,899
specifically said if he got
either of you alone, he would

1898
02:01:57,899 --> 02:01:58,919
expletive kill you.

1899
02:01:59,250 --> 02:02:00,030
That's correct.

1900
02:02:00,480 --> 02:02:04,530
Any doubt about that? No doubt
about that. The FBI that? Yes.

1901
02:02:04,830 --> 02:02:10,650
And that was right after I'm
gonna get his name wrong. Justin

1902
02:02:10,740 --> 02:02:12,690
had put out dumpster fire.

1903
02:02:12,779 --> 02:02:15,689
Correct. It was about 20 to 30
minutes before we headed south

1904
02:02:15,689 --> 02:02:19,379
and the shooting started. Now
this testimony was so damning,

1905
02:02:19,589 --> 02:02:22,259
and so damaging to the
prosecution's case, that the

1906
02:02:22,259 --> 02:02:25,859
prosecutor started challenging
their own witness's credibility.

1907
02:02:29,729 --> 02:02:30,179
These,

1908
02:02:30,300 --> 02:02:33,780
these goombazz think that
everybody is all in on this, I

1909
02:02:33,780 --> 02:02:36,960
think that your analysis is
perfect, like, Hey, I'm not

1910
02:02:36,960 --> 02:02:40,350
gonna, I'm not gonna give up
this screw these guys.

1911
02:02:40,560 --> 02:02:47,550
I think the prosecutor had to go
through this trial. And it's

1912
02:02:47,550 --> 02:02:51,240
like, what do you want me to do?
I mean, I had a bunch of people

1913
02:02:51,240 --> 02:02:53,490
that don't want to really
testify the things that are not

1914
02:02:53,490 --> 02:02:58,590
true. We could play games with
the cameras, and they know the

1915
02:02:58,950 --> 02:03:02,670
right in the video. And what I
find disgusting in this whole

1916
02:03:02,670 --> 02:03:07,590
thing. Is the FBI. Were flying
drones over this whole

1917
02:03:07,590 --> 02:03:08,340
situation.

1918
02:03:10,859 --> 02:03:14,309
Yep. And nothing came out and
nothing was.

1919
02:03:16,290 --> 02:03:20,010
What was playing? What games?
Are we really playing here?

1920
02:03:20,070 --> 02:03:22,650
Well, maybe they were, maybe
they had the eye in the sky to

1921
02:03:22,650 --> 02:03:23,730
give instructions.

1922
02:03:24,630 --> 02:03:29,280
It could be that and this is
very reminiscent of the same way

1923
02:03:29,280 --> 02:03:33,990
they were monitoring the riots
in Baltimore, via drone. See, I

1924
02:03:33,990 --> 02:03:38,130
told you, we had a beta test,
they write everything out over

1925
02:03:38,130 --> 02:03:40,410
it like, Okay, we're gonna run.
We're running in Baltimore, see

1926
02:03:40,410 --> 02:03:45,420
how it goes. And if it works,
we'll become operational. And

1927
02:03:45,450 --> 02:03:49,440
this is the kind of thing that
I'm seeing is the good people in

1928
02:03:49,440 --> 02:03:52,320
the FBI. I'm telling you, you're
going to start speaking up

1929
02:03:52,320 --> 02:03:55,620
because the people are getting,
and when I say to people, I

1930
02:03:55,620 --> 02:04:00,240
mean, we always been skeptical
of the phase. But it's like

1931
02:04:00,270 --> 02:04:00,690
people

1932
02:04:00,749 --> 02:04:05,069
making jokes about the FBI that
way now on television openly.

1933
02:04:05,069 --> 02:04:05,819
Sometimes.

1934
02:04:05,849 --> 02:04:10,559
That's my point is like, we're
losing everybody. What's your

1935
02:04:10,559 --> 02:04:11,009
purpose?

1936
02:04:11,220 --> 02:04:15,210
is respect. And then yeah, no
one cares. Yeah. So

1937
02:04:15,240 --> 02:04:18,870
I think I thought that I think
that was four or five. Yeah,

1938
02:04:18,900 --> 02:04:21,420
yeah, that's going getting five
now. Here's Mr. McGinnis. An

1939
02:04:21,450 --> 02:04:23,310
eyewitness to the shooting. You
don't

1940
02:04:23,310 --> 02:04:27,570
know. As you sit here today?
What Mr. Rosenbaum was thinking,

1941
02:04:27,690 --> 02:04:31,260
do you mean at the time of the
shooting?

1942
02:04:31,290 --> 02:04:34,740
Yes. Or at any point in his
life? I mean, you have no idea

1943
02:04:35,400 --> 02:04:37,530
what Mr. Rosenbaum was ever
thinking at any point in his

1944
02:04:37,530 --> 02:04:40,500
life. You have never been inside
his head. You've never met him

1945
02:04:40,500 --> 02:04:41,550
before. You don't

1946
02:04:41,550 --> 02:04:44,610
I've never even I've never
exchanged words with him. So

1947
02:04:44,610 --> 02:04:46,080
your question is, so

1948
02:04:46,080 --> 02:04:49,470
your interpretation of what he
was trying to do or what he was

1949
02:04:49,470 --> 02:04:52,710
intending to do or anything
along those lines is complete.

1950
02:04:52,950 --> 02:04:54,270
guesswork, isn't it?

1951
02:04:55,410 --> 02:05:02,730
Well, he said fuck you and then
he reached for the weapon. Nice

1952
02:05:02,730 --> 02:05:03,450
editing mo

1953
02:05:03,479 --> 02:05:05,519
well done. That wasn't me. That
was me. I gotta get.

1954
02:05:07,439 --> 02:05:08,879
Okay. No, that was

1955
02:05:09,149 --> 02:05:12,359
that was case closed right
there. I mean, that was the end

1956
02:05:12,359 --> 02:05:16,919
of it and remind people, this is
the prosecutors prosecution or

1957
02:05:16,919 --> 02:05:21,389
witnesses? Yeah. These are their
witnesses, that the defense

1958
02:05:21,389 --> 02:05:22,559
really didn't have to do
anything that

1959
02:05:22,949 --> 02:05:25,079
MSNBC was off at this point.

1960
02:05:26,220 --> 02:05:30,450
Yes, of course. Yeah. No, no,
you can't hear this. We need to,

1961
02:05:30,510 --> 02:05:32,370
um, you know,

1962
02:05:33,060 --> 02:05:34,050
we need to call on us.

1963
02:05:35,069 --> 02:05:40,199
Yeah, we need to highlight the
only good thing. So where are we

1964
02:05:40,199 --> 02:05:41,909
at? So we started with six.

1965
02:05:41,970 --> 02:05:45,060
Yeah, that no, this is this is
six is now.

1966
02:05:45,600 --> 02:05:48,690
Okay, it's going to six. Now
when the prosecution witnesses

1967
02:05:48,810 --> 02:05:52,170
kind of don't really help your
case. The prosecutor then tried

1968
02:05:52,170 --> 02:05:56,220
to bring in some forensic people
to disprove the fact that people

1969
02:05:56,220 --> 02:06:00,960
were reaching for cause gun. For
instance, Mr. Huber, who also

1970
02:06:00,960 --> 02:06:04,560
was killed by car and house
allegedly hit cow with a

1971
02:06:04,560 --> 02:06:07,950
skateboard and tried to grab the
gun. But the prosecutor tried to

1972
02:06:07,950 --> 02:06:11,250
put doubt in the minds of the
joy that Mr. Huber actually

1973
02:06:11,400 --> 02:06:15,360
grabbed the gun by saying that
there was no DNA found on the

1974
02:06:15,360 --> 02:06:19,260
gun or none of Mr. Huber's DNA
found on the gun. But that was

1975
02:06:19,320 --> 02:06:24,180
easily overcome, because there
are pictures of Cuber trying to

1976
02:06:24,180 --> 02:06:27,840
grab the gun. And the witness
said, just because there's no

1977
02:06:27,840 --> 02:06:30,030
DNA doesn't mean you didn't grab
the gun.

1978
02:06:30,209 --> 02:06:36,479
And so the fact that I don't
know where that is on the gun,

1979
02:06:36,479 --> 02:06:41,399
but the fact that the DNA isn't
there, and everybody thinks DNA

1980
02:06:41,399 --> 02:06:46,799
is this thing that proves
everything, you'd agree that we

1981
02:06:46,799 --> 02:06:48,839
can see he's actually touching
the firearm.

1982
02:06:50,880 --> 02:06:52,980
What is your question? Well, the
fact that

1983
02:06:52,980 --> 02:06:57,210
is not present. It I don't know
where on the gun that is. But

1984
02:06:57,210 --> 02:07:00,480
the fact that DNA is not present
in any of the areas of the

1985
02:07:00,480 --> 02:07:04,050
firearm for Mr. Huber, doesn't
mean that he didn't actually

1986
02:07:04,050 --> 02:07:04,350
touch

1987
02:07:04,620 --> 02:07:07,710
Correct. Whether DNA was
detected from an individual or

1988
02:07:07,710 --> 02:07:11,340
not, does not mean that they did
not touch that item. Yeah, this

1989
02:07:11,340 --> 02:07:14,580
was a this is an oldie but
goodie, they tried to do that

1990
02:07:14,580 --> 02:07:19,050
because everyone in the world
knows. DNA solves crime.

1991
02:07:19,350 --> 02:07:27,330
Maddie and Dana and Medea was a
has been locking people up

1992
02:07:27,360 --> 02:07:30,570
forever. And that and that's one
of the things that they throw

1993
02:07:30,570 --> 02:07:35,310
out that all DNA being a prude
is DNA prove that and I've

1994
02:07:35,310 --> 02:07:37,950
always been skeptical of DNA.

1995
02:07:38,040 --> 02:07:40,530
But you know, the way you know
this segment of DNA and

1996
02:07:40,530 --> 02:07:44,640
everyone's mind don't you?
Paternity Test Jerry Springer

1997
02:07:44,700 --> 02:07:47,850
you better believe it brother.
Yeah. So they cemented that it's

1998
02:07:47,850 --> 02:07:51,420
like that's just real because
people fight when when they use

1999
02:07:51,420 --> 02:07:52,050
DNA.

2000
02:07:52,680 --> 02:07:56,970
And this is the cornerstone of
the Family Court in their power.

2001
02:07:57,780 --> 02:07:59,070
You see how it's all coming from

2002
02:08:01,140 --> 02:08:04,710
the Queen do I graduate from
this college course mode? Do I

2003
02:08:04,710 --> 02:08:06,630
ever graduate? I guess not.

2004
02:08:07,140 --> 02:08:10,350
I don't want I don't want to
graduate course hours man. Yeah,

2005
02:08:10,350 --> 02:08:10,680
I

2006
02:08:10,680 --> 02:08:13,560
want to work study I want to
keep going. But no,

2007
02:08:13,590 --> 02:08:18,480
that's that's science. Basically
this is when science took over

2008
02:08:18,480 --> 02:08:24,090
the judicial system. Uh oh, we
got DNA. We got DNA. We've found

2009
02:08:24,090 --> 02:08:26,610
DNA you know, there's not a race
somebody or find them guilty.

2010
02:08:26,610 --> 02:08:28,860
What did it be a next day? Yeah.
And it's like, how did you

2011
02:08:28,860 --> 02:08:31,290
collect it, how it was stored.
And we've heard the horror

2012
02:08:31,290 --> 02:08:36,900
stories of these labs and you
know, they got they got eaten in

2013
02:08:36,900 --> 02:08:41,610
the lab and all kinds of stuff
going on and people live hand

2014
02:08:41,610 --> 02:08:45,420
job. That's why the justice
system has been thoroughly

2015
02:08:45,420 --> 02:08:50,520
exposed. And for nothing else, I
take joy in it because it's not

2016
02:08:50,520 --> 02:08:54,450
justice. You know, the same
thing. Two things can be true.

2017
02:08:54,900 --> 02:08:57,720
Cow Rittenhouse killed me
steaming cow Rittenhouse could

2018
02:08:57,720 --> 02:09:00,390
have went down there with the
the illest intentions. Let's

2019
02:09:00,390 --> 02:09:03,210
just say he was this that he got
his cars and I'm going to take

2020
02:09:03,210 --> 02:09:07,950
me some people out and we're not
going to take it anymore. Until

2021
02:09:07,950 --> 02:09:12,060
he that's a thought crime until
he actually does something

2022
02:09:12,900 --> 02:09:16,560
that's a crime. You can't be
found anything guilty. Correct.

2023
02:09:16,560 --> 02:09:19,320
And I know people may get
frustrated with me by saying

2024
02:09:19,320 --> 02:09:23,400
that, but I kept the same energy
when but with Bill Cosby. Now he

2025
02:09:23,400 --> 02:09:26,130
said two things could be true
about Bill Cosby. He could have

2026
02:09:26,130 --> 02:09:30,660
been actually guilty of all the
things he'd been accused of. But

2027
02:09:30,660 --> 02:09:34,650
if you can't get a good clean
conviction, I'm not can't stand

2028
02:09:34,650 --> 02:09:38,430
with it. I you know, this is one
of the thing and this is the

2029
02:09:38,490 --> 02:09:45,570
only fair way you're saying we
can have equality is through the

2030
02:09:45,600 --> 02:09:48,210
legal system. I mean, if you
hear what people say We want

2031
02:09:48,210 --> 02:09:51,750
justice, we want justice. But
this is not justice. Dig This is

2032
02:09:51,780 --> 02:09:55,290
equity, and not equality and
justice. The quickest

2033
02:09:55,290 --> 02:09:59,850
explanation is that they want
the same outcomes, though so

2034
02:09:59,850 --> 02:10:03,990
it's Like equal outcomes to So,
ah, cow looks like he's guilty.

2035
02:10:03,990 --> 02:10:07,140
So you need to be guilty. Now we
got to go through what the what

2036
02:10:07,140 --> 02:10:07,920
the laws are?

2037
02:10:08,399 --> 02:10:12,659
Well, this is a country built on
the rule of law, and we have to

2038
02:10:12,659 --> 02:10:17,159
get back to it. And many people
talk about a two tier justice

2039
02:10:17,159 --> 02:10:22,169
system. And I agree with that.
Now, because it's people with a

2040
02:10:22,169 --> 02:10:25,109
lot of money and people with no
money. That's it that's has

2041
02:10:25,439 --> 02:10:28,169
nothing to do with race or
anything. I've had it myself,

2042
02:10:28,199 --> 02:10:30,899
you know, there's been IRS
scrutiny, you know, and they

2043
02:10:30,899 --> 02:10:36,029
literally said, Look, if you had
$150,000, you, you could take us

2044
02:10:36,029 --> 02:10:39,059
to court, you'd win easily. And
you wouldn't have to pay the

2045
02:10:39,059 --> 02:10:45,569
75,000. I'm not kidding. And you
know, what, if I had the, if I

2046
02:10:45,569 --> 02:10:49,319
had the money to spend, I would
have done it, just to say if you

2047
02:10:49,319 --> 02:10:52,379
IRS, even though it would have
cost me twice as much.

2048
02:10:53,399 --> 02:10:59,039
But just imagine that if you had
but this word plays out on the

2049
02:10:59,129 --> 02:11:03,269
lower level. If you had the
money, you wouldn't have these

2050
02:11:03,269 --> 02:11:06,509
troubles? Oh, yes. Like I
committed the crime because I

2051
02:11:06,509 --> 02:11:11,579
don't have any money. You know?
So I got like, not enough

2052
02:11:11,579 --> 02:11:16,049
nonviolent drug dealing, we
those kinds of things. It's

2053
02:11:16,049 --> 02:11:18,899
like, well, if I had the money,
then I wouldn't be out here

2054
02:11:18,899 --> 02:11:20,099
selling weed, right?

2055
02:11:20,130 --> 02:11:23,850
Ah, no, I understand the cycle.
This problem,

2056
02:11:23,940 --> 02:11:27,600
but it's just amazing to hear on
a big money level of you know,

2057
02:11:27,600 --> 02:11:32,220
saying 75,000 $150,000 Like, you
realize I don't have the money

2058
02:11:32,220 --> 02:11:34,680
artists would have paid the
taxes. Right? You get that

2059
02:11:34,680 --> 02:11:35,070
point?

2060
02:11:35,430 --> 02:11:38,250
Well, in this case, it was a
dispute. I think they were

2061
02:11:38,250 --> 02:11:42,240
wrong. And they were wrong. And
it was a mean, and they admitted

2062
02:11:42,240 --> 02:11:45,810
as much. But you did you take it
to trial. I'm just killed. No,

2063
02:11:45,810 --> 02:11:48,270
no, I know. I can't afford to do
that.

2064
02:11:49,649 --> 02:11:52,649
I'm not get it to you. But this
is the thing where we talk about

2065
02:11:52,649 --> 02:11:56,369
the conviction rate of how many
trials how many things actually

2066
02:11:56,369 --> 02:12:00,029
go to trial. This legal system
is built off of people playing

2067
02:12:00,029 --> 02:12:04,979
out. Yeah, you know, of, Oh,
scary numbers. Whoo, he's 20

2068
02:12:04,979 --> 02:12:08,189
years. They say you did it, even
if you didn't get us and it all

2069
02:12:08,189 --> 02:12:11,519
go away. That's what they told
you even pay it if even though

2070
02:12:11,519 --> 02:12:15,029
you don't owe it, it'll all go
away. And exactly what this is

2071
02:12:15,089 --> 02:12:18,299
this, this is what's being this
is what's being exposed right

2072
02:12:18,299 --> 02:12:22,469
now. And I'm all for it. Um, so
I think we stopped at six. Let's

2073
02:12:22,469 --> 02:12:25,979
go ahead and get into seven.
Now. I don't want to understate

2074
02:12:25,979 --> 02:12:29,579
this fact about the first week
of trial. Every witness has made

2075
02:12:29,579 --> 02:12:33,779
it very clear that the first
victim Rosenbach was starting

2076
02:12:33,779 --> 02:12:37,799
fires was challenging on people
and saying things like, shoot

2077
02:12:37,859 --> 02:12:53,549
me. And even threatens cow's
life

2078
02:12:53,610 --> 02:12:58,860
when Mr. Rosen bomb threatened
you and Kyle. Correct. Correct.

2079
02:12:59,100 --> 02:13:02,490
And he specifically said if he
got either of you alone, he

2080
02:13:02,490 --> 02:13:03,870
would expletive kill you.

2081
02:13:04,170 --> 02:13:04,950
That's correct.

2082
02:13:05,430 --> 02:13:09,450
Any doubt about that? No doubt
about the FBI that Yes.

2083
02:13:09,840 --> 02:13:12,180
And again, I want to make it
very clear Bs are the

2084
02:13:12,180 --> 02:13:13,800
prosecution's witnesses.

2085
02:13:14,399 --> 02:13:16,679
Yeah, told me told the FBI that

2086
02:13:17,670 --> 02:13:24,480
how can you make a case for him
being found guilty if the

2087
02:13:24,480 --> 02:13:27,990
prosecution witnesses that they
chose us let date and put on the

2088
02:13:27,990 --> 02:13:32,490
stand are telling this story? I
don't. And this goes to your

2089
02:13:32,520 --> 02:13:38,070
claim about mass formation. You
had to be a mass formation to

2090
02:13:38,070 --> 02:13:41,400
buy this in the Jayco Blake
situation and that

2091
02:13:41,430 --> 02:13:48,390
well, okay, so we saw what they
did during the trial we saw

2092
02:13:48,420 --> 02:13:51,180
certainly what they did and we
heard what they said after the

2093
02:13:51,180 --> 02:13:56,430
trial would they I mean, M five
M, but specifically MSNBC and

2094
02:13:56,430 --> 02:14:05,070
CNN. And in mass formation from
what I understand from Muttiah

2095
02:14:05,070 --> 02:14:09,690
Professor De Smet who, who
taught us this it's actually the

2096
02:14:09,690 --> 02:14:15,150
more absurd the better. So the
more absurd things you ask

2097
02:14:15,150 --> 02:14:20,700
people to do in maths formation
ie tell people that you know,

2098
02:14:20,730 --> 02:14:24,930
this is exactly the opposite and
that this is totally racial and

2099
02:14:24,930 --> 02:14:29,700
etc, etc. That it just They're
going along with it they cannot

2100
02:14:29,700 --> 02:14:34,440
help themselves. But then you
get like the Anna from from

2101
02:14:34,440 --> 02:14:39,240
Young Turks. She was breakable.
She broke out of the mass

2102
02:14:39,240 --> 02:14:42,240
formation I got my eye on her
she's very interesting not let's

2103
02:14:42,240 --> 02:14:45,420
see what happens because she all
of a sudden, and she because she

2104
02:14:45,420 --> 02:14:47,700
didn't just break through said
you got to question your

2105
02:14:47,700 --> 02:14:49,980
sources. No kidding.

2106
02:14:52,710 --> 02:14:58,500
And I'll say um, yeah. I think
you can break through it, but

2107
02:14:58,500 --> 02:15:01,740
you just have to keep hammering
Weighing hammer away. And that's

2108
02:15:01,740 --> 02:15:04,890
why I did this show and the way
I'm doing it, that a lot of

2109
02:15:04,890 --> 02:15:07,800
people have not heard these
facts. Normally I don't get in

2110
02:15:07,800 --> 02:15:11,610
the weeds on the blow by blow,
and I didn't get into them here

2111
02:15:11,610 --> 02:15:14,880
as well, you know, breaking down
all this with the skateboard or

2112
02:15:14,880 --> 02:15:19,620
whatnot, as I want you to hear
the prosecution's witnesses. Say

2113
02:15:19,620 --> 02:15:23,160
what happened? If you hear that
and walk away from this seeing

2114
02:15:23,160 --> 02:15:27,450
it any kind of other way, as far
as what happened legally? I

2115
02:15:27,450 --> 02:15:30,330
don't know. I mean, I had to
pray for you to break out of the

2116
02:15:30,330 --> 02:15:31,980
mass formation, I mean, because

2117
02:15:32,040 --> 02:15:36,090
well, the 30 Strong going to 30%
that are in mass formation

2118
02:15:36,120 --> 02:15:38,970
cannot get into it will not get
them out. You can't convince

2119
02:15:38,970 --> 02:15:43,560
them the 40% that just go along
with it. Yes. And I think that

2120
02:15:43,560 --> 02:15:47,880
this this show, in particular is
great material for someone to

2121
02:15:47,880 --> 02:15:51,870
help other people who, who they
know are just kind of going

2122
02:15:51,870 --> 02:15:53,880
along with it. And because
that's really the breakdown,

2123
02:15:53,880 --> 02:15:56,940
according to the professor 30%
Completely hypnotized can't

2124
02:15:56,940 --> 02:16:00,510
change their mind, forget about
it not worth it. 40% go along

2125
02:16:00,510 --> 02:16:07,320
with the program. 30% That's us.
Okay, and so so the 30% can use

2126
02:16:07,320 --> 02:16:11,730
that on the 40% Because then all
sudden you have 70% then doesn't

2127
02:16:11,730 --> 02:16:12,180
matter.

2128
02:16:12,750 --> 02:16:15,690
And we just keep chipping away
at it. And the way to do that is

2129
02:16:15,720 --> 02:16:19,770
and I'll say this using good
information, because I think bad

2130
02:16:19,800 --> 02:16:22,170
information and you run it
you've ran into this a couple of

2131
02:16:22,170 --> 02:16:28,290
times can't tell the derailed,
you know, a no trying to help

2132
02:16:28,290 --> 02:16:32,160
somebody because once they find
anything they revert back to

2133
02:16:32,160 --> 02:16:34,980
automation, they're going to go
running back to the off out one

2134
02:16:34,980 --> 02:16:38,670
little flaw. And this is how in
fact checkers work. Because I

2135
02:16:38,670 --> 02:16:41,430
when I looked at the fact
checkers for this thing, and

2136
02:16:41,640 --> 02:16:45,780
victims, Mitch, give me the
people that were shot. It was

2137
02:16:45,780 --> 02:16:49,980
like oh, yeah, they were
pedophiles, but kinda like that.

2138
02:16:49,980 --> 02:16:51,630
pedophiles. Yeah, it was like

2139
02:16:53,640 --> 02:16:55,650
minor attracted persons.

2140
02:16:56,220 --> 02:16:58,050
Oh, don't you gotta get me on a
whole nother.

2141
02:17:02,640 --> 02:17:05,940
trigger for me. Yeah. Hard
trigger for my hair. Move on.

2142
02:17:06,300 --> 02:17:09,960
Yeah, so number eight. Now,
let's talk about the defense.

2143
02:17:10,260 --> 02:17:13,740
The defense seems to just be
watching the trial like we all

2144
02:17:13,740 --> 02:17:16,560
are, they're not objecting to
really anything. They're just

2145
02:17:16,560 --> 02:17:19,650
letting everything kind of go
fast and loose because they got

2146
02:17:19,650 --> 02:17:23,130
a simple self defense claim
here. Now, you'll see most of us

2147
02:17:23,130 --> 02:17:25,800
attorneys are a little
frustrated that the defense is

2148
02:17:25,800 --> 02:17:28,500
kind of just letting everything
go rough shot, but that's okay,

2149
02:17:28,500 --> 02:17:31,440
because they still, I believe,
have a winning case. Now

2150
02:17:31,440 --> 02:17:34,020
remember, at the beginning of
this video, when I showed you

2151
02:17:34,020 --> 02:17:37,410
the prosecutor saying that cow
chase down Wilson bomb, and then

2152
02:17:37,410 --> 02:17:40,200
shot him kind of like
indiscriminately? Well, it's

2153
02:17:40,230 --> 02:17:43,440
interesting that all of their
witnesses, all the prosecution's

2154
02:17:43,440 --> 02:17:47,370
witnesses have rebooted the
prosecutors opening statement.

2155
02:17:47,730 --> 02:17:50,430
So at this point in time, I
don't know where this trial was

2156
02:17:50,430 --> 02:17:54,060
going to go from here. When you
have all your witnesses saying

2157
02:17:54,060 --> 02:17:58,560
that the kid acted in self
defense, why are we here? Why

2158
02:17:58,560 --> 02:18:00,780
are we here? This doesn't seem
like a murder trial.

2159
02:18:01,230 --> 02:18:04,380
Yeah, there's your question. Why
are we here?

2160
02:18:05,490 --> 02:18:10,890
I'm gonna get to that. But what
we have to do first is provide

2161
02:18:10,890 --> 02:18:15,030
some perspective for the people
with the 40% that may not get it

2162
02:18:15,030 --> 02:18:19,020
now, but may get it eventually.
But you have to seek first to

2163
02:18:19,020 --> 02:18:22,500
understand and be understood.
I'm going to get to that. But I

2164
02:18:22,500 --> 02:18:25,620
need to make this one quick
point. The defense did do

2165
02:18:25,620 --> 02:18:29,430
something in this case, they
tell a cow get up on that stand

2166
02:18:29,430 --> 02:18:33,660
and give it up. Give up the
goods cry like nobody's

2167
02:18:33,660 --> 02:18:37,290
business. Now, I'm not saying it
wasn't genuine, but they

2168
02:18:37,290 --> 02:18:39,810
probably don't know to hold it
back. You get that feeling?

2169
02:18:40,410 --> 02:18:44,700
Because I think that's what did
it. Um, like you say, you can't

2170
02:18:44,850 --> 02:18:49,860
you can't put your baby. He put
he put that be crying Oh, just

2171
02:18:49,860 --> 02:18:56,520
say, Look, I'm just a kid, you
know, and he broke, he broke. He

2172
02:18:56,520 --> 02:19:03,210
broke he they broke him. Yeah.
To the point of and then. I

2173
02:19:03,210 --> 02:19:06,060
think that's that's what defense
told him because there's no

2174
02:19:06,060 --> 02:19:09,090
other reason for him to go on
that stand other than to cross

2175
02:19:09,150 --> 02:19:09,480
this

2176
02:19:09,480 --> 02:19:13,200
makes this makes sense to me,
because I knew there were two

2177
02:19:13,200 --> 02:19:18,660
prosecutors or two lawyers for
the defense. And I really didn't

2178
02:19:18,660 --> 02:19:21,450
like the goombah guy. And the
thing that I didn't like about

2179
02:19:21,450 --> 02:19:24,930
him is he would say stuff, like,
Come on people. You know, and I

2180
02:19:24,930 --> 02:19:27,810
heard that I'm like, does that
work on juries? He's like, come

2181
02:19:27,810 --> 02:19:31,290
on, people. I didn't like it. I
was like, I don't think I like

2182
02:19:31,290 --> 02:19:37,260
him. And this is exactly the
kind of guy that could. I think

2183
02:19:37,830 --> 02:19:40,530
we need to give him a lot more
credit because he probably teed

2184
02:19:40,860 --> 02:19:44,940
Kyle up. No one told Kyle to do
that because you can't what he

2185
02:19:44,970 --> 02:19:48,510
that was real emotion. But did
the goomba guy tee him up? I

2186
02:19:48,510 --> 02:19:50,310
totally believe that. Totally.

2187
02:19:50,790 --> 02:19:53,880
What I'm saying is they said
don't hold it back. Yeah, I

2188
02:19:53,880 --> 02:19:58,530
think that gave him the same
speech they give a Don Don Lemon

2189
02:19:58,530 --> 02:20:03,600
and Van Jones If you feel it
coming back and just go with the

2190
02:20:03,750 --> 02:20:04,860
go with the feeling well

2191
02:20:04,860 --> 02:20:06,480
hell yeah of course it's

2192
02:20:07,200 --> 02:20:11,310
the same point and like I said
when you face in life in jail it

2193
02:20:11,310 --> 02:20:13,890
don't take you much to cry so
I'm not saying it was

2194
02:20:13,890 --> 02:20:17,850
disingenuous but now they teach
me the tedium of course no those

2195
02:20:17,850 --> 02:20:20,850
those tears with courtesy and he
was

2196
02:20:20,850 --> 02:20:24,900
soon it was super triggering it
was if you're if you're going to

2197
02:20:24,900 --> 02:20:30,360
do a an OP anyway, plus trigger
the heck out of people and that

2198
02:20:30,360 --> 02:20:34,680
and that and that it worked on
all sides. If you were pro Kyle,

2199
02:20:34,680 --> 02:20:38,430
you've oh my god the poor kid.
If you hated Kyle, like I look

2200
02:20:38,430 --> 02:20:43,110
at this full of crap. I mean,
like, King James King James even

2201
02:20:43,110 --> 02:20:44,100
tweeted about it.

2202
02:20:45,630 --> 02:20:51,210
Yeah, so I mean, that's that's
what I think defense D is like a

2203
02:20:51,210 --> 02:20:54,600
you're gonna get you bought
there and don't hold back. Now

2204
02:20:54,600 --> 02:20:57,090
just let me cuz I'm sure he's
been crying the whole time.

2205
02:20:57,090 --> 02:21:00,900
Sure. I mean, I would probably
be crying behind closed doors in

2206
02:21:00,900 --> 02:21:04,560
life. He was at you you had this
morning to be like, I'm facing

2207
02:21:04,560 --> 02:21:07,380
life in prison. Yeah, like I'm
not gonna get Kingsmill

2208
02:21:07,920 --> 02:21:10,170
jail for three months. Yeah,
right.

2209
02:21:11,790 --> 02:21:16,080
So but now I'm gonna provide
perspective. Because people may

2210
02:21:16,080 --> 02:21:20,190
be saying, well, how did this
kid get off when we see so many

2211
02:21:20,190 --> 02:21:25,140
other cases of bullcrap, you
know, charges in the legal

2212
02:21:25,140 --> 02:21:29,310
system, screwing young kids
over? One case being this team

2213
02:21:29,310 --> 02:21:31,830
that was thrown and violent New
York prisons.

2214
02:21:31,980 --> 02:21:36,300
Now we have an eyewitness news
exclusive a travesty, a young

2215
02:21:36,300 --> 02:21:40,620
boy thrown in jail as a 16 year
old high school sophomore. Now

2216
02:21:40,620 --> 02:21:45,150
more than three years later,
this young man is free criminal

2217
02:21:45,150 --> 02:21:49,830
charges completely dropped. And
good evening again at 530. I'm

2218
02:21:49,830 --> 02:21:52,500
Diana Williams. And I'm showing
a better and why it is an

2219
02:21:52,530 --> 02:21:55,560
outrageous case of justice
derailed. How could it take

2220
02:21:55,560 --> 02:21:59,520
three years for prosecutors in
the Bronx da 's office to figure

2221
02:21:59,520 --> 02:22:02,790
out they didn't have a case
while a teenager sat in jail on

2222
02:22:02,790 --> 02:22:05,880
Rikers investigative reporter
Sarah Wallace Joining us now

2223
02:22:05,910 --> 02:22:08,460
with her exclusive story, Sarah.
Well,

2224
02:22:08,490 --> 02:22:11,850
Diana and Shadi the Bronx T 's
office is refusing to say

2225
02:22:11,850 --> 02:22:15,600
anything about this case, using
the excuse that Kalief Browder

2226
02:22:15,600 --> 02:22:19,680
has now filed a civil rights
lawsuit. He was a teenage kid

2227
02:22:19,680 --> 02:22:23,010
walking home from a party
literally snatched off the

2228
02:22:23,010 --> 02:22:27,390
street and charged with robbery.
It was a weak case from the very

2229
02:22:27,390 --> 02:22:27,960
beginning.

2230
02:22:28,589 --> 02:22:32,609
I spent three new years in it
three for my birthdays. I spent

2231
02:22:32,609 --> 02:22:33,629
a lot of holidays in it.

2232
02:22:33,900 --> 02:22:37,740
20 year old Kalief Browder maybe
physically free but mentally he

2233
02:22:37,740 --> 02:22:41,190
is still trapped behind bars on
Rikers where every day was a

2234
02:22:41,190 --> 02:22:42,360
battle to survive

2235
02:22:43,380 --> 02:22:48,300
very hard when you deal with
this dude this does wild toy and

2236
02:22:48,570 --> 02:22:52,290
they the big ones and they got
weapons and shakes it in their

2237
02:22:52,290 --> 02:22:55,050
gangs it you know if you don't
give you a phone call up or you

2238
02:22:55,050 --> 02:22:57,210
don't give him what he wants,
you know, they're gonna jump you

2239
02:22:57,210 --> 02:23:00,780
because he got about other 50
other gang members is very

2240
02:23:00,780 --> 02:23:01,230
scary.

2241
02:23:01,650 --> 02:23:04,500
This was what maybe 10 years ago
or something

2242
02:23:05,250 --> 02:23:12,510
it was 2016 I want to say okay,
it was 15 Somewhere around there

2243
02:23:12,540 --> 02:23:17,130
maybe or maybe off my date but
wow this gives perspective for

2244
02:23:17,130 --> 02:23:21,120
people to say how does this kid
get off what killing three

2245
02:23:21,120 --> 02:23:23,010
people we had to seek first
understand

2246
02:23:23,040 --> 02:23:27,060
and this kid didn't even get to
trial for three years. He get

2247
02:23:27,060 --> 02:23:32,490
to trial for three years on on a
stolen bookbag and this kid went

2248
02:23:32,490 --> 02:23:36,060
through hell in jail so I'm just
providing perspective now for

2249
02:23:36,060 --> 02:23:40,140
how people can see it through a
racial lens to say the court

2250
02:23:40,140 --> 02:23:41,760
system is awesome boy well

2251
02:23:41,790 --> 02:23:47,610
well but also let's be real
where was a referral?

2252
02:23:49,320 --> 02:23:53,310
Well, I'll say I think Jay Z in
them did some Oh they did my you

2253
02:23:53,310 --> 02:23:57,300
know after the fact but your
great point and that's the other

2254
02:23:57,300 --> 02:23:57,960
thing man

2255
02:23:58,080 --> 02:24:00,990
cuz you know why because there
was no racial angle there was

2256
02:24:00,990 --> 02:24:04,650
only there was there was only a
poverty angle and a kid angle

2257
02:24:04,710 --> 02:24:07,230
that's all right was no no
racial angle. So no one gave a

2258
02:24:07,230 --> 02:24:10,260
shit the media didn't care. The
Reverend didn't care. Nobody

2259
02:24:10,260 --> 02:24:12,390
cared this poor kid just rotting
away.

2260
02:24:12,870 --> 02:24:16,080
And that's what now you
understanding how people can get

2261
02:24:16,080 --> 02:24:18,750
to the point where they don't
care about cow. Because it's

2262
02:24:18,750 --> 02:24:22,560
like, nobody cared about him
Khalif so why should why should

2263
02:24:22,560 --> 02:24:25,560
we care about cow? You know? I
mean, he's sitting there for

2264
02:24:25,560 --> 02:24:28,140
three years waiting on trial,
why can't he see? I'm just

2265
02:24:28,140 --> 02:24:32,220
providing perspective for how
people can just be so hard and

2266
02:24:32,220 --> 02:24:36,120
with their viewpoint of how this
this didn't turn out the way

2267
02:24:36,120 --> 02:24:38,100
they wanted it to turn out
people also

2268
02:24:39,360 --> 02:24:46,110
have very poor historical
recollection. Yes. You know,

2269
02:24:46,320 --> 02:24:49,200
people really don't remember
stuff past two weeks ago. And

2270
02:24:49,200 --> 02:24:54,120
that's not that's not a crazy to
understand, because of the

2271
02:24:54,120 --> 02:24:57,300
amount of information we're
processing as human beings, to

2272
02:24:57,630 --> 02:25:00,600
taking on way more information
in our brains and meant to take

2273
02:25:00,600 --> 02:25:03,060
on. You think about man and
nature. But that's a whole

2274
02:25:03,060 --> 02:25:06,420
nother story for another day.
But let's get into the second

2275
02:25:06,420 --> 02:25:07,980
part of Kalif store

2276
02:25:08,250 --> 02:25:12,450
in May of 2010. He was a 16 year
old 10th grader walking home on

2277
02:25:12,450 --> 02:25:15,690
Arthur Avenue in the Bronx after
a party. The guy comes

2278
02:25:15,690 --> 02:25:17,820
out of nowhere says I robbed
them. And the next thing you

2279
02:25:17,820 --> 02:25:21,060
know they put the cost model
when notice do it then I do

2280
02:25:21,060 --> 02:25:24,180
three years, over three years
for something I didn't even do

2281
02:25:24,180 --> 02:25:24,300
it

2282
02:25:24,330 --> 02:25:27,780
routers family couldn't make the
$10,000 bail on the robbery

2283
02:25:27,780 --> 02:25:30,960
charges. And he had a legal aid
attorney router is now

2284
02:25:30,960 --> 02:25:32,220
represented by so

2285
02:25:32,220 --> 02:25:36,990
I got to stop. Okay. So this is
what I'm hearing now. Now it

2286
02:25:36,990 --> 02:25:44,280
starts to make sense. So if we
don't have a racial angle, then

2287
02:25:44,280 --> 02:25:49,770
we don't give a shit about the
case. The mainly Democrats who

2288
02:25:49,770 --> 02:25:54,450
are behind all of this racial
politicization, they feel so

2289
02:25:54,450 --> 02:26:00,060
guilty about these cases that
they'd say, Well, we've got to

2290
02:26:00,060 --> 02:26:02,490
do something for them to you
know, we're fixing everything by

2291
02:26:02,610 --> 02:26:06,960
using the race angle. But, you
know, if there's no racial angle

2292
02:26:07,080 --> 02:26:09,180
to we'll just make sure that
everyone gets out of jail and

2293
02:26:09,180 --> 02:26:11,730
you can you know, that you can
get amnesty. You never have to

2294
02:26:11,730 --> 02:26:16,530
go to jail. Steel up to $950
worth of stuff.

2295
02:26:17,610 --> 02:26:20,280
Is that a possibility? That's
yeah, that's why I'm on the

2296
02:26:20,280 --> 02:26:23,550
equity. They want out Yes,

2297
02:26:23,550 --> 02:26:26,220
yeah. outcry? Oh,

2298
02:26:28,350 --> 02:26:32,850
justice. Yeah, is it we want
people to be set free, black

2299
02:26:32,850 --> 02:26:35,400
guys go free all the time. We
want black guys go free all the

2300
02:26:35,400 --> 02:26:38,460
time. That kind of thing. I
gotcha. I gotcha. But what they

2301
02:26:38,460 --> 02:26:41,580
don't do is they don't
understand that these people are

2302
02:26:41,580 --> 02:26:44,610
just gonna go back to their
communities and victimize the

2303
02:26:44,610 --> 02:26:49,350
people again. And again, and
again and again. And again.

2304
02:26:49,380 --> 02:26:51,600
You're only gonna make your
neighbors worse. I'm gonna

2305
02:26:51,600 --> 02:26:52,050
restart the

2306
02:26:52,050 --> 02:26:56,610
clip. Yeah, in May of 2010. He
was a 16 year old 10th grader

2307
02:26:56,640 --> 02:26:59,670
walking home on Arthur Avenue in
the Bronx after a party.

2308
02:27:00,030 --> 02:27:02,370
The guy comes out of nowhere
says I wronged them. And the

2309
02:27:02,370 --> 02:27:05,280
next thing you know they put in
the cost model and notice do and

2310
02:27:05,280 --> 02:27:08,640
then I do three years over three
years for something I didn't

2311
02:27:08,640 --> 02:27:09,330
even do with

2312
02:27:09,360 --> 02:27:12,810
routers family couldn't make the
$10,000 bail on the robbery

2313
02:27:12,810 --> 02:27:15,990
charges. And he had a legal aid
attorney Browder is now

2314
02:27:15,990 --> 02:27:19,530
represented by civil rights law
firms. What was bad about this

2315
02:27:19,530 --> 02:27:19,890
case?

2316
02:27:22,290 --> 02:27:26,670
Pretty much everything. One
witness identification from a

2317
02:27:26,670 --> 02:27:30,750
stranger. No evidence, no
property recovered.

2318
02:27:31,140 --> 02:27:35,100
months turned into years. He
tried to commit suicide several

2319
02:27:35,100 --> 02:27:35,700
times.

2320
02:27:36,150 --> 02:27:38,580
It was just all balling in my
head to the point where I just

2321
02:27:38,580 --> 02:27:41,580
like I just like I had to just
grab my head like I can't take

2322
02:27:41,580 --> 02:27:41,700
it.

2323
02:27:41,700 --> 02:27:44,820
He missed his sister's wedding.
The birth of his nephew and so

2324
02:27:44,820 --> 02:27:48,510
many family events in January
Browder says he was offered a

2325
02:27:48,510 --> 02:27:52,200
plea deal after 33 months in
jail he refused

2326
02:27:52,230 --> 02:27:55,260
the judge she was trying to give
me time serving I wasn't taking

2327
02:27:55,260 --> 02:27:58,740
it and she told me if I if I
lose trial I could get 15 years

2328
02:27:58,800 --> 02:28:01,560
just take the time served you go
home today if you say you did I

2329
02:28:01,560 --> 02:28:03,240
didn't do I'm not I'm not saying
I did.

2330
02:28:04,260 --> 02:28:08,190
Back to jail in June he was
suddenly freed with no

2331
02:28:08,190 --> 02:28:09,030
explanation.

2332
02:28:09,390 --> 02:28:13,770
No apology. No nothing they just
said Oh, Case dismissed. Don't

2333
02:28:13,770 --> 02:28:16,290
worry about nothing like what do
you mean don't worry about it. I

2334
02:28:16,290 --> 02:28:18,120
just took over three years of my
life

2335
02:28:18,360 --> 02:28:21,600
he's now trying to make up for
those three high school years he

2336
02:28:21,600 --> 02:28:24,330
lost taking courses to get his
GED

2337
02:28:24,630 --> 02:28:28,470
I didn't get to go to prom
graduation nothing those are the

2338
02:28:28,470 --> 02:28:33,090
main years I'm never going to
get those years back never never

2339
02:28:33,870 --> 02:28:36,630
be interesting to have a follow
up see what happened with him

2340
02:28:37,080 --> 02:28:42,180
he killed himself he was facing
another charge and killed

2341
02:28:42,180 --> 02:28:46,650
yourself well he went back to ah
that's what I'm saying. Now you

2342
02:28:46,650 --> 02:28:49,020
are now if I say seek first to
understand then to be

2343
02:28:49,020 --> 02:28:50,850
understood. Now when people

2344
02:28:50,850 --> 02:28:53,340
say that slowly say that slowly.

2345
02:28:53,580 --> 02:28:58,830
See freak first to understand
then to be understood. Got it.

2346
02:29:00,180 --> 02:29:03,240
You have to understand the
perspective of people are saying

2347
02:29:03,660 --> 02:29:06,390
here's some bull crap the cow
got off because they hear

2348
02:29:06,390 --> 02:29:10,560
stories like this and hear how
the justice system jerking them

2349
02:29:10,560 --> 02:29:16,770
around. And it's not that there
is you've get so beat down in

2350
02:29:16,770 --> 02:29:19,860
your mindset that you don't want
better you just want worse for

2351
02:29:19,860 --> 02:29:20,400
other people.

2352
02:29:22,800 --> 02:29:27,450
How is it that you see these
things so clearly when it's so

2353
02:29:27,450 --> 02:29:31,440
obvious how traumatize most
African Americans so called

2354
02:29:31,440 --> 02:29:36,210
Black people are because

2355
02:29:38,820 --> 02:29:40,740
I just go off the facts.

2356
02:29:41,010 --> 02:29:44,430
I know that that's your pride.
I'm just wondering what what

2357
02:29:44,430 --> 02:29:48,000
what what did you not eat or
what did you eat as a kid? What

2358
02:29:48,000 --> 02:29:52,620
was it? Because you're truly
exceptional. It's very That's so

2359
02:29:52,620 --> 02:29:57,690
fucking astute how you bring
this to light. You don't have to

2360
02:29:57,690 --> 02:29:58,980
answer that you don't have to
answer that

2361
02:29:59,790 --> 02:30:03,510
question. cuz I want to help
people, other people understand

2362
02:30:03,510 --> 02:30:09,480
that don't get caught up in mass
formation, like for the turn of

2363
02:30:09,480 --> 02:30:15,360
the coin mass formation that
explains the condition. Yeah.

2364
02:30:15,840 --> 02:30:19,500
And it's on all sides it's on.
Everyone's in a form of it's

2365
02:30:19,500 --> 02:30:20,100
somewhere

2366
02:30:20,640 --> 02:30:23,670
cray. And then we just
manipulate the ones and zeros in

2367
02:30:23,670 --> 02:30:28,260
the binary world, the arm to get
them to act the way we want. And

2368
02:30:28,260 --> 02:30:31,230
then once you're dissatisfied
for the justice for everybody

2369
02:30:31,470 --> 02:30:34,440
introduce this is a throwback
clip clip for 59. But this is

2370
02:30:34,440 --> 02:30:36,030
the solution right here,
algorithms.

2371
02:30:36,120 --> 02:30:40,200
One particularly popular and now
widespread algorithm is used at

2372
02:30:40,200 --> 02:30:44,730
the point of arrest, to make
bail decisions. And conceptually

2373
02:30:44,730 --> 02:30:48,840
to pretty simple idea. A
defendant who's been charged

2374
02:30:48,840 --> 02:30:52,860
with a crime is information is
extracted from them and is fed

2375
02:30:52,860 --> 02:30:56,430
into a computer algorithm. And
that computer algorithm outputs

2376
02:30:56,490 --> 02:31:01,380
a risk factor. And that risk
factor is meant to quantify the

2377
02:31:01,380 --> 02:31:04,560
likelihood that that person will
commit a crime in the future.

2378
02:31:04,890 --> 02:31:09,060
Think of a really simple version
of the Minority Report. Without

2379
02:31:09,060 --> 02:31:13,800
the creepy people in the pools,
and if you are assessed to be

2380
02:31:13,800 --> 02:31:16,950
high risk, well, then the judge
may deny bail and you will be

2381
02:31:16,950 --> 02:31:20,640
held in prison awaiting trial.
And if you are assessed to be

2382
02:31:20,640 --> 02:31:25,830
low risk, then you may be
released, pending trial. Now, in

2383
02:31:25,830 --> 02:31:30,270
2016, investigative journalist
from Pro Publica published a

2384
02:31:30,270 --> 02:31:33,570
troubling report on one
particularly popular and

2385
02:31:33,570 --> 02:31:36,750
widespread predictive algorithm
that is used in the courts

2386
02:31:36,750 --> 02:31:40,860
around this country. And what
they found is that this

2387
02:31:40,860 --> 02:31:44,940
particular algorithm was
significantly disadvantageous to

2388
02:31:44,940 --> 02:31:49,170
black defendants. What they
found is that if you were a

2389
02:31:49,170 --> 02:31:54,090
black defendant, you are nearly
twice as likely to be predicted

2390
02:31:54,420 --> 02:31:58,590
as reoffending when you did not,
that happened 44% of the time,

2391
02:31:58,590 --> 02:32:02,400
if you're black, and only 23% of
the time, if you are white, that

2392
02:32:02,400 --> 02:32:05,790
is a staggering difference. And
at the same time, you were

2393
02:32:05,880 --> 02:32:09,420
almost twice as likely to be
predicted as not offending when

2394
02:32:09,420 --> 02:32:12,690
in fact, you did if you are
white, as compared to black that

2395
02:32:12,690 --> 02:32:17,100
happened 47% of the time, versus
28% of time. So in other words,

2396
02:32:17,550 --> 02:32:20,040
the algorithm is biased to black
defendants against black

2397
02:32:20,040 --> 02:32:20,580
defendants.

2398
02:32:22,230 --> 02:32:27,780
Hey, you ready for it? You ready
for revelation? Here we go. With

2399
02:32:27,780 --> 02:32:32,490
the algorithms, they may already
be able to, but certainly will

2400
02:32:32,490 --> 02:32:39,360
be able to literally dial up or
dial down violence whenever they

2401
02:32:39,360 --> 02:32:40,560
want it whenever they need

2402
02:32:40,560 --> 02:32:45,900
it. Which we saw you think about
this, what we saw Kenosha and

2403
02:32:45,900 --> 02:32:52,320
and you know, in a manual way
less, well, we need more

2404
02:32:52,320 --> 02:32:55,020
criminals on the street, let
them go let them free.

2405
02:32:55,050 --> 02:32:57,900
Right, but I mean, they can
predict exactly who they need.

2406
02:32:58,680 --> 02:33:03,000
They can predict where they need
them. What they will do. And

2407
02:33:03,000 --> 02:33:07,950
then Dude, we just start a
telegram group or a WhatsApp

2408
02:33:07,950 --> 02:33:11,460
group or whatever, hey, this is
the official, official group of

2409
02:33:11,460 --> 02:33:15,870
the protest. You send people
individual messages, they can

2410
02:33:15,870 --> 02:33:19,230
totally dial this up or down.
And it's it's the easiest way to

2411
02:33:19,230 --> 02:33:22,890
control the situation. And I
think they were manifesting. And

2412
02:33:22,890 --> 02:33:25,830
we're still not done with the RB
trial, which is a whole nother

2413
02:33:25,830 --> 02:33:28,800
problematic. And I said,
problematic. I want to kill

2414
02:33:28,800 --> 02:33:34,410
myself now. It's going to be a
problem. That one.

2415
02:33:36,210 --> 02:33:40,920
I'm just interested to see how
it's going to go. Um, the case

2416
02:33:40,950 --> 02:33:44,850
pretty much is x i don't comment
on a case to that that's over

2417
02:33:44,850 --> 02:33:47,820
because you never know what it
can be presented. But But yeah,

2418
02:33:47,820 --> 02:33:52,260
so now here's the case. Now this
is the Texas Shooting School

2419
02:33:52,260 --> 02:33:54,690
shooting. That happened
recently.

2420
02:33:55,740 --> 02:33:58,230
Breaking developments that
school shooting authorities

2421
02:33:58,230 --> 02:34:01,140
racing to the scene in
Arlington, Texas, outside

2422
02:34:01,140 --> 02:34:05,130
Dallas, this time at timberview
High School The gunfire ring out

2423
02:34:05,160 --> 02:34:08,280
early this morning. One of the
victims shot a young English

2424
02:34:08,280 --> 02:34:11,820
teacher he is 25 years old.
Tonight. He's in the hospital a

2425
02:34:11,820 --> 02:34:14,910
15 year old in the hospital to
who had been in critical

2426
02:34:14,910 --> 02:34:18,780
condition. Now we're covering in
the ICU word of an active

2427
02:34:18,780 --> 02:34:21,510
shooter reaching police just
after nine this morning armed

2428
02:34:21,510 --> 02:34:25,380
officers running inside. The
suspect quickly identified as an

2429
02:34:25,410 --> 02:34:28,470
18 year old student at the
school fleeing in a car,

2430
02:34:28,680 --> 02:34:32,010
triggering a massive hunt and a
warning that he was armed and

2431
02:34:32,010 --> 02:34:35,910
dangerous. Students and teachers
barricaded themselves with doors

2432
02:34:35,910 --> 02:34:39,180
the chairs and desks and behind
those doors huddling there in

2433
02:34:39,180 --> 02:34:42,750
the dark outside a massive law
enforcement response securing

2434
02:34:42,750 --> 02:34:46,170
the school getting the injured
medical help. Law enforcement

2435
02:34:46,170 --> 02:34:50,100
rushing to his home nearby. They
did not find him there. Tonight

2436
02:34:50,100 --> 02:34:54,090
after searching for hours the
gunman turning himself in and

2437
02:34:54,090 --> 02:34:56,940
what we've now learned ABCs
Marcus more leading us off here

2438
02:34:56,940 --> 02:35:00,750
from Texas tonight. Tonight a
shooting a There's Arlington,

2439
02:35:00,750 --> 02:35:03,240
Texas high school leaving four
people hurt.

2440
02:35:03,300 --> 02:35:08,520
This is not a random act of
violence. This is not somebody

2441
02:35:08,520 --> 02:35:10,530
attacking our schools.

2442
02:35:11,759 --> 02:35:14,699
Official saying it all started
around 915 This morning,

2443
02:35:14,879 --> 02:35:18,539
authorities now reviewing videos
posted to social media appearing

2444
02:35:18,539 --> 02:35:19,439
to show a fight

2445
02:35:19,470 --> 02:35:22,230
we believe right now preliminary
that it was a student that got

2446
02:35:22,230 --> 02:35:27,300
into a fight and drew a weapon
is bop bop bop. that six out of

2447
02:35:27,300 --> 02:35:30,930
six seven sides back to back.
Yeah.

2448
02:35:31,590 --> 02:35:36,330
Did you hear about this case?
Yes. Yes, I did. So it was a

2449
02:35:36,330 --> 02:35:39,270
weird thing going on where they
didn't want to call him a school

2450
02:35:39,270 --> 02:35:43,050
shooter and you know, that kind
of thing. But the reason why I'm

2451
02:35:43,050 --> 02:35:47,850
bringing this up is it connects
to the cow Rittenhouse case

2452
02:35:47,850 --> 02:35:52,890
because I want to highlight some
What about isms? On both sides.

2453
02:35:53,250 --> 02:35:57,930
So the way I did it last on the
last set of clips was well look

2454
02:35:57,930 --> 02:36:00,870
at Khalif and look at cow What
about Khalif? What about what

2455
02:36:00,870 --> 02:36:03,060
happened to cleave? Now in this
case?

2456
02:36:03,090 --> 02:36:06,780
If it was a white kid who had
done this, right?

2457
02:36:06,810 --> 02:36:12,510
Or is her own cow sit in jail
for what four months? Or how

2458
02:36:12,510 --> 02:36:15,510
many months? He said in jail
months? Three months? Give me

2459
02:36:15,510 --> 02:36:19,680
three months. And now there's
kids out get kids out the next

2460
02:36:19,680 --> 02:36:23,760
day after doing a school
shooting? Yeah. This this is

2461
02:36:23,760 --> 02:36:26,040
that what you're talking about?
They're playing with these

2462
02:36:26,040 --> 02:36:31,680
algorithms and news stories to
keep people in a constant state

2463
02:36:31,740 --> 02:36:37,530
of just outright outrage. That's
a great word is constant

2464
02:36:37,530 --> 02:36:41,010
outrage. And what about isms?
And what reason why I'm bringing

2465
02:36:41,010 --> 02:36:45,810
this up was when Kyle got out of
jail. You saw him celebrating

2466
02:36:45,810 --> 02:36:49,140
with his friends whatnot and his
picture and they have almost

2467
02:36:49,140 --> 02:36:53,730
identical picture of this. So
right you're so right. Yeah,

2468
02:36:53,730 --> 02:36:57,540
celebrate having a party I think
gets out of jail. And it's just

2469
02:36:57,540 --> 02:37:01,470
a Spider Man meme of important
that each other and they do this

2470
02:37:01,470 --> 02:37:04,740
they play this. Play it off each
other so we can get into the

2471
02:37:05,940 --> 02:37:06,840
number 29

2472
02:37:07,409 --> 02:37:11,069
Timothy George Simpkins has been
released after posting bond. The

2473
02:37:11,069 --> 02:37:13,469
18 year old is accused of
shooting three people at

2474
02:37:13,469 --> 02:37:15,899
timberview High School in
Arlington yesterday. Two

2475
02:37:15,899 --> 02:37:19,079
students and a teacher were all
taken to the hospital. One of

2476
02:37:19,079 --> 02:37:22,829
those victims at 15 year old
student remains in the ICU.

2477
02:37:23,069 --> 02:37:26,339
Police say all three victims are
expected to recover Simpkins is

2478
02:37:26,339 --> 02:37:29,069
facing three counts of
aggravated assault with a deadly

2479
02:37:29,069 --> 02:37:32,879
weapon. Police say he pulled out
a gun after a fight with another

2480
02:37:32,879 --> 02:37:35,579
student the school was put on
lockdown while police searched

2481
02:37:35,579 --> 02:37:38,999
for him. He eventually showed up
at a local police station with a

2482
02:37:38,999 --> 02:37:42,209
lawyer to turn himself in.
Investigators say the gun they

2483
02:37:42,209 --> 02:37:45,539
believe he used was found two
miles from the school along a

2484
02:37:45,539 --> 02:37:49,349
street in Grand Prairie classes
are canceled at Timber view

2485
02:37:49,349 --> 02:37:52,289
today and counseling has been
made available to students and

2486
02:37:52,289 --> 02:37:52,769
staff

2487
02:37:52,800 --> 02:37:57,990
yeah Wow. Yeah, no I heard I
heard about it because it's a

2488
02:37:57,990 --> 02:38:02,850
Texas story but i i right away
new like okay, I got you can

2489
02:38:02,850 --> 02:38:06,210
tell on the reporting. There's
no description of the of the of

2490
02:38:06,210 --> 02:38:08,730
the shooter. It's like, okay, we
know exactly what's going on

2491
02:38:08,730 --> 02:38:09,750
right away and

2492
02:38:09,750 --> 02:38:13,050
the charge is either there will
be attempted murder. I mean, I

2493
02:38:13,050 --> 02:38:15,990
would think that would be the
the charge to give him button.

2494
02:38:16,350 --> 02:38:19,530
But it's known as assault with a
deadly weapon, which is like

2495
02:38:19,530 --> 02:38:24,540
That's weird. Um, but this is
like, I only highlight those to

2496
02:38:24,540 --> 02:38:28,770
show the What about isms? And
this is what divides people and

2497
02:38:28,770 --> 02:38:32,400
keeps people on the two sides.
And this is purposely done by

2498
02:38:32,400 --> 02:38:36,000
the media. This is this is all
what go back this only lands to

2499
02:38:36,000 --> 02:38:40,710
your whole point of this being a
sign up. Yep. With that said,

2500
02:38:40,800 --> 02:38:44,370
let's go ahead and thank some
more people for making this

2501
02:38:44,370 --> 02:38:45,060
happen. I

2502
02:38:45,060 --> 02:38:47,310
like brand new money. I just I
don't want any money around me.

2503
02:38:47,310 --> 02:38:52,320
It's not I don't want to have a
new one that our brand than an

2504
02:38:52,320 --> 02:38:56,040
old 20 That's kind of dumb and
but there's something about new

2505
02:38:56,040 --> 02:39:02,400
money that excites you like $100
bills. Hello, money. Most

2506
02:39:02,400 --> 02:39:05,280
Beautiful thing on earth is $100
Bill, I haven't seen a woman is

2507
02:39:05,280 --> 02:39:08,970
good looking as $100 bills
excites

2508
02:39:08,970 --> 02:39:11,670
you. Yeah, let's talk about some
new money.

2509
02:39:12,120 --> 02:39:16,020
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Chat with YouTube. And and you
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2515
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It's why do we make the show
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sending us a little bits of
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2520
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we just do an eight hour show.
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appreciate the MO facts podcast.
Thank you for all your hard

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work. A one dropper from Alaska.
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2527
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2528
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man. Well said you've got 3484
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2532
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everything you bring up. You
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opening stuff I hear far
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you for your show, fellow
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2535
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you don't have to agree with
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2537
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he lets me and he lets me know
on Twitter when he doesn't

2538
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agree. Good. Thank you.
Appreciate it.

2539
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You should just do a booster
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is really all anyone listens to
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And COVID 1984. By the way, I
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behind this behind this schemes.
With blueberry fun Blessings to

2548
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you both. Yes. Yeah. I like
checking in on you to me doing

2549
02:41:46,679 --> 02:41:50,789
stuff like that. You were Danny
Katz the other day. Yes. Yeah.

2550
02:41:50,969 --> 02:41:52,019
Did you read her book?

2551
02:41:52,920 --> 02:41:58,770
I'd have not. But we discussed
her and the Power Word. That was

2552
02:41:58,770 --> 02:42:02,130
a great conversation. That's
another product I have coming.

2553
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Growing up. It's called Converse
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2554
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2555
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Well, she showed them out
rolling them out.

2556
02:42:12,360 --> 02:42:15,120
Yeah, she wrote. She wrote a
book about propaganda, which is

2557
02:42:15,120 --> 02:42:15,690
quite cool.

2558
02:42:17,430 --> 02:42:21,120
children's book as well. Um, the
thing to do, actually,

2559
02:42:21,150 --> 02:42:23,610
yeah, that's it. Well, this book
is kind of a children's book. So

2560
02:42:23,700 --> 02:42:28,890
she may have another one as
well. Yes. Yes. Anyway, um, by

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2564
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2565
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conversation with Danny. Oh,
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Stastny. The world needs more
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Is that the first call? Yeah,
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Maybe the second second David

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coming? Yeah, keep them coming.
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Laurie, and may asks, What is
this? And I think that's a very

2636
02:46:55,680 --> 02:46:59,340
good question. You said it's a
CYA, which I do agree. But I

2637
02:46:59,340 --> 02:47:04,740
think this is also has a primary
motive. And I think Joy Reid

2638
02:47:04,740 --> 02:47:07,770
tipped her hat in this recent
clip.

2639
02:47:08,370 --> 02:47:10,530
Alright, everybody. Good
evening. We begin the readout

2640
02:47:10,530 --> 02:47:14,310
tonight with two cases, which
will once again tell us where we

2641
02:47:14,310 --> 02:47:17,850
are as a country, whether armed
primarily white right there.

2642
02:47:17,880 --> 02:47:22,110
I mean, that's it. This is the
complete set off two cases. It's

2643
02:47:22,170 --> 02:47:25,350
they're doing a and b and
triggering off each other. Am I

2644
02:47:25,350 --> 02:47:28,440
close? No. Yeah, but what we
want because you stepped on a

2645
02:47:28,440 --> 02:47:30,900
little bit. Back. Okay.

2646
02:47:31,020 --> 02:47:33,180
All right, everybody. Good
evening. We begin the readout

2647
02:47:33,180 --> 02:47:36,960
tonight with two cases, which
will once again tell us where we

2648
02:47:36,960 --> 02:47:40,890
are as a country, whether armed
primarily white men can continue

2649
02:47:40,890 --> 02:47:43,800
to take matters into their own
hands and serve as Judge jury

2650
02:47:44,160 --> 02:47:48,540
and executioner legally under
the law. Yeah, there's the trial

2651
02:47:48,540 --> 02:47:51,930
of teenage vigilante Col.
Rittenhouse were jurors just

2652
02:47:51,930 --> 02:47:55,170
moments ago broke for the day
vigilante on the trial of father

2653
02:47:55,170 --> 02:47:57,690
and son Greg and Travis
McMichael and their neighbor

2654
02:47:57,690 --> 02:48:01,530
William Roddy Bryan, they stand
accused of murdering 25 year old

2655
02:48:01,560 --> 02:48:04,650
Aman arbory. And what many have
called a modern day lynching.

2656
02:48:05,250 --> 02:48:08,130
The dream and claim that this
was just a citizen's arrest gone

2657
02:48:08,130 --> 02:48:11,580
wrong. Rittenhouse has pleaded
not guilty, claiming self

2658
02:48:11,580 --> 02:48:15,000
defense. The prosecution argued
that Rittenhouse was a chaos

2659
02:48:15,000 --> 02:48:18,060
tourist who lied about what
happened that night and provoked

2660
02:48:18,060 --> 02:48:20,730
the initial interaction with
Rosenbaum which set in motion

2661
02:48:20,730 --> 02:48:24,510
the chain of events that night
in August of last year. Since

2662
02:48:24,510 --> 02:48:27,780
then, Rittenhouse has become a
right wing hero. Mark and

2663
02:48:27,780 --> 02:48:30,570
Patricia McCloskey remember them
the St. Louis couple pardoned by

2664
02:48:30,570 --> 02:48:33,420
Donald Trump when he was
president for aiming guns at

2665
02:48:33,420 --> 02:48:36,480
Black Lives Matter protesters.
Well, they've showed up the past

2666
02:48:36,480 --> 02:48:40,110
few days to support Rittenhouse.
They claimed that the teenager

2667
02:48:40,140 --> 02:48:43,140
who might do shot and killed two
people is the real victim the

2668
02:48:43,140 --> 02:48:47,490
victim of canceled culture. And
another weird twist, Rittenhouse

2669
02:48:47,490 --> 02:48:51,510
actually participated in
choosing the final 12 men and

2670
02:48:51,510 --> 02:48:54,150
women who will decide his fate
by pulling numbers from a

2671
02:48:54,150 --> 02:48:58,530
tumbler like a macabre game show
The 60 randomly chose become

2672
02:48:58,530 --> 02:48:59,370
alternates

2673
02:49:00,630 --> 02:49:05,760
well, you want to know what I
heard. Great Great. So this was

2674
02:49:05,760 --> 02:49:10,140
almost like it's almost like a
one two punch setup. We get

2675
02:49:10,140 --> 02:49:15,090
Erica we get the poster boy for
looks like as you pointed out

2676
02:49:15,090 --> 02:49:19,800
total vigilante totally
believable he's, you know, he

2677
02:49:19,800 --> 02:49:23,400
hangs out with a junior proud
boys. I mean, you can totally

2678
02:49:23,400 --> 02:49:26,970
see it homegrown violent
extremist the kind of January

2679
02:49:26,970 --> 02:49:33,390
six type person and arms white
man and then the Aubrey case

2680
02:49:33,420 --> 02:49:37,020
which from what I've read. I've
seen almost zero coverage of it

2681
02:49:37,020 --> 02:49:40,860
from what I've read. Sounds like
those guys should they they

2682
02:49:40,860 --> 02:49:47,820
murdered this guy unlawfully.
And so that's very powerful to

2683
02:49:47,820 --> 02:49:51,750
have those two cases one after
another. Regardless even it's

2684
02:49:51,750 --> 02:49:56,640
kind of like well, okay, that
one didn't work. Now. This one

2685
02:49:56,670 --> 02:50:02,370
you know, this is so clear that
even Republicans can see it. And

2686
02:50:02,370 --> 02:50:04,890
you know, that will be a very
powerful trigger, depending on

2687
02:50:04,890 --> 02:50:06,300
the outcome of that trial.

2688
02:50:07,770 --> 02:50:12,780
And what they really want it was
coming out of November, the

2689
02:50:12,780 --> 02:50:16,560
elections they will, Virginia
took over a lot of your sand a

2690
02:50:16,560 --> 02:50:20,640
lot of political real estate,
you would have had the school

2691
02:50:20,640 --> 02:50:25,650
year going, you know, going in
CRT firmly and planet, you would

2692
02:50:25,650 --> 02:50:32,310
have had, um, um, the vaccines,
the key is getting jabbed, I

2693
02:50:32,310 --> 02:50:36,150
mean that the Democratic side
was supposed to be on a roll

2694
02:50:36,150 --> 02:50:41,490
right now you get kiled. And you
get the Auburn guy, murderers or

2695
02:50:41,670 --> 02:50:45,390
people just being accused of
murdering them. You get these

2696
02:50:45,390 --> 02:50:49,680
all these books, man slam dunks,
but everything's around for

2697
02:50:49,680 --> 02:50:53,910
them. And I think they're like,
dang it. Like, we took Elon

2698
02:50:53,910 --> 02:50:58,020
Virginia, which was big. We took
air with this cow written our

2699
02:50:58,020 --> 02:51:01,170
case, we took our critical race
theory. That's very interesting.

2700
02:51:01,200 --> 02:51:07,020
Your your, your, your, you're
saying here that these trials

2701
02:51:07,020 --> 02:51:12,090
were scheduled? Autonomous?
Yeah, I like that. Oh, yeah. Oh,

2702
02:51:12,090 --> 02:51:15,510
yeah. That just makes it a
bigger, bigger thing than I

2703
02:51:15,510 --> 02:51:17,010
thought. Yeah. Okay. That's very
good.

2704
02:51:17,520 --> 02:51:21,750
Right. So I'm next to the
esoteric thing on his blood room

2705
02:51:21,780 --> 02:51:25,590
moon that comes around every I
think five or six years. You got

2706
02:51:26,640 --> 02:51:27,720
you got it all going.

2707
02:51:33,360 --> 02:51:38,910
That's a custom. That's custom.
On the spot, but I think that's

2708
02:51:38,910 --> 02:51:42,600
the point of what they want it
but the whole goal is the guns,

2709
02:51:43,080 --> 02:51:45,570
the whole and cushy view. If you
listened to that beginning that

2710
02:51:45,570 --> 02:51:46,650
clip again. The first mate

2711
02:51:46,680 --> 02:51:50,370
Oh, yeah. Yeah, it's white men
with guns, arms.

2712
02:51:50,730 --> 02:51:52,980
What she said, Listen what she
said again. Oh,

2713
02:51:53,490 --> 02:51:58,980
alright. So my second. 31

2714
02:51:58,980 --> 02:52:01,560
Yeah. All right, everybody. Good
evening. We begin the readout

2715
02:52:01,560 --> 02:52:05,340
tonight with two cases, which
will once again tell us where we

2716
02:52:05,340 --> 02:52:09,270
are as a country whether armed
primarily white men can continue

2717
02:52:13,530 --> 02:52:19,500
primarily white men. Were coming
for all the guns. Yeah. And

2718
02:52:19,500 --> 02:52:24,240
that's the that's the fool's
errand or the foolish logic that

2719
02:52:24,240 --> 02:52:26,610
you think you're gonna be able
to keep your guns and only gonna

2720
02:52:26,610 --> 02:52:29,190
say, white people guns? I don't
think so. They're coming for

2721
02:52:29,340 --> 02:52:31,830
everybody's guns. Well, is every
time?

2722
02:52:32,310 --> 02:52:35,100
Well, this is part of the
crossing state lines that they

2723
02:52:35,100 --> 02:52:37,740
keep talking about. That's
that's that's dropped in there

2724
02:52:37,740 --> 02:52:41,310
specifically to talk about a
legal thing that has to change.

2725
02:52:41,460 --> 02:52:46,890
We need a federal law for guns
passing across state lines.

2726
02:52:46,890 --> 02:52:49,920
Yeah. Because you can do that.
That's that's one power the

2727
02:52:49,920 --> 02:52:53,910
United States President has and,
and the federal government in

2728
02:52:53,910 --> 02:53:00,060
general can make laws about
interstate travel. And it could

2729
02:53:00,060 --> 02:53:02,790
be an interesting way of doing
it. It's kind of an OSHA way of

2730
02:53:02,790 --> 02:53:05,400
mandating the shot, but okay,
we'll see how it goes.

2731
02:53:06,210 --> 02:53:09,270
And I'm glad you brought to OSHA
because to be honest with you,

2732
02:53:09,270 --> 02:53:12,540
the only thing keeping the
needle out of our arms is guns.

2733
02:53:13,170 --> 02:53:15,990
Let's just keep it 100. I mean,
we would be Australia if it

2734
02:53:15,990 --> 02:53:19,140
weren't for guns right now. On a
lot of issues. Yeah,

2735
02:53:19,140 --> 02:53:21,480
I'm sad to say to agree.

2736
02:53:22,530 --> 02:53:25,590
They have to get rid of the guns
and they're trying to do it any

2737
02:53:25,590 --> 02:53:30,330
way possible. And I keep
stressing the MS and NBC. The MS

2738
02:53:30,330 --> 02:53:37,260
stands for Microsoft. Who's over
Microsoft, Dr. Bill. Hey, what

2739
02:53:37,350 --> 02:53:41,910
is guns? Anytime you start
taking away China take away my

2740
02:53:41,910 --> 02:53:45,540
second amendment right? No, I
can't get on board with that.

2741
02:53:45,540 --> 02:53:47,970
No, no, no, because that's our
thing. Protect your first

2742
02:53:47,970 --> 02:53:52,440
amendment right. See, that's
badass. But this is what they

2743
02:53:52,440 --> 02:53:56,040
want you to say look, white
people are the only people that

2744
02:53:56,040 --> 02:53:58,860
have second amendment rights or
first amendment rights and we

2745
02:53:58,860 --> 02:54:02,880
take away from them to you be
equal equity. I don't want it

2746
02:54:02,880 --> 02:54:04,800
that way. No, no,

2747
02:54:05,339 --> 02:54:08,519
no me neither mo once again,
we're so similar

2748
02:54:10,020 --> 02:54:13,260
the way I want this to go down I
want all the privileges granted

2749
02:54:13,260 --> 02:54:16,290
to me by my rights don't take my
rights away and their rights

2750
02:54:16,290 --> 02:54:19,230
away to make us equal No, and
that's why I can't get on board.

2751
02:54:19,230 --> 02:54:26,640
There's MSNBC did this piece a
while ago and I've been this is

2752
02:54:26,760 --> 02:54:34,680
where I like I think, right
around 2019 2020 on black

2753
02:54:34,680 --> 02:54:35,730
militia groups.

2754
02:54:35,790 --> 02:54:39,210
Oh, I saw some of this. Yeah.
Huh.

2755
02:54:39,540 --> 02:54:43,560
Did they start with us? Yeah,
they start with this was the

2756
02:54:43,590 --> 02:54:48,090
this was the our scary black
people with guns before they did

2757
02:54:48,090 --> 02:54:50,280
this scary white people with
guns 32.

2758
02:54:51,030 --> 02:54:54,330
Now are the concerns of another
community that too often feels

2759
02:54:54,360 --> 02:54:57,690
unprotected and the group that's
stepping up to do something

2760
02:54:57,690 --> 02:55:02,790
about it? They're known as they
NF AC and unarmed all black

2761
02:55:02,790 --> 02:55:07,080
militia. You might have seen an
armed blacked militia that you

2762
02:55:07,080 --> 02:55:11,070
might have seen it protests in
Georgia, Kentucky and DC.

2763
02:55:11,460 --> 02:55:15,240
Joining us now from Atlanta with
more on this. NBC News

2764
02:55:15,240 --> 02:55:18,930
correspondent Morgan Radford.
Morgan, tell us about this group

2765
02:55:18,960 --> 02:55:22,050
make a good morning. The bottom
line is this group says that the

2766
02:55:22,050 --> 02:55:25,860
US government as well as law
enforcement simply does not do

2767
02:55:25,890 --> 02:55:29,010
enough to protect black
Americans in this country, which

2768
02:55:29,010 --> 02:55:31,890
is why they say they're taking
matters into their own hands.

2769
02:55:31,920 --> 02:55:35,100
And interestingly, Mika, this is
a group that is growing, they

2770
02:55:35,100 --> 02:55:39,390
say they now boast recruits in
nearly every single state. So we

2771
02:55:39,390 --> 02:55:42,480
decided to go and embed with
them and see exactly what

2772
02:55:42,480 --> 02:55:49,470
they're doing and why. Take a
listen. The sound of war right

2773
02:55:49,470 --> 02:55:56,700
here at home. This is the NF AC
an all black militia with a

2774
02:55:56,700 --> 02:55:59,340
mission to defend the black
community by any means

2775
02:55:59,340 --> 02:56:00,090
necessary.

2776
02:56:00,450 --> 02:56:02,640
So this is training for one of
the

2777
02:56:04,500 --> 02:56:08,340
appearing by the 100 protests
from Stone Mountain Georgia to

2778
02:56:08,340 --> 02:56:12,180
Louisville, Kentucky, demanding
justice for police killings and

2779
02:56:12,180 --> 02:56:15,030
countering what they believe is
the threat of right wing

2780
02:56:15,030 --> 02:56:15,750
militias.

2781
02:56:16,320 --> 02:56:18,660
Yeah, remember this? Yeah.

2782
02:56:19,410 --> 02:56:23,610
So they're MSNBC is embedded
their word? Yeah, you

2783
02:56:23,610 --> 02:56:25,650
only do that with friendly
soldiers?

2784
02:56:27,300 --> 02:56:31,860
Well, I think they appear to be
friendly, which I think is more

2785
02:56:31,860 --> 02:56:37,350
to this story. So um, this is
when you had a dice. They're

2786
02:56:37,350 --> 02:56:40,800
scary black people popping up
with guns and they had poor

2787
02:56:40,800 --> 02:56:44,970
trigger. control what is called
when you don't have your finger

2788
02:56:44,970 --> 02:56:49,800
in the trigger, what does that
call? I call that what's the

2789
02:56:49,800 --> 02:56:50,760
what's the word trigger?

2790
02:56:50,790 --> 02:56:54,270
My finger your trigger? Yeah.
What's

2791
02:56:54,270 --> 02:56:57,870
it called something control
trigger something. But anyway, I

2792
02:56:58,980 --> 02:57:02,940
don't want to belabor the point.
But it was I think people got

2793
02:57:02,940 --> 02:57:09,930
shot and it was errantly and
it's just, it was, it is stumped

2794
02:57:09,930 --> 02:57:12,960
to me. I'm like, Where does this
come out of, you know, out of

2795
02:57:12,960 --> 02:57:17,370
the blue. And I'll get more into
it on the other side of this

2796
02:57:17,370 --> 02:57:19,350
clip, but just the high heel to
me.

2797
02:57:19,680 --> 02:57:24,390
It's a movement started in 2017.
By this man, former musician and

2798
02:57:24,390 --> 02:57:28,230
Army veteran John Grandmaster
Jay Johnson, is the

2799
02:57:28,230 --> 02:57:31,650
movement growing by leaps and
bounds. We met

2800
02:57:31,650 --> 02:57:34,710
with him outside of Cincinnati,
where he says another new

2801
02:57:34,710 --> 02:57:36,510
chapter is now in the works.

2802
02:57:36,600 --> 02:57:40,620
We're in a phase C stands for
the not effing around coalition,

2803
02:57:40,650 --> 02:57:44,760
what's behind the name uniface.
He was born out of the last four

2804
02:57:44,760 --> 02:57:47,820
years under the Trump
administration, the

2805
02:57:47,820 --> 02:57:50,670
deterioration of racial
relations in this country, it

2806
02:57:50,670 --> 02:57:54,630
means that you're preparing
yourself to defend yourselves.

2807
02:57:54,720 --> 02:57:58,590
While the group style echoes the
Black Panther Party of the 1960s

2808
02:57:58,740 --> 02:58:02,430
their goals are distinct,
focusing on defense with the

2809
02:58:02,430 --> 02:58:04,710
ultimate goal of a black ethno
state.

2810
02:58:05,130 --> 02:58:08,280
What makes us so different is
that our goal is our own

2811
02:58:08,280 --> 02:58:13,590
government, our own country a
place where we can determine our

2812
02:58:13,650 --> 02:58:14,100
own

2813
02:58:14,130 --> 02:58:17,610
future is violence an option to
reach your goals

2814
02:58:17,640 --> 02:58:22,230
the United States was built on
violence being an option

2815
02:58:22,260 --> 02:58:25,830
violence should be the last
option. We talked

2816
02:58:25,830 --> 02:58:31,650
about this group that they they
tried to buy some land and build

2817
02:58:31,650 --> 02:58:32,550
like a new

2818
02:58:33,930 --> 02:58:39,300
new with the land back. Now that
was that was also mfac They they

2819
02:58:39,300 --> 02:58:42,540
tried to buy land I know I know
the land but yeah, in Texas,

2820
02:58:42,540 --> 02:58:45,840
they were gonna try and buy
something. Okay. But this guy

2821
02:58:46,140 --> 02:58:49,590
Jam Master Jay or whatever his
name great grand master Grand

2822
02:58:49,590 --> 02:58:54,000
Master. Yeah, you know? Could be
the same guy you don't know.

2823
02:58:54,180 --> 02:59:00,450
It's so comical because you can
tell on YouTube. YouTube's

2824
02:59:00,480 --> 02:59:04,980
algorithm is a great detection
mechanism for who they're trying

2825
02:59:04,980 --> 02:59:08,130
to push to you. Okay, because
you will see just people pop up

2826
02:59:08,130 --> 02:59:12,090
in your your suggestion feed. I
saw this with six nine, the

2827
02:59:12,090 --> 02:59:17,280
rapper. Um, Takashi six, nine,
they just bombarded you. Um, I

2828
02:59:17,280 --> 02:59:19,770
only noticed God only listened
to his music while he showed up

2829
02:59:19,770 --> 02:59:24,150
in my feed. Now this guy was
just all over my feed. From

2830
02:59:24,150 --> 02:59:26,220
you're saying from the things
that are interesting. I watch.

2831
02:59:26,400 --> 02:59:29,760
I'm like, Who is this guy? And
like, he's talking all reckless.

2832
02:59:29,760 --> 02:59:33,180
And it's just like, I mean, you
just have certain vibes on

2833
02:59:33,180 --> 02:59:36,510
people. It's like you You lead
and knock people into a burning

2834
02:59:36,510 --> 02:59:39,480
house. You're saying to take a
quote from Martin Luther King.

2835
02:59:39,660 --> 02:59:43,410
Like you don't have any
strategy. And then they say, Oh,

2836
02:59:43,410 --> 02:59:46,620
this is copping up from the last
four years. If you said the last

2837
02:59:46,620 --> 02:59:51,210
400 years, I might have liked it
would have went over smoother.

2838
02:59:51,300 --> 02:59:53,850
Right? You see the last four
years that sounds political to

2839
02:59:53,850 --> 02:59:57,390
me. Wow, all of a sudden the
last four years and point.

2840
02:59:58,440 --> 03:00:01,260
Trayvon Martin was four years
ago. along with four years ago,

2841
03:00:01,620 --> 03:00:04,680
the Baltimore riots was longer
than four years ago. You know,

2842
03:00:04,680 --> 03:00:09,720
the shootings in Baton Rouge and
Dallas was longer than four

2843
03:00:09,720 --> 03:00:12,450
years ago. So don't play these
games with me. You see, I'm

2844
03:00:12,450 --> 03:00:17,130
saying but I'll let you get on
to the final clip. It just this

2845
03:00:17,130 --> 03:00:19,440
guy just didn't sit with me when
I heard.

2846
03:00:20,369 --> 03:00:24,299
Extremism experts say the group
is distinct from far right

2847
03:00:24,299 --> 03:00:24,929
militias,

2848
03:00:24,959 --> 03:00:28,859
they have not risen to the level
of concern of say, the three

2849
03:00:28,859 --> 03:00:32,429
percenters the Oathkeepers they
have not engaged in violence. In

2850
03:00:32,429 --> 03:00:36,029
fact, most of their of their
demonstrations, they have in

2851
03:00:36,029 --> 03:00:38,069
fact coordinated activities with
police

2852
03:00:38,100 --> 03:00:42,540
when you talk about January six,
and we saw those writers stormed

2853
03:00:42,540 --> 03:00:45,810
the Capitol. What do you say to
critics who say you're no

2854
03:00:45,810 --> 03:00:48,210
different from them? They're
extremists. You're extremist

2855
03:00:48,210 --> 03:00:48,990
show me

2856
03:00:49,530 --> 03:00:53,010
where we have done those things.
They've killed people. They

2857
03:00:53,010 --> 03:00:55,860
disrespected the government to
the point where they have

2858
03:00:55,860 --> 03:00:58,530
invaded its sacred halls show me
where

2859
03:01:03,360 --> 03:01:07,980
they disrespected the
government, the same government

2860
03:01:07,980 --> 03:01:11,370
you're trying to overthrow I'm
confused. I'm confusion here.

2861
03:01:12,030 --> 03:01:16,200
See is these You gotta listen to
what people say? Well, I'm gonna

2862
03:01:16,200 --> 03:01:17,250
say I'm also looking

2863
03:01:17,249 --> 03:01:20,639
at some of the pictures you
remember, they they were at the

2864
03:01:20,639 --> 03:01:24,299
Stone Mountain, and they weren't
going to let Trump do his speech

2865
03:01:24,299 --> 03:01:28,199
there. And it was a whole bunch
of crap for these guys.

2866
03:01:28,650 --> 03:01:31,740
Right? And I'm not I'm not
saying him he represent this is

2867
03:01:31,740 --> 03:01:34,080
kind of like black lives matter.
Black lives matter. Yes, sure

2868
03:01:34,080 --> 03:01:38,580
kind of thing where you have
people that really are into guns

2869
03:01:38,610 --> 03:01:43,530
and protection and you know,
first second amendment that you

2870
03:01:43,530 --> 03:01:48,420
know, that may share the same,
you know, thoughts on you know,

2871
03:01:48,420 --> 03:01:52,170
protect my sales, but then they
get sucked up into these. I'm

2872
03:01:52,170 --> 03:01:56,010
gonna call it what it is a
honeypot. This guy was saying

2873
03:01:56,010 --> 03:02:01,050
and it was a lot of a lot of
agent claims around him in the

2874
03:02:01,050 --> 03:02:07,020
in certain survey, I can see
why. Right? So is but for who is

2875
03:02:07,020 --> 03:02:12,510
the question? So is it I saw
what was going on here. Let's

2876
03:02:12,510 --> 03:02:15,720
get a bunch of scary black
people together and get with

2877
03:02:15,720 --> 03:02:19,860
guns and go make confrontation
at Stone Mountain which they

2878
03:02:19,860 --> 03:02:23,250
have the right to the same way
cow had the right to form a

2879
03:02:23,250 --> 03:02:27,780
militia and protect you know,
their property and protest. It's

2880
03:02:27,780 --> 03:02:31,890
legal, it's legal. But it's the
way he did it. It had me it's

2881
03:02:31,890 --> 03:02:35,520
like it was a it was setting
them up to fail. And you can

2882
03:02:35,520 --> 03:02:37,590
hear more of that all in the
clip. We have

2883
03:02:37,589 --> 03:02:41,639
done those things. They've
killed people, they disrespected

2884
03:02:41,669 --> 03:02:44,339
the government to the point
where they have invaded it

2885
03:02:44,339 --> 03:02:47,789
sacred halls show me where we've
done those things. Because we

2886
03:02:47,789 --> 03:02:50,069
have done none of them. What are
you all training

2887
03:02:50,070 --> 03:02:54,660
for? We're training for self
defense, a response to show they

2888
03:02:54,660 --> 03:03:01,650
won't be scared or unprotected
any longer. Mika, we asked the

2889
03:03:01,650 --> 03:03:04,920
group several times to give us
an exact number of their

2890
03:03:04,920 --> 03:03:08,130
membership, they refuse to do
so. But it appears to be in the

2891
03:03:08,130 --> 03:03:10,980
1000s based on the number of
people who have come to their

2892
03:03:10,980 --> 03:03:14,460
marches, and also based on the
number of people who saw at one

2893
03:03:14,460 --> 03:03:17,640
individual training session. But
it's also important to note Mika

2894
03:03:17,670 --> 03:03:21,990
that the mfac has no record of
violent incidents. However,

2895
03:03:22,020 --> 03:03:25,050
their leader Grandmaster J has
been recently indicted on

2896
03:03:25,050 --> 03:03:28,320
federal charges by federal
officials who alleged that he

2897
03:03:28,320 --> 03:03:31,980
pointed a rifle at officers
during that demonstration and

2898
03:03:31,980 --> 03:03:34,650
supported Bianna Taylor in
Louisville, Kentucky last

2899
03:03:34,650 --> 03:03:39,000
September. That case is ongoing.
He says pleaded not guilty. And

2900
03:03:39,000 --> 03:03:41,940
we are waiting to find out the
results of that case, Mika.

2901
03:03:42,990 --> 03:03:47,280
That gave me the same vibes as
the proud warrior leader being

2902
03:03:47,280 --> 03:03:51,420
extracted right before January
6, it's like who are these

2903
03:03:51,420 --> 03:03:51,840
people?

2904
03:03:52,260 --> 03:03:58,170
This reminds me of I did a
documentary in 90 or 91. And

2905
03:03:58,470 --> 03:04:03,780
part of it was in Florida near
Miami. And we were going to

2906
03:04:03,780 --> 03:04:07,410
interview this group. And as it
turns out, this is the kind of

2907
03:04:07,410 --> 03:04:09,780
group that you see on
television. Well, so this group

2908
03:04:09,810 --> 03:04:18,000
of Cubans Cuban exiles, who ever
since the revolution, and you

2909
03:04:18,000 --> 03:04:21,630
know, they came over to the
United States, they've been

2910
03:04:22,980 --> 03:04:25,560
making sure they've been
practicing every weekend, they

2911
03:04:25,560 --> 03:04:29,850
go out deep into the swamps and
they get together and they shoot

2912
03:04:29,850 --> 03:04:34,260
and they do military drills,
etc. And so we came in as a

2913
03:04:34,260 --> 03:04:38,730
documentary crew kind of it was
like a, like a kind of a rock

2914
03:04:38,730 --> 03:04:41,670
and roll type documentary. So
just show just doing cool stuff.

2915
03:04:41,670 --> 03:04:43,620
And it's like, let's go check
out these Cuban guys who are

2916
03:04:43,620 --> 03:04:46,950
shooting shit up. Someone's like
Civil War reenactment only what

2917
03:04:46,950 --> 03:04:50,130
they're doing is they're staying
prepared for 40 years. They're

2918
03:04:50,130 --> 03:04:52,470
staying prepared for the you
know the revolution when they

2919
03:04:52,470 --> 03:04:56,430
need to go and take back their
their country. And he would see

2920
03:04:56,430 --> 03:04:58,620
these guys whenever there's
something going on with Cuba.

2921
03:04:58,770 --> 03:05:03,240
They show these guys You know,
it's a version of that. And it

2922
03:05:03,240 --> 03:05:06,690
would be the same guys. And you
know they're shooting weird left

2923
03:05:06,690 --> 03:05:09,480
and right is totally
uncoordinated. Not like these

2924
03:05:09,480 --> 03:05:13,410
guys and fac would you know they
had a down? Also younger, but

2925
03:05:13,410 --> 03:05:17,070
it's the same mechanism. And
it's perfect for for really it's

2926
03:05:17,070 --> 03:05:19,800
a news it's a television news
mechanism. It's really good,

2927
03:05:19,800 --> 03:05:20,550
it's effective.

2928
03:05:20,970 --> 03:05:24,540
Right and they want it to use
them to play off of the white

2929
03:05:24,540 --> 03:05:26,760
militia, especially going on a
stone mountain.

2930
03:05:27,120 --> 03:05:31,920
Exactly. And you you keep these
guys funded for years and years

2931
03:05:31,920 --> 03:05:35,040
by making sure they get some
guns or whatever they need, you

2932
03:05:35,040 --> 03:05:37,470
know, hook them up a little bit
they keep them going.

2933
03:05:38,159 --> 03:05:42,449
And the funny thing was and this
goes go to show you the actual

2934
03:05:42,449 --> 03:05:47,879
value of guns when you got on
black men and on white man

2935
03:05:47,879 --> 03:05:49,709
together nobody got shot. Yeah,
no

2936
03:05:49,710 --> 03:05:56,310
surprisingly like in Michigan.
They were all outside the

2937
03:05:56,339 --> 03:06:00,599
state the Capitol. Right?
That's, that's equality. Yeah,

2938
03:06:00,599 --> 03:06:00,659
it

2939
03:06:00,660 --> 03:06:03,750
was black guys, white guys all
strung out. They're all you

2940
03:06:03,750 --> 03:06:07,350
know, military garb. All looking
the same. Yeah.

2941
03:06:07,380 --> 03:06:10,740
Right. But that's, that's a
quality right there. I got guns,

2942
03:06:10,740 --> 03:06:15,960
you got good. You're saying?
Yeah, we can see how it go. And

2943
03:06:15,960 --> 03:06:19,230
but you know what, we have stuff
we have to take care of when we

2944
03:06:19,230 --> 03:06:22,710
walk away from here. So we
Cooler heads prevail. Yeah. So

2945
03:06:22,740 --> 03:06:26,040
that's, that's what they don't
want to happen. But I've seen

2946
03:06:26,040 --> 03:06:29,460
this before. And we covered this
in the show. And we just go

2947
03:06:29,460 --> 03:06:32,130
through these clips, right quit.
But this is just a throwback to

2948
03:06:32,130 --> 03:06:36,960
what I think this. What's
happening with the whole white

2949
03:06:36,960 --> 03:06:39,750
militia. We saw this before with
the Black Panthers.

2950
03:06:40,050 --> 03:06:44,700
In early 1967, the Black
Panthers organized armed patrols

2951
03:06:44,700 --> 03:06:46,560
through the poorest
neighborhoods of Oakland,

2952
03:06:46,560 --> 03:06:49,800
California, and act that some
called the beginning of the

2953
03:06:49,800 --> 03:06:52,770
modern gun rights movement, car

2954
03:06:54,270 --> 03:07:02,130
walk up to the scene. Those who
had rifles will carry that in

2955
03:07:02,130 --> 03:07:04,290
the open and clearly visible,

2956
03:07:04,980 --> 03:07:08,850
will stand at a distance where
the police couldn't say they

2957
03:07:08,850 --> 03:07:12,930
were interfering with their
wrist or the retention of the

2958
03:07:12,930 --> 03:07:20,460
individual. And make sure that
there's no brutality. The police

2959
03:07:20,460 --> 03:07:24,150
were confronted by citizens who
are not just voicing their

2960
03:07:24,150 --> 03:07:26,430
opinions. But were harmed.

2961
03:07:27,990 --> 03:07:36,660
No, can I close the door for a
second? Sure. How long in the

2962
03:07:36,660 --> 03:07:42,960
future? Do you plan these shows?
I mean, this is that's 20 shows

2963
03:07:42,960 --> 03:07:48,600
ago. And so just tell me how you
like 10 episodes ahead. 15.

2964
03:07:49,230 --> 03:07:55,800
It doesn't work quite like that.
But I can see open folders and

2965
03:07:55,800 --> 03:08:00,450
throw stuff in them. Like that's
gonna come back around. That

2966
03:08:00,450 --> 03:08:02,490
kind of thing. So, yeah,

2967
03:08:02,580 --> 03:08:08,280
I like how you roll. All right.
Thank you. Sorry, everybody.

2968
03:08:08,370 --> 03:08:12,270
We're back. Yes. So I can see
how this thing sets up is that

2969
03:08:12,630 --> 03:08:17,670
we want the guns. And my issue
with that is you taking my gun

2970
03:08:17,730 --> 03:08:21,480
leave me completely unprotected.
And this is how GvG created

2971
03:08:21,480 --> 03:08:26,760
itself. That this is the only
way I can protect you say you

2972
03:08:26,760 --> 03:08:32,040
say not you, but they say that
I'm the most vulnerable, most in

2973
03:08:32,040 --> 03:08:37,260
need of protection. So give me a
gun. And the allow me to protect

2974
03:08:37,260 --> 03:08:37,830
myself

2975
03:08:37,860 --> 03:08:41,580
and the use of these guys. And
this whole concept to take them

2976
03:08:41,580 --> 03:08:42,060
away.

2977
03:08:42,750 --> 03:08:47,730
Yes, it's beautiful. And they
just keep the cycle going and

2978
03:08:47,730 --> 03:08:50,250
going and going and going and
going. We don't have to get into

2979
03:08:50,250 --> 03:08:53,100
the second clip that just I just
want to illustrate that we've

2980
03:08:53,100 --> 03:08:55,140
seen this before you heard and
we're saying that was the

2981
03:08:55,530 --> 03:08:59,580
beginning of the modern gun
control. Black Guy Show guns at

2982
03:08:59,580 --> 03:09:04,530
the state house up we got to do
some white guy show up to the

2983
03:09:04,530 --> 03:09:08,070
Capitol with guns. We got to do
something about it and Nast. And

2984
03:09:08,070 --> 03:09:11,700
they're going to take our guns
with him. And it's like no, you

2985
03:09:11,700 --> 03:09:14,160
can't have my gun because at the
end of the day, that's the only

2986
03:09:14,160 --> 03:09:16,950
way I can protect myself and I
will be honest with you. And

2987
03:09:16,950 --> 03:09:20,400
this may be a hot take right
here but I won't more coward

2988
03:09:20,400 --> 03:09:24,150
houses in the black community.
And what I mean by that is black

2989
03:09:24,150 --> 03:09:29,190
young men that will go to in the
face of violence and say no

2990
03:09:29,190 --> 03:09:33,150
more. That was a you know what
it was 40 shootings in Chicago

2991
03:09:33,150 --> 03:09:37,290
today. This weekend. No more.
We're gonna listen and we're

2992
03:09:37,290 --> 03:09:40,320
gonna show our own
neighborhoods, weapons,

2993
03:09:40,470 --> 03:09:44,040
which was a group of dads I saw
a group of dads recently.

2994
03:09:44,669 --> 03:09:48,239
Thank you. What was I forget
their name but they were down in

2995
03:09:48,239 --> 03:09:52,109
Louisiana I believe. Yeah. And
they showed up and said no more.

2996
03:09:52,499 --> 03:09:56,579
That's exactly what this young
man the young man say that No,

2997
03:09:56,819 --> 03:09:59,549
you're not Oh, no, we're gonna
have guns we're gonna be and now

2998
03:09:59,549 --> 03:10:03,209
what be trained. I want to put
guns. It's not a young black man

2999
03:10:03,209 --> 03:10:05,879
as early as possible. Guess
what? Because guess what is

3000
03:10:05,879 --> 03:10:09,779
happening with this. And on the
other side, like cow

3001
03:10:09,779 --> 03:10:12,389
Rittenhouse, you can say what
you want to about him, but he

3002
03:10:12,389 --> 03:10:17,999
got busy with that stick. You
can say what you want to know

3003
03:10:17,999 --> 03:10:22,319
about him. But he got busy with
respect to shooters, I just

3004
03:10:22,319 --> 03:10:25,439
gotta say it. I mean like when
rap songs all that we respect

3005
03:10:25,439 --> 03:10:29,069
the shooter and us and pull up
with the stick and all that cow

3006
03:10:29,069 --> 03:10:32,429
he was he was he was about what
he said he was about. He pulled

3007
03:10:32,429 --> 03:10:34,949
up. But what I'm saying I'm not
saying in a negative way for

3008
03:10:35,189 --> 03:10:38,669
young black men, but to take
control. And that's how you

3009
03:10:38,669 --> 03:10:39,869
don't need to please but

3010
03:10:40,620 --> 03:10:44,190
I love because you know, we've
been talking for going on two

3011
03:10:44,190 --> 03:10:51,180
years. I love and you really
started it for me. But you know

3012
03:10:51,180 --> 03:10:55,320
not J lock at 100. He's out
there saying black men, young

3013
03:10:55,320 --> 03:10:59,160
black men got to stand up is
more and more and more saying

3014
03:10:59,160 --> 03:11:03,210
this out loud. And it's I'm
hearing it. I hear you MO

3015
03:11:04,980 --> 03:11:06,660
You see me? Do you see me? No, I

3016
03:11:06,660 --> 03:11:09,330
don't. I've never seen no,
that's not a fair question.

3017
03:11:11,070 --> 03:11:13,860
No, I'm just saying, but that's
what's scary about them because

3018
03:11:13,860 --> 03:11:16,260
then you don't need a police
state. And then you get the man

3019
03:11:16,260 --> 03:11:19,110
reinstated in the house. And
then that disrupts their power

3020
03:11:19,110 --> 03:11:21,930
structure, which is basically
the basis of white supremacy.

3021
03:11:21,930 --> 03:11:24,090
And you're so right, the one
we're a government. I mean,

3022
03:11:24,090 --> 03:11:25,470
that's Yeah,

3023
03:11:25,500 --> 03:11:30,660
well, it's the it's, I'm calling
it the GP three. I know it's a

3024
03:11:30,660 --> 03:11:33,870
new one, I'm working on it. It's
the global private public

3025
03:11:33,870 --> 03:11:38,910
partnership. So it's really
it's, it's going to be policy

3026
03:11:38,940 --> 03:11:43,710
set by governments, and the
money is all run by commercial

3027
03:11:43,710 --> 03:11:48,750
companies. And we're and will be
100% controlled. So that's that

3028
03:11:48,750 --> 03:11:52,620
that's really the ultimate goal.
But Australia, it's interesting,

3029
03:11:52,620 --> 03:11:55,860
you brought that up because
Australia, and I didn't and

3030
03:11:55,860 --> 03:12:01,140
again, Mr. Documentary in the
90s. I did. Australia and it did

3031
03:12:01,140 --> 03:12:04,470
some very interesting things.
And I really loved it. And this

3032
03:12:04,470 --> 03:12:07,380
was before they everyone. I
mean, and I know that

3033
03:12:08,250 --> 03:12:12,270
oversimplification of what
happened with guns in Australia,

3034
03:12:12,270 --> 03:12:15,660
but let's just say people gave
up their guns voluntarily. And

3035
03:12:15,660 --> 03:12:19,830
it was such a cool place. It was
a mix of you could feel like

3036
03:12:19,920 --> 03:12:25,680
American ism is there. But also
British clear, obviously. Some

3037
03:12:25,680 --> 03:12:28,530
of the props, some of the
traditions of the British, which

3038
03:12:28,530 --> 03:12:33,840
I like. And then something
called jellified, the cozy kind

3039
03:12:33,840 --> 03:12:36,870
of Dutch vibe, it all had all
these elements and, and you'll

3040
03:12:36,870 --> 03:12:40,170
see British people, American
people and Dutch people living

3041
03:12:40,170 --> 03:12:44,280
there too. They they everyone
can feel that. That changed any

3042
03:12:44,280 --> 03:12:49,140
and their event was a mass
shooting, it was horrible. And

3043
03:12:49,200 --> 03:12:52,770
and of course, we saw the same
happened with New Zealand just a

3044
03:12:52,770 --> 03:12:57,210
few years ago. And now you see
what happens when you give it

3045
03:12:57,210 --> 03:12:57,540
up.

3046
03:12:59,100 --> 03:13:01,800
You may I heard you make this
point. I don't. I don't remember

3047
03:13:01,800 --> 03:13:05,070
what show it was on. But I heard
you make this point of

3048
03:13:05,370 --> 03:13:08,070
Australians and I don't want to
castigate Australians in this

3049
03:13:08,070 --> 03:13:13,170
way, but they started off as a
penal colony he had Dvorak said

3050
03:13:13,170 --> 03:13:16,500
this actually okay. Yeah. And I
think he was a very astute and

3051
03:13:16,500 --> 03:13:20,010
as a parallel there with with
the black community if you don't

3052
03:13:20,010 --> 03:13:25,200
start off as a full citizen, if
your Genesis is less than a full

3053
03:13:25,200 --> 03:13:29,370
citizen Yeah, you give up your
rights a lot easier. And this is

3054
03:13:29,370 --> 03:13:36,630
what I was born with, you know
how white man carry things is

3055
03:13:36,630 --> 03:13:40,800
like these are my rights and
they stand on it because in

3056
03:13:40,800 --> 03:13:43,590
America white man like these
I've always had all my rights.

3057
03:13:43,800 --> 03:13:46,380
Australia didn't didn't always
had a rights they were they were

3058
03:13:46,380 --> 03:13:50,100
a penal colony, which he was and
they were prisoners and then got

3059
03:13:50,100 --> 03:13:50,520
free.

3060
03:13:50,580 --> 03:13:56,970
And I think, sadly, the, the
black American experience, which

3061
03:13:56,970 --> 03:13:59,070
you know, you you know, you
know, the history of your

3062
03:13:59,070 --> 03:14:03,120
family, this has been passed on
but that has been hijacked into

3063
03:14:03,120 --> 03:14:06,750
a shitty ass narrative, which
only makes it about one thing

3064
03:14:06,750 --> 03:14:10,950
and one thing only, not about
how you became citizens how you

3065
03:14:10,950 --> 03:14:14,130
got your God given right. It's
much more about look at the

3066
03:14:14,130 --> 03:14:15,570
white man fucking with you
still.

3067
03:14:16,170 --> 03:14:19,650
That's why they won't let us
know about. That's why I made a

3068
03:14:19,650 --> 03:14:23,430
purpose to let know about the
heroes of the Vietnam War. And

3069
03:14:23,430 --> 03:14:25,740
we're going to talk more about
the heroes of the World War Two

3070
03:14:25,740 --> 03:14:28,830
black heroes, they don't want to
let you know about black men

3071
03:14:28,830 --> 03:14:31,470
that got busy with a gun. It's
that unless they're doing

3072
03:14:31,470 --> 03:14:34,440
something to kill another black
man, right? That's the only one

3073
03:14:34,440 --> 03:14:37,290
that's the only people that are
comfortable with having guns.

3074
03:14:37,320 --> 03:14:40,980
You know why? Because black men
that kill Black other men with

3075
03:14:40,980 --> 03:14:44,670
guns are not but agents of white
supremacy. You want to call

3076
03:14:44,730 --> 03:14:47,460
people that are productive
agents of white supremacy or

3077
03:14:47,460 --> 03:14:50,850
white supremacist or whatever,
black white supremacy and black

3078
03:14:50,850 --> 03:14:55,080
skin? No, it's the rappers it's
the ones that go out here and

3079
03:14:55,080 --> 03:14:58,980
will willingly kill another
black man. Now what I want to do

3080
03:14:58,980 --> 03:15:01,890
is counterbalance that. You
know, we can have our own

3081
03:15:01,890 --> 03:15:04,200
police. We can have our own
communities. We don't need to

3082
03:15:04,200 --> 03:15:07,170
call the cops. You know what,
what's going on? We'll come over

3083
03:15:07,170 --> 03:15:09,390
there and inspect. Hey, what's
going on over here? Oh, yeah.

3084
03:15:09,390 --> 03:15:11,760
Okay. All right, just making
sure you're saying keep it

3085
03:15:11,760 --> 03:15:14,940
moving. And this is not a
foreign idea because there was a

3086
03:15:14,940 --> 03:15:20,640
show called Rock with Charles as
done. It was a whole push on

3087
03:15:20,640 --> 03:15:24,240
television about black people
doing citizen patrols and, you

3088
03:15:24,240 --> 03:15:29,280
know, watching those things now,
and then it went to stop

3089
03:15:29,280 --> 03:15:32,400
snitching. It wasn't like that
was a PUT THAT WAS ON 60

3090
03:15:32,400 --> 03:15:35,310
minutes. Stop snitching. That
was not a coincidence. That was

3091
03:15:35,310 --> 03:15:39,630
the rollout of justice stepped.
We did didn't know the

3092
03:15:40,140 --> 03:15:43,230
deterioration of your
neighborhood. So I digress. But

3093
03:15:43,230 --> 03:15:46,590
I just want to let that known
that if you never had your foot,

3094
03:15:46,590 --> 03:15:51,840
right, but the thing was is
people my age, me and my age. We

3095
03:15:51,840 --> 03:15:55,350
didn't grow up with Jim Crow
when drinking out of water

3096
03:15:55,350 --> 03:15:58,170
fountains, though kind of thing.
So we kind of think we have our

3097
03:15:58,170 --> 03:16:03,180
rights. So you're always no, I
want my rights. You know, my

3098
03:16:03,180 --> 03:16:05,880
granddad and my dad stood up for
this kind of stuff. You know, he

3099
03:16:05,880 --> 03:16:08,580
went through this bullcrap. I
want them all I want I'm not

3100
03:16:08,580 --> 03:16:09,570
gonna sell it for anything.
Right.

3101
03:16:09,600 --> 03:16:14,220
And I don't want that is the
original you guys first? Because

3102
03:16:15,210 --> 03:16:17,010
my rights are getting taken away
too.

3103
03:16:17,850 --> 03:16:20,970
Right? I don't want discounted
rights. I don't I read it Have I

3104
03:16:20,970 --> 03:16:22,680
really have something else than
discounted? Right?

3105
03:16:22,710 --> 03:16:25,950
And by the way, if your rights
are not right, then my rights

3106
03:16:25,950 --> 03:16:27,570
aren't right. That's

3107
03:16:27,660 --> 03:16:30,840
why we need start written.
That's how I see. Now you see

3108
03:16:30,840 --> 03:16:34,470
why I said Lady Justice had a
serious upskirt because now

3109
03:16:34,470 --> 03:16:38,040
people are realizing that like,
Oh, now you see. Like when we

3110
03:16:38,040 --> 03:16:40,440
used to go on court like Man, if
this system was rigged against

3111
03:16:40,440 --> 03:16:45,060
this guy, nah, the system's
fine. Yeah. This this justice

3112
03:16:45,090 --> 03:16:47,610
now. Now you're seeing like they
tried to get out.

3113
03:16:47,640 --> 03:16:51,360
It's interesting. You don't what
you don't really hear a lot of

3114
03:16:52,620 --> 03:16:57,810
even on Fox News was that
justice has been served. No,

3115
03:16:58,500 --> 03:17:00,690
that's not they're not saying
that.

3116
03:17:01,470 --> 03:17:04,500
They're saying something totally
counter to that. The justice

3117
03:17:04,500 --> 03:17:07,830
system is completely corrupt.
And I'm like a, whatever it

3118
03:17:07,830 --> 03:17:11,490
takes for it to be identified.
So be it you know, and that's

3119
03:17:11,490 --> 03:17:14,640
why I don't get upset about
names and outcome of this trial.

3120
03:17:15,570 --> 03:17:19,620
Some people want you to virtue
signaling be all irate over it.

3121
03:17:19,620 --> 03:17:21,780
No, I'm not doing that. Because
you know what, at the end of the

3122
03:17:21,780 --> 03:17:25,470
day, my right to defend myself
is still there. We have

3123
03:17:25,470 --> 03:17:30,180
presidents for what self defense
is great works for me. But I

3124
03:17:30,180 --> 03:17:33,540
want to get to these last few
clips. Just the primarily black

3125
03:17:33,540 --> 03:17:36,120
man you're reaching with the gun
control thing? Well, oh,

3126
03:17:36,120 --> 03:17:41,160
yeah, no, no, no, no. I know
that. It's about that time we're

3127
03:17:41,160 --> 03:17:43,890
nearing the end of the show. I'm
pretty sure that's not what

3128
03:17:43,890 --> 03:17:46,440
you're supposed to be thinking.
Alright, so

3129
03:17:46,560 --> 03:17:50,940
now this is an MSNBC clip. And I
keep harping on MSNBC because

3130
03:17:50,940 --> 03:17:53,220
there have been the loudest
voice in this whole situation.

3131
03:17:53,220 --> 03:17:57,210
Yep. This is a gun rights
supporters celebrate Rittenhouse

3132
03:17:57,210 --> 03:17:58,680
verdict one, rather you

3133
03:17:58,680 --> 03:18:03,450
go first you're reactive to
Madison concern. A member of

3134
03:18:03,450 --> 03:18:05,760
Congress what he said in the
clip we just showed,

3135
03:18:05,850 --> 03:18:11,280
I think it's frightening when I
heard the jury's decision, and

3136
03:18:11,280 --> 03:18:15,420
then the reaction to it. I think
what people are forgetting if

3137
03:18:15,420 --> 03:18:18,060
you start with the wrong
premise, you come to the wrong

3138
03:18:18,060 --> 03:18:24,360
conclusion. The reason cow
Rittenhouse went to Kenosha was

3139
03:18:24,360 --> 03:18:28,170
because there was protests
against a young black man shot

3140
03:18:28,170 --> 03:18:31,770
in the back seven times by
police. And there was reaction

3141
03:18:31,770 --> 03:18:36,390
to it. Some violence, some and
most peace, right mostly. That's

3142
03:18:36,390 --> 03:18:41,790
why he came up with an AR 15. He
came to confront protesters. He

3143
03:18:41,790 --> 03:18:45,270
came saying he wanted to protect
property. That was not his he

3144
03:18:45,270 --> 03:18:47,940
was not a member of that
community. That's why he came.

3145
03:18:48,240 --> 03:18:52,260
So what this verdict does is
make people like me that lead

3146
03:18:52,260 --> 03:18:56,520
protests that lead marches, very
concerned now are people now

3147
03:18:56,520 --> 03:19:02,250
going to come into our protest
and killed people or hurt people

3148
03:19:02,370 --> 03:19:06,390
and claim self defense. And it
has now been anointed by people

3149
03:19:06,390 --> 03:19:09,600
like cod THON and others that
are saying he ought to be a

3150
03:19:09,600 --> 03:19:13,710
congressional intern. He's a
hero, when he in fact

3151
03:19:13,770 --> 03:19:17,700
aggressively came after a
situation that he was opposed

3152
03:19:17,700 --> 03:19:21,450
to, which was the protest around
the shooting by police of Jacob

3153
03:19:21,840 --> 03:19:22,590
Blake Jr.

3154
03:19:25,110 --> 03:19:28,680
I displayed here the whole
narrative laid out in one

3155
03:19:28,680 --> 03:19:35,070
concise, concise, a beat when
Maggie insists that he went down

3156
03:19:35,160 --> 03:19:39,360
to seven shots the he went into
you know, kind of like he was

3157
03:19:39,360 --> 03:19:43,470
the aggressor in the situation.
Protecting your property does

3158
03:19:43,470 --> 03:19:45,870
not make you aggressive
protecting other people's

3159
03:19:45,870 --> 03:19:50,670
property does not make you an
aggressor. Um, we need to have

3160
03:19:50,670 --> 03:19:53,550
the same mentality we need to
know what our rights are

3161
03:19:53,550 --> 03:19:54,600
exercises. This

3162
03:19:54,630 --> 03:20:04,500
is such an incredible setup by
The certainly by or executed by

3163
03:20:04,500 --> 03:20:08,850
the Democratic Party, you know,
let's forget about who's who's

3164
03:20:08,880 --> 03:20:14,310
really running the whole thing
but Right. Wow, I did. I didn't

3165
03:20:14,310 --> 03:20:19,560
see this. I didn't see it zoomed
out that far. And they had this

3166
03:20:19,590 --> 03:20:23,970
all planned and and now it's not
working. None of it's working.

3167
03:20:23,970 --> 03:20:26,940
So they got to blame Joe. They
got to they got to get rid of

3168
03:20:26,940 --> 03:20:30,480
him Kamala is no good mayor
Pete's got a poppin Oh, my God.

3169
03:20:32,730 --> 03:20:35,670
The reason why it's not working
is when I look at my account.

3170
03:20:36,450 --> 03:20:39,510
And my money is less than two
what it was, yeah, I can't get

3171
03:20:39,510 --> 03:20:41,940
with that. And then you want to
take the one thing that protects

3172
03:20:42,450 --> 03:20:46,170
for certain that protects myself
away, away from me, that doesn't

3173
03:20:46,170 --> 03:20:51,060
work for me. So now you're just
pushing, you know, pushing and

3174
03:20:51,120 --> 03:20:56,190
pushing the wrong way. So you
saw our Reverend Al set it up.

3175
03:20:56,610 --> 03:20:59,730
So this next guy is gonna come
home and slamming on through

3176
03:20:59,730 --> 03:21:03,000
with what the solution is from
our being scared at protests.

3177
03:21:03,330 --> 03:21:07,230
Okay. Attorney said when he says
follow the law, this is where

3178
03:21:07,260 --> 03:21:11,520
probably the one time I might
agree with Congressman Jordan.

3179
03:21:12,240 --> 03:21:17,430
When you read the Wisconsin law,
it makes it really difficult to

3180
03:21:17,430 --> 03:21:22,590
not find or difficult to find
Rittenhouse guilty isn't the

3181
03:21:22,590 --> 03:21:27,390
problem. The laws, the way
they're written that make that

3182
03:21:27,390 --> 03:21:30,570
make us vulnerable I when I say
us, the American people, but

3183
03:21:30,570 --> 03:21:31,860
certainly black people.

3184
03:21:32,190 --> 03:21:34,650
Okay. And here's the problem.
When we start talking about the

3185
03:21:34,650 --> 03:21:36,810
law as it relates to the
Rittenhouse case, it's not

3186
03:21:36,810 --> 03:21:39,510
simply the law on the books,
it's the law that was provided

3187
03:21:39,540 --> 03:21:42,300
to the jury for them to use and
deliberation, right, the law

3188
03:21:42,300 --> 03:21:44,970
that they had to use during
deliberation was actually more

3189
03:21:44,970 --> 03:21:47,550
forgiving than you would think
with regard to reaching the

3190
03:21:47,550 --> 03:21:50,460
right results in this case. But
here's the problem. And it's a

3191
03:21:50,460 --> 03:21:53,220
structural problem based on the
way the case was tried. The

3192
03:21:53,220 --> 03:21:56,100
prosecutors assume they could
prove that Rittenhouse conduct

3193
03:21:56,100 --> 03:21:58,920
was reckless. And they assume
that this law of self defense

3194
03:21:58,920 --> 03:22:01,590
was never going to come up,
because he's breaking curfew.

3195
03:22:01,740 --> 03:22:04,290
And he's wrongfully carrying the
assault rifle. And if those two

3196
03:22:04,290 --> 03:22:07,200
things are true, he doesn't get
the instruction on self defense.

3197
03:22:07,320 --> 03:22:09,780
So you don't have to worry about
it. Yet people who don't

3198
03:22:09,780 --> 03:22:12,600
understand the law of self
defense or xe how it should have

3199
03:22:12,600 --> 03:22:15,450
been applied in this scenario
hadn't been properly applied, I

3200
03:22:15,450 --> 03:22:17,430
think you could lead to a
different result. And go ahead,

3201
03:22:17,430 --> 03:22:17,670
right.

3202
03:22:17,670 --> 03:22:25,230
But I also think that we need to
have federal law. We are upon

3203
03:22:25,500 --> 03:22:28,920
two or three months from now,
the 10th anniversary of Trayvon

3204
03:22:28,920 --> 03:22:32,310
Martin, we still have not
legislated on a federal level

3205
03:22:32,310 --> 03:22:34,860
about standing your ground,
which is now in many more

3206
03:22:34,860 --> 03:22:35,280
states.

3207
03:22:37,260 --> 03:22:38,340
Wow.

3208
03:22:38,940 --> 03:22:42,780
And NASA problem, people
ineffective Wow, we don't have

3209
03:22:42,780 --> 03:22:45,510
anything that's you know, saying
concrete or stand your ground.

3210
03:22:46,170 --> 03:22:48,690
It's been two black men killed
in Florida behind stand your

3211
03:22:48,690 --> 03:22:51,960
ground. And we haven't fixed
this problem which I don't

3212
03:22:51,960 --> 03:22:54,570
really have an issue with stand
the ground as long as you judge

3213
03:22:54,570 --> 03:22:57,420
it the same way for all parties.
Of course, my thing he was

3214
03:22:57,420 --> 03:23:00,810
saying, Stay your ground because
you just never know when you had

3215
03:23:00,810 --> 03:23:04,500
to rip up and do something. So
that's

3216
03:23:04,500 --> 03:23:09,780
why that's why and I think we
talked about it. But anyone who

3217
03:23:09,780 --> 03:23:15,360
owns a firearm needs to get
firearm insurance, which usually

3218
03:23:15,360 --> 03:23:18,930
includes attorney and
everything. Because it doesn't

3219
03:23:18,930 --> 03:23:21,270
matter what happens. There's
going to be a lawsuit because

3220
03:23:21,270 --> 03:23:26,130
that's we're, like we said in
the beginning. Hey, man, I was

3221
03:23:26,130 --> 03:23:28,440
breaking into your house you
shot me I'm gonna sue you.

3222
03:23:28,830 --> 03:23:32,400
But that's the that's the tax.
See, that's the tax on owning

3223
03:23:32,400 --> 03:23:36,510
guns. And I don't I don't agree.
I agree with that sound advice?

3224
03:23:36,600 --> 03:23:40,320
Okay, the premise behind it, I
think is just another tack. So

3225
03:23:40,320 --> 03:23:41,670
now is well

3226
03:23:44,610 --> 03:23:47,610
no, no, the solution is to just
shoot the lawyers. That's the

3227
03:23:47,610 --> 03:23:52,800
solution. I'm just kidding.
Lawyers. I'm just kidding. Now

3228
03:23:52,800 --> 03:23:55,380
the lawyers are actually gonna
get us out of this. You watch.

3229
03:23:55,440 --> 03:23:55,920
There's enough

3230
03:23:56,220 --> 03:24:02,970
of this thing is this is you
want to add another insurance,

3231
03:24:02,970 --> 03:24:06,240
which is another tax, which is a
luxury for some people. Yeah,

3232
03:24:06,240 --> 03:24:10,740
I'm with you. It's racing that
makes it makes the noise is the

3233
03:24:10,740 --> 03:24:14,250
kick. Now what's that? Because
it hits across all colored lines

3234
03:24:14,460 --> 03:24:18,150
to say well, because that's what
they want to wear. You got to

3235
03:24:18,150 --> 03:24:20,970
have certain insurance to own a
gun, you know, they won't be a

3236
03:24:20,970 --> 03:24:24,690
straight out banding of guns. It
would just be so, so expensive

3237
03:24:24,690 --> 03:24:27,390
to own one. Of course I can no
you just like in New York, you

3238
03:24:27,390 --> 03:24:32,190
can own a gun. I mean, if you
know the right people, you can

3239
03:24:32,190 --> 03:24:34,770
get the right paperwork sign. So
we see that.

3240
03:24:35,040 --> 03:24:38,700
Yeah, what I was talking about
more is like, NRA these types of

3241
03:24:38,700 --> 03:24:41,940
groups exist specifically for
gun owners and you know, it

3242
03:24:41,940 --> 03:24:45,660
won't break it. I agree. It's a
tax. I totally agree. I'm just

3243
03:24:45,660 --> 03:24:48,480
saying to people, please don't
forget that step. That's just

3244
03:24:48,480 --> 03:24:51,990
the reality of where we're
getting the being real here.

3245
03:24:51,990 --> 03:24:54,390
That's the reality of where we
live right now.

3246
03:24:54,659 --> 03:24:58,139
Yes, it's sound practical
advice, and I totally agree. But

3247
03:24:58,139 --> 03:25:02,249
what I'm saying is the premise
behind Did you have to have so

3248
03:25:02,249 --> 03:25:06,269
much protection for your
protection? That was it it would

3249
03:25:06,269 --> 03:25:08,459
just wear people down to the
point where like, you know what,

3250
03:25:08,669 --> 03:25:11,549
it's not even worth it. Not even
worth owning a gun you know that

3251
03:25:11,549 --> 03:25:12,479
kind of thing. GBG

3252
03:25:12,480 --> 03:25:16,740
STL blacks gun shoot the
lawyers, I'm telling you a

3253
03:25:16,740 --> 03:25:19,170
solution and you need a Bitcoin

3254
03:25:23,460 --> 03:25:26,160
so they brought river outfall
for this segment, and I'm gonna

3255
03:25:26,160 --> 03:25:29,370
show you how disgusting This is.
And this is the last clip. He

3256
03:25:29,370 --> 03:25:33,150
didn't do good enough job a good
enough job selling it. So they

3257
03:25:33,150 --> 03:25:36,000
actually called him back and
made him do it.

3258
03:25:36,300 --> 03:25:38,100
Again, do over nice.

3259
03:25:40,020 --> 03:25:41,430
I have a few more words.

3260
03:25:44,280 --> 03:25:47,670
The same day, the same show. So
he was already on his way out.

3261
03:25:47,670 --> 03:25:48,750
He was in the green room and

3262
03:25:49,320 --> 03:25:51,930
witness same show, but you were
saying they called him back like

3263
03:25:51,930 --> 03:25:55,110
you need to double down on
that's why he said I have more

3264
03:25:55,110 --> 03:25:56,820
to say on it. That's what he's
saying. Yeah.

3265
03:25:57,150 --> 03:26:03,420
Oh, I know exactly how that
went. But to get your ass back

3266
03:26:03,420 --> 03:26:04,110
in there.

3267
03:26:05,370 --> 03:26:10,530
I have a few more words on the
Rittenhouse trout that ended and

3268
03:26:10,530 --> 03:26:16,260
the RV case is in its final
stages. In just a few months,

3269
03:26:16,440 --> 03:26:21,150
we're going to be facing the 10
year anniversary of the killing

3270
03:26:21,150 --> 03:26:24,900
of Trayvon Martin. The Stand
Your Ground laws became a

3271
03:26:24,900 --> 03:26:28,980
national anchor case, we never
really dealt with it. We never

3272
03:26:28,980 --> 03:26:33,570
really legislated on it on a
federal level. And now we need

3273
03:26:33,570 --> 03:26:38,700
to as a movement as a country
make the Congress and the Senate

3274
03:26:38,820 --> 03:26:44,250
deal with new gun laws. We just
had ministers do a big rally and

3275
03:26:44,250 --> 03:26:50,040
privilege in Brunswick, Georgia
around the case of a mod up. Now

3276
03:26:50,040 --> 03:26:53,610
I'm going back to join the
family there this weekend, I

3277
03:26:53,610 --> 03:26:59,190
would be concerned of having a
privilege which somebody come

3278
03:26:59,190 --> 03:27:03,780
they're saying coming to defend
something. And if they can get

3279
03:27:03,780 --> 03:27:08,100
in an altercation with somebody
on the side of verbal

3280
03:27:08,100 --> 03:27:13,290
altercation, you could take out
a gun, an AR 15 And that can

3281
03:27:13,290 --> 03:27:18,930
shoot somebody under real
threat. We are in my opinion, we

3282
03:27:18,930 --> 03:27:23,700
are mandated to try to make law
man did not do that would stand

3283
03:27:23,700 --> 03:27:28,890
your ground. We must make very
clear laws to protect all.

3284
03:27:31,170 --> 03:27:34,530
Whoo, there it is everybody.

3285
03:27:35,700 --> 03:27:39,960
I know we're both right. It's
the sight out. And the purpose

3286
03:27:39,960 --> 03:27:42,840
for the SIOP is to take our guns
away from

3287
03:27:42,900 --> 03:27:48,120
very unique what you've done.
You know, my my actual skill is

3288
03:27:48,120 --> 03:27:52,230
deconstructing news almost as it
happens the next day, you know,

3289
03:27:52,230 --> 03:27:58,980
or within within days. The gun
legislation was obvious at the

3290
03:27:58,980 --> 03:28:02,790
surface with things like across
state lines, the way you did

3291
03:28:02,790 --> 03:28:08,220
this today, but also weaving in
the two tiered justice system of

3292
03:28:08,220 --> 03:28:13,350
money, no money, outstanding
five star review on real on

3293
03:28:13,350 --> 03:28:19,560
Yelp. And you graduate, you're
now detective of Law and Order

3294
03:28:19,560 --> 03:28:20,190
Special

3295
03:28:20,730 --> 03:28:25,710
had to lean on my, my a lot of
Law Order degree from SVU. But

3296
03:28:25,710 --> 03:28:29,910
it carried me through the show.
And the thing was, I don't want

3297
03:28:29,910 --> 03:28:32,790
people to be triggered. I don't
want people to be you know,

3298
03:28:32,790 --> 03:28:41,910
saying doom and gloom and out.
If you if you have guns, and you

3299
03:28:41,910 --> 03:28:45,660
have access to make money, then
you can enjoy America for what

3300
03:28:45,660 --> 03:28:48,990
it's meant to be. And that's the
real control mechanisms of how

3301
03:28:48,990 --> 03:28:54,210
they really try to destabilize
us. And like I said, we they

3302
03:28:54,210 --> 03:28:58,020
start with us. I have to stress
that point to people. They

3303
03:28:58,410 --> 03:29:02,700
always start with us. It's
always gonna roll downhill so we

3304
03:29:02,700 --> 03:29:08,370
have to point these things out
and I'm in for the 40% and pray

3305
03:29:08,370 --> 03:29:09,690
for the 30% don't get it.

3306
03:29:10,200 --> 03:29:14,490
Mo Thank you very much for this
outstanding episode everybody.

3307
03:29:14,730 --> 03:29:18,720
Please remember to support us go
to moe facts.com Or go fund

3308
03:29:18,720 --> 03:29:21,690
me.com And I look forward to the
Lost Tapes mo

3309
03:29:22,590 --> 03:29:25,620
it's definitely going to be some
great stuff there. But as I

3310
03:29:25,620 --> 03:29:29,190
always say pay attention to
everything and the true reveal

3311
03:29:29,190 --> 03:29:29,580
itself.

3312
03:29:29,610 --> 03:29:32,220
We'll see you next time right
here on mo Fox with Adam curry

3313
03:29:32,220 --> 03:30:48,840
CMO is the lead when I used to
play girls When I used to see a

3314
03:30:48,840 --> 03:30:49,620
coach