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It's Moe Factz with Adam Curry
for September 29 2021 it's

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Episode Number 67 I'm Adam Curry
here in the hearts of Texas Hill

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Country my friend on the other
end somewhere in Northern

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Virginia ladies and gentlemen
Mr. Moe facts

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I don't have them

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great mo How are you?

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I'm doing well

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we have new gear today so bear
with me if I have no idea how

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everything's gonna go just
trying to make it all work we're

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growing and growing yeah we're
trying to be better every single

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day doing everything we can I'm
good to hear it man How's that?

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How's the 14 day period been? I
missed your live so tell me how

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that's

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all the labs are great um, if
you're not here in the lives

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then you are missing a large
component of the show. Yeah, I

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will say that I saw

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the I saw the announcement which
you had a cool was secondary

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line to it there What was it?
Tell me what it said. Oh,

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it's the internet's the
interactive newsletter

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get those interactive newsletter
or something the last tapes? Was

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it the lost tapes or saw

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that's the name that's the name
of it. That's the name of the

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product. The last tape yo we go
over the clips that don't make

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the show we go over visual aids
don't make the show. He was the

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the Obama pics gate. Yes, we
have people sending lost

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screenshots and things of that
nature. So if you're missing the

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last tapes, which is the
interactive newsletter that

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complements the show so well. So
yeah, check it out on YouTube.

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And when for I think moving
forward, we're going to first

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drop it on YouTube. Is that the
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That's the plan. What we want to
do is have it every Wednesday at

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eight o'clock, you get something
new from the show, whether it's

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a new episode, our FSA, kiss the
episode of lost tapes, which is

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like this laugh.

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So every single Wednesday,
there's basically something

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going on. Something's going on
eight o'clock. pm, Eastern

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Standard, beautiful. Alright,
everybody, it's episode number

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67. Let's see. We'll get to the
topic for today. Spin that wheel

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of topics round and round. It
goes where it stops. Nobody

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knows. Mofaz knows, of course,
because he put it together. The

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topic for Episode Number 67

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is the extremist ideology of Q
anon has captured the minds and

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imaginations of 10s of millions
of Americans.

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Okay, conspiracy. Gotta love it.

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Or is it? Yeah.

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Well, that's kind of, it's what
I read the other day, it was a

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great line, someone said, it's
not a conspiracy. It's an actual

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criminal conspiracy. I love
stuff like that. I love it.

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So what we're going to do is
talk about the effects of q1 on

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other misleading or misguiding
efforts to take people into

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binary thinking. So that's gonna
be the theme of the show is

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binary thinking how harmful it
is, um,

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yeah, I was reading something
the other day was, is it a

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conspiracy theory? Or is that an
actual criminal conspiracy?

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So what we're going to look at
is the effects of binary

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thinking and the harmful effects
of binary thinking. And we're

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going to look at through the
lens of Q anon, and other

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alleged government inspired
honeypots I guess you would call

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it or effort.

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All right. So that could be
against that could be an 18 hour

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show? I think it could, but

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for the listeners, for the
producers. So what I want to do

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is get into this new york times
opinion about why we shouldn't

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call it the Capitol, right?
writers terrorist

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witness yesterday was not
dissent. They weren't

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protesters. They were a riotous
mob, insurrection, domestic

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terrorists.

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We don't have a domestic
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law. We don't have any of the
tools to battle domestic

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terrorism.

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I think it's time that we had a
domestic terrorism statute,

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that people who thought the
Capitol definitely needs to face

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consequences. They're filled
with hate. But we should not

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call them terrorists and we
should not pass you anti

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terrorism laws. Funny. In 2005,
I was 16 years old, my apartment

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was raided by the NYPD Terrorism
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the blankets off my head. My
father and I were detained and

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put in handcuffs the government
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potential suicide bomber. Oh, I
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depression, fear, anger. I
didn't do anything wrong, and I

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was still treated as a criminal.
I was honestly just a 16 year

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old, typical six year old, my
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were awesome. I was in a boy
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I've heard so many stories I've
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is insane.

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So this is our ma ba. And as she
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they stormed her family's Harlem
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be an important part in this
show. Just keep dispel that word

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away. But even she was a victim
of a lesbian alleged terrorists.

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She wants to empathize and not
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She's human well, and then she
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of, you know, it's, she's doing
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yeah, rice is only um, she said
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backfire on innocent black and
brown people, which I can't

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disagree with her. But it's a
true, it's like one of the

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things two things can be true.
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terrorists, because when you
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group, like I said, they're
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everybody get hit on with that
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premises of the show.

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Well, also, the definition of
terrorism has some very specific

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elements, you know, get it for
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Was it political gain? Yeah,

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I think it has to be. Yeah,

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it's the key key part is for
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I thought we'll open up with
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maybe go through some things
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that's what's similar to what's
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whole swaps or groups as alleged
terrorists, yes. And how it

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backfires on people? Um, any any
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well, very, very loaded there.
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along, let's let's see, let's
see where we where we wind up

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as a teaser. We'll get into one
of your favorite warehouses the

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six week cycle so. So I guess
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clip number three.

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When I hear people say when you
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need to make new laws, it's an
insult to me, because for some

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reason, they found the laws to
detain me and accuse me of

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terrorism. And these people
essentially passed the most

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secured building in the country.
Just fine. History shows that

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have an anti terrorism laws just
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Timothy McVeigh, and Terry
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with a grudge against the
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after the Oklahoma City bombing,
President Clinton passed the law

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given the FBI more power to go
after terrorists. The law didn't

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go after people that look like
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From now on, we can quickly
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America and support terrorist
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The same thing happened with the
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shootings at school were mostly
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the shooting, police presence
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schools. I want to call these
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capital terrorists, but calling
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enforcement and other elected
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peaceful protesters, terrorists,
people that look like me who are

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brown, Muslim, black, those are
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actually be punished. We don't
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terrorists. The laws are there.
Whether you want to apply to

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certain people or not.

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This is the same young lady.
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No, she was 16 when they raided
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Right. I think she's maybe in
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Okay, still? Yeah, I know a lot
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to intelligently about these
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I did a poor setup on the show.
So let me rewind back. Like what

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is he talking about the Q anon
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news that came about with who
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6, yes, yeah. Yes. And reported
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from New York. Time to set this
up. Yes. And to repeat on

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September 18. Recently, that of
course, exactly right. So those

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were those two occurrences. That
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lay it out. And I've been saying
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you start pointing the finger
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gonna blow back on everybody,
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blame it. Um, blame everybody
with that label. And what people

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may not know is when they hit
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your rights go away.

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yeah, so that's, that's why it's
a big pet peeve of mine when

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people throw that word around.
Yeah, um, so loosely. So what we

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got to do now is, we got to go
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that was bi E. Bay. And we this
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about the black identity
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On August 3 2017, the FBI
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extremists assessment using the
Dallas 2016 shooting, and five

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other unrelated attacks on
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this movement exists.

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Black identity extremists are
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threat by the FBI.

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According to the FBI assessment,
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terrorists would target law
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retaliation for perceived police
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Americans. Definitely to the
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as a domestic terror
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justify any invasive
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monitoring these targeted
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Yeah, this actually goes back I
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goes back to post 911 actually,
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during President Obama's time in
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Authorization Act came out and
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of it was it was domestic it
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it was they had all kinds of
weird terms and it's really easy

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to call anybody that and that
meant that they could roast you

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know, black black bag and take
it to Guantanamo even if they

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want to

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or surveil you any kind of
manner manners that kind of

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circumvent your rights. And what
I find most dangerous is the

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label of conspiracy theories you
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list which I've always
identified myself as a

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conspiracy analyst Yes, I don't
create a theory for anybody out

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there listening I just only
analyze them that's right um, we

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were very dangerous times. I
don't want to be alarmist but

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now let's just stop Of course
just I mean I get every day 15

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emails from people who because
of their government to have to

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leave their job you know that by
itself forget calling someone a

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domestic terrorist. That's the
power that is now on the table.

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It's out of control.

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It definitely is and I can
always say it starts with us so

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no one stood up and when they
was the one that's labor around

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now I have some questions about
this a gorilla mainframe the

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name of it how vice covered it
just in the way this whole piece

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was set up by Vice I found it
troubling and please go listen

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this episode 31 it was some
fascinating things on there

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about the the shooters that
expired this label down in Baton

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Rouge Baton Rouge in Dallas with
gang stalking and those kinds of

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things um, it is the only thing
I can say is this is surreal I

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don't think we felt like this
and not 11 because it was an

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earthen dam kind of thing you
know it was like do what you

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need to do and no it's partly to
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now it's us us and our neighbor
and what it's could be anybody

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that's I think that's the point
I mean I I've become very

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cynical now. I just think oh
this has got to be purposeful

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This is not a mistake anymore.

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Yeah. And as you said people are
losing their jobs every day and

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will that inspire people to take
action? I don't want to put that

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out in the universe but just it
definitely can be some weird

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things are happening I'm looking
at Tennessee I'm still do my

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homework on that one, but it's
some definite raw material they

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can use the lock down even more
own question authority. And and

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I have a real issue with that
because I've been following this

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for a long time. So let's go and
get to that second throwback

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clip from this piece, and we'll
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There's this perception that the
government promotes that we are

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in a stage of critical emergency
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they get more power, and in
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need to find more terrorists.
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the most outspoken critics of
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assessment is Michael German, a
former FBI agent who did

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undercover work on white
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militias in the 90s. He's now a
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for Justice. What incentive? Do
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make a label like black identity
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a person cannot be targeted for
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first amendment activity. So by
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extremism movement, they can use
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then target any activists who
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protesting police violence. One
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intelligence report is these are
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that they try to mold into a
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nothing connecting them except
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officers in the fact that they
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remember some clips when you go
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okay. A lot of them. I do
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Yeah, so that was it. It's just
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you're just a single person. But
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group and give you a name, now
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now now we're cooking and then
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in our connected world, um,
social media and whatnot, they

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might look at your fault. I
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following everybody back that
follows me. And could that

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possibly be an issue down the
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so and so so and so let's throw
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find it very troubling. But this
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previous to your show. Okay.
When I used to listen, when I

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first listened, no agenda now.
Now we can discuss the six week

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cycle. Okay, yes, we use when we
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started talking about that. It
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talking about when I first heard
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that's like the Newburgh thing.
Right. Have you ever heard of

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the Newburgh thing?

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No, I don't think so. What is
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It's gonna be a perfect example
what the six week cycle is, it

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was an HBO documentary on
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this may be 2000. And I want to
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remember the year exactly when I
saw it. But I was like, it blew

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it blew my mind because I was
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know these things. We know
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she'll explain that the six week
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So the six week cycle was told
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someone, let's just say intimate
with the, with the FBI,

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certainly with the Dallas
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concept is, the FBI for quite a
while, every six weeks had to

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have some kind of event taking
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means for existence. And that
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what they do. And if you read
the affidavits, every single

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time there's some bozo who want
to blow something up. It turns

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out that the FBI was talking to
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confidential informant or
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them up, you know, egging them
on text messaging, oh, you know,

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wouldn't you want to blow
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them out, get weaponry, and then
they give them the van and they

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put help them put the stuff in
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bogus remote control and doesn't
work and they arrest him, and

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then they've saved the day. And
then six weeks from now, rinse,

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repeat, and do it all over
again. And that is the case with

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so many of the FBI, big
announcements. It's like, What

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are you talking about? You guys
totally set that up.

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And let's humanize the FBI right
quick. So,

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okay, that's hard. That's hard.
That's hard. Okay.

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There's no reason why I'm saying
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faith. We say, well, we have a
gut feeling that these people

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are bad. So before they do
something bad, let's be

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proactive now and walk them into
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that. Because as we said in The
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someone's rights, even if it's
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win.

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Oh, no, no, I mean, it's
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they should be doing is saying,
hey, son, you seem a little

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radicalized. You know, cut that
shit out. Maybe you should talk

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to somebody, we've got our eye
on you. Instead, they absolutely

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egg them on. It's one of the
most disgusting things and no

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one ever discusses it. I guess
mainstream never looked at the

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affidavits. I mean, it's all
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We'll get your barf bag and
going all right.

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Welcome back. A new documentary
premiered on HBO this week

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called the Newburgh sting. Now
it focuses on the FBI

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investigation and conviction of
four men from Newburgh, New York

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for plotting an act of domestic
terrorism but was this thing

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really a setup and were the men
more guilty of simple greed and

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idiocy than actual terrorism?
Now I spoke with CO director

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David heilbroner about his
findings. I remember covering

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this story at the time and I
remember what seemed to be an

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endless amount of squad cars,
the SWAT teams the aerial

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footage and at the time, it was
Exhibit A and busting up a

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terror ring and no politician
within an area code couldn't

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afford to get in front of the
cameras to talk about how they

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just busted up an imminent
threat at the time but the more

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you read into it I remember at
the time you starting to say

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yourself Wait a second. What is
the game that could shoot

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straight now you look at it
exactly.

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Wait a minute what those the
guys who couldn't do anything?

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Yeah. So when I heard you first
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yeah. This is what popped into
my head and new Berg's thing and

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it was right exactly so even
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it's what we see now. A lot of
those people at one six I know

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people I know right now people
are rolling their eyes like why

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is he trying to humanize because
it's gonna happen to both sides

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these things don't happen in a
vacuum is gonna happen we saw

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Black Eyed bi E's came first.
Now is why identity extremists

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deviant deviant What does that
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domestic violent extremist.

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Okay, so as a Friday just go out
and go all out for the white

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army but that will probably be

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well it'll be it's just it's
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be white.

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That's interesting. I didn't go
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I'm

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not yet there's always there's
always this time left I'm sure.

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Well, domestic opens up I mean,
domestic opens up to any

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nationalists. Yeah. So I mean,
no matter no matter of race. Um,

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so I guess that's why they went
that route, but soon there's

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gonna be medical extremists. Us
and there's gonna be no

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religious extremists. Those
kinds of things. So

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well, we already have anti
vaxxers. Which, yeah, sure.

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There's some real people who are
absolutely anti vaxxers. But

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people who just don't want this
vaccination doesn't mean they're

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anti Vax. But that's, I mean,
our president is saying that our

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Vice President is saying that
it's the same it's the same

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thing, it's just as bad.

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And it's two problems I have
with that one. It's not a

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vaccine. So every time we say
that, it it irks me, too. I

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can't be anti vaccine if my kids
got their school that's two

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shots. So I mean that that in
itself is a problem right? Three

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well I said two things but the
third one is your your natural

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immunity. Exactly. If I have
natural immunity, that it made

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me any vaccine that just thinks
my body is superior to something

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or something that drug company
can give me but I don't want to

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get on a tangent but I'm just
saying this is a very dangerous

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slope is except the group thing.
Or you know, get ran over but

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let me get to my issue of binary
thinking before we continue on

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okay. I think this is how they
programmed society. You're a

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computer whiz um, you program
computers with ones and zeros?

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Yeah. They need people own
binary Are you pro there sir?

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anti this you know if that's it,
there's no nuance there's no

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room for any Yeah, it's Black
Widow grants black,

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white, red, blue, pro anti
right,

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that their programming society.
And to do that you they can't

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have you come and have a nuanced
conversation, because that gets

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into fuzzy logic. Yeah, no

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haves no have Z's or anything
like that. You can't do that. No

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decimal points.

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Of course not. Because you know
why? And when we're gonna go,

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we're gonna go there early
today. If you're trying to

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automate everything, computers
can't handle that AI can't

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handle that. They need you to be
binary so they can replace you.

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I'm gonna say that again. Yeah,

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roll that by me one more time.

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They need you to be binaries so
they can replace you. I computer

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struggles with nuance. That's
why AI is so far behind the

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human mind. It's because the
human mind can look at something

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and see shades of gray. They
need us to be ones and zeros. So

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that that point will become this
is this is when we merge with

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machines. When we lose that
ability logic,

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let me just know a little bit of
conspiracy therapy on both of us

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here. Okay. Have you seen the
Spartacus letter? No, I haven't.

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The Spartacus letter went out
yesterday. It's a PDF. I think

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the PDF is already deleted from
the Google Drive or whatever.

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But it's posted everywhere. And
it's a group of people and they

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lay out and there's like, We're
a group, you know, we're

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doctors, all this stuff. I think
they're also clearly lawyers.

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And you just call a Spartacus
and we're so sick and tired of

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this. And they in this whole
thing runs down everything about

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the flu, about the lab, but but
really detailed, and I know

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enough about the the non
technical medical stuff, and

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I've read enough of the medical
stuff that you know, it's

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obviously serious, and you know,
I can only debunk what I know,

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but at a certain point, they
talk about the gain of function

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research, because actually, this
paper says the vaccine and the

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virus were created by the same
people. And the Peter it was eco

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Health Alliance, or whatever,
Peter datsik. And they hired

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some other mofos. Bottom line is
that guy who was responsible for

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a large part of the mRNA vaccine
for Madonna or bio and tech, he,

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he is deeply involved with
another company, which is

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literally interfacing wire
electrodes onto the brain, the

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same stuff Ilan Musk is doing
only I think these guys are

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actually a little bit further,

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right. So instead of stepping up
their technology they dumbed

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down to human to binary
decisions or or prepared

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prepared the human with an
interface. I mean, if it's true,

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some of the stuff I've been
reading, if any of that is true,

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like the graphene oxide, I mean,
it sounds like a huge conspiracy

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theory, everybody. But you know,
you know what,

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if you want to merge a human
brain computer, it's only two

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choices, the way they
communicate with each other.

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Well, I know,

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hold on, unless it's quantum. If
it's quantum that changes, but

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that's neither here nor there.
Your point is binary is

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easier. It's easy to make people
dumber. smarter. That's what

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they're banking on. It's like,
Oh, yeah, you're saying it's

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dumbed down the human brain to
binary ones and zeros. And then

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when we merge them with
computers, or I mean, we're not

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what I'm saying merging with
computers. That's even nudging

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I'm not even I'm not even
talking to the to the whole

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transhumanism thing yet. I'm
just saying when you want to

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control society, is making
notice the things that give us

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Do you watch the back of your
dish? Or no? Do you know do you

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wash your legs? Or no, I mean,
local news is full of these Yes.

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And no poll questions, right?
That, you know, that are

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programming us to thinking yes
or no circumstances and not

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like, Well, let me let me think
about it for a minute. Well, it

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can be nuanced that conversate
No, no, they don't want that.

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But we'll be here for all night,
if that's what this is. This is

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the premise of this show, is to
combat against binary thinking,

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and we're going somewhere. But
let's get back to the new birth

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thing to

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now you look at it in this film,
and I want to play the first

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clip about what the original
intentions of the group were.

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And then you can give us some
context on if this clip is again

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from some of the participants
early on in the process, and

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just how far they were willing
to go at that point. Let's play

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00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:32,940
the first clip.

445
00:28:37,380 --> 00:28:41,490
David Williams comes in. And
Shahad Hussain says, Let's go to

446
00:28:41,490 --> 00:28:43,560
the airport at Stewart Air Force
Base. So they drive up to the

447
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:47,040
airport and they look at the
planes stood Air Force Base is

448
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:50,010
the base that sends your
National Guard and National

449
00:28:50,010 --> 00:28:54,840
Guard troops at the time over to
Iraq and Afghanistan. And Shahad

450
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:58,980
Hussein says we should blow up
one of these. How do you blow up

451
00:28:58,980 --> 00:29:01,560
one of these? Well, I can get
you a message help

452
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:05,580
us out give a little context.
The informant that we're tying

453
00:29:05,580 --> 00:29:10,590
Mr. sain here, he went out of
his way to recruit these guys

454
00:29:10,650 --> 00:29:13,920
give an idea if you could for
our audience where he found them

455
00:29:14,130 --> 00:29:18,090
and how this quickly began an
idea of Alright, let's try and

456
00:29:18,090 --> 00:29:21,090
destroy property into obviously
what we saw on that arrest of

457
00:29:21,300 --> 00:29:22,530
may 2009.

458
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:26,280
sure of it. Let me set the scene
right off the bat, which is this

459
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:28,410
took place in the town of
Newburgh, New York, and I don't

460
00:29:28,410 --> 00:29:30,330
know how many of your viewers
know Newberg, but it's an

461
00:29:30,330 --> 00:29:35,130
impoverished town. Probably 30%
unemployment. Most of the houses

462
00:29:35,130 --> 00:29:37,950
are boarded up. It's someone
once referred to as Camden, New

463
00:29:37,950 --> 00:29:43,080
Jersey on the Hudson. And into
this destitute community comes a

464
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:46,440
man who's on the FBI payroll,
who's on the lam. He himself is

465
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:50,820
on the lam from committing fraud
at a DMV office in Albany, and

466
00:29:50,820 --> 00:29:53,730
the FBI says to him if you can
bring us terrorists. Yeah, we'll

467
00:29:53,730 --> 00:29:55,770
pay you and if you can get
convictions, we'll give you a

468
00:29:55,770 --> 00:29:56,190
bonus.

469
00:29:56,310 --> 00:30:00,330
Oh, there you go. This guy man.
This guy's a great this bring it

470
00:30:00,330 --> 00:30:00,660
bring them

471
00:30:00,660 --> 00:30:06,240
on in you can refer a friend to
terrorism and you get 50 bucks I

472
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:10,710
mean what a bargain but reason
why I'm bringing people like why

473
00:30:10,710 --> 00:30:15,570
are you going back because we
all were victim to this around

474
00:30:15,570 --> 00:30:18,540
911 it's like go kill brown
people yeah they crashed our

475
00:30:18,540 --> 00:30:22,980
buildings no I mean nobody stood
up because we were given a

476
00:30:22,980 --> 00:30:26,370
binary decision right either if
you question you're not a

477
00:30:26,370 --> 00:30:29,280
patriot that was the key thing
that you're not a patriot you're

478
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:32,640
not a patriot right you know and
you people were scared to even

479
00:30:32,670 --> 00:30:35,850
like why are we in Iraq if all
you're you're not a patriot? Are

480
00:30:35,850 --> 00:30:42,330
you one of them? And that's we
were there and everybody got

481
00:30:42,330 --> 00:30:46,650
caught up in nobody and when I
say everybody I mean the people

482
00:30:46,650 --> 00:30:53,040
that had a voice to stand up um
you saw all the you know, yeah,

483
00:30:53,220 --> 00:30:56,250
that's when the jet started
flying over football stadiums

484
00:30:56,250 --> 00:31:00,210
and Oh yeah, we became this
militaristic you know juggernaut

485
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:04,320
well we kind of already who were
a militaristic juggernaut but oh

486
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:10,920
yeah and but it was also I've
been around long enough that's

487
00:31:10,950 --> 00:31:15,360
that's how America tries to heal
and and I think that was the

488
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:19,080
last time that will ever ever
work and it didn't really work

489
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,600
that long either you know
there's so much coming out

490
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:28,140
people remember the all the lies
and it's in an odd way you know

491
00:31:28,140 --> 00:31:31,740
yeah it's good because we have
to recognize what the truth is

492
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:38,520
but you know it's so uniquely
American The bombs bursting in

493
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:42,840
air the jets flying by you know
salute our troops it's it's

494
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,540
that's the that's the psychosis
of our culture

495
00:31:47,070 --> 00:31:50,040
well we didn't have a we didn't
have a real enemy then though

496
00:31:50,610 --> 00:31:53,610
that's what I'm what are we try
No no no we're happy

497
00:31:53,790 --> 00:31:57,240
yeah we were still still vibing
on World War Two I mean let's

498
00:31:57,270 --> 00:32:00,780
let's not let's overlook Vietnam
etc let's not take a look at

499
00:32:00,780 --> 00:32:02,130
anything that happened there
Korean War

500
00:32:02,580 --> 00:32:07,260
yeah cuz that was that was not a
voluntary war for a lot of

501
00:32:07,260 --> 00:32:11,070
people to fall in so that's
that's why it's kind of I mean

502
00:32:11,070 --> 00:32:14,370
that's kind of tainted Vietnam
warriors for you know America

503
00:32:14,370 --> 00:32:17,580
we also we also didn't win
anything we sucked everybody

504
00:32:17,580 --> 00:32:21,360
lost in that the world war two
at least we could claim victory

505
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:24,360
and you know, we save the world
and you know, Hey, no problem

506
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,700
world. We're cool is we're
America.

507
00:32:27,210 --> 00:32:31,740
And then the first day the storm
was over so fast. Um, yeah. We

508
00:32:31,740 --> 00:32:35,730
had to create like the, like the
generals for the Harlem

509
00:32:35,730 --> 00:32:41,850
Globetrotters. Right. You know,
okay. Yeah, that's what

510
00:32:41,850 --> 00:32:46,770
happened. And we all got caught
up in it. Seriously in this,

511
00:32:47,010 --> 00:32:49,980
remember the yellow ribbons and
those kind of things, and it's,

512
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,050
and there's nothing against the
truth. And that's not what I'm

513
00:32:52,050 --> 00:32:56,340
saying. What I'm saying is we
got caught up in revenge, and

514
00:32:56,340 --> 00:33:00,450
somebody had to pay and somebody
had to be to blame that when

515
00:33:00,450 --> 00:33:04,020
things like the Newberg thing
happened. Nobody questioned it.

516
00:33:04,170 --> 00:33:06,990
Um, it was Oh, yeah, they're all
Mandy right at home. They're

517
00:33:06,990 --> 00:33:10,380
right there right next door.
Yeah, you know, I'll get Give,

518
00:33:10,380 --> 00:33:14,760
give her apparatus more money.
And we're more power. And now

519
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,040
what I'm saying is, I'm drawing
a parallel to what's going on

520
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:25,740
now. Will you look at what
happened January 6. Trust me,

521
00:33:26,220 --> 00:33:30,000
it's, it's a it's a threat to be
worried about, and they weren't

522
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:31,860
in there that day. I'm just
gonna say it like,

523
00:33:32,250 --> 00:33:38,070
Oh, absolutely. I mean, the I
don't know if I'm moving ahead

524
00:33:38,070 --> 00:33:41,520
of anything. But now the leader
of the oathkeepers. He's not

525
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,430
even named in any indictment.
He's just person number one,

526
00:33:44,430 --> 00:33:47,610
even though he clearly should be
indicted along with everybody

527
00:33:47,610 --> 00:33:53,130
else under the same, you know,
equal, equal handling. And he's

528
00:33:53,130 --> 00:33:57,060
not, you know, and the FBI is
even as far as I know, I've even

529
00:33:57,090 --> 00:34:00,270
admitted that. Well, you know,
there was at least 12, maybe

530
00:34:00,270 --> 00:34:04,110
more. We're not going to
prosecute anybody over there

531
00:34:04,110 --> 00:34:06,540
from that group, just in case,
you know, turns out bad that it

532
00:34:06,540 --> 00:34:10,800
was FBI and yeah, there's all
kinds of this. There's a lot of

533
00:34:10,860 --> 00:34:15,330
circumstantial and video
evidence of the FBI being

534
00:34:18,270 --> 00:34:19,800
Anjouan provocateurs,

535
00:34:20,340 --> 00:34:23,190
and this wouldn't have been a
show, but I think you said a

536
00:34:23,190 --> 00:34:26,310
September 18 I don't remember
the date. The one that happened

537
00:34:26,310 --> 00:34:30,810
recently. Yeah, yeah. That means
immediate frustration with the

538
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:35,400
show up with me got to the point
is like he got to the point

539
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,370
where, oh, y'all are scared,
huh? Yeah, y'all are scared. Oh,

540
00:34:38,370 --> 00:34:41,850
yeah. No, like, you know how you
bully try to provoke you. It's

541
00:34:41,850 --> 00:34:43,740
like, Oh, yeah, you're scared to
come out of your house, you

542
00:34:43,740 --> 00:34:46,560
know, that kind of thing. So
they were the media was really

543
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:49,890
aggravated that nobody showed
up. And the one guy that got

544
00:34:49,890 --> 00:34:51,540
arrested, was

545
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:56,010
he had a gun in his back. Did
you see the picture of like

546
00:34:56,010 --> 00:34:59,190
those five guys standing around
all dressed identical, same

547
00:34:59,190 --> 00:35:02,610
hair. You know, obvious bulge in
their pants where they got a

548
00:35:02,610 --> 00:35:06,780
small Glock, who told him total
left his same watches Oh, Okay

549
00:35:06,780 --> 00:35:07,350
boys.

550
00:35:08,519 --> 00:35:11,279
And we've seen the same thing in
Afghanistan I saw a picture that

551
00:35:11,279 --> 00:35:14,819
with, it was like three guys
walking in like one guy had

552
00:35:14,819 --> 00:35:17,519
perfect trigger or winch
control. And like,

553
00:35:18,089 --> 00:35:20,609
the new Taliban Yeah, the new
Taliban is all indexing

554
00:35:20,609 --> 00:35:23,129
properly. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's
the new guys. They know how to

555
00:35:23,129 --> 00:35:25,799
do it all of a sudden, you know,
it's it's didn't take much

556
00:35:25,799 --> 00:35:27,779
training, they just figured it
out. Good to go.

557
00:35:28,289 --> 00:35:31,109
So I'm just saying we're seeing
all this but I think that people

558
00:35:31,109 --> 00:35:33,959
are wising up to it. And it's
frustrating the media because

559
00:35:33,959 --> 00:35:38,759
they don't have the power that
they used to. Because if you had

560
00:35:38,759 --> 00:35:42,209
to alternate and I hate that
word with the media, or the

561
00:35:42,209 --> 00:35:46,469
alternative media or not
mainstream media, then it would

562
00:35:46,469 --> 00:35:51,239
be quickly called out. Oh, yeah.
But they're being derailed by

563
00:35:51,269 --> 00:35:54,479
another narrative, and they're
throwing a tantrum, which

564
00:35:54,479 --> 00:35:58,439
worries me that worries me more
than anything because when they

565
00:35:58,439 --> 00:36:02,729
start to throw attention is very
problematic. So I guess we can

566
00:36:02,729 --> 00:36:05,009
get to the third new neuberg
clip.

567
00:36:05,700 --> 00:36:08,100
So this man is Shahid Hussain,
and he comes to Newburgh,

568
00:36:08,220 --> 00:36:11,250
looking for terrorists, and he
spends months hanging out at the

569
00:36:11,250 --> 00:36:14,730
local mosque not finding any
buddy. Until one day he crosses

570
00:36:14,730 --> 00:36:20,130
the path of the local blowhard.
James comedy comedy is a low

571
00:36:20,130 --> 00:36:23,910
level marijuana dealer whose
only means of employment is he's

572
00:36:23,910 --> 00:36:28,560
a night clerk at Walmart makes
about $14,000 a year and

573
00:36:28,770 --> 00:36:31,020
probably will say anything
crummy brag to your head, you

574
00:36:31,020 --> 00:36:33,420
sane about blowing up police
stations, he bragged about

575
00:36:33,420 --> 00:36:36,030
committing murders, none of
which he did if the FBI had

576
00:36:36,030 --> 00:36:40,020
bothered to check, they would
see that the guy is just you

577
00:36:40,020 --> 00:36:42,450
know, he's like Jackie Gleason
from The Honeymooners. If that

578
00:36:42,450 --> 00:36:45,750
needs to be a little bit, but
he's a big talker, but she hated

579
00:36:45,750 --> 00:36:48,660
saying, hey, I've got someone
who might actually go along with

580
00:36:48,660 --> 00:36:52,860
us. So Hussein pursues comedy
for months and says we need more

581
00:36:52,860 --> 00:36:55,440
people. We need more bodies.
Come on, let's get a conspiracy

582
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:59,310
going. Crowley can't find
anybody. And Hussein eventually

583
00:36:59,310 --> 00:37:02,790
when comedy just crapped out on
him nothing nothing seems to be

584
00:37:02,790 --> 00:37:06,540
happening. Hussein says listen I
can get you $250,000 we can take

585
00:37:06,540 --> 00:37:09,210
trips all over the country when
this is done I can get you cars

586
00:37:09,210 --> 00:37:12,180
I can buy you a barbershop. You
know, James Crombie all of a

587
00:37:12,180 --> 00:37:16,290
sudden gets really interested
and brings in three guys from

588
00:37:16,290 --> 00:37:16,830
New burns.

589
00:37:17,099 --> 00:37:22,739
First of all 250 grand usually
informants are authorized up to

590
00:37:22,739 --> 00:37:27,239
$5,000 so how all of a sudden
you know he did multiple 50

591
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:29,969
times this I guess is part of
the question he said that was

592
00:37:29,969 --> 00:37:32,789
code I never figured that one
out throughout the process but

593
00:37:33,059 --> 00:37:36,689
it also turns out that Hussein
didn't record everything so at

594
00:37:36,689 --> 00:37:40,619
the end of the day those blanks
in this really have to be filled

595
00:37:40,619 --> 00:37:43,799
in by the Fed so in effect take
Hussein's word for it

596
00:37:44,490 --> 00:37:47,850
I can't believe I missed this
whole thing never heard of this

597
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,280
Oh, and I forgot to tell you
they were all black guys.

598
00:37:50,879 --> 00:37:53,369
Oh no, I think I figured that of
course you know,

599
00:37:53,789 --> 00:37:57,989
I'm saying so but that's that's
the weird thing about it was it

600
00:37:57,989 --> 00:38:00,659
didn't get the media coverage at
all I think it was I think it

601
00:38:00,659 --> 00:38:05,699
was so poorly put together that
they were like take our wind and

602
00:38:05,699 --> 00:38:06,179
go home

603
00:38:06,180 --> 00:38:09,450
I was like hey, we need a
conspiracy here let's cook one

604
00:38:09,450 --> 00:38:10,560
up brother's got to do it.

605
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:16,110
So it's just fascinating that
like I said, You're you you blew

606
00:38:16,110 --> 00:38:19,230
my mind when I first heard about
six weeks ago but I hadn't knew

607
00:38:19,230 --> 00:38:23,370
about this story and I knew
about past history that we're

608
00:38:23,370 --> 00:38:27,570
going to get into a little later
of events like this happening

609
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:35,250
that issues if a man is a scary
what it is that you can go into

610
00:38:35,250 --> 00:38:38,370
poor neighborhoods and throw
around a quarter million dollars

611
00:38:38,370 --> 00:38:42,060
to a god it makes $14,000 a year
and you don't think he's going

612
00:38:42,060 --> 00:38:45,930
to bite on it even if even if
he's a teaches a lie. I was

613
00:38:45,930 --> 00:38:48,480
gonna say what you got me. You
got me.

614
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:51,810
It's better than podcasting. I
mean, come on. It's like, yeah,

615
00:38:51,810 --> 00:38:53,310
you get anyone's attention.

616
00:38:54,390 --> 00:38:59,070
It's amazing. So what now we're
going to go over to the Muslim

617
00:38:59,070 --> 00:39:03,570
Public Affairs Council the
impact and make they do their

618
00:39:03,570 --> 00:39:05,460
own coverage on the Newburgh
thing.

619
00:39:05,700 --> 00:39:09,300
We have breaking news the FBI
says it has thwarted a terror

620
00:39:09,300 --> 00:39:10,170
plot we

621
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:15,030
targeted for individuals that
planned and scheme to bomb to

622
00:39:15,390 --> 00:39:18,840
Jewish facilities here in the
Bronx, and also to take down

623
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:23,670
military aircraft of at the
Stewart airport. They stated

624
00:39:23,670 --> 00:39:24,450
that they

625
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,240
wanted to commit jihad.
Prosecutors described the

626
00:39:27,240 --> 00:39:30,510
suspects as extremely violent
men who embraced every

627
00:39:30,510 --> 00:39:33,240
opportunity for terrorism.
Investigators say the four

628
00:39:33,240 --> 00:39:36,420
Muslim men met in prison and
hatch the terrorist plot at a

629
00:39:36,420 --> 00:39:37,080
local mosque.

630
00:39:37,140 --> 00:39:39,480
I remember he was sitting right
over here on that side, and

631
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:43,770
there was a chip on the table
here. And he made his statements

632
00:39:44,550 --> 00:39:48,300
that a woman should not be seen
or heard. And it was just like,

633
00:39:48,300 --> 00:39:51,030
Is this how he introduced
yourself to us? He's gonna tell

634
00:39:51,030 --> 00:39:52,920
us women should be you should
not be seen or heard.

635
00:39:54,420 --> 00:39:59,970
You would ask about jihad. you'd
ask about a holy war. I did tell

636
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:03,720
different individuals assess
stay the hell away from him.

637
00:40:03,900 --> 00:40:05,190
Somebody write about it.

638
00:40:05,700 --> 00:40:09,690
He hung around long enough to be
able to get somebody to buy and

639
00:40:09,690 --> 00:40:10,440
test by

640
00:40:12,990 --> 00:40:17,610
someone like Mr. Cromartie who
had spent his entire life in

641
00:40:17,610 --> 00:40:22,140
poverty, trying to support
himself as a very low level

642
00:40:22,140 --> 00:40:28,620
marijuana dealer, Mr. shakey
who's saying well that was a

643
00:40:28,620 --> 00:40:31,110
very big thing to him

644
00:40:31,230 --> 00:40:35,280
it was crazy all these different
news media started converging

645
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:38,520
onto the property and
automatically I knew it was

646
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:45,120
manufactured I was the first one
to say that this was entrapment

647
00:40:46,950 --> 00:40:48,390
wow this is good

648
00:40:49,500 --> 00:40:52,650
and as the media they said the
media is working hand in hand

649
00:40:52,650 --> 00:40:56,130
with these letter are these
letter a three letter agencies

650
00:40:56,220 --> 00:40:59,040
three letter three letter
agencies they're they're a you

651
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:02,430
want a good story you want to
scoop? Meet me down in Newburgh.

652
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:10,860
Roger stone, when you're in
Florida, they raided his house

653
00:41:10,860 --> 00:41:13,500
at five in the morning. And they
called CNN.

654
00:41:15,630 --> 00:41:18,540
And that's the that was the
point I made about Cosby as

655
00:41:18,540 --> 00:41:22,140
well, that when they want to
make a statement and through the

656
00:41:22,140 --> 00:41:27,630
media, these organizations work
together. Oh, yeah, I'm one if

657
00:41:27,630 --> 00:41:30,990
you make you make an enemy, then
I can report on it. So it's

658
00:41:30,990 --> 00:41:35,790
always a it's mutually
beneficial to both parties. You

659
00:41:35,790 --> 00:41:39,600
get the scoop, you know, if it
bleeds, it leads, and I get to I

660
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:43,920
get to feed the machine. The
fear machine that know begets

661
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:52,200
more fear. And I think it's I
said that if it's going on now

662
00:41:52,230 --> 00:41:59,820
then it has to be going on now.
And some dupes are out there.

663
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:06,120
Right as we speak, getting duped
again. Yeah, getting duped.

664
00:42:06,510 --> 00:42:06,990
Yeah.

665
00:42:07,020 --> 00:42:10,620
And what it also does is it
makes people fear to assemble,

666
00:42:10,950 --> 00:42:15,000
including myself. I would love
to intermingle with people. But

667
00:42:15,030 --> 00:42:18,840
as you know, you're saying I
don't do groups? I don't I'm

668
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:24,300
because I am smart enough or
paranoid enough which share what

669
00:42:24,300 --> 00:42:29,580
you want to put it. That I know,
all it takes is a snapshot with

670
00:42:29,580 --> 00:42:32,790
your arm around somebody or the
arm around you. That's all it

671
00:42:32,790 --> 00:42:36,570
takes. And and they can build a
story or narrative off of that

672
00:42:36,570 --> 00:42:39,630
image. Like oh, look at them,
you know, look at Oh, look at

673
00:42:39,630 --> 00:42:43,380
this guy look no mo facts with
this guy over here. And I don't

674
00:42:43,380 --> 00:42:48,240
know him from a campaign. But
there you have it, you know, and

675
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:52,530
you shouldn't have to live like
that. But this is the you know,

676
00:42:52,530 --> 00:42:54,360
the oppression of fear.

677
00:42:55,470 --> 00:42:59,340
Yeah, and it's and you're right,
it's for everybody. The color

678
00:42:59,340 --> 00:43:04,590
doesn't mean much. Although
DVDs, man, it's really white

679
00:43:04,590 --> 00:43:08,700
guys. There's no black people
there. Well,

680
00:43:08,730 --> 00:43:10,830
you know, I'm gonna say it like
this, if they can make Larry

681
00:43:10,860 --> 00:43:13,080
elder white, a white
supremacist. Yeah.

682
00:43:15,030 --> 00:43:18,210
He was he was the black face of
white supremacy. That was the

683
00:43:18,210 --> 00:43:20,130
line now beautiful. How

684
00:43:22,290 --> 00:43:24,960
if I can do that, and then
medius report that with a

685
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:27,330
straight face. And like I said,
I have my issue with someone who

686
00:43:27,330 --> 00:43:32,850
takes very elder has, but if
they can read it, they can make

687
00:43:32,850 --> 00:43:40,020
people believe that they can
easily make you into D DVE. So

688
00:43:40,350 --> 00:43:44,550
let's get into the final clip
from the impact. The government

689
00:43:44,550 --> 00:43:48,990
made this movie and I believe,
except I know how the movies

690
00:43:48,990 --> 00:43:54,690
made. The arrest itself was a
well staged event, I think

691
00:43:54,690 --> 00:43:58,650
Hollywood would have been quite
proud. Everything was designed

692
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:01,590
so that every newspaper in New
York could say the FBI made a

693
00:44:01,590 --> 00:44:06,390
big arrest. It's the best press
standing next to the really bad

694
00:44:06,390 --> 00:44:10,080
guy. When you caught him before
there's a crime. Everybody wants

695
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:11,670
to say, I saved America.

696
00:44:13,260 --> 00:44:16,950
The mood within the FBI after
911 was that the rules don't

697
00:44:16,950 --> 00:44:17,310
apply

698
00:44:17,310 --> 00:44:22,050
anymore. But the one message
that was clear, and for me and

699
00:44:22,050 --> 00:44:26,010
the other FBI executives at the
time it was there will be no

700
00:44:26,010 --> 00:44:29,460
tolerance for another terrorist
attack in this country under any

701
00:44:29,460 --> 00:44:30,240
circumstances.

702
00:44:31,980 --> 00:44:36,330
The more I started to see what
the government had done in here,

703
00:44:36,660 --> 00:44:40,440
and what the FBI had done here,
you realize everybody does

704
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:43,770
really, really, really ugly
things. And once you see

705
00:44:43,770 --> 00:44:45,510
something like that you can't
unsee it.

706
00:44:46,140 --> 00:44:50,130
It could be people did. You know
nobody told somebody to be in a

707
00:44:50,130 --> 00:44:51,060
clean, clean and clean.

708
00:44:52,290 --> 00:44:56,160
Closing. Yeah, it will destroy
property. You want to Yeah,

709
00:44:56,160 --> 00:45:03,150
he'll tell you that But they
tried to say my son was a

710
00:45:03,150 --> 00:45:04,500
ruthless killer.

711
00:45:06,029 --> 00:45:11,039
What David they talking about?
They when I found out how

712
00:45:11,759 --> 00:45:15,869
devious the government really
is, and he was like, well, your

713
00:45:15,869 --> 00:45:19,919
son's in tears. I said, No,
you're the terrorists. You go

714
00:45:19,919 --> 00:45:23,609
home and look in the mirror. You
created this whole scene.

715
00:45:25,679 --> 00:45:26,189
created a

716
00:45:26,190 --> 00:45:30,090
movie as well. Yeah, yeah, it's
it's quite easy these days.

717
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:34,560
And now that you don't need the
AI, you needed some footage from

718
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:38,280
my cell phone camera. And you
can use social media, you know.

719
00:45:40,050 --> 00:45:44,460
It's even more dangerous.
Because it's Yeah, you could

720
00:45:44,460 --> 00:45:48,360
take any angle, I mean, any
angle from anything, and make it

721
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:51,750
look like you want to make it
look and make a call out to me.

722
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:56,670
And then any new story, you
throw a couple 1000 bots against

723
00:45:56,670 --> 00:46:00,510
it. And john and i have always
said, the internet made it, you

724
00:46:00,510 --> 00:46:02,910
know, didn't really make it
better for freedom and free

725
00:46:02,910 --> 00:46:05,160
speech. It made it that much
easier for the government to

726
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:06,240
propagandize.

727
00:46:07,410 --> 00:46:10,140
That's true, but I had to push
back against that because it

728
00:46:10,140 --> 00:46:13,260
gets put on equal footing. Well,
that's

729
00:46:13,290 --> 00:46:18,030
okay. pushing back to your push
back. If you go look at the

730
00:46:18,030 --> 00:46:28,140
2000s for Satan, maybe it's 2009
or something 2008 2009 Time

731
00:46:28,140 --> 00:46:33,300
Magazine. Zuckerberg was Man of
the Year. And in that article,

732
00:46:33,750 --> 00:46:38,070
Robert Muller pops his head into
Zuckerberg office during the

733
00:46:38,070 --> 00:46:40,380
interview and says hey, you
know, I was just in my office

734
00:46:40,380 --> 00:46:43,860
here in the in the building. Now
Mahler was director of FBI at

735
00:46:43,860 --> 00:46:49,110
the time. He was the director of
FBI and had his own office in

736
00:46:49,110 --> 00:46:50,430
the Facebook building.

737
00:46:52,230 --> 00:46:54,570
Yeah, but what I'm saying is we
got two guys with two

738
00:46:54,570 --> 00:46:57,180
microphones and a laptop Okay,

739
00:46:57,180 --> 00:46:59,880
okay. Yeah, yeah, of course that
obviously

740
00:46:59,910 --> 00:47:03,960
that's a problem that's that's
the problem. We're seeing Oh,

741
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:04,200
this

742
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:08,190
is why I built podcasting. 2.0 I
need to protect us. Yeah,

743
00:47:08,790 --> 00:47:13,410
yeah. And they never thought
that I'll make I gotta make make

744
00:47:13,410 --> 00:47:16,020
these two points. I don't know I
don't want to be laboring, but

745
00:47:16,020 --> 00:47:19,860
we have to, we can't let it slip
past one with the new birth

746
00:47:19,860 --> 00:47:24,000
situation. If you make black
people the face of something.

747
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:29,850
You're going to get a segment of
society behind it. To rail

748
00:47:29,850 --> 00:47:33,930
against it. I'm going to give
you an example Haiti, the border

749
00:47:34,470 --> 00:47:38,040
Yeah, millions came in brown
people came into this country

750
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:42,930
freely. Afghans unvetted came to
this country field freely. We'll

751
00:47:42,930 --> 00:47:46,380
let 20,000 Haitians show up now
we of course know on this show

752
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:51,540
that all black people are not
the same as far as you have a

753
00:47:51,540 --> 00:47:55,860
das not a das Haitians whatever
but to the viewing audience you

754
00:47:55,860 --> 00:48:02,130
see a there was a horde of black
people head towards the border

755
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:05,010
Oh everybody got in line. Oh no,
no, I was turning around the

756
00:48:05,010 --> 00:48:06,930
border count them around the
border now.

757
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:11,220
Well, hold on a second. Again.
We have to be careful because

758
00:48:11,550 --> 00:48:14,700
this was a little different than
that because it's been a

759
00:48:14,700 --> 00:48:22,170
continuous stream of people
coming in this 20 30,000 person

760
00:48:22,170 --> 00:48:27,450
group from Haiti which were
always identified as Haitians in

761
00:48:27,450 --> 00:48:31,740
every news report it was really
fox news that push this I'm so

762
00:48:31,740 --> 00:48:36,240
this was you know what what was
different was you had a huge

763
00:48:36,240 --> 00:48:41,460
amount it was your streaming
across the river. I personally I

764
00:48:41,460 --> 00:48:44,040
have a feeling that that's yes
you're right there's always

765
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:49,260
gonna be someone but living in
Texas and I live in the hill

766
00:48:49,260 --> 00:48:53,280
country and you know so this is
not your typical Austin people.

767
00:48:53,580 --> 00:48:57,090
They really are more angry about
just the fact that it's

768
00:48:57,090 --> 00:49:02,970
happening then who it is is
contingent yes but it's it's

769
00:49:03,060 --> 00:49:05,250
it's I don't really feel like
that.

770
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:11,070
No the Texans were like stop
everybody knows I'm even pro

771
00:49:11,070 --> 00:49:15,270
strong border. The point I'm
making is if you want to stop

772
00:49:16,110 --> 00:49:18,540
say okay, now now I'm about to
get crispy I don't do

773
00:49:18,540 --> 00:49:21,660
conspiracies but let's just say
for instance, that you want to

774
00:49:21,660 --> 00:49:24,330
stop illegal immigration say
Dang, we blew out the border,

775
00:49:24,330 --> 00:49:29,280
how do we stop it right? Send
20,000 blacks to the border. If

776
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:33,120
we stopped then we can stop
everybody. Because the view of

777
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:35,490
and I'm just just telling you
because the same thing with an

778
00:49:35,490 --> 00:49:40,350
Uber case. When you make black
people the face of something.

779
00:49:40,620 --> 00:49:44,880
It's a little more scary to a
certain segment of society now

780
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:48,780
people on the border even
myself, I'm like nobody should

781
00:49:48,780 --> 00:49:52,950
come here we're saying the wrong
way. You know, I'm pro strong

782
00:49:52,950 --> 00:49:56,910
border because that's more
competition. unfair competition

783
00:49:56,970 --> 00:50:00,240
is introduced to the you know,
into the ecosystem of Our

784
00:50:00,900 --> 00:50:05,700
economy. But what I'm saying is
the optics of it scares the

785
00:50:05,700 --> 00:50:08,970
crap. I don't know why. I do
know why, but I don't know why

786
00:50:09,690 --> 00:50:13,950
it scared the crap out of not
the conservative side, but the

787
00:50:13,950 --> 00:50:16,620
liberal side. Notice they had no
problem with saying turn them

788
00:50:16,620 --> 00:50:20,040
around in the border. And who
and I'm gonna say this who lives

789
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:23,970
under a bridge? A person went
out of home, that was symbolic.

790
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:27,360
I don't know, y'all have a home
here, come around. Um, that's

791
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:32,130
just my view of it. Um, like I
said, you can push back on it,

792
00:50:32,130 --> 00:50:33,450
but that's how I

793
00:50:33,450 --> 00:50:36,750
see it. I don't have any
evidence one way or the other

794
00:50:36,780 --> 00:50:43,980
adjust what's around me? And in
this particular case, not when

795
00:50:43,980 --> 00:50:48,540
it when it's when it's brown
people, I think that it's more

796
00:50:48,540 --> 00:50:53,100
prevalent, because as African
Mexicans are coming, even though

797
00:50:53,100 --> 00:50:55,800
they're from completely
different countries, just this

798
00:50:55,800 --> 00:51:01,740
one particular case, I'm not so
sure. I mean, you you may have,

799
00:51:01,770 --> 00:51:04,230
you clearly have a different
experience. It's just it's been

800
00:51:04,230 --> 00:51:10,170
so posted. This is Haiti
annotations and, and the M five

801
00:51:10,170 --> 00:51:13,380
M is lying about them coming
from their earthquake country.

802
00:51:13,770 --> 00:51:17,820
So there's a lot of focus to
make it softer, in a way is what

803
00:51:17,820 --> 00:51:21,990
I'm feeling. I understand your
point. I just don't know if if

804
00:51:22,170 --> 00:51:23,760
it subconscious

805
00:51:23,970 --> 00:51:27,000
or how to show for another day,
but I just want to make that my

806
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:28,470
perception of It's fine.

807
00:51:28,650 --> 00:51:29,280
It's fine. Yeah.

808
00:51:29,490 --> 00:51:34,320
My perception is when you when
you make it a darker hue. It's a

809
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:38,700
problem. Now we flew people in
from Afghanistan. Now we were

810
00:51:38,700 --> 00:51:42,780
talking about terrorism now
manufactured terrorism. It with

811
00:51:42,780 --> 00:51:46,410
the new Berg thing, but we're
bringing people in unvetted no

812
00:51:46,410 --> 00:51:46,980
problem. Yeah,

813
00:51:47,130 --> 00:51:51,090
no problem. But hold on, because
I follow this, that that news of

814
00:51:51,090 --> 00:51:54,570
the Afghan of Afghans being
brought in, which was starting

815
00:51:54,570 --> 00:51:58,170
to create an outrage, by the
way, a lot of Afghans not brown

816
00:51:58,170 --> 00:52:00,210
just so everybody knows, you
know, there's a lot of white

817
00:52:00,210 --> 00:52:05,610
Afghans. Yeah. But that was
overshadowed by the Haitians as

818
00:52:05,610 --> 00:52:08,730
a new story. So that so I think
that people's focus was turned

819
00:52:08,730 --> 00:52:12,240
away, maybe purposefully,
because, yeah, there were

820
00:52:12,240 --> 00:52:15,030
stories about, there was a
couple of Afghans who

821
00:52:15,030 --> 00:52:17,490
immediately had to be deported
because they were criminals.

822
00:52:18,270 --> 00:52:21,240
So that we needed a weapon that
is give me a weapon tail and

823
00:52:21,270 --> 00:52:26,130
token people. basis. So yeah,
I'm just saying, that's just a

824
00:52:26,130 --> 00:52:30,480
perception of mine. It's like
branding. If you want to brand

825
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:33,630
it a certain guy, I gotta let
people do and the reason why I

826
00:52:33,630 --> 00:52:36,480
brought it up, I didn't want to
bring hate into too much. But I

827
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:39,840
think they tried that with this
case, because I don't know if

828
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:43,500
it's known to you or not, we're
in every president in a made the

829
00:52:43,500 --> 00:52:47,220
point is that they met in
prison. In every major prison.

830
00:52:47,490 --> 00:52:51,990
There's a Muslim population of
black men. Yes. So it's like,

831
00:52:52,020 --> 00:52:54,450
oh, we had a whole terrorist
nail in every image, every

832
00:52:54,450 --> 00:52:57,750
prison like this. This is this
is a real Bonanza.

833
00:52:57,839 --> 00:53:03,179
I remember I remember hearing
this after 911. So probably

834
00:53:03,209 --> 00:53:06,089
2000 567 that there was a lot of
this talk.

835
00:53:06,630 --> 00:53:11,760
Yeah. So I mean, I think it
flopped. Flat hard. Now. You

836
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:15,090
brought up Mueller. Is that
Mueller akin to john Mueller,

837
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:19,500
the senior fellow at the cato
institute? I don't know. I don't

838
00:53:19,500 --> 00:53:20,370
know if he is or not.

839
00:53:20,460 --> 00:53:21,090
I don't know.

840
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:25,410
I have a clip of john Mueller
speaking on the new Burke's

841
00:53:25,410 --> 00:53:25,800
thing.

842
00:53:26,220 --> 00:53:29,400
Yeah, what I've been doing is a
set of case studies had been

843
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:35,430
mentioned, which are of every
case since 911, in which there

844
00:53:35,430 --> 00:53:39,000
has been an Islamic terrorist
who has either who is apparently

845
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:42,600
tried to do damage within the
United States. This had included

846
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:45,300
not only terrorists in the
United States, like the Hamburg

847
00:53:45,300 --> 00:53:50,310
people by the Newbern people,
but also the people of like the

848
00:53:50,310 --> 00:53:52,560
shoe bomber, and so forth,
people who are based overseas.

849
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:55,980
So there's 70, there's now 70
cases, and there's a flyer out

850
00:53:55,980 --> 00:53:59,070
there if you didn't pick it up
with 69 cases, but one just

851
00:53:59,070 --> 00:54:01,410
happened over the weekend. So
there are now 70 cases that

852
00:54:01,410 --> 00:54:03,630
we'll be looking at. And most of
them have failed to fully

853
00:54:03,630 --> 00:54:07,320
developed case studies. The the
case seems to be fairly unique

854
00:54:07,350 --> 00:54:11,040
this particular case or especial
in several respects, but two in

855
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:15,210
particular stand out to me. One
is the first time the FBI

856
00:54:15,210 --> 00:54:17,460
actually went to actually have
them push the button.

857
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:21,120
Previously, when they had an
formance by the way of the 70

858
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:24,600
cases or so more than half of
them have insight you have

859
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:27,510
informants people working in the
play, not just looking at it

860
00:54:27,510 --> 00:54:30,450
from outside surveilling it, but
actually looking within the plot

861
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:37,980
of the night 19 cases since 2010
or so the 19 cases in this

862
00:54:38,010 --> 00:54:43,410
decade. 15 of them have been
types of with the with the with

863
00:54:43,410 --> 00:54:46,830
an informant working on site. At
any rate in the early days, they

864
00:54:46,830 --> 00:54:48,630
basically just getting
information about this guy wants

865
00:54:48,630 --> 00:54:51,270
to do something and then they
tried to bring court cases, then

866
00:54:51,270 --> 00:54:54,150
he got closer to actually giving
them weapons or having to take

867
00:54:54,150 --> 00:54:54,660
weapons. Oh

868
00:54:56,550 --> 00:54:59,790
my god, this is this is a great
explanation of the entire six

869
00:54:59,790 --> 00:55:02,220
weeks cycle concept This is
fantastic.

870
00:55:02,580 --> 00:55:05,280
But like you said and I didn't
leave you That's why I'll let

871
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:07,800
you speak about pushing the
button. But this is one of the

872
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:12,270
first cases on record was like
oh we got to get him at the

873
00:55:12,300 --> 00:55:15,240
scene right actually pressing
the button because it's getting

874
00:55:15,240 --> 00:55:19,650
harder and harder to try these
cases where you know where she's

875
00:55:21,540 --> 00:55:24,780
an alleged attack this was plant
with story is the word he like

876
00:55:24,780 --> 00:55:25,770
to use this story.

877
00:55:27,780 --> 00:55:31,440
Robert Mueller has four younger
sisters no brothers, so

878
00:55:31,620 --> 00:55:36,030
all right. Never Mueller. Yeah,
different one. All right. So um,

879
00:55:36,540 --> 00:55:38,820
I guess we can get back into the
second clip or john.

880
00:55:39,150 --> 00:55:41,340
It turns out the government did
absolutely everything that had

881
00:55:41,340 --> 00:55:44,070
fans predicted in his previous
motion dismisses indictment, the

882
00:55:44,070 --> 00:55:46,650
government indisputably
manufactured the crimes of which

883
00:55:46,650 --> 00:55:50,430
is the defendant stand
convicted. And they did all the

884
00:55:50,430 --> 00:55:53,220
details. There's not the
slightest doubt in my mind that

885
00:55:53,220 --> 00:55:56,430
James promethee could never have
dreamed of this scenario, which

886
00:55:56,430 --> 00:55:59,340
actually became he actually
became involved in and if by

887
00:55:59,340 --> 00:56:02,400
some chance he did, he would not
have had the slightest idea of

888
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:07,080
how to make it happen. I believe
beyond a shadow of a doubt,

889
00:56:07,170 --> 00:56:10,650
which is extreme, you know, not
vague, without beyond a shadow

890
00:56:10,650 --> 00:56:13,260
of a doubt that there would
never been a crime here except

891
00:56:13,260 --> 00:56:15,870
the government instigated
planned it and brought it to

892
00:56:15,870 --> 00:56:19,290
fruition now she also points out
a couple of ingenious things

893
00:56:19,290 --> 00:56:23,220
that the government did do one
was they basically made it so

894
00:56:23,220 --> 00:56:26,340
that these guys would get their
weapons in Connecticut so that

895
00:56:26,340 --> 00:56:29,730
made it a federal case that he
went outside of New York and the

896
00:56:29,730 --> 00:56:32,820
other thing they did was
essentially pursue the idea of

897
00:56:32,820 --> 00:56:36,480
bombing with a stinger missile
shooting a plane which presuming

898
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:39,090
on the ground with nobody in it,
it was flying these guys would

899
00:56:39,090 --> 00:56:41,700
never in a million years be able
to hit it they probably couldn't

900
00:56:41,700 --> 00:56:43,560
hit it even they're standing
right next to it on the ground.

901
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:48,570
But at any rate, she then
basically they they did this the

902
00:56:48,570 --> 00:56:53,880
stinger missile thing which as
pointed out earlier, minimized

903
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:56,850
or modified your sentence if you
tried to take it on an aeroplane

904
00:56:56,850 --> 00:56:59,580
or planning to do it so in many
respects the government made

905
00:56:59,580 --> 00:57:02,100
that happen because they didn't
have to do the stinger missile

906
00:57:02,100 --> 00:57:04,380
they could did something else
like blowing up a bridge or

907
00:57:04,380 --> 00:57:09,750
something like it was originally
there. The The promisee was

908
00:57:09,750 --> 00:57:14,190
incapable of committing an act
of terrorism on his own and the

909
00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:17,550
the informant was a prime mover
instigator of the of the

910
00:57:17,550 --> 00:57:18,510
criminal activity

911
00:57:18,750 --> 00:57:23,430
I remember this now. I totally
remember this with the Stinger

912
00:57:23,430 --> 00:57:27,450
missiles I think that was doing
that at LaGuardia or something

913
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:33,240
I think it was the Air Force
Base I'm not possible it's

914
00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:36,240
possible yes I remember this
Yeah, so that's that's the whole

915
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:39,000
point. And then they also had
the sprinkling and synagogues.

916
00:57:42,570 --> 00:57:44,730
On the way to the airport we're
gonna knock off a couple of

917
00:57:44,730 --> 00:57:48,720
synagogues was added to get
certain people alarmed in power

918
00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:51,840
so I mean, it's like a dog
whistle pay attention pay

919
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:56,370
attention, right. So we all know
what that what that percent

920
00:57:56,820 --> 00:58:01,170
equates to when they throw the
synagogues in there. Um, but

921
00:58:01,170 --> 00:58:06,420
yeah, I mean this this is a john
Mueller. He said this is the

922
00:58:06,420 --> 00:58:10,050
first time that they had people
on the inside working. Well,

923
00:58:10,050 --> 00:58:15,090
obviously he didn't know. Darth
Darth Perry, which he. This is a

924
00:58:15,090 --> 00:58:19,020
throwback clip from 41. Just
about and it was a record air.

925
00:58:19,050 --> 00:58:22,560
This interview aired in 1980. He
did most of his actions in the

926
00:58:22,830 --> 00:58:29,460
late 60s early 70s. ex ex FBI
informant talks infiltration.

927
00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:33,330
In the summer of 1978, I
interviewed a man who worked as

928
00:58:33,330 --> 00:58:37,830
an informant for the FBI during
the 1960s. His name is Darth

929
00:58:37,830 --> 00:58:42,450
aard. Perry, also known as Ed
Riggs, also known as Bill Perry,

930
00:58:42,690 --> 00:58:51,480
also known as Othello. How are
you paid? the pay was always in

931
00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:57,060
cash, cash and you would sign a
card, it would go like this a

932
00:58:57,060 --> 00:59:00,630
rendezvous or a drop off point
would be picked out either by

933
00:59:00,630 --> 00:59:04,830
yourself or the agent, he would
meet the agent there. Usually it

934
00:59:04,830 --> 00:59:07,590
would be in a vehicle you get in
the vehicle, he would hand you

935
00:59:07,590 --> 00:59:11,190
the money, he would tell you
first to count the money. He

936
00:59:11,190 --> 00:59:15,060
would tell you the amount while
you counted. The amount was

937
00:59:15,060 --> 00:59:19,140
there he would then bring out a
card on that card would be for

938
00:59:19,140 --> 00:59:22,410
the week of such in session. In
other words, the week was dated

939
00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:28,530
so and so has been paid the
amount of then you would sign

940
00:59:28,530 --> 00:59:31,410
the card and then the agent
would sign the car. The reason

941
00:59:31,410 --> 00:59:36,060
for this is that if all of a
sudden the IRS became very

942
00:59:36,060 --> 00:59:38,580
interested about where you were
getting all this extra money

943
00:59:38,580 --> 00:59:41,610
from, you could always tell them
to go back to the Bureau and the

944
00:59:41,610 --> 00:59:43,290
bureau would have your cars on
file.

945
00:59:49,980 --> 00:59:52,110
Yeah, my goodness.

946
00:59:52,710 --> 00:59:55,740
So this was this was going on in
the 60s we you know, of course

947
00:59:55,740 --> 00:59:59,370
what cointelpro and those things
and this guy was setting setting

948
00:59:59,370 --> 01:00:01,830
the fire In intermingling with,

949
01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:05,430
imagine how sophisticated this
stuff is now, considering how

950
01:00:05,430 --> 01:00:07,410
long they've been pulling these
scams.

951
01:00:08,940 --> 01:00:12,660
Yeah, but I think it works
because that is not

952
01:00:12,660 --> 01:00:19,650
sophisticated. It's poor people
cash, you can get into places

953
01:00:19,650 --> 01:00:23,610
that we can't. Hmm. And that
that's the nuance we're talking

954
01:00:23,610 --> 01:00:28,080
about the humans have that, you
know, even with technology, its

955
01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:32,130
limitations, right? Um, yeah,
it's certain limitations that

956
01:00:32,130 --> 01:00:36,540
you can, you can't, if somebody
approaches approaches you

957
01:00:36,540 --> 01:00:39,510
online, it's a little different
when somebody approaches you in

958
01:00:39,510 --> 01:00:42,990
person, right? That's why these
people are so valuable to these

959
01:00:43,710 --> 01:00:49,380
three letter agencies. Right. So
yeah, so you hear you heard him

960
01:00:49,380 --> 01:00:52,770
saying yourself? So let's get
into the second part of this

961
01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:53,280
clip.

962
01:00:54,029 --> 01:00:59,579
With such things as bonuses, Oh,
yes. What were they paid for?

963
01:00:59,789 --> 01:01:08,459
bonuses were paid for? Suppose
while you were meeting with, or

964
01:01:08,459 --> 01:01:14,249
you were at a meeting with Bobby
seals, to lie, the Red Army

965
01:01:15,569 --> 01:01:19,079
happened to come to the meeting
to which is something which

966
01:01:19,079 --> 01:01:25,229
would be new development as the
best bonus time? In other words,

967
01:01:25,229 --> 01:01:30,329
a hard piece of information, IPS
very happy. Did you ever suffer

968
01:01:30,329 --> 01:01:37,289
pangs of conscience? Quite a few
times. Quite a few times. I

969
01:01:37,289 --> 01:01:42,059
still suffer pain as a
conscious. I suffer from the

970
01:01:42,059 --> 01:01:45,629
fact that a lot of people
trusted me. And I misused that

971
01:01:45,629 --> 01:01:54,749
trust. I suffer from the fact
that a lot of information that I

972
01:01:54,779 --> 01:01:59,939
gave out was the undoing of
certain groups or certain

973
01:01:59,939 --> 01:02:00,599
people.

974
01:02:01,950 --> 01:02:08,310
Sound familiar? to folks, DVDs,
weapons to the bottom,

975
01:02:08,850 --> 01:02:12,150
you as you always say it's, it's
you first what you do hold the

976
01:02:12,150 --> 01:02:13,470
door open, we are

977
01:02:13,470 --> 01:02:16,380
in the wrong door, this is the
wrong door you want to go

978
01:02:16,380 --> 01:02:20,820
through. You don't want to go
through this door because as we

979
01:02:20,820 --> 01:02:25,230
saw with the proud boys, they
had the leader who was an afro

980
01:02:25,230 --> 01:02:29,940
Latino, he was working with the
feds, right? allegedly right?

981
01:02:29,970 --> 01:02:33,270
Um, and they brought him in like
right before that he couldn't be

982
01:02:33,270 --> 01:02:37,440
at the one six a protest, like,
Oh, no, no, no, we found you

983
01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:41,010
with some kind of magazines or
something. We're taking you out

984
01:02:41,010 --> 01:02:43,830
the game, you know, that kind of
thing. And, like I said, we saw

985
01:02:43,830 --> 01:02:46,260
this with the mob, we saw
there's all kinds of groups,

986
01:02:46,590 --> 01:02:50,670
either political or just
criminal with these

987
01:02:50,940 --> 01:02:55,470
infiltrators, um, and like I
said, I just want to humanize

988
01:02:55,470 --> 01:02:57,420
because they maybe they're
saying, Oh, well, it's for the

989
01:02:57,420 --> 01:03:01,050
greater good, but you can't
circumvent people's rights.

990
01:03:01,290 --> 01:03:05,160
That's my issue with it, you
know, do it the right way. If

991
01:03:05,160 --> 01:03:07,680
you want to catch people do it
the right way. Um,

992
01:03:08,399 --> 01:03:13,739
but, yes. You mean like, do it
legally do your job properly and

993
01:03:13,739 --> 01:03:14,969
stop mucking around?

994
01:03:15,150 --> 01:03:17,460
Right, don't know, infringe on
people, right? I'm big on

995
01:03:17,460 --> 01:03:21,090
rights. Because when I go into
courtroom, I would hope to have

996
01:03:21,120 --> 01:03:26,100
all mine protect me. And when I
see other people's rights are

997
01:03:26,100 --> 01:03:30,240
eroded away. That is a big issue
with me. Because if you could

998
01:03:30,240 --> 01:03:32,880
take that person, even if I
don't agree with that person,

999
01:03:33,060 --> 01:03:36,690
even if I don't like that
person, you they should have a

1000
01:03:36,690 --> 01:03:40,230
fair trial. They shouldn't be
entrapped. They shouldn't be you

1001
01:03:40,230 --> 01:03:45,240
know, oh, you know, honeypot it
or whatever, whatever the terms

1002
01:03:45,240 --> 01:03:49,200
you want to use to get it i want
i want to clean case, because it

1003
01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:51,660
might that's that's the thing,
if I'm not that way, then I'm a

1004
01:03:51,660 --> 01:03:55,860
hypocrite. You know, I'm decide,
yeah, get I don't like them. So

1005
01:03:55,860 --> 01:03:58,980
do what you got to do to get Oh,
of course, of course. And I

1006
01:03:58,980 --> 01:04:01,440
think like I said, I think
that's the thinking that came.

1007
01:04:01,830 --> 01:04:05,550
That was the silver lining of
the 911 thing. A lot of people

1008
01:04:05,550 --> 01:04:08,790
felt that way. Like, that feels
icky, right? You're saying like,

1009
01:04:08,790 --> 01:04:12,660
that doesn't even feel right.
Even if I understand. I

1010
01:04:12,660 --> 01:04:14,610
understand I live it I
understand the buildings or

1011
01:04:14,610 --> 01:04:18,660
whatever. I mean, just take it
surface level. But I rack like,

1012
01:04:18,690 --> 01:04:22,170
what are we doing? I don't make
it make sense. But nobody said

1013
01:04:22,170 --> 01:04:27,060
anything at the time. But I
think people my age and yellow

1014
01:04:27,060 --> 01:04:27,630
are younger.

1015
01:04:27,780 --> 01:04:32,550
Well, that was that was two
things. That was a lie, of

1016
01:04:32,550 --> 01:04:37,770
course, but it was a colin
powell who held up you know, the

1017
01:04:37,800 --> 01:04:41,160
the vial of anthrax, and then
there was the aluminum tubes.

1018
01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:48,210
That was a New York Times. Lie.
They lied. And yeah, but it was

1019
01:04:48,210 --> 01:04:51,300
totally based off of the New
York Times reporting and they

1020
01:04:51,300 --> 01:04:54,510
just had bad information. I
would say they lied. But yeah,

1021
01:04:55,020 --> 01:05:01,080
yeah. Like I said, but that
shaped the generation have now

1022
01:05:01,170 --> 01:05:06,420
Oh, no, it's not fair. I think
we're Yes. The general

1023
01:05:06,420 --> 01:05:10,770
population is more about
fairness now than it was just

1024
01:05:10,800 --> 01:05:14,580
Oh, pro America. Yeah, yeah,
yeah. Now, yeah, we want it. We

1025
01:05:14,580 --> 01:05:17,730
want it clean. Like we want to
win win win clean when we don't

1026
01:05:17,730 --> 01:05:21,000
want you know, we don't want to,
I could say use your word not

1027
01:05:21,030 --> 01:05:26,430
more than mucked up. So I'm now
getting back to the black. And I

1028
01:05:26,430 --> 01:05:29,700
got to get back to it because we
got to go talk about the Black

1029
01:05:29,700 --> 01:05:36,030
Panthers Yes. And what the they
did for gun rights in a negative

1030
01:05:36,030 --> 01:05:39,540
way. So I'm just gonna catch
people up. This came for 41 as

1031
01:05:39,540 --> 01:05:44,070
well. And if it wasn't for the
Black Panthers in them being

1032
01:05:44,070 --> 01:05:48,720
given guns, and standing outside
of a state capitol, then you

1033
01:05:48,720 --> 01:05:52,170
don't have the gun rights that
we have today where the gun laws

1034
01:05:52,170 --> 01:05:56,640
not rights, but the policing of
gun rights that we have today.

1035
01:05:57,030 --> 01:06:00,030
And those guns were supplied by,
you guessed.

1036
01:06:03,450 --> 01:06:06,570
We begin today's show with
explosive new allegations that

1037
01:06:06,570 --> 01:06:10,020
the man who gave the Black
Panther Party some of its first

1038
01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:14,400
firearms and weapons training
was an undercover FBI informant

1039
01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:18,600
in California. Richard okie, was
an early member of the Panthers

1040
01:06:18,600 --> 01:06:21,990
and the only Asian American to
have a formal position in the

1041
01:06:21,990 --> 01:06:25,350
party. He was also a member of
the Asian American political

1042
01:06:25,350 --> 01:06:28,350
alliance that was involved in
the third world Liberation Front

1043
01:06:28,350 --> 01:06:32,760
students strike of the claim
that alkie was informed and his

1044
01:06:32,760 --> 01:06:35,670
colleagues is based on
statements made by a former

1045
01:06:36,330 --> 01:06:39,870
agent of the FBI. In a report
obtained by investigative

1046
01:06:39,870 --> 01:06:42,390
journalist Seth Rosenfeld,
author of the new book

1047
01:06:42,420 --> 01:06:46,260
subversives, the FBI is war on
student radicals and Reagan's

1048
01:06:46,290 --> 01:06:47,550
rise to power.

1049
01:06:49,380 --> 01:06:55,110
Yes, once again, handing out
guns. For political it's like

1050
01:06:55,140 --> 01:06:59,880
it's the it's the it's the
double cross is, here's guns

1051
01:06:59,940 --> 01:07:03,930
look scary. So now we can
implement what we really want to

1052
01:07:03,930 --> 01:07:08,100
implement gun control. So that's
my point. It was I think the

1053
01:07:08,100 --> 01:07:13,230
same thing with a Newburgh
sting. It was here, here's

1054
01:07:13,230 --> 01:07:18,270
bombs, here's Stinger missiles.
Now we can really clamp down on

1055
01:07:18,270 --> 01:07:23,340
the domestic like, this was like
the real birth of the domestic

1056
01:07:23,340 --> 01:07:25,500
terrorists because they were
American citizens.

1057
01:07:25,589 --> 01:07:28,769
Of course. Ah. What year was
this again?

1058
01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:34,530
The new bar. I think I could say
I think that was when I say 2008

1059
01:07:34,530 --> 01:07:38,550
or something. Yeah, yes. Okay.
So yeah, so it's, well, they're

1060
01:07:38,550 --> 01:07:41,220
not over there anymore. They're
over here and they're

1061
01:07:41,220 --> 01:07:45,390
radicalized. And we heard there
radicalizing American citizens.

1062
01:07:45,930 --> 01:07:50,340
You know, that's how powerful
the narrative was Kane like, and

1063
01:07:50,340 --> 01:07:54,960
the same thing with Richard
Araki. So I think we can skip

1064
01:07:54,960 --> 01:07:58,020
past what we stopped at 15.
Yeah, we don't need to listen to

1065
01:07:58,020 --> 01:08:02,910
16. But I want to get 16 a,
because as we heard on the last

1066
01:08:02,910 --> 01:08:07,320
show, 66 with the Black Panther
Party and what was going on in

1067
01:08:07,320 --> 01:08:07,980
Baltimore,

1068
01:08:08,310 --> 01:08:11,580
I wanted I one of the other
really fascinating things in

1069
01:08:11,580 --> 01:08:14,970
your book, you talk about the
history of policing in

1070
01:08:14,970 --> 01:08:19,140
Baltimore. And you you've said,
You told me before the interview

1071
01:08:19,140 --> 01:08:22,200
that you sort of see some
parallels today, we might be

1072
01:08:22,200 --> 01:08:25,980
under a new age of surveillance.
You know, that if it's not

1073
01:08:25,980 --> 01:08:28,500
already started today. And and I
think one of the most

1074
01:08:28,500 --> 01:08:33,960
fascinating things in your book,
you talk about how the the, so

1075
01:08:33,960 --> 01:08:37,950
the Baltimore chapter of the
Black Panther Party, was

1076
01:08:37,950 --> 01:08:42,660
actually started as part of a
cointelpro operation, which is

1077
01:08:42,660 --> 01:08:48,570
run by the FBI to sort of sort
of infiltrate the national

1078
01:08:48,570 --> 01:08:50,940
chapter, which was based in
Chicago and in Oakland,

1079
01:08:50,970 --> 01:08:54,900
right. And, and so so what
happened was that an army

1080
01:08:54,900 --> 01:08:58,530
veteran who had joined the
National Security Agency, which

1081
01:08:58,530 --> 01:09:03,990
had built a new headquarters
near Baltimore, accent here to

1082
01:09:03,990 --> 01:09:08,520
create a Black Panther Party in
Baltimore, that lasted for about

1083
01:09:08,550 --> 01:09:12,870
a year and then he disappeared
only to resurface in Canada as

1084
01:09:12,870 --> 01:09:16,950
an agent provocateur. The reason
why he went to Canada was that

1085
01:09:16,950 --> 01:09:20,370
the Royal Mounted Police did not
have any black agents. So the

1086
01:09:20,370 --> 01:09:22,860
FBI, led him to Canada.

1087
01:09:24,120 --> 01:09:30,150
Linda snitch black guard down in
America, we knew that we need to

1088
01:09:30,150 --> 01:09:34,740
rent a snitch. And that guy who
shot his international

1089
01:09:35,850 --> 01:09:40,920
painting, just curiosity, do we
have any idea of the, at the

1090
01:09:40,920 --> 01:09:44,100
time, at least of the racial
makeup of the FBI?

1091
01:09:45,569 --> 01:09:49,889
Oh, no, they actually had black
agents. They mean that that was

1092
01:09:49,889 --> 01:09:51,869
something but I'm just curious.
What

1093
01:09:51,870 --> 01:09:54,540
do you think the ratio is? Oh,
very small.

1094
01:09:54,630 --> 01:09:59,010
It would mean they were hired
like as, I mean, they had black

1095
01:09:59,040 --> 01:10:03,660
agents that came in To talk to
you know, Malcolm X yeah

1096
01:10:04,740 --> 01:10:07,650
you know they always had the
people and like I said the

1097
01:10:07,650 --> 01:10:11,790
humanism we don't want to you
know demonize anybody I'm sure

1098
01:10:11,790 --> 01:10:14,130
they felt that they were doing
the best thing they could for

1099
01:10:14,130 --> 01:10:17,280
their country because we know
some of these groups were based

1100
01:10:17,280 --> 01:10:21,240
in communism is well so they
might have like well yeah we're

1101
01:10:21,240 --> 01:10:25,140
taking down this group where
we're fighting the evil red you

1102
01:10:25,140 --> 01:10:27,780
know that kind of thing and
that's but that's the same

1103
01:10:27,780 --> 01:10:31,380
mentality now right is Oh yeah,
we're gonna we're locking up the

1104
01:10:31,380 --> 01:10:34,950
160s but we're taking down the
evil nationalist or not that

1105
01:10:34,950 --> 01:10:40,260
kind of thinking what I'm just
doing as I'm laying out is Back

1106
01:10:40,260 --> 01:10:46,230
to the Future. Totally what the
whole way I'm walking it back is

1107
01:10:46,230 --> 01:10:52,110
like is this is happening right
now in certain groups is people

1108
01:10:52,110 --> 01:10:55,770
showing up with bags full of
money, bags for arms, whatever

1109
01:10:55,770 --> 01:11:02,670
else and making inroads in
groups to you know Taro wrote

1110
01:11:02,670 --> 01:11:05,430
our way our rights I mean that's
that's my biggest thing is like

1111
01:11:06,570 --> 01:11:10,080
as an Ontario said, In this
clip, you know, it's the

1112
01:11:10,080 --> 01:11:13,080
surveillance Look at all this
stuff we gave up out of fear.

1113
01:11:13,710 --> 01:11:15,960
You know, you can't ride
anywhere I was talking to

1114
01:11:15,960 --> 01:11:18,990
somebody today. You can't ride
anywhere without being recorded

1115
01:11:18,990 --> 01:11:19,260
now.

1116
01:11:19,769 --> 01:11:22,889
Oh, no kidding and let's
remember let's see let's just

1117
01:11:22,889 --> 01:11:23,519
remember what's

1118
01:11:24,570 --> 01:11:27,720
even past your neighbor's house
the ring doorbells the know the

1119
01:11:27,720 --> 01:11:31,980
ring dorm camera ring doorbell
network cameras all those things

1120
01:11:31,980 --> 01:11:33,030
you hear is normal. Can

1121
01:11:33,030 --> 01:11:36,210
you hear me mo no, you can't
hear me Hello? I thought yeah,

1122
01:11:36,210 --> 01:11:42,150
hold on. Yeah, it's the ring
doorbell network that has been

1123
01:11:42,150 --> 01:11:47,340
licensed to every single police
department in the country. They

1124
01:11:47,340 --> 01:11:50,760
literally have a continuous view
of almost every single street

1125
01:11:50,760 --> 01:11:56,730
because we're stupid and there
is fear I mean, you well the

1126
01:11:56,730 --> 01:12:00,000
ring now the ring doorbell yes
it's fear of course it's fear

1127
01:12:00,660 --> 01:12:04,110
but it's also a complete
ignorance people really don't

1128
01:12:04,110 --> 01:12:06,600
understand what that what the
giving up by doing this kind of

1129
01:12:06,600 --> 01:12:07,080
stuff.

1130
01:12:07,410 --> 01:12:10,380
Well people were paying on
people's and taking craps on

1131
01:12:10,380 --> 01:12:13,800
people's doorstep I mean of
course we know I can't say of

1132
01:12:13,800 --> 01:12:20,880
course we know is highly likely
that Amazon was doing native ads

1133
01:12:21,480 --> 01:12:24,780
to scare people I love what's
happening outside your door when

1134
01:12:24,780 --> 01:12:25,590
you're not home.

1135
01:12:25,620 --> 01:12:26,490
Oh totally.

1136
01:12:26,580 --> 01:12:30,450
Don't you want to know I might
get stolen packages all those

1137
01:12:30,450 --> 01:12:34,440
things it's they you know and
well

1138
01:12:34,470 --> 01:12:38,400
here I have an example I have an
example. I think it's just maybe

1139
01:12:38,400 --> 01:12:41,220
just a new story but but that's
what was going on as you'd have

1140
01:12:41,220 --> 01:12:44,160
new stories where they talk
about the ring doorbell and

1141
01:12:44,160 --> 01:12:46,230
those were native ads like this.
I think coming

1142
01:12:46,230 --> 01:12:49,020
allegations tonight out of North
Phoenix the mother accused of

1143
01:12:49,020 --> 01:12:52,140
abusing her own son and police
say they have the visual

1144
01:12:52,140 --> 01:12:55,440
evidence to prove it. Nicole
marker and a boyfriend William

1145
01:12:55,440 --> 01:12:58,920
Johnson now facing charges.
Police started investigating

1146
01:12:58,920 --> 01:13:03,000
after markers young child showed
up at school with a burn on his

1147
01:13:03,000 --> 01:13:06,690
hand. It's a fun story later
recovering 1000s of ring video

1148
01:13:06,690 --> 01:13:10,290
clips inside and outside the
child's home near 32nd Street

1149
01:13:10,290 --> 01:13:10,800
and Bell

1150
01:13:11,070 --> 01:13:16,620
Yeah, totally inside inside.
Like maybe they didn't tell you

1151
01:13:16,620 --> 01:13:22,620
that part. Or like the kid like
the the CPS coming to people

1152
01:13:22,620 --> 01:13:25,260
houses due to Alexa is

1153
01:13:25,650 --> 01:13:27,900
Oh, yeah, yeah. Oh, it
accidentally recorded you. I'm

1154
01:13:27,900 --> 01:13:28,590
so sorry.

1155
01:13:28,920 --> 01:13:32,790
Right. So I mean, that's all I'm
saying is but just stay in

1156
01:13:32,790 --> 01:13:38,460
Baltimore for a minute. The Wire
he showed us this notion of we

1157
01:13:38,460 --> 01:13:42,570
saw in NORC started with cell
phones. Not when they had the

1158
01:13:42,570 --> 01:13:45,240
camera. Remember they put the
camera up on the corner? Yeah,

1159
01:13:45,330 --> 01:13:50,310
you know, so. It was there. I
mean, it was like Okay, yeah,

1160
01:13:50,520 --> 01:13:54,000
crom Newark, New Jersey was like
ground zero for this kind of

1161
01:13:54,000 --> 01:13:58,950
surveillance. And now it's just
like, except it that you can't

1162
01:13:58,950 --> 01:14:01,080
go anywhere without being
recorded. I mean, almost to the

1163
01:14:01,080 --> 01:14:03,960
point where if it doesn't even
exist anymore, like you know,

1164
01:14:03,960 --> 01:14:06,960
you're not even conscious of
being recorded.

1165
01:14:06,990 --> 01:14:10,620
And remember that the best spy
devices the one you have in your

1166
01:14:10,620 --> 01:14:11,070
pocket.

1167
01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:15,060
Oh, yeah. tracks, you know, tell
you when you sleep your way.

1168
01:14:15,120 --> 01:14:19,590
I read a great story this
morning, Spotify, the Spotify

1169
01:14:19,590 --> 01:14:23,130
app, apparently is wearing down
the battery on brand new

1170
01:14:23,130 --> 01:14:26,610
iPhones, like in an hour of
listening to Spotify drains the

1171
01:14:26,610 --> 01:14:30,630
battery by 30%. And the company
says, Well yeah, you know, it's

1172
01:14:30,630 --> 01:14:34,320
doing a lot of data processing.
Like really to play a song.

1173
01:14:35,250 --> 01:14:38,280
Yeah, it's a lot of data proc,
and we're not quite sure we can

1174
01:14:38,280 --> 01:14:41,940
change this. And the
recommendation is don't let it

1175
01:14:41,940 --> 01:14:46,230
run in the background. Oh my
goodness. Yeah, but they're

1176
01:14:46,230 --> 01:14:49,950
they're mining your whole life
to sell it and I'm sure they'd

1177
01:14:49,950 --> 01:14:52,800
be happy to accept a subpoena.

1178
01:14:53,250 --> 01:14:58,050
Well, not only to sell it but to
their mining your whole life to

1179
01:14:58,050 --> 01:15:01,740
shape it. How many times You
actually select what you want to

1180
01:15:01,740 --> 01:15:06,000
hear next are watching it. It's
like here. You watch that you

1181
01:15:06,000 --> 01:15:09,630
love this. Yep. And people are
like Molly's in front of Netflix

1182
01:15:09,630 --> 01:15:13,620
and they just say okay, Ah yeah,
show me that or YouTube. Okay.

1183
01:15:13,620 --> 01:15:18,210
Yeah, I guess I like that you
know. So this goes back into the

1184
01:15:18,210 --> 01:15:21,510
shaping of society in the in
the, you know, the social

1185
01:15:21,510 --> 01:15:26,100
programming is going on, which I
find very, very sad. very

1186
01:15:26,100 --> 01:15:31,080
troubling. But Wow, wow, this is
something that you missed from

1187
01:15:31,080 --> 01:15:35,490
the life. We talked about.
Michael K. Williams. Yeah. And

1188
01:15:35,490 --> 01:15:41,070
my favorite role of is is not
Omar. Dickies, chalky, white,

1189
01:15:41,430 --> 01:15:46,410
from Boardwalk Empire. And when
my nose clips for that covered

1190
01:15:46,410 --> 01:15:53,700
it. A lot of good stuff in the
live the lost tapes for 66. I

1191
01:15:54,360 --> 01:15:57,810
went across this clip again, I
was we're always aware of it.

1192
01:15:58,140 --> 01:16:01,770
But this is a fascinating, it's
a it's a drama sensation. But

1193
01:16:02,040 --> 01:16:07,890
it's the character called Darren
in our SES. And he was this. I

1194
01:16:07,890 --> 01:16:12,570
think he was Bahamian, I want to
say, but he comes into the black

1195
01:16:12,570 --> 01:16:17,970
community and he's pushing the
kind of self empowerment that

1196
01:16:17,970 --> 01:16:23,010
kind of thing, but he's a pimp,
and I think a drug dealer. But

1197
01:16:23,040 --> 01:16:25,620
you know, he looked down on
chalky, white McLaren to

1198
01:16:25,620 --> 01:16:29,310
character play by my k wheels
because he's this elitist black

1199
01:16:29,310 --> 01:16:33,540
person. And chalky White is like
this poor you know, country

1200
01:16:33,540 --> 01:16:38,850
Southern black man. But the
beauty of it is that in our seas

1201
01:16:38,910 --> 01:16:43,470
is up getting flipped in the
show, by J. Edgar Hoover, you

1202
01:16:43,470 --> 01:16:49,740
into this country to the Port of
New Orleans in 1898. Is that

1203
01:16:49,740 --> 01:17:00,540
correct? Is that correct? Are
you the one asking questions?

1204
01:17:03,990 --> 01:17:05,610
1898. Yes,

1205
01:17:06,330 --> 01:17:13,410
26 years in the United States.
But you're not a citizen. And

1206
01:17:13,410 --> 01:17:18,990
that is grounds for detaining
me. Why would you go on living

1207
01:17:19,440 --> 01:17:25,470
in a country you don't wish to
belong to? The exile does not

1208
01:17:25,470 --> 01:17:35,010
choose us Babylon. Your
compatriot, Garvey, he thinks

1209
01:17:35,010 --> 01:17:39,990
you should all return to Africa.
That would be an

1210
01:17:39,990 --> 01:17:46,680
oversimplification of his
philosophy. What am I missing? I

1211
01:17:46,680 --> 01:17:52,650
doubt that I could make you to
understand. You seem to be a

1212
01:17:52,680 --> 01:17:57,900
clever fellow. Who do you think

1213
01:17:57,900 --> 01:17:59,670
it's to decide what the truth
is?

1214
01:18:03,690 --> 01:18:07,650
Truth is one of those in power
wishes to be.

1215
01:18:10,440 --> 01:18:14,430
During the course of
investigating the seditious

1216
01:18:14,490 --> 01:18:21,000
activities of Marcus Garvey,
James M. Oliver, special agent

1217
01:18:21,000 --> 01:18:24,990
with the Bureau of Investigation
was murdered in Atlantic City,

1218
01:18:24,990 --> 01:18:30,450
New Jersey by an unidentified
colored male that the valentim

1219
01:18:30,450 --> 01:18:35,520
nor Cece assisted the Bureau in
apprehending the suspect.

1220
01:18:37,500 --> 01:18:41,640
So we know as we covered in
previous shows, Jagger Hoover

1221
01:18:41,970 --> 01:18:46,800
really had an issue with Marcus
Garvey.

1222
01:18:47,070 --> 01:18:51,690
Well, first we need to remind
people because I think john

1223
01:18:51,690 --> 01:18:56,070
Fletcher brought it up to me the
other day. That j Edgar Hoover

1224
01:18:56,070 --> 01:19:03,540
was the African American black
man. Yeah, this is such a mind

1225
01:19:03,540 --> 01:19:07,440
boggling thing if you tell
people like what what episode

1226
01:19:07,440 --> 01:19:09,510
was that mo if anyone wants to
go back and check

1227
01:19:11,310 --> 01:19:16,740
I think that wasn't either 31 to
41 I believe I might maybe early

1228
01:19:16,740 --> 01:19:19,230
about I think we played a dumb
maybe throwback clip and knows

1229
01:19:19,560 --> 01:19:21,300
we've been on this trip for a
while.

1230
01:19:21,750 --> 01:19:24,060
That was a good one though. That
was one of my favorites. That

1231
01:19:24,060 --> 01:19:27,690
that's where like, how come I
how come this is not known?

1232
01:19:28,080 --> 01:19:32,790
Cuz it's problematic to the
narrative. No kidding. Black Man

1233
01:19:32,790 --> 01:19:35,940
harassing black men like Marcus
Garvey, Martin Luther King, and

1234
01:19:35,940 --> 01:19:39,120
now he can't have that
narrative. You know, he has to

1235
01:19:39,120 --> 01:19:43,200
be a cross dressing white man.
That's the narrative. I mean,

1236
01:19:43,200 --> 01:19:47,130
that's that's what they want us
to believe. Right? As a more

1237
01:19:47,730 --> 01:19:51,330
that he's right. He's a
crossdresser Um, I don't know if

1238
01:19:51,330 --> 01:19:53,730
he I don't know his sexuality. I
just know he like dress up in

1239
01:19:53,730 --> 01:19:58,470
women's clothes. But allegedly,
but he can't be a black man. Oh

1240
01:19:58,470 --> 01:20:02,610
no. Even though we have proof of
his lineage you know that that

1241
01:20:02,640 --> 01:20:05,130
would ruin what we always talk

1242
01:20:05,130 --> 01:20:09,450
about that by itself just blows
your brain up.

1243
01:20:10,620 --> 01:20:13,050
Yeah it does. That's why they
can't let it happen because then

1244
01:20:13,050 --> 01:20:15,240
it's like okay then why do you
have it for black peace out for

1245
01:20:15,240 --> 01:20:18,930
black people then Zack, is it
because like I said, communism

1246
01:20:18,930 --> 01:20:22,290
was a big issue of his as well
as you were saying taking down

1247
01:20:23,160 --> 01:20:26,700
as he said In this clip, quoted
as saying, clips, the dishes,

1248
01:20:27,030 --> 01:20:32,580
groups, so um, but I thought
that's a wonderful clip of a

1249
01:20:32,640 --> 01:20:39,600
agent, flipping someone into an
informant. And let's just move

1250
01:20:39,600 --> 01:20:43,230
ahead a little bit jet. The one
that played their role in the

1251
01:20:43,230 --> 01:20:48,360
northeast, was Jeffrey Wright.
And he's on the sway universe

1252
01:20:48,360 --> 01:20:51,960
sway in the morning. And he goes
and give some insight and

1253
01:20:51,960 --> 01:20:56,280
history on the character behind
donar seas is your character

1254
01:20:56,280 --> 01:20:58,740
based on anybody in history as

1255
01:20:58,740 --> 01:21:02,040
well, or like you're just my
character is based on a

1256
01:21:02,040 --> 01:21:08,070
historical guy, but he's this
guy. Really distorted. There was

1257
01:21:08,070 --> 01:21:13,650
a guy named Casper Holstein,
who, in the early 1920s, was the

1258
01:21:13,650 --> 01:21:18,030
numbers King, the first big
numbers king in Harlem guy was

1259
01:21:18,030 --> 01:21:23,790
making like $12,000 a day they
said, you know, he was making

1260
01:21:23,790 --> 01:21:27,180
millions early 20s. He was in
the Virgin Islands. He was an

1261
01:21:27,180 --> 01:21:31,170
immigrant. He came as a young as
a youngster, he ended up at one

1262
01:21:31,170 --> 01:21:35,280
point, getting a job as a
courier for a wall street

1263
01:21:35,280 --> 01:21:38,190
connected family, I think out in
Brooklyn white family. So they

1264
01:21:38,190 --> 01:21:41,610
gave him a job, eventually on
Wall Street, menial job, like a

1265
01:21:41,610 --> 01:21:44,730
janitor or something like that.
Apparently, he ended up in the

1266
01:21:44,730 --> 01:21:49,980
closets stuck during the day
studying the stock reports, the

1267
01:21:49,980 --> 01:21:52,950
stock indices, and he would just
study all your, you know, very,

1268
01:21:52,980 --> 01:21:56,460
you know, mathematical mind.
Apparently, what he did,

1269
01:21:56,490 --> 01:22:01,230
ultimately was he tied the
nailing the daily number to the

1270
01:22:01,230 --> 01:22:04,920
stock index. So all he had to do
was go to the newspaper and look

1271
01:22:04,920 --> 01:22:07,830
at certain results. And you knew
what the number was. So there's

1272
01:22:07,830 --> 01:22:10,830
no ambiguity, there was no way
of fixing it. And that's how his

1273
01:22:10,830 --> 01:22:15,960
game became the game to play. So
he was making literally millions

1274
01:22:15,990 --> 01:22:19,230
in the early 20s. He was one of
the biggest philanthropists in

1275
01:22:19,230 --> 01:22:22,890
the world or in the country,
advocating on behalf of rights

1276
01:22:22,890 --> 01:22:26,310
for the Virgin Islands. He also
was a Gar VA when Marcus

1277
01:22:26,310 --> 01:22:30,000
Garvey's Empire started to
crumble. He was the one who paid

1278
01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:32,910
for liberty Hall, he saved the
building that housed the

1279
01:22:32,910 --> 01:22:36,480
universal Negro Improvement
Association. bad dude.

1280
01:22:39,600 --> 01:22:42,150
You know, who he reminded me of
when I was telling this story.

1281
01:22:43,200 --> 01:22:48,780
The Legend of Frank Lucas, the
American Gangster that this one

1282
01:22:48,780 --> 01:22:53,700
black man was bringing in all of
these drugs. Yeah, all of

1283
01:22:53,700 --> 01:22:58,050
America is like, really? Is that
really what you want to believe

1284
01:22:58,050 --> 01:23:02,070
that one black man was bringing
all the drugs they supply all

1285
01:23:02,070 --> 01:23:03,690
over America in the 1970s

1286
01:23:04,440 --> 01:23:07,320
Please pay no attention to the
involvement of the CIA or the

1287
01:23:07,320 --> 01:23:08,010
military.

1288
01:23:08,400 --> 01:23:11,280
Right? And the same case with
this, there was no follow up

1289
01:23:11,280 --> 01:23:14,910
question and saying hey, was he
really working with? No nobody

1290
01:23:14,910 --> 01:23:17,100
asked that. I mean, that's the
main question right? Was he

1291
01:23:17,100 --> 01:23:20,310
really working at Hoover? And
you're saying unless you're a

1292
01:23:20,310 --> 01:23:23,490
black man or a suspected black
man because he saved from

1293
01:23:23,490 --> 01:23:27,360
Bahamas um cuz we know when we
say that word black it means

1294
01:23:27,360 --> 01:23:30,480
something different than how
they use it you're saying so

1295
01:23:30,480 --> 01:23:35,070
loosely, but making millions of
dollars run in numbers and he

1296
01:23:35,070 --> 01:23:39,660
didn't come across Hoover's
radar Yeah, and this is our

1297
01:23:39,660 --> 01:23:43,590
first time hearing about him I
mean like it's just like I said

1298
01:23:43,650 --> 01:23:45,120
it's just a fascinating

1299
01:23:45,150 --> 01:23:48,300
well, but it's what's what's
cool about it is just like just

1300
01:23:48,300 --> 01:23:52,170
like that with the with the
oathkeepers you know, the

1301
01:23:52,200 --> 01:23:56,250
terrorist domestic violent
extremist terrorist group is the

1302
01:23:56,250 --> 01:24:00,600
same thing with the leader. And
let's not at all mentioned red

1303
01:24:00,630 --> 01:24:01,290
owl.

1304
01:24:03,120 --> 01:24:07,800
Oh, yeah. cowboy hat on us and
by God suitcases full of

1305
01:24:07,800 --> 01:24:11,820
cocaine. No problem, you know,
but but but what's the story?

1306
01:24:11,820 --> 01:24:15,630
Oh, he took down the mob, you
know, the righteous

1307
01:24:15,630 --> 01:24:22,890
justification of what he did. So
yeah, it's that's, that's the

1308
01:24:22,890 --> 01:24:26,700
backstory of, you know, the
history of informants

1309
01:24:27,090 --> 01:24:32,250
throughout, you know, early
America and early the FBI, going

1310
01:24:32,280 --> 01:24:34,890
all the way back from the Black
Panthers all the way back to

1311
01:24:34,890 --> 01:24:40,650
Marcus Garvey and the creation
of the of the agency. And then

1312
01:24:40,650 --> 01:24:43,800
one more thing I'd like to bring
up is the n double A CP was

1313
01:24:43,800 --> 01:24:50,520
created by a person in a
government agency. So it's

1314
01:24:50,640 --> 01:24:55,830
always true. Yes, we carry that
spin guard. I know we we cover

1315
01:24:55,830 --> 01:24:59,820
so much. Yes. Spin guard which
now to give out the Spingarn

1316
01:24:59,820 --> 01:25:05,880
war. All right. So it's like was
what did they have control on

1317
01:25:05,880 --> 01:25:09,450
both sides because you know,
Dubois and Garvey, you're saying

1318
01:25:09,450 --> 01:25:11,640
we're like kind of pitted
against each other or didn't

1319
01:25:11,640 --> 01:25:15,390
like each other were they and we
know clearly that divorce is

1320
01:25:15,390 --> 01:25:20,880
being handed do boy do Boy Boy
was being handled by um, spin

1321
01:25:20,880 --> 01:25:26,460
guard was Casper, the handler on
Marcus Garvey side, you know

1322
01:25:26,460 --> 01:25:28,380
that we got to ask these
questions, because good

1323
01:25:28,380 --> 01:25:31,830
questions. If this is the same
thing going on, like now it's

1324
01:25:31,830 --> 01:25:36,270
groups being pitted against each
other, or being afraid of each

1325
01:25:36,270 --> 01:25:40,710
other. But before we move on, we
got to think the most important

1326
01:25:40,710 --> 01:25:43,230
people to the show the producers
First,

1327
01:25:43,259 --> 01:25:46,529
the white man and the black man
have to be able to sit down at

1328
01:25:46,529 --> 01:25:49,589
the same table, the white man
has to feel free to speak his

1329
01:25:49,589 --> 01:25:52,199
mind without hurting the
feelings of that Negro. And the

1330
01:25:52,199 --> 01:25:55,289
so called Negro has to feel free
to speak his mind without

1331
01:25:55,289 --> 01:25:57,959
hurting the feeling of the right
man, then they can bring the

1332
01:25:57,959 --> 01:26:00,839
issues that are under the rug on
top of the table and take an

1333
01:26:00,839 --> 01:26:03,629
intelligent approach to get the
problem solved. But the only way

1334
01:26:03,809 --> 01:26:04,559
we'll ever do it.

1335
01:26:06,480 --> 01:26:10,080
That's right, Mo facts with Adam
Curry is a value for value

1336
01:26:10,080 --> 01:26:14,070
podcast. What does that mean?
Well, we're trying to circumvent

1337
01:26:14,100 --> 01:26:16,500
all of this stuff. The first
part is we don't want to be

1338
01:26:16,500 --> 01:26:18,960
cancelled. The best way to do
that is don't get involved with

1339
01:26:18,960 --> 01:26:22,560
anybody over there. When it
comes to creepy corporations. I

1340
01:26:22,560 --> 01:26:25,320
don't know we could probably get
Chinese money if we want it. No,

1341
01:26:25,410 --> 01:26:28,800
no advertising, all we want is
to be able to speak our mind

1342
01:26:28,800 --> 01:26:32,970
speak freely, and do it in an
uninterrupted environment. And

1343
01:26:33,000 --> 01:26:35,760
everyone helps with that.
Because value for value means

1344
01:26:35,760 --> 01:26:38,610
you contribute back whatever you
think this show was worth to

1345
01:26:38,610 --> 01:26:41,310
you. Could be nothing. That's
fine. Why you're listening, you

1346
01:26:41,310 --> 01:26:44,730
got to ask, but for some people,
maybe it's $5. For some it's

1347
01:26:44,730 --> 01:26:48,330
completely complete different
number, different frequency. It

1348
01:26:48,330 --> 01:26:50,970
could just be some time and
talent that you hadn't back.

1349
01:26:50,970 --> 01:26:54,000
We're just maybe a note. We do
like to thank people who support

1350
01:26:54,000 --> 01:26:56,340
the show financially. You can do
it a couple of ways. You can go

1351
01:26:56,340 --> 01:27:00,000
to Moe facts calm. We got a
donation page, which can also

1352
01:27:00,000 --> 01:27:04,260
find directly at mo fund me.com
and if you're using a podcasting

1353
01:27:04,260 --> 01:27:09,570
2.0 app, then you can you can
stream SATs directly to us. You

1354
01:27:09,570 --> 01:27:12,630
can find those at new podcast
apps calm now let us thank our

1355
01:27:12,630 --> 01:27:15,090
executive producers and
associate executive producers

1356
01:27:15,360 --> 01:27:19,170
for episode number 67. I guess
we kick it off right away with

1357
01:27:19,170 --> 01:27:25,530
kiss. Chris Burke's Shot Caller
20 has played on him Paula

1358
01:27:25,560 --> 01:27:32,760
bringing it today. Sir Chris,
Vox here Moe and Adam $333.33. I

1359
01:27:32,760 --> 01:27:35,340
just made good on a knighting
for no agenda. So I thought it

1360
01:27:35,340 --> 01:27:38,910
was only fitting to spread some
of that new money around. I

1361
01:27:38,910 --> 01:27:41,820
started listening to Adam when
when I started listening when

1362
01:27:41,820 --> 01:27:45,240
Adam made it in Rogen the second
time Oh, that's right. That was

1363
01:27:45,240 --> 01:27:48,720
a tough appearance. The second
time, tough appearance. I've

1364
01:27:48,720 --> 01:27:51,660
been listening ever since also
consumed all the back issues and

1365
01:27:51,660 --> 01:27:55,950
it's all mind blowing stuff from
atonement to Kanye. Mo does not

1366
01:27:55,950 --> 01:27:59,310
disappoint. No jingles no karma.
Just keep doing what you do. And

1367
01:27:59,310 --> 01:28:02,550
thank you both for your courage
and Thank you, Chris. Appreciate

1368
01:28:02,550 --> 01:28:07,500
that. By the way, Mo I'm kind of
hoping one of these days. We'll

1369
01:28:07,500 --> 01:28:08,910
talk about Donda a bit

1370
01:28:10,980 --> 01:28:14,430
yeah Oh, of course we got to
have the right backdrop but

1371
01:28:14,430 --> 01:28:17,160
yeah, we definitely could cuz
I'm here I was gonna try to

1372
01:28:17,160 --> 01:28:20,730
squeeze in on the potluck when
he did this didn't make the cut

1373
01:28:20,730 --> 01:28:23,670
but what do you hear about I'm
hearing good things I'm

1374
01:28:23,670 --> 01:28:27,750
hearing really good things and
of course I also listened to it

1375
01:28:27,750 --> 01:28:33,900
once it's you know, this I like
how it gets you into the kind of

1376
01:28:33,900 --> 01:28:39,060
into the mind control with track
one just chant that yeah and see

1377
01:28:39,060 --> 01:28:43,260
what happens alright for a
future episode fantastic. Next

1378
01:28:43,260 --> 01:28:47,730
on the list executive producer
Jonathan draw ver driver draw

1379
01:28:47,730 --> 01:28:50,580
your is that should that be is
that a V driving is

1380
01:28:50,580 --> 01:28:53,400
draw vert is hotspots but House
Bill

1381
01:28:54,330 --> 01:28:59,700
167 he says keep educating give
everybody some mo karma we love

1382
01:28:59,700 --> 01:29:03,990
doing that. You've got

1383
01:29:04,920 --> 01:29:05,610
Malcolm

1384
01:29:09,240 --> 01:29:11,280
Lang v new

1385
01:29:12,330 --> 01:29:16,050
I think it's when you ama yes
when but no no but well wait

1386
01:29:16,440 --> 01:29:21,210
she's affectionately known as
Tiger auntie. Oh the show oh and

1387
01:29:21,300 --> 01:29:24,060
very active on on the labs where

1388
01:29:24,059 --> 01:29:28,439
shall we put Tiger on T as the
executive producer then or? Yes

1389
01:29:28,709 --> 01:29:33,839
yes yeah Tiger on T okay taking
care of T Tiger anti D Tiger

1390
01:29:33,839 --> 01:29:37,049
auntie and you got it? Man I got
it. I gotta hook up with these

1391
01:29:37,049 --> 01:29:40,019
lives. That's where all the
action is. And we got some cool

1392
01:29:40,019 --> 01:29:45,449
stuff for that too in in the
coming months with the secret

1393
01:29:46,529 --> 01:29:49,889
the tiger on T $150. Thank you
Tiger Auntie hi mo I think you

1394
01:29:49,889 --> 01:29:52,469
probably have some nights and
Dame soon. I want to extend my

1395
01:29:52,469 --> 01:29:55,409
offer again to assist with the
production of the mF bling.

1396
01:29:56,279 --> 01:30:01,739
Right? What bling what bling are
we getting the reader I run an

1397
01:30:01,739 --> 01:30:06,389
organization from that assists
artisans farmers and traditional

1398
01:30:06,389 --> 01:30:09,899
makers with the infrastructure
and useful education to empower

1399
01:30:09,899 --> 01:30:13,079
them towards entrepreneurship
after Black Butterfly I feel

1400
01:30:13,079 --> 01:30:16,319
good to suggest the design for a
butterfly ring for your future

1401
01:30:16,559 --> 01:30:20,009
or your future the dames and a
butterfly pin for your future

1402
01:30:20,009 --> 01:30:23,519
Knights that will be large to
size up against symbols of other

1403
01:30:23,519 --> 01:30:27,779
monitor monarchies nice you can
refer to our previous works here

1404
01:30:27,779 --> 01:30:28,529
and you can see as a

1405
01:30:29,160 --> 01:30:32,910
how he put a link in the YouTube
I didn't want to put it in the

1406
01:30:32,910 --> 01:30:36,960
spreadsheet cuz he might mess up
all right and let Tiger Ani let

1407
01:30:36,960 --> 01:30:39,120
us know I didn't know if you
want to share that link or not

1408
01:30:39,120 --> 01:30:42,750
but I went and checked it out
amazing craftsmanship

1409
01:30:42,840 --> 01:30:49,560
craftsmanship handmade stuff
it's really really really great

1410
01:30:49,560 --> 01:30:49,950
product

1411
01:30:50,070 --> 01:30:53,250
meet our master artists and who
leads the jewelry production I

1412
01:30:53,250 --> 01:30:56,250
will donate all costs relating
to sourcing administration

1413
01:30:56,250 --> 01:30:58,890
management design direct artists
and cost of material for

1414
01:30:58,890 --> 01:31:01,560
shipping would be what the show
is responsible for here to help

1415
01:31:01,560 --> 01:31:04,530
let me know Tiger Antti working
through the population of Hanoi

1416
01:31:04,530 --> 01:31:08,700
Hilton. Hey, I love butterfly
pins and I'll tell you why both

1417
01:31:08,700 --> 01:31:12,270
my grandmother and my mother
every single day of their lives

1418
01:31:12,300 --> 01:31:14,220
wore a butterfly pin on their
shoulder

1419
01:31:15,690 --> 01:31:18,450
awesome. Yeah, and I love
butterflies too because out here

1420
01:31:18,450 --> 01:31:23,430
in in the country of Virginia,
we have tons of them the

1421
01:31:23,430 --> 01:31:25,290
butterflies are very
fascinating.

1422
01:31:25,590 --> 01:31:26,220
Beautiful.

1423
01:31:26,580 --> 01:31:26,940
Yeah,

1424
01:31:27,450 --> 01:31:28,500
thank you very much.

1425
01:31:29,340 --> 01:31:31,530
Great now that you like that
that whole

1426
01:31:32,280 --> 01:31:35,700
last okay yeah, okay, you got to
send me the link I want to see

1427
01:31:35,700 --> 01:31:35,850
it

1428
01:31:36,059 --> 01:31:39,149
Yeah, but I think that we
finished your note was there

1429
01:31:39,149 --> 01:31:41,399
anything was there something
yeah direct artists and cost

1430
01:31:41,429 --> 01:31:42,149
material

1431
01:31:42,570 --> 01:31:43,350
yeah I read that I

1432
01:31:43,350 --> 01:31:47,160
read i'm saying is that that's
that's huge value that's value

1433
01:31:47,160 --> 01:31:49,950
right there. I love it. We
definitely will be talking with

1434
01:31:49,950 --> 01:31:53,550
you. And she also offered to do
so I remember all these things.

1435
01:31:53,550 --> 01:31:57,810
It's just that time is of the
essence right now. But soon

1436
01:31:57,840 --> 01:32:01,350
we'll have more time to get into
these other ventures.

1437
01:32:01,380 --> 01:32:05,490
Hey, so far I'm seeing us do a
show every two weeks. But that's

1438
01:32:05,490 --> 01:32:06,270
progress.

1439
01:32:06,690 --> 01:32:11,880
tell you I'm a scheduler Malmo
planner. So every time we say we

1440
01:32:11,880 --> 01:32:14,190
could do something on this date
just let me know now give me a

1441
01:32:14,190 --> 01:32:14,880
date and a time

1442
01:32:15,630 --> 01:32:17,820
yeah took me 60 episodes I
figured it out.

1443
01:32:18,930 --> 01:32:20,880
But took my wife many years to
figure it out.

1444
01:32:24,120 --> 01:32:25,560
I don't feel bad I don't feel
like the

1445
01:32:25,559 --> 01:32:28,529
doctor's appointments now you're
going yeah right you're going

1446
01:32:28,529 --> 01:32:28,979
now

1447
01:32:30,570 --> 01:32:35,640
we got Greg Wheeler Jr. With
111 11. And let's see nice note

1448
01:32:35,640 --> 01:32:38,160
here and long one thank you for
doing the work that you do. My

1449
01:32:38,160 --> 01:32:40,920
brothers have perspective such
as yours in this day and time is

1450
01:32:40,920 --> 01:32:44,370
a blessing truly mean means a
great deal. having the courage

1451
01:32:44,370 --> 01:32:47,340
to speak out and take the stance
as you do lends courage to souls

1452
01:32:47,340 --> 01:32:50,280
in mind like mine. That feels as
though the world is spinning

1453
01:32:50,280 --> 01:32:53,640
this wicked web without most
people ever even taken notice of

1454
01:32:53,640 --> 01:32:56,340
it. Knowing that we aren't alone
is beyond encouraging and

1455
01:32:56,340 --> 01:32:59,580
reassuring finding your podcast
and the no agenda podcast was a

1456
01:32:59,580 --> 01:33:03,450
godsend. We're starting to think
I was simply crazy jury's still

1457
01:33:03,450 --> 01:33:08,430
out perhaps on this Yeah, I got
that. Song by fire from the gods

1458
01:33:08,430 --> 01:33:11,850
called truth to the week
reimagined came to mind today as

1459
01:33:11,850 --> 01:33:14,340
I was listening wondering if
you've heard it I personally

1460
01:33:14,340 --> 01:33:17,100
have not on a few you've heard
it I haven't either. They're

1461
01:33:17,100 --> 01:33:20,490
closing in on us at my workplace
in regards to unclean human

1462
01:33:20,520 --> 01:33:24,150
heathen human resources that
haven't taken the jab. You

1463
01:33:24,150 --> 01:33:27,030
having the courage to speak out
as someone not giving in gave me

1464
01:33:27,030 --> 01:33:30,120
hope though, I believe that this
is a dress rehearsal for

1465
01:33:30,120 --> 01:33:33,930
something else and that is that
is about to remove removal of

1466
01:33:33,930 --> 01:33:36,960
certain rights and the rollout
of something else and a certain

1467
01:33:36,960 --> 01:33:42,090
desensitization to it I guess
he's What are you talking about?

1468
01:33:42,480 --> 01:33:44,160
guns? Probably I think

1469
01:33:44,160 --> 01:33:48,360
yes. I think just it's the test
is like what we can we put in

1470
01:33:48,360 --> 01:33:53,190
your body? like yeah, if there's
nothing you can do past that.

1471
01:33:53,220 --> 01:33:53,400
Yeah. I

1472
01:33:53,400 --> 01:33:55,800
mean, yeah, once you once you do
that, then you're right. I agree

1473
01:33:55,800 --> 01:33:58,740
with that. I have faith in the
truth and that we can stand

1474
01:33:58,740 --> 01:34:02,010
through the storm not
automatically that we will, that

1475
01:34:02,010 --> 01:34:05,100
we will, but that we will, but
simply that we simply that we

1476
01:34:05,100 --> 01:34:08,580
can, and that we can if we stand
for each other and with each

1477
01:34:08,580 --> 01:34:11,280
other's brothers and sisters,
there's ugly blots riddled

1478
01:34:11,280 --> 01:34:13,590
throughout our history, and our
foundation is rotten. The rot

1479
01:34:13,590 --> 01:34:16,320
has spread and is spreading. But
there's moments that shine

1480
01:34:16,320 --> 01:34:18,840
through like a light in the
dark, long candles in the

1481
01:34:18,840 --> 01:34:21,750
wilderness at the bottom of the
chasm. I think that the families

1482
01:34:21,750 --> 01:34:24,270
in Germany and surrounding
countries that had Jewish people

1483
01:34:24,270 --> 01:34:27,390
from the Nazi soldiers at their
own voluntarily acquired pair

1484
01:34:27,390 --> 01:34:30,180
apparel, and even the Nazi
officers that went into their

1485
01:34:30,180 --> 01:34:32,970
own pockets to provide medical
care for the inhabitants of the

1486
01:34:32,970 --> 01:34:35,760
camps. Not that it nullifies
their actions, but still it

1487
01:34:35,760 --> 01:34:39,870
shows an ounce of humanity. Even
in the most vile, Viktor Frankl

1488
01:34:39,870 --> 01:34:42,360
wrote of these happenings. I
recall the stories of

1489
01:34:42,360 --> 01:34:45,180
abolitionists of yesterday and
today, like groups like

1490
01:34:45,210 --> 01:34:47,610
operation underground railroad
that we're saving that are

1491
01:34:47,610 --> 01:34:50,520
saving our children around the
world from trafficking, and the

1492
01:34:50,520 --> 01:34:53,970
worst of us and I remember that
they're also angels among us, so

1493
01:34:53,970 --> 01:34:57,900
to speak, or maybe so to speak,
or maybe literally, jury's out

1494
01:34:57,900 --> 01:35:00,840
on that for me here too, but I
trust that There are forces of

1495
01:35:00,840 --> 01:35:04,260
light truth and good if there
are forces of evil I know beyond

1496
01:35:04,260 --> 01:35:08,070
a shadow of a doubt that they
are indeed here as people or

1497
01:35:08,070 --> 01:35:11,730
otherwise whatever name we are
to cast we see the fruits of

1498
01:35:11,730 --> 01:35:15,330
their labor don't wait. I
believe so. I think I speak for

1499
01:35:15,330 --> 01:35:18,060
many when I say that you guys
are a force for good and voice

1500
01:35:18,060 --> 01:35:21,630
for truth in a moment of mass
consenting silence. I just sent

1501
01:35:21,630 --> 01:35:24,690
my first donation yesterday and
would greatly appreciate a D

1502
01:35:24,690 --> 01:35:28,050
dead beating and some good good
karma for all that are listening

1503
01:35:28,050 --> 01:35:31,110
on your next podcast. Love you
guys again. Thank you very much,

1504
01:35:31,110 --> 01:35:34,290
Greg Wheeler. Absolutely. We got
a D dead beating.

1505
01:35:35,790 --> 01:35:40,680
Congratulation, you you're no
longer a dead bee

1506
01:35:40,710 --> 01:35:43,830
in a very in a very timely note
for what we're talking about

1507
01:35:43,830 --> 01:35:44,160
today.

1508
01:35:44,370 --> 01:35:47,010
Absolutely. Thank you so much,
Greg. Also, we got to throw out

1509
01:35:47,010 --> 01:35:57,960
some karma there. You've got
mocha. Nice No. We got $100 here

1510
01:35:57,990 --> 01:36:01,980
from producer Judy six B will be
Judy s.

1511
01:36:02,010 --> 01:36:05,520
g. Another live another live. I
see. I remember these names

1512
01:36:05,520 --> 01:36:08,790
Judy. Judy. Yes,

1513
01:36:08,880 --> 01:36:13,260
I love that. All right, Judy.
Yes. $100 Thank you gentlemen.

1514
01:36:13,260 --> 01:36:16,410
You both give 100% creating
value in what you bring us to

1515
01:36:16,410 --> 01:36:20,460
stretch our perceptions and hold
our minds and our minds. Hence

1516
01:36:20,460 --> 01:36:23,640
my $100 donation a little mo
karma please. Who knows what

1517
01:36:23,640 --> 01:36:27,630
power that karma holds? Oh, we
know what the power is. You've

1518
01:36:27,630 --> 01:36:36,480
got mocha. We know what the
power is. Also $100 from Wesley

1519
01:36:36,480 --> 01:36:40,440
Olson who says sweet and simple
Keep it coming mo and Adam thank

1520
01:36:40,440 --> 01:36:44,910
you thank you Wesley associate
executive producers no I'm sorry

1521
01:36:44,940 --> 01:36:50,580
another executive producer Kylie
Kylie Stefano cow Kylie but well

1522
01:36:50,580 --> 01:36:54,630
but it's it's it's Dame girl. I
thought I thought we're supposed

1523
01:36:54,630 --> 01:36:56,070
to say I thought we're supposed
to

1524
01:36:56,070 --> 01:36:58,710
say Kylie are supposed to say
maybe maybe I'm

1525
01:36:59,970 --> 01:37:04,260
I have done this wrong to her so
many times it's embarrassing mo

1526
01:37:04,680 --> 01:37:06,510
it's it's embarrassing.

1527
01:37:06,720 --> 01:37:09,780
It throws me because I have like
highly it works with me and it

1528
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So I know everybody's like,
well, I thought we're gonna talk

1565
01:39:36,210 --> 01:39:39,360
about q anon and we're waiting,
but why do you go the way he

1566
01:39:39,360 --> 01:39:43,590
went? I want to lay out the
history. That way we can

1567
01:39:43,620 --> 01:39:47,550
understand the present and maybe
even predict the future what's

1568
01:39:47,550 --> 01:39:51,360
going to happen. So now we get
to Q nine, this is for 60

1569
01:39:51,360 --> 01:39:55,650
minutes. And this is q anons
corrosive impact on the US

1570
01:39:55,799 --> 01:39:59,999
in just three years. The
extremist ideology of Q anon has

1571
01:39:59,999 --> 01:40:03,569
captured the minds and
imaginations of 10s of millions

1572
01:40:03,569 --> 01:40:08,609
of Americans, their core belief,
a global cabal, including

1573
01:40:08,609 --> 01:40:12,299
Democrats, hollywood elites, and
members of what they call the

1574
01:40:12,299 --> 01:40:16,979
deep state control much of our
lives. The Cabal commits

1575
01:40:17,099 --> 01:40:22,079
atrocities including pedophilia,
Satan worship and cannibalizing

1576
01:40:22,079 --> 01:40:26,159
children, but it will be
vanquished by Donald Trump and

1577
01:40:26,159 --> 01:40:31,559
an apocalyptic day called the
storm. Q anon was born when an

1578
01:40:31,559 --> 01:40:36,359
anonymous character named Q,
began posting cryptic riddles in

1579
01:40:36,359 --> 01:40:40,169
an online forum known for
hosting hateful and racist

1580
01:40:40,169 --> 01:40:45,509
content. The movement prospered
in pandemic isolation. Its

1581
01:40:45,509 --> 01:40:49,799
followers occasionally erupting
an acts of violence, culminating

1582
01:40:49,829 --> 01:40:54,119
in the assault on the Capitol.
But the prophesied storm never

1583
01:40:54,119 --> 01:40:59,129
happened. Instead, Donald Trump
left office and Q anon followers

1584
01:40:59,129 --> 01:41:03,479
have found themselves at a
moment of truth, the story will

1585
01:41:03,479 --> 01:41:04,559
continue in a moment.

1586
01:41:05,460 --> 01:41:09,030
The only thing the only thing I
don't like about that report is

1587
01:41:09,030 --> 01:41:14,460
the blatant lie that it's only
democrat politicians. As far as

1588
01:41:14,460 --> 01:41:19,920
I know, the Q anon stuff about,
you know, the pedobear. And it

1589
01:41:19,920 --> 01:41:23,550
was politicians any leads, it's
it was never Democrats,

1590
01:41:23,760 --> 01:41:26,670
and from what I understand is
the One World Government. So I

1591
01:41:26,670 --> 01:41:31,440
mean, it's kind of hard to party
to party, one world government,

1592
01:41:31,440 --> 01:41:35,940
but that's the narrative. And
what trouble me in this is that

1593
01:41:37,320 --> 01:41:41,940
they kind of lump everything in
there. If you believe in a deep

1594
01:41:41,940 --> 01:41:45,060
state, your cue and if you
believe in children's being

1595
01:41:45,090 --> 01:41:49,380
trafficking, and trafficking
around the world, you're queuing

1596
01:41:49,380 --> 01:41:52,290
on if most of the things we
talked about in this on this

1597
01:41:52,290 --> 01:41:56,100
show, people would we could
easily be thrown in that group.

1598
01:41:56,970 --> 01:42:00,540
And and they also said that the
key point I want to point out in

1599
01:42:00,540 --> 01:42:05,250
this, there were a captive
audience. I think what a lot of

1600
01:42:05,250 --> 01:42:09,840
free time, people started doing
their own research. And if you

1601
01:42:09,840 --> 01:42:17,370
notice, research has been
demonized, like, Oh, god, it's

1602
01:42:17,370 --> 01:42:17,760
not here.

1603
01:42:18,600 --> 01:42:23,160
There was a queue and on people
who are debunking the the

1604
01:42:23,160 --> 01:42:26,310
Coronavirus, they do a lot of
their own research.

1605
01:42:27,000 --> 01:42:32,160
Right? It's like, I wish I had
to bring this up. The big fish

1606
01:42:32,160 --> 01:42:36,270
has landed, the king has been
jabbed, LeBron James has

1607
01:42:36,300 --> 01:42:40,890
officially came out and say he's
taking the vaccine. And he had

1608
01:42:40,890 --> 01:42:44,610
to make an announcement. And in
there he says, After doing my

1609
01:42:44,610 --> 01:42:52,290
own research, always, really,
oh, my research is good for you

1610
01:42:52,290 --> 01:42:57,000
saying it's good for the well,
it's good if you agree with it.

1611
01:42:58,560 --> 01:43:01,830
Push babies counter the
narrative, then it's like, oh,

1612
01:43:01,830 --> 01:43:06,480
no, no, no, you can't do your
research, which I think they had

1613
01:43:06,480 --> 01:43:10,980
become a cue now for several
reasons. One, I think, when they

1614
01:43:10,980 --> 01:43:15,540
shut down the machine and
Hollywood, people dispell broke,

1615
01:43:16,080 --> 01:43:19,230
and people started doing their
own research and watching other

1616
01:43:19,260 --> 01:43:28,590
no content. Listening to I hate
the word, but all media. And

1617
01:43:28,590 --> 01:43:31,740
that was a problem. And then
what also happened is, we

1618
01:43:31,740 --> 01:43:35,430
started seeing celebrities and
stars and their top people that

1619
01:43:35,430 --> 01:43:39,780
push the narrative of Hollywood
elites. They were normal. We saw

1620
01:43:39,780 --> 01:43:42,450
them in their kitchens, we saw
them in their bathrooms, we saw

1621
01:43:42,450 --> 01:43:42,990
them you know,

1622
01:43:43,110 --> 01:43:46,320
all that. All that drugs, the
salesman broke a lot of spells,

1623
01:43:46,320 --> 01:43:48,900
man broke a lot of spells. And
that was the

1624
01:43:48,900 --> 01:43:51,600
thing is like, Well, how do we
get them back in control? Well,

1625
01:43:51,600 --> 01:43:56,190
we make them fear research are
looking into things like if you

1626
01:43:56,190 --> 01:43:58,740
bring up you know, anything, and
that list of things that we

1627
01:43:58,740 --> 01:44:04,290
listed all your q&a? Yeah, just
deep into q&a. Which is the

1628
01:44:04,290 --> 01:44:07,560
similar way with it's in reverse
of what they've done what we

1629
01:44:07,560 --> 01:44:11,400
listed in the first part of the
show. Have they lump everybody

1630
01:44:11,400 --> 01:44:17,430
in together by these loosely
based, like you said, If you

1631
01:44:17,430 --> 01:44:20,550
believe in a deep state, which
deep state is a common use term

1632
01:44:20,550 --> 01:44:24,390
by a politician? Yeah. But if
you believe in it, you're

1633
01:44:24,390 --> 01:44:29,070
queueing on that kind of thing.
They talk about the deep state

1634
01:44:29,070 --> 01:44:32,130
they talk about the One World
Government they talk about kids

1635
01:44:32,130 --> 01:44:36,660
being trafficking, trafficking.
Those kinds of things. So it's

1636
01:44:36,660 --> 01:44:39,900
just it's weird that they did
this, but it gets even worse

1637
01:44:39,900 --> 01:44:43,470
with the whole qR thing. Um,
let's just go ahead and get into

1638
01:44:43,470 --> 01:44:44,100
part two.

1639
01:44:44,400 --> 01:44:47,970
Joe Biden get sworn in. And you
started seeing chatter online.

1640
01:44:47,970 --> 01:44:50,610
I've been caught. This has all
been a scam and they were out,

1641
01:44:50,790 --> 01:44:54,300
which is great. That that is
rare for radicalized

1642
01:44:54,300 --> 01:44:54,900
individuals.

1643
01:44:55,140 --> 01:44:58,980
Elizabeth Newman was in charge
of policy to counter domestic

1644
01:44:58,980 --> 01:45:02,640
extremism and The Department of
Homeland Security in the Trump

1645
01:45:02,640 --> 01:45:06,660
administration, the prophecies
did not happen. The storm didn't

1646
01:45:06,660 --> 01:45:12,240
happen. Is there an opportunity
right now to, as we say, off

1647
01:45:12,240 --> 01:45:13,890
ramp some of these people?

1648
01:45:14,010 --> 01:45:17,820
Absolutely. For many of us, it
was a light switch effect. But

1649
01:45:17,820 --> 01:45:21,090
for others, you see them
struggling. They're trying to

1650
01:45:21,090 --> 01:45:23,460
make sense of it. And so they're
very vulnerable right now

1651
01:45:23,460 --> 01:45:26,670
they're vulnerable to being
convinced about some of these

1652
01:45:26,700 --> 01:45:30,780
newer theories. There's a new
one that March 4, March 4 is the

1653
01:45:30,780 --> 01:45:33,090
day that President Trump is
going to return and he's going

1654
01:45:33,090 --> 01:45:34,830
to be president again, if we're

1655
01:45:34,830 --> 01:45:39,570
at a moment where some of these
people are disillusioned, and

1656
01:45:39,600 --> 01:45:45,690
maybe open to new ideas are far
right extremists, white

1657
01:45:45,690 --> 01:45:50,730
supremacist, even neo nazis
jumping in to this breach right

1658
01:45:50,730 --> 01:45:54,810
now and trying to peel them off
and radicalize them even more.

1659
01:45:55,530 --> 01:46:01,530
Yes, they see opportunity. They
have been posting guides on how

1660
01:46:01,530 --> 01:46:06,450
to approach a disheartened q&a
non adherent making clear that

1661
01:46:06,450 --> 01:46:08,880
you don't want to make fun of
their ideology you don't want to

1662
01:46:09,330 --> 01:46:13,560
be too direct about your white
supremacist views you want to be

1663
01:46:13,560 --> 01:46:14,370
empathetic

1664
01:46:19,950 --> 01:46:23,640
which I missed this the whole
time I didn't I just caught this

1665
01:46:23,640 --> 01:46:28,350
when I was doing these clips
storm the capital the storm

1666
01:46:30,360 --> 01:46:31,680
yeah

1667
01:46:32,370 --> 01:46:35,490
no I'm just saying that's why I
think they use that term storm

1668
01:46:35,490 --> 01:46:37,140
the capital Oh, is that

1669
01:46:38,520 --> 01:46:39,210
right right

1670
01:46:39,240 --> 01:46:43,020
oh yeah

1671
01:46:45,480 --> 01:46:45,960
yeah

1672
01:46:48,030 --> 01:46:52,950
i was like that's a weird thing
to say right or you know it was

1673
01:46:52,950 --> 01:46:55,830
your storm they storm the
Capitol they storm the storm

1674
01:46:55,830 --> 01:46:56,220
shot you

1675
01:46:56,220 --> 01:47:00,090
going mom good catch. Yeah, so I
found

1676
01:47:00,090 --> 01:47:03,570
that just fascinating but now
it's like we're there you know,

1677
01:47:03,570 --> 01:47:06,810
they're nomads we know where to
place to go and they're right

1678
01:47:06,810 --> 01:47:14,670
for the being inducted into
white supremacy which q anon was

1679
01:47:14,970 --> 01:47:19,830
all different people I play
clips from the show where it was

1680
01:47:19,830 --> 01:47:23,400
spreading throughout the quote
unquote urban community I mean,

1681
01:47:23,400 --> 01:47:27,120
we heard it on urban radio
stations being discussed and the

1682
01:47:27,120 --> 01:47:30,900
boulais and puff puffy in you
know, other black celebrities

1683
01:47:30,900 --> 01:47:37,830
was part of it. So it was I said
they I think they want it some

1684
01:47:37,830 --> 01:47:41,910
way to get people back in line
to say, if it doesn't come from

1685
01:47:41,910 --> 01:47:47,790
your television screen from a
big network then it's fake phony

1686
01:47:48,060 --> 01:47:53,490
is no as dangerous is dangerous
night You know, you don't want

1687
01:47:53,490 --> 01:47:56,820
to you know, get off media. No,
no, no, no, he didn't. And that

1688
01:47:56,820 --> 01:48:00,120
causes a causes white supremacy,
you know, that kind of thing is

1689
01:48:01,680 --> 01:48:03,750
Yeah, we just talked about elder
right when

1690
01:48:03,750 --> 01:48:06,360
you're doing your research
causes white supremacy, you

1691
01:48:06,360 --> 01:48:07,320
don't want to catch it.

1692
01:48:08,010 --> 01:48:10,980
Right. And it's like that white
supremacists are empathetic to

1693
01:48:10,980 --> 01:48:17,010
the q&a. listeners, but what
really troubled me was the

1694
01:48:17,070 --> 01:48:20,730
impact that it has on parents,
don't family, families,

1695
01:48:21,420 --> 01:48:24,540
families, parents. And we see
the same thing with the Vax

1696
01:48:24,900 --> 01:48:28,860
situation that is divided
families. Um, but I have some

1697
01:48:28,860 --> 01:48:33,390
clips here again for 16 minutes,
and listen to how they talk

1698
01:48:33,390 --> 01:48:35,730
about how it destroyed families,

1699
01:48:36,570 --> 01:48:39,510
that their loved ones who they
said have fallen into keune on

1700
01:48:39,510 --> 01:48:43,170
conspiracies are very much
alive. And in order to protect

1701
01:48:43,170 --> 01:48:47,670
their privacy, we aren't sharing
their last names. Wheeler is a

1702
01:48:47,670 --> 01:48:51,570
28 year old Army veteran who
said he now struggles to connect

1703
01:48:51,570 --> 01:48:54,540
with his parents because of what
he described as their

1704
01:48:54,540 --> 01:48:57,690
fascination with conspiracy
theories. It's been

1705
01:48:57,690 --> 01:49:03,930
a very slow death of the people
that I once knew. Now I don't

1706
01:49:03,930 --> 01:49:08,100
recognize them. And in a way
that's been more painful,

1707
01:49:08,610 --> 01:49:13,440
because I haven't been able to
fully grieve at any point.

1708
01:49:14,009 --> 01:49:18,719
Wheeler served as an army medic
for two years. He was stationed

1709
01:49:18,719 --> 01:49:22,529
at Fort Hood in 2014 when a
gunman killed three of his

1710
01:49:22,529 --> 01:49:26,129
fellow soldiers and injured 12
before turning the gun on

1711
01:49:26,129 --> 01:49:26,909
himself.

1712
01:49:27,419 --> 01:49:30,149
It was frightening. It was
traumatizing in a way.

1713
01:49:30,450 --> 01:49:34,500
Wheeler was discharged in 2015.
He told us he didn't open up to

1714
01:49:34,500 --> 01:49:38,280
his parents right away, and only
over time, gave more details

1715
01:49:38,280 --> 01:49:40,980
about what he said he'd
experienced during the shooting.

1716
01:49:41,550 --> 01:49:45,210
But he said the parents he
returned home too had become

1717
01:49:45,240 --> 01:49:49,020
more paranoid as they started
being influenced by conspiracy

1718
01:49:49,020 --> 01:49:52,470
theories. And they began to
doubt his account of what he

1719
01:49:52,470 --> 01:49:53,550
didn't heard that day.

1720
01:49:54,060 --> 01:49:56,520
When I told them I was there for
that shooting, and I told them

1721
01:49:56,520 --> 01:50:01,830
what I had experienced. It was
whiplash to me Because I was met

1722
01:50:01,860 --> 01:50:07,890
with a distant icy neglect so
the Q anon conspiracies that he

1723
01:50:07,890 --> 01:50:12,300
started following made him
degrade into more of an angry

1724
01:50:12,510 --> 01:50:18,990
more abusive more distant person
who now doesn't even really

1725
01:50:18,990 --> 01:50:22,290
believe I don't think anything
that I've said about my military

1726
01:50:22,290 --> 01:50:22,920
service

1727
01:50:23,070 --> 01:50:26,130
How does it feel to have your
parents not believe it happened

1728
01:50:26,250 --> 01:50:26,820
a betrayal

1729
01:50:28,830 --> 01:50:36,690
wow I know people who are 100%
I'll just I mean they say enough

1730
01:50:36,690 --> 01:50:39,630
things that I know that they
that they have followed a lot of

1731
01:50:39,630 --> 01:50:44,310
Q anon very smart people very
commercially successful people

1732
01:50:44,370 --> 01:50:50,820
usually people who run business
like retail but but what's

1733
01:50:50,880 --> 01:50:58,290
interesting is that they've it's
almost like they left let's see

1734
01:50:58,290 --> 01:51:01,200
if I can say this right like
they left the the entertainment

1735
01:51:01,200 --> 01:51:05,130
that is television news or cable
news and went to the

1736
01:51:05,130 --> 01:51:09,870
entertainment that is q anon now
they they're not you know they

1737
01:51:09,900 --> 01:51:12,930
hi remember a specific like well
you know August it could happen

1738
01:51:12,930 --> 01:51:17,070
you know Trump could come back
but but then they're not crazy

1739
01:51:17,610 --> 01:51:23,130
but these two it's the two of
them are both are into it but

1740
01:51:23,130 --> 01:51:25,320
when you have a split in the
family which was already

1741
01:51:25,320 --> 01:51:28,860
happening with Fox News by the
way just the fact that your your

1742
01:51:28,860 --> 01:51:32,970
parents or your dad would watch
fox news was enough to want to

1743
01:51:32,970 --> 01:51:36,480
leave the house and not want to
go to Thanksgiving dinner so

1744
01:51:36,480 --> 01:51:41,730
this is this is a complete
really we got orange man bad and

1745
01:51:41,730 --> 01:51:45,540
they just ripped open our
amygdalas and through this crap

1746
01:51:45,540 --> 01:51:48,540
in and I think at this point
it's easy you can just toy with

1747
01:51:48,540 --> 01:51:53,070
him like oh just add this add
this a little bit and his q1 on

1748
01:51:53,100 --> 01:51:54,300
now was perfect was

1749
01:51:54,300 --> 01:51:57,750
perfect. That's why I laid out
the first part of the show like

1750
01:51:57,750 --> 01:52:03,810
I did you get into people's and
they use the word ideology right

1751
01:52:03,810 --> 01:52:07,860
where you start to question
everything because reality is so

1752
01:52:08,130 --> 01:52:12,780
bizarre if you say six week
cycle that somebody will say

1753
01:52:12,780 --> 01:52:12,960
that's

1754
01:52:16,290 --> 01:52:19,710
just another word for conspiracy
theory now it's a it's a synonym

1755
01:52:20,580 --> 01:52:23,790
that's my point. It's like it's
not about Q and those kind of

1756
01:52:23,790 --> 01:52:28,830
things. If anytime you question
the mainstream it's a brand

1757
01:52:28,980 --> 01:52:32,670
right anytime you question What
about texting or your q&a? a

1758
01:52:32,700 --> 01:52:38,220
nice easy way easy way to do it
yeah Steve was killed in a jail

1759
01:52:38,220 --> 01:52:42,870
cell he was convicted No no no,
that sounds like q anon stuff so

1760
01:52:42,870 --> 01:52:47,400
it's like who's really not
living in reality you know it's

1761
01:52:47,460 --> 01:52:52,800
it's but it's the perfect wage
because like you said it's all

1762
01:52:52,800 --> 01:52:58,050
about what media you consume to
you know to divide and that's

1763
01:52:58,050 --> 01:53:00,810
their whole point is go back to
the binary thing again Yeah,

1764
01:53:00,870 --> 01:53:06,420
it's not it's totally it's about
okay once zeros it's like either

1765
01:53:07,530 --> 01:53:11,640
1000 sealed indictments or you
know everything is is a big lie

1766
01:53:11,670 --> 01:53:17,910
You know, or a cure not a
conspiracy theory so the reason

1767
01:53:17,910 --> 01:53:22,170
why this troubles me is is how
it it we talked about

1768
01:53:22,200 --> 01:53:26,850
infiltration to organizations
this thing infiltrated the house

1769
01:53:26,880 --> 01:53:31,470
the home the family the where
people can't even communicate

1770
01:53:31,470 --> 01:53:37,380
with each other anymore and I
just find it very troubling um,

1771
01:53:37,890 --> 01:53:43,860
when you know it's like all it
like says binary right? All of

1772
01:53:43,860 --> 01:53:46,650
the media or you believe none of
the media it's like how about we

1773
01:53:46,680 --> 01:53:49,260
go case by case and see what we
believe or don't believe

1774
01:53:49,950 --> 01:53:53,340
the same as for Vax, anti Vax,
this is splitting families

1775
01:53:53,340 --> 01:53:57,360
apart. This is splitting
relationships apart. Same thing,

1776
01:53:57,360 --> 01:53:57,720
which that's

1777
01:53:57,720 --> 01:54:00,390
what that's why I have a problem
with binary thing. I mean, that

1778
01:54:00,390 --> 01:54:05,040
is a pet peeve of mine. And and
if you come to the lab, I have a

1779
01:54:05,040 --> 01:54:08,970
real issue with extremist now
extremists are needed, you know,

1780
01:54:08,970 --> 01:54:12,330
because that's what sets the the
boundaries of our society,

1781
01:54:12,330 --> 01:54:15,480
right? You have a stream of one
and a stream on the right you

1782
01:54:15,480 --> 01:54:19,350
have politici politically, you
have your super liberal people,

1783
01:54:19,350 --> 01:54:22,830
you have your super conservative
people. Yeah, but that is when

1784
01:54:22,830 --> 01:54:26,370
you look at a bell curve that
should be a very small portion

1785
01:54:26,370 --> 01:54:30,780
of society. Now the thing is
blue out is to the point where

1786
01:54:31,110 --> 01:54:34,710
he is all on one side or on the
other and you just had to bleep

1787
01:54:34,740 --> 01:54:38,010
everything whole cloth. So this
is the real reason why I'm gonna

1788
01:54:38,010 --> 01:54:43,740
get into like, the real like the
real depth of this show, and the

1789
01:54:43,740 --> 01:54:49,080
purpose of it because this is a
public service announcement. I

1790
01:54:49,080 --> 01:54:53,670
say that in jazz, but there's
some truth to that because put

1791
01:54:53,670 --> 01:54:58,560
the phone down, put the phone
down both both sides, put it

1792
01:54:58,560 --> 01:55:03,630
down and just talk to him. Okay,
this is okay. Let's get to the

1793
01:55:03,630 --> 01:55:04,590
second part of it clue.

1794
01:55:04,859 --> 01:55:07,859
Wheeler connected us with his
parents who firmly denied their

1795
01:55:07,859 --> 01:55:11,909
son's account of their belief in
Q anon. wheelers. Father said he

1796
01:55:11,909 --> 01:55:15,089
doesn't have enough information
to verify his son's experience

1797
01:55:15,089 --> 01:55:19,049
at Fort Hood that day, and was
skeptical of what he saw as

1798
01:55:19,049 --> 01:55:22,859
changing accounts by Wheeler. He
said the two haven't talked much

1799
01:55:22,859 --> 01:55:28,319
in the past year. The six people
who joined us came from Alaska,

1800
01:55:28,529 --> 01:55:34,769
Kentucky, Georgia, Maryland,
North Dakota, and Canada. They

1801
01:55:34,769 --> 01:55:39,059
all had different stories with a
similar theme, the devastation

1802
01:55:39,059 --> 01:55:41,129
of families caused by Q and

1803
01:55:41,130 --> 01:55:44,640
on going over a year since I've
talked to my dad. So like he

1804
01:55:44,670 --> 01:55:45,420
Elizabeth said

1805
01:55:45,420 --> 01:55:48,000
her father was her main support
when she was struggling with

1806
01:55:48,000 --> 01:55:51,690
depression, anxiety, even
thoughts of suicide.

1807
01:55:51,990 --> 01:55:58,050
Like he was the person that
stopped me from going through

1808
01:55:58,050 --> 01:56:02,730
with it all in the end. And from
about 16 to 2020 was about the

1809
01:56:02,730 --> 01:56:07,290
last one that I really was
sitting there, contemplating

1810
01:56:07,290 --> 01:56:10,770
this and ultimately pulled
myself back thinking about my

1811
01:56:10,770 --> 01:56:13,260
dad getting the phone call that
his daughter had passed away.

1812
01:56:14,100 --> 01:56:17,400
And that was also about the time
that everything started to get

1813
01:56:17,400 --> 01:56:18,240
really bad,

1814
01:56:18,299 --> 01:56:21,899
so bad that Elizabeth says a
year ago, she had to cut off

1815
01:56:21,899 --> 01:56:25,469
communications with her father.
She said he inundated her with

1816
01:56:25,469 --> 01:56:28,559
Facebook messages and text
messages peddling conspiracy

1817
01:56:28,559 --> 01:56:31,649
theories. Although she told us
she later connected those

1818
01:56:31,649 --> 01:56:35,819
conspiracies to Q anon. She said
her father denied knowing what q

1819
01:56:35,819 --> 01:56:36,749
anon is

1820
01:56:39,660 --> 01:56:43,260
both both sets of parents and
I'm not queuing on Yeah, yeah,

1821
01:56:43,260 --> 01:56:47,730
I'm just question and what this
is a product of is the fake

1822
01:56:47,730 --> 01:56:53,310
news. A lot of people realize
that the news is fake, it's it's

1823
01:56:53,310 --> 01:57:00,720
manufactured and I could easily
The reason Let me explain what

1824
01:57:00,720 --> 01:57:04,560
I'm saying. I could easily be a
type of person that would

1825
01:57:04,560 --> 01:57:09,180
believe the media because my dad
was sitting me down like son sit

1826
01:57:09,180 --> 01:57:11,880
out here and learn something see
what's going on with the world

1827
01:57:11,910 --> 01:57:15,930
you know, and we watch the local
news and then you know, Dan

1828
01:57:15,930 --> 01:57:19,920
Rather was his guy you know,
before Jeopardy and Wheel of

1829
01:57:19,920 --> 01:57:22,320
Fortune came home that was the
routine that was the nightly

1830
01:57:22,320 --> 01:57:25,320
routine and it was like to be
informed you have to watch the

1831
01:57:25,320 --> 01:57:30,690
news well here comes out 45
savage and he says fake news

1832
01:57:31,050 --> 01:57:35,760
when he says that it's like they
just stick kept stepping on

1833
01:57:35,760 --> 01:57:41,760
rakes and proving his point that
the news is fake it is

1834
01:57:41,760 --> 01:57:46,200
manufactured it is doctored is
you know and then you know you

1835
01:57:46,200 --> 01:57:50,790
have these stories come out like
with the news guy that's like in

1836
01:57:50,790 --> 01:57:54,240
the boat and it's in like four
inches of water. You have the

1837
01:57:54,240 --> 01:57:57,210
clips where like all the local
news stations are saying the

1838
01:57:57,210 --> 01:58:00,600
same exact thing across all the
affiliates I mean, these are

1839
01:58:00,600 --> 01:58:03,780
some of the memes that came
around about right that show

1840
01:58:03,780 --> 01:58:08,520
that the news is manufactured
now and then not you couple that

1841
01:58:08,520 --> 01:58:12,600
with what happened like say with
911 911 was a huge wake up call

1842
01:58:12,600 --> 01:58:17,370
for a lot of people because it's
like I don't you want me to

1843
01:58:17,370 --> 01:58:22,260
believe what my eyes What you
say? Not my eyes? Oh, yeah. You

1844
01:58:22,260 --> 01:58:25,170
know that was written in at

1845
01:58:25,530 --> 01:58:29,610
least pay no attention to wt c
seven.

1846
01:58:30,599 --> 01:58:34,889
That's that's what you know
what? Or what I always get them

1847
01:58:34,889 --> 01:58:40,859
when I mean not to get them in a
bad way. But question and for

1848
01:58:40,859 --> 01:58:43,529
the conspiracy theorists out
there. If you want to

1849
01:58:43,529 --> 01:58:48,359
successfully reach somebody, or
you know, ask them a question.

1850
01:58:48,809 --> 01:58:52,079
Don't inundate them with a bunch
of information because I think

1851
01:58:52,079 --> 01:58:58,529
the real problem here is one
size brain shut down. From you

1852
01:58:58,529 --> 01:59:02,849
know, just being bombarded with
too much. Too much. wokeness at

1853
01:59:02,849 --> 01:59:06,299
one time, it's like Whoa, whoa,
whoa, what is like cuz if you

1854
01:59:06,299 --> 01:59:10,289
ever met like a real conspiracy
theorist, and they hit you with

1855
01:59:10,289 --> 01:59:16,169
that od that overdose of truth.
If you can see people bring my

1856
01:59:16,169 --> 01:59:19,409
friend you bet your brain fries.
Yeah. Right. And then what that

1857
01:59:19,409 --> 01:59:22,739
does is like, No, I want to be
safe. So I'm gonna go back to

1858
01:59:22,739 --> 01:59:25,319
believe in whatever the
narrative is like, No, no, no, I

1859
01:59:25,319 --> 01:59:28,049
can't. I can't digest that. A
lot of people will tell you what

1860
01:59:28,049 --> 01:59:30,389
say that. Like, no, I can't I
can't digest that

1861
01:59:30,420 --> 01:59:33,540
choice. I just want to go back
because q1 on I think is just

1862
01:59:33,570 --> 01:59:38,520
another version of what I think
the CIA admittedly started they

1863
01:59:38,520 --> 01:59:42,600
admittedly started the whole
concept of a conspiracy theory

1864
01:59:42,990 --> 01:59:47,550
around the JFK assassination. We
have been here before Yes, we

1865
01:59:47,550 --> 01:59:53,010
have. And but but you are
absolutely right that with the

1866
01:59:53,070 --> 01:59:57,630
advance of cable news and
internet and and just the

1867
01:59:57,630 --> 02:00:01,800
proliferation of media itself.
It's I think it just became

1868
02:00:01,830 --> 02:00:05,520
easier and you know what they
tried the fact check. Well fact

1869
02:00:05,520 --> 02:00:08,520
check fact check factor and
everyone now, you know, the fact

1870
02:00:08,520 --> 02:00:11,970
checking is fallen. So by the
wayside we've seen in the past

1871
02:00:12,000 --> 02:00:15,180
two weeks, the hunter Biden
laptop, oh, yeah, that's

1872
02:00:15,180 --> 02:00:19,530
absolutely true. And the in the
past two months, we've seen the

1873
02:00:19,560 --> 02:00:23,910
Wu Han lab versus the wet
market, which has been there for

1874
02:00:23,910 --> 02:00:27,330
hundreds of years. So both of
those things, people were D

1875
02:00:27,330 --> 02:00:30,690
flat, D platformed. It was fact
check false. That couldn't be

1876
02:00:30,690 --> 02:00:35,430
true. And now it turns out it is
true that I think, and also the,

1877
02:00:35,880 --> 02:00:40,800
the excessive amount of fact
checking labels and crap that's

1878
02:00:40,800 --> 02:00:45,840
on everything has rendered that
almost useless. So they, they

1879
02:00:45,870 --> 02:00:50,130
and I'm just gonna say CIA, I
think I think it's 100% CIA will

1880
02:00:50,130 --> 02:00:53,670
bring an FBI, you know, the two
sides of the same coin don't

1881
02:00:53,700 --> 02:00:57,960
always get along, that are doing
this, that are just continuously

1882
02:00:57,960 --> 02:01:01,920
pushing a new message, and
they've tightened it and, man,

1883
02:01:01,920 --> 02:01:05,820
the, the political parties did a
great job because, you know,

1884
02:01:05,820 --> 02:01:08,850
once Trump came in, you know,
remember there's another group

1885
02:01:08,850 --> 02:01:12,270
of people, which is the same
thing is trumpers Trump

1886
02:01:12,270 --> 02:01:17,040
supporters, Trump voters magga
all of this is being rammed into

1887
02:01:17,040 --> 02:01:20,640
your head or into they're trying
to ram it in everyone's head

1888
02:01:20,700 --> 02:01:24,390
mainly through mainstream
mainstream messaging, which,

1889
02:01:24,840 --> 02:01:29,010
oddly enough doesn't really even
have such huge numbers anymore.

1890
02:01:29,760 --> 02:01:34,260
You know, MSNBC cnn in their
primetime is less than half a

1891
02:01:34,260 --> 02:01:36,300
million people are watching

1892
02:01:36,870 --> 02:01:41,910
you have several youtubers
combined. That's it that flip on

1893
02:01:41,910 --> 02:01:47,820
their live Yep, and out of the
water and pool seeing in numbers

1894
02:01:48,120 --> 02:01:51,180
and I don't even believe like I
said you turn off the gyms you

1895
02:01:51,180 --> 02:01:53,730
turn off the airports you turn I
mean like those

1896
02:01:55,290 --> 02:01:56,670
viewers left yeah then it's done

1897
02:01:57,390 --> 02:02:02,940
right? This was the end you have
on the other hand I can go and

1898
02:02:02,940 --> 02:02:06,810
pull 150 people on alive I mean
like that's a lot of people I

1899
02:02:06,810 --> 02:02:10,800
mean if you really I mean we've
got so caught up in the millions

1900
02:02:11,340 --> 02:02:15,330
if you can gather 150 200 I
think you know agenda show y'all

1901
02:02:15,330 --> 02:02:17,370
do y'all Oh gee live

1902
02:02:19,290 --> 02:02:22,380
about two and a half 1000 2002
and a half 1000

1903
02:02:22,410 --> 02:02:28,920
that's a lot of people I mean
come alive Yeah, that converge?

1904
02:02:29,340 --> 02:02:33,630
And no no big cameras no fancy
none of their spells none of the

1905
02:02:33,630 --> 02:02:37,350
magic none of the you know what
people really tune in for that

1906
02:02:37,350 --> 02:02:42,060
big TV screen right behind
people in the suits in the you

1907
02:02:42,060 --> 02:02:45,570
know the makeup and that kind of
stuff um, they're losing their

1908
02:02:45,570 --> 02:02:49,860
way but so they had to have q&a
and everything else you are not

1909
02:02:49,860 --> 02:02:50,220
sound like

1910
02:02:50,220 --> 02:02:54,450
a drug but but there is one
there is one additional thing

1911
02:02:54,720 --> 02:03:01,080
because a lot of the alternative
media alternate media is playing

1912
02:03:01,110 --> 02:03:05,880
and we do the same obviously,
we're playing mainstream so at

1913
02:03:05,880 --> 02:03:10,020
like Fox News plays a lot of
stuff that they then comment on

1914
02:03:10,050 --> 02:03:13,020
that is comes from the other
guys so they're really promoting

1915
02:03:13,020 --> 02:03:16,920
everything you're giving this
head galleon dialectic choice.

1916
02:03:18,180 --> 02:03:23,310
And really, YouTube, but also
Twitter and Instagram. That's

1917
02:03:23,310 --> 02:03:25,620
where a lot of the mainstream
stories that's where the clip

1918
02:03:25,620 --> 02:03:29,100
service goes in. And that's,
that's become very important for

1919
02:03:29,100 --> 02:03:32,970
this for this loop. They can see
and on what what's on those

1920
02:03:32,970 --> 02:03:36,330
clips, mega mega mega Trump or
Trump or Q and on cue and on

1921
02:03:36,330 --> 02:03:39,690
antivaxxers and on DVDs go on
and on and on.

1922
02:03:40,470 --> 02:03:46,020
But on the same time, they're so
ham handed, that they just give

1923
02:03:46,020 --> 02:03:54,990
you more material. It's they
they so so far out to whatever

1924
02:03:54,990 --> 02:03:57,810
their advertisers and now this
is where the advertisers come in

1925
02:03:57,810 --> 02:04:03,450
at. The real power of us is the
producers. Because all we have

1926
02:04:03,450 --> 02:04:05,940
to do is come here and sell what
we understand what we hear and

1927
02:04:05,940 --> 02:04:08,670
see. We don't have to worry
about like the Boulay phone

1928
02:04:08,670 --> 02:04:14,370
ringing and saying hey, you
can't say that right? Yeah.

1929
02:04:15,930 --> 02:04:18,810
You're going way too far once
again.

1930
02:04:20,160 --> 02:04:27,840
rely on you. Just so it sanitize
everything. And is there kind of

1931
02:04:27,840 --> 02:04:32,280
like robots like Oh, I can't say
that. I can't question man. And

1932
02:04:32,280 --> 02:04:35,340
they're slowly losing their
celebrities as well. But if you

1933
02:04:35,340 --> 02:04:35,910
don't realize,

1934
02:04:35,940 --> 02:04:39,390
oh, that spells been broken,
that spell is broken. I love it.

1935
02:04:39,390 --> 02:04:42,600
I love seeing how the
celebrities can't deny they're

1936
02:04:42,600 --> 02:04:45,810
not influencers. It's just not
they can't influence anymore.

1937
02:04:45,840 --> 02:04:48,750
They can't get people take the
shots. They can't get them to

1938
02:04:48,780 --> 02:04:52,590
look at award shows. over and
done with Hollywood is dead.

1939
02:04:53,400 --> 02:04:56,370
Is that but that's the arrogance
of it. I Oh yeah, we shut the

1940
02:04:56,370 --> 02:05:01,590
machine off for a year and in
the show Come right back. No,

1941
02:05:02,010 --> 02:05:06,090
no, like, we don't care. I don't
know. Like I said, I don't only

1942
02:05:06,090 --> 02:05:11,610
thing i watch on television is a
handful of TV shows. I mean,

1943
02:05:11,640 --> 02:05:17,490
it's like billions. Couple more.
I mean, what it really is, like,

1944
02:05:17,490 --> 02:05:23,430
based in reality is like, those
kind of shows, but it's sports,

1945
02:05:24,360 --> 02:05:27,540
and not only watch basketball
anymore, and I wouldn't I

1946
02:05:27,540 --> 02:05:31,500
wouldn't watch football. If it
wasn't connected me and my 11

1947
02:05:31,500 --> 02:05:33,660
other friends in a fantasy
league, right? It's like

1948
02:05:33,660 --> 02:05:39,930
everything. Everything has
changed. We don't care what's on

1949
02:05:39,930 --> 02:05:45,840
TV, unless it's about us. You
know? And like I said, that's a

1950
02:05:45,840 --> 02:05:49,350
real, that's a real problem to
them. Yeah. So I know people say

1951
02:05:49,350 --> 02:05:52,590
are you saying going to be a
PSA? Alright, so I have the

1952
02:05:52,590 --> 02:05:56,400
vaccine. For this binary
thinking.

1953
02:05:57,120 --> 02:06:03,180
Let me describe five levels of
listening itself. You might say

1954
02:06:03,180 --> 02:06:08,730
it's a continuum of listening.
The lowest level is to not

1955
02:06:08,730 --> 02:06:11,550
listen at all, we could almost
use the word you ignore

1956
02:06:11,550 --> 02:06:14,490
somebody, you're not even there
hardly at all. You're just into

1957
02:06:14,490 --> 02:06:19,560
your own world or whatever. The
second level, is you pretend to

1958
02:06:19,560 --> 02:06:25,260
listen. You may learn the body
language and give the you know,

1959
02:06:25,530 --> 02:06:29,220
even the mimicking responses of
the last person sentence.

1960
02:06:29,280 --> 02:06:30,390
It's called being married.

1961
02:06:31,500 --> 02:06:36,990
The third level is to listen
selectively. You are really

1962
02:06:36,990 --> 02:06:43,560
hearing. Oh, yeah, that reminds
me. Let me share. Oh, I agree

1963
02:06:43,560 --> 02:06:47,130
with that. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Well,
what you said back there, I know

1964
02:06:47,130 --> 02:06:50,310
exactly what you mean, I've had
the same kind of experience.

1965
02:06:50,520 --> 02:06:55,530
Well, I don't know about that. I
mean, you did understand. But

1966
02:06:55,530 --> 02:06:58,680
your mind is so into your own
hot buttons, that you're

1967
02:06:58,680 --> 02:07:02,130
listening always in terms of
those buttons and those

1968
02:07:02,130 --> 02:07:06,810
interests. But you did
understand. The fourth level is

1969
02:07:06,810 --> 02:07:14,550
to listen attentively. You're
really giving full attention out

1970
02:07:14,550 --> 02:07:19,290
of real sincerity, that takes a
lot of energy, really to attend

1971
02:07:19,290 --> 02:07:26,700
to another. But still, you're
into your head. The fifth is to

1972
02:07:26,700 --> 02:07:31,950
listen empathically to leave
your head to get into their head

1973
02:07:32,640 --> 02:07:33,420
and their heart.

1974
02:07:34,950 --> 02:07:36,390
Oh, that's good. Where's this
from?

1975
02:07:37,080 --> 02:07:42,300
This is Dr. Stephen R. Covey, my
main man for the Seven Habits of

1976
02:07:42,300 --> 02:07:47,970
Highly Effective People, ah, and
it's empathetic listening.

1977
02:07:48,660 --> 02:07:52,410
That's the vaccine. And that's
what we do on the show. We come

1978
02:07:52,410 --> 02:07:56,130
here not we're not just
attentive to each other. We come

1979
02:07:56,130 --> 02:07:59,070
to listen to each other. I want
to get in your head, you want to

1980
02:07:59,070 --> 02:08:01,860
get my head, like what makes?
You know, why do you think that

1981
02:08:01,860 --> 02:08:04,860
way? Why don't we just the
follow up questions. And this is

1982
02:08:04,860 --> 02:08:07,800
based off one of the seven
habits of seek first to

1983
02:08:07,800 --> 02:08:11,250
understand then to be
understood. That's the vaccine

1984
02:08:11,250 --> 02:08:13,770
to this, folks. That's it. And
it's

1985
02:08:13,770 --> 02:08:18,240
it's really hard. It's really,
really hard for a lot of people.

1986
02:08:18,240 --> 02:08:25,080
And I know, I so I see all five
of those levels, just by the

1987
02:08:25,080 --> 02:08:28,950
feedback we get from the
podcast. Yep. Yeah, it's like,

1988
02:08:28,950 --> 02:08:33,780
Wow, did did you hear it that
way? Like, you thought I said,

1989
02:08:33,780 --> 02:08:39,000
What is really interesting? But
yeah, level five is where we

1990
02:08:39,000 --> 02:08:41,940
want to be. And it's, it's
tough. It's, it's very

1991
02:08:41,940 --> 02:08:42,690
difficult.

1992
02:08:44,130 --> 02:08:47,370
But I don't think it is.

1993
02:08:47,730 --> 02:08:50,250
I think a lot of people find it
very challenging. There's so

1994
02:08:50,250 --> 02:08:53,610
many distractions just to look
at someone and listen to what

1995
02:08:53,610 --> 02:08:54,000
they're saying.

1996
02:08:54,030 --> 02:08:57,480
That's the point, right? The
distractions, man, you can just

1997
02:08:57,480 --> 02:09:01,740
sit here for three, three and a
half hours, less full Eclipse,

1998
02:09:02,070 --> 02:09:04,980
two microphones, and we listen
to each other. You're in

1999
02:09:06,030 --> 02:09:08,850
my head, you're literally on my
head loud, too.

2000
02:09:09,150 --> 02:09:14,700
Right? I'm not gonna I'm not
sitting here waiting for my turn

2001
02:09:14,700 --> 02:09:19,860
to talk. You know, it's like,
you ask follow up questions. No,

2002
02:09:19,860 --> 02:09:23,880
did you? We use analogies and
those kinds of things. But it's,

2003
02:09:24,300 --> 02:09:27,240
I'm not coming here just to
talk. I'm coming here to listen

2004
02:09:27,240 --> 02:09:30,600
to understand, you know, and
you're like, Well, I didn't see

2005
02:09:30,600 --> 02:09:34,650
it that way. Obviously, if you
say you've heard me now, if you

2006
02:09:34,650 --> 02:09:37,890
understood what I said, but I'm
just saying this is what we need

2007
02:09:37,890 --> 02:09:42,810
to do with our families. And
this is I find this to be a real

2008
02:09:42,810 --> 02:09:47,970
problem. In one sense, but this
is why the alt media kicks.

2009
02:09:49,260 --> 02:09:52,950
mainstream media's but because
when they have two people having

2010
02:09:52,950 --> 02:09:55,770
a conversation, they're doing
lines.

2011
02:09:58,380 --> 02:10:03,120
scripts, yeah, they're reading
script, even eat Even the the

2012
02:10:03,120 --> 02:10:06,240
White House press briefings the
questions are known beforehand.

2013
02:10:06,480 --> 02:10:09,540
But most of the congressional
hearings that you see questions

2014
02:10:09,540 --> 02:10:12,630
are known beforehand. It's all
scripted. It's all all of its

2015
02:10:12,630 --> 02:10:15,030
line. Whenever they say I'll
talk to you about that in closed

2016
02:10:15,030 --> 02:10:19,560
session. Yeah, you're going off
the script here. Stop it.

2017
02:10:20,010 --> 02:10:23,370
But that's why people don't find
it interesting. Because I almost

2018
02:10:23,370 --> 02:10:24,450
say my line Yes.

2019
02:10:25,230 --> 02:10:27,630
I say my lines just yet acting
Exactly.

2020
02:10:27,990 --> 02:10:34,050
Right. So this is why this this
this thing that you created, I

2021
02:10:34,050 --> 02:10:39,450
gotta give you a credit is you
actually have people sit down.

2022
02:10:39,840 --> 02:10:42,930
We have we're having a
conversation the person is

2023
02:10:42,930 --> 02:10:46,410
listening to as part of the
conversation in a passive way.

2024
02:10:46,950 --> 02:10:49,800
But they're even seeking first
to understand and then there's a

2025
02:10:49,800 --> 02:10:53,910
feedback loop. They can write us
a note ask this question. Oh,

2026
02:10:53,940 --> 02:10:57,240
you can't do that. You can't do
that with a you can't do that

2027
02:10:57,240 --> 02:11:02,610
with CNN. The loves is the
feedback loop. Yep, I have

2028
02:11:02,610 --> 02:11:06,090
things I want to talk about but
the Love is like Oh, let me

2029
02:11:06,090 --> 02:11:09,510
answer that question. Oh, well
you made a great point there oh

2030
02:11:09,510 --> 02:11:15,810
it's engagement you know this is
this is how we win because this

2031
02:11:15,810 --> 02:11:19,530
stops the binary thing it's like
hold on let me first understand

2032
02:11:19,530 --> 02:11:21,780
what you're saying. Let me make
sure I got this straight Adam I

2033
02:11:21,780 --> 02:11:21,900
have

2034
02:11:23,010 --> 02:11:27,090
also noticed you know the no
agenda audiences I think very

2035
02:11:27,090 --> 02:11:30,240
forgiving but did they do come
from all ends of the spectrum

2036
02:11:31,470 --> 02:11:35,250
but in this recent round, after
the Q anon I would say now the

2037
02:11:35,250 --> 02:11:40,950
Vax antivax just in general the
all the tension even I know

2038
02:11:40,950 --> 02:11:44,700
agenda social which is no Jenna
social calm we're federated to

2039
02:11:44,700 --> 02:11:47,760
mastodon serve like Twitter only
open source and not filled with

2040
02:11:47,790 --> 02:11:52,140
evil algos, I can tell people
are a little bit more on edge.

2041
02:11:53,880 --> 02:11:57,150
And even though they are all
talking to each other, there's

2042
02:11:57,150 --> 02:12:01,260
been a noticeable uptick for me
in the what I'm seeing and

2043
02:12:01,260 --> 02:12:05,190
stress stress levels people are
a little bit on edge. And and

2044
02:12:05,220 --> 02:12:08,100
and that and that always
diminishes the listening

2045
02:12:08,100 --> 02:12:08,910
capability.

2046
02:12:09,660 --> 02:12:15,690
Yep, that no agenda family is
not immune. The facts family is

2047
02:12:15,690 --> 02:12:18,450
not immune, because we're still
a family. That's right. And

2048
02:12:18,450 --> 02:12:24,360
that's my point is you see how
this father saved his daughter

2049
02:12:24,360 --> 02:12:29,430
from committing suicide. And
awareness was driven between

2050
02:12:29,430 --> 02:12:34,080
them off of what reality is like
home, your reality can be

2051
02:12:34,080 --> 02:12:37,680
different in my reality. I can
never know what you how you see

2052
02:12:37,680 --> 02:12:41,550
the world. I can never know. I
mean, only thing you could do is

2053
02:12:41,550 --> 02:12:44,760
try to relate to me how you
understand it, and then it takes

2054
02:12:44,760 --> 02:12:48,240
for me to say okay, I'm gonna
sit here Be quiet. Listen,

2055
02:12:48,720 --> 02:12:52,980
really listen, like really? Try
to put myself in your shoes. And

2056
02:12:52,980 --> 02:12:57,120
that's what Malcolm X is saying.
Come to the table. Right? Put

2057
02:12:57,120 --> 02:13:00,870
your put your emotions to the
side. Because that's the first

2058
02:13:00,870 --> 02:13:03,300
thing I don't like that. Oh, no.
Oh, he said then that's what the

2059
02:13:03,300 --> 02:13:05,820
family know. Oh, he said
conspiracy theory. Oh, he said

2060
02:13:05,820 --> 02:13:09,120
queueing on Ah, oh, he said this
and this both sides? Yeah.

2061
02:13:09,150 --> 02:13:11,670
Because q&a. I'll be honest with
you, I might offend some of the

2062
02:13:11,670 --> 02:13:15,780
q&a people out there. He's not
about a secret society. It's

2063
02:13:15,780 --> 02:13:19,740
like, Oh, we know something you
don't know. Haha, here's an all

2064
02:13:19,740 --> 02:13:22,470
we know what that means. You
know, Oh, look at that hand

2065
02:13:22,470 --> 02:13:24,840
gesture all you don't know, it
was that kind of thing.

2066
02:13:24,990 --> 02:13:28,650
It was really well done the game
theory. And q anon was well

2067
02:13:28,650 --> 02:13:33,000
constructed. You know, with the
proofs, and the and the rabbit

2068
02:13:33,000 --> 02:13:38,190
hole and the all this stuff that
all these little terms, very

2069
02:13:38,190 --> 02:13:42,540
well constructed. And honestly,
a lot of it was damn good mo I

2070
02:13:42,540 --> 02:13:45,000
looked at stuff and we're like,
that's got to be true.

2071
02:13:46,410 --> 02:13:51,690
But it was very entertaining.
Which 90% of people that got

2072
02:13:51,690 --> 02:13:54,780
into it, it was entertainment.
Yeah. Cuz it's like, Dungeons

2073
02:13:54,780 --> 02:13:58,710
and Dragons are something that
like, you know, like, oh, I'll

2074
02:13:58,710 --> 02:14:01,140
pick up my phone and get engaged
for a little while, you know, to

2075
02:14:01,140 --> 02:14:05,280
see if I can like a scavenger
hunt. Like, that symbol, that

2076
02:14:05,280 --> 02:14:09,390
kind of thing. I didn't really
get into it like that, because

2077
02:14:09,810 --> 02:14:13,380
it was so readily available. I
might hold on who's pushing this

2078
02:14:13,380 --> 02:14:16,710
thing like really like, I mean,
that was just me. I'm always

2079
02:14:16,710 --> 02:14:20,550
skeptical. But you ready for
your second jab at a vaccine,

2080
02:14:20,550 --> 02:14:20,760
I'm

2081
02:14:20,760 --> 02:14:21,930
ready, Bring it on, doctor.

2082
02:14:22,410 --> 02:14:27,810
Let's go is to listen
empathically to leave your head

2083
02:14:28,470 --> 02:14:33,420
to get into their head and their
heart. Not that you are trying

2084
02:14:33,420 --> 02:14:38,010
to sympathize or agree or
disagree you take no position at

2085
02:14:38,010 --> 02:14:42,630
all. Remember how we have used
the iceberg as a kind of

2086
02:14:43,350 --> 02:14:48,960
metaphor? Well, it really
pertains to the subject of

2087
02:14:48,960 --> 02:14:53,340
empathy, and communication. We
talked about the tip being just

2088
02:14:53,340 --> 02:14:58,950
the technique. You know what the
great mass of the iceberg is the

2089
02:14:58,950 --> 02:14:59,550
motive

2090
02:15:02,399 --> 02:15:08,429
The deeper attitude? Are you
really anxious to understand?

2091
02:15:09,719 --> 02:15:17,189
Now, the magic really comes from
the human affirmation process.

2092
02:15:18,719 --> 02:15:21,659
If we were to suck the air out
of this room right now, what

2093
02:15:21,659 --> 02:15:23,189
would happen to our interests

2094
02:15:24,900 --> 02:15:32,010
that align? Now we have air,
does air motivate us? What is it

2095
02:15:32,010 --> 02:15:37,200
that motivates us? The absence
of air, the psychological

2096
02:15:37,230 --> 02:15:43,740
equivalent of air is to feel
understood. It is the deepest

2097
02:15:43,740 --> 02:15:50,100
hunger of the human heart. But
to give someone psychological

2098
02:15:50,100 --> 02:15:54,480
air, it's makes it almost
impossible for someone to fight

2099
02:15:54,480 --> 02:15:54,690
you

2100
02:15:56,040 --> 02:15:56,880
know, that's great.

2101
02:15:58,800 --> 02:16:02,550
And if, if understanding is air,
what is being dismissive?

2102
02:16:03,210 --> 02:16:09,090
choking? Right? You in mass, we
gave the analogy of the air and

2103
02:16:09,090 --> 02:16:11,730
now air is not being sucked out
of the room, but our freedoms

2104
02:16:11,730 --> 02:16:17,040
are slow, we're slowly gonna,
when that when that boot comes

2105
02:16:17,040 --> 02:16:20,700
down, and you start your
freedoms, like, Oh, you can't

2106
02:16:20,700 --> 02:16:23,760
say that. You can't do that. You
can't go there. You can't. Oh,

2107
02:16:23,760 --> 02:16:29,790
it'll quickly align. But I want
to say that because I've heard

2108
02:16:29,790 --> 02:16:34,170
some things being said, people
not being able to see their

2109
02:16:34,170 --> 02:16:38,520
grandkids. family, or I'm
talking about like, in my inner

2110
02:16:38,520 --> 02:16:41,310
circle, and you know, in the
facts, family, you know, no, no

2111
02:16:41,310 --> 02:16:46,050
gender family as well, is, you
don't let your kids talk. Okay,

2112
02:16:46,050 --> 02:16:49,470
I understand one thing, if you
don't let that visit, if you're

2113
02:16:49,500 --> 02:16:53,550
hardcore Vax, to antibiotic,
whatever side you're on, but not

2114
02:16:53,550 --> 02:16:56,490
even to talk to the
grandparents. But where are we?

2115
02:16:56,490 --> 02:17:00,000
Where are we headed? Seriously?
Where are we really had it and I

2116
02:17:00,000 --> 02:17:06,630
didn't, I wanted to do this show
to really address that, to show

2117
02:17:06,630 --> 02:17:12,720
how we're being sucked in to,
you know, binary thinking,

2118
02:17:13,109 --> 02:17:17,249
right? But logic will not get us
out of this Mo, if I've learned

2119
02:17:17,249 --> 02:17:21,119
a lot of things from you. The
first one is you got to break a

2120
02:17:21,119 --> 02:17:24,449
spell, you can't be can't give a
spell logic, that's not going to

2121
02:17:24,449 --> 02:17:27,959
work, you've got to break it.
And that and and however that

2122
02:17:27,959 --> 02:17:30,779
works. It also has to be done
amongst family members somehow.

2123
02:17:32,219 --> 02:17:35,429
seek first to understand then to
be understood, and but that goes

2124
02:17:35,429 --> 02:17:38,759
counter narrative counter to
human survival. And that's the

2125
02:17:38,759 --> 02:17:42,869
reptilian brain, right? Yeah.
Yeah, you're right, the real

2126
02:17:42,869 --> 02:17:46,229
reptile right is, I need to be
heard First, I need to be

2127
02:17:46,229 --> 02:17:48,629
understood. First, I need to be
you know, that, that kind of

2128
02:17:48,629 --> 02:17:51,599
thing. And me, me me first,
because that's the human

2129
02:17:51,779 --> 02:17:55,619
condition is to put yourself
first, but when you really,

2130
02:17:56,429 --> 02:18:01,979
really say, okay, make me
understand. You know, that kind

2131
02:18:01,979 --> 02:18:05,519
of thing. So I wanted to bring
that into the show, because what

2132
02:18:05,519 --> 02:18:09,959
we're about to talk about next,
is gonna take understanding, and

2133
02:18:09,959 --> 02:18:13,349
it's part of the Q nine, it's
part of the misinformation and

2134
02:18:13,649 --> 02:18:18,269
it's a lot of stuff going on
behind it. And that is talking

2135
02:18:18,269 --> 02:18:25,409
about where we're at. 26 Yeah,
26 This is the result of

2136
02:18:25,469 --> 02:18:26,999
neighbors reporting neighbors.

2137
02:18:27,479 --> 02:18:31,559
I'm thinking, this is an event
you know, this is a crowd event

2138
02:18:31,559 --> 02:18:35,099
and, and, and it was a real,
very surreal feeling, because

2139
02:18:35,099 --> 02:18:37,709
there was also a platform, which
later there was saying was going

2140
02:18:37,709 --> 02:18:40,709
to be the inauguration platform.
There were a bunch of people out

2141
02:18:40,709 --> 02:18:43,169
there and we thought I thought
that there was going to be a

2142
02:18:43,169 --> 02:18:46,469
speaker, somebody was going to
say something. And all of a

2143
02:18:46,469 --> 02:18:51,239
sudden they unfurled this huge
had to be 70 foot American flag.

2144
02:18:51,599 --> 02:18:55,649
I get goosebumps thinking about
it, and everybody went wild.

2145
02:18:56,070 --> 02:19:02,010
And you will have a an not only
an FBI raid of your apartment,

2146
02:19:02,190 --> 02:19:06,150
but an FBI raid of your mother's
apartment. Let's fast forward a

2147
02:19:06,150 --> 02:19:10,020
little bit and talk about that.
What What happened there? Well,

2148
02:19:10,080 --> 02:19:13,350
I was saying my mother's because
my mother is still in rehab.

2149
02:19:13,380 --> 02:19:17,280
She's in a rehab home facility.
So I was spending time there

2150
02:19:17,280 --> 02:19:19,830
trying to clean up for her
because I went to make it we'll

2151
02:19:20,070 --> 02:19:23,670
wheelchair access. They had
visited me at her house on

2152
02:19:23,670 --> 02:19:28,800
February 4 Thursday for agents.
They asked me if I was an Tifa

2153
02:19:28,860 --> 02:19:31,920
blah, blah, blah. I said no, I
gave him a copy of the videos I

2154
02:19:31,920 --> 02:19:36,090
had shot. So I said okay, fine.
Everything is fine. A week later

2155
02:19:36,090 --> 02:19:38,550
at 6am in the morning, I'm
sleeping on the couch at my

2156
02:19:38,550 --> 02:19:43,170
mother's place and is banging
open a door Open the door FBI

2157
02:19:43,170 --> 02:19:48,480
FBI. So I get up I'm half asleep
I open the door and they're like

2158
02:19:48,480 --> 02:19:52,410
these eight to 10 tactically
dress, I guess soldiers with

2159
02:19:52,410 --> 02:19:56,970
jttf on one of them was pointing
an automatic rifle at me. An

2160
02:19:56,970 --> 02:20:00,600
automatic Yeah, automatic like
an assault weapon. About five

2161
02:20:00,600 --> 02:20:04,230
feet away he was I guess that's
the procedure for them. But you

2162
02:20:04,230 --> 02:20:07,890
know you don't wake up. You open
a door you have soldiers at your

2163
02:20:07,890 --> 02:20:09,660
door with a thing aimed at you.

2164
02:20:12,240 --> 02:20:17,670
Yeah, yeah. So we got this I set
that up poorly. I'm sorry about

2165
02:20:17,670 --> 02:20:22,230
that. I lost my place. But this
is Joseph Bolanos, and he's a

2166
02:20:22,230 --> 02:20:27,630
political independent. Those
democratically vote for the

2167
02:20:27,630 --> 02:20:32,250
Democrats. He went down to the
rally didn't go inside the

2168
02:20:32,250 --> 02:20:36,810
Capitol didn't go inside. And
you heard the results of what

2169
02:20:36,810 --> 02:20:40,110
happened. Not only did they
write his place they re he

2170
02:20:40,140 --> 02:20:43,230
raided his mother's house who
suffers from dementia

2171
02:20:43,470 --> 02:20:46,500
Did he say that ATF or a TTF

2172
02:20:47,640 --> 02:20:49,920
you might want to listen to that
again. I was

2173
02:20:49,920 --> 02:20:52,890
saying my mother's because my
mother is still in requests I

2174
02:20:52,890 --> 02:20:56,910
want to make it we'll Thursday
for agents they asked me if I

2175
02:20:56,910 --> 02:21:01,080
was an Tifa and blah blah blah.
I said no, I gave a cop couch at

2176
02:21:01,080 --> 02:21:04,830
my mother's place. And there's
banging open a door Open the

2177
02:21:04,830 --> 02:21:10,650
door FBI FBI. So I get up I'm
half asleep I open the door and

2178
02:21:10,650 --> 02:21:14,250
they're like these eight to 10
tactically dress I guess

2179
02:21:14,250 --> 02:21:16,110
soldiers with jttf on

2180
02:21:16,140 --> 02:21:19,620
yeah a TTF so that's not alcohol
tobacco and firearms. That's an

2181
02:21:20,190 --> 02:21:26,970
anti terrorists Hold on. I've
heard of these jokes before anti

2182
02:21:26,970 --> 02:21:35,700
Terrorism Task Force whoo there
you go tear anti Terrorism Task

2183
02:21:35,700 --> 02:21:37,560
Force get your mom out of bed

2184
02:21:38,160 --> 02:21:41,190
eight to eight to 10 people
showing up um but what I'm

2185
02:21:41,190 --> 02:21:43,890
saying and they asked him where
are you anti that's that's a

2186
02:21:43,890 --> 02:21:47,370
weird question i and Tifa Yeah,
interesting. Right right. What

2187
02:21:47,370 --> 02:21:50,850
is that what was that question
but let's just get into them

2188
02:21:50,850 --> 02:21:54,540
when he's talking to dinesh
d'souza which he had his own

2189
02:21:54,600 --> 02:21:59,610
issues with the railroad it did
by the government. Was that that

2190
02:21:59,610 --> 02:22:00,480
was one of the most

2191
02:22:00,480 --> 02:22:04,290
he went to he went to jail.
Yeah. Put him in jail bundling

2192
02:22:04,320 --> 02:22:07,980
of all things. I mean that but
that's if you say that are your

2193
02:22:07,980 --> 02:22:13,290
kuna. easily see how easily I
can go like he went to jail for

2194
02:22:13,290 --> 02:22:16,350
things are normally done in
politics. No, no, no, that's

2195
02:22:16,350 --> 02:22:21,270
q&a. That sounds like you're on
me. But let's get back to Joseph

2196
02:22:21,540 --> 02:22:25,680
Bolanos and what happened to
decelerate?

2197
02:22:25,980 --> 02:22:29,790
And is it a fact that the the
reason that they did that was

2198
02:22:29,790 --> 02:22:33,270
that somebody kind of, quote
ratted you out? In other words,

2199
02:22:34,020 --> 02:22:38,280
it said that, oh, yeah, this is
the guy who was at the Capitol.

2200
02:22:38,430 --> 02:22:42,270
And the FBI evidently went to a
district judge Gabriel

2201
02:22:42,270 --> 02:22:46,890
gorenstein, who gave them a
warrant to make the search. And

2202
02:22:46,890 --> 02:22:50,010
I want to emphasize, you never
went in the Capitol. But

2203
02:22:50,010 --> 02:22:53,550
nevertheless, based on some
information the FBI got they

2204
02:22:53,550 --> 02:22:57,660
were able to convince a judge
that there was probable cause to

2205
02:22:57,660 --> 02:23:03,060
make this armed raid. Got one to
show how on so little, I mean,

2206
02:23:03,060 --> 02:23:05,130
clearly, they didn't have
evidence you got in the Capitol

2207
02:23:05,130 --> 02:23:08,820
because you never did. But
nevertheless, they come storming

2208
02:23:08,820 --> 02:23:12,540
down your door and pick up the
story from there because like

2209
02:23:12,540 --> 02:23:15,960
you said, you went down to the
station. And then what happened?

2210
02:23:16,560 --> 02:23:20,370
The big mystery is exactly what
you just stated is that how can

2211
02:23:20,370 --> 02:23:24,840
the FBI do so much? I mean,
double teams, raids, search

2212
02:23:24,840 --> 02:23:28,140
warrants, what have you on the
word of one person on a tip

2213
02:23:28,140 --> 02:23:31,800
line, and in the last year,
we've had during COVID three or

2214
02:23:31,800 --> 02:23:35,250
four people who have radicalized
someone, they become political,

2215
02:23:35,520 --> 02:23:39,000
and again, as a black president
for 23 years I've always been

2216
02:23:39,030 --> 02:23:42,510
apolitical because I like to
stress the commonality of our

2217
02:23:42,510 --> 02:23:45,660
neighbors nothing political
because the vitriol starts

2218
02:23:45,660 --> 02:23:49,290
flowing. In this case this
individual was was actually

2219
02:23:49,290 --> 02:23:52,770
interviewed by a local TV
station and he claimed that he

2220
02:23:52,770 --> 02:23:56,490
walked by the the cafe where I
was sitting at and then I was

2221
02:23:56,490 --> 02:24:00,240
bragging about being in
Washington and I had footage or

2222
02:24:00,240 --> 02:24:02,220
video of the Capital

2223
02:24:02,820 --> 02:24:03,960
One anonymous

2224
02:24:03,960 --> 02:24:08,430
phone call tip that's all it
that's all pay attention that's

2225
02:24:08,430 --> 02:24:12,510
great. And then he didn't even
have a conversation when he

2226
02:24:12,510 --> 02:24:16,530
walked past him you're saying
bragging and boasting which I'm

2227
02:24:16,530 --> 02:24:19,200
sure he was, Hey, I went down to
the car I was there you know

2228
02:24:19,200 --> 02:24:21,780
that kind of you know, out like
I said, I'm just gonna be middle

2229
02:24:21,780 --> 02:24:25,800
row with it that say, even if he
was to say, you know, look, look

2230
02:24:25,800 --> 02:24:27,630
at my pictures I was there, you
know, that kind of thing. You

2231
02:24:27,630 --> 02:24:32,520
know, bragging. That shouldn't
get your house raining? No.

2232
02:24:33,000 --> 02:24:37,260
Where are we at? Like,
seriously, folks? Folks pay

2233
02:24:37,260 --> 02:24:39,240
attention, one call.

2234
02:24:40,320 --> 02:24:42,840
Yeah, but this is tyrannical
government mode. This is not

2235
02:24:42,840 --> 02:24:45,690
just a family issue, one
anonymous phone call.

2236
02:24:46,500 --> 02:24:51,540
What I'm saying is what when
they start your family starts

2237
02:24:51,540 --> 02:24:53,700
making that call like this weird

2238
02:24:55,140 --> 02:24:57,180
stuff that already happened,
that's happening.

2239
02:24:57,599 --> 02:25:02,159
Notice that that's where we're
headed, but that's Gary, but you

2240
02:25:02,159 --> 02:25:07,259
know what, that's nothing new.
Because if you're familiar with

2241
02:25:07,259 --> 02:25:10,829
the drug laws and drug
conspiracy laws, this is nothing

2242
02:25:10,829 --> 02:25:11,189
new.

2243
02:25:14,070 --> 02:25:16,620
Five and a half years, I was the
United States Attorney for the

2244
02:25:16,620 --> 02:25:20,160
Western District of Virginia.
Mandy, from my understanding,

2245
02:25:20,190 --> 02:25:24,270
was only involved for a couple
of months with this conspiracy,

2246
02:25:24,330 --> 02:25:27,990
and it was her boyfriend who was
the more substantial member of

2247
02:25:27,990 --> 02:25:31,770
that conspiracy. But the way the
law works is if you're in a

2248
02:25:31,770 --> 02:25:34,950
conspiracy, you are legally
responsible, not just for what

2249
02:25:34,980 --> 02:25:38,700
you do yourself, but for what
the conspiracy does, as long as

2250
02:25:38,700 --> 02:25:42,510
it's foreseeable to you. So if
you are the girlfriend of a drug

2251
02:25:42,510 --> 02:25:46,230
dealer, like Mandy Martinson,
and you have reason to know that

2252
02:25:46,230 --> 02:25:49,260
he is receiving large quantities
from a supplier and then

2253
02:25:49,260 --> 02:25:52,530
redistributing those quantities
to various mid level

2254
02:25:52,530 --> 02:25:56,100
distributors, even if you never
touch those drugs, even if you

2255
02:25:56,100 --> 02:25:58,860
never benefit from them in any
way, if you're in the

2256
02:25:58,860 --> 02:26:02,400
conspiracy, and you're aware of
the quantity, then you're

2257
02:26:02,400 --> 02:26:04,980
legally responsible for that
quantity. It's like any other

2258
02:26:04,980 --> 02:26:08,610
business, the person who stands
at the counter of the store and

2259
02:26:08,610 --> 02:26:10,950
collects money from a customer
and puts it into the cash

2260
02:26:10,950 --> 02:26:15,780
register. She's a viable part of
the entire business. And is is

2261
02:26:15,780 --> 02:26:19,020
part of the reason why the
business makes lots of money,

2262
02:26:19,020 --> 02:26:21,480
even if she's not there. Every
shift isn't there for every

2263
02:26:21,480 --> 02:26:24,390
single transaction. It's the
same thing in a drug conspiracy.

2264
02:26:24,900 --> 02:26:27,360
And that's a very powerful
weapon for prosecutor because a

2265
02:26:27,360 --> 02:26:30,390
prosecutor can say to Amanda
Martinson, look, you're

2266
02:26:30,390 --> 02:26:33,060
responsible for everything that
your boyfriend did everything

2267
02:26:33,060 --> 02:26:35,760
that the people he was dealing
with did, because you were

2268
02:26:35,760 --> 02:26:39,060
present when it happened, it was
foreseeable to you, even if she

2269
02:26:39,090 --> 02:26:41,610
never touched any of that it's
hard for people to get their

2270
02:26:41,610 --> 02:26:46,830
mind around. But it conspiracy
allows under the law to charge

2271
02:26:46,830 --> 02:26:49,320
people with really substantial
quantities beyond what they

2272
02:26:49,320 --> 02:26:49,680
perceive.

2273
02:26:52,560 --> 02:26:55,440
Well, that's kind of good.
That's kind of good news. That's

2274
02:26:55,440 --> 02:27:02,790
kind of good guys. Well, because
once you once we get one, then

2275
02:27:02,790 --> 02:27:07,320
we'll Oh, it's like you You knew
that. Your your fellow

2276
02:27:07,350 --> 02:27:10,590
politician was doing this and
you worried on that. And I mean,

2277
02:27:10,620 --> 02:27:14,190
no, no, no, no, no, they were
like that. Yeah, well, yeah. In

2278
02:27:14,190 --> 02:27:16,950
the tribunals. Yes, it will. It
will sound

2279
02:27:16,950 --> 02:27:17,790
that cue. Hope you

2280
02:27:23,730 --> 02:27:29,010
nailed it there. Another thing I
got to write down. I love that.

2281
02:27:29,160 --> 02:27:32,490
Hey, listen. Oh, we've already
got one sealed indictment down

2282
02:27:32,490 --> 02:27:35,340
999 to go mo I'm counting them.

2283
02:27:35,760 --> 02:27:39,360
No reason why I say that is if
that was the case, then

2284
02:27:40,950 --> 02:27:43,680
politicians would have been
locked up because we can say

2285
02:27:43,680 --> 02:27:46,830
hey, you knew about that, that
kind of thing. But it doesn't

2286
02:27:46,830 --> 02:27:50,400
work like that. No, but clearly
the reason why I point this out

2287
02:27:50,400 --> 02:27:56,550
is this is how the war on drugs
worked. Catch two fish. Because

2288
02:27:56,550 --> 02:27:58,920
then a drug and drug appears
conspiracy. I think you had to

2289
02:27:58,920 --> 02:28:02,730
have two people say they bought
drugs from you. So you catch two

2290
02:28:02,730 --> 02:28:07,290
small fish to Hey, did you buy
drugs from Tony? Yeah. Did you

2291
02:28:07,290 --> 02:28:11,610
buy drugs from Tony? Yeah, go
get Tony done. Right. Done. It

2292
02:28:11,610 --> 02:28:14,610
doesn't matter. If you apply
that to what Joseph went

2293
02:28:14,610 --> 02:28:17,310
through. Oh, you should have
known that we're going to storm

2294
02:28:17,310 --> 02:28:21,330
the capital. Once you're doing
out there on the blog. Hmm. It

2295
02:28:21,330 --> 02:28:25,590
was saying you deserve to be
roust in the real sick part

2296
02:28:25,590 --> 02:28:30,810
about it is and this is a little
sad. But what percentage of

2297
02:28:30,810 --> 02:28:33,690
trials the mean what percentage
of cases do you think go to

2298
02:28:33,690 --> 02:28:34,110
trial?

2299
02:28:35,130 --> 02:28:36,300
Of what kind?

2300
02:28:37,350 --> 02:28:38,700
Oh, well, criminal criminal?

2301
02:28:39,300 --> 02:28:42,030
I don't know. It depends on the
state. But I don't know. Let's

2302
02:28:42,060 --> 02:28:45,930
just take a while again, just
take it what percentage of cases

2303
02:28:45,960 --> 02:28:51,420
actually go to trial? Winning
some Jeopardy music. criminal

2304
02:28:51,420 --> 02:28:53,880
cases, criminal cases how many
you think

2305
02:28:55,980 --> 02:28:59,880
you'd be hoping that it was
quite a high number? You'd be

2306
02:28:59,880 --> 02:29:05,520
hoping in the at least the high
70s 3% and what happens to the

2307
02:29:05,520 --> 02:29:10,410
rest? plead out? Yeah, okay,
that makes sense. Yeah.

2308
02:29:10,529 --> 02:29:14,099
So what I'm saying is this is
how the drug conspiracy game

2309
02:29:14,099 --> 02:29:18,119
work. To people say you're
selling drugs. You're done. Hey,

2310
02:29:18,119 --> 02:29:19,619
Tony, you're facing 20

2311
02:29:20,730 --> 02:29:24,990
right? Yeah, yeah. And you saw
Yeah, you saw that in the wire

2312
02:29:24,990 --> 02:29:25,680
all the time.

2313
02:29:26,100 --> 02:29:29,460
Right. So the point I'm making
is you're gonna have a lot of

2314
02:29:29,460 --> 02:29:33,060
people that didn't do anything
comp and please because like I

2315
02:29:33,060 --> 02:29:36,480
don't want to face I don't want
to gamble my life on 20 years on

2316
02:29:36,480 --> 02:29:40,050
a conspiracy. I mean, how do you
disprove a conspiracy I mean

2317
02:29:40,050 --> 02:29:43,380
like that's that's like the
hardest thing to be

2318
02:29:43,410 --> 02:29:47,910
okay. So what you're saying is
the the January six people who

2319
02:29:47,910 --> 02:29:51,240
have who are still many still in
jail. That's really the

2320
02:29:51,240 --> 02:29:54,810
conundrum for them is because if
if there's two people who say,

2321
02:29:54,810 --> 02:29:57,930
Oh, yeah, I saw that guy. I saw
him over there. You're in the

2322
02:29:57,930 --> 02:30:00,480
conspiracy because it's been
claimed to conceal Seeing at

2323
02:30:00,480 --> 02:30:04,800
that point, it's easier to just
plead out, which, which of

2324
02:30:04,800 --> 02:30:07,440
course, these white guys learn
from, from their black brothers

2325
02:30:08,790 --> 02:30:10,320
for similar reasons.

2326
02:30:11,190 --> 02:30:14,400
And if you consider yourself a
political prisoner, you can't

2327
02:30:14,400 --> 02:30:16,740
plead out. Because you're there
for the cause.

2328
02:30:18,449 --> 02:30:19,049
Right

2329
02:30:19,050 --> 02:30:24,090
to see how that works is I can
say, this this system has been

2330
02:30:24,090 --> 02:30:28,200
set up the apparatus is there is
just you targeted towards

2331
02:30:28,200 --> 02:30:30,960
whatever group you want to
target it towards. That's the

2332
02:30:30,960 --> 02:30:35,940
same thing with the guys we were
talking about. With the staying

2333
02:30:36,240 --> 02:30:40,110
in the early part of the show,
yeah. Experience. Oh, yeah, they

2334
02:30:40,110 --> 02:30:42,690
wouldn't do it. Yeah, well, we
got proof here that they were

2335
02:30:42,690 --> 02:30:46,620
gonna do it. So. But I'm just
saying, so that's this thing has

2336
02:30:46,620 --> 02:30:50,280
been around a conspiracy. But
now they're gonna start

2337
02:30:50,280 --> 02:30:54,660
weaponizing. That's very scary.
So anybody could come and say,

2338
02:30:54,660 --> 02:30:57,690
Oh, yeah, I'm never going to
take part in this. You got two

2339
02:30:57,690 --> 02:31:01,800
people who say it, and you put
me in jail, I have to play it

2340
02:31:01,800 --> 02:31:04,710
out. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna
fight anybody. You want to go

2341
02:31:04,710 --> 02:31:07,860
home today and be on probation
or you want to fight between

2342
02:31:09,570 --> 02:31:13,110
disbarred? I mean, even you had
a lot of people take cases that

2343
02:31:13,110 --> 02:31:16,800
don't even have anything to do
with, because the odds is just,

2344
02:31:17,520 --> 02:31:19,590
I don't want I don't want to
take those odds. Right,

2345
02:31:19,650 --> 02:31:20,070
right.

2346
02:31:21,390 --> 02:31:23,850
It's a very nasty system. I

2347
02:31:23,850 --> 02:31:26,910
wasn't I wasn't aware of that. I
wasn't aware of the 3% number.

2348
02:31:26,910 --> 02:31:29,790
And, and when you said plead
out, yeah. Okay. Makes sense.

2349
02:31:30,090 --> 02:31:32,580
That's a nasty system.

2350
02:31:32,850 --> 02:31:36,060
How do you beat that? I mean,
like, how do you, you know, so

2351
02:31:36,060 --> 02:31:40,620
I'm just, I started with us,
they don't end with us always

2352
02:31:40,620 --> 02:31:43,290
say that they started with us.
But it doesn't end with this.

2353
02:31:43,590 --> 02:31:46,950
But let's go back to Joseph and
his final clip,

2354
02:31:47,460 --> 02:31:50,730
I want to talk about the element
of media humiliation, because as

2355
02:31:50,730 --> 02:31:53,280
I understand it, when you are
handcuffed and taken out of the

2356
02:31:53,280 --> 02:31:57,660
car, there was an NBC NBC camera
crew that had been tipped off

2357
02:31:57,690 --> 02:32:01,560
about the raid, and they were
there to sort of film you. And

2358
02:32:01,560 --> 02:32:04,560
so what I'm talking about is
it's not just a matter because I

2359
02:32:04,560 --> 02:32:08,520
mean, I've I know what this
degradation feels like. But it's

2360
02:32:08,520 --> 02:32:11,940
always magnified when you've got
flashing lights and people

2361
02:32:11,940 --> 02:32:15,420
shouting questions at you. Is it
not a fact that you have

2362
02:32:15,420 --> 02:32:19,200
actually had two strokes
subsequent to what happened to

2363
02:32:19,200 --> 02:32:22,500
you? And would it be reasonable
to assume that that at the very

2364
02:32:22,500 --> 02:32:24,870
least these events contributed
to those

2365
02:32:25,890 --> 02:32:29,310
without a doubt these events did
contribute the first stroke was

2366
02:32:29,310 --> 02:32:32,490
considered mild they said,
although in the ambulance

2367
02:32:32,490 --> 02:32:35,040
directed show, I pulled the
ambulance, right because my

2368
02:32:35,040 --> 02:32:39,840
blood pressure was 220 over 143
which is hypertensive crisis,

2369
02:32:39,870 --> 02:32:44,970
which is close to serious,
serious stroke. And then I had

2370
02:32:44,970 --> 02:32:48,690
another stroke about 100 days
after the first mild one, which

2371
02:32:48,690 --> 02:32:51,660
makes best begs the question if
it's so mild, do I have another

2372
02:32:51,660 --> 02:32:56,160
one under days later? So in the
second one was a lot more a lot

2373
02:32:56,160 --> 02:32:59,820
more severe. Now regarding NBC
there's an interesting fact here

2374
02:32:59,820 --> 02:33:02,880
because often you hear the FBI
when someone comments or

2375
02:33:03,090 --> 02:33:05,400
questions I'm about an
investigation to go we can

2376
02:33:05,400 --> 02:33:08,550
comment because it's an ongoing
investigation. Now the guy who

2377
02:33:08,550 --> 02:33:13,440
did the NBC story is a guy named
Jonathan Dean's his partner okay

2378
02:33:13,440 --> 02:33:19,080
at NBC is the former spokesman
for the FBI so how does this guy

2379
02:33:19,080 --> 02:33:21,810
coincidently have a camera man
show up Don't worry flashing

2380
02:33:21,810 --> 02:33:24,090
lights right and it was just one
camera man, but that kind of

2381
02:33:24,090 --> 02:33:28,620
tripped me off. So you have NBC
with that former FBI spokesman

2382
02:33:28,620 --> 02:33:31,920
with the FBI doing a raid I
mean, common sense says that

2383
02:33:31,920 --> 02:33:34,770
there's a linkage there somehow
because it's not a coincidence

2384
02:33:34,980 --> 02:33:36,930
that there's gambling going on
there.

2385
02:33:40,170 --> 02:33:43,530
For fear satellite, que nada
with a mockingbird, but like I

2386
02:33:43,530 --> 02:33:49,650
said, I don't want to end up on
anybody's list. But FBI to NBC

2387
02:33:50,970 --> 02:33:52,380
that's just down the hall

2388
02:34:00,090 --> 02:34:02,850
you're saying like Zuckerberg
and Mueller these people are in

2389
02:34:02,850 --> 02:34:07,410
bed together? Yeah. It's this
it's the same thing but that's a

2390
02:34:07,410 --> 02:34:08,730
mate two strokes.

2391
02:34:08,910 --> 02:34:12,210
And that and you know, the way
that works with Zuckerberg is a

2392
02:34:12,210 --> 02:34:15,360
good example. Government
pressures that you know, it's

2393
02:34:15,360 --> 02:34:18,180
like what what have you What did
you hear you don't hear much

2394
02:34:18,180 --> 02:34:21,510
about anymore? Yeah, we're
thinking about perhaps

2395
02:34:21,540 --> 02:34:25,590
regulating you section 230 come
back and talk a little bit you

2396
02:34:25,590 --> 02:34:28,440
have a gas you from your more
questions. So you know, it's

2397
02:34:28,440 --> 02:34:33,090
like they're also pressured
through the entire system. They

2398
02:34:33,090 --> 02:34:36,660
have to do what whatever they do
in order to survive because

2399
02:34:36,660 --> 02:34:39,270
they're there. They are, in fact
too big to fail.

2400
02:34:40,050 --> 02:34:42,780
Well, mamas cover your baby's
ears. How much

2401
02:34:43,530 --> 02:34:46,980
do we need to drink or bird? I
was wanting to do we need to

2402
02:34:46,980 --> 02:34:48,330
trigger a trigger warning.

2403
02:34:48,360 --> 02:34:53,040
No, not sugar. Cookie
monster.com content. Okay,

2404
02:34:53,070 --> 02:34:56,160
Zuckerberg is the government's
bitch. Let's just be honest

2405
02:34:56,160 --> 02:35:00,780
here. All the big techies, we
know who created These these

2406
02:35:00,780 --> 02:35:04,410
companies. I mean, come come.
That's the narrative like he's

2407
02:35:04,410 --> 02:35:07,470
in his computer, his dorm room,
he's writing up Facebook code,

2408
02:35:07,590 --> 02:35:11,490
but knock it off. He was saying
they had they, they they pin him

2409
02:35:11,880 --> 02:35:15,720
to say, Okay, he's the face of
the organization, right. Unless

2410
02:35:16,260 --> 02:35:19,050
they like you said they have
mobile Barrow, give us the

2411
02:35:19,050 --> 02:35:23,340
information. Oh, we will we'll
what's the what's the tax

2412
02:35:23,340 --> 02:35:26,670
benefit? They're they're allowed
to have or whether or not

2413
02:35:26,670 --> 02:35:27,720
treated as a utility.

2414
02:35:28,170 --> 02:35:32,580
I forget what it's called a
section 230 or title, section

2415
02:35:32,580 --> 02:35:37,740
230. Yeah. Well, there's that.
Yeah. And also the anti trust

2416
02:35:37,740 --> 02:35:43,290
and, but But make no mistake.
It's, the government is in this

2417
02:35:43,290 --> 02:35:46,830
too. If you look at the, if you
look at the history of Google

2418
02:35:47,220 --> 02:35:49,350
shots, that's what they're
calling the shots.

2419
02:35:50,400 --> 02:35:57,300
Right? Right. Yeah, but but it's
not really the but it's not the

2420
02:35:57,300 --> 02:36:01,650
politicians. The politicians
have their own leverage, but you

2421
02:36:01,650 --> 02:36:04,740
have to look at which politician
has real power. And that always

2422
02:36:04,740 --> 02:36:08,250
comes from either CIA,
preferably or FBI.

2423
02:36:08,640 --> 02:36:13,470
Careful, Carrie curry koubou.
Anybody say deep state? Easy.

2424
02:36:13,470 --> 02:36:17,940
They're not Hey, I'm no queuing
on man. I don't say no deep

2425
02:36:17,940 --> 02:36:18,270
sleep.

2426
02:36:19,710 --> 02:36:25,380
That's where we got to be. He
said deep state. But that's, we

2427
02:36:25,380 --> 02:36:28,710
laugh about it is gallows humor,
but that's where we're at.

2428
02:36:28,710 --> 02:36:35,310
Because if you believe Apple,
Facebook, Google can operate the

2429
02:36:35,310 --> 02:36:39,360
way they want to, if they will
give one man all that power.

2430
02:36:39,780 --> 02:36:42,810
Now, don't worry, don't worry
like that. It's like Zuckerberg

2431
02:36:42,840 --> 02:36:45,300
and notice they always call them
now whenever they want to do you

2432
02:36:45,300 --> 02:36:48,990
bet whoever not and it's not the
politicians. But they they are

2433
02:36:48,990 --> 02:36:51,630
doing the work of their their
bidders, too, right? It's like a

2434
02:36:52,140 --> 02:36:54,870
brings up down and bring them
down a notch. You're saying he's

2435
02:36:54,870 --> 02:36:58,380
getting a little you're saying
he's getting a little a little

2436
02:36:58,380 --> 02:37:04,350
you're headed up? I don't know,
make you take you down a notch.

2437
02:37:04,350 --> 02:37:09,480
But that's that's how it works.
And as people that will never be

2438
02:37:09,480 --> 02:37:13,920
voted out that call the shots?
Because they don't you know, we

2439
02:37:13,920 --> 02:37:17,010
don't elect our leaders, the
real leaders, the real ones.

2440
02:37:17,970 --> 02:37:20,160
They're supposed to be
representatives. But they can't

2441
02:37:20,160 --> 02:37:21,690
even do that. Now,

2442
02:37:21,720 --> 02:37:26,010
I use leaders for that we don't
elect our leaders. There you go.

2443
02:37:27,000 --> 02:37:29,310
We don't we don't don't even
vote for him. It's not they're

2444
02:37:29,310 --> 02:37:30,210
not on the list.

2445
02:37:30,330 --> 02:37:33,630
not on the list. Like you just

2446
02:37:33,630 --> 02:37:36,540
you're not on the list. That's
exactly.

2447
02:37:37,590 --> 02:37:42,960
So going back to 60 minutes and
back to Q anon and how corrosive

2448
02:37:42,960 --> 02:37:43,440
it is

2449
02:37:43,890 --> 02:37:48,960
at Homeland Security when you
were there was q1 on on your

2450
02:37:48,960 --> 02:37:50,850
radar as a threat.

2451
02:37:51,150 --> 02:37:55,380
The general consensus at that
time period was it could be a

2452
02:37:55,380 --> 02:37:59,460
low level policing concern
because we had a few incidents

2453
02:37:59,460 --> 02:38:05,040
of people conducting violence
but by and large, its ideology

2454
02:38:05,370 --> 02:38:09,390
is not one that promotes
violence. At least at that time,

2455
02:38:09,630 --> 02:38:13,830
what shifted what turned q anon
into a more violent kind of

2456
02:38:13,830 --> 02:38:15,030
conspiracy group.

2457
02:38:15,540 --> 02:38:18,840
It didn't become a violence
problem until Donald Trump lost

2458
02:38:18,840 --> 02:38:22,140
the election and then they felt
like oh, well, we better fix

2459
02:38:22,140 --> 02:38:25,080
that. Because otherwise Donald
Trump can't fix this other big

2460
02:38:25,080 --> 02:38:29,160
problem the deep state. state.

2461
02:38:30,240 --> 02:38:34,350
Q anon supporters charged into
battle with the crowd storming

2462
02:38:34,350 --> 02:38:40,080
the Capitol on January 6. Some
were easy to spot with their cue

2463
02:38:40,080 --> 02:38:42,030
signs and cute chance.

2464
02:38:47,820 --> 02:38:53,040
Inside officer Eugene Goodman
staved off rioters led by a man

2465
02:38:53,070 --> 02:38:57,990
in a cute shirt. Ashley Babbitt
killed at the Capitol had

2466
02:38:57,990 --> 02:39:01,710
previously tweeted a picture of
herself and accused tank top

2467
02:39:04,380 --> 02:39:07,620
a horrible violation of whatever
Yeah,

2468
02:39:08,339 --> 02:39:11,459
yeah, so we're gonna talk about
Ashley Babbitt. And it's gonna

2469
02:39:11,459 --> 02:39:14,879
take a lot of empathetic
listening to get through that

2470
02:39:14,879 --> 02:39:19,259
segment because I know as I
always say, this is why I wait

2471
02:39:19,259 --> 02:39:22,529
to talk about certain topics,
because I know it's very

2472
02:39:22,529 --> 02:39:26,909
triggering to people. And that,
you know, that's the barrier to

2473
02:39:26,909 --> 02:39:31,709
get over to you know, listen
empathetically to be unbiased,

2474
02:39:31,919 --> 02:39:35,099
to seek first to understand and
be understood. So that's part of

2475
02:39:35,099 --> 02:39:37,829
the show is just we have to take
our time and we talked about

2476
02:39:37,829 --> 02:39:42,179
thing because it has to be
digested, but before we do, we

2477
02:39:42,179 --> 02:39:43,619
got to get back to the
producers.

2478
02:39:43,769 --> 02:39:46,199
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2479
02:39:46,199 --> 02:39:51,209
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02:39:51,209 --> 02:39:55,169
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2495
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bless our producers. We ran
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2496
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Burch, we got Miguel SB now now
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So I didn't know how he wanted
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2508
02:41:46,410 --> 02:41:48,600
as I mean, of course, we bump
him up to the you know,

2509
02:41:50,100 --> 02:41:53,130
these associate executive
producer status,

2510
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right, but he had a special
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to merge. Careful

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with the new numerology. Yeah,
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mind. Three Henrietta Lacks. No
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about Henrietta Lacks, like what
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2525
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Adam for for the tireless and
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normally don't do on the 20. But
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only that, but the chemo thing
you were saying. Yeah, can we

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give us some karma? Yeah, cuz

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Yeah, I was thinking, do I do I
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if you have it on hand, I know I
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about. But yeah,

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well actually what I wanted to
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2556
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empathetic listener.

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Yeah. This is this is worth it.
You are in my head. Whoa, stop

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along with a little f cancer for
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You've got mocha

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Oh, okay, cool. Oh, excellent.
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2586
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for producing Episode 67

2587
02:47:05,940 --> 02:47:11,550
so actually Babbitt I see her as
the counterbalance to the George

2588
02:47:11,550 --> 02:47:15,240
fluid because it's the it's the
other end of the spectrum,

2589
02:47:15,240 --> 02:47:17,250
right? I mean, it couldn't get
more

2590
02:47:18,180 --> 02:47:21,480
more than more and more 180
degrees opposite agreed.

2591
02:47:21,960 --> 02:47:26,670
Right it screws with people's
heads. And that's why I was very

2592
02:47:29,010 --> 02:47:32,280
conscious of time when I
discussed about this um, which

2593
02:47:32,280 --> 02:47:35,250
didn't know this is a very
important portion of the show.

2594
02:47:35,580 --> 02:47:39,210
So let's get first into the
media's coverage of what

2595
02:47:39,210 --> 02:47:41,250
happened at the Capitol with
Ashley Babbitt.

2596
02:47:42,000 --> 02:47:45,690
This morning new details about
35 year old Ashley Babbitt, who

2597
02:47:45,690 --> 02:47:49,620
was shot and killed by a Capitol
Police Officer. video captures

2598
02:47:49,620 --> 02:47:53,880
the moment she fell to the
ground during the chaos. as

2599
02:47:53,880 --> 02:47:56,910
others warned of the danger.
medics then rushing her to the

2600
02:47:56,910 --> 02:48:00,990
hospital, but she later died. A
documentarian says he witnessed

2601
02:48:00,990 --> 02:48:01,620
the shooting

2602
02:48:02,910 --> 02:48:09,330
to go in, like going strong. And
next thing I know she was shot.

2603
02:48:09,360 --> 02:48:12,810
I do remember yelling guns when
I saw guns and trying to warn

2604
02:48:12,810 --> 02:48:15,750
her from going in like it was
like very slow motion because I

2605
02:48:15,750 --> 02:48:18,540
was trying to in my mind trying
to capture the scene

2606
02:48:18,570 --> 02:48:22,350
inside the house chamber that
broke the glass. lawmakers were

2607
02:48:22,350 --> 02:48:25,230
hiding including congressman
markwayne Mullen, who was

2608
02:48:25,230 --> 02:48:27,690
defending the officers actions.
He didn't

2609
02:48:27,690 --> 02:48:29,790
have a choice at that time the
mob was going to come through

2610
02:48:29,790 --> 02:48:30,300
the door there

2611
02:48:30,300 --> 02:48:33,720
was a lot of members and staff
that were in danger at the time.

2612
02:48:34,740 --> 02:48:38,490
Babbitt was a 12 year Air Force
veteran living in San Diego with

2613
02:48:38,490 --> 02:48:41,760
her husband. Her family
describes her as loving and says

2614
02:48:41,760 --> 02:48:51,900
she was a staunch supporter of
the President. She's knowing her

2615
02:48:51,900 --> 02:48:54,900
grandfather says Babbitt
attended every Trump rally she

2616
02:48:54,900 --> 02:48:55,410
could

2617
02:48:55,470 --> 02:49:02,760
excellent patriot. Ever Donald
Trump fan. She served time in

2618
02:49:02,760 --> 02:49:06,930
the military. She's passionate
about everything, particularly

2619
02:49:06,930 --> 02:49:08,190
Donald Trump for some reason.

2620
02:49:09,090 --> 02:49:12,870
The US Capitol Police officer
who shot Babbitt is now on leave

2621
02:49:12,900 --> 02:49:14,550
pending an investigation.

2622
02:49:15,330 --> 02:49:16,020
Yes.

2623
02:49:17,550 --> 02:49:24,600
Which we're going to get to him
next officer bird but first we

2624
02:49:24,600 --> 02:49:28,380
got to get some background on
Ashley Babbitt. And this is from

2625
02:49:28,410 --> 02:49:34,920
Dr. Todd grande day, which is a
psychiatrist from Arlington,

2626
02:49:34,920 --> 02:49:41,790
Virginia. Well, I think he's an
author as well. So he's gonna

2627
02:49:41,790 --> 02:49:44,250
get into the background of
actually Babbitt.

2628
02:49:44,580 --> 02:49:47,580
So I'll start with the
background, I'll talk about the

2629
02:49:47,580 --> 02:49:51,510
conspiratorial thinking and I'll
move to my analysis about the

2630
02:49:51,510 --> 02:49:54,840
shooting. At the time of her
death. Ashley Babbitt was 35

2631
02:49:54,840 --> 02:49:58,470
years old. She served in the Air
Force and Air National Guard for

2632
02:49:58,470 --> 02:50:03,210
many years. Her service Included
multiple deployments to Iraq.

2633
02:50:03,390 --> 02:50:06,420
She lived in Maryland for many
years. She was married when she

2634
02:50:06,420 --> 02:50:10,380
was there. She divorced and
moved to San Diego and remarried

2635
02:50:10,380 --> 02:50:13,620
in 2019. Babbitt had no
children. Her parents, her

2636
02:50:13,620 --> 02:50:17,490
grandfather and four brothers
lived in San Diego on January

2637
02:50:17,490 --> 02:50:22,080
6 2021, she was one of the many
protesters who stormed the

2638
02:50:22,080 --> 02:50:25,620
Capitol building in washington
dc in what appears to be an

2639
02:50:25,620 --> 02:50:29,250
attempt to disrupt the
certification of the 2020

2640
02:50:29,250 --> 02:50:32,880
presidential election. inside
the building. She was with a

2641
02:50:32,880 --> 02:50:36,900
number of other protesters in
front of these double doors that

2642
02:50:36,900 --> 02:50:41,040
led to the speaker's lobby, a
hallway that connects to the

2643
02:50:41,040 --> 02:50:45,030
House of Representatives chamber
not far from this members of

2644
02:50:45,030 --> 02:50:48,720
Congress were sheltering in
place. So there was a lot of

2645
02:50:48,720 --> 02:50:53,010
chaos a number of protesters
yelling, banging on the doors,

2646
02:50:53,040 --> 02:50:58,200
breaking windows, it was a time
of great stress caused by these

2647
02:50:58,200 --> 02:51:01,500
protesters. It is clear in the
videos that the doors are

2648
02:51:01,500 --> 02:51:05,220
barricaded from the other side
which should serve as a subtle

2649
02:51:05,220 --> 02:51:09,090
hint that trying to pass through
those doors may be an unpopular

2650
02:51:09,090 --> 02:51:13,080
decision. Babbitt was wearing
what looked to be a Trump flag

2651
02:51:13,170 --> 02:51:15,780
as a cape Okay,

2652
02:51:16,200 --> 02:51:22,470
so this is where depending on
what lens you're looking at this

2653
02:51:22,470 --> 02:51:31,710
through if it was a black male
unarmed going through a window I

2654
02:51:31,710 --> 02:51:34,950
don't care how many berries it
was it it might you can't shoot

2655
02:51:34,950 --> 02:51:43,680
it on on person but here we have
a white female veteran who was a

2656
02:51:43,680 --> 02:51:50,910
rack shot unarmed and it was
like it was a 180 degree

2657
02:51:50,940 --> 02:51:53,760
the you know the media response

2658
02:51:54,030 --> 02:51:57,240
not even media on social media
is like yeah she deserved the

2659
02:51:57,270 --> 02:52:00,570
same people were saying cops
shouldn't shoot people are

2660
02:52:00,570 --> 02:52:03,990
people and insane people were
saying that all summer you know

2661
02:52:04,020 --> 02:52:08,370
no person our property you know
property over human lives and

2662
02:52:08,370 --> 02:52:11,490
those kinds of things like Yeah,
she had it coming to her which I

2663
02:52:11,490 --> 02:52:17,670
found it to be maybe fastest of
all struck I was awestruck is

2664
02:52:17,670 --> 02:52:22,710
like wow like it really doesn't
matter what there's no ideology

2665
02:52:22,710 --> 02:52:29,280
behind this is strictly binary
is eat now it's okay to shoot

2666
02:52:29,280 --> 02:52:34,470
her because it fits your
narrative. I'm in a boat that no

2667
02:52:34,470 --> 02:52:39,480
unarmed person should be shot I
mean like I don't care who you

2668
02:52:39,480 --> 02:52:44,220
are, I don't care what you're
doing. But I also would like to

2669
02:52:44,220 --> 02:52:47,760
bring up the fact of when we
talked about the broken glass

2670
02:52:48,270 --> 02:52:53,970
when that glass breaks that's a
symbol of civility um, and these

2671
02:52:53,970 --> 02:53:01,980
people were charged up now but I
found it fascinating that once

2672
02:53:01,980 --> 02:53:05,340
side saying she shouldn't the
same side well you you do a

2673
02:53:05,340 --> 02:53:09,030
crime you killed him the act of
a crime you know is justified

2674
02:53:09,180 --> 02:53:11,850
that sounds like How dare you
shoot her and then the other

2675
02:53:11,850 --> 02:53:14,760
side is like you should never
shoot person was cheering the

2676
02:53:14,760 --> 02:53:18,150
cops on it was like his his
total mind screw so I don't know

2677
02:53:18,150 --> 02:53:20,220
how you took what you took away
from well

2678
02:53:22,140 --> 02:53:26,430
interestingly, I that is not
considered what you just said in

2679
02:53:26,430 --> 02:53:32,070
that comparison. It's fine. It's
very valid. It's very good. It I

2680
02:53:32,070 --> 02:53:36,450
mean, but we have a lot of these
we have my body my choice for

2681
02:53:36,480 --> 02:53:42,270
abortion, my body my choice, but
not for mandatory vaccines. I

2682
02:53:42,270 --> 02:53:50,250
mean, so these binary I just
have, I have no other word mind

2683
02:53:50,250 --> 02:53:54,510
fucks are being launched at us
like blow darts to the brain.

2684
02:53:55,530 --> 02:53:58,860
And perfectly balanced. Like I
said, you can't get more

2685
02:53:58,860 --> 02:54:01,680
balanced and counterbalance with
these two people when we look at

2686
02:54:01,680 --> 02:54:05,790
actually Batman and George
Floyd. Um, the way they were

2687
02:54:06,960 --> 02:54:11,160
handled by the media and then
how they were consumed by the

2688
02:54:11,160 --> 02:54:15,570
public at large. With that said,
I want to get into the second

2689
02:54:15,570 --> 02:54:19,440
clip. Now just I want to say and
I'm gonna leave, it cannot lead

2690
02:54:19,440 --> 02:54:24,870
you But imagine if you hear
these things about a unarmed

2691
02:54:24,870 --> 02:54:27,240
black man shot in America.

2692
02:54:27,600 --> 02:54:31,680
Babbitt had some prior run ins
with law enforcement. In 2016.

2693
02:54:31,860 --> 02:54:35,820
She was issued a peace order,
which is essentially the state

2694
02:54:35,820 --> 02:54:39,060
of Maryland's version of a
restraining order and charged

2695
02:54:39,060 --> 02:54:42,210
with reckless endangerment and
the malicious destruction of

2696
02:54:42,210 --> 02:54:45,840
property. This appears to have
been connected to a road rage

2697
02:54:45,870 --> 02:54:50,190
incident. She hit a woman's car
three times and chased her

2698
02:54:50,190 --> 02:54:52,890
through the streets. From what I
understand the victim was a

2699
02:54:52,890 --> 02:54:55,860
woman who had previously dated
Babbitt's boyfriend at that

2700
02:54:55,860 --> 02:55:00,000
time, that it was found not
guilty of both charges in 27

2701
02:55:00,000 --> 02:55:04,350
Teen a second piece order was
issued, and she was charged with

2702
02:55:04,350 --> 02:55:07,890
willful motor vehicle damage
without the owner's consent. In

2703
02:55:07,890 --> 02:55:11,220
2019. a complaint was filed
against her for aggressive

2704
02:55:11,220 --> 02:55:14,280
driving, but it was thrown out
because of a jurisdiction

2705
02:55:14,280 --> 02:55:17,580
related problem. Ashley Babbitt
appeared to have a number of

2706
02:55:17,580 --> 02:55:20,460
unusual beliefs that may have
contributed to her criminal

2707
02:55:20,460 --> 02:55:25,110
behavior. Her posts on social
media appear to indicate that

2708
02:55:25,110 --> 02:55:28,440
she believed in conspiracy
theories. one specific

2709
02:55:28,440 --> 02:55:32,940
conspiracy theory that she is
associated with is q anon she

2710
02:55:32,940 --> 02:55:37,170
made a reference to the storm in
a tweet the day before death she

2711
02:55:37,170 --> 02:55:40,320
was seen wearing a que Amnon
shirt and a photo on social

2712
02:55:40,320 --> 02:55:44,460
media and she also posted a
hashtag that refers to the

2713
02:55:44,460 --> 02:55:49,590
phrase where we go one we go all
which is also associated with

2714
02:55:49,590 --> 02:55:51,180
that same conspiracy theory.

2715
02:55:51,750 --> 02:55:54,330
Wow, I didn't know about the
priors.

2716
02:55:55,380 --> 02:55:59,040
Yeah, that's well, now imagine

2717
02:55:59,130 --> 02:56:02,490
what Nope, and I can't because
we had all the priors with

2718
02:56:02,490 --> 02:56:06,240
George Floyd. We had a hole in
the gun up to the pregnant

2719
02:56:06,240 --> 02:56:08,970
woman's belly drugs etc.

2720
02:56:09,929 --> 02:56:14,609
And what was said that doesn't
matter at the time of him being

2721
02:56:14,759 --> 02:56:18,629
killed no other guy was the
other guy. I mean something

2722
02:56:18,629 --> 02:56:24,329
Blake it slipped my mind but he
actually was coming over to

2723
02:56:24,329 --> 02:56:27,659
attack his baby mama when he was
shot seven times he didn't die

2724
02:56:27,869 --> 02:56:30,809
but the vice president you're
saying now now a Vice President

2725
02:56:30,809 --> 02:56:34,109
went and visited him or did a
video call with him you know

2726
02:56:34,139 --> 02:56:38,249
Jacob Blake that's his name but
what I'm saying is but on the

2727
02:56:38,279 --> 02:56:41,099
other side of this I was
critical of Candace Owens for

2728
02:56:41,099 --> 02:56:45,569
this about bringing up people's
past yes you're saying to

2729
02:56:45,569 --> 02:56:48,749
deflect yep so I'm just saying
like you just said it's

2730
02:56:48,990 --> 02:56:52,440
no we're not immune is what
you're saying. Right?

2731
02:56:52,470 --> 02:56:57,150
We're no one's immune and they
they create these narratives in

2732
02:56:57,150 --> 02:57:01,740
the media to it so you can play
it out nobody's based in

2733
02:57:01,770 --> 02:57:07,320
ideology at all it's about my
team your team like I said red

2734
02:57:07,320 --> 02:57:07,920
blue

2735
02:57:08,730 --> 02:57:11,550
white 100

2736
02:57:13,290 --> 02:57:16,110
and and this is another thing
and we've seen what I think the

2737
02:57:16,110 --> 02:57:20,070
what's the case now with Gabby
the the white lady it was killed

2738
02:57:20,070 --> 02:57:23,670
in the whole princess or what is
called the princess effect or

2739
02:57:23,850 --> 02:57:25,800
how white women are covered in
the media

2740
02:57:25,800 --> 02:57:26,850
Yes, yeah,

2741
02:57:26,880 --> 02:57:34,650
yeah. Here's the white lady that
was killed unarmed meets a man

2742
02:57:34,650 --> 02:57:37,680
we ain't touching that now you
were queuing on you were saying

2743
02:57:37,680 --> 02:57:41,460
she deserved she had it coming
in like I said a

2744
02:57:42,900 --> 02:57:47,250
snatch the pebbles from my hand
grasshopper You may go now you

2745
02:57:47,250 --> 02:57:51,120
have surpassed me I have to
write this down for myself I

2746
02:57:51,120 --> 02:57:56,460
can't believe that I that I
didn't see this I didn't see it

2747
02:57:57,570 --> 02:58:00,390
but that said that's why we come
here and have the conversation

2748
02:58:00,450 --> 02:58:01,020
that way

2749
02:58:01,050 --> 02:58:02,670
well there's two of us here I

2750
02:58:04,380 --> 02:58:09,660
know it's amazing man I'm very
I'm very proud on social media

2751
02:58:09,660 --> 02:58:13,380
with disgusting light for any
human light to be taking power

2752
02:58:13,380 --> 02:58:14,220
she had it coming in

2753
02:58:14,220 --> 02:58:23,040
I I'm very impressed with your
your ability to to see that

2754
02:58:26,700 --> 02:58:32,370
I'm because I know how it should
be covered any other time on ARM

2755
02:58:32,550 --> 02:58:36,570
white lady get shot in America
she shouldn't be the bad guy I

2756
02:58:36,570 --> 02:58:39,390
mean to me was the

2757
02:58:39,750 --> 02:58:45,750
you know the general response to
Joy Joy read saying you know

2758
02:58:45,750 --> 02:58:48,240
white woman that's what that's
why it's getting all this

2759
02:58:48,240 --> 02:58:53,340
coverage and the general
response that I saw which of

2760
02:58:53,340 --> 02:58:56,100
course should have been Oh yeah,
well why aren't you covering

2761
02:58:56,100 --> 02:59:01,200
Ashley Babbitt etc. was well
because when it's a black woman,

2762
02:59:01,410 --> 02:59:04,980
most of the time is killed by
black man. And you don't want to

2763
02:59:04,980 --> 02:59:06,000
tell anybody that

2764
02:59:08,310 --> 02:59:14,130
most of the time is interracial
anytime somebody say that that's

2765
02:59:15,660 --> 02:59:19,380
it's amazing how they do these
mind tricks on people. And

2766
02:59:19,380 --> 02:59:23,460
that's why I'm telling people
like be based in it be based in

2767
02:59:23,460 --> 02:59:28,830
something like that's why I'm
big on law. That's why I'm big

2768
02:59:28,830 --> 02:59:33,360
on math. It's logic, right? It's
okay, I can make sense of this.

2769
02:59:33,780 --> 02:59:38,190
When you are based solely in
teams and sides and those kinds

2770
02:59:38,190 --> 02:59:38,640
of things. Yeah,

2771
02:59:38,670 --> 02:59:41,370
you don't you don't work. They
can jerk

2772
02:59:41,370 --> 02:59:43,740
you around. I mean, they can
they can completely jerk you

2773
02:59:43,740 --> 02:59:47,040
around and tell you what it
does. It makes you look silly.

2774
02:59:47,430 --> 02:59:52,290
Because it's like, oh, no, I
thought you were pro cops. Or

2775
02:59:52,290 --> 02:59:55,800
anti cops and like it's like
it's it's the perfect monster

2776
02:59:55,800 --> 02:59:59,820
like you said, But um, yeah, I
was just, I was like, if I heard

2777
02:59:59,820 --> 03:00:04,290
like, If they said, innocent,
unarmed we're not not We're

2778
03:00:04,290 --> 03:00:07,200
innocent cuz she was committing
a crime but innocent in the fact

2779
03:00:07,200 --> 03:00:13,260
of not being a threat to an
armed person if that was a black

2780
03:00:13,260 --> 03:00:16,230
man coming through a window and
a white man has shot him. all

2781
03:00:16,230 --> 03:00:18,510
hell broke loose. Again. Oh
yeah.

2782
03:00:18,539 --> 03:00:21,089
Oh absolutely. you're nailing
that you're nailing that.

2783
03:00:21,270 --> 03:00:24,390
Yep. All right, so let's go
ahead and go to the 35.

2784
03:00:24,539 --> 03:00:27,629
Here's a summary of what the
followers of this conspiracy

2785
03:00:27,629 --> 03:00:32,339
theory belief. They believe
there's an evil organization

2786
03:00:32,519 --> 03:00:36,689
made up of people who worship
Satan, and they also cause other

2787
03:00:36,689 --> 03:00:40,529
types of harm. The leaders of
this evil organization tend to

2788
03:00:40,529 --> 03:00:44,729
be entertainers and politicians.
Donald Trump is a part of this

2789
03:00:44,759 --> 03:00:48,509
ongoing battle with these evil
people. Ashley Babbitt had a

2790
03:00:48,509 --> 03:00:53,249
particular dedication to Trump,
she was a militant supporter of

2791
03:00:53,249 --> 03:00:56,549
his at some point drilling will
bring about what the followers

2792
03:00:56,549 --> 03:01:00,959
referred to as the storm, and
the Great Awakening, again,

2793
03:01:00,959 --> 03:01:05,189
Babbitt's specifically referred
to the storm, the storm is when

2794
03:01:05,189 --> 03:01:09,299
Trump will rest the evildoers
and send them to prison. The

2795
03:01:09,299 --> 03:01:13,139
storm is really about
aggression, and revenge, it's

2796
03:01:13,139 --> 03:01:16,679
when the conspiracy theorist
will punish the people who

2797
03:01:16,679 --> 03:01:20,129
laughed at them. Now the Great
Awakening is different. This is

2798
03:01:20,129 --> 03:01:23,189
when the beliefs of the
followers will be validated,

2799
03:01:23,519 --> 03:01:26,969
when all the people in the world
will realize that this whole

2800
03:01:26,969 --> 03:01:31,319
time along the followers were
correct. So these conspiracy

2801
03:01:31,319 --> 03:01:35,069
theorists actually believe that
they have some type of special

2802
03:01:35,069 --> 03:01:38,579
knowledge, perhaps they are
chosen, or just incredibly

2803
03:01:38,579 --> 03:01:42,179
intelligent, and they can see
and understand what the rest of

2804
03:01:42,179 --> 03:01:46,799
the population cannot. So
everybody's being fooled, except

2805
03:01:46,799 --> 03:01:50,909
them. After the storm in the
Great Awakening, a utopia will

2806
03:01:50,909 --> 03:01:53,549
be established. And the
followers of the conspiracy

2807
03:01:53,549 --> 03:01:57,659
theory will be exalted as
heroes, people who save the

2808
03:01:57,659 --> 03:02:02,279
world from certain destruction.
Yeah, that sums

2809
03:02:02,280 --> 03:02:03,120
it up pretty well, I'd

2810
03:02:03,120 --> 03:02:11,100
say. What once again there,
Megan Q and on the opposite the

2811
03:02:11,100 --> 03:02:15,000
polar opposite of science, we're
in the same way or the same

2812
03:02:15,000 --> 03:02:18,330
paradigm, but it's a polar
opposite of we have secret

2813
03:02:18,330 --> 03:02:20,820
knowledge that you can't
understand, isn't it? how

2814
03:02:20,820 --> 03:02:26,130
science is put on us? You You,
you know, you can't research

2815
03:02:26,850 --> 03:02:32,070
your research. Like, you have a
PhD and, you know, whatever

2816
03:02:32,070 --> 03:02:35,100
you're saying whatever science
or, you know, you didn't you

2817
03:02:35,100 --> 03:02:40,980
didn't code Microsoft. You know,
that didn't make you a expert on

2818
03:02:40,980 --> 03:02:44,100
vaccines, you know, that kind of
thing. So but it's the opposite

2819
03:02:44,130 --> 03:02:47,730
end of it that you don't know
what these symbols mean. You

2820
03:02:47,730 --> 03:02:51,240
know, you can't interpret this
language. The signs that we're

2821
03:02:51,240 --> 03:02:54,180
being given, it's a religion.
Well, not another religion.

2822
03:02:54,180 --> 03:02:54,390
That's

2823
03:02:54,390 --> 03:02:59,280
a technocratic religion. Yeah,
the technocrats that the the

2824
03:02:59,280 --> 03:03:03,090
experts know best. And they just
have to be managed in the

2825
03:03:03,090 --> 03:03:06,240
messaging is funneled, and
there's consensus and that's

2826
03:03:06,270 --> 03:03:11,190
technocrats. That's and that's,
that's 1984 technocrats.

2827
03:03:11,430 --> 03:03:16,620
Yeah. So like I said, they put
these people in the same boat,

2828
03:03:16,620 --> 03:03:19,110
but they don't realize it like
You sound just like the

2829
03:03:19,110 --> 03:03:23,070
scientists. But you can't
understand this. You don't have

2830
03:03:23,070 --> 03:03:25,620
enough brain power to decide
what goes in your body for

2831
03:03:25,620 --> 03:03:30,630
yourself. Like what like how?
Yeah, so but I found it

2832
03:03:30,630 --> 03:03:35,250
fascinating. And I bet you
that's the first time in world

2833
03:03:35,250 --> 03:03:38,730
history that military has been
used in the same sense that with

2834
03:03:38,730 --> 03:03:42,810
a white woman, because militant
were reserved for black men and

2835
03:03:43,410 --> 03:03:49,830
black women the like, how was
her who was the was the famous

2836
03:03:49,830 --> 03:03:56,820
black female Black Panther. Ah,
stylish decor. Yes. Yeah, she

2837
03:03:56,820 --> 03:03:58,770
would be she would be classified
as militant.

2838
03:03:59,040 --> 03:04:03,690
Right, but I never heard that
term. No. Welcome to the bottom

2839
03:04:03,720 --> 03:04:11,070
I tell you when I say this, I
say in jest you start throwing

2840
03:04:11,070 --> 03:04:13,380
around like Mills I almost fell
off my chair when I heard that

2841
03:04:13,380 --> 03:04:17,490
that one was doing for me. I was
like militant. I've never heard

2842
03:04:17,490 --> 03:04:22,830
that used for our Caucasian or
white female. I never heard I

2843
03:04:22,830 --> 03:04:23,190
mean, my

2844
03:04:23,190 --> 03:04:25,920
right I'm searching my brain. I
think you're right.

2845
03:04:28,500 --> 03:04:35,880
Wow. So he was more left leaning
if I had to guess, more of the

2846
03:04:35,880 --> 03:04:39,660
mainstream media type coverage
of it. Now we got to go out the

2847
03:04:39,720 --> 03:04:44,190
outtake with claim book and get
their take on not only we're not

2848
03:04:44,190 --> 03:04:47,130
going to really talk about
Ashley Babbitt but more of

2849
03:04:47,370 --> 03:04:49,590
officer burn and his coverage in
media

2850
03:04:49,770 --> 03:04:56,010
interview last night on NBC News
with Lieutenant Michael Byrd,

2851
03:04:56,490 --> 03:04:58,920
who it's been rumored I think on
the internet for a while that he

2852
03:04:58,920 --> 03:05:04,350
was in fact The the individual
involved here, but he is the

2853
03:05:04,350 --> 03:05:08,370
Capitol Hill police officer who
shot Ashley Bab in the neck, no

2854
03:05:08,370 --> 03:05:12,000
clay and I, you know, I've had
some background in law

2855
03:05:12,000 --> 03:05:16,920
enforcement and, and baseline
tactical training. Clay

2856
03:05:16,920 --> 03:05:20,490
obviously is a lawyer, we wanted
to go through some of this. And

2857
03:05:20,490 --> 03:05:23,850
really, first of all, it was a,
they couldn't have tried to make

2858
03:05:23,850 --> 03:05:26,820
it a more favorable platform for
officer burns narrative, you'll

2859
03:05:26,820 --> 03:05:29,940
hear that yourself. We want to
take this though piece by piece

2860
03:05:30,330 --> 03:05:33,660
and address. I mean, for me,
this is the whole thing is

2861
03:05:33,660 --> 03:05:37,140
outrageous, because the politics
involved are quite clear in

2862
03:05:37,140 --> 03:05:39,630
terms of how this has been
handled. But let's start with

2863
03:05:39,660 --> 03:05:45,750
Michael Byrd, saying that he
showed tremendous courage in the

2864
03:05:45,750 --> 03:05:46,230
shooting

2865
03:05:46,410 --> 03:05:52,980
of the course I do. That is very
vital point. And it's something

2866
03:05:52,980 --> 03:05:58,770
that is frightening. I believe I
showed the most carriage on

2867
03:05:58,770 --> 03:06:03,810
January 6, and it's time for me
to do that now. The utmost

2868
03:06:03,810 --> 03:06:08,430
courage clay. I have you heard
any of the officers involved in

2869
03:06:09,150 --> 03:06:12,720
fatal shootings that got a lot
of national attention? And

2870
03:06:12,720 --> 03:06:15,810
including times when an
assailant was reaching for a gun

2871
03:06:15,810 --> 03:06:18,750
or going for a knife? Have you
heard any of them ever say,

2872
03:06:18,870 --> 03:06:21,630
Well, I showed tremendous
courage and shooting that

2873
03:06:21,630 --> 03:06:22,170
person?

2874
03:06:22,620 --> 03:06:27,390
No. And if they did, we already
have protests. But there would

2875
03:06:27,390 --> 03:06:29,610
be mass rioting in the streets.

2876
03:06:30,720 --> 03:06:34,260
Yeah, clean buck. They took rush
limbaugh slot.

2877
03:06:35,189 --> 03:06:41,159
Yeah. Can you imagine the cop or
cops that shot Briana Taylor

2878
03:06:41,190 --> 03:06:45,630
say really courageous that day,
we're I'll show some

2879
03:06:45,630 --> 03:06:52,470
courage. But Matt, just just let
that soak in. And I didn't I

2880
03:06:52,470 --> 03:06:55,920
usually don't use sound bites.
But Lieutenant Byrd, I'm going

2881
03:06:55,920 --> 03:06:59,790
to let you know now on the last
tapes. I'm going to go through

2882
03:06:59,790 --> 03:07:03,570
that majority of that 36 minute
interview, sit down with him

2883
03:07:03,600 --> 03:07:06,690
good because I didn't want to,
like I said they've been this

2884
03:07:06,690 --> 03:07:10,050
has been a nine hour show. Just
breaking that down in itself.

2885
03:07:10,050 --> 03:07:15,930
But once again, of all the
officers. It had to be a black

2886
03:07:15,930 --> 03:07:21,510
man. Yeah, not a white woman.
Are you kidding?

2887
03:07:21,960 --> 03:07:26,340
Me? So but you know, if you say
that, and this was something

2888
03:07:26,340 --> 03:07:30,480
that has been hammered out
incessantly, you know, it's

2889
03:07:30,480 --> 03:07:35,010
called What about ism. So it's
like, well, if that were Trump,

2890
03:07:35,280 --> 03:07:40,200
but this is so it's such a cool
way of showing it. It's like

2891
03:07:40,200 --> 03:07:43,110
please look at the polar
opposites of the of the

2892
03:07:43,110 --> 03:07:44,040
situation.

2893
03:07:44,640 --> 03:07:49,710
That if you're thinking and
speaking binary, because it was

2894
03:07:49,710 --> 03:07:52,980
make your site right or wrong,
what I'm doing is and what we're

2895
03:07:52,980 --> 03:07:58,530
doing is looking at the nuances
of the story, and say look at

2896
03:07:58,530 --> 03:08:04,590
this is perfect, in a tear in a
tragic way. But in perfect that

2897
03:08:04,590 --> 03:08:10,290
you have the black black man
that pulled the trigger in

2898
03:08:10,290 --> 03:08:16,290
America, the shadow white on
unarmed woman that was going

2899
03:08:16,290 --> 03:08:19,950
into property, we are awesome or
property doesn't. You're saying

2900
03:08:20,010 --> 03:08:24,960
human lives Trump property? But
it was like, Okay, yeah, cool. I

2901
03:08:24,960 --> 03:08:30,000
don't know. I'm all for it. Cuz
she was militant? Like, I could

2902
03:08:30,000 --> 03:08:34,260
say, but I knew he was black.
When I didn't bring him out.

2903
03:08:34,470 --> 03:08:37,410
When they hit him. for that
long. I was like, yeah, yeah.

2904
03:08:37,440 --> 03:08:40,920
And there's a timing. There's a
timing that goes with this. It

2905
03:08:40,950 --> 03:08:44,970
was why they brought him out and
when they brought him out, but

2906
03:08:44,970 --> 03:08:48,090
let's let clay and buck finish
up first, just

2907
03:08:48,090 --> 03:08:53,520
think what the reaction would be
on Black Lives Matter. If a

2908
03:08:53,520 --> 03:09:00,120
white police officer who shot an
unarmed protester had said all

2909
03:09:00,120 --> 03:09:04,500
of these things, what the
reaction would be compared to

2910
03:09:04,500 --> 03:09:08,550
the comparative crickets. In
response to this, let's just

2911
03:09:08,550 --> 03:09:12,360
keep playing these clips
because, again, I think a large

2912
03:09:12,360 --> 03:09:16,200
part of our audience has not
heard all of these quotes, and

2913
03:09:16,200 --> 03:09:19,500
certainly as you said, Buck,
this gentleman had not even been

2914
03:09:19,500 --> 03:09:23,130
named prior to this interview
that he just decided to do.

2915
03:09:24,630 --> 03:09:30,510
Here he is discussing that he
believed Ashley Babbitt was

2916
03:09:30,540 --> 03:09:34,290
posing an imminent threat.
Remember, this is a an unarmed

2917
03:09:34,290 --> 03:09:39,120
woman, still on the other side
of the door, trying to break in

2918
03:09:39,120 --> 03:09:42,930
and open a door. He has the gun
drawn for quite as plenty of

2919
03:09:42,930 --> 03:09:45,960
time he can see exactly what's
going on. It's on video, we have

2920
03:09:45,960 --> 03:09:49,830
video of this encounter. Here is
what he says had

2921
03:09:49,830 --> 03:09:53,250
been yelling and screaming as
loud as I was. Please stop, get

2922
03:09:53,250 --> 03:09:56,790
back, get back. Stop. We have a
weapon strong.

2923
03:09:56,820 --> 03:10:00,180
We see your arm out there for a
considerable amount of time. Are

2924
03:10:00,330 --> 03:10:01,260
we wavering?

2925
03:10:01,740 --> 03:10:06,780
I was taking a tactical stance,
you're ultimately hoping that

2926
03:10:07,290 --> 03:10:11,520
your commands will be complied
with? And unfortunately, they

2927
03:10:11,520 --> 03:10:12,000
were not

2928
03:10:12,030 --> 03:10:14,130
what did you think as
individuals doing it that

2929
03:10:15,090 --> 03:10:19,050
he was posing a threat to the
United States? House of

2930
03:10:19,050 --> 03:10:19,950
Representatives?

2931
03:10:21,120 --> 03:10:24,630
Not threat to me, not a threat
to me. Listen to what he said

2932
03:10:24,630 --> 03:10:29,910
again, at the very last 15
seconds. I'm sorry about that.

2933
03:10:29,939 --> 03:10:34,079
Yeah, no, it's no problem. Yeah,
you were so right about that

2934
03:10:34,140 --> 03:10:39,120
the holding that your commands
will be complied with? And

2935
03:10:39,120 --> 03:10:41,280
unfortunately, they were not
what did you think as

2936
03:10:41,280 --> 03:10:46,680
individuals doing it? He was
posing a threat to United States

2937
03:10:47,070 --> 03:10:48,360
House of Representatives.

2938
03:10:48,420 --> 03:10:51,090
Oh, first of all, he says that
she wasn't responding to his

2939
03:10:51,090 --> 03:10:55,710
commands. What? I didn't hear
him command anything on any

2940
03:10:55,710 --> 03:10:56,340
audio.

2941
03:10:57,270 --> 03:11:00,480
Right. And then the other thing
is, he didn't say she was a

2942
03:11:00,480 --> 03:11:03,810
threat to me. Which I think
that's imminent threat is to

2943
03:11:03,810 --> 03:11:08,460
you, not to whatever you're
protecting.

2944
03:11:08,520 --> 03:11:10,620
I'm not sure what the rules are.
I'm not sure what

2945
03:11:12,120 --> 03:11:20,250
for I could say from my law
degree from SBU. Law order Fbu.

2946
03:11:20,910 --> 03:11:27,690
I'm a proud graduate. That's how
I understand it to be it has to

2947
03:11:27,690 --> 03:11:30,750
be your life needs to be now it
might be different from federal

2948
03:11:30,750 --> 03:11:33,930
police or Capitol Police. I
don't know what you're saying he

2949
03:11:33,930 --> 03:11:36,960
meant he didn't say me. He
didn't say she was a threat to

2950
03:11:36,960 --> 03:11:41,490
me. If he said that, I wouldn't
even say okay, well, you don't

2951
03:11:41,490 --> 03:11:45,270
know what a person has. Right.
You know, you know, I would take

2952
03:11:45,270 --> 03:11:49,260
it differently. But I can say I
don't want to be but I don't

2953
03:11:49,260 --> 03:11:52,680
want to belabor the point. But
it was just fascinating. I could

2954
03:11:52,680 --> 03:11:59,430
say this. You say psyops, and I
don't use that word. I don't use

2955
03:11:59,430 --> 03:12:03,180
that word. You're saying it, but
what are you doing here? What

2956
03:12:03,180 --> 03:12:06,900
what are we doing here?
Seriously? What what? How could

2957
03:12:06,900 --> 03:12:11,130
you? How could you make you
couldn't if you wrote this to my

2958
03:12:11,130 --> 03:12:11,970
without a script out?

2959
03:12:11,970 --> 03:12:16,770
Like No, I'm really disappointed
in myself. It because, you know,

2960
03:12:18,240 --> 03:12:23,070
I see all these things, but I
didn't see it all the way

2961
03:12:23,070 --> 03:12:27,420
through. And I'm really happy
that you brought this up and how

2962
03:12:27,420 --> 03:12:32,010
you unfolded this because I
Gosh, I mean, obviously, it's

2963
03:12:32,010 --> 03:12:35,670
the whole system does this. You
know, there was another example

2964
03:12:35,670 --> 03:12:42,630
today where President Biden said
or his Jen circle back Jen said,

2965
03:12:42,630 --> 03:12:45,660
well, President Biden is not
taking questions from the press

2966
03:12:45,660 --> 03:12:48,120
because you're not on point
you're not asking questions that

2967
03:12:48,150 --> 03:12:52,320
are about the meeting that he's
having. And I'm like, holy shit,

2968
03:12:52,350 --> 03:12:56,130
you know, it's like that was if
Trump said that as they would

2969
03:12:56,130 --> 03:12:59,910
always ask questions had nothing
to do with the with the world

2970
03:12:59,910 --> 03:13:01,560
leader who was sitting there
with them

2971
03:13:02,040 --> 03:13:04,650
with taxes. Are you really sure
taxes?

2972
03:13:06,480 --> 03:13:12,000
Yeah, so So I mean, 45 savage
was, you know, his his message

2973
03:13:13,110 --> 03:13:16,860
is become a bit cliche, but they
really are public enemy number

2974
03:13:16,860 --> 03:13:17,310
one,

2975
03:13:18,330 --> 03:13:30,150
a him in America, Mexico. But
there's a reason if you forgive

2976
03:13:30,150 --> 03:13:34,080
yourself, there's a reason why
you didn't get into this. There

2977
03:13:34,080 --> 03:13:37,470
was something simultaneously
going on. At the time when

2978
03:13:37,830 --> 03:13:40,620
Lieutenant Byrd came out and had
his interview that could

2979
03:13:40,620 --> 03:13:43,470
possibly be a smokescreen. 38

2980
03:13:44,160 --> 03:13:46,920
I'm joined now by Congressman
Madeline dean of Pennsylvania,

2981
03:13:46,920 --> 03:13:50,250
one of the lawmakers whose life
officer Byrd was protecting that

2982
03:13:50,250 --> 03:13:52,800
day and Congresswoman I just
want to give you the opportunity

2983
03:13:52,800 --> 03:13:54,870
to react what you've just seen
and heard.

2984
03:13:56,250 --> 03:13:58,590
First, joy, thank you for
including me on this

2985
03:13:58,590 --> 03:14:04,050
heartbreaking day. Yeah, for our
country. And so my sympathies to

2986
03:14:04,050 --> 03:14:08,370
the servicemembers families to
the 13. Now, I guess that we

2987
03:14:08,370 --> 03:14:12,570
have lost in 15 wounded and, of
course, scores of Afghans and

2988
03:14:12,570 --> 03:14:16,650
others. I condemn the terrorist
attacks, we have to continue on

2989
03:14:16,650 --> 03:14:23,940
this mission. But joy, that
interview, I was staggered. To

2990
03:14:23,940 --> 03:14:27,720
learn that it was Lieutenant
Byrd who made that announcement

2991
03:14:27,720 --> 03:14:31,560
on the floor of the house. For
the last seven months. I have

2992
03:14:31,560 --> 03:14:36,690
wondered, who wasn't trying to
help save our lives. I was out

2993
03:14:36,930 --> 03:14:41,070
in the gallery that day, as they
told us first sit down, prepare

2994
03:14:41,070 --> 03:14:45,570
to lie down, then get your guest
masks out from under your seat.

2995
03:14:45,990 --> 03:14:52,080
And then that announcement, they
they've infiltrated the rotunda

2996
03:14:52,230 --> 03:14:56,130
and tear gas has been deployed.
I have wondered for months, who

2997
03:14:56,130 --> 03:14:59,970
did that to save our lives. And
what I want people to know is

2998
03:15:00,000 --> 03:15:06,090
Number one, thank you. Thank
you. Number two, I hope people

2999
03:15:06,090 --> 03:15:08,820
understand the proximity of
where he was first on the

3000
03:15:08,820 --> 03:15:14,610
rostrum, and then where Ashley
Babbitt was shot. It was feet

3001
03:15:14,670 --> 03:15:19,470
away after Ashley Babbitt, sadly
with all those other riders

3002
03:15:19,650 --> 03:15:22,860
broke through security gate
after security gate after

3003
03:15:22,860 --> 03:15:23,790
security gate.

3004
03:15:24,990 --> 03:15:27,990
Yeah, that would have been
something to cover it up that

3005
03:15:27,990 --> 03:15:28,890
little news.

3006
03:15:30,600 --> 03:15:34,320
How can we I mean, it's like
Bill Cosby getting convicted. He

3007
03:15:34,320 --> 03:15:40,170
was saying at the same time, we
had a what's the Kavanaugh case?

3008
03:15:40,680 --> 03:15:45,090
How convenient. I mean, just 13
days soldiers outcomes.

3009
03:15:45,390 --> 03:15:47,640
Lieutenant Byrd all of a sudden
out of the blue.

3010
03:15:50,160 --> 03:15:55,170
T Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
You know, I'm glad you're 10

3011
03:15:55,170 --> 03:15:56,100
years younger than me.

3012
03:15:57,660 --> 03:16:01,230
forgive you. Like I said, I
know. You were down that rabbit

3013
03:16:01,230 --> 03:16:01,620
hole.

3014
03:16:02,940 --> 03:16:03,900
at work. That's true,

3015
03:16:04,620 --> 03:16:05,730
man. Yeah,

3016
03:16:05,880 --> 03:16:09,270
I was I was on, you know, like
telegram and signal with people

3017
03:16:09,270 --> 03:16:12,930
in Qatar in Afghanistan. Yeah,
that's true. Well, again, that's

3018
03:16:12,930 --> 03:16:15,720
why there's there's two of us.
This is good news. Different

3019
03:16:15,720 --> 03:16:19,920
beats. Yeah, different beats.
But yeah, I just find that

3020
03:16:19,920 --> 03:16:23,100
interesting. The timing of that.
And the other thing I found

3021
03:16:23,100 --> 03:16:27,030
strange is now I've seen a lot
of 24. I've seen a lot of

3022
03:16:28,980 --> 03:16:34,440
homeland. And he shows is it
really our representatives laid

3023
03:16:34,440 --> 03:16:37,950
out where you're at? Really,
that's what we're doing? What

3024
03:16:38,640 --> 03:16:39,180
did you see

3025
03:16:39,180 --> 03:16:42,450
those gas masks that they look
like the things that drop out of

3026
03:16:42,450 --> 03:16:44,580
the overhead bin in the
airplane?

3027
03:16:45,930 --> 03:16:48,960
I'm saying but the reaction plan
is to lay down where you're at,

3028
03:16:48,990 --> 03:16:51,960
like there's no tunnels then.
I'm highly disappointed in my

3029
03:16:51,960 --> 03:17:00,090
government. By I mean, you take
Yeah, it really we don't have

3030
03:17:00,690 --> 03:17:03,750
secret elevators that you know,
oh, no, no,

3031
03:17:03,750 --> 03:17:09,210
some some representatives do.
Absolutely. Pelosi was out real

3032
03:17:09,210 --> 03:17:13,080
quick. They had pans out real
quick. They were all in they

3033
03:17:13,080 --> 03:17:15,540
were all in the tunnels and
stuff. Oh, for sure. But you

3034
03:17:15,540 --> 03:17:17,220
know, there's like a little room

3035
03:17:17,220 --> 03:17:19,560
or something like, I've seen
homeland? I

3036
03:17:21,030 --> 03:17:26,580
don't know. I guess not. I guess
that's all it's all fake.

3037
03:17:28,290 --> 03:17:32,460
I'm doubting I'm seriously
disappointing. When, whenever

3038
03:17:32,460 --> 03:17:36,510
somebody a real threat rose up,
he was going to lay down on the

3039
03:17:36,510 --> 03:17:37,950
floor. Everything.

3040
03:17:39,840 --> 03:17:41,910
laid on the floor, everything
will be okay. Everything will be

3041
03:17:41,910 --> 03:17:43,560
okay. It'll be fine. It'll be
fine.

3042
03:17:43,590 --> 03:17:47,550
Like you say I put the airline
mask on just later. She thanked

3043
03:17:47,550 --> 03:17:50,820
me for that. I don't know who
did it for seven months. I

3044
03:17:50,820 --> 03:17:53,880
wanted to know, he was the one
who put this change into place.

3045
03:17:53,880 --> 03:17:57,870
I'm gonna lay down the floor and
be a waiting target. Wow. Like

3046
03:17:57,870 --> 03:18:03,240
that just shocked me. But yeah,
yeah. This. It was covered. It

3047
03:18:03,240 --> 03:18:05,490
would mean to be I mean, to be
honest with you, I believe it

3048
03:18:05,490 --> 03:18:09,150
was, well, whether it was used
as cover.

3049
03:18:09,420 --> 03:18:12,240
Yeah, right. Right. The
interview when I'm saying the

3050
03:18:12,240 --> 03:18:17,370
interview with Tom Oh, totally.
Yeah, let's reclaim the

3051
03:18:17,370 --> 03:18:20,970
narrative here. We don't want to
talk about Yo, get through this

3052
03:18:20,970 --> 03:18:23,370
24 hour news cycle right quick
and then we can get better

3053
03:18:23,370 --> 03:18:28,680
business. Um, well, we know
captured the footage that you

3054
03:18:28,830 --> 03:18:34,290
alluded to, cuz we talked about
in our show 57. Let's get into

3055
03:18:34,290 --> 03:18:35,070
john Sullivan.

3056
03:18:36,240 --> 03:18:40,080
And Kelly and Bob James Sullivan
says he turned in tips about his

3057
03:18:40,080 --> 03:18:43,650
brother to the FBI here in Salt
Lake City. He says he believes

3058
03:18:43,650 --> 03:18:46,320
that his brother was not only
involved in the riot at the

3059
03:18:46,320 --> 03:18:52,350
Capitol, but somehow in charge.
Full disclosure, the FBI has

3060
03:18:52,350 --> 03:18:56,220
been in contact with me. JOHN
Sullivan posted to his Twitter

3061
03:18:56,250 --> 03:18:57,120
on Wednesday,

3062
03:18:57,180 --> 03:19:01,950
I got the call, as I said
against Dave that he was going

3063
03:19:01,950 --> 03:19:03,210
to be apprehended by the FBI.

3064
03:19:03,270 --> 03:19:06,750
John's brother James says he
first learned his brother was at

3065
03:19:06,750 --> 03:19:10,170
the US Capitol. When friends
started texting him these

3066
03:19:10,170 --> 03:19:15,990
pictures, then john posted the
video to you. Like, I'm just

3067
03:19:15,990 --> 03:19:16,230
trying

3068
03:19:16,230 --> 03:19:18,840
to record what he was going in
there to document it. But he

3069
03:19:18,840 --> 03:19:21,480
also was part of the entity for
groups. I

3070
03:19:21,870 --> 03:19:26,490
also, you know, want to want to
support the black community out

3071
03:19:26,490 --> 03:19:29,100
here too, in the best way that I
can. That's my belief. I believe

3072
03:19:29,160 --> 03:19:32,430
the Black Lives Matter. I mean,
I'm not here to assert myself

3073
03:19:32,430 --> 03:19:33,930
and my beliefs on

3074
03:19:33,990 --> 03:19:34,860
other people.

3075
03:19:36,060 --> 03:19:43,050
I just want to give people the
footage the video, the

3076
03:19:43,050 --> 03:19:45,810
FBI office in Salt Lake City
would not confirm they were

3077
03:19:45,810 --> 03:19:49,140
investigating Sullivan or any
utahns I want to

3078
03:19:49,140 --> 03:19:53,880
condemn absolutely condemned the
shameful violence that we saw on

3079
03:19:53,880 --> 03:19:55,410
January 6, US Capitol

3080
03:19:55,740 --> 03:19:58,410
when it's still love, john, but
again, that's something that he

3081
03:19:58,410 --> 03:19:58,950
needs to know

3082
03:20:01,530 --> 03:20:05,310
The criminal complaint against
john includes violent entry.

3083
03:20:05,430 --> 03:20:09,480
john was also charged by Provo
police officers back in July of

3084
03:20:09,480 --> 03:20:14,430
2020. For criminal mischief and
rioting in Salt Lake City, Aaron

3085
03:20:14,430 --> 03:20:15,630
Cox, Fox 13 News.

3086
03:20:17,970 --> 03:20:22,800
Now he's talking about dividing
families. Yeah. James, his

3087
03:20:22,800 --> 03:20:27,390
brother ratted him out ratted
him out now, both of you, you

3088
03:20:27,390 --> 03:20:30,210
want to hear something very
interesting course, their

3089
03:20:30,210 --> 03:20:36,900
father, adoptive father, Major
General Kevin J. Sullivan, of

3090
03:20:36,900 --> 03:20:40,710
the United States Air Force was
caught in a shady deal

3091
03:20:40,710 --> 03:20:44,010
transferring nuclear fuse fuses
via Taiwan.

3092
03:20:49,380 --> 03:20:56,640
Back in 2008. And now you're too
black or biracial son adopted

3093
03:20:56,640 --> 03:21:01,290
sons are in the middle of the
insurgency or the storming the

3094
03:21:01,290 --> 03:21:05,490
Capitol. That's not, of course,
not connected.

3095
03:21:05,970 --> 03:21:09,180
How did you find that? You only
clips on that, or do you just

3096
03:21:09,180 --> 03:21:09,600
not have

3097
03:21:10,350 --> 03:21:15,450
it? No, it was the article.
There was no clips. It was a big

3098
03:21:15,450 --> 03:21:21,420
news story. I mean, if you look
it up, set, it was 17. It was 17

3099
03:21:21,480 --> 03:21:24,810
officers that were involved. And
they were caught with

3100
03:21:24,930 --> 03:21:31,470
transferring nuclear fuses. Oh,

3101
03:21:33,000 --> 03:21:38,220
well, that's that's almost as
good as, as the Boston bombers,

3102
03:21:38,550 --> 03:21:42,090
you know, and their uncle is a
CIA agent.

3103
03:21:44,460 --> 03:21:46,920
What's the chances? And then,
you know, come on, what's the

3104
03:21:46,920 --> 03:21:50,610
chances? But that goes to show
you that this is brother against

3105
03:21:50,610 --> 03:21:55,020
brother. Now is it designed to
be that way? I don't know. But

3106
03:21:55,050 --> 03:22:00,180
it's just the coincidence of
your dad getting caught

3107
03:22:00,180 --> 03:22:05,700
transfuse on transferring
nuclear fuses to Taiwan? In a

3108
03:22:05,700 --> 03:22:09,930
big scandal, and then your two
sons get caught up in this on

3109
03:22:09,930 --> 03:22:13,860
both sides of it, because one is
super conservative. And one is

3110
03:22:13,860 --> 03:22:20,760
super Black Lives Matter.
liberal. Crazy What's going on?

3111
03:22:20,790 --> 03:22:23,130
What's going on in that house?
And then how are you forgot?

3112
03:22:23,160 --> 03:22:28,170
Remember john john was a Olympic
skater. Can we cover that? NPD?

3113
03:22:28,710 --> 03:22:30,960
That's right. I forgot about
that. Yeah.

3114
03:22:31,410 --> 03:22:35,010
Which had an over commercial,
which I'll be also showing on

3115
03:22:35,010 --> 03:22:39,780
the live. He just so happens to
have Uber commercial too. When

3116
03:22:39,780 --> 03:22:45,480
I'm not driving for over Are you
kidding me? see somebody parking

3117
03:22:45,480 --> 03:22:51,750
me. That's beautiful. So I'm
just to go to show you how the

3118
03:22:51,750 --> 03:22:55,950
local news does coverage or lack
of coverage. There was the claim

3119
03:22:55,950 --> 03:23:00,570
made that NTV was in the capital
Yes, that day, proven through

3120
03:23:00,570 --> 03:23:04,860
the john Sullivan. situation.
But listen how no local news

3121
03:23:04,860 --> 03:23:08,880
covers. The question of
verifying was an Tifa. behind.

3122
03:23:09,390 --> 03:23:11,970
There are a lot of claims that
the people who broke into the

3123
03:23:11,970 --> 03:23:14,760
Capitol on Wednesday weren't
Trump supporters, but were

3124
03:23:14,760 --> 03:23:18,000
actually an Tifa. Members. Us
representative mo Brooks says

3125
03:23:18,000 --> 03:23:21,000
the evidence is growing that
antifa quote, orchestrated

3126
03:23:21,000 --> 03:23:25,560
capital attack with clever mob
control tactics. So let's break

3127
03:23:25,560 --> 03:23:28,800
this claim down. Starting with
these images. This anti fog

3128
03:23:28,800 --> 03:23:32,490
comrades flyer is being shared a
ton. With claims it tells an

3129
03:23:32,490 --> 03:23:35,400
Tifa members to disguise
themselves as Trump supporters,

3130
03:23:35,430 --> 03:23:38,520
but a reverse image search shows
that this image is more than two

3131
03:23:38,520 --> 03:23:41,520
months old. It was originally
shared on articles like this on

3132
03:23:41,520 --> 03:23:45,600
Election Day, November 3, and as
you can see, the image has the

3133
03:23:45,600 --> 03:23:49,800
date November 4, clearly in the
text, we're marking this false.

3134
03:23:50,070 --> 03:23:52,920
Then there's this claim a man in
the hallway of the Capitol with

3135
03:23:52,920 --> 03:23:56,340
a tattoo on his hand, which
these posts say is the communist

3136
03:23:56,340 --> 03:23:59,550
hammer and sickle. But a higher
resolution image from Getty

3137
03:23:59,550 --> 03:24:02,850
photos shows it's clearly not
the hammer and sickle. It's

3138
03:24:02,850 --> 03:24:06,630
actually a logo from a video
game. This claim is false. Then

3139
03:24:06,630 --> 03:24:09,870
there are tons of claims about
this shirtless man wearing a

3140
03:24:09,900 --> 03:24:13,890
horned hat. This is not a Trump
supporter. This is a staged anti

3141
03:24:13,890 --> 03:24:17,430
fur attack. Well we tracked him
down This is Jake and jelly.

3142
03:24:17,460 --> 03:24:21,030
He's easy to find online as an
outspoken q anon supporter. In

3143
03:24:21,030 --> 03:24:22,350
fact, President Trump

3144
03:24:22,710 --> 03:24:23,970
there you president

3145
03:24:25,590 --> 03:24:28,950
he's posting photos of Johnny
and has been photographed

3146
03:24:28,950 --> 03:24:32,700
protesting against groups like
Black Lives Matter and antiva in

3147
03:24:32,700 --> 03:24:36,630
the past Wednesday night, he
actually posted that quote, I am

3148
03:24:36,630 --> 03:24:40,860
not an Tifa or BLM I'm a que
anon and digital soldier so

3149
03:24:40,860 --> 03:24:44,580
claims this man is an anti
factor in disguise are false.

3150
03:24:44,730 --> 03:24:47,520
Now there are more examples of
people falsely being labeled

3151
03:24:47,520 --> 03:24:49,320
anti fur and false messages.

3152
03:24:51,840 --> 03:24:56,280
That was that's a great that's a
great ISO. I got to get that

3153
03:25:00,000 --> 03:25:05,550
left the local news stymieing
the you know the claim the anti

3154
03:25:05,580 --> 03:25:10,680
was in there which clearly James
makes give me john works with

3155
03:25:10,680 --> 03:25:12,600
Black Lives Matter and he
actually got kicked out of black

3156
03:25:12,600 --> 03:25:16,410
lives matter for doing being too
radical. Oh, and then on the

3157
03:25:16,440 --> 03:25:19,890
other side James worked closely
with the proud boys. What what's

3158
03:25:19,890 --> 03:25:22,170
going right Seriously? What is
going on?

3159
03:25:23,160 --> 03:25:25,560
That's pretty extreme and one
family

3160
03:25:26,100 --> 03:25:31,080
wish wish and I have an article
here from no queue report. It

3161
03:25:31,080 --> 03:25:37,620
says that they will they This is
have been on opposite sides of

3162
03:25:37,620 --> 03:25:41,340
ideological spectrum since
George Floyd video released last

3163
03:25:41,340 --> 03:25:43,560
spring. So that was the that was
the trigger word that

3164
03:25:43,560 --> 03:25:46,920
was the trigger when the when
the when they split into one and

3165
03:25:46,920 --> 03:25:47,400
zero.

3166
03:25:47,970 --> 03:25:56,580
Yeah. So well, I have john
Sullivan on Anderson Cooper, but

3167
03:25:56,610 --> 03:26:00,480
you're not going to hear her
speak. But I believe he was with

3168
03:26:00,480 --> 03:26:04,290
her his handler What's her name?
Jade.

3169
03:26:04,920 --> 03:26:08,160
had her name he Jaden x
something

3170
03:26:08,369 --> 03:26:12,599
No, no, that's it. That was his
name. Her name was Jade. Hold

3171
03:26:12,599 --> 03:26:16,229
let me find it. Don't know. But
yeah, of course you don't cuz

3172
03:26:16,229 --> 03:26:19,379
nobody. She didn't speak the
whole time. So she was just

3173
03:26:19,379 --> 03:26:24,239
there handling Mr. Cooper, J.
Sacher, who is a CNN photo

3174
03:26:24,239 --> 03:26:26,729
journalist that never did
anything for seeing in her life.

3175
03:26:27,059 --> 03:26:30,119
But that's how she was saw.
That's all she was sold to the

3176
03:26:30,149 --> 03:26:34,739
to the masses. But this is john
Sullivan. And she's sitting six

3177
03:26:34,739 --> 03:26:37,679
inches from his face. While he
speaks to people

3178
03:26:37,680 --> 03:26:40,530
who were there. JOHN is now a
documentary filmmaker Jane

3179
03:26:40,530 --> 03:26:44,700
sacker and left wing activist
john Sullivan. JOHN you filmed

3180
03:26:44,700 --> 03:26:48,030
this moment on your phone just
can't describe what happened.

3181
03:26:48,360 --> 03:26:53,550
Yeah, so basically all the
protesters kind of storm to get

3182
03:26:53,550 --> 03:26:57,540
into the chamber we tried to get
into like the main entrance

3183
03:26:57,660 --> 03:27:00,930
right when you walk down the
hallway, but that being said,

3184
03:27:00,930 --> 03:27:03,030
Nobody was able to get it
because there's two guards

3185
03:27:03,090 --> 03:27:07,620
refusing to move people there
we're not really wanting to hurt

3186
03:27:08,340 --> 03:27:13,170
the police. So like they went
down a different alleyway they

3187
03:27:13,170 --> 03:27:15,780
went to like the left of the
main entrance of the chambers

3188
03:27:15,780 --> 03:27:18,840
and then took a ride down the
hallway that then entered into

3189
03:27:18,840 --> 03:27:23,790
that glass windows that you see
there to their left by like four

3190
03:27:23,790 --> 03:27:28,740
or five police officers right at
the forefront. And I remember

3191
03:27:28,770 --> 03:27:31,410
just looking up and seeing one
of them like crying saying they

3192
03:27:31,410 --> 03:27:33,090
want to go home to their kids.

3193
03:27:33,660 --> 03:27:37,800
So how was how was this lady
shot? I mean, she was in go

3194
03:27:37,800 --> 03:27:41,640
trying to get through the door.
And it was it. Do you did you

3195
03:27:41,640 --> 03:27:42,570
see who shot her?

3196
03:27:43,770 --> 03:27:47,730
Yeah. So I was getting to that
part. So immediately after they

3197
03:27:47,730 --> 03:27:50,130
started breaking through the
glass, once they broke through

3198
03:27:50,130 --> 03:27:53,160
the glass, they're using like
flagpoles and whatever they had

3199
03:27:53,550 --> 03:27:57,360
to kind of fast through the
windows. The on the right hand

3200
03:27:57,360 --> 03:28:00,660
side, this lady was able to like
make her way all the way through

3201
03:28:00,660 --> 03:28:06,240
the window. all we see is these
guns come out of the doorways

3202
03:28:06,270 --> 03:28:09,480
just guns guys, all you can see
is their hand and that's it you

3203
03:28:09,480 --> 03:28:13,650
can see faces. And right when I
saw that I was yelling to people

3204
03:28:13,650 --> 03:28:15,570
I was like, Guys, there's guns,
there's guns. You don't want to

3205
03:28:15,570 --> 03:28:18,570
go through there like that.
They're like everybody shoot,

3206
03:28:18,810 --> 03:28:22,410
like not just like hold it there
and run away. Everybody gonna

3207
03:28:22,440 --> 03:28:23,340
shoot to kill,

3208
03:28:23,850 --> 03:28:25,440
huh?

3209
03:28:25,710 --> 03:28:32,460
guns. And I got a wonderful clip
that was in Audible, but it has

3210
03:28:32,460 --> 03:28:35,940
the subtitles to wit him and
Jade. So there is a

3211
03:28:36,480 --> 03:28:39,930
grant. So this guy, they made
such a big deal about him with

3212
03:28:39,930 --> 03:28:43,470
his footage. But really, he was
just there to propagate more

3213
03:28:43,470 --> 03:28:44,280
messaging.

3214
03:28:45,390 --> 03:28:50,400
Yes. But then I had to take him
down. No, well, for whatever

3215
03:28:50,400 --> 03:28:56,310
reason. It was. Yeah, but j
soccer. I can't find anything on

3216
03:28:56,310 --> 03:28:59,790
her her was that her website,
um, that she's done some

3217
03:28:59,850 --> 03:29:03,180
interesting photo journalism.
But like I said, I have the

3218
03:29:03,180 --> 03:29:08,430
footage of her and him in the in
the, in the Capitol. He's I told

3219
03:29:08,430 --> 03:29:10,800
you, I could get you in there.
And like, he's not like he liked

3220
03:29:10,800 --> 03:29:13,620
her. He was I told you, I get
you here. And she's like, Oh,

3221
03:29:13,620 --> 03:29:16,230
this is awesome. JOHN asked me
and she was like, he was like, I

3222
03:29:16,230 --> 03:29:19,230
love you. And she's like, What
do you say? He's like nothing.

3223
03:29:19,740 --> 03:29:23,430
He was saying like he was
clearly he was clearly enamored

3224
03:29:23,430 --> 03:29:26,610
with her and like to see what
the honeypot and she let him in

3225
03:29:26,610 --> 03:29:30,030
there. She got the footage that
she wanted and he was left

3226
03:29:30,030 --> 03:29:35,160
swinging in the wind. That's how
I see it. Yeah, yes. This is why

3227
03:29:35,160 --> 03:29:38,640
the internet these newsletters
are so valuable, because it's

3228
03:29:38,640 --> 03:29:42,330
certain things that we can't
show here that I can show there

3229
03:29:42,330 --> 03:29:46,110
that I found when I go down the
rabbit hole. That is you know,

3230
03:29:46,110 --> 03:29:50,220
it was interesting. Like you can
really hear it very well. Not we

3231
03:29:50,220 --> 03:29:52,710
could we could work my way
through it. But no, I think it's

3232
03:29:52,710 --> 03:29:54,540
very more powerful if you
actually watch the

3233
03:29:54,539 --> 03:29:59,219
point time. What time do the
lives drop? Eight o'clock

3234
03:29:59,220 --> 03:30:02,490
Wednesday. Eastern eastern
standard time

3235
03:30:02,550 --> 03:30:06,510
and and the show same time
Wednesday town

3236
03:30:06,510 --> 03:30:09,360
okay yep so Wednesday eight
o'clock come to mo facts on

3237
03:30:09,360 --> 03:30:11,850
YouTube and you'll find
something something going on

3238
03:30:11,850 --> 03:30:16,590
over there either a new show or
the laugh I lost eight and

3239
03:30:16,590 --> 03:30:20,730
we premiered on on the YouTube
and then we we get it up on the

3240
03:30:20,730 --> 03:30:22,080
podcast after that

3241
03:30:22,620 --> 03:30:25,740
yeah right after the premiere is
over we'll drop it to the caucus

3242
03:30:25,740 --> 03:30:30,180
apps so that way people can get
on our routine with us as far as

3243
03:30:30,660 --> 03:30:33,870
um and it helps the reason why
would I know you're like why are

3244
03:30:33,870 --> 03:30:36,690
we going to YouTube if we're
trying to go away from it as

3245
03:30:36,690 --> 03:30:40,470
like one man TV say we're trying
to grow big so we can come away

3246
03:30:40,470 --> 03:30:47,370
from YouTube right in fact we're
doing a honey pot

3247
03:30:50,130 --> 03:30:51,660
here's mo he's the honey

3248
03:30:54,120 --> 03:30:58,110
Alright, so that's what we
that's we we have to use the

3249
03:30:58,110 --> 03:31:01,470
algorithms against them. Once
that engagement happens it's

3250
03:31:01,470 --> 03:31:06,960
going to send the message to be
fun and you know also likes

3251
03:31:06,990 --> 03:31:09,660
shares and comments because that
triggers the algorithm as well

3252
03:31:09,810 --> 03:31:15,450
like I said we just need to know
what what what a game we're

3253
03:31:15,450 --> 03:31:19,020
playing here yeah we can you
know we can beat him and then

3254
03:31:19,020 --> 03:31:25,350
we'll just take a look podcast
2.0 Thanks so I know this is

3255
03:31:25,350 --> 03:31:29,460
kind of a heavy show. And I
don't these last two clips I

3256
03:31:29,460 --> 03:31:32,280
don't know where to put this. I
don't know if this is government

3257
03:31:32,280 --> 03:31:36,030
control. I don't know if this is
natural. I don't know if this is

3258
03:31:36,450 --> 03:31:43,050
a performance art. But this is a
command a Ghazi from the blend

3259
03:31:43,050 --> 03:31:48,360
of black hammers. And this is
East he Sue's message to anti

3260
03:31:48,360 --> 03:31:49,170
fur one.

3261
03:31:49,740 --> 03:31:55,200
Oh and Tifa is me kasi the
commander in chief of black hair

3262
03:31:55,200 --> 03:32:04,230
organization land back I heard
you had some not so nice things

3263
03:32:04,230 --> 03:32:10,680
to say about me. I heard you had
some nice things to say about my

3264
03:32:10,680 --> 03:32:20,910
hammers. Not so nice things to
do. So one of my members one of

3265
03:32:20,910 --> 03:32:27,210
my dear dear members an African
Filipino mother talks and

3266
03:32:27,210 --> 03:32:30,090
thought she could get away with
it thought we're gonna back down

3267
03:32:33,960 --> 03:32:38,160
that's not gonna happen. messed
with the wrong one this time?

3268
03:32:38,340 --> 03:32:46,290
Yes. Oh, yes, you did. Oh, yes,
you can because we don't take it

3269
03:32:46,290 --> 03:32:53,400
lightly. When harm is done, to
our African colonized women,

3270
03:32:54,240 --> 03:33:05,910
that's why black hammer we say
touch one. Touch one. Touch 1141

3271
03:33:07,650 --> 03:33:12,840
you test one of us. So now
you've taught all of us and

3272
03:33:12,840 --> 03:33:14,940
we're gonna have to do something
about it.

3273
03:33:22,710 --> 03:33:27,450
Okay, is this is this the same
color? Is this the same black

3274
03:33:27,450 --> 03:33:30,330
hammer? Who was saying stand
with us? We're against the

3275
03:33:30,330 --> 03:33:34,500
vaccines were behind Nicki Minaj
or am I confused?

3276
03:33:34,679 --> 03:33:36,689
Ah ha that's the same one

3277
03:33:37,169 --> 03:33:40,769
holy crap man she's acting there
I don't know who she is but

3278
03:33:40,769 --> 03:33:42,809
that's the he that's uh he

3279
03:33:43,259 --> 03:33:46,979
yes you got to do what you got
to do it we got some look we are

3280
03:33:46,979 --> 03:33:52,079
live in town live go to you to
type in Ethan's like I said the

3281
03:33:52,079 --> 03:33:55,499
same thing is in the in the
title. Okay, hold

3282
03:33:55,500 --> 03:34:04,620
on a sec. He sews message he
Sue's message to an Tifa just so

3283
03:34:04,620 --> 03:34:07,110
I can see it right and that's
what this is all about. Okay,

3284
03:34:07,110 --> 03:34:08,070
hold on a second let me

3285
03:34:08,700 --> 03:34:10,110
you got to have a visual of this

3286
03:34:10,710 --> 03:34:11,340
okay

3287
03:34:15,180 --> 03:34:22,020
Alright, here we go. Is it plan
Come on Oh, hold on a second.

3288
03:34:22,110 --> 03:34:24,120
For some reason it's not coming
through.

3289
03:34:25,860 --> 03:34:27,060
Headphones Here we go.

3290
03:34:32,700 --> 03:34:34,320
Yeah, it's got the hammer No,

3291
03:34:34,320 --> 03:34:36,390
you see I just want you to see I
want you to see him.

3292
03:34:36,420 --> 03:34:39,210
Yeah. Why would the white face
though the white maybe?

3293
03:34:40,230 --> 03:34:44,310
Yes. And the Joker what's going
on here but now I want I'm gonna

3294
03:34:44,310 --> 03:34:46,320
play the second clip. I want you
to get a visual.

3295
03:34:46,350 --> 03:34:49,230
Yeah, I got my visual. It's
scary. Mo

3296
03:34:51,150 --> 03:34:54,270
southie I don't know if this is
real. I don't know if this is

3297
03:34:54,270 --> 03:34:58,410
like a splinter sale. Like you
know, they couldn't. Well,

3298
03:34:58,440 --> 03:35:01,020
really, man. I don't I don't
know. where to put this but

3299
03:35:04,890 --> 03:35:07,620
for all I know this is a white
guy playing the black guy with

3300
03:35:07,620 --> 03:35:08,460
white face

3301
03:35:09,690 --> 03:35:14,790
I mean where his his pictures in
the white face okay that is

3302
03:35:14,790 --> 03:35:17,640
appropriation if we if we want
to if we want to be to the

3303
03:35:17,640 --> 03:35:21,630
letter of the law Yeah, he is
appropriating whiteness with it

3304
03:35:21,630 --> 03:35:26,010
with the face I mean if we want
to be to the letter of the law

3305
03:35:26,010 --> 03:35:29,520
of oneness This is even more
fascinating

3306
03:35:29,550 --> 03:35:33,690
okay hold on hold on a second
hold on a second I'm looking at

3307
03:35:33,690 --> 03:35:38,190
their website you love this
don't you? I'm looking at their

3308
03:35:38,190 --> 03:35:43,440
website okay donate and you
always got to click the donate

3309
03:35:43,440 --> 03:35:46,140
button to see where the
donations going and so we got to

3310
03:35:46,140 --> 03:35:48,000
follow the money people let's
see

3311
03:35:49,770 --> 03:35:51,630
the live curry cash check folks.

3312
03:35:51,630 --> 03:35:57,450
No, I'm impressed. I'm
impressed. They've got Bitcoin

3313
03:35:58,350 --> 03:36:07,170
Bitcoin donations. Okay, that's
not bad. Let's see what that's

3314
03:36:07,170 --> 03:36:11,070
got to see where it's going to
ah, it'll it'll take me too long

3315
03:36:11,070 --> 03:36:13,560
because I got to fill in some
information. This I will have

3316
03:36:13,800 --> 03:36:16,920
Okay, I say this. Can you give
it to me so I can relate to

3317
03:36:16,920 --> 03:36:22,620
people? Oh, yeah. On on. On the
last day. Oh, heck yeah. I mean,

3318
03:36:22,950 --> 03:36:25,980
this is gonna be fun. This is
gonna be fun. Cuz now I get to

3319
03:36:25,980 --> 03:36:29,880
stop you and you get to go do
your thing. Then we get to feed

3320
03:36:29,880 --> 03:36:30,750
it back to the people.

3321
03:36:31,650 --> 03:36:34,860
This This group is something
else Mo.

3322
03:36:35,520 --> 03:36:38,160
You want to hear more? Yeah.
Okay,

3323
03:36:38,160 --> 03:36:39,330
let's play let's play the next
year

3324
03:36:40,140 --> 03:36:45,930
to talk about me. You want to
call me anti semitic. You wanted

3325
03:36:45,930 --> 03:36:51,150
to call me an anti vaxxer cuz
we're against vaccines. You

3326
03:36:51,150 --> 03:36:58,770
wanted to call me all kinds of
horrific things. When I don't

3327
03:36:58,770 --> 03:37:03,540
really give a damn. And none of
us give a damn well, where you

3328
03:37:03,540 --> 03:37:10,500
went wrong was when you docked
one of my members an amazing

3329
03:37:11,010 --> 03:37:16,950
African Filipino mother and you
made her so worried about her

3330
03:37:16,950 --> 03:37:22,620
own safety that she had to pay
for more expensive security

3331
03:37:22,620 --> 03:37:25,740
system that she could barely
afford it because you know that

3332
03:37:25,740 --> 03:37:31,800
the reality of us poor and
working class people we don't

3333
03:37:31,800 --> 03:37:36,690
have money to spend and
especially not with COVID taking

3334
03:37:36,690 --> 03:37:44,220
all of our jobs away. So we told
you you need to pay up. We told

3335
03:37:44,220 --> 03:37:53,430
you you need to give reparations
to our comrades that you mirror

3336
03:37:53,940 --> 03:37:58,140
all those nasty things you want
to say about me and say about my

3337
03:37:58,140 --> 03:37:58,800
pattern

3338
03:38:06,840 --> 03:38:08,940
you want to call out for
movement but we're not gonna let

3339
03:38:08,940 --> 03:38:14,970
it happen not this time. Mayo
boys and girls in your suburban

3340
03:38:14,970 --> 03:38:18,690
world What a joke but our
hashtag done so you can cut

3341
03:38:18,690 --> 03:38:23,400
outside of your video game and
break down some businesses while

3342
03:38:23,400 --> 03:38:26,280
you've been messing up because
you've been destroying black and

3343
03:38:26,280 --> 03:38:27,360
brown businesses

3344
03:38:29,250 --> 03:38:33,690
is this the same group that was
going to you know get some land

3345
03:38:33,690 --> 03:38:39,510
in Colorado and this is
performance art and this is this

3346
03:38:39,510 --> 03:38:44,910
has got to be the largest troll
in the world or perhaps a very

3347
03:38:44,910 --> 03:38:48,480
sophisticated op that is
unfolding slowly

3348
03:38:48,960 --> 03:38:51,960
I don't know that's why I said I
don't know where to put this

3349
03:38:51,990 --> 03:38:57,750
because Are you burning an Tifa
Are you willing to go out to any

3350
03:38:57,750 --> 03:39:01,050
vaccine like that and up and up
and not

3351
03:39:01,860 --> 03:39:06,690
look at this sellout AOC
dropping jaws and dropping bombs

3352
03:39:07,140 --> 03:39:10,110
they got they've got a they've
got a real organization here

3353
03:39:10,110 --> 03:39:14,970
with people this this website is
is maintained you know something

3354
03:39:14,970 --> 03:39:18,570
that's not bad. This is a good
cheese.

3355
03:39:18,840 --> 03:39:23,910
Fascinating. Like I said, I
don't I had to lean. You're not

3356
03:39:23,910 --> 03:39:27,990
going to bring up those hot
button issues. But it's like

3357
03:39:27,990 --> 03:39:30,810
what what do you do with them?
Like what what's going on? I

3358
03:39:30,810 --> 03:39:34,200
don't know. I said, I found it
fascinating. I thought that

3359
03:39:34,200 --> 03:39:39,360
would give me a good way to end
the show. We're in I know when

3360
03:39:39,360 --> 03:39:43,380
people say we're in a simulation
by red light waves going on

3361
03:39:43,380 --> 03:39:43,710
here.

3362
03:39:44,490 --> 03:39:47,370
Well this is put together by
some script kiddies. But they

3363
03:39:47,370 --> 03:39:52,110
have they have the
organizational manual, which is

3364
03:39:52,110 --> 03:39:58,650
pretty detailed. And you know
how to organize Okay, this is

3365
03:39:58,680 --> 03:40:01,980
there's something sophisticated.
going on here, huh? There's

3366
03:40:01,980 --> 03:40:04,860
something very sophisticated
here. And they've been doing

3367
03:40:04,860 --> 03:40:08,790
this this isn't they're not
brand new. No, they're not brand

3368
03:40:08,790 --> 03:40:19,290
new. Oh my god. Well, Mo thank
you once again for all that.

3369
03:40:20,490 --> 03:40:25,590
Appreciate it. Man. That's a
wrap on binary thinking.

3370
03:40:25,950 --> 03:40:29,040
Everybody has had their two
shots. If you listen to the show

3371
03:40:29,040 --> 03:40:34,020
so far, have your you know the
vaccine to heal you know people

3372
03:40:34,020 --> 03:40:35,580
who are listening, be empathetic
listening.

3373
03:40:35,610 --> 03:40:39,180
And don't worry, don't worry if
your immunity wanes we've got a

3374
03:40:39,180 --> 03:40:43,770
booster with live next Wednesday
and another show like a booster

3375
03:40:43,770 --> 03:40:45,960
after that and a booster every
week if you want.

3376
03:40:46,080 --> 03:40:48,030
Yeah, we got boost every two
weeks.

3377
03:40:49,140 --> 03:40:52,050
Mo Thank you. Thank you. Thank
you so much for doing such a

3378
03:40:52,050 --> 03:40:56,040
great job man. This This was I
always learn something. And

3379
03:40:56,040 --> 03:40:59,580
sometimes it's just like, Wow,
my mouth, my jaw drops open. And

3380
03:40:59,580 --> 03:41:02,430
this was one of those moments.
It was great job really cool.

3381
03:41:03,180 --> 03:41:07,500
I appreciate Adam. And as I
always say, pay attention to

3382
03:41:07,500 --> 03:41:09,930
everything and the truth reveal
itself.

3383
03:41:09,990 --> 03:41:14,310
Remember to support our small
facts calm mo I will talk to you

3384
03:41:15,390 --> 03:41:16,110
within the week.

3385
03:41:16,890 --> 03:41:18,450
Yeah, I'll see you later. I'll

3386
03:41:18,630 --> 03:41:20,310
see y'all next week. Everybody
Bye.

3387
03:41:34,110 --> 03:42:10,740
Walk into your gut, his
Sherman's stamp. And can you

3388
03:42:25,080 --> 03:42:26,460
just wait.

3389
03:42:41,310 --> 03:42:46,830
Just that's mentioned. When you
feel good.

3390
03:43:08,760 --> 03:43:12,390
Just saying you

3391
03:43:18,960 --> 03:43:36,990
can make me and you

