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Moe Factz with Adam Curry for 
ebruary 23 2021. This is 

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pisode number 59. It's been a 
hile we had a little bit of a 

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limate challenge down south. 
'm Adam Curry in Austin, Texas 

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nd my friend on the other end 
omewhere in Northern Virginia 

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adies and gentlemen, Mr. Mo 
acts

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I'm in the groove man.

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Mo Yeah. Can you hear me? Yeah,
I can hear you. You said you

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were in the group. So I was

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like, What did I do? Did I scare
him off? Yeah, I was like, oh,

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song don't disrupt this group.

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Thank you. No, I was just
bumping and bopping along. Oh,

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yeah, I can do this. I do a mo.
I'm doing well. You all thought

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out? Yeah, we've got electricity
restored. That was out for a

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couple days. And oh, man, that
was right. That's kind of

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happened. Right? Those days when
you're supposed to record a

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couple days before actually. And
then, you know, everyone's pipes

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were blowing up. And so ours
didn't Luckily, but we did have

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to boil water for a couple of
days. And that made grocery

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shopping tough because you can't
have any produce and no

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restaurants are open. But we're,
we're Texans. And now it's you

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know, 70 degrees. Everything's
fine. As if nothing happened is

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the weirdest thing. Yeah, merge
and sharpen. Everyone's back to

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normal. Oh, well, that was that.
And I felt kind of bad cuz the

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last show was teasing you about
your 31 degrees.

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Well, yes, you did. You damned
us. Mo you you put you put a

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curse on us. But you experienced
experiencing ice again. So

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that was a it was interesting to
be in.

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To be in the crisis zone for
real for once. But everything's

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good. Everyone's safe. Everybody
we know is safe. Yeah. Everyone

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helped each other out. Well, all
good. One little thing I did

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notice about your experience in
Texas. Yeah, they didn't have a

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catchy name for it. Or I didn't
hear one. Did they have that

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word? Ah, that's a good
question. No, I think just the

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pole. Yeah, I mean, the polar
vortex was the overall kind of

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thing that was discussed. But
down here, I think it was just

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like this situation.

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That's probably what we call
that this situation. Cuz

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normally the climate things they
always want to brand new me.

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Yeah, there was. There was no
brand before was there. No,

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that's interesting. Again, it
was right there. I mean,

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now that didn't grab it. I don't
know what happened. I think was

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too shocking, really wasn't
planned somehow. For his counter

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narrative. Yeah. Well, there you
go. Yeah. Enough, enough

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narratives floating around about
that event for sure everyone's

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joining in on it.

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And of course, black and brown
communities suffered much harder

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than anybody else. They always
do. And

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disproportionate. Yes. just
bringing the latest news. How

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you doing? Well, everything good
up there are over them and

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everything. Everything's great.
We was under Lera I saw stuff

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but nothing in comparison to
what you experienced. I'm

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slipping and sliding around
everywhere. It was strange

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because it wasn't that much
ground covering but everywhere

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was just like a sheet of ice.
Right? So you, you couldn't

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scrape it or you couldn't shovel
it now your kids back in school

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yet? Are they? Oh, man, is that
ever gonna happen? Is anyone is

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there a light at the end of the
tunnel? Well, from this

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experience, I'll say two things
and then we can get into the to

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the bag. But I want to say two
things about this experience of

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working from home and schooling
from home. I think it took away

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the angst for me personally, I
think for a lot of people that

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this may be the new normal

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for work, I know this is highly
likely. And if that's the case,

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then homeschooling becomes a
real option. Right? Because you

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see the quality education your
kids are getting if i can i can

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top that better. Yeah, so I'm
not sure man man me and Mrs.

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Facts are wearing options. We're
gonna discuss discuss it over

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the summer, but I don't think
they're gonna go back. I don't

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think they're gonna go back this
year. That's just crazy man.

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That is just crazy.

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unfathomable nightmare. I don't
have any kids anymore. So I was

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like, it doesn't. Nothing has
changed that much for us in that

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regard. But I can just imagine
what a change. Well luckily like

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my wife works. When she part
time or when she's available to

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and then me working from home.
We are one of the blessed

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families. I know a lot of people

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are having to deal with having
to physically be at work and

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what are you doing with your
kids? So, it is a sucky

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situation but luckily I'm in a
blessed situation. All right.

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Okay, so we're all caught up,
Adam. oh no what what's going on

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in our in our personal lives?
Why don't we? Let's see what you

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got going on for us. I'm
excited. It's been way too long

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where it stops. Nobody knows.
Only mo knows. This is the weird

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of topics. The topic for Episode
59 of mo factors Adam Curry is

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you could have your own
thoughts, bro.

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Okay, so we're gonna pick up
Tinder is one of the few times

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that we pick up where we left
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We spoke about the African
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Cairo

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aka known as the district,
Columbia DC and the African

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American Museum they built
there. Did you go down some

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massive rabbit hole mo is that
what happened? Is

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we going deeper today. Oh, we're
going Whoa, we're going super

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deep. Get that extra duty extra
heavy duty 10. Full already?

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Yep. all wrapped on. I'm good to
go. Yeah. So I guess we'll like

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I said, we'll pick up where we
left off. This is a throwback

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clip from

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the last show, and this is
tokenism and whiteness. When the

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National Museum of African
American History in DC first

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opened its doors to the public,
President Obama was there to

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commemorate it.

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Perhaps they can help a white
visitor understand the pain and

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anger

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of demonstrators in places like
Ferguson. But it can also help

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let visitors appreciate the fact
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not only is this younger
generation carrying on

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traditions of the past, but

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within the white communities.
Across the nation, we see the

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sincerity of law enforcement
officers and officials. Imagine

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a democrat saying that today. He
or she would be thrown out of

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the party for that level of
nuance. Well, now instead of

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being a symbol of progress and
reconciliation, the museum has

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embraced the radical left
language of racial retribution,

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all to cast America as
irredeemably racist and an evil

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country. And you the American
taxpayer are funding it. Isn't

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that neat? Yeah, racial
retribution. Well, yeah, we're

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gonna we're gonna pick up on
that in a second. But this came

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out maybe around December, from
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American Studies, what we're
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the Smithsonian put out this
piece called whiteness. Right?

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Talking about race. Yeah, hold
exam. This was this was the

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precursor

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to the things that you're seeing
now. I don't know if you're up

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to speed on Walker cola or not?
Yes. And all the corporate

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training? Well, I don't know how
to describe this world Coca Cola

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yet. But yeah,

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for sure. So it's always amazing
how these things Tom out there.

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Can I ask you that? Is that is
that a big thing in on black

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Twitter, welcome cola.

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And let me put it this way. So
this is so Tina keeps seeing

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this pop up on her Twitter,
which her timeline is going to

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be different from both of ours?

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in you know, so the Coca Cola is
just being excoriated everywhere

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it can be done. So is that is
that a thing? Or how is that

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viewed? Well, my timeline is a
little different when one

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because I'm not as active on
Twitter as I used to be. I used

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it really, really just for
promotion and things of that

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nature. But I also have a right
leaning a black right leaning

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Twitter feed. So it came through
in a different way. Okay, not as

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it came in is excoriating on
this piece. But I guess the

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source material was, I guess,
I'm saying is there some head

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shaking going on? always, like,
all this pandering? What's what

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we're gonna we're gonna get into
this document, what is pushing?

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That's why I had to lay out the
last show who's in charge

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and where the narratives are
coming from. And I truly believe

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this National Museum of African
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History and Culture is a
propaganda you know, hub. Oh,

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yeah. You pushing things out
like this. And like I said, this

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came out in December. And how
can I say this? I know people

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close in corporate America and
right after that. You had the

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top five of the Fortune 500
companies. Yeah, all of them are

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doing this. All because you
don't want to be the guy not

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doing it. So Right. Right.
Right. You

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Bringing the the white

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for Julie lady.

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I forget her name that wasn't
some of this coursework

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available on LinkedIn. The
educational LinkedIn website was

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it was

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gone it was

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it was taken down so that lets
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well received. So right before
before we jump into that and

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what we're going to talk about
the the parent document to what

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we've seen is gonna we're gonna
we're gonna get way deep into

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that. But I wanted to pick up on
a couple of things that you

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picked right up on it the ratio
retribution, and this is where

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the right always loses. They had
a great opportunity, Trump's

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doubled the black vote and the
brown vote, turnout from what

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they're normally getting. Yeah.
And instead of riding that

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progress, they come with
terminology because if you look

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at the word retribution,

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it is punishment inflicted on
someone as vengeance, yes. Or a

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wrong or criminal act kind of
the opposite of atonement. Well,

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Mr. Curry, I'm glad you brought
that up. Because I did I didn't

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clip it. But we will be talking
about this later. But our our

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atonement

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only got one leg. Yeah. And
where do we find that in the

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wild? Who was saying that? That
was that the HR 40 hearings?

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Right. Herschel Walker? Yes.
Yes. dropped it. He said

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reparations and atonement. He
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Notes, man. He was like, wait a
minute homeless. Show Notes.

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Rev. Mo facts over here. Oh,
yes. atonement. That's a word

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I'm looking for. Yeah, that was
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touch on that one for one
second. The words matter. We

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always say that reparations are
non starter cuz it when you say

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that word, then people hear
retribution. Yeah. So where

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atonement is the offending party
wants to make good performance?

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performing at not being forced

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forced to do it. Yeah. So I just
want to point that out. And

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even though in this clip from
Fox with Ingram on the anger

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angle, she puts out good
information. When you say words

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like that. It falls on deaf
ears. And that just goes back to

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what you were saying. How was it
received? Right? People roll

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their eyes when they hear
everything that follows that

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they just gloss over and it was
that was that editorializing by

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Frau Ingraham or was she reading
a direct quote?

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Gosh, that was she was editorial
editorial. He was okay. Okay.

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Okay. Well, then she, when
people hear reparations from the

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right, they hear retribution. I
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it's a shame on her. There's no
reason to do that. Yeah, it's

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not but it's the party line.
Yeah, I don't like it. Well,

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they have to evolve, evolve,
evolve.

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And they have a golden
opportunity to evolve.

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Yes, exactly. And then and so
we're gonna get into part two of

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this, that that was the one of
the clips that recovering the

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last show, but I split it up
into two parts. So we're gonna

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get into part B of that same
throwback clip. Now, the museum

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now has a website dedicated to
explaining the concept of

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whiteness, and why it's the root
cause of racism and oppression

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in America today. According to
the website, the normalization

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of white racial identity
throughout America's history has

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created a culture where non
white persons are seen as

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inferior, or abnormal. And when
they say whiteness, they don't

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just mean skin color, but also
people who value things like

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individualism, a stable nuclear
family, the scientific method,

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rational, linear thinking, hard
work, Christianity, and being

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polite. Of course, these are all
values that most Americans,

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especially African Americans see
as necessary for success and

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happiness. So why in the heck is
the African American History

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Museum telling them otherwise?

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Push your property propaganda
that's

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looking at their website again,
and I'm like, Oh, yeah, now I

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remember. Oh, yeah. Cuz

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DeAngelo D'Angelo, I believe
she's a doctor. Um, she's up

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there. They got bill hooks. I
mean, they went, Whoa. So you

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see the court, the corporate it
must have $100 million they got

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from these from the donors, the
founding donors. Uh huh. It's

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Oprah Winfrey Charitable
Foundation. 20 million or above,

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you know, of course, Bill and
Melinda Gates and but if you

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look at the American Express,
Boeing, Ford, GE,

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Fox, Bank of America, Disney
GlaxoSmithKline, Johnson and

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Johnson Nike. Just it's

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It's like a who's who? Oh my
gosh, is anybody you can imagine

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every bank are the top 500
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companies plus easily, easily.
This is a bonanza. Wow. And I

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wonder if this is part of that
time magazine article, but we

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weren't doing we're not gonna go
down. That's a whole separate

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rabbit hole. But I think it
plays into that. But what I want

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to talk about today is the
museum's attack on as Ingram

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laid out, Ingraham laid it out a
scientific method slash rational

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linear thinking, individualism,
hard work, Christianity slash

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being polite, and stable,
nuclear family, all of these

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targets. Right? All of these are
targets. And I don't understand

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how getting rid of these things
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quote unquote, black people, I
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that works. We need to have
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method that way. I mean, as when
we talked about the suspected

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issues with the election, we
laid out the numerical facts.

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Yeah, that's how you prove
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take numbers and

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we're gonna, I'm gonna go down
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with a scientific method and
rational linear thinking. So

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what we're gonna do is going to
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where they're coming from about,
there's some issues with how

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numbers are interpreted. And we,
you know, it's interesting

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I've tried to explain, and I
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just set this up.

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When you hear math is racist, I
usually say look, moe and I

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talked about this. That's
because it goes back to the

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super predators, when they had
all these millions of kids be

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running around killing everybody
chopping their heads off. And it

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turned out that was just the
bullcrap. Like, climate change,

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I'm sorry, climate change, or
even the, you know, two and a

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half million people gonna die
and Coronavirus, and therefore,

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because what they said can be
disproven with mathematical

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truth. Math has to be racist.
Did I get it right like that?

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That's exactly what their claim
is. But we're gonna look at how

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this true but it's also
dangerous when you throw

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statements out there, like math
is racist. So let's go ahead and

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jump into a clip for a super,
super predator scare.

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A jogger murdered in New York
Central Park, a little girl

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gunned down in her family's car
in Los Angeles, a judge has

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sentenced two boys for killing
another child who refused to

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steal candy for them. There's a
tidal wave of juvenile violent

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crime right over the horizon.
And sons who study it say the

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worst is yet to come. Life in
the 1990s was dominated by a

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sense that youth violence was
out of control. The future

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looked bleak. To explain why one
word said it all super

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predators. Some social
scientists and criminologists

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looked at the data and saw Doom,
they stepped out of their ivory

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towers and into the public
arena, to sound the alarm about

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a coming wave of kids who are
going to ravage the country

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to kill your town.

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Beautiful. So they got it wrong.
But the problem is that people

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from the ivory towers are the
same people this writing this a

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propaganda that's coming out of
the Smithsonian. So it's like we

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got it wrong, but trust us,
we'll get it right this time. So

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that was a just a precursor.
That was her own show, though

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back show me on show 41. And
what I found some more evidence

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that possibly that math could be
even more racist than we thought

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that we even previously thought,
Okay, all right. Let's just go

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ahead and hop into algorithmic
bias explained, algorithms are

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everywhere. From powering our
internet search results to

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taking out the guesswork in our
online shopping experience. They

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are everywhere we use and trust
them each and every day to make

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countless decisions for us.
Despite this seemingly neutral

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mathematical nature. algorithms,
however, aren't necessarily any

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more objective than humans,
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they have written by people and
this is where the phenomenon of

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algorithmic bias comes into
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when Nikon cameras equipped with
the blink detection feature, I

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wouldn't snap photos of many of
its Asian users, because the

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software thought their eyes
would never opened, or how

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Amazon's Alexa struggles to
recognize different accents. And

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when Google Translate
insistently associated certain

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jobs with certain genders, while
translating sentences with

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gender neutral pronouns from
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In 2015, Google's photo
recognition tool mistakenly

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tagged a photo of two black
people as gorillas. Meanwhile,

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in the US, a crime predicting
algorithm wrongly labeled black

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people were offenders at nearly
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You see the pattern here,
algorithm bias is rooted in the

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way AI, artificial intelligence
algorithms work by using what's

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called machine learning and deep
learning, which are both ways in

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which computers make decisions.
Both are simply dependent on

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data, a huge amount of it, and
ultimately, the people who feed

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the data.

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Yeah, I know a lot about this,
actually. And that's why I'm

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glad you are taking this ride
with me. So it's not that math

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is racist, or addition,
subtraction, and calculus and

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differential equations, those
are not racist. No, it's the

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it's the notions that the people
who feed and interpret the data,

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and the companies they work for
are putting out racist products

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if you want to, if you want to,
if you want to make that leap,

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and that's

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good. But that's really what's
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the conversation is because the
algorithm and the computer can

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only represent that which was
put in by the creators. And,

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you know, it's like, if you had
the exact right amount, that's

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why they talk about equity all
the time. But if you had the

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proportionally to the,

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to the population, the exact
right amount of programmers or

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people who would input this
information, you still get a

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whole bunch of bias because
people are biased. You know,

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it's never it's never gonna be
right. Never ever, it's not even

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that it's the end user. They
never take the end user in mind

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as well.

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They don't care about the end
user. Type. It's just a black

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blackout the picture for a
minute and to speak about the

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Chinese. Yeah, the camera went
take a picture because of the

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blink detection. thought. I
mean, cuz they have a naturally

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closed eye. Where was the
outrage over that? I wish I had

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known that one. That's funny.
Yeah. When they give their

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product to Asian test market and
get that feedback back, or did

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they just take it with it? Yeah.
So so we have to hold it do as

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they list it. Amazon, Google.

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Google's call them black people
apes? I mean, like, Well, I

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mean, but to be fair, yeah,
algorithms, gorillas, gorillas,

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excuse me.

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Algorithms aren't just bias
based upon,

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you know, external features,
what someone looks like, there's

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algorithms being applied to
people's credit ratings and

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insurance policies. And it's,
and it can be based on many

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factors that can be wrong. So
the algorithms just remove the

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human factor, and it's just
going to suck for a lot of

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people it always does. And this
is true, what what I'm saying is

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these companies that are
offending, turn around and

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support this museum in their
efforts, but their products are

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the problem and the way they do
their data analysis and data

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feeding. That's the problem,
right? No, it's math. No, math

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is racist.

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Man, yes, not us. It's the math.
Yes.

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It's so sick. It's so sick. Oh,
I get sicker because now we're

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gonna go over to Mr. Haney, for
read. He is a Dartmouth

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professor, excuse me, professor.
And what he's going to talk

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about is this criminal justice
algorithm. Now, there you go,

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you have almost all been subject
to a computerized predictive

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algorithm of the following form.
If you like x, you may like why

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now you may be less aware that
you've also may have been

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subjected to a predictive
algorithm of the form. If you

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are like x, we may not give you
a loan.

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Banks financial institutions
routinely use your personal

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attributes,

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compares them to previous
customers to assess the risk to

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the institution, in terms of
giving you a loan or mortgage.

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You may have also recently been
subjected to a predictive

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algorithm of the form. If you
are like x, we may not give you

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a job.

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Employers, and in some cases,
university admissions are using

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predictive algorithms to make
hiring and admission decisions.

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And if you've recently had a run
in with the criminal justice

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system, while I'm sorry, first
of all, and second of all, you

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may have been subjected to a
predictive algorithm of the

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following form. If you're like
x, then you may go to jail.

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Courts now are routinely using
predictive algorithms to make

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decisions in the courtroom. One
particularly popular and now

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widespread algorithm is used at
the point of a

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Rashed to make bail decisions.

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Yeah. It's not that the
algorithms are wrong. It's all

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racists get rid of bail.

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Yeah, exactly. So

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as we think over here at the
Adam Curry show, yeah. Is this a

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case of galleon dialectic that
way you create the problem?

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Yeah. And you provide the
solution to the problem, right?

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So it's like, so you say, how do
we get rid of math? All right,

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let's make our algorithms
racist. And then we can push him

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say, You know what? It's not
about mathematics and what you

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can prove and facts. It's about
what you feel, is what feels

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good. It's not what feels good.
Yeah. And these companies get

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even richer off of manipulating
the algorithms. But yeah, I

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mean, so basically, it's a
closed, closed loop, you just

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amplify, you can do all kinds of
cool stuff with that. That's

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really good. That's a great way
to do it. Yeah. So

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that's just amazing that judges
are not calculating and looking

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at your record Are you know,
lawyers are not looking at your

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records say, Well, he's a repeat
offender. They stole your your,

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your record into the Yeah,
whatever it says and out not

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he's a repeat offender. And be
clear. I'll let's be clear, as

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we always say, what is what
starts here?

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Yeah, no?

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Yeah. You think this is not
gonna be used? Oh, it already

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is? Oh, I think it already is mo
Oh, definitely.

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And, and you know what? The same
stuff is being used in health

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care, my friend. Yeah, you have
these symptoms? Could you?

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Here's the medication you need.

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Huh? Yeah, no, or even even Oh,
you bought high salt food you

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bought high sugar food
insurance? Raise your premiums?

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My premiums keep going up? Yeah.
We saw this with with the car

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insurance situation where they
had the standard thing that you

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would plug into your I think
it's called an OEM

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onboard and oh OBD you're
plugging in and ride around for

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a week or two. And they will
take your data and they will

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give you a lower insurance rate.
Yep. Progressive has that now

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you can see a little dongle I
think or even not even that. I

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think it just, I think they just
as long as you have it on in

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your car with your smartphone,
your smartphone is passing back

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the data. They can almost know
everything. Oh, yeah, that's

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fantastic. companies give you a

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discount mo if you download the
app and give you know of your

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roadside assistance. If you need
it, we can find you. GPS but

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they're tracking this is why
this is what Credit Karma is all

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about. This is the most
egregious Credit Karma talk

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about my credit me You always
disagree with Credit Karma, we

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can have this discussion,
because this is the perfect

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episode have it go ahead. And
I'll explain to you why I like

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Credit Karma, Credit Karma is is
managing its users initially to

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help them get better credit
scores, then to help them get a

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loan based upon their score a
larger line of credit, and now

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they've moved towards, if you
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video that made your credit

445
00:28:40,830 --> 00:28:45,210
score go down, that's coming.
And so I'm against all this. So

446
00:28:45,210 --> 00:28:49,200
I'm gonna explain to you why
credit score is not it's not

447
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:53,730
even a real credit score. Well,
no, it is not, but it correlates

448
00:28:53,730 --> 00:28:56,820
to your you know, the official
credit score that you know,

449
00:28:57,030 --> 00:29:02,220
lenders not really but that's
debatable debate if that one

450
00:29:02,220 --> 00:29:06,150
goes up typically the one that
they bank, it and I reason why I

451
00:29:06,150 --> 00:29:10,050
say I like it, is I understand
the game, they're collecting my

452
00:29:10,050 --> 00:29:13,440
data in there, you know, I want
to get that. But beforehand,

453
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:19,260
before these apps came along,
people were credit illiterate. I

454
00:29:19,260 --> 00:29:22,500
mean, you knew that you paid
your bills and you know, and you

455
00:29:22,500 --> 00:29:25,380
know that kind of thing, but
knowing how to manipulate your

456
00:29:25,380 --> 00:29:29,040
credit score. Now was gamified I
mean,

457
00:29:30,900 --> 00:29:35,100
you if you know how to play this
system with that bad boy. You

458
00:29:35,100 --> 00:29:38,040
can get your credit score to
boom and I say this

459
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:43,950
so called black man I'm gonna
get there. What do you need?

460
00:29:43,950 --> 00:29:47,550
What do you need the credit
score for you what Moe? What do

461
00:29:47,550 --> 00:29:50,730
you need your credit score for
when I when I bought a home and

462
00:29:50,730 --> 00:29:56,880
when I go to buy a car. I'm just
knowing this. I mean, like I

463
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,970
said, What is explained and I
don't want to make it long.

464
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,750
thing out of this. But what it
did was it explains all the

465
00:30:03,750 --> 00:30:07,830
components of a credit score,
which this is how racism used to

466
00:30:07,830 --> 00:30:11,640
work, a lot of this knowledge
would be hid behind walls and

467
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:15,510
doors. And this is why racism
has changed in the information

468
00:30:15,510 --> 00:30:18,870
age. It's not that it's not that
I'm accepting of Credit Karma,

469
00:30:18,870 --> 00:30:24,240
the company per se, but the many
people be educated about how to

470
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:27,900
affect your credit in a positive
way. This is all new to us.

471
00:30:29,340 --> 00:30:33,930
When I got my working class, I
got the problem I have is that

472
00:30:33,930 --> 00:30:36,960
with most of these systems,
you're giving them access to

473
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:40,470
your bank account, and they can
see all your transactions. And

474
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:42,000
that's just evil shit.

475
00:30:43,020 --> 00:30:47,550
But I'm in the School of they
already see it. I mean, so I

476
00:30:47,550 --> 00:30:51,840
mean, I guess, and I think this
is where our age difference

477
00:30:52,470 --> 00:30:59,340
plays into. Yes, I was. I was
20. I was 21 and 2001.

478
00:31:00,690 --> 00:31:01,650
So

479
00:31:03,150 --> 00:31:07,380
I'm just used to being I'm used
to being surveilled. So I mean,

480
00:31:07,380 --> 00:31:09,780
it's nice. Just, I'm sorry to
hear that.

481
00:31:11,220 --> 00:31:13,560
Well, I mean, it's the that's
the reality of it. So when you

482
00:31:13,590 --> 00:31:16,320
come in from from that angle,
where they surveilling me

483
00:31:16,380 --> 00:31:21,030
anyway, there's nothing private
anyway. Um, I just thought, I'll

484
00:31:21,030 --> 00:31:24,630
take the benefits of it. And I
and I understand that the

485
00:31:24,630 --> 00:31:26,250
gamified, I got it all,

486
00:31:27,330 --> 00:31:31,080
you're probably, you know, you
are a stronger individual than

487
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:35,040
most. There's a lot of tricks
being played in this toll, not

488
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:37,980
just Credit Karma, specifically.
But these types of apps, there's

489
00:31:38,010 --> 00:31:42,780
multiple kinds. And they are in,
in essence, trying to get people

490
00:31:42,780 --> 00:31:47,340
into deeper debt, and get them
to buy things based upon what

491
00:31:47,340 --> 00:31:51,840
the algo thinks they will want.
That's all I know, it's funny. I

492
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:52,050
just

493
00:31:53,100 --> 00:31:55,440
think a lot of people don't know
that. I think most people

494
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:58,560
probably don't know that. And
it's funny that you say that.

495
00:32:00,180 --> 00:32:04,620
Because me class, aka coach was
having this same exact

496
00:32:04,650 --> 00:32:08,640
conversation. I'm not a person
that wants to protect people

497
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:12,690
from things. I only want to
educate people of all the

498
00:32:12,690 --> 00:32:17,070
ramifications, and then let
people freely choose, of course,

499
00:32:17,100 --> 00:32:21,120
how I you know, because we can't
we can't put up safeguards like,

500
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:24,000
No, no, no, you can't do that.
No, you can't do this. But this

501
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:27,660
is what we do with this show. I
mean, we don't tell you what the

502
00:32:27,660 --> 00:32:33,630
thing which is explaining the
what the manipulation is that if

503
00:32:33,630 --> 00:32:35,430
you want to continue to
participate in it, it's your

504
00:32:35,430 --> 00:32:39,210
choice. But understand what
you're getting to. So I'll bring

505
00:32:39,210 --> 00:32:42,480
that back around. But yeah, I
mean, with good comms bad,

506
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:47,340
right? algorithms and all these
things. This is all new to us.

507
00:32:47,340 --> 00:32:50,340
And that's why I said like,
being black in the information

508
00:32:50,370 --> 00:32:55,200
age, it was totally different
for being black in the 1960s and

509
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:59,190
70s, and even a pre internet,
because there was no way you

510
00:32:59,190 --> 00:33:04,560
could get a main blonde to China
to get your products made. And I

511
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:06,780
know people like well, why are
you buying from China? But it's

512
00:33:06,780 --> 00:33:09,270
like, well, if the whole
industry supply from China,

513
00:33:09,270 --> 00:33:12,090
right. And I'm trying to be a
small business person.

514
00:33:13,140 --> 00:33:16,170
This is the first time we had
that kind of access, and got it.

515
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,080
Do you know, so I'm just
explaining to you. I mean, just

516
00:33:19,140 --> 00:33:21,960
mean, we got what we do here we
humanize? And we don't know

517
00:33:23,130 --> 00:33:28,740
that we humanize these functions
that we know we use and

518
00:33:30,540 --> 00:33:33,810
that it's it's a gift and a
curse. So you have to be

519
00:33:33,870 --> 00:33:38,250
educated. And I think people
want not be educated. And that's

520
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:39,840
the way it works.

521
00:33:41,100 --> 00:33:43,020
Can we agree on that? For sure?

522
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,560
Well, that's what we're talking
about here that what they're

523
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:49,650
trying to destroy education.
This is the role. This is the

524
00:33:49,650 --> 00:33:55,290
role of this document. And let's
get back into the criminal

525
00:33:55,290 --> 00:33:58,980
justice algorithm. One
particularly popular and now

526
00:33:58,980 --> 00:34:03,450
widespread algorithm is used at
the point of arrest, to make

527
00:34:03,450 --> 00:34:06,030
bail decisions. And
conceptually, it's a pretty

528
00:34:06,030 --> 00:34:06,870
simple idea.

529
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:12,360
a defendant who has been charged
with a crime is information is

530
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,750
extracted from them and is fed
into a computer algorithm. And

531
00:34:15,750 --> 00:34:20,040
that computer algorithm outputs
a risk factor. And that risk

532
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:23,730
factor is meant to quantify the
likelihood that that person will

533
00:34:23,730 --> 00:34:27,450
commit a crime in the future.
Think of a really simple version

534
00:34:27,450 --> 00:34:28,590
of the Minority Report.

535
00:34:29,700 --> 00:34:34,620
Without the creepy people in the
pools, and if you are assessed

536
00:34:34,620 --> 00:34:37,830
to be high risk, well, then the
judge may deny bail and you will

537
00:34:37,830 --> 00:34:41,160
be held in prison awaiting
trial. And if you are assessed

538
00:34:41,340 --> 00:34:46,800
to be low risk, then you may be
released, pending trial. Now, in

539
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:51,270
2016, investigative journalists
from Pro publica published a

540
00:34:51,270 --> 00:34:54,540
troubling report on one
particularly popular and

541
00:34:54,540 --> 00:34:57,750
widespread predictive algorithm
that is used in the courts

542
00:34:57,750 --> 00:34:58,710
around this country.

543
00:34:59,730 --> 00:34:59,970
And when

544
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,420
They found is that this
particular algorithm was

545
00:35:03,420 --> 00:35:08,130
significantly disadvantageous to
black defendants. What they

546
00:35:08,130 --> 00:35:12,360
found is that if you were a
black defendant, you are nearly

547
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:17,370
twice as likely to be predicted
as reoffending when you did not.

548
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:21,930
That happened 44% of the time,
if you are black, and only 23%

549
00:35:21,930 --> 00:35:24,720
of the time, if you are white,
that is a staggering difference.

550
00:35:24,780 --> 00:35:28,380
And at the same time, you were
almost twice as likely to be

551
00:35:28,380 --> 00:35:31,920
predicted as not offending, when
in fact, you did if you are

552
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:35,940
white, as compared to black that
happened 47% of the time, versus

553
00:35:35,940 --> 00:35:39,990
28% of time. So in other words,
the album is biased to black

554
00:35:39,990 --> 00:35:41,580
defendants against black
defendants.

555
00:35:44,130 --> 00:35:44,370
So

556
00:35:47,190 --> 00:35:51,960
what I find interesting about
this, the algo was biased

557
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:56,490
against black defendants. But
this this particular algorithm,

558
00:35:56,580 --> 00:36:01,500
does it take skin color into the
equation? I think it's the

559
00:36:01,500 --> 00:36:05,940
bubble. Unless you fill out a
Scantron it's like, white black,

560
00:36:05,940 --> 00:36:09,660
or you know, Hmm, I think
that's, of course, I mean, I

561
00:36:09,660 --> 00:36:12,540
don't think they they're looking
at your data, right?

562
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,080
I'm just gonna read here could
it could it could have been

563
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,990
well, there's a particular type,
I'm just just playing devil's

564
00:36:18,990 --> 00:36:21,240
advocate for a second because
this has always bothered me

565
00:36:21,240 --> 00:36:23,580
about the story, because it
always comes right after like we

566
00:36:23,580 --> 00:36:25,410
did. Okay, so

567
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:31,500
the algorithm saw black people
as gorillas, and then it was

568
00:36:31,500 --> 00:36:35,700
biased against black people they
sent him the the the block come

569
00:36:35,700 --> 00:36:40,950
up more often than given bail.
And so that would imply that in

570
00:36:40,950 --> 00:36:47,970
the algorithm, some set of
factors plus black is no go.

571
00:36:48,900 --> 00:36:53,790
Yes, that would have to be
programmed there. On purpose.

572
00:36:54,930 --> 00:36:58,830
Exactly. Because that is that is
not just a gorilla mistake, you

573
00:36:58,830 --> 00:37:01,620
know that I can see how a
computer that doesn't have

574
00:37:01,620 --> 00:37:05,280
enough information can can maybe
not make that distinction

575
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:10,080
initially. This has to be if
it's any search set of

576
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:13,950
circumstances same to people
except one is filled up black on

577
00:37:13,950 --> 00:37:16,890
the bubble, and then they go to
jail, then then that's on

578
00:37:16,890 --> 00:37:21,840
purpose that can see it no other
way. And Nast's that's my point.

579
00:37:23,010 --> 00:37:25,080
Yeah, we have to look into these
Come

580
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:30,270
on. Yeah. And they should really
be a class action lawsuit.

581
00:37:30,630 --> 00:37:34,560
Because when you say a given
grant and people bail, say if

582
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:38,760
you got like, I'm trying to
maybe like a DWI. Right, which I

583
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:42,000
that's something that you should
be able to come home for pretty

584
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:47,370
quick. But if you're not wi x is
not in Texas. Yeah. I was like

585
00:37:47,370 --> 00:37:50,340
48 hours. I mean, but yeah, they
say they give you an ordinate

586
00:37:50,340 --> 00:37:54,720
and you're saying Lord in
orderly large bail, and you miss

587
00:37:54,720 --> 00:37:57,960
work, you miss work, you lose
your job, you lose your job.

588
00:37:58,740 --> 00:38:02,850
These things devastate people
lives. Yeah. And it's just some

589
00:38:03,150 --> 00:38:07,590
body coding like, Oh, yeah, um,
it's the accuracy. Right? Right.

590
00:38:07,590 --> 00:38:11,730
Right. It's like, Oh, we were
you know, 97% accurate with our

591
00:38:11,730 --> 00:38:17,160
decisions, but you're gonna
screw some somebody over by, you

592
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:20,400
know, basically offer not skin
color. And I'm glad you brought

593
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:23,250
that up. This is about corporate
designation. This is about

594
00:38:23,250 --> 00:38:24,510
racial designation.

595
00:38:25,590 --> 00:38:28,200
So this is why we always talk
about white and black and what

596
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:31,200
it really is, and we've expound
on it a bunch. And we may get

597
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:34,650
into that a little later. But
yeah, this is just another

598
00:38:35,970 --> 00:38:39,750
line in the code that says if a
marked black

599
00:38:40,890 --> 00:38:44,100
Yeah, that needs to be disclosed
higher bill that really needs to

600
00:38:44,100 --> 00:38:48,150
be sliced as that I recall these
stories, wasn't there. Wasn't

601
00:38:48,150 --> 00:38:50,970
that code eventually brought up
and didn't people look at it? Or

602
00:38:50,970 --> 00:38:53,340
is that still not happened? They
looked at it and then they

603
00:38:53,340 --> 00:38:55,980
probably made a donation and it
goes away, right? I mean,

604
00:38:55,980 --> 00:38:58,350
where's all the Searles da is
it? Yeah.

605
00:38:59,430 --> 00:38:59,850
Yeah.

606
00:39:05,970 --> 00:39:09,510
Yeah. This is why they're
supposedly supposed to be

607
00:39:09,510 --> 00:39:11,190
elected to fight the

608
00:39:14,550 --> 00:39:18,420
Exactly. This is actually
systemic. This is for real.

609
00:39:19,110 --> 00:39:25,050
Yeah. By definition. Yes. The
system is written or coded. To

610
00:39:25,050 --> 00:39:27,270
say if you're black a you get a
higher bill.

611
00:39:28,470 --> 00:39:28,950
Just

612
00:39:30,300 --> 00:39:34,830
just finally hit me it's like,
computer didn't scan the person

613
00:39:34,830 --> 00:39:38,160
standing there. No, it's not.
There's no, there's no data

614
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:41,280
there that's gonna make that
person more gorilla. Like, it's

615
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:43,350
just it probably doesn't say
black or just as African

616
00:39:43,350 --> 00:39:48,240
American. Right. Sure. Yeah,
that needs to be investigated.

617
00:39:48,240 --> 00:39:50,820
That's, that's really messed up.
There's no other way than on

618
00:39:50,820 --> 00:39:54,270
purpose. So I understand where
they're coming up with their

619
00:39:54,270 --> 00:39:58,680
issue with rational linear
thinking and the scientific

620
00:39:58,680 --> 00:39:59,970
method and math.

621
00:40:00,900 --> 00:40:04,620
In general, right this is, what
didn't they jumped the shark.

622
00:40:04,860 --> 00:40:07,980
And we have to go back to show
14 because we were on top of

623
00:40:07,980 --> 00:40:11,520
this all time ago. And this is
math is racist.

624
00:40:14,219 --> 00:40:18,269
The opposite of Donald Trump is
an Asian man who likes math.

625
00:40:20,940 --> 00:40:23,880
Andrew Yang may want to rethink
that catchphrase, because

626
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:28,770
apparently, math is racist.
Seattle's public schools are

627
00:40:28,770 --> 00:40:33,120
considering a proposal that
would mix social justice in with

628
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:37,950
math, including studying how
math has been appropriated by

629
00:40:37,950 --> 00:40:43,860
Western culture, and that math
itself is racist. And Alessia

630
00:40:43,860 --> 00:40:47,310
Parson is a sociologist and
educator, who agrees with the

631
00:40:47,310 --> 00:40:51,900
premise of the proposal, and
joins me now. Alright, so and

632
00:40:51,930 --> 00:40:56,310
let me let me just see where I'm
confused. So you understand

633
00:40:56,310 --> 00:40:59,130
what's going on? I am bad at
math.

634
00:41:00,150 --> 00:41:06,120
And if math is racist, then I'm
also white. Does that make me

635
00:41:06,660 --> 00:41:12,060
too dumb to be racist? Or not?

636
00:41:13,110 --> 00:41:16,170
racist enough to be good at
math?

637
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:21,870
not racist enough. Jesse. That's
such a long conversation. First

638
00:41:21,870 --> 00:41:27,000
of all, remember Dr. De Blasio,
Parson? Yes. So please don't

639
00:41:27,030 --> 00:41:29,160
refer to me by an but I
appreciate it.

640
00:41:33,060 --> 00:41:36,270
Excuse me, let me just show you
my badge here for a moment.

641
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:41,760
That's a doctor and to you Mr.
Jesse waters.

642
00:41:43,770 --> 00:41:46,440
And is that does that not raise
your privilege?

643
00:41:47,790 --> 00:41:52,020
Was she is not she's white? Not
talking about educational

644
00:41:52,020 --> 00:41:57,870
academic privilege. That's all
you will refer to me? As as Dr.

645
00:41:58,110 --> 00:42:02,190
Of course it does. It's anyone
who does that as a douche. But

646
00:42:02,190 --> 00:42:05,340
how do you not miss that it's
like you your your whole life

647
00:42:05,340 --> 00:42:08,850
work is based off of privilege.
And then you as soon as you know

648
00:42:08,850 --> 00:42:12,540
you somebody that call you by
your? Because your professional

649
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:17,010
moniker that he knows? Because
she's there. Call me doctor.

650
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:20,280
She's there for the cause? Don't
you understand most she's on the

651
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:25,260
battlefield against an actual
racist? No. And that's that's

652
00:42:25,260 --> 00:42:30,150
why you asked me before. I think
black people so called black

653
00:42:30,150 --> 00:42:34,080
people, quote unquote, black
people are so over these these

654
00:42:34,140 --> 00:42:39,630
these blue, these liberals?
Because they're pandering is so

655
00:42:39,630 --> 00:42:40,560
disgusting.

656
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:42,690
It makes the thing.

657
00:42:44,370 --> 00:42:48,900
My dad, he always told me
growing up, he was like writing

658
00:42:48,930 --> 00:42:53,400
reading, that's, you know, you
can get graded anyway on that. I

659
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:56,220
mean, there's some technical
aspects to grammar and

660
00:42:57,300 --> 00:43:01,950
no, English, you know, English
and writing. But math.

661
00:43:03,300 --> 00:43:07,710
That's the fair shit you can
get. Yeah, as a person of

662
00:43:07,860 --> 00:43:12,090
disadvantage. Because when you
give me that test, there are

663
00:43:12,090 --> 00:43:14,790
right answers to those
questions. Right? If I get the

664
00:43:14,790 --> 00:43:18,510
right answers, then I prove
myself knowledgeable, right?

665
00:43:18,540 --> 00:43:22,110
Where if I'm writing an essay,
you can grade it on how you

666
00:43:22,110 --> 00:43:24,840
feel, you know, it's all
subjective. So as long as you

667
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:26,550
show how you got the wrong
answer,

668
00:43:27,870 --> 00:43:29,850
right, and even if you show your
work,

669
00:43:31,050 --> 00:43:34,080
showing data, if you show your
work, you know, it can be it can

670
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:37,470
be racist, I know. It's
horrible, right? So that's what

671
00:43:37,500 --> 00:43:39,630
irks me about what I mean,
because we played this clip on

672
00:43:39,630 --> 00:43:44,250
show 14, so we were we were on
top of this way, way back.

673
00:43:45,030 --> 00:43:48,690
Because I understand. So if you
take math out of it, then we

674
00:43:48,690 --> 00:43:52,260
can't make the case of the
previous clips, to say, look at

675
00:43:52,260 --> 00:43:54,420
these results. You know,

676
00:43:55,530 --> 00:43:58,860
you see, you see how
destabilizing of society is when

677
00:43:58,860 --> 00:44:03,750
you take rational linear
thinking and mathematics out of

678
00:44:03,780 --> 00:44:06,810
the picture? Well, what that
what's crazy is that there's

679
00:44:06,810 --> 00:44:11,040
never a good explanation for it.
And everyone just goes, Okay,

680
00:44:11,070 --> 00:44:15,030
you're an idiot. And then they
keep saying it. Does there's no

681
00:44:15,030 --> 00:44:18,870
resolution ever of this issue?
Well, you make a good point. So

682
00:44:18,870 --> 00:44:22,950
let's go that doctor and try to
explain what she means. Tell me

683
00:44:22,950 --> 00:44:25,350
why math is racist. Doctor.

684
00:44:26,370 --> 00:44:32,940
Yes. So you It's funny. On
November 6 2016, I was at a

685
00:44:32,940 --> 00:44:36,810
conference on statistics. And I
raised my hand and I was like,

686
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:40,050
Are you telling me statistics
are racist?

687
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:46,110
And that was what, almost three
years ago and I was really

688
00:44:46,110 --> 00:44:49,170
confused when I asked the
question and spent years reading

689
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:50,670
about many different things.

690
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:55,470
Have you Jessie read native son,
which I gave you last time we

691
00:44:55,470 --> 00:44:55,770
met.

692
00:44:56,790 --> 00:44:59,970
I read it in high school, but I
have not read

693
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:03,390
Read it since the last time you
gave it to me. But what does

694
00:45:03,390 --> 00:45:06,300
that have to do with is math
racist?

695
00:45:07,410 --> 00:45:13,140
So the critical race theory and
is a framework for understanding

696
00:45:13,140 --> 00:45:16,110
the world that helps us
understand that this entire

697
00:45:16,110 --> 00:45:19,650
country is racist, right? We
have a white supremacist tasks

698
00:45:19,650 --> 00:45:21,990
right? racial caste system in
the United States.

699
00:45:23,430 --> 00:45:26,910
For once, right? Are you saying
that all white people in America

700
00:45:26,940 --> 00:45:27,870
are racist?

701
00:45:29,460 --> 00:45:34,260
Yeah, I am, too. Sometimes it
happens. We were socialized to

702
00:45:34,260 --> 00:45:37,710
practice the socialization and
learning about social norms. So

703
00:45:37,710 --> 00:45:39,900
you're, you're a racist.

704
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:44,370
Occasionally it happens. I
usually apologize it when I

705
00:45:44,370 --> 00:45:47,220
realized it, how are you a
racist? What do you think my

706
00:45:47,580 --> 00:45:48,420
superior?

707
00:45:50,490 --> 00:45:53,850
Jessie, that question doesn't
make sense. Well, isn't racism

708
00:45:53,850 --> 00:45:58,530
the belief that one race is
inherently superior than another

709
00:45:58,530 --> 00:46:01,740
race, and then you discriminate
against other races?

710
00:46:03,390 --> 00:46:06,810
That is a piece of racism. But
you give a definition. That's

711
00:46:06,810 --> 00:46:11,820
really old. Yeah. And language
evolves over time. And white

712
00:46:11,820 --> 00:46:16,020
supremacy? What are what raised
in white supremacy today? Yeah,

713
00:46:16,050 --> 00:46:20,250
okay. They are structures that
affect us all. So people do

714
00:46:20,250 --> 00:46:24,180
things that are racist all the
time, myself included, because

715
00:46:24,210 --> 00:46:26,370
we don't realize that's
happening. Like

716
00:46:26,370 --> 00:46:27,600
microaggressions. Okay.

717
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:33,060
Yeah, I love it. Just. That's
the old old definition of the

718
00:46:33,060 --> 00:46:36,660
word. Your old man, you got it
all wrong. It's not what the new

719
00:46:36,660 --> 00:46:37,530
kids think.

720
00:46:38,790 --> 00:46:42,300
So you see the conflation on top
of that conflation on top of the

721
00:46:42,300 --> 00:46:48,000
conflation? Yeah. Because you
say one, we have some algorithms

722
00:46:48,060 --> 00:46:51,570
and whey products are programmed
to

723
00:46:53,340 --> 00:46:57,600
do racist things. So you say
math is racist in general, all

724
00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:03,300
math. Two plus two is four, it
is racist. And then you say, the

725
00:47:03,300 --> 00:47:07,920
other conflation she does is
racism and micro aggressions.

726
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:08,340
Yeah.

727
00:47:10,380 --> 00:47:14,280
That's very, that's crazy to
say, Okay, if you make a

728
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:18,900
microaggression, that makes you
a racist, which, the reason why

729
00:47:18,900 --> 00:47:23,430
I make this point is, then
everybody become racist. And if

730
00:47:23,430 --> 00:47:26,520
that's the case, then no one
becomes racist. And they you

731
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:27,360
can't, you know,

732
00:47:29,130 --> 00:47:31,890
that's just racist thinking
right there. Mo you gotta stop.

733
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:33,480
You can't think like that.

734
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:38,010
I know, I did some math to get
to that point where you said

735
00:47:38,010 --> 00:47:39,090
racist formula.

736
00:47:40,860 --> 00:47:44,880
But that is, that's very
dangerous, because when real

737
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:49,080
racist acts happen? Yeah, then
people are all they'll just

738
00:47:49,110 --> 00:47:53,010
equate it to a microaggression.
And it's not that's not the

739
00:47:53,010 --> 00:47:55,830
case. But that's a very good
point. That's a very good point.

740
00:47:55,830 --> 00:47:59,040
And, and, and how much of that
is maybe even planned.

741
00:48:01,500 --> 00:48:04,050
so that it becomes completely
normalized. You know what I'm

742
00:48:04,050 --> 00:48:04,530
saying?

743
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:09,600
This goes back to the heady
galleon dialectic, and it's

744
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:13,830
like, you know, are you trying
to get rid of racism? Because

745
00:48:13,830 --> 00:48:16,290
you've you are you just make it
so benign?

746
00:48:17,910 --> 00:48:22,410
that it doesn't mean anything.
Yeah. Which I think I'm gonna

747
00:48:22,410 --> 00:48:25,530
say this. And I probably
shouldn't say this. I think

748
00:48:25,530 --> 00:48:29,670
there are some factions in this
country that want to get rid of

749
00:48:30,150 --> 00:48:33,060
a das foundation of black native
black people

750
00:48:34,830 --> 00:48:38,310
as a whole, because that's the
way you get rid of the great the

751
00:48:38,310 --> 00:48:42,000
great sin of America. And then
it's like, we can restart with

752
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:43,170
these new black people.

753
00:48:46,050 --> 00:48:50,580
That's how we can move forward.
Right. Hmm. And and they're,

754
00:48:50,940 --> 00:48:56,340
they don't have this same med.
Same stake in the game. No, I

755
00:48:56,340 --> 00:48:57,060
mean, that's just like,

756
00:48:58,410 --> 00:49:02,490
showing up for the goodies.
Well, not Not only that, but you

757
00:49:02,490 --> 00:49:06,390
don't realize that we're
missing. Because you see about

758
00:49:06,390 --> 00:49:07,740
everyday life, you'll see black.

759
00:49:09,030 --> 00:49:10,110
Right, right. Right, right.

760
00:49:11,670 --> 00:49:15,540
Because you say, you noticed
that this Aidan's population

761
00:49:15,540 --> 00:49:20,100
drops like to 5%. But you know,
he didn't we know that 13% is

762
00:49:20,100 --> 00:49:23,760
standard for this country for
black people. For the for the

763
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:29,010
horse race. Last week, I mean,
our last show, right? So if you

764
00:49:29,010 --> 00:49:34,260
drop the A das population down
to 5%, raise the immigrant and

765
00:49:34,260 --> 00:49:37,380
you know, I'm new, you know, the

766
00:49:38,610 --> 00:49:41,730
post racial black people. Let's
just say post post slavery,

767
00:49:41,730 --> 00:49:45,990
black people. Yeah. You bring
those in to up to 8% that makes

768
00:49:45,990 --> 00:49:51,990
you 13%. No, no, no, no one
notices. Wow. And then you heard

769
00:49:51,990 --> 00:49:55,470
what Joe Biden said. He doubled
down on that he captured that in

770
00:49:55,470 --> 00:49:58,410
this show, but I'll bring it up
again. This great solution is

771
00:49:58,410 --> 00:49:59,970
just enter interracial marriage.

772
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:03,030
Jeez, which I have no problem
with you love what you love, but

773
00:50:03,150 --> 00:50:06,240
that's your solution is to you
gotta water you gotta water that

774
00:50:06,240 --> 00:50:07,350
black girl some, you know,

775
00:50:09,179 --> 00:50:09,749
cut on it.

776
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:18,449
Wow. Yeah, I guess yeah, yeah,
that's how I heard it. I mean,

777
00:50:18,479 --> 00:50:23,519
come on everybody heard what he
said, and but it goes unnoticed

778
00:50:23,549 --> 00:50:26,579
or not unnoticed but it's just
not it's not about to be

779
00:50:26,579 --> 00:50:29,309
discussed I guess or something
in the mainstream. He said it

780
00:50:29,309 --> 00:50:33,149
again I know he I know we keep
doing on a town hall

781
00:50:34,590 --> 00:50:39,000
and no one no one says Hey, what
do you mean? What are you

782
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:40,020
talking about?

783
00:50:42,390 --> 00:50:45,150
And I just say I don't say this
from a racial standpoint, I say

784
00:50:45,150 --> 00:50:46,980
this from a completely vain

785
00:50:48,690 --> 00:50:52,950
standpoint that I want to make
people that look like me. Yeah,

786
00:50:53,610 --> 00:50:57,840
I told you being a parent is the
same thing you could do in life

787
00:50:58,170 --> 00:51:01,800
is, you know, hey, let me make
another me. And even if your

788
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:05,670
kids turn out to look like the
other half into genetics, right,

789
00:51:05,670 --> 00:51:08,340
you're a little bummed out.
Right? So it's not even about

790
00:51:08,340 --> 00:51:12,000
race. This is like, you know,
it's a it's a, it's a vanity

791
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:15,300
thing that you want to you know,
you want to recreate because you

792
00:51:15,300 --> 00:51:17,880
think you're so awesome. The
world needs another little mo

793
00:51:18,930 --> 00:51:20,580
two or three and God help us.

794
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:23,280
More Moe's gonna be

795
00:51:25,590 --> 00:51:30,750
a whole gaggle of podcasters
Yeah. So that's, that's

796
00:51:32,700 --> 00:51:36,720
it's very, very troubling. So

797
00:51:38,010 --> 00:51:41,880
she did this weird definition of
white supremacy. So now we have

798
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:45,360
to go back to the shows
definitely the the definition we

799
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:48,870
refer to on the show. Yep. And
that comes from Neely Fuller.

800
00:51:49,290 --> 00:51:53,730
And he defines racism and white
supremacy? Well, there's we're

801
00:51:53,730 --> 00:51:57,780
on a system of white supremacy.
That's the most powerful

802
00:51:58,170 --> 00:52:00,960
government that the world has
ever seen. And that's the title

803
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:04,410
of it. By the way, it doesn't go
by any other title, even though

804
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:08,280
we sometimes call it by other
titles. But the accurate title

805
00:52:08,460 --> 00:52:13,410
for the government that we are
under is in capital letters. The

806
00:52:13,410 --> 00:52:18,000
system of white supremacy
worldwide is just one world

807
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:22,020
government. And that's the only
government in town, the only

808
00:52:22,020 --> 00:52:26,280
government on the planet, that
grid accounts that is worthy of

809
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:27,990
having a title of government.

810
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:35,070
Yeah. So for all the non
believer, you can't say and this

811
00:52:35,070 --> 00:52:40,200
goes to my conspiracy theorist
slash truth. You can't say the

812
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:46,350
Illuminati or the globalist, or
these groups exist, and then say

813
00:52:46,350 --> 00:52:50,250
that white supremacy doesn't
exist. Because that's what we're

814
00:52:50,250 --> 00:52:54,510
saying. When we say that we're
saying they're synonymous. Yes,

815
00:52:54,510 --> 00:52:55,170
exactly.

816
00:52:56,190 --> 00:53:01,050
So when they make it about this,
I mean, this racial superiority

817
00:53:01,050 --> 00:53:05,490
and all of that, um, no, are
these micro aggression? No,

818
00:53:05,490 --> 00:53:12,090
we're talking about I call hard
system that imposes will, no

819
00:53:12,090 --> 00:53:15,960
matter what the people want, and
we're seeing that now. And no

820
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:19,590
matter what color those people
are, it does, it just starts

821
00:53:19,590 --> 00:53:20,070
with us.

822
00:53:22,260 --> 00:53:24,540
With a beta test, okay.

823
00:53:25,740 --> 00:53:29,190
How's that been working?
working? Okay.

824
00:53:31,620 --> 00:53:35,400
That's what it is. That's,
that's how we feel down. That's

825
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:37,770
how we feel with the vaccine and
everything else, or you just

826
00:53:37,770 --> 00:53:39,000
want to test it out on us.

827
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:45,810
But it doesn't make everybody
who end up getting it, but it

828
00:53:45,810 --> 00:53:48,240
just starts with us. But the
thing is, our numbers are so

829
00:53:48,240 --> 00:53:53,220
small. We can't withstand these
attacks. And I can't call it any

830
00:53:53,220 --> 00:53:55,410
other thing. We can't withstand
these attacks.

831
00:53:56,520 --> 00:54:00,510
Because our numbers can't absorb
that hit. I mean, it's a white

832
00:54:00,510 --> 00:54:06,600
cooler 50 60% we're 13 if you're
talking about interracial will

833
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:09,480
be gone right before and then
there was there will wake up one

834
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:13,440
day, but you know what, we need
to change this, this practice

835
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:15,510
that we're doing, but then we're
gone.

836
00:54:17,370 --> 00:54:21,540
That's a real possibility. I
mean, that that is that does

837
00:54:21,540 --> 00:54:25,140
seem to be the overall belief in
the color gi plan. That was

838
00:54:25,140 --> 00:54:28,320
always the idea to brown
population in Europe, you know,

839
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:32,700
so it makes total sense that
that that's the idea here. And

840
00:54:32,700 --> 00:54:35,340
that's what Malcolm said about
the hot coffee and the cool the

841
00:54:35,340 --> 00:54:38,100
cool cream. I mean, you mix it
half and half you don't have

842
00:54:38,100 --> 00:54:41,550
coffee or cream, which coffee
and cream both have purposes.

843
00:54:41,850 --> 00:54:45,390
And they have need they're
needed in this society in their

844
00:54:45,390 --> 00:54:49,980
own separate entities. Yes,
exactly. Um, so I mean, I just

845
00:54:50,100 --> 00:54:52,740
wanted to bring that up. So I
mean, that pretty much wraps the

846
00:54:52,740 --> 00:54:56,460
scientific method irrational and
linear thing, but that's gonna

847
00:54:56,460 --> 00:54:58,950
weave his way in and out of the
rest of the episode, but I just

848
00:54:58,950 --> 00:54:59,970
want to go on his checklist.

849
00:55:00,599 --> 00:55:03,539
have things that they're trying
to destroy. And when you do

850
00:55:03,539 --> 00:55:08,549
that, it's I don't know, I find
that very problematic. But um

851
00:55:09,119 --> 00:55:12,689
now we're going to talk about
individualism. So now we're

852
00:55:12,689 --> 00:55:17,009
gonna go back to the Ingraham
angle or Ingraham angle.

853
00:55:19,980 --> 00:55:25,680
Ingraham. Yeah. So we're going
back to her. And this goes to

854
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:30,990
show you the lack of
individualism that free thinking

855
00:55:30,990 --> 00:55:36,120
black people can have the way
these two correspond back and

856
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:39,390
forth to each other and not
forget there was Cooper versus

857
00:55:39,390 --> 00:55:43,080
scotties. Excuse me, Horace
Cooper, versus Scotty smart.

858
00:55:44,580 --> 00:55:47,910
And just listen to this
exchange, they have chorus, it

859
00:55:47,910 --> 00:55:53,490
strikes me as odd that this
African American Museum would

860
00:55:53,490 --> 00:55:59,850
scandalized things that the data
has always shown help Americans,

861
00:55:59,910 --> 00:56:04,170
including African Americans,
climb up the ladder. So you have

862
00:56:04,170 --> 00:56:09,810
a $500 million. That's a half a
billion dollar structure

863
00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:15,060
edifice, that apparently thinks
its purpose is to offer advice,

864
00:56:15,150 --> 00:56:20,400
to cripple black America to say
to black America, the very tools

865
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:25,170
that black Americans like white
Americans have used to succeed

866
00:56:25,290 --> 00:56:31,740
and become prosperous, hard
work, tenacity, faith, the types

867
00:56:31,770 --> 00:56:39,300
of success skills that work to
call those somehow, a racial

868
00:56:39,330 --> 00:56:44,400
category would make David Duke
proud. This is really, really

869
00:56:44,460 --> 00:56:48,000
sad, if that's the direction
this museum is trying to go.

870
00:56:50,970 --> 00:56:54,270
He said David do was hilarious.
It makes me laugh. It is pretty

871
00:56:54,270 --> 00:56:54,600
funny.

872
00:56:55,650 --> 00:56:59,190
But he's right. These are the
things we say, you know, hard

873
00:56:59,190 --> 00:57:02,910
work. Taste, right. And I'm not
specifically saying

874
00:57:02,910 --> 00:57:07,380
Christianity, but I will say
this, when a person has some

875
00:57:07,380 --> 00:57:13,890
kind of faith system, especially
my people are our people. They

876
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:19,530
You know, it tends to help them
deal with society. You know, I

877
00:57:19,530 --> 00:57:21,810
mean, I think that's in general,
but I'll just go and speak

878
00:57:21,810 --> 00:57:25,320
specifically to our group,
because it gives you some kind

879
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:25,560
of

880
00:57:27,030 --> 00:57:33,510
thought process, know and coping
mechanism, a stable family. Like

881
00:57:33,510 --> 00:57:37,410
I said, scientific method, hard
work. These are all things that

882
00:57:37,410 --> 00:57:40,200
we were taught, I mean, you work
hard, you, you know, go to

883
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:43,890
school, get a good education.
Make yourself a productive

884
00:57:43,890 --> 00:57:48,840
member of society. And, you
know, you you, you'll do I mean,

885
00:57:49,950 --> 00:57:50,700
you'll be okay.

886
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:55,590
I'll say this, you lessens the
chance you lessen the chance

887
00:57:56,100 --> 00:58:00,120
that the system will chew you up
and spit you out. Right. And

888
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:02,220
that's a real sentiment. I know,
people might think that's

889
00:58:02,220 --> 00:58:07,020
hyperbole. No, but that's, that
is the feeling on that. And that

890
00:58:07,050 --> 00:58:08,430
that's part of the talk.

891
00:58:09,630 --> 00:58:13,230
That goes on. I mean, the talk
is, like I said, it's a long and

892
00:58:13,230 --> 00:58:17,430
complicated conversation between
parents and children. And you

893
00:58:17,430 --> 00:58:18,750
know, and I think,

894
00:58:20,130 --> 00:58:25,110
looking at parents my age, I
think,

895
00:58:26,820 --> 00:58:31,200
I would say it was less of that
it was more like your parents

896
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:34,320
worked hard to make sure you can
have an education. Once you have

897
00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:35,580
that, you're gonna be okay.

898
00:58:37,980 --> 00:58:43,110
I'm generalizing. I'm
generalizing. But I think that

899
00:58:43,110 --> 00:58:48,030
may have been a little less of a
work hard mentality. It's just

900
00:58:48,030 --> 00:58:49,350
my general feeling.

901
00:58:51,180 --> 00:58:52,260
Well, okay.

902
00:58:54,510 --> 00:58:57,900
Yeah, I see what you're saying.
But from our side is like you

903
00:58:57,900 --> 00:59:02,160
had no, and this is, I know, I
don't know how I feel about this

904
00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:05,100
statement. Yeah, I don't know. I
don't know how I feel about this

905
00:59:05,100 --> 00:59:08,460
statement. But it was said, it
was like, you have to work twice

906
00:59:08,460 --> 00:59:12,450
as hard. You have to work twice
as hard. And I don't think that

907
00:59:12,450 --> 00:59:15,750
I agree with that. No, I'm
saying I'm telling you, that's

908
00:59:15,750 --> 00:59:16,470
what we were told

909
00:59:17,700 --> 00:59:21,660
to work twice as hard to have.
And like I said, I don't know

910
00:59:21,660 --> 00:59:24,810
how I feel about that statement.
Because when you say it to your

911
00:59:24,810 --> 00:59:29,970
kids, you're saying your half is
good. Yeah, in a roundabout way.

912
00:59:30,210 --> 00:59:34,500
But then it goes, it goes back
to our previous conversation. Is

913
00:59:34,500 --> 00:59:39,660
it better to know that there's
this lingering system out there

914
00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:43,290
that like, I think this is the
approach with our data and know

915
00:59:43,290 --> 00:59:46,470
how we interact with these big
companies? Is it better to know

916
00:59:46,470 --> 00:59:50,760
or is it better just to know
learn the system and navigate? I

917
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:53,880
think more I think, I think
knowing and learning the system

918
00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:55,290
and navigating the system

919
00:59:56,490 --> 01:00:00,000
is necessary for many children
in many different situations.

920
01:00:00,750 --> 01:00:04,800
But connecting it and saying,
because of who you were born as,

921
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:08,790
therefore, you have to work
twice as hard. I don't think

922
01:00:08,790 --> 01:00:12,090
that's a positive association
that does any good. But you

923
01:00:12,090 --> 01:00:14,790
know, like, hey, you're poor,
and this is gonna suck, and

924
01:00:14,790 --> 01:00:16,560
here's what you're gonna have to
do. And you're gonna have to

925
01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:19,170
kick some ass to get there.
We're not but not necessarily,

926
01:00:19,530 --> 01:00:23,430
you know, just because, you
know, I mean, I, I think

927
01:00:23,430 --> 01:00:27,570
children are saying, but the
problem is that

928
01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:32,670
how can I say this? The problem
is when

929
01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:36,360
you don't want to tell your kids
or you can go to school and be a

930
01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:37,860
C student and be president.

931
01:00:40,410 --> 01:00:41,280
And yet, Barack,

932
01:00:42,330 --> 01:00:43,650
that's what's amazing that Well,

933
01:00:44,730 --> 01:00:48,450
I was thinking Bush, another
fine example. There's plenty of

934
01:00:48,450 --> 01:00:51,660
dumb presidents. Right? I'm
gonna, what I'm saying is that

935
01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:55,530
even Barack Obama had to give
the appearance that he was an

936
01:00:55,530 --> 01:00:58,200
intellectual, right? He
couldn't, he couldn't have

937
01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:02,040
Bush's resume, and be president.
So I'm just giving you an

938
01:01:02,040 --> 01:01:05,400
example. And I'm not saying like
I said, I'll just preface this

939
01:01:05,430 --> 01:01:08,550
by saying, I don't know how I
feel about that. And I don't say

940
01:01:08,550 --> 01:01:09,660
that to my kids,

941
01:01:10,830 --> 01:01:14,550
explicitly to say, hey, you
gotta work twice as hard. But I

942
01:01:14,550 --> 01:01:18,210
say to them, and I kind of got
this room. And like I said, this

943
01:01:18,210 --> 01:01:20,610
is where you learn from
different cultures. You don't

944
01:01:20,610 --> 01:01:22,710
want to be a student, you want
to be the best student in the

945
01:01:22,710 --> 01:01:27,300
class. And I learned that from
my Indian friends. Because in

946
01:01:27,330 --> 01:01:30,510
India, that's how it's ranking.
It's no, it's no, great. Right?

947
01:01:30,510 --> 01:01:33,570
Right. Right, right. So that's
why they kick our butt when they

948
01:01:33,570 --> 01:01:36,750
come over here, cuz they're
fighting to be the best not just

949
01:01:36,900 --> 01:01:40,260
everybody gets an A, or you
know, everybody gets a B. It's

950
01:01:40,260 --> 01:01:46,350
like, there's only one number
one. So I get, like I said, I, I

951
01:01:46,350 --> 01:01:48,630
don't know, I don't know how I
feel about that. But it was it's

952
01:01:48,630 --> 01:01:51,540
a real cinnamon said that, you
know, we had to be twice as

953
01:01:51,540 --> 01:01:51,870
good.

954
01:01:52,980 --> 01:01:55,680
Or twice as hard. Yeah, I'm just
trying to so many different

955
01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:58,890
scenarios. But maybe it is
unique. I don't know, it's hard

956
01:01:58,890 --> 01:02:02,250
for me to say. But like I said,
I feel your

957
01:02:03,330 --> 01:02:06,090
best if you want to interact
with the system. And that's why

958
01:02:06,090 --> 01:02:08,850
I say now in the information age
where

959
01:02:10,620 --> 01:02:17,580
you can invest in a startup
business and explore. You can

960
01:02:17,580 --> 01:02:21,420
explore your mind your ideas,
your dreams, right? Where you

961
01:02:21,420 --> 01:02:26,130
used to be confined to what was
your, your, you know, the bad

962
01:02:26,250 --> 01:02:30,900
news about education is racist
Mo. That's it, I figured it out.

963
01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:34,950
Education is racist, man. Stay
away from

964
01:02:37,290 --> 01:02:40,710
the whole thing, not just math.
Think math is the whole thing.

965
01:02:41,580 --> 01:02:48,240
Especially PE all racist. But
the notion that when black men

966
01:02:48,270 --> 01:02:53,400
say work hard, and you want we
want a stable family, and you

967
01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:58,680
know, we use logic and reason,
that's how we get the labeled as

968
01:02:58,680 --> 01:03:00,270
the white people or black
people.

969
01:03:02,490 --> 01:03:05,850
Right. So it's really that
notion. So it's really not just

970
01:03:05,850 --> 01:03:08,190
destructive towards black
people, this idea of

971
01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:10,560
all these

972
01:03:12,840 --> 01:03:16,350
everything the museum stands
for, it's really also just

973
01:03:16,350 --> 01:03:20,340
eliminating black men who by the
way, are just not showing up

974
01:03:20,340 --> 01:03:22,710
anymore in the logos and
anywhere.

975
01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:26,730
Only trading the other day, we
were sending something back and

976
01:03:26,730 --> 01:03:31,080
forth. That was the flows that
from the un un United Nations

977
01:03:31,080 --> 01:03:31,680
where they had

978
01:03:32,910 --> 01:03:34,530
they had every variety

979
01:03:35,670 --> 01:03:39,060
together black and white man,
one woman loving herself for

980
01:03:39,060 --> 01:03:44,100
self love, generational old man
with a young guy in a ratio and

981
01:03:44,100 --> 01:03:46,710
then the black woman, click the
one that was clearly

982
01:03:47,640 --> 01:03:51,870
illustration. So it's really the
black woman was expressing self

983
01:03:51,870 --> 01:03:54,360
love. And she was crazy.

984
01:03:56,700 --> 01:04:00,150
But that's that's the goal. And
and now you can say I'm

985
01:04:00,630 --> 01:04:05,520
conspiratorial or paranoid. But
from these actions, yes, they

986
01:04:05,520 --> 01:04:08,040
want to get rid of us because if
they get rid of us, then you get

987
01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:12,420
rid of the race, period, a blank
period. In this case, we're

988
01:04:12,420 --> 01:04:15,780
actually talking about black
black men like we've never even

989
01:04:15,780 --> 01:04:17,400
met but I think you're pretty
black.

990
01:04:18,630 --> 01:04:19,740
So like, Cory?

991
01:04:22,680 --> 01:04:23,100
Yeah,

992
01:04:24,150 --> 01:04:29,220
but Cory Booker, black man, no,
it's not color. That's why we

993
01:04:29,220 --> 01:04:33,300
can't get it. But wait, but wait
a minute, I'm trying to connect

994
01:04:33,300 --> 01:04:37,530
the whole circle. If we want to
have a mocha color throughout

995
01:04:37,530 --> 01:04:40,110
the entire universe, which is
clearly the idea.

996
01:04:41,340 --> 01:04:45,180
Then will there be a bias more
towards getting rid of black

997
01:04:45,180 --> 01:04:48,870
black men versus brown black
men? Because then it is about

998
01:04:48,870 --> 01:04:52,590
color. Is that because that is
kind of the identification that

999
01:04:52,620 --> 01:04:53,370
they're doing.

1000
01:04:54,660 --> 01:04:59,820
That is getting rid of I must
say this is getting rid of

1001
01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:08,730
Black men. And when I'm saying
that men who identify as so

1002
01:05:08,730 --> 01:05:14,910
called a DOS or whatever,
getting rid of men, men men are

1003
01:05:14,910 --> 01:05:19,140
under attack. Yes. Specifically,
if it starts with a, who are the

1004
01:05:19,140 --> 01:05:22,140
first mean, they're gonna be put
under attack well, and it's like

1005
01:05:22,170 --> 01:05:25,950
we can get them, then the whole
rest of the world falls into

1006
01:05:25,950 --> 01:05:31,590
place. So it's when I say black
men, I'm saying, people, men who

1007
01:05:31,620 --> 01:05:35,430
operate like men and work off
logic and reason and hard work

1008
01:05:35,430 --> 01:05:40,560
and those things. If we can get
the subset of black men that

1009
01:05:40,620 --> 01:05:44,340
identify with their maleness or
their manliness, we can take

1010
01:05:44,340 --> 01:05:46,470
them out. I have the

1011
01:05:47,550 --> 01:05:51,600
right terms. No, no, no, hold on
a second. This is good because

1012
01:05:52,020 --> 01:05:54,180
everything is the white man's
fault right now. It's not the

1013
01:05:54,180 --> 01:05:57,240
same thing is what's happening
to black men. The white man it's

1014
01:05:57,240 --> 01:06:00,390
all old white men all your
fault. You're a holes you

1015
01:06:00,390 --> 01:06:04,290
misogynistic. You're
mansplaining you no good. No

1016
01:06:04,290 --> 01:06:10,230
good. But we are always
portrayed as wimps. Oh, honey,

1017
01:06:10,230 --> 01:06:13,650
I'm sorry. I got the wrong
washing powder. Ooh, that's be

1018
01:06:13,650 --> 01:06:18,900
the doofus again. Right? The
black man has a much stronger,

1019
01:06:18,900 --> 01:06:24,480
much more masculine image in
society still. And I was I

1020
01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:26,700
brought that point up before
that when you talk about

1021
01:06:26,700 --> 01:06:30,450
masculinity. If we're talking
about societal masculinity,

1022
01:06:31,260 --> 01:06:34,980
white men are the pinnacle. And
what I mean by that is

1023
01:06:35,010 --> 01:06:36,330
benefiting from the

1024
01:06:37,620 --> 01:06:40,860
inheritance and generational
wealth and things of that

1025
01:06:40,860 --> 01:06:45,300
nature. But when we talk about
physical Yeah, masculinity.

1026
01:06:47,010 --> 01:06:51,360
Black men are the the pinnacle.
Right, but masculinity is no

1027
01:06:51,360 --> 01:06:54,210
longer. Yeah, masculinity is no
longer the banker, the

1028
01:06:54,210 --> 01:06:58,440
successful businessman. That's
in fact, the Trump type

1029
01:06:58,440 --> 01:07:01,560
businessman. That has to be
erased. That's none of it that

1030
01:07:01,590 --> 01:07:05,070
white men don't exist like that.
Where we're balding. We're fat,

1031
01:07:05,100 --> 01:07:08,640
we're hunched over. We're right.
Yeah, we're any anything but

1032
01:07:08,670 --> 01:07:09,270
cool.

1033
01:07:10,320 --> 01:07:13,020
And that's why you started with
a sports league. Right? You want

1034
01:07:13,020 --> 01:07:13,860
to bring in this?

1035
01:07:15,990 --> 01:07:21,630
Right, the pinnacle of white
masculinity and intermingling

1036
01:07:21,630 --> 01:07:25,500
with the pinnacle of black
masculinity. And it's a cultural

1037
01:07:25,500 --> 01:07:28,290
war because LeBron James, you
would say he's the pinnacle of

1038
01:07:28,290 --> 01:07:31,950
masculinity period, because he's
692 170 pounds it can jump you

1039
01:07:31,950 --> 01:07:35,070
know, jump running you know and
and intelligent all these

1040
01:07:35,070 --> 01:07:40,290
things. And then but he's owned
by a mass they own the team is

1041
01:07:40,290 --> 01:07:43,890
owned by owned by owner is owned
by China and really, but that's

1042
01:07:43,890 --> 01:07:45,270
right. Well, yeah.

1043
01:07:46,500 --> 01:07:50,970
But but the optics are owned by
a white man. And he's too

1044
01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:54,660
masculine. He's clash. And and
the powers that be are playing

1045
01:07:54,660 --> 01:07:57,540
them off each other. Yeah,
hoping that they destroy each

1046
01:07:57,540 --> 01:08:00,030
other, and then we'll have
somebody right. Well, we won't

1047
01:08:00,030 --> 01:08:02,610
get too far. I like it. No, no,
I like it. I'd like it. Okay,

1048
01:08:02,610 --> 01:08:05,670
dude, I'm sorry. You keep moving
mo um, I'm just diving in with

1049
01:08:05,670 --> 01:08:10,410
you. Yeah, so just an example of
this. You her horse, Cooper

1050
01:08:10,410 --> 01:08:15,930
speak. And now Scotty smart is
gonna come in. And we'll see

1051
01:08:15,930 --> 01:08:19,230
what Scotty does. I think that I
actually loved the article, I

1052
01:08:19,230 --> 01:08:21,120
think a lot of people should
actually go and read the

1053
01:08:21,120 --> 01:08:25,590
article. We can't keep pushing
whiteness and white privilege

1054
01:08:25,620 --> 01:08:28,800
under the rug. Like it's not an
issue. It's a deep rooted issue

1055
01:08:28,800 --> 01:08:32,010
that we have to address. And I
think even to have two black

1056
01:08:32,010 --> 01:08:35,790
people, myself and Horace to be
against one another, to have a

1057
01:08:36,030 --> 01:08:39,750
debate on this topic is a whole
matter of whiteness in itself,

1058
01:08:39,780 --> 01:08:41,940
because he's gonna sit here and
try to contradict what we're

1059
01:08:41,940 --> 01:08:44,370
talking about. So I don't want
to talk over hearts. I don't

1060
01:08:44,370 --> 01:08:46,770
want to be disrespectful to
horse. Well, horses, that token

1061
01:08:46,770 --> 01:08:50,340
black friend, only a few white
people have as well. So we're

1062
01:08:50,340 --> 01:08:54,300
not here to debate or get not to
have a dialogue. But we have to

1063
01:08:54,300 --> 01:08:56,430
have this conversation between
it's an uncomfortable

1064
01:08:56,430 --> 01:08:58,890
conversation that most people
aren't willing to have, and to

1065
01:08:58,890 --> 01:09:01,680
educate blacks and whites on our
different perspectives,

1066
01:09:02,100 --> 01:09:04,560
different narratives that we
have, that we grew up with and

1067
01:09:04,620 --> 01:09:08,130
so to have someone who is a
representation of black people.

1068
01:09:10,440 --> 01:09:14,400
So I invited you on the show in
good faith, you actually have a

1069
01:09:14,400 --> 01:09:19,440
conversation and and yet you
come on the show, and you kind

1070
01:09:19,440 --> 01:09:23,700
of give it a little backhand to
Horace and it's a dehumanizing

1071
01:09:23,820 --> 01:09:27,000
Well, it's dehumanizing to call
someone a token, it's

1072
01:09:27,000 --> 01:09:29,970
dehumanizing. And that's that's
the language that I whether

1073
01:09:29,970 --> 01:09:33,150
you're white, black, brown
skinned, whatever you are,

1074
01:09:33,180 --> 01:09:37,170
that's a that's a dehumanizing
word. He's a human being with

1075
01:09:37,170 --> 01:09:39,450
thoughts. Maybe he disagrees
with you. That's okay. I don't

1076
01:09:39,450 --> 01:09:41,430
care that you disagree with him.
But

1077
01:09:45,000 --> 01:09:46,620
he's me. No disrespect okay.

1078
01:09:49,980 --> 01:09:53,580
disrespect to Horace no dishes.
No, not me. Not Are you taking

1079
01:09:53,580 --> 01:09:54,510
it the wrong way token.

1080
01:09:56,460 --> 01:09:59,100
Because Okay, now we got to get
into some linguistics here

1081
01:09:59,130 --> 01:10:00,000
because remember, when we

1082
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:02,580
had a conversation about thug,
right?

1083
01:10:03,810 --> 01:10:09,870
And thug being synonymous with
the N word used by a certain

1084
01:10:09,870 --> 01:10:15,810
crowd. Now token were used by
one black person against another

1085
01:10:15,810 --> 01:10:18,930
black person. That is the same
thing as saying Coons Hoon

1086
01:10:18,930 --> 01:10:22,980
level. Yeah, yeah. So that's
what I mean. He says no, I don't

1087
01:10:22,980 --> 01:10:24,990
mean any disrespect token. But

1088
01:10:26,130 --> 01:10:29,190
here because the white man wants
you to do his bidding for him.

1089
01:10:29,310 --> 01:10:32,490
But this is a projection.
Because the other reason is

1090
01:10:32,490 --> 01:10:35,100
Scott is here for that very
reason.

1091
01:10:36,510 --> 01:10:37,680
Exactly.

1092
01:10:39,660 --> 01:10:43,920
Always projection. But I will
say this about horse, Porsche to

1093
01:10:43,920 --> 01:10:48,990
stop a Ingraham in her tracks
and said, No, I don't need you

1094
01:10:48,990 --> 01:10:52,830
to speak for me. Because the way
the optics the way it looked is,

1095
01:10:53,070 --> 01:10:55,140
he attacked a black man and his
white woman.

1096
01:10:56,670 --> 01:11:00,390
Right? Yeah, yeah, I wouldn't. I
would admit that right in the

1097
01:11:00,390 --> 01:11:03,180
book, like, nah, nah, nah, nah,
nah, let me handle Scotty.

1098
01:11:03,870 --> 01:11:07,950
Right. But he's on it here. He's
only there to do the bidding of

1099
01:11:07,950 --> 01:11:13,140
the liberals. Which that's why I
said we, we see the game now. We

1100
01:11:13,140 --> 01:11:17,220
see that we've been seeing it.
We saw in the 2020 election.

1101
01:11:17,370 --> 01:11:19,980
That's the numbers we'll find
out and I'm not gonna go there.

1102
01:11:21,060 --> 01:11:23,100
I want it to be able to go on
YouTube. I'm sorry. I

1103
01:11:24,780 --> 01:11:25,800
don't talk about the numbers.

1104
01:11:28,680 --> 01:11:33,630
Now, but what I'm saying we see.
We're just as distrusting or

1105
01:11:33,630 --> 01:11:37,410
more distrusting of the liberal
narrative, that a conservative

1106
01:11:37,410 --> 01:11:39,000
narrative because the
conservative narrative makes

1107
01:11:39,000 --> 01:11:43,230
sense. Or maybe it's like maybe
maybe they should someone should

1108
01:11:43,230 --> 01:11:47,940
alert the liberal the liberals
about this. The alienating

1109
01:11:47,940 --> 01:11:48,480
people.

1110
01:11:50,040 --> 01:11:53,130
They don't care. Because we're
not human. We heard what she

1111
01:11:53,130 --> 01:11:57,030
said you're dehumanizing. You do
not realize what happened in the

1112
01:11:57,030 --> 01:12:00,210
2020 election. Black men that
speak for themselves were

1113
01:12:00,210 --> 01:12:04,530
dehumanized, eliminated, really,
from the entire conversations

1114
01:12:04,530 --> 01:12:04,950
gone.

1115
01:12:06,210 --> 01:12:09,210
When you say, oh, why would you
vote for a person like this? Or

1116
01:12:09,210 --> 01:12:13,320
that? It's like, you just are
totally nullified. Like, shut

1117
01:12:13,320 --> 01:12:17,610
up. Yeah, go to your corner. I
want to hear an explanation. So

1118
01:12:17,610 --> 01:12:21,210
it's like, okay, you're allowed
to speak because the powers that

1119
01:12:21,210 --> 01:12:23,160
be like what you're saying,
Scotty,

1120
01:12:24,210 --> 01:12:28,500
were a horse would be shouted
down. Wish, what I'm saying what

1121
01:12:28,500 --> 01:12:30,840
I would say is, and this is
where we go back to the list.

1122
01:12:31,350 --> 01:12:36,180
Let's bring it out the facts and
weigh them out. And whoever has

1123
01:12:36,180 --> 01:12:39,360
the best set of facts wins. But
that's not what they do. And

1124
01:12:39,360 --> 01:12:42,570
they make it about feeling they
get rid of facts make it about

1125
01:12:42,570 --> 01:12:46,620
feelings. And then, you know,
whoever has the best narrative

1126
01:12:46,620 --> 01:12:47,160
wins.

1127
01:12:48,570 --> 01:12:53,280
Yeah. So I mean, like I said, I
found that very disgusting. Um,

1128
01:12:54,210 --> 01:12:59,520
for, for you to be sent on Fox
News. Somebody, you know, put

1129
01:12:59,520 --> 01:13:02,430
him out there. And I know, he
didn't have any leg to stand on

1130
01:13:02,880 --> 01:13:05,880
to, you know, make an argument
for the thing they're trying to

1131
01:13:05,880 --> 01:13:07,680
get rid of. So he made it a

1132
01:13:09,300 --> 01:13:13,170
personal attack on horse, right?
Was that what that was in your

1133
01:13:13,170 --> 01:13:14,880
word? It was chicken shit. I
mean,

1134
01:13:16,380 --> 01:13:19,350
I mean, I know. So I mean, I
didn't like that at all. But

1135
01:13:19,350 --> 01:13:21,510
that's that's the way they do. I
mean, it's just they just

1136
01:13:21,660 --> 01:13:24,180
dehumanize you, and I think
that's why we that's why we

1137
01:13:24,180 --> 01:13:26,370
humanize here. So um,

1138
01:13:27,450 --> 01:13:28,980
so now we need to get to

1139
01:13:30,030 --> 01:13:35,310
examining what illustrate it and
what define black individualism.

1140
01:13:35,610 --> 01:13:39,300
And we're going to talk about
one of Mr. Melville john

1141
01:13:40,350 --> 01:13:43,350
archivists. Have you ever heard
of him before? No, I don't think

1142
01:13:43,350 --> 01:13:46,170
so. Let me give you a little
background on him, and then we

1143
01:13:46,170 --> 01:13:49,920
can jump right into a clip 13.
So he was an American

1144
01:13:50,400 --> 01:13:53,460
anthropologist who helped
establish African and African

1145
01:13:53,460 --> 01:13:58,830
American studies have
established, okay, I'm African

1146
01:13:58,830 --> 01:14:02,070
American Studies and American
academia, he was known to know

1147
01:14:02,070 --> 01:14:06,630
for exploring the cultural
continuity from African cultures

1148
01:14:06,630 --> 01:14:10,020
and spreads to African American
communities. He worked for his

1149
01:14:10,020 --> 01:14:14,520
wife, I mean, work with his
wife, Francis, Perkovic as an

1150
01:14:14,520 --> 01:14:18,630
anthropologist and in the field,
in South America, caribbeans

1151
01:14:18,630 --> 01:14:24,510
Africa. So he basically is the
father of African American

1152
01:14:24,510 --> 01:14:28,380
History. So he would Jewish me,
he would be the guy that would

1153
01:14:28,380 --> 01:14:31,320
be would know something that
while he's no longer around, I

1154
01:14:31,320 --> 01:14:36,270
presume, as you know. So he died
in 63. Is he involved with this

1155
01:14:36,270 --> 01:14:37,350
museum somehow?

1156
01:14:39,300 --> 01:14:45,150
Well, a lot of his work. is you
know, is the is the foundation

1157
01:14:45,180 --> 01:14:50,010
is back. Yeah. is the foundation
of what they teach of the

1158
01:14:50,010 --> 01:14:53,790
African aspects of a DOS.

1159
01:14:54,810 --> 01:14:59,580
Guy the the expert. Well, this
getting to 13 to find out

1160
01:15:04,049 --> 01:15:05,039
In the United States,

1161
01:15:06,180 --> 01:15:10,260
obviously, one only has to look
at the great degree of crossing

1162
01:15:10,590 --> 01:15:14,730
tremendous variation in color
that marks American. I hear the

1163
01:15:14,730 --> 01:15:18,900
voice of Melville j herskovits.
And what I wonder is, why did

1164
01:15:18,900 --> 01:15:20,940
the white man come to know so
much about black people?

1165
01:15:22,740 --> 01:15:25,860
Probably more than any other
American melva. herskovits is

1166
01:15:25,860 --> 01:15:29,250
the person who demonstrates that
African Americans are connected

1167
01:15:29,250 --> 01:15:29,970
to Africans.

1168
01:15:31,590 --> 01:15:34,380
He was a leading anthropologist
of the 20th century. But he was

1169
01:15:34,380 --> 01:15:36,030
also a kind of social paradox.

1170
01:15:37,350 --> 01:15:39,990
Do you look at Herskowitz
through one angle, he sets the

1171
01:15:39,990 --> 01:15:44,400
terms for our understanding of
the relationship between Africa

1172
01:15:44,580 --> 01:15:48,270
and black people on the
Americans. from another angle,

1173
01:15:48,300 --> 01:15:51,270
you might see him as someone who
appropriates a certain kind of

1174
01:15:51,270 --> 01:15:55,140
knowledge from another angle.
He's the son of Jewish

1175
01:15:55,140 --> 01:15:57,270
immigrants, and he's trying to
sort out his own position in

1176
01:15:57,270 --> 01:15:57,750
America.

1177
01:16:01,530 --> 01:16:04,140
I always like to think of him as
kind of the Elvis of African

1178
01:16:04,140 --> 01:16:07,950
American Studies. On the one
hand, you might think of someone

1179
01:16:07,950 --> 01:16:10,800
like Elvis as someone who takes
things that blacks have already

1180
01:16:10,800 --> 01:16:13,950
been doing, and he gets the
credit for them. On the other

1181
01:16:13,950 --> 01:16:17,010
hand, you can say, Well, here's
a guy who actually mainstreams

1182
01:16:17,040 --> 01:16:17,880
Rock and Roll

1183
01:16:19,320 --> 01:16:23,910
Yeah, it's a good question. That
is very good question how this

1184
01:16:24,420 --> 01:16:28,770
and I don't mean to bring up his
ethnicity but this Jewish man

1185
01:16:28,980 --> 01:16:33,300
jumps all the African American
scholars to be the spokesperson

1186
01:16:33,330 --> 01:16:37,830
or as the the speaker put it,
the Elvis Presley of black

1187
01:16:37,830 --> 01:16:41,790
history. Black Studies who
either ripped it off or he

1188
01:16:41,790 --> 01:16:44,520
popularized it whichever way you
want to go with it. That's a

1189
01:16:44,520 --> 01:16:45,030
toughy

1190
01:16:46,260 --> 01:16:50,100
Yeah, but if you pop realize it,
then you define it at the same

1191
01:16:50,100 --> 01:16:52,410
time without a problem. Yep.

1192
01:16:53,550 --> 01:16:57,600
So he he's a very interesting
character. But like I said, a

1193
01:16:57,600 --> 01:16:58,440
lot of he was

1194
01:16:59,520 --> 01:17:01,290
a lot of what he did was

1195
01:17:02,460 --> 01:17:06,570
the modern African American
Studies is based off his his

1196
01:17:06,780 --> 01:17:11,700
work, right? It's all his own.
1920s 1930s is right when he was

1197
01:17:11,700 --> 01:17:15,210
writing all this stuff. Yeah.
And even later, I think it north

1198
01:17:15,420 --> 01:17:19,080
Northwestern University, if I'm
not mistaken, so we can go and

1199
01:17:19,080 --> 01:17:22,830
get into the second clip about
him. Christmas mainstream some

1200
01:17:22,830 --> 01:17:25,110
of these ideas about the
connections between African and

1201
01:17:25,110 --> 01:17:26,280
African American culture.

1202
01:17:29,670 --> 01:17:33,510
Early anthropologists were
committed to demonstrating that

1203
01:17:34,050 --> 01:17:39,120
black people were inferior. Many
people believed black culture

1204
01:17:39,120 --> 01:17:42,180
was a bad copy of white culture.
Look, I you know, if black

1205
01:17:42,180 --> 01:17:45,330
people have been ignored, not
listened to their part of the

1206
01:17:45,330 --> 01:17:49,200
story is not being told. For
centuries, it's understandable

1207
01:17:49,410 --> 01:17:52,920
that black scholars can't,
waiting in line behind some

1208
01:17:52,920 --> 01:17:57,330
white guy to tell the story that
they want to tell. What is the

1209
01:17:57,330 --> 01:18:00,570
Negro in the sense that the term
is used in the United States?

1210
01:18:02,370 --> 01:18:04,560
Does it mean to ask what is a
negro?

1211
01:18:06,120 --> 01:18:07,650
What is a negro as a physical
type?

1212
01:18:08,910 --> 01:18:11,220
What is a negro is an
existential condition.

1213
01:18:12,360 --> 01:18:13,740
What does the Negro want?

1214
01:18:14,760 --> 01:18:18,150
How do we understand African
American belonging over time?

1215
01:18:20,550 --> 01:18:26,010
Does the right to define and
describe and observe people give

1216
01:18:26,040 --> 01:18:30,270
you power over those people?
Does the right to really

1217
01:18:30,420 --> 01:18:33,090
characterize a people determine
their fate?

1218
01:18:34,860 --> 01:18:38,730
Yeah, but it does. Absolutely.
And the reason why I brought

1219
01:18:38,730 --> 01:18:41,610
this up, is that the same way he
did it, then

1220
01:18:42,960 --> 01:18:47,130
the same way it's being done.
Now, yeah, we can't define who

1221
01:18:47,130 --> 01:18:51,720
we are for ourselves, is always
another person from outside the

1222
01:18:51,720 --> 01:18:57,150
group that's defining who we
are, which that impacts the

1223
01:18:57,150 --> 01:19:02,760
individualism. And that's why
you have somebody like, Scotty

1224
01:19:02,760 --> 01:19:04,920
attack Horace, because like
you're not sticking to who we

1225
01:19:04,920 --> 01:19:09,240
supposed to be. Like, it's like,
how about we be who we are, and

1226
01:19:09,240 --> 01:19:14,220
then the collective are defined
by the individuals. But no, it's

1227
01:19:14,250 --> 01:19:17,160
a group thing. It's a it's a
it's mind control is what it is.

1228
01:19:17,190 --> 01:19:20,880
I mean, yeah. in a weird way,
quote, unquote.

1229
01:19:22,470 --> 01:19:27,360
Well, no, it is black blackness
is is a, like a set form of set

1230
01:19:27,360 --> 01:19:29,700
rules that you have to conform
to.

1231
01:19:33,150 --> 01:19:36,210
I guess the most one of his most
polarizing books, was this the

1232
01:19:36,210 --> 01:19:41,970
myth of the Negro past? Yes. And
we're talking about early 1900s

1233
01:19:41,970 --> 01:19:44,790
when he was doing his work. It's
not like he was back in, you

1234
01:19:44,790 --> 01:19:51,030
know, 1619 right now, that's
actually 1941. Yeah. So he

1235
01:19:51,030 --> 01:19:54,960
writes these books in the early
to mid 1900s. Yeah. What were we

1236
01:19:54,960 --> 01:19:59,190
before them? I mean, you had
like we didn't have a Frederick

1237
01:19:59,190 --> 01:19:59,970
Douglass in it.

1238
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:03,720
Booker T Washington and these
people defining who we are here

1239
01:20:03,720 --> 01:20:07,080
to come this guy come along. I
know who the Negro is everybody

1240
01:20:07,080 --> 01:20:11,040
relax. Let me tell you who the
Negro is. It's like what I see.

1241
01:20:12,269 --> 01:20:15,839
W Ed Dubois did a review of it.
I'll have to read that. But

1242
01:20:15,839 --> 01:20:18,269
that's pretty Yeah. Hey, can you
send me that link? Because I

1243
01:20:18,269 --> 01:20:21,179
would love to hear read that as
well what he had to say, Yeah, I

1244
01:20:21,179 --> 01:20:25,349
just wanted to be funny. I just
want to show like, you know, how

1245
01:20:26,129 --> 01:20:30,269
we are never allowed to define
ourselves. And even with this

1246
01:20:30,269 --> 01:20:35,159
museum, everything was defined
for us. It was like, Oh, no,

1247
01:20:35,159 --> 01:20:38,069
Clarence Thomas. No
conservatives, and I'm not like

1248
01:20:38,069 --> 01:20:42,209
I said, I'm not a big clarence
thomas fan. He had some problems

1249
01:20:42,209 --> 01:20:45,659
with some of the things he said,
but making it to the Supreme

1250
01:20:45,659 --> 01:20:47,849
Court should get you an
automatic spot.

1251
01:20:50,190 --> 01:20:53,250
Kind of get on that. Did you see
the people who were on the Board

1252
01:20:53,340 --> 01:20:58,260
of Ed interesting. Right. So I
mean, that that goes to show you

1253
01:20:58,260 --> 01:21:01,260
is that is not the all
encompassing black.

1254
01:21:02,460 --> 01:21:06,000
It's that this is the narrative
that we want to tell about black

1255
01:21:06,000 --> 01:21:11,430
people. Well, Quincy Jones is on
the council. Well, Quincy,

1256
01:21:11,460 --> 01:21:12,240
Quincy Jones. Yeah.

1257
01:21:13,380 --> 01:21:15,810
I mean, Quincy is cool. You
know, Quincy, bring sex appeal

1258
01:21:15,810 --> 01:21:21,180
to any board. Right. Let me see.
Shonda Rhimes shaundalyn in the

1259
01:21:21,180 --> 01:21:24,450
house. Oh, look, at no wonder we
got a great marriage.

1260
01:21:26,850 --> 01:21:29,340
And we brought in Colin Powell.

1261
01:21:31,710 --> 01:21:35,010
You know what? Color piles are
very interesting.

1262
01:21:36,120 --> 01:21:40,680
I've met him I'm, I'm not a fan
of General Power. I'm just

1263
01:21:40,680 --> 01:21:45,450
saying the way he he saw the way
that these things was going. And

1264
01:21:45,450 --> 01:21:49,140
he did a real quick pivot on his
politics. Oh, yeah.

1265
01:21:50,520 --> 01:21:54,450
Because he knew he had to stay
around. And if he stay stuck to

1266
01:21:54,450 --> 01:21:59,490
his guns, he would not survive
the canceled culture right. Now,

1267
01:21:59,520 --> 01:22:01,200
I totally agree. Totally.

1268
01:22:02,400 --> 01:22:05,430
All right. So this is a great
group. I wonder if they get

1269
01:22:05,430 --> 01:22:07,830
together? They must have some
I'm sure they

1270
01:22:09,000 --> 01:22:12,540
have a great, great drinking
club. This looks fantastic.

1271
01:22:14,340 --> 01:22:15,330
And drinks on the menu.

1272
01:22:18,180 --> 01:22:20,910
First order of business. How
about that building we put down

1273
01:22:20,910 --> 01:22:24,330
huh? How about that for some
crazy Illuminati crap. And

1274
01:22:24,330 --> 01:22:30,030
where's those $65,000 hot dogs?
Go on to number 15. Professor

1275
01:22:30,030 --> 01:22:32,970
herskovits was no ordinary
professor.

1276
01:22:34,140 --> 01:22:41,190
This man was a force. And you
did not take him on lightly.

1277
01:22:42,360 --> 01:22:48,390
Although I can't list all of the
do's and don'ts that Professor

1278
01:22:48,390 --> 01:22:54,240
herskovits put out there.
Certainly, among the don'ts was

1279
01:22:54,240 --> 01:22:54,900
the following.

1280
01:22:55,980 --> 01:23:00,090
Don't get involved in political
stuff.

1281
01:23:03,030 --> 01:23:06,780
That was that was a difficult
message for me to hear.

1282
01:23:08,250 --> 01:23:11,160
But even as a graduate student,
I think I knew

1283
01:23:12,180 --> 01:23:17,790
almost anything, had its
political side to it,

1284
01:23:19,410 --> 01:23:24,390
including by Professor
herskovits was writing and

1285
01:23:24,390 --> 01:23:24,750
doing.

1286
01:23:29,040 --> 01:23:35,370
The myths were endless. You will
hear jokingly, of course, every

1287
01:23:35,370 --> 01:23:35,850
day.

1288
01:23:37,500 --> 01:23:43,020
Professor herskovits gets up,
looks into a mirror and says ah

1289
01:23:43,470 --> 01:23:45,420
Afrique. Same law.

1290
01:23:47,850 --> 01:23:54,480
That was our quick way of saying
Professor herskovits seem to

1291
01:23:54,480 --> 01:23:57,930
think sometime videoed Africa.

1292
01:23:59,040 --> 01:24:00,210
It was his.

1293
01:24:01,680 --> 01:24:04,320
And even as a graduate student.

1294
01:24:05,610 --> 01:24:11,070
We wondered if sometimes his
reign wasn't too tightly held.

1295
01:24:13,980 --> 01:24:20,040
Why weren't there more African
and African American scholars at

1296
01:24:20,280 --> 01:24:21,300
Northwestern

1297
01:24:25,200 --> 01:24:26,610
he ran a tight ship.

1298
01:24:30,900 --> 01:24:38,220
It always amazes me that these
non black people can come in,

1299
01:24:39,420 --> 01:24:45,000
take over and tell you how
blackness is going to be ran.

1300
01:24:45,630 --> 01:24:48,150
And he's like, Don't question
me. You heard her. She worked

1301
01:24:48,150 --> 01:24:51,300
with him closely. And I mean,
she was fond of him. I mean, I

1302
01:24:51,300 --> 01:24:55,020
mean, it's not like she, you
know, had bad things to say

1303
01:24:55,020 --> 01:24:59,070
about him. I think her feedback
was honest that it becomes an

1304
01:24:59,100 --> 01:24:59,970
ownership like

1305
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:01,770
I own the blacks.

1306
01:25:03,300 --> 01:25:04,590
I speak for the blacks.

1307
01:25:06,779 --> 01:25:12,299
wishes I didn't find it very
disgusting. Yes. So how much how

1308
01:25:12,299 --> 01:25:15,719
much this modern stuff is based
off of him? Is it? Is he really

1309
01:25:15,719 --> 01:25:20,999
the foundation? Like all of this
is based off of his work? Yes.

1310
01:25:21,029 --> 01:25:25,439
The Odd African theory. I mean,
we're not the set theory per se,

1311
01:25:25,439 --> 01:25:29,519
but the the origin of black
people in America out of Africa,

1312
01:25:29,909 --> 01:25:32,729
and the narrative and what I'm
saying, but he was defining this

1313
01:25:32,729 --> 01:25:38,459
the 1940s. Yeah. For 1619 1940.
He comes along with all I could

1314
01:25:38,459 --> 01:25:41,999
tell you what exactly what
happened in those 300 years.

1315
01:25:42,209 --> 01:25:45,689
Right incident. Alex Haley,
again, is an inspiration for

1316
01:25:45,719 --> 01:25:49,649
roots from this. No, I was heavy
guys inspiration for somewhere

1317
01:25:49,649 --> 01:25:49,889
else.

1318
01:25:53,190 --> 01:25:55,560
Every show, all different show.

1319
01:25:58,080 --> 01:26:00,750
But yeah, I mean, but that's
that that was the beginning of

1320
01:26:00,750 --> 01:26:03,390
the narrative for the pan
africanism. And those kind of

1321
01:26:03,390 --> 01:26:08,280
things, which I was saying,
well, that's amazing now is

1322
01:26:08,280 --> 01:26:11,760
never heard this name before.
Exactly.

1323
01:26:14,370 --> 01:26:17,010
herskovits. And it's with an S
at the end, which is very

1324
01:26:17,010 --> 01:26:20,610
distinctive. It's not a z
herskovits. Yes, never heard of

1325
01:26:20,610 --> 01:26:21,990
this guy. Interesting.

1326
01:26:23,190 --> 01:26:26,730
What he comes in, and he defines
what blackness is in the mid in

1327
01:26:27,240 --> 01:26:31,710
the mid 1900s, which I just find
fascinating. Peter has so many

1328
01:26:31,710 --> 01:26:34,410
great thought leaders

1329
01:26:35,760 --> 01:26:39,330
at the time, and he just comes
along and do hijacks didn t know

1330
01:26:39,330 --> 01:26:42,480
the narrative, which of course,
he had the money behind him. So

1331
01:26:42,480 --> 01:26:45,450
that's the other thing. And what
you'll find out now is what

1332
01:26:45,450 --> 01:26:50,820
you'll start to find out is that
the academics go with where the

1333
01:26:50,820 --> 01:26:54,810
funding goes, Oh, and we've seen
this with preaching the choir

1334
01:26:54,810 --> 01:26:57,300
here with global warming and
those things, but it's no

1335
01:26:57,300 --> 01:27:03,360
different. It's like my job is
to, to be a scholar, the money's

1336
01:27:03,360 --> 01:27:06,180
coming in. So I have to make a
narrative this and that's what

1337
01:27:06,180 --> 01:27:10,020
they're saying about him being
Elvis. It's like, do you let

1338
01:27:10,050 --> 01:27:12,960
Elvis come in and make rock or
roll take it through the roof?

1339
01:27:13,230 --> 01:27:17,940
And all of our sales go up, you
know, for the genre, but at the

1340
01:27:17,940 --> 01:27:21,780
same time, now rock and roll is
not even identified as a black

1341
01:27:21,780 --> 01:27:25,620
music form. Yeah, because you
let somebody else.

1342
01:27:26,970 --> 01:27:31,050
And that may be the choice that
ultimately is is the downside of

1343
01:27:31,050 --> 01:27:32,670
capitalism, I guess.

1344
01:27:33,720 --> 01:27:37,320
True. That that may be one of
those things that is like, wow,

1345
01:27:37,320 --> 01:27:40,110
you gotta have a strong, strong,
strong hands.

1346
01:27:41,520 --> 01:27:45,330
To say no, no, we should do this
differently. So since we're

1347
01:27:45,330 --> 01:27:48,570
defining what black is, we have
to go back to show nine and

1348
01:27:48,570 --> 01:27:51,600
this. We played this several
times on here, but it's always

1349
01:27:51,600 --> 01:27:55,350
good to see how the one drop
rule define blackness in

1350
01:27:55,350 --> 01:27:55,890
America.

1351
01:27:57,150 --> 01:28:00,120
Explain what the one drop rule
is. The one drop rule,

1352
01:28:00,120 --> 01:28:03,330
historically, also known as a
rule of hypo descent was really

1353
01:28:03,330 --> 01:28:06,270
instituted to protect whiteness,
it was a way for the white

1354
01:28:06,270 --> 01:28:10,470
majority to be able to name and
incite who was white. So it was

1355
01:28:10,470 --> 01:28:15,450
one drop, which is 130, second
130, second of Negro or African

1356
01:28:15,450 --> 01:28:18,540
blood would make that person
Negro or African. Whatever the

1357
01:28:18,540 --> 01:28:21,030
classification they used at the
time I hear people say we're

1358
01:28:21,030 --> 01:28:24,570
going to post racial society,
the reality is, in order to get

1359
01:28:24,570 --> 01:28:27,570
beyond something, you have to
understand it right. And where

1360
01:28:27,570 --> 01:28:30,510
in your education, where have
you been required to learn about

1361
01:28:30,510 --> 01:28:34,950
race? They don't teach it. No,
it is the foundation of this

1362
01:28:34,950 --> 01:28:38,700
country. We have to talk about
race, we have to talk about

1363
01:28:38,700 --> 01:28:41,850
racial difference. It is just a
flat out lie for us to believe

1364
01:28:41,850 --> 01:28:43,290
that we've moved beyond race.

1365
01:28:45,660 --> 01:28:50,670
And that's the thing that when
we say black, that's defined by

1366
01:28:51,330 --> 01:28:55,350
a legal designation, yeah, it's
not skin color. I mean, I know I

1367
01:28:55,350 --> 01:28:58,680
beat this missing this dead
horse, but we have to say that

1368
01:28:58,680 --> 01:29:04,320
because, um, people, people
easily slip back into the color

1369
01:29:04,320 --> 01:29:08,520
thing. And it's not about color,
it's about what you identify

1370
01:29:08,520 --> 01:29:09,270
legally.

1371
01:29:10,860 --> 01:29:11,550
So

1372
01:29:13,020 --> 01:29:18,240
there, they're doing, I'm gonna
say this black Americans, a das

1373
01:29:18,240 --> 01:29:21,930
foundation of black native
blacks. We're going through a

1374
01:29:23,400 --> 01:29:27,540
divinity, self identification
phase.

1375
01:29:28,980 --> 01:29:35,130
Because we're saying, okay,
we're not Africans per se.

1376
01:29:36,960 --> 01:29:41,400
And, you know, we have our own
lineage, we have our own story,

1377
01:29:41,430 --> 01:29:46,590
we have our own origin. So who
are we? And that's upsetting. So

1378
01:29:46,590 --> 01:29:50,460
a lot of people because if you
start saying that 13% splinters

1379
01:29:50,460 --> 01:29:56,340
to eight five split 10 three
split. That changes politics

1380
01:29:56,340 --> 01:29:59,970
that changes the way proceed.

1381
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:06,690
power structure. Yes. Excellent
term, it changes everything. So

1382
01:30:06,690 --> 01:30:09,330
people like no, no, no, no
crawling back in, you got to

1383
01:30:09,330 --> 01:30:09,750
correct.

1384
01:30:11,550 --> 01:30:15,360
Is this? Are you in fact, a part
of a

1385
01:30:18,180 --> 01:30:19,020
black

1386
01:30:20,880 --> 01:30:22,290
renaissance man

1387
01:30:23,550 --> 01:30:29,400
as black, I think, possibly
social media more access to

1388
01:30:29,400 --> 01:30:33,000
publishing your thoughts in
different media, so not just

1389
01:30:33,870 --> 01:30:40,620
Twitter. But there's also
there's music? I know, clubhouse

1390
01:30:40,620 --> 01:30:44,940
is the it's probably one of the
blackest apps out there? Or was

1391
01:30:44,970 --> 01:30:47,520
was I think that's gonna end you
watch.

1392
01:30:49,380 --> 01:30:52,620
I know how that goes. Yeah,
you're not gonna see and, you

1393
01:30:52,620 --> 01:30:56,460
know, and and you it's like,
there's a, an awakening and

1394
01:30:56,460 --> 01:31:01,230
awareness and a positioning of
the black American male.

1395
01:31:02,340 --> 01:31:02,940
That

1396
01:31:04,320 --> 01:31:07,410
is probably happening on one
hand, because you're being

1397
01:31:07,410 --> 01:31:09,150
suppressed and you're being
suppressed because it's

1398
01:31:09,150 --> 01:31:12,000
happening. And your message is
not necessarily.

1399
01:31:13,170 --> 01:31:16,920
Let's go to the club popping
bottles and, and let's, you

1400
01:31:16,920 --> 01:31:19,980
know, drive around and and show
our bling. Now it's something

1401
01:31:19,980 --> 01:31:23,130
completely different. And it was
a place

1402
01:31:25,590 --> 01:31:29,370
that was the loud minority,
right? The very small minority.

1403
01:31:29,400 --> 01:31:34,320
And what people like me are
saying is, we want to be self

1404
01:31:34,320 --> 01:31:38,580
defined. We don't want to be
defined by the boulais. We don't

1405
01:31:38,580 --> 01:31:41,490
want to be defined by the
African American Museum, we

1406
01:31:41,490 --> 01:31:45,630
don't want to be defined by a
white academia. We want to

1407
01:31:45,690 --> 01:31:50,160
define who we are. Okay, now,
let's figure out what that is.

1408
01:31:50,160 --> 01:31:53,280
And that's, that's the journey
we're on. And we've been here

1409
01:31:53,280 --> 01:31:57,480
before, like, it's a
synchronicity to it because in

1410
01:31:57,480 --> 01:32:03,270
the 1920s, we're kind of in the
same spot. of in Harlem on every

1411
01:32:03,270 --> 01:32:05,640
street corner, you have somebody
with a different

1412
01:32:08,400 --> 01:32:12,780
uh, what blackness was a
different definition of

1413
01:32:12,780 --> 01:32:15,810
blackness. And it was like,
okay, it was a market for ideas.

1414
01:32:16,020 --> 01:32:18,240
And that's kind of what the
internet that was wired, like,

1415
01:32:19,290 --> 01:32:22,830
realism in the 20s. You mean,
yet, same thing. Now

1416
01:32:22,830 --> 01:32:25,860
entrepreneurial ism, because it
was it opened up, it was like,

1417
01:32:25,860 --> 01:32:31,200
Okay, now we can do business.
Um, so now you have independent

1418
01:32:31,200 --> 01:32:34,620
thinkers, we're now used to get
like a soap box and go in a

1419
01:32:34,620 --> 01:32:37,470
corner, and you are in this
corner. And you know, the guys

1420
01:32:37,470 --> 01:32:40,410
on the other corner. Now we're
on YouTube channels. And now

1421
01:32:40,410 --> 01:32:46,020
we're on a social media post.
And we're saying, and we're

1422
01:32:46,020 --> 01:32:49,830
finding people that have similar
thoughts to ourselves, or who

1423
01:32:49,830 --> 01:32:53,160
has good facts or who has good
data. It's not about narrative

1424
01:32:53,160 --> 01:32:55,560
anymore. And that's why they
want to double down on

1425
01:32:55,560 --> 01:32:58,200
narrative. Because if you don't
have the facts, you got to

1426
01:32:58,200 --> 01:33:02,400
double down on there. So it is
partially a great self

1427
01:33:02,400 --> 01:33:06,300
identification process,
simultaneous, building your own

1428
01:33:06,360 --> 01:33:11,010
narrative and positioning as
where black American men want to

1429
01:33:11,010 --> 01:33:11,370
be.

1430
01:33:12,810 --> 01:33:16,470
Yes, because when you define
whiteness, you say whiteness is

1431
01:33:16,470 --> 01:33:22,020
the problem. That's juxtaposed
to blackness. Not Brown. Not

1432
01:33:22,020 --> 01:33:26,790
color is blackness, you know,
um, so that's, that they're

1433
01:33:26,790 --> 01:33:29,460
like, wow, like, it's a lot of
information leaking out, and

1434
01:33:29,460 --> 01:33:32,970
people thinking and talking, and
what do we do? You know, it's,

1435
01:33:33,480 --> 01:33:36,900
it's a lot of, you know, it's a
lot of uncertainty. And it's,

1436
01:33:37,980 --> 01:33:42,690
so they have their key. That's
why you see, these need, and

1437
01:33:42,690 --> 01:33:44,790
shows all we need to make more
black movies. I mean, they make

1438
01:33:44,790 --> 01:33:49,350
more, you know, for example,
Black Panther, which I was in, I

1439
01:33:49,350 --> 01:33:54,450
was in Central Market. And it
was in the central market was it

1440
01:33:54,450 --> 01:33:57,180
was we had a crisis here. So
everything's, you know, all the

1441
01:33:57,180 --> 01:34:00,600
shelves are empty, but are not
all of them, but some of the key

1442
01:34:00,600 --> 01:34:03,660
ones. And so I'm looking all
around the store, all of a

1443
01:34:03,660 --> 01:34:07,830
sudden, this is like whole,
separate, Stan has got wine on

1444
01:34:07,830 --> 01:34:12,570
it. It's got preservatives on
it, like what is this? And they

1445
01:34:12,570 --> 01:34:15,900
had a whole separate section in
the store mode for black owned

1446
01:34:15,900 --> 01:34:16,860
businesses.

1447
01:34:18,270 --> 01:34:21,150
I'm like, What the hell? What
the hell is this?

1448
01:34:22,260 --> 01:34:25,650
I'll be shopping for wine and
jam at the same time. And what

1449
01:34:25,650 --> 01:34:28,860
are you trying to tell me here?
It was very bizarre.

1450
01:34:30,720 --> 01:34:35,280
That it's there. Come on back
home. Come on back. We'll give

1451
01:34:35,280 --> 01:34:37,860
you a shelf. Just don't get your
own store.

1452
01:34:38,910 --> 01:34:43,170
You see, you understand what's
going on is let's make it so

1453
01:34:43,170 --> 01:34:48,090
comfortable. That you don't want
to leave. Yeah, you've

1454
01:34:48,090 --> 01:34:50,580
completely opened my eyes. I
mean, I see these things

1455
01:34:50,580 --> 01:34:54,090
everywhere now. Like, and I'm so
happy to hear you say we're so

1456
01:34:54,090 --> 01:34:57,570
sick of the virtue signaling,
because that's what I see. Oh my

1457
01:34:57,570 --> 01:34:58,980
god, like stop.

1458
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:03,960
Do is pander to a person. Of
course, when you pander to a

1459
01:35:03,960 --> 01:35:07,080
person, what you're saying is
you're a petty,

1460
01:35:10,620 --> 01:35:14,160
literal literal. That's
literally the definition, their

1461
01:35:14,160 --> 01:35:17,880
definition of white supremacy.
You're inferior. So we have to

1462
01:35:17,880 --> 01:35:22,140
cater to, you know, to bring you
up to our level. Aren't we so

1463
01:35:22,140 --> 01:35:22,740
kind.

1464
01:35:24,780 --> 01:35:28,920
So I want to talk quickly about
Black Panther because that was

1465
01:35:28,920 --> 01:35:33,960
one of the last gaffes to bring
black people back into the fold

1466
01:35:33,960 --> 01:35:39,300
of Africa. They're bringing that
back, but yeah, well, the

1467
01:35:39,300 --> 01:35:43,740
original when I saw them, once
again, nothing is nothing is no

1468
01:35:43,740 --> 01:35:46,980
pun intended. Nothing is black
or white. Cuz like cool Black

1469
01:35:46,980 --> 01:35:51,450
Panther. Okay, my son can watch
no movie and no see got like

1470
01:35:51,450 --> 01:35:55,800
heroes and no of different
varieties and just cool. But

1471
01:35:55,800 --> 01:35:57,870
when you break that, and I'm
gonna do a whole show on this

1472
01:35:57,870 --> 01:36:01,290
eventually, one day, but just a
quick synopsis of Black Panther,

1473
01:36:01,290 --> 01:36:05,310
what happens is, you have an
African Prince come to America

1474
01:36:05,970 --> 01:36:09,780
to try to help black people. And
they come here and I guess they

1475
01:36:09,780 --> 01:36:13,080
kill him. And they leave your
son killmonger, behind, which is

1476
01:36:13,080 --> 01:36:18,870
half African American or a DOS,
half wakandan. And when he goes

1477
01:36:18,870 --> 01:36:23,250
back and fights the real black,
the standard existing Black

1478
01:36:23,250 --> 01:36:25,350
Panther, he beats on fair
square.

1479
01:36:26,610 --> 01:36:29,820
And then the wakandans team up
with the CIA to take him out of

1480
01:36:29,820 --> 01:36:31,770
power. Crazy. Holy shit.

1481
01:36:34,830 --> 01:36:38,370
Excuse me for cursing. I mean,
what is like what? Yeah.

1482
01:36:39,690 --> 01:36:45,690
Put all that back again. And the
guy has actual rights to the

1483
01:36:45,690 --> 01:36:49,530
throne. Yeah. Through his
father. Yeah. He goes back and

1484
01:36:49,530 --> 01:36:53,880
wins it fair and square. And
then they work with the CIA to

1485
01:36:53,880 --> 01:36:56,550
take him out of power because he
said, Let's take our resources

1486
01:36:57,000 --> 01:36:59,340
and give it to black people
across the world. And they're

1487
01:36:59,340 --> 01:37:00,480
No, no, no, no, you can't do
that.

1488
01:37:02,190 --> 01:37:05,250
You can't be doing that. So
that's what Disney is putting

1489
01:37:05,250 --> 01:37:07,050
out. Now you see?

1490
01:37:08,160 --> 01:37:12,330
Me? Oh, my conflict here is
like, Yeah, but that review that

1491
01:37:12,330 --> 01:37:16,170
you just gave there in? In five
sentences? No One No One heard

1492
01:37:16,170 --> 01:37:19,890
that review anywhere? Of course
not because it was dashi keys

1493
01:37:19,890 --> 01:37:20,580
and dancing.

1494
01:37:21,600 --> 01:37:26,340
Dancing double D's not lit. No,
literally, literally, and you

1495
01:37:26,340 --> 01:37:29,160
will see it again. I'm calling
it again. You're gonna see that.

1496
01:37:29,160 --> 01:37:35,010
But guess what, what happened?
The Black Panther black male has

1497
01:37:35,010 --> 01:37:37,710
been taken out. And guess who's
gonna be the new black panther?

1498
01:37:38,280 --> 01:37:40,560
His sister? Yep. Woman.

1499
01:37:41,910 --> 01:37:45,030
Which I ain't ruling out
sacrifice on him. But

1500
01:37:46,680 --> 01:37:48,780
it is kind of convenient, isn't
it?

1501
01:37:50,910 --> 01:37:54,630
Very convenient. But reason why
the reason why I bring it.

1502
01:37:55,830 --> 01:37:58,950
I'm gonna give you just a little
bit of theramin for that. That

1503
01:37:58,950 --> 01:38:02,670
was I like that. I always
thought, Man, what a shame this

1504
01:38:02,670 --> 01:38:06,270
young guy, you know, but now you
bring in that that's going on?

1505
01:38:07,950 --> 01:38:11,040
Because it would be a never
ending argument. You know, you

1506
01:38:11,040 --> 01:38:14,370
can't just you couldn't just
replace him? No, because you

1507
01:38:14,370 --> 01:38:18,120
lose half your market. Yeah. But
this is very convenient.

1508
01:38:19,440 --> 01:38:23,580
The reason why I bring up the
Black Panther is because somehow

1509
01:38:23,580 --> 01:38:30,690
Wakanda has become the black
utopia. And this speaks to how

1510
01:38:30,690 --> 01:38:34,590
silly things are. We're talking
about fake country in a fake

1511
01:38:34,590 --> 01:38:38,910
movie. Yeah, we didn't do this
with was the moon day we're

1512
01:38:38,910 --> 01:38:42,540
coming to America. We say oh, we
were gonna create onto the moon

1513
01:38:42,540 --> 01:38:46,800
Did you know I mean, but now?
Well, I do remember a lot of

1514
01:38:46,800 --> 01:38:49,680
jokes going and we were joking
around a lot back in the day

1515
01:38:49,680 --> 01:38:53,100
when that came, you know, people
actually think they're going to

1516
01:38:53,100 --> 01:38:56,700
create their own Wakanda. And
it's like, unless you have a

1517
01:38:56,700 --> 01:38:58,020
natural resource like that.

1518
01:39:00,060 --> 01:39:03,600
Okay, you don't believe me? I'm
gonna need a trigger warning

1519
01:39:03,600 --> 01:39:06,870
before I play this next clip,
because it's from a guy named

1520
01:39:06,870 --> 01:39:09,810
salty cracker. So that explains
that explain.

1521
01:39:10,890 --> 01:39:15,090
No, no, not the salty cracker.
Yeah, the salty cracker. So

1522
01:39:17,280 --> 01:39:18,390
I want to cover this story.

1523
01:39:30,150 --> 01:39:34,530
All right, can we go straight
into it educator fired a Bronx

1524
01:39:34,560 --> 01:39:38,250
school Super Nintendo says that
she was fired as a result of

1525
01:39:38,250 --> 01:39:42,060
Chancellor Richard karatzas
equity agenda my friends that

1526
01:39:42,060 --> 01:39:46,230
advanced people of color over
whites. Karen Ames is suing the

1527
01:39:46,230 --> 01:39:48,930
New York schools for $150
billion

1528
01:39:50,430 --> 01:39:55,140
Zimbabwean dollars right $150
million, because she says that

1529
01:39:55,140 --> 01:39:58,440
she was targeted by Quran says
quote disrupt and dismantle

1530
01:39:58,440 --> 01:40:00,000
campaign to oust or

1531
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:04,230
marginalize longtime employees.
She's in one of these things.

1532
01:40:04,380 --> 01:40:06,900
Ames was grilled about her
quote, ethnic background

1533
01:40:06,930 --> 01:40:10,860
chastised by a colleague at a
training session when she shared

1534
01:40:10,860 --> 01:40:14,220
her grandparents experience
during the Holocaust in Poland,

1535
01:40:14,550 --> 01:40:18,030
and that she was admonished when
she declined a request at Super

1536
01:40:18,030 --> 01:40:21,270
Nintendos meetings to take part
in comic book movie inspired

1537
01:40:21,300 --> 01:40:25,440
look onto forever slowed to
Black Power she charges illegal

1538
01:40:25,440 --> 01:40:29,160
filing games was praised by
carozza in a visit to her Bronx

1539
01:40:29,160 --> 01:40:31,890
school he praised her for
raising math scores at a

1540
01:40:31,890 --> 01:40:33,720
troubled school but see they
don't care about that.

1541
01:40:35,850 --> 01:40:36,690
Racist man.

1542
01:40:39,510 --> 01:40:44,370
She was fired. And this is New
York Post New York Post you

1543
01:40:44,370 --> 01:40:47,790
could probably look it up Bronx
educator claims she was fired at

1544
01:40:47,790 --> 01:40:51,060
the sharing Holocaust story,
refusing to recount Wakanda

1545
01:40:51,060 --> 01:40:57,000
salute. She went into the
wickedness loop, which was to be

1546
01:40:57,000 --> 01:41:01,080
honest with you, the Wakanda
Salut is actually the expo

1547
01:41:01,110 --> 01:41:05,760
Osiris in Egypt. You know, when
they used to bury him? Yeah,

1548
01:41:05,760 --> 01:41:10,620
they bury him like that. Yeah,
yeah, yeah. Yeah. This district

1549
01:41:10,620 --> 01:41:14,640
of Cairo. You're saying Yeah.
Oh, man.

1550
01:41:16,980 --> 01:41:21,030
is right there. And the thing
is, this lady looks like Kamala

1551
01:41:21,030 --> 01:41:24,330
Harris. When you look at her
picture, I mean, like me, she

1552
01:41:24,330 --> 01:41:29,640
favors Kamala Harris. I'm
looking right now. Man, man,

1553
01:41:29,640 --> 01:41:33,990
man, man. What what? This will
come to thing man that's a mind

1554
01:41:33,990 --> 01:41:38,850
control right there. It is. Cuz
I see it popping up everywhere.

1555
01:41:38,850 --> 01:41:41,340
jokingly you know, like, Hey,
brother, what's going on with

1556
01:41:41,340 --> 01:41:45,060
that? No joke. No, this is not a
joke. It's not but I see him

1557
01:41:45,060 --> 01:41:49,020
jokingly I see it I see it. And
I'm like, Yeah, whatever. But

1558
01:41:49,020 --> 01:41:51,540
now you bring it up. It's like
Wow, she does look like Kamala

1559
01:41:51,540 --> 01:41:56,400
Harris. A bit a little rougher
which is a racially ambiguous I

1560
01:41:56,400 --> 01:41:57,270
mean, you saw

1561
01:41:58,650 --> 01:42:02,880
I mean, like it could be I mean,
like you had to do to double

1562
01:42:02,880 --> 01:42:05,160
check. I did have to look twice
Yeah.

1563
01:42:07,140 --> 01:42:07,620
Wow.

1564
01:42:09,060 --> 01:42:12,270
Man this is why I brought that
up while blog brought up Black

1565
01:42:12,270 --> 01:42:16,740
Panther because Wow, people are
getting fired over not doing the

1566
01:42:16,740 --> 01:42:19,860
Wakanda salute. Are you kidding
me?

1567
01:42:22,590 --> 01:42:24,120
So that is

1568
01:42:26,280 --> 01:42:26,730
well

1569
01:42:28,950 --> 01:42:33,180
can I get a capsule culture
capsule cannon for Mr. Van

1570
01:42:33,180 --> 01:42:34,980
Jones, please cuz he's up. He's
next.

1571
01:42:38,790 --> 01:42:41,100
Van. Oh van he was on.

1572
01:42:42,180 --> 01:42:47,070
He was on the view. He was
brought to task to working with

1573
01:42:47,070 --> 01:42:50,970
the enemy. Oh, man, you do spend
a lot of time you know,

1574
01:42:50,970 --> 01:42:54,180
threading the middle and trying
to unite people. But there are

1575
01:42:54,180 --> 01:42:57,210
those who really accuse you of
being a political opportunists,

1576
01:42:57,210 --> 01:43:00,810
a chameleon, so to speak, who
provided a racial cover four

1577
01:43:00,810 --> 01:43:04,530
former disgrace twice impeached
President Trump. You said this,

1578
01:43:04,530 --> 01:43:07,470
and I quote, Donald Trump and I
get beat up by liberals every

1579
01:43:07,470 --> 01:43:10,440
time I say this, but I'm gonna
keep saying it. He has done good

1580
01:43:10,440 --> 01:43:13,260
stuff for the black community.
opportunity's own stuff, black

1581
01:43:13,260 --> 01:43:16,260
college stuff. There's a side to
Donald Trump that I think he

1582
01:43:16,260 --> 01:43:21,750
does not get enough credit. yet.
Just recently, you tried on CNN

1583
01:43:21,750 --> 01:43:25,740
when Joe Biden was elected the
46th President, and you said

1584
01:43:25,770 --> 01:43:28,650
it's easier to be a parent now.
Character matters. Now truth

1585
01:43:28,650 --> 01:43:32,160
matters. You even mentioned
George Floyd and said a lot of

1586
01:43:32,160 --> 01:43:35,580
people felt they couldn't
breathe. People in the black

1587
01:43:35,580 --> 01:43:39,150
community don't trust you
anymore. What is your response?

1588
01:43:39,450 --> 01:43:40,530
What Wait a minute.

1589
01:43:41,820 --> 01:43:44,340
Who is asking the question?
That's that Sonny?

1590
01:43:45,540 --> 01:43:48,990
Oh, she speaks on behalf of the
black community and she can she

1591
01:43:48,990 --> 01:43:52,410
can say that. She's late to the
party because we didn't trust me

1592
01:43:52,410 --> 01:43:53,310
for a long time.

1593
01:43:55,980 --> 01:43:56,160
Television

1594
01:43:59,070 --> 01:43:59,700
Yeah.

1595
01:44:00,900 --> 01:44:02,760
Oh, wow. Cooler man. I'm so

1596
01:44:04,050 --> 01:44:08,640
real real quick, man. If you
want to know van van, he's done.

1597
01:44:08,970 --> 01:44:12,060
And it's bigger reasons. I'm
gonna get into that later. But

1598
01:44:12,630 --> 01:44:17,370
van Charles explains explain in
19. But it doesn't work out. You

1599
01:44:17,670 --> 01:44:22,080
know, Black Lives Matter. Math
matters to 80% of black folks

1600
01:44:24,330 --> 01:44:28,980
that are run in part or home by
Republicans, red states and

1601
01:44:28,980 --> 01:44:32,580
purple states. So when you can
pass a law as my team has done

1602
01:44:32,760 --> 01:44:39,390
in a Louisiana, in a Georgia in
a

1603
01:44:41,160 --> 01:44:45,450
California, Michigan, red
states, blue states and purple

1604
01:44:45,450 --> 01:44:49,530
states to get people home. The
people behind bars are not

1605
01:44:49,530 --> 01:44:52,230
sitting up. You're worried to
get me out of prison, Dan, but

1606
01:44:52,230 --> 01:44:55,320
whatever you do, don't talk to a
Republican. They say get me out

1607
01:44:55,320 --> 01:44:58,950
of prison. And I am proud of the
fact that my team at the reform

1608
01:44:58,950 --> 01:44:59,970
Alliance dreams

1609
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:03,510
Core and cut 50 have been able
to work with anybody to get off

1610
01:45:03,510 --> 01:45:07,500
home. And a certain point, we
got to stop focusing on rhetoric

1611
01:45:07,500 --> 01:45:10,050
and look at result. People that
may not like everything I have

1612
01:45:10,050 --> 01:45:13,320
said on television, I tried to
be balanced. But look at what

1613
01:45:13,320 --> 01:45:17,190
I've done, who among my critics
have been able to get people

1614
01:45:17,190 --> 01:45:20,310
together to help us at the
bottom? When we fight like this

1615
01:45:20,310 --> 01:45:23,250
about everything, and you can't
get anybody even a little bit of

1616
01:45:23,250 --> 01:45:26,880
credit for anything? Who hurts?
It's not the politicians. It's

1617
01:45:26,880 --> 01:45:30,510
not the pundits is regular folks
who don't have anything, people

1618
01:45:30,510 --> 01:45:33,240
who can't vote because they're
in jail. We have to put their

1619
01:45:33,240 --> 01:45:36,270
interests first. I'm never going
to apologize for putting the

1620
01:45:36,270 --> 01:45:39,180
interest of people at the bottom
first, people need champions,

1621
01:45:39,180 --> 01:45:41,850
whoever is in that white house.
I got a responsibility to go in

1622
01:45:41,850 --> 01:45:45,150
there and advocate and try to
get people home out of prison.

1623
01:45:45,150 --> 01:45:47,220
I'm gonna keep doing it.
Whoever's in that white house.

1624
01:45:50,580 --> 01:45:53,250
No vans not gonna work. First of
all,

1625
01:45:54,510 --> 01:45:58,410
first of all, newsflash fan.
Math is racist. Yeah, so you

1626
01:45:58,410 --> 01:46:00,570
might want to leave that out if
you're

1627
01:46:03,540 --> 01:46:10,110
defending yourself. And, um, but
it ain't gonna work. Because now

1628
01:46:10,110 --> 01:46:14,340
you're like I said, even a Van
Jones, you go on TV, you cry.

1629
01:46:14,670 --> 01:46:19,530
You know, you, you know, you
can't have any leanings towards

1630
01:46:19,530 --> 01:46:23,070
working with the other side at
all, or is cancellation but

1631
01:46:23,070 --> 01:46:27,120
there's a ulterior motive to
cancel the van. And we're gonna

1632
01:46:27,120 --> 01:46:29,310
get to that. Did you want to
make a comment before we get

1633
01:46:29,310 --> 01:46:33,870
into the next? I was gonna say
that I've always appreciated Van

1634
01:46:33,870 --> 01:46:37,650
Jones. No matter what he did.
I'd like to I'd like to crying.

1635
01:46:37,650 --> 01:46:40,830
I think that's great. It makes
for great clips.

1636
01:46:42,300 --> 01:46:45,060
It I think it's hard to in the
right place. It's just he's got

1637
01:46:45,060 --> 01:46:49,710
an he actually becomes the
canary in the coal mine. You

1638
01:46:49,710 --> 01:46:54,270
know, it's like, you can't have
it both ways. In today's

1639
01:46:54,270 --> 01:46:58,500
culture. It just doesn't work
that way. Yeah. So and if that's

1640
01:46:58,500 --> 01:47:02,100
the thing, that's the thing that
you were saying about, um, I

1641
01:47:02,100 --> 01:47:04,890
used to have a problem with van
but when I heard the interview,

1642
01:47:04,890 --> 01:47:07,230
we talked we heard him talking
about he's a natural crier. He's

1643
01:47:07,230 --> 01:47:10,440
been a crier, since a kid. I
used to think that was a ploy.

1644
01:47:11,010 --> 01:47:14,460
But when you come to find out,
like I said, humanizing. When

1645
01:47:14,460 --> 01:47:17,730
they saw him as a human and say,
Okay, well, your natural crier,

1646
01:47:17,760 --> 01:47:19,680
knock yourself out. I mean,
that's what you do. And this

1647
01:47:19,680 --> 01:47:22,170
time because like, Man, this
stuff, he says, Here I like, you

1648
01:47:22,170 --> 01:47:25,020
know, it's like, most of what
he's saying is good, but that's

1649
01:47:25,020 --> 01:47:28,590
not good. Not gonna help. Well,
the thing is, he thought he

1650
01:47:28,590 --> 01:47:33,240
could, and this is what a lot of
people are gonna realize. There

1651
01:47:33,240 --> 01:47:39,060
is no middle ground. castrato
streamis, can't straddle. These

1652
01:47:39,060 --> 01:47:43,350
are extremist. Get that through
your thick hair, there is not

1653
01:47:43,380 --> 01:47:48,270
there's gonna be total 100%
compliance, or you're gonna be

1654
01:47:48,270 --> 01:47:48,840
canceled.

1655
01:47:49,950 --> 01:47:54,870
Yeah. And not only do they
Sunny, she know she's part of

1656
01:47:54,870 --> 01:47:55,560
the boulais

1657
01:47:56,700 --> 01:48:00,300
aka haze. And you know, the
things that nature as we heard

1658
01:48:00,300 --> 01:48:05,550
when she was bringing up her
sister, Kamala Harris, um, but

1659
01:48:06,390 --> 01:48:10,800
they say, okay, Sonny had a
piece now let me get a piece.

1660
01:48:11,880 --> 01:48:16,860
Then, look, you know, I lost a
lot of Republican followers and

1661
01:48:16,860 --> 01:48:19,890
people who trusted me in the
republican party because of the

1662
01:48:19,890 --> 01:48:23,550
positions I took against Trump.
And Sonny is right. You've lost

1663
01:48:23,550 --> 01:48:26,580
a lot of people who trusted you,
and who saw you as a voice

1664
01:48:26,580 --> 01:48:29,940
because of the positions you
took during Trump. And in 2016.

1665
01:48:30,780 --> 01:48:34,050
You and I were probably the two
most vocal critics of Trump

1666
01:48:34,410 --> 01:48:37,950
during the campaign on CNN, to
the point where it was reported

1667
01:48:38,160 --> 01:48:41,310
that Jared Kushner went in and
met with executives at our

1668
01:48:41,310 --> 01:48:45,210
parent company and asked that
you and I be fired. And then,

1669
01:48:45,270 --> 01:48:48,780
you know, all of a sudden you
you show up working with

1670
01:48:48,870 --> 01:48:53,010
nepotism, Barbie and nepotism
can work and showing up, you

1671
01:48:53,010 --> 01:48:56,190
know, in pictures with Eric
Trump and with Candace Owens.

1672
01:48:56,400 --> 01:48:59,430
And so I think there's people
who wonder and I'm one of them.

1673
01:48:59,940 --> 01:49:04,320
How did that evolution happen?
How did you go from being this

1674
01:49:04,320 --> 01:49:08,550
very principled critic of the
Trump administration? That was

1675
01:49:08,700 --> 01:49:11,790
to all of a sudden being in the
White House, celebrating the

1676
01:49:11,790 --> 01:49:15,060
wisdom and being you know,
taking posing for pictures with

1677
01:49:15,060 --> 01:49:18,870
Candace Owens? I mean, can you
explain the evolution to people

1678
01:49:18,870 --> 01:49:22,290
who are puzzled by it, but you
did things like take smiling

1679
01:49:22,290 --> 01:49:25,890
pictures with Candace Owens, who
I think is very hurtful. Okay.

1680
01:49:25,920 --> 01:49:27,180
Do you not regret that?

1681
01:49:28,740 --> 01:49:32,040
legitimacy? You don't regret
taking pictures of admiring

1682
01:49:32,040 --> 01:49:33,150
Pinterest with Candace Owens?

1683
01:49:35,730 --> 01:49:40,230
Yeah, I have heard this. There
is you know, you say to a

1684
01:49:41,460 --> 01:49:46,380
to a white girl, Candace Owens.
It's like, I mean, crazy

1685
01:49:46,380 --> 01:49:50,040
millennial, obviously. Right,
right. There's like, what is

1686
01:49:50,040 --> 01:49:53,400
that? What? What is the meme
about her that everyone has to

1687
01:49:53,400 --> 01:49:56,220
hate or what what is what is she
was surprised. I mean, of

1688
01:49:56,220 --> 01:49:56,730
course, we know.

1689
01:49:58,350 --> 01:50:00,000
Well, what are they

1690
01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:03,870
Excuse Van Jones. We know he's a
turncoat. He's a traitor,

1691
01:50:04,080 --> 01:50:08,040
because he took pictures with
with a cannon Barbie. What did

1692
01:50:08,040 --> 01:50:10,770
Candace Owens do? Because she
you want to be completely honest

1693
01:50:10,770 --> 01:50:11,310
with you? Yeah.

1694
01:50:13,710 --> 01:50:17,670
Okay, because this is, this is
not what I think. But this is

1695
01:50:17,670 --> 01:50:21,120
the the you ask the question,
though, how she's portrayed?

1696
01:50:21,180 --> 01:50:24,000
Yeah, she portrayed as the white
man's bad winch.

1697
01:50:25,230 --> 01:50:29,280
Right. Okay. And that, but
that's to do whatever the white

1698
01:50:29,280 --> 01:50:33,690
conservative white men tell her
to do. She'll do it. Why didn't

1699
01:50:33,690 --> 01:50:36,540
she kind of come out? ism goes
out the water

1700
01:50:37,710 --> 01:50:42,240
goes out the window. goes out
the window. Yes, she she kind of

1701
01:50:42,240 --> 01:50:48,630
got thrust onto the scene for a
racism incident at a school,

1702
01:50:49,260 --> 01:50:52,440
which she really didn't even
want any she didn't publicize

1703
01:50:52,440 --> 01:50:56,490
it. That happened outside of
her. And then she kind of went

1704
01:50:56,490 --> 01:51:00,420
okay. And then she saw what kind
of misunderstanding there was

1705
01:51:00,420 --> 01:51:03,810
and she became an activist to
help people understand, you

1706
01:51:03,810 --> 01:51:07,500
know, there was no white, white
push at all. In fact, quite the

1707
01:51:07,500 --> 01:51:11,250
opposite. I think she she came
from very pure, pure motives. Is

1708
01:51:11,250 --> 01:51:14,250
that your understanding of the
truth as well? Well, I saw the

1709
01:51:14,250 --> 01:51:17,700
meteoric rise of Candace Owens,
because I remember when she was

1710
01:51:17,700 --> 01:51:20,760
just popped up my YouTube feed,
but what she does is that black

1711
01:51:20,760 --> 01:51:23,100
woman's that's what Trump or
black woman supports

1712
01:51:23,100 --> 01:51:26,100
conservative kind of, right. She
was very, it was very, like I

1713
01:51:26,100 --> 01:51:29,730
said, very organic. It wasn't
like she came out with a

1714
01:51:29,730 --> 01:51:33,630
polished. It was just kind of
like YouTube videos from home.

1715
01:51:33,780 --> 01:51:36,030
Right? And she would kind of
like it was kind of like that

1716
01:51:36,030 --> 01:51:39,090
walk away kind of vibe while I'm
walking away from the Democratic

1717
01:51:39,090 --> 01:51:42,510
Party. And people thought I
mean, that people saw her as a

1718
01:51:42,510 --> 01:51:46,530
as a as a asset and like, okay,
yeah, I mean, like, she's

1719
01:51:46,530 --> 01:51:51,270
attractive. well spoken. I mean,
she's a she's a beast on the,

1720
01:51:51,270 --> 01:51:54,300
you know, the debate, bet
debate, excuse me, you better

1721
01:51:54,300 --> 01:51:57,690
come correct. Because like, I
mean, she's very come to land on

1722
01:51:57,690 --> 01:52:00,240
facts, she will make you look
stupid if you don't come

1723
01:52:00,240 --> 01:52:03,900
prepared. But the problem is,
and I've said this before about

1724
01:52:03,900 --> 01:52:08,250
candidates, and this is my
timing with her. Like, you don't

1725
01:52:08,250 --> 01:52:11,160
have to talk about George Floyd
and whatever he was doing the

1726
01:52:11,160 --> 01:52:14,460
day after it happened. Now you
can have the, you know, the

1727
01:52:14,460 --> 01:52:17,640
whatever discussions and
discussions probably need to be

1728
01:52:17,640 --> 01:52:21,570
had, but it's about timing,
right. But I would say this is

1729
01:52:21,570 --> 01:52:24,810
just a young person who's an
activist and who has to learn

1730
01:52:24,810 --> 01:52:27,300
about those kinds of things. You
learn about timing from getting

1731
01:52:27,300 --> 01:52:32,280
it wrong. Yeah, but what I'm
saying is that the position she,

1732
01:52:32,580 --> 01:52:35,790
she's in she has very little
room for margin for error.

1733
01:52:36,660 --> 01:52:37,500
Because

1734
01:52:38,790 --> 01:52:41,760
myself, I mean, even myself,
because I don't give a rat's ass

1735
01:52:41,760 --> 01:52:44,970
what people think about me. I
mean, so, but her being on the

1736
01:52:44,970 --> 01:52:48,510
public stage like that, I know,
it hurts her, it hurts her

1737
01:52:48,510 --> 01:52:52,770
feelings. I know it has to but
what she does is she takes that

1738
01:52:52,800 --> 01:52:58,620
energy and life force multiplies
it back at them. Um, which I

1739
01:52:58,620 --> 01:53:00,720
think may be very healthy in the
long term.

1740
01:53:02,550 --> 01:53:05,790
You can't I mean, you just can't
keep ratcheting it up. But um,

1741
01:53:06,240 --> 01:53:10,230
yeah, I think um, but they they
they did this thing with Candace

1742
01:53:10,230 --> 01:53:10,830
Owens.

1743
01:53:12,030 --> 01:53:14,730
But it's not about Candice
Owens. No, you want to hear my

1744
01:53:14,730 --> 01:53:17,490
theory? Sure. I might need a
little theorem for this because

1745
01:53:17,490 --> 01:53:19,980
this is this is a this is a
theory. This is this.

1746
01:53:29,940 --> 01:53:30,990
Under Attack,

1747
01:53:33,330 --> 01:53:34,170
partnership.

1748
01:53:37,980 --> 01:53:43,860
He's dating or possibly dating.
Oh, yeah. I do know this. Wasn't

1749
01:53:43,860 --> 01:53:44,610
he dating?

1750
01:53:46,170 --> 01:53:52,830
Some famous actress. Kim
Kardashian. Okay. Some famous

1751
01:53:53,430 --> 01:53:58,950
not actress. Really now. Ah.
Hearn, here's the story. here's

1752
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the here's the scoop.

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01:54:02,970 --> 01:54:08,250
Oh, Kanye Kimmel breaking up, as
you seen in the news. Yeah. And

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01:54:08,250 --> 01:54:13,800
supposedly, when she was there
visiting with, uh, with that

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01:54:13,800 --> 01:54:14,490
Jared and

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01:54:15,660 --> 01:54:16,470
Ivanka.

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01:54:17,610 --> 01:54:22,380
Parent van, we're getting close.
Hmm. So I think this is a

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01:54:22,380 --> 01:54:26,940
preemptive strike on Kim
Kardashian. Because if you put

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01:54:26,940 --> 01:54:30,840
Van Jones political mind and
political connections behind

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01:54:30,840 --> 01:54:31,950
that Kim Kardashian,

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01:54:33,390 --> 01:54:37,740
California, very dangerous. Oh,
interesting.

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01:54:39,690 --> 01:54:42,090
Yeah, okay. And that's

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01:54:43,230 --> 01:54:46,320
why they take advantage. I mean,
like that happened so many years

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01:54:46,320 --> 01:54:50,460
ago. I mean, it was so long ago.
They didn't even given this kind

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01:54:50,460 --> 01:54:52,890
of energy when the election was
going on. Why are they coming

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01:54:52,890 --> 01:54:55,890
out now but soon as the stories
start coming out about him and

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01:54:55,890 --> 01:55:00,000
Kim Kardashian, um, all of a
sudden

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01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:03,900
A viewer wants to attack him.
Okay.

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01:55:04,920 --> 01:55:08,490
And if cam can walk that line
of, well, we want to help.

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01:55:09,660 --> 01:55:13,200
Yeah, Cam is a force to be
reckoned with.

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01:55:14,370 --> 01:55:17,970
Whoa, what a power couple. I'm
looking at it. That is a super

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01:55:17,970 --> 01:55:23,490
duper power cup. Whoo. So if
that's the case, interest? Yeah.

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01:55:23,940 --> 01:55:27,150
I think I thought yeah, Dan's
not married. Well, he's

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01:55:27,150 --> 01:55:28,710
conveniently getting a divorce.

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01:55:29,820 --> 01:55:30,270
Every

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01:55:31,470 --> 01:55:32,250
recently.

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01:55:34,230 --> 01:55:38,790
Well now, and I can easily see
Kim winning governor of

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01:55:38,790 --> 01:55:39,480
California.

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01:55:40,530 --> 01:55:41,310
Oh, man.

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01:55:42,900 --> 01:55:44,730
You know, cuz Guess what? No,

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01:55:45,990 --> 01:55:48,810
no, I totally agree. I'm just
laughing like, holy crap. But it

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01:55:48,870 --> 01:55:53,340
was fantastic. If you go back
and look at all the videos,

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01:55:53,340 --> 01:55:56,190
guess who was giving her
credibility to her law degree,

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01:55:56,220 --> 01:56:02,010
Van Jones. He had nothing but
kind words to say. And Van Jones

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01:56:02,010 --> 01:56:04,320
is backed by Jay Z. Yeah.

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01:56:05,790 --> 01:56:10,950
So I'm just gonna say that.
Well, you know what? That would

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01:56:10,950 --> 01:56:14,790
be. At least we'd have something
new on the political stage. I

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01:56:14,790 --> 01:56:17,640
know. That'd be great. I don't
really care. If you're

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01:56:17,670 --> 01:56:21,240
Republican, Democrat. Let's just
get some young people in there.

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01:56:21,600 --> 01:56:25,500
Hey, Hello, 40s. Hello, 30s
crit. Let's go crazy. Let's get

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01:56:25,500 --> 01:56:28,500
some younger thinking in there.
And I think that's one good

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01:56:28,500 --> 01:56:32,880
thing about what Donald Trump
did that nothing you can do in

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01:56:32,880 --> 01:56:34,200
your past is probably

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01:56:35,310 --> 01:56:35,850
right, that means

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01:56:36,960 --> 01:56:39,450
you can do it. Yeah, exactly.
Yeah. So now you're gonna open

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01:56:39,450 --> 01:56:42,630
it up to a lot of different
schools of thought to be in

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01:56:42,630 --> 01:56:46,380
politics, because politics used
to be a purity game. Yes. Now

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01:56:46,380 --> 01:56:50,880
with you know, if you can
command the headlines, and you

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01:56:50,880 --> 01:56:56,070
know, and get the people out in
mobile and mobile, right, so, so

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01:56:56,070 --> 01:57:00,420
that wasn't, you know, that was
my first take on one. Linear

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01:57:00,420 --> 01:57:07,290
thinking and individualism. Um,
I think that um, yeah, I mean

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01:57:07,290 --> 01:57:10,080
that I think it's a clear it's
clear attack. You saw they did

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01:57:10,080 --> 01:57:11,700
the van. You saw I did the
horse.

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01:57:13,530 --> 01:57:17,730
Yes. There's no room for there's
no room you saw they did to the

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01:57:17,730 --> 01:57:20,940
teacher? And, excuse me, the
superintendent. Yeah. And in the

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01:57:20,940 --> 01:57:22,590
Bronx, we're not doing the
Wakanda.

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01:57:26,130 --> 01:57:26,430
Man.

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01:57:28,470 --> 01:57:32,520
This is sounding a lot like, you
know, other revolutions that

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01:57:32,520 --> 01:57:37,320
we've seen in the past, where
there's purity test. Yeah. Um,

1810
01:57:37,350 --> 01:57:40,410
but that's what we do here on
the most backs with the Adam

1811
01:57:40,410 --> 01:57:43,650
Curry show. And, hey, yeah, you
want to tell people what we're

1812
01:57:43,650 --> 01:57:46,860
about? Well, here's a little
expander explainer for the white

1813
01:57:46,860 --> 01:57:50,130
man and the black man has to be
able to sit down at the same

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01:57:50,130 --> 01:57:53,340
table, the white man has to feel
free to speak his mind without

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01:57:53,340 --> 01:57:56,220
hurting the feelings about
Negro. And the so called Negro

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01:57:56,220 --> 01:57:58,920
has to feel free to speak his
mind without hurting the

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01:57:58,920 --> 01:58:01,710
feelings of the white man, then
they can bring the issues that

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01:58:01,710 --> 01:58:04,560
are under the rug on top of the
table and take an intelligent

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01:58:04,620 --> 01:58:07,650
approach to get the problem
solved, but the only way to do

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01:58:07,650 --> 01:58:14,130
it. And this is a very popular
idea. It appears as now we see

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01:58:15,600 --> 01:58:19,680
President Barack Obama doing a
podcast with Bruce Springsteen,

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01:58:19,860 --> 01:58:22,590
trying to catch a little bit of
that mo facts with Adam Curry

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01:58:22,590 --> 01:58:23,310
vibe.

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01:58:24,360 --> 01:58:27,960
It's called renegades born in
the USA, which is obviously

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01:58:27,960 --> 01:58:32,580
trolling. We know what he's
doing, right? Never duplicated.

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01:58:32,610 --> 01:58:35,100
That's right. We know what
you're doing, you know, but

1827
01:58:35,100 --> 01:58:38,700
we're not sponsored by dawn or
bounty or whatever. No, we're

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01:58:38,700 --> 01:58:42,840
value for value so we can really
tell it like it is. And that's

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01:58:42,840 --> 01:58:46,170
where we produce it with the
people who listen to the show.

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01:58:47,400 --> 01:58:50,460
It's your ideas, your feedback,
your thoughts, your thinking,

1831
01:58:50,640 --> 01:58:54,540
your experiences that
contribute. Lots of people help

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01:58:54,540 --> 01:58:57,360
out time talent and treasures,
the three T's the value for

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01:58:57,360 --> 01:59:01,200
value model, but really, if you
got any value from this show so

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01:59:01,200 --> 01:59:04,860
far, or any of the previous
ones, you may in fact, moe facts

1835
01:59:04,860 --> 01:59:08,310
is a podcast that is perfect to
go back and start at episode one

1836
01:59:08,310 --> 01:59:11,250
and just catch up because
there's there's so much learning

1837
01:59:11,250 --> 01:59:13,800
and every single one of them,
then just turn that into

1838
01:59:13,800 --> 01:59:16,980
something that you found your
your time equal to. That's what

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01:59:16,980 --> 01:59:19,680
we call value. And it's only for
you to be determined the

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01:59:19,830 --> 01:59:23,670
definition of value can only be
for that. The holder of that

1841
01:59:23,670 --> 01:59:27,000
value and whatever it is, send
it to us. We've got

1842
01:59:28,140 --> 01:59:30,300
a number of people to thank our
executive producers and

1843
01:59:30,300 --> 01:59:33,480
associate executive producers.
It's for episode number 59. And

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01:59:33,480 --> 01:59:37,680
we start off with actually I
think, I think I should have a

1845
01:59:38,280 --> 01:59:43,290
jingle for him. Because whenever
we get the Grand Duke showing up

1846
01:59:43,290 --> 01:59:47,760
ladies and gentlemen, I present
the Grand Duke of the Pacific

1847
01:59:47,760 --> 01:59:53,190
Northwest. So Dwayne Mellon
song, there is Dwayne Melanson

1848
01:59:53,190 --> 01:59:59,820
sending his $321.23 three to
123. And he says keep doing the

1849
01:59:59,820 --> 02:00:00,000
great

1850
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:04,170
work helping us pay attention
Moe karma to you and all of us

1851
02:00:04,170 --> 02:00:07,950
listeners. And what it means is
a big baller. We got to do a big

1852
02:00:07,950 --> 02:00:12,240
baller jingle here. I think I
think from now on whoever comes

1853
02:00:12,240 --> 02:00:13,290
in at the top

1854
02:00:14,340 --> 02:00:17,640
is the big baller for the show.
I like it. So we call him the

1855
02:00:17,640 --> 02:00:20,370
big baller, we needed a sound
effect for the big ball we

1856
02:00:20,370 --> 02:00:21,270
needed. We do.

1857
02:00:22,560 --> 02:00:27,720
Yeah. For last week, it was
inspired by the donation that we

1858
02:00:27,720 --> 02:00:31,680
had last week at the top. So Oh,
I remember what it is. Yes, of

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02:00:31,680 --> 02:00:32,160
course.

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02:00:33,180 --> 02:00:33,870
There we go.

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02:00:35,040 --> 02:00:35,640
Play.

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02:00:44,550 --> 02:00:47,400
This is new in the format. So I
got to make sure I have that set

1863
02:00:47,400 --> 02:00:51,060
up for next week. Okay, good. So
just let people know.

1864
02:00:52,260 --> 02:00:55,350
When you interact with the show,
you can also

1865
02:00:56,400 --> 02:01:00,030
impact Michelle moving forward.
So from that donation that we

1866
02:01:00,030 --> 02:01:03,420
had last week, and inspire me
going to get the big baller

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02:01:03,420 --> 02:01:07,260
clip. And now whoever comes at
the top of the list each week or

1868
02:01:07,290 --> 02:01:11,850
each show, it'll be that you'll
be the big baller. I'd like and

1869
02:01:11,850 --> 02:01:13,110
there's only one big baller

1870
02:01:16,110 --> 02:01:21,750
show like that. All right, so
sir Dwayne Melanson is the is

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02:01:21,780 --> 02:01:25,920
the big baller for Episode
Number 59 and also executive

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02:01:25,920 --> 02:01:30,450
producer along with David Kang
$120. Who says mon Adam, thank

1873
02:01:30,450 --> 02:01:33,300
you for all you do, please D
deadbeat me We can do that.

1874
02:01:35,070 --> 02:01:43,740
Congratulation. You're no longer
a deadbeat from a Korean brother

1875
02:01:43,740 --> 02:01:47,490
from another mother. Yes, we do
suffer from having our own

1876
02:01:47,490 --> 02:01:51,060
boulais Oh, I'll bet they're
called medical professionals.

1877
02:01:54,420 --> 02:01:57,450
By the way, have you seen this
TV ad? I didn't look at that

1878
02:01:57,450 --> 02:02:02,550
one. I did it or not. I'll
discuss it. He's like you too

1879
02:02:02,550 --> 02:02:05,550
deconstructed for my jaw dropped
when I saw this ad. Have you

1880
02:02:05,550 --> 02:02:07,950
also considered deconstructing
the Black Panther movie, which

1881
02:02:07,950 --> 02:02:10,770
we started to do, but I think
that'll be more moving forward.

1882
02:02:10,920 --> 02:02:13,320
I find the messaging in that
movie. Quite interesting. Thank

1883
02:02:13,320 --> 02:02:16,140
you again, David came from West
field, Indiana.

1884
02:02:17,400 --> 02:02:20,670
Okay, so we did we did discuss
the Black Panther a little bit.

1885
02:02:20,940 --> 02:02:23,700
I don't know if he's talking
about the Black Panther movie we

1886
02:02:23,700 --> 02:02:28,050
discussed or he's talking about
the believers Judas and what's

1887
02:02:28,500 --> 02:02:35,970
the name of it? The new one with
a I slipped my mind now. Um,

1888
02:02:37,050 --> 02:02:39,420
anyway, the new black panther
movie that just came out? I

1889
02:02:39,420 --> 02:02:40,860
don't know the actual

1890
02:02:42,120 --> 02:02:45,090
Black Panther Party movie. Yes.
We talked about what the clip he

1891
02:02:45,090 --> 02:02:48,630
sent was. It's it's finally
commercial. And it has a black

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02:02:48,630 --> 02:02:49,320
lady and she's a

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02:02:51,600 --> 02:02:56,040
lady enjoyed rejoicing because
her daughter hands her a

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02:02:57,030 --> 02:02:57,870
sonogram.

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02:02:59,130 --> 02:03:01,170
You know, basically, I'm having
I think you've probably seen

1896
02:03:01,170 --> 02:03:01,650
this commercial.

1897
02:03:02,940 --> 02:03:07,260
Right? But the blurb under the
bottom of the video is father

1898
02:03:07,260 --> 02:03:10,890
shares a heartwarming video of a
couple announcing their

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02:03:10,890 --> 02:03:14,100
pregnancy to their family. The
pharmaceutical company claims

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02:03:14,100 --> 02:03:18,720
that moments like this, these
inspire people to get vaccinated

1901
02:03:19,350 --> 02:03:23,130
against COVID-19 you can go
online to learn more about

1902
02:03:23,130 --> 02:03:23,970
vaccinations.

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02:03:25,650 --> 02:03:29,460
If you want to see your mom
again, in person, take it back.

1904
02:03:29,460 --> 02:03:33,960
You better get a shot. Yeah,
that's a jab, jab, jab, baby.

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02:03:35,250 --> 02:03:39,270
Thank you, David. Thank you for
Yeah, thanks for this.

1906
02:03:40,350 --> 02:03:42,720
Another interesting piece.
Another thing you never would

1907
02:03:42,720 --> 02:03:47,790
have thought of without these
notes, Donald DeHart. $116 just

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02:03:47,790 --> 02:03:52,680
finished all the back episodes.
Wow, so that's 58 back episodes.

1909
02:03:52,680 --> 02:03:57,360
Here's a donation to commemorate
116 he has been doing the work

1910
02:03:59,790 --> 02:04:04,740
good job. All episodes man. He
got it. That's good. I like it.

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02:04:05,640 --> 02:04:10,560
Anthony passando beside no
beside no $100 short notes even

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02:04:10,560 --> 02:04:13,110
Adam can get back to talk and
cool stuff. Well, thank you very

1913
02:04:13,110 --> 02:04:16,830
much. That's always appreciated.
David roll $100 as well. No, no

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02:04:16,830 --> 02:04:20,760
that we could find from him.
Justin Knowlton. $100 very

1915
02:04:20,760 --> 02:04:25,230
appreciated. First time Rona mo
donor. Once you started talking

1916
02:04:25,230 --> 02:04:28,740
about the wire my favorite show.
I knew it was time to pony up.

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Now when I think of Prop Joe
also think of Obama in the quote

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02:04:32,910 --> 02:04:37,560
from DeAngelo Barksdale. The
King say the king, the king stay

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02:04:37,560 --> 02:04:41,100
the king. Yes. Here's a cool
Benjamin request the WUSA and

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02:04:41,100 --> 02:04:43,500
can't wait for the next show.
Well, thank you very much.

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02:04:49,980 --> 02:04:57,540
And we have our first associate
Executive Producer $73.90 overly

1922
02:04:57,540 --> 02:04:59,970
wordy Welshman lives up to his
name

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02:05:00,000 --> 02:05:03,720
Please refer to me as such. This
makes my third donation. Thank

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02:05:03,720 --> 02:05:06,540
you for your continued excellent
work. I will soon be canceling

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02:05:06,540 --> 02:05:10,710
my Amazon Prime account. And so
I'm splitting equivalent yearly

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subscription costs of that
between your fine show and no

1927
02:05:14,190 --> 02:05:18,840
agenda. Thank you. Appreciate
it. That's some that says a lot,

1928
02:05:18,840 --> 02:05:21,270
man. There's a billion dollar
companies and you're taking

1929
02:05:21,270 --> 02:05:24,570
value from them and putting it
into this these independent

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02:05:24,570 --> 02:05:29,280
thing. That's very nice. These
two shows have provided much

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02:05:29,280 --> 02:05:32,970
more entertainment this year
than Amazon Prime's efforts. The

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02:05:32,970 --> 02:05:36,150
rabbit holes those throwaway
references caused me to go down

1933
02:05:36,150 --> 02:05:39,540
are always interesting. First,
the Fabian Society, then the

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02:05:39,540 --> 02:05:42,780
color gi plan, an image popped
in my head while listening to

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02:05:42,780 --> 02:05:45,360
the most recent show. When Moe
and Adam finally meet up in

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02:05:45,360 --> 02:05:49,440
person. It will be like the end
of diehard with Alan john having

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02:05:49,440 --> 02:05:52,680
a big hug after going through
quite the ordeal. One for the

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02:05:52,680 --> 02:05:56,370
animated mo facts perhaps some
karma is always appreciated.

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02:05:56,370 --> 02:05:58,980
Thank you for all your work.
Well, thank you. That's a great

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02:05:58,980 --> 02:06:01,920
note. overly wordy Welshman.
You've got

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02:06:04,950 --> 02:06:05,490
to see that.

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02:06:07,230 --> 02:06:11,460
I can see that. Yeah, I can see
that. That'd be nice. You're

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02:06:11,460 --> 02:06:15,600
right. No one day mo one day
when we can travel again. When

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02:06:15,600 --> 02:06:19,260
the road is gone. Once you get
the jab, he I don't think so.

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Daniel Hollingsworth can call
himself an associate executive

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02:06:24,120 --> 02:06:29,730
producer Episode 59 with $66.33
Cheers. One dose of bad boys.

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Whoo. So please, do we have the
bad boys whoosah it's just the

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booster. It's just that I was
just the ray comes from back

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02:06:35,970 --> 02:06:37,650
home from the bad boy. Oh, I
see.

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I was confused.

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This is something I had in
there.

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02:06:47,220 --> 02:06:50,250
Chris Bailey $59 Thank you
gentlemen for doing the work.

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02:06:50,250 --> 02:06:53,340
Can I get a goat mousse and a
biscuit for my birthday always

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02:06:53,340 --> 02:06:55,500
loving it. Give me a Cisco

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WUSA throw it all in there.

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02:07:02,730 --> 02:07:07,590
Free mo karma. Steven Snedeker
$59 DDB thanks

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02:07:08,850 --> 02:07:11,370
I should know this dead end
baby.

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02:07:13,140 --> 02:07:18,630
Congratulations. You're no
longer a dead bee. We got some

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02:07:18,630 --> 02:07:21,570
good associate executive
producers for this episode. Stay

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warm says Theodora Dorinda
again,

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02:07:25,020 --> 02:07:28,020
again Yeah, again. Yeah. Whoa,
man. What do you pronounce that

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mo pragnya. On on.

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We did a Pronunciation Guide
please. Joe Woods 5859 that will

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that by the way these 59 go
towards episode club and I think

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we'll get you in there as well.
Love most knowledge and atoms

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humility. Thank you very much
very kind of you Joe. Greg fear

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ak $50, an associate executive
producer ship by first donation

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many more to come you both rock
which means I give you a dead

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beating right there.
Congratulations. You're no

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longer a deadbeat. And we've got
Brian Bowser showing up. We've

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02:08:10,830 --> 02:08:15,660
seen him before. I believe mon
Adam. Let's see. I really wanted

1972
02:08:15,660 --> 02:08:19,020
to get engaged with love a chat.
If you think that's possible.

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02:08:19,200 --> 02:08:23,730
Listen to no agenda along with
some other GAVI friends, I guess

1974
02:08:23,760 --> 02:08:29,040
GAVI, government friends, I'm
thinking so i think so to keep

1975
02:08:29,040 --> 02:08:33,150
expanding minds note, please
hold me to this donation to

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02:08:33,150 --> 02:08:35,310
follow but I had to write this
now because I keep getting

1977
02:08:35,310 --> 02:08:38,280
caught up in other things, and
another episode is arrived. I

1978
02:08:38,280 --> 02:08:40,680
know the capital Riot was
discussed in the last show or

1979
02:08:40,680 --> 02:08:43,560
so. And I immediately knew there
was an oddity that was either

1980
02:08:43,560 --> 02:08:48,150
mine alone or truly widespread.
I would love for you to see if

1981
02:08:48,150 --> 02:08:51,090
this is true. beyond my
observations, quote, white

1982
02:08:51,090 --> 02:08:54,450
people don't care about random
or even marginally impactful

1983
02:08:54,450 --> 02:08:58,560
white people getting killed. And
quote, I know this sounds harsh,

1984
02:08:58,560 --> 02:09:02,250
but we have no community. I get
it. I may be an oddball, but I

1985
02:09:02,250 --> 02:09:05,220
think the evidence supports
this. The show was great and a

1986
02:09:05,220 --> 02:09:08,640
true labor of worth. I would
love to discuss many other

1987
02:09:08,640 --> 02:09:12,300
things and possibly even work
life horror or interest stories.

1988
02:09:12,540 --> 02:09:15,630
I will gladly share more info my
past and present careers and

1989
02:09:15,630 --> 02:09:18,480
hope to chat and build many
things. Well, Brian, thank you

1990
02:09:18,480 --> 02:09:23,040
very much. I don't know about
this, about this quote. But

1991
02:09:23,190 --> 02:09:27,480
he's, I think he's talking about
the I always forget her name.

1992
02:09:27,930 --> 02:09:28,770
The lady got

1993
02:09:30,180 --> 02:09:34,080
killed at the Capitol, and how
no one cared, really. And

1994
02:09:34,080 --> 02:09:36,990
really, it was like, all she got
was coming to her. So I think

1995
02:09:36,990 --> 02:09:37,710
that's what he means.

1996
02:09:39,390 --> 02:09:43,230
Excuse me badly. I always forget
her name. Sorry about that. Um,

1997
02:09:43,230 --> 02:09:48,090
but yeah, I think that's what he
means by marginally impactful

1998
02:09:48,090 --> 02:09:53,160
white people get getting killed.
So it was safer answers if you

1999
02:09:53,160 --> 02:09:57,390
juxtapose her to like a George
Floyd, even though you know, I

2000
02:09:57,390 --> 02:09:59,970
mean, how all the outrage
happened on your own

2001
02:10:00,000 --> 02:10:03,180
I'm also speaking I'm just
hypothetically speaking Are you

2002
02:10:03,180 --> 02:10:07,770
know, yeah, the media algos,
which is not just social media,

2003
02:10:08,040 --> 02:10:11,910
but all media algos are not
geared for that. They don't

2004
02:10:11,910 --> 02:10:12,840
respond to it.

2005
02:10:13,889 --> 02:10:15,689
But they also don't respond to

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02:10:17,550 --> 02:10:21,420
20 people getting shot in
Chicago on a weekend. Nope. The

2007
02:10:21,420 --> 02:10:25,050
algo responds to things that can
trigger another algo and then

2008
02:10:25,050 --> 02:10:28,590
trigger people's action to stuff
that's that's what it is.

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02:10:30,270 --> 02:10:33,150
Why don't white crime rate
trending? That's what it is. No,

2010
02:10:33,150 --> 02:10:34,470
it's not what it's not

2011
02:10:37,320 --> 02:10:42,000
yet well, a one party be super
attractive. That's, that's

2012
02:10:43,590 --> 02:10:48,870
your face or face your face. Oh,
man. All right, thanks, Brian.

2013
02:10:49,500 --> 02:10:53,970
Steve Marquis $50. No, no, we
thank you Steve. Ichi Kitagawa,

2014
02:10:54,630 --> 02:10:58,050
sir h of SF thank you for the
great work no jingles no karmi

2015
02:10:58,050 --> 02:11:02,280
says and Hans is $50 we
appreciate that value. And here

2016
02:11:02,280 --> 02:11:05,910
is Greg back again. So I think
Greg it will be

2017
02:11:07,020 --> 02:11:11,370
an executive producer since his
total is $100. For the for the

2018
02:11:12,420 --> 02:11:15,630
end he says this is my second
donation many more to come. I

2019
02:11:15,630 --> 02:11:17,100
follow the Ron mo path.

2020
02:11:18,210 --> 02:11:20,910
Mo I love the weave of
information you make you really

2021
02:11:20,910 --> 02:11:23,730
have a knack for getting your
point across in a thorough and

2022
02:11:23,730 --> 02:11:26,940
very convincing way. Adam, you
are the voice of my childhood

2023
02:11:26,940 --> 02:11:29,910
this I'm an MTV kid and now
you're the voice of my adulthood

2024
02:11:29,910 --> 02:11:35,880
post Rona post Rona. Yeah. Mo
facts have no agenda. Right,

2025
02:11:36,090 --> 02:11:40,470
right. prime prime Coronavirus
prime real prime rotor time mo

2026
02:11:40,470 --> 02:11:43,440
facts nogen have been a big help
wading through all the M five m

2027
02:11:43,440 --> 02:11:47,640
bullcrap thanks for the heavy
meta to you fellows PS any more

2028
02:11:47,640 --> 02:11:50,820
facts meetups not yet. We're
getting there. Although the

2029
02:11:50,850 --> 02:11:54,210
always seems to be one in the DC
area that none of us have gone

2030
02:11:54,210 --> 02:11:54,930
to yet.

2031
02:11:56,010 --> 02:12:00,510
We're planning on it. Dodge
Gaskill Dodger here another no

2032
02:12:00,510 --> 02:12:04,020
agenda producer mildly migrating
to your podcast. You and Adam do

2033
02:12:04,020 --> 02:12:06,810
a great job from believer in the
value for value system and he

2034
02:12:06,810 --> 02:12:10,680
proves it. Thank you very much
dodge Elvis Rosenberg. There he

2035
02:12:10,680 --> 02:12:13,320
is Chef Elvis. $50. Want to
cancel cannon.

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02:12:16,830 --> 02:12:22,770
There it is. JOHN Nathan $50.
Thanks, man. Oh yes, he's sole

2037
02:12:22,770 --> 02:12:27,840
proprietor, you the king. And
that wraps up our executive and

2038
02:12:27,840 --> 02:12:30,870
associate executive producers
and the big baller for Episode

2039
02:12:30,870 --> 02:12:33,990
59 of Moe facts with Adam Curry,
we thank all of you for the

2040
02:12:33,990 --> 02:12:37,830
support, we'll thank the rest of
the donors. Just before we end

2041
02:12:37,830 --> 02:12:41,100
the show, if you'd like to
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2042
02:12:41,100 --> 02:12:44,940
value that we that we operate on
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2043
02:12:44,970 --> 02:12:49,860
mo fax comm you can go directly
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2044
02:12:49,860 --> 02:12:56,400
fax. Sorry, it's mo fund
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2045
02:12:56,400 --> 02:13:01,530
you to our execs and associate
execs for producing Episode 59.

2046
02:13:04,290 --> 02:13:05,970
But speaking of Kanye

2047
02:13:07,890 --> 02:13:10,560
as it so happens, yeah, um,

2048
02:13:11,910 --> 02:13:14,910
he's from the future. He called
this.

2049
02:13:16,170 --> 02:13:19,560
And we can just get right into
22. And it's a throwback clip

2050
02:13:19,560 --> 02:13:23,670
from show 13. If you talk about
politics, then you are not a

2051
02:13:23,670 --> 02:13:26,670
service to Christ, but to mute.

2052
02:13:28,140 --> 02:13:33,900
And African Americans voice at
this level is a form of slavery.

2053
02:13:34,500 --> 02:13:40,710
And being a slave to the system,
and to people's perceptions. And

2054
02:13:40,710 --> 02:13:44,280
the reality of what people have
chosen for our culture, since we

2055
02:13:44,280 --> 02:13:49,230
are orphans is not in service to
God. And in the Bible, there's

2056
02:13:49,230 --> 02:13:54,510
many topics of slavery, and we
are African Americans. And we

2057
02:13:54,510 --> 02:13:58,890
are still dealing with modern
day slavery. We still have

2058
02:13:58,890 --> 02:14:05,370
record contracts, publishing
deals, touring deals, management

2059
02:14:05,370 --> 02:14:08,640
deals, radio deals,

2060
02:14:10,560 --> 02:14:12,510
that we not the owners.

2061
02:14:15,120 --> 02:14:19,770
Until we really own our own
community really make Wakanda

2062
02:14:20,970 --> 02:14:24,750
for real, it's gonna take more
than the Jesus shape. We got to

2063
02:14:24,750 --> 02:14:27,060
make what kind of product with
us too, though, you know what

2064
02:14:27,060 --> 02:14:28,800
I'm saying, Man I've been
waiting for.

2065
02:14:30,780 --> 02:14:33,870
You see how pervasive this will
compensate this is Yeah.

2066
02:14:35,580 --> 02:14:38,940
But he as he says that if you
don't control and this is what

2067
02:14:38,940 --> 02:14:43,530
the hurt arm. Think is
Hershkowitz thing. Yes, her

2068
02:14:43,530 --> 02:14:47,910
skin, her skin hurt. herskovits
excuse me, um, if you don't

2069
02:14:47,910 --> 02:14:51,180
define or if you're not defining
the culture or the people who

2070
02:14:51,750 --> 02:14:54,930
work for you. Yep. Yeah. And
that's what he's experiencing

2071
02:14:54,960 --> 02:14:55,560
and

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02:14:57,450 --> 02:14:59,970
he was kind of speaking to vanch
I was in a roundabout

2073
02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:03,330
Wait, you're gonna be you're
gonna be you're gonna be

2074
02:15:03,330 --> 02:15:09,780
cancelled if you don't submit
and in the next clip, he makes a

2075
02:15:11,580 --> 02:15:13,980
prophetic statement. I want to
say one thing about calling in

2076
02:15:13,980 --> 02:15:16,680
for move on. I want to be
praying for that brother because

2077
02:15:16,710 --> 02:15:21,060
I know this whole Kim Kardashian
paid and they're gonna try to

2078
02:15:21,060 --> 02:15:24,150
crack him with this. They are
sitting around licking their

2079
02:15:24,150 --> 02:15:28,860
chops right now when I mean they
the entertainment media. Yeah,

2080
02:15:29,760 --> 02:15:33,720
they're already they're gonna
drag him. No, this This is

2081
02:15:33,720 --> 02:15:40,860
nothing. I'm talking about two
levels. Path Bill Cosby. I mean,

2082
02:15:40,860 --> 02:15:45,540
you they're gonna mean because
they had to take him down. They

2083
02:15:45,540 --> 02:15:49,080
have they have to take either
free man thinking free man

2084
02:15:49,080 --> 02:15:54,540
talking. And that is totally off
code. Yeah, so the prayers for

2085
02:15:54,540 --> 02:15:58,860
Begley because that's going to
be very, very hard for him. Yes,

2086
02:15:59,040 --> 02:16:01,620
so I just want to say that but
luckily he

2087
02:16:02,670 --> 02:16:05,820
he's he's seems to be strong in
his faith now. So hopefully that

2088
02:16:06,030 --> 02:16:09,060
person that that helps him get
through this time. But in this

2089
02:16:09,060 --> 02:16:13,440
next clip, he speaks about one
of the things on the list, and

2090
02:16:13,440 --> 02:16:17,550
that's the cancelling of
Christianity and Christ. Are you

2091
02:16:17,550 --> 02:16:22,110
afraid of losing your audience?
Yay. I told you I'm only afraid

2092
02:16:22,110 --> 02:16:26,430
of God. I'm only afraid of my
daddy God. And I'm been 15 years

2093
02:16:26,430 --> 02:16:31,230
I'm telling you, God is showing
that you can have your own

2094
02:16:31,260 --> 02:16:34,830
thoughts bro. I've been cast
before that was canceled

2095
02:16:34,830 --> 02:16:40,290
culture. Who told you that my
career would be over the same

2096
02:16:40,290 --> 02:16:43,320
people that are telling you that
you can't have a right to say

2097
02:16:43,320 --> 02:16:46,500
who you will vote for those
people will be soon to take

2098
02:16:46,500 --> 02:16:49,680
Jesus out to school. Those
people will be soon to remove

2099
02:16:49,680 --> 02:16:54,810
Jesus period from America, which
is the Bible Belt. Those people

2100
02:16:54,810 --> 02:16:59,130
will be so mad Come on, man. I'm
finna go Alex Jones. man Come on

2101
02:16:59,130 --> 02:16:59,430
man.

2102
02:17:00,510 --> 02:17:06,900
Like wake up wake up Mr. West
wake up culture. Wake up. I

2103
02:17:06,900 --> 02:17:09,510
think they so woke but they
following the rules of what woke

2104
02:17:09,510 --> 02:17:13,830
supposed to be hip hop a never
been about following rules. It's

2105
02:17:13,830 --> 02:17:16,050
been about doing what you feel.
I'm gonna take the Louis I'm

2106
02:17:17,040 --> 02:17:19,740
gonna do with the Polo I'ma do
it like this. Even like the way

2107
02:17:19,740 --> 02:17:22,800
I put on, let me use my African
American voice. Let me use my

2108
02:17:22,800 --> 02:17:26,280
Disney approved voice. Let me
hear I'm saying we're not even

2109
02:17:26,280 --> 02:17:30,750
speaking in our own language,
bro. Like, we talk louder than

2110
02:17:30,750 --> 02:17:35,220
this African stuck on Italian
moms talk loud. We talk louder,

2111
02:17:35,310 --> 02:17:38,250
but we speak in our corporate
voice or we don't want to ruin

2112
02:17:38,250 --> 02:17:40,290
the deal voice or this one.

2113
02:17:42,510 --> 02:17:47,400
I love y'all, man. And I love
me. And I love Christ.

2114
02:17:48,810 --> 02:17:51,360
And you also love to see this.
I'm not gonna tell y'all what

2115
02:17:51,360 --> 02:17:54,300
y'all should do. I'm just doing
what I do. If you love it, then

2116
02:17:54,300 --> 02:17:58,920
cool. If y'all want to meet in a
go make a difference. Honestly,

2117
02:17:59,160 --> 02:18:05,070
I haven't been killed so many
times on social media. And I'm

2118
02:18:05,070 --> 02:18:07,050
still here, I'll still look at
me.

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02:18:09,840 --> 02:18:13,800
I love that clubs. One of my
favorites. I say y'all are being

2120
02:18:13,800 --> 02:18:14,280
woke.

2121
02:18:15,420 --> 02:18:20,250
But by the rules are being woke.
And that's what this document

2122
02:18:20,250 --> 02:18:24,390
that came out from the Museum of
American History. That is the

2123
02:18:24,390 --> 02:18:29,520
rules for being woke. Gotta get
rid of this scientific method,

2124
02:18:29,520 --> 02:18:33,090
rational thinking individualism,
hard work, and forth on that

2125
02:18:33,090 --> 02:18:38,130
list is Christianity and Christ.
Yeah. So this is not about I

2126
02:18:38,130 --> 02:18:42,780
mean, this is not about
religion. This is about taking

2127
02:18:42,780 --> 02:18:47,940
one of the foundations of
America and foundations of

2128
02:18:49,290 --> 02:18:54,270
this is about taking away one of
the bedrocks of a large portion

2129
02:18:54,270 --> 02:19:01,500
of America, canceling it this
very disruptive. And on cue,

2130
02:19:02,190 --> 02:19:07,590
Shaun King comes in. Oh Jesus,
no, Jesus Christ. Watch out

2131
02:19:07,620 --> 02:19:10,710
because Shaun King is coming
this week. Trans racial civil

2132
02:19:10,710 --> 02:19:13,440
rights activist Shaun King are
some of you know Kalka, Max

2133
02:19:13,440 --> 02:19:14,130
tried to cancel the

2134
02:19:15,750 --> 02:19:21,000
evil racist of them all. Jesus.
Yeah, shamrock. Obama tried to

2135
02:19:21,000 --> 02:19:23,490
take down the King of kings, the
white one specifically

2136
02:19:23,490 --> 02:19:26,070
Unfortunately for him. He's 2000
years later, what's commonly

2137
02:19:26,070 --> 02:19:30,000
referred to as CPT. Al Sharpton
tweeted the statues of the white

2138
02:19:30,000 --> 02:19:32,940
European Jesus should come down.
They're a form of white

2139
02:19:32,940 --> 02:19:35,610
supremacy and always have been,
first of all, for someone who

2140
02:19:35,610 --> 02:19:38,220
crucifies white people for a
living. I assume he appreciate

2141
02:19:38,220 --> 02:19:41,550
the imagery. Secondly, he kind
of has appoint certain groups of

2142
02:19:41,550 --> 02:19:44,700
youth Christianity to oppress
people, slave traders that kkk

2143
02:19:44,700 --> 02:19:49,110
jewelers, but White is always a
form of white supremacy Martin

2144
02:19:49,110 --> 02:19:52,890
Luther cream, what the fuck are
you talking about? Sean says in

2145
02:19:52,890 --> 02:19:55,920
the Bible when Jesus wants to
hide he went to Egypt, not

2146
02:19:55,920 --> 02:19:59,220
Denmark. That is true probably
because Denmark didn't exist.

2147
02:19:59,280 --> 02:19:59,790
But I think

2148
02:20:00,000 --> 02:20:02,790
Revelation there good
marshmallow was trying to make

2149
02:20:02,790 --> 02:20:07,800
is that Jesus wasn't white. Hey,
Shawn, no shit.

2150
02:20:13,559 --> 02:20:13,979
So

2151
02:20:15,210 --> 02:20:16,440
let me just say this

2152
02:20:18,210 --> 02:20:22,800
if whiteness was a commodity or
stock I'll be going short on

2153
02:20:22,800 --> 02:20:27,090
white right now. Oh, yeah. Oh,
yeah. Put a bit of put put up

2154
02:20:27,090 --> 02:20:30,780
short on wise is very short on
white a lot a lot go long gone

2155
02:20:30,780 --> 02:20:33,840
brown Yeah, because I mean
that's that's that's the up

2156
02:20:33,840 --> 02:20:38,910
income if you compare like
cashed to like a crypto right

2157
02:20:38,940 --> 02:20:42,330
Brown is the crypto right? So
it's gaining is gaining is

2158
02:20:42,330 --> 02:20:47,010
gaining a lot of value right
now. And I'm not talking about

2159
02:20:47,400 --> 02:20:51,240
per se color. I'm talking about
these groups that are being

2160
02:20:51,240 --> 02:20:54,420
defined by the East Coast like
color revolution kind of thing,

2161
02:20:54,570 --> 02:21:02,100
not literal color. But the only
problem is black value is rarely

2162
02:21:02,100 --> 02:21:07,800
tied to white value, right?
Because we helped build this

2163
02:21:07,800 --> 02:21:10,320
country that these people are
trying to tear it out. And it's

2164
02:21:10,320 --> 02:21:13,080
like what, wait, hold on. You
want to do what to America?

2165
02:21:13,260 --> 02:21:18,300
Yeah. It puts us in a weird
spot. Cuz it's like, Yeah, we

2166
02:21:18,300 --> 02:21:20,550
got some beef with a we
understand, you know, I mean,

2167
02:21:21,180 --> 02:21:25,740
they still owe us our atonement,
but you want to burn it down.

2168
02:21:26,430 --> 02:21:31,620
Yeah. And so now you have a fork
and blackness. You have half the

2169
02:21:31,620 --> 02:21:34,410
black to want to go with but I
was gonna I was gonna ask you

2170
02:21:34,410 --> 02:21:36,330
what do you think that
percentage is? Mo? I mean,

2171
02:21:36,330 --> 02:21:39,720
that's, I mean, how big is
taking the voting numbers? Let's

2172
02:21:39,720 --> 02:21:42,120
just take the voting numbers.
Thanks, Tony. wailing you found

2173
02:21:42,120 --> 02:21:45,210
the numbers. No, no, no, I'm
saying the numbers that they

2174
02:21:45,210 --> 02:21:48,720
said. If they said twice the
turnout for Trump, then last

2175
02:21:48,720 --> 02:21:52,230
year, so we can leave kill off
bad. Right. Okay. All right. Why

2176
02:21:52,230 --> 02:21:55,740
don't we have a baseline from
2016? Yeah, yeah. So they keep

2177
02:21:55,740 --> 02:21:59,640
saying this twice. Number. So if
you say they say at 20.

2178
02:22:01,230 --> 02:22:08,640
But AB is mean to 20? You have
some big banking that 20? Yeah,

2179
02:22:08,970 --> 02:22:13,200
you have some big names in that.
20. And then we really don't

2180
02:22:13,200 --> 02:22:17,370
know if it's at 20 or not,
because the silent majority is

2181
02:22:17,370 --> 02:22:22,110
on the sidelines be much bigger.
Yeah. Right. So all I'm just

2182
02:22:22,110 --> 02:22:26,280
saying is that if you you're
asking me to?

2183
02:22:27,690 --> 02:22:30,180
If Okay, do you say they're
trying to cut a deal with me?

2184
02:22:30,180 --> 02:22:32,730
And they say, Oh, come on, come
on. Come on browser, nothing.

2185
02:22:32,730 --> 02:22:33,300
Come on. I mean,

2186
02:22:34,860 --> 02:22:38,040
why would sell 20th century?
Come on, come on into the 21st

2187
02:22:38,040 --> 02:22:43,470
century. And it's like, Yeah,
but what about this bill that we

2188
02:22:43,470 --> 02:22:43,860
have?

2189
02:22:46,050 --> 02:22:49,140
met Bill, man, did you read that
HR? 40

2190
02:22:50,160 --> 02:22:51,060
bullcrap.

2191
02:22:52,200 --> 02:22:57,660
I mean, it really is. It really
is. It's so open to interpret to

2192
02:22:57,660 --> 02:23:00,840
end. And it seems like they want
to spend a lot this is what I

2193
02:23:00,840 --> 02:23:03,780
was worried about. I'm glad
we're talking about for a second

2194
02:23:04,380 --> 02:23:08,460
is this whole section in there,
which we've seen this hr 40 come

2195
02:23:08,460 --> 02:23:12,660
by before, but this is a little
new, when it wants to do a study

2196
02:23:12,690 --> 02:23:15,660
of the actual enslavement.

2197
02:23:17,160 --> 02:23:20,730
And I think you'll find that it
wasn't a lot of American sailing

2198
02:23:20,730 --> 02:23:21,480
ships

2199
02:23:22,560 --> 02:23:27,450
that were doing the the
transport and those boats

2200
02:23:29,850 --> 02:23:30,660
to get me castle.

2201
02:23:32,670 --> 02:23:35,580
Castle, castle castle, but you
know what, I'm gonna do it.

2202
02:23:35,580 --> 02:23:36,630
Nothing to show all

2203
02:23:40,530 --> 02:23:45,840
right here, this might get a I
mean, like, yeah, I'm just what

2204
02:23:45,840 --> 02:23:48,540
I'm reading. I'm just telling
you what I'm reading. I'm

2205
02:23:48,570 --> 02:23:53,340
picking up what you're putting
down. Okay, on the boats. Right?

2206
02:23:54,150 --> 02:23:58,020
If the boats even existed, I
mean, we don't go there. Let's

2207
02:23:58,020 --> 02:24:01,410
just even do that one. Yeah, I
love man. We got to do a whole

2208
02:24:01,410 --> 02:24:07,230
episode on that. If the boats
existed love it. Yes. So um, but

2209
02:24:07,230 --> 02:24:10,650
yeah, it's that they're coming
to me and say, Oh, come on.

2210
02:24:11,010 --> 02:24:14,940
Invest in brown. Yeah, no, no,
no, you know, I say go short on

2211
02:24:14,940 --> 02:24:15,300
white.

2212
02:24:16,560 --> 02:24:20,250
Invest in brown. It's the new
thing. But

2213
02:24:21,480 --> 02:24:26,100
I'm old in white coin. Right. So
you know,

2214
02:24:27,240 --> 02:24:30,990
you don't want the white coin to
go away? No, because Are you

2215
02:24:30,990 --> 02:24:32,310
going to inherit their debt?

2216
02:24:34,020 --> 02:24:36,480
Right. I'm not talking about me
specifically, but I'm saying me

2217
02:24:36,480 --> 02:24:40,320
as a black person. Like, this is
the thing we put it out on the

2218
02:24:40,320 --> 02:24:43,020
table. This is the thing with
Marxism. It's why they keep

2219
02:24:43,020 --> 02:24:46,710
coming with Marxism. Communism.
You know? Why? You know, never.

2220
02:24:46,950 --> 02:24:49,680
Capitalism never worked out for
you black people, you know, I

2221
02:24:49,680 --> 02:24:53,730
mean, so it's like, okay, but
what's my standing in this new

2222
02:24:53,730 --> 02:24:55,290
society? You're trying to form?
Yeah.

2223
02:24:56,310 --> 02:24:58,860
We're all be equal. Yeah, all of
us have nothing.

2224
02:25:02,250 --> 02:25:05,580
Yeah, we kind of like the idea
of the promise better.

2225
02:25:06,750 --> 02:25:09,360
Yeah, the thing is I can

2226
02:25:11,160 --> 02:25:11,610
Yeah.

2227
02:25:12,840 --> 02:25:17,970
I just this is a very hard sale.
Yeah. Cuz I it's clear cut my

2228
02:25:17,970 --> 02:25:18,510
case.

2229
02:25:19,590 --> 02:25:22,950
If you want to hear the case go
back to 50 my case against you

2230
02:25:22,950 --> 02:25:24,450
know, the institution

2231
02:25:25,650 --> 02:25:27,660
or the country of America is
quite clear.

2232
02:25:29,970 --> 02:25:32,790
With this, it's like a just take
a leap of faith and we'll get

2233
02:25:32,790 --> 02:25:36,960
you good on the back end. Yeah.
For we've heard that one before.

2234
02:25:37,140 --> 02:25:41,220
Yeah. And then the way they rule
I can't I can't rock with that.

2235
02:25:41,580 --> 02:25:45,240
But yeah, but crisis aren't
crisis on the hit list. Clearly.

2236
02:25:45,270 --> 02:25:49,620
Um, so if, why Jesus is gonna be
taken out.

2237
02:25:50,670 --> 02:25:53,430
Is it possible you could talk
about a black Jesus, similar

2238
02:25:53,430 --> 02:25:54,180
Jesus?

2239
02:25:56,130 --> 02:25:56,850
And goodbye.

2240
02:26:00,000 --> 02:26:02,640
I had him in the closet. We
weren't performing no miracles

2241
02:26:02,640 --> 02:26:03,360
for nobody.

2242
02:26:07,920 --> 02:26:12,900
Jesus came alongside, forget it.
The only Jesus I know is him.

2243
02:26:13,080 --> 02:26:15,600
And the one thing you don't need
is a partner.

2244
02:26:19,980 --> 02:26:22,800
This picture has been in my
family for as long as I can

2245
02:26:22,800 --> 02:26:26,610
remember. When I was a baby, I
don't know what I saw first. My

2246
02:26:26,610 --> 02:26:31,590
mama my papa or this Jesus. He
is the one I know and love. So

2247
02:26:31,590 --> 02:26:33,000
let's close the subject.

2248
02:26:34,080 --> 02:26:38,340
Jesus was black the Bible with a
sense Oh, so what are you

2249
02:26:38,340 --> 02:26:39,180
talking about?

2250
02:26:41,160 --> 02:26:45,510
I read about it. In Revelation
chapter one. Verse 14 says

2251
02:26:49,200 --> 02:26:51,090
his hair is like wool.

2252
02:27:14,340 --> 02:27:17,160
We know Jesus wasn't black. He
could have been from the lost

2253
02:27:17,160 --> 02:27:19,560
tribe of Israel. They were
supposed to be black.

2254
02:27:21,510 --> 02:27:22,200
People would know

2255
02:27:25,800 --> 02:27:32,940
why Wow. Don't 70 don't hear
that anymore. Do ya? 1970s Wow,

2256
02:27:33,360 --> 02:27:34,860
I'm just gonna ask this
question.

2257
02:27:36,150 --> 02:27:41,130
Chinese got Chinese Jesus.
Everybody got their own when he

2258
02:27:41,130 --> 02:27:43,470
ever you make Jesus a black
person

2259
02:27:44,520 --> 02:27:48,420
is so upsetting to certain
certain certain group of people.

2260
02:27:50,430 --> 02:27:53,460
I don't understand that. And
what you do is you opened up a

2261
02:27:53,460 --> 02:27:56,910
door for Sean Kane to make an
argument they say get rid of

2262
02:27:56,910 --> 02:28:01,380
Jesus. What No, we Yeah, because
like you heard Florida. Let me

2263
02:28:01,380 --> 02:28:03,870
give a little background that
was from the good Tom show. I

2264
02:28:03,870 --> 02:28:06,660
didn't set it up too well, but
that was from the good Tom show.

2265
02:28:06,660 --> 02:28:12,150
And JJ had painted an image of a
black Jesus. And Michael being

2266
02:28:12,480 --> 02:28:16,050
reminded me of me, Miami of a
young man who

2267
02:28:17,970 --> 02:28:21,600
went and hung it up to the white
Jesus down, right. And his mom

2268
02:28:21,600 --> 02:28:25,110
said, You heard what Florida
Evans said. I don't know who I

2269
02:28:25,110 --> 02:28:27,450
saw first white Jesus. Yeah.

2270
02:28:28,800 --> 02:28:33,150
Right. Right. So what I'm saying
is this that opens the case UP

2271
02:28:33,150 --> 02:28:37,530
TO SAY THEY uses white really
white man religion to slave you.

2272
02:28:37,710 --> 02:28:38,460
You're saying

2273
02:28:39,780 --> 02:28:44,040
yeah, it's time to rebrand it's
time

2274
02:28:47,130 --> 02:28:50,880
to repackage but um, but why is
it so infuriating? I don't

2275
02:28:50,880 --> 02:28:53,820
understand. Like I say when you
go to China, you have Chinese

2276
02:28:53,820 --> 02:28:57,690
Jesus you go to any other
culture you have matching of

2277
02:28:57,690 --> 02:29:02,070
that culture. But if for one
reason or another like I said

2278
02:29:02,070 --> 02:29:05,310
1970s and late I'm surprised
leader let them on television. I

2279
02:29:05,310 --> 02:29:08,880
mean, I gotta give him props for
that, you know? Um, that had to

2280
02:29:08,880 --> 02:29:12,930
be very brave. A lot more back
then you can't do anything

2281
02:29:12,930 --> 02:29:17,100
anymore. Why is that why are we
going backwards? If we're more

2282
02:29:17,100 --> 02:29:20,160
free than we would have been
going backwards because the

2283
02:29:20,160 --> 02:29:24,420
advertisers have more power and
advertisers want zeros zeros

2284
02:29:24,420 --> 02:29:28,260
zero controversy. No bad
feelings. everybody happy?

2285
02:29:30,090 --> 02:29:34,560
Yeah, that means that the basis
of it but then he saw I'm just

2286
02:29:34,560 --> 02:29:35,580
saying so.

2287
02:29:37,590 --> 02:29:41,880
It just it just perplexes me
anytime. We're in a spiral I

2288
02:29:41,880 --> 02:29:46,170
mean, now that we have social
media, and the the tools have

2289
02:29:46,170 --> 02:29:49,350
been developed and sharpened to
people know how to do it. You

2290
02:29:49,350 --> 02:29:52,530
just go after the advertiser and
say, Hey, advertiser, I can't

2291
02:29:52,530 --> 02:29:55,380
believe you're advertising on
this show. Oh, we're gonna

2292
02:29:55,380 --> 02:29:58,680
cancel you Oh, we're gonna make
a problem for you. And then that

2293
02:29:58,680 --> 02:30:00,000
immediately is taken

2294
02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:05,190
taken care of by canceling the
media by whatever has to happen

2295
02:30:05,190 --> 02:30:09,390
making a stand making an
apology. It's pressure, it's

2296
02:30:09,390 --> 02:30:13,590
bullying, it's really bullying.
And let me say one thing, when I

2297
02:30:13,590 --> 02:30:17,520
say when I say the American
Museum when they say talk about

2298
02:30:17,520 --> 02:30:19,920
getting rid of Christianity,
they're not talking about

2299
02:30:19,920 --> 02:30:20,670
Catholicism.

2300
02:30:22,650 --> 02:30:24,720
No, they're not. That's not what
they're talking about. Cuz the

2301
02:30:24,720 --> 02:30:28,410
pope is bought in. He's read
into the plan. Here, they're

2302
02:30:28,410 --> 02:30:34,320
talking about the Bible. And
it's a large enough segment, I'm

2303
02:30:34,320 --> 02:30:37,500
not gonna say law, but large
enough. Oh, black people

2304
02:30:38,760 --> 02:30:41,460
that feel that we have some time
to that book.

2305
02:30:43,710 --> 02:30:47,790
That when you come for that, I
think that's gonna be that's

2306
02:30:47,790 --> 02:30:49,320
gonna be overreach.

2307
02:30:50,340 --> 02:30:55,920
Because, as you heard in the
1970s, people saw my black Jesus

2308
02:30:55,920 --> 02:31:01,830
and the last child, Israel. And
then we have Malcolm X, speaking

2309
02:31:01,830 --> 02:31:04,350
on a Moses, Jesus in jail.

2310
02:31:10,260 --> 02:31:14,040
Why you haven't got a man of God
in the Bible? That wasn't what

2311
02:31:14,040 --> 02:31:16,500
the jail when they started
speaking up against

2312
02:31:16,500 --> 02:31:17,520
exploitation.

2313
02:31:19,830 --> 02:31:22,650
They charged Jesus with
sedition.

2314
02:31:23,760 --> 02:31:24,960
Didn't they do that?

2315
02:31:26,340 --> 02:31:27,570
They said he was the king.

2316
02:31:29,790 --> 02:31:33,480
They said he was discriminating
because he told us to the

2317
02:31:33,840 --> 02:31:38,640
disciples, so not the way of the
Gentiles, but rather go to the

2318
02:31:38,640 --> 02:31:43,920
lost sheep. He discriminate,
don't go near the Gentiles, go

2319
02:31:43,920 --> 02:31:48,840
to the lush sheep, go to your
friends, go to the downtrodden,

2320
02:31:49,290 --> 02:31:52,530
go through the exploited, go to
the people who don't know who

2321
02:31:52,530 --> 02:31:56,430
they are, who are lost from the
knowledge of themselves, and who

2322
02:31:56,430 --> 02:32:00,510
are strangers in the land that
is not there. Go to those people

2323
02:32:00,780 --> 02:32:05,340
go to the free, go to the second
class citizens go to the ones

2324
02:32:05,340 --> 02:32:10,020
who are suffering the brunt of
Caesars brutality. And if Jesus

2325
02:32:10,020 --> 02:32:13,140
were here in America today, he
wouldn't be going to the white

2326
02:32:13,140 --> 02:32:16,950
man. The white man is the
oppressor. He would be going to

2327
02:32:16,950 --> 02:32:20,850
the oppressed. He would be going
to the humble. He would be going

2328
02:32:20,850 --> 02:32:24,720
to the lowly, he would be going
to the rejected in the despise,

2329
02:32:24,900 --> 02:32:27,540
he would be going to the so
called American Negro.

2330
02:32:29,970 --> 02:32:36,570
Yo, what year that was a 6663. I
believe 64 if I'm not mistaken,

2331
02:32:36,570 --> 02:32:39,240
one of them right in between
those two gentlemen, just a

2332
02:32:39,270 --> 02:32:43,800
couple years away from from the
good times episode. Yeah, I will

2333
02:32:43,800 --> 02:32:47,340
say this, this momentum was
building of

2334
02:32:48,450 --> 02:32:53,850
once again, who are we? Who are
we wait a minute, but I actually

2335
02:32:53,850 --> 02:32:56,100
read the Bible, it says
something different than when I

2336
02:32:56,190 --> 02:32:59,880
when I see these pictures, which
all cultures do that all

2337
02:32:59,880 --> 02:33:04,800
cultures make gods, even in
Greece, they redid the Egyptian

2338
02:33:04,800 --> 02:33:06,270
Pantheon, you know?

2339
02:33:07,890 --> 02:33:11,850
It is what it is. And that's why
Egypt is their holy grail. And

2340
02:33:11,850 --> 02:33:15,810
we talked about in the last
show. Yeah. On that on the left

2341
02:33:15,810 --> 02:33:22,320
hand path. So, um, my favorite
racist, Donald Sterling, because

2342
02:33:22,860 --> 02:33:27,930
briefly, I say that is Donald
Sterling. And all that he did he

2343
02:33:27,930 --> 02:33:32,100
draw so many truth bombs, and I
think that's why they got him

2344
02:33:32,280 --> 02:33:35,250
canceled canceled. I mean,
they're like you take your $2

2345
02:33:35,250 --> 02:33:38,520
billion for your team, right? We
will pay you twice what the

2346
02:33:38,520 --> 02:33:44,070
value is, and you're out here
talking Yeah, because I have a

2347
02:33:44,070 --> 02:33:49,380
video have the audio tape of him
talking to V us. Step by step

2348
02:33:49,380 --> 02:33:52,020
established. Lonnie step by oni
I think it's how you pronounce

2349
02:33:52,020 --> 02:33:54,690
it. This is this this hit the
audio that got him in so much

2350
02:33:54,690 --> 02:33:58,560
trouble. Oh, this is what yeah,
this really got him in trouble,

2351
02:33:58,560 --> 02:34:04,440
but you didn't hear about it.
Um, this is a Donald Sterling

2352
02:34:04,440 --> 02:34:08,280
talking about the black Jews. It
makes you happy. I will remove

2353
02:34:08,280 --> 02:34:09,900
all of the black people for
money.

2354
02:34:13,980 --> 02:34:17,460
I understand. I did remove the
people that were independently

2355
02:34:17,460 --> 02:34:19,710
on my Instagram that are black.

2356
02:34:22,140 --> 02:34:26,490
Why did you say that? You didn't
you just said you didn't remove

2357
02:34:26,490 --> 02:34:26,640
them.

2358
02:34:28,020 --> 02:34:30,360
Matt camp in Magic Johnson.

2359
02:34:32,070 --> 02:34:35,310
His mix? And he was okay. Just
like me.

2360
02:34:36,660 --> 02:34:38,640
He's lighter whiter than me.

2361
02:34:41,010 --> 02:34:42,300
I met his mother.

2362
02:34:44,790 --> 02:34:46,200
I'm a racist. I don't think

2363
02:34:48,780 --> 02:34:53,670
I think you you I don't think
so. I think you have an amazing

2364
02:34:53,670 --> 02:34:57,990
heart, honey. I think that
people around you have a voice

2365
02:34:57,990 --> 02:34:59,970
in mind and have a way

2366
02:35:00,000 --> 02:35:06,300
In the world, you go to Israel.
The blacks are just treated like

2367
02:35:06,300 --> 02:35:06,960
dogs.

2368
02:35:08,700 --> 02:35:13,110
The white Jews, there's white
Jews and blacks. You understand?

2369
02:35:13,530 --> 02:35:16,080
And are the black Jews less in
the white?

2370
02:35:18,630 --> 02:35:19,200
Right?

2371
02:35:20,460 --> 02:35:24,510
Is the question. We don't
evaluate what's right and wrong.

2372
02:35:24,720 --> 02:35:26,610
We live in a society.

2373
02:35:27,840 --> 02:35:32,520
We live in a culture. We have to
live within that culture. But

2374
02:35:32,520 --> 02:35:36,210
shouldn't we take a stand for
what's wrong? And be the change

2375
02:35:36,210 --> 02:35:36,900
in the difference?

2376
02:35:37,980 --> 02:35:39,450
change the culture cuz I can't

2377
02:35:45,900 --> 02:35:47,460
do what I want. I don't want the
Girl.

2378
02:35:48,690 --> 02:35:50,280
Girl, they will do what I want.

2379
02:35:54,900 --> 02:35:58,920
You might as well. You didn't
hear that on the news. Not that

2380
02:35:58,920 --> 02:36:01,770
last bit. I heard part of the
other piece I think we had.

2381
02:36:03,000 --> 02:36:06,060
No, we had no agenda when we had
the clip. Okay.

2382
02:36:08,760 --> 02:36:12,150
I'm sorry to hear that on the
move. No, you're No, you're

2383
02:36:12,150 --> 02:36:15,660
right. But it's amazing. They
counselor for Magic Johnson and

2384
02:36:15,660 --> 02:36:17,340
taking pictures down and

2385
02:36:18,570 --> 02:36:24,540
14. Yeah, yeah. But he brings up
the black Jews and say 150%

2386
02:36:24,600 --> 02:36:28,830
Yeah. Not 150% treated like
dogs.

2387
02:36:30,690 --> 02:36:36,750
And they suppress it. Why is
that offensive? Where the pro

2388
02:36:36,750 --> 02:36:40,320
Palestine people are on this?
Where I mean, aren't you notice

2389
02:36:40,320 --> 02:36:44,670
like, we're bringing this up.
Nobody takes it home. So I have

2390
02:36:44,700 --> 02:36:50,490
a V. She's on speaking with
Barbara Walters. And I want

2391
02:36:50,490 --> 02:36:55,200
bought them out for a little
clarity. Bob Walters is 100%

2392
02:36:55,200 --> 02:36:59,010
Jewish. I don't think she's a
practicing religious, Jewish,

2393
02:36:59,010 --> 02:37:00,690
but more ethnic Jews.

2394
02:37:02,190 --> 02:37:07,680
Listen to how she sounds when
the brings up the black Jews on

2395
02:37:07,680 --> 02:37:12,810
her show. I think the things he
says are not what he feels.

2396
02:37:13,200 --> 02:37:16,830
Anyone can say anything in the
heat of the moment. Not

2397
02:37:16,860 --> 02:37:21,270
everybody who makes alleged
racist remarks and the heat of

2398
02:37:21,270 --> 02:37:24,120
the moment. Sometimes in the
heat of the moment you say

2399
02:37:24,120 --> 02:37:28,080
things that you mean that you
mean, or that you fail? Yeah.

2400
02:37:28,350 --> 02:37:32,250
Explain how he says these
things. I think this determines

2401
02:37:32,250 --> 02:37:36,630
from a different generation than
I am. I think he was brought up

2402
02:37:36,630 --> 02:37:38,880
to believe those things wasn't

2403
02:37:40,140 --> 02:37:46,230
segregation, whites and blacks.
minorities, from black Jews, to

2404
02:37:46,230 --> 02:37:52,080
light Jews to dark Jews. Black
Jews, yes. So it's not just

2405
02:37:52,590 --> 02:37:56,940
blacks. It's anti semitism he
expresses but he's Jewish, but

2406
02:37:56,970 --> 02:38:00,540
through his actions. He's shown
that he's not a racist.

2407
02:38:02,640 --> 02:38:06,750
You should see her face when she
was video. Yeah, she's Black

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02:38:06,780 --> 02:38:07,170
Watch.

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02:38:10,080 --> 02:38:10,560
What

2410
02:38:11,580 --> 02:38:14,220
she does is when you gotta we
probably gotta listen to it

2411
02:38:14,220 --> 02:38:19,110
again. Because she says, Oh,
it's an anti semitism thing.

2412
02:38:19,140 --> 02:38:21,330
Yes, exactly. Not a black thing.

2413
02:38:23,340 --> 02:38:27,660
That was really funny.
minorities, from black Jews, to

2414
02:38:27,660 --> 02:38:33,540
like Jews, to dark Jews. Black
Jews. Yes. So it's not just

2415
02:38:34,050 --> 02:38:36,960
blacks. It's anti semitism he
expresses

2416
02:38:41,790 --> 02:38:44,430
that's the classic pivot, right?
We talked about it with the ice

2417
02:38:44,430 --> 02:38:48,990
cube. When everything comes out,
it's always anti semitism. They

2418
02:38:48,990 --> 02:38:52,920
always make it about that. And I
just put a little clarity if you

2419
02:38:52,920 --> 02:38:57,690
didn't notice. Ah, yeah, so it's
just like she'd never heard of

2420
02:38:57,690 --> 02:39:00,420
black Jews before a black Jew
like what are you talking about?

2421
02:39:01,320 --> 02:39:04,950
Maybe she hadn't I don't know.
Did you not hear his tape? Why

2422
02:39:04,950 --> 02:39:05,520
are you shocked?

2423
02:39:06,720 --> 02:39:10,890
Come on, knock it off. Um, I'm
Bob barber I'm talking to come

2424
02:39:10,890 --> 02:39:15,000
on. Um, but I know a lot of
people got their pens and pads

2425
02:39:15,000 --> 02:39:18,090
out right now. I'm ready. Right
mo fax a letter your laptops and

2426
02:39:18,090 --> 02:39:20,520
like, what the hell is mo
talking about? Well,

2427
02:39:22,590 --> 02:39:25,560
I'm from the book of the Bible,
believe me, we shouldn't make

2428
02:39:25,560 --> 02:39:28,980
graven images or anything. So we
really shouldn't be talking

2429
02:39:28,980 --> 02:39:32,490
about, you know, what, what the
painting look like or anything

2430
02:39:32,490 --> 02:39:35,940
like that. Right? So let me be
clear on that. But one of the

2431
02:39:35,940 --> 02:39:41,190
most famous preachers in all of
history, Billy Graham's take on

2432
02:39:41,220 --> 02:39:45,090
black Jesus horns on his brow
and his face was bleeding.

2433
02:39:46,650 --> 02:39:51,480
And they laughed at him and they
spit on and they mocking and

2434
02:39:51,480 --> 02:39:56,130
with one snap of his fingers.
72,000 angels had already drawn

2435
02:39:56,130 --> 02:39:59,790
their swords ready to come to
his rescue and wipe this planet

2436
02:39:59,820 --> 02:39:59,970
out.

2437
02:40:00,000 --> 02:40:04,710
of existence in the universe.
And Jesus said no, to this end

2438
02:40:04,710 --> 02:40:05,520
was eyeball

2439
02:40:08,670 --> 02:40:13,710
dragged and lifted in Paul that
cross. And don't you black

2440
02:40:13,710 --> 02:40:15,600
people ever forget one thing.

2441
02:40:17,010 --> 02:40:21,210
The man that helped Jesus carry
that cross was a black man.

2442
02:40:23,970 --> 02:40:29,730
And don't ever forget another
thing. Jesus belongs to Africa

2443
02:40:30,690 --> 02:40:36,540
as much as he does to Europe and
Asia. He was born in that part

2444
02:40:36,540 --> 02:40:41,070
of the world that touches Africa
and Asia and Europe. And Jesus

2445
02:40:41,070 --> 02:40:43,770
was not a white man. Like me.

2446
02:40:45,330 --> 02:40:49,080
He is black as some of you. We
don't know what the color of his

2447
02:40:49,080 --> 02:40:51,660
skin but it must have been a
dark color, like the people of

2448
02:40:51,660 --> 02:40:54,420
his day, because he was a man
like them.

2449
02:40:56,460 --> 02:41:00,000
Don't ever say it's a white
man's religion, or a black man's

2450
02:41:00,000 --> 02:41:04,200
religion. It's our world
religion. He belongs to the

2451
02:41:04,200 --> 02:41:04,680
world.

2452
02:41:11,100 --> 02:41:16,560
pretty famous. pretty famous
sermon. Yeah. I mean, and Billy

2453
02:41:16,560 --> 02:41:19,950
Graham had the ear of all the
Presidents always, I mean, to

2454
02:41:19,950 --> 02:41:23,940
say he was like one of the most
powerful men in this era. I

2455
02:41:23,940 --> 02:41:27,570
mean, but I'm just saying, that
ain't my words. You take it out

2456
02:41:27,570 --> 02:41:32,250
with Billy Graham. Yeah, I mean,
you heard what he said. So, um,

2457
02:41:33,330 --> 02:41:38,940
but we've known that they wanted
to get rid of Jesus every since

2458
02:41:39,210 --> 02:41:43,350
show two. And this is goes to
talk about what Florida

2459
02:41:43,380 --> 02:41:46,950
everyone's saying that she's
seeing white Jesus every since

2460
02:41:46,950 --> 02:41:50,790
she's been a child. This is from
show two, claiming a seat at the

2461
02:41:50,790 --> 02:41:51,240
table.

2462
02:41:52,590 --> 02:41:57,180
I wanted to start by just giving
you a little perspective of my

2463
02:41:57,180 --> 02:42:01,350
household in the 70s. If you
were like me, growing up in the

2464
02:42:01,350 --> 02:42:07,650
70s, their portraits of MLK JFK,
and Jesus hung on on a lot of

2465
02:42:07,650 --> 02:42:13,290
folks was that was the Trinity.
Today, the trinity of Oprah,

2466
02:42:13,290 --> 02:42:16,560
Beyonce, and Michelle Obama
could almost replace them.

2467
02:42:17,730 --> 02:42:18,330
Wow.

2468
02:42:20,040 --> 02:42:28,020
Well, Oprah, a Beyonce and who's
the third one? Um, Barack Obama

2469
02:42:28,860 --> 02:42:31,620
was a bright No, no. Michelle
Obama. Michelle. I'm sorry.

2470
02:42:37,230 --> 02:42:37,860
Sorry.

2471
02:42:42,000 --> 02:42:45,780
Who's coming down off the wall
for GGP? Yeah.

2472
02:42:47,190 --> 02:42:48,210
Well,

2473
02:42:49,230 --> 02:42:52,740
let me see Oprah beyond say,

2474
02:42:53,760 --> 02:42:55,050
Michelle.

2475
02:42:57,270 --> 02:43:00,720
I don't know I mean,

2476
02:43:01,980 --> 02:43:02,400
well,

2477
02:43:04,050 --> 02:43:08,370
look into the clip. In a bizarre
step to bolster the cult of

2478
02:43:08,370 --> 02:43:12,180
season paint the Christian
minority in the Jiangxi province

2479
02:43:12,180 --> 02:43:15,780
of Southeast China, have been
now advised to replace the image

2480
02:43:15,780 --> 02:43:19,860
of Jesus Christ with that of
President Xi Jinping. That logic

2481
02:43:19,890 --> 02:43:23,820
the Jesus Christ would not,
would not pull the poor

2482
02:43:23,850 --> 02:43:27,420
Christians out of their poverty
by President Xi Jinping. Quote,

2483
02:43:27,990 --> 02:43:31,170
on the back of this logic, the
Christian for in the shanty

2484
02:43:31,170 --> 02:43:34,410
province have been asked to take
down the images of Jesus Christ,

2485
02:43:34,410 --> 02:43:39,240
the crucifixes and rosary beads
and instead, replace them. With

2486
02:43:39,240 --> 02:43:43,440
the posters of President Xi
Jinping. What has drawn sharp

2487
02:43:43,440 --> 02:43:46,470
criticism in this promotion of
the culture of Xi Jinping is

2488
02:43:46,470 --> 02:43:49,470
that those who do not replace
the images of Jesus Christ with

2489
02:43:49,470 --> 02:43:52,650
that of Xi Jinping will not be
provided with the poverty

2490
02:43:52,680 --> 02:43:56,760
alleviation. policies of
government services and funding

2491
02:43:56,760 --> 02:44:01,710
by the Chinese government. Also,
in fact, included as a penalty

2492
02:44:01,740 --> 02:44:05,730
for not conforming to that norm.
The Jiangxi province has more

2493
02:44:05,730 --> 02:44:09,420
than 11 million members of the
Christian community who live in

2494
02:44:09,420 --> 02:44:13,140
abject poverty. According to
some service members of the

2495
02:44:13,140 --> 02:44:17,850
Christian community across the
whole of China is about 90

2496
02:44:17,850 --> 02:44:21,060
million which outnumbers the
total membership of the

2497
02:44:21,060 --> 02:44:24,210
Communist Party in the country.
President Xi Jinping in the

2498
02:44:24,210 --> 02:44:27,540
promotion of his personality
cult is trying to recreate a

2499
02:44:27,540 --> 02:44:30,990
similar practice where after the
Cultural Revolution in China,

2500
02:44:31,200 --> 02:44:33,900
people used to hang up the
posters of Mao Zedong.

2501
02:44:35,700 --> 02:44:41,040
Well, it's such a simple and
effective strategy where you

2502
02:44:41,040 --> 02:44:46,110
say, okay, Zhang ping, T will
replace Jesus because He will

2503
02:44:46,110 --> 02:44:51,900
bring salvation to you the poor,
and if you don't hang up his

2504
02:44:51,900 --> 02:44:55,950
picture, then you'll see and if
you do, oh yes, there comes to

2505
02:44:55,950 --> 02:44:58,590
salvation, because you don't get
it if you don't have this

2506
02:44:58,590 --> 02:44:59,970
picture. But meanwhile, the

2507
02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:05,160
Kids learn that that's the guy.
The next generation is who this

2508
02:45:05,160 --> 02:45:10,110
affects most deeply. Yes. That's
sick. How old? Is this a new

2509
02:45:10,110 --> 02:45:10,530
clip?

2510
02:45:11,820 --> 02:45:17,760
Ah, I think maybe a year or two
old. Wow. Yeah. That's what's

2511
02:45:17,760 --> 02:45:23,430
out now you going back now? You
want me to buy into that? Right?

2512
02:45:23,580 --> 02:45:24,750
I think not.

2513
02:45:27,630 --> 02:45:31,290
And I think I will be
comfortable to say a lot

2514
02:45:31,290 --> 02:45:32,280
majority of

2515
02:45:34,560 --> 02:45:39,600
people in America, black or not
our non black would not go for

2516
02:45:39,600 --> 02:45:42,630
that either. I think they'd be
shocked. I'd never heard of this

2517
02:45:42,630 --> 02:45:45,120
clip. I think they'd be shocked
if they knew that was going on.

2518
02:45:46,440 --> 02:45:49,950
Yeah, but you see, that's why
it's the what is it called

2519
02:45:49,980 --> 02:45:54,510
Overton window? I think the
Overton window. Okay, Jesus

2520
02:45:54,510 --> 02:46:00,360
comes down for Beyonce, Michelle
Obama and other lady. Okay, now

2521
02:46:00,360 --> 02:46:02,280
we replace them with Gigi Ping.

2522
02:46:05,580 --> 02:46:08,250
Yeah, isn't that rolled off his
tongue to say Oh, yeah, we took

2523
02:46:08,250 --> 02:46:10,590
down Jesus, JFK and MLK. Oh,
yeah.

2524
02:46:12,870 --> 02:46:16,890
We put up a first lady a
celebrity and it's like what? So

2525
02:46:17,160 --> 02:46:22,020
they're preparing you to get rid
of your faith, whatever your

2526
02:46:22,020 --> 02:46:23,100
faith is, or

2527
02:46:24,840 --> 02:46:27,690
whatever. They're preparing.
They're preparing the next

2528
02:46:27,690 --> 02:46:31,170
generation. That's really who it
affects everything we've heard

2529
02:46:31,170 --> 02:46:34,110
about. Okay, the first picture I
saw when I was born, that was my

2530
02:46:34,110 --> 02:46:38,010
mom it was Jesus Christ. And now
it'll be Gigi ping

2531
02:46:40,260 --> 02:46:44,640
or it'll be Beyonce and she's
endorsing that regime

2532
02:46:47,070 --> 02:46:50,700
Wow, I'm a little depressed mo
hold on let's do this. Some

2533
02:46:50,700 --> 02:46:52,980
people out there who need my
services

2534
02:46:54,630 --> 02:46:56,220
any people out there who are
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people out there who are

2536
02:47:03,540 --> 02:47:05,310
out there who just need to hear

2537
02:47:06,750 --> 02:47:07,710
y'all got kids

2538
02:47:12,870 --> 02:47:15,540
there you go. Yeah, we're not
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2539
02:47:15,540 --> 02:47:17,610
either. Don't have to hang up
our picture anywhere on your

2540
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wall. No, all we want is to
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2612
02:52:06,210 --> 02:52:10,470
Alright, so coming down the
homestretch. Uh, let's see what

2613
02:52:10,470 --> 02:52:13,200
we got off the list. So far. We
got the scientific method,

2614
02:52:13,200 --> 02:52:16,830
rational thinking check.
individualism check. Hard work

2615
02:52:16,830 --> 02:52:20,010
check. Yeah, geez, Christianity
slash the Bible. Let's just say

2616
02:52:20,010 --> 02:52:22,560
the Bible. Yeah. Cuz I mean,
that Christianity thing is kind

2617
02:52:22,560 --> 02:52:25,290
of what what do we what are we
missing? What else do we have to

2618
02:52:25,290 --> 02:52:25,410
get

2619
02:52:26,490 --> 02:52:27,810
out of stable nuclear family?

2620
02:52:29,220 --> 02:52:32,460
Let's ruin that. Let's get rid
of that. So

2621
02:52:33,840 --> 02:52:36,480
as I pointed out, we've been
talking about this thing for

2622
02:52:36,480 --> 02:52:39,780
over a year. Yeah. I mean, we
got clips from that, you know,

2623
02:52:39,810 --> 02:52:41,340
just the second show.

2624
02:52:42,750 --> 02:52:45,450
We've been talking and it's not
a pattern, I bet. It's just that

2625
02:52:47,220 --> 02:52:51,750
this conversation needs to be
had amongst you and someone

2626
02:52:51,750 --> 02:52:55,470
else, like me and Adam, this is
a conversation between me and

2627
02:52:55,470 --> 02:53:01,050
Adam. When we get together, and
like, and we fill in the blank

2628
02:53:01,050 --> 02:53:03,780
screenshot, it's like, Oh, I
didn't know that, you know, and

2629
02:53:03,780 --> 02:53:08,010
in the picture becomes clear. So
this guy, this is Mr. Jason

2630
02:53:08,010 --> 02:53:13,320
Whitlock, and this is for show
21. And he was talking about the

2631
02:53:13,320 --> 02:53:17,400
planned demise of the black
family, all kinds of decisions

2632
02:53:17,400 --> 02:53:21,720
are being made, all kinds of new
cultural norms are being

2633
02:53:21,720 --> 02:53:25,560
established, that perhaps you
don't agree with.

2634
02:53:26,610 --> 02:53:31,170
And, but you're running around
chasing after Trump, and don't

2635
02:53:31,170 --> 02:53:35,190
even care, that all your
cultural norms are being

2636
02:53:35,190 --> 02:53:41,430
reshaped. And and, again, we
have created particular is

2637
02:53:41,430 --> 02:53:45,690
throughout American society, but
it's most acute in our society.

2638
02:53:46,590 --> 02:53:52,650
We have been convinced as black
men and women that we don't need

2639
02:53:52,650 --> 02:53:58,410
each other. Right? That's the
most toxic, poisonous, dangerous

2640
02:53:58,890 --> 02:54:01,950
creation we can have. We're on
the precipice of self

2641
02:54:01,950 --> 02:54:03,810
destruction, if that takes root.

2642
02:54:05,400 --> 02:54:10,350
Yep. Sounded like hyperbole
then. Yeah, but not really now,

2643
02:54:10,350 --> 02:54:14,310
huh? When would you have the
documentation that says Oh,

2644
02:54:14,310 --> 02:54:18,150
yeah, you know, that stable
family, stable nuclear family.

2645
02:54:18,690 --> 02:54:23,310
And I saw this thing cropping
up. If they do this weird

2646
02:54:25,410 --> 02:54:29,250
sleight of hand trick. They say,
well, we're talking about

2647
02:54:29,250 --> 02:54:34,260
extended family. Yeah, right to
be. Well, if you just take it on

2648
02:54:34,260 --> 02:54:36,780
service, I'm like, that's cool.
Because I kind of grew up with

2649
02:54:36,780 --> 02:54:41,340
extended families. You know,
your grandma lived with you. You

2650
02:54:41,340 --> 02:54:45,480
know, I mean, she's still a
very, very successful model and

2651
02:54:45,480 --> 02:54:49,320
many cocoa is the best is the
best. I mean, my mother in law

2652
02:54:49,320 --> 02:54:50,310
lived with me for

2653
02:54:51,480 --> 02:54:55,410
four years. And you you It's
amazing.

2654
02:54:57,420 --> 02:54:59,970
The relationship she has with
the kids and

2655
02:55:00,000 --> 02:55:04,200
Yeah, um, if you need want to go
out on a date, you don't have to

2656
02:55:04,200 --> 02:55:08,430
really get a babysitter, per se.
Yeah, that's the whole idea of

2657
02:55:08,430 --> 02:55:13,320
mom and dad can still have a
marriage, married life. It's a

2658
02:55:13,320 --> 02:55:16,380
pressure release. And it's like,
it's like kids keep an eye on

2659
02:55:16,380 --> 02:55:19,020
grandma. But she cuts the stove
off.

2660
02:55:20,430 --> 02:55:23,010
forgetful. I'm all for it. I
didn't really grow up my

2661
02:55:23,010 --> 02:55:26,370
grandparents because we lived
overseas. And I was always a

2662
02:55:26,370 --> 02:55:28,710
little envious. And when they
came to visit, it was a big

2663
02:55:28,710 --> 02:55:33,600
deal. Yeah, well, luckily for me
for a few years of my life, I

2664
02:55:33,600 --> 02:55:36,270
live next door to one set of
grandparents. I'm talking about

2665
02:55:36,270 --> 02:55:41,460
literally next door. And then my
maternal grandmother came to the

2666
02:55:41,460 --> 02:55:45,360
house almost every day. And as I
said, I had a wonderful

2667
02:55:45,360 --> 02:55:50,220
childhood, I actually lived the
American life, right? I mean,

2668
02:55:50,220 --> 02:55:52,860
like that it's meant to be and
that's why I may be

2669
02:55:53,910 --> 02:55:57,960
so attached to it in a way
because the way you know, I

2670
02:55:57,960 --> 02:55:59,730
mean, we have a lot of money,
but

2671
02:56:00,870 --> 02:56:04,230
like I said, nuclear family and
but then you had the extended

2672
02:56:04,230 --> 02:56:09,930
family nearby. And, you know,
you learn so much. Really, I'm a

2673
02:56:09,930 --> 02:56:12,570
baby boomer. I'm

2674
02:56:13,710 --> 02:56:19,110
not in chronological years, but
like, what am I, um, my makeup?

2675
02:56:19,620 --> 02:56:24,390
Because I saw my grandparents
and, you know, I was so close to

2676
02:56:24,390 --> 02:56:28,050
them the things they instilled
in me. I'm not really in that I

2677
02:56:28,050 --> 02:56:31,470
think I will be considered
Generation X. But I had the

2678
02:56:31,470 --> 02:56:36,060
mindset of an older generation
because I had an appreciation

2679
02:56:36,060 --> 02:56:38,340
for it because I was exposed to
it but going back to what I was

2680
02:56:38,340 --> 02:56:42,060
saying was they sell you on the
dream of extended family of

2681
02:56:42,060 --> 02:56:45,390
cousins and now that's not what
they're talking about. what

2682
02:56:45,390 --> 02:56:49,260
they're talking about. is these
makeshift families. Right? Where

2683
02:56:49,260 --> 02:56:53,880
are you? on clay we're friends
get together. Everybody can

2684
02:56:53,880 --> 02:56:54,870
afford a house.

2685
02:57:01,200 --> 02:57:03,450
That Zach we're talking about.
And I'm gonna give you a sample

2686
02:57:03,450 --> 02:57:06,450
how this breezed over into pop
culture and mainstream culture.

2687
02:57:06,540 --> 02:57:07,560
Oh, okay.

2688
02:57:08,910 --> 02:57:09,840
Friends giving?

2689
02:57:11,130 --> 02:57:14,550
Yes. Yeah, you're right. Friends
giving

2690
02:57:16,890 --> 02:57:20,580
you not really to policy your
family. Get together with

2691
02:57:20,580 --> 02:57:23,520
friends and now call it friends.
This is this is the new plan

2692
02:57:24,060 --> 02:57:28,950
where you'll be living in a bunk
you have a book in a

2693
02:57:30,510 --> 02:57:32,220
dorm in a dorm? Yeah.

2694
02:57:33,840 --> 02:57:37,140
I think you did a clip on with a
Lululemon guy, where he like,

2695
02:57:37,260 --> 02:57:40,080
sleeps in like a bunk and he has
like two pair of underwear.

2696
02:57:41,160 --> 02:57:45,120
Pants. And, exactly. That's the
plan for the future. And it's

2697
02:57:45,120 --> 02:57:49,260
like, well, the luxury of raise
your kid to create your own

2698
02:57:49,260 --> 02:57:52,680
family. Cuz your real family
sucks, and they don't understand

2699
02:57:52,680 --> 02:57:54,450
you. So this is the

2700
02:57:55,560 --> 02:57:58,650
this is the war, but they roll
these things out. And you see me

2701
02:57:58,680 --> 02:58:01,710
like I said, I could have had 60
clips in the show. But it's just

2702
02:58:01,710 --> 02:58:05,640
that friendsgiving is a perfect
example of this. It's not that

2703
02:58:05,640 --> 02:58:09,180
they're gonna sell you the
extended family, which I'm more

2704
02:58:09,180 --> 02:58:12,690
than a fan of, because I think
it takes stress off of kids to

2705
02:58:12,690 --> 02:58:15,990
get not the pressure to be 18
and figure things out and go off

2706
02:58:15,990 --> 02:58:18,780
on their own right. I really
don't think kids and especially

2707
02:58:18,780 --> 02:58:23,400
kids in this gym in this age,
because of Arrested Development.

2708
02:58:24,030 --> 02:58:28,620
Um, that not as a negative
thing, but just, we age slower

2709
02:58:28,650 --> 02:58:33,360
now, or even myself, you know, I
mean, me at 40 I will probably

2710
02:58:33,360 --> 02:58:38,730
be where my dad was, like, 27 I
mean, so, cuz they grew up hard.

2711
02:58:38,730 --> 02:58:43,530
I mean, rough. Um, but yeah, so
that's what they're trying to do

2712
02:58:43,530 --> 02:58:47,940
is they're trying to sell this I
forget the name of it. It's like

2713
02:58:47,940 --> 02:58:52,680
a selected family or something
like that. Where Yeah, so that's

2714
02:58:52,680 --> 02:58:55,440
what they're trying to do and
familiar with the with a select

2715
02:58:55,440 --> 02:58:58,110
and I'm sure they do have a
catchy phrase for it. I don't

2716
02:58:58,110 --> 02:59:01,860
know what it is. It is it slips
my mind what it is, but um,

2717
02:59:02,520 --> 02:59:05,490
yeah, so basically you it won't
be extended family which you

2718
02:59:05,490 --> 02:59:09,030
would think that's the opposite
of the nuclear family. But no,

2719
02:59:09,030 --> 02:59:14,310
it's this the like, bit family,
like all these friends. So, um,

2720
02:59:14,340 --> 02:59:16,770
Jason was on it. And he was
saying like, yeah, they're

2721
02:59:16,770 --> 02:59:19,410
trying to say black men and
women don't need each other and

2722
02:59:19,410 --> 02:59:24,000
as always say, it starts with
us. And that's why you see

2723
02:59:26,040 --> 02:59:29,460
divorce and single parent
families and things are through

2724
02:59:29,460 --> 02:59:31,110
the roof and man that's all you
want to live. That's your

2725
02:59:31,110 --> 02:59:35,550
choice. But I don't like how the
media selling it as the the best

2726
02:59:35,550 --> 02:59:39,780
way. If it works for you works
for you. But let's get back into

2727
02:59:39,780 --> 02:59:43,290
fresh out 21 and get back in
with Jason Whitlock in the

2728
02:59:43,290 --> 02:59:49,890
patriarchy. Believe in family
blue. Believe in the patriarchy

2729
02:59:49,950 --> 02:59:53,400
where and again I don't talk I
am the patriarchy. I tell people

2730
02:59:53,400 --> 02:59:57,870
up front. You know in it. I pay
a price for that with these woke

2731
02:59:57,870 --> 02:59:59,910
women now but

2732
03:00:01,860 --> 03:00:09,030
I believe men and women have
unique responsibilities. And I'm

2733
03:00:09,030 --> 03:00:14,550
willing to live up to mine. As a
man. I don't again, unique

2734
03:00:14,550 --> 03:00:19,020
responsibilities, not unequal
responsibilities, unique

2735
03:00:19,020 --> 03:00:23,160
responsibilities. All the
responsibilities that apply to a

2736
03:00:23,160 --> 03:00:28,440
man. I'm willing to take on.
Family of choice or chosen

2737
03:00:28,440 --> 03:00:32,490
family, chosen family. That's
the one I see. That's the trick.

2738
03:00:32,520 --> 03:00:35,460
It's like you think nuclear
family extended family? No, it's

2739
03:00:35,460 --> 03:00:39,270
the chosen family. It's the
family of choice versus the

2740
03:00:39,270 --> 03:00:41,190
family of procreation.

2741
03:00:42,330 --> 03:00:42,840
Yes.

2742
03:00:45,450 --> 03:00:48,600
Man, it's so heavy. So heavy
duty stuff. You know what the

2743
03:00:48,600 --> 03:00:50,760
weird thing is, I got a couple
of messages.

2744
03:00:51,810 --> 03:00:52,200
And like,

2745
03:00:53,370 --> 03:00:56,250
people actually think you're the
conservative one on this show,

2746
03:00:56,250 --> 03:00:56,730
Adam.

2747
03:00:59,370 --> 03:01:00,330
That is interesting.

2748
03:01:02,730 --> 03:01:05,460
No, but that's that's the biased
thing. They're like, well, the

2749
03:01:05,490 --> 03:01:08,490
black guy has to be more liberal
than the white guy. I mean, it's

2750
03:01:08,490 --> 03:01:13,350
father. No. I'd say you're a
little bit more in Yeah, I think

2751
03:01:14,730 --> 03:01:18,300
I am. I am. I think you're not
saying that. This you're

2752
03:01:18,300 --> 03:01:22,140
liberal, but I'm just saying, I
embrace my not when I say

2753
03:01:22,140 --> 03:01:24,480
conservative, I'm not talking
about political affiliation.

2754
03:01:26,850 --> 03:01:29,910
Explain it to the peenya. I'm
talking about a social

2755
03:01:30,540 --> 03:01:37,170
conservative. Ah, and to give
you an example of, we always

2756
03:01:37,170 --> 03:01:40,770
talk about television shows we
have to go back to billions. And

2757
03:01:40,770 --> 03:01:42,900
one of the guys identify with

2758
03:01:44,190 --> 03:01:50,220
my guilty pleasure is Charles
rose senior from billions. And I

2759
03:01:50,220 --> 03:01:51,060
get him.

2760
03:01:55,230 --> 03:02:00,150
And this is a this is him giving
advice on divorce. He really did

2761
03:02:00,150 --> 03:02:02,190
try to try harder.

2762
03:02:05,040 --> 03:02:08,070
On the marriage seven years
before you even entertain the

2763
03:02:08,070 --> 03:02:11,130
notion of a divorce ad and the
day that Dorsey brothers showed

2764
03:02:11,130 --> 03:02:14,400
that Presley boys swiveling his
hips, there's been a slow but

2765
03:02:14,400 --> 03:02:18,120
steady erosion of the family.
Well, here's how you keep one

2766
03:02:18,120 --> 03:02:21,660
going. You find a group of
friends better than you find one

2767
03:02:21,660 --> 03:02:26,550
worse about them to each other.
And then when you're all bitched

2768
03:02:26,550 --> 03:02:30,810
out, run 10 miles a day, take
your birth control pills, and

2769
03:02:30,810 --> 03:02:36,090
flush them and make that kid
your project together. And if

2770
03:02:36,120 --> 03:02:40,500
IRA doesn't know how to fuck
you, you teach him, okay.

2771
03:02:41,670 --> 03:02:45,720
I'm not done. One more thing.
Give yourself the Lyme test. You

2772
03:02:45,720 --> 03:02:48,390
stick your finger in lime juice
and put it up inside and if it

2773
03:02:48,390 --> 03:02:52,830
stings, get yourself cleaned
out. does not bring the clap

2774
03:02:52,950 --> 03:02:56,160
home. Your husband. It's unsafe.
Oh

2775
03:02:59,820 --> 03:03:06,840
my god. Man, old school. Girls,
Roy. Yeah. Identify with people

2776
03:03:06,840 --> 03:03:08,400
like that. So

2777
03:03:09,930 --> 03:03:14,280
I think people should try to
keep families intact and create

2778
03:03:14,280 --> 03:03:20,160
families in it. That's just me.
Speaking of, of television

2779
03:03:20,160 --> 03:03:24,720
shows, I'm reading here that the
Fox Television so almost family?

2780
03:03:25,320 --> 03:03:25,710
Uh huh.

2781
03:03:26,940 --> 03:03:30,930
Well, that is some deep
propaganda for the family of

2782
03:03:30,930 --> 03:03:35,790
choice. And I think this is us
is another one. You're probably

2783
03:03:35,790 --> 03:03:41,940
right. Yeah. Francis, in one
phrase was an earlier version of

2784
03:03:41,940 --> 03:03:44,670
this chosen family. Yeah.

2785
03:03:45,990 --> 03:03:46,320
Yeah.

2786
03:03:47,760 --> 03:03:50,250
If you watched it, watch the
commercials.

2787
03:03:52,080 --> 03:03:57,060
Watch the commercials. Yeah. You
better start the pressing me mo

2788
03:03:58,050 --> 03:04:01,890
no, not identify the prey. We
identify the problem we can

2789
03:04:01,890 --> 03:04:05,340
solve the problem. The problem
is that we do think everything

2790
03:04:05,370 --> 03:04:08,520
Oh, yeah, Prince given. But if
you want to get with friends

2791
03:04:08,520 --> 03:04:12,210
with thanksgiving, understand,
oh, like so my family, I get it.

2792
03:04:13,620 --> 03:04:14,460
Right. But

2793
03:04:15,660 --> 03:04:19,290
it's just this thing of
choosing, you get to choose

2794
03:04:19,290 --> 03:04:23,580
everything. You get to choose
your family. It's about

2795
03:04:23,580 --> 03:04:26,160
destroying lineage, is what I
mean. That's what it's about. It

2796
03:04:26,160 --> 03:04:28,770
is destroying everything,
everything, everything, the

2797
03:04:28,770 --> 03:04:34,020
fabric that all fabric care, so
much of your self identity comes

2798
03:04:34,020 --> 03:04:38,250
from your lineage. Whether you
like it or not, it's what it is.

2799
03:04:39,030 --> 03:04:42,270
The way you're made up if you're
around your parents, your

2800
03:04:42,270 --> 03:04:44,640
brothers, your sisters, your
aunts, uncles, your see

2801
03:04:44,640 --> 03:04:47,310
yourself, you like that
aggravates

2802
03:04:48,390 --> 03:04:52,410
that aggravates me about them,
and then you realize you do it

2803
03:04:52,410 --> 03:04:56,640
too. So then that's how you have
self improvement. So I mean,

2804
03:04:56,640 --> 03:04:59,970
it's it's it's the process so

2805
03:05:01,350 --> 03:05:04,590
Going back to black men, the
problem is now these black men,

2806
03:05:04,590 --> 03:05:07,500
right? Black men are the white
men or white people or black

2807
03:05:07,500 --> 03:05:11,070
people. That's the narrative.
And that's why we can't get

2808
03:05:11,070 --> 03:05:14,670
along. Because we have these
crazy conservative ideas that

2809
03:05:14,670 --> 03:05:18,600
come from the patriarchy. This
comes from the conspiracy to

2810
03:05:18,690 --> 03:05:21,120
destroy black boys from show
nine.

2811
03:05:22,290 --> 03:05:26,610
And it tells you pretty much
what black men want in general,

2812
03:05:27,060 --> 03:05:30,420
out now we have a lot of people
making plenty of money and love

2813
03:05:31,500 --> 03:05:33,480
that place money for for family.

2814
03:05:34,860 --> 03:05:39,390
You see black men, regular white
men buy their family house in

2815
03:05:39,390 --> 03:05:43,920
the suburbs to car and once a
year go down to Orlando for

2816
03:05:43,920 --> 03:05:48,150
Disney World vacation. And when
black men can't do that, they

2817
03:05:48,150 --> 03:05:49,830
don't feel they're worthy enough
to stay.

2818
03:05:51,510 --> 03:05:57,030
So that was a short clip. But I
found a longer clip that really

2819
03:05:57,030 --> 03:06:02,370
explains what's your working
class. And that's that's what I

2820
03:06:02,370 --> 03:06:06,600
speak for. I mean, people think
I may think I'm a professional

2821
03:06:06,600 --> 03:06:11,340
because I'm an engineer, but
bro, I'll work my way up from

2822
03:06:11,340 --> 03:06:16,620
packing boxes at the end of the
line to where I'm at now. So my

2823
03:06:16,620 --> 03:06:21,450
heart and my my understanding
goes out to the dude that lights

2824
03:06:21,450 --> 03:06:25,320
them up every day, and go may
earn a living.

2825
03:06:27,870 --> 03:06:33,180
And all we want every time is
outlined in this next clip,

2826
03:06:33,300 --> 03:06:36,570
which, of course, if you want to
talk about black men and black

2827
03:06:36,570 --> 03:06:40,560
families, you got to go talk to
Steve Bannon. Right? That would

2828
03:06:40,560 --> 03:06:42,900
seem like the guy I mean, that's
almost like

2829
03:06:44,280 --> 03:06:44,730
our,

2830
03:06:46,050 --> 03:06:46,830
our buddy

2831
03:06:47,850 --> 03:06:52,080
herskovits seems like seems like
the guy seems like he has the

2832
03:06:52,080 --> 03:06:56,490
profile. Well, let's listen to
Steve Bannon talk about his

2833
03:06:56,490 --> 03:06:58,620
family and how they came up with

2834
03:06:59,820 --> 03:07:01,020
the bill. You know,

2835
03:07:02,040 --> 03:07:04,740
my grandfather and father faith,
the only two guys in the history

2836
03:07:04,740 --> 03:07:07,830
of the bell system to be both 50
employees. My grandfather worked

2837
03:07:07,830 --> 03:07:11,730
there 50 years as a lineman, and
a PBX guy. And my dad was 50

2838
03:07:11,730 --> 03:07:14,850
years started in the sewer
pulling cable and worked for 50

2839
03:07:14,850 --> 03:07:18,300
years as a father and son worked
50 years for the phone company.

2840
03:07:18,300 --> 03:07:20,700
So you had these big
institutions, you know, I was

2841
03:07:20,940 --> 03:07:24,900
fortunate enough to be raised in
a in a great time in America,

2842
03:07:24,900 --> 03:07:28,770
right, the 50s and 60s. And he
believed in these big

2843
03:07:28,770 --> 03:07:33,510
institutions, the Catholic
Church, the phone company, and

2844
03:07:33,510 --> 03:07:35,790
these were, you know, permanent
fixtures in your life. And it's

2845
03:07:35,790 --> 03:07:39,630
kind of that stability came from
a neighborhood that was a little

2846
03:07:39,630 --> 03:07:44,010
bit tough, but it was not like,
it was a very solid, great

2847
03:07:44,340 --> 03:07:46,200
background, I go throughout the
world and meet these very

2848
03:07:46,200 --> 03:07:48,840
wealthy people I deal with all
the time and see their kids, the

2849
03:07:48,840 --> 03:07:52,260
greatest thing you can give a
kid is that kind of basic core

2850
03:07:52,620 --> 03:07:55,800
loving family that's there and
rock solid. So the family, the

2851
03:07:55,800 --> 03:08:00,990
church, the community, the phone
company, these are institutions.

2852
03:08:01,020 --> 03:08:04,560
And so institutions are, are
everything is a very

2853
03:08:04,560 --> 03:08:06,540
institutional life when you
think about it quite

2854
03:08:06,540 --> 03:08:10,230
hierarchical, but it's it's it
gives you a set framework that

2855
03:08:10,230 --> 03:08:13,950
you can you can you can grow and
be you know, get to be an adult

2856
03:08:13,950 --> 03:08:15,870
and there's a real sense of,

2857
03:08:16,980 --> 03:08:19,170
you know, something that's
solid, there's something that's

2858
03:08:19,170 --> 03:08:25,080
real. Yeah. So he pointed out,
he said, you need the family,

2859
03:08:25,740 --> 03:08:28,500
the church industry, yep.

2860
03:08:30,690 --> 03:08:35,490
The way that we used to work is
my dad worked in this factory.

2861
03:08:36,270 --> 03:08:40,710
And if my son just wanted to be
up to my standard of living, I

2862
03:08:40,710 --> 03:08:42,900
will get him a job at the
factory. And this is a night

2863
03:08:42,900 --> 03:08:47,490
where your kids can inherit your
job. It used to be that way, you

2864
03:08:47,490 --> 03:08:51,750
know, cuz you get your keys in
the union or Yeah, or, you know,

2865
03:08:51,780 --> 03:08:55,020
our own at the factory. And, you
know, at least you know, you

2866
03:08:55,020 --> 03:08:57,870
know what, my son is not going
to have a worse life than mine.

2867
03:08:58,440 --> 03:09:03,090
But this is where America sold
their people out. And black man

2868
03:09:03,090 --> 03:09:04,770
was just like, that's all we
want, you know,

2869
03:09:05,940 --> 03:09:08,550
is the, you know, live in our
own neighborhood and have our

2870
03:09:08,550 --> 03:09:11,430
church. And the reason why I use
the black man and clip is

2871
03:09:11,430 --> 03:09:12,060
because

2872
03:09:13,320 --> 03:09:17,100
he's Irish Catholic. wish they
were the last to get on the

2873
03:09:17,100 --> 03:09:18,180
white train. Right.

2874
03:09:21,000 --> 03:09:23,730
Cuz, I mean, if you read some of
the literature from the KKK,

2875
03:09:23,730 --> 03:09:27,360
they hated the cat. No, yeah,
yeah, right up there, if not

2876
03:09:27,360 --> 03:09:30,390
more than blacks. I mean, it was
it was neck and neck at times.

2877
03:09:30,390 --> 03:09:35,460
But what I was saying is, even
with that, you know, built in

2878
03:09:37,110 --> 03:09:40,740
roadblocks, they carved out
their own little neighborhood

2879
03:09:40,740 --> 03:09:43,170
and they carved out their
industry. And, you know,

2880
03:09:43,170 --> 03:09:43,410
they're,

2881
03:09:44,490 --> 03:09:47,070
I think they were talking about
the phone company, the bell Bell

2882
03:09:47,070 --> 03:09:50,730
company, and his granddad worked
there for 50 years. His dad

2883
03:09:50,730 --> 03:09:53,490
worked there for 50 years now
look at him. You know, two

2884
03:09:53,490 --> 03:09:56,820
generations, three generations.
Now you have a son that's a

2885
03:09:56,820 --> 03:09:59,760
Hollywood mogul, I believe. I
think this is

2886
03:10:00,000 --> 03:10:01,650
Official of

2887
03:10:03,120 --> 03:10:04,410
work, he's,

2888
03:10:05,640 --> 03:10:10,050
he got I know he made money in
Hollywood, he owns a piece of

2889
03:10:10,050 --> 03:10:15,750
the Seinfeld show. He invested.
Yeah. two to two working in

2890
03:10:15,750 --> 03:10:19,620
stores put in line and been two
generations from there. So let's

2891
03:10:19,620 --> 03:10:20,460
all we won't

2892
03:10:21,480 --> 03:10:25,170
give us a shot. But you know
what? I'm gonna tell you like

2893
03:10:25,170 --> 03:10:26,610
this, um,

2894
03:10:27,960 --> 03:10:31,650
we're not given that shot. And I
had to be very serious when I

2895
03:10:31,650 --> 03:10:35,460
say this now. Because when you
see a black man,

2896
03:10:37,530 --> 03:10:38,580
let me see, I can say this.

2897
03:10:39,960 --> 03:10:42,450
When you see a black man give it
his all.

2898
03:10:44,070 --> 03:10:48,660
And is chewed up, spit out by
the system.

2899
03:10:50,940 --> 03:10:54,720
You saw this in the rust belt
with white Americans. And you

2900
03:10:54,720 --> 03:10:57,840
know, I think Michael Moore said
this, the reason why they voted

2901
03:10:57,840 --> 03:11:01,560
for Trump, it was a big middle
finger to the, to the you know,

2902
03:11:01,560 --> 03:11:02,130
to the

2903
03:11:04,170 --> 03:11:08,340
establishment and the elite,
right? You put your you gave it

2904
03:11:08,340 --> 03:11:11,670
your all. And then the company
has walked in and gives you a

2905
03:11:11,670 --> 03:11:15,690
pink slip. Or, you know, you
phase you out cuz you're too old

2906
03:11:15,690 --> 03:11:20,940
or don't give you a pension. And
you as a black man, you see your

2907
03:11:20,940 --> 03:11:22,500
father done like this?

2908
03:11:24,900 --> 03:11:30,270
Marxism and communism seems like
a viable option. Like it is what

2909
03:11:30,420 --> 03:11:32,310
it is what capitalism has for
me.

2910
03:11:34,950 --> 03:11:38,280
And if you don't believe me,
listen to this. This is real,

2911
03:11:38,280 --> 03:11:38,880
because

2912
03:11:40,740 --> 03:11:43,260
I'm in the middle right now. And
I'm looking at my Dad, I'm

2913
03:11:43,260 --> 03:11:45,060
looking at my son. And I'm like,

2914
03:11:47,340 --> 03:11:53,070
Is it something here for me?
Like, it was an American

2915
03:11:53,070 --> 03:11:56,940
contract? Does that really exist
still? Or is it every man for

2916
03:11:56,940 --> 03:12:00,660
himself? You know, and then you
got to make the best deal for

2917
03:12:00,660 --> 03:12:03,180
yourself? I don't even know if I
can answer that at the moment.

2918
03:12:03,180 --> 03:12:08,520
Mo. I think structurally, yeah.
But the fabric on top of it,

2919
03:12:09,000 --> 03:12:12,480
that communicates that message
is very distorted. But that's

2920
03:12:12,480 --> 03:12:16,020
what you saw at the Capitol.
Exactly. That's what you saw at.

2921
03:12:16,080 --> 03:12:19,170
I mean, that's why I can
empathize with those folks.

2922
03:12:19,170 --> 03:12:19,830
Because

2923
03:12:20,850 --> 03:12:23,940
when they shut down the flour
mills and the textile mills and

2924
03:12:23,940 --> 03:12:28,110
a small knock on town from
before my uncles had high school

2925
03:12:28,140 --> 03:12:30,750
education at best, but they
could take care of their

2926
03:12:30,750 --> 03:12:32,040
families. Right.

2927
03:12:33,630 --> 03:12:36,420
Fast forward, you know, 30
years.

2928
03:12:37,740 --> 03:12:40,320
And you could have two people
working and you're scraping by.

2929
03:12:41,220 --> 03:12:44,130
This is the deal America wants
to get given to you wonder why

2930
03:12:44,130 --> 03:12:47,550
the kids are looking for a new
political structure? Yeah, no,

2931
03:12:47,550 --> 03:12:49,050
you're right. Are you surprised?

2932
03:12:50,190 --> 03:12:52,860
Well, I'm not gonna put it I'm
not gonna put it off. I'll often

2933
03:12:52,860 --> 03:12:55,530
the young people in the people
that's looking for different now

2934
03:12:55,530 --> 03:12:59,880
I will say they're short
sighted. Because you know, but I

2935
03:12:59,880 --> 03:13:01,650
am seeing very hopeful

2936
03:13:05,070 --> 03:13:10,740
very hopeful moves towards other
exits than the than a socialist

2937
03:13:10,740 --> 03:13:11,190
system.

2938
03:13:12,660 --> 03:13:15,960
I see a lot. What about the
worker? What about the guy that

2939
03:13:15,960 --> 03:13:20,010
just wants to get out 40 hours a
week, when I'm talking about

2940
03:13:20,070 --> 03:13:23,280
young young young people who
have come out of college with

2941
03:13:23,280 --> 03:13:26,490
papers worthless, and they are
starting to build their own

2942
03:13:26,490 --> 03:13:29,850
world, they're starting to build
their own systems. Bitcoin is a

2943
03:13:29,850 --> 03:13:33,480
part of that. I think that's a
different crowd, though. I'm

2944
03:13:33,480 --> 03:13:35,430
talking about the guy that gets
up

2945
03:13:36,930 --> 03:13:41,070
and just wants to go and be a
contributor for 40 hours a week

2946
03:13:41,460 --> 03:13:45,900
and have the house May, I'll
just say stay bad, a small house

2947
03:13:45,960 --> 03:13:49,170
and not a nice neighborhood. I
mean, it wasn't the suburbs. You

2948
03:13:49,170 --> 03:13:53,490
know, I mean, it was working
class. Right. Well, that's what

2949
03:13:53,490 --> 03:13:57,120
it was got one of those guys got
you. I mean, what is the

2950
03:13:57,120 --> 03:14:01,290
manufacturing that that is? That
has to be brought back? I would

2951
03:14:01,290 --> 03:14:04,260
not know what it is. Otherwise,
there's farming. No, that's what

2952
03:14:04,260 --> 03:14:07,260
I'm telling you. That's what I'm
saying to America. You're

2953
03:14:07,260 --> 03:14:09,390
playing with fire right now for
sure.

2954
03:14:11,760 --> 03:14:14,610
Because once those people
stopped believing in the dream

2955
03:14:14,940 --> 03:14:19,440
thing, not communicating that
dream to the and like I say, the

2956
03:14:20,310 --> 03:14:24,270
the keeper of that dream is
black America. I'm just gonna

2957
03:14:24,330 --> 03:14:25,290
give it to you straight.

2958
03:14:26,490 --> 03:14:30,750
Because we bought in, you know,
go to school, make yourself

2959
03:14:30,750 --> 03:14:33,750
viable, you know, whether you're
a plumber or electrician, you

2960
03:14:33,750 --> 03:14:38,760
know, I mean that the workers. I
mean, like I said, I'm dabbling

2961
03:14:38,760 --> 03:14:45,480
in entrepreneurial things right
now. But I can tell you what the

2962
03:14:45,480 --> 03:14:46,770
sentiment of the worker is.

2963
03:14:48,180 --> 03:14:49,740
Yeah, it's messed up.

2964
03:14:51,270 --> 03:14:54,060
And when you lose them, you lose
your country. So I've asked

2965
03:14:54,060 --> 03:14:57,450
that's the drag that out but
without this said, all that is

2966
03:14:57,450 --> 03:14:59,880
set this next clip up and this
is a

2967
03:15:00,000 --> 03:15:04,950
angry black man, quote, angry,
um, because he's seen his

2968
03:15:04,950 --> 03:15:05,670
father,

2969
03:15:06,810 --> 03:15:07,590
destroy.

2970
03:15:09,809 --> 03:15:13,949
And he ended up becoming a
communist. And you want to play

2971
03:15:13,949 --> 03:15:14,429
the clip.

2972
03:15:17,789 --> 03:15:21,779
Keep your word. Alright, if you
are a man, you keep your word.

2973
03:15:22,589 --> 03:15:26,429
And now all the black people in
this country are demanding, and

2974
03:15:26,429 --> 03:15:29,249
even the black people in the
whole world are demanding is

2975
03:15:29,249 --> 03:15:30,779
that you keep your word

2976
03:15:31,890 --> 03:15:35,820
you told us we were free will
then show us that we're free.

2977
03:15:36,660 --> 03:15:39,870
You told us that there is
justice, equality for all in

2978
03:15:39,870 --> 03:15:43,830
this country, you will stick to
your word. And let us see the

2979
03:15:43,830 --> 03:15:49,020
justice and equality for all. Or
else. You're not a man, your

2980
03:15:49,020 --> 03:15:51,750
word you're afraid of us, you're
afraid to give us equal.

2981
03:15:52,830 --> 03:15:55,680
You're afraid that if you give
us equal ground that we will

2982
03:15:55,680 --> 03:15:59,580
match you and we will override
you. And if that's what you're

2983
03:15:59,580 --> 03:16:00,090
afraid of

2984
03:16:01,410 --> 03:16:05,400
just what you're afraid of. But
don't keep hiding it from us and

2985
03:16:05,400 --> 03:16:08,490
holding this up to us. And every
time we ask you for something,

2986
03:16:08,610 --> 03:16:10,590
you give us a little bit of
something and

2987
03:16:11,730 --> 03:16:15,330
we don't want tokenism. And then
most black men in this wallet

2988
03:16:15,330 --> 03:16:16,590
don't want charity.

2989
03:16:18,090 --> 03:16:20,220
Every time we ask you for
something, you give us a little

2990
03:16:20,220 --> 03:16:22,860
piece a little piece, you're
playing games with us.

2991
03:16:24,840 --> 03:16:27,150
What big man I've seen my
father.

2992
03:16:29,790 --> 03:16:34,020
He was a big man he raised, he
went down. And he has to go

2993
03:16:34,020 --> 03:16:36,000
around to the back door with his
wife.

2994
03:16:37,740 --> 03:16:40,800
We're not asking for anything.
We're not asking for any favors.

2995
03:16:40,800 --> 03:16:42,540
All we want is what's ours.

2996
03:16:47,190 --> 03:16:48,510
And that's the sentiment. Now.

2997
03:16:49,590 --> 03:16:53,370
We bought into this country and
I say we I'm speaking for the

2998
03:16:53,370 --> 03:16:58,290
worker now. Not the worker in
the communist aspect. But the

2999
03:16:58,290 --> 03:17:04,200
guys that drive the trucks and
you know, those guys, and it's

3000
03:17:04,200 --> 03:17:08,460
getting to the point now where
you can't even have a wife.

3001
03:17:09,840 --> 03:17:12,300
You don't have enough money to
have a wife and a family

3002
03:17:12,300 --> 03:17:12,900
anymore.

3003
03:17:15,000 --> 03:17:20,190
That's not what you want for a
country. No, no, it's not unique

3004
03:17:20,190 --> 03:17:21,840
to America right now.

3005
03:17:23,640 --> 03:17:24,120
But

3006
03:17:25,500 --> 03:17:30,420
some of our some of the problems
we're dealing with are or the

3007
03:17:30,870 --> 03:17:34,080
actually the opportunities we
have. I think it's a lot worse

3008
03:17:34,080 --> 03:17:38,070
than other countries a lot
worse. And that's why I'm saying

3009
03:17:38,070 --> 03:17:39,180
like we thought

3010
03:17:40,320 --> 03:17:41,760
if we do the right thing,

3011
03:17:42,780 --> 03:17:45,660
it would be a contract.

3012
03:17:46,740 --> 03:17:49,620
You know, and like you said in
the last guy said

3013
03:17:50,730 --> 03:17:53,010
no more just tell us it's not
the deal. Right. But that's it.

3014
03:17:53,040 --> 03:17:57,060
You're not alone in the boat,
obviously. You know, so not at

3015
03:17:57,090 --> 03:18:02,670
all. No at all. Yeah, okay.
Well, people are what January

3016
03:18:02,670 --> 03:18:06,870
six? There you go, that that's
what you're seeing that

3017
03:18:08,190 --> 03:18:13,020
I can't I can empathize with
them. Because I'm just kidding.

3018
03:18:13,020 --> 03:18:16,710
only speak from my perspective.
It goes beyond empathy, is it?

3019
03:18:17,070 --> 03:18:20,310
It's what's out there is is
incredible.

3020
03:18:21,960 --> 03:18:26,520
Yes, going on. This is a
complete tinderbox instead of

3021
03:18:26,520 --> 03:18:30,510
talking to me about who incited
it, who incited it said Why were

3022
03:18:30,510 --> 03:18:33,120
these people so excitable?
That's the question that's not

3023
03:18:33,120 --> 03:18:34,650
being asked or discussed.

3024
03:18:35,670 --> 03:18:38,640
Yeah. And then then you get
brought in if you do have a job,

3025
03:18:38,640 --> 03:18:40,890
you're trying to maintain your
job. And it starts with the

3026
03:18:40,890 --> 03:18:42,510
white men first. I mean this

3027
03:18:44,040 --> 03:18:47,280
in this aspect of her your white
man, your white man, and then

3028
03:18:47,280 --> 03:18:49,950
it's just gonna spread to or
you're a man, you're a man, or

3029
03:18:49,950 --> 03:18:54,060
you're a heterosexual man. I see
where this is going. Yeah, the

3030
03:18:54,060 --> 03:18:57,900
re education is coming. But when
a culture doesn't work for

3031
03:18:57,930 --> 03:19:03,840
people anymore, it dissolves.
And this is what Dr. Amos Wilson

3032
03:19:03,840 --> 03:19:08,730
says In this next clip, clip 37
looking at the question,

3033
03:19:10,410 --> 03:19:14,640
what is culture hoarding and
hunt said from life from their

3034
03:19:14,640 --> 03:19:18,120
life experiences, a group
develops a set of rules and

3035
03:19:18,120 --> 03:19:19,920
procedures for meeting their
needs.

3036
03:19:21,030 --> 03:19:24,810
The set of rules and procedures
together with a supporting set

3037
03:19:25,080 --> 03:19:29,430
of ideas and values is called a
culture to a great extent your

3038
03:19:29,430 --> 03:19:37,140
co culture involves a set of
rules, and a procedure for

3039
03:19:37,140 --> 03:19:40,050
meeting needs. And this is thing
we have to keep in mind. You

3040
03:19:40,050 --> 03:19:43,890
don't have a code to just have a
culture. And you don't claim a

3041
03:19:43,890 --> 03:19:47,460
culture. Just because it's a
culture just because it's

3042
03:19:47,460 --> 03:19:48,090
African.

3043
03:19:49,380 --> 03:19:55,290
The ultimate thing that culture
must do is problems. That's why

3044
03:19:55,290 --> 03:19:59,130
people evolve a culture. That's
where culture comes into

3045
03:19:59,130 --> 03:19:59,970
existence.

3046
03:20:01,140 --> 03:20:08,340
As a way of solving problems and
meeting needs, that's why, at a

3047
03:20:08,340 --> 03:20:09,360
certain point,

3048
03:20:10,440 --> 03:20:14,280
when a culture no longer meets
the need of a people

3049
03:20:15,420 --> 03:20:18,990
or solves the problem
confronting a people, that

3050
03:20:18,990 --> 03:20:21,540
culture must be transformed.

3051
03:20:23,610 --> 03:20:24,090
That's right.

3052
03:20:25,470 --> 03:20:27,720
And what will it be transformed
into?

3053
03:20:29,370 --> 03:20:34,230
socialism, communism, some other
isms? Because you're looking at

3054
03:20:34,230 --> 03:20:38,640
well, capitalism network. What
do you want me be insane? I

3055
03:20:38,640 --> 03:20:40,890
mean, that's that's the thing
about keep trying the same thing

3056
03:20:40,890 --> 03:20:45,210
and get results. So the kids is
like, Dad, oh, no, look, look at

3057
03:20:45,210 --> 03:20:49,290
dad. He's out of work. You know,
I mean, like, he can't even

3058
03:20:49,290 --> 03:20:52,680
provide for us. You think I'm
buying the capital? I'm not

3059
03:20:52,680 --> 03:20:55,950
saying for me. I mean, because
like I said, I mean, I see the

3060
03:20:55,950 --> 03:20:58,770
bigger picture of Marxism and
capitalism. Now it's even worse

3061
03:20:58,770 --> 03:20:59,190
than that.

3062
03:21:00,360 --> 03:21:05,430
What I get from from the
Zoomers, is, yeah, you you may

3063
03:21:05,430 --> 03:21:08,850
be well off, but look at us. It
sucks for us. So that's your

3064
03:21:08,850 --> 03:21:10,200
fault. So it has to change.

3065
03:21:12,420 --> 03:21:15,630
That's what it is. Yep, that's
exactly what it is. And a pit

3066
03:21:15,630 --> 03:21:17,730
pit pit is generational.

3067
03:21:19,500 --> 03:21:23,760
generational war, very easy to
do. But we're gonna get to that

3068
03:21:23,760 --> 03:21:28,020
at a later date. But while we're
talking about the, the gender

3069
03:21:28,020 --> 03:21:31,860
war, because what you have to do
is pit the man against the

3070
03:21:31,860 --> 03:21:36,000
woman. And right now there's
this war going on. And I've been

3071
03:21:36,000 --> 03:21:39,630
reporting on this gender war for
a while now. Especially I can

3072
03:21:39,630 --> 03:21:43,710
only speak in the black
community that black women

3073
03:21:43,740 --> 03:21:48,510
supposedly don't think black men
have qualities to be husbands

3074
03:21:48,510 --> 03:21:51,840
and black men don't think black
women have the quality to be

3075
03:21:51,840 --> 03:21:54,840
wives. And it ends up and what

3076
03:21:56,340 --> 03:21:59,130
you know, that's not helpful for
our for our

3077
03:22:00,240 --> 03:22:08,250
continuing on on the lineage.
Um, but it's so. So I've

3078
03:22:09,330 --> 03:22:13,140
got avadi Bob Bochum. He's gonna
speak on

3079
03:22:14,190 --> 03:22:18,480
Cultural Marxism and he's a
pastor, by the way, enter the

3080
03:22:18,480 --> 03:22:19,470
cultural Marxist

3081
03:22:23,070 --> 03:22:28,710
with a couple of goals, number
one, to explain why the

3082
03:22:28,710 --> 03:22:32,790
revolution didn't occur, as Marx
thought it would Marx died in

3083
03:22:33,210 --> 03:22:38,520
1888, by the way, so now, we get
into the late 1800s, early

3084
03:22:38,520 --> 03:22:42,120
1900s. We get into World War
One.

3085
03:22:44,520 --> 03:22:47,550
And there are a couple of
players that you need to know if

3086
03:22:47,550 --> 03:22:51,990
you're going to understand
Cultural Marxism. One is a guy

3087
03:22:51,990 --> 03:22:56,220
by the name of Antonio Gramsci,
Gramsci was an Italian

3088
03:22:57,630 --> 03:22:58,290
Marxist.

3089
03:23:00,510 --> 03:23:02,670
Another one is not an
individual, but a group of

3090
03:23:02,670 --> 03:23:05,730
individuals known as the
Frankfurt School.

3091
03:23:08,730 --> 03:23:14,400
Two ideas, one Gramsci his idea
of cultural hegemony,

3092
03:23:15,660 --> 03:23:20,070
listen to the way one
sociologist puts it, cultural

3093
03:23:20,070 --> 03:23:24,960
hegemony refers to domination or
rule maintained through

3094
03:23:24,960 --> 03:23:29,610
ideological or cultural means.
It is usually achieved through

3095
03:23:29,610 --> 03:23:34,830
social institutions, which allow
those in power to strongly

3096
03:23:34,830 --> 03:23:39,810
influence the values, norms,
ideas, expectations, worldview,

3097
03:23:39,930 --> 03:23:44,160
and behavior of the rest of
society, cultural hegemony.

3098
03:23:45,870 --> 03:23:47,610
That's the power of

3099
03:23:48,870 --> 03:23:53,130
the Frankfurt School. We talked
about that, didn't we? And who,

3100
03:23:53,160 --> 03:23:55,710
who's holds the power in today's
society?

3101
03:23:58,140 --> 03:23:59,490
The women? Yeah.

3102
03:24:01,290 --> 03:24:05,100
Because they can decide, uh,
yeah, I don't want you here

3103
03:24:05,100 --> 03:24:07,950
anymore. I don't want to be with
you anymore.

3104
03:24:09,810 --> 03:24:14,790
And you have these television
shows. And when I say television

3105
03:24:14,790 --> 03:24:18,030
show, the morning shows pumping
all these crazy ideas.

3106
03:24:19,470 --> 03:24:22,770
That's counter. And when I say
crazy, I mean, there's counter

3107
03:24:22,770 --> 03:24:26,970
to what we've done for 1000
years as men and women in our

3108
03:24:26,970 --> 03:24:28,080
relationship with each other.

3109
03:24:29,490 --> 03:24:33,120
It's this new school of
thinking, and the result of it

3110
03:24:33,120 --> 03:24:37,770
is that is hitting mainstream,
and it's called a strike between

3111
03:24:37,770 --> 03:24:41,850
the male and female, it's not
black anymore. And I have this

3112
03:24:41,850 --> 03:24:46,320
couple of clips of feminists,
feminists talking to men's

3113
03:24:46,320 --> 03:24:50,040
rights groups. And as we just
run through these two next two

3114
03:24:50,040 --> 03:24:52,680
clips, and you can chime in how
you how you want to chime in,

3115
03:24:52,830 --> 03:24:55,560
but I just want to let you know
what's happening on the ground

3116
03:24:55,560 --> 03:24:59,580
right now. What do you need a
whole men's rights activism

3117
03:25:00,000 --> 03:25:04,440
movement for I'm sincerely
confused? Well, I mean, I will

3118
03:25:04,440 --> 03:25:07,680
advocate for positive
masculinity and what men should

3119
03:25:07,680 --> 03:25:10,770
represent and healthy outlets
for men like I still think the

3120
03:25:10,770 --> 03:25:13,560
Boy Scouts should be exclusively
the Boy Scouts. For example, one

3121
03:25:13,560 --> 03:25:16,290
of those things where I would
like to think that we could get

3122
03:25:16,290 --> 03:25:19,500
some common ground is when it
comes to the clear biases that

3123
03:25:19,500 --> 03:25:21,690
are in the court system,
especially in the marriage and

3124
03:25:21,690 --> 03:25:22,860
family court system.

3125
03:25:23,970 --> 03:25:27,450
And, and right, there is what I
would advocate for when it comes

3126
03:25:27,450 --> 03:25:31,140
to men's rights. The things that
stand Valley like that I'm

3127
03:25:31,140 --> 03:25:33,870
hearing from y'all that are like
valid to me, come from a place

3128
03:25:33,870 --> 03:25:37,680
of like, I am treated like
unfairly by the system, versus a

3129
03:25:37,680 --> 03:25:40,650
lot of things women are saying
it's also America and the system

3130
03:25:40,650 --> 03:25:43,830
as well. But a lot of it is like
harm from men. Okay, I think

3131
03:25:43,830 --> 03:25:46,050
some of the things that you guys
are touching on such as the

3132
03:25:46,050 --> 03:25:51,390
court system and gender roles
are a subject of patriarchy, and

3133
03:25:51,540 --> 03:25:54,510
that is part of what women are
trying to dismantle. Is those

3134
03:25:54,540 --> 03:25:57,810
traditional gender. Are there
any feminist organizations that

3135
03:25:57,810 --> 03:26:01,200
have done anything, for example,
to challenge bias against men

3136
03:26:01,200 --> 03:26:03,990
and fathers? Yeah, of course.
Absolutely. Can you please give

3137
03:26:03,990 --> 03:26:06,600
me like a list of feminist
advocacy organizations that have

3138
03:26:06,600 --> 03:26:08,580
engaged in any meaningful
advocacy to address those

3139
03:26:08,580 --> 03:26:11,670
issues? Because there are
actually none. Okay, I know that

3140
03:26:11,670 --> 03:26:14,220
you came with your little
research, or whatever I do with

3141
03:26:14,220 --> 03:26:16,830
a list of like feminist
organizations, but I know

3142
03:26:16,830 --> 03:26:19,830
actively that there are women's
organizations that are trying to

3143
03:26:19,830 --> 03:26:24,390
dismantle those interests. Just
one name just one again, come

3144
03:26:24,390 --> 03:26:27,210
with a list. There are no such
organization.

3145
03:26:29,850 --> 03:26:33,360
I mean, just how she'd
communicating to him my dude.

3146
03:26:34,380 --> 03:26:38,160
Well, that's where you throw
facts out the window. It's like

3147
03:26:38,160 --> 03:26:44,370
you have to kowtow to my, my
feelings. facts don't mean

3148
03:26:44,370 --> 03:26:48,450
anything all scientific method
and your linear racist,

3149
03:26:49,200 --> 03:26:52,680
irrationally. No, no, no, no,
no, you're not you're not

3150
03:26:52,680 --> 03:26:56,850
addressing my feelings. Which to
me, my feelings, Trump your,

3151
03:26:58,620 --> 03:27:00,090
your your facts.

3152
03:27:01,260 --> 03:27:05,280
And what this does is it makes
communication impossible.

3153
03:27:06,210 --> 03:27:08,520
Between the two sides, this is
what we learned with the new

3154
03:27:08,520 --> 03:27:14,520
york times with the the veteran
reporter who had to resign was

3155
03:27:14,520 --> 03:27:19,530
because of his use of the N
word. And even though he was

3156
03:27:19,530 --> 03:27:25,920
doing it in a, in the context of
journalism, the written word.

3157
03:27:27,510 --> 03:27:31,410
It the statement literally was
that it doesn't matter what your

3158
03:27:31,410 --> 03:27:35,490
intent was, it is how it made
the recipient feel, which is

3159
03:27:35,490 --> 03:27:40,560
just the end. That's the family
court system is based off of

3160
03:27:40,560 --> 03:27:44,550
feelings. Yep. It's just not
realized right now.

3161
03:27:45,660 --> 03:27:49,230
Your wife or my wife could pick
up the phone and like, you know

3162
03:27:49,230 --> 03:27:53,550
what? No, you're gassy. I do
actually get him out of here.

3163
03:27:53,640 --> 03:27:54,000
Yeah.

3164
03:27:55,170 --> 03:27:59,700
True. So what? So just think of
living under those conditions?

3165
03:27:59,760 --> 03:28:02,340
Yeah. And now what the young men
are saying, Well, you know,

3166
03:28:02,340 --> 03:28:02,760
what?

3167
03:28:04,410 --> 03:28:06,450
Screw marriage. Yeah, I'm out.

3168
03:28:07,470 --> 03:28:09,780
If that's the condition, screw
it. Yeah.

3169
03:28:12,210 --> 03:28:15,600
And if your goal is the
population, which it is, and

3170
03:28:15,600 --> 03:28:17,220
that's your, you're on the way,

3171
03:28:18,330 --> 03:28:21,120
you're heading down the right
road, and that's what this list

3172
03:28:21,120 --> 03:28:24,570
is all about. It's really about
the population always. That's

3173
03:28:24,570 --> 03:28:27,210
always what they want at the
end, whether it's climate

3174
03:28:27,210 --> 03:28:29,790
change, or any it's always less
people.

3175
03:28:32,010 --> 03:28:32,460
Well,

3176
03:28:34,260 --> 03:28:37,650
yeah, what they call the useless
eaters. Yeah, it's good. Prince

3177
03:28:37,650 --> 03:28:41,430
Charles calls the useless eaters
to be specific. Yeah, that's

3178
03:28:41,430 --> 03:28:43,530
what they look at. It's just
like, oh, what do you contribute

3179
03:28:43,530 --> 03:28:44,640
to society? I'm gonna

3180
03:28:45,720 --> 03:28:49,440
miss the second clip of this is
men's rights versus feminism.

3181
03:28:52,260 --> 03:28:53,070
rights.

3182
03:28:54,330 --> 03:28:56,490
I think there has been
significant progress over the

3183
03:28:56,490 --> 03:29:00,750
last decade or so especially in
the legal field. But I think

3184
03:29:00,750 --> 03:29:03,060
there are still significant
disparities that need to be

3185
03:29:03,060 --> 03:29:07,800
addressed, such as poor health
conditions, bias against men in

3186
03:29:07,800 --> 03:29:11,100
the criminal justice system bias
against men in family courts,

3187
03:29:11,310 --> 03:29:14,910
and bias against men in the
educational system, especially

3188
03:29:14,910 --> 03:29:15,720
in colleges.

3189
03:29:16,950 --> 03:29:19,920
Men and women should be our
eyes.

3190
03:29:21,330 --> 03:29:25,380
It strikes me like the way you
phrase this, you almost want men

3191
03:29:25,380 --> 03:29:28,980
to say certain things that you
want them to say, as opposed to

3192
03:29:28,980 --> 03:29:31,920
maybe actually listening that
what they're saying, but

3193
03:29:31,920 --> 03:29:35,010
certainly, just kind of like men
being analyzed mental

3194
03:29:35,040 --> 03:29:38,550
intelligent men, etc. I'm
completely okay with that. But

3195
03:29:38,550 --> 03:29:42,030
I'm not going to repeat like
feminists talking points to

3196
03:29:42,030 --> 03:29:44,880
other men. We all believe
different things. We may be

3197
03:29:44,880 --> 03:29:47,550
under the label of men's rights
activists, but for example, I'm

3198
03:29:47,550 --> 03:29:50,010
probably the most traditionalist
person here. I think we should

3199
03:29:50,010 --> 03:29:53,730
be allies. But maybe us being
allies in a patriarchy wouldn't

3200
03:29:53,730 --> 03:29:56,880
be so bad. You know, us going
back to the past wouldn't be so

3201
03:29:56,880 --> 03:29:59,370
bad. It would probably be a lot
happier if we were you know,

3202
03:29:59,370 --> 03:29:59,970
getting there.

3203
03:30:00,000 --> 03:30:03,780
Saying married and having kids
going to church and all that.

3204
03:30:05,040 --> 03:30:10,770
But heads were exploding after
that, of course. So, this is

3205
03:30:10,770 --> 03:30:11,460
where we get to

3206
03:30:13,230 --> 03:30:18,270
material. Here we go. Here we
go. All right, buckled in. Yes.

3207
03:30:18,690 --> 03:30:23,130
So everybody's cry for justice.
Right. Justice We want justice.

3208
03:30:23,130 --> 03:30:25,200
You know, everything is you
know, it's not just

3209
03:30:26,910 --> 03:30:30,120
you know, Justice in the court
is held up by Justice. Yes.

3210
03:30:30,150 --> 03:30:34,950
Well, Justice doesn't mean to
some people what you think it

3211
03:30:34,950 --> 03:30:38,880
means you're thinking our fair
trial and there was the 14th

3212
03:30:38,880 --> 03:30:42,600
amendment? I think there's 14
um, you know, your right to a

3213
03:30:42,600 --> 03:30:46,710
fair trial and those things and
not not No, no, no, no. Dang the

3214
03:30:46,710 --> 03:30:49,230
justice that the people at the
top are talking about?

3215
03:30:50,280 --> 03:30:54,300
What justice really means.
Welcome to chasing Gods where we

3216
03:30:54,300 --> 03:30:58,560
find meaning with symbols and
myths. To judge with justice is

3217
03:30:58,560 --> 03:31:02,400
believed to be one of the top
virtues by philosophers, writers

3218
03:31:02,400 --> 03:31:05,490
and artists of the ancient
world. From ancient Egypt to

3219
03:31:05,490 --> 03:31:09,000
Ancient Greece and Rome, Justice
has been personified by a

3220
03:31:09,000 --> 03:31:12,840
goddess who not only belongs to
the highest ranks of gods, but

3221
03:31:12,840 --> 03:31:16,440
who symbolism is even sought by
them. You could imagine what

3222
03:31:16,440 --> 03:31:20,250
justice must have meant to men.
This goddess I'm talking about

3223
03:31:20,250 --> 03:31:24,540
is Lady Justice. You've probably
seen her but may not have paid

3224
03:31:24,540 --> 03:31:28,920
too much attention. She could be
a statue, an emblem or figurine

3225
03:31:28,920 --> 03:31:32,670
to represent justice in the
legal system worldwide. She

3226
03:31:32,670 --> 03:31:36,570
holds a scale a sword and at
times she wears a blindfold.

3227
03:31:37,350 --> 03:31:37,980
Yes.

3228
03:31:39,180 --> 03:31:44,100
Lady the mother goddess aka the
mother goddess. When they say no

3229
03:31:44,100 --> 03:31:48,540
justice no peace that's what
they're talking about. No woman

3230
03:31:49,710 --> 03:31:54,690
in charge What? Yep, no piece.
And guess what everybody got

3231
03:31:54,720 --> 03:31:57,930
their all out of shape. When you
had the the bathroom it put out

3232
03:31:57,930 --> 03:32:01,950
the front nice courthouse, state
houses. But you got the mother

3233
03:32:01,950 --> 03:32:06,420
goddess right in every
courthouse? Yeah. Not in

3234
03:32:06,420 --> 03:32:10,890
America. Not only in America.
All over the world. Yeah.

3235
03:32:12,090 --> 03:32:15,240
So now we got to go back to
clergymen and we might need a

3236
03:32:15,240 --> 03:32:18,510
trigger warning for this custom
pastor Gino Jimmy Jimmy.

3237
03:32:21,900 --> 03:32:24,360
Q in one show mo that's pretty
crazy.

3238
03:32:27,420 --> 03:32:27,870
Warning

3239
03:32:29,400 --> 03:32:29,880
Warning

3240
03:32:33,180 --> 03:32:34,020
trigger warning

3241
03:32:42,300 --> 03:32:46,830
for women for women and become
servant and become servants for

3242
03:32:46,830 --> 03:32:52,140
their say for their men. They
also have counsel with men who

3243
03:32:52,140 --> 03:32:55,140
knew they was being used and
told me it was being used and

3244
03:32:55,140 --> 03:32:55,560
told me

3245
03:32:56,700 --> 03:32:57,240
a man

3246
03:32:58,590 --> 03:33:02,610
could help themselves That's
right. By this also

3247
03:33:04,050 --> 03:33:05,670
know you're being us.

3248
03:33:08,520 --> 03:33:09,720
I mean, he won't tell you.

3249
03:33:10,770 --> 03:33:15,600
That's right. Especially when
she tells you Yeah, I'm using a

3250
03:33:15,600 --> 03:33:16,020
man

3251
03:33:17,370 --> 03:33:21,390
and you don't care. Why should
she care? That's right

3252
03:33:24,030 --> 03:33:27,780
now in first estrus chapter four
and verse 22. Isn't at all this

3253
03:33:27,780 --> 03:33:31,440
scripture all this scripture?
That's right. This is the

3254
03:33:31,440 --> 03:33:33,060
condition that's right.

3255
03:33:34,800 --> 03:33:38,580
By this also, he must know some
women around us a memory cost

3256
03:33:38,580 --> 03:33:42,330
their mama did it. Yeah. And
they had a good teacher. That's

3257
03:33:42,330 --> 03:33:42,690
right.

3258
03:33:44,730 --> 03:33:46,170
Influenced by their friends

3259
03:33:48,510 --> 03:33:51,930
around us Americans uninfluenced
by nobody, they just want to do

3260
03:33:51,930 --> 03:33:52,800
it. Just want to do it.

3261
03:33:54,150 --> 03:33:57,330
The atmosphere that came out of
a sister do it. The other sister

3262
03:33:57,330 --> 03:33:58,890
do it. The other sister do it.

3263
03:34:00,240 --> 03:34:05,040
The mama dog the the grandma my
great grandma, my great, great,

3264
03:34:05,040 --> 03:34:05,640
great grandma.

3265
03:34:07,080 --> 03:34:09,390
It's a family affair is a family
tradition.

3266
03:34:11,130 --> 03:34:13,860
We're do Am I right

3267
03:34:17,190 --> 03:34:22,620
now, but this this, these
problems that manifest itself in

3268
03:34:22,620 --> 03:34:27,660
the world like in the flesh.
This is this is some high level

3269
03:34:27,660 --> 03:34:30,690
spiritual stuff that's going on.
And that's why you heard Black

3270
03:34:30,690 --> 03:34:33,780
Lives Matter doing what they
did. Like I said,

3271
03:34:35,280 --> 03:34:39,720
no justice, no peace. They talk
about just because why would you

3272
03:34:39,720 --> 03:34:42,690
believe in a court system that
you said it that a new set of

3273
03:34:42,690 --> 03:34:48,330
fire? Yeah. And objectifies you
and controls you?

3274
03:34:49,560 --> 03:34:49,980
What?

3275
03:34:51,330 --> 03:34:54,180
No, no, no, that's not the gist
they're talking about. And this

3276
03:34:54,180 --> 03:34:57,480
goes all the way back to Adam
and his first wife, not you.

3277
03:34:57,810 --> 03:34:59,970
This goes back to Adam, his
first wife. Bye

3278
03:35:00,000 --> 03:35:04,620
You aware of Adam in his first
wife, Adam, Adam and his first

3279
03:35:04,620 --> 03:35:09,210
wife? Yes. You know his first
wife was? I guess not.

3280
03:35:10,800 --> 03:35:14,670
You would think he right that's
would be the logical answer, but

3281
03:35:14,820 --> 03:35:17,040
apparently not 45

3282
03:35:18,060 --> 03:35:22,050
so Lilith is one of the most
popular mythological women of

3283
03:35:22,050 --> 03:35:25,980
the last couple 100 years we've
seen her as a vampire demoness,

3284
03:35:26,280 --> 03:35:31,140
a seductress and even Satan's
concubine. But in recent years

3285
03:35:31,170 --> 03:35:35,370
Lilith has taken on a new role.
She's become the dark feminist,

3286
03:35:35,820 --> 03:35:41,910
the embodied, powerful,
liberated, unapologetic women

3287
03:35:42,150 --> 03:35:47,340
that we have come to revere.
Truly, Lilith is a complicated

3288
03:35:47,340 --> 03:35:51,150
layered figure. The most popular
story of Lilith comes from a

3289
03:35:51,150 --> 03:35:56,100
medieval rabbinical text called
the alphabet of Ben serraj. In

3290
03:35:56,100 --> 03:36:01,050
this story, Lilith is the first
wife of Adam, born at the same

3291
03:36:01,050 --> 03:36:06,270
time and have the same earth but
quickly, they realize this match

3292
03:36:06,300 --> 03:36:10,950
is not meant to be the first
thing on Adams mind is to lay

3293
03:36:10,950 --> 03:36:11,670
with Lilith.

3294
03:36:12,840 --> 03:36:17,820
Very literally, and he insists
that he be the one on top, but

3295
03:36:17,820 --> 03:36:21,390
Lilith will not have it. And she
insists that if they do the

3296
03:36:21,390 --> 03:36:24,360
deed, she will not lie below
because she will not be

3297
03:36:24,360 --> 03:36:29,010
subordinate to him. She will not
be of lesser status, Luna says

3298
03:36:29,100 --> 03:36:32,940
we are equal to each other and
as much as we were both created

3299
03:36:32,940 --> 03:36:37,050
from the earth is this where
little affair comes from?

3300
03:36:37,410 --> 03:36:40,770
exactly where it comes from it.
This is some Beyonce level stuff

3301
03:36:40,770 --> 03:36:44,580
too. By the way, this whole via
Beyonce is a representation of

3302
03:36:44,580 --> 03:36:48,180
the mother goddess. All the pop
stars are representations of the

3303
03:36:48,180 --> 03:36:52,650
mother goddess, aka Lady
Justice, aka Yes.

3304
03:36:54,690 --> 03:36:55,890
Hi, is this from Egypt?

3305
03:37:00,180 --> 03:37:02,940
Oh, boy. Wow. Okay.

3306
03:37:04,260 --> 03:37:08,280
So we've got the temples. We've
got the history, Black History

3307
03:37:08,280 --> 03:37:11,610
Museum, American African
American History Museum upside

3308
03:37:11,610 --> 03:37:12,120
down.

3309
03:37:13,830 --> 03:37:18,210
t gyptian. thing. Right. We've
got Lilith

3310
03:37:20,280 --> 03:37:24,420
got Michelle Obama over brock
obama. Yeah. Wow role that she

3311
03:37:24,420 --> 03:37:29,100
plays. This is now how do you
come? There's gotta be some we

3312
03:37:29,100 --> 03:37:33,630
need some some hardcore magic of
our own to fight back.

3313
03:37:35,970 --> 03:37:39,990
logic or reason? That's why they
want to dismantle it, right.

3314
03:37:42,570 --> 03:37:46,140
What is that man it was that man
is controlled by his emotions is

3315
03:37:46,170 --> 03:37:49,590
like a boat and it's in a raging
sea or something like that. I

3316
03:37:49,590 --> 03:37:52,620
think this statement is
something similar to that. But

3317
03:37:52,620 --> 03:37:54,600
basically, when you're
controlled by your emotions, a

3318
03:37:54,600 --> 03:37:57,690
man he's all over the place.
Yeah, yeah. And to be honest

3319
03:37:57,690 --> 03:38:02,370
with you, women don't like that.
When a man is uncertain Oh, no,

3320
03:38:02,370 --> 03:38:03,510
no, no, not at all.

3321
03:38:05,130 --> 03:38:08,820
Wow. Well, this is why they want
to. That's why they want to

3322
03:38:08,820 --> 03:38:13,560
restore the masculine principle.
That's the whole point. Well,

3323
03:38:14,250 --> 03:38:16,350
this is Luckily,

3324
03:38:17,670 --> 03:38:23,070
men of all cultures and colors
can join hands in this. Yeah.

3325
03:38:23,070 --> 03:38:25,440
And it's not a religious thing.
What I'm saying is,

3326
03:38:26,820 --> 03:38:29,490
because when you operate in
logic and reason, then you can

3327
03:38:29,490 --> 03:38:33,030
understand the outcomes of what
happened. It's like, okay, I

3328
03:38:33,030 --> 03:38:36,000
expected this to happen. The
scientific method. No, I can

3329
03:38:36,060 --> 03:38:39,150
help that happened. Now. Let me
repeat, you know, then you have

3330
03:38:39,180 --> 03:38:42,240
you have improvements, that's
technology.

3331
03:38:44,280 --> 03:38:47,880
All of this stuff they call
technology now in science, going

3332
03:38:47,880 --> 03:38:51,240
back to where we started in the
last show, science is the new

3333
03:38:51,240 --> 03:38:54,750
religion, but it's not science,
right? Are you going to get rid

3334
03:38:54,750 --> 03:38:57,840
of scientific method have
science to what science are you

3335
03:38:57,840 --> 03:39:00,810
talking about? some magical
stuff.

3336
03:39:03,060 --> 03:39:07,290
No CBOE effect. All of this
stuff ties in together it does.

3337
03:39:09,240 --> 03:39:11,970
Unless you go and wrap up with
46 you get them give me

3338
03:39:11,970 --> 03:39:15,840
nightmares. Man, after a while
of arguing. Adam complains to

3339
03:39:15,840 --> 03:39:20,070
God that the woman who made for
him is malfunctioning, and God

3340
03:39:20,070 --> 03:39:23,220
tells Lilith she has lost her
husband or else she's going to

3341
03:39:23,220 --> 03:39:26,310
be exiled from Eden and that
would be pretty miserable. But

3342
03:39:26,310 --> 03:39:30,630
Willis doesn't care. And in
fact, she flies away screeching

3343
03:39:30,630 --> 03:39:35,040
the unknowable name of God that
somehow she knows and after a

3344
03:39:35,040 --> 03:39:39,450
while it's kind of lonely in
Eden and God tries to get love

3345
03:39:39,450 --> 03:39:42,960
back saying that, you know, if
you if you don't come back, I'm

3346
03:39:42,960 --> 03:39:46,680
gonna have to force you to be a
demon as soon as devours our own

3347
03:39:46,680 --> 03:39:49,350
children or charity. But well,
it says

3348
03:39:50,370 --> 03:39:55,800
Serbia because to her that fate
is better than one of eternal

3349
03:39:55,800 --> 03:39:59,430
subordination. Now, to the
modern mind. This is pretty

3350
03:39:59,430 --> 03:39:59,970
frigging

3351
03:40:00,000 --> 03:40:03,390
I'm in St. But there's something
keep in mind about this text.

3352
03:40:03,450 --> 03:40:07,980
This was not at all meant to be
a feminist revision of biblical

3353
03:40:07,980 --> 03:40:12,360
mythology. It was most likely
written as satire, possibly even

3354
03:40:12,360 --> 03:40:17,820
a commentary on the horribleness
of women, as if saying, leave

3355
03:40:17,820 --> 03:40:19,020
out evil Bob.

3356
03:40:20,070 --> 03:40:22,830
But though most of us have come
to know her through this

3357
03:40:22,830 --> 03:40:26,910
medieval texts, or this medieval
story, Lilith actually has

3358
03:40:27,000 --> 03:40:32,220
ancient roots born in Babylon
and sumeria. The story of love

3359
03:40:32,220 --> 03:40:37,290
is first seen 5000 years ago in
the Epic of Gilgamesh, and even

3360
03:40:37,290 --> 03:40:41,190
hinted at in text before that,
originally, she was a handmaid

3361
03:40:41,220 --> 03:40:45,660
of the goddess and Nana, the
great sky Queen, and Lilith was

3362
03:40:45,660 --> 03:40:50,100
somebody who appeared extremely
sexually independent, extremely

3363
03:40:50,100 --> 03:40:54,960
grounded in her body and her own
autonomous power. Why just

3364
03:40:54,960 --> 03:40:56,820
described every modern woman
there?

3365
03:40:57,840 --> 03:41:01,920
Yeah, I didn't say I didn't say
that. I did. But I'm just saying

3366
03:41:02,160 --> 03:41:07,560
that now you understand. Now you
understand and she's the console

3367
03:41:07,590 --> 03:41:13,260
of who? The sky The Great Nana
Ananya which is who are

3368
03:41:13,260 --> 03:41:15,240
representation of Lady Justice?

3369
03:41:19,980 --> 03:41:25,410
Which, of course, what? Sorel
sisters, what do they operate

3370
03:41:25,410 --> 03:41:27,120
in? Just justice?

3371
03:41:28,560 --> 03:41:33,330
No, justice, no peace. Okay,
that's gonna haunt me for a

3372
03:41:33,330 --> 03:41:33,960
little bit.

3373
03:41:36,330 --> 03:41:39,120
Oh, man. But you know what we
need?

3374
03:41:40,170 --> 03:41:44,580
We can't say this. We need
allies that are women

3375
03:41:45,840 --> 03:41:48,630
to call out this behavior?
Because this is not a non

3376
03:41:48,630 --> 03:41:51,990
starter? Well, I think we can't
i can't think we can say because

3377
03:41:51,990 --> 03:41:55,170
that's, that's clearly part of
what's necessary. But there's

3378
03:41:55,170 --> 03:41:58,770
also I think a large group of
women are probably also under

3379
03:41:58,770 --> 03:41:59,400
attack who,

3380
03:42:00,450 --> 03:42:04,440
believe it or not, may be more
conservative often.

3381
03:42:05,880 --> 03:42:09,570
Of course, I said the worst
thing outside, and I always joke

3382
03:42:09,810 --> 03:42:13,740
with people I talk to, and I say
the second worst thing you can

3383
03:42:13,740 --> 03:42:16,440
be other than a black man in
America is a housewife.

3384
03:42:17,610 --> 03:42:21,300
Yeah, house. Oh, they're so to
me. They're so

3385
03:42:22,770 --> 03:42:23,370
look.

3386
03:42:24,720 --> 03:42:27,420
That's the hardest friggin job
in the world. I'm telling you.

3387
03:42:27,780 --> 03:42:30,990
Now we come 360 you're talking
about the keys and being at

3388
03:42:30,990 --> 03:42:34,170
home? Oh, yeah. Right.

3389
03:42:35,670 --> 03:42:40,980
No, one is running the house.
Well, yeah, that is a that is a

3390
03:42:40,980 --> 03:42:44,100
real? That's a real job. Yeah,
you're talking about logistics

3391
03:42:44,100 --> 03:42:48,960
and education in medical,
healthcare and culinary arts and

3392
03:42:49,200 --> 03:42:54,450
in science and economics by
coupon in knowing what's coming

3393
03:42:54,450 --> 03:42:55,890
in and going out. Yeah.

3394
03:42:59,010 --> 03:42:59,970
But they demean him

3395
03:43:01,620 --> 03:43:06,060
Wow, I'm a little speechless mo
because I'm just like, wow, I

3396
03:43:06,060 --> 03:43:09,450
gotta think about this. And and
again, I appreciate you because

3397
03:43:09,960 --> 03:43:15,300
I'm always thinking what is what
is all this information going to

3398
03:43:15,300 --> 03:43:19,950
get me to at the end of the
show? And that was wrapping it

3399
03:43:19,950 --> 03:43:24,000
up with the little thing really
hammers at home? And

3400
03:43:25,200 --> 03:43:26,550
I can't say yeah,

3401
03:43:27,570 --> 03:43:31,620
holy crap. And I also always
immediately understand the last

3402
03:43:31,620 --> 03:43:34,950
song of the show whenever we get
to this part. Like I know I know

3403
03:43:34,950 --> 03:43:36,540
why he chose this one. Okay.

3404
03:43:38,670 --> 03:43:42,900
Moe, thank you so much, man.
This was yet again a fantastic

3405
03:43:42,900 --> 03:43:47,520
journey. I'm not as as giddy and
happy at the end of this one I'm

3406
03:43:47,520 --> 03:43:50,880
more like holy crap, I got some
stuff to think about. So I

3407
03:43:50,880 --> 03:43:54,690
appreciate that too. If you know
the planet attack you can

3408
03:43:54,690 --> 03:43:58,320
counter it this is correct.
That's what the positive No, no,

3409
03:43:58,350 --> 03:44:03,150
no. Everybody out there. Don't
be defeated. Because if you know

3410
03:44:03,150 --> 03:44:07,530
the plan of attack, then is you
can you can defeat it. You can

3411
03:44:07,530 --> 03:44:11,910
come up with it. You know it
really it is just prove prove

3412
03:44:11,910 --> 03:44:13,470
prove what you show your work.

3413
03:44:14,700 --> 03:44:17,400
That's what you need to tell
people show you work. What have

3414
03:44:17,400 --> 03:44:20,340
you built with this method? What
have y'all built?

3415
03:44:21,540 --> 03:44:25,710
And and but now from this day
forward, I will always be

3416
03:44:26,160 --> 03:44:28,920
slightly triggered, but in a
good way, because it will alert

3417
03:44:28,920 --> 03:44:31,410
me when I hear no justice.

3418
03:44:32,820 --> 03:44:36,840
No peace, no peace. I'll know
exactly what's going on. And as

3419
03:44:36,840 --> 03:44:42,120
I always say, pay attention to
everything. And the truth reveal

3420
03:44:42,120 --> 03:44:46,740
itself. It always comes true.
You are so right, moe, thank you

3421
03:44:46,740 --> 03:44:47,790
so much, my friend.

3422
03:44:48,960 --> 03:44:51,660
I appreciate it. Adam. See you
next time. You got it. And we'll

3423
03:44:51,660 --> 03:44:54,720
be talking to y'all real soon.
Remember to support us at mo

3424
03:44:54,720 --> 03:44:59,160
facts calm. And we'll see you
next time for more facts with

3425
03:44:59,160 --> 03:44:59,790
Adam Curry.

3426
03:45:06,180 --> 03:45:07,530
You better watch it's

3427
03:45:12,240 --> 03:45:14,220
gonna break your heart It

3428
03:45:16,470 --> 03:45:17,130
is true.

3429
03:45:20,970 --> 03:45:22,110
It's not hard to be

3430
03:45:24,660 --> 03:45:26,070
snuck into a farm.