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mo facts with Adam curry for
October 3 2020. This is episode

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number 50. And somewhere across
the country from his secret

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hideout Mr. Mo facts Momo,
how're you doing?

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I'm doing good. How about
yourself?

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Yeah, good. I missed you, man.
It's been. It's been one. Two

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weeks. Yeah, two weeks. Well,
everybody knows that usually

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something's going on. And of
course this is not just any

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episode.

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This is 50

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It's the big five. Oh, exactly.
Exactly. Should we do we need to

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do a little bit of celebrating
here is that

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we break

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congratulations, Mo we made it
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have not pod faded.

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That is a significant number for
me. I actually look at is like

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one season call me know, we
normally do a show we give or

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take a couple of weeks. And then
in between, but I guess this is

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the end of season one. I guess.

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That's actually a way to there's
a way to tag that. I think

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there's a way to tag the number
of episodes as the season. I

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gotta look into that. That'd be
kind of cool.

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Yeah, so I'm just like I said,
we started out without a plan.

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Just two people coming together
having a conversation. And it's

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grown into what it is and I'm
very happy. I'm very happy.

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You should also be proud man
this really put something

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amazing together here there's
even people doing no agenda and

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Mo facts meetups. Now it's like
it's become a whole thing. And

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and I guess I should ask if
you're planning it well, I don't

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know if we should ask now wants
to I'm gonna ask are you

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planning on going on Hotep Jesus
show.

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I was asked and we just got to
probably figure out the

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particulars of it. But that is
part of the plan.

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You know why? I'm interested,
right?

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Why is that sir? Of course
because you just came off of it

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doing the work.

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Well does that well, there's
that part. But also it's video

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show. So do we finally get to
see the mysterious MO

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That is the particularly that we
have to discuss.

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I knew it I knew I'm like he's
not if he had got to shame you.

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Either. You are Denzel
Washington. Or you're so ugly. I

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don't know which one it is Mo
I'm leaning towards Dinsdale.

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But

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no, it was not that it's one I
used to do music I still do

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music Yeah, but the reason why I
never took it seriously is

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because I never wanted to be a
celebrity right in the sense of

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face first so this podcasting
what we do here is the best

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perfect fit for my personality.

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Well why don't want to do like
like one of those DJs you know

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put a big marshmallow on your
head

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not gonna do that on the grill
isn't like the grill is And

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correct me animation character?

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Well, I'm sure you'll figure it
out. I'm looking forward to it

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either way I'm just jazzed that
you're that you get out there

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and people are hearing your
message except not just through

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this through this outstanding
product that we call mo fax with

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Adam curry

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a you know what Adam if this is
it this is more than enough for

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me and I'm gonna just I'm not
being modest they're actually in

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Miss we don't do a week I know
people like oh well. It's got

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some time it goes two weeks I
actually missed those weeks

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because this is a great
conversation I have every week

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and we don't talk hardly ever
outside the show so know it kind

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of live when I get

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it I'm not doing it I'm not
doing a podcast I'm just hanging

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out with Moe fine here and what
he's thinking about exactly well

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sometimes we do a little text if
there's like something

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spectacular and of course now
the the this scenario has taken

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an interesting plot twist with
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bogged down, man down

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what a we all great heels. Yeah.
Is the comeback. So just be

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aware of that.

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Oh, you're so right. He's gotta
have the comeback. Oh, my

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goodness. Wow. For another
deconstruction another time

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right now I suggest we spin up
that we'll have clips. Let's

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see. We're going to talk about
today on more facts with Adam

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curry. Round the round goes the
wheel of facts where it stops.

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Nobody knows well, Moe kind of
knows because he's the one that

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puts it all together. The topic
for episode number 50 is I

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prefer a Das. That makes very
clear who you're talking about.

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I know that voice. I know that
voice. Okay. Sounds familiar.

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Yes, it does. All right. Well, I
don't know if I should be

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worried or not right now. It's
like I'm getting my report card.

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Know what this is, is to catch
everybody out. We have a lot of

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new listeners, especially when
you dropped that bombshell on

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the Rogan's show, so we go all
over the place here. We don't,

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you know, whatever, hot at the
moment. Sometimes we talk about

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that. Sometimes we talk about
things that are nobody's

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covering. We call that all over
the place. So with this episode,

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I want to go in chronological
order. And I tried a fool's

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errand squeezing everything

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will be here until Sunday,
everybody, but yes, okay. Right.

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No, but what the cut the cut off
is 1619, which, that's

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what we're starting, are we any?

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Now that's, well, it looks like
we're we're starting at me, but

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we're going to start there.
Because that's the narrative.

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We're like, we say, we're not
historians, what we do is

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examine narrative. And that's
where the narrative starts of

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the Athos lineage. And then
we're going to wrap up somewhere

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around the civil rights
movement. Now, it might not be

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exactly chronological, but I
think this will help people to

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understand what our claim when I
say our eight offices claim is

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the reason why it's a legal
claim and not like a social

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program or a welfare program,
and then understand, it goes

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past from from, from what we
claim, we only want to be

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repaired from that point to the
end of legal slavery, but the

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effects of it go way past the
end of the legal slavery shirt.

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And I want to illustrate that so
hopefully, you know, I mean,

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it'll cover a lot of throwback
clips, but I didn't want to keep

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it as like,

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okay, so, so show so if I
understand so the how it's now

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this works is been a nice
refresher course for people

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who've been along for for 49
episodes so far. But if you're

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brand new, it's a great way to
catch up, you can always go back

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and get all the detail in
episodes one through 49. Is that

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do I mean my hair in that right?

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Correct. And it's going to be in
as much chronicle chronological

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order as possible. This will be
exciting to see the build up.

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Yeah. Are we like

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an on ramp episode, if you're
just joining the party, here's

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an on ramp.

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Correct. And now with that said,
let's get on the on ramp with

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number two.

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In 1619, when the first Africans
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colonies by ship to Jamestown,
Virginia, they held the legal

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status of servant. But as the
region's economic system became

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increasingly dependent on forced
labor, we descended into

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slavery. The institution of
American slavery developed as a

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permanent hereditary system
centrally tied to race. Millions

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of black people were forcibly
taken from Africa, crammed on

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ships and brought to the
Americas through a dangerous and

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deadly journey that crossed the
Atlantic. millions died. Once on

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our shores slavery deprive
enslaved person of any legal

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rights or autonomy, and granted
the slave owner complete power

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over the black men, women and
children legally recognized as

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property, an ideology of white
supremacy, a narrative of racial

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difference was created to
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continuation of slavery.

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Have I heard this clip? I don't
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new. So yeah, we're gonna have
some new stuff thrown in there

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to bridge together some gaps
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because we never really wanted
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don't want to focus on the ins
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slavery. But what can I go back
for a second? Let me let me

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start. Well, let me start at the
end and go back to the

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beginning. Okay. Right now and
2020. Black people will have an

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a maturation process
politically. And in that, in

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that process, reparations, or as
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atonement, and it's part of
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compare it to reproductive
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you're talking about immigration
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is the heart as reparations is
the heart as for this political

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maturation, okay. So I want to
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understand like, how did we get
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conversation? And that's why
we're going all the way back to

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the narrative. Does that? Does
that make sense?

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Yeah, it does. It does. Yeah. In
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here today, we have to step back
in time and bring it all the way

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forward.

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And the key word is narrative.
Because at the end of that clip,

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I don't know if you caught it or
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it was like a narrative was
created for the embarrassing

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situation that was at hand.

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Yes. And I'm gonna jump out the
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narrative of slavery is just as
dangerous, if not as dangerous

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or not as impactful as the
actual actual sex. Yes, right.

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Yeah. Because this is what held
us mentally captive. From, you

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know, that late 1800s to 2020 is
that narrative that has been

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created? And to do so we need to
look into that narrative. So

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hopefully, everybody understands
where we're headed and why I'm

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framing it this way. I think so.
So, okay. So to get to that

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narrative, now, we got to go to
throwback clip, and this is from

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show 38. And this is masa speaks

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it possible that white people
have something to do with the

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lack of ability for blacks to
assimilate into this culture.

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A white man has certainly been
prejudiced. And to quite an

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extent, unfair. But customers
die awful hard, it takes takes a

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long time. And everyone knew
years ago that they never would

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have to be given the quality.
But in the south, knowing

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negligence as we think we do, we
realize it would take time has

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been compared to straightening
teeth, it takes a slow, steady

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pressure, you can't do it with a
hammer. And, and white people's

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attitudes will change in time.
I'm a lot more liberal than I

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was five years ago. And I know
I'll be a lot more liberal five

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years from now. And I think
almost everyone else is in that

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So what I catch in this clip is
the term equality. And I hear

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this gentleman saying I'm a lot
more liberal, I'm getting more

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liberal Mo. That's interesting.
Yeah, context of what

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he says. First thing he says is
we were unfair, which is synonym

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of unfairness. And just or
unjust, I think unjust, but so

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if you're saying you're not you
weren't in just, that's what a

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legal claim comes in at like,
Okay, you were unfair. Yes, you

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have a descendant, Mr. Hastings,
it's clearly a descendant of

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slave masters. And he's saying
we were unfair to these people,

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we knew this. And we knew we're
gonna have to let him go. But

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his mind is like, we need to go
slow. We need to, you know, you

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can't can't trust them to be on
their own. Even though, you

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know, these people were. Yeah, I
mean, but that's that narrative

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that was shaped in his mind. And
in his forefathers minds, that

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we are the caretakers of these
poor, helpless people. Now fast

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forward. That's pretty much the
political liberal mindset, that

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we have to think for these
people. We can't let them off

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the plantation right away, you
know, we got to feed them,

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spoon, feed them social programs
and make, you know, make things

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like but I don't want to go
there. But I'm just saying that

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this mindset of Well, I'll let
Mr. Hastings continue on and

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what his mindset and what he
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time,

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what has tended to make you more
liberal?

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realization that the Negro as a
human being like anyone else,

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Mr. Hasty, what did you think we
were before you began to think

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of us as human beings?

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Well, no, in a way, we thought
of you almost as a very superior

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something or rather someone we
had to take care of, because we

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had to do so much of their
thinking for them. We had to do

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almost everything. For them,
except living their own life.

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Anything outside we had to do
for them.

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And this is recording from 1968
Correct.

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1968 Yes.

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I was alive. I was alive. I was
I was four.

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Yeah, it was 20 years before I
was born. So I mean, just put

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that in perspective. I consider
myself a young person, a

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relatively young person. And for
somebody to talk like to say

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that it was the real estate
ignition light. It never dawned

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on him. Now is he being? To be
honest, for him to sit down have

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this interview? I think he is
being honest. Yeah, it's a

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revelation to him to say, oh,
you know, they are human.

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Because if you grow up for 6070
years, Rainford, three or four

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generations that they're not
human. They're, you know, the

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livestock or, you know, property
that things pet a pet. When he

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bought, it finally dawned on me
because he made the, you know,

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the mission, that there are
human, they deserve rights. They

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deserve justice. They deserve to
be treated fairly. But now let's

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the conversation of how do we go
move forward? Right. And it's

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the same Congress conversation
now, with so called black

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people, how do we move forward?
Do we just, you know, give them

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their reparations? If you're a
lot of times people say, We're

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all they're gonna do a spin on
Gucci? Well, I mean, it's,

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it's interesting, you say that I
just wanted to make this one

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point that when I was talking to
Hotep, Jesus, he actually said,

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Well, you know, because we were
talking about Trump's platinum

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plan, which I just love the
marketing of the platinum plan.

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He said, Well, what good is
that? He says, they're just

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going to spend it on Gucci, and
I. And what I didn't say, which

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I only thought of later, is I
want to say, Hold on a second.

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What happened to blacks aren't a
monolith. That was actually a

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really stupid thing. He said, I
was like, wow, I wish I'd come

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up with that at the moment.

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And it's funny, you said that
because the money in the YouTube

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comments, were saying, Well, you
need to give them jobs, or give

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us jobs. I don't know how he was
how you actually find if he was

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paid off or not a Das, but he's
like, what we need his jobs. And

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I'm like to say that you're
trying to say that there are

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some of us are not productive,
and can't handle the influx of

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money and can't help. So we need
to stop that. Now. Yeah, nobody

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ever says that somebody is a
victim of a car crash or a

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workman's comp claim to say, You
know what? Yeah, your honor. We

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can't give them they're, they're
just do because all they do

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going to do is spend it on, you
know, Gucci, and Gucci judges,

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like No, something happened.
You're the thought of it. Let's

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the tone, it's also just not
true. And the more I think about

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it, especially with that analogy
that you using, it's really a

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dumb thing for someone to say,
especially from Hotep. It's

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like, wow, you know, I was just
I wasn't awake enough to catch

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it at the time.

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Now, I will say this, there are
going to be some people that

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misuse their money. Well, of
course, of course, just like

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there are still people who
misuse the the money that you

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receive for Corona. Yes, of
course. So to say that, I mean,

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that's fine. That doesn't take
away the fact that there's a

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legal claim to but I don't want
to beat a dead horse. But I just

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want to lay out. This is the
mindset. No, well, yeah, go

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ahead. I

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just want to recap. So I like
how you put this because that

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actually helps me a lot. It was
in just what happened. That's

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the legal event. Very much like
a car crash. I like that

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analogy, right. And so now we
have the determination. So we

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know who's at fault. There's
actually it's, it's an admitted,

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admitted mistake or fault. That
way. Now, we have to finalize

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the payment.

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Yes, that's all it is. It's just
like a class action suit with

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Monsanto or anything else.
You've harmed people. Now it's

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who gets to collect

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another name. The other great
analogy. Let's keep that going.

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Just like Monsanto Very good.
Yeah. What there's no difference

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is harmed one way or the other.
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Excellent. So I just want to lay
out the claim here, because the

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claim Sorry,

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I gotta interrupt you one more
time, because you just chicken

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my brain asleep gonna help you
because I'm going to help the

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cause. This is like a
shareholder class action suit.

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And I like this analogy more.
Because you can say, being a

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DDoS is your representation that
you own a share of stock, and a

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class action suit, they always
say, Hey, were you a shareholder

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between this date and that date?
So we can say between 6090 or

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whatever, end date 1968. Here's
your share. And they don't ask,

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were you investing for day
trading? Or you didn't ask any

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of this stuff? Just did you own
it? At this point in time, you

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will get a piece of the
settlement. And that's a

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fantastic analogy.

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And that's why we had to frame
it as a legal claim. Because if

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you don't people think it's a
social program or welfare

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programs? Yes, it's really not a
race. And you know what I'm

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gonna say this. Not every black
person that has been in America

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was a match substantial amount
of time come from the lineage of

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slavery, correct. And once once
we do the paperwork on most

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people, they'll be set free from
mental slavery, because it's

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like, okay, we did the bat
backlog, you don't come from

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linear slavery. Okay, now you're
good.

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What's your excuse? Good. Now
put this yellow star on your

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jacket.

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Now what that does is to say,
Okay, now I can't be blanketed

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and right with this
victimization mentality, I'm

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free, you set me free to let me
know, first of all, because I've

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said it on the show before,
knowing our lineage is a

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tangible thing, because knowing
where you come from is very

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valuable, valuable and
important, because I am

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surrounded by pictures of my
grandfathers and great

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grandfather's now look at these
pictures, like who are you? And

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why what part of you am I am?
What part of you is in me? So

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you know, these these things are
important. And that's why no man

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house, those kinds of things are
very detrimental, because you

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don't know who am I, you know, I
mean, who can't fall you can't

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trace the lineage. Right? So I
hope I'm laying that claim out.

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And I'm gonna further lay the
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again, that's the majority of
the underpinnings of the

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maturation process of a das
people. All right, so with that

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said, let's get into slavery to
mass incarceration to

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American slavery was often
brutal, barbaric and violent. In

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addition to the hardship of
forced labor, enslaved people

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were maimed or killed by slave
owners as punishment for working

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to slowly visiting a spouse
living on another plantation or

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even learning to read. enslaved
people were also sexually

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exploited. The United States
Congress finally banned the

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importation of slaves from
Africa in 1808. Slavery was

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widely considered a gross human
rights violation, yet,

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enslavement was retained and
persisted. The 1808 declaration

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caused the demand for slave
labor to skyrocket in the lower

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South, and the domestic slave
trade grew to meet this demand.

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Between 1808 and 1860, the
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grew from less than 40,000 to
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Alabama legislature banned free
black people from residing in

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the state, meaning that
enslavement was the only legally

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authorized status for African
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didn't know that did not know
there's

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a lot to unpack in that clip. So
this is one 1808 to 1860,

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slavery grows from 40,000 to
400,000. How does that happen?

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So there's a narrative out
there, that all of these people

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came from the west coast of
Africa, which I'm not a

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subscriber to that I'm a
subscriber to that was people

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that came here from Europe
through transportation, or

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fleeing Europe that were so
called Black. There were people

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here native to this land that
were so called black. And there

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were people that brought here
from west coast of Africa. Now

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what percentages of these three
people that make up the Athos

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community, I don't know what I'm
just saying, to grow from 1808

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to 1860s 52 years, you go 10 Max
on the population. And then they

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pass this law that says nobody
in the state can be black and be

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free. Now you start to see where
this becomes a legal claim

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against the United States.

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Yeah, okay.

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It's late. It's all legal. We're
not talking about emotions.

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We're not talking about any of
that. We're saying what happened

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here? And nobody you know, we
just gloss over these things.

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It's not an excuse. Oh, you were
a slave and Kane came? No, you

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were slave every Labor humbly
and yet came came he got your

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civil rights. Now, here we are.
Yeah. Which is a lot of which

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we're not going to pack here.
You're saying these numbers

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don't job. And we have to look
at it two ways. Before 1808 You

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had the international slave
trade where you're bringing

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slaves in from other places in
the world. At that point, it

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became legal to do so we said we
have to start and this is where

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you start looking at selective
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That has to be a part of it. It
does

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it also and nothing 12 You
dislike kind of covered this

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where they were capturing free
people? Yes, they like your

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black

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going man or slave now right?

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that and it was it was state
sanction. This is not Oh, well,

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you know, it was kind of, well,
no, you just don't understand

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if someone was captured in the,
in the in America, it was

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indigenous person. Now, they
don't have the same lineage.

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Right? Now the lineage is
American descendants of slavery.

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So it doesn't matter how you got
in there, you were a slave at

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that point. And you were then
subsequently, we have a lineage

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that leads to descendants of
slavery. Exactly. It doesn't

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matter where you came from
Africa or not.

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Here's the strangest thing I
find. And it's a lot of

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historians that support me on my
narrative. Everywhere in the

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world, you found heavy metal
melanated people, no matter

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where you go, you know,
Australia, you have aborigines

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everywhere, everywhere, except
for America. We just gonna let

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that fly. I mean, I'm not trying
to digress. I'm just saying. Not

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isn't that strange?

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Well, what do you mean? Isn't it
strange?

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That you go everywhere in the
world? Yes, fight heavy

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melanated people is that for
America? This landmass North

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America, or the Americas that,
you know, however, you want to

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slice it? No heavily heavily
melanated people who here I

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digress. And I'm sorry for doing
that. But I just want to point

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out that 40,000 to 400,000
number just sticks in my craw.

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Like, how does that happen? Were
y'all mass producing babies like

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that? Or right? Whereas a lot of
free people hear that you're

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saying got caught up in slavery
due to the changes?

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So you're saying some you're
saying something, I think I just

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want to make sure I understand
it. You're saying is a Das is

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American descendants of slavery.
And that doesn't necessarily

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mean that you came from Africa
means you were legally enslaved

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by a state of the United States
a legal event. And it doesn't

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matter what your lineage before
that is, at that moment, the

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lineage should pass his on, it's
considered a DOS,

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right? Because they might have
came here for like I say, 1492

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to that point. You had three
people coming here from all over

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the world. Right. So

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owners were black, what's the
cutting away at? You know, 1808?

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And what was the event in 1808?

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That's when they passed a law
that they said, You can't bring

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any more slaves in on ships,
basically. Yeah. I mean, if you

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if you homegrown, homegrown
slavery. I'm not saying that

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it's like a comical but it's
it's comical.

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But this is how you can have
people who are seemingly for the

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eye white, but they can be a
Das.

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Now, that's a slippery slope.
With like I said, if they want

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to make a claim, I'm not I will
be a hypocrite, to say if you

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were Irish, you were brought
here and transportation, you

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will make a claim. That's fine.
I'm not saying that. What I'm

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saying is, there were some
heavy, heavily melanated people

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that look like me, that were on
this landmass, and they were

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enslaved. Prior to 16 like to
just say that they say that's

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the cut off. And for some
reason, they may have been

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enslaved. And I know it's a hard
thing to get your head around.

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But it's like those numbers
don't make sense to me to jump

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like that.

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No, no, I'm totally with you. So
part of it is I guess, as you

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said, possibly breeding program,
but the rest is obviously

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grabbing other people who were
just handy.

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And they 12 Years a Slave tell
you that I mean, and they say

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we're free was black people own
and black people. So if I'm

441
00:28:48,270 --> 00:28:50,310
gonna came here, just like you
came here, it's like, how about

442
00:28:50,310 --> 00:28:56,400
jump you? I mean, like, How'd
you get free? And like I said,

443
00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:08,070
Musa, let's bring it back all
right. So what we have to

444
00:29:08,070 --> 00:29:13,350
understand now it was what
fueled the need for slaves. And

445
00:29:13,350 --> 00:29:16,440
there's two things that fueled
it. One was sugar.

446
00:29:16,980 --> 00:29:22,530
400 years ago, this month in
August 16 19, the first African

447
00:29:22,530 --> 00:29:25,920
slaves arrived in Virginia. It's
regarded by many as the

448
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:29,580
beginning of America's long
relationship with slavery, the

449
00:29:29,580 --> 00:29:33,780
400th anniversary, and the ways
slavery has affected American

450
00:29:33,780 --> 00:29:37,050
history since then, are being
commemorated. One of the more

451
00:29:37,050 --> 00:29:41,940
notable efforts is the New York
Times 6019 project, which is

452
00:29:41,940 --> 00:29:45,930
spotlighting parts of history
that are less well known. We're

453
00:29:45,930 --> 00:29:49,620
going to focus on some of the
economic legacies, including the

454
00:29:49,620 --> 00:29:53,580
larger connections with modern
capitalism. Specifically, we're

455
00:29:53,580 --> 00:29:56,340
going to look at how the
production of American sugar

456
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,970
known as white gold helped to
fuel slavery and became

457
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:04,890
ingrained in our society.
Historian Khalil Gibran Mohammed

458
00:30:04,890 --> 00:30:08,040
of Harvard's Kennedy School
wrote about that for the New

459
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:12,630
York Times, Louisiana, he wrote,
led the nation in destroying the

460
00:30:12,630 --> 00:30:16,530
lives of black people in the
name of economic efficiency.

461
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:23,880
Sugar was the most dominant
economic incentive for European

462
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:30,270
colonization of the Americas. No
other crop was as abundant or

463
00:30:30,270 --> 00:30:35,370
successful in drawing Europeans,
to the shores and I mean by that

464
00:30:35,370 --> 00:30:40,140
North America and South America
for the purpose of cultivating

465
00:30:40,140 --> 00:30:42,780
sugar for a worldwide market.

466
00:30:45,450 --> 00:30:50,490
So Sugar, Sugar brought him in.
And we were familiar with the

467
00:30:50,490 --> 00:30:55,080
triangle. Atlantic trace Les,
slave trade, you know, sugar

468
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:59,400
came, you know, from the West
Indies came to America, America.

469
00:31:00,030 --> 00:31:03,630
gotta fix the room, and then it
and you're saying they went back

470
00:31:03,630 --> 00:31:06,450
brought to Rome back to Europe,
you know, brought back slaves. I

471
00:31:06,450 --> 00:31:10,200
mean, that's the triangle. No,
I'm not oversimplifying it, but

472
00:31:10,410 --> 00:31:14,610
it just in that sense. So we
have this product sugar. And

473
00:31:14,610 --> 00:31:18,300
that was the really the first
cash crop that God America

474
00:31:18,300 --> 00:31:20,970
offers of his feet. So because a
lot of people say, Well, you

475
00:31:20,970 --> 00:31:25,740
know, I'm, I didn't have slaves
and my ancestors didn't have

476
00:31:25,740 --> 00:31:28,980
slaves. That's the argument,
right? But there will be no

477
00:31:28,980 --> 00:31:32,580
America if it wasn't for sugar,
or cotton, which we're going to

478
00:31:32,580 --> 00:31:36,690
talk about later. And if there's
no slaves, there's no sugar. I

479
00:31:36,690 --> 00:31:40,410
mean, if you do the one to one
correlation, we ain't sitting

480
00:31:40,410 --> 00:31:43,440
here right now, if it weren't
for sugar for cotton. And those

481
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:48,060
two products thrive off of free
labor. And it had they had to

482
00:31:48,060 --> 00:31:53,070
use free to human labor to even
know sustain it. So you

483
00:31:53,070 --> 00:31:58,740
understand the crane? Please
stop me. Slow me down. If I need

484
00:31:58,740 --> 00:31:59,790
to slow down

485
00:31:59,820 --> 00:32:02,220
No, I'm following along
perfectly.

486
00:32:02,460 --> 00:32:03,960
It's gonna make it safe.

487
00:32:03,990 --> 00:32:08,640
I'm really numb. If you are,
it's like the honorable mo

488
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:13,020
facts. Yes, sir. You have a
claim to make a state your case?

489
00:32:14,100 --> 00:32:16,710
Yeah, no, I get it. And you've
never done this. It's very

490
00:32:16,710 --> 00:32:17,640
intriguing. I love it.

491
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:23,550
No, the reason why I have to do
this because you have to explain

492
00:32:23,580 --> 00:32:26,580
if you just over Gloucester
dollars overseas,

493
00:32:28,020 --> 00:32:29,940
overseas satisfying. Yes,
exactly.

494
00:32:29,970 --> 00:32:33,330
We were slaves. You owe us this.
Like, my people didn't come here

495
00:32:33,330 --> 00:32:38,160
to know Ellis Island. What do I
owe you? Well, you partaken in

496
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:41,460
the American system. This is
like, I'm gonna draw analogy. If

497
00:32:41,460 --> 00:32:45,810
I go to Germany today and pick
up a German citizenship, so I'm

498
00:32:45,810 --> 00:32:49,410
leaving America, they're going
to take out a piece of my taxes

499
00:32:49,410 --> 00:32:52,890
are gonna go to Holocaust
survivors. Correct? I can't say

500
00:32:52,890 --> 00:32:53,910
to them, Hey,

501
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,070
I'm not German. Right?

502
00:32:56,100 --> 00:32:59,010
I just moved here. 2020 Why you
taking this out of my taxes?

503
00:32:59,490 --> 00:33:03,450
They're gonna say no, and the
country we owe them. Because how

504
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:08,820
we how we failed them as a group
of people. It's the same thing.

505
00:33:10,230 --> 00:33:10,740
Yeah,

506
00:33:10,980 --> 00:33:12,180
there's no doubt.

507
00:33:13,170 --> 00:33:17,610
What What will we go wrong? And
I will say we as a, if we want

508
00:33:17,610 --> 00:33:20,940
to look as a group of people, we
allow the people to speak for us

509
00:33:20,940 --> 00:33:24,120
to speak from a place of hatred.
It's like you owe us Whitey, you

510
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:27,450
know, it's like, white people
are like, I don't owe you

511
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:28,530
anything, right?

512
00:33:28,530 --> 00:33:31,770
It's, it's a difference between
the entity or the corporation

513
00:33:31,770 --> 00:33:36,210
known as THE UNITED STATES. Who
has a debt owed versus the white

514
00:33:36,210 --> 00:33:36,720
people.

515
00:33:37,890 --> 00:33:40,770
Correct. And that's why you see
people going down the street,

516
00:33:40,770 --> 00:33:43,200
take people's foods and say
black lives matter. You owe me a

517
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,900
steak dinner. You're like, no,
that's not how this works. We

518
00:33:45,900 --> 00:33:48,720
have a claim against the United
States government. Yeah, they

519
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:52,860
allow these practices going on.
Now, if you're a citizen of that

520
00:33:52,860 --> 00:33:57,240
government, then you have to pay
into it. dislike their people in

521
00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,520
internment camps. Dollar

522
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:05,100
Yeah, this is so sick now.
Because I wish I had known this

523
00:34:05,100 --> 00:34:08,010
before I said anything before I
opened my big mouth anywhere.

524
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:13,200
This is very Oh, no, no, bear
with me. This is very this is

525
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:18,450
really, really critical. This is
the distorted the distortion.

526
00:34:18,660 --> 00:34:20,430
Because of course, you know,
like California, they just

527
00:34:20,430 --> 00:34:23,370
passed the bill. Oh, we're gonna
do a study on reparations. Okay,

528
00:34:23,370 --> 00:34:27,420
we know how that ends. But it's
all the narrative is white

529
00:34:27,420 --> 00:34:30,720
people did this to black people,
instead of the United States had

530
00:34:30,720 --> 00:34:34,530
this, this system and then
enacted these laws, and then

531
00:34:34,530 --> 00:34:38,190
that then that was an actual
legal violation, no different

532
00:34:38,190 --> 00:34:44,490
than many other human tragedies
that have been repaired one way

533
00:34:44,490 --> 00:34:47,670
or the other. And so this really
gives you an identification

534
00:34:47,670 --> 00:34:52,050
factor, and it removes it
removes color from the entire

535
00:34:52,050 --> 00:34:56,970
conversation. Correct? Gosh, I
like it.

536
00:34:57,750 --> 00:35:00,630
But color does play into it
because we all without thinking

537
00:35:00,630 --> 00:35:04,380
about the bottom is well, and
the bottom was synonymous with

538
00:35:04,380 --> 00:35:07,680
color, but will. And that's why
we get hairy when you start

539
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:11,520
talking about post slavery. And
that's why I like to make a

540
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:19,380
clean case, we just need to talk
about 1618. You know, I mean,

541
00:35:19,380 --> 00:35:24,150
it's gonna be 1619 to, you know,
when slave slavery and that's,

542
00:35:24,150 --> 00:35:26,820
that's, that's what we frame it
because, of course it's going to

543
00:35:26,820 --> 00:35:28,680
blossom out of there and it's
going to, you know, it's going

544
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:31,860
to have ripple effects to you
know, the lineage down the line.

545
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:35,820
But if you keep the case there,
then you will be make an easier

546
00:35:35,820 --> 00:35:39,420
case for you for the, for the
reparations, or what I call now

547
00:35:39,420 --> 00:35:43,440
atonement to happen. But I guess
we have one more sugar clip, if

548
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:45,420
we add number seven, I think
yes, getting to that one.

549
00:35:45,510 --> 00:35:48,420
And I know I'm asking you to
skip over a lot of history here.

550
00:35:48,420 --> 00:35:52,980
But you move forward to today,
to the to the 20th, and even

551
00:35:52,980 --> 00:35:58,260
into the 21st century. And you
write about how the legacy of

552
00:35:58,260 --> 00:36:02,910
what happened in Louisiana and
other places, still plays a role

553
00:36:02,910 --> 00:36:06,510
in the economy, a vital role in
the economy of this country.

554
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:12,990
Well, if we go from sugar to
cotton, we basically explain to

555
00:36:12,990 --> 00:36:18,000
crops that, in their totality
explain much of the

556
00:36:18,030 --> 00:36:22,740
infrastructure of our capitalist
economy to this day, we can

557
00:36:22,770 --> 00:36:26,940
explain everything from the
abundance of land that was

558
00:36:26,940 --> 00:36:29,520
originally held by the
indigenous and the labor of

559
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:34,110
enslaved people as America's
competitive advantage. By the

560
00:36:34,110 --> 00:36:38,190
19th century cotton, for
example, was essentially the

561
00:36:38,220 --> 00:36:42,480
major export of the United
States. And that cotton export,

562
00:36:43,410 --> 00:36:47,790
helped make possible the wealth
not only in enslaved people, but

563
00:36:47,790 --> 00:36:51,690
also the wealth of banks in the
north, that were responsible for

564
00:36:51,690 --> 00:36:54,750
financing investments in this
country there were often

565
00:36:54,750 --> 00:36:58,650
mortgaged on the basis of
enslaved people. There's no way

566
00:36:58,650 --> 00:37:01,230
to really understand the
economic might of America by the

567
00:37:01,230 --> 00:37:04,440
19th century, without
understanding the role of cotton

568
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:06,810
slavery, and earlier sugar
slavery in it.

569
00:37:07,290 --> 00:37:11,190
If I make make a comment, this
is really fascinating. The

570
00:37:11,190 --> 00:37:17,400
American capitalist system which
is is built on credit, debt, and

571
00:37:19,140 --> 00:37:25,290
commodities, really comes from
this comes from this period with

572
00:37:25,290 --> 00:37:30,360
leverage leveraging humans as a
commodity and an asset, directly

573
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:33,540
translated into the white gold
that is sugar and later cotton.

574
00:37:33,540 --> 00:37:36,450
This this is mind blowing. I
love this.

575
00:37:38,490 --> 00:37:42,030
Because sugar brought a man,
yep. But cotton changed the

576
00:37:42,030 --> 00:37:49,710
game. And that's what really, it
really upset the balance of

577
00:37:49,710 --> 00:37:54,210
power between the North and the
South. You already had sugar,

578
00:37:54,210 --> 00:37:59,010
you already had the land in the
south, you already had, you

579
00:37:59,010 --> 00:38:02,640
know, the agriculture, you had
the free labor. And now you

580
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:07,950
thought this thing called cotton
in which cotton? Well, if you

581
00:38:07,950 --> 00:38:09,960
have anything else further to
say, because I don't like to say

582
00:38:09,990 --> 00:38:13,830
I won't. Somebody said about us
interrupting. But that's part of

583
00:38:13,830 --> 00:38:18,000
the show. Yeah, what we do is
because it's like, hey, stop

584
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:19,860
right there, because I don't
want you to gloss over that

585
00:38:19,860 --> 00:38:20,280
point.

586
00:38:20,670 --> 00:38:23,610
So not only that, but I'm just
trying to figure it out. And

587
00:38:23,610 --> 00:38:27,660
this light bulbs are going off
the whole time. So this is this

588
00:38:27,660 --> 00:38:29,940
is how this is how it works.
This is the only way it can

589
00:38:29,940 --> 00:38:30,450
work.

590
00:38:31,290 --> 00:38:37,050
So you we've laid out sugar free
labor. Got America off to a

591
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:38,790
great start. Have a nation.

592
00:38:38,819 --> 00:38:40,019
Yeah, thanks.

593
00:38:41,430 --> 00:38:46,500
There you have the invention of
the cotton gin, and the the

594
00:38:46,950 --> 00:38:48,150
cotton becomes king.

595
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:51,930
Cotton was a centerpiece of life
in the American South for much

596
00:38:51,930 --> 00:38:55,740
of the 19th century, the well
being of every entity in the

597
00:38:55,740 --> 00:38:59,460
region dependent upon the health
of the annual cotton crop. The

598
00:38:59,460 --> 00:39:02,820
vast influence of cotton was
found in virtually every aspect

599
00:39:02,820 --> 00:39:11,640
of southern life. The rise of
the cotton culture during the

600
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:15,570
colonial and federal errors,
upland cotton was not a

601
00:39:15,570 --> 00:39:19,440
profitable crop, because it was
too labor intensive to remove

602
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:23,220
the seeds that changed with the
invention of the cotton engine

603
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:27,630
or gin. In the late 18th
century, when Eli Whitney, a

604
00:39:27,630 --> 00:39:31,500
recent college graduate arrived
at mulberry Grove plantation

605
00:39:31,500 --> 00:39:36,120
near Savannah, Georgia in the
early 1790s. He did not know

606
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:39,090
that he would alter the course
of his young country's history.

607
00:39:39,390 --> 00:39:43,890
The cash crop in Georgia after
the war is going to be tobacco

608
00:39:44,130 --> 00:39:50,610
for the 1780s and 90s. It's only
in the 1800s when they figured

609
00:39:50,610 --> 00:39:54,720
out when you know 7093 is when
Whitney invents the Gen, and

610
00:39:54,720 --> 00:39:57,870
figures out how to get those
pesky seeds out of the center of

611
00:39:57,900 --> 00:40:02,580
upland cotton and it's Only then
that it becomes even profitable.

612
00:40:03,210 --> 00:40:07,410
And so we see this switch over
from tobacco to cotton. But

613
00:40:07,410 --> 00:40:11,520
interestingly, those who had
become successful tobacco

614
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:16,230
planters and who had slaves to
do the work are going to make

615
00:40:16,230 --> 00:40:19,860
that transition to the new crop
very easily. plantation system

616
00:40:19,860 --> 00:40:22,860
is already there. It's just a
different crop, they begin to

617
00:40:22,860 --> 00:40:23,250
grow.

618
00:40:23,910 --> 00:40:28,770
Wow, I also learned something
that sounds really simple. I

619
00:40:28,770 --> 00:40:32,580
never really understood the term
cotton gin. Yet because when I

620
00:40:32,580 --> 00:40:35,700
hear cotton I hear cotton here
gin, I think alcoholic beverage

621
00:40:35,730 --> 00:40:38,010
I never quite understood what
that was. And this may sound

622
00:40:38,130 --> 00:40:41,160
stupid, but now now I hear it
was just an abbreviation for

623
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:43,020
engine. Now Hello.

624
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:47,340
Is what it would do it. As I
said in the video. I mean, as I

625
00:40:47,340 --> 00:40:53,880
said in the clip, your cotton
ball or the bloom had the seeds

626
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:58,770
inside of and it wasn't even
worth the human effort to try to

627
00:40:58,770 --> 00:41:03,570
immune MC right? To make be able
to to convert it to textiles.

628
00:41:03,990 --> 00:41:06,630
But when you have this cotton
gin, come on, I think they said

629
00:41:06,630 --> 00:41:13,050
in 1793 Oh 15 years before this
change, and now we're not gonna

630
00:41:13,050 --> 00:41:15,450
bring any more international
slaves and we're gonna go

631
00:41:15,450 --> 00:41:19,140
domestic. Yes, that might be
connected.

632
00:41:19,620 --> 00:41:24,480
Who knows to this just 10 times
increase in driving? Yes, I

633
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:25,020
gotcha.

634
00:41:25,589 --> 00:41:30,029
So the once the seeds were
removed, it's like, give me all

635
00:41:30,029 --> 00:41:33,629
the cotton I can get my hands on
because now we can use this as

636
00:41:33,629 --> 00:41:40,109
textiles. And that made the
explosion in America. And this

637
00:41:40,109 --> 00:41:43,769
is the case for saying there
would be no modern day American

638
00:41:44,279 --> 00:41:49,889
if it wasn't for these
inventions and the labor there

639
00:41:49,919 --> 00:41:53,969
because you still have to feed
the cotton gin. Yes.

640
00:41:55,980 --> 00:41:59,670
Once the cotton gin was readily
available, and cotton farming

641
00:41:59,670 --> 00:42:04,170
began to boom, the influence of
the crop grew until a touched

642
00:42:04,170 --> 00:42:06,030
every aspect of southern life.

643
00:42:06,570 --> 00:42:10,290
Cotton, as James Sandringham
went across the river said,

644
00:42:10,620 --> 00:42:16,290
became king, and it will
economic policy, labor policy

645
00:42:16,590 --> 00:42:19,140
and politics before it was all.

646
00:42:21,870 --> 00:42:22,980
Raising cotton.

647
00:42:24,930 --> 00:42:28,980
Cotton is a plant that's been
around for 1000s of years con

648
00:42:28,980 --> 00:42:35,010
can only be grown in climates
that have a certain amount of

649
00:42:35,010 --> 00:42:41,160
days of sunny, warm weather.
Cotton had to be hand picked

650
00:42:41,610 --> 00:42:47,310
until the mechanical picker was
introduced in 1927. And it's a

651
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:52,530
very difficult crop to produce.
You basically walk along the

652
00:42:52,530 --> 00:42:58,590
rows bent over and pick these
bowls off one at a time, or very

653
00:42:58,590 --> 00:43:05,010
rough and then tear your hands
up. A experienced cotton picker

654
00:43:05,010 --> 00:43:08,700
in the days before the
mechanical picker could pick 250

655
00:43:08,700 --> 00:43:13,620
pounds of cotton a day. An
average cotton bale weighs 500.

656
00:43:13,710 --> 00:43:18,180
So that gives you some idea of
just how labor intensive it was.

657
00:43:18,180 --> 00:43:22,140
And that's why so many slaves
were necessary for the cotton

658
00:43:22,140 --> 00:43:24,000
industry before the Civil War.

659
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:31,980
What what a what a tragedy that
I watched roots 12 Years a Slave

660
00:43:31,980 --> 00:43:36,060
of course, in many other as you
would call them trauma based

661
00:43:36,060 --> 00:43:40,110
entertainment products. None of
them tells this story.

662
00:43:42,540 --> 00:43:49,020
Average cotton picker could pick
250 pounds of cotton a day. And

663
00:43:49,020 --> 00:43:52,680
it had to be hand picked. So
that's what I'm saying even

664
00:43:52,710 --> 00:43:57,600
before 1927 Which slavery had
will ended or we as we are set

665
00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:02,010
to believe, and we'll end it
right up to that point. So up

666
00:44:02,010 --> 00:44:08,160
until the end of slavery and
1793 I believe is the date who

667
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:12,060
was doing all that cotton
picking you need humans Yeah.

668
00:44:12,240 --> 00:44:15,510
Without without without the so
called Adolf person or black

669
00:44:15,510 --> 00:44:20,100
person. None of this none of
this kicks off. And it's clear

670
00:44:20,100 --> 00:44:23,850
as day cotton became king as so
much so it was one of the

671
00:44:23,850 --> 00:44:28,290
driving factors for
destabilizing you know the union

672
00:44:28,350 --> 00:44:32,070
against the rights and against
the Confederacy. Yep. You know,

673
00:44:32,070 --> 00:44:34,500
confederacy said we got the land
we got the cotton we got the

674
00:44:34,500 --> 00:44:38,490
free labor rockin it here. As
they said in the clip, they

675
00:44:38,490 --> 00:44:43,380
started to dictate political
policy. Now here comes our

676
00:44:43,380 --> 00:44:49,620
claim. The way you shaped your
nation was beneficial to the you

677
00:44:49,620 --> 00:44:57,660
know the the process of slavery.
You are negligent as a nation,

678
00:44:58,140 --> 00:45:06,480
this is our claim. Very simple
cut and dry. So without those

679
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:10,200
black hands picking those little
white balls of cotton, modern

680
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:11,730
day America is not

681
00:45:12,449 --> 00:45:14,699
what it is today. Yeah, of
course.

682
00:45:15,659 --> 00:45:19,079
I'm just, I'm just laying, I'm
just, you have to do this

683
00:45:19,079 --> 00:45:21,869
because you hear so many
arguments. And it's not the

684
00:45:21,869 --> 00:45:24,869
point about arguments, but we
have to what we do here we

685
00:45:24,869 --> 00:45:30,149
defuse, and deflate their
counter narratives. Yeah, to

686
00:45:30,149 --> 00:45:33,899
say, this is what was really
going on. And what I'm using is

687
00:45:34,259 --> 00:45:37,829
just for point of reference,
this is from the American

688
00:45:37,829 --> 00:45:41,369
history through the southern
eyes. So this is not the north,

689
00:45:42,269 --> 00:45:45,989
or north sympathizers painting
this, these are southern ears,

690
00:45:46,319 --> 00:45:50,489
telling you, hey, we wouldn't be
who we was in the south, if it

691
00:45:50,489 --> 00:45:55,889
wasn't for cotton. And by you
know, relation to that, without

692
00:45:55,889 --> 00:45:57,089
the aid of slaves.

693
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:02,040
Yeah, and it benefited the
entire nation

694
00:46:03,540 --> 00:46:07,710
as a whole. With that said, I
mean, you had the Civil War

695
00:46:07,710 --> 00:46:11,550
kickoff, and I'm gonna do a
little fast forwarding here. And

696
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:15,180
the North wasn't doing so well.
So now we gotta go back to

697
00:46:15,180 --> 00:46:18,450
another throwbacks This is those
are all new clips. Now we had to

698
00:46:18,450 --> 00:46:20,700
bring in because this is why I
had to do it kind of

699
00:46:20,700 --> 00:46:25,800
chronologically. Because we were
all over the place. Because we

700
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:29,220
were the show takes us natural
what we do, but now it's a good

701
00:46:29,220 --> 00:46:32,550
time to do some housekeeping,
setting things in order. So when

702
00:46:32,550 --> 00:46:34,770
people hear things, they'll go
back and listen to their

703
00:46:34,770 --> 00:46:38,130
interest in listen to the older
shows. It gives them context of

704
00:46:38,130 --> 00:46:42,780
what we're talking about. Now,
we're talking about Abraham

705
00:46:42,780 --> 00:46:46,410
Lincoln and the what the
Emancipation Proclamation didn't

706
00:46:46,410 --> 00:46:48,000
do. Well, what the Emancipation

707
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:51,660
Proclamation was, was a
presidential proclamation. And

708
00:46:51,660 --> 00:46:55,680
it was part of the war plans. So
that in essence, what the

709
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:59,880
Emancipation Proclamation did
was, Lincoln realized that two

710
00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:03,480
things were happening. One is
that there was a worry that

711
00:47:04,050 --> 00:47:07,410
European nations might support
the Confederacy, there was also

712
00:47:07,410 --> 00:47:10,200
worried about how do we get more
and more people to fight for the

713
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:13,650
Union? Cause after the initial
year, people were saying, Well,

714
00:47:13,650 --> 00:47:15,870
you know what, I'm not sure I
want to fight for this. And

715
00:47:15,870 --> 00:47:19,080
suddenly, Lincoln realized that
he could have an impact on the

716
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:23,010
south, by taking away workers
and labor from the south,

717
00:47:23,220 --> 00:47:27,450
encouraging people to then come
north, join the Union Army, so

718
00:47:27,450 --> 00:47:30,450
therefore, you'd have more
soldiers and add a moral tinge

719
00:47:30,450 --> 00:47:33,420
to the war. So all of that was
behind Lincoln's thinking when

720
00:47:33,420 --> 00:47:35,100
the emancipation was issued,

721
00:47:35,670 --> 00:47:41,580
the untold story of honesty. I
love that. That was such a good

722
00:47:42,330 --> 00:47:48,210
it to bring in a modern context
to that. This is why 45 Savage

723
00:47:48,240 --> 00:47:53,400
says, what he says about Abraham
Lincoln, if you're not saying

724
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:55,650
he's correct, well, he does

725
00:47:55,650 --> 00:47:58,740
the most he does the typical
things that I've done more for

726
00:47:58,740 --> 00:48:03,270
black people than anybody except
Abraham Lincoln, possibly,

727
00:48:03,870 --> 00:48:07,020
possibly seat me knows the
story. He knows what's behind

728
00:48:07,020 --> 00:48:07,320
it.

729
00:48:08,970 --> 00:48:11,850
Just to give a little context of
what's going on, and you know,

730
00:48:11,850 --> 00:48:18,000
and today's time so here's
Abraham Lincoln. Setting slaves

731
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:23,580
free in Confederate States was
an act of war. It had nothing to

732
00:48:23,580 --> 00:48:27,360
do with his you know, his moral
standing

733
00:48:30,150 --> 00:48:34,020
that's episode 37. If anyone
wants to go back and hear the

734
00:48:34,020 --> 00:48:35,400
whole thing, it's well worth it.

735
00:48:35,790 --> 00:48:39,000
And just one more thing he said
in there he had a fear of the

736
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:43,380
European nations supporting the
south Why would they do that?

737
00:48:43,380 --> 00:48:46,260
Because maybe they could get a
good deal on sugar and cotton

738
00:48:46,650 --> 00:48:49,500
the red it's like why go through
the United States government we

739
00:48:49,500 --> 00:48:51,960
can go straight to the
Confederacy right I wish to have

740
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:54,240
a couple of points off but you
know, there's cotton and sugar

741
00:48:54,450 --> 00:49:00,450
you know, if you help us out
this is way bigger than one man

742
00:49:00,450 --> 00:49:07,530
on it and another part on other
people. This is this is this is

743
00:49:07,530 --> 00:49:08,100
America.

744
00:49:09,060 --> 00:49:12,510
This is no this is understanding
the birthing of the country.

745
00:49:14,190 --> 00:49:17,130
And this is why when people say
oh you should have left or why

746
00:49:17,130 --> 00:49:21,180
do you stay in America because
my my lineage helped build this

747
00:49:22,350 --> 00:49:26,880
one cotton ball at a time when
sugar cane at a time if it

748
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:32,190
weren't for those black hands we
have we have we invested in this

749
00:49:32,190 --> 00:49:35,970
nation and we're not going
anywhere and aren't they we and

750
00:49:35,970 --> 00:49:38,550
we're not you know what we're
not even standing still waiting

751
00:49:38,550 --> 00:49:41,370
on reparations that atonement
but that's not to say we don't

752
00:49:41,370 --> 00:49:46,050
have a legal claim to because I
don't I want to get my Eric my

753
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:49,410
everyday live wedding on a
reparations check to come to

754
00:49:49,620 --> 00:49:52,920
know make me thrive or has me

755
00:49:53,250 --> 00:49:56,850
cesspool Has anyone ever brought
this as a legal claim?

756
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:02,040
Yes, Johnnie Cochran, actually
And people want to talk about

757
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:05,820
the OJ Simpson theory and why
they may be, you know, with the

758
00:50:05,820 --> 00:50:10,140
cell phone. And Brian, I think
this was more. This was more

759
00:50:10,140 --> 00:50:13,350
upsetting because he was
actually trying to do it through

760
00:50:13,350 --> 00:50:14,070
a legal claim.

761
00:50:15,599 --> 00:50:18,059
Right. Okay. Well, I don't want
to drag us down.

762
00:50:18,809 --> 00:50:21,479
No, no, I'm glad you asked that
question. Because I am our

763
00:50:22,199 --> 00:50:27,809
bigger fan. Here's, here's how I
see it. If we can get it through

764
00:50:28,979 --> 00:50:31,259
government, as a governor in
government, you know,

765
00:50:31,259 --> 00:50:35,789
politicians, that's one thing.
But if you make it a legal

766
00:50:35,789 --> 00:50:41,069
claim, that you you're your ads
to politicians then is how do

767
00:50:41,069 --> 00:50:45,959
you stand on reparations when
you're selecting judges? Right.

768
00:50:47,279 --> 00:50:49,859
Totally different. Now. We're
saying, let's fast forward to

769
00:50:49,859 --> 00:50:53,609
2020 Everything's about worst
heartache on Roe v. Wade, when

770
00:50:53,609 --> 00:50:58,319
I'm speaking of is the new
Justice there. Yeah. as a

771
00:50:58,319 --> 00:51:02,969
political tool, reparations, we
start asking these people, what

772
00:51:02,969 --> 00:51:06,719
is your what is your? What kind
of judges will you select? When

773
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:11,849
it comes to judgments on
reparations? I'm not looking for

774
00:51:11,849 --> 00:51:14,789
the government to solve this.
Personally, me personally, I

775
00:51:14,789 --> 00:51:17,639
would like to see it not as a
legal claim, because you do it

776
00:51:17,639 --> 00:51:23,249
as a legal claim. You have. And
you get the judges say we okay,

777
00:51:23,249 --> 00:51:26,429
just say if we could get in a
time machine, go back to 2016

778
00:51:26,999 --> 00:51:32,519
and say, Hey, Trump will vote
for you. If you only appoint,

779
00:51:32,819 --> 00:51:34,799
oh, you know, those 100
appointments, you have a federal

780
00:51:34,799 --> 00:51:38,549
judges. And those two or three
justices that you can appoint,

781
00:51:38,789 --> 00:51:42,719
only appoint reparation friendly
judges, right. You have my vote,

782
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:47,549
that's how I look at tangibles
is not necessarily have to be a

783
00:51:47,549 --> 00:51:51,359
check written by the by the
federal government, but you can

784
00:51:51,359 --> 00:51:55,709
do things through governing. And
they will legal means that makes

785
00:51:55,709 --> 00:51:58,709
it easier in the in the court
system. Yes. And I think

786
00:51:58,710 --> 00:52:01,710
that it possibly if the
structure were to go through a

787
00:52:01,710 --> 00:52:04,860
legal process stay individual
states may have different

788
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:11,070
different levels of atonement,
depending on what they were

789
00:52:11,070 --> 00:52:12,630
doing and how they were doing
it.

790
00:52:13,260 --> 00:52:15,540
But if you're part of the Union,
you're part of the Union. Yeah.

791
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:22,560
All right. Yeah, you're
absolutely right. I'm loving it.

792
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:26,130
And you factor in the way that
throwing money around now

793
00:52:26,130 --> 00:52:28,320
trillions of dollars. It's like,
come on, I mean,

794
00:52:29,100 --> 00:52:33,000
oh, no. I mean, it's so obvious
to me that we have to create a

795
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:36,660
Bitcoin for reparations. I mean,
this is a digital wallets for

796
00:52:36,660 --> 00:52:40,110
everybody. That's the That's my
answer. Well, you can print that

797
00:52:40,110 --> 00:52:41,910
money is so easy. Apparently.

798
00:52:43,410 --> 00:52:47,220
It appears that way to me, but
let's not get too far away from

799
00:52:47,250 --> 00:52:51,420
the trail. All right. Now, let's
wrap up with a second clip from

800
00:52:52,290 --> 00:52:53,970
Emancipation Proclamation.

801
00:52:54,180 --> 00:52:59,670
What about the timing of it? Why
did it come when it came on that

802
00:52:59,670 --> 00:53:03,030
day at that time, and as soon as
you were just telling us, the US

803
00:53:03,030 --> 00:53:05,610
was already two years into the
war by the time it was signed?

804
00:53:05,610 --> 00:53:07,050
What why that timing?

805
00:53:07,230 --> 00:53:10,350
Well, what's clear is that
Lincoln felt that if he could

806
00:53:10,380 --> 00:53:13,410
end the war and restore the
Unity without ending slavery,

807
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:17,190
that would be okay for him. But
by the time the Emancipation

808
00:53:17,190 --> 00:53:21,450
Proclamation was issued, Lincoln
realized that he had to do

809
00:53:21,450 --> 00:53:25,260
something bold. And part of the
timing was that he had been

810
00:53:25,260 --> 00:53:29,760
working on this for the whole
summer. But he realized that he

811
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:33,690
didn't have the sort of moral
power to let this go until there

812
00:53:33,690 --> 00:53:36,930
was a Union victory. Because
after all, what happened was if

813
00:53:36,930 --> 00:53:39,420
he had announced the resolution
proclamation, and then there was

814
00:53:39,420 --> 00:53:43,020
a battle where the Union lost,
it would seem like just words on

815
00:53:43,020 --> 00:53:46,050
a paper. So what he did was he
waited to release the

816
00:53:46,050 --> 00:53:49,050
Emancipation till after they won
the victory and Antietam in

817
00:53:49,050 --> 00:53:54,810
1862. That then made it seem in
the minds of many Europeans not

818
00:53:55,020 --> 00:53:58,620
that the union was winning, and
it gave more power more moral

819
00:53:58,620 --> 00:54:00,030
authority to the Emancipation

820
00:54:00,240 --> 00:54:06,750
honest a was a was a douche. She
did have a moral fiber in his

821
00:54:06,750 --> 00:54:07,920
body apparently.

822
00:54:10,140 --> 00:54:13,320
He said it, he said and he said
more and we're gonna get into

823
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:16,110
that. So we don't really have to
linger on that clip too much.

824
00:54:16,110 --> 00:54:19,620
But I just want to paint this
picture of one Emancipation

825
00:54:19,620 --> 00:54:23,970
Proclamation did not bring any
slaves in the union. So I just

826
00:54:23,970 --> 00:54:27,120
want to emphasize I want to
address one thing, this three

827
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:30,330
fifths a person Yes, three
fifths the person thing was from

828
00:54:30,330 --> 00:54:34,230
the Union or the Union states at
the time because when they

829
00:54:34,230 --> 00:54:36,180
wanted to count you know, I
think for the House of

830
00:54:36,180 --> 00:54:42,210
Representatives, and it gets a
little foggy but to me, but they

831
00:54:42,210 --> 00:54:45,450
want it the south wanted to
count each slave as a person.

832
00:54:45,660 --> 00:54:48,450
But in that time, it was like
okay, now you want to count me

833
00:54:48,450 --> 00:54:51,810
as a person but I'm a property
me like on property when you

834
00:54:51,810 --> 00:54:54,780
it's beneficial for you. But
then when it's not been an issue

835
00:54:54,780 --> 00:54:58,380
for you. You want me to be a
human? But then the norm was

836
00:54:58,380 --> 00:55:00,780
like no, no, no, no, no, you
can't Don't do that. And then

837
00:55:00,780 --> 00:55:03,360
they compromise what I call the
three fifths compromise,

838
00:55:03,390 --> 00:55:04,950
you can't be a full human.

839
00:55:06,180 --> 00:55:09,570
So just to go to show you the
difference between the union and

840
00:55:09,570 --> 00:55:12,360
a Confederate and I'm not poker
Federer in any way, I'm just

841
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:15,540
going to lay these things out as
just so we can have a better

842
00:55:15,540 --> 00:55:21,600
understanding of the narrative
of Abraham Lincoln, the great

843
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:28,890
liberator he was drug are pulled
or as the next person that's

844
00:55:28,890 --> 00:55:35,160
gonna speak Mr. LeBron Bennett
Jr. He said He was whipped into

845
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:40,560
morality, title on the book is
Abraham Lincoln's white dream.

846
00:55:40,860 --> 00:55:41,730
What's that mean?

847
00:55:42,330 --> 00:55:49,770
It means that contrary to what
most people think, Abraham

848
00:55:49,770 --> 00:55:58,080
Lincoln's deepest desire was to
deport all black people, and

849
00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:04,110
create an all white nation. It
sounds like a wild idea now, and

850
00:56:04,110 --> 00:56:09,090
it is a wild idea. But from
about 1800 52 until his death,

851
00:56:09,810 --> 00:56:16,320
he worked feverishly to try to
create deportation plans

852
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:21,270
colonization plans, to send
black people either to Africa,

853
00:56:21,540 --> 00:56:25,470
or to South Africa, South
America, onto the islands of the

854
00:56:25,470 --> 00:56:30,600
sea, on December the first
18 162, in which he asked

855
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:34,260
Congress to pass three
constitutional amendments, one

856
00:56:34,260 --> 00:56:39,480
to buy the slaves second, to
declare free all people who had

857
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:42,930
actually escaped, but the third
one, his proposed 15th

858
00:56:42,930 --> 00:56:48,330
amendment, asked Congress to
allocate money to deport black

859
00:56:48,330 --> 00:56:50,070
people to another place

860
00:56:50,490 --> 00:56:54,150
wasn't at the like, as something
off the coast of Georgia didn't

861
00:56:54,150 --> 00:56:55,590
wasn't at the plan at the time.

862
00:56:56,640 --> 00:57:00,450
I think, you know, I think that
confused Jekyll Island?

863
00:57:01,710 --> 00:57:05,010
No, I thought there was also
that his idea was he wanted to

864
00:57:05,010 --> 00:57:08,100
purchase some land. And that's
where we deport everybody to.

865
00:57:08,820 --> 00:57:12,030
Now, I think it was Panama, if
I'm not mistaken, he wanted us

866
00:57:12,030 --> 00:57:12,360
out.

867
00:57:12,780 --> 00:57:14,250
Out, move them down.

868
00:57:14,820 --> 00:57:18,120
The reason why though, if we're
looking at the context of what

869
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:22,140
we just covered in the previous
clips, if you leave the black

870
00:57:22,170 --> 00:57:29,700
there, and you free him, that's
still a source of labor. And if

871
00:57:29,700 --> 00:57:33,780
you're trying to destabilize the
South, you have to remove their

872
00:57:34,230 --> 00:57:36,000
livelihood. Yeah, exactly.

873
00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:40,590
Because if you don't, then then
they'll just rise again. So that

874
00:57:40,590 --> 00:57:42,150
so that was still outside
intended.

875
00:57:42,210 --> 00:57:48,420
Right? Right. So that actually
wasn't even. None of this is

876
00:57:48,420 --> 00:57:51,990
from from a racist standpoint,
he was just like, how do I screw

877
00:57:51,990 --> 00:57:54,240
the South? Alright, let's take
those. Let's take them all out.

878
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:55,560
Let's move them out of the
country.

879
00:57:56,820 --> 00:58:00,750
Well, Abraham Lincoln has his
own thoughts that having an all

880
00:58:00,750 --> 00:58:01,650
white nation,

881
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:07,320
and I make the point also, and
almost everything I say in here

882
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:10,890
I take from Lincoln from
documents of the time. It was

883
00:58:10,890 --> 00:58:17,460
not just he wants to push black
people out. He had an idea of

884
00:58:17,460 --> 00:58:22,230
this great giant vacuum sound,
black people leaving and white

885
00:58:22,230 --> 00:58:26,100
people from all over the world,
coming here and creating this

886
00:58:26,190 --> 00:58:31,230
all White nation. It's another
back I say as you know, in his I

887
00:58:31,230 --> 00:58:38,310
Have a Dream speech at Alton,
Illinois. And 18 158 He called

888
00:58:38,310 --> 00:58:43,830
for a haven of White Haven for
free white people everywhere.

889
00:58:44,100 --> 00:58:46,890
The world over now these are
Lincoln's were. And the

890
00:58:46,890 --> 00:58:50,460
interesting thing about that is
that he underlined these four

891
00:58:50,460 --> 00:58:55,590
words free, white people
everywhere he underlined. This

892
00:58:55,590 --> 00:58:59,640
was his I Have a Dream speech.
He was passionately committed

893
00:58:59,730 --> 00:59:04,170
to, to deporting black people
and creating a White nation, let

894
00:59:04,170 --> 00:59:11,070
me say extenuation. He believed
that that was the only way to

895
00:59:11,070 --> 00:59:15,390
solve the race problem. I found
that offensive and strange. But

896
00:59:15,390 --> 00:59:18,960
he believed that that was the
only way to solve the race race

897
00:59:18,990 --> 00:59:23,130
problem. He said over and over
again, he did not believe that

898
00:59:23,130 --> 00:59:26,970
black people and white people
could live together inequality

899
00:59:27,300 --> 00:59:28,710
in the United States of America.

900
00:59:29,220 --> 00:59:33,630
Was this the House Divided
speech? Was that the one? Ah,

901
00:59:33,780 --> 00:59:36,660
no, I don't believe so. Okay. I
will

902
00:59:36,660 --> 00:59:38,520
pay no attention to me then. No.

903
00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:44,160
No, the points I want to make is
with the what he's saying about

904
00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:50,640
Abraham Lincoln is he wanted to
get all black people out who

905
00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:53,850
will be the new bottom because
there always has to be a bottom

906
00:59:53,850 --> 01:00:01,320
right. white southerners
everybody Yesterday, bro aim,

907
01:00:01,950 --> 01:00:04,200
because you always have that but
the white South I'm sure it's

908
01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:07,890
like Hold on. Wait, get rid of
our motto.

909
01:00:09,150 --> 01:00:12,210
Exactly. Otherwise Wait, who
becomes the bottom when ours is

910
01:00:12,210 --> 01:00:13,200
gone? Oh,

911
01:00:13,410 --> 01:00:17,730
just just one and it infuriates
me when these a lot of these

912
01:00:17,730 --> 01:00:23,100
smart talking heads go on with
their Ivy League education and

913
01:00:23,100 --> 01:00:27,150
lament about all honest a How
could trump say he's better than

914
01:00:27,150 --> 01:00:33,060
an honest eighth? And I'm not
supporting Trump here. I'm just

915
01:00:33,060 --> 01:00:36,780
saying, if you know what I know
this by looking at hearsay

916
01:00:36,780 --> 01:00:41,340
videos on C span and reading
books by you know, by LeBron

917
01:00:41,340 --> 01:00:46,290
Bennett Jr. on his a wasn't that
honest, and he wasn't that

918
01:00:46,290 --> 01:00:47,940
beneficial to black people.

919
01:00:48,930 --> 01:00:52,920
But didn't didn't seem like he
was hiding it. Yet at all. And

920
01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:56,010
no one was talking about that no
one no one was worried about him

921
01:00:56,010 --> 01:00:59,280
being racist back in the day.
They were just worried about the

922
01:00:59,310 --> 01:01:01,830
the numbers and the financials
and the mechanics of it.

923
01:01:02,730 --> 01:01:06,540
And that's what frustrates me
yeah, you hear these talking

924
01:01:06,540 --> 01:01:09,210
heads go on television. And
that's why it's even more

925
01:01:09,210 --> 01:01:12,060
dangerous when it's people that
look like me would not share my

926
01:01:12,060 --> 01:01:19,080
lineage. It's not are you doing
this? Honestly, are you up to

927
01:01:19,080 --> 01:01:24,150
this, to keep us in this mental
slavery that we're in? Well, I

928
01:01:24,150 --> 01:01:24,870
when I say this,

929
01:01:25,379 --> 01:01:28,559
I would posit that a lot of the
talking heads you're talking

930
01:01:28,559 --> 01:01:33,539
about have been programmed into
thinking this way. So the the

931
01:01:33,539 --> 01:01:37,199
actual evil comes from where
that the narrative has developed

932
01:01:37,199 --> 01:01:38,189
and is being taught.

933
01:01:39,690 --> 01:01:45,600
True. Very true. And that's at
these liberal universities.

934
01:01:47,340 --> 01:01:50,730
Among all the facts here, I
mean, just dig it, look it up.

935
01:01:50,790 --> 01:01:58,470
It's in the book. Um, so now we
have to go to the actual 1619

936
01:01:58,500 --> 01:02:02,370
project and a podcast they have.
And this is going to cover now

937
01:02:02,370 --> 01:02:07,290
coming. Let me let me fill in
the blanks here. As there was

938
01:02:07,290 --> 01:02:11,430
one story where a general had
taken on a bunch of runaway

939
01:02:11,430 --> 01:02:15,720
slaves, but they were weighing
down on his resources, and the

940
01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:19,320
confederacy of Confederate
troops were hot pursuit. And he

941
01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:22,860
had to make a decision. Do I
keep carrying these people on

942
01:02:22,860 --> 01:02:27,660
with me, and they use up all my
resources or union on general?

943
01:02:28,170 --> 01:02:31,770
Or do I get rid of them in some
way. So they come to this

944
01:02:31,770 --> 01:02:36,510
bridge, maybe come to this creek
is too deep to cross and too

945
01:02:36,510 --> 01:02:40,560
wide, they call it cross without
a bridge. The Union soldiers go

946
01:02:40,560 --> 01:02:43,500
across the bridge. Now this is
covered in Episode 36. You can

947
01:02:43,500 --> 01:02:48,930
hear hope was not spoiler alert.
But this is from the 1619 Park

948
01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:51,870
official podcast from New York
Times, of course, they get to

949
01:02:51,870 --> 01:02:55,920
the bridge, they cross, then
they pulled the bridge up and

950
01:02:55,920 --> 01:03:00,330
leave the runaway slaves to be
slaughtered and recaptured by

951
01:03:00,330 --> 01:03:04,560
the Confederate soldiers. Now, I
say all this to say now, this is

952
01:03:04,560 --> 01:03:08,340
where we get to next to the
clips. And this is what happens

953
01:03:08,730 --> 01:03:11,310
after the word gets back about
this event.

954
01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:15,600
When work gets back to Lincoln
Secretary of War, Edwin Stanton,

955
01:03:15,810 --> 01:03:20,610
he is outraged. He has Charmin
pulled together a meeting with

956
01:03:20,610 --> 01:03:25,080
20 Black church leaders. There's
a transcript of this meeting.

957
01:03:25,260 --> 01:03:29,460
And it shows that these two men
Stanton and Charmin actually

958
01:03:29,460 --> 01:03:33,030
turned to this group of black
leaders and asked them, What do

959
01:03:33,030 --> 01:03:39,180
you want for your own people.
Speaking for the group, one of

960
01:03:39,180 --> 01:03:43,080
the men tells them, the way we
can best take care of ourselves

961
01:03:43,320 --> 01:03:49,890
is to have land and turn it
until it's by our own labor.

962
01:03:50,250 --> 01:03:54,150
That is by the labor of the
women and children and old men,

963
01:03:54,570 --> 01:03:57,810
and we can soon maintain
ourselves and have something to

964
01:03:57,810 --> 01:03:58,290
spare.

965
01:04:02,280 --> 01:04:06,660
This is where 40 acres and a
mule came Of course, yeah. And

966
01:04:06,660 --> 01:04:10,770
the original claim. And it was
made to the north, not the

967
01:04:10,770 --> 01:04:13,110
South. That's that's the idea

968
01:04:13,140 --> 01:04:17,400
crazy as it has, I mean, how
history and that as we're

969
01:04:17,400 --> 01:04:19,890
talking about narrative has just
been distorted and flipped

970
01:04:19,890 --> 01:04:22,770
around throughout history.
That's, that's very, very

971
01:04:23,040 --> 01:04:24,330
interesting and disturbing.

972
01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:30,240
And I want to make one quick
aside. Because you always say

973
01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:32,670
this, you just say you always
gotta have your own platform,

974
01:04:32,670 --> 01:04:35,310
right? I mean, you can't be
dependent upon, you know,

975
01:04:35,310 --> 01:04:38,490
YouTube or whoever else is gonna
fill in the blank platform

976
01:04:38,490 --> 01:04:42,090
because they can they can own
you in a way they do own you.

977
01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:46,260
Yes, they this is what the
slaves were saying or the free

978
01:04:46,260 --> 01:04:50,370
slaves were saying, we want our
own land. You know, we don't

979
01:04:50,370 --> 01:04:54,060
want if we have our own land and
we can produce and you know,

980
01:04:54,060 --> 01:04:58,740
grow our own cotton and sugar
and cash crops and come in and

981
01:04:58,740 --> 01:05:03,060
compete and compete. So I just
want to lay that out there to

982
01:05:03,060 --> 01:05:07,650
people. It's important that
independent and I hate to say

983
01:05:07,650 --> 01:05:14,940
this, but more media exists
because we're able to go outside

984
01:05:14,940 --> 01:05:18,450
the narrative. And we really
can't be like, shut down away

985
01:05:18,450 --> 01:05:23,160
because of the producers that
keep us going test. I just want

986
01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:25,860
to point that out, you got to
have your own land. I mean, now

987
01:05:25,860 --> 01:05:31,950
it's digital land. Its property
nonetheless. So let's wrap up

988
01:05:31,950 --> 01:05:35,070
with the last 1619 podcast clip.

989
01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:45,150
And what's remarkable is that
Charmin turns that request of

990
01:05:45,150 --> 01:05:49,500
those men for land to work for
themselves into a Government

991
01:05:49,500 --> 01:05:56,010
Order. Special Order Number 15.
It said that the government

992
01:05:56,010 --> 01:06:00,300
would take 400,000 acres that it
had seized from the Confederacy

993
01:06:00,540 --> 01:06:04,080
and split it up among those
1000s of newly emancipated

994
01:06:04,080 --> 01:06:07,950
people. This becomes what is
perhaps the most famous

995
01:06:07,980 --> 01:06:12,300
provision of the Reconstruction
period, which we all know as 40

996
01:06:12,300 --> 01:06:17,790
acres and a mule. President
Lincoln approves the order, but

997
01:06:17,790 --> 01:06:22,680
soon after he's assassinated.
And Andrew Johnson, a Southerner

998
01:06:22,680 --> 01:06:25,590
who had once enslaved people
himself, take some of the

999
01:06:25,590 --> 01:06:31,170
presidency and quickly overturns
it. And within a few short

1000
01:06:31,170 --> 01:06:34,470
months, the small amount of land
that had been distributed to

1001
01:06:34,470 --> 01:06:41,040
black people was returned to
white Southerners. Oh

1002
01:06:43,020 --> 01:06:46,410
how inconvenient is little bits
of history that we dig up

1003
01:06:48,540 --> 01:06:51,480
we've been at war with the south
all this time. I

1004
01:06:52,620 --> 01:06:53,670
didn't even know it really

1005
01:06:54,240 --> 01:06:57,120
confiscate the land. I'm saying
confiscate them. I'm speaking

1006
01:06:57,120 --> 01:07:01,290
from the point of the Union.
Yeah, confiscate the land, and

1007
01:07:01,290 --> 01:07:05,280
ready to give it to black people
who have been wronged or so

1008
01:07:05,280 --> 01:07:09,180
called Black people aid us. We
ready to give back to the

1009
01:07:09,180 --> 01:07:09,780
Southerners.

1010
01:07:10,170 --> 01:07:11,670
How nice is that?

1011
01:07:12,569 --> 01:07:16,259
You tapped me out. We're not
supposed to take this personally

1012
01:07:16,259 --> 01:07:16,919
on a level.

1013
01:07:18,720 --> 01:07:22,530
Yeah, totally. This is such a
good way to do this. I really

1014
01:07:22,530 --> 01:07:26,640
like it's even better than those
30 637 episodes. It's just a lot

1015
01:07:26,640 --> 01:07:28,800
more coming just coming
together. For me. I love it.

1016
01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:31,410
It's the people used to listen
to the show twice, sometimes

1017
01:07:31,410 --> 01:07:32,880
just to catch all the nuance.

1018
01:07:34,380 --> 01:07:38,100
Yeah. And so what I said in the
previous clip to this one is

1019
01:07:38,100 --> 01:07:44,250
that we have to have all land,
which we do, you know, we have

1020
01:07:44,250 --> 01:07:50,700
our own thing here. But to keep
that going is nothing but by the

1021
01:07:50,700 --> 01:07:52,410
producers who keep us going.

1022
01:07:52,440 --> 01:07:56,430
They do indeed. And we always
like to let everybody know we're

1023
01:07:56,430 --> 01:07:59,520
about to thank them by bringing
out one of our favorite clips. I

1024
01:07:59,520 --> 01:07:59,820
like

1025
01:07:59,820 --> 01:08:02,460
new money. I don't know if you
do but I hate old money that's

1026
01:08:02,460 --> 01:08:07,260
wrinkled and dirty and got all
the diseases on it. I like new

1027
01:08:07,260 --> 01:08:12,600
money. And when I give when I
give things to people, I like to

1028
01:08:12,600 --> 01:08:17,250
give stacks of money. It's fun.
You ever had a stack of new

1029
01:08:17,250 --> 01:08:30,360
money? Heavy? You haven't had a
little snack? Oh and so I made

1030
01:08:30,360 --> 01:08:33,120
the on the big stack where it
was brand new and I like brand

1031
01:08:33,120 --> 01:08:37,020
new money. I just I don't want
any money around me. It's not. I

1032
01:08:37,020 --> 01:08:40,470
don't want to have a new one
than a brand than an old 20.

1033
01:08:41,280 --> 01:08:43,980
That's kind of dumb. But there's
something about new money that

1034
01:08:43,980 --> 01:08:50,280
excites you like $100 bills. owe
money to the most beautiful

1035
01:08:50,280 --> 01:08:52,980
thing on earth is $100. Bill, I
haven't seen a woman is good

1036
01:08:52,980 --> 01:08:55,950
looking at $100 bill. There's
something about a bill

1037
01:08:55,980 --> 01:08:56,580
excitement.

1038
01:08:58,350 --> 01:09:01,890
That's right. We love brand new
money stacks of dollar bills.

1039
01:09:01,890 --> 01:09:05,460
And there's no way we could ever
make this show work with

1040
01:09:05,670 --> 01:09:09,510
advertisements or any commercial
sponsorships because it is just

1041
01:09:09,510 --> 01:09:13,530
too controversial. And it always
winds up where people want to

1042
01:09:13,530 --> 01:09:16,050
control what you say if they
have control over your income.

1043
01:09:16,050 --> 01:09:19,470
So we decided to run this and
produce this as a value for

1044
01:09:19,470 --> 01:09:23,220
value production, which means
you can contribute whatever

1045
01:09:23,220 --> 01:09:26,100
value you get out of listening
to the show. You can give it

1046
01:09:26,100 --> 01:09:30,030
back in time, talent or
treasure. All of them are valid

1047
01:09:30,030 --> 01:09:33,630
and sometimes people pack it all
up into one just in the donation

1048
01:09:33,630 --> 01:09:36,600
notes alone. So we want to thank
what we call our executive

1049
01:09:36,600 --> 01:09:40,110
producers. And along with that
also our Associate Executive

1050
01:09:40,110 --> 01:09:43,650
producers for episode number 50
of Mo facts with Adam curry and

1051
01:09:43,920 --> 01:09:48,270
it being episode number 50.
Automatically anyone who did the

1052
01:09:48,270 --> 01:09:52,860
$50 to be an Associate Executive
producer will also be an episode

1053
01:09:52,860 --> 01:09:56,100
and a member of the episode club
which only comes around one once

1054
01:09:56,100 --> 01:10:00,150
in a while and we'll kick it off
with the top supporter For

1055
01:10:00,150 --> 01:10:04,530
today, our number one executive
producer is Hey idiot. A lot of

1056
01:10:04,530 --> 01:10:09,150
people have no agenda would know
him as Baron Hey, idiots. And he

1057
01:10:09,150 --> 01:10:12,960
says this is a mate good for a
pledge of $10 per episode of the

1058
01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:16,980
MO facts podcast, which he I
guess he made that pledge to

1059
01:10:16,980 --> 01:10:21,690
himself. And he says, I would
like you to undead dead beat me

1060
01:10:21,870 --> 01:10:24,960
and provide me with some more
karma. And thank you so much for

1061
01:10:24,960 --> 01:10:28,860
doing the work. And all I can
say is, Hey, idiot, Baron

1062
01:10:28,860 --> 01:10:31,860
hadiah. Thank you. We really
appreciate it.

1063
01:10:33,510 --> 01:10:41,160
Congratulations, you're no
longer dead. You've got a

1064
01:10:44,070 --> 01:10:48,510
great way to kick it off. We
really appreciate that. Baron

1065
01:10:48,510 --> 01:10:53,580
Hey idiot, Matthew mess. Messrs
sent us $250 Slow Mo anatomy

1066
01:10:53,580 --> 01:10:56,430
says congratulations, I show
number 50. I've been listening

1067
01:10:56,430 --> 01:10:59,550
to the show since early March.
Your show has been an invaluable

1068
01:10:59,550 --> 01:11:02,460
resource to help guide me
through the Rona and the BLM

1069
01:11:02,460 --> 01:11:05,940
Movement. There have been so
many eye opening moments over

1070
01:11:05,940 --> 01:11:08,940
the last 49 episodes, I can't
wait each week to hear what Moe

1071
01:11:08,940 --> 01:11:12,150
will have for us all. I finally
made it through the show backlog

1072
01:11:12,150 --> 01:11:15,090
and decided it was time for me
to step up and fulfill my part

1073
01:11:15,240 --> 01:11:18,570
of the value for value model by
giving you guys $5 For every

1074
01:11:18,570 --> 01:11:22,410
episode so far, wow, it's cool.
Your information is worth way

1075
01:11:22,410 --> 01:11:24,630
more than that. But I got to
start somewhere. And then again,

1076
01:11:24,630 --> 01:11:28,440
I'll say, that's the value.
That's a lot of money for you

1077
01:11:28,590 --> 01:11:31,530
that this value, no one can
determine what that's worth to

1078
01:11:31,530 --> 01:11:35,160
you than you. So that is perfect
for us. And we appreciate it. As

1079
01:11:35,160 --> 01:11:38,070
a single male in his mid 20s I
got a decent amount of free time

1080
01:11:38,070 --> 01:11:40,890
on my hands. And I'm interested
in finding ways to spend my

1081
01:11:40,890 --> 01:11:43,860
extra time bringing a positive
impact to my community. I'm

1082
01:11:43,860 --> 01:11:47,160
especially passionate about
providing a positive male role

1083
01:11:47,160 --> 01:11:50,970
model experience to young boys
lives. I had a lot of positive

1084
01:11:50,970 --> 01:11:54,330
male role male role models in my
life growing up and we'd like to

1085
01:11:54,330 --> 01:11:57,870
provide that to others who don't
have that privilege. Yes, parent

1086
01:11:57,870 --> 01:12:01,020
privilege is a big with us. I've
looked into the Big Brothers Big

1087
01:12:01,020 --> 01:12:03,330
Sisters organization, but
unfortunately with the Rona,

1088
01:12:03,330 --> 01:12:05,490
they're not accepting new
volunteers. I was wondering if

1089
01:12:05,490 --> 01:12:09,150
you had any ideas, a good
organization to donate my time

1090
01:12:09,150 --> 01:12:11,730
to any ideas you have would be
greatly appreciated. Best

1091
01:12:11,730 --> 01:12:15,150
regards, sir dude named Matt,
Matt Messer, and again, thank

1092
01:12:15,150 --> 01:12:18,780
you, Matt, for your for your
support. Big Brothers Big

1093
01:12:18,780 --> 01:12:22,560
Sisters. I know. I've been both
actually a little brother and a

1094
01:12:22,560 --> 01:12:25,980
big brother in the past. I don't
know what else is out there. Do

1095
01:12:25,980 --> 01:12:26,700
you know of anything?

1096
01:12:27,389 --> 01:12:35,159
Your family? I'm sure. So right,
man. So I say this to people all

1097
01:12:35,159 --> 01:12:38,309
the time. Like, for me
personally. It's like what are

1098
01:12:38,309 --> 01:12:41,549
you doing for the community? Mo?
I'm like, Okay, I'll start with

1099
01:12:41,549 --> 01:12:45,179
my kids. If I have any free time
left, I deal with my nieces and

1100
01:12:45,179 --> 01:12:50,339
nephews cousins. You know about
time I get down the line. I'm

1101
01:12:50,339 --> 01:12:55,619
out of time. That to a lot of
people there's people that you

1102
01:12:55,619 --> 01:12:59,309
deal with every day that you
could be role models for maybe

1103
01:12:59,309 --> 01:13:01,379
you don't know about maybe it's
the distant cousin that you

1104
01:13:01,379 --> 01:13:03,869
don't know about. So start start
with your family. That's that's

1105
01:13:03,869 --> 01:13:04,589
my suggestion.

1106
01:13:04,680 --> 01:13:09,030
Excellent idea. Do you want 25
from Steven page Hey, Mo it's my

1107
01:13:09,030 --> 01:13:12,960
birthday October 2 Things are
rocky rocky again and things

1108
01:13:12,960 --> 01:13:16,560
slow slow down at work. So I
could use a mo Carmen would like

1109
01:13:16,560 --> 01:13:20,850
to place collard greens and ham
at the dinner table. My friend

1110
01:13:20,880 --> 01:13:23,640
Carrie always jokes about us
opening up a soul food joint and

1111
01:13:23,640 --> 01:13:28,710
call it hunky lips with
favorites like white dog. Do he

1112
01:13:28,710 --> 01:13:34,080
bite hot dog? White Hot Dog do
we bite hot dog on a white piece

1113
01:13:34,080 --> 01:13:36,900
of bread? I teased him all the
time when I make greens and

1114
01:13:36,900 --> 01:13:40,380
sloppy joes and send them pics.
Public disclaimers are meager

1115
01:13:40,380 --> 01:13:43,740
page BLM Atlanta is not related
and has never been related to

1116
01:13:43,740 --> 01:13:45,060
the page family of

1117
01:13:48,690 --> 01:13:49,470
Google in

1118
01:13:49,500 --> 01:13:55,590
Google land goosh goosh mo ko
Hello. Dutch in Dutch. Anyways,

1119
01:13:55,920 --> 01:13:58,740
Virginia. Do you know what that
is? A county that's near

1120
01:13:58,740 --> 01:14:00,660
you is not I don't know what
that's? Yeah, I don't know where

1121
01:14:00,660 --> 01:14:04,500
goo goo land is I had to look it
up googling County. I will have

1122
01:14:04,500 --> 01:14:05,100
to look that up.

1123
01:14:05,370 --> 01:14:10,260
Okay, so Stephen wants a jobs,
jobs jobs and a WUSA we can do

1124
01:14:10,260 --> 01:14:10,710
that

1125
01:14:10,770 --> 01:14:16,080
jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's
vote for jobs.

1126
01:14:22,110 --> 01:14:29,040
On word to James Turner 193. And
James sent us a note monad and

1127
01:14:29,040 --> 01:14:30,990
other rownum Oh, migrant here
I've been listening since

1128
01:14:30,990 --> 01:14:34,500
episode 39 or 40 and have waited
for a nice round number to

1129
01:14:34,500 --> 01:14:37,800
donate. So 50 It is thanks for
all you guys do on the podcast.

1130
01:14:37,800 --> 01:14:40,620
It's nice to know that after
listening, that I was never a

1131
01:14:40,620 --> 01:14:43,590
complete idiot when it comes to
concepts of race in America but

1132
01:14:43,590 --> 01:14:47,250
the conversations you to have
and most nuanced definitely high

1133
01:14:47,280 --> 01:14:50,490
highlight aspects of either not
fully considered or not fully

1134
01:14:50,490 --> 01:14:53,850
understood as a white guy who
grew up in the rural south,

1135
01:14:54,060 --> 01:14:57,180
though spent my entire adult
life in urban settings. I

1136
01:14:57,180 --> 01:15:00,900
currently reside in Louisville,
Louisville cola He says give me

1137
01:15:00,900 --> 01:15:06,360
pronouncing pronunciation guide
Louisville, L O L VUL. But I'm

1138
01:15:06,360 --> 01:15:09,270
sending a year I'm spending a
year working for the government

1139
01:15:09,270 --> 01:15:11,100
in the Middle East. It's
difficult to watch what's

1140
01:15:11,100 --> 01:15:14,100
transpiring back there and
causes great concern for family

1141
01:15:14,100 --> 01:15:17,850
and friends so close to the
demonstration slash riots. If we

1142
01:15:17,850 --> 01:15:20,310
could get a few more folks
listening to the conversations

1143
01:15:20,310 --> 01:15:23,580
on mo fax, maybe we could quell
some of the foolishness and

1144
01:15:23,580 --> 01:15:26,640
focus on what matters. I know
the folks in Louisville could

1145
01:15:26,640 --> 01:15:28,920
use a good dose of your
conversations that might help

1146
01:15:28,920 --> 01:15:32,970
them identify who is there to
mourn and express frustration

1147
01:15:32,970 --> 01:15:36,300
who was there to foment unrest?
And who was there willing to

1148
01:15:36,300 --> 01:15:39,990
make things better? There are
lots of good people and there

1149
01:15:39,990 --> 01:15:42,720
that have the ability to come
together and make things better

1150
01:15:42,990 --> 01:15:46,170
if they can separate themselves
from those that seek to sow sow

1151
01:15:46,200 --> 01:15:49,410
unrest, whether from the far
left or right, could I get a

1152
01:15:49,410 --> 01:15:52,440
deep dead beating and a little
more karma for the folks in

1153
01:15:52,440 --> 01:15:55,710
Louisville dealing with the
unrest and having to unlearn to

1154
01:15:55,710 --> 01:15:58,440
likewise live with the COVID
response of a pandering and

1155
01:15:58,440 --> 01:16:01,920
overly ambitious governor. Keep
up the great work. Thanks again

1156
01:16:01,920 --> 01:16:05,910
for what you do here. This is
Jim Turner. PS. Adam, I'm not in

1157
01:16:05,910 --> 01:16:08,640
show business, but I do
understand how slash why people

1158
01:16:08,640 --> 01:16:12,180
show up as guests on TV, radio
or podcast. Regardless, you're

1159
01:16:12,180 --> 01:16:18,420
painting me as a dumbass. Agenda
1250 I have no idea what I said.

1160
01:16:19,050 --> 01:16:22,800
But I apologize. I don't think I
ever intended you to say you're

1161
01:16:22,800 --> 01:16:26,280
a dumbass. But I have to go back
and listen to it and of course

1162
01:16:26,280 --> 01:16:28,110
we have your request ready, sir?

1163
01:16:29,970 --> 01:16:42,180
Congratulations. You're no
longer a deadbeat. David McNally

1164
01:16:42,180 --> 01:16:47,400
McCann Magana Lee sends us $100
A says that $50 times two for

1165
01:16:47,400 --> 01:16:50,880
the 50 episodes times to great
tutors and hosts thank you both

1166
01:16:51,060 --> 01:16:56,100
sir Davey of the sooner stage
and we thank you sir. Dame J of

1167
01:16:56,100 --> 01:16:59,520
the angry clouds, who actually
would like to be credited as no

1168
01:16:59,520 --> 01:17:02,220
agenda Dame J of the angry
clouds. I'm no longer a

1169
01:17:02,220 --> 01:17:04,950
deadbeat. Thanks to both of you
for doing the work. Well, I

1170
01:17:05,250 --> 01:17:06,120
gotta give you this.

1171
01:17:06,630 --> 01:17:11,910
Congratulation. You're no longer
a deadbeat.

1172
01:17:12,360 --> 01:17:16,440
Our next executive producer is
Chism. Cooke, Moe says Chisholm.

1173
01:17:16,470 --> 01:17:19,530
I'm sure you've heard this a lot
lady lately, but I'm one of your

1174
01:17:19,560 --> 01:17:26,730
new followers via the JRE rabbit
hole. Yes, a Jomo. Jomo

1175
01:17:27,180 --> 01:17:30,330
producer. I've been obsessing
about the obvious cultural war

1176
01:17:30,330 --> 01:17:34,410
against manhood for years now. I
had these disjointed thoughts,

1177
01:17:34,440 --> 01:17:37,470
observations, concerns that are
often hard to thread together

1178
01:17:37,470 --> 01:17:40,350
and even harder to convey to
others. I just want to say thank

1179
01:17:40,350 --> 01:17:42,780
you very much for stitching
together this quilt of

1180
01:17:42,780 --> 01:17:46,860
deception, and for confirming
that I'm not in fact, insane.

1181
01:17:47,400 --> 01:17:50,820
Like you, I believe that godly
masculine virtue is the only

1182
01:17:50,820 --> 01:17:53,790
thing that can deliver us from
this moment of chaos. You've

1183
01:17:53,790 --> 01:17:57,120
helped me realize that black
American men aid or specifically

1184
01:17:57,270 --> 01:18:00,450
are key to restoring some
semblance of spiritual order.

1185
01:18:00,720 --> 01:18:04,440
It's time for good family men of
all colors and creeds to stand

1186
01:18:04,440 --> 01:18:08,160
up alongside their godly women
and say enough, keep up the

1187
01:18:08,160 --> 01:18:11,490
phenomenal work, sir and
Godspeed. PS a friend of mine

1188
01:18:11,490 --> 01:18:14,430
and I have started our own
podcast justified pursuit. We're

1189
01:18:14,430 --> 01:18:17,160
just getting going and like you
we have a lot to say. So it's a

1190
01:18:17,160 --> 01:18:19,830
work in progress. I hope you
don't mind me leaning on and

1191
01:18:19,830 --> 01:18:21,960
building off your teaching.
Well, I don't think we have any

1192
01:18:21,960 --> 01:18:24,960
problem with that. Our third
episode on quote, toxic

1193
01:18:24,960 --> 01:18:29,310
masculinity drops tomorrow. And
that so that may be already out

1194
01:18:29,310 --> 01:18:32,640
I guess, PPS that you've
convinced me on reparations for

1195
01:18:32,640 --> 01:18:35,070
Athos, generally speaking, not
preferring not referring to the

1196
01:18:35,070 --> 01:18:38,670
group. I have a campaign slash
proposition I'd like to share I

1197
01:18:38,670 --> 01:18:41,130
would like to continue to pay
Social Security for the rest of

1198
01:18:41,130 --> 01:18:44,640
my life, but forego my
retirement checks in order to

1199
01:18:44,640 --> 01:18:48,360
fund reparations to aid us in
addition, I propose giving eight

1200
01:18:48,360 --> 01:18:51,360
US people the choice between a
check or a lifetime exemption

1201
01:18:51,360 --> 01:18:54,600
from federal income tax. The
only thing I've thought of so

1202
01:18:54,600 --> 01:18:58,020
far that I would need to secure
such proposal would be a cap on

1203
01:18:58,020 --> 01:19:01,110
my Social Security tax rate for
life. I think this is a

1204
01:19:01,110 --> 01:19:03,990
proposition that a lot of post
Boomer Americans could get

1205
01:19:03,990 --> 01:19:07,200
behind. It might even reduce the
country's social security

1206
01:19:07,200 --> 01:19:10,740
liabilities and stave off the
pending collapse of that system.

1207
01:19:10,740 --> 01:19:12,870
We'd love to hear your thoughts
on that. God bless brother,

1208
01:19:13,050 --> 01:19:19,260
Chisholm cook. Well, there's a
lot there. It certainly rivals

1209
01:19:19,260 --> 01:19:23,490
some of the reparations for
Holocaust survivors to a degree.

1210
01:19:25,200 --> 01:19:29,700
But I kind of liked the idea of
it being the corporation, known

1211
01:19:29,700 --> 01:19:33,360
as the United States. You know,
it's not like we created the

1212
01:19:33,360 --> 01:19:39,900
stimulus money $8 trillion. And
you had to pay for it upfront to

1213
01:19:39,900 --> 01:19:45,360
extend it to somebody else. It
was created out of magic. I'm

1214
01:19:45,360 --> 01:19:47,190
just calling and that's because
it's easier. So

1215
01:19:47,190 --> 01:19:52,080
that's the most unsettling way.
It's like, Oh, no. All this

1216
01:19:52,080 --> 01:19:55,620
money flying around over Corona
and you threw some number out

1217
01:19:55,620 --> 01:19:59,220
there per case they were
throwing around like in the

1218
01:19:59,220 --> 01:20:00,900
hundreds of 1000s Whoa,

1219
01:20:00,900 --> 01:20:05,580
yeah, in some cases $200,000 per
case in certain states for

1220
01:20:05,580 --> 01:20:10,890
Medicare Yeah. Easy peasy. Yeah.
Now that does get paid in as a

1221
01:20:10,890 --> 01:20:14,880
tax. And of course, you have to
pay the ferry man somewhere

1222
01:20:14,880 --> 01:20:18,570
download down the road. But I do
like the idea of reversing it

1223
01:20:18,570 --> 01:20:23,040
being a no tax. I mean, wow,
what a great way to do it. So no

1224
01:20:23,040 --> 01:20:25,320
income tax until x or

1225
01:20:25,320 --> 01:20:31,920
whatever that is that is. All
these things can be discussed.

1226
01:20:31,920 --> 01:20:35,400
And that's what politician had
discussed with us. But it has to

1227
01:20:35,400 --> 01:20:41,400
be something that you can see
touch feel a tangible. Yes.

1228
01:20:41,880 --> 01:20:45,840
Onward with Timothy Vita, Fein
are Whitfield. Gentlemen, thank

1229
01:20:45,840 --> 01:20:48,570
you for this education. I really
appreciate the opportunity. Oh,

1230
01:20:48,570 --> 01:20:52,530
wait, I think I missed the D
deadbeat for Chisholm. Make sure

1231
01:20:52,530 --> 01:20:52,800
I do.

1232
01:20:54,690 --> 01:20:58,350
Congratulation, you're no longer

1233
01:20:58,530 --> 01:21:01,920
dead there's so much to read.
I'm just doing it just in case.

1234
01:21:02,970 --> 01:21:05,700
So Timothy would mean says I'm
celebrating the 50th episode

1235
01:21:05,700 --> 01:21:10,020
with my with $50 and my 50th
birthday we say $2 and together

1236
01:21:10,020 --> 01:21:15,900
that is 100 Can I get a birthday
biscuit and emote? And a

1237
01:21:15,900 --> 01:21:20,580
birthday butter biscuit? Yeah.
And a mo jobs karma? Yeah, I

1238
01:21:20,580 --> 01:21:22,230
think we can do that. They
always give

1239
01:21:22,230 --> 01:21:23,910
me a biscuit on my birthday.

1240
01:21:24,270 --> 01:21:27,780
And speaking of birthdays, I had
to start right here out there.

1241
01:21:28,230 --> 01:21:33,540
Send a happy belated birthday
out to my big bro chili Thank

1242
01:21:33,540 --> 01:21:34,350
you bro for everything.

1243
01:21:34,680 --> 01:21:39,480
Oh, very nice. Here's the MO
karma jobs karma for you

1244
01:21:39,510 --> 01:21:48,540
jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's
vote for jobs. You've got

1245
01:21:49,620 --> 01:21:54,750
mocha next executive producer
William solo with $100 Greetings

1246
01:21:54,750 --> 01:21:59,340
Mo and Adam first wave rownum Oh
convert here Rogan no agenda mo

1247
01:21:59,340 --> 01:22:02,910
facts. I recently exposed myself
as a deadbeat on a no agenda

1248
01:22:02,910 --> 01:22:07,080
show but I planned on donating
for yalls 50th all along. I'll

1249
01:22:07,080 --> 01:22:09,930
take a D dead beating though.
It's the only one I'm ever going

1250
01:22:09,930 --> 01:22:10,410
to need.

1251
01:22:12,030 --> 01:22:16,950
Congratulations. You're no
longer dead. The

1252
01:22:16,980 --> 01:22:20,010
congrats on 50 shows gentlemen I
look forward to many more. I'm

1253
01:22:20,010 --> 01:22:22,530
especially interested in your
take on private prisons in the

1254
01:22:22,530 --> 01:22:26,820
possible connection to blow
giants crime bill Oh, hello. Can

1255
01:22:26,820 --> 01:22:30,030
I get some mo karma for good
health and continued success at

1256
01:22:30,030 --> 01:22:34,290
the new job. Take that take that
take that much love and respect

1257
01:22:34,290 --> 01:22:37,800
Bill solo from the rat infested
infested shithole. They call

1258
01:22:37,800 --> 01:22:42,540
Charm City Baltimore. And we
really appreciate that William

1259
01:22:42,540 --> 01:22:45,000
absolutely will give you a
little more karma there. Thank

1260
01:22:45,000 --> 01:22:52,170
you so much for supporting the
work. Emile Bottomly comes in

1261
01:22:52,170 --> 01:22:58,230
with the classic boob donation
808 Dear Mo and Adam as a

1262
01:22:58,260 --> 01:23:01,920
regular and this is our first
Associate Executive Producer I

1263
01:23:01,920 --> 01:23:05,760
believe under 100 as regular no
agenda Listen, I'd like to take

1264
01:23:05,760 --> 01:23:08,670
this opportunity to thank Joe
Biden and his you ain't black

1265
01:23:08,670 --> 01:23:12,120
moment for getting me into this
podcast. Without his racism I

1266
01:23:12,120 --> 01:23:15,630
doubt I would have been curious
enough to check the show out on

1267
01:23:15,630 --> 01:23:19,140
my personal wish list for future
episodes. Is that thoroughly

1268
01:23:19,140 --> 01:23:22,590
charming and all around Nice Guy
Louis Farrakhan have entered his

1269
01:23:22,590 --> 01:23:25,440
Nation of Islam. I'm sure
there's a good story in there

1270
01:23:25,440 --> 01:23:28,560
somewhere just bursting to get
out. Keep up the good work and

1271
01:23:28,560 --> 01:23:30,810
please D dead beat me forward
with

1272
01:23:32,580 --> 01:23:37,590
congratulations you're no longer
dead the

1273
01:23:37,650 --> 01:23:40,320
dead believe we can put that
into the planning Can't we know?

1274
01:23:41,670 --> 01:23:42,600
Something like that?

1275
01:23:42,900 --> 01:23:43,770
may have something to come.

1276
01:23:46,950 --> 01:23:53,310
Our next Associate Executive
Producer, Frankie team. Yeah,

1277
01:23:53,310 --> 01:23:56,790
Frankie T. I think it is. Let me
see it's down here somewhere.

1278
01:23:57,660 --> 01:24:02,730
Okay. Happy half century Mo and
I'm really happy every time the

1279
01:24:02,760 --> 01:24:06,480
next episode queues thank you
for your courage both not much

1280
01:24:06,480 --> 01:24:10,200
mouth left Adam when you guys
hit me from all sides, all the

1281
01:24:10,200 --> 01:24:15,480
best karma from Frankie T and
that's that's actually a sent us

1282
01:24:15,750 --> 01:24:20,670
50 pounds British pounds. And so
that's how it came out to 6226.

1283
01:24:20,670 --> 01:24:26,610
But we will still give you an
episode. Club member. credit for

1284
01:24:26,610 --> 01:24:27,840
that. Mark that

1285
01:24:27,840 --> 01:24:30,240
as well put that in there just
to make sure you get that.

1286
01:24:30,450 --> 01:24:35,100
Excellent. Then we have 5353
from Connor Lawrence. Well,

1287
01:24:35,100 --> 01:24:37,680
well, well, the big five. Oh,
what else can I say then this

1288
01:24:37,680 --> 01:24:40,260
has been a wild ride for you
too. And I can't wait to see

1289
01:24:40,500 --> 01:24:42,810
where the coming years will
bring us. Above all this show

1290
01:24:42,810 --> 01:24:45,300
has given me so much hope for
the future of America and race

1291
01:24:45,300 --> 01:24:49,200
relations. If crackpot and Mo
can do this, so Can everybody

1292
01:24:49,200 --> 01:24:52,770
else? Yeah. God bless to you
both of you from the bottom of

1293
01:24:52,770 --> 01:24:55,380
my heart. Thank you because
unlike the Moller report, I

1294
01:24:55,380 --> 01:24:58,590
believe the Durham report will
list mo facts with Adam curry as

1295
01:24:58,590 --> 01:25:02,280
the best podcasting Get diverse.
Can I get a little more karma

1296
01:25:02,280 --> 01:25:06,090
for all of us out there for the
show? May May you to have 500

1297
01:25:06,090 --> 01:25:09,840
More episodes and can I get some
of that sweet sweet WUSA with a

1298
01:25:09,840 --> 01:25:14,100
stereo goats? Holy crap. People
are making me work for the show

1299
01:25:14,100 --> 01:25:20,070
aren't they? With a stereo goat?
Okay, I think we can put where's

1300
01:25:20,070 --> 01:25:23,970
our where's my stereo goats and
people who are new are probably

1301
01:25:23,970 --> 01:25:26,640
wondering what the hell we're
talking about before the road I

1302
01:25:26,640 --> 01:25:29,790
knew things were bad now I know
they're awful. But now I have

1303
01:25:29,790 --> 01:25:33,900
hope and it's thanks to you no
agenda in this crazy crazy world

1304
01:25:33,900 --> 01:25:39,570
I've dove into talking about for
now talk for now be good and be

1305
01:25:39,570 --> 01:25:43,560
with God with love and reverence
your friend Connor and let me

1306
01:25:43,560 --> 01:25:46,560
get all these in the right
order. So we want some of that

1307
01:25:46,560 --> 01:25:52,470
sweet sweet, sweet WUSA with a
stereo goat mo karma Here we go.

1308
01:25:54,480 --> 01:25:55,260
You've got

1309
01:26:01,710 --> 01:26:06,960
karma I don't work on some of
these and we cross shows. Eric

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01:26:06,960 --> 01:26:10,770
cocoa and he is from
Deutschland, a loyal loyal

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supporter of many value for
value properties. $52 and no

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note but we know all about him
james mclean $51 Hey, I forgot

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01:26:20,130 --> 01:26:22,890
to add my note to my donation
just like to thank you both for

1314
01:26:22,890 --> 01:26:26,040
the great show. And we do
appreciate it. That Josiah

1315
01:26:26,040 --> 01:26:27,630
Hendrickson $50 We

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01:26:27,630 --> 01:26:31,020
might have to put him in the
show. Numbers well because he

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01:26:31,020 --> 01:26:36,120
did 50 Another dollar so we will
make sure we get everybody right

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we don't want to make sure
special

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episode club number you bet
right Josiah Hendrickson DMO and

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01:26:41,070 --> 01:26:44,670
Adam if I start donating here
then move to no agenda then Joe

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01:26:44,670 --> 01:26:51,840
Rogan to become a mono mono row.
Of course you do with my first

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01:26:51,840 --> 01:26:54,270
baby on the way it's time to
stop being a deadbeat here's a

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01:26:54,270 --> 01:26:58,230
piece of the pie I inherited
best I can do right now. He's $1

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01:26:58,230 --> 01:27:01,500
per for me per episode plus one
cent for my little girl for her

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01:27:01,500 --> 01:27:05,880
ally status. You too are going
to be a valuable part of her

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01:27:05,880 --> 01:27:09,300
education so she doesn't get
brainwashed by the narrative.

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01:27:09,300 --> 01:27:12,900
Could I get a mo karma for a
health and success? Keep coming

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01:27:12,900 --> 01:27:16,350
to the table and spreading the
gospel? Yes, absolutely. Thank

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01:27:16,350 --> 01:27:19,230
you and you're no longer a
deadbeat so we get to do this.

1330
01:27:20,160 --> 01:27:24,690
Congratulations. You're no
longer a debt

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you've got mo calm

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01:27:31,080 --> 01:27:36,330
and we got 5050 from a cult fans
are Nathan Lee here was walking

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01:27:36,330 --> 01:27:39,150
through the forest with my
better half future Dame JJ the

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01:27:39,150 --> 01:27:42,930
lady Smith listening to mo facts
49 On my birthday went to both

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01:27:42,930 --> 01:27:45,930
of our laughing out loud I
received my butter biscuit from

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01:27:45,930 --> 01:27:50,400
my birthday. Yes, you guys keep
doing the great work my show on

1337
01:27:50,400 --> 01:27:53,550
six of swords might help clear
up any misconceptions about what

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01:27:53,610 --> 01:27:57,570
chaos magic is and then even
more some Yes indeed. It will be

1339
01:27:57,570 --> 01:28:00,360
useful and valuable to you. I
agree with that. Thank you both

1340
01:28:00,390 --> 01:28:04,050
can I get a goose off for my six
of cups show thank you GBG

1341
01:28:04,050 --> 01:28:07,350
hashtag we know what it means
give Black guns give blacks

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01:28:07,350 --> 01:28:11,190
guns. And that's from Sir Nathan
Lee and we appreciate that and

1343
01:28:11,190 --> 01:28:22,350
of course we gotta WUSA for you
and another 5050 from Dennis

1344
01:28:22,350 --> 01:28:25,830
Wyrick congratulation that 50
episodes so a lot of catching up

1345
01:28:25,830 --> 01:28:28,170
to do but have listened to at
least half of the episodes

1346
01:28:28,350 --> 01:28:32,010
fantastic conversations and mind
blowing revelations I pass the

1347
01:28:32,010 --> 01:28:35,280
blunt every chance I get and
please take me off that dead

1348
01:28:35,280 --> 01:28:37,260
beat list. Let's do it right
away.

1349
01:28:38,820 --> 01:28:44,070
Congratulations. You're no
longer a deadbeat.

1350
01:28:44,160 --> 01:28:47,670
That's all for now but more to
come thank you and Mo karma

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slash Bitcoin if you don't mind
what does he mean with a

1352
01:28:50,460 --> 01:28:56,250
Bitcoin? Hmm, maybe? Well, maybe
we can just do a Manning

1353
01:28:56,250 --> 01:29:00,030
Bitcoin. I'm thinking that do a
little ISO here. I think we can

1354
01:29:00,030 --> 01:29:03,510
manage that so and we'll give
you the MO karma

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01:29:06,300 --> 01:29:07,080
you've got

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yes and and all hell is gonna
break loose and you're gonna

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need a Bitcoin

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and 5050 from J. Miss J. Who
says and that? Was there an

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01:29:20,490 --> 01:29:22,020
email notes? I don't see.

1360
01:29:22,050 --> 01:29:26,310
I cannot I cannot find it under
the email associated with the

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01:29:26,490 --> 01:29:28,170
donation. So okay,

1362
01:29:28,170 --> 01:29:28,650
we'll send it.

1363
01:29:29,970 --> 01:29:34,380
Yeah. I think she'd be a Cash
App looking at the screen. I

1364
01:29:34,380 --> 01:29:38,070
mean, that donation list. And I
just didn't put the email

1365
01:29:38,070 --> 01:29:39,090
address with the Cash App.

1366
01:29:39,180 --> 01:29:41,760
Okay, well, then she won't get
you on the next show. Sorry

1367
01:29:41,760 --> 01:29:44,250
about this right. You send it to
us through email. We'll we'll

1368
01:29:44,250 --> 01:29:47,160
take care of you John Taylor.
5050 just wants a WUSA

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01:29:52,230 --> 01:29:57,180
Alexander bt $50.01 Hey, Mo
annatto made some fun ISOs for

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01:29:57,180 --> 01:30:00,570
the show hearing mo use the
phrase Butterbeer gets I was

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01:30:00,570 --> 01:30:04,110
reminded of a moment from the
show The Boondocks that aired on

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01:30:04,110 --> 01:30:08,940
Adult Swim in 2007. On season
one episode three granddad is

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01:30:08,940 --> 01:30:11,520
about to leave for a date with a
woman who has at least a third

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01:30:11,520 --> 01:30:14,940
his age and he doesn't know
she's a prostitute. His grandson

1375
01:30:14,940 --> 01:30:17,790
Riley doesn't want him to take
her to the Red Lobster and says

1376
01:30:17,790 --> 01:30:21,540
this I have learned so much and
I believe you got to play the

1377
01:30:21,540 --> 01:30:26,700
clip okay the long one or the
the long one I guess let's play

1378
01:30:26,700 --> 01:30:49,860
the long one call me back us the
short version of it Oh, that

1379
01:30:49,860 --> 01:30:53,070
could become a staple. I like
it. Very nice. Very nice.

1380
01:30:54,390 --> 01:30:57,240
Alexander goes on to say I have
learned so much and believe most

1381
01:30:57,240 --> 01:31:00,090
messages very powerful, unique
and needs to be heard. Thanks

1382
01:31:00,090 --> 01:31:03,810
for making such a great show.
Sir. Economic Hitman Baron of

1383
01:31:03,810 --> 01:31:07,170
congressional correct the
congressional dish. Another fine

1384
01:31:07,170 --> 01:31:10,440
podcast also on the value for
value model. Alex B. Thank you.

1385
01:31:10,800 --> 01:31:14,910
Douglas, Mook. $50. No note,
Donna Blanchard, 50, haimo and

1386
01:31:14,910 --> 01:31:17,550
Adam, I send some money along to
you because you are worth it.

1387
01:31:17,790 --> 01:31:20,910
I'm a 60 year old white woman in
Canada and I searched for and

1388
01:31:20,910 --> 01:31:23,880
found your podcast because I
wanted some answers to all the

1389
01:31:23,880 --> 01:31:26,430
crap that's going on with our
southern neighbors, particularly

1390
01:31:26,430 --> 01:31:29,910
the racial issues, as that's not
such a huge thing up here. Don't

1391
01:31:29,910 --> 01:31:33,060
worry. Just wait. I am learning
so much. And I thank you for

1392
01:31:33,060 --> 01:31:35,970
your work. Keep up that great
work. This is great. So she just

1393
01:31:35,970 --> 01:31:39,900
found us. Not any other podcast
apparently. I

1394
01:31:39,900 --> 01:31:42,540
was wondering how she found that
that's pretty cool. Because

1395
01:31:42,990 --> 01:31:47,100
Thailand is kind of, you know,
all over the place. So I was

1396
01:31:47,100 --> 01:31:49,290
interested in how she was she
search?

1397
01:31:49,380 --> 01:31:51,840
I wouldn't. I wouldn't mind
knowing myself. That's very

1398
01:31:51,840 --> 01:31:52,170
cool. It's

1399
01:31:52,170 --> 01:31:55,050
like how I found no agenda is
it's just a quick aside. I

1400
01:31:55,050 --> 01:31:57,750
actually searched for news with
no agenda, and that's how I got

1401
01:32:00,150 --> 01:32:04,080
quite unbelievable. It works. It
works. All right. Thank you,

1402
01:32:04,080 --> 01:32:08,490
Keith and Teresa. No, Donna, now
we're on to Keith and Teresa.

1403
01:32:08,490 --> 01:32:12,030
They're $50 love the show. I'm
telling everyone I know that

1404
01:32:12,030 --> 01:32:14,730
they have to listen Keep up the
great work. Thank you. That is a

1405
01:32:14,730 --> 01:32:18,750
good use of time and talent and
treasure. Paul Arsenault DMO and

1406
01:32:18,750 --> 01:32:21,720
Adam I worked at the Detroit
Windsor border during the New

1407
01:32:21,720 --> 01:32:25,140
Jack City era. Thank you for
explaining all of it for me and

1408
01:32:25,140 --> 01:32:27,840
look forward to more enlightened
shows. What episode did we do

1409
01:32:27,840 --> 01:32:29,490
that New Jack City on Do you
remember that?

1410
01:32:29,519 --> 01:32:32,489
That was the Black don't crack I
believe Okay,

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01:32:32,549 --> 01:32:36,059
good. Which which was I don't
know which episode it was. That

1412
01:32:36,059 --> 01:32:47,819
it look into that archive.no mo
facts.com Simon lubes of Lee

1413
01:32:47,819 --> 01:32:51,749
Buzu ski Lebowski Simon Lee
bazoo ski, I believe Hey

1414
01:32:51,749 --> 01:32:55,019
listeners be donating. Yes. $50
Thank you for thank you for the

1415
01:32:55,019 --> 01:32:56,969
example. Ella lightly

1416
01:32:57,000 --> 01:33:00,390
correction correction. Hey
producers, producers.

1417
01:33:00,390 --> 01:33:05,400
Yes, exactly. Producers. Ella
labeling or labeling needs a

1418
01:33:05,400 --> 01:33:08,100
biscuit for her birthday on the
28th The show has helped my

1419
01:33:08,100 --> 01:33:11,280
partner and I do the work can we
get a D dead beating and a

1420
01:33:11,280 --> 01:33:13,620
whoosah Please? Yeah, we gotta
get your biscuit to

1421
01:33:13,620 --> 01:33:15,930
always give me a biscuit on my
birthday.

1422
01:33:17,880 --> 01:33:22,770
Congratulations. You're no
longer a deadbeat.

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01:33:27,090 --> 01:33:31,740
Dame Jennifer also known as Jean
Denis, Jennifer, Jennifer

1424
01:33:31,740 --> 01:33:35,640
Buchanan $50 Congratulations on
your upcoming episode 50 I'm so

1425
01:33:35,640 --> 01:33:39,060
grateful for the previous 49 She
writes I think producers who've

1426
01:33:39,060 --> 01:33:42,630
done the work and heard all of
them so far have earned a BA in

1427
01:33:42,630 --> 01:33:46,200
American social studies if they
also took their prereqs of

1428
01:33:46,200 --> 01:33:50,640
course math XOXO Dame Jennifer
Thank you Dame Jennifer really

1429
01:33:50,640 --> 01:33:54,510
appreciate all that you do for
all the value for values things

1430
01:33:54,510 --> 01:33:58,260
that I'm involved in and of
course I mean that's hurt dead

1431
01:33:58,260 --> 01:34:00,030
beating and right there that's
death go

1432
01:34:00,030 --> 01:34:03,180
check out her no agenda
animation. Oh, yeah. Animated

1433
01:34:03,180 --> 01:34:06,360
No. On YouTube animated no
agenda. That is hilarious.

1434
01:34:06,900 --> 01:34:10,740
She's so talented. Couple more
executive producer the $50

1435
01:34:10,740 --> 01:34:14,010
level. Sarah Halstead. Hey, mon.
Adam, thank you for doing the

1436
01:34:14,010 --> 01:34:16,200
work and helping us think about
stuff we never thought of

1437
01:34:16,200 --> 01:34:19,590
before. My husband Kenny got me
listening to the no agenda show

1438
01:34:19,590 --> 01:34:21,960
and I got him listening to moe
facts with Adam curry. We love

1439
01:34:21,960 --> 01:34:24,870
them both. Keep up the great
work and work congratulations,

1440
01:34:24,870 --> 01:34:28,860
episode number 50. jingles, WUSA
mo karma. And I want this

1441
01:34:28,860 --> 01:34:32,010
donation to go to Kenny Halstead
to start his journey to ally

1442
01:34:32,010 --> 01:34:35,820
hood or whatever y'all are gonna
call it Sara. Thank you so much.

1443
01:34:35,820 --> 01:34:39,330
That is That is very kind of
you. So yes, of course we can

1444
01:34:39,330 --> 01:34:52,800
give you a mo karma and Musa.
Happy Wait, wait, wait, wait.

1445
01:34:53,880 --> 01:34:55,260
Yeah, let's get rolling hawk.

1446
01:34:56,010 --> 01:34:59,310
Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't mean to
miss you there. Raleigh Hawk $50

1447
01:34:59,310 --> 01:35:02,310
for show 50 Keep it up bear in
it and Sir black and black

1448
01:35:02,310 --> 01:35:05,220
knight Sir lineman of the net
Raleigh hawk. Yes, thank you

1449
01:35:05,220 --> 01:35:10,650
very much. Chris mommy, who says
Happy 50th Chris and Janelle

1450
01:35:10,650 --> 01:35:13,620
from Cherry Valley,
Massachusetts. $50. Thank you

1451
01:35:13,800 --> 01:35:17,610
$50 for doing the work says
Michael Olson. And John

1452
01:35:17,610 --> 01:35:22,020
Cornforth sends us $50 And Adam,
the work that you and Mo are

1453
01:35:22,020 --> 01:35:25,440
doing is critically important. I
hope that you continue to expand

1454
01:35:25,440 --> 01:35:28,020
your audience in these difficult
times we find ourselves living

1455
01:35:28,020 --> 01:35:31,170
in it is reassuring to know that
there are others out there that

1456
01:35:31,170 --> 01:35:34,200
can see through the lies and
false reality and that they've

1457
01:35:34,230 --> 01:35:39,210
created for us I refuse to be
manipulated any longer. PS we

1458
01:35:39,210 --> 01:35:43,470
are both. We both had more hair
30 years ago than we do today.

1459
01:35:43,620 --> 01:35:46,440
But let's not hold that against
each other. Thank you very much,

1460
01:35:46,440 --> 01:35:51,570
John. Rebecca Webb $50,
Associate Executive Producer, we

1461
01:35:51,570 --> 01:35:54,210
should could add another zero to
these production funds. Again,

1462
01:35:54,240 --> 01:35:57,330
it's the value that's what you
determine. It's equally as

1463
01:35:57,330 --> 01:36:00,360
valuable to us and we appreciate
it. been listening since the

1464
01:36:00,360 --> 01:36:04,380
beginning but last episode was a
knockout K Oh, love your mama's

1465
01:36:04,380 --> 01:36:07,740
advice. Most everyone commented
on that, especially that you did

1466
01:36:07,740 --> 01:36:11,850
her voice was just uncanny. It's
like I met her already listened

1467
01:36:11,850 --> 01:36:14,490
to it twice and about to hit the
play button again, this time

1468
01:36:14,490 --> 01:36:17,460
with my wife listening as well.
We're learning more about this

1469
01:36:17,460 --> 01:36:21,720
nation's history and culture
than we ever did in school. It's

1470
01:36:21,720 --> 01:36:24,330
like finding out you're adopted
and learning about the rest of

1471
01:36:24,330 --> 01:36:28,530
your family history and culture.
Yes, it's it's it messes with

1472
01:36:28,530 --> 01:36:31,230
your mind and you get you get
used to it though it becomes a

1473
01:36:31,230 --> 01:36:35,130
fun ride. Not just a narrative
you are always told God bless

1474
01:36:35,130 --> 01:36:38,520
y'all Daniel Webb says PS made a
couple of donations before but

1475
01:36:38,520 --> 01:36:42,630
they've come in under Rebecca
Webb Okay, so Daniel thank you

1476
01:36:42,630 --> 01:36:45,450
and thank you Rebecca for
letting us for letting Daniel

1477
01:36:45,450 --> 01:36:50,610
use your your account. And then
we have Daniel hunt. $50 says

1478
01:36:50,610 --> 01:36:53,310
hey mo been learning a lot from
you and Adam very grateful for

1479
01:36:53,310 --> 01:36:56,700
the work you two are doing keep
them shits up. Thank you sir.

1480
01:36:57,090 --> 01:37:02,250
Cody Gray $50 love the show and
keep up the great work recent

1481
01:37:02,250 --> 01:37:04,560
rownum Oh convert that is
listening to the MO facts

1482
01:37:04,560 --> 01:37:07,320
library and I feel obliged to
pay for the hard work and

1483
01:37:07,320 --> 01:37:09,750
intelligence put into these
shows. We thank you for that.

1484
01:37:09,930 --> 01:37:14,340
Cody and our final Associate
Executive Producer and episode

1485
01:37:14,340 --> 01:37:18,870
club member David weed with $50
for the club 50 Of course, as I

1486
01:37:18,870 --> 01:37:22,890
turned 50 on the fifth of
October. Very nice. Thank you

1487
01:37:22,890 --> 01:37:25,440
for your courage. He says
please, D dead beat me.

1488
01:37:27,510 --> 01:37:32,610
Congratulations. You're no
longer a deadbeat.

1489
01:37:32,610 --> 01:37:35,430
And I'd like mo karma for my
birthday. And thank you for the

1490
01:37:35,430 --> 01:37:37,920
countless hours spent on
research and the valuable

1491
01:37:37,920 --> 01:37:41,760
conversations we need to be
having. And of course with that,

1492
01:37:41,760 --> 01:37:43,530
for your birthday comes a butter
biscuit

1493
01:37:43,530 --> 01:37:45,720
always give me a biscuit on my
birthday

1494
01:37:47,910 --> 01:37:48,690
you've got

1495
01:37:50,790 --> 01:37:54,000
and that includes our executive
producers, Associate Executive

1496
01:37:54,000 --> 01:37:57,900
producers and the show club
members for episode 50 of Mo

1497
01:37:57,900 --> 01:38:01,260
facts with Adam curry, we will
be thanking a few more people in

1498
01:38:01,260 --> 01:38:04,980
a second segment. Closer to the
end of the show, we have a lot

1499
01:38:04,980 --> 01:38:08,100
more to go. But again, thank you
for producing this, it's under

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01:38:08,100 --> 01:38:11,880
the value for value system, you
can send us your time, your

1501
01:38:11,880 --> 01:38:16,140
talent or your treasure, and we
love putting the executive

1502
01:38:16,140 --> 01:38:17,880
producers and Associate
Executive producers in the

1503
01:38:17,880 --> 01:38:21,720
spotlight. For more go to mo
facts.com or directly to the

1504
01:38:21,720 --> 01:38:27,810
donation page. Mo fund me.com
moe f u n d m e.com. And thank

1505
01:38:27,810 --> 01:38:31,170
you all for your courage and for
producing episode number 50 of

1506
01:38:31,170 --> 01:38:32,760
Mo facts with Adam curry.

1507
01:38:34,170 --> 01:38:38,550
Alright, so we're post Civil War
now, but cotton is still king.

1508
01:38:38,940 --> 01:38:42,750
After the Civil War. Many
southerners looked once again to

1509
01:38:42,750 --> 01:38:47,310
cotton to revive their failing
economy. The system of slavery

1510
01:38:47,310 --> 01:38:51,120
was no longer in place. So
another system of labor was

1511
01:38:51,120 --> 01:38:51,420
needed.

1512
01:38:51,750 --> 01:38:56,550
cotton prices did not go up
after the war. And so

1513
01:38:56,550 --> 01:39:02,610
sharecropping ends up being the
reality for a lot of ex slaves

1514
01:39:02,610 --> 01:39:06,960
and increasing numbers of poor
whites as well. And people who

1515
01:39:06,960 --> 01:39:10,890
used to consider themselves sort
of Yeoman becoming kind of

1516
01:39:10,890 --> 01:39:14,850
falling into that poor white
category of sharecropping. So

1517
01:39:14,850 --> 01:39:19,500
sharecropping becomes a system
where, instead of rent, people

1518
01:39:19,500 --> 01:39:24,780
literally pay in a share of the
crop. The land owner usually

1519
01:39:24,780 --> 01:39:31,920
furnished, the tools, the
animals, the sometimes the seed,

1520
01:39:33,000 --> 01:39:37,890
sharecroppers had a cabin that
they could live in. And the

1521
01:39:38,010 --> 01:39:41,940
return on that for the landowner
was getting a share of the crop.

1522
01:39:42,450 --> 01:39:48,060
Now for the sharecropper, quite
often they had to buy goods that

1523
01:39:48,060 --> 01:39:51,600
they needed at either the
landowner store or another

1524
01:39:51,600 --> 01:39:55,530
merchant store, so they had to
put the crop up as collateral,

1525
01:39:55,860 --> 01:40:01,320
or take a lien on the crop. And
so at the end, ended the season,

1526
01:40:02,220 --> 01:40:06,450
the sharecropper often had
really nothing left, and so went

1527
01:40:06,450 --> 01:40:09,930
into debt again for the next
year.

1528
01:40:11,610 --> 01:40:14,520
Something else have never really
been taught properly in school,

1529
01:40:15,030 --> 01:40:18,660
sharecropping, and how that
works is good. Oh, sure

1530
01:40:18,690 --> 01:40:21,630
sharecropping was just slavery
under under another name. And

1531
01:40:21,630 --> 01:40:25,620
when it was, opened it up for
more people to be slaves. It's

1532
01:40:25,620 --> 01:40:30,630
like, oh, yeah, we can increase
the word. labor force. By you

1533
01:40:30,630 --> 01:40:34,350
know, it. Now it's not based off
of color anymore. It's based off

1534
01:40:34,350 --> 01:40:37,530
of a system of No, just
oppressing people based off

1535
01:40:37,530 --> 01:40:41,640
being poor. And, you know, when
I heard this clip, what came to

1536
01:40:41,640 --> 01:40:44,700
mind is now what we're dealing
with, in modern times, where

1537
01:40:44,700 --> 01:40:47,610
nobody wants to own anything.
Yeah.

1538
01:40:48,900 --> 01:40:51,840
Well, nobody can. But also
people can't own anything, it's

1539
01:40:51,840 --> 01:40:56,010
become incredibly expensive to
own anything. So that's why we

1540
01:40:56,010 --> 01:40:58,890
have released cars. And

1541
01:41:00,000 --> 01:41:05,670
we're sharecropping. We, yeah.
Yeah, cuz that's what debt is,

1542
01:41:05,670 --> 01:41:07,620
is just basically you're
borrowing off what you're gonna

1543
01:41:07,620 --> 01:41:11,880
make in the future. And then it
comes out, you get, you end up

1544
01:41:11,880 --> 01:41:14,940
dead even or into either Oh,
and, and then you know, is based

1545
01:41:14,940 --> 01:41:18,300
off what you're going to make
in, in the next year, right. So

1546
01:41:18,300 --> 01:41:22,800
I do want to point that out to
people that a lot of parallel

1547
01:41:22,800 --> 01:41:26,280
between now what's going on now
and what was going on then, but

1548
01:41:26,280 --> 01:41:30,570
I just want to let people also
know that the claim I'm willing

1549
01:41:30,570 --> 01:41:35,340
to make stops at the end of the
Civil War, and a master patient

1550
01:41:35,700 --> 01:41:40,290
of so called black people. But
if you want to go further, you

1551
01:41:40,290 --> 01:41:44,370
can say it persisted all the way
up to Jim Crow. But I think

1552
01:41:44,370 --> 01:41:47,940
there's a harder case to make.
And I would just like to stick

1553
01:41:47,940 --> 01:41:51,000
to what is not what you know, is
what you can prove kind of

1554
01:41:51,000 --> 01:41:54,450
thing. But we have a lot of
evidence with sharecropping. And

1555
01:41:54,870 --> 01:41:58,290
I come from a line of
sharecroppers. I actually have

1556
01:41:58,290 --> 01:42:01,140
my great, great grandfather's
sharecropping book, he had

1557
01:42:01,140 --> 01:42:04,530
immaculate handwriting, by the
way, and the handwriting is

1558
01:42:04,530 --> 01:42:07,110
beautiful. And He showed that he
could read which you know, was

1559
01:42:07,110 --> 01:42:10,620
also at for that time, very
impressive. And not only to be

1560
01:42:10,650 --> 01:42:14,490
be able to read, but also had
great penmanship, just as you

1561
01:42:14,490 --> 01:42:17,460
know, just nice, I like it,
tidbit of information. For me,

1562
01:42:17,490 --> 01:42:20,100
it is why we take things so
personally. So when people say,

1563
01:42:21,180 --> 01:42:24,780
you know, you want to have a
lineage to slavery, no, these

1564
01:42:24,780 --> 01:42:28,350
are human beings. Yeah, they've
just went through a system. But

1565
01:42:28,350 --> 01:42:33,240
it's funny, nobody says that to
and I don't want to bring this

1566
01:42:33,240 --> 01:42:37,140
topic up too much. But to Jewish
people, they identify

1567
01:42:37,140 --> 01:42:39,930
themselves, we can easily or
you're not, you're white, you're

1568
01:42:39,930 --> 01:42:42,810
white. I mean, you just be white
and good enough, be white, no,

1569
01:42:42,810 --> 01:42:47,010
but they have a particular claim
to history. And what they went

1570
01:42:47,010 --> 01:42:51,510
through that identifies them
separate, you know, from the

1571
01:42:51,510 --> 01:42:55,440
quote unquote, white people.
Yeah, so why can't a das be the

1572
01:42:55,440 --> 01:43:00,030
same way, of course, of course,
we're part of the greater larger

1573
01:43:00,030 --> 01:43:02,940
group of black people, but we
have a particular claim and a

1574
01:43:02,940 --> 01:43:06,360
particular lineage and pastry,
you know, that we're very proud

1575
01:43:06,360 --> 01:43:09,870
of. I'm not not ashamed of
anything that my ancestors went

1576
01:43:09,870 --> 01:43:12,690
through. But I just wanted to
say that, but that kind of just

1577
01:43:12,690 --> 01:43:16,950
lays out sharecropping a little
bit. And to put a little bit

1578
01:43:16,950 --> 01:43:19,920
more flesh on the idea of
sharecropping, let's get to

1579
01:43:19,920 --> 01:43:21,990
slavery to mass incarceration
three.

1580
01:43:22,350 --> 01:43:25,860
Even as the Civil War raged,
slave trading in Montgomery

1581
01:43:25,860 --> 01:43:30,660
flourished well into the mid
1860s. After the Confederacy

1582
01:43:30,660 --> 01:43:35,040
surrender in 1865, Congress
passed the 13th Amendment, which

1583
01:43:35,040 --> 01:43:38,610
prohibited slavery nationwide,
except as a punishment for

1584
01:43:38,610 --> 01:43:42,450
crime. But in many former slave
states, slavery did not end it

1585
01:43:42,450 --> 01:43:46,710
simply evolved. Southern whites
angry after losing the war

1586
01:43:46,710 --> 01:43:49,650
targeted black people who were
largely abandoned by the federal

1587
01:43:49,650 --> 01:43:53,610
government in the 1870s. For
decades, black men, women and

1588
01:43:53,610 --> 01:43:57,300
children were tortured,
terrorized and killed by mobs

1589
01:43:57,300 --> 01:44:01,770
and violent lynchings. oppressed
by a system of racist laws and

1590
01:44:01,770 --> 01:44:06,030
customs. For another 100 years,
black people were racially

1591
01:44:06,030 --> 01:44:09,870
segregated, denied the right to
vote, education and basic

1592
01:44:09,870 --> 01:44:14,820
dignity. They were humiliated,
beaten, or killed for minor

1593
01:44:14,820 --> 01:44:18,240
offenses or for protesting the
civil rights movement of the

1594
01:44:18,240 --> 01:44:22,110
1950s and 60s helped to end
legally authorized racial

1595
01:44:22,110 --> 01:44:25,500
segregation, but racial bias
still persists.

1596
01:44:26,490 --> 01:44:32,010
Yeah, and then this is the Kanye
kind of topic where he talks

1597
01:44:32,010 --> 01:44:37,260
about the 13th amendment and and
how incarceration is clearly a

1598
01:44:37,260 --> 01:44:38,280
form of slavery.

1599
01:44:39,330 --> 01:44:42,750
Yeah, I mean, when we say Have
you ever committed a crime? It's

1600
01:44:42,750 --> 01:44:46,410
okay. You can be a slave. Yeah.
And you'll end up

1601
01:44:46,890 --> 01:44:50,010
Yeah, and you'll be making stuff
for IKEA. You'll be making stuff

1602
01:44:50,010 --> 01:44:55,080
for some some of the biggest
clothing manufacturers that the

1603
01:44:55,080 --> 01:44:58,590
commercial Corrections
Corporation of America. At one

1604
01:44:58,590 --> 01:45:02,010
point, most of it owned by Bill
Gates, just as a side note, and

1605
01:45:02,010 --> 01:45:06,060
Warren Buffett and a couple
other people like that. That's

1606
01:45:06,060 --> 01:45:10,290
that's the business is your role
in the human, the human beings

1607
01:45:10,320 --> 01:45:13,650
and you lock them up and you
make them work. And you

1608
01:45:13,650 --> 01:45:16,740
almost keep me down a rabbit
hole with your last episode of

1609
01:45:16,740 --> 01:45:19,770
no agenda with the mass
incarceration in the you know,

1610
01:45:19,770 --> 01:45:24,300
the companies behind I mean,
excuse me the circle. Yeah, I

1611
01:45:24,300 --> 01:45:26,760
was I was holding on to the edge
of the rental house that had no,

1612
01:45:27,180 --> 01:45:31,080
careful now you gotta be careful
that one goes so deep Mo is is

1613
01:45:31,080 --> 01:45:33,660
crazy. That's that's a real,
real deep one.

1614
01:45:35,040 --> 01:45:37,260
No, we are gonna go down it. But
I was just saying, like, for

1615
01:45:37,260 --> 01:45:46,080
this show, I was like, No. Way
too much. But yeah, so this

1616
01:45:46,080 --> 01:45:49,680
thing called sharecropping, with
just slavery as another name

1617
01:45:49,710 --> 01:45:53,880
under another name. And to
further prove that point, I

1618
01:45:53,880 --> 01:45:59,910
found this interesting piece
from vise. And as a genealogist

1619
01:45:59,910 --> 01:46:02,670
who tracks down modern day
slavery practices.

1620
01:46:02,790 --> 01:46:06,000
Although sharecropping was
technically legal, the practice

1621
01:46:06,000 --> 01:46:09,660
was widely abused by white
landowners who use debts to keep

1622
01:46:09,660 --> 01:46:12,720
African Americans tied to the
land that they once worked at

1623
01:46:12,720 --> 01:46:16,680
slaves. sharecroppers didn't pay
rent, but they didn't own any

1624
01:46:16,680 --> 01:46:21,030
property. And today, historians
agree sharecropping was just

1625
01:46:21,030 --> 01:46:22,440
slavery by a different name.

1626
01:46:22,950 --> 01:46:28,530
So many former enslaved Africans
had nothing, I had no choice to

1627
01:46:28,530 --> 01:46:33,690
add a year. You owe me no matter
how hard you work, you are told,

1628
01:46:34,230 --> 01:46:35,130
sorry.

1629
01:46:35,430 --> 01:46:38,580
And those cases relate directly
to your cases today, right?

1630
01:46:38,760 --> 01:46:46,170
After slavery. These are like
1921 1930 1940s to 50s and some

1631
01:46:46,170 --> 01:46:47,640
of them to the 60s.

1632
01:46:54,150 --> 01:46:58,230
Antoinette's very first case was
May Luis Miller, a woman who was

1633
01:46:58,230 --> 01:47:01,590
held as a slave with her entire
family and Mississippi until

1634
01:47:01,590 --> 01:47:07,290
1961. Domi passed away in 2014,
Antoinette took us to see one of

1635
01:47:07,290 --> 01:47:08,910
her brothers, Arthur Miller

1636
01:47:10,830 --> 01:47:15,030
May an author began to have the
older sisters and brothers say

1637
01:47:15,030 --> 01:47:20,010
remember, like they took a long
time before author really open

1638
01:47:20,010 --> 01:47:20,820
up and talk.

1639
01:47:22,320 --> 01:47:26,700
Wow, this is this was kind of
nice with with your, your

1640
01:47:26,730 --> 01:47:29,820
grandfather that there's records
of this stuff.

1641
01:47:31,110 --> 01:47:33,870
There's plenty of records, you
know, why those records? Could

1642
01:47:33,870 --> 01:47:37,830
they were property? Yeah, it to
have property. It's not about

1643
01:47:37,830 --> 01:47:40,680
the, you know, the birth
certificate or things you had to

1644
01:47:40,680 --> 01:47:43,650
keep, you know, record for tax
purposes, kind of

1645
01:47:43,650 --> 01:47:45,360
keep track of your essence.

1646
01:47:45,900 --> 01:47:54,330
Correct. So there, there are a
no a bevy of, of, of records and

1647
01:47:54,330 --> 01:47:58,080
documents and all these things.
And now with genealogy and those

1648
01:47:58,080 --> 01:48:00,810
kinds of things. They can be dug
up very easily. I mean, this

1649
01:48:00,810 --> 01:48:05,910
lady here, she has one leg, she
lost one to cancer. And she's

1650
01:48:05,910 --> 01:48:10,860
kicking ass i No pun intended.
But reason why I'm saying is she

1651
01:48:10,860 --> 01:48:13,920
could let anything stop her. But
she not only does this but she

1652
01:48:13,920 --> 01:48:17,880
goes and helps other people
single handedly. I mean, this is

1653
01:48:17,880 --> 01:48:20,970
what these are people that we
need to be highlighting, as

1654
01:48:20,970 --> 01:48:24,930
heroes and right, you know,
leaders and if you want to use

1655
01:48:24,930 --> 01:48:29,880
that term, or there'll be no b2b
lionized. I'm sure she's not

1656
01:48:29,880 --> 01:48:33,450
making that much money, if
anything, but she feels is

1657
01:48:33,450 --> 01:48:36,540
important that these people that
have been held in slavery in

1658
01:48:36,540 --> 01:48:43,290
1960 Yeah. That which brings to
mind that what it is not related

1659
01:48:43,290 --> 01:48:47,520
in a way but it is but the
colorism thing with the 1970s

1660
01:48:47,520 --> 01:48:52,770
with HBCUs Yeah, these these
things die hard. Yeah. And will

1661
01:48:52,770 --> 01:48:57,390
you go back and listen to the
massive speaks? He said this? I

1662
01:48:57,390 --> 01:49:00,660
mean, you can you have to listen
to what he said. He said these

1663
01:49:00,660 --> 01:49:05,520
things is like straightening
teeth. And he was very serious

1664
01:49:05,520 --> 01:49:11,280
about it that they would not let
their slaves go. And so and a

1665
01:49:11,280 --> 01:49:15,630
lot of times slaves didn't want
to go because yeah, you that's a

1666
01:49:15,630 --> 01:49:18,420
whole new world out there. Like
what about how do I fit in

1667
01:49:18,420 --> 01:49:21,630
there? You know, I know. I know
this evil you know, they're

1668
01:49:21,630 --> 01:49:24,330
like, they say like the devil
that you know, is better than

1669
01:49:24,330 --> 01:49:28,110
the devil that you don't it's
kind of thing it's like so a lot

1670
01:49:28,110 --> 01:49:31,650
of times people just willingly
stayed on the plantations but

1671
01:49:31,920 --> 01:49:35,130
other ones they stayed willingly
cost the other option they

1672
01:49:35,130 --> 01:49:38,550
thought was death or what is
going to be laid out in a second

1673
01:49:38,550 --> 01:49:39,540
clip from Vice

1674
01:49:39,720 --> 01:49:43,980
related on how the what would
you call it but some like a

1675
01:49:43,980 --> 01:49:48,450
plantation to me. They belong to
different white people they own

1676
01:49:48,480 --> 01:49:52,680
with family, I guess and you
couldn't leave anybody lead

1677
01:49:52,680 --> 01:49:57,570
either. Come get your hair,
somebody to kill you or

1678
01:49:57,570 --> 01:50:01,380
whatever. Whatever. That's what
happened. Cindy, my mama bear

1679
01:50:01,740 --> 01:50:05,190
what they do to your mother?
They just pair my mother, you

1680
01:50:05,190 --> 01:50:10,530
know, the white me. You know,
they just do what they want to

1681
01:50:10,530 --> 01:50:16,920
do what I just want doesn't have
to do if I wouldn't be in I

1682
01:50:16,920 --> 01:50:18,510
don't know, probably wouldn't be

1683
01:50:19,230 --> 01:50:22,920
in this was in the 1950s or 40s

1684
01:50:22,950 --> 01:50:28,200
There was only through the 40s
and 50s all through the 50s for

1685
01:50:28,200 --> 01:50:28,980
the 60s.

1686
01:50:29,219 --> 01:50:32,819
So what would the repercussions
be if you tried to leave or if

1687
01:50:32,819 --> 01:50:34,829
you tried to refuse what they
want it

1688
01:50:35,099 --> 01:50:38,519
back in them days it was kinda
like you here to do what the

1689
01:50:38,519 --> 01:50:45,839
white man see it or geekier and
there is no medium degree but he

1690
01:50:45,839 --> 01:50:53,729
killed the Burmese angry deer
Dawson, they kill him. He didn't

1691
01:50:53,729 --> 01:50:58,259
run the same pleasently he left
he would come back and he

1692
01:50:58,259 --> 01:51:01,469
wouldn't go to Boulder bank, get
a read on him from his house.

1693
01:51:03,359 --> 01:51:07,619
hung him up in a tree. They hung
him fish kill him first. Just

1694
01:51:07,619 --> 01:51:10,679
harass him and hung him up. Read
from his halfway children.

1695
01:51:10,679 --> 01:51:11,429
Nobody could see.

1696
01:51:12,660 --> 01:51:17,070
I don't know much mo but I think
the idea that you've got to dig

1697
01:51:17,070 --> 01:51:21,120
your own grave, just to be
killed is kind of a de wrecker.

1698
01:51:22,320 --> 01:51:25,350
And castrated, forget castrated
am

1699
01:51:25,350 --> 01:51:30,600
man. And so I lay all this out,
what's the timeframe of that?

1700
01:51:30,600 --> 01:51:30,930
Mo?

1701
01:51:31,590 --> 01:51:39,480
1940s 50s and 60s. So we're not
talking. He will say, Oh,

1702
01:51:39,480 --> 01:51:42,210
slavery ended on this day, get
over it. You know, everything

1703
01:51:42,240 --> 01:51:48,810
was peachy after that? No, no.
Now for my family. Luckily, no,

1704
01:51:48,840 --> 01:51:52,110
they eventually were able to own
land. I mean, a lot of times

1705
01:51:52,110 --> 01:51:55,290
what you would do or mean, go
back give some context to

1706
01:51:55,290 --> 01:51:58,470
sharecropping and cotton, those
kinds of things, if you were

1707
01:51:58,470 --> 01:52:00,990
smart enough, or you dealt with
people that were on the up and

1708
01:52:01,020 --> 01:52:05,460
up, which was very rare. Um, you
could eventually have enough

1709
01:52:05,460 --> 01:52:10,830
kids to where you can work the
land, make a profit off of your,

1710
01:52:10,860 --> 01:52:15,360
you know, your goods, and buy
your land. If you're lucky

1711
01:52:15,360 --> 01:52:17,820
enough, I mean, that mean that,
like I said, For me to be

1712
01:52:17,820 --> 01:52:21,180
sitting here, right now, a lot
of things had to fall into

1713
01:52:21,180 --> 01:52:25,710
place, in the right way, right.
So I don't want to ever want

1714
01:52:25,710 --> 01:52:29,640
people to think that I'm the
norm. And neither are these

1715
01:52:29,640 --> 01:52:31,920
people. This is not the norm,
but it's somewhere in between

1716
01:52:31,920 --> 01:52:39,030
there. Well, I'm just saying
these things exist. And to keep

1717
01:52:39,030 --> 01:52:43,350
this structure and this system
in place, they did things like

1718
01:52:43,350 --> 01:52:47,430
create the one drop rule.
Explain what the one drop rule

1719
01:52:47,430 --> 01:52:48,240
is. the one

1720
01:52:48,240 --> 01:52:51,540
drop rule, historically, also
known as a rule of hypo descent

1721
01:52:51,570 --> 01:52:54,780
was really instituted to protect
whiteness, it was a way for the

1722
01:52:54,780 --> 01:52:58,830
white majority to be able to
name and incite who was white.

1723
01:52:58,830 --> 01:53:03,690
So it was one drop, which is
1/32 130 seconds of Negro or

1724
01:53:03,690 --> 01:53:06,930
African blood would make that
person Negro or African.

1725
01:53:06,930 --> 01:53:09,150
Whatever the classification they
used at the time I hear

1726
01:53:09,150 --> 01:53:11,430
people say we're in a post
racial society,

1727
01:53:11,550 --> 01:53:14,310
the reality is, in order to get
beyond something, you have to

1728
01:53:14,310 --> 01:53:17,850
understand it right. And where
in your education, where have

1729
01:53:17,850 --> 01:53:21,690
you been required to learn about
race? They don't teach it. No,

1730
01:53:21,720 --> 01:53:26,010
it is the foundation of this
country. We have to talk about

1731
01:53:26,010 --> 01:53:28,890
race, we have to talk about
racial difference. It is just a

1732
01:53:28,890 --> 01:53:32,070
flat out lie for us to believe
that we've moved beyond race.

1733
01:53:32,250 --> 01:53:36,000
How long ago was that? When Don
Lemon had the Dr. Yaba Blay on I

1734
01:53:36,000 --> 01:53:36,630
mean, that's,

1735
01:53:37,650 --> 01:53:40,560
I'm thinking 2012 It was an
Obama and I

1736
01:53:40,559 --> 01:53:43,349
was gonna say it's kind of it's
kind of a semi sane

1737
01:53:43,349 --> 01:53:46,739
conversation, which I don't
think Don Lemon is capable of

1738
01:53:46,739 --> 01:53:49,979
anymore. You know, he's, he's,
he's, she's a victim of the

1739
01:53:49,979 --> 01:53:52,889
narrative. He really is. He
really is. But there's a good

1740
01:53:52,889 --> 01:53:56,699
guy hiding in there. I can't
help but think he knows he

1741
01:53:56,699 --> 01:54:00,389
knows. But he's in the weird
position, I guess.

1742
01:54:01,170 --> 01:54:05,730
Yeah, he is. And for her to say
that. No, racism is the

1743
01:54:05,730 --> 01:54:10,140
foundation of this country. If
people hear that at first, and

1744
01:54:10,140 --> 01:54:15,660
don't go through the previous 18
clips are 19 clips are laid out.

1745
01:54:15,960 --> 01:54:18,780
Like what are you talking about?
It freaks you out? Exactly. But

1746
01:54:18,780 --> 01:54:23,730
when you understand how sugar
and cotton were the fuel, the

1747
01:54:23,730 --> 01:54:28,350
rocket fuel for this nation? And
how that was basically

1748
01:54:28,350 --> 01:54:32,400
manufactured from black hands,
black enslave hands. I mean,

1749
01:54:32,400 --> 01:54:35,550
could there's no other way you
could pick those crops up into

1750
01:54:35,550 --> 01:54:40,140
1927 As stated, you know, from
the southerners themselves. Now

1751
01:54:40,140 --> 01:54:43,290
you understand why you say
racism is country is based off

1752
01:54:43,290 --> 01:54:46,350
racism. But if you throw it out
there without supplying it,

1753
01:54:46,890 --> 01:54:48,810
people aren't What are you
talking about? I mean, like, I

1754
01:54:48,810 --> 01:54:49,260
don't know,

1755
01:54:49,799 --> 01:54:55,379
what's not it's not even racism.
It's the country developed as

1756
01:54:55,379 --> 01:54:58,469
the country developed. People
started of course, it took way

1757
01:54:58,469 --> 01:55:02,159
too long. But People started to
figure out, like, go back to the

1758
01:55:02,159 --> 01:55:04,349
beginning, oh, wait a minute,
these are these people, these

1759
01:55:04,349 --> 01:55:07,019
are people, these are human
beings. So it was a it was a

1760
01:55:07,019 --> 01:55:11,579
dual process, not a racist
thing. It was just complete

1761
01:55:11,609 --> 01:55:15,719
ignorance. And God, you know,
did they they barely believe the

1762
01:55:15,719 --> 01:55:19,379
world was round. I mean, it was
a lot of learning in the time,

1763
01:55:20,040 --> 01:55:32,160
allegedly round, but not had
been fair. Oh. So you had to

1764
01:55:32,160 --> 01:55:35,040
take all this in context. Even
the founding fathers knew when

1765
01:55:35,040 --> 01:55:38,370
they were writing the
Constitution, and you know, the

1766
01:55:38,370 --> 01:55:42,510
Bill of Rights and all these
things. They knew it was wrong,

1767
01:55:42,510 --> 01:55:44,820
but it's like for the greater
good, we're building this

1768
01:55:44,820 --> 01:55:47,340
nation, and it's going to be a
beacon of light, you know, hope,

1769
01:55:47,370 --> 01:55:49,830
you know, it gets a monarchy,
and, you know, those kinds of

1770
01:55:49,830 --> 01:55:56,070
things like, we might have to
dabble in human trafficking, or

1771
01:55:56,100 --> 01:55:59,790
our own ownership of people or,
you know, making people seem

1772
01:55:59,790 --> 01:56:03,420
like property, but it's for the
greater good. Because you saw a

1773
01:56:03,420 --> 01:56:06,450
lot of the founding fathers free
their slaves at their death.

1774
01:56:07,770 --> 01:56:12,420
Right. But the system while I'm
alive, but when I die, it's so

1775
01:56:12,420 --> 01:56:17,700
they had an understanding of it,
but it's I'll say this, how many

1776
01:56:17,700 --> 01:56:23,850
of us gonna give up on Nikes?
Right? We know, yeah, for sure.

1777
01:56:23,850 --> 01:56:29,040
How many of us gonna give up our
phones? No, I don't think so. So

1778
01:56:29,040 --> 01:56:32,340
I mean, you when we judge the
Fade, we had to use a bit of

1779
01:56:35,790 --> 01:56:40,110
nuance. And not only that, but
don't be hypocritical, because

1780
01:56:40,110 --> 01:56:44,040
we know how we get our Nikes we
know how we get our hair weave.

1781
01:56:46,260 --> 01:56:48,810
Oh, yeah, we don't want to talk
about that. So I'm not what I'm

1782
01:56:48,810 --> 01:56:51,660
not I'm not Pooh poohing. I'm
just saying we have to look at

1783
01:56:51,660 --> 01:56:55,710
things in a certain perspective
to say in that time, it was

1784
01:56:55,710 --> 01:57:01,290
acceptable. But now that we know
better, what are we going to do

1785
01:57:01,290 --> 01:57:05,280
about it? Because there are
people who still have real life

1786
01:57:05,820 --> 01:57:10,140
repercussions. I mean, this guy
was 1960. He could easily have

1787
01:57:10,140 --> 01:57:12,960
children my age or grandchildren
my age.

1788
01:57:14,640 --> 01:57:18,960
You know, it's kind of sad, just
thinking through it. How the

1789
01:57:18,960 --> 01:57:27,090
cotton industry which made sugar
and cotton made America, the

1790
01:57:27,120 --> 01:57:30,300
powerhouse that it is, that was
the whole the whole genesis of

1791
01:57:30,300 --> 01:57:33,720
it, that we have so easily
flipped that and then now we

1792
01:57:33,720 --> 01:57:37,350
just got some weaker slaves and
China handling the cotton. You

1793
01:57:37,350 --> 01:57:38,160
know, it's like

1794
01:57:38,160 --> 01:57:42,060
what it has to be a bottom,
there always has to be a bottom.

1795
01:57:45,750 --> 01:57:48,390
And that's the narrative against
capitalism, right? I mean,

1796
01:57:48,390 --> 01:57:52,260
that's the that's the one. Narco
capitalist myth, there always

1797
01:57:52,260 --> 01:57:55,350
has to be. And I'm saying that
because they opened the door,

1798
01:57:55,350 --> 01:57:57,330
we're gonna get there walk
through that door in a minute.

1799
01:57:57,690 --> 01:58:00,540
But to speak about the bottom,
we have to go back that

1800
01:58:00,540 --> 01:58:04,860
throwback clip from show 48. And
this is when we brought in the

1801
01:58:04,860 --> 01:58:08,460
idea of the ritual sacrifice,
and striving to be white.

1802
01:58:09,330 --> 01:58:13,230
Gerard isolates three distinct
bodies within the community, the

1803
01:58:13,230 --> 01:58:18,690
model, the rival, and the ritual
victim. And he sees within the

1804
01:58:18,690 --> 01:58:22,650
community a driving function of
competition, and the potential

1805
01:58:22,650 --> 01:58:26,610
for violence. So the model, in
our case, the plantation elite,

1806
01:58:26,640 --> 01:58:29,760
or elite whites, are in
possession of an object, they're

1807
01:58:29,760 --> 01:58:33,090
in possession of something. In
the political realm, we might

1808
01:58:33,090 --> 01:58:37,470
think of the soleus capital. But
if we think of it more broadly,

1809
01:58:37,650 --> 01:58:41,850
they're really in possession of
something called white, which

1810
01:58:41,850 --> 01:58:45,630
stands for all sorts of things,
concepts of election purity,

1811
01:58:45,660 --> 01:58:49,860
goodness, and provenance. And I
was doing research in Weidner

1812
01:58:49,860 --> 01:58:54,630
library at Harvard, and they,
they had this book. And it had

1813
01:58:54,660 --> 01:58:58,800
something like the 23 races of
English people, which, which

1814
01:58:58,800 --> 01:59:04,380
sounds surprising, right? But
not really, right. But it all

1815
01:59:04,380 --> 01:59:09,030
feeds into that chain moving
towards the Elite model, the

1816
01:59:09,030 --> 01:59:13,440
person who is holding the
desirable quality at the top.

1817
01:59:15,330 --> 01:59:20,700
Now, elites are able to generate
allegiance, and they are able to

1818
01:59:20,700 --> 01:59:25,020
generate disciples by making
whiteness a desirable quality.

1819
01:59:25,890 --> 01:59:31,290
Yeah, and as we've discussed
many times, on the show, that

1820
01:59:31,290 --> 01:59:34,260
was very big in Europe is
bringing some white people for

1821
01:59:34,260 --> 01:59:36,510
power, political power, we'll
just call them white.

1822
01:59:37,890 --> 01:59:40,740
All right, and then you see why
it's binary. Now. It's either

1823
01:59:40,740 --> 01:59:44,160
you're white or you're not. Yep.
Now, and it's crazy because you

1824
01:59:44,160 --> 01:59:49,110
could have one child has three
white grandparents weren't black

1825
01:59:49,110 --> 01:59:52,560
grandparent, he's black. And
nobody blinks the arm when you

1826
01:59:52,560 --> 01:59:57,240
say that. I'm black. I mean,
look at Meghan Markel. her

1827
01:59:57,240 --> 02:00:00,810
child's because he could easily
consider itself black Nobody one

1828
02:00:00,810 --> 02:00:05,580
black guy, but you could have
three white grandparents. One

1829
02:00:05,580 --> 02:00:08,370
black, I'm not home. You could
have three black grandparents,

1830
02:00:08,370 --> 02:00:11,670
one white grandparent, you can't
call yourself white. Why is

1831
02:00:11,670 --> 02:00:17,850
that? Yeah. I don't know. What's
this though? No, I'm just saying

1832
02:00:17,850 --> 02:00:22,830
what system? If you met somebody
and maybe they know they pretty

1833
02:00:22,830 --> 02:00:25,740
much will look like Barack Obama
Right? Or maybe even dark,

1834
02:00:25,740 --> 02:00:29,460
right? And so I'm, I'm, you
know, I know. I mean, they

1835
02:00:29,460 --> 02:00:34,110
explained to us now yeah, I'm
white. And you like, what? Yeah,

1836
02:00:34,140 --> 02:00:38,370
no, no, I have a grandparent one
of my grandparents are our wasp.

1837
02:00:41,550 --> 02:00:46,080
It wouldn't sit well with no of
course not. But if you put that

1838
02:00:46,320 --> 02:00:50,850
180 degrees No, we're all used
to it. It's good to go if if I

1839
02:00:50,850 --> 02:00:53,400
forget his name the baby you
know, Santa baby mark will or

1840
02:00:53,400 --> 02:00:56,730
whatever, you know, cuz I said
no, I identify as black. I

1841
02:00:56,730 --> 02:00:59,280
didn't pop my black. There's
nobody says anything. That goes

1842
02:00:59,280 --> 02:01:03,420
to show you the one drop rule is
striving to be white. It's still

1843
02:01:03,420 --> 02:01:03,840
alive.

1844
02:01:04,080 --> 02:01:08,400
And for the one drop rule, I'd
refer you to episode number nine

1845
02:01:08,490 --> 02:01:11,970
is where you can go here. It's
very it's well worth it. One of

1846
02:01:11,970 --> 02:01:14,400
the one of the big aha moments
for me.

1847
02:01:15,090 --> 02:01:20,910
Yes. Now we had to venture on to
Episode 43. And like I said, a

1848
02:01:20,940 --> 02:01:23,460
lot of this is gonna be
throwback now. But I had to lay

1849
02:01:23,490 --> 02:01:26,670
out how we got to the
conversation that we had.

1850
02:01:26,700 --> 02:01:29,190
No, you're just ratcheting us up
to the top of the roller

1851
02:01:29,190 --> 02:01:31,410
coaster. We know what's
happening. They know what you're

1852
02:01:31,410 --> 02:01:34,050
doing. Go ahead and tighten the
chain. Let's get there.

1853
02:01:34,620 --> 02:01:39,810
All right. So take in mind
sharecropping, being lynched,

1854
02:01:39,900 --> 02:01:43,560
digging your own grave being
castrated.

1855
02:01:43,740 --> 02:01:47,070
What if someone showed up and
just just said, Hey, we can

1856
02:01:47,070 --> 02:01:47,550
help?

1857
02:01:48,840 --> 02:01:50,070
How about communism?

1858
02:01:50,190 --> 02:01:53,430
How did you get interested in
this topic? And as I mentioned,

1859
02:01:53,430 --> 02:01:56,910
it is a sensitive topic, because
there are those for decades

1860
02:01:56,910 --> 02:02:00,540
who've worked to tamp down the
suggestion that anybody in the

1861
02:02:00,540 --> 02:02:02,970
civil rights movement was
attracted to the Communist Party

1862
02:02:03,030 --> 02:02:03,540
at all.

1863
02:02:03,930 --> 02:02:06,930
Exactly. And this is a story
that actually predates the civil

1864
02:02:06,930 --> 02:02:11,220
rights movement, as we know it.
Going back to the 1930s. I

1865
02:02:11,220 --> 02:02:15,570
became interested in this as a
doctoral dissertation back in

1866
02:02:15,570 --> 02:02:19,620
the mid 80s, when I was very
active in a lot of social

1867
02:02:19,620 --> 02:02:24,900
movements in actually in the LA
area. And I wanted to know, how

1868
02:02:24,930 --> 02:02:29,370
the communist party organized
African Americans, particularly

1869
02:02:29,370 --> 02:02:33,990
in places where black people
were the majority. And there I

1870
02:02:33,990 --> 02:02:37,500
discovered a very vibrant
movement that very few people

1871
02:02:37,500 --> 02:02:41,130
wrote about that, basically,
were two stories, one memoir by

1872
02:02:41,460 --> 02:02:44,970
a man named Jose Hudson. And
then another story in a book

1873
02:02:44,970 --> 02:02:47,820
called all God's dangers, which
is about him, an African

1874
02:02:47,820 --> 02:02:48,960
American sharecropper,

1875
02:02:49,770 --> 02:02:51,060
just the life of Nate Shaw. I

1876
02:02:51,060 --> 02:02:54,840
remember that exactly. But his
real name was Ned Cobb, and he

1877
02:02:54,870 --> 02:02:58,080
was a pseudonym. And it's a
beautiful book that tells his

1878
02:02:58,080 --> 02:03:02,580
life story, only a portion of it
deals with his membership in the

1879
02:03:02,580 --> 02:03:05,910
communist led sharecroppers
union, which at one point, had

1880
02:03:05,910 --> 02:03:11,280
about 12,000 members in the
blackbelt counties of Alabama,

1881
02:03:11,370 --> 02:03:15,540
and were all the members black.
Well, in Alabama, there was a

1882
02:03:15,540 --> 02:03:19,530
point when basically all the
members except one, two, all

1883
02:03:19,530 --> 02:03:26,850
African American sharecroppers
and tenant farmers. Love that.

1884
02:03:28,020 --> 02:03:37,890
This is why I say what I say
about atonement and justice. If

1885
02:03:37,890 --> 02:03:43,020
there were to atone for what
happened and give these people

1886
02:03:43,020 --> 02:03:47,490
justice, you don't create a
hotbed for outside interests to

1887
02:03:47,490 --> 02:03:51,600
come in and weaponize people
against you. Within your

1888
02:03:51,600 --> 02:03:56,310
borders. This is bigger than
black people. This is bigger

1889
02:03:56,310 --> 02:04:02,280
than a Das. You're creating the
environment and keeping the

1890
02:04:02,280 --> 02:04:05,790
environment thriving for
Marxism. Hello, do we not see

1891
02:04:05,790 --> 02:04:06,570
what's going on?

1892
02:04:06,630 --> 02:04:07,710
DLM NK

1893
02:04:09,630 --> 02:04:13,830
funded by who? We don't have to
say who we know who I'm just

1894
02:04:13,830 --> 02:04:17,280
saying. So it's the same. I'm
gonna draw these parallels now.

1895
02:04:18,150 --> 02:04:22,530
The same environment where
Marxism communism could thrive

1896
02:04:22,530 --> 02:04:26,400
or the idea could thrive still
exists today? Because the

1897
02:04:26,400 --> 02:04:29,910
atonement has never happened.
And once you do atone for

1898
02:04:29,910 --> 02:04:34,170
whatever happened. Now, it's
like, you know what, I de

1899
02:04:34,170 --> 02:04:37,890
weaponize your victim claim if
you want to look at that way.

1900
02:04:38,160 --> 02:04:41,580
No, you can't bring that up
anymore. But I won't bring that

1901
02:04:41,580 --> 02:04:44,580
up anymore. And the people that
didn't go through that we can

1902
02:04:44,580 --> 02:04:46,980
alias like, you know, no, you're
not Aidan. What are you what's

1903
02:04:46,980 --> 02:04:50,580
your complaint? You can't you
can't hear oh, you're all free.

1904
02:04:50,580 --> 02:04:53,850
We'll Why are you What do you
have to do? I mean, this is this

1905
02:04:53,850 --> 02:05:00,000
is this is family business, in a
way because this but yeah, how

1906
02:05:00,000 --> 02:05:03,630
hoped to see why this is
important. While that was

1907
02:05:03,630 --> 02:05:04,200
happening, and

1908
02:05:04,200 --> 02:05:07,260
we're making, we're making the
same stupid mistakes,

1909
02:05:08,940 --> 02:05:13,620
what has been resolved nothing,
no. And, and I'll say that on

1910
02:05:13,620 --> 02:05:17,670
both sides, the Boulay
membership, don't help me build

1911
02:05:17,670 --> 02:05:19,890
a leadership doesn't help
because they just come in. And

1912
02:05:19,890 --> 02:05:22,830
they know, we've had the
conversation. I didn't clip it

1913
02:05:22,860 --> 02:05:26,220
on him any clips in here? They
just profit off of black

1914
02:05:26,220 --> 02:05:30,390
suffering. Yes, I Oh, yeah. Look
how poor your bad black people

1915
02:05:31,740 --> 02:05:34,200
will manage the money will
manage the money for them will

1916
02:05:34,200 --> 02:05:36,540
take care of because you know,
they didn't they only buy Gucci.

1917
02:05:36,540 --> 02:05:37,620
So we got to take care of it.

1918
02:05:38,099 --> 02:05:41,759
And it never reaches the people.
And then you have this perpetual

1919
02:05:41,759 --> 02:05:46,769
suffering and victimization that
thrives and you know, as a

1920
02:05:47,309 --> 02:05:52,169
breeding ground for these
foreign ideas, which, trust me.

1921
02:05:54,119 --> 02:06:02,129
We know how communism ends.
poorly. And really, if I'm gonna

1922
02:06:02,129 --> 02:06:05,489
say this, and it may be a
heartache. If the south got

1923
02:06:05,489 --> 02:06:08,579
their act together and would win
the free day slaves, I would

1924
02:06:08,579 --> 02:06:10,499
think they would have probably
won the Civil War.

1925
02:06:12,090 --> 02:06:16,770
Yeah, I think that's yeah, real
possibility. That would have

1926
02:06:16,770 --> 02:06:18,150
changed the course of history.

1927
02:06:18,810 --> 02:06:21,870
And then you fast forward. And
now the only problem the

1928
02:06:21,870 --> 02:06:24,780
Republicans have with black
people is racing relations.

1929
02:06:24,810 --> 02:06:27,450
Yeah, if you just want to take
it to political, if they

1930
02:06:27,450 --> 02:06:33,300
resolved that issue. A lot of
the, you know, planks of the

1931
02:06:33,300 --> 02:06:36,900
Republican Party black people on
board for black people are very

1932
02:06:36,900 --> 02:06:42,180
conservative, you know, faith
based? What is that? One thing

1933
02:06:42,180 --> 02:06:46,920
is that is the pm in the
mattress. I mean, that, that you

1934
02:06:46,920 --> 02:06:51,030
know, that that won't people let
people rest? Is this race

1935
02:06:51,030 --> 02:06:53,850
relations? Which atonement was
all for? And like I said, I'm

1936
02:06:53,850 --> 02:06:59,190
just not. I'm just explaining to
you. This is the tangible ask,

1937
02:06:59,190 --> 02:07:03,240
right? This is the maturation
process of 2020 of black people

1938
02:07:03,240 --> 02:07:08,250
in America. It's like, you know,
what's going on? You know, what

1939
02:07:08,250 --> 02:07:12,540
happened, as the Internet came
about smartphone YouTube, a lot

1940
02:07:12,540 --> 02:07:18,060
more people know. It's not like
I'm digging up these facts from,

1941
02:07:18,330 --> 02:07:22,110
you know, ancient or antiquated
workbooks,

1942
02:07:22,230 --> 02:07:26,880
we have such forces working
against this type of awakening

1943
02:07:26,880 --> 02:07:30,450
this type of knowledge, you
know, do with just the, you

1944
02:07:30,450 --> 02:07:33,330
know, we talk a lot about it,
but with narratives and

1945
02:07:33,330 --> 02:07:36,870
positioning statements, and
entire, and I think a lot of

1946
02:07:36,870 --> 02:07:41,250
these people actually may not
even be so bad willed. But

1947
02:07:41,250 --> 02:07:46,050
they're financed by people who
have no good in mind, often. And

1948
02:07:46,050 --> 02:07:48,450
then people just, you know,
they've gotten the story.

1949
02:07:48,450 --> 02:07:51,600
They're under informed and they
go out and they do whatever they

1950
02:07:51,600 --> 02:07:56,040
think is right. And it's it's
such a destructive, vicious

1951
02:07:56,040 --> 02:07:56,580
cycle.

1952
02:07:57,900 --> 02:08:00,150
And what was the takeaway
dispatched for it was saying,

1953
02:08:00,180 --> 02:08:02,520
Bring us the real time right
now, before we get back into the

1954
02:08:02,520 --> 02:08:06,630
clips. What was the argument and
the big takeaway from the

1955
02:08:06,630 --> 02:08:09,870
debates? Trump's a white
supremacist

1956
02:08:11,460 --> 02:08:15,630
supremacist, the only thing that
nothing else came out of it.

1957
02:08:15,630 --> 02:08:18,330
You're so right. Oh, my, yeah.

1958
02:08:19,350 --> 02:08:24,060
Who are they talking to? Yeah, I
keep telling this whole election

1959
02:08:24,060 --> 02:08:29,640
hinges off of what black men are
gonna do. That was the whole

1960
02:08:29,640 --> 02:08:32,910
talking point of the Democrats
is oh, he's a white supremacist

1961
02:08:32,910 --> 02:08:35,580
he wants Oh, he won't, you know,
he won't denounce,

1962
02:08:35,610 --> 02:08:39,210
he's trotting out his kryptonite
black people. And here he comes

1963
02:08:39,210 --> 02:08:41,520
with a plan. And like I said, I
haven't looked into all the nuts

1964
02:08:41,520 --> 02:08:46,560
and bolts of the plan. And it
sounds very similar to Mary Ann

1965
02:08:46,560 --> 02:08:51,420
waves his plan. I mean, to be
honest, he might have, you know,

1966
02:08:51,420 --> 02:08:54,120
borrowed that from her even down
to the dollar amount. Well,

1967
02:08:55,050 --> 02:08:58,500
there's no doubt when you want
to package something. He's the

1968
02:08:58,500 --> 02:09:02,520
best, of course, package that up
as the platinum plan for

1969
02:09:02,520 --> 02:09:05,820
America's blacks was. Trump

1970
02:09:05,849 --> 02:09:07,829
understands the culture he does

1971
02:09:08,370 --> 02:09:13,320
was way, way, way over the top
and just perfect. What's in it

1972
02:09:13,350 --> 02:09:15,720
is not really what you're
looking for. I agree. No,

1973
02:09:15,720 --> 02:09:21,690
what I'm saying is, and it's
this weird thing, I'm going to

1974
02:09:21,690 --> 02:09:25,350
draw a point. Mary Ann Williams,
his whole point with atonement,

1975
02:09:25,350 --> 02:09:29,070
right. We have a spiritual
problem. Race, right? The race

1976
02:09:29,070 --> 02:09:31,350
problem is really a spiritual
problem. That's what she kept

1977
02:09:31,350 --> 02:09:33,840
harping on about, even though
she comes from it from a new

1978
02:09:33,840 --> 02:09:38,100
agey kind of point of view, but
she was saying is this spiritual

1979
02:09:38,100 --> 02:09:40,680
like no, not to put words in her
mouth like infection that we

1980
02:09:40,680 --> 02:09:47,520
have? That has to be you know,
know, purged? She comes up with

1981
02:09:47,520 --> 02:09:53,160
a $500 million plan. Everybody
on one side claps yay, yay, yay.

1982
02:09:53,160 --> 02:09:55,980
But then the other guy comes
with a 500 million I mean, it's

1983
02:09:55,980 --> 02:10:01,860
gonna be $500 billion plan.
Yeah, it was like that I'm just

1984
02:10:01,860 --> 02:10:04,890
going to show you how narrative
works. But let's get back into

1985
02:10:04,890 --> 02:10:10,350
these clips. And the second clip
from how communism was brought

1986
02:10:10,980 --> 02:10:11,670
to the sell.

1987
02:10:11,910 --> 02:10:14,760
How did the Communist Party get
started in Alabama,

1988
02:10:15,270 --> 02:10:21,300
in 1928, the communists position
in nationally was that African

1989
02:10:21,300 --> 02:10:24,810
Americans in the South have the
right to self determination,

1990
02:10:24,810 --> 02:10:28,170
meaning they have the right to
create their own nation in the

1991
02:10:28,170 --> 02:10:33,390
South. In this position that
came out of Moscow, it came from

1992
02:10:33,390 --> 02:10:38,700
other black communists around
the globe. And with that idea in

1993
02:10:38,700 --> 02:10:42,750
mind, they sent to organizers to
Alabama and they went to

1994
02:10:42,750 --> 02:10:45,450
Birmingham. And he chose
Birmingham because it was

1995
02:10:45,450 --> 02:10:50,340
probably the most industrialized
city in the south. And they went

1996
02:10:50,340 --> 02:10:52,890
there thinking they would
organize white workers and from

1997
02:10:52,890 --> 02:10:56,340
white workers, black workers
would follow. But no white works

1998
02:10:56,340 --> 02:11:00,540
have come forward. And so the
first two organizers was a guy

1999
02:11:00,540 --> 02:11:05,010
named James Julio, who was a
Sicilian worker who had migrated

2000
02:11:05,010 --> 02:11:08,850
to Alabama, and another guy
named Tom Johnson. And together,

2001
02:11:09,450 --> 02:11:13,110
they went out looking for white
workers in black workers came.

2002
02:11:13,890 --> 02:11:16,800
And black workers came in fairly
large numbers right away,

2003
02:11:17,220 --> 02:11:21,000
because for them, they had a
memory of Reconstruction in

2004
02:11:21,000 --> 02:11:24,930
memory of the Civil War. And in
that kind of collective memory,

2005
02:11:25,200 --> 02:11:27,960
they were told that one day the
Yankees would come back and

2006
02:11:27,960 --> 02:11:31,080
finish the fight. Or when they
saw these white communists, they

2007
02:11:31,080 --> 02:11:33,660
said, Oh, good, the Yankees are
here. We can't wait to join.

2008
02:11:34,080 --> 02:11:36,810
This is one of my favorite clips
from all the episodes we've done

2009
02:11:36,810 --> 02:11:42,960
that episode 43 It's so it's now
you understand why when we look

2010
02:11:42,960 --> 02:11:47,640
at Black Lives Matter, Inc. and
the Self avowed the train

2011
02:11:47,640 --> 02:11:53,220
Marxists like this is it's a
repeat of history. It's a total

2012
02:11:53,220 --> 02:11:56,310
repeat. And it's it's kind of
maddening when you think about

2013
02:11:56,310 --> 02:11:58,380
it, because this is, this is not
taught

2014
02:11:59,130 --> 02:12:02,250
very well. You're not the only
iteration of this because a lot

2015
02:12:02,250 --> 02:12:06,150
of oil with the black plant back
Black Panthers. Yep, they were

2016
02:12:06,150 --> 02:12:13,200
big, Maoist. Very big Mao was in
his Little Red Book. Yep. But I

2017
02:12:13,200 --> 02:12:18,090
won't go down that rabbit hole
on this show. But yeah, this

2018
02:12:19,200 --> 02:12:22,590
America's gonna I'm gonna just
say this. America is gonna keep

2019
02:12:22,590 --> 02:12:23,580
playing with fire.

2020
02:12:24,840 --> 02:12:30,450
And this thought process is
gonna take hold. If we don't put

2021
02:12:30,450 --> 02:12:34,620
it out the racial fire? Yes.
Well, this is this

2022
02:12:34,620 --> 02:12:38,310
is. This is the time and when
it's time to do it. That's why

2023
02:12:38,520 --> 02:12:41,880
especially with the bullcrap
doing the work, you know, white

2024
02:12:41,880 --> 02:12:46,380
fragility? I mean, people are
trying to solve this with very,

2025
02:12:46,410 --> 02:12:53,010
very either poor intentions or
just idiocy, no knowledge of

2026
02:12:53,010 --> 02:12:56,700
really what what's, what the
background is. So yeah, matches

2027
02:12:56,700 --> 02:12:59,550
the time, this is the time to
stop it and get some education

2028
02:12:59,550 --> 02:13:02,130
out there. We're just gonna keep
going through this every 20

2029
02:13:02,130 --> 02:13:02,760
years,

2030
02:13:03,060 --> 02:13:05,940
and imagining when a foreign
nation or if a foreign nation

2031
02:13:05,940 --> 02:13:08,400
steps in and said yeah, give
them what they want. Give them

2032
02:13:08,400 --> 02:13:12,630
that tangible where it's gonna
be on the path to Marxism or

2033
02:13:12,630 --> 02:13:13,650
communism, you could

2034
02:13:13,650 --> 02:13:16,500
flip that you could flip the
country to Russia in a heartbeat

2035
02:13:17,910 --> 02:13:25,140
or any Yeah, we're China or
China. I'm telling you because

2036
02:13:25,200 --> 02:13:31,650
I'm capitalism has its problems.
But they pale in comparison, and

2037
02:13:31,650 --> 02:13:36,450
that's just my personal belief.
I in a truly and we're not like

2038
02:13:36,480 --> 02:13:38,580
we don't live in a capitalist
society. Right now. We live in a

2039
02:13:38,580 --> 02:13:41,610
corporatist society or techno
technocracy or however you want

2040
02:13:41,610 --> 02:13:44,820
to put it in a true capitalist
society where you buy from

2041
02:13:44,820 --> 02:13:50,250
oneself or to everybody, you
know, have equal chance to, you

2042
02:13:50,250 --> 02:13:53,130
know, loans and funding and
those kinds of things and best

2043
02:13:53,130 --> 02:14:00,240
man wins. And that's what all
for. Not everybody gets the same

2044
02:14:00,240 --> 02:14:00,510
thing.

2045
02:14:00,540 --> 02:14:03,630
healthy competition, which is
basically capitalism, free

2046
02:14:03,630 --> 02:14:05,910
markets. The stuff we are built
on.

2047
02:14:06,660 --> 02:14:11,580
Right, but as it's called, is
called race. So there is a

2048
02:14:11,580 --> 02:14:16,020
competition within the
competition. And I would love to

2049
02:14:16,020 --> 02:14:19,230
see it more looked at like the
Olympics. All the nations coming

2050
02:14:19,230 --> 02:14:21,330
together from their different
nation, different colors,

2051
02:14:21,330 --> 02:14:25,200
creeds, religions, and they say,
okay, who's the fastest runner?

2052
02:14:25,770 --> 02:14:28,950
Who's the highest jumper? Who's
the fastest swimmer? Why can't

2053
02:14:28,950 --> 02:14:32,160
we do that economics? Why do we
have to tilt the scale?

2054
02:14:35,250 --> 02:14:37,950
Well, it doesn't behoove the
very rich people now does it?

2055
02:14:38,460 --> 02:14:40,530
Well, they get better be
careful, because that's the

2056
02:14:40,530 --> 02:14:41,100
first one.

2057
02:14:42,390 --> 02:14:46,230
Sometimes your your head winds
up in a basket. Sometimes you

2058
02:14:46,230 --> 02:14:46,770
never know what

2059
02:14:48,150 --> 02:14:53,520
he's saying. It can't be that
bad to deal with this. But okay,

2060
02:14:53,520 --> 02:14:57,870
so we that's covering the people
that stayed in the early 1900s,

2061
02:14:57,870 --> 02:15:03,030
you know, MIT to midnight on
1900. is in American south for

2062
02:15:03,030 --> 02:15:06,900
black people. The other option
was to leave the south if you

2063
02:15:06,900 --> 02:15:10,440
were able to, I mean, cuz as you
heard in the previous clips that

2064
02:15:10,440 --> 02:15:15,300
could end up in death. But if
you were able to leave, you

2065
02:15:15,570 --> 02:15:17,580
participate in the Great
Migration.

2066
02:15:17,940 --> 02:15:21,690
This map shows the black belt of
the United States. Its name

2067
02:15:21,690 --> 02:15:24,840
comes from the fertile soil
associated with the region. And

2068
02:15:24,840 --> 02:15:28,110
for most of America's history,
more than 90% of the country's

2069
02:15:28,110 --> 02:15:31,350
largest minority group have
lived here. Starting in the

2070
02:15:31,350 --> 02:15:33,990
early 20th century, nearly half
of the African American

2071
02:15:33,990 --> 02:15:36,930
population left this region to
resettle in emerging Northern

2072
02:15:36,930 --> 02:15:39,930
and Midwestern cities. It was
one of the largest internal

2073
02:15:39,930 --> 02:15:43,560
migrations in US history. And
now data indicates that a new

2074
02:15:43,560 --> 02:15:47,820
movement is taking shape. To
understand why, let's go back to

2075
02:15:47,820 --> 02:15:51,660
1865. The Emancipation
Proclamation ended slavery and

2076
02:15:51,660 --> 02:15:54,720
started a new era for colored
people in the States. Shortly

2077
02:15:54,720 --> 02:15:58,170
after the 13th 14th and 15th
amendments in franchise people

2078
02:15:58,170 --> 02:16:01,170
of color at large. For the first
time, the majority of black

2079
02:16:01,170 --> 02:16:06,030
Americans controlled their own
destinies. In the years

2080
02:16:06,030 --> 02:16:08,640
immediately following
emancipation, most freed slaves

2081
02:16:08,670 --> 02:16:11,370
chose to stay in their
communities. After all, the only

2082
02:16:11,370 --> 02:16:14,430
America they had known was the
South. It was common for the

2083
02:16:14,430 --> 02:16:16,980
descendants to work as
sharecroppers on plantations,

2084
02:16:17,280 --> 02:16:19,650
sometimes their only payment was
permission to live on the

2085
02:16:19,650 --> 02:16:22,320
property. But that wasn't the
worst aspect of the South for

2086
02:16:22,320 --> 02:16:22,860
blacks.

2087
02:16:23,760 --> 02:16:28,170
Jim Crow caste system determined
where you could eat what

2088
02:16:28,170 --> 02:16:32,760
platform you stood on when you
were catching a train. This was

2089
02:16:32,790 --> 02:16:37,230
a rigid caste system in which
any breach of the caste system

2090
02:16:37,230 --> 02:16:38,970
could literally mean your life.

2091
02:16:39,180 --> 02:16:42,390
That's author and journalist
Isabel Wilkerson. She spent 15

2092
02:16:42,390 --> 02:16:44,850
years compiling the stories of
black exodus to cities in the

2093
02:16:44,850 --> 02:16:47,880
north, Midwest and west, the
movement would come to be known

2094
02:16:47,880 --> 02:16:49,140
as the Great Migration.

2095
02:16:52,800 --> 02:16:57,420
The only problem with the great
migration was you left the

2096
02:16:57,420 --> 02:17:03,060
South, you left everything you
knew you left your land. And you

2097
02:17:03,060 --> 02:17:07,470
went to the cities where you
weren't, you weren't, weren't

2098
02:17:07,470 --> 02:17:08,640
really on, won't it?

2099
02:17:09,750 --> 02:17:12,810
No, and there was no food
because you couldn't have land

2100
02:17:12,810 --> 02:17:16,680
to make food. So yeah, there was
it was a tough journey, a tough,

2101
02:17:16,740 --> 02:17:17,790
tough destination.

2102
02:17:18,420 --> 02:17:21,330
And a lot of times, the women
were shutting the house all day.

2103
02:17:21,360 --> 02:17:23,910
I mean, it wasn't safe to come
out in the neighborhood they had

2104
02:17:23,910 --> 02:17:28,950
they were forced to live in. It
was one piece called a tenement

2105
02:17:29,220 --> 02:17:32,430
that I'll get into later on, and
one of our one of our shows to

2106
02:17:32,430 --> 02:17:41,190
come that it was a hellhole. It
was a hellhole and black

2107
02:17:41,190 --> 02:17:45,150
publications personally
participated in this propaganda

2108
02:17:46,200 --> 02:17:51,510
to draw people to the north. Now
the great migration laws up

2109
02:17:52,320 --> 02:17:58,470
almost to a tee with World War
One. The beginning the first

2110
02:17:58,470 --> 02:18:02,010
wave, because you had a lot of
white men going out to fight you

2111
02:18:02,010 --> 02:18:07,680
had to backfill those jobs. You
backfill those jobs with people

2112
02:18:07,680 --> 02:18:10,890
coming from the south. Now, I
will say this, as we heard in

2113
02:18:10,890 --> 02:18:14,850
the previous cotton clip, the
mechanically picking cotton came

2114
02:18:14,850 --> 02:18:20,250
about in 1927. So that put a lot
of black people out of a job. So

2115
02:18:20,250 --> 02:18:23,730
they had to go north. And then
you had the pressure of the you

2116
02:18:23,730 --> 02:18:27,720
know, the kk k, which was
nothing but a domestic terrorist

2117
02:18:27,720 --> 02:18:32,670
group, applying pressure to run
people north. But it's very,

2118
02:18:32,670 --> 02:18:38,460
it's very sketchy what was going
on there. And like I said, this

2119
02:18:38,460 --> 02:18:43,470
is this is not only a throwback
but this show, but this is also

2120
02:18:43,470 --> 02:18:46,110
what we're going to get into
moving forward breaking down

2121
02:18:46,110 --> 02:18:49,710
what happened in the great
migration, and this is the birth

2122
02:18:49,740 --> 02:18:52,080
of your one of your favorite
words, urban.

2123
02:18:52,680 --> 02:18:56,010
In 1915, African Americans began
to leave the black belt for

2124
02:18:56,010 --> 02:19:01,080
these new industrial centers in
1929 1.5 million African

2125
02:19:01,080 --> 02:19:05,760
Americans have resettled in new
northern metro areas. At the

2126
02:19:05,760 --> 02:19:09,000
time, Americans participation in
World War One drove demand for

2127
02:19:09,000 --> 02:19:12,540
manufacturing labor. But strict
immigration laws left northern

2128
02:19:12,540 --> 02:19:15,810
factories with a shortage of
workers. factories in the north

2129
02:19:15,810 --> 02:19:19,170
started recruiting low skilled
workers from the south. The

2130
02:19:19,170 --> 02:19:21,570
workers face discrimination in
their new homes, which

2131
02:19:21,570 --> 02:19:25,800
culminated in the red summer of
1919. Migrant blacks, whites and

2132
02:19:25,800 --> 02:19:28,590
European immigrants were all
competing for limited housing

2133
02:19:28,590 --> 02:19:32,010
and resources, which exacerbated
relationships in city centers.

2134
02:19:33,030 --> 02:19:35,640
The most prominent of these
settlements for migrating blacks

2135
02:19:35,640 --> 02:19:38,490
was in New York City, and the
art, music and theater that

2136
02:19:38,520 --> 02:19:41,100
emerged from this community
became known as the Harlem

2137
02:19:41,100 --> 02:19:44,580
Renaissance. These artistic
achievements redefined the

2138
02:19:44,580 --> 02:19:48,150
cultural image of blacks in
America. But the stock market

2139
02:19:48,150 --> 02:19:51,960
crash of 1929 ensuing Great
Depression slowed the influx

2140
02:19:51,960 --> 02:19:55,230
from the south and effectively
ended the first migration. The

2141
02:19:55,230 --> 02:19:58,320
second wave began in the 40s
when World War Two kick started

2142
02:19:58,320 --> 02:20:00,690
manufacturing again, oh
agricole. After employment in

2143
02:20:00,690 --> 02:20:04,050
the south plummeted, once again,
people living in the world South

2144
02:20:04,050 --> 02:20:07,980
began to migrate to cities.
manufacturing hubs in the West

2145
02:20:07,980 --> 02:20:11,100
were far more prominent in the
second movement, but only a

2146
02:20:11,100 --> 02:20:13,500
fraction of skilled labor
positions went to African

2147
02:20:13,500 --> 02:20:17,190
Americans. At the end of the
second migration, an estimated

2148
02:20:17,190 --> 02:20:20,490
five to 8 million blacks had
resettled outside of the South.

2149
02:20:21,180 --> 02:20:21,870
Kind of

2150
02:20:21,870 --> 02:20:25,950
interesting in the context of
how immigration or certainly

2151
02:20:25,950 --> 02:20:31,080
illegal immigration has affected
a das blacks in America. And

2152
02:20:31,080 --> 02:20:34,350
that's just a modest it's still
a modern topic. And back then I

2153
02:20:34,350 --> 02:20:37,140
was like, Well, we had really
tough rules. So Oh, guess what,

2154
02:20:37,140 --> 02:20:40,020
half the black people come up
and do it their own people?

2155
02:20:42,630 --> 02:20:46,950
Yeah, and, and the crazy thing
is, so we got to look at the

2156
02:20:46,950 --> 02:20:52,230
first wave, second wave were
both driven by global wars. That

2157
02:20:52,230 --> 02:20:56,610
was it. And a couple points. I
want to make one, the way they

2158
02:20:56,610 --> 02:21:01,710
use propaganda. So there we use
stories like Emmett Till. Emmett

2159
02:21:01,710 --> 02:21:05,220
Till was, it was a true
happening. But you got to think

2160
02:21:05,220 --> 02:21:10,560
why would the American press
pick up on this story? I mean,

2161
02:21:10,770 --> 02:21:15,900
there's no benefit to it. to air
out your dirty laundry, right?

2162
02:21:15,930 --> 02:21:19,110
Unless you want to use it to
scare black people in the South.

2163
02:21:19,140 --> 02:21:23,970
Hello. To give up their land and
move north. Now I'll give you a

2164
02:21:24,690 --> 02:21:28,110
copy or juxtapose that to a
story that happened in Chicago

2165
02:21:28,110 --> 02:21:31,290
at a beach. A black kid was
swimming on the black side of

2166
02:21:31,290 --> 02:21:34,350
the beach floating. I think he
fell asleep or whatever. It

2167
02:21:34,350 --> 02:21:38,130
ended up floating and to the
white water area. You know, they

2168
02:21:38,130 --> 02:21:39,720
stoned him to death in the
water?

2169
02:21:40,740 --> 02:21:43,410
Yeah, I think we I think you
told me this one before.

2170
02:21:43,440 --> 02:21:46,650
Yeah. I think we went over?
Well, what I'm saying is, but

2171
02:21:46,650 --> 02:21:49,950
that never made the news. Why?
Because you want to keep keep

2172
02:21:49,950 --> 02:21:52,470
the people flowing north,
because that's cheap labor.

2173
02:21:52,620 --> 02:21:57,270
cheap labor, puts pressure on
your white workers to drive down

2174
02:21:57,270 --> 02:22:03,990
wages. So we're always used as
this wedge or our, you know, a

2175
02:22:03,990 --> 02:22:10,320
mechanism. And then when you see
like now, even what black people

2176
02:22:10,320 --> 02:22:12,600
were saying, Hey, why are you
letting all those illegals

2177
02:22:12,600 --> 02:22:15,510
coming out country? They're
taking our jobs, they're keeping

2178
02:22:15,510 --> 02:22:19,980
the wages low? You had the same
thing going on with so called

2179
02:22:19,980 --> 02:22:23,430
white people, because they were
only allowed to be white when it

2180
02:22:23,430 --> 02:22:28,440
was convenient for the truly
white people, you know, to beef

2181
02:22:28,440 --> 02:22:31,440
up their ranks, as we talked
about with the gangs in New York

2182
02:22:31,440 --> 02:22:34,560
clips from the previous show. If
I Okay, yeah, we got to graft a

2183
02:22:34,560 --> 02:22:36,810
man where our numbers are low,
you know, okay, you can be

2184
02:22:36,810 --> 02:22:39,930
white, you can be white, you can
be white. And to show you that

2185
02:22:39,930 --> 02:22:47,610
this bottom deer is not only
white against black, but black

2186
02:22:47,610 --> 02:22:50,700
against black, as I laid out
with your political class, the

2187
02:22:50,700 --> 02:22:54,780
black women are using black men
now. The first wave of black

2188
02:22:54,780 --> 02:22:59,520
people that went in the 1940s
Hate it to see the black people

2189
02:22:59,520 --> 02:23:04,680
coming in the 1940s. Right.
David had calls and laws Oh, you

2190
02:23:04,680 --> 02:23:07,410
can't sit on your front porch.
Or you can't eat watermelon

2191
02:23:07,410 --> 02:23:09,750
outside and he was in your front
yard. Because there was the

2192
02:23:09,750 --> 02:23:12,930
optics. It's like, we're good
upstanding black people. You

2193
02:23:12,930 --> 02:23:18,660
can't bring those country
bumpkin ways up here. So there

2194
02:23:18,690 --> 02:23:21,240
always have to be I'm not keep
saying that. But it always has

2195
02:23:21,240 --> 02:23:25,170
to be a bottom bottom. And that
so that's like a Baltimore

2196
02:23:25,410 --> 02:23:33,360
scenario, where it's all a DOS
running the city, and they're

2197
02:23:33,360 --> 02:23:36,240
keeping the bottom right where
they want them to be.

2198
02:23:36,869 --> 02:23:40,109
Because they can't pay off the
bottom. Yeah, look at all this

2199
02:23:40,109 --> 02:23:42,269
crime. We got to do something
about it. We need more money. We

2200
02:23:42,269 --> 02:23:45,869
need more funding we need you
know, we need more programs and

2201
02:23:45,869 --> 02:23:50,759
the money never trickles down to
the people. Right. Tom, I just

2202
02:23:50,759 --> 02:23:53,429
say that it's like okay, Stan,
and south and be inoculated with

2203
02:23:53,429 --> 02:23:59,429
communism. move north and be
isolated from everything, you

2204
02:23:59,429 --> 02:24:03,389
know, because we're agricultural
people. And I'll say that. Just

2205
02:24:03,419 --> 02:24:07,199
even now, me being back in the
rural area, sunshine, fresh

2206
02:24:07,229 --> 02:24:12,149
water, fresh air. It locks up
the enemy. I can't tell you what

2207
02:24:12,149 --> 02:24:17,369
it is Adam, I cannot tell you
what it is. But just being here.

2208
02:24:18,779 --> 02:24:22,109
took me back to where I came
from. Sure. And I'm not ashamed

2209
02:24:22,109 --> 02:24:24,959
to say I'm not saying my
grandfather had an outhouse. I

2210
02:24:24,959 --> 02:24:29,549
used outhouse before. I mean,
like, this is not. People want

2211
02:24:29,549 --> 02:24:33,659
to antiquated stuff and make it
so far distant. History isn't

2212
02:24:34,140 --> 02:24:37,140
back to koonta kente. But no,
that's not the way it is.

2213
02:24:38,790 --> 02:24:42,660
It's not like I said, I've used
the outhouse before. Several

2214
02:24:42,660 --> 02:24:46,200
times. That we go to the we'll
get water.

2215
02:24:46,800 --> 02:24:49,650
You should wash your hands
before you come to the podcast,

2216
02:24:49,650 --> 02:24:50,370
that's for sure.

2217
02:24:52,380 --> 02:24:58,530
I mean, very clean, very clean,
but just saying to put that in

2218
02:24:58,530 --> 02:25:02,640
context. Isn't that crazy? We're
in 2020, and, you know, four or

2219
02:25:02,640 --> 02:25:08,730
five years old, I mean, in my
lifetime. So just to lay out lay

2220
02:25:08,730 --> 02:25:11,700
that out that those were our two
options. And then we went into

2221
02:25:11,700 --> 02:25:13,950
CDs while brought up earlier
because you always say, what is

2222
02:25:13,950 --> 02:25:17,910
the urban come from what is now
the new sending in with black

2223
02:25:17,910 --> 02:25:21,750
with urban was city was, you
know, the city centers they used

2224
02:25:21,750 --> 02:25:27,510
to call Nautilus at the time it
Funkadelic Yeah, exactly. Call

2225
02:25:27,510 --> 02:25:35,190
it CC Yeah, taco city. So you
have these things. And it goes

2226
02:25:35,190 --> 02:25:38,460
from Okay, black being
synonymous with rural

2227
02:25:38,580 --> 02:25:44,910
agriculture. Now you have it
with urban, urban projects.

2228
02:25:44,940 --> 02:25:48,150
Right, right, is when the
projects came along, and the

2229
02:25:48,150 --> 02:25:52,890
public housing and we talked
about those things, and where

2230
02:25:52,890 --> 02:25:58,350
are we at on, but there was
progress made from the 1940s to

2231
02:25:58,350 --> 02:26:02,730
the 1960s. And you don't have to
believe me, believe Thomas oil

2232
02:26:03,000 --> 02:26:05,940
discrimination and disparities
quote, The plain fact is that

2233
02:26:05,940 --> 02:26:11,880
black the black poverty rate
declined from 87% in 1940, to

2234
02:26:11,880 --> 02:26:17,460
47% in 1960. Prior to the
expansion of the welfare state

2235
02:26:17,460 --> 02:26:20,100
that began in the 1960s, under
the Johnson administration,

2236
02:26:20,430 --> 02:26:23,250
there was a far more modest
decline in the poverty rate

2237
02:26:23,250 --> 02:26:28,890
among blacks after the war on
poverty began slowly. How could

2238
02:26:28,890 --> 02:26:29,160
that?

2239
02:26:30,510 --> 02:26:34,680
Well, it could be it could be
because the things that they

2240
02:26:34,680 --> 02:26:38,010
thought was going to help did
not help and in many cases made

2241
02:26:38,010 --> 02:26:43,200
things much worse. One would be
the welfare state, which provide

2242
02:26:43,200 --> 02:26:46,050
and the other would be things
like minimum wages, which just

2243
02:26:46,050 --> 02:26:49,500
price people out of their jobs.
It's amazing how that simple

2244
02:26:49,500 --> 02:26:52,080
concept never seems to get
through to so many people.

2245
02:26:53,730 --> 02:26:57,540
All right, crime. And in this
case, you're writing not only

2246
02:26:57,540 --> 02:26:59,790
about African Americans, but
about low income people

2247
02:26:59,790 --> 02:27:02,880
generally, in the United States
murder rates, rates of infection

2248
02:27:02,880 --> 02:27:05,760
among with venereal diseases and
rates of teenage pregnancies

2249
02:27:05,760 --> 02:27:09,180
were among the social
pathologies, who steep declines,

2250
02:27:09,240 --> 02:27:14,940
declines were suddenly reversed
in the 1960s. No, there was

2251
02:27:14,940 --> 02:27:19,260
rapid violence and other Social
Pathology is common among low

2252
02:27:19,260 --> 02:27:22,500
income people in the first half
of the 20th century, when they

2253
02:27:22,500 --> 02:27:26,550
were more deprived, as in the
second half, when the welfare

2254
02:27:26,550 --> 02:27:30,420
state had made them better off
in material terms, close quote.

2255
02:27:30,720 --> 02:27:37,200
Again. It's not the intention of
anybody enacting the welfare

2256
02:27:37,200 --> 02:27:42,600
state to cause increases in
violence. But it happened.

2257
02:27:43,350 --> 02:27:47,820
This is where the lazy Yeah,
really exactly happened. This is

2258
02:27:47,820 --> 02:27:53,130
exactly where where's the
phrase? I'm from the government

2259
02:27:53,130 --> 02:27:56,640
I'm here to help comes from and
a war on poverty, where to

2260
02:27:56,640 --> 02:28:02,190
create one kind of poverty, war
on drugs. War on Terror,

2261
02:28:02,190 --> 02:28:03,030
anybody?

2262
02:28:04,440 --> 02:28:08,130
What was the trade off for that
help? Yeah.

2263
02:28:09,390 --> 02:28:14,760
But also talk, like to point out
that and this is, this is always

2264
02:28:14,760 --> 02:28:20,280
seen as a Republican, Grand Old
Party, conserve conservative,

2265
02:28:20,280 --> 02:28:25,710
right wing, crazy ass talking
point. But I can tell you from

2266
02:28:25,710 --> 02:28:29,340
listening to this, and the
learning, minimum wage is

2267
02:28:29,340 --> 02:28:30,570
actually racist.

2268
02:28:34,620 --> 02:28:41,160
Here's the problem with minimum
wage. You keep less entry

2269
02:28:41,160 --> 02:28:45,780
workers from working. And what I
mean by entry workers is you

2270
02:28:45,780 --> 02:28:51,780
build your work ethic. At
1314 15 years old. I started

2271
02:28:51,780 --> 02:28:56,010
working 14. I mean, I pestered
my mom and dad about getting the

2272
02:28:56,010 --> 02:29:01,830
work workers permit. Started
working at 1415 years old. When

2273
02:29:01,830 --> 02:29:06,060
you get in the habit of work,
getting a paycheck, spending

2274
02:29:06,060 --> 02:29:08,970
your money, messing up your
money blowing your money,

2275
02:29:08,970 --> 02:29:09,870
realizing you know,

2276
02:29:10,260 --> 02:29:11,850
you learned some things along
the way.

2277
02:29:12,540 --> 02:29:17,040
Right. So by the time you get
20, you know, you got it figured

2278
02:29:17,040 --> 02:29:21,540
out. Hopefully you know that I
need to spend less money than

2279
02:29:21,540 --> 02:29:24,480
I'll make or I'll end up a slave
debt slave nonetheless. But

2280
02:29:25,200 --> 02:29:29,460
nonetheless, what a slave it is.
When you have kids on the

2281
02:29:29,460 --> 02:29:35,340
sideline, thanks 16 1718 years
old, I've never held a job.

2282
02:29:35,820 --> 02:29:40,080
Because the guy's looking well,
I had to pay $8 An hour Well, I

2283
02:29:40,080 --> 02:29:44,010
could pay them $4 hour tour of
them. I can only hire one of

2284
02:29:44,010 --> 02:29:48,360
them. And you have all these
other. This is the problem with

2285
02:29:48,360 --> 02:29:52,050
minimum wage. And the thing is,
is when you let more people in

2286
02:29:52,050 --> 02:29:55,770
the workforce is going to create
competition and you know the

2287
02:29:55,770 --> 02:30:00,930
competition is going to drive up
the wages that Truly, like, and

2288
02:30:00,930 --> 02:30:05,070
I don't want to sound like, you
know, like I kind of economists,

2289
02:30:05,280 --> 02:30:08,490
you know, that kind of thing,
but it just makes sense that

2290
02:30:08,490 --> 02:30:13,320
way. But he said, I don't think
they did it on purpose, or did

2291
02:30:13,320 --> 02:30:13,770
they? Oh,

2292
02:30:13,770 --> 02:30:18,330
come on, gee, who's big on
minimum wage? Bernie Sanders.

2293
02:30:19,080 --> 02:30:22,380
Number one, the minimum wage
guy, he knows how it works. You

2294
02:30:22,380 --> 02:30:24,150
got to almost think he's evil.

2295
02:30:24,780 --> 02:30:27,360
Right? And then they bring up
the welfare state and part of

2296
02:30:27,360 --> 02:30:30,750
the welfare state was no man in
the house. And this is why I

2297
02:30:30,750 --> 02:30:35,280
have to give you and John
credit. These next three clips

2298
02:30:35,550 --> 02:30:38,820
were discussed. Oh, no agenda
way before there was a mold

2299
02:30:38,820 --> 02:30:42,720
fact. And I got people think you
come here, Adam, like, Oh, he's

2300
02:30:42,720 --> 02:30:47,100
getting out? No, you are all
around this thing. My you know,

2301
02:30:47,100 --> 02:30:53,130
at the edges like, No man house
and, you know, das, and what it

2302
02:30:53,130 --> 02:30:56,640
was. It wasn't I was

2303
02:30:56,640 --> 02:31:01,650
a diamond in the rough. I needed
to be lucky. And shaped into the

2304
02:31:01,650 --> 02:31:03,480
Juillet. I'm becoming

2305
02:31:03,840 --> 02:31:06,720
you're willing to do the work.
But there was no work available.

2306
02:31:07,830 --> 02:31:11,370
I didn't know what plateau to
work on. Yeah, exactly. Exactly.

2307
02:31:11,370 --> 02:31:16,200
I had no context. No one giving
me anything in the in the quote

2308
02:31:16,200 --> 02:31:19,380
unquote, mainstream media or
anything that that I could look

2309
02:31:19,380 --> 02:31:22,890
at until until you came along?
Absolutely. There's just wasn't

2310
02:31:22,890 --> 02:31:23,370
there.

2311
02:31:23,910 --> 02:31:26,940
But you were you were there.
Because I mean, if you want to

2312
02:31:26,940 --> 02:31:28,080
get into 27,

2313
02:31:28,950 --> 02:31:36,330
before we moved into fruit, I
go, the Welfare Department came

2314
02:31:36,330 --> 02:31:44,220
to our home. They talk with my
mother about moving into the

2315
02:31:44,220 --> 02:31:50,340
housing project. But the
stipulation was that my father

2316
02:31:50,730 --> 02:31:57,870
could not be with us. They would
put us into the housing project,

2317
02:31:58,020 --> 02:32:01,860
only if he left the

2318
02:32:02,160 --> 02:32:06,930
state. Yeah, people really don't
know this. This is still such an

2319
02:32:06,960 --> 02:32:10,830
unknown fact. And I was alive
when there's a taking place.

2320
02:32:11,400 --> 02:32:13,980
Which you were covering this
because like I said, this comes

2321
02:32:13,980 --> 02:32:16,080
from my knowledge. And I know
the clips.

2322
02:32:16,080 --> 02:32:19,260
Yeah, I hear you. And we will
probably go, we're probably

2323
02:32:19,260 --> 02:32:22,260
going like, wow, how about that?
That's weird. What's up with

2324
02:32:22,260 --> 02:32:24,690
that? No one ever talks about
this? And of course, I never

2325
02:32:24,690 --> 02:32:26,370
knew the whole background to it.
But yeah.

2326
02:32:28,020 --> 02:32:32,820
Now you asked, was it done? Was
it done on purpose? Or was it

2327
02:32:32,850 --> 02:32:36,510
No, it just all well, we screwed
that one up. And if you did

2328
02:32:36,510 --> 02:32:41,040
screw it up. If it Okay, save
you it was a truly a mistake.

2329
02:32:41,730 --> 02:32:47,700
Now, the whole stop. It can't be
a mistake. They had they had

2330
02:32:48,270 --> 02:32:52,290
armed guards or overt or, you
know, tattletale brown shirts

2331
02:32:52,290 --> 02:32:55,320
running around to make sure that
this wasn't taking place no man

2332
02:32:55,320 --> 02:32:58,740
in the house. That's a that's a
program. That's not a mistake.

2333
02:32:59,220 --> 02:33:01,560
That's I'm just gonna give him
the benefit of the doubt. I

2334
02:33:01,560 --> 02:33:04,860
mean, because that's what I do.
If it was a mistake, and this

2335
02:33:04,860 --> 02:33:09,240
was happening in the
1940s 50s 60s. Why haven't we

2336
02:33:09,240 --> 02:33:12,690
fixed that? Why haven't we put
the energy to say, hold on? How

2337
02:33:12,690 --> 02:33:16,380
do we get the men back in the
house, you know, black families,

2338
02:33:16,380 --> 02:33:18,660
you get a double tax credit,

2339
02:33:20,070 --> 02:33:21,900
or anything, there's a whole
bunch of ways to do it. Of

2340
02:33:21,900 --> 02:33:23,640
course, you can stimulate that
easily.

2341
02:33:24,570 --> 02:33:29,370
But that's not what they did.
What they did was and then when

2342
02:33:29,370 --> 02:33:32,730
DNA showed Okay, let's ramp up
the family court. And let's,

2343
02:33:33,000 --> 02:33:35,340
let's have Let's have a fight
over that. You know, the man's

2344
02:33:35,340 --> 02:33:35,730
check.

2345
02:33:35,730 --> 02:33:38,100
Yeah, let's do it on theory,
Springer, let's make it into a

2346
02:33:38,100 --> 02:33:39,810
circus. Omari,

2347
02:33:39,810 --> 02:33:42,960
you know, talked about that
before where it's just nothing

2348
02:33:42,960 --> 02:33:48,780
but a that's really a game show.
Yeah. And then it's no sweat off

2349
02:33:48,780 --> 02:33:53,490
the off of the government's
brow, because you I think like

2350
02:33:53,490 --> 02:33:56,250
this is if

2351
02:33:57,810 --> 02:34:02,460
he is the father, he has to pay
for it. If he doesn't pay for

2352
02:34:02,460 --> 02:34:07,470
it. He goes to jail. If he goes
to jail, that's free labor for

2353
02:34:07,470 --> 02:34:10,830
us. And then guess what, his
kids are probably going to be

2354
02:34:10,830 --> 02:34:14,970
criminals too. And that's two or
three more future workers in our

2355
02:34:15,270 --> 02:34:17,730
industrial complex, industrial
prison complex.

2356
02:34:20,370 --> 02:34:25,200
Yeah, when you say it like that
sounds pretty sick. Doesn't

2357
02:34:25,410 --> 02:34:27,210
doesn't sound too good, does it?

2358
02:34:28,260 --> 02:34:31,860
Um, to say and they I haven't
seen any resolution to say, hey,

2359
02:34:31,860 --> 02:34:36,150
how do we get those? How do we
get those man back in the house?

2360
02:34:37,170 --> 02:34:41,760
None of that is more it's more
of the same thing. Well, let's

2361
02:34:41,760 --> 02:34:44,970
get more into that. No man in
the house prom no agenda.

2362
02:34:45,480 --> 02:34:49,410
The welfare department had a
rule that no able bodied man

2363
02:34:49,920 --> 02:34:53,310
could be in the house if a woman
received aid for dependent

2364
02:34:53,310 --> 02:34:58,410
children. As a man lost his job.
He's looking for work. He still

2365
02:34:58,410 --> 02:35:03,150
had to leave the home. And there
was even a night staff of men

2366
02:35:03,180 --> 02:35:06,450
who worked for the welfare
department whose job was to go

2367
02:35:06,450 --> 02:35:10,170
to the homes of the welfare
recipients. And they searched to

2368
02:35:10,170 --> 02:35:11,490
find if there was a man. And

2369
02:35:13,050 --> 02:35:17,310
isn't that crazy? If people
really knew this, which is so

2370
02:35:17,310 --> 02:35:20,370
easy to find me is not that long
ago.

2371
02:35:21,210 --> 02:35:25,050
And just to give her historic
context of this, I live with my

2372
02:35:25,050 --> 02:35:27,660
grandma told no, I've told the
story before but just the short

2373
02:35:27,660 --> 02:35:31,830
version, I live with them, they
lived in low income apartment

2374
02:35:32,040 --> 02:35:37,380
with a lot of wear for single
mothers. And when the warefare

2375
02:35:37,380 --> 02:35:40,980
people will come this is not the
80s This had to be 8485. Yeah,

2376
02:35:41,400 --> 02:35:45,870
he was the are the man running
out? Yeah. So this is not

2377
02:35:45,870 --> 02:35:52,650
19 4050s or 60s, these things
are still going on in 1980s. So

2378
02:35:52,650 --> 02:35:57,090
it's not it's not. And we could
talk about how all what we

2379
02:35:57,090 --> 02:36:01,350
talked about in previously feeds
into this. This is nothing, this

2380
02:36:01,350 --> 02:36:06,060
is nothing new. And it's nothing
old, either. I mean, what does

2381
02:36:06,060 --> 02:36:11,910
he mean? What is nothing new?
Because it existed for so long.

2382
02:36:12,240 --> 02:36:16,590
And it's nothing Oh, because it
existed for so long. If I made

2383
02:36:16,590 --> 02:36:20,310
myself clear. Great, well, it's

2384
02:36:20,310 --> 02:36:25,890
just, it's not exposed. There's
no incentive for anyone is

2385
02:36:25,890 --> 02:36:29,160
charged to expose these. I mean,
because it's so easy to take

2386
02:36:29,160 --> 02:36:33,960
that up until 1980s. To the
entire baby mama culture,

2387
02:36:34,320 --> 02:36:41,340
everything we witnessed now, the
end result being 75% of children

2388
02:36:41,340 --> 02:36:44,400
growing up with no father in the
house. And that's, of course,

2389
02:36:44,400 --> 02:36:49,020
not just black. Now. It's it's
all colors of the rainbow. It's

2390
02:36:49,020 --> 02:36:51,270
created a very destructive
culture.

2391
02:36:52,560 --> 02:36:55,170
And to speak of things that we
haven't spoke, we spoke on the

2392
02:36:55,170 --> 02:36:57,930
crack epidemic, which that
plucked men out of the house.

2393
02:36:58,620 --> 02:37:03,480
And as a tremendously high rate.
Before that you had Vietnam,

2394
02:37:04,020 --> 02:37:07,530
which disproportionately
impacted black men, pluck them

2395
02:37:07,530 --> 02:37:10,770
out of the household, and then
it's them back home. And that

2396
02:37:10,770 --> 02:37:14,970
draft Yeah, with drafts, which
send them back home with alcohol

2397
02:37:15,000 --> 02:37:19,920
or alcoholism or terror, or
heroin. Yeah. Or dealing with

2398
02:37:19,920 --> 02:37:27,810
just ill effects a war itself.
Yeah. Which, you know, these are

2399
02:37:27,810 --> 02:37:30,780
all things we've disguised. I
mean, we have, I can say, we

2400
02:37:30,780 --> 02:37:34,170
haven't even scratched the
surface of the surface on the

2401
02:37:34,170 --> 02:37:34,620
bottom.

2402
02:37:35,460 --> 02:37:38,490
So again, I'll remind everybody
who's made it up to this point,

2403
02:37:38,970 --> 02:37:42,810
what's being discussed on the
street in the media is, well,

2404
02:37:42,840 --> 02:37:45,510
you just hate that person
because of the color of his

2405
02:37:45,510 --> 02:37:49,590
skin. And these problems are
because you you are bad white

2406
02:37:49,590 --> 02:37:54,480
person, or you're an ungrateful
this or that it's really is so

2407
02:37:54,480 --> 02:37:58,800
unrelated to the core issue that
it's just a cover up.

2408
02:38:01,140 --> 02:38:04,740
Just the cover up and you end
the people who are supposed to

2409
02:38:04,740 --> 02:38:09,030
be voicing it, do it so
abrasively that it is a non

2410
02:38:09,030 --> 02:38:13,590
starter, which we always on the
show we try to defuse avoid non

2411
02:38:13,590 --> 02:38:17,010
starters, because we want to
have a conversation. We want

2412
02:38:17,010 --> 02:38:21,210
people to go to the table. And
you know, and work it out. But I

2413
02:38:21,210 --> 02:38:25,530
guess we could wrap up with the
final. No agenda, no man clip.

2414
02:38:25,890 --> 02:38:30,480
I remember vividly, my mother
telling us if White people come

2415
02:38:30,480 --> 02:38:34,350
to the house and asked us
questions, tell them that your

2416
02:38:34,350 --> 02:38:38,250
father is not here. Tell them
that your father has never been

2417
02:38:38,250 --> 02:38:41,250
here. You've not seen your
father. I trusted him. I knew

2418
02:38:41,250 --> 02:38:45,090
that there was a reason that we
had to do this trade. And I

2419
02:38:45,090 --> 02:38:47,850
participated in this charade. I
sat there and looked those

2420
02:38:47,850 --> 02:38:53,520
people in the eye and told them
with pure earnestness. No, I

2421
02:38:53,520 --> 02:38:56,910
have not seen my father and no,
my dad, he does not live here.

2422
02:38:57,600 --> 02:39:00,570
And, but I knew that I was
lying. And that made me wonder

2423
02:39:00,570 --> 02:39:04,950
Who are these people and how
they have the power to make my

2424
02:39:04,950 --> 02:39:05,610
mother lie.

2425
02:39:12,090 --> 02:39:24,510
We're giving you money. We want
to be able to control you. We're

2426
02:39:24,510 --> 02:39:31,770
giving you money. So we have the
right to make stipulations as to

2427
02:39:31,770 --> 02:39:37,440
how you use it and what you use
it for. Yeah,

2428
02:39:37,890 --> 02:39:40,440
exactly. That's how you do it.

2429
02:39:42,240 --> 02:39:47,310
And I say to people all the
time, it starts with this. It's

2430
02:39:47,340 --> 02:39:52,470
starts with those. How do you
think UBI is gonna play out?

2431
02:39:52,619 --> 02:40:00,269
It's gonna start with you. Know,
we're giving you money. Boy, No,

2432
02:40:00,479 --> 02:40:02,879
we're giving you money, then
this is what you're gonna do.

2433
02:40:02,909 --> 02:40:04,349
This is how we control you.

2434
02:40:04,410 --> 02:40:10,290
Yeah. Take the shot, go here,
don't go there. Don't move with

2435
02:40:10,290 --> 02:40:10,500
these.

2436
02:40:11,640 --> 02:40:15,060
These times. Well, that's that's
always the control. Absolutely.

2437
02:40:15,390 --> 02:40:17,130
You give people money, you got
control.

2438
02:40:18,449 --> 02:40:21,479
And that's the importance of our
conversation that we have each

2439
02:40:21,479 --> 02:40:27,479
week. And we follow the model
laid out to us. But yeah, that

2440
02:40:27,480 --> 02:40:30,930
was laid out by the one and only
Malcolm X. Here he is listen

2441
02:40:30,930 --> 02:40:31,650
carefully,

2442
02:40:31,950 --> 02:40:35,220
the white man and the black man
have to be able to sit down at

2443
02:40:35,220 --> 02:40:38,280
the same table, the white man
has to feel free to speak his

2444
02:40:38,280 --> 02:40:40,920
mind without hurting the
feelings of that negro. And the

2445
02:40:40,920 --> 02:40:43,980
so called Negro has to feel free
to speak his mind without

2446
02:40:43,980 --> 02:40:46,590
hurting the feelings of the
white man, then they can bring

2447
02:40:46,590 --> 02:40:49,230
the issues that are under the
rug out on top of the table and

2448
02:40:49,230 --> 02:40:51,750
take an intelligent approach to
get the problem solved. That's

2449
02:40:51,750 --> 02:40:53,280
the only way we'll ever do it.

2450
02:40:55,410 --> 02:40:59,250
In that work has started here it
started 50 episodes ago and

2451
02:40:59,250 --> 02:41:02,730
hopefully we inspire many more
to do that and I do want to take

2452
02:41:02,730 --> 02:41:05,640
the opportunity here to thank
the rest of our producers for

2453
02:41:05,640 --> 02:41:10,950
episode number 50 Our big
anniversary show and we're just

2454
02:41:10,950 --> 02:41:13,290
for brevity we're going to do
you want most of these are one

2455
02:41:13,290 --> 02:41:17,340
liners anyway under under 50
Just we can get through to the

2456
02:41:17,340 --> 02:41:20,370
end of the show keep it within
within some length but thank you

2457
02:41:20,370 --> 02:41:27,480
all very much for supporting us
and that thanks goes to Computer

2458
02:41:27,480 --> 02:41:33,330
Solutions and Services $49 now
says show club donation so that

2459
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probably came in on the last
champion

2460
02:41:35,220 --> 02:41:39,210
it came in right at the end of
the cut off last show so All

2461
02:41:39,210 --> 02:41:40,110
right, he's a member

2462
02:41:40,140 --> 02:41:43,260
Okay, so definitely becomes a
member and thank you very much

2463
02:41:43,260 --> 02:41:50,580
for that wanted to WUSA we'll
head to that one. Tony Shin toon

2464
02:41:50,580 --> 02:41:55,380
guru says mod Adam, you guys
rock. Thank you with 4750 46

2465
02:41:55,920 --> 02:42:02,340
from Clinton way l way to pass
Adam. Well, two way to pass.

2466
02:42:02,820 --> 02:42:06,750
Pass Adam to blunt for pleading
blood of Jay Oh my goodness.

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Translated Well, what the hell
am I reading here? I have no

2468
02:42:10,170 --> 02:42:11,520
idea what's going on here

2469
02:42:11,550 --> 02:42:14,100
way ale? I don't know.

2470
02:42:14,610 --> 02:42:17,790
It doesn't matter. We like it.
We read it for you and thank you

2471
02:42:17,790 --> 02:42:22,530
for your support producing the
episode same goes to Juho mommy

2472
02:42:22,530 --> 02:42:26,820
with 4588 Adrian workman says
greetings to both of you

2473
02:42:26,820 --> 02:42:31,200
beautiful souls. Most sincerely
thank you for dive after dive do

2474
02:42:31,200 --> 02:42:34,590
you take all the listeners into
I'm not sure how you can blow my

2475
02:42:34,590 --> 02:42:39,270
mind. So hard. So continuously
and so consistently, however you

2476
02:42:39,270 --> 02:42:43,650
do it. And we really he wants
some input on how you conjured

2477
02:42:43,650 --> 02:42:46,590
the magic. Well, that's that's a
whole nother story and we're

2478
02:42:46,590 --> 02:42:50,700
going to keep this one short.
But Adrian Thank you 4233 4033

2479
02:42:50,700 --> 02:42:54,570
From Fernando la de los Reyes.
Mo my dad wants to give me a

2480
02:42:54,570 --> 02:42:57,690
40th birthday shout out Happy
Birthday Fernando doing the work

2481
02:42:57,690 --> 02:43:00,960
Fernando senior that means
always give me a biscuit on my

2482
02:43:00,960 --> 02:43:04,680
birthday. Get yourself a biscuit
on your birthday a chef Elvis

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Rosenberg 3333 magic numbers
lining up and says great work on

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02:43:08,880 --> 02:43:13,170
Hotep Jesus thank you very much
appreciate Amanda Hedrick 33 All

2485
02:43:13,170 --> 02:43:15,930
other podcast listening has
stopped since discovering vo

2486
02:43:15,930 --> 02:43:18,900
facts with Adam curry started
from the beginning. I'm already

2487
02:43:18,900 --> 02:43:22,050
at episode 21 The amount of
value have gotten from this

2488
02:43:22,050 --> 02:43:25,110
podcast is immeasurable. But
here's a little bit until next

2489
02:43:25,110 --> 02:43:28,470
time that I donate Thank you
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2490
02:43:28,470 --> 02:43:32,550
research and education she says
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50th Episode excellent work guys

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WUSA shows here. $20 Catching up
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2493
02:43:46,170 --> 02:43:50,550
for value for us. Rohan truly Oh
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02:43:50,550 --> 02:43:56,520
20 Rhett $20 Love your show man.
Curtis Thomas two donations in a

2495
02:43:56,520 --> 02:44:00,210
row. Thanks, Professor Mo. I'm
working my way back towards all

2496
02:44:00,210 --> 02:44:03,120
the lessons this is really high
quality work you're putting out

2497
02:44:03,120 --> 02:44:09,480
that's $19.80 and then comes in
with $12.34 with no note and

2498
02:44:09,480 --> 02:44:11,790
what does that total How does
does that total something I

2499
02:44:11,790 --> 02:44:19,410
should be aware of? See, I don't
know it's all good. Jason camp

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$10 Just start listening to the
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2501
02:44:22,860 --> 02:44:25,740
get caught up on episodes in
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02:44:25,920 --> 02:44:28,560
You guys are the only glimmer of
hope and sanity for those of us

2503
02:44:28,560 --> 02:44:30,960
who refuse to become just
another sheep in the flock. Well

2504
02:44:30,960 --> 02:44:34,740
you're not keep up the good
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From Courtland Richardson shows
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Matthew liberatory of $5 as
you're changing the world, one

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02:44:55,320 --> 02:44:58,050
listener at a time. Thank you.
We appreciate that. And he has

2510
02:44:58,050 --> 02:45:01,380
more Curtis Thomas, who was It's
all over the map. Hey, love the

2511
02:45:01,380 --> 02:45:03,810
show totally lost for words.
Thank you both for your

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02:45:03,810 --> 02:45:07,200
commitment and energy, much love
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02:45:07,200 --> 02:45:10,050
sent two of those in along with
the previous two. So they've

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02:45:10,050 --> 02:45:15,090
just been racking up the SAS for
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for 11 from Terry Keller, and
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Gresik was $2.50. And that
concludes all of the donations

2517
02:45:23,190 --> 02:45:26,340
for Moe facts with Adam curry
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2518
02:45:27,180 --> 02:45:29,040
Even though we didn't really
promote it up front, everybody

2519
02:45:29,040 --> 02:45:31,740
knew this was going to be a
fantastic celebratory episode.

2520
02:45:31,890 --> 02:45:34,290
And I think this is a good one
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2521
02:45:34,290 --> 02:45:37,230
people who are coming in. So
when it comes to time, talent

2522
02:45:37,230 --> 02:45:39,900
and treasure, you gotta go out
and hit people in the mouth and

2523
02:45:39,930 --> 02:45:42,630
give them this episode if they
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02:45:42,630 --> 02:45:45,360
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2525
02:45:45,360 --> 02:45:49,590
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02:45:54,540 --> 02:45:59,400
us variety of methods Moe Fu N d
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2528
02:45:59,400 --> 02:46:02,850
producing episode 50 of Mo facts
with Adam curry.

2529
02:46:04,860 --> 02:46:10,440
As you just heard from Thomas
Sowell or 1940 to 1960, black

2530
02:46:10,440 --> 02:46:19,170
people were making huge strides
in progress. With that said, we

2531
02:46:19,170 --> 02:46:24,390
saw the no man the house, the
welfare system come about

2532
02:46:24,390 --> 02:46:29,010
welfare state, excuse me come
about. So the media had to get

2533
02:46:29,010 --> 02:46:34,170
in on an act and we discussed
for episode 12. And this is the

2534
02:46:34,170 --> 02:46:36,900
media MLK and the civil rights
movement one.

2535
02:46:39,810 --> 02:46:44,010
As a story, the Civil Rights
Movement had it all. Good versus

2536
02:46:44,640 --> 02:46:49,290
drama, social upheaval. But at
first America's major media

2537
02:46:49,320 --> 02:46:51,600
ignored it, especially in the
South.

2538
02:46:51,840 --> 02:46:57,090
It was our responsibility to
find a way to dramatize the

2539
02:46:57,090 --> 02:46:57,540
issue

2540
02:46:57,930 --> 02:47:00,690
was Congressman John Lewis says
that the movements leaders

2541
02:47:00,690 --> 02:47:05,010
realized to bring change, they
needed to reach white Americans.

2542
02:47:05,280 --> 02:47:06,270
How did you do that?

2543
02:47:06,449 --> 02:47:12,269
As a movement. We literally put
our bodies on the line,

2544
02:47:12,540 --> 02:47:14,970
Jennifer woods on the Civil
Rights coverage.

2545
02:47:15,029 --> 02:47:19,139
Hey, klibanoff co wrote the race
beat a book about the media and

2546
02:47:19,139 --> 02:47:19,829
the movement.

2547
02:47:19,980 --> 02:47:23,730
Well, race was a big story in
the south beginning in the 40s

2548
02:47:23,730 --> 02:47:26,250
and 50s. It's just that no one
knew about it.

2549
02:47:26,609 --> 02:47:31,319
Finally, by 1957 Major northern
newspapers discover the drama

2550
02:47:31,349 --> 02:47:34,529
and the story. How do you feel
about integrated passengers that

2551
02:47:34,529 --> 02:47:38,069
television networks followed,
even major southern media paid

2552
02:47:38,069 --> 02:47:40,109
attention to the open hatred,

2553
02:47:40,320 --> 02:47:43,770
you got to kink of white and a
black set and the violent

2554
02:47:43,770 --> 02:47:44,370
response

2555
02:47:44,370 --> 02:47:45,660
to peaceful protests?

2556
02:47:46,110 --> 02:47:50,400
If you're gonna beat us, beat us
in the light of day, beat us

2557
02:47:50,400 --> 02:47:51,510
where the cameras on

2558
02:47:51,779 --> 02:47:57,149
on gov. This was Selma, Alabama,
1960 Pa. Among the bloodied John

2559
02:47:57,149 --> 02:47:57,749
Lewis,

2560
02:47:58,080 --> 02:48:02,610
American people could not stand
it to see young children. And

2561
02:48:02,610 --> 02:48:07,140
all women been knocked down by
fire hoses and chased by police

2562
02:48:07,140 --> 02:48:07,590
stole.

2563
02:48:08,130 --> 02:48:12,270
Yeah, it was a golden era man,
once we got it on TV. Oh,

2564
02:48:13,080 --> 02:48:16,260
was it you heard me say? So they
had a dramatizing? That's right

2565
02:48:16,260 --> 02:48:20,730
now, what was going on behind
the scenes? A lot of black

2566
02:48:20,730 --> 02:48:24,420
people dislike now and how they
try to paint us as a monolith. A

2567
02:48:24,420 --> 02:48:28,140
lot of black people notice time
didn't want integration. They

2568
02:48:28,140 --> 02:48:31,650
want to separate with equal, but
let us have our own community.

2569
02:48:31,800 --> 02:48:34,590
Let us have our own schools, you
know, give us the proper

2570
02:48:34,590 --> 02:48:37,050
funding, it was more of a
governmental issue. It's not

2571
02:48:37,050 --> 02:48:39,450
like I want to live on the same
block as you I just want to make

2572
02:48:39,450 --> 02:48:41,340
sure about paying

2573
02:48:41,820 --> 02:48:45,210
services, you get the same
services as everybody else, same

2574
02:48:45,210 --> 02:48:45,690
level.

2575
02:48:46,410 --> 02:48:49,500
And it wasn't even commercial.
It was more with the government

2576
02:48:49,500 --> 02:48:49,920
service.

2577
02:48:49,920 --> 02:48:54,450
Yes, school health care
everything. Yeah, a little

2578
02:48:54,450 --> 02:48:56,760
overboard on the health care
with the Planned Parenthood

2579
02:48:56,760 --> 02:48:58,860
stuff. But you know, it came
from a good heart Mo.

2580
02:49:02,670 --> 02:49:08,520
But that was the thing is that I
honestly believe now, I will say

2581
02:49:08,520 --> 02:49:12,360
a lot of those leaders are
probably naive. And thought, oh,

2582
02:49:12,360 --> 02:49:16,440
we have the integration thing.
That's a good compromise. But

2583
02:49:16,440 --> 02:49:20,100
when you innocuous I'm not
pushing for segregation in

2584
02:49:20,100 --> 02:49:24,690
itself. But I'm not pushing for
force integration either. Which

2585
02:49:24,690 --> 02:49:29,550
I think is a very bad idea when
you take people and just smash

2586
02:49:29,550 --> 02:49:32,010
them together and like y'all
deal with it. I mean, the

2587
02:49:32,010 --> 02:49:34,590
government says, you know, we're
gonna put that and the reason

2588
02:49:34,590 --> 02:49:39,000
why I say this is this. I get a
lot of personal, you know,

2589
02:49:40,590 --> 02:49:46,200
reflection for me. My dad was
moved and his senior year to

2590
02:49:46,200 --> 02:49:51,510
integrate school. about Haiti.
He was bused. Well, the top town

2591
02:49:51,510 --> 02:49:52,260
was smart enough that

2592
02:49:52,860 --> 02:49:56,580
there's no bus. Okay, can walk.
Walk? Yeah,

2593
02:49:56,700 --> 02:49:59,970
but it was like, No, you can't
go to the school. The school

2594
02:50:00,000 --> 02:50:02,580
that you went to for your last
elaborate 12 years. So

2595
02:50:02,580 --> 02:50:05,940
in that context, how is
important? How important is the

2596
02:50:05,940 --> 02:50:10,530
President's current president's
school choice initiative areas

2597
02:50:10,530 --> 02:50:15,030
that hitting home? Is that
making a impact? Yes. Because it

2598
02:50:15,030 --> 02:50:17,640
gives you the power, what gives
parents the power to choose

2599
02:50:17,640 --> 02:50:19,680
where you spend the money and
where you make the school

2600
02:50:19,680 --> 02:50:21,300
better. Right. Right. And

2601
02:50:21,300 --> 02:50:25,770
along with integration came
social promotion. Where is my

2602
02:50:25,770 --> 02:50:28,320
dad would tell me if you were 13
years old, on the third grade,

2603
02:50:28,320 --> 02:50:30,030
if you couldn't read on the
third grade level, we weren't

2604
02:50:30,030 --> 02:50:32,400
going to where we black
teachers, right? Whereas when

2605
02:50:32,400 --> 02:50:35,460
you went over to, you know,
integrated school there was

2606
02:50:35,460 --> 02:50:35,730
like,

2607
02:50:35,910 --> 02:50:39,930
Ah, well, we'll help them out a
little let them slide. We again,

2608
02:50:39,930 --> 02:50:42,180
if you're doing you're damned if
you don't want to be too hard,

2609
02:50:42,180 --> 02:50:45,810
because if you keep family black
kids out, you're racist, you

2610
02:50:45,810 --> 02:50:48,450
know? And then if you don't, if
you do pass them along, they

2611
02:50:48,450 --> 02:50:49,770
can't recall your racist.

2612
02:50:51,210 --> 02:50:53,580
Can't win. Yeah. So like the

2613
02:50:53,580 --> 02:50:56,070
thing that will bring you the
less amount of grief, it's just

2614
02:50:56,070 --> 02:50:58,290
like, pass them on, pass them
on, pass them on path

2615
02:50:58,289 --> 02:51:02,549
of least resistance. Yep.
Exactly. And it's destructive.

2616
02:51:02,579 --> 02:51:05,519
It's so destructive. And and
people don't see it. This has

2617
02:51:05,519 --> 02:51:09,179
been going on so long. No wonder
people are having such trouble

2618
02:51:09,179 --> 02:51:12,329
with this. They think they've
been doing all these good

2619
02:51:12,329 --> 02:51:16,559
things. And I guarantee you,
when Kamala Harris talked about

2620
02:51:16,559 --> 02:51:19,979
busing, you know, whatever. And
however she felt about it, and

2621
02:51:19,979 --> 02:51:25,529
what's true, and she was there
to, to slam Biden. I think a lot

2622
02:51:25,529 --> 02:51:29,039
of people heard that for the
first time. They'd never heard

2623
02:51:29,039 --> 02:51:31,349
of this. They didn't know what
it was about didn't get it. And

2624
02:51:31,349 --> 02:51:33,749
then like, really, you were made
to do that. Well, that's just

2625
02:51:33,749 --> 02:51:35,189
crazy. And you

2626
02:51:35,190 --> 02:51:38,520
I think they're ancient and go
along with the clips here. They

2627
02:51:38,520 --> 02:51:40,860
were indoctrinated with the
little black girl with her

2628
02:51:40,860 --> 02:51:44,730
schoolbooks. And you have rank
and file of white people go

2629
02:51:44,730 --> 02:51:47,340
home, go home, we don't want you
here. You know, that's the

2630
02:51:47,340 --> 02:51:52,710
mental abuse, abuse, abuse and
mental imagery that's painted

2631
02:51:52,710 --> 02:51:55,980
with that. And when you want to
say, when you say school choice,

2632
02:51:56,190 --> 02:51:58,290
because all we going back to
segregated schools, we've

2633
02:51:58,290 --> 02:52:01,830
already been there. I mean,
that's basically what people do

2634
02:52:01,830 --> 02:52:05,010
they go in cycles in their kids
that they send their kids to

2635
02:52:05,010 --> 02:52:09,570
private schools. Well, I don't
want my kids going to school

2636
02:52:09,570 --> 02:52:13,440
with poor kids, not necessarily
black kids. I mean, that's what

2637
02:52:13,830 --> 02:52:19,590
Joe Biden said, but you know, I
won't go there. Well, yeah, they

2638
02:52:19,590 --> 02:52:22,590
use the media or the media used,
they thought they were using the

2639
02:52:22,590 --> 02:52:25,860
media, but actually the media
were using them. Yes. To make

2640
02:52:25,890 --> 02:52:32,100
inroads. As we talked about MLK
and JFK to have strengthened

2641
02:52:32,100 --> 02:52:33,270
their political base,

2642
02:52:33,600 --> 02:52:38,130
we will dramatize this whole
situation by marching by the

2643
02:52:38,130 --> 02:52:39,090
1000s.

2644
02:52:39,420 --> 02:52:42,150
Television also found Martin
Luther King strike

2645
02:52:42,150 --> 02:52:45,720
the Reverend Martin Luther King,
Jr. will face the nation,

2646
02:52:46,080 --> 02:52:49,410
Americans heard a leader who
shattered racial stereotypes.

2647
02:52:49,859 --> 02:52:54,779
We feel that the time has come
for a full scale assault on the

2648
02:52:54,779 --> 02:52:56,369
system of segregation.

2649
02:52:56,580 --> 02:53:00,000
This man is someone you could
actually talk to, and who seemed

2650
02:53:00,000 --> 02:53:03,090
quite reasonable for white
Southerners, this was new

2651
02:53:03,090 --> 02:53:06,540
information. And part of a
national Awakening

2652
02:53:06,930 --> 02:53:10,320
was the media to carry our
message to the rest of the

2653
02:53:10,320 --> 02:53:10,770
nation.

2654
02:53:10,949 --> 02:53:15,749
Protest became progress once the
media woke up, and Americans

2655
02:53:15,809 --> 02:53:22,199
rose up. Mark Strassman, CBS
News, Atlanta.

2656
02:53:23,010 --> 02:53:25,380
And I just like to point out
that this is the point where

2657
02:53:25,380 --> 02:53:28,770
Malcolm X was no longer in the
picture could not get the same

2658
02:53:28,770 --> 02:53:31,380
media attention. It was all MLK

2659
02:53:32,010 --> 02:53:36,180
where he had the people do Yeah,
that's the difference. Like

2660
02:53:37,110 --> 02:53:40,200
everybody was like with their
weight cane now and you know,

2661
02:53:40,230 --> 02:53:42,180
cost of the product Martin
Luther King, I'm not gonna say

2662
02:53:42,180 --> 02:53:45,150
I'm not going to denigrate him
anyway. But we also have that

2663
02:53:45,150 --> 02:53:49,440
tat that narrative that was
being used that he's used to

2664
02:53:50,250 --> 02:53:54,930
fuel like say he's agreeable,
and you know, he all he he's

2665
02:53:54,930 --> 02:53:59,160
chattels. The stereotypes. What
are those stereotypes? I think?

2666
02:54:00,300 --> 02:54:04,740
I don't understand what they're
trying to say there. What What

2667
02:54:04,740 --> 02:54:07,350
were you thinking beforehand,
like, oh, they can't Oh, there's

2668
02:54:07,350 --> 02:54:10,350
one Nick a former Senate. Let's
talk to him.

2669
02:54:10,859 --> 02:54:12,419
He's very articulate.

2670
02:54:13,410 --> 02:54:14,790
That's the that's the

2671
02:54:15,119 --> 02:54:18,029
that's, that's no, that's what
Joe Biden said about Barack

2672
02:54:18,029 --> 02:54:19,079
Obama. By the way.

2673
02:54:19,289 --> 02:54:22,019
He's clean. He's clean.

2674
02:54:25,020 --> 02:54:28,080
He'd be perfect to President.
Gosh, we should elect that guy.

2675
02:54:29,940 --> 02:54:32,760
Yeah, you don't have to say I
think the point is made.

2676
02:54:33,450 --> 02:54:39,270
No cuz this, them picking our
leaders for us. Oh, yeah. It's

2677
02:54:39,270 --> 02:54:43,140
like now, Patrice callers and
the whole Black Lives Matters

2678
02:54:43,140 --> 02:54:49,200
and even taco mix over there.
Shaun King. How do you get to

2679
02:54:49,200 --> 02:54:52,680
pick our leaders? I would rather
hear from the lady who was doing

2680
02:54:52,680 --> 02:54:56,070
the genealogy work. That's if
you want to talk about somebody

2681
02:54:56,070 --> 02:54:58,140
who's actually in the field
doing the work let's hear from

2682
02:54:58,140 --> 02:54:58,740
her right

2683
02:54:58,770 --> 02:55:02,280
and this of course, also planes,
people who are who were doing

2684
02:55:02,280 --> 02:55:04,830
the work for themselves. And
then Adam curry shows up and

2685
02:55:04,830 --> 02:55:08,820
says, Hey, you know, hate us.
And, and, and I can understand

2686
02:55:08,820 --> 02:55:11,280
it's a knee jerk reaction like,
Oh, what are you trying to lead

2687
02:55:11,280 --> 02:55:14,400
us? Now? I get that I get that
not offended, by the way.

2688
02:55:15,540 --> 02:55:18,540
Right. But we also got to judge
our allies a little better to

2689
02:55:18,570 --> 02:55:23,100
that. No, no, I'm just in
general, because there's some

2690
02:55:23,100 --> 02:55:26,490
great opportunities out there
that you might run off by, you

2691
02:55:26,490 --> 02:55:29,070
know, just judging to my so
quickly, well,

2692
02:55:29,070 --> 02:55:31,740
I'm then I'm gonna, I'm gonna be
honest with you, which I always

2693
02:55:31,740 --> 02:55:36,870
am. But I feel privileged. I
feel privileged because I can go

2694
02:55:36,870 --> 02:55:41,490
out and speak my mind. Because
for good or worse the society

2695
02:55:41,490 --> 02:55:45,930
and we're in, I can always say,
oh, but look, here's my friend

2696
02:55:45,930 --> 02:55:49,170
over here. This is who I'm who
I'm learning it from. So I have

2697
02:55:49,170 --> 02:55:53,100
like a shield, which is not
entirely fair. But I do have it

2698
02:55:53,100 --> 02:55:57,090
and I use that subconsciously,
or consciously. I feel good. I

2699
02:55:57,090 --> 02:56:00,330
know, you won't hear me say,
Well, my black friend Mo, I

2700
02:56:00,330 --> 02:56:02,880
don't say that. But it's I've
been learning a lot with my

2701
02:56:02,880 --> 02:56:04,530
friend Mo. And so

2702
02:56:04,560 --> 02:56:08,040
it's more than me. It's the
information. Yeah, well, of

2703
02:56:08,040 --> 02:56:10,740
course, you can you can knock
down those narratives. It's

2704
02:56:10,740 --> 02:56:14,790
like, Oh, yeah. What about this
is like, no, no, no, no, you

2705
02:56:14,790 --> 02:56:15,510
slice them up.

2706
02:56:16,290 --> 02:56:19,830
I bet that's not gonna fly. So I
guess what I'm saying is, I want

2707
02:56:19,830 --> 02:56:23,850
everyone who's listening to
this, to use that to use more

2708
02:56:23,850 --> 02:56:28,560
facts. More facts with Adam
curry as that shield that you

2709
02:56:28,560 --> 02:56:32,340
can point people toward and say,
well, here's where I've learned

2710
02:56:32,340 --> 02:56:34,800
it, and who's here's who I'm
learning it from. And here's the

2711
02:56:34,800 --> 02:56:37,650
information that's being
presented. And please counter

2712
02:56:37,650 --> 02:56:41,430
that. So people can feel a bit
better about themselves, about

2713
02:56:41,430 --> 02:56:43,500
speaking the truth and being
honest.

2714
02:56:44,190 --> 02:56:49,650
Yeah, they like to say the truth
will set you free. Well,

2715
02:56:49,680 --> 02:56:52,740
countering the narrative of the
MLK in the civil rights

2716
02:56:52,740 --> 02:56:57,780
movement, our guy, Malcolm X, he
was all about the ballot

2717
02:56:57,780 --> 02:57:00,450
footballer and black
nationalist.

2718
02:57:03,450 --> 02:57:07,800
The political philosophy of
black nationalism only means

2719
02:57:07,800 --> 02:57:10,860
that the black man should
control the politics and the

2720
02:57:10,860 --> 02:57:17,220
politicians in his own
community. The time when white

2721
02:57:17,220 --> 02:57:21,240
people can come in our
community, and get us to vote

2722
02:57:21,240 --> 02:57:24,270
for them, so that they can be
our political leaders and tell

2723
02:57:24,270 --> 02:57:27,510
us what to do and what not to do
is long gone.

2724
02:57:34,470 --> 02:57:38,250
By the same token, the time when
that same white man's knowing

2725
02:57:38,250 --> 02:57:42,150
that your eyes are too far open,
consider another Negro into the

2726
02:57:42,150 --> 02:57:43,950
community. You invade.

2727
02:57:54,180 --> 02:57:59,130
They were long gone until they
came back. Saturday, and this is

2728
02:57:59,130 --> 02:57:59,700
what year?

2729
02:58:01,110 --> 02:58:09,060
This is 1963 363. Yeah, and the
thing is, is common sit, every

2730
02:58:09,060 --> 02:58:11,400
other group does this, you know,
when you go talk today, you

2731
02:58:11,400 --> 02:58:14,490
know, that's how humans are, you
know, Hispanics, they don't, you

2732
02:58:14,490 --> 02:58:20,400
know, people either like them,
or align to their, their

2733
02:58:20,400 --> 02:58:26,940
political ideology with us is
here. Now you acquiesce to what

2734
02:58:26,970 --> 02:58:30,510
he's telling you, or she's
telling you. That's not how

2735
02:58:30,510 --> 02:58:34,290
politics work. And the reason
why I'm just the posted MLK,

2736
02:58:34,320 --> 02:58:38,280
Malcolm X is not to cause any
fissure between the two, because

2737
02:58:38,400 --> 02:58:41,250
both of them, we actually get
into the know the man made.

2738
02:58:41,250 --> 02:58:50,370
Great point is that we need we
are at the point now, a lot of

2739
02:58:50,370 --> 02:58:53,190
black people like we want to
pick for ourselves, and we want

2740
02:58:53,190 --> 02:58:56,040
to hear what you have to offer.
And if you don't have anything

2741
02:58:56,040 --> 02:59:01,290
to offer, or anything that's
going to sustain me. You have no

2742
02:59:01,320 --> 02:59:07,680
you have no inroads to my vote.
And they were here. Know what,

2743
02:59:09,570 --> 02:59:15,630
60 years ago? Let me 5060 years
ago. Yeah. And it was what do

2744
02:59:15,630 --> 02:59:20,190
they do? They gave us black
politicians. That was that was

2745
02:59:20,190 --> 02:59:22,890
that was the new black preacher
was the black politician. Here

2746
02:59:22,890 --> 02:59:25,650
you go. Here's a guy that looks
like you. But when they go into

2747
02:59:25,650 --> 02:59:29,460
Black Caucus, they vote all the
things that don't help, or they

2748
02:59:29,520 --> 02:59:32,700
even brought John Lewis in the
guy who was on TV.

2749
02:59:36,780 --> 02:59:39,540
And once he got in there a
moisture become part of the

2750
02:59:39,540 --> 02:59:42,840
system. Yeah, that's where it
goes. It makes you it's just

2751
02:59:42,840 --> 02:59:46,470
like what we're talking about
once you need your own land, and

2752
02:59:47,070 --> 02:59:50,850
that I know we're talking about
our culture. But the same thing

2753
02:59:50,850 --> 02:59:57,090
here. You need your own land.
You need your own area, your own

2754
02:59:57,090 --> 03:00:00,240
space. Let's use that word. They
love to use that word. Need your

2755
03:00:00,240 --> 03:00:04,050
own space? That way we can have
a communication within ourselves

2756
03:00:04,050 --> 03:00:08,880
and say, What? What do we really
need? All right? We're 75%

2757
03:00:08,880 --> 03:00:12,840
illegitimate on illegitimacy.
Right? We need more fathers.

2758
03:00:12,870 --> 03:00:17,010
Yeah. What else do we need, we
need skills. Because we don't

2759
03:00:17,010 --> 03:00:20,610
have anybody to build things for
us. But I don't want to be able

2760
03:00:20,610 --> 03:00:23,490
to point out, I'm just saying
that we can go over somebody's

2761
03:00:23,490 --> 03:00:27,240
ballot a bullet clips, but maybe
let's just jump straight to

2762
03:00:27,240 --> 03:00:30,270
five. Because I mean, he kind of
you know, regurgitates the point

2763
03:00:30,270 --> 03:00:33,870
over and over again, but for
brevity of the show, let's just

2764
03:00:33,870 --> 03:00:36,240
jump straight to 520 2 million

2765
03:00:36,240 --> 03:00:41,400
black victims of Americanism are
waking up and gaining a new

2766
03:00:41,580 --> 03:00:45,450
political consciousness,
becoming politically mature. And

2767
03:00:45,450 --> 03:00:48,900
as they become developed this
political maturity, they're able

2768
03:00:48,900 --> 03:00:53,670
to see the recent trends in
these political elections, they

2769
03:00:53,670 --> 03:00:56,250
see that the whites are so
evenly divided that every time

2770
03:00:56,250 --> 03:00:59,580
they vote, the race is so close,
they have to go back and count

2771
03:00:59,580 --> 03:01:04,860
the votes all over again. Which
means that any block, any

2772
03:01:04,860 --> 03:01:07,890
minority that has a block of
votes that stick together, is in

2773
03:01:07,890 --> 03:01:13,440
a strategic position. Either way
you go. You're in a position to

2774
03:01:13,440 --> 03:01:21,780
determine who goes to the White
House, and you're the one who

2775
03:01:21,780 --> 03:01:22,200
has that.

2776
03:01:24,090 --> 03:01:28,500
So so good to hear that it's so
good to hear that man, it really

2777
03:01:28,500 --> 03:01:30,300
is. Really, it's

2778
03:01:30,300 --> 03:01:33,420
like he was looking, he was in a
time machine and coming to this

2779
03:01:33,420 --> 03:01:37,590
very, very moment he was from
the future. And this is a points

2780
03:01:37,590 --> 03:01:42,420
that we laid out in the most
recent shows. Black men hold

2781
03:01:42,420 --> 03:01:47,550
this election in our hand, and
it doesn't take us to go vote

2782
03:01:47,550 --> 03:01:50,610
for Donald Trump or you know, it
just all it takes is not to

2783
03:01:50,610 --> 03:01:55,080
vote. That's what scared I'm
telling. That's what scared for

2784
03:01:55,080 --> 03:01:58,050
the Democrats, but they have the
activators.

2785
03:01:58,080 --> 03:02:01,950
And I want to say that we've
talked about this on a previous

2786
03:02:01,950 --> 03:02:04,650
episode, and someone got really
mad and said, I can't believe

2787
03:02:04,650 --> 03:02:06,870
that you just went along with
most saying I'm not going to

2788
03:02:06,870 --> 03:02:10,890
vote. It's unAmerican. And I say
that's there's nothing in the

2789
03:02:10,890 --> 03:02:15,150
Constitution that says you have
to exercise your vote by casting

2790
03:02:15,150 --> 03:02:19,650
it for a certain person. It is
the power that that one vote

2791
03:02:19,650 --> 03:02:22,830
holds that you can use, as far
as I'm concerned, anyway, you

2792
03:02:22,830 --> 03:02:27,540
want to use it? And if you want
to take a bribe for fine, it's

2793
03:02:27,540 --> 03:02:31,080
your vote. I mean that, you
know, if you're Yeah, let you

2794
03:02:31,080 --> 03:02:34,260
know, doesn't matter. But if you
want to withhold it, it's just

2795
03:02:34,260 --> 03:02:35,490
as powerful a message

2796
03:02:35,520 --> 03:02:39,750
just Can I explain that for a
minute? Because I get I get it,

2797
03:02:39,780 --> 03:02:45,420
you got it once I get it. I got
it, baby. 1015 times, let me

2798
03:02:45,420 --> 03:02:48,660
explain to you when I say not to
vote, if you want to vote your

2799
03:02:48,660 --> 03:02:53,520
local elections for your school
board or, you know, those kind

2800
03:02:53,520 --> 03:02:56,010
of, you know, votes or a
proposition that you want to

2801
03:02:56,010 --> 03:03:00,900
vote yea or nay for that's fine.
What I'm saying is into in the

2802
03:03:00,930 --> 03:03:05,220
presidential election, and even
national elections in general,

2803
03:03:05,250 --> 03:03:08,760
let's just say that. The reason
why people said why don't you

2804
03:03:08,760 --> 03:03:14,490
vote with our party I want you
to write yourself in. It's the

2805
03:03:14,490 --> 03:03:20,400
symbolism of one number. Voter
turnout, if we can drop that

2806
03:03:20,400 --> 03:03:25,920
number down so low. That's the
message. We started to show up

2807
03:03:25,950 --> 03:03:29,730
on episode number one on that
point, they realized, Oh, I

2808
03:03:29,730 --> 03:03:32,610
think it went under like 56, I
believe or something like that.

2809
03:03:32,610 --> 03:03:33,810
It was some? It was

2810
03:03:34,710 --> 03:03:37,500
six? Yeah. 66? I think.

2811
03:03:37,619 --> 03:03:44,399
So if he comes in at 4945. What
that tells both political

2812
03:03:44,399 --> 03:03:45,509
parties are they're in play

2813
03:03:45,600 --> 03:03:48,720
here. Here's the pitfall No,
here's the pitfall, the way the

2814
03:03:48,720 --> 03:03:53,310
media is today. They will spin
this and make it something that

2815
03:03:53,310 --> 03:03:58,740
it's not. That's it'd be voter
suppression. Exactly. The black

2816
03:03:58,740 --> 03:04:02,070
man was not allowed to vote
because the evil Republican

2817
03:04:02,070 --> 03:04:05,310
Party and the white men and
could be any party suppressed it

2818
03:04:05,310 --> 03:04:07,590
with that because he didn't have
an ID or whatever the hell

2819
03:04:07,590 --> 03:04:10,020
they're gonna come up with.
That's exactly right.

2820
03:04:10,470 --> 03:04:13,410
But let us speak for ourselves
when they come to make that

2821
03:04:13,410 --> 03:04:17,280
claim that we will let them know
No, we know what we're doing.

2822
03:04:17,640 --> 03:04:20,460
You didn't give us a viable
option, you know, saying on the

2823
03:04:20,460 --> 03:04:25,740
table, we chose not to
participate. It's it's far more

2824
03:04:25,740 --> 03:04:31,050
power. Because if you go and
vote third party, it masks the

2825
03:04:31,230 --> 03:04:34,950
disapproval or the
disappointment we have in the

2826
03:04:34,950 --> 03:04:38,040
current option. Right? That's
what we're trying to signify

2827
03:04:38,040 --> 03:04:41,040
here and I'm gonna it's not
about being lazy or, you know, I

2828
03:04:41,040 --> 03:04:43,860
don't want to go out and I don't
want to make a choice. No, it

2829
03:04:43,860 --> 03:04:47,850
consciously I'm speaking for
myself here consciously. And I

2830
03:04:47,850 --> 03:04:50,910
hope other black men are
thinking the same way I am. Or

2831
03:04:50,910 --> 03:04:54,270
at least what Hear me out. If
we're making a conscious

2832
03:04:54,270 --> 03:04:58,860
decision to say, Okay, you got
this guy over here. He got to

2833
03:04:58,860 --> 03:05:04,410
$500 million pop off 100 billion
dollar plan by us not voting is

2834
03:05:04,410 --> 03:05:08,730
going to symbolize that and give
us access to that. So be it. I'm

2835
03:05:08,730 --> 03:05:12,000
not doing anything for him.
Right. But Democrats, you're not

2836
03:05:12,000 --> 03:05:14,580
going to use me to block him
either. Because what have you

2837
03:05:14,580 --> 03:05:17,640
put on the table? It's about
politically, it's about being

2838
03:05:17,640 --> 03:05:21,150
politically mature. And what
when they come around with it,

2839
03:05:21,180 --> 03:05:24,900
not a narrative, or, you know,
we're gonna get blamed already

2840
03:05:24,900 --> 03:05:29,550
to prepare yourself or black man
didn't save the Republic, you

2841
03:05:29,550 --> 03:05:33,840
know, it's gonna Doom this to
another four years. The orange

2842
03:05:33,840 --> 03:05:34,050
MAN

2843
03:05:34,050 --> 03:05:36,600
bad? Well, we're gonna blame it
on Kanye. Obviously, that's

2844
03:05:36,600 --> 03:05:39,810
where it starts blaming Kanye
and his voters and his voters,

2845
03:05:39,840 --> 03:05:42,780
of course. And I think Kanye is
jumping on that grenade for this

2846
03:05:42,780 --> 03:05:43,770
very purpose.

2847
03:05:44,520 --> 03:05:47,250
That's fine with us. Because
when they want to come, you know

2848
03:05:47,250 --> 03:05:50,970
what, if you want to be that
ignorant, continue to do what

2849
03:05:50,970 --> 03:05:53,700
you do and see what happened in
the next four years. Right. And

2850
03:05:53,700 --> 03:05:56,250
what I'm speaking about is this
is not no lifelong commitment.

2851
03:05:56,250 --> 03:06:00,840
This is a four cycle for you.
Even two years, I mean, it

2852
03:06:00,840 --> 03:06:03,480
depends on what you're putting
on the on the midterm ballots.

2853
03:06:04,110 --> 03:06:09,090
But yeah, where's the tangibles?
So yeah, I get a lot of that

2854
03:06:09,090 --> 03:06:11,460
pushback, oh, you're not going
to vote, you need to vote. Go

2855
03:06:11,460 --> 03:06:16,110
vote for yourself. No, it's this
is a conscious and deliberate

2856
03:06:16,140 --> 03:06:20,580
effort to push that number down
as far as we can. So they can

2857
03:06:20,580 --> 03:06:23,820
see this, aren't they? They
understand the metrics. They

2858
03:06:23,820 --> 03:06:26,760
understand. And they say, Oh,
what, what maklumat say? He

2859
03:06:26,760 --> 03:06:30,900
said, when there's a voting bloc
available, and she don't take my

2860
03:06:30,900 --> 03:06:34,260
word for it, I mean, try it out,
take it, take it, take it out

2861
03:06:34,260 --> 03:06:36,990
Malcolm X until they'd give us
something, then we don't have to

2862
03:06:37,560 --> 03:06:43,140
deal with them. With that said,
these male leaders had to go

2863
03:06:43,170 --> 03:06:47,010
yep. A comes the CIA agent.

2864
03:06:47,370 --> 03:06:50,490
GLORIA at the festival, you
worked for the independent

2865
03:06:50,550 --> 03:06:51,660
research service.

2866
03:06:53,760 --> 03:06:57,990
Exactly. When did your own
association with the CIA start?

2867
03:06:58,020 --> 03:07:02,670
And in what fashion they come to
you? Or did you go to them? In

2868
03:07:02,670 --> 03:07:06,900
1958, when I came home from and
from India, I discussed with

2869
03:07:07,140 --> 03:07:11,940
student leaders past and
present, many of them active

2870
03:07:11,940 --> 03:07:16,800
with the National Student
Association, this kind of small

2871
03:07:16,830 --> 03:07:20,160
foundation to encourage
Americans to go, they thought it

2872
03:07:20,160 --> 03:07:25,740
was a good idea to I was then
told by foundations and

2873
03:07:25,740 --> 03:07:30,600
professors and friends, that if
that I should not do this, that

2874
03:07:30,600 --> 03:07:33,420
I would get in trouble with
house on American Activities

2875
03:07:33,420 --> 03:07:41,160
Committee, the American Legion,
all of those 50 people, and I

2876
03:07:41,160 --> 03:07:44,700
became convinced that it was
impossible. It was at that point

2877
03:07:44,700 --> 03:07:48,360
that the student leaders said to
me that they have in the past

2878
03:07:48,360 --> 03:07:53,220
received funds for international
programs from the CIA, and that

2879
03:07:53,220 --> 03:07:55,590
they felt that this was
important and could also be

2880
03:07:55,590 --> 03:07:57,090
partly funded by the CIA.

2881
03:07:57,960 --> 03:08:04,290
Ah, yes, the Gloria Steinem
story, Episode 21 of Mo facts,

2882
03:08:04,290 --> 03:08:07,170
if you want to listen to it in
context, but yes, here comes the

2883
03:08:07,170 --> 03:08:09,330
feminist group into the mix.

2884
03:08:10,200 --> 03:08:13,140
So I know you're saying Mohandas
that plan so what we're going to

2885
03:08:13,140 --> 03:08:16,140
do is we're gonna cut to the
chase and go straight to 39 and

2886
03:08:16,140 --> 03:08:19,050
say how Gloria Steinem targeted
black women.

2887
03:08:19,170 --> 03:08:23,580
In 1978, Gloria Steinem put a
book called Black macho and the

2888
03:08:23,580 --> 03:08:27,390
myth of the super woman on the
cover of MS magazine. The book

2889
03:08:27,390 --> 03:08:30,840
was written by a black feminist
and activist named Michelle

2890
03:08:30,840 --> 03:08:33,960
Wallace, who came out of
nowhere. Wallace was in her

2891
03:08:33,960 --> 03:08:37,500
early 20s At the time, as she
was being touted as the leader

2892
03:08:37,530 --> 03:08:41,640
of black feminism. In the book
Wallace called abolitionist like

2893
03:08:41,640 --> 03:08:46,020
Harriet Tubman and Sojourner
Truth, ugly and stupid for

2894
03:08:46,020 --> 03:08:49,950
supporting Black men. She called
Black revolutionaries chauvinist

2895
03:08:49,950 --> 03:08:54,450
macho pigs and advises black
women to go it alone. Gloria

2896
03:08:54,450 --> 03:08:57,420
Steinem said that Wallace his
book would define the future of

2897
03:08:57,420 --> 03:09:00,300
black relationships, and she
pushed hard to make sure the

2898
03:09:00,300 --> 03:09:03,780
book received massive publicity.
Gloria Steinem's work triggered

2899
03:09:03,780 --> 03:09:07,800
a flood of hate black men books
and films that continues to this

2900
03:09:07,800 --> 03:09:11,670
day. Needless to say, some are
quite suspicious of MS magazine

2901
03:09:11,670 --> 03:09:14,640
and Gloria Steinem. Why was
Steinem sticking her nose into

2902
03:09:14,640 --> 03:09:17,850
the affairs of the black
community? So people started

2903
03:09:17,850 --> 03:09:20,550
doing some research and Steinem
when it came out that Gloria

2904
03:09:20,550 --> 03:09:23,550
Steinem was probably the ghost
writer of the book with Michele

2905
03:09:24,060 --> 03:09:27,180
Wallace, his name on it was had
a nervous breakdown and went

2906
03:09:27,180 --> 03:09:29,490
into hiding for two years. And

2907
03:09:29,490 --> 03:09:34,080
I'll take a stab at translating
that to today. Not only do we

2908
03:09:34,080 --> 03:09:38,910
not have any male leadership of
note in Black Lives Matter ink,

2909
03:09:39,360 --> 03:09:44,550
or the movement for that matter,
right now and I have it for my

2910
03:09:44,550 --> 03:09:49,830
clipless for no agenda, or maybe
for us in the next episode. The

2911
03:09:49,830 --> 03:09:54,060
message now going out from
Democratic Party operatives is

2912
03:09:54,300 --> 03:09:59,400
the most abused person in
America is the black woman.

2913
03:10:00,750 --> 03:10:07,230
And the funny you say that? You
did I know, I know. You know the

2914
03:10:07,230 --> 03:10:09,930
source of that where they're
using for that, and they gotta

2915
03:10:09,930 --> 03:10:17,610
back up that claim. Hit me,
Malcolm X. They're taking these

2916
03:10:17,610 --> 03:10:18,030
totally.

2917
03:10:19,020 --> 03:10:21,630
Because no way. Yes,

2918
03:10:21,690 --> 03:10:25,350
I'll find that clip because he's
actually said that when he was

2919
03:10:25,350 --> 03:10:27,990
talking about the women in the
context of the time he was

2920
03:10:27,990 --> 03:10:32,580
speaking up, right not now
because he Yeah, post his death

2921
03:10:32,580 --> 03:10:39,120
and Pope MLK is dead. The
agencies and the Liberals cut

2922
03:10:39,120 --> 03:10:45,570
deals with black feminist mean,
if you talk to him now Gloria

2923
03:10:45,570 --> 03:10:47,370
Steinem is a hero to them. Oh,
yeah.

2924
03:10:48,210 --> 03:10:48,630
Wow.

2925
03:10:48,660 --> 03:10:49,440
Why did they talk?

2926
03:10:50,220 --> 03:10:52,530
I didn't know that. I didn't
know that they were using a

2927
03:10:52,530 --> 03:10:56,040
quote from Malcolm X out of
context. And by the way, that's

2928
03:10:56,220 --> 03:10:59,130
a real danger Will Robinson we
got to make sure that's

2929
03:10:59,130 --> 03:11:02,490
counteracted? Because that's
really, really horrible. How

2930
03:11:02,490 --> 03:11:05,670
did that how did you think I
knew exactly what the source

2931
03:11:05,670 --> 03:11:08,610
was, I saw that cropping up
myself, these narratives. This

2932
03:11:08,610 --> 03:11:12,870
is what we do here. Yeah. We
identify the narratives and

2933
03:11:12,870 --> 03:11:16,620
defuse them before they're used.
And that's exactly what they're

2934
03:11:16,620 --> 03:11:19,350
doing. They're going to take his
quote, twist it. And if you

2935
03:11:19,350 --> 03:11:23,970
spoke to Malcolm X now he will
be completely horrified,

2936
03:11:24,270 --> 03:11:27,180
horrified with how Black Lives
Matter. And you know, those

2937
03:11:27,180 --> 03:11:33,330
groups are carrying themselves.
So yeah, so good job.

2938
03:11:34,830 --> 03:11:39,660
doing the work, Mr. Mole, I feel
good. do extra credit. Always

2939
03:11:39,660 --> 03:11:44,130
give me a biscuit. I'm getting
the biscuit. Biscuit.

2940
03:11:44,610 --> 03:11:52,080
Yeah. So this final clip. This
is a black Vietnam vet. He went

2941
03:11:52,080 --> 03:11:58,530
and he served his country. And I
want he speaks the frustration

2942
03:11:58,530 --> 03:12:02,460
that black men have with people
that think we want something for

2943
03:12:02,460 --> 03:12:05,970
free. Or we just want something,
a handout or something. And I

2944
03:12:05,970 --> 03:12:10,230
thought a good way to wrap this
show up because it's kind of the

2945
03:12:10,230 --> 03:12:14,460
sentiment now a black man, like
we don't want anything less or

2946
03:12:14,460 --> 03:12:16,050
more than the old old test.

2947
03:12:18,480 --> 03:12:22,470
This revolution is filled with
so many ironies really, first,

2948
03:12:22,470 --> 03:12:26,760
you tell us that it is manly to
keep your word. Right, if you

2949
03:12:26,760 --> 03:12:31,440
are a man, you keep your word.
And now all of the black people

2950
03:12:31,440 --> 03:12:34,200
in this country are demanding,
and even the black people in the

2951
03:12:34,200 --> 03:12:38,760
whole world are demanding is
that you keep your word. You

2952
03:12:38,760 --> 03:12:43,500
told us we were free? Well then
show us that we're free. You

2953
03:12:43,500 --> 03:12:47,130
told us that there is justice,
equality for all in this country

2954
03:12:47,130 --> 03:12:51,090
willing to stick to your word.
And let us see the justice and

2955
03:12:51,090 --> 03:12:55,410
equality for all. Or else admit
to us that you're not a man,

2956
03:12:55,410 --> 03:12:57,810
you're a word, you're afraid of
us you're afraid to give us

2957
03:12:57,840 --> 03:13:02,010
equal status. You're afraid that
if you give us equal ground that

2958
03:13:02,010 --> 03:13:06,030
we will match you and we will
override you. And if that's what

2959
03:13:06,030 --> 03:13:09,240
you're afraid of us, then tell
us that just what you're afraid

2960
03:13:09,240 --> 03:13:13,170
of, but don't keep hiding it
from us and holding this up to

2961
03:13:13,170 --> 03:13:15,930
us. And every time we ask you
for something, you give us a

2962
03:13:15,930 --> 03:13:18,750
little bit of something and it's
all tucked in is and we don't

2963
03:13:18,750 --> 03:13:22,200
want tokenism and then most
black men in this world don't

2964
03:13:22,200 --> 03:13:25,860
want charity. And yet still
every time we ask you for

2965
03:13:25,860 --> 03:13:28,170
something, you give us a little
piece a little piece you're

2966
03:13:28,170 --> 03:13:33,150
playing games with us when our
children what big man I've seen

2967
03:13:33,150 --> 03:13:37,050
my father have to put it well,
all kinds of stuff. He was a big

2968
03:13:37,050 --> 03:13:41,010
man. He raised the family he
went down and he had to go to

2969
03:13:41,010 --> 03:13:45,870
the back door with his wife.
We're not asking for anything.

2970
03:13:45,870 --> 03:13:49,170
We're not asking for any favors.
All we want is what's ours.

2971
03:13:50,220 --> 03:13:54,180
And when I look at YouTube,
there are so many black men now

2972
03:13:55,320 --> 03:14:00,210
with this type of language and
and this type of vibe and

2973
03:14:00,210 --> 03:14:05,220
mission and you can it's now it
may just be the algos spitting

2974
03:14:05,220 --> 03:14:08,370
that out at me. I don't know,
but I see it. And I think it's

2975
03:14:08,370 --> 03:14:09,660
good. And I think it's
happening.

2976
03:14:10,230 --> 03:14:13,290
It's not just the algos because
it's happening in real life

2977
03:14:13,290 --> 03:14:16,620
because you start when you talk
to people, you haven't talked

2978
03:14:16,620 --> 03:14:20,010
for a while, they'll tell you
we'll fill each other out like

2979
03:14:20,400 --> 03:14:24,270
we think about this, you know,
it's we're getting a message

2980
03:14:24,270 --> 03:14:28,080
we're getting on code. We're
going to take back our families

2981
03:14:28,800 --> 03:14:33,690
take back our communities, and
you know steer thing in the

2982
03:14:33,690 --> 03:14:36,780
right direction and whoever is
not on board, I feel sorry for

2983
03:14:36,780 --> 03:14:37,830
him. And number

2984
03:14:37,830 --> 03:14:40,590
one is I like your starting
point. Take Back Our families

2985
03:14:40,590 --> 03:14:43,440
first and that flies right back
to our donation note about Big

2986
03:14:43,440 --> 03:14:47,640
Brothers and Big Sisters. Is
that start with your family. We

2987
03:14:47,640 --> 03:14:52,320
all could do better than that.
No matter what. What color

2988
03:14:52,890 --> 03:14:55,410
that's where you start. I mean
that's what you win the battle

2989
03:14:55,410 --> 03:14:59,280
it is that that's the table with
the dinner table late

2990
03:14:59,280 --> 03:15:05,430
Yes. Exactly that's the big
table. Exactly, exactly. Well, I

2991
03:15:05,430 --> 03:15:08,610
hope everyone enjoyed this as
much as I did it was so nice to

2992
03:15:09,240 --> 03:15:13,770
even though I've been through
the other 49 episodes so far and

2993
03:15:14,100 --> 03:15:17,490
and it's it's a lot it's a lot
to take in for anybody with this

2994
03:15:17,490 --> 03:15:22,080
as is such a great refresher and
so current for where we are

2995
03:15:22,080 --> 03:15:25,740
today except of course that we
need to have the big he'll come

2996
03:15:25,740 --> 03:15:30,930
back special by the president
which will which I'm sure will

2997
03:15:30,930 --> 03:15:35,160
cause all kinds of other things
to crop up but we'll be here and

2998
03:15:35,460 --> 03:15:37,950
then mo will lead us through it
and we'll we'll deconstruct it

2999
03:15:37,950 --> 03:15:39,090
and figure it out together.

3000
03:15:40,470 --> 03:15:44,400
And as I always say pay
attention to everything and the

3001
03:15:44,400 --> 03:15:45,690
truth revealed itself

3002
03:15:45,810 --> 03:15:52,710
and remember us at mo
facts.com moefoundme.com mo fund

3003
03:15:52,710 --> 03:15:55,890
me.com and Mo thank you so much
man I had a great time

3004
03:15:56,490 --> 03:15:57,270
alright see you later

3005
03:15:57,630 --> 03:16:16,440
talk to you next week everybody
ups and downs sometimes you will

3006
03:16:16,440 --> 03:16:22,410
want to smile sometimes got to
stick right on and stay together

3007
03:16:22,410 --> 03:16:59,190
you know what we have only just
begun Ladies and Gents calm

3008
03:17:13,350 --> 03:17:14,970
walking, learn

3009
03:17:29,670 --> 03:17:37,320
can't see get seen we just can't
see get to see