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For more facts with Adam curry
for July 20 2020. This is

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episode number 43 Cash rules
everything around me. The

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money's Dolla dolla Bill y'all.
Yes, here he is our very own

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Dolla dolla Bill y'all. Hey mo
How you doing?

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I'm doing good Adam, how about
yourself?

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Fantastic man I love this track.
This is really good. Wu Tang

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Clan Wu

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Tang Clan, the one and only love
it love

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it. Well, apologies everybody
it's been we've had a bit of an

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absence since episode 42 I will
take first responsibility since

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I decided to pass on my bride
away for her birthday. We went

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to Rona central in Florida, I
came back and we're still alive.

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And, and Moe, you're new. We're
still kind of moving. We want to

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get back on track for Saturday.
And I don't know it's like Mo.

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All kinds of people showing up
at the house.

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Oh, my end. Okay, so it's twice
your fault, Adam. Adam was mine.

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Okay, let's give credit. Let's
give credit where credit's due.

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All right. So you went on
vacation? Yes, I may use the you

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kicked me down a rabbit hole.

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Right. Okay. I'm sorry. In that
case, yes, indeed. It is my

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Saturday I get up, Bobby. I got
the coffee going. I was saying

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get my clear list already. And I
hear well, I don't actually hear

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a knock at the door. My daughter
come downstairs said Hey, Dad,

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there's somebody at the door
which that's rare around these

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parts. ADT guy. He shows up,
unbeknownst to anybody is like,

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Hey, I'm here to put your
security system. Man. We've been

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waiting for two weeks. I'm like,
Ah, and it's one of the guys.

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You can't

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you can't you can't send them
away at that point. I mean, you

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gotta Yeah,

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I would have to leave with him.
Because we don't have security

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here. And you know, whatever,
whatever.

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He can eat a lot of coffee for
sit and watch for the next 24

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hours.

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Right. So then he was I caught
him at the dorm. Like, I want

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cameras here, here and here. And
I'm trying to go back downstairs

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every second. He was like,
Sorry, do you know this feature?

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Do you know that feature? I'm
like, come on. Man. We just ran

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out of time.

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It doesn't all work. Is it all
hooked up? And is it all

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installed? Now? Are you safe? Is
the family say yes. Okay.

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I feel safe. I can see all 360
degrees and my property and

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nice. I feel quite safe.

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Excellent. Well, we we of course
committed to each other. We're

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really going to try and keep a
Saturday schedule. Now as things

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are starting to shake out. And
Moe actually has a day job that

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he's kind of figured into his
schedule. So we should be we

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should be good for our Saturdays
from now on God willing. You

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never know life does get in the
way from time to time. How about

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I

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cannot say one thing, please for
before you do. The reason why I

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had to stay on schedule now is
because of my newest biggest

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fan. Even before the show, I was
his biggest fan. My uncle

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Richard. Oh, okay. He is now he
is now. Yeah, he isn't. I found

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out he's a listener. So he's
like, he's like when you're

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dropping. We're dropping.

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Uncle Richard. Nice. Well, at
least we know we have one fan.

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That's good. I know. We got a
lot of producers out there but

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actual fans. Alright. This is a
big deal. All right. Well, I'm

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going to see what we got on the
old. We'll have topics. Man,

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there's so much but we know it's
somewhere located near a rabbit

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hole. So as we see it go round
and round. Where does it stop?

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Nobody knows. Moe knows because
today's show topic

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is we are trained Marxists.

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That would be Patrisse Cullors.
What's your name from Black

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Lives Matter? Yes.

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portrays colors young black.
Days, correct? Yes. Oh, by the

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way, I

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want to come right out to us.
Yes. Go ahead. Before we start,

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I just wanted to say, are we
going to talk about Kanye today

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at any point?

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No, okay. We can't. We can't
even Kanye. He needs his

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episode. He had one episode
already.

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Exactly. Exactly. All right. I'm
sorry. I didn't mean

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to call your rabbit hole. No,
no, you're right. It's that's

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the major. That's a major major.

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It's flat. It's a slag topic.
It's on the way. There will be

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plenty of time. No doubt.

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Yes, we have to talk about the
Patrisse Cullors. And her

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mission that we all have
speculated pointed to, but she

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just came right out and said it
that they're trained Marxists.

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Yes. Yes. That was pretty good.

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So as you always know, I want to
go back and listen to the whole

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interview that that snippet came
from. Yep. And that is Warren

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Mr. Jared a ball and it's time I
know an interest interesting

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interview with Black Lives
Matter co founder, Patrisse,

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Cullors

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Supertrees. For those who may
have just been introduced to you

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in a most direct way at the
Netroots conference,

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intervention you conducted,
please help them in us see past

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what appears, from my point of
view to have been a tremendous

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amount of appropriation and
suppression of you, and bull and

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Alicia as founders, and the
particular brand of radical

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black gender and sexuality
politics you all work with. So

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if you would please summarize
for us how you see the origins,

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politics, and purpose of Black
Lives Matter.

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Wow. So I kind of remember there
was a disruption at the net

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roots, which is a political
thing, isn't it? Net roots? Yes,

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yes, I seem to recall this.

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It was pretty much they were
trying to be co opted. As you

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know, with any organization,
they usually take the leaders

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out or replace the leaders. So
as Jared said, they were being

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suppressed and were
appropriated. And then he also

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said, a radical brand, a black
gender, Oh, yes. Sexuality

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politics,

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which to me sounded like, wait a
minute, do we have more lesbian

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black women on the scene again,
because this is I've seen this.

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Yes. And and we're really going
to get to what Black Lives

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Matter is about. And I want to
say this, I know I tried to run

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with the term Black Lives
Matter, Inc. Yeah, differentiate

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between the organization and the
people on the ground. But I

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think I'm gonna shorten it up
just to black ink. And black ink

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is pretty much going to be
anything that's done as far as

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business that can be the Al
sharpnose of the world, the

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Jesse Jackson's the black law
matters. And we'll be just nice,

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short and sweet blogging.

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I like it. I like it. I'm
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find the domain name. Continue
playing along.

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Alright, so to further flesh out
this radical Brando, black,

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gender and sexuality, politics.
And clip number three, they go

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on to talk about black men?

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I think that's a great question.
And the first place I'll go is

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the origins come from a deep
place of black love and black

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rage. Both at least Yeah, myself
and Opal feeling the impact of

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George Zimmerman being acquitted
of Trayvon Martin's murder, what

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that actually meant for our
society, what that meant for

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this country to allow for this
light skinned, white passing man

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to kill a young boy and get away
with it, we knew this was going

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to have consequences far greater
than that current moment. And so

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black lives matter was a call
for all black lives. And it was

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important for us, as black women
as and two of which are queer,

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was to actually talk about the
totality of black life, and that

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black sis men are not the sum of
black people, but rather, all

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black life being the totality of
black people. Whether that's

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black trans folk, whether that's
black folks who've been

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incarcerated, whether that's
black folks who are currently

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incarcerated black folks with
disabilities, we want it to call

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a new black liberation movement
that centered those most at the

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margin as a part of a political
frame to challenge the current

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system that we live in.

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Well, Mo sounds to me like
you're out. You're on the outs

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there, man. You don't don't
count.

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I am not surprised. I was never
surprised because as she said, I

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mean a lot this clip. There's a
lot to unpack. First of all the

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origin that she said it comes
out of black love and black

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rage. Yeah, black rage towards
who is a question that we need

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to ask. Because that's to crew
women. And she also said, I'm

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sure there's some black rage
aimed at Black men black

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cisgendered men to be specific.
She also says about a lack light

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skinned white passing man, or
she referred to George

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Zimmerman. Because as we all
know, George Zimmerman will be

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actually classified as Hispanic
Latinx but better excuse me. So

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um, this light skinned white
passing man. We've talked about

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passing on his show and then she
rounds out the clip with Black

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says men are not the sum of
black people. Yeah. Even though

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they use black sis men, in
majority to push their call sort

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what this says I've been saying
And we are being used. We're a

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political football. Mmm, yep. To
kick open and what they realized

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is what all other groups have
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They said, Okay, we can use
black men to kick open the door

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and leave black men holding the
door while we rush.

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everybody rushes in. Yeah,
exactly.

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So, um, are you surprised at

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this? You know, as well, we, of
course, we've done some work on

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Black Lives Matter. And I've
researched it quite a bit

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myself. And to hear that there's
a strong anti man element in it

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now is not surprising at all.
It's, it's part of the

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problematic patriarchy. In this
case, it's specifically sliced

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and diced. And, yeah, it seems
like a repetition of what we've

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been talking about for almost,
by the way, July 31. Is our one

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year anniversary. So yeah, it's,
I mean, am I surprised? No, but

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that's because I've been around
for almost a year.

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And what I wanted people to
realize is I've said this a

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couple times. One is we brought
up this term heteronormative.

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Yeah. Patriarchy. Yeah. I think
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And I've also stated that
there's been an article written

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and one Jamel Hill supported
this article, it got a lot of

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support from what you call
allies of Black Lives Matter,

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stating that black man, all the
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are black. Yes, exactly. We'll
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around to breaking that down
eventually. But I wanted this

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interview. Everybody ran with
the Marxist thing. Yeah. But I

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think this is more telling entry
to the black community. Because

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black men are the catalysts that
black men being killed in the

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street are the catalysts for
what's going on? For everything

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that's going on, but they want
to say, oh, no, we'll push it to

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the side. And we're talking
about our gender. And I won't I

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don't want to belabor the point
but we talked about one other

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shows that they brought out
climate change and it's kind of

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weird. What it is it's
exclusionary it's all she

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literally said it she said all
lives matter. But you know, we

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really need to focus on anything
But sis black men. That's That's

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what she said. You can't deny
it. Yes, good with the problem.

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I started with a with a white
Hello, hello. With a white

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people black.

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Why do you think why do you
think we've joined in together

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on this show, man, it's like
white, white men are the even

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bigger problem. So yeah, it
makes sense.

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And I'll say this, I'll say this
in closing, and we can go to the

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next clip. But they're putting
black sis men in a very

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paintless into a corner because
now you're making us choose

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between being, quote unquote,
black, or being a quote unquote,

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man. Yeah. And that's not a
decision you really don't want

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us to make? No, just just being
honest. So um, wait,

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wait a minute. Wait a minute.
Yes. Which to me means if you

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really had to choose gun to your
head, you choose for being a

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man? Yes, I had to choose me at
first, I would have expected

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nothing else from me, actually.
So yeah.

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Because that's more of my
identity. I mean, if you want to

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get into identities, that's a
bigger part of my identities

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course and blackness.

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Yes. Well, this is so this I
know, because, you know, we hang

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out.

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Right? So, um, I guess we can
get right into Marx's

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bow, do you respond to that
particular critique, again, a

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loving critique from an elder of
the struggle that some others

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share that I've even shared as
well, to be frank is a concern

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about in part because of the CO
optation and the appropriation,

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that more clear ideological
structuring might be of some

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value here. But how do you
respond to to those kinds of

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getting loving criticisms?

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I think that the criticism is
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might. I think, a lot of things.
The first thing I think, is that

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we actually do have ideological
frame, myself, and Alicia, in

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particular, are trained
organizers. We are trained

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Marxists. We are super versed on
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And I think that what we really
try to do is build a movement

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that could be utilized by many,
many black folk. We don't

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necessarily want to be the
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think we've tried to put out a
political frame. That's about

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centering who we think are the
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black community to really fight
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Kind of kicking myself because
of course I was one of those

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dope She just got the Marxist
comment for the no agenda show

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and left it at that. But you're
right. There's a lot in his.

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This is deep. I'm really glad
you did that. We've trained you

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well on the no agenda show.

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So this other setup is Jared.
Jared asks, Patrice about critic

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Sam Black Lives Matters, lacks
structure or a plan. So she, I

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think she was irked by that
because one jarred himself being

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a man I was questioning,
questioning her and then it was

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an elder that hall so he framed
the question that had brought up

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the point and he agree with the
point, right, so I think she was

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hurt. And by being hurt, she let
the truth come out. To say that

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we're train one train
organizers. And when I hit the

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word organizer, I think
community organizer, and I think

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no, not Umberto. Right. So you
here trying to organize

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ourselves? Okay, so my ears
perked up, and then she drops

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the hammer. She said, we're
trained. She's, no.

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That's a very good analysis. I
think you're right. She just

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needed to she was like, Who do
you think I am? And that's your

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right. And she let it slip out
and says, Excuse me, just so you

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know, I'm not some dipshit who
just stood up here. I'm a train

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train Marxist. Yeah. Yeah,
you're right. Like a

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revolutionary like, don't mess
with me.

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She used the word. She said.
We're super versed. Yeah, super

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first. So she's a super. So
she's a super train Marx's super

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first. Are we I'm not surprised,
though. Because if you saw that

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was me breaking down the waves,
right? The first wave are Marx's

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tactics. Yep. And then you use
the second wave, a proper arm,

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excuse me of provocateurs, third
wave your criminal element. And

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in the fourth wave, you blank it
at all, and with the good

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people. So then you hide amongst
the masses who did

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this interview again? Who was
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This is Jared a ball from the
Mix What I Like, I guess

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podcasts are show. So Well, I
was a great font for him.

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I would guess I would hope that
he that his follow up question

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was, where did you receive your
train your marks his training

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and who trained you? And could
you give me a little details on

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that? I'm sure that was a
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No, it wasn't I will say this
about Jared. Jared seems to be

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very left leaning. I don't want
to taint cast anything upon him.

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But he seems me He's big. He's
as my major and colonialism.

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He's a professor, so on black
history and things of that

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nature. So I think he understood
what she was saying it was nice.

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What's understood doesn't have
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situation. Okay. All right. So
to set up this next clip, she

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portrays goes on to define black
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One last question, if I could
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controversy in some circles over
the definition of black. Could

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you say a word or two about how
you can see the term black and

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what you mean, when you say
black lives matter.

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Black to me is both about a race
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it's also a political statement.
It's a political framework. And

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I think it's important, as we're
building out this movement for

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black liberation, that we in the
Black Lives Matter movement,

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allow for necessary debate, to
come up around how we use the

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term and who's using a term and
when it's used, and why it's a

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it's an important point to sort
of build people together. And I

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think it's specifically
important when it comes to how

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the US is very clever at turning
other groups. White, right, and

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making them white. And we've
seen that throughout history

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when groups are not white. And
when the white power structure

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was threatened, they figured out
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I think as we move forward, we
have to figure out political

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alignments that hold blackness
as a as a broader framework than

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just sort of the skin we're in
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I'm curious what groups she's
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the groups that we've discussed
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white leadership, including
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NAACP, what groups is she
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When you say groups? I mean, can
you can you clarify what you

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mean

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organizations? NAACP are the
groups where she talks about

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uprisings and like Black
Panther.

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I'm not sure. Oh, I think what
she says so she says, Okay, it's

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come with me. She says there one
She blames America for making

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other people white. When it's
when it's convenient, correct.

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Well made that statement. Well,

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she said that, you know, we have
groups and then the US he said

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is great at turning them white
or making them white.

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I got I got I got it. I got it.
No, no watch what she's

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referring to is how the Irish
was the Irish in the name room,

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a white, Hispanic white god.

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Oh, all right. I'm glad we
figured that one out.

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We were hearing it two different
ways. Yeah. That was kind

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of cool. Actually like that.
Yeah, that was cool. Okay,

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so how I heard it was when the
non white people quote unquote,

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white people numbers are low.
They'll ingrain in graph. I

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mean, but the other group, but
that's basically me. That's

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the system of white supremacy
that was started over in Europe.

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That was I've learned so much.
Oh, teach. I want to start on my

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forehead. Yes. Okay. That is
true. That is truly the that

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capturing that way is what we've
defined as true white supremacy.

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And the point I want to make is
she just did this a clip

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previous two clips prior with
George Zimmerman, because she

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made him

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bam, okay, I got it now. All
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All right. And here's the
conflict. And this is why I have

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to use black ink. Because
unbeknownst to me, Oh, I thought

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Black was talking about my
lineage. But little did I know,

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it was also a political
statement. I would know. walkie

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talkie political state

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sandwich guy, you know, hanging?
He got the sandwich boards on

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the front in the back. Wow. All

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right. So this is why we have to
use this term from 43. Own.

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We're talking about black we
have to talk about black ink.

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Yep. Because black ink is the
political statement, which they

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are monetizing. Yes, or
political and monetary gain,

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right? Yes, she says who can use
the term? So basically, it's a

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licensing agreement

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we're determining we're going to
use well and you know that but

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no, that may not be far off. I'm
sure that you can't just be

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using black lives matter and I'm
sure that's all licensed they

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got that down man they had that
I mean, I found out they had

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that locked up and 2015 that it
also showed up the legalese

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everything for all the
trademarks you name it

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but they're talking about black
Excel Oh, this is why we saw all

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these millions and millions of
dollars pouring in for

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corporations to be like we need
to be black affiliated right so

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it's kind of like he the high
efficient on your on your guy

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like all your all your brands
are black friendly. So that's

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that's the money you saw. And
she and finally she said she

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blacks as broader framework than
skin. She said blacks as a

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broader framework than the skin
we're in. Yes. So now they've

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just got to graft in who they
want to to be black.

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Yeah, yeah. That That, by the
way, is the work of a train

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Marxist. That kind of wording is
good man that now she's good at

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it. She's good, give her big
props for that.

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So we have the burqa black ink.
So now we have to go back and

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say what is Marxism and who is
Karl Marx.

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Marx was born in 1818 interior
in Germany. Soon he became

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involved with the Communist
Party, a tiny group of

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intellectuals advocating for the
overthrow of the class system,

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and the abolition of private
property. He worked as a

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journalist and had to flee
Germany, eventually settling in

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London. Marx wrote an enormous
number of books and articles,

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sometimes with his friend
Friedrich Engels, mostly Marx

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wrote about capitalism, the type
of economy that dominates the

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Western world. It was in his day
still getting going. And Marx

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was one of its most intelligent
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were some of the problems he
identified with it. Modern work

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is alienated. One of Marx's
greatest insights is that work

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can be one of the sources of our
greatest joys. But in order to

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be fulfilled at work, Marx wrote
that workers need to see

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themselves in the objects they
have created.

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Nice, I bet you you've been on
this case. Yeah. For a while

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now, but I bet you didn't
realize it. You want me you want

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to know what it is please? No
two boys a Marxist. Oh, yeah. He

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just said what he just said I
need to recognize myself in my

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word. Yes. Yeah. It That's
exactly what he was saying. He

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was saying, I know you don't
want me to make the noodles this

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way, but I need to recognize

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the noodles in the news. I don't
see myself and

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that's best pure marks is
taught. So I don't want to take

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your noodle gun from you because
that's the no agenda thing. So I

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came up with my own thing is
called the castle cannon

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the castle and I love it. I love
it. I love it that is gonna be

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here that thing again. Nice,
cancel cannon. Excellent.

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Excellent.

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So we're seeing these the
intersectionality to use the

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language of new to boy, Black
Lives Matter. They're all saying

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we want to take ownership and
control. The you know, the

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organization?

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Yes. And we want to control
production, which is where

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socialism and communism come in.

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Right. And this is I just wanted
to point that out because I was

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like, wow, like, cuz they didn't
dawn on me. It was like,

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notable, I thought he was just
complaining. And like, you know,

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it was like more of I don't want
to get into the generational

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war. But more like a millennial
just complaining about, you

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know, why do we have to do it
this way. But this is ironclad

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Marxism that he was kicking out.

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Well, especially in light of how
Patrisse Cullors was talking

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about, you know, it being more
than just the skin goes beyond

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the skin become part of
something else. And that would

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be the work, I guess.

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Yes, this is the work.

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Just as an aside, because I've
done a lot on Karl Marx and his

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name was mentioned in that first
clip Richard angles. The

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thinking for me goes that marks
here. He was a journalist, he

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was really kind of like a
blogger of his age. And I

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believe it was a lot of Richard
angles or angles, actually, that

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had a lot of the ideas. And Karl
Marx blogged about it. And he

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got most of the credit doesn't
really matter because Marxism

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remains the same, the same
thing.

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Yeah, my angel ism doesn't have
the ring to it. At all,

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absolutely. It's all about the
branding. Of course, in the day,

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why do

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you think I'm the pod father and
Dave Winer hates me, man, it's

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obvious,

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right? It's all about branding.
So I guess we can get deeper

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into who Karl Marx was with a
clip seven.

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Part of the problem is that
modern work is incredibly

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specialized, specialized jobs
make the modern economy highly

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efficient. But they also mean
that it's seldom possible for

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any one worker to derive a sense
of the genuine contribution they

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might be making to the real
needs of humanity. Marx argued

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that modern work leads to
alienation and finding, in other

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words, a feeling of
disconnection between what you

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do all day, and who you feel you
really are, and what you think

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you'd ideally be able to
contribute to existence. Modern

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work is insecure. Capitalism
makes the human being utterly

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expendable. Just one factor
among others in the forces of

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production, and one that can
ruthlessly be let go, the minute

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costs rise, or savings can be
made through technology. And

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yet, as Marx knew deep inside
each of us, we don't want to be

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arbitrarily let go with
terrified of being abandoned.

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Communism isn't just an economic
theory, understood Emotionally,

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it expresses a deep seated
longing that we always have a

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00:28:32,730 --> 00:28:36,150
place in the world's heart that
we will not be cast out.

442
00:28:37,980 --> 00:28:42,810
Yes, a lot to unpack there. One,
I think a lot of these people to

443
00:28:42,810 --> 00:28:46,890
get sucked into Marxism is
because they don't have the

444
00:28:46,890 --> 00:28:49,290
family there, right? I mean,
that's where you really find

445
00:28:49,290 --> 00:28:53,370
your identity and your family
and that kind of thing. So if

446
00:28:53,370 --> 00:28:56,640
your whole life is dedicated to
your job, you're saying to your

447
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,790
job, I need you to appreciate me
I can't let you cut me off

448
00:28:59,820 --> 00:29:04,080
easily. So I think that's why
we're starting to see this pivot

449
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:09,270
back to Karl Marx communism
socialism in there it's all it's

450
00:29:09,270 --> 00:29:12,510
all I'm saying malmark is on the
same road. I mean, in my

451
00:29:12,510 --> 00:29:12,960
opinion,

452
00:29:13,110 --> 00:29:18,210
yeah. And the lack of a father
may is probably just as you

453
00:29:18,210 --> 00:29:22,080
know, forget just family just
like a man about the house.

454
00:29:22,890 --> 00:29:25,860
So maybe that's why they're
number one target is the man I

455
00:29:25,860 --> 00:29:30,720
mean, it just becomes cyclical
right? It just seems itself

456
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:36,750
feeding Yep. Now I will say I do
myself have capitalism is the

457
00:29:36,750 --> 00:29:39,540
best system I don't think we're
in a capitalistic society

458
00:29:39,540 --> 00:29:42,900
anymore. I think it's more
corporatist are some people even

459
00:29:42,900 --> 00:29:47,160
say, what is it what's the
tyranny like the US technocratic

460
00:29:47,220 --> 00:29:50,940
yet tech society? Yeah, that's
another good one. So but um,

461
00:29:50,940 --> 00:29:55,800
Henry Ford, just as a small
aside, Henry Ford, had realized

462
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:59,310
this issue that profit sharing
right you have this you have

463
00:29:59,340 --> 00:30:03,450
this share that profits with the
workers to keep the workers

464
00:30:03,450 --> 00:30:06,780
motivated. And he had this thing
called a social welfare

465
00:30:06,780 --> 00:30:10,440
department. And what he would do
is he would study the workers.

466
00:30:10,470 --> 00:30:16,650
And he would give him, he came
up with the $5 a day, $5 per day

467
00:30:16,650 --> 00:30:22,230
work day, which was unheard of
1914. He also, um, was the 40

468
00:30:22,230 --> 00:30:26,640
hour workweek. So I think within
capitalism, there is an

469
00:30:26,670 --> 00:30:30,750
opportunity to balance out the
worker and employee II

470
00:30:30,990 --> 00:30:37,230
relationship. But this is what
the communist slash socialist

471
00:30:37,230 --> 00:30:41,160
slash marks its prey on is this
rift between the worker and the

472
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:45,480
employee. And I think
capitalists have to do a better

473
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:47,610
job. And that's just my quick
aside. Well, and

474
00:30:47,610 --> 00:30:49,920
I would add to that, I know a
lot of people who still work at

475
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:57,630
the Ford Motor Company today,
and that that was that culture,

476
00:30:58,500 --> 00:31:02,640
of being proud of what they're
doing all together is definitely

477
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,760
still there. I mean, they they
love the cars that they build.

478
00:31:06,180 --> 00:31:08,340
And you know, the stuff you see
in the commercial, you know,

479
00:31:08,340 --> 00:31:12,270
wherever we work here, boom. And
I'm sure Chevy has the same with

480
00:31:12,270 --> 00:31:16,050
the Ford Motor Company still has
that absolute culture. And I

481
00:31:16,050 --> 00:31:19,440
think the people that are still
pretty happy, even though of

482
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:22,650
course, they're being eliminated
by automation, but you know,

483
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,680
it's not that fast to process
and there's always human

484
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:26,760
creativity needed.

485
00:31:27,540 --> 00:31:30,720
well being and manufacturing
myself anytime you could point

486
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,780
to your children as they are
built that are held, right that

487
00:31:33,780 --> 00:31:38,520
yeah, that is great for society
in itself, because it allows

488
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:42,450
your children to have a certain
respect for you. That my dad

489
00:31:42,450 --> 00:31:45,570
correct something. Yeah, of
course, you have any other

490
00:31:45,570 --> 00:31:47,850
industries as well. But I'm just
not speaking in manufacturing

491
00:31:47,850 --> 00:31:52,350
terms, because that's when it
was really industrial age when

492
00:31:52,350 --> 00:31:56,250
this thing was really kicking
up, right, with Karl Marx. So

493
00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:00,420
let's wrap up, wrap up this
final set of clips with

494
00:32:01,110 --> 00:32:02,220
prothesis death.

495
00:32:02,610 --> 00:32:05,580
This is perhaps the most obvious
question that Marx had with

496
00:32:05,580 --> 00:32:09,090
capitalism. In particular, he
believed that capitalists shrink

497
00:32:09,090 --> 00:32:12,210
the wages of the laborers as
much as possible in order to

498
00:32:12,210 --> 00:32:15,870
skim off a wide profit margin.
He called this primitive

499
00:32:15,900 --> 00:32:19,860
accumulation or springlake, to
accumulate Xian, whereas

500
00:32:19,860 --> 00:32:23,340
capitalists see profit as a
reward for ingenuity and

501
00:32:23,340 --> 00:32:27,240
technological talent. Marx was
far more damning, profit is

502
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:31,050
simply theft. And what you're
stealing is the talent and hard

503
00:32:31,050 --> 00:32:34,170
work of your workforce. However
much one dresses up the

504
00:32:34,170 --> 00:32:38,190
fundamentals. Marx insists that
at its crudest, capitalism means

505
00:32:38,190 --> 00:32:41,130
paying a worker one price for
doing something and then selling

506
00:32:41,130 --> 00:32:44,460
it to somebody else at a much
higher price. Profit is the

507
00:32:44,460 --> 00:32:46,620
fancy term for exploitation.

508
00:32:48,900 --> 00:32:52,230
For that day, I can see I can
see why that made sense. I don't

509
00:32:52,230 --> 00:32:55,500
think it's true anymore. I mean,
that people get screwed. Yes,

510
00:32:55,500 --> 00:32:56,970
but there's a Go ahead.

511
00:32:58,170 --> 00:33:04,170
No, no, you're on the right
path. And if you look at me just

512
00:33:04,170 --> 00:33:07,440
putting on an improper context,
if you're talking about black

513
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:13,230
people fresh out of slavery, and
experiencing sharecropping, we

514
00:33:13,230 --> 00:33:16,140
you hear this just on a surface
level, it may seem appealing to

515
00:33:16,140 --> 00:33:21,720
you. Yeah. But one side is like,
right, you mean like the food I

516
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:22,440
do all the work?

517
00:33:23,850 --> 00:33:25,110
Exactly. Take all the

518
00:33:25,110 --> 00:33:29,670
profits. You basically it
sometimes you leave me in debt,

519
00:33:29,700 --> 00:33:33,510
a lot of times sharecroppers
were left in debt. So when you

520
00:33:33,510 --> 00:33:39,000
hear this alternate economic
ideology, you it might seem

521
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,220
appealing to you, but there's
only one problem

522
00:33:42,270 --> 00:33:44,550
well as problems.

523
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,780
What I'm saying to them when the
one thing they didn't realize

524
00:33:48,780 --> 00:33:52,350
was the term collectivism,
right, and we're gonna hear

525
00:33:52,350 --> 00:33:56,040
about that from Stephen Kotkin
from the Hoover Institute,

526
00:33:56,399 --> 00:34:01,109
collectivization, you're going
to correct me on this ties the

527
00:34:01,109 --> 00:34:05,039
peasants to collective farms
forces them to work on

528
00:34:05,039 --> 00:34:08,969
collective farms, in effect
reintroducing serfdom. Have

529
00:34:08,970 --> 00:34:12,570
I got that right? Yes, that's
basically the story. All right.

530
00:34:12,870 --> 00:34:17,970
And you write here that Stalin
in imposing collectivization and

531
00:34:17,970 --> 00:34:21,960
slaved 100 million people,
again, I got that right, all

532
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:26,910
right. Why, why was that
necessary? Why was

533
00:34:26,910 --> 00:34:29,250
collectivization of such
importance to Stalin?

534
00:34:30,270 --> 00:34:33,660
In the old days, people argue
that it was necessary because

535
00:34:33,990 --> 00:34:37,800
this is how you modernized a
peasant country, right? You

536
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:41,160
modernize the peasant country
through coercion. You use the

537
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:45,510
state, to force everybody to do
what the state needed them to

538
00:34:45,510 --> 00:34:49,290
do. And that's how you built an
industrial power out of a

539
00:34:49,290 --> 00:34:49,680
peasant.

540
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:53,640
Marxism Leninism and
collectivization is necessary

541
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:56,730
How come so modern those terms
outcome.

542
00:34:57,450 --> 00:35:01,620
Marxism is about the trade
sentence of capitalism.

543
00:35:02,550 --> 00:35:10,020
Capitalism is evil, alienation,
exploitation, war, on mass

544
00:35:10,020 --> 00:35:14,520
unemployment and depressions. So
the hat in order to get to a

545
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:19,020
better place in history, Marx
argued, capitalism had to be

546
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:22,080
transcended the huggy alien word
of Hegel.

547
00:35:23,310 --> 00:35:31,020
Hmm. So here we have them
basically saying communism or

548
00:35:31,050 --> 00:35:34,620
Marxism is going to lead you
right back to slavery. I don't

549
00:35:34,620 --> 00:35:41,610
think this sharecroppers part of
it, instead of you paying your

550
00:35:41,610 --> 00:35:47,850
money to the crooked slave
owners, you would just pay it to

551
00:35:47,850 --> 00:35:48,300
the state.

552
00:35:48,330 --> 00:35:51,810
Yeah. Sounds about right. Right.
And

553
00:35:51,810 --> 00:35:54,690
it goes from, you know, what is
it? But of course,

554
00:35:55,110 --> 00:35:58,380
there's the there's the
illusion, the illusion is that

555
00:35:58,410 --> 00:36:00,720
you know, that the state, of
course, is made up by the

556
00:36:00,720 --> 00:36:04,050
people, until you find out that
it's really only the people who

557
00:36:04,050 --> 00:36:07,800
are in the party. And that's
really it's net, it's nepotism

558
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,800
all throughout. That's how
that's how that usually works

559
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:11,130
out.

560
00:36:12,150 --> 00:36:15,150
And that's the problem, because
all you system are ran by

561
00:36:15,150 --> 00:36:20,130
humans, and humans are self self
gratifying. So at the end of the

562
00:36:20,130 --> 00:36:22,890
day, you're gonna still be
dealing with the same problems.

563
00:36:22,890 --> 00:36:26,130
You haven't curb capitalism,
like you said, nepotism,

564
00:36:26,460 --> 00:36:36,540
favoritism. And all other forms
of just unequal and unfair,

565
00:36:37,380 --> 00:36:38,700
unfair practices when,

566
00:36:39,450 --> 00:36:42,210
when, when it's appropriate in
the show mode, let me know when

567
00:36:42,210 --> 00:36:47,700
I can tell you about the new
emergent form of autism, that

568
00:36:47,700 --> 00:36:50,460
we're that we're right now that
we're in right now. What kind of

569
00:36:50,460 --> 00:36:54,150
an economy I think that is being
formed. Just if there's a spot,

570
00:36:54,180 --> 00:36:55,500
let me know. And I'll give it to
you.

571
00:36:56,310 --> 00:37:02,100
Okay, if not, if we get too far
along, just just drop it off. So

572
00:37:02,100 --> 00:37:07,590
we have talked about communism,
and its relationship to civil

573
00:37:07,590 --> 00:37:11,520
rights. And just to bring people
up to speed. I have a throwback

574
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:16,290
clip from show 22. And this is
Danny Rubin, who was a major

575
00:37:16,290 --> 00:37:20,340
figure in the Communist Party.
He talks about Rosa Parks and

576
00:37:20,340 --> 00:37:21,360
the bus movement. So

577
00:37:22,770 --> 00:37:26,370
you know, a couple years later,
we went to them and asked them

578
00:37:26,370 --> 00:37:32,100
to help finance these buses of
young people to use march in

579
00:37:32,100 --> 00:37:37,170
support of the Supreme Court
decision. They did it they know

580
00:37:37,170 --> 00:37:45,870
that's a towel, we were able to
bring 2000 young people to DC

581
00:37:49,470 --> 00:37:56,550
what else? Oh, so I'm so I'm
getting a picture. This is this

582
00:37:56,550 --> 00:38:02,370
is the stuff closest to 60. That
led up to it. Of course, there

583
00:38:02,370 --> 00:38:07,140
was Rosa Parks and, and the
Montgomery bus boycott and the

584
00:38:07,140 --> 00:38:12,930
Montgomery. I forget what they
call it Association, something

585
00:38:12,930 --> 00:38:19,080
Association. And we had a role
in those things. Rosa Parks was

586
00:38:19,170 --> 00:38:25,560
was active in the southern negra
Youth Congress. People knew her.

587
00:38:26,190 --> 00:38:32,070
She was not a party member. But
after she became a heroine, she

588
00:38:32,070 --> 00:38:33,420
was, you know, friendly.

589
00:38:36,330 --> 00:38:38,670
Well, that maybe this is a good
point for you to mention the

590
00:38:38,670 --> 00:38:41,730
Highlander Folk School. Maybe
that's a good time for you to

591
00:38:41,730 --> 00:38:43,260
mention the Highlander Folk
School.

592
00:38:44,069 --> 00:38:48,089
Yeah, I intend to. Let me just
finish this.

593
00:38:49,230 --> 00:38:54,270
So yesterday, I was I had my
headphones on. I'm listening to

594
00:38:54,270 --> 00:39:00,120
Kanye A's rally in South
Carolina. Ne Ne asked the crowd,

595
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,520
he says, you know about Rosa
Parks, right. You know, she

596
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:05,490
wasn't the first and I'm like,
Yeah, Claudette Colvin, I know,

597
00:39:05,490 --> 00:39:10,530
I know. He never got to it,
because he got cut off something

598
00:39:10,530 --> 00:39:14,160
like that. But it was it was
interesting. The audience there

599
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:15,780
was certainly not all in the No.

600
00:39:17,610 --> 00:39:21,600
Of course not. I mean, because
his narrative and I keep telling

601
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:25,800
these things. This narrative is
more powerful than real history

602
00:39:25,830 --> 00:39:30,210
always. And I've said this
before, and I know, I keep

603
00:39:30,210 --> 00:39:34,410
saying it's a hot take. But then
that narrative of slavery is

604
00:39:34,410 --> 00:39:38,580
just as dangerous to black
people as the actual act of

605
00:39:38,580 --> 00:39:42,480
slavery was because it leaves us
in a state of perpetual

606
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:43,740
victimhood. Yeah,

607
00:39:43,830 --> 00:39:44,940
I'm ringing the bell for you.

608
00:39:45,810 --> 00:39:49,260
Alright, so we have Rosa Parks
here. We know the real Rosa

609
00:39:49,260 --> 00:39:53,580
Parks. She liked guns, so she
wasn't all for she wasn't all

610
00:39:53,580 --> 00:40:00,570
for the non violence part of
civil rights. And they may say

611
00:40:00,570 --> 00:40:04,320
she was friendly. She can never
be official party member because

612
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:08,400
she was too close to King. Right
and that and King hat was the

613
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:13,500
squeaky clean guy. We always say
any any any nefarious

614
00:40:13,500 --> 00:40:16,110
organization, you gotta have the
clean guy, you know the bad guy?

615
00:40:16,140 --> 00:40:19,650
Well, as I've learned to say to
people oh am okay. Yeah, he was

616
00:40:19,650 --> 00:40:20,970
the Greta of the time.

617
00:40:21,899 --> 00:40:25,229
Right. So I mean, you can't have
Greta out here. Getting all

618
00:40:25,229 --> 00:40:29,849
dirty or taking yeah, getting
dirty. So, Bob, just by

619
00:40:29,849 --> 00:40:35,459
association, Rosa Parks couldn't
be seen as communist as well,

620
00:40:35,669 --> 00:40:40,559
because a lot of people early on
knew what that meant. And it

621
00:40:40,559 --> 00:40:44,489
also often open them up for
Hoover to you know, have a clean

622
00:40:44,489 --> 00:40:48,959
line of attack against them.
Yes. With that said, what we

623
00:40:48,959 --> 00:40:55,169
need to do is go way, way back
before Rosa Parks, and how

624
00:40:55,169 --> 00:40:58,379
carbon with communism brought
raw racial equality to the

625
00:40:58,379 --> 00:40:58,799
south.

626
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:02,160
I'm Michelle Martin, and this is
Tell Me More from NPR news.

627
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:04,320
First, we continue our Black
History Month series of

628
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:06,900
conversations. Throughout this
black history month, we've been

629
00:41:06,900 --> 00:41:10,530
focusing on new news about black
history, new scholarship that

630
00:41:10,530 --> 00:41:13,080
has emerged in recent decades
that sheds new light on the

631
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:16,290
story of black people in
America. Today, we want to hear

632
00:41:16,290 --> 00:41:19,200
about communists in the civil
rights movement. Now that's a

633
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:22,290
sensitive subject, since those
working for equality have often

634
00:41:22,290 --> 00:41:25,350
been accused of being communists
in this country, but some

635
00:41:25,350 --> 00:41:28,710
weren't. And we're joined now by
Robin Kelly, author of hammer

636
00:41:28,710 --> 00:41:32,190
and hoe Alabama communists
during the Great Depression, it

637
00:41:32,190 --> 00:41:35,760
documents how the Communist
Party worked to secure racial,

638
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:38,580
economic and political justice.
He's a professor of American

639
00:41:38,580 --> 00:41:40,500
Studies in history at the
University of Southern

640
00:41:40,500 --> 00:41:43,470
California. And this semester,
he's the Harmsworth, Professor

641
00:41:43,470 --> 00:41:46,200
of American History at the
University of Oxford, and we

642
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:48,150
welcome you to the program.
Thank you for joining us.

643
00:41:48,270 --> 00:41:52,740
Geez, somehow I didn't read
about this in the 1619 project.

644
00:41:52,740 --> 00:41:54,720
I don't understand how that
could have missed that.

645
00:41:54,900 --> 00:41:58,020
Well, it's because you have to
protect your assets, one being

646
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:01,950
MLK, which I tell people, and
we're gonna see it later in the

647
00:42:01,950 --> 00:42:06,510
show is he's the greatest
control mechanism. They have

648
00:42:06,510 --> 00:42:09,630
over black people, right? Not
him that not demand but the

649
00:42:09,630 --> 00:42:13,470
product that they created from
his legacy is quite clear that

650
00:42:13,470 --> 00:42:17,130
the civil rights movement was
birthed out of communism, and

651
00:42:17,130 --> 00:42:18,330
communist tactics,

652
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:22,830
not really not really taught not
really taught that way. I will.

653
00:42:24,450 --> 00:42:27,480
Marxist teacher, a Marxist
university that could teach you

654
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:30,870
about Marxist influence on

655
00:42:31,170 --> 00:42:36,000
exactly No, I'm I'm all in and
this is a little discussed topic

656
00:42:36,030 --> 00:42:39,540
in a main in a mainstream way.
That's a great fine, this NPR

657
00:42:39,540 --> 00:42:41,550
stuff is fantastic. Yeah.

658
00:42:41,580 --> 00:42:46,650
So I guess we can just get into
Robert Kelley talks about the

659
00:42:46,650 --> 00:42:47,580
sharecropper movement.

660
00:42:47,610 --> 00:42:50,910
How did you get interested in
this topic? And as I mentioned,

661
00:42:50,910 --> 00:42:54,420
it is a sensitive topic, because
there are those for decades

662
00:42:54,420 --> 00:42:58,020
who've worked to tamp down the
suggestion that anybody in the

663
00:42:58,020 --> 00:43:00,480
civil rights movement was
attracted to the Communist Party

664
00:43:00,510 --> 00:43:01,050
at all.

665
00:43:01,410 --> 00:43:04,440
Exactly. And this is a story
that actually predates the civil

666
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:08,700
rights movement as we know it.
Going back to the 1930s. I

667
00:43:08,700 --> 00:43:13,050
became interested in this as a
doctoral dissertation back in

668
00:43:13,050 --> 00:43:17,130
the mid 80s, when I was very
active in a lot of social

669
00:43:17,130 --> 00:43:22,410
movements in actually in the LA
area. And I wanted to know, how

670
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:26,850
the communist party organized
African Americans, particularly

671
00:43:26,850 --> 00:43:31,470
in places where black people
were the majority. And there I

672
00:43:31,470 --> 00:43:34,980
discovered a very vibrant
movement that very few people

673
00:43:34,980 --> 00:43:39,270
wrote about that basically are
two stories, one memoir by a man

674
00:43:39,270 --> 00:43:42,660
named Jose Hudson. And then
another story in a book called

675
00:43:42,660 --> 00:43:45,690
all God's dangers, which is
about an African American

676
00:43:45,690 --> 00:43:46,470
sharecropper,

677
00:43:47,190 --> 00:43:49,140
dangerous, the life of Nate
Shaw. I remember that

678
00:43:49,170 --> 00:43:52,620
exactly, but his real name was
Ned Cobb, and he was a

679
00:43:52,620 --> 00:43:56,220
pseudonym. And it's a beautiful
book that tells his life story,

680
00:43:56,220 --> 00:44:00,600
only a portion of it deals with
his membership in the communist

681
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:04,440
led sharecroppers union, which
at one point, had about 12,000

682
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:08,790
members in the black belt
counties of Alabama,

683
00:44:08,850 --> 00:44:11,160
and we're all the members black.
Well,

684
00:44:11,580 --> 00:44:15,300
in Alabama, there was a point
when basically all the members

685
00:44:15,300 --> 00:44:19,110
except one were all African
American sharecroppers and

686
00:44:19,110 --> 00:44:19,950
tenant farmers.

687
00:44:22,470 --> 00:44:27,120
Well, I can see where all this
is headed. I love it. Um, see so

688
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:33,720
as this, the interviewer stated,
they there has been a concerted

689
00:44:33,750 --> 00:44:38,220
effort to tamp down this is her
words to tamp down the communist

690
00:44:38,220 --> 00:44:41,040
connection with the Civil Rights
Movement indeed, so this is

691
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:44,910
clear. This is clear
suppression. Yeah. And it's

692
00:44:44,910 --> 00:44:48,990
really not because they didn't
want to cover the story is they

693
00:44:48,990 --> 00:44:51,750
wanted to cover their tracks
because the media is in on this

694
00:44:51,750 --> 00:44:58,950
whole thing. You have media,
academia and some businesses

695
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:06,690
There are all in on pushing this
narrative. And as um wow.

696
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:10,770
I see the repeat coming. I see
the cycle for me this is this is

697
00:45:10,770 --> 00:45:12,690
very interesting. I like it.
Yeah.

698
00:45:13,049 --> 00:45:17,399
So as Robin Kelly also said
there was 12,000 members in

699
00:45:17,399 --> 00:45:22,289
Alabama alone all black. Yeah.
All black. So I mean, we this is

700
00:45:22,289 --> 00:45:26,549
speaks to how widespread it was.
And it predated the civil rights

701
00:45:26,549 --> 00:45:31,109
by like 30 years. So this is
nothing, this is nothing new. So

702
00:45:31,109 --> 00:45:35,879
you can see how Rosa Parks, she
was born into pretty much this

703
00:45:35,879 --> 00:45:39,719
environment of, of communism,
and it seems

704
00:45:39,720 --> 00:45:43,560
so appealing, obviously, if
you're a suppressed worker, or

705
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:46,230
you're black in the South Sea.
Yeah, I mean, I can totally

706
00:45:46,230 --> 00:45:47,790
Yeah, this sounds like a good
idea.

707
00:45:48,810 --> 00:45:52,260
That's why I made the statement
about the sharecroppers and

708
00:45:52,290 --> 00:45:56,130
their their prom target. Yep.
And not just because I think so,

709
00:45:56,430 --> 00:45:59,220
Moscow thought So start
thinking,

710
00:45:59,430 --> 00:46:02,280
how did the Communist Party get
started in Alabama,

711
00:46:02,759 --> 00:46:08,789
in 1928, the communists position
internationally was that African

712
00:46:08,789 --> 00:46:12,329
Americans in the South have the
right to self determination,

713
00:46:12,329 --> 00:46:15,689
meaning they have the right to
create their own nation in the

714
00:46:15,689 --> 00:46:20,909
South. In this position that
came out of Moscow, it came from

715
00:46:20,909 --> 00:46:26,189
other black communists around
the globe. And with that idea in

716
00:46:26,189 --> 00:46:30,269
mind, they sent two organizers
to Alabama, and they went to

717
00:46:30,269 --> 00:46:32,969
Birmingham. And it chose
Birmingham because it was

718
00:46:32,969 --> 00:46:37,859
probably the most industrialized
city in the south. And they went

719
00:46:37,859 --> 00:46:40,379
there thinking they would
organize white workers and from

720
00:46:40,379 --> 00:46:43,559
white workers, black workers
would follow, but no white

721
00:46:43,559 --> 00:46:47,489
workers who come forward. And so
the first two organizers was a

722
00:46:47,549 --> 00:46:52,499
guy named James Julio, who was a
Sicilian worker who had migrated

723
00:46:52,499 --> 00:46:56,369
to Alabama, and another guy
named Tom Johnson. And together,

724
00:46:56,969 --> 00:47:00,629
they went out looking for white
workers, and black workers came.

725
00:47:01,379 --> 00:47:04,319
And black workers came in fairly
large numbers right away.

726
00:47:04,739 --> 00:47:08,549
Because for them, they had a
memory of reconstruction and

727
00:47:08,549 --> 00:47:12,419
memory of the Civil War. And in
that kind of collective memory,

728
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:15,479
they were told that one day the
Yankees would come back and

729
00:47:15,479 --> 00:47:18,569
finish the fight. Or when they
saw these white communists, they

730
00:47:18,569 --> 00:47:21,119
said, Oh, good, the Yankees are
here. We can't wait to join.

731
00:47:21,300 --> 00:47:27,360
Wow, that's fantastic. What a
great clip. Oh, my goodness.

732
00:47:27,900 --> 00:47:33,870
So you have Moscow monitor
monitoring the black south. It's

733
00:47:35,220 --> 00:47:39,300
exactly what Trump and Russia
was accused of. Yeah, collusion.

734
00:47:40,260 --> 00:47:43,260
Right. It was Trump, he's
targeting black people because,

735
00:47:43,260 --> 00:47:46,350
you know, their distrust. And,
you know, the Russians are

736
00:47:47,310 --> 00:47:50,730
fomenting division with you
know, with these emails, these

737
00:47:50,730 --> 00:47:54,270
destructive emails and social
media post, bro.

738
00:47:54,870 --> 00:47:58,680
It's a cycle. It's a cycle. It's
a cycle, but it wasn't coming

739
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:01,380
from Russia, that's the problem
was out in the open, it's still

740
00:48:01,380 --> 00:48:02,130
out in the open.

741
00:48:02,819 --> 00:48:06,029
Right? And then you have the
black people thinking, well, if,

742
00:48:06,329 --> 00:48:09,209
if these are the people want to
put the bad white people in the

743
00:48:09,209 --> 00:48:13,379
south, and you have these
outsiders coming in, offering

744
00:48:13,379 --> 00:48:17,939
you what you perceive to be
better. Well, so So basically,

745
00:48:18,059 --> 00:48:18,989
like a better deal.

746
00:48:19,020 --> 00:48:22,020
So just to summarize, before the
Civil Rights Movement well,

747
00:48:22,020 --> 00:48:25,620
before it, our black brothers
and sisters were sucked into a

748
00:48:25,620 --> 00:48:31,380
communist trap. Which they seem
to still be caught in only it

749
00:48:31,380 --> 00:48:33,000
goes by different names. Now.

750
00:48:33,540 --> 00:48:39,660
It's, it's not the same, you
know, we get, we get sucked in,

751
00:48:39,660 --> 00:48:42,270
and then we'll find a way out,
and then they'll rebrand and we

752
00:48:42,270 --> 00:48:45,480
get sucked in again, from the
newer generation, and then we'll

753
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:48,150
fight our way out, and then we
get sucked out again, it's new

754
00:48:48,150 --> 00:48:52,950
code. It's like, this is the
third cycle of being sucked into

755
00:48:52,980 --> 00:48:54,270
communist mindset.

756
00:48:54,299 --> 00:48:59,249
Yes. Wow, this is so good. I
don't see why people go to

757
00:48:59,249 --> 00:49:01,709
school to learn this stuff. You
could just listen to a podcast.

758
00:49:02,639 --> 00:49:06,659
Right? Before what was the name
of the guy who was really the

759
00:49:06,659 --> 00:49:09,359
speech writer behind Martin
Luther King, who recently got a

760
00:49:09,359 --> 00:49:13,829
commendation from Congress was
just named the gay guy who got

761
00:49:13,829 --> 00:49:16,949
caught. They know they are
resting. That's right. Okay, cuz

762
00:49:16,949 --> 00:49:18,599
I was trying to tell somebody
the other day.

763
00:49:19,410 --> 00:49:22,800
Oh, he's got he's gonna make an
appearance. In today's show.

764
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:24,660
Nice. Nice. Nice. Okay, good.

765
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:29,820
So we have, let's see, we start
with 13. Okay, let's get right

766
00:49:29,850 --> 00:49:30,750
right into 14.

767
00:49:30,990 --> 00:49:35,430
What was the Communist Party's
message at that time? And why

768
00:49:35,430 --> 00:49:37,590
were these black folks so
attracted to it?

769
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:42,750
Well, there were three things.
They focused on one, because it

770
00:49:42,750 --> 00:49:45,690
was during the Great Depression.
Their primary focus is the

771
00:49:45,690 --> 00:49:50,490
unemployed. And so their demands
were, we want either work or

772
00:49:50,490 --> 00:49:54,300
some kind of support from the
government. The second thing was

773
00:49:54,330 --> 00:49:58,800
in 1931, you had the famous
Scottsboro case when nine young

774
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:02,640
black men were arrested. falsely
for raping two white women and

775
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:06,840
they end up going to jail. Well,
these cases happen all the time

776
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:10,350
where black men are falsely
accused. The difference was at

777
00:50:10,350 --> 00:50:13,230
the Communist Party made the
Scottsboro issue an

778
00:50:13,260 --> 00:50:17,760
international issue. They put it
in the newspapers, they spread

779
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:21,510
the word all over the globe in
different languages. And these

780
00:50:21,570 --> 00:50:24,960
unknown figures suddenly became
a kind of cost celeb. And

781
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:28,860
finally, the third thing was
basic civil rights. The right to

782
00:50:28,860 --> 00:50:32,370
vote, the right to sit on
juries, you know, the right to

783
00:50:32,370 --> 00:50:36,900
not be Jim Crow segregated.
These things certainly drew out

784
00:50:37,170 --> 00:50:37,830
black working

785
00:50:37,830 --> 00:50:42,990
people. Yeah, fantastic. Made
that makes so much sense.

786
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:46,200
They use the same taxes as
they've used today, this

787
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:50,070
floating of criminal cases with
propaganda all around the world.

788
00:50:50,700 --> 00:50:55,950
And for the gain of the cost for
the game for the Communist

789
00:50:55,950 --> 00:50:56,220
Party.

790
00:50:56,250 --> 00:50:59,610
Well, what they figured out, I
guess, is that, hey, we can do

791
00:50:59,610 --> 00:51:03,900
this trick with any marginalized
group. Just tell people hey, are

792
00:51:03,900 --> 00:51:06,900
you this Are you that we can do
the same thing for you? That's

793
00:51:06,900 --> 00:51:09,360
the that's what's happened is
the expansion of that.

794
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:14,910
Right, and their reaction is so
visceral to black racial issues.

795
00:51:14,970 --> 00:51:19,650
Yes. Because you know, it's,
it's hag alien. The black

796
00:51:19,650 --> 00:51:24,030
against the white, you know, um,
so it feeds right into it. Um,

797
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:31,110
so I found this interesting set
of clips next, and this is Mr.

798
00:51:31,830 --> 00:51:37,260
Leonard Patterson. He's a black
man who exposes communism and

799
00:51:37,260 --> 00:51:39,090
explains why he was a communist.

800
00:51:39,450 --> 00:51:42,930
the spoken word library
presents, I trained in Moscow

801
00:51:42,930 --> 00:51:47,280
for black rebels in a lecture by
Leonard Patterson. Cool. Mr.

802
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:50,970
Patterson joined the Communist
Party in Philadelphia in 1928.

803
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:54,270
He rose rapidly through the
ranks went to Moscow for

804
00:51:54,270 --> 00:51:57,360
advanced training along with
such well known party officials

805
00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:01,260
as Steve Nelson, Benjamin get
low and Claude Lightfoot. In

806
00:52:01,260 --> 00:52:04,680
fact, while in Russia, he was
the roommate of Gus Hall later

807
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:09,270
to become head of the Communist
Party USA. Leonard Patterson was

808
00:52:09,270 --> 00:52:12,690
no small time operator within
the movement. He was a member of

809
00:52:12,690 --> 00:52:15,210
the National Committee and
National Bureau of the Young

810
00:52:15,210 --> 00:52:18,270
Communist League, a member of
the Central Committee of the

811
00:52:18,270 --> 00:52:21,570
Negro commission, and chairman
of the International Negro

812
00:52:21,570 --> 00:52:25,530
commission of the Communist
International. He organized and

813
00:52:25,530 --> 00:52:29,220
led picket lines, strikes, goon
squads, and riots, all in

814
00:52:29,220 --> 00:52:32,550
accordance with orders from
party headquarters. He was an

815
00:52:32,550 --> 00:52:35,970
active and effective communist
propagandist, not only in the

816
00:52:35,970 --> 00:52:40,860
United States, but also in
Russia and Germany as well. Mr.

817
00:52:40,860 --> 00:52:44,250
Patterson left the Communist
Party, when he finally realized

818
00:52:44,250 --> 00:52:47,940
it wasn't honestly interested in
helping negros that it was just

819
00:52:47,940 --> 00:52:52,140
using him and his people as
cannon fodder to create hatred

820
00:52:52,170 --> 00:52:56,070
and violence. And that the goal
of the communist movement was

821
00:52:56,070 --> 00:52:57,990
the enslavement of all peoples.

822
00:52:59,550 --> 00:53:03,600
Oh, man, and my mind is just
wandering as I'm thinking about

823
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:06,540
that. Do you think it's possible
that later when J. Edgar Hoover

824
00:53:06,990 --> 00:53:11,130
came up in the FBI and knowing
that he was essentially passing

825
00:53:11,130 --> 00:53:18,090
black man, that his his that his
search to root out communism was

826
00:53:18,090 --> 00:53:23,160
in any way related to
suppressing his race?

827
00:53:27,750 --> 00:53:33,630
I can see, I can see one of two
ways. He could say, Okay, I'll

828
00:53:33,630 --> 00:53:38,760
use communism as an excuse to
suppress my way race to cover

829
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:42,660
for myself passing. So no one
would ever think to look at me

830
00:53:42,660 --> 00:53:47,460
that way. Right? Or I can see
being a so called black man

831
00:53:47,970 --> 00:53:51,960
growing up in the South, maybe
he realized communism was a

832
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:53,130
major problem,

833
00:53:53,190 --> 00:53:54,810
and then wanted to destroy this.

834
00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:58,920
Right? I mean, you could look at
it both ways. You could look at

835
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:02,880
it both ways. It gets out of the
man's head. No, but you can you

836
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:06,780
can slice it both ways. Because
really, he was really on the

837
00:54:06,780 --> 00:54:12,630
heels of communism, and that
there was a great overlap

838
00:54:12,630 --> 00:54:18,540
between that and the civil
rights. I don't know. Um, but in

839
00:54:18,540 --> 00:54:22,110
this last clip, Leonard
Patterson says, he realized we

840
00:54:22,110 --> 00:54:24,900
were being used for cannon
fodder. Yeah, I think a lot of

841
00:54:24,900 --> 00:54:28,290
what people are saying now and
today is like Black Lives

842
00:54:28,290 --> 00:54:32,100
Matter, it just using us. It's
totally cannon fodder. Yes. And

843
00:54:32,100 --> 00:54:35,550
that and even Patrisse Cullors
admitted to that, that black

844
00:54:35,550 --> 00:54:38,130
people, I mean, let me get her
go correct. And what she says

845
00:54:38,130 --> 00:54:42,300
she says black sis men are not
the sum of black people. So even

846
00:54:42,300 --> 00:54:46,650
though they use this as, you
know, their motivation for what

847
00:54:46,650 --> 00:54:52,110
they're doing, they don't want
to change things for us. And let

848
00:54:52,110 --> 00:54:53,280
me just also say just

849
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:56,700
reiterate that because just want
to make sure it's understood.

850
00:54:57,810 --> 00:55:03,030
Using black men at As the reason
for this refers to just, I don't

851
00:55:03,030 --> 00:55:06,390
know, maybe she doesn't need to
explaining. It's black men that

852
00:55:06,390 --> 00:55:08,970
are being killed. It's black men
that are being arrested. It's

853
00:55:08,970 --> 00:55:13,020
it's all it's always a black
man. So, you know, and but yet

854
00:55:13,050 --> 00:55:15,870
you don't really get to be at
the party,

855
00:55:16,020 --> 00:55:19,590
this is black man to shut up,
shut up and get killed, or shut

856
00:55:19,590 --> 00:55:23,160
out and be muscle when we need
you to be or, you know, it's

857
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:27,480
always just be what you need,
what we need you to be. And

858
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:33,450
that's that's the new new wave
that they have gone. And one

859
00:55:33,450 --> 00:55:36,630
last thing he said he even
mentioned himself, this slave of

860
00:55:36,630 --> 00:55:40,260
all people this goes back to
collectivism, right, that he

861
00:55:40,260 --> 00:55:44,340
really realized, like how long
we had it back to slavery here.

862
00:55:44,850 --> 00:55:49,320
Just take my word for it. We
actually have a clip from

863
00:55:50,070 --> 00:55:52,170
Leonard Patterson, in 16.

864
00:55:53,490 --> 00:56:01,020
I am Leonard paddock. When I was
a young man, only 23 years old,

865
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:07,140
I joined the Communist Party. I
was a member of the National

866
00:56:07,140 --> 00:56:11,190
Executive Committee of the
American Young Communist League.

867
00:56:12,180 --> 00:56:18,120
And 1930. I was official
Congress candidate for election

868
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:23,790
to New York State Assembly. I
knew Gus Hall, and other top

869
00:56:23,790 --> 00:56:29,610
rank of American Communist
farewell. Because I trained with

870
00:56:29,610 --> 00:56:36,090
them at 11 unit University in
Moscow. I joined the party

871
00:56:36,090 --> 00:56:40,830
because I honestly thought
because we're trying to help

872
00:56:40,830 --> 00:56:47,130
American Negro broke away from
the party. When it became clear

873
00:56:47,130 --> 00:56:52,410
to me, what it comes we're
really up to was to use the

874
00:56:52,410 --> 00:56:56,280
Negro people in this country,
and a violent and bloody

875
00:56:56,280 --> 00:57:03,690
revolution aimed at this 1000 of
American Soviet dictatorship. It

876
00:57:03,690 --> 00:57:08,490
was that simple. And just still
that simple today, make no

877
00:57:08,490 --> 00:57:12,780
mistake about it. What is
happening in the United States

878
00:57:12,780 --> 00:57:17,460
right now, under the banner of
civil rights, is exactly what

879
00:57:17,460 --> 00:57:23,220
had happened in China, and Cuba,
Nigeria, and many other places

880
00:57:23,220 --> 00:57:24,210
around the world.

881
00:57:25,410 --> 00:57:27,990
Like ringing bell, my head's
exploding here. I was just

882
00:57:27,990 --> 00:57:30,630
looking at his Wikipedia page,
it will be in the show notes.

883
00:57:32,070 --> 00:57:37,140
Wow, this guy is fantastic. What
a what a great guy. 30s. We're

884
00:57:37,140 --> 00:57:42,060
talking Yeah, holy crap. This is
great. All his papers are

885
00:57:42,060 --> 00:57:47,670
Howard University. I think this
was a great example of one of

886
00:57:47,670 --> 00:57:51,570
the sharecroppers mentality that
these communists are here to

887
00:57:51,570 --> 00:57:57,780
help us. And when you really
understand the ideology, it's

888
00:57:57,930 --> 00:58:02,220
always gonna be losers. It's
always gonna be losers in every

889
00:58:02,220 --> 00:58:07,980
system. And take take the man's
word for it. It's not like he

890
00:58:07,980 --> 00:58:11,130
was, you know, I mean, we hear
that right from the horse's

891
00:58:11,130 --> 00:58:19,470
mouth. So I think we talked
about he will be considered the

892
00:58:19,470 --> 00:58:23,700
first wave in the recent event,
that people on the ground

893
00:58:25,020 --> 00:58:32,130
getting it all round up bringing
attention in using propaganda to

894
00:58:32,130 --> 00:58:37,290
draw attention to the you know,
a case like this, Mike,

895
00:58:37,470 --> 00:58:40,290
George floors will be black ink
of the day, getting getting

896
00:58:40,290 --> 00:58:40,680
started.

897
00:58:41,130 --> 00:58:45,660
But he's first wave, he's first
way wouldn't be the second way,

898
00:58:45,660 --> 00:58:49,440
which is the provocateur. He's
the criminal element, he's the

899
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:50,220
first wave, we'll

900
00:58:50,220 --> 00:58:52,110
call them the proxy, the proxy,

901
00:58:52,500 --> 00:58:58,320
right. So let's listen to how
they will operate then and even

902
00:58:58,320 --> 00:59:01,290
how similar it sounds to now,
when I was

903
00:59:01,290 --> 00:59:09,720
getting comments in my mind, and
body of using honest grievances,

904
00:59:10,140 --> 00:59:16,530
and smokescreen, to cover up the
true nature of the revolution.

905
00:59:17,370 --> 00:59:21,270
We're taught how to use
propaganda, around the most not

906
00:59:21,270 --> 00:59:26,610
a massive one group against each
other. And to make them hate

907
00:59:26,610 --> 00:59:31,320
each other. We learn this
intensity of having martyrs and

908
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:35,100
we weren't even allowed to
create our own market. The veg

909
00:59:35,100 --> 00:59:41,190
did not result from that and we
were getting large masses of

910
00:59:41,190 --> 00:59:46,590
people and to do street marches
and demonstrations. And finally,

911
00:59:47,250 --> 00:59:51,240
we weren't struggling way to
figure out right, and make them

912
00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:57,150
spread and to keep them going.
When I returned to Georgia

913
00:59:57,150 --> 01:00:02,070
State, I was gonna give them
practical plaintiffs participate

914
01:00:02,070 --> 01:00:05,220
in so called non violent
demonstrations. Several

915
01:00:05,220 --> 01:00:10,950
deliberately calculated white
people enter violence against

916
01:00:10,950 --> 01:00:11,220
us.

917
01:00:11,670 --> 01:00:18,990
Wow. Here's what he basically
said we are trained Marxists.

918
01:00:22,050 --> 01:00:29,340
Wow, I love that. That's good.
But uh, Jim, I hadn't heard of

919
01:00:29,340 --> 01:00:32,310
William L. Patterson. What a gem
of a guy. He's written a lot of

920
01:00:32,310 --> 01:00:32,910
books.

921
01:00:33,810 --> 01:00:39,990
He sent us on his grievances and
popular slogans. So check back

922
01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:47,310
set one group against another
with hatred, check, and how to

923
01:00:47,310 --> 01:00:52,230
kick off riots and get people to
the streets check. Wow, sounds

924
01:00:52,230 --> 01:00:53,460
like the same playbook to me.

925
01:00:53,790 --> 01:00:57,600
There is no before Yeah. Oh man.
It's beautiful. So now we

926
01:00:57,600 --> 01:01:02,130
have the question ourselves is
this playbook, hag alien, a

927
01:01:02,130 --> 01:01:02,940
hegemony

928
01:01:03,450 --> 01:01:07,590
and that you and the bubble
around you, or what bar do calls

929
01:01:07,620 --> 01:01:11,130
the habitus and the habitus
provides us with a way to

930
01:01:11,130 --> 01:01:16,560
measure and gauge where you are,
and the network of culture. This

931
01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:19,920
network in turn, which is made
up of millions of little

932
01:01:20,070 --> 01:01:23,610
habitats, Bubbles, is the
overall mechanism which decides

933
01:01:23,610 --> 01:01:27,150
the course of political economic
and cultural action. For

934
01:01:27,150 --> 01:01:29,910
example, if the collective
habitats of a particular group

935
01:01:29,910 --> 01:01:32,790
is fashioned appropriately, then
you can predict how that group

936
01:01:32,790 --> 01:01:36,090
will act towards another group,
say by teaching one group to

937
01:01:36,090 --> 01:01:38,790
hate the word terrorist, and
then labeling another group of

938
01:01:38,790 --> 01:01:43,410
terrorists. You can now control
how both groups will act. This

939
01:01:43,740 --> 01:01:44,610
is hegemony.

940
01:01:47,610 --> 01:01:51,900
Yeah, and I say hegemony
hegemony, excuse me, but this is

941
01:01:51,900 --> 01:01:57,450
a term used in Cultural Marxism.
Yeah. Yeah, so, it really is the

942
01:01:57,450 --> 01:02:01,890
head of Galleon dialectic,
right? I mean, you play one side

943
01:02:01,890 --> 01:02:04,260
against the other for a desired
outcome. Yes,

944
01:02:04,260 --> 01:02:07,140
you have problem reaction
solution? Correct.

945
01:02:08,100 --> 01:02:10,950
Let me get back to Mr. Linder
Patterson. And he's going to

946
01:02:10,950 --> 01:02:13,170
talk about being in the streets

947
01:02:13,830 --> 01:02:18,840
in New York about 1935 and
nigral boiler in Florida killed

948
01:02:19,380 --> 01:02:22,800
by going to the store, rather
than the actual students of

949
01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:26,520
merchandise. Communist Party
headquarters decide to marry

950
01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:31,500
Martin's boy. So we went right
to work pretty loud handbills.

951
01:02:33,210 --> 01:02:36,960
And less than I have our after
we started that was a race run.

952
01:02:38,490 --> 01:02:43,980
completely smashed on wonders of
Whitestone looting the rest. Not

953
01:02:43,980 --> 01:02:47,820
picking a bank I read about visa
bank I've personally

954
01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:56,700
participated in the US arouse
emotion on a massive one group

955
01:02:56,700 --> 01:03:00,900
against the other and to make
them hate each other. We learn

956
01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:06,180
to have in mind Martin, and
we're even going to create a bed

957
01:03:06,180 --> 01:03:09,540
getting automatically result
from the atmosphere of hatred.

958
01:03:10,080 --> 01:03:13,410
I love this. So they back then
they were just sitting around

959
01:03:13,410 --> 01:03:16,950
waiting for something to happen.
Boom, martyr that kid. Okay.

960
01:03:17,010 --> 01:03:20,520
Same thing. Oh, yes. We don't
have to leave the house. You sit

961
01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:22,080
on the online look at Twitter.

962
01:03:22,770 --> 01:03:25,530
Right but they were using the
same same tactics because they

963
01:03:25,530 --> 01:03:28,590
can handle deals are basically
handouts. So it's their

964
01:03:28,590 --> 01:03:31,860
handouts. You have social media
posts, right? Getting people

965
01:03:31,860 --> 01:03:36,750
motivated. So saying the same
exact tactics. I want to go back

966
01:03:36,750 --> 01:03:39,000
to hedge money right quick
because one point I wanted to

967
01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:44,490
make, and this is not only with
race, oh, people had to be aware

968
01:03:44,490 --> 01:03:49,500
of when they're getting sucked
in until a war Yeah. Where this

969
01:03:49,500 --> 01:03:55,530
race, gender or generation days
or three fronts that these wars

970
01:03:55,530 --> 01:03:58,620
are being fought on right now.
We dispatch our shows

971
01:03:58,680 --> 01:04:02,880
specifically speaks really to
race and common gender, but even

972
01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:06,450
with the Boulay I mean you have
the boomers and you have the

973
01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:10,440
millennials well that that in
the ratio itself as well

974
01:04:10,470 --> 01:04:13,560
it's also an overarching and I
think that's what's been done so

975
01:04:13,560 --> 01:04:16,740
expertly well throughout
throughout time, is you just

976
01:04:16,740 --> 01:04:21,870
boil it down to red and blue.
That and then all these groups

977
01:04:21,870 --> 01:04:25,680
fit in red and all these groups
fit in blue and that's the meta

978
01:04:25,680 --> 01:04:29,490
conduct the meta system up at
top which makes it a lot easier

979
01:04:29,550 --> 01:04:31,950
and you can always break down
and target your little groups

980
01:04:31,950 --> 01:04:33,510
underneath with their own little
issue.

981
01:04:34,740 --> 01:04:37,740
Yeah, and then you can also
divide it as we've seen here,

982
01:04:38,460 --> 01:04:43,470
one group you can you can slice
and dice in terms of you can say

983
01:04:43,470 --> 01:04:46,920
okay, now we got black against
white. Let's turn the blacks

984
01:04:46,920 --> 01:04:51,810
against the blacks. So now you
got demand against the woman

985
01:04:51,810 --> 01:04:54,240
right, you got the boomer
against the millennial. I mean,

986
01:04:54,240 --> 01:04:56,730
if what you're hearing now is
right, that's right. You hear a

987
01:04:56,730 --> 01:05:00,060
lot of the boomers saying and it
seemed Molinos saying what The

988
01:05:00,060 --> 01:05:01,230
Boomers dropped the ball.

989
01:05:01,410 --> 01:05:06,090
So so really identity politics
is just a code word for Marxism.

990
01:05:06,510 --> 01:05:10,680
Correct? Yep. And then it starts
to splinter out into his own

991
01:05:10,680 --> 01:05:14,670
specific forms. As we talked
about cultural Marxism. They're

992
01:05:14,670 --> 01:05:17,070
also a thing called Black
Marxism.

993
01:05:17,310 --> 01:05:20,280
Now black boxes have appeared
justice struggles against racial

994
01:05:20,280 --> 01:05:25,650
capitalism, war, and patriarchy
were actually ramping up in the

995
01:05:25,830 --> 01:05:30,570
1980s, in the global economic
slump, like the 70s, had opened

996
01:05:30,570 --> 01:05:34,440
the door for an expansion of
neoliberal policies already

997
01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:37,680
being implemented in the global
south. So the economic crisis

998
01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:40,740
has also opened the door for
privatizing public assets, for

999
01:05:40,740 --> 01:05:43,920
the devolution of the welfare
state from prison expansion,

1000
01:05:44,070 --> 01:05:47,790
making tax codes that benefit
the rich. And again, this is not

1001
01:05:47,790 --> 01:05:53,520
a Republican strategy. This is,
you know, it's like every party,

1002
01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:57,210
every ruling party in the United
States from the 1970s,

1003
01:05:57,600 --> 01:06:01,230
consistently supported
neoliberal policies. And in

1004
01:06:01,230 --> 01:06:04,830
fact, the triumph of racial
liberalism can be said, help

1005
01:06:04,830 --> 01:06:08,820
usher in the rise of mass
incarceration, and the deepening

1006
01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:12,990
criminalization of urban space
in the post world war two

1007
01:06:12,990 --> 01:06:21,120
period. Now, we know now that
liberals also back and expanding

1008
01:06:21,120 --> 01:06:24,390
criminal justice system, you
know, ostensibly to protect

1009
01:06:24,390 --> 01:06:27,810
African Americans from mob
violence but and to address what

1010
01:06:27,810 --> 01:06:31,350
was perceived to be rising crime
rates, following desegregation,

1011
01:06:31,350 --> 01:06:35,730
but as a consequence, liberals,
not just conservatives helped

1012
01:06:35,730 --> 01:06:38,940
create the criminal justice
architecture that fueled mass

1013
01:06:38,940 --> 01:06:39,810
incarceration.

1014
01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:42,660
This is the world

1015
01:06:43,890 --> 01:06:48,060
that young activists inherited
the ones that we're dealing with

1016
01:06:48,060 --> 01:06:49,290
today, the inheritance world.

1017
01:06:50,610 --> 01:06:56,250
Wow. I've heard you made mention
before and like in the 1980s,

1018
01:06:56,250 --> 01:07:01,530
the Democratic Party became more
of a party for businesses, well,

1019
01:07:01,530 --> 01:07:02,730
maybe not the businesses,

1020
01:07:03,030 --> 01:07:06,780
I would say the 90s with the
Clintons, the Clintons decided

1021
01:07:06,780 --> 01:07:11,850
to fundraise instead of from
unions necessarily, really went,

1022
01:07:12,390 --> 01:07:14,850
they went all corporatist. And
that, of course, is when China

1023
01:07:14,850 --> 01:07:19,560
also came into play another fine
Marxist slash communist partner

1024
01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:21,750
in this whole game, who's
already been mentioned in an

1025
01:07:21,750 --> 01:07:22,470
earlier clip.

1026
01:07:24,750 --> 01:07:29,580
So I think this is where the
special brand of Marxism called

1027
01:07:29,580 --> 01:07:33,300
Black Marxism had come about,
because you start seeing this

1028
01:07:33,300 --> 01:07:39,090
beef between the far left and
liberals right, which is right

1029
01:07:39,090 --> 01:07:44,160
of the far left. Yeah. They want
to be more become more corporate

1030
01:07:44,190 --> 01:07:49,950
focus. Party, and now they're
having to come back around and

1031
01:07:49,950 --> 01:07:53,100
why you see a Joe Biden that was
in the 70s. He was they went

1032
01:07:53,100 --> 01:07:56,520
away from compassion and
rehabilitation, to lock, lock

1033
01:07:56,520 --> 01:08:00,300
them up. I don't care how they
got there. Bring him to here

1034
01:08:00,300 --> 01:08:04,920
right. Now they've been bid to
the will of the Marxist saying,

1035
01:08:04,920 --> 01:08:08,190
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, you
still need us don't know ever

1036
01:08:08,190 --> 01:08:09,270
get it twisted, right?

1037
01:08:09,300 --> 01:08:12,930
And do it without us. And here's
how we do it. Watch this.

1038
01:08:13,380 --> 01:08:18,930
Right. And the corporation's are
activating the Marxist. Yeah. I

1039
01:08:18,930 --> 01:08:20,070
want to make this point clear

1040
01:08:20,070 --> 01:08:23,160
test. It's so beautiful. The
capitalist corporations are

1041
01:08:23,160 --> 01:08:27,270
activating and actively funding
the Marxists. Yes, this is a

1042
01:08:27,270 --> 01:08:29,580
genius. This is so smart.

1043
01:08:30,210 --> 01:08:33,660
Because this is corporate
warfare, even though a spot on

1044
01:08:33,660 --> 01:08:38,970
the streets is corporate
warfare. Because what represent

1045
01:08:38,970 --> 01:08:44,010
capitalism, white men,
specifically old white men, so

1046
01:08:44,010 --> 01:08:47,700
if you can get old white man to
be shamed, or removed from the

1047
01:08:47,700 --> 01:08:51,090
boards of directors, you can get
money, you can you can get the

1048
01:08:51,090 --> 01:08:54,510
older model. You can load up the
board of directors with whoever

1049
01:08:54,510 --> 01:08:56,610
you want to be seen as not.

1050
01:08:56,910 --> 01:09:00,720
Wow, that is something Kanye
said yesterday during his rally.

1051
01:09:01,260 --> 01:09:02,250
And I didn't even hear it.

1052
01:09:03,330 --> 01:09:06,750
He said, I'm on not on the board
of the gap. I'm not on the board

1053
01:09:06,750 --> 01:09:10,170
of Puma. We're changing that.
That's got to happen now right

1054
01:09:10,170 --> 01:09:13,410
now is what he said yesterday.
All right. Interesting.

1055
01:09:14,040 --> 01:09:18,930
So this is we're witnessing a I
think this is the response not

1056
01:09:18,930 --> 01:09:22,260
to get too far ahead of myself.
You know, we're in a trade war

1057
01:09:22,260 --> 01:09:26,160
right now. Yeah, I think this is
the response to the trade war,

1058
01:09:26,400 --> 01:09:29,430
but instead of being fought in
the board rooms in negotiating

1059
01:09:29,430 --> 01:09:36,360
rooms, they're fighting on the
streets of America. Wow. Yes,

1060
01:09:36,360 --> 01:09:39,900
no, that made me sound far
fetched. But that's that's what

1061
01:09:39,900 --> 01:09:40,500
I truly believe.

1062
01:09:40,650 --> 01:09:43,710
I got to get my head around that
but I like it. But there's

1063
01:09:46,170 --> 01:09:50,190
that's very interesting. Okay, I
got to think about that one.

1064
01:09:50,190 --> 01:09:50,730
That's a good one.

1065
01:09:52,529 --> 01:09:57,509
Think about it. But um, we'll
get to another expert on the

1066
01:09:57,509 --> 01:10:01,829
topic of black Marxism. This is
Bill Fletcher Jr. And he's also

1067
01:10:01,829 --> 01:10:02,909
a professor as well,

1068
01:10:03,180 --> 01:10:06,480
particularly, for example, on
the issue of race, and what has

1069
01:10:06,480 --> 01:10:10,710
been always called the national
economy all questions you had, I

1070
01:10:10,710 --> 01:10:15,990
believe, have profound influence
on Marxism, from Africa, from

1071
01:10:15,990 --> 01:10:21,150
Latin America from Asia, what
has always irritated me, in the

1072
01:10:21,150 --> 01:10:24,480
Black Freedom Movement is that
whenever I encountered someone

1073
01:10:24,720 --> 01:10:31,050
who says, well, Marxism is a
white man's theory. And, and

1074
01:10:31,050 --> 01:10:34,980
that's like absurd. Because when
you look at the contributions

1075
01:10:34,980 --> 01:10:38,730
that have been made to Marxism,
by people of African descent,

1076
01:10:39,240 --> 01:10:45,210
it's just simply amazing. I look
at Marxism as a theory of

1077
01:10:45,210 --> 01:10:53,310
emancipation. It is, it is a
framework for analyzing history,

1078
01:10:53,310 --> 01:10:58,710
analyzing society, and a method
of thinking. Now, one of the

1079
01:10:58,710 --> 01:11:02,940
problems that we faced was the
rise of post modernism, which I

1080
01:11:02,940 --> 01:11:09,510
would argue as has been a cancer
in the left and has taken people

1081
01:11:09,630 --> 01:11:14,310
beginning with in some ways,
accurate critiques of economic

1082
01:11:14,310 --> 01:11:20,940
determinism in Marxism. It then
has taken people in this

1083
01:11:22,080 --> 01:11:27,000
direction of almost
romanticizing defeat.

1084
01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:35,850
Wow. So So one point he made was
white Marxism is seen to be a

1085
01:11:35,850 --> 01:11:41,790
white man's theory. Yeah. But
he, in black Marxism, they want

1086
01:11:41,790 --> 01:11:46,290
to say that, no, no, no, no, no,
plenty of black people have

1087
01:11:46,320 --> 01:11:49,290
quote, unquote, black people who
have contributed to Marxism, and

1088
01:11:49,290 --> 01:11:54,690
we need our credit. Another
tenant of black Marxism is that

1089
01:11:55,260 --> 01:12:01,500
the white workers can't relate
to the grievances that the black

1090
01:12:01,500 --> 01:12:04,560
workers have different grievance
is their sheer, let's just call

1091
01:12:04,560 --> 01:12:07,200
it their so their sheer
whiteness, right? I'm sorry,

1092
01:12:07,200 --> 01:12:11,130
yes. There's no, you can't do
that. It's impossible. Yes.

1093
01:12:11,340 --> 01:12:15,540
Yeah. You can't identify with my
struggle, right? Because it's

1094
01:12:15,540 --> 01:12:20,640
different here. So that's why
you have this separation, even

1095
01:12:20,640 --> 01:12:24,930
within Marxism, black Marxism.
Is this whole, this whole thing

1096
01:12:24,960 --> 01:12:29,370
is a whole separate thing. I
just want to make people

1097
01:12:29,400 --> 01:12:32,070
right, but it doesn't, it
doesn't really differ other than

1098
01:12:32,730 --> 01:12:35,790
it's just the same basic
ideology, just with different

1099
01:12:35,790 --> 01:12:36,660
issues at hand.

1100
01:12:38,160 --> 01:12:39,960
It's just a Galeon. Dividing.

1101
01:12:41,430 --> 01:12:45,240
Division, of course, of course,
if we ever need to, we can pit

1102
01:12:45,240 --> 01:12:47,610
these two against each other
inside our own house. Yeah,

1103
01:12:47,640 --> 01:12:48,270
perfect.

1104
01:12:49,440 --> 01:12:51,480
Yeah, and that's what you have
now controlled.

1105
01:12:51,960 --> 01:12:54,000
Okay, of course, and I
understand. So you, then you

1106
01:12:54,000 --> 01:12:56,220
have two parties, you can
control them both because you

1107
01:12:56,220 --> 01:12:58,620
know the outcome and therefore
you control the whole bit

1108
01:12:58,620 --> 01:13:00,060
because it's all yours to start
with.

1109
01:13:00,570 --> 01:13:03,930
Right? Because you have black
lives matter or black ink. We

1110
01:13:03,930 --> 01:13:07,560
say that you have black ink
dragging and white layer Yes.

1111
01:13:07,560 --> 01:13:08,190
far though. And

1112
01:13:08,190 --> 01:13:11,160
we're already in we're already
seeing this on the streets.

1113
01:13:11,250 --> 01:13:14,310
Where's there's confusion? It's
being played against each other?

1114
01:13:14,700 --> 01:13:16,980
Oh, this is great. This is very,
very good.

1115
01:13:17,370 --> 01:13:23,310
So we have to understand all the
players in the game. Now so

1116
01:13:24,600 --> 01:13:28,440
first mission about the straight
this cisgendered black male.

1117
01:13:28,860 --> 01:13:33,840
Yeah, and we seen a so called
member of Black Lives Matter.

1118
01:13:33,840 --> 01:13:38,370
Rise up name halt. Newsom, have
you seen Newsom before Adam?

1119
01:13:38,700 --> 01:13:40,830
No, I don't think so. We're what
I've seen him

1120
01:13:41,430 --> 01:13:46,050
okay Hawk Newsom he you've seen
him I was assumed but you

1121
01:13:46,050 --> 01:13:49,380
probably just didn't recognize
them. tall black guy wears black

1122
01:13:49,380 --> 01:13:52,740
shades bald head. And the funny
thing is he kind of looks like

1123
01:13:52,740 --> 01:13:56,070
hot from Spitzer for hire, which
which Oh,

1124
01:13:56,070 --> 01:13:59,820
really now which we just talked
him on a lot. Yeah.

1125
01:14:00,510 --> 01:14:03,360
We spoke about him on last show
and I looked at him again I was

1126
01:14:03,360 --> 01:14:07,470
like how wrong he is almost the
you know this.

1127
01:14:08,640 --> 01:14:11,520
Oh, yeah, no, I've seen this guy
know who he is. I'm looking at

1128
01:14:11,520 --> 01:14:14,460
him now Hawk Newsom okay, yes, I
got it. I know he's names

1129
01:14:14,460 --> 01:14:16,770
halt. The other game guys name
halt.

1130
01:14:18,840 --> 01:14:20,820
That's some programming right
there, huh?

1131
01:14:21,000 --> 01:14:26,100
I would think so. But let's get
into the clip of hot new sumo

1132
01:14:26,100 --> 01:14:28,290
reforming law enforcement in the
black community.

1133
01:14:28,410 --> 01:14:31,860
Protesters in American streets
are calling for the country to

1134
01:14:31,860 --> 01:14:35,880
address our racial tensions,
both current inequities and

1135
01:14:35,880 --> 01:14:40,320
contentious symbols of America's
past. But how to do that is a

1136
01:14:40,320 --> 01:14:43,500
key question. For one
perspective. Let's begin with

1137
01:14:43,500 --> 01:14:48,300
Hawk Newsom, head of Black Lives
Matter writer in New York. Mr.

1138
01:14:48,300 --> 01:14:52,020
Newsome you created quite a stir
this week when you spoke with my

1139
01:14:52,020 --> 01:14:54,450
colleague Martha McCallum. Let's
take a look at what she has

1140
01:14:54,450 --> 01:14:54,810
said.

1141
01:14:55,530 --> 01:14:59,400
If this country doesn't give us
what we want, then we will end

1142
01:14:59,400 --> 01:15:03,150
down this History and replace
it. All right and I can be

1143
01:15:03,150 --> 01:15:06,480
speaking physically,
figuratively, I can be speaking

1144
01:15:06,480 --> 01:15:09,030
literally it's a matter of
interpretation.

1145
01:15:10,920 --> 01:15:14,310
Afterward, President Trump
tweeted his reaction to your

1146
01:15:14,310 --> 01:15:18,930
statement. This is treason,
sedition, insurrection.

1147
01:15:19,470 --> 01:15:23,730
Question, sir. What do you
accomplish with rhetoric like

1148
01:15:23,730 --> 01:15:25,170
that? How do you think that
helps?

1149
01:15:26,850 --> 01:15:33,360
Well, here's the thing. A lot of
people don't understand how the

1150
01:15:33,360 --> 01:15:38,340
streets or the people feel. I
have a in depth knowledge of

1151
01:15:38,340 --> 01:15:41,400
this. I live in the Bronx, I
live amongst the people. So it's

1152
01:15:41,400 --> 01:15:44,640
not like I'm sitting here
pushing a button or anyone can

1153
01:15:44,640 --> 01:15:47,880
push that button. But if people
keep seeing these images of

1154
01:15:47,880 --> 01:15:51,540
their babies of their relatives
of black people being killed,

1155
01:15:51,750 --> 01:15:56,490
they keep dealing with financial
inequality and an equity and it

1156
01:15:56,490 --> 01:16:01,020
reaches a point of frustration,
then people lash out this is a

1157
01:16:01,020 --> 01:16:05,160
matter of inevitability that
people will lash out because

1158
01:16:05,160 --> 01:16:07,950
they're feeling like they're
backed into a corner.

1159
01:16:08,400 --> 01:16:11,910
Okay, yes, I remember this quote
I remember seeing it thinking

1160
01:16:11,910 --> 01:16:15,240
hmm gotta look into that and
something else happened but from

1161
01:16:15,240 --> 01:16:19,260
it from his Wikipedia page so
the hawk similar similarity

1162
01:16:20,790 --> 01:16:24,630
doesn't end there as a cast
member on cop watch America.

1163
01:16:25,710 --> 01:16:29,940
So he he plays it basically use
the word now he played the it

1164
01:16:29,940 --> 01:16:34,980
was actually a reality type
series, where they did what the

1165
01:16:34,980 --> 01:16:37,800
black what they did with the
Black Panthers did they would

1166
01:16:37,800 --> 01:16:40,890
basically go out and record
cops, oh, interactive.

1167
01:16:41,970 --> 01:16:49,920
But now but here, but here we
have a statement from from the

1168
01:16:49,920 --> 01:16:53,130
managing director of Black Lives
Matter global network. So that

1169
01:16:53,130 --> 01:16:56,550
is black ink, says Hank Newsom
has no relation to the Black

1170
01:16:56,550 --> 01:16:59,220
Lives Matter global network
founded by Patrice colors,

1171
01:16:59,220 --> 01:17:03,690
Alicia Garza and Opal tomasetti.
And is not the president of BLM

1172
01:17:03,690 --> 01:17:05,250
or any of its chapters.

1173
01:17:06,660 --> 01:17:12,060
So he's, he's fake, but he's
fake black ink. Yeah. And they

1174
01:17:12,060 --> 01:17:15,690
use this as opportunity to demo
demonize him, and

1175
01:17:15,720 --> 01:17:18,420
oh, and he goes in and says,
We're gonna burn it down. We're

1176
01:17:18,420 --> 01:17:19,230
horrible.

1177
01:17:19,740 --> 01:17:23,040
Right? But that's bad for
business. Yes. They're in the

1178
01:17:23,040 --> 01:17:26,700
same position that Rosa Parks
has to be in. Oh, we can't be

1179
01:17:26,700 --> 01:17:30,990
close to the violence, you know,
the course, is bad for the

1180
01:17:30,990 --> 01:17:31,470
brand,

1181
01:17:31,500 --> 01:17:34,110
right. That's why we didn't see
him anymore. He's got he's gone.

1182
01:17:34,140 --> 01:17:36,000
He's gone. I haven't seen him
yet.

1183
01:17:36,420 --> 01:17:39,810
Actually, this was done on Fox
News. So that was the only place

1184
01:17:39,810 --> 01:17:44,160
you could find that that will
even bring him on to make let

1185
01:17:44,160 --> 01:17:45,420
him clarify his statement.

1186
01:17:45,450 --> 01:17:47,910
And don't think that you don't
underestimate that as a

1187
01:17:47,910 --> 01:17:48,750
coincidence.

1188
01:17:49,260 --> 01:17:52,380
I was not I mean, he's a
knockoff. He's a knockoff Black

1189
01:17:52,380 --> 01:17:55,770
Lives Matter. So like now, we
only want the real McCoy with

1190
01:17:55,770 --> 01:18:03,090
Fox News. Us. Thank you use him
to spin their narrative, right.

1191
01:18:03,090 --> 01:18:03,450
And

1192
01:18:03,840 --> 01:18:07,560
which was horrible, because he's
spun the wrong narrative. So I'm

1193
01:18:07,560 --> 01:18:09,420
just saying that groups
everywhere

1194
01:18:09,660 --> 01:18:12,840
is a two for one, you get to
call them out as fate fate black

1195
01:18:12,870 --> 01:18:16,020
ink. And then they also could
demonize this black male as

1196
01:18:16,020 --> 01:18:16,620
being violent.

1197
01:18:16,680 --> 01:18:21,600
Yes. Fantastic. What a great,
great decoy and he's gone. He's

1198
01:18:21,630 --> 01:18:23,160
they probably locked him in the
freezer.

1199
01:18:24,180 --> 01:18:28,620
Either here. So I guess we can
get into 2.1 When Mr. Newsome

1200
01:18:28,830 --> 01:18:35,370
but just two years ago, back in
2018, you gave a TED talk, in

1201
01:18:35,370 --> 01:18:39,000
which you preach nonviolence and
talked about how during the

1202
01:18:39,000 --> 01:18:43,080
riots in Baltimore, over the
death of Freddie Gray, you tried

1203
01:18:43,080 --> 01:18:46,230
to stop the violence. I'm going
to play a clip of you from just

1204
01:18:46,230 --> 01:18:47,010
two years ago.

1205
01:18:48,510 --> 01:18:53,310
Do you have love in your hearts?
Do you love your neighbor? Do

1206
01:18:53,310 --> 01:18:58,590
you believe in the Bible? The
Quran? Do you believe in your

1207
01:18:58,590 --> 01:19:02,070
religious teachings because I
guarantee you all of them tell

1208
01:19:02,070 --> 01:19:05,220
you to help your neighbor?

1209
01:19:07,470 --> 01:19:11,640
That man wouldn't have talked
about working to burn down the

1210
01:19:11,640 --> 01:19:12,780
system. What happened?

1211
01:19:16,740 --> 01:19:20,070
Let me tell you what happened.
Let me let me ask you that, Mr.

1212
01:19:23,310 --> 01:19:30,180
One, this guy after the whole
first round 2015 2016 He started

1213
01:19:30,180 --> 01:19:33,270
meeting with Trump supporters
and he was on stage and do a TED

1214
01:19:33,270 --> 01:19:40,170
talks in the middle of the rose
dance. Yeah. Then after George

1215
01:19:40,170 --> 01:19:42,810
Floyd, he was radicalized. Yeah.

1216
01:19:44,160 --> 01:19:46,920
New, new script. All right,
let's go

1217
01:19:47,100 --> 01:19:49,860
and we saw the same
radicalisation is with Nick

1218
01:19:49,860 --> 01:19:53,610
Cannon which we're going to save
for a later date to talk about

1219
01:19:53,610 --> 01:19:57,510
on this show. But can we get a
cancellation cannon? Castle

1220
01:19:57,510 --> 01:19:58,890
cannon for Nick Cannon please
got it.

1221
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:05,850
Welcome and cancelled, he is.
Yeah, he's

1222
01:20:05,850 --> 01:20:11,880
out here. What happens here is
when they start to radicalize

1223
01:20:11,880 --> 01:20:16,200
people with this media coverage,
it gives black people a false

1224
01:20:16,200 --> 01:20:20,370
sense of security, that they can
open up and tell you everything

1225
01:20:20,370 --> 01:20:25,050
that's on their mind without any
repercussions. Replica

1226
01:20:25,080 --> 01:20:30,240
repercussions, right? This was
happened to haul. The guy got

1227
01:20:30,360 --> 01:20:33,270
the feeling got good to him.
He's like, Yeah, we'll burn it

1228
01:20:33,270 --> 01:20:36,990
down. And they're like, no, no,
no, no,

1229
01:20:36,990 --> 01:20:38,940
that's not gonna work. No, you

1230
01:20:38,940 --> 01:20:41,580
went too far on that? Well, it
may got him up out of here.

1231
01:20:42,480 --> 01:20:46,350
Because I was looking at the
TEDx. So not really a TED talk,

1232
01:20:46,350 --> 01:20:51,690
but a TEDx is billed as the same
in 2018, and is there he's local

1233
01:20:51,690 --> 01:20:54,540
chapter, black lives matter. So
I'm sure he was in the group. I

1234
01:20:54,540 --> 01:20:58,590
mean, you're totally right. He
was down. He may still only been

1235
01:20:58,590 --> 01:21:01,590
claiming at the time, but they
cut him off real quick after

1236
01:21:01,590 --> 01:21:02,850
that burning down stuff.

1237
01:21:03,450 --> 01:21:06,810
Yeah, they let him speak on
their behalf because he kind of

1238
01:21:06,870 --> 01:21:10,620
was good for good. He filled
that gap they needed like,

1239
01:21:10,620 --> 01:21:13,830
where's your black male
leadership? Oh, yeah. But he

1240
01:21:13,830 --> 01:21:17,460
wasn't really affiliated so they
can easily cut ties with them.

1241
01:21:18,150 --> 01:21:22,770
Anytime they want to right. Now,
we're gonna see I was this guy

1242
01:21:22,770 --> 01:21:24,510
speaking for Fox. I lost his
name.

1243
01:21:25,680 --> 01:21:26,190
Wallace,

1244
01:21:26,190 --> 01:21:29,580
I think it's Chris Wallace.
Okay, Chris Wallace. Now Chris

1245
01:21:29,580 --> 01:21:32,700
Wallace is going to use a very
familiar tactic that I've talked

1246
01:21:32,700 --> 01:21:35,670
about on this show is called the
MLK trigger.

1247
01:21:36,540 --> 01:21:41,970
There has been a split in the,
in the civil rights movement,

1248
01:21:41,970 --> 01:21:44,580
the African American community
for at least a half a century

1249
01:21:44,580 --> 01:21:50,160
now between Malcolm X and by any
means necessary on the one hand,

1250
01:21:50,160 --> 01:21:54,180
and Martin Luther King and
working through the system on

1251
01:21:54,180 --> 01:21:59,160
the other didn't MLK got a lot
more done, in a practical sense.

1252
01:22:00,390 --> 01:22:04,140
Believe that Dr. Martin Luther
King, Jr. was a brilliant

1253
01:22:04,800 --> 01:22:09,750
strategist, especially in the
form of media savvy, but Well,

1254
01:22:09,750 --> 01:22:15,090
we have to understand is black
people do not trust politicians.

1255
01:22:15,480 --> 01:22:19,140
They don't trust black. They
don't trust Democrats. They

1256
01:22:19,140 --> 01:22:23,520
don't trust Republicans. Black
people also have a problem with

1257
01:22:23,670 --> 01:22:26,640
the government overstepping its
bounds, the biggest Madison

1258
01:22:26,670 --> 01:22:30,480
manifestation of debt is
policing. So if you want to make

1259
01:22:30,480 --> 01:22:33,120
government smaller, then you
address police on that scale. If

1260
01:22:33,120 --> 01:22:36,990
you talk about the rift in the
civil rights movement, our

1261
01:22:37,620 --> 01:22:40,800
elders, a lot of them have been
bought off by the Democratic

1262
01:22:40,800 --> 01:22:45,210
establishment. Right. And they
pretty much go with the flow of

1263
01:22:45,210 --> 01:22:46,560
the Democratic establishment.

1264
01:22:47,790 --> 01:22:52,140
Wow. Way to get well, she's
speaking some truth. There.

1265
01:22:52,800 --> 01:22:55,710
He is. And that's what probably
got more counseled in the

1266
01:22:55,710 --> 01:22:56,340
morning. Now.

1267
01:22:57,630 --> 01:23:00,270
That's not that's not really the
talking point, Hawk.

1268
01:23:01,080 --> 01:23:03,720
Right. Could we at the end of
the day, the goal is to get

1269
01:23:03,720 --> 01:23:06,450
black people out and vote. So
you can't be out here saying all

1270
01:23:06,450 --> 01:23:11,220
the Democrats, that's wrong,
we're bought off. Wrong Wrong. I

1271
01:23:11,220 --> 01:23:13,740
think when he's talking about
the democratic ills being bought

1272
01:23:13,740 --> 01:23:18,180
off by them, by the black elders
being bought off by Democrats,

1273
01:23:18,450 --> 01:23:22,110
he's referring to Malcolm X
comments about Martin Luther

1274
01:23:22,110 --> 01:23:30,060
King, and him being him being
bought off by the liberals. And

1275
01:23:30,060 --> 01:23:33,300
this is the trigger I'm talking
about. Well, isn't isn't it

1276
01:23:33,300 --> 01:23:36,720
more, you know, MLK got more
done, you know, you don't want

1277
01:23:36,720 --> 01:23:40,110
to arm yourself and protect you.
He was

1278
01:23:40,110 --> 01:23:40,890
peaceful.

1279
01:23:42,300 --> 01:23:46,020
I hope people are seeing now how
the trigger is led this is why

1280
01:23:46,050 --> 01:23:50,130
MLK the product can never go
away. And this is why they'll

1281
01:23:50,130 --> 01:23:54,510
protect them to the end of his
communist socialist affiliations

1282
01:23:54,510 --> 01:23:58,140
because he's way more valuable.
Yeah, no controlling black

1283
01:23:58,140 --> 01:24:03,840
people. How they paid it. MLK
gets Malcolm X to say, oh, you

1284
01:24:03,840 --> 01:24:07,020
know, MLK was so much Duchess
want a cup of coffee at the

1285
01:24:07,020 --> 01:24:11,220
Woolworths counter? You don't
want it good. Do you don't want

1286
01:24:11,220 --> 01:24:13,800
to kind of protect yourself?
Yeah, this this is what I'm

1287
01:24:13,800 --> 01:24:17,160
talking about. This is the MLK.
I have I found I haven't found a

1288
01:24:17,160 --> 01:24:21,660
greater example of them using
the trigger to make black people

1289
01:24:21,660 --> 01:24:30,240
docile than this. Exactly. Well,
you export Mr. Curry, and to

1290
01:24:30,240 --> 01:24:34,800
speak to the armed black people
arming themselves and compare

1291
01:24:34,800 --> 01:24:39,630
MLK to Malcolm X. Let's listen
to a throwback clip from 43 Wit

1292
01:24:39,630 --> 01:24:40,800
resting in MLK.

1293
01:24:41,100 --> 01:24:44,130
My man Ruston. Here we go. What
do you want

1294
01:24:45,570 --> 01:24:50,760
to see Dr. King now So who is
it? Good evening, Mrs. King

1295
01:24:50,760 --> 01:24:51,600
Byard Reston.

1296
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:02,100
Aston is here that I guess we've
arrived

1297
01:25:08,550 --> 01:25:12,930
you stray from the principles of
non violence and you're the

1298
01:25:12,930 --> 01:25:16,140
leader of a nonviolent movement.
And yet you have guns in your

1299
01:25:16,140 --> 01:25:18,720
home and these armed guards
outside.

1300
01:25:21,720 --> 01:25:24,240
Let me ask you something. Mr.
Ruston? Would you risk your

1301
01:25:24,240 --> 01:25:27,510
family for attacking from
violence is not the time would

1302
01:25:27,510 --> 01:25:32,550
you risk your violence, isn't
it? I have an obligation family.

1303
01:25:33,960 --> 01:25:36,390
Well, the guns don't make me
feel any safer.

1304
01:25:40,170 --> 01:25:44,760
Oh, that's great. Yeah, so there
he is that and that was the real

1305
01:25:44,880 --> 01:25:46,800
the real power came in was
Roston

1306
01:25:47,520 --> 01:25:50,310
you her with me. Okay. This of
course, this is from a movie

1307
01:25:50,340 --> 01:25:58,860
called boycott. But it's
biographical pic. So it's should

1308
01:25:58,860 --> 01:26:02,940
be accurate. And of course
readings, things out read

1309
01:26:02,940 --> 01:26:06,930
support this notion about want
to point out to people. You see

1310
01:26:06,930 --> 01:26:12,240
the LGBT? Yeah. And the women
Yes, teaming up again. Now mo K

1311
01:26:12,240 --> 01:26:15,360
is the leader of this by the
narrative. He's the leader of

1312
01:26:15,360 --> 01:26:18,780
this whole Civil Rights
Movement. And they're

1313
01:26:18,780 --> 01:26:22,290
questioning his tactics and his
his his decision making. He's

1314
01:26:22,290 --> 01:26:25,830
like, Oh, well, how does it good
enough? Make you feel safer? I

1315
01:26:25,830 --> 01:26:30,180
don't know that. I don't how to
get my head around that. Right,

1316
01:26:30,180 --> 01:26:33,900
but we got to say that they are
Russian was a clear and open

1317
01:26:34,020 --> 01:26:34,830
communist.

1318
01:26:35,370 --> 01:26:39,750
Well, not only that, but and
this is why I brought it up

1319
01:26:39,780 --> 01:26:47,220
earlier. But also, while at the
time, every every LGBTQIA P k

1320
01:26:47,220 --> 01:26:51,270
plus had to be kind of quiet
about it. And he wasn't that

1321
01:26:51,270 --> 01:26:58,500
quiet about it now? Oh, no. In
2004, I think was 13 Obama

1322
01:26:59,670 --> 01:27:02,880
honored Bayard Rustin
posthumously. Was it possible

1323
01:27:02,910 --> 01:27:05,670
that yes, I surprised with it
well, but it was with the

1324
01:27:06,060 --> 01:27:11,580
Presidential Medal of Freedom.
But in 2019 Congress awarded him

1325
01:27:13,890 --> 01:27:20,220
for Well, here's the headline
honoring an unsung LGBTQ hero so

1326
01:27:20,220 --> 01:27:27,030
Bayard Rustin, also got honored
for his sexuality posthumously.

1327
01:27:28,200 --> 01:27:31,020
Just recently, though, which I
thought was kind of interesting.

1328
01:27:32,250 --> 01:27:34,680
What they're probably trying to
bring him back to the forefront

1329
01:27:34,680 --> 01:27:37,230
and you know, the control
mechanisms. I mean, they have to

1330
01:27:37,320 --> 01:27:38,670
these are their heroes. And he's

1331
01:27:38,670 --> 01:27:42,270
perfect. He's perfect as the you
know, to use just like for

1332
01:27:42,270 --> 01:27:45,450
African Americans now we can use
with LGBTQ because he was

1333
01:27:45,450 --> 01:27:48,630
actually the guy side by side.
Beautiful.

1334
01:27:48,660 --> 01:27:52,710
Well, when you got to come as we
move through, you know, the

1335
01:27:52,710 --> 01:27:55,470
future. You're going to be
hearing more and more. Well, he

1336
01:27:55,470 --> 01:27:58,590
led King Yep, there you go.
Because you're gonna have the

1337
01:27:58,620 --> 01:28:02,790
There you go. We have this
cisgender male. He was nothing

1338
01:28:02,790 --> 01:28:06,690
without br leading him. And then
that's where we're headed.

1339
01:28:07,380 --> 01:28:09,120
You're so right. Sadly, she

1340
01:28:09,120 --> 01:28:12,240
might get a trigger warning.
Please, if you can dig it up,

1341
01:28:12,240 --> 01:28:17,400
because this next clip might
trigger somebody out there

1342
01:28:23,040 --> 01:28:26,520
right, here it is, gentlemen.
Yes.

1343
01:28:30,660 --> 01:28:33,990
I had to play this because of
who speaks next and these next

1344
01:28:33,990 --> 01:28:41,430
to the clips? We have Gavin
Gavin McInnes. Oh. You said, Oh,

1345
01:28:43,110 --> 01:28:46,770
I understand the trigger warning
now. Yes, gotcha. Proud boys,

1346
01:28:46,830 --> 01:28:51,960
a member, a member of the proud
boys and suspected racist. But

1347
01:28:51,960 --> 01:28:56,010
he speaks on Black Lives Matters
and then having daddy issues.

1348
01:28:56,220 --> 01:28:59,310
So why do the two lesbians who
started Black Lives Matter? Why

1349
01:28:59,310 --> 01:29:03,060
do they love him so much?
Because they hate their dads

1350
01:29:03,060 --> 01:29:07,140
too. Now, I'm gonna be sort of
jumping all over the place here.

1351
01:29:07,140 --> 01:29:09,570
But before I get to them, let me
just explain daddy issues. I

1352
01:29:09,570 --> 01:29:12,300
think we all know what they are.
But it's a natural thing. I have

1353
01:29:12,300 --> 01:29:16,230
it. We've been getting better
over time, right? 45 degree

1354
01:29:16,230 --> 01:29:20,130
angle. And so inevitably, most
of us are looking into a father

1355
01:29:20,190 --> 01:29:23,400
who busted his ass worked way
harder than we did. My dad's

1356
01:29:23,400 --> 01:29:26,760
been in 1000s of fights. I've
been in like 15 And as a young

1357
01:29:26,760 --> 01:29:29,220
man, I would look into his eyes
and see disappointment. I hadn't

1358
01:29:29,220 --> 01:29:32,340
accomplished anything. I wore
communism. When I told him he

1359
01:29:32,340 --> 01:29:35,040
didn't know about the working
man. Fuck you, dad. That's what

1360
01:29:35,040 --> 01:29:37,440
these riots are. That's what
you're seeing on the street now.

1361
01:29:37,650 --> 01:29:39,840
They're pulling down the statues
and people go that's that was an

1362
01:29:39,840 --> 01:29:42,570
abolitionist. They don't give a
shit about what the statue is.

1363
01:29:42,720 --> 01:29:46,350
They give a shit about
patriarchy, masculinity legacy,

1364
01:29:46,500 --> 01:29:49,020
because they know they won't
have one. And they know their

1365
01:29:49,020 --> 01:29:52,380
dad did and they're pissed off
about it. So what do you do when

1366
01:29:52,380 --> 01:29:54,600
someone makes you feel like a
loser makes you feel

1367
01:29:54,600 --> 01:29:56,940
disappointing? You trivialize
them?

1368
01:29:58,440 --> 01:30:03,060
Oh, I'm sure shocked a black man
like you mo would even play a

1369
01:30:03,060 --> 01:30:06,450
clip from this horrible racist
misogynist a hall.

1370
01:30:08,040 --> 01:30:11,850
And my retort to that is pay
attention to everything.

1371
01:30:15,599 --> 01:30:20,099
It's usually when you when
something is being excoriated in

1372
01:30:20,099 --> 01:30:22,949
the mainstream, it's always
worth a listen. Now, what do you

1373
01:30:22,949 --> 01:30:24,869
got to lose? You might learn
something.

1374
01:30:25,679 --> 01:30:29,189
You can learn anything for
anybody, either what to do or

1375
01:30:29,189 --> 01:30:33,599
what not to do, right? I don't I
don't blind myself, or deaf

1376
01:30:33,599 --> 01:30:36,839
myself to voices just because
they're not acceptable. Okay,

1377
01:30:36,839 --> 01:30:46,379
Boomer suicide. So he digs up a
little piece of information that

1378
01:30:46,379 --> 01:30:50,069
has been scrubbed from the
internet, about black lives

1379
01:30:50,069 --> 01:30:51,659
matter in this next clip,

1380
01:30:51,870 --> 01:30:54,510
Black Lives Matter has been
hiding this because the people

1381
01:30:54,510 --> 01:30:57,780
are catching on. But they said
that they are a they are for

1382
01:30:57,780 --> 01:31:03,030
radical social intervention.
They also said, I don't know if

1383
01:31:03,030 --> 01:31:05,430
I included this. Yeah, they've
removed this from their site,

1384
01:31:05,430 --> 01:31:08,910
but you can find it on way back.
We are committed to disrupting

1385
01:31:08,940 --> 01:31:12,600
the Western proscribed nuclear
family structure requirements by

1386
01:31:12,600 --> 01:31:15,930
supporting each other as
extended families and villages.

1387
01:31:16,860 --> 01:31:20,220
What happens when your dad kicks
you out? You say no, this is my

1388
01:31:20,220 --> 01:31:23,370
family. And what happens when
you feel insecure about that and

1389
01:31:23,370 --> 01:31:27,000
wonder if it's as good as having
a dad? You enforce it? And you

1390
01:31:27,000 --> 01:31:30,750
say no, let's destroy the
family. Destroy the Father. So

1391
01:31:30,750 --> 01:31:33,900
no one can kick me out of my
house for being a black lesbian

1392
01:31:33,900 --> 01:31:39,240
teen. This is all totally
selfish. They collectively care

1393
01:31:39,240 --> 01:31:41,550
for one another, especially our
children's agree that mothers

1394
01:31:41,580 --> 01:31:42,990
parents and children are
comfortable.

1395
01:31:44,430 --> 01:31:48,240
Yep, mothers, parents and
children. Yep. I'm gonna say it

1396
01:31:48,240 --> 01:31:52,080
again. mothers, mothers, parents
and children.

1397
01:31:53,010 --> 01:31:55,140
Didn't doesn't have to be a man
in that.

1398
01:31:55,740 --> 01:32:01,350
No disrupting the Western family
structure, aka male leadership

1399
01:32:01,470 --> 01:32:05,100
is. That's their goal. That's
key. Yeah, that's key. That's

1400
01:32:05,100 --> 01:32:08,580
whenever I hear this. That's
even. Well, I wouldn't even say

1401
01:32:08,610 --> 01:32:13,140
even but Robyn D'Angelo talks
about the heteronormative

1402
01:32:13,170 --> 01:32:18,510
patriarchy, that is a big part
of the problem. And she had a

1403
01:32:18,540 --> 01:32:21,480
lot of problems with her father
and family growing up.

1404
01:32:22,950 --> 01:32:29,940
And as I stay on this show, you
know, almost no fault. It starts

1405
01:32:29,940 --> 01:32:35,880
with us. It starts with is
coming for you next, who fill in

1406
01:32:35,880 --> 01:32:39,120
the blank, whoever it is, it
starts with black people are

1407
01:32:39,120 --> 01:32:43,110
quote unquote, so called black
people. But it is the test room.

1408
01:32:43,140 --> 01:32:45,480
It's just the beta room. It's
like, oh, yeah, we could take

1409
01:32:45,480 --> 01:32:48,090
the family out. They'll take the
frog out their home, then we

1410
01:32:48,090 --> 01:32:50,760
were successful at that. All
right, let's take the father's

1411
01:32:50,760 --> 01:32:51,960
out of society period.

1412
01:32:53,280 --> 01:32:55,170
Wow, man will be like the
Uyghurs

1413
01:32:57,300 --> 01:33:01,830
which we have to talk about them
on another show? I can't do it.

1414
01:33:01,830 --> 01:33:03,150
I can't do this with you, Adam.

1415
01:33:04,770 --> 01:33:08,100
It's like, it's like rabbit hole
and the rabbit hole at home like

1416
01:33:08,100 --> 01:33:10,170
Jesus Christ. I know, come up.

1417
01:33:10,200 --> 01:33:14,190
I did dig a lot of holes. And
then I'd look at it and go toss

1418
01:33:14,190 --> 01:33:19,230
this to mow. Right? God as bad.
I know.

1419
01:33:19,500 --> 01:33:23,070
I'll tease here, which I know
you hate and some people love

1420
01:33:23,640 --> 01:33:32,550
Uyghurs. And we've that will be
a common topic. Um, but you

1421
01:33:32,550 --> 01:33:33,810
brought me to China.

1422
01:33:34,500 --> 01:33:37,890
Hold on, hold on. I'd be we've
I'm excited to hear that in the

1423
01:33:37,890 --> 01:33:38,340
future.

1424
01:33:41,970 --> 01:33:45,780
Since you took me here, I mean,
you gather to me right to China,

1425
01:33:46,140 --> 01:33:49,680
open on in with what is the
Cultural Revolution

1426
01:33:49,800 --> 01:33:52,560
to those of us who have never
been through it. China's

1427
01:33:52,560 --> 01:33:57,120
cultural revolution is just a
social political movement that

1428
01:33:57,120 --> 01:34:03,390
took place in China from 1966 to
1976. To many of those who have

1429
01:34:03,420 --> 01:34:08,160
lived through it, it was
probably the worst nightmare of

1430
01:34:08,160 --> 01:34:12,420
their lives on the surface. It
was to remove all capitalistic

1431
01:34:12,450 --> 01:34:16,530
elements from China, and to
remove all traditional and

1432
01:34:16,530 --> 01:34:20,250
cultural elements from Chinese
society. But what this movements

1433
01:34:20,250 --> 01:34:24,750
really was was multidose selfish
attempt to get rid of his rivals

1434
01:34:24,750 --> 01:34:28,350
and governments and to revive
his image to the Chinese people

1435
01:34:28,500 --> 01:34:32,310
after it was soiled that dude,
his campaign called the Great

1436
01:34:32,340 --> 01:34:36,000
Leap Forward. Now that campaign
ended up creating the largest

1437
01:34:36,000 --> 01:34:40,620
famine in human history, and
killing somewhere between 18 and

1438
01:34:40,620 --> 01:34:42,960
43 million people.

1439
01:34:43,500 --> 01:34:46,620
I think this is from that that
guy who did the entire Chinese

1440
01:34:46,620 --> 01:34:51,060
history in 30 minutes on
YouTube. We're at dawn GA That's

1441
01:34:51,060 --> 01:34:53,910
it. That's great as fans,
everyone should watch that. It's

1442
01:34:53,910 --> 01:34:54,660
really good.

1443
01:34:54,930 --> 01:34:58,650
As he just said they started
trying to remove capitalism, and

1444
01:34:58,650 --> 01:35:02,400
then all of history What are we
seeing? What are we seeing now

1445
01:35:02,430 --> 01:35:03,150
in the street?

1446
01:35:04,049 --> 01:35:06,419
Yeah, well, they removed it more
imperialism, wasn't it not

1447
01:35:06,419 --> 01:35:07,619
capital imperialism.

1448
01:35:08,189 --> 01:35:09,959
Now, let's say he said
capitalist, he would they want

1449
01:35:09,959 --> 01:35:11,639
to remove all capitalists. Oh,
right.

1450
01:35:11,640 --> 01:35:15,270
Okay. Yes. Yeah. Worse. Of
course, we're seeing the exact

1451
01:35:15,270 --> 01:35:16,800
same thing. Absolutely.

1452
01:35:16,920 --> 01:35:21,420
So it makes you question. Only
question. Where's the sources is

1453
01:35:21,420 --> 01:35:26,700
coming from all this kicked up?
Right after the China took a

1454
01:35:26,700 --> 01:35:28,950
major ale and the trade war to
Trump?

1455
01:35:29,340 --> 01:35:33,480
No, yeah, no. Now it also all
happens in an election year. So

1456
01:35:33,480 --> 01:35:36,840
there are lots of agendas that
have Confluence and come

1457
01:35:36,840 --> 01:35:37,950
together, of course,

1458
01:35:38,250 --> 01:35:43,770
right. But we know. We speculate
who controls the media, and we

1459
01:35:43,770 --> 01:35:46,680
had wall to wall coverage all
the way down to Sesame Street.

1460
01:35:48,540 --> 01:35:51,570
Well, no, no, of course. I mean,
the mainstream media appears to

1461
01:35:51,570 --> 01:35:55,290
be controlled by China directly
or indirectly, certainly,

1462
01:35:55,350 --> 01:35:58,290
indirectly with the
pharmaceutical industry, which

1463
01:35:58,290 --> 01:36:04,680
China certainly controls with
advertising. And And to add to

1464
01:36:04,680 --> 01:36:09,270
that we've had the director of
the FBI, the Attorney General,

1465
01:36:09,300 --> 01:36:13,530
and the Secretary of State and
of course, the president all go

1466
01:36:13,530 --> 01:36:17,640
on a massive offensive in the
past week alone, about China,

1467
01:36:17,730 --> 01:36:20,760
what they're doing, where
they've infiltrated, calling out

1468
01:36:20,760 --> 01:36:25,350
collaborators such as Apple,
Microsoft, Cisco, Yahoo, etc.

1469
01:36:25,770 --> 01:36:30,600
And not a peep on the mainstream
media. So yes, absolutely.

1470
01:36:32,340 --> 01:36:35,970
Well, I'll help people to just
listen out in this next clip,

1471
01:36:35,970 --> 01:36:38,850
but the parallels that went on
with the Cultural Revolution,

1472
01:36:39,090 --> 01:36:40,350
and what's going on now.

1473
01:36:40,920 --> 01:36:43,770
Now, the Cultural Revolution
started off with a campaign to

1474
01:36:43,770 --> 01:36:49,290
cast away the four Oles the four
O's are old ideas, old culture,

1475
01:36:49,440 --> 01:36:53,730
old customs and old habits.
Basically, this manifested in

1476
01:36:53,760 --> 01:36:57,690
old books and art being
destroyed. Museums ransacked in

1477
01:36:57,720 --> 01:37:01,410
streets renamed with new
revolutionary names, and adorned

1478
01:37:01,410 --> 01:37:04,410
with pictures and sayings a
monster don't everywhere, Malta

1479
01:37:04,410 --> 01:37:07,320
don't want it to eradicate
religion, first and foremost,

1480
01:37:07,320 --> 01:37:09,780
because without a belief system,
the Chinese people are more

1481
01:37:09,780 --> 01:37:13,020
easily swayed to believe,
basically, whatever He tells

1482
01:37:13,020 --> 01:37:16,860
them, many famous temples,
really old, traditional shrines

1483
01:37:16,860 --> 01:37:20,550
and utter historical heritage
sites were destroyed today, when

1484
01:37:20,550 --> 01:37:23,700
you go to China, most of the
temples in the old historic

1485
01:37:23,700 --> 01:37:27,540
sites that you see were actually
recreated because most of them

1486
01:37:27,690 --> 01:37:30,240
were all destroyed during the
Cultural Revolution where the

1487
01:37:30,240 --> 01:37:31,380
parent before that,

1488
01:37:32,040 --> 01:37:35,850
do you see the parallels here
renaming streets, Black Lives

1489
01:37:35,850 --> 01:37:42,930
Plaza, destroying of history,
now it just it was under the

1490
01:37:42,930 --> 01:37:48,030
guise of taking down Confederate
statues, which I have no issue

1491
01:37:48,030 --> 01:37:51,570
with taking them down. I stated
previous before, I mean,

1492
01:37:51,570 --> 01:37:54,780
previously, that I have no issue
with taking them down, I have an

1493
01:37:54,780 --> 01:37:58,080
issue with the manner in which
they're being taken. Now, of

1494
01:37:58,080 --> 01:38:00,840
course, it's not a democratic
process is stupid.

1495
01:38:03,210 --> 01:38:07,350
But what happens is snowball to
all of history's and they call

1496
01:38:07,350 --> 01:38:11,040
it the four old right, you know,
to get rid of Yeah, I think

1497
01:38:11,070 --> 01:38:14,550
America is going through the one
old, old white men, if you get

1498
01:38:14,550 --> 01:38:17,520
rid of old white man, every
single word, it'll be fixed.

1499
01:38:17,910 --> 01:38:21,030
Yeah, because the black man
won't emulate the old white man.

1500
01:38:21,030 --> 01:38:24,210
I mean, they'll fall in line and
you can solve all your problems

1501
01:38:24,210 --> 01:38:25,290
that way. I'm

1502
01:38:26,700 --> 01:38:31,950
just, you're in regards to the
Great Leap Forward. and China.

1503
01:38:31,980 --> 01:38:36,450
This is what Apple CEO Tim Cook
said just recently in regards to

1504
01:38:36,450 --> 01:38:37,740
Black Lives Matter.

1505
01:38:37,769 --> 01:38:42,449
So it is today, we're at an
important moment in our history,

1506
01:38:42,869 --> 01:38:47,099
a time when progress, which has
been far too slow, feel suddenly

1507
01:38:47,099 --> 01:38:51,479
poised to move forward in a
great lead. Each of us has a

1508
01:38:51,479 --> 01:38:54,479
role to play in making sure we
rise to the occasion.

1509
01:38:54,570 --> 01:38:57,930
I mean, that Tim Cook might as
well just work for the Chinese

1510
01:38:57,930 --> 01:39:01,950
Communist Party. He certainly
has a very deep relationship

1511
01:39:01,950 --> 01:39:04,650
with Apple has a very deep
relationship with and when he

1512
01:39:05,070 --> 01:39:08,040
those words are not used by
accident

1513
01:39:09,360 --> 01:39:13,560
at all, and the problem with the
Cultural Revolution was was bad

1514
01:39:13,560 --> 01:39:17,490
actors. There was no clear
definition of a bad actor. It

1515
01:39:17,490 --> 01:39:21,990
was just kind of like now,
right? You can just get called

1516
01:39:22,020 --> 01:39:27,060
and canceled for anything. This
person said this 10 years ago,

1517
01:39:27,060 --> 01:39:30,060
and then, you know, that's why
you have a lot of people coming

1518
01:39:30,060 --> 01:39:34,050
out and apologizing. No,
preemptively is I'm sorry. I

1519
01:39:34,050 --> 01:39:36,780
don't know. I don't know what I
did. But I'm sorry. I did it.

1520
01:39:37,290 --> 01:39:40,440
Yes. And here's my 100 million
dollar fund, whatever you do,

1521
01:39:40,440 --> 01:39:42,120
don't look over here, please. We

1522
01:39:43,500 --> 01:39:46,230
that's the brand you get the
logo, right you get the black

1523
01:39:46,230 --> 01:39:48,570
ink stamp and it's like oh,
we're good. I have a bag of

1524
01:39:48,570 --> 01:39:52,830
black ink pass. I'm be above
canceling.

1525
01:39:53,010 --> 01:39:57,000
Hey, we should create those as a
premium for donors. What

1526
01:39:57,000 --> 01:39:57,390
blacking

1527
01:39:57,390 --> 01:39:58,290
passes. Yeah,

1528
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:03,960
Shall Pass. Yeah, why not? We
can make our own blacking pass.

1529
01:40:03,990 --> 01:40:06,390
When you see that domain name I
can get I'm sure.

1530
01:40:07,740 --> 01:40:09,840
A punch card that we need to
make it like a punch card.

1531
01:40:11,250 --> 01:40:14,490
No barcode barcode will be fine.
Don't worry barcode will

1532
01:40:15,120 --> 01:40:17,370
understand for every
transgression you get the your

1533
01:40:17,370 --> 01:40:20,460
punch down as well. Okay. All
right. That way they had to

1534
01:40:20,460 --> 01:40:22,710
renew. Yeah, you gotta get you
had to renew.

1535
01:40:23,820 --> 01:40:27,480
We got out of punches. It's like
a ski lift pass. Okay, yeah,

1536
01:40:27,480 --> 01:40:28,080
exactly.

1537
01:40:31,980 --> 01:40:35,550
So, um, I think it's a good
point. You know, we talked about

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01:40:35,580 --> 01:40:41,100
that you and I felt this next
clip. And oftentimes people want

1539
01:40:41,100 --> 01:40:44,970
to say, How do I tell people
about the show? What is Mofaz?

1540
01:40:44,970 --> 01:40:47,820
What Adam curry what I don't
tell you guys what you're

1541
01:40:47,820 --> 01:40:51,780
talking about? Well, this next
clip, Adam, I think it describes

1542
01:40:51,810 --> 01:40:55,110
us and what we do to a tee, and
it's from one of your favorite

1543
01:40:55,110 --> 01:40:55,470
people.

1544
01:40:56,219 --> 01:40:59,399
Press, the white man and the
black men have to be able to sit

1545
01:40:59,399 --> 01:41:02,489
down at the same table, the
white man has to feel free to

1546
01:41:02,489 --> 01:41:05,519
speak his mind without hurting
the feelings of that negro. And

1547
01:41:05,519 --> 01:41:08,639
the so called Negro has to feel
free to speak his mind without

1548
01:41:08,639 --> 01:41:11,249
hurting the feelings of the
white man, then they can bring

1549
01:41:11,249 --> 01:41:14,069
the issue that are under the rug
out on top of the table and take

1550
01:41:14,069 --> 01:41:16,499
an intelligent approach to get
the problem solved. What's the

1551
01:41:16,499 --> 01:41:17,009
only way

1552
01:41:17,160 --> 01:41:25,320
we'll ever do it? Wow, that's
fantastic. That sums it up. And

1553
01:41:25,350 --> 01:41:31,080
if only we had known this much
earlier. How old is this clip

1554
01:41:31,080 --> 01:41:34,080
where this is what from like 60s
something?

1555
01:41:34,440 --> 01:41:40,680
Yes. 6460s 6364. I want to say
it wasn't a compilation of

1556
01:41:40,680 --> 01:41:44,100
Malcolm X clips. I mean, I was
going through it, looking for

1557
01:41:44,100 --> 01:41:46,680
something else. And that just
Powell was like, holy crap that

1558
01:41:46,680 --> 01:41:50,460
explains exactly what we're
doing. I'm coming to the table,

1559
01:41:50,580 --> 01:41:53,760
you're coming to the table, we
put a fence to the side. Yeah.

1560
01:41:53,820 --> 01:41:56,160
And we get right to the
problems.

1561
01:41:56,280 --> 01:41:59,940
And apparently, we're going to
save the world. I love this.

1562
01:42:00,390 --> 01:42:02,730
It's a tough job, ladies and
gentlemen, we've taken upon

1563
01:42:02,730 --> 01:42:06,480
ourselves, but we couldn't do it
without you. And this is what

1564
01:42:06,480 --> 01:42:09,060
Moe was talking about with value
for value. And actually, this is

1565
01:42:09,060 --> 01:42:12,540
where I want to just slip in the
idea of, you know, we have

1566
01:42:12,600 --> 01:42:18,930
capitalism, you've got communism
or Marxism. In the media

1567
01:42:18,930 --> 01:42:23,340
landscape, I think we're seeing
a I call it tribalism, or media

1568
01:42:23,340 --> 01:42:27,300
tribalism. But it really is a
form of an economy that has,

1569
01:42:28,110 --> 01:42:32,100
that has shown that you don't
even if you if you have talent,

1570
01:42:32,100 --> 01:42:34,950
and you want to do something,
you don't have to be part of the

1571
01:42:34,950 --> 01:42:39,630
system. This is what's changed.
And why these systems don't work

1572
01:42:39,630 --> 01:42:42,750
the same anymore, or are
vulnerable. Because we've

1573
01:42:42,750 --> 01:42:46,980
created models like the value
for value model, which means we

1574
01:42:46,980 --> 01:42:49,950
don't need to have massive
scale, we just need to be

1575
01:42:49,950 --> 01:42:54,060
supported by our tribe by our
community. And that's exactly

1576
01:42:54,060 --> 01:42:57,600
what is happening with Moe facts
with Adam curry, as we have

1577
01:42:58,290 --> 01:43:01,260
assigned everybody the role of
producer ship. And without a

1578
01:43:01,260 --> 01:43:05,250
doubt, MO You give me way too
much credit. But a lot of the a

1579
01:43:05,250 --> 01:43:09,810
lot of the rabbit holes I fall
into and then slide over to your

1580
01:43:09,810 --> 01:43:13,680
side. Of course, they come from
producers, people who are

1581
01:43:13,680 --> 01:43:18,690
interactively involved in the
programming of this podcast. And

1582
01:43:18,690 --> 01:43:23,190
the only way we can do it and
and sustain it is with support

1583
01:43:23,190 --> 01:43:26,460
and financial support. And we
love people who do that. They

1584
01:43:26,460 --> 01:43:29,670
are often our executive or
Associate Executive producers,

1585
01:43:29,670 --> 01:43:32,880
but everyone has a producer who
helps out in any way you can.

1586
01:43:32,880 --> 01:43:36,480
But we are very appreciative of
the support that we received.

1587
01:43:36,480 --> 01:43:39,900
Now this is really for the past
two weeks, so it's a little bit

1588
01:43:39,900 --> 01:43:43,770
longer, but the support is
overwhelming. And it's just

1589
01:43:43,770 --> 01:43:46,230
fantastic to read all these
notes, which we're going to

1590
01:43:46,230 --> 01:43:50,340
share now. And we start with Joe
Travis, who supports the show

1591
01:43:50,340 --> 01:43:58,080
with $500 which is fan really
appreciated and incredibly nice.

1592
01:43:58,080 --> 01:44:00,570
And here's what he says mo
how're you doing? I just want to

1593
01:44:00,570 --> 01:44:03,990
let you know I'm not racist. I
even had a black friend 30 years

1594
01:44:03,990 --> 01:44:07,530
ago in college. Yes, this is
this is a new fund donation know

1595
01:44:07,530 --> 01:44:10,980
what I've noticed that seriously
though, he says, you and Adam

1596
01:44:10,980 --> 01:44:13,530
are doing a fantastic job have
learned a lot and the podcast

1597
01:44:13,530 --> 01:44:16,860
has really made me think I got
my college age son into no

1598
01:44:16,860 --> 01:44:19,650
agenda about two years ago, and
I'm getting him started a mo

1599
01:44:19,650 --> 01:44:22,560
facts now. It's immunized him
against the liberal

1600
01:44:22,560 --> 01:44:28,590
indoctrination at school. Yes.
And thank you, Joe, as he says,

1601
01:44:28,590 --> 01:44:31,230
Thanks. Thanks. Thanks, Joe.
That's very cool. That's that's

1602
01:44:31,230 --> 01:44:33,960
another thing that's happening.
Right now we're seeing with the

1603
01:44:33,960 --> 01:44:37,200
school closures and kids being
threatened to be on Zoom for

1604
01:44:37,200 --> 01:44:40,410
five hours a day. Parents are
now creating pods of

1605
01:44:40,410 --> 01:44:43,860
homeschooling and they're hiring
teachers to come into you know,

1606
01:44:43,860 --> 01:44:48,120
like they got maybe six or eight
kids. It's ingenuity is

1607
01:44:48,120 --> 01:44:51,330
fantastic. And so I can see,
hopefully a different

1608
01:44:51,330 --> 01:44:55,710
curriculum, maybe even appearing
from this Malcolm X approved

1609
01:44:55,710 --> 01:45:00,180
podcast. It's right there. He
said it right there. It's Got it

1610
01:45:00,180 --> 01:45:04,440
right there I don't I don't care
what you say. We came Butler

1611
01:45:04,440 --> 01:45:08,640
comes in right after Joe with
$300 and says this is only a

1612
01:45:08,640 --> 01:45:11,130
fraction of the value we have
received from listening to

1613
01:45:11,130 --> 01:45:15,000
dozens of your episodes. Since
discuss its first discovering mo

1614
01:45:15,000 --> 01:45:20,250
facts in May. We'd like to
contribute to the GBG jar the

1615
01:45:20,250 --> 01:45:23,640
give blacks guns, can we get
some mo karma for our country

1616
01:45:23,640 --> 01:45:25,920
right now? Well, of course we
got some of that for you I

1617
01:45:32,070 --> 01:45:34,860
would be interested to hear your
perspective on Rhodesia slash

1618
01:45:34,860 --> 01:45:38,070
Zimbabwe as well as China's
involvement more than we touched

1619
01:45:38,070 --> 01:45:41,820
on China today. Remember weapons
safety rules and rock out with

1620
01:45:41,820 --> 01:45:46,590
your Glock out? Thank you cane.
And so both a Joe and Kane are

1621
01:45:46,590 --> 01:45:50,250
obviously for obvious reasons.
They are executive producers, as

1622
01:45:50,250 --> 01:45:53,850
is Sir H from San Francisco $200
As in the morning I just caught

1623
01:45:53,850 --> 01:45:57,750
up with all the episodes and
this is $5 per episode. I wish I

1624
01:45:57,750 --> 01:46:00,630
could pay a lot more but
everyone at my company got a 20%

1625
01:46:00,750 --> 01:46:05,310
pay cut thanks to the Loana
maybe he made Rona but says Lona

1626
01:46:06,030 --> 01:46:10,110
Russa at the end will be greatly
appreciated it Kitagawa sir ah

1627
01:46:10,110 --> 01:46:13,470
from San Francisco we can give
you a WUSA right now ma'am won't

1628
01:46:13,470 --> 01:46:14,160
be happy to do

1629
01:46:20,100 --> 01:46:24,990
Amy Ekman comes after Sir H with
the $200 as well and says as an

1630
01:46:24,990 --> 01:46:28,080
avid listener of no agenda, I
discovered mo facts. I love it.

1631
01:46:28,380 --> 01:46:32,040
I've learned so much from about
our country's cultural history

1632
01:46:32,190 --> 01:46:36,030
that has been lost or rewritten
or hidden. I would add thanks to

1633
01:46:36,030 --> 01:46:40,920
you two gentlemen, I am mo woke.
There's a t shirt. So much so

1634
01:46:40,920 --> 01:46:43,980
many premiums for the show. Keep
up the great work Amy from

1635
01:46:43,980 --> 01:46:46,830
Healdsburg, California. And I
did want to say that just before

1636
01:46:47,040 --> 01:46:50,220
we started recording today, I
finalized the archive page

1637
01:46:50,250 --> 01:46:54,930
archive.mo facts.com has every
single episode, almost every

1638
01:46:54,930 --> 01:46:57,420
single show notes page. We
didn't do show notes early in

1639
01:46:57,420 --> 01:47:00,510
the show. Like we're doing them
now with the clips etc. But you

1640
01:47:00,510 --> 01:47:04,500
go to archive.mo facts.com and
you can get everything going

1641
01:47:04,500 --> 01:47:07,950
back to Episode One. And it's
not a bad idea to start with

1642
01:47:07,950 --> 01:47:14,670
Episode One To Follow the entire
journey. Eric calibrator $143

1643
01:47:14,670 --> 01:47:20,430
And he says I say g d which
maybe means good day. Great

1644
01:47:20,430 --> 01:47:24,330
content a hundo for the effort
43 for the next episode, the

1645
01:47:24,360 --> 01:47:27,990
comment about less than 20%
Black does not a BLM protest

1646
01:47:27,990 --> 01:47:32,790
make really resonated. Some
White woke privileged family has

1647
01:47:32,790 --> 01:47:36,150
been lecturing me and the missus
about our place. I'm an old

1648
01:47:36,150 --> 01:47:39,360
white guy missus is mixed
Japanese American so

1649
01:47:39,360 --> 01:47:42,060
appreciative of sharing these
conversations and viewpoints

1650
01:47:42,060 --> 01:47:46,380
bonus I'm all for armed everyone
thankful for the same nuanced

1651
01:47:46,380 --> 01:47:48,750
conversation in the morning.
Thank you for your courage, love

1652
01:47:48,750 --> 01:47:52,380
and light sir Eric's naked and
thank you very much. Eric. It is

1653
01:47:52,380 --> 01:47:57,420
appreciated Mad Mike of the
traveling spiders 126 43 mo been

1654
01:47:57,420 --> 01:48:00,720
listening for a few weeks came
from a Rogen. No agenda mo

1655
01:48:00,720 --> 01:48:05,190
facts. This. This is part of the
tribal media concept. There's

1656
01:48:05,220 --> 01:48:11,280
overlap, and we fly between ro
Namo. It's Romo. Exactly. Oh my

1657
01:48:11,280 --> 01:48:15,870
Corona, mono Namo. And write
that down the road. This is very

1658
01:48:15,870 --> 01:48:22,140
Roan. Mo Holy crap. That's a
good one. GBG good blacks guns

1659
01:48:22,140 --> 01:48:25,560
is spot on best episode yet. You
really made an impression and

1660
01:48:25,560 --> 01:48:29,490
gotten a reformed conservative
libertarian to open up his older

1661
01:48:29,520 --> 01:48:32,610
eyes. Appreciate your view. I
can see my perspectives

1662
01:48:32,640 --> 01:48:36,450
adjusting themselves spreading
the word but folks have to wait

1663
01:48:36,450 --> 01:48:39,390
to find the truth is true.
Unfortunately, most are

1664
01:48:39,390 --> 01:48:42,300
uncomfortable stepping outside
their bubbles but still passing

1665
01:48:42,300 --> 01:48:47,880
the word. Adam you're not awful.
The white guy gets it gets a

1666
01:48:48,600 --> 01:48:53,880
compliment. They're excellent.
Then we go to Century City View

1667
01:48:55,020 --> 01:49:00,630
was a rather long note 123451 of
our favorite donation amounts.

1668
01:49:01,200 --> 01:49:04,530
And let's see what he says here
dear mo anatomy I enjoyed your

1669
01:49:04,530 --> 01:49:08,580
episode on Tupac. I wrote two
books on the murders of Tupac

1670
01:49:08,580 --> 01:49:12,600
and Biggie with former LAPD
detective Russell Poole. He was

1671
01:49:12,600 --> 01:49:15,570
the lead detective on the cases.
He was also the whistleblower

1672
01:49:15,570 --> 01:49:18,420
that gave us the Rampart
scandal. Oh wow. Police were

1673
01:49:18,420 --> 01:49:21,270
involved in the murders and
police were and still are

1674
01:49:21,270 --> 01:49:24,930
involved in the cover ups
Russell and I second generation

1675
01:49:24,960 --> 01:49:28,200
a second year investment
investigation. In our second

1676
01:49:28,200 --> 01:49:31,710
year investigation detailed in
chaos merchants documented and

1677
01:49:31,710 --> 01:49:34,650
footnoted every fact this was a
work in process at the time of

1678
01:49:34,650 --> 01:49:37,260
Russell pools. Death in the
meeting with the sheriff's

1679
01:49:37,440 --> 01:49:40,200
attempting to get the murders
reopened and solves Holy crap.

1680
01:49:40,290 --> 01:49:43,590
This is very interesting and
what so if that's the name of

1681
01:49:43,590 --> 01:49:45,960
the book, it is

1682
01:49:46,050 --> 01:49:49,980
it is very interesting to
consider this topic eyeball

1683
01:49:49,980 --> 01:49:55,260
always on it. Now, one of my
favorite things to research and

1684
01:49:55,260 --> 01:49:55,770
discuss.

1685
01:49:57,180 --> 01:49:59,640
Prior to getting involved in all
these investigations, I made a

1686
01:49:59,640 --> 01:50:02,490
doctor Mentri about the Mexican
cartels called American

1687
01:50:02,490 --> 01:50:05,400
federally. After the books are
written I made a documentary on

1688
01:50:05,400 --> 01:50:09,810
Suge Knight, and then one on the
murders called Battle for

1689
01:50:09,810 --> 01:50:12,720
Compton and made the trip to
Minnesota while the buildings

1690
01:50:12,720 --> 01:50:15,840
were burning in the aftermath of
joy, the George Floyd murder, I

1691
01:50:15,840 --> 01:50:19,590
got to see an intelligence
operation unfold in real time.

1692
01:50:19,890 --> 01:50:23,100
During our protests during our
protest march documented in the

1693
01:50:23,100 --> 01:50:26,400
film, the people have the power,
a federal agent magically

1694
01:50:26,400 --> 01:50:30,030
appeared to lead us into the
Freeway between police where we

1695
01:50:30,030 --> 01:50:33,630
were surrounded on all sides. We
were suckered into this March by

1696
01:50:33,630 --> 01:50:36,840
a crisis actor that told us
white supremacist were shooting

1697
01:50:36,840 --> 01:50:40,470
protesters. I would like to know
if anyone recognizes this actor.

1698
01:50:40,470 --> 01:50:44,130
You can see him in this film. I
believe he's either police

1699
01:50:44,130 --> 01:50:47,640
officer or military the entire
day was very strange. Wow,

1700
01:50:47,640 --> 01:50:53,010
that's quite a quite a lot of
info there. And we'll certainly

1701
01:50:53,010 --> 01:50:55,860
if we hear anything, we'll we'll
send it on to you or bring it up

1702
01:50:55,860 --> 01:50:57,660
and thank you for supporting

1703
01:50:57,810 --> 01:51:00,810
me and I will say I might be
reaching out to him for my

1704
01:51:01,740 --> 01:51:07,110
highly anticipated Hip Hop
episode series. Because I got

1705
01:51:07,110 --> 01:51:07,710
some questions

1706
01:51:07,860 --> 01:51:13,290
for you. Very nice. Okay. Yes.
Excellent, excellent. Now we go

1707
01:51:13,290 --> 01:51:21,750
to K are with 101 The black male
professional scientists and

1708
01:51:21,750 --> 01:51:24,870
software engineer on affiliated
political moderate currently in

1709
01:51:24,870 --> 01:51:28,350
California but from Georgia,
North Carolina. Last month, I

1710
01:51:28,350 --> 01:51:31,200
had job interviews with two of
the biggest policy think tanks

1711
01:51:31,200 --> 01:51:35,610
in DC heritage and AI, I hope to
be able to influence them to

1712
01:51:35,610 --> 01:51:38,850
design fact based nonpartisan
policies for the federal

1713
01:51:38,850 --> 01:51:41,550
government and presidents.
Hopefully they'll hire me

1714
01:51:41,640 --> 01:51:45,150
heritage is highly influential
indeed. They told Trump who to

1715
01:51:45,150 --> 01:51:48,420
hire when he entered the White
House plus being in DC during

1716
01:51:48,420 --> 01:51:51,720
this election should be
entertaining well KR that is

1717
01:51:51,780 --> 01:51:55,260
first of all great to hear that
we would like to have more facts

1718
01:51:55,260 --> 01:52:01,410
with Adam curry entered into the
congressional library as a fact

1719
01:52:01,410 --> 01:52:06,450
based historic history of the
country and anything else you

1720
01:52:06,450 --> 01:52:07,230
need us to do we'll help

1721
01:52:07,230 --> 01:52:10,290
out with one thing can you get
my MO calmer for the job?

1722
01:52:10,320 --> 01:52:18,870
Yeah, no kidding. That is a good
gig man. Definitely read Harding

1723
01:52:18,870 --> 01:52:21,930
$100 Thought you might
appreciate this big fan of the

1724
01:52:21,930 --> 01:52:25,650
show soon to contribute the road
to hell picture do you have to

1725
01:52:25,650 --> 01:52:26,850
see a road to hell picture I

1726
01:52:26,850 --> 01:52:30,390
didn't. Yeah, he actually sent
me this picture before he

1727
01:52:30,390 --> 01:52:33,660
donated. He didn't I couldn't
find a note for him. But this

1728
01:52:33,660 --> 01:52:40,080
picture is great. I'll forward
it to you. It has the it's a

1729
01:52:40,110 --> 01:52:43,860
representation of the black
lives matter. Black lives matter

1730
01:52:43,860 --> 01:52:47,760
Plaza and instead of Black Lives
Matter in yellow letters it says

1731
01:52:47,760 --> 01:52:53,730
road to hail and then it has it
was yeah, that was her letter

1732
01:52:53,730 --> 01:52:55,980
was hilarious. is actually my
screensaver

1733
01:52:55,980 --> 01:52:59,160
now. Very nice. Explain what's
at the end of the road because I

1734
01:52:59,160 --> 01:53:00,210
stepped on this Hail,

1735
01:53:00,420 --> 01:53:02,430
hail purgatory.

1736
01:53:05,340 --> 01:53:09,180
Then we have our first Associate
Executive Producer art from the

1737
01:53:09,180 --> 01:53:13,230
Ville PHP sounds Dutch to me mo
Adam. I listened to the GBG

1738
01:53:13,230 --> 01:53:17,160
episode in my shed reloading
from my old Mirko walnut and

1739
01:53:17,160 --> 01:53:21,990
steel. Oh, he's got he's in the
gun club. Dutch rangers have

1740
01:53:21,990 --> 01:53:25,020
finally opened after a four
month closing another great

1741
01:53:25,020 --> 01:53:31,260
three hours of very interesting
insights well worth a GBA w as a

1742
01:53:31,260 --> 01:53:34,920
donation which is give blacks
and Adams white ask some ammo

1743
01:53:34,920 --> 01:53:40,140
donation. Double tap 30 Odd six
Keep up the good work. I like

1744
01:53:40,140 --> 01:53:43,890
that our Thank you very much.
But one of the few people in the

1745
01:53:43,890 --> 01:53:46,800
Netherlands that would be
licensed to have a firearm. Of

1746
01:53:46,800 --> 01:53:49,380
course, it's listed at two mo
facts. What do you think?

1747
01:53:49,620 --> 01:53:53,580
Meredith, Matt and $58 and says
I was particularly inspired by

1748
01:53:53,580 --> 01:53:58,170
the episode GBG and I've said
gun control is racist for the

1749
01:53:58,170 --> 01:54:01,260
longest time I can't afford to
give enough to buy you a gun.

1750
01:54:01,440 --> 01:54:05,820
But I can buy you some bullets
or two memberships to the n a GA

1751
01:54:05,910 --> 01:54:09,330
of $29 per person per year.
Thank you. We'll sign up right

1752
01:54:09,330 --> 01:54:14,130
away. I can be the honorary
shadow. Love the show y'all keep

1753
01:54:14,130 --> 01:54:17,070
it up as a criminal defense
attorney racism and bias

1754
01:54:17,070 --> 01:54:19,620
policing are common topics
discussed with my friends that

1755
01:54:19,620 --> 01:54:23,070
conversation is recently
dominated by socialists love

1756
01:54:23,070 --> 01:54:27,690
Black Lives Matter Inc. Org, as
we say now black ink so I'm glad

1757
01:54:27,690 --> 01:54:30,300
to hear another perspective on
the OFAC show. As for the

1758
01:54:30,300 --> 01:54:32,760
alternative to the no agenda
peerage committee, what about

1759
01:54:32,760 --> 01:54:36,600
your own fraternity? Or maybe
even your own Boulais I think

1760
01:54:36,600 --> 01:54:38,940
that'd be fun. The merch ideas
are already running through my

1761
01:54:38,940 --> 01:54:43,590
head says Meredith de Meredith
de fer order of anonymous from

1762
01:54:43,620 --> 01:54:47,730
na peerage. Okay, well, we've
danced around this topic for a

1763
01:54:47,730 --> 01:54:52,350
while which is basically to have
a levels of achievement in

1764
01:54:52,380 --> 01:54:56,190
producer ship, where you can
just purely based on your own

1765
01:54:56,190 --> 01:54:59,970
accounting. When we come to a
certain number then you can be

1766
01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:02,970
Come a while there's no agenda
has a night or a dame of the

1767
01:55:02,970 --> 01:55:05,520
roundtable, you've been thinking
about this. What do you what do

1768
01:55:05,520 --> 01:55:05,970
you have?

1769
01:55:06,450 --> 01:55:10,200
Well, hearing that Malcolm X
clip, speaking of bringing them

1770
01:55:10,200 --> 01:55:16,170
to the table, I don't want to,
you know, step on the no agenda

1771
01:55:16,170 --> 01:55:19,020
format, but I mean, it's kind of
like bring up to the table. I

1772
01:55:19,020 --> 01:55:25,020
mean, we need to bring in grain
that into our our, to the table.

1773
01:55:25,050 --> 01:55:31,590
Yep. Okay. Yes. So we need to
bring people to the table. The

1774
01:55:31,590 --> 01:55:36,210
limits? I don't know how we set
those up. As far as I think

1775
01:55:36,210 --> 01:55:39,720
we bring them to the table, we
call on it, the table, we call

1776
01:55:39,720 --> 01:55:41,730
it, we got to have you tell me?

1777
01:55:42,420 --> 01:55:44,670
Yeah, we can listen to that clip
again. Cuz I think we need to

1778
01:55:44,670 --> 01:55:48,810
center around that. Because
that's what this is the car. And

1779
01:55:48,810 --> 01:55:51,360
when people say the
conversation, this is what needs

1780
01:55:51,360 --> 01:55:55,680
to happen. People set aside
their emotions, and have an open

1781
01:55:55,680 --> 01:55:58,410
conversation. And I think
everybody has been contributed

1782
01:55:58,410 --> 01:56:04,140
to the show is producers are all
for that. So right

1783
01:56:04,140 --> 01:56:07,410
man, and the black men have to
be able to sit down at the same

1784
01:56:07,410 --> 01:56:10,620
table, the white man has to feel
free to speak his mind without

1785
01:56:10,620 --> 01:56:13,500
hurting the feelings of that
negro. And the so called Negro

1786
01:56:13,500 --> 01:56:16,620
has to feel free to speak his
mind without hurting the feeling

1787
01:56:16,770 --> 01:56:19,230
of the white man, then they can
bring the issue that are under

1788
01:56:19,230 --> 01:56:22,440
the rug on top of the table and
take an intelligent approach to

1789
01:56:22,440 --> 01:56:25,110
get the problem solved. That's
the only way we'll ever do it.

1790
01:56:27,180 --> 01:56:31,110
Okay, I'm going to think about
this too. Yeah, something is

1791
01:56:31,110 --> 01:56:32,520
seated at the table. Like I
said,

1792
01:56:33,510 --> 01:56:35,790
All right. Well, what we're
working on at Meredith, thanks

1793
01:56:35,790 --> 01:56:38,280
for kicking that off. Michael
Bradbery a double nickels on the

1794
01:56:38,280 --> 01:56:39,810
dime. 5510 in the morning.

1795
01:56:40,050 --> 01:56:42,270
Well, you could say you we do
have a fraternity. It's called

1796
01:56:42,270 --> 01:56:47,880
the school of fish. Okay, we're
swimming, baby. We're swimming.

1797
01:56:47,940 --> 01:56:52,860
All right. Well, that's another
good one. I like that too. So

1798
01:56:52,860 --> 01:56:56,490
you can do a lot with fish. All
right. In the morning. Oh, and

1799
01:56:56,490 --> 01:56:59,340
Adams is Michael Bradbury. After
hearing Adam and John mentioned

1800
01:56:59,340 --> 01:57:01,740
the show on no agenda. I finally
started listening a few weeks

1801
01:57:01,740 --> 01:57:04,740
ago, it had been going back to
the older episodes when I can do

1802
01:57:04,770 --> 01:57:07,770
analysis on each show was
fantastic. So I had to send some

1803
01:57:07,770 --> 01:57:10,560
value Anyway, keep up the great
work and it was not too much

1804
01:57:10,560 --> 01:57:13,440
trouble. Could I get some mo
karma? Yes, you can. Mike, thank

1805
01:57:13,440 --> 01:57:22,770
you very much for your support.
Brian Rogers 55. Good day to you

1806
01:57:22,770 --> 01:57:25,290
both Mo and Adam, please accept
this donation for supplying

1807
01:57:25,290 --> 01:57:28,140
tremendous content that is
seemingly unavailable on any

1808
01:57:28,140 --> 01:57:32,520
other platform. As a suburban
white kid who grew up good

1809
01:57:32,520 --> 01:57:36,240
friends with several black kids
too. I was put on to some

1810
01:57:36,240 --> 01:57:39,780
aspects of black culture, namely
rap music and sneaker culture.

1811
01:57:40,050 --> 01:57:43,530
Your podcast has had a profound
impact on the way I used to

1812
01:57:43,530 --> 01:57:46,710
differentiate between being
white and black. With the help

1813
01:57:46,710 --> 01:57:49,680
of the pod Father, you've shown
me that there are a lot more

1814
01:57:49,800 --> 01:57:52,500
similarities between white
people and black people,

1815
01:57:52,500 --> 01:57:55,800
especially in the way we think
than what the mainstream media

1816
01:57:55,800 --> 01:57:59,460
would have us believe exactly.
really groundbreaking work. Can

1817
01:57:59,460 --> 01:58:02,070
I please have a WUSA with a dash
of Mo karma?

1818
01:58:08,400 --> 01:58:17,100
You've got Rochelle stole 5333
this producer is from Rochelle

1819
01:58:17,100 --> 01:58:19,830
Stowe. And here's her note Okay,
started listening to mow facts

1820
01:58:19,830 --> 01:58:22,320
after my husband Jake, a
longtime no agenda listener

1821
01:58:22,320 --> 01:58:25,170
heard about this new project.
We're not 30 He's live in

1822
01:58:25,170 --> 01:58:27,810
Seattle and we listened to this
podcast together when we're road

1823
01:58:27,810 --> 01:58:31,980
tripping. Jake says he's a
culturalist white mutt. I have a

1824
01:58:31,980 --> 01:58:34,680
mixed background. My dad grew up
in Jamaica my mom's extended

1825
01:58:34,680 --> 01:58:37,440
family is from Croatia. So I've
always grown up between two

1826
01:58:37,440 --> 01:58:40,440
worlds. When I hear Moe talk
about being a proud black man

1827
01:58:40,440 --> 01:58:43,050
and how have you ever said you
I'm a proud black man.

1828
01:58:46,560 --> 01:58:47,550
You may be

1829
01:58:50,010 --> 01:58:51,720
trying to think that

1830
01:58:52,440 --> 01:58:55,980
when I say the term black, it's
the first definition not the

1831
01:58:55,980 --> 01:58:56,340
second.

1832
01:58:57,150 --> 01:59:00,510
Exactly. I just thought was
interesting because you come

1833
01:59:00,510 --> 01:59:03,300
across that way. Regardless, you
come across as a proud proud

1834
01:59:03,300 --> 01:59:07,440
mofo would love it right? Here
mo talking about being a proud

1835
01:59:07,440 --> 01:59:10,440
black man, I wouldn't want to be
anything else. I think about how

1836
01:59:10,440 --> 01:59:14,130
my dad raised my brother and I,
that we can't do anything, be

1837
01:59:14,130 --> 01:59:17,100
anything and achieve that we can
do anything, be anything and

1838
01:59:17,100 --> 01:59:20,280
achieve whatever we want. I
started getting attention from

1839
01:59:20,280 --> 01:59:23,070
my friends and co workers that
made me feel like a victim

1840
01:59:23,220 --> 01:59:26,040
because of the color of my skin
especially after George Floyd

1841
01:59:26,040 --> 01:59:29,370
was murdered. The attention is
overwhelming and exhausting.

1842
01:59:29,370 --> 01:59:32,670
This is a great note. But this
show gives me context help

1843
01:59:32,670 --> 01:59:36,720
navigate this fun, help navigate
conversations about race,

1844
01:59:36,900 --> 01:59:39,630
hearing the history of why Black
people are taught by media to

1845
01:59:39,630 --> 01:59:43,440
feel victimized rid me of that
anxiety. Every day. I say to

1846
01:59:43,440 --> 01:59:46,500
myself, that knowledge is power
and I feel very powerful because

1847
01:59:46,500 --> 01:59:49,890
of your work. Moe karma with the
kick of goat screen for all the

1848
01:59:49,890 --> 01:59:54,090
new listeners, please. Also, I
just watched the last dance with

1849
01:59:54,090 --> 01:59:57,180
Michael Jordan and I'm curious,
what do you think about him?

1850
01:59:57,390 --> 02:00:01,980
Thank you very much as Rochelle
Now I read You really, really

1851
02:00:01,980 --> 02:00:06,420
love this note? Because it's
helping her understand white

1852
02:00:06,420 --> 02:00:06,990
people.

1853
02:00:07,800 --> 02:00:10,980
And I remember her husband
writing in actually he wrote,

1854
02:00:11,190 --> 02:00:14,430
Oh, that's right. I do remember
shows ago. Yeah, we remember we

1855
02:00:14,430 --> 02:00:18,390
remember these things, people.
That's right. He was talking

1856
02:00:18,390 --> 02:00:22,080
about how helpful from his
perspective it was. And I'm glad

1857
02:00:22,080 --> 02:00:28,470
to hear her. Give her firsthand
account, please. All right now,

1858
02:00:28,890 --> 02:00:31,470
Michael Jordan, Michael Jordan,
the greatest basketball player

1859
02:00:31,470 --> 02:00:38,190
ever by far it's not even close.
I think he gets a hard they're

1860
02:00:38,190 --> 02:00:41,130
pretty hard on him because he's
not as woke as people will want

1861
02:00:41,130 --> 02:00:44,130
him to be. But they gotta
realize he only made $2 million

1862
02:00:44,400 --> 02:00:47,160
a year playing basketball
compared to $40 million a year

1863
02:00:47,160 --> 02:00:50,610
that players make now so plus
the shoe deals do they get so

1864
02:00:50,610 --> 02:00:54,750
they can be a lot allowed to be
appear to be a lot more woker if

1865
02:00:54,750 --> 02:00:58,680
that's the word then Michael was
because he was actually kicking

1866
02:00:58,710 --> 02:01:01,230
open the door that they reap the
benefits from now.

1867
02:01:02,130 --> 02:01:06,600
I don't have the ESPN on demand
thing or whatever the hell it

1868
02:01:06,600 --> 02:01:09,810
was but it just hidden it from
Netflix and the keeper. Nice.

1869
02:01:10,230 --> 02:01:13,860
Because she lives in Chicago.
You know, she witnessed all of

1870
02:01:13,860 --> 02:01:19,710
that. She she was a Bulls fan
like everybody and I've only hit

1871
02:01:19,710 --> 02:01:24,420
episode two but I I love this
series is fascinating to watch

1872
02:01:24,420 --> 02:01:28,440
is obviously I don't know crap
about sports. I recognized

1873
02:01:28,770 --> 02:01:29,790
on it. We're working on it.

1874
02:01:30,540 --> 02:01:33,630
What Scottie Pippen though man,
that's an interesting dude. I

1875
02:01:33,630 --> 02:01:36,780
mean, especially with the deal
he signed and he No, it was

1876
02:01:36,780 --> 02:01:40,860
horrible. This really is I feel
I feel for him. He's very

1877
02:01:40,860 --> 02:01:43,620
interesting. Anyway, let me do
this mo karma with a goat screen

1878
02:01:43,620 --> 02:01:49,800
twist for you. Thank you very
much. There we go. Eric Coco

1879
02:01:49,800 --> 02:01:53,250
from Deutschland. We know him to
see $2 No, no, but thank you

1880
02:01:53,250 --> 02:01:56,280
very much, Eric. Dunker, Shin.
Dunker, shoot, and I should just

1881
02:01:56,280 --> 02:01:56,460
say,

1882
02:01:56,490 --> 02:02:00,510
Can I say one more thing. When
people write in, they don't send

1883
02:02:00,510 --> 02:02:03,360
a note. Just put no note in the
comment because I have an

1884
02:02:03,360 --> 02:02:07,080
anxiety that I'm gonna miss
somebody and I happen to shake

1885
02:02:07,200 --> 02:02:11,670
everywhere. Every combination
name, email address possible God

1886
02:02:11,670 --> 02:02:15,060
so just put, it'll save me a
bunch of time and take away the

1887
02:02:15,060 --> 02:02:17,580
anxiety that I don't want to
miss anybody. I know when you

1888
02:02:17,580 --> 02:02:20,370
guys write these notes that it
means a lot to you. So that's

1889
02:02:20,370 --> 02:02:25,650
why I'm very particular about
make sure I get people's voices

1890
02:02:25,650 --> 02:02:26,100
out there.

1891
02:02:26,549 --> 02:02:30,389
Well, Sir Johnny B did add a
note and he said 5150 which is

1892
02:02:30,389 --> 02:02:33,749
of course code for time to take
someone to the to the nuthouse.

1893
02:02:34,079 --> 02:02:37,439
How is it that people can gloss
over the obvious language of

1894
02:02:37,439 --> 02:02:40,529
white supremacy and all these
anti racist articles? It's

1895
02:02:40,529 --> 02:02:43,379
depressing me. I need some
sanity. Hope you guys are back

1896
02:02:43,379 --> 02:02:46,529
soon. Love you guys. That's
capital L realize you're out.

1897
02:02:46,739 --> 02:02:50,219
Thank you very much, sir Johnny
B. And here we are. Alan Adler

1898
02:02:50,219 --> 02:02:53,099
$50 love the show. He says
here's my contribution for your

1899
02:02:53,099 --> 02:02:57,599
new Glock nine millimeter give
bail blacks guns. Sir daddy of

1900
02:02:57,599 --> 02:03:00,989
the seven wonders $50 Mo. This
is a good faith donation for

1901
02:03:00,989 --> 02:03:03,959
value I've received but I need
you to understand I'm a proud

1902
02:03:03,959 --> 02:03:06,869
Southerner who owns a
confederate flag has pictures of

1903
02:03:06,869 --> 02:03:10,529
generally and Bedford for
decorating my house. And I'm a

1904
02:03:10,529 --> 02:03:13,829
student of southern history and
culture. I'm also half Korean

1905
02:03:13,829 --> 02:03:17,219
for what it's worth. There are
many good southern people who

1906
02:03:17,219 --> 02:03:20,159
are proud of their lineage. And
we're not white supremacists, or

1907
02:03:20,159 --> 02:03:23,819
anything like what the media
programs people to think about

1908
02:03:23,819 --> 02:03:26,729
Southerners. How many times have
you seen a good portrayal of a

1909
02:03:26,729 --> 02:03:30,389
redneck in the media news, TV or
movies? I'd love to talk history

1910
02:03:30,389 --> 02:03:32,699
and philosophy with you Mo and
maybe we can do a meet up

1911
02:03:32,699 --> 02:03:35,069
someday and have dinner and a
drink or two, I'm in Virginia.

1912
02:03:35,369 --> 02:03:37,799
But after your comments about
removing the Confederate

1913
02:03:37,799 --> 02:03:40,469
memorials because they were
terrorists, I needed to push

1914
02:03:40,469 --> 02:03:43,379
back on that completely
incorrect narrative. Well, I

1915
02:03:43,379 --> 02:03:46,199
disagree with you on more than a
couple of things. I've listened

1916
02:03:46,199 --> 02:03:48,629
to this podcast and going back
and listening to the archives

1917
02:03:48,629 --> 02:03:51,329
for shows I missed because I
want to better understand your

1918
02:03:51,329 --> 02:03:54,329
point of view. And I've learned
a lot and definitely received

1919
02:03:54,329 --> 02:03:56,849
value from your podcast, which
is why I need to return some

1920
02:03:56,849 --> 02:04:00,089
value to you. I think a lot of
folks would also benefit from

1921
02:04:00,089 --> 02:04:02,399
learning about the actual
history and culture of the old

1922
02:04:02,399 --> 02:04:05,579
South, we have a lot more in
common than the media would have

1923
02:04:05,579 --> 02:04:09,209
you think no surprise, at any
rate best to you and yours and

1924
02:04:09,209 --> 02:04:12,269
to Adam and all his folks are
daddio of the seven wonders

1925
02:04:12,389 --> 02:04:16,469
when I use the term terrorists.
I said by their own definition.

1926
02:04:16,469 --> 02:04:19,559
So people on the right I don't
want to assume that he's on the

1927
02:04:19,559 --> 02:04:22,769
right. But people on the right
often say if you go against your

1928
02:04:22,769 --> 02:04:25,979
country, you're treasonous and
you're a terrorist and you know

1929
02:04:25,979 --> 02:04:29,669
those things. So I'm just saying
by that definition that those

1930
02:04:29,669 --> 02:04:36,899
people set, then you have to
judge it the same way. To me I'm

1931
02:04:36,899 --> 02:04:43,199
not bought I'm not bothered by
the Confederate flag or civil

1932
02:04:43,199 --> 02:04:47,219
war. I actually say even said in
the show I mentioned that was I

1933
02:04:47,219 --> 02:04:51,029
have more understanding now
living in Virginia, because I

1934
02:04:51,029 --> 02:04:54,989
get to understand a little bit
better. Now. I will say this, he

1935
02:04:54,989 --> 02:04:57,899
said about lineage and that's
why I wrote my bill. I've never

1936
02:04:57,899 --> 02:05:02,099
said for anybody to deny their
lineage Actually, if you or

1937
02:05:02,099 --> 02:05:04,829
anybody you're saying, who's
listening to the show, that's

1938
02:05:04,829 --> 02:05:08,519
one of the things that irks me
the most, when people deny their

1939
02:05:08,519 --> 02:05:11,609
lineage, because that's why we
got on the whole passing thing.

1940
02:05:11,609 --> 02:05:15,269
It's like that's the, that's the
worst thing you could ever do is

1941
02:05:15,269 --> 02:05:19,109
deny where you came from. Yep.
So I mean, I can say, I believe,

1942
02:05:19,259 --> 02:05:25,019
as Trump said, there's good
people on both sides. But what I

1943
02:05:25,019 --> 02:05:29,819
mean by that is, you could be a
student of history or former

1944
02:05:29,819 --> 02:05:33,509
like, I mean, okay, so I found
out today, my great great, great

1945
02:05:33,509 --> 02:05:37,139
grandfather fought on the side
of the Confederate. I wouldn't

1946
02:05:37,139 --> 02:05:40,619
want him to be canceled. No, I
mean, I mean, I wouldn't want

1947
02:05:40,619 --> 02:05:46,949
now what I celebrate it, I'm not
sure. But I can't condemn

1948
02:05:48,239 --> 02:05:51,869
anybody that wants to celebrate
their lineage. I can't, I will

1949
02:05:51,869 --> 02:05:55,319
not. I hope that hope that
brings some further

1950
02:05:55,319 --> 02:05:57,719
understanding to why I met but
when I say use the word

1951
02:05:57,719 --> 02:06:02,039
terrorist, I'm going by the
debt, the rights definition of

1952
02:06:02,489 --> 02:06:05,669
when they throw the word around
terrorists or treasonous, or

1953
02:06:05,669 --> 02:06:07,979
those kinds of things. So that's
that's the point. I'm trying

1954
02:06:07,980 --> 02:06:10,800
I can't wait for the first mo
facts meet up in Virginia. I'm

1955
02:06:10,800 --> 02:06:14,280
going to be there. And I hope so
Daddy. Oh joins us. That'd be

1956
02:06:14,280 --> 02:06:20,130
fun. Thanks, Daddy. Oh, that $50
From Buford. coochie coochie coo

1957
02:06:20,160 --> 02:06:23,580
Jr. I should know how to
pronounce that Mo. I'm currently

1958
02:06:23,610 --> 02:06:26,370
working through a devastating
relationship crisis due to

1959
02:06:26,370 --> 02:06:29,610
questioning everything. I need
to do something that makes me

1960
02:06:29,610 --> 02:06:34,230
feel good. Here's my first slice
of value for value. We'll give

1961
02:06:34,230 --> 02:06:40,470
this guy a little relationship
mo karma sounds like a new deal

1962
02:06:40,470 --> 02:06:44,880
for Ashley Schmidt $60. I'd like
to make this donation in honor

1963
02:06:44,880 --> 02:06:48,780
of my 27th birthday on 711 which
happens to be the keepers

1964
02:06:48,780 --> 02:06:52,020
birthday as well. And remember,
on set if your birthday is on

1965
02:06:52,020 --> 02:06:57,360
711 you can get a free Slurpee
at 711. Also an honor of my

1966
02:06:57,360 --> 02:07:01,110
sister's wedding that day, which
is also the elevens Holy crap.

1967
02:07:01,410 --> 02:07:05,880
We missed that sorry. But
congratulations and happy

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02:07:05,880 --> 02:07:08,580
birthday. This show has
completely changed my life and

1969
02:07:08,580 --> 02:07:11,190
perspective. Thank you guys for
what you do. You are changing

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02:07:11,190 --> 02:07:13,560
people's lives. That's you
cannot give us a higher

1971
02:07:13,560 --> 02:07:18,540
compliment. Thank you. Ashley,
Hillary average of each li send

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02:07:18,540 --> 02:07:24,510
us $50 Thank you Timothy Cato
stay strapped or get clapped,

1973
02:07:24,690 --> 02:07:26,730
which he attributes to Sun Tzu.

1974
02:07:28,110 --> 02:07:28,980
Something like that. Yeah,

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02:07:28,980 --> 02:07:35,790
I guess anonymous $47 Which
would be typically a we're

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02:07:35,790 --> 02:07:37,860
probably gonna have to put in
limits pretty soon the length of

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02:07:37,860 --> 02:07:41,670
these notes and the number of
donations but this would be a

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02:07:41,670 --> 02:07:45,060
number to hide the identity
perfectly done anonymous GBG

1979
02:07:45,060 --> 02:07:48,210
keep me anonymous. Thanks for
what you do anyways, I found

1980
02:07:48,210 --> 02:07:53,010
this show from the road another
another random or another random

1981
02:07:53,010 --> 02:07:56,370
error? Yeah, I found the show
from the Rogan podcast after a

1982
02:07:56,370 --> 02:07:59,790
few episodes also found Adam
does that other show looking?

1983
02:07:59,820 --> 02:08:03,270
Oh, maybe he came here first.
Looking forward to more and I

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02:08:03,270 --> 02:08:06,480
glad I could provide some of
that government dollars to the

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02:08:06,480 --> 02:08:11,400
show. Thank you anonymous in
McAfee $43 In the morning most

1986
02:08:11,400 --> 02:08:14,460
so glad you two got together to
bring us more facts with Adam

1987
02:08:14,460 --> 02:08:16,530
curry. Love what you're doing
and how you do it. Keep them

1988
02:08:16,530 --> 02:08:19,800
coming. And thank you for your
courage. Thank you. Ian 3690

1989
02:08:20,010 --> 02:08:22,830
from Connor Lawrence in the
morning gentlemen. Love the

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02:08:22,830 --> 02:08:25,890
episode from last week. Mo if I
had any money I'd buy you a

1991
02:08:25,890 --> 02:08:34,050
javelin from cod What's that
Call of Duty? Yeah, brother.

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02:08:34,920 --> 02:08:35,430
Kim.

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02:08:36,210 --> 02:08:39,720
I just got a mental picture the
nerds are there with the with

1994
02:08:39,720 --> 02:08:40,350
the Javelin

1995
02:08:40,680 --> 02:08:44,310
takes a little further GB ml
give blacks missile launchers.

1996
02:08:44,310 --> 02:08:46,830
Okay, Adam, if you want one
you'll have to settle for a

1997
02:08:46,830 --> 02:08:52,380
harpoon gun named Dylan. This is
a das only the white guy gets

1998
02:08:52,380 --> 02:08:56,670
gypped on this I got a harpoon
gun. Also, harpoon gun named

1999
02:08:56,670 --> 02:09:00,270
Dylan sounds like a fan fiction
version of A Fish Called Wanda.

2000
02:09:00,480 --> 02:09:03,030
Anyway question from always says
what are your thoughts on the

2001
02:09:03,030 --> 02:09:06,930
Redskins? Finally caving on a
name change? Do you like any of

2002
02:09:06,930 --> 02:09:08,640
the rumored replacements?

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02:09:09,750 --> 02:09:14,520
Okay, let me break down this
whole risking thing just give

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02:09:14,520 --> 02:09:18,570
like in a minute. I think the
owner Schneider uses as

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02:09:18,570 --> 02:09:22,950
opportunity to use social
pressure to change the name. The

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02:09:22,950 --> 02:09:26,670
inside baseball on that is he
will not be allowed to bring the

2007
02:09:26,670 --> 02:09:30,720
team within Washington DC city
limits until he changed the name

2008
02:09:30,930 --> 02:09:36,300
which he has his eye on the RFA.
RFK old stadium so I think he

2009
02:09:36,300 --> 02:09:42,660
uses this coverage to his loyal
fans is hey, what am I doing? My

2010
02:09:42,660 --> 02:09:45,510
hands are tied. I had to change
the name. You know, Nike took

2011
02:09:45,510 --> 02:09:48,450
the apparel off and a couple
other companies to their

2012
02:09:48,450 --> 02:09:51,540
parallel until they changed the
name but I think they should

2013
02:09:51,540 --> 02:09:56,490
change the name to it just
Washington DC Yeah, leave it at

2014
02:09:56,490 --> 02:09:59,250
that. I mean that way I mean is
what what was

2015
02:09:59,250 --> 02:10:06,090
interesting is is the National
Association of a Native American

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02:10:06,360 --> 02:10:12,360
caregivers or caretakers or
something? I was reading a whole

2017
02:10:12,360 --> 02:10:16,440
article the most American
Indians I think they would like

2018
02:10:16,440 --> 02:10:23,160
to be called. They didn't like
it no one asked us like bullcrap

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02:10:23,190 --> 02:10:26,850
do some strong warrior they love
that and they have no problem

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02:10:26,850 --> 02:10:27,300
with it.

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02:10:27,840 --> 02:10:31,530
Let me give you a little insight
on that there are some tribes

2022
02:10:31,530 --> 02:10:34,440
that are getting their pockets
line and other tribe they're not

2023
02:10:34,470 --> 02:10:34,650
and

2024
02:10:35,250 --> 02:10:39,720
that's all it always comes down
to that of course all right. All

2025
02:10:39,720 --> 02:10:42,870
right now he says for Adam can
you actually name the team he

2026
02:10:42,870 --> 02:10:46,680
says can but I guess he names
can plays for yeah is the

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02:10:46,680 --> 02:10:48,060
Patriots Am I wrong?

2028
02:10:48,840 --> 02:10:51,660
Yes. Okay. Can you say you don't
know sports?

2029
02:10:51,750 --> 02:10:56,280
Exactly. Anyway, can the
pastor's blessed me and Elisa

2030
02:10:56,280 --> 02:11:00,300
was that sweet, sweet WUSA and
goat mo karma pretty pleased you

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02:11:00,300 --> 02:11:00,660
back

2032
02:11:10,230 --> 02:11:14,790
at reverse Musa There you go.
Thank you very much. Connor Paul

2033
02:11:14,790 --> 02:11:19,200
Arsenault. Please buy a brother
some bullets for 357 That's all

2034
02:11:19,200 --> 02:11:24,900
I can afford right now. Mo Thank
you ball. John Mahalla 3333

2035
02:11:24,900 --> 02:11:28,290
monad them not only is 3333 the
magic number it also represents

2036
02:11:28,290 --> 02:11:32,190
33 1/3 RPM for vinyl records.
I've enjoyed hearing a different

2037
02:11:32,190 --> 02:11:35,460
perspective on Kanye, Tupac and
others in your podcast. It's

2038
02:11:35,460 --> 02:11:38,070
given me a greater understanding
and appreciation of music from

2039
02:11:38,100 --> 02:11:42,870
Athos artists a few weeks ago, I
was visiting Tyron North Tyronn

2040
02:11:42,900 --> 02:11:48,030
Tyron. Oh, try on I'm sorry. I
know Canada, I don't know try

2041
02:11:48,030 --> 02:11:50,730
him. Try on North Carolina,
which happens to be the

2042
02:11:50,820 --> 02:11:55,410
birthplace of Nina Simone. Turns
out, she was an outspoken civil

2043
02:11:55,410 --> 02:11:58,140
rights activist who was both a
friend and neighbor to Malcolm

2044
02:11:58,140 --> 02:12:01,320
X. Now when I listened to Nina
Simone in concert, the Civil

2045
02:12:01,320 --> 02:12:04,230
Rights overtones which seemed to
be lost and much of the audience

2046
02:12:04,230 --> 02:12:07,290
on the record, are glaringly
obvious to me. I'd love to hear

2047
02:12:07,290 --> 02:12:10,050
some more episodes explore the
role and impact of music on the

2048
02:12:10,050 --> 02:12:12,810
civil rights movement. But for
now, I'm sure there are higher

2049
02:12:12,810 --> 02:12:15,810
priorities. Either way, I'll
still be listening thanks again

2050
02:12:15,810 --> 02:12:18,600
for all the value you give that
that's that is I love Nina

2051
02:12:18,600 --> 02:12:23,340
Simone. Two years Dame Jennifer
Jennifer Buchanan the new studio

2052
02:12:23,340 --> 02:12:28,350
sounds great. Yes, Mo your sound
is fantastic now it's nice and

2053
02:12:28,350 --> 02:12:31,680
quiet. Glad the move went well.
I'll keep propagating the food

2054
02:12:31,680 --> 02:12:34,620
for thought. I definitely made
some progress on my last no

2055
02:12:34,620 --> 02:12:38,160
agenda meet up in June to be
honest, it's an easy sell with

2056
02:12:38,160 --> 02:12:41,490
excellent material that you keep
presenting XOXO Dame Jennifer,

2057
02:12:41,490 --> 02:12:43,980
thank you damn, Jennifer, and
she already helps us so much.

2058
02:12:44,250 --> 02:12:46,860
And I was gonna say that that's
not the only value that she

2059
02:12:46,860 --> 02:12:51,750
provided, so she should be away
for the list. Thank you, James.

2060
02:12:51,750 --> 02:12:52,260
Jennifer.

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02:12:53,520 --> 02:12:58,860
Yes, this seems to be sticking
the J Magana for Sonya pain 3232

2062
02:12:58,860 --> 02:13:02,040
Happy 32 birthday to my smokin
hot husband, Nathan Payne from

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02:13:02,040 --> 02:13:05,790
Penn Paragon, Indiana. Couples
that listen to mo facts

2064
02:13:05,790 --> 02:13:09,720
together, stay together indeed.
And happy birthday to him Sonya,

2065
02:13:09,720 --> 02:13:13,500
Gabriel HARO, $30 learning much
more on this podcast than I did

2066
02:13:13,500 --> 02:13:16,860
in high school or college.
Ditto. Can there be a podcast on

2067
02:13:16,860 --> 02:13:23,460
the link of Christmas and Saturn
Alia? Maybe Ginebra No. Seems

2068
02:13:23,460 --> 02:13:26,310
like we're celebrating a pagan
or Luciferian holiday

2069
02:13:26,310 --> 02:13:34,050
unknowingly maybe Chris Grom all
$25 Hey mo love the show you say

2070
02:13:34,050 --> 02:13:36,540
that it always starts with black
people. Well, even alien

2071
02:13:36,540 --> 02:13:40,320
abduction started with a black
guy check out the Betty and

2072
02:13:40,320 --> 02:13:45,990
Barney Hill case. Coincidence? I
think not. Damn it, man. We just

2073
02:13:45,990 --> 02:13:49,800
can't keep up first to be
abducted by aliens. Hold that

2074
02:13:49,800 --> 02:13:54,690
door open. Here we come. Adrian
Magnusson white $25 Thanks Mona

2075
02:13:54,690 --> 02:13:56,910
Adam for continuing to open my
eyes love the show and

2076
02:13:56,910 --> 02:13:59,940
everything stands for from
Adrienne and Sarah Magnus and

2077
02:13:59,940 --> 02:14:05,670
white $25 from Chef Elvis
Rosenberg Thank you John Taylor.

2078
02:14:05,670 --> 02:14:10,830
2020 and Eric off $20 William
smock $20 Hey mo Do you think

2079
02:14:10,830 --> 02:14:13,860
black folks can distinguish
between a racist and a hole went

2080
02:14:13,860 --> 02:14:17,100
out in the in the world when I
run into a white jerk I think a

2081
02:14:17,130 --> 02:14:19,710
hole but if I was treated the
same and I was black, I might

2082
02:14:19,710 --> 02:14:20,640
think racist.

2083
02:14:21,690 --> 02:14:25,440
Yeah, we can. I would think so.
Easy. Yeah.

2084
02:14:25,469 --> 02:14:27,929
And I don't think you're always
looking to see if someone's

2085
02:14:27,929 --> 02:14:31,379
racist. You see if someone's in
a hole before anything. I would

2086
02:14:31,469 --> 02:14:34,079
borrow a chance to get a hold
and racist marker she

2087
02:14:34,080 --> 02:14:37,830
just does happen. Carlo Romero
$20. Quick North Carolina

2088
02:14:37,830 --> 02:14:41,310
centric survey do preferred
little brother or PD Pablo.

2089
02:14:43,920 --> 02:14:46,860
Little Brothers better PD. Pablo
got the biggest hit out of North

2090
02:14:46,860 --> 02:14:48,720
Carolina ever. Take your shirt
off

2091
02:14:49,080 --> 02:14:53,190
$20 from Ashanti Hill, G
MacDonald says thanks for the

2092
02:14:53,190 --> 02:14:58,620
great podcast. Andrew McPeak
1776 a clear signal in honor of

2093
02:14:58,620 --> 02:15:01,620
the Fourth of July show Moe you
continue to enlighten the

2094
02:15:01,620 --> 02:15:04,770
masses. I'm embarking on some
new books based off the show.

2095
02:15:04,770 --> 02:15:07,860
We'll be starting Malcolm's
autobiography once it arrives

2096
02:15:07,860 --> 02:15:10,740
and digging into the Black
Panthers. After that we were all

2097
02:15:10,740 --> 02:15:15,630
lied to in school. Hey, join the
party. Andrew. I asked this

2098
02:15:15,630 --> 02:15:19,080
question to producer Jim during
the GBG show, why is no one ever

2099
02:15:19,080 --> 02:15:21,810
asked the question as to why
Sharpton and Jackson had been

2100
02:15:21,810 --> 02:15:24,960
able to operate in complete
safety for the last 40 years,

2101
02:15:25,140 --> 02:15:28,620
but Malcolm King seals Newton,
Evers, etc who were all for

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02:15:28,620 --> 02:15:30,240
progression of the black
community were either

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02:15:30,240 --> 02:15:34,740
assassinated or put in prison. I
pause for most comment

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02:15:37,260 --> 02:15:41,940
or you not an asset to yourself.
We don't want progress we want

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02:15:41,940 --> 02:15:44,940
you know, we want to pull a pond
not progress.

2106
02:15:45,120 --> 02:15:50,670
Ponds not progress. There you
go. On a side note, have you

2107
02:15:50,670 --> 02:15:54,870
watched Malcolm X Docu series on
Netflix? The gentleness? Is it

2108
02:15:54,870 --> 02:15:56,520
good? I have not watched it yet.
Is it good?

2109
02:15:57,030 --> 02:16:00,180
Yes, it is. It's depressing, but
it's good. Okay, good.

2110
02:16:02,280 --> 02:16:04,770
Well, thank you very much,
Andrew and thank you for the

2111
02:16:04,770 --> 02:16:08,310
support David Smith. 1619
another message loving the show

2112
02:16:08,310 --> 02:16:12,480
MO You are changing my opinion
on a great many things. David

2113
02:16:12,480 --> 02:16:15,630
Driscoll 1533 intellectual
reparations. Thank you for the

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02:16:15,630 --> 02:16:21,540
truth. theater, theater or Poppy
anon No, I think 1333 Ted from

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02:16:21,540 --> 02:16:25,590
PA for several months found Adam
through JRE no agenda helped me

2116
02:16:25,590 --> 02:16:30,900
and my pregnant silent smokin
hot wife make it through some

2117
02:16:30,900 --> 02:16:33,870
tough and uncertain times. Moe
facts is another beacon of

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02:16:33,870 --> 02:16:37,950
greats sense making an
entertainment 1333 Because my

2119
02:16:37,950 --> 02:16:41,070
mom had a dream about that
number. And what better place to

2120
02:16:41,070 --> 02:16:44,460
put my speculation about its
meaning than donating to YouTube

2121
02:16:44,460 --> 02:16:47,640
for the first time. More to come
after we have our son thank you

2122
02:16:47,640 --> 02:16:51,780
and can I please get a Woosah
mix goat? No karma you you got

2123
02:16:51,780 --> 02:17:00,210
it. We'll do your some Musa here
with a goat we're nearing the

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02:17:00,210 --> 02:17:01,080
end here.

2125
02:17:01,410 --> 02:17:04,110
Can I stop you right there
because this has to go with the

2126
02:17:04,110 --> 02:17:07,710
people under $10. Okay, so you
know you say you want to shorten

2127
02:17:07,710 --> 02:17:10,620
the list just to shorten the
show up. So we're going to have

2128
02:17:10,620 --> 02:17:13,950
a cut off soon. Okay, well, I
will say this is just my

2129
02:17:13,950 --> 02:17:19,980
recommendation. Everybody that
donates are between one penny

2130
02:17:20,940 --> 02:17:24,990
and $9.99 we do a pick three
number because this guy right

2131
02:17:24,990 --> 02:17:29,820
here this led me to this in the
black community. Number running

2132
02:17:29,820 --> 02:17:32,640
numbers is like and playing
numbers is like a big thing.

2133
02:17:33,810 --> 02:17:37,260
Okay, it's the picture it's the
pic three and a dream number a

2134
02:17:37,290 --> 02:17:40,380
lot of women and men say oh
train dream net number and

2135
02:17:40,380 --> 02:17:43,950
they'll play it right so maybe
we just have one lucky person

2136
02:17:44,490 --> 02:17:51,810
that hits that number Okay,
we'll read their note that way

2137
02:17:51,810 --> 02:17:55,290
we will hear from everybody we
everybody has voice so in this

2138
02:17:55,290 --> 02:17:56,430
just just not do

2139
02:17:56,580 --> 02:17:59,550
so this is lucky three is this
we can get a 711 that lucky

2140
02:17:59,550 --> 02:18:00,960
three numbers yes

2141
02:18:00,990 --> 02:18:03,600
pick three pick three is what
caught this pick three but I

2142
02:18:03,600 --> 02:18:03,960
mean,

2143
02:18:04,170 --> 02:18:06,660
I didn't know I didn't know. I
didn't know it's a big eight off

2144
02:18:06,660 --> 02:18:07,560
thing that pick three

2145
02:18:07,559 --> 02:18:11,759
Yeah. No, but what we'll see it
was not from like the state

2146
02:18:11,759 --> 02:18:16,649
lottery. It was the number run
Max Yeah, so Malcolm X was a

2147
02:18:16,649 --> 02:18:22,229
number runner and loved it this
Yes. So I'm just an idea y'all

2148
02:18:22,229 --> 02:18:24,389
let me know with this. Well,
it's just so we always can hear

2149
02:18:24,389 --> 02:18:30,029
from I vote in favor up. Yeah,
okay. All right. Let's improve.

2150
02:18:30,240 --> 02:18:33,000
Good. Yeah, well, we'll have to
do that because otherwise it's

2151
02:18:33,000 --> 02:18:35,790
just a lot of show Steven
McConnell thanks for the sanity

2152
02:18:35,790 --> 02:18:40,080
says with 1111 Running numbers
himself there. Kevin ROA $10

2153
02:18:40,080 --> 02:18:44,910
value for value. Air Con Octomom
thanks for I'm just gonna do

2154
02:18:44,910 --> 02:18:47,430
them all for today. Well $10
Thanks, man. I

2155
02:18:47,430 --> 02:18:49,740
don't know that's fine. Yeah,
but moving forward. Yeah,

2156
02:18:49,890 --> 02:18:51,990
absolutely. Really enjoy

2157
02:18:51,990 --> 02:18:55,620
every minute of this keep it up
much love fun from Berlin new

2158
02:18:55,620 --> 02:19:00,690
canoe cone. Okay. Derrick
McNulty $10 Wish I could pay

2159
02:19:00,690 --> 02:19:03,060
more it's fine. That's great
value for us. Love the show

2160
02:19:03,060 --> 02:19:05,520
Bobby flush $10 Thanks for
spreading so much needed

2161
02:19:05,520 --> 02:19:10,080
knowledge Harkin riders 759 show
support to the note on Twitter

2162
02:19:10,080 --> 02:19:14,760
best Dan, did you see the
anything on Twitter? probably

2163
02:19:14,760 --> 02:19:16,290
missed it. Andrew.

2164
02:19:16,350 --> 02:19:18,960
I'll get him next show. I'm
sorry about that. I couldn't

2165
02:19:18,960 --> 02:19:21,480
find it but I'll set up the
senator again. All I had to do.

2166
02:19:21,809 --> 02:19:24,209
Twitter is not a great place to
leave your note. That's for

2167
02:19:24,209 --> 02:19:27,929
sure. Andrew McPeak $5 mo my
first donation was held up I

2168
02:19:27,929 --> 02:19:31,859
emailed you about it we
appreciate that Andrew M fun to

2169
02:19:31,859 --> 02:19:36,479
belt Hi sorry for the racism
donation last made me think

2170
02:19:36,479 --> 02:19:39,809
about how I as a simple Dutch
guy could chip in so here's my

2171
02:19:39,809 --> 02:19:44,099
sorry for Black Pete donation.
This the Dutch with their Black

2172
02:19:44,099 --> 02:19:48,179
Pete I will start looking for a
room for further self discipline

2173
02:19:48,179 --> 02:19:52,859
and keep spreading the Gospel
says Martin. That's a switch

2174
02:19:52,889 --> 02:19:57,389
like the it's a long story Black
Pete is a whole nother thing but

2175
02:19:57,389 --> 02:20:00,989
if you want to know more about
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in the non

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Black Pete may have represented
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Absolutely. Absolutely. That's
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to be important which

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Thank you Kevin la Landry $5
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from pa again another number
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this this is what led me to my
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to you contributed so I'm going
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gonna need some lotto lotto
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i Okay, I gotta go. I don't have
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a lot of ball machine in here.
Right? Well, these people have

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helped all of you have helped
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02:21:07,799 --> 02:21:11,219
with Adam curry. It's very
simple. What did What value did

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you get from this and the two or
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show. Just whatever you compare
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for every individual which is
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program because you put in and
when what you put in you get out

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of it and what you get out of
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makes you producers and of
course we will have our

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Associate Executive producers
and executive producers listed

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02:21:34,739 --> 02:21:37,469
proudly in the show notes which
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02:21:37,469 --> 02:21:42,689
facts.com. And you can support
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02:21:42,689 --> 02:21:47,699
to directly to the donation page
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FUNDM me.com. And thank you all
for producing episode 43.

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Well, I like to appreciate I'm
sure everybody appreciation for

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02:22:02,640 --> 02:22:06,510
the value for value that they
gave us another person given now

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02:22:06,510 --> 02:22:11,760
that you is Mr. George Soros.
With a number of $200 million

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02:22:13,350 --> 02:22:17,670
press release, Open Society
Foundations announced $220

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02:22:17,670 --> 02:22:22,290
million for building power in
black communities. To support

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02:22:22,290 --> 02:22:25,920
this nation's historic movement
towards racial justice. The Open

2213
02:22:25,920 --> 02:22:29,460
Society Foundations today is
announcing investments totaling

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02:22:29,460 --> 02:22:33,840
$220 million in emerging
organizations and leaders

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02:22:33,840 --> 02:22:36,900
building power and black
communities across the country,

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02:22:37,230 --> 02:22:41,280
placing a bet on their ability
to carry today's momentum toward

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02:22:41,280 --> 02:22:45,870
a better tomorrow. The largest
share of the support 150 million

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02:22:45,900 --> 02:22:49,560
will be through a set of five
year grants to black LED justice

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02:22:49,560 --> 02:22:52,650
organizations that helped to
create and now sustain the

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02:22:52,650 --> 02:22:56,130
momentum towards racial
equality. Open society's

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02:22:56,130 --> 02:23:00,000
response reflects our conviction
that real progress requires

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02:23:00,000 --> 02:23:03,180
sustained support over many
years and letting leaders

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02:23:03,180 --> 02:23:06,330
accountable to impacted
communities shaped the path

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02:23:06,330 --> 02:23:11,070
forward. Quote, It is inspiring
and powerful to experience this

2225
02:23:11,070 --> 02:23:14,340
transformational moment in the
Racial Justice Movement said

2226
02:23:14,340 --> 02:23:18,090
Open Society Foundations
President Patrick Gaspard we're

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02:23:18,090 --> 02:23:21,270
honored to be able to carry on
the vital work of fighting for

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02:23:21,270 --> 02:23:25,440
rights, dignity and equity for
oppressed people the world over

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02:23:25,470 --> 02:23:28,740
started by our founder and chair
George Soros.

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02:23:28,920 --> 02:23:31,920
Yes, this show would have been
two hours long had I not tossed

2231
02:23:31,920 --> 02:23:34,530
that one into into Mo's lap.

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02:23:34,860 --> 02:23:38,820
Yeah, we probably got a lot of
students. Thank you, Adam. But

2233
02:23:39,540 --> 02:23:44,820
200 plus million dollars and gas
bar, the guy that runs open

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02:23:44,820 --> 02:23:47,940
society. You remember when Joe
Biden said to you if you're not

2235
02:23:47,970 --> 02:23:51,360
you're not black if you don't
vote for Joe Biden? Yes, I

2236
02:23:51,360 --> 02:23:55,650
recall he he came out with a
very simple sympathetic towards

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02:23:55,650 --> 02:23:59,580
Joe. And now understand why
because they were going to kick

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02:23:59,580 --> 02:24:01,470
out $200 million to get Joe
elected.

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02:24:02,790 --> 02:24:05,370
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. 220
Actually,

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02:24:05,400 --> 02:24:10,230
yep. Right to so 220 That's
amazing. And they're gonna go to

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02:24:11,520 --> 02:24:14,490
I just can't get my head around
that number. That's, that's a

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02:24:14,490 --> 02:24:18,360
lot of freaking money. And like,
where's it going to? Who are

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02:24:18,360 --> 02:24:21,840
these groups? These justice
groups? Of course, they're going

2244
02:24:21,840 --> 02:24:25,650
to getting the source this does
it like because we've covered

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02:24:25,650 --> 02:24:30,510
that in previous shows where
George Soros is enjoying getting

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02:24:31,890 --> 02:24:38,070
non white or left leaning white
district attorneys preferably

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02:24:38,070 --> 02:24:39,960
Yes, female we just

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02:24:39,960 --> 02:24:44,040
got one in Austin, although not
female, but there was huge

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02:24:44,070 --> 02:24:49,080
$600,000 That came from Soros
political action committee that

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helped the new da

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02:24:51,600 --> 02:24:56,700
Yes, so that mean that's that's
Sorrell sisters all day and you

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02:24:56,700 --> 02:25:02,040
spell that dollar sign o r o
dollar sign. dollar sign. And I

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02:25:02,040 --> 02:25:07,050
dollars. I mean $1 sign dollar
sign, dollar sign T $1 sign. So

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02:25:07,050 --> 02:25:10,410
that's enough dollar signs for
you that's Soro sisters, that's

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02:25:10,410 --> 02:25:12,780
how you spell this, right?
Because there's, there's all

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02:25:12,780 --> 02:25:16,230
there, that's all there about is
their dollars at the end of the

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02:25:16,230 --> 02:25:22,290
day. And you can see this brand,
this black branding that Patrice

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02:25:22,320 --> 02:25:28,440
alluded to, in her previous clip
is about just giving cover for

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02:25:28,440 --> 02:25:32,850
these corporations and these
quasi governmental

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02:25:33,300 --> 02:25:36,840
agents office. So part of it is
licensing. I mean, it really is

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02:25:36,870 --> 02:25:40,560
not just moral licensing, but
actual licensing. And believe

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02:25:40,560 --> 02:25:46,230
me, black, black Inc, has it has
it locked down locked up. This

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02:25:46,230 --> 02:25:49,230
really, these nonprofits, I've
looked into them. And I don't

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02:25:49,230 --> 02:25:51,960
know, if you want to go into a
mo or what we need to discuss.

2265
02:25:51,960 --> 02:25:56,370
But these, these very small to
person nonprofits, similar to

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02:25:56,370 --> 02:25:59,970
the Patrisse, Cullors, kind of
initial Black Lives Matter

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02:25:59,970 --> 02:26:05,160
startup, then there's a larger
organization, which is more of a

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02:26:05,160 --> 02:26:10,110
clearing house. And a lot of
these organizations do that. For

2269
02:26:10,110 --> 02:26:14,430
instance, the Austin Justice
Coalition, very small, they say

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02:26:14,430 --> 02:26:17,670
they're nonprofit, but they're
not really they have a, what

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02:26:17,670 --> 02:26:21,900
they call a, there's a special
kind of agreement, which I

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02:26:21,900 --> 02:26:25,680
questioned if that should be
legal or not, where a bigger

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02:26:25,680 --> 02:26:28,740
nonprofit with all the back
office can actually do all that

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02:26:28,740 --> 02:26:32,040
work for you. But you give them
money to them. And they can if

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02:26:32,040 --> 02:26:35,190
they want earmark some of it,
according to the agreement to go

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02:26:35,190 --> 02:26:38,520
for other things. And it's also
it's just completely goggles

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02:26:38,520 --> 02:26:40,470
carry goggles.

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02:26:41,760 --> 02:26:45,390
It's nuts. The thing is, it's so
not transparent.

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02:26:46,440 --> 02:26:50,610
All right. I know, I know. I
don't know what, let's get into

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02:26:50,610 --> 02:26:53,100
the second clip about open
society. And now like the

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02:26:53,100 --> 02:26:59,730
mission that is written it is
read by James Jennifer. Yes,

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02:26:59,790 --> 02:27:04,020
we recognize that the struggle
to dismantle systemic racism is

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02:27:04,020 --> 02:27:08,010
an ongoing one. It has existed
from the dawn of the Republic to

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02:27:08,010 --> 02:27:11,790
the present day and is embedded
in every level of government and

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02:27:11,790 --> 02:27:15,180
in our penal and justice
systems. But the power surge of

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02:27:15,180 --> 02:27:17,910
people who have taken to the
streets to demand that this

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02:27:17,910 --> 02:27:21,690
nation do better people of all
ages, from all backgrounds and

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02:27:21,690 --> 02:27:25,260
in every corner of this country
gives hope to us all. The

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02:27:25,260 --> 02:27:28,980
success of this movement, the
largest in US history will be

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02:27:28,980 --> 02:27:32,910
measured over years, not weeks.
And we cannot say that black

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02:27:32,910 --> 02:27:35,910
lives matter and not make a
multi year commitment to a

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02:27:35,910 --> 02:27:39,930
strategy set by and centering
black leaders and organizations

2293
02:27:39,930 --> 02:27:43,410
who changed America sense of
what is possible, said Tom

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02:27:43,410 --> 02:27:48,300
Paralia, Executive Director of
open society us recipients of

2295
02:27:48,300 --> 02:27:51,300
this set of investments range
from emerging groups to more

2296
02:27:51,330 --> 02:27:55,650
established forces for civil
rights. Among them, black voters

2297
02:27:55,650 --> 02:27:59,910
matter circle for justice
innovations, repairers of the

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02:27:59,910 --> 02:28:04,050
breach, and the Equal Justice
Initiative. Some are fighting

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02:28:04,050 --> 02:28:06,960
for an end to policing as we
know it, and others are fighting

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02:28:06,960 --> 02:28:09,690
for access to the ballot.
Collectively, these

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02:28:09,690 --> 02:28:13,440
organizations make up a vital
ecosystem of justice one that's

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02:28:13,440 --> 02:28:16,830
poised to harness the
extraordinary energy of today

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02:28:16,920 --> 02:28:19,710
and ensure it results in
meaningful reform.

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02:28:22,320 --> 02:28:26,610
So there you have it. Soros is
shelling out the cash. And when

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02:28:26,610 --> 02:28:30,240
you said this, when we said this
over a year, almost a year ago,

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02:28:30,570 --> 02:28:34,230
people roll their eyes like all
sorrows. Everything is so gross,

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02:28:34,230 --> 02:28:40,620
but it is not like I said, Sir,
I was just drew the short straw.

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02:28:40,860 --> 02:28:42,750
He He's the

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02:28:42,750 --> 02:28:44,400
mascot to do it, man. You

2310
02:28:44,400 --> 02:28:50,610
got to do it. Right. Um, he drew
the short straw. Now he's had to

2311
02:28:50,610 --> 02:28:53,850
have his name out there. But
it's funny what organization

2312
02:28:53,850 --> 02:28:57,600
wasn't mentioned in that whole
rundown? It wasn't black lives

2313
02:28:57,600 --> 02:29:03,090
matter. I found that very
interesting that is it that

2314
02:29:03,090 --> 02:29:04,560
they're trying to remain?

2315
02:29:05,250 --> 02:29:13,860
Well, again, no. There's one of
these nonprofits. If you look at

2316
02:29:13,860 --> 02:29:17,100
them, and I look at the form 990
I just forget which one it is to

2317
02:29:17,100 --> 02:29:18,420
think the second one on the
list.

2318
02:29:18,570 --> 02:29:21,210
And let's tell people what that
is. That's the CCC, right?

2319
02:29:21,210 --> 02:29:23,250
That's a carry cash Chase. Yes.

2320
02:29:24,390 --> 02:29:28,410
Excuse me. So every nonprofit
has to report their operations

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02:29:28,890 --> 02:29:34,200
in the end is called an IRS Form
990. Now a very small ones under

2322
02:29:34,200 --> 02:29:37,620
$200,000 can file an easy form,
which to give you almost no

2323
02:29:37,620 --> 02:29:40,710
information. But on the form,
you can see how much money they

2324
02:29:40,710 --> 02:29:44,100
brought in what they spent what
they spent it on. It rarely

2325
02:29:44,100 --> 02:29:49,950
gives you the actual donors and
how that money comes in. And

2326
02:29:49,950 --> 02:29:53,010
it's not necessarily a
requirement although over

2327
02:29:53,010 --> 02:29:56,220
certain levels it is, but it's
all hidden, but it gives you

2328
02:29:56,220 --> 02:29:58,680
some transparency at least gives
you an idea of what people are

2329
02:29:58,680 --> 02:30:01,890
making what their expenses are.
And I have a pretty good feel

2330
02:30:01,890 --> 02:30:04,740
for these kinds of things. And
there's one particular, there's

2331
02:30:04,740 --> 02:30:07,200
one particular kind of
nonprofit, which is, you know,

2332
02:30:07,200 --> 02:30:08,880
we don't know the division
either I don't think it's

2333
02:30:08,880 --> 02:30:11,010
equally divided, they're
probably getting the bulk of the

2334
02:30:11,010 --> 02:30:14,160
money. And that's the type of
nonprofit that has a bunch of

2335
02:30:14,160 --> 02:30:19,500
people who maintain a fund. So
this nonprofit brings money in

2336
02:30:19,500 --> 02:30:22,230
its donors. And of course, it's
the people who are running the

2337
02:30:22,230 --> 02:30:24,780
nonprofit at the same time, a
lot of them are financial years

2338
02:30:24,780 --> 02:30:28,860
hedge fund people. And so they
can all stand around and say,

2339
02:30:28,860 --> 02:30:32,040
Look, we did a good job, because
they give the money out. So they

2340
02:30:32,220 --> 02:30:34,950
take the money in from the from
the big sources, and they pass

2341
02:30:34,950 --> 02:30:38,610
it on. And that is, in fact,
their charity is the operating

2342
02:30:38,610 --> 02:30:42,870
of the charity. So you can slosh
a lot of stuff to a lot of

2343
02:30:42,870 --> 02:30:46,560
people, particularly if you have
one of these financial

2344
02:30:46,560 --> 02:30:51,270
agreements, where your nonprofit
is taking care of the legal

2345
02:30:51,270 --> 02:30:56,820
taking care of the HR, the
payroll for the smaller groups,

2346
02:30:57,030 --> 02:31:01,350
like, well, in fact, some of the
Black Lives Matter chapters, and

2347
02:31:01,350 --> 02:31:07,590
it's a pass through. So outfits,
like the Open Society Institute,

2348
02:31:08,010 --> 02:31:11,340
can donate this money it goes in
and you know, they could have a

2349
02:31:11,430 --> 02:31:13,830
meeting over coffee and say,
Hey, make sure you give it to

2350
02:31:13,830 --> 02:31:16,980
them or to them. I mean, that's,
there's no transparency over

2351
02:31:16,980 --> 02:31:20,130
that process at this point.
Other than here's the money

2352
02:31:20,130 --> 02:31:23,160
going in, here's where it went
in and look who's on the street.

2353
02:31:23,760 --> 02:31:26,310
And that's really what you can
then learn.

2354
02:31:27,780 --> 02:31:30,720
Well, people are starting to ask
questions. And one of the

2355
02:31:30,720 --> 02:31:33,510
question you're asking is how
Black Lives Matter is being

2356
02:31:33,510 --> 02:31:33,930
funded.

2357
02:31:34,890 --> 02:31:40,140
Black Lives Matter global
network foundation. That's the

2358
02:31:40,140 --> 02:31:50,310
organization. They get millions
of dollars, but but they are not

2359
02:31:50,910 --> 02:31:56,100
approved as a tax exempt
organization. So if you give

2360
02:31:56,100 --> 02:32:03,240
them money on paper, you could
not deduct it. So according to

2361
02:32:03,240 --> 02:32:05,880
The Washington Times
investigation, George Soros

2362
02:32:05,880 --> 02:32:10,260
since 2015, it's given Black
Lives Matter global network

2363
02:32:10,260 --> 02:32:16,920
Foundation, $33 million. And on
paper, he can't write it off.

2364
02:32:17,520 --> 02:32:24,360
But he can't. Now here it comes.
So the Black Lives Matter global

2365
02:32:24,390 --> 02:32:29,640
network. Okay, incorporated in
Delaware. Joe Biden's home state

2366
02:32:30,630 --> 02:32:38,220
has forged in alliance with a
group called 1000 currents, 1000

2367
02:32:38,220 --> 02:32:44,610
currents, C U R, R e, n t s
1000. Currents. They're in

2368
02:32:44,610 --> 02:32:50,100
Oakland, California. They are
run by a guy named Paul stress.

2369
02:32:50,130 --> 02:32:55,230
Berg. Let's see Paul. Far left
way, way left.

2370
02:32:57,720 --> 02:33:04,500
I did a deep deep dive into 1000
currents. Can I depart on this

2371
02:33:04,500 --> 02:33:07,830
and I tell you what I learned?
Please do please, I've been

2372
02:33:07,830 --> 02:33:12,540
waiting. In light of this show.
Unless you already know this, it

2373
02:33:12,540 --> 02:33:19,080
will be quite shocking to you
1000 currents. Now, there, the

2374
02:33:19,080 --> 02:33:22,080
information is always going to
be behind because, you know,

2375
02:33:22,110 --> 02:33:27,870
2018 taxes were filed. They
don't have 19. So we really have

2376
02:33:27,900 --> 02:33:33,810
we won't know about 2020 until
2021. But they're about a six to

2377
02:33:33,810 --> 02:33:38,730
$7 million that they brought in.
What's interesting about the

2378
02:33:39,030 --> 02:33:43,500
1000 currents is it's a name
change, it was rebranded around

2379
02:33:43,500 --> 02:33:51,840
2015 20 1314. I can't tell
exactly. And the executive

2380
02:33:51,840 --> 02:33:56,310
director was removed, it used to
be known as the ID x, which was

2381
02:33:56,310 --> 02:34:00,840
the international development
exchange was run by an Indian

2382
02:34:00,870 --> 02:34:06,060
Indian lady. And they they
really, as they even current or

2383
02:34:06,090 --> 02:34:10,290
1000 current say they're really
involved with the southern

2384
02:34:10,290 --> 02:34:17,010
hemisphere Africa with deprive
groups, etc. But it's not

2385
02:34:17,010 --> 02:34:19,590
necessarily that, in fact, not
very much about black lives

2386
02:34:19,590 --> 02:34:23,190
matter at all. Other than that,
they do the processing for them.

2387
02:34:23,550 --> 02:34:26,940
But what's interesting is you
can learn from the form 990,

2388
02:34:26,970 --> 02:34:30,480
about the board of directors,
and, you know, if they're

2389
02:34:30,480 --> 02:34:33,930
getting paid at all salaries are
listed. And I decided to take a

2390
02:34:33,930 --> 02:34:36,870
look at some of these Board of
Director members and the vice

2391
02:34:36,870 --> 02:34:42,840
chair of the board of directors
is Susan Rosenberg. Susan Lisa

2392
02:34:42,840 --> 02:34:47,610
Rosenberg. Have you ever heard
of her Mo? No, I have not. Well,

2393
02:34:47,940 --> 02:34:53,370
Susan Rosenberg, born in 1955 is
an American activist, writer and

2394
02:34:53,370 --> 02:34:57,420
advocate for social justice and
prisoners rights from the late

2395
02:34:57,420 --> 02:35:02,100
1970s to the mid 1980s Rosa Berg
was active in the far left

2396
02:35:02,100 --> 02:35:06,990
revolutionary terrorist may 19
Communist organization, also

2397
02:35:06,990 --> 02:35:11,160
known as M. 19, which according
to the contemptuous FBI report,

2398
02:35:11,310 --> 02:35:14,430
openly advocated the overthrow
of the US government through

2399
02:35:14,430 --> 02:35:19,230
armed struggle and the use of
violence. And M 19 provided

2400
02:35:19,230 --> 02:35:23,250
support to an offshoot of the
Black Liberation Army, including

2401
02:35:23,340 --> 02:35:27,030
sounding familiar, including an
armored truck robberies and

2402
02:35:27,030 --> 02:35:29,880
later engaged in bombings and
government buildings. Some of us

2403
02:35:29,880 --> 02:35:33,030
will remember if you are around
after living as a fugitive for

2404
02:35:33,030 --> 02:35:35,820
two years, Rosenberg was
arrested in 1984. While in

2405
02:35:35,820 --> 02:35:38,820
possession of a large cache of
explosives and firearms.

2406
02:35:38,820 --> 02:35:41,760
Remember, she's on the board of
the organization that does the

2407
02:35:41,760 --> 02:35:45,780
money for black lives matter.
She had also been sought as an

2408
02:35:45,780 --> 02:35:50,790
accomplice in the 1979 prison
escape of Assata Shakur and the

2409
02:35:50,790 --> 02:35:53,790
1981 Brinks robbery that
resulted in the deaths of two

2410
02:35:53,790 --> 02:35:58,740
police and Nygaard. Rosenberg
here it comes with sentence 258

2411
02:35:58,740 --> 02:36:02,400
years in prison on the weapons
and explosive charges. She spent

2412
02:36:02,400 --> 02:36:05,580
16 years in prison during which
he became a poet, author and

2413
02:36:05,610 --> 02:36:09,930
AIDS activist. Her sentence was
commuted to time served by

2414
02:36:09,930 --> 02:36:14,160
President Bill Clinton on
January 20 2001, his final day

2415
02:36:14,160 --> 02:36:24,630
in office, this is in fact, a
radicalized feminist Marxist who

2416
02:36:24,660 --> 02:36:29,400
was doing the very same things
that Black Lives Matter is

2417
02:36:29,400 --> 02:36:29,880
doing.

2418
02:36:31,980 --> 02:36:32,820
Birds of a feather.

2419
02:36:33,630 --> 02:36:37,380
I mean, did you know this? Did
you know about Rosen?

2420
02:36:37,380 --> 02:36:40,980
I did not I did not I know about
Assata Shakur and the bank

2421
02:36:40,980 --> 02:36:41,940
robberies? And

2422
02:36:42,360 --> 02:36:46,500
did you know that she was she is
the vice chair of essentially

2423
02:36:46,500 --> 02:36:49,140
the entire operation of black
ink.

2424
02:36:50,310 --> 02:36:53,220
I did not know. And Jesus, this
is the

2425
02:36:53,250 --> 02:36:57,360
she's a machine, a communist, a
Marxist. These are just nuts,

2426
02:36:57,360 --> 02:37:01,800
the same script the exact in
some, it's the same people.

2427
02:37:02,400 --> 02:37:07,410
And if you go to the 1000
current website and look at

2428
02:37:07,410 --> 02:37:15,840
their logo, the O and the U is
represented by aura bourse, or

2429
02:37:15,840 --> 02:37:19,080
the affinity sign or the snake
eating and eating itself.

2430
02:37:21,180 --> 02:37:26,550
Holy crap. And so this the
previous so what they did is

2431
02:37:26,550 --> 02:37:30,900
they they just took this
nonprofit. And I found the

2432
02:37:30,900 --> 02:37:34,800
resignation letter from the
previous executive directors

2433
02:37:34,800 --> 02:37:37,710
like well, you know, obviously
there's change, they have some

2434
02:37:37,710 --> 02:37:40,590
different ideas. I'm leaving
wish everybody well. And

2435
02:37:40,590 --> 02:37:43,800
everything changed. They just
took this existing organization

2436
02:37:44,280 --> 02:37:49,680
and rebranded and there's and
this is a complete slush front

2437
02:37:49,680 --> 02:37:53,760
front. But is it really because
we have one of the most radical

2438
02:37:53,760 --> 02:37:58,980
Marxist people right here in the
operation? And somehow it's not

2439
02:37:58,980 --> 02:38:00,990
really reported on that much.

2440
02:38:01,260 --> 02:38:05,610
And she's dealing with other
radical Marxist playing the same

2441
02:38:05,610 --> 02:38:06,150
tactics.

2442
02:38:06,150 --> 02:38:09,360
That is your high command right
there. Well, your high

2443
02:38:09,390 --> 02:38:10,620
operational command,

2444
02:38:11,130 --> 02:38:14,010
right. And the money he was
saying the money still come

2445
02:38:14,010 --> 02:38:16,260
pouring in, like, Oh, we got our
books straight over here. You

2446
02:38:16,260 --> 02:38:19,800
just give us the money and we'll
filter it out. Man. That's

2447
02:38:20,940 --> 02:38:25,650
exactly. Here. 2011 Rosenberg
published a memoir, an American

2448
02:38:25,650 --> 02:38:30,810
radical political prisoner in my
own country. I mean, this is so

2449
02:38:30,810 --> 02:38:34,020
good in light of how you set us
up throughout this throughout

2450
02:38:34,020 --> 02:38:37,170
the show today, most fantastic
this fits so perfectly.

2451
02:38:37,500 --> 02:38:41,580
And if I'm not mistaking, I
think their new leadership is

2452
02:38:41,610 --> 02:38:46,440
Somali lady. So if you want to
get into the Somali connection,

2453
02:38:46,440 --> 02:38:50,160
surprise, surprise, I'm just
saying I'm just gonna put that

2454
02:38:50,160 --> 02:38:50,970
out there. I'm not gonna

2455
02:38:51,240 --> 02:38:53,790
they never disappoint do they
know, right?

2456
02:38:55,050 --> 02:38:59,040
But this the same thing was
going on in 1966. And it was

2457
02:38:59,040 --> 02:39:01,080
uncovered by the John Birch
Society,

2458
02:39:01,560 --> 02:39:06,360
anarchy, the breakdown of law
and order, a chaotic Reign of

2459
02:39:06,390 --> 02:39:10,770
Terror, mob rule and rioting,
the collapse of government

2460
02:39:10,770 --> 02:39:15,360
authority. These phrases rings
strange in the ears of Americans

2461
02:39:15,420 --> 02:39:19,320
and for good reason. Through the
years, America has stood as the

2462
02:39:19,320 --> 02:39:22,590
world's symbol for law and
order. Our government is

2463
02:39:22,590 --> 02:39:25,410
responsive to the will of the
people, our courts and

2464
02:39:25,410 --> 02:39:28,500
legislatures provide the
mechanics for a peaceful redress

2465
02:39:28,500 --> 02:39:32,670
of grievances. And the policeman
on the corner has traditionally

2466
02:39:32,670 --> 02:39:36,180
been looked upon as a friend,
not as the instrument of a

2467
02:39:36,180 --> 02:39:41,730
tyrant anarchy. Well, that was
something we read about in our

2468
02:39:41,730 --> 02:39:44,700
newspapers that was always
happening in other countries.

2469
02:39:45,780 --> 02:39:50,250
Then in the summer of 1964,
widespread rioting and looting

2470
02:39:50,250 --> 02:39:56,250
suddenly broke out in Harlem, in
Rochester, in New York, in

2471
02:39:56,250 --> 02:40:03,990
Jersey City in Philadelphia.
Cleveland, and Chicago, all

2472
02:40:03,990 --> 02:40:08,820
within a few days of each other.
It was as though one unseen hand

2473
02:40:09,000 --> 02:40:13,290
had given the signal. The degree
of communist influence in these

2474
02:40:13,290 --> 02:40:17,160
riots has been subject of much
discussion and controversy.

2475
02:40:17,700 --> 02:40:21,960
Not any more than I love it,
because we can just, we can

2476
02:40:21,960 --> 02:40:25,290
almost predict the next steps in
the script. And maybe people

2477
02:40:25,290 --> 02:40:29,910
have this knowledge, they see
this repeat from the 30s. And

2478
02:40:29,910 --> 02:40:31,050
then the 60s,

2479
02:40:31,050 --> 02:40:34,500
fix these and then they redid it
and then add them it was more

2480
02:40:34,530 --> 02:40:37,680
cultural Marxism then, but now
they're coming back around to

2481
02:40:37,680 --> 02:40:39,240
the hardcore stuff. That's
right,

2482
02:40:39,660 --> 02:40:42,480
that maybe maybe we'll all get
an effing clue.

2483
02:40:44,040 --> 02:40:47,790
And when you support these
organizations now, be clear that

2484
02:40:47,790 --> 02:40:51,930
you're supporting Marxist
agendas. I mean, I can't put it

2485
02:40:51,930 --> 02:40:57,540
any other way. And this is where
it gets really juicy, not only

2486
02:40:57,540 --> 02:41:02,730
you supporting a Marxist Marxist
agenda, you may be supporting a

2487
02:41:02,730 --> 02:41:04,830
racist himself in Marx,

2488
02:41:04,980 --> 02:41:08,850
because Marx wanted German
socialists Ferdinand LaSalle, to

2489
02:41:09,060 --> 02:41:12,750
find me some literary business
in Germany to supplant my

2490
02:41:12,750 --> 02:41:17,130
diminished income and increased
expenditure. He cultivated him

2491
02:41:17,130 --> 02:41:21,840
with flattery to his face and
contempt behind his back. Marx

2492
02:41:21,840 --> 02:41:25,560
referred to LaSalle spoke on
Hegel as an exhibition of

2493
02:41:25,560 --> 02:41:30,360
enormous erudition, when writing
to LaSalle. And as a silly

2494
02:41:30,360 --> 02:41:35,910
concoction. When writing two
angles. Mark's added, Sal was a

2495
02:41:35,910 --> 02:41:39,900
Jewish nigger, based on Marx's
analysis of his appearance.

2496
02:41:43,530 --> 02:41:49,020
Oh, hold on a second, we just
show just got canceled.

2497
02:41:50,520 --> 02:41:53,280
We gotta cancel Karl Marx. Yeah,
no

2498
02:41:53,280 --> 02:41:56,520
kidding. He's no good. He's no
good. He's, uh,

2499
02:41:56,550 --> 02:42:00,810
he said the N word. And then he
said, No, we called him a Jewish

2500
02:42:00,810 --> 02:42:01,260
nigger.

2501
02:42:01,980 --> 02:42:03,330
It's a J N word.

2502
02:42:03,720 --> 02:42:07,680
What I'm saying is either way,
either way you cut that that

2503
02:42:07,680 --> 02:42:12,480
combination of words, he gotta
get a bite here. What? What,

2504
02:42:12,480 --> 02:42:15,690
what are we doing here? And we
know what it gets. We need to

2505
02:42:15,690 --> 02:42:19,560
get, we need a clip of him
saying that? Well, I don't have

2506
02:42:19,560 --> 02:42:22,650
a clip. I don't have a clip of
him saying this. But this is

2507
02:42:22,650 --> 02:42:27,510
from a very reputable author,
Mr. Thomas Sol.

2508
02:42:27,750 --> 02:42:31,950
It is now perfectly clear to me
that Ness testified also by his

2509
02:42:31,950 --> 02:42:35,550
cranial formation and hair
growth. He is descended from the

2510
02:42:35,550 --> 02:42:40,080
Negroes who joined Moses exodus
from Egypt, unless his paternal

2511
02:42:40,080 --> 02:42:43,710
mother or grandmother was
crossed with a nigger. Well,

2512
02:42:43,800 --> 02:42:47,520
this combination of Jewish and
Germanic stock with the Negro at

2513
02:42:47,520 --> 02:42:51,780
basic substance is bound to
yield a strange product for

2514
02:42:51,780 --> 02:42:55,680
fellows in portunity is also
nigger like, oh my

2515
02:42:55,680 --> 02:43:01,380
god, this is great. Karl Marx is
very problematic. Yeah.

2516
02:43:02,160 --> 02:43:06,780
problematic. He, in fact, you're
just normalizing racism if

2517
02:43:06,780 --> 02:43:07,920
you're for Marxism.

2518
02:43:08,340 --> 02:43:11,910
And didn't he just say the same
thing that the football player,

2519
02:43:12,600 --> 02:43:16,050
the Sean Jackson get counseled
for? Yes, for retweeting for

2520
02:43:16,050 --> 02:43:20,220
Hitler. Yeah, they're saying
that blacks other Jews. I'm not

2521
02:43:20,220 --> 02:43:22,950
talking about the Anwar. Now go
back and play that clip. Again,

2522
02:43:22,950 --> 02:43:26,460
he just call instead, the black
people were the original Jews.

2523
02:43:27,750 --> 02:43:31,560
Yeah, let's be clear to me, that
Miss testified also by his

2524
02:43:31,560 --> 02:43:35,190
cranial formation and hair
growth. He is descended from the

2525
02:43:35,190 --> 02:43:39,720
Negroes who joined Moses exodus
from Egypt, unless his paternal

2526
02:43:39,720 --> 02:43:43,320
mother or grandmother was
crossed with a nigger. Well,

2527
02:43:43,410 --> 02:43:47,160
this combination of Jewish and
Germanic stock with the Negroid

2528
02:43:47,160 --> 02:43:51,630
basic substance is bound to
yield a strange product. That

2529
02:43:51,630 --> 02:43:54,330
losing opportunity is also
nigger like,

2530
02:43:54,990 --> 02:43:59,190
Wow, man, this is so good. Have
you? Have you really read all of

2531
02:43:59,190 --> 02:44:02,880
Marx? Have you really seen what
he wrote? I mean, do you really

2532
02:44:02,880 --> 02:44:04,230
know how problematic he

2533
02:44:05,160 --> 02:44:09,420
is? Right? We could be we could
go we could play that. Well, if

2534
02:44:09,420 --> 02:44:11,970
they tried to play the one hand,
well, he's not being offensive

2535
02:44:12,000 --> 02:44:16,110
to black being passive tour,
Hebrew brothers and sisters.

2536
02:44:17,550 --> 02:44:22,350
Either way, we got to get him up
out of here, but there may be a

2537
02:44:22,350 --> 02:44:26,790
reason that Karl Marx is above
cancellation.

2538
02:44:28,800 --> 02:44:33,120
Oh, my Karl Marx grew up a
brilliant spoiled child who

2539
02:44:33,120 --> 02:44:36,360
bullied his younger sisters and
taunted his schoolmates with

2540
02:44:36,360 --> 02:44:40,080
sarcastic witticisms. In
addition to entertaining both

2541
02:44:40,080 --> 02:44:44,370
with imaginative stories. He had
a swarthy complexion that in

2542
02:44:44,370 --> 02:44:48,330
later years earned him the
nickname The more a name used

2543
02:44:48,330 --> 02:44:51,540
far more often in his inner
circle, including his children

2544
02:44:51,780 --> 02:44:53,100
than was his real name.

2545
02:44:53,820 --> 02:44:57,540
Okay. You rang the bell on
swarthy and I just happened to

2546
02:44:57,540 --> 02:45:01,170
know why you rang the bell
because we bow studied this word

2547
02:45:01,170 --> 02:45:04,110
recently. Yes. And it was

2548
02:45:04,470 --> 02:45:07,530
called the more yes marks the
more marks.

2549
02:45:07,830 --> 02:45:14,730
Wait a minute, was marked black.
He was Swansea swarthy.

2550
02:45:16,199 --> 02:45:20,429
Well, for people that don't know
this get the etymology. Oh

2551
02:45:20,429 --> 02:45:22,949
Swathi from chronicles of Judah
144.

2552
02:45:23,399 --> 02:45:28,619
All right now we're looking at
swarthy Flora the dark colored,

2553
02:45:29,099 --> 02:45:34,889
especially of skin. All right,
so now, now Benjamin Franklin,

2554
02:45:34,919 --> 02:45:39,209
he called the German swarthy.
Now what Germans do you know

2555
02:45:39,209 --> 02:45:41,609
today when you once again, when
you think of German, don't you

2556
02:45:41,609 --> 02:45:44,639
think of Caucasian people with
blond hair and blue eyes?

2557
02:45:47,219 --> 02:45:51,719
swarthy dark Scotland especially
of skin 1580s unexplained

2558
02:45:51,719 --> 02:45:57,719
alteration of swarthy from
Swart. Related swappiness. Now

2559
02:45:57,719 --> 02:46:04,859
the next one, shots, also Shazza
black person, somewhat

2560
02:46:04,859 --> 02:46:16,139
derogatory. 1961 yidishe from
shots black, see swarthy now now

2561
02:46:16,139 --> 02:46:19,259
for the people who try to gain
says Oh, no, when he says

2562
02:46:19,259 --> 02:46:22,559
swarthy, it's just talking about
now why is it that when that

2563
02:46:22,559 --> 02:46:24,629
when it says black it says, See
Swati?

2564
02:46:29,220 --> 02:46:33,000
I looked it up and we were
reading an article about women

2565
02:46:33,000 --> 02:46:36,810
in Elizabethton times, getting
this really white makeup to put

2566
02:46:36,810 --> 02:46:40,410
on the face, because they might
have not been white enough at

2567
02:46:40,410 --> 02:46:43,170
the time to be part of the
bloodline, and were thus seen as

2568
02:46:43,170 --> 02:46:47,490
swarthy smarts as black it's
fantastic. No one knows this

2569
02:46:47,490 --> 02:46:48,390
shit anymore.

2570
02:46:51,000 --> 02:46:56,280
We have he, as he mentioned in
his clip that even Benjamin

2571
02:46:56,280 --> 02:47:01,830
Franklin refer to the Germans as
swarthy. Yeah, and and Tawny.

2572
02:47:01,860 --> 02:47:05,460
Which Tawny is more like a light
brown. But if you go and look at

2573
02:47:05,460 --> 02:47:12,690
a younger pictures of Karl Marx
he looks like Chico to barge he

2574
02:47:12,690 --> 02:47:13,770
couldn't even be L he's

2575
02:47:13,770 --> 02:47:17,940
gotta be Chico holy crap
downgrade

2576
02:47:20,910 --> 02:47:25,860
now you can't write you can't
make this crap up. You can't

2577
02:47:25,860 --> 02:47:29,010
make it out. So do we cast him
or is He above counseling

2578
02:47:29,010 --> 02:47:31,020
because these kids that are
black but nobody will tell you

2579
02:47:31,020 --> 02:47:32,610
that? Wow,

2580
02:47:32,640 --> 02:47:36,450
we've got this is that the
rabbit hole where you said stop

2581
02:47:36,450 --> 02:47:39,090
we have to actually make a show.
I'm just not going any further

2582
02:47:39,090 --> 02:47:42,780
than that is that kind of
happened? Because it's crazy.

2583
02:47:42,780 --> 02:47:46,320
This is so good. But we tied a
lot of things together here

2584
02:47:46,320 --> 02:47:49,440
while we tied to well first of
all, the most important is the

2585
02:47:49,440 --> 02:47:53,970
total exposure of how this black
trap has worked with the with

2586
02:47:53,970 --> 02:47:58,170
the Marxism and has expanded
into any group now known as

2587
02:47:58,170 --> 02:48:03,000
identity politics right through
to this to the actual man behind

2588
02:48:03,000 --> 02:48:06,570
the movement now being
resurrected by Susan Lisa

2589
02:48:06,570 --> 02:48:11,460
Rosenberg for black ink. If this
doesn't blow people's minds, I

2590
02:48:11,460 --> 02:48:13,950
don't know why they invented
marijuana. I'm telling you, this

2591
02:48:13,950 --> 02:48:16,500
is fantastic. I really
appreciate it.

2592
02:48:16,950 --> 02:48:22,320
And my major takeaway from this
is Black is two things according

2593
02:48:22,320 --> 02:48:27,690
to Patrisse Cullors one you have
a race, race or lineage which

2594
02:48:27,690 --> 02:48:30,300
she has says has been
constructed and then you have a

2595
02:48:30,300 --> 02:48:34,740
political statement. So we
birthed the term black ain't

2596
02:48:34,740 --> 02:48:36,570
here on on the show today

2597
02:48:37,020 --> 02:48:38,790
and proud of it.

2598
02:48:40,710 --> 02:48:44,790
And as I always say, pay
attention to everything in the

2599
02:48:44,790 --> 02:48:46,080
true will reveal itself

2600
02:48:46,170 --> 02:48:50,880
and we will return as soon as
possible within a week. Remember

2601
02:48:50,880 --> 02:48:54,630
us at mo fund me.com and check
out the archives at mo facts.com

2602
02:48:54,630 --> 02:49:39,180
See you next week. See you later
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2603
02:49:42,690 --> 02:50:16,440
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