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For more facts with Adam curry
for March 28 2020 This is

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episode number 31 pandemic 2020
locked down at him and Moe on

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Rhona radio. Just figuring out a
day gig and we never get back to

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work. There'll be Adam and Mo
every day. Rona radio?

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Yes, that's all Oh, in a while
you're down. That's,

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you know, hold on a second.
Before we do even anything I

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need to. I need to see if that
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let's just be funny. Let's see.
Check for the domain. Rona

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radio.com. Available. All right.
I am now registering that we

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don't know what we'll do with it
yet. If we have hopefully we

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won't need it. But you never
know. Rhona radio.com Everybody.

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How you doing? Our RNA. How you
doing? Everything good.

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I am doing well. Sir. How about
yourself?

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Yeah, pretty good. How are the
kids? I gotta ask. You know,

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because we don't have any to
deal with during this. This

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crisis. I know. You got four. So
the hanging in?

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Oh, no. Well, I think they miss
school because my wife is even

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harder on. They get at school.
We're still getting them

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outside. Yeah. Live in life and
almost positive. Yeah. So um,

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everything's working. Well,

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I was gonna say it's actually
it's kind of handy. You got four

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kids now. You get to four times
at 500 bucks actually turned out

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to be valuable these kids for
once. That's good, man.

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Congratulations on that. Thank
you. So to try and keep some

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normalcy during the lockdown.
We're just continuing with our

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regular schedule with Mo facts
with Adam curry. Thank you all

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for your your feedback. I can
even see people posting earlier

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today. Like I need more facts
now. How am I gonna get through

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my Saturday? And

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I think I think I'd like to
Saturday day because it gives

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people you know, something to
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weekend started on

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something to anticipate. And of
course, depending on how how

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many million clips you got, you
know, that kind of depends. But

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the show is, is posted. So what
do we got going on for today?

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Well, what's, what's the word,

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but you had to spin the wheel.

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spinning the wheel of clips, the
wheel of topics, the Wheel of

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Fortune here on Moe facts let's
find out what today's topic will

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be where the wheel stops nobody
knows here we go the clip and go

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black identity extremists.
What's that?

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Black identity extremists? Yeah,
he's this is this is the

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opposite of white nationalist
extremists.

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I think it's the exact same, but
just different groups. Oh, okay.

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All right. I saw this is a term
that cropped up in around 2017

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by a leaked FBI document. And so
I waited too much time. I mean,

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it's been on my radar. But if I
have time to actually dig into

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these things, I don't like to
address them. So I thought this

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is this would be a great time.
So this is so

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this is from your your your
long, long term, open, open case

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open open cases file. This is
where you live from the list.

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Got it. All right, good. Good,
good. Good.

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So I guess we'll just jump right
in with FBI warns of terror.

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Black identity extremists now
considered a domestic terror

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threat by the FBI Bureau
releasing an explosive new

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report claiming police officers
are being targeted by people who

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perceive racial injustice is the
FBI says the 2014 shooting death

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of Michael Brown in Ferguson,
Missouri, spawned the threat

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against cops Brown's death, also
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the country.

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Was this a TMZ report? Because
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it actually it was a Fox News
report and the music and the

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jazz and it was the same thing
it caught my attention to I'm

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glad you picked up on that

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TMZ Fox no difference.

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So have you heard of this term?
I want to know what you know

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about it and I don't think I
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black extremists black identity
extremists now it also it's not

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a great term. If I'm going to be
a terrorist. You know, what's it

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you know? I'm a terrorist over
my identity. It just it sounds

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kind of wimpy

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is bi II. I mean, that was the
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it's not quite like it was not
quite like Black Panthers if you

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know what I mean. Yes. Big right
Panthers. Okay. And I guess no

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roll out? That's not really no.
But I had not heard of as far as

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So that's interesting. So they
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obviously it didn't make it
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trending on Black Twitter. And
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you didn't show up on your
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before you actually started
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Yeah, maybe the algos just took
it away from me, you never know.

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Right. But it was a huge talking
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things. Because basically, it
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in the past, with groups being
targeted in how they create

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narratives. But today show we're
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the groups that are being
labeled this because there is no

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clear group or groups being
identified as this. But how this

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term came about. And you know,
I'm all about narrative. I'm all

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about how they create these
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to find out what the origin of
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And it's also good if we'll find
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And or did or was it stopped? I
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I don't know either. But I guess
we can get into FBI sites black

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extremists terror.

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Meanwhile, the FBI warns this
get this. They warned Americans

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of new a new domestic terror
threat. Black identity

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extremists. What's that?

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Well, it goes back to a lot of
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look at a Alton Sterling
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example, you had a man man that
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to shoot officers, the same
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had another mad man that decided
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a veteran. It's right, right,
exactly. But when we think about

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these African American
extremists, this is something

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that's a byproduct of, I'm gonna
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of these other organizations.
And I don't want to say black

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lives matter cause they However,
they do have a responsibility to

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marshal in the following to
ensure that I shouldn't say

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ensure, but let them know that
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peace, and they fail that that
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complacency. Okay, so I heard a
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matter in that report. Well,

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what these two brought up is
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movement kind of whipped up this
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police officers?

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I think it's fair to say a lot
of anger is no looking at what

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we saw in Baltimore, a lot of
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created a lot of anger. But
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to the anger. Now how it got
started, we've talked about it

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on the show before they became
came top down. We've already

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laid out the links in previous
shows of George Soros and the

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funding of him to Black Lives
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those were not tied to any
specific group. And I think this

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was the point of this label, so
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act bad actors under one title.

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Right, in order to Okay, well,
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Yeah. So maybe it wasn't a
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name. And that's all these
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where you saw the same thing
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making white groups terror,
making them terrorist groups.

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And it's the same thing, but I
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it just didn't take and it's
funny to only found clips like

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official news clips on the Fox
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cherry picking from Fox, I'm
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communicating it as an actual
threat. We're only coming from

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Well, that's, that's the reason
why it never got any legs right

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there. If you try to launch a
meme through Fox is gonna die.

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It's, you know, anything that
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networks will never pick up.
They'll never it'll never agree

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on that. But I do like I find it
interesting that someone was out

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there and needed to name them.

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Yeah, and when you see something
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it always just like, I was like,
where's this going? Where's this

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coming from? I've never knew of
any particular group that was

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speaking offense to violence.
Now you have groups that speak

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of self defense, but you have
that on all spectrums of every

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race have, you know, if anybody
comes at you, you have the right

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to defend yourself. I mean,
that's just as American as apple

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pie, but I never saw like the
the offensive or going out and

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attacking people. So that's what
raised my arm raised the flag on

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this situation. And as you
mentioned before, if Fox was

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trying to push this, then you
had the more liberal media

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pushing it back against this
right and one of those

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organizations is being Vice.

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Yes, we're more an advertising
agency than anything but yes.

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And you're going to see that
even be even more true and it's

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next to the clips from inside
the FBI hunt for black identity

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extremists in the

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early morning hours. So December
12 2017, former Marine and black

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activist Christopher Daniels,
aka rock combat lagoon was

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arrested at his home for
unlawful gun possession. So what

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would warrant such a dramatic
arrest and a possible jail

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sentence of 10 years? According
to a leaked FBI document,

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there's a new group of domestic
terrorists black identity

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extremists Wow,

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that was very, I left that tail
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to SET set the mood. Identity
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I left it on there purposely and
I did it on a couple of clips to

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see the tone of this documentary
or expos as they did on quote

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unquote, black identity
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And what name did this guy have
Christopher Daniels is what I

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heard.

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know his name was if you gonna
read it, but I didn't catch his

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name, but more important that
his name is him being a former

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Marine. Yeah, pay attention.
Everybody out there, pay

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attention. Make a note of the
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with these extremist. It'll be
laid out later. But they, as

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they pointed out ex Marine,
where's this going? What is what

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is this? I've never heard of
this guy before? No. As I told,

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as I said before, that I am
aware listened to a lot of

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different points of view on the
black experience, correct? Yes,

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this guy has never rested on my
radar ever and all of a sudden

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vices doing a huge story on him.
And well, I'll let them continue

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on. telling about his story.

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Right Ken was greeted at home by
family and members of Gorilla

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mainframe, the black activist
group that Rakim co founded on

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their website driller mainframe
describes themselves as a

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community based political
organization. Their activities

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include food drives, self
defense classes, weapons

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training, and open carry
neighborhood patrols. It was

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these kinds of activities which
are visible across grilla

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mainframe and Rakim social media
accounts that Rakim believes

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made him a target of the FBI.

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Wow, a lot of suppositions in
there. Holy crap. I can't

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believe I have found one story
from the intercept fear of a

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black homeland. The strange tale
of the FBI is fictional black

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identity extremism movement.
Okay. This is interesting. I bet

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you came across this as well as
you were researching it.

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Yes, yes, I did. And what I
found strange or interesting was

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the name of his group. Gorilla
mainframe. Yeah, Bill, not the

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animal but like Gu e r r i L L
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guerrilla itself is a person who
engages in irregular warfare,

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especially as a member of the
independent unit, carrying out

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harassment and sabotage. Second,
and this is from Merriam

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Webster. And the second
definition is or relating to or

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suggestive of gorillas,
especially being aggressive,

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radical, and unconventional.

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Yes, it's not great. Guerrilla
warfare is not good.

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I'm talking about why would you
name your organization? Gorilla

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main frame, Gorilla mainframe? I
mean, you put in a big red

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beacon say, hey, come
investigate

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me. Kinda.

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Does that make any sense?

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Do they have gorilla
mainframe.com to just registered

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to their home address is

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that they have a website and
they had several YouTube videos.

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But they were just talking about
basically the same thing that

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the Black Panther was doing
feeding the kids and self

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defense. And I didn't really say
take anything away from negative

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but it's just all this is just
way too convenient.

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Yeah, I hear you. I hear ex ex
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guy. Now he comes home and he's
trying to raise a new Black

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Panther Party a quote unquote,
new Black Panther Party. And

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he's the first arrest under this
new black ID the black identity

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extremists label. So I guess we
need to figure out why the

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label?

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Yes, I'd like to know

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there's this perception that the
government promote that we are

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in a stage Have a critical
emergency because of terrorism.

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And that's because they get more
power. And in order to retain

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that power they need to find
more terrorists. One of the most

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outspoken critics of the black
identity extremists assessment

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is Michael German, the former
FBI agent who did undercover

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work on white supremacists and
right wing militias in the 90s.

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He's now a fellow for the
Brennan Center for Justice. What

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is sensitive? Do you believe
that the FBI has to make a label

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like black identity extremists,

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a person cannot be targeted for
investigation based solely on

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First Amendment activity. So by
creating this black identity

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extremism movement, they can use
that as the justification to

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then target any activists who
are any black person who is

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protesting police violence. One
of my problems with this kind of

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half intelligence report is
these are six disparate acts of

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violence that they try to mold
into a movement there was really

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nothing connecting them except
the fact that they killed police

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officers in the fact that they
were black.

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Yeah, this is so typical for the
FBI to do these types of things.

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I'll just give you my my my
gripe. My gripe upfront just

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like I was waiting for just just
recently in the news. The fact

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that was during the during the
right after the president, you

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know, said hey, everybody should
stay home for you No, no more

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than 10 of course a lot of
cities even Austin started to

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lock down all of a sudden after
months of using a confidential a

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form informant to jack up some
guy who lives with his

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grandmother to get them all
freaky and like oh, yeah, now I

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want to go kill everybody in the
in the hospital, you know, show

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this Coronavirus is a hoax, and
they give him a phony bomb and

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they give him all the oil, just
get them all jacked up to go.

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And then they arrest him and the
guy was armed. And you know, so

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then a shootout occurred,
convenient, the guy's dead. So

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he can just happens a lot. But
this is a a cycle for the FBI,

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they do this kind of stuff every
six weeks, or they used to do it

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every six weeks. And our new
agenda shows a theory on this.

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And this comes from people
inside the FBI who suggested as

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much is now they got to keep in
the public eye, they got to keep

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the budgets coming got to stay
relevant. And now it seems like

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Oh man, what a stretch, we're
actually going to create a group

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name just to lumping a whole
bunch of things. And then with

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that comes the same opportunity
to pop things off at times that

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are convenient for the FBI or
the Department of Justice

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wherever it's convenient for
just like this Missouri bomber,

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I think what what what a great
moment to terrify the citizens

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even more, they could have
waited.

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And the catalyst for this
really, and it's a little

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foreshadowing here into the rest
of the show. It was two events,

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both several events, but two
main events. And that was the

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shooting and Dallas. Yes, yes, I
think five cops. Yep. And then

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the shooting and Baton Rouge
that killed three cop cops. That

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happened. I think it was like 10
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was a real messy period. All
that happened in just the span

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of a month or so all that stuff.

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I think was like July 7 in the
second was July 17. Quote me on

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those dates, but I think it was
roughly there. So they took

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these two separate events that
had nothing to do with each

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other and say, Oh, we're gonna
roll them up. And that's what

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the gentleman that just spoke in
the last clip was saying yeah,

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roll them up into one thing 111
label one lay one label one

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create a label and then like you
said with the six week cycle

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that I became aware of on the no
agenda show that now we have a

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new we have a new brand.

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Yeah, but this these guys mess
it up clean. I don't know what

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went wrong. Maybe we'll find out
but what I would if I was in the

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meeting, like Alright, I got a
great idea guys. Hey, we're one

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pull this together. We'll give
it a name. And then we can do

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stuff with it. We can arrest
people do all kinds have it you

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know, get money budgets. Create
something scary. Yeah. Good

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idea. Boss. What are we going to
call it? Black identity

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extremists?

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Yeah, that's terrible.

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Like gorilla gorilla.

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What was it to a gorilla mane
for real

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a mainframe. Now that's a name.
It's like, Whoa, yeah, that

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sounds scary.

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And the reason why I think this
is just me speculating. I don't

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think you heard about this from
left wing of mainstream media is

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they were so supportive of Black
Lives Matter. And this bi is

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basically tied. They're trying
to tie it to black lives matter.

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So if the left wing of the media
starts pushing this narrative,

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then they're complicit because
they are the one that put the

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battery in the back of Black
Lives Matter. So they just like

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we want to suppress this and
make it go away.

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Right and that would explain why
Fox would be interested in

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hyping the story up because they
want to discredit everything the

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left does everything the left
sponsors, which would be Black

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Lives Matter.

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And they've always been anti
Black Lives Matter. So it just

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fits the brand. Easy jump to go
from black lives matter to bi E.

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I mean, maybe even the acronym
is like a easy jump because like

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if you use the acronym instead
of the,

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like, LM D. Yeah, yeah, I think
they should have done notorious

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bi E. And then that would have
been better than just bi e just

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me, man, I live for this stuff.
The guy thought

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that you start advertising.
Let's get BI for.

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On August 3 2017, the FBI
created the black identity

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extremists assessment using the
Dallas 2016 shooting and five

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other unrelated attacks on
police as justification that

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this movement exists. Black
identity

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extremists now considered a
domestic terror threat by the

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FBI.

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According to the FBI assessment,
it was very likely that these

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terrorists would target law
enforcement officers in

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retaliation for perceived police
violence against African

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Americans. Due to the assessment
classifying the group as a

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domestic terror organization The
FBI is able to justify any

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invasive surveillance tactics
used in monitoring these

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targeted individuals

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wow wow Hold on a second black
black I didn t I gotta now I

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gotta find this black identity
extremists and it was a terror

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group classification well that
thing is useless then if you can

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just name it and then say

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and then these groups overlap Oh

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my god. Here it is here it is.
Big Notorious BIG was a

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designation Nuba home on second
I thought it had terror I

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thought I saw this somewhere

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I don't see an official I wonder
who has to name something

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official for it to be an
official terrorist group. Know

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what I'm not I'm

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not sure. I mean, it's on the
FBIs list saw me it's not a bar

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jump. To get to get me the
rights to investigate or to

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circumvent people's, their
people's given rights to

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investigate them. But I just
want to point out one other

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thing. The mind control music
and it's

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no, it's good. That's vice man.
They're very they're really good

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at that. It gives you a whole
documentary feel to it and just

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pushing you through you can't
even question what's what's

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being told it's good.

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Well, when this term popped up
on people's timelines, and when

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this leaked document started to
get legs, there was only one

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comparison to bring up and we
brought it up in show 15 And

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this is a throwback clip from
their secret COINTELPRO.

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We know the government watches
us but what about when

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government surveillance changes
the course of history. In the

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1960s, the US government started
a program called COINTELPRO or

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the counter intelligence
program. The program was a

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series of secret FBI initiatives
targeting activist political and

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minority groups. The American
Indian movement, the Black

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Panthers, Martin Luther King,
women's and civil rights groups,

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Vietnam War protesters, and
anyone who got the government

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seeing red tactics used included
infiltration and surveying and

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discrediting leaders and causes
in order to undermine entire

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movements and organizations. But
a lot of what COINTELPRO did was

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illegal, and it was officially
disbanded in 1971. Though if you

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ask me any activist groups and
political dissidents, it still

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exists. Just him another form.

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Oh, well, yeah, of course. It's
just like, yes, Operation

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Mockingbird also ended
apparently.

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Yes. The MK Ultra ended. Yeah,
it all ended. Oh, yeah, sure if

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we

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continued under a different
name, but those those programs

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ended. Yeah, fair enough. Well,

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this is nothing new. And I'll
just show in the last clip.

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These kinds of things have been
going on and one of the will any

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black group that pushes anything
other than non violence is

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labeled as radically the word.
The previous term was radical

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militant. Yeah. You know, these
were the terms that were

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labeled. Now we have extremist.
One of those people that were

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labeled as an extremist was
Malcolm X. Of course,

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a black man is supposed to have
no black man strength is an

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extreme. He's supposed to sit
passively and have no feelings

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be non violent, and love his
enemy, no matter what kind of

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attack is verbal or otherwise,
he's Ebola taken by the fans up

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and in any way tries to defend
himself. And he's an extremist.

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Know I think Fisher who preceded
me is getting exactly what he

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asked for. Main reason for
believing in

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extremists. Wow, that was that
was another scary clip.

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Well, I want to say this, those
Funkmaster Flex bombs, not an

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original clip. These were this
is the only place I could find

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his speech and whoever posted it
put these explosive bombs in the

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background. Every time he made
an excellent point is a bit

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distracting. But I mean, you
have to use the source material

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that you're given

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right now. And I get the point.
In fact, I'd like to make

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another point. We are dealing
here with a BPE. blocked with

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black podcasting extremists.
Right there. Mo I see you,

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ama. You wonder where this Okay,
I gotta be honest, you wonder

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where this topic came from. And
this is Nichelle the kick and

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connectivity between the shows.
I ended the last show off with

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the school of fish analogy. Yes.
And part of that school of fish

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analogy is one, the fish can't
be too close together, or too

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far apart. Now, with that
analogy, this is the reason why,

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if we're if we're going to be
successful at creating change,

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we can't be too close together
because they always can create

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these terms. They have sound
infiltrators, as we've seen

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throughout history, and to
divide they to divide and

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destroy and discredit. And yeah,
whatever term you well the term

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you want to use. So that is,
that is how we got from last

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show to this show.

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Okay, got it.

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And to be fair, Malcolm X.
That's right. He's not usable in

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the same way Martin Luther King
is usable, because King was

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about non violence and loving
each other, which we should love

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each other. But as soon as you
as Malcolm pointed out in the

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previous clip, as soon as you
start talking about protecting

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yourself, and this is not only
so called blacks, quote unquote,

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blacks, this is any group as
soon as you start talking about

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defending yourself, then you're
our problem.

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Although if black people go with
white people to the state

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capitol with guns, it's all
white extremists just so you

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know. I saw some black faces
there but it was all white

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extremist

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and you saw a lot and that's
really really railed that whole

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anti gun because it's like we
don't have a clean we don't have

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a clean camera shot without
having a black person Hey, move

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that guy over to the left a
little bit yeah, I can get my

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shot so right.

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And then you if you do that,
then you start bringing these

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people that have similar
ideologies together.

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Bad idea can't have getting
together and having thoughts.

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That's why this podcast is so
dangerous.

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Notorious BPE mo facts

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so um, let's continue listen to
listen to Malcolm X a little bit

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more

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intelligently directed
extremism, extremism in defense

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of liberal extremism in question
just because I firmly believe in

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my heart that the day that the
Glassman uncompromising and

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realizes that he's within his
rights when his own freedom is

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being jeopardized, to use any
means necessary to bring about

451
00:29:57,930 --> 00:30:00,990
his freedom or put a halt to
that injustice. As I don't think

452
00:30:00,990 --> 00:30:04,110
you'll be by himself, I live in
America where there are only 22

453
00:30:04,110 --> 00:30:07,950
million blacks against probably
160 million white. One of the

454
00:30:07,950 --> 00:30:11,700
reasons that I'm in no way
reluctant or hesitant to do

455
00:30:11,700 --> 00:30:15,150
whatever is necessary to see
that black people do something

456
00:30:15,150 --> 00:30:18,420
to protect themselves. I
honestly believe that the thing

457
00:30:18,420 --> 00:30:22,350
that they do, many whites will
have more respect for them. And

458
00:30:22,350 --> 00:30:25,470
then there'll be more whites on
their sides and are now on the

459
00:30:25,470 --> 00:30:29,280
side with these little wishy
washy Luddites love diathermy

460
00:30:29,580 --> 00:30:35,520
approach that they've been using
up to now. And if I'm wrong,

461
00:30:35,970 --> 00:30:36,780
then you were raised.

462
00:30:38,940 --> 00:30:45,330
Man, he would have been great as
a podcaster. I'm not kidding, I

463
00:30:45,330 --> 00:30:50,250
can voice forever, I can listen
forever. It is such a great

464
00:30:50,250 --> 00:30:54,420
cadence. It's just a perfect
tone to it would have been

465
00:30:54,420 --> 00:30:54,930
great.

466
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:59,340
And that's why I love doing this
show with you. Because prior to

467
00:30:59,340 --> 00:31:04,710
you even hearing that clip, you
pointed out Virginia. Yeah. And

468
00:31:04,740 --> 00:31:09,510
he followed up with that point
that when black people start

469
00:31:09,510 --> 00:31:13,140
showing that we want to protect
ourselves and exercise our

470
00:31:13,140 --> 00:31:17,070
rights given to us by the first
and second amendment will

471
00:31:17,070 --> 00:31:19,980
actually garner more support.
That's right. That's right.

472
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,710
That's right. And that's what
that's the dangerous part is

473
00:31:22,710 --> 00:31:29,520
like no, no, no. Can't keep them
separate. Separate it? Well,

474
00:31:30,030 --> 00:31:35,820
that was the little history on
these kinds of things being been

475
00:31:35,820 --> 00:31:38,340
dumped been done all throughout
history, we saw the same thing

476
00:31:38,340 --> 00:31:42,660
with Marcus Garvey. And how J.
Edgar Hoover had it up for him.

477
00:31:42,660 --> 00:31:44,070
And he was for the self defense.

478
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:47,490
It's lighter. It's fascinating.
It's fascinating how we all fall

479
00:31:47,490 --> 00:31:49,620
for the same Gambit every single
time.

480
00:31:50,850 --> 00:31:55,650
Every single time. And it's
like, when, when the media shows

481
00:31:55,650 --> 00:32:01,440
pictures of black men with guns
in their hands. They can whip up

482
00:32:01,890 --> 00:32:02,550
fear.

483
00:32:03,900 --> 00:32:05,610
Yeah, I'll say they can

484
00:32:05,610 --> 00:32:10,530
whip up fear and man that in
turns, you know, demonizes and

485
00:32:10,530 --> 00:32:16,470
makes the makes them extremists.
Now this thing got, they did get

486
00:32:16,470 --> 00:32:19,800
attention from the government.
And one of the people it did get

487
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:23,550
attention from and I gotta give
her props, was representative

488
00:32:23,550 --> 00:32:28,050
Karen Bass. And just a little
background on Ms. Karen Bass.

489
00:32:28,500 --> 00:32:32,970
She is She's a Democrat, and
also a member of the Black

490
00:32:33,780 --> 00:32:37,470
national caucus, the Black
Caucus. Yep, she represents

491
00:32:37,470 --> 00:32:45,450
Culver City, south south, south
Los Angeles. And, um, one

492
00:32:45,450 --> 00:32:49,410
interesting thing I saw about
her, she was the acting chair of

493
00:32:49,410 --> 00:32:53,730
the subcommittee on crime,
terrorism and homeland security.

494
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:59,250
So I just found that
interesting, but for for this

495
00:32:59,250 --> 00:33:08,520
show, she's gonna be the big
bay. Okay, so if she actually

496
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:14,580
took God, she called, she called
a, a form on highlighting our

497
00:33:14,580 --> 00:33:16,350
black identity stream on stream
ism.

498
00:33:16,710 --> 00:33:22,710
I don't believe black identity
extremists exists. And I believe

499
00:33:22,710 --> 00:33:27,180
that the FBI should retract the
document, and should send out a

500
00:33:27,180 --> 00:33:29,940
document throughout law
enforcement saying that black

501
00:33:29,940 --> 00:33:34,260
identity extremists do not
exist. They kick they gave no

502
00:33:34,260 --> 00:33:38,940
information to us as to how they
came up with that category. And

503
00:33:39,060 --> 00:33:41,760
to me, what they really need to
be concerned about is white

504
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:44,550
identity extremists, but that
seems mystified.

505
00:33:45,990 --> 00:33:50,640
Oh, there we go. It's working.
It does. Because if you

506
00:33:50,850 --> 00:33:53,940
highlight one group than the
other, that group is going to

507
00:33:53,940 --> 00:33:56,490
point out all the represent so
called represented that group is

508
00:33:56,490 --> 00:33:58,680
going to point out what about
the other side's coordinates?

509
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,770
Say, oh, yeah, you're right.
Let's investigate everybody.

510
00:34:03,690 --> 00:34:07,590
Just called American extremists,
identity extremists, whatever.

511
00:34:07,650 --> 00:34:09,210
It's horrible. Yes.

512
00:34:10,650 --> 00:34:14,280
And like I said, she did have
this form. And um, she, I have

513
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:18,990
to give her credit, because she
did bring attention to how this

514
00:34:18,990 --> 00:34:22,800
thing was just thrown together,
rolled out to law enforcement,

515
00:34:22,860 --> 00:34:26,520
and it was like, What are we
supposed to do? Who are we

516
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:30,000
looking for? I mean, usually
when you have you're doing some

517
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,700
kind of investigation in you
know, like, What's the motive

518
00:34:32,700 --> 00:34:35,400
was the who are the perps? You
know, that kind of thing. It's

519
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:39,300
like now it's just a group. At
that time they say anything

520
00:34:39,300 --> 00:34:44,610
extreme. Now we have the right
to him when we got him. Yeah, we

521
00:34:44,610 --> 00:34:49,980
got one. That's a that's a very
dangerous premise. And the way

522
00:34:49,980 --> 00:34:54,630
this works is, in my mind, a lot
of these groups overlap. You

523
00:34:54,630 --> 00:34:59,100
have members that are members of
two or more groups. So once you

524
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:02,730
start connecting in that chain
to well, they're in

525
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:07,440
organization, ABC. And also, you
know, you could spider

526
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:12,120
women back spider web it and
show this so called huge

527
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:15,210
organization which may have some
actual interlinking connections.

528
00:35:15,210 --> 00:35:19,560
But again, the original premise
is just what's what's, what's

529
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,770
extremism, and what's identity
in this case.

530
00:35:23,579 --> 00:35:28,169
Right, it made us clearly
identified those two terms for

531
00:35:28,169 --> 00:35:32,249
you. But let's go back to some
more highlights from the form.

532
00:35:32,579 --> 00:35:35,459
The point of the document is
that it's saying that black

533
00:35:35,459 --> 00:35:38,579
identity extremists are
organized to kill law

534
00:35:38,579 --> 00:35:42,449
enforcement officers. My concern
about it is, especially since it

535
00:35:42,449 --> 00:35:45,299
was distributed to law
enforcement around the country,

536
00:35:45,479 --> 00:35:50,009
is that I consider the
declaration of open season on

537
00:35:50,009 --> 00:35:53,459
young black activists that I
have a particular concern about,

538
00:35:53,669 --> 00:35:56,279
especially people who were
involved in the Black Lives

539
00:35:56,279 --> 00:36:00,389
Matter movement, or any movement
that's trying to hold police

540
00:36:00,389 --> 00:36:04,679
accountable. That reminded me of
my days here in Los Angeles, as

541
00:36:04,679 --> 00:36:08,909
a young activist, protesting the
LAPD and the level of repression

542
00:36:08,909 --> 00:36:11,879
that we went through, there was
nobody we could talk to during

543
00:36:11,879 --> 00:36:16,439
those years. And so I feel a
very personal responsibility to

544
00:36:16,469 --> 00:36:20,039
make sure that that document is
retracted.

545
00:36:20,370 --> 00:36:23,220
Not. So let me just understand a
few things. First of all, do you

546
00:36:23,220 --> 00:36:26,370
know what the actual document is
that's being referred to

547
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,580
continuously here is a leak

548
00:36:29,610 --> 00:36:34,140
if that leaked, the running
theme in this whole

549
00:36:34,140 --> 00:36:37,110
administration and how the media
has covered it? It's a leaked

550
00:36:37,140 --> 00:36:37,800
document.

551
00:36:37,950 --> 00:36:41,760
Okay. Have we actually ever seen
the document that does not mean

552
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:42,510
the document

553
00:36:43,230 --> 00:36:48,960
or the document? Yeah. Well,
I'll say this Opsahl copies, but

554
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,930
I couldn't validate that was the
official document. I'll say

555
00:36:51,930 --> 00:36:55,050
that, because you've seen it
posted online, but I'm not sure

556
00:36:55,050 --> 00:36:58,680
if that's, and I didn't want to
report it, you know, right. As

557
00:36:59,970 --> 00:37:02,910
if I can't validate it. Right.
Which How do you validate a

558
00:37:02,910 --> 00:37:08,880
leaked document? Is your
document I'm going to refer to

559
00:37:08,910 --> 00:37:09,690
so and who

560
00:37:09,690 --> 00:37:13,560
was running the F. Now this is,
this is before Trump was elected

561
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:15,510
when this was put into place,
was it not?

562
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:18,840
No, it was 2017 when it came
out.

563
00:37:19,710 --> 00:37:22,260
Okay, but they were referring
back to things that happened.

564
00:37:22,260 --> 00:37:24,930
Well, no, no, the Dallas
shooting was was under Trump.

565
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:30,630
No, that was under Obama, and
Obama. And this is part of it.

566
00:37:30,660 --> 00:37:33,930
This is part of the story,
because it's like, why did you

567
00:37:33,930 --> 00:37:37,320
think start cropping up right at
the end of of Obama's

568
00:37:38,310 --> 00:37:42,810
administration going into the
2016 elections? So

569
00:37:42,810 --> 00:37:45,270
I don't know if you're, if you
have this covered, was it James

570
00:37:45,270 --> 00:37:47,880
Comey still running the FBI? At
that point? It must have been

571
00:37:47,910 --> 00:37:48,660
Yes. It had

572
00:37:48,660 --> 00:37:51,600
to be because he carried over,
carry over.

573
00:37:52,890 --> 00:37:57,930
Wow, mommy's lap. Ah, this is
something that is underreported.

574
00:37:58,589 --> 00:38:02,489
I'm sure it is even more reason
why the left the more liberal

575
00:38:02,489 --> 00:38:05,759
side of media had no reason to.

576
00:38:06,359 --> 00:38:10,019
I mean, this is like stop and
fix on steroids.

577
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:19,350
Yes, it is. Yes, it is. But
let's let Karen Bass finish up.

578
00:38:19,650 --> 00:38:21,000
Well, with our form,

579
00:38:21,300 --> 00:38:25,770
the numbers suggest that 83% of
the shots fire as incidents

580
00:38:25,770 --> 00:38:30,150
we've had since 2009, a right
wing extremists. And so again,

581
00:38:30,150 --> 00:38:33,270
as we as I'm challenged to the
report here, and trying to be

582
00:38:33,270 --> 00:38:35,970
fair, I'm just trying to
understand where this data came

583
00:38:35,970 --> 00:38:37,350
from and how they put it
together. Right,

584
00:38:37,410 --> 00:38:41,370
exactly. And they can't answer
that. How could you distribute a

585
00:38:41,370 --> 00:38:44,160
document to law enforcement
agencies around the country?

586
00:38:44,250 --> 00:38:47,610
Exactly. What is that category
based on? When it comes to

587
00:38:47,610 --> 00:38:51,360
terrorism? It seems like it's
only called terrorism if you're

588
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:54,090
a person of color, especially if
you're Muslim.

589
00:38:57,420 --> 00:38:59,880
See, my love for her was short
lived.

590
00:38:59,910 --> 00:39:02,130
Yeah. And it ended right there.

591
00:39:03,510 --> 00:39:09,000
When she broke my heart, doing
so well. We're talking about BI

592
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:16,050
E. And as I always say, they use
us to open the door. We'll have

593
00:39:16,050 --> 00:39:19,620
holding the door. And it's the
classic example. Yeah. Well, the

594
00:39:19,620 --> 00:39:23,550
conversation started around Bie.
And now it pivots back to

595
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:28,020
Muslims. Yeah, well, I'll color
a color people.

596
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,530
Hey, thanks. Thanks for holding
the door open,

597
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:35,400
y'all. Oh, y'all welcome. Good
work.

598
00:39:36,180 --> 00:39:39,450
That Well, good on Karen man,
Karen Bass.

599
00:39:39,900 --> 00:39:44,460
I gotta give her props call that
we have when good work. And so I

600
00:39:44,460 --> 00:39:48,330
have some clips from the actual
form. That was the highlights.

601
00:39:48,660 --> 00:39:51,450
It was a four minute video
highlighting you know, the

602
00:39:51,450 --> 00:39:54,510
things that were discussed in a
form, but I have some clips from

603
00:39:54,510 --> 00:40:00,330
her talking to Mr. Jeff
Sessions. And and this is a The

604
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:04,830
clip if bath bath if there's FBI
report on black identity

605
00:40:04,830 --> 00:40:05,430
extremist.

606
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:08,880
Okay, so you're not you haven't
necessarily read the report, but

607
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:11,640
you are familiar with the term
black identity extremists?

608
00:40:12,570 --> 00:40:14,040
Well, I think so, yes.

609
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:16,920
So can you tell me what that
term means to you? Do you

610
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:20,970
believe that there is a movement
of African Americans that

611
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:24,570
identify themselves as black
identity extremists? And what

612
00:40:24,570 --> 00:40:25,470
does that move into?

613
00:40:25,770 --> 00:40:29,220
Well, I'd be interesting to see
the conclusions of that report.

614
00:40:29,460 --> 00:40:35,640
But I'm aware that there are
groups that do have an

615
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:40,920
extraordinary commitment to
their racial identity, and some

616
00:40:40,950 --> 00:40:44,610
have transformed themselves even
into violent activist.

617
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:49,110
And that was sessions. Yes,
sessions. Right. So sessions,

618
00:40:49,710 --> 00:40:55,380
Attorney General came in after
Loretta Lynch when Trump the

619
00:40:55,380 --> 00:40:56,730
Trump administration started.

620
00:40:57,990 --> 00:41:01,530
Correct. Right. And in the way
they framed this term is this is

621
00:41:01,530 --> 00:41:05,460
from Trump's FBI. Oh, he's like,
no, please call me.

622
00:41:06,149 --> 00:41:09,929
Yeah, this is not Trump's FBI.
Right. They shape

623
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:13,740
they shaped it very well to you
know, exclude anybody that

624
00:41:13,740 --> 00:41:20,520
they're friendly to? Well. So
let's just let her let's finish

625
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:22,020
out her talking with sessions.

626
00:41:22,290 --> 00:41:25,350
Could you name an African
American organization that have

627
00:41:25,350 --> 00:41:27,990
committed violent acts against
police officers? Could you name

628
00:41:27,990 --> 00:41:32,820
one today in this report? They
name organizations from 3040

629
00:41:32,820 --> 00:41:36,000
years ago, but can you name a
one today that has targeted

630
00:41:36,720 --> 00:41:38,430
police officers in a violent
manner?

631
00:41:38,730 --> 00:41:39,630
Wu Tang Clan?

632
00:41:40,890 --> 00:41:46,620
I believe I could, but I would
want to be to confirm that and

633
00:41:46,620 --> 00:41:50,070
submit it to you in writing. But
I believe we had within the last

634
00:41:50,070 --> 00:41:54,750
year or so for police officers
killed by a group that some have

635
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,390
described as extremist,

636
00:41:57,420 --> 00:42:01,110
what has happened is, is that
there have been a couple of

637
00:42:01,110 --> 00:42:04,440
instances in which African
Americans did kill police

638
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:08,790
officers were not associated
with a black organization. And

639
00:42:08,790 --> 00:42:12,270
so one, for example, in Baton
Rouge was associated with

640
00:42:12,270 --> 00:42:15,270
sovereign citizens, which is
primarily a white group.

641
00:42:19,410 --> 00:42:23,640
So you even heard Jeff Sessions
say there are we had a couple of

642
00:42:24,180 --> 00:42:30,180
events and yeah, yeah, cut out
these two events. They created a

643
00:42:30,180 --> 00:42:31,800
whole identity not

644
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:35,490
even he said that he only
mentioned one didn't he like the

645
00:42:35,490 --> 00:42:35,910
foreign

646
00:42:37,530 --> 00:42:40,440
thing in Dallas and out that he
was waiting for? I think he was

647
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:44,550
referring to Dallas. It was
five. Yeah, okay. Yeah. And

648
00:42:44,850 --> 00:42:48,330
there were three and three in
Baton Rouge. Maybe he just

649
00:42:48,330 --> 00:42:51,540
rounded he was like, okay,
average of four. I don't know

650
00:42:51,540 --> 00:42:56,010
how you got to the fort number,
but he couldn't even name a

651
00:42:56,010 --> 00:43:00,720
group. If you have a. If you
have a real threat, you can say

652
00:43:00,720 --> 00:43:05,850
okay, just to say instance, I'm
a radical Islamic terrorism, you

653
00:43:05,850 --> 00:43:11,670
could say you have the Taliban
and you have al Qaeda, you know,

654
00:43:11,700 --> 00:43:16,470
go down the list, right? Oh, but
now he couldn't even give one

655
00:43:16,470 --> 00:43:19,320
he's like a kid submitted in
writing, which had me I had to

656
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:21,720
help them. I go look up one. And
what

657
00:43:21,720 --> 00:43:25,800
was this? Was this a
congressional hearing? Yes.

658
00:43:25,830 --> 00:43:28,680
Okay. So he was probably caught
off guard by this.

659
00:43:30,300 --> 00:43:32,520
Yeah, cuz he didn't even he
didn't even know. I don't think

660
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:36,450
he's in the previous one. I
didn't clip sounds like he

661
00:43:36,450 --> 00:43:41,490
didn't. He didn't know of the
report. Okay. Okay. Which I find

662
00:43:41,490 --> 00:43:45,540
strange is well, but the optics
is there you have Jeff Sessions,

663
00:43:45,540 --> 00:43:49,200
who's if you had to cast the
racist in a movie, I'm just

664
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:51,930
saying I'm not saying he is
racist or not is or isn't

665
00:43:51,930 --> 00:43:56,100
racist. What he picks that
casting we always talk about

666
00:43:56,100 --> 00:43:59,490
show up. Oh, totally, totally.
You have the southern accent,

667
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:01,980
older white man. And he's like,
oh, yeah, you

668
00:44:02,850 --> 00:44:06,030
know, he has kind of the
physique of a garden gnome. You

669
00:44:06,030 --> 00:44:08,340
know, all the things that you
just like, he's like, Oh, I can

670
00:44:08,370 --> 00:44:10,380
I can hate that guy. That's easy
to do.

671
00:44:11,670 --> 00:44:19,110
Yep. So here we are. And before
we actually get into those

672
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:23,580
events that he alluded to, I
want to give a little clip have

673
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:28,170
we not we've heard we saw the
videos with Black Lives Matter.

674
00:44:28,410 --> 00:44:33,510
Colin cops, pigs and yes, was it
baked bacon something let them

675
00:44:33,510 --> 00:44:35,130
fry? Oh, yeah.

676
00:44:35,580 --> 00:44:38,370
Here peek we saw let him fry.
Yeah.

677
00:44:39,180 --> 00:44:44,040
I want to make one point before
we play the next clip. One. I

678
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:49,050
think a lot of this racial
identity. Protesting is a form

679
00:44:49,050 --> 00:44:51,240
of cosplay. That's my personal
opinion.

680
00:44:52,049 --> 00:44:56,009
I see that. It's the same with
Antifa. I find that that's also

681
00:44:56,009 --> 00:44:56,999
a lot of cosplay.

682
00:44:57,779 --> 00:45:01,649
So the what happens is you Have
these organizations like Black

683
00:45:01,649 --> 00:45:04,109
Lives Matter, so I'm not letting
them off the hook in any form of

684
00:45:04,109 --> 00:45:09,389
fashion because I know who they
represent. They go out, they get

685
00:45:09,389 --> 00:45:13,709
people in the streets, and then
they have their agitators come

686
00:45:13,709 --> 00:45:19,709
out while in the group, throw a
rock, throw a bottle, whatever

687
00:45:19,709 --> 00:45:24,629
else and then it calls his
group. herd mentality and

688
00:45:24,629 --> 00:45:28,349
dislike all hell breaks loose.
Yeah. So I'm not taking a jump

689
00:45:28,529 --> 00:45:30,179
jump provocateur.

690
00:45:31,110 --> 00:45:38,790
Thank you, sir. But what I will
say is, there was also very

691
00:45:38,790 --> 00:45:47,640
nasty and vicious language,
specifically for Fox. But what

692
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:52,080
they will bring on these black
law enforcement officers, and

693
00:45:52,110 --> 00:45:55,950
they will use some of the most
well just get into the next

694
00:45:55,950 --> 00:45:56,310
clip,

695
00:45:56,850 --> 00:46:00,000
Sheriff, your reaction to some
of the some of the sentiments

696
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:02,070
you heard on the streets on
Saturday?

697
00:46:03,720 --> 00:46:06,750
Well, it's just crazy talk.
That's ignorance in its purest

698
00:46:06,750 --> 00:46:09,870
form. You know, I think we need
to rethink the strategy. I don't

699
00:46:09,870 --> 00:46:14,580
know why the police even bother
policing those demonstrations or

700
00:46:14,580 --> 00:46:18,660
not protest those people
advocate for the overthrow of

701
00:46:18,660 --> 00:46:24,870
our legally constituted
government. Let them fit, let

702
00:46:24,870 --> 00:46:28,050
them fend for themselves. But
the good life law abiding people

703
00:46:28,050 --> 00:46:31,950
of New York, clashed with them
for disrupting their lives,

704
00:46:31,950 --> 00:46:35,340
disrupting their businesses,
then the police can show up and

705
00:46:35,340 --> 00:46:40,440
arrest the subhuman creeps for
creating a disturbance that we

706
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:42,360
can do. Now which sheriff

707
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:47,820
was this? Best Sheriff Clark?
Clark, who was black? Yes. Oh,

708
00:46:47,850 --> 00:46:53,040
and he's a butter biscuit. Bad
carrying eater

709
00:46:53,100 --> 00:46:55,260
hat where you forgot hat where?
Yeah,

710
00:46:55,530 --> 00:47:00,840
where he is. And the reason why
I say that is to come. When you

711
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:03,720
talk about groups, you have to
use nuance. And I tried to do

712
00:47:03,720 --> 00:47:08,370
that, to show not to print with
a wide brush. Any group? Because

713
00:47:08,790 --> 00:47:13,230
as I explained before, you have
a lot of good people on both

714
00:47:13,230 --> 00:47:13,830
sides. Yes,

715
00:47:13,830 --> 00:47:17,160
fine. People. I think the term
is fine. Give me five people,

716
00:47:17,190 --> 00:47:17,850
five people

717
00:47:17,850 --> 00:47:20,640
on both sides. Yeah, because a
lot of people are frustrated,

718
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:22,500
and they just won't go out in
the street and let out their

719
00:47:22,500 --> 00:47:25,830
frustrations. And it may be
cosplay, but it's it's

720
00:47:25,830 --> 00:47:29,520
therapeutic. Those people are
not violent. They just want to

721
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:32,520
have the feel like they have
impact. They have an impact on

722
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:36,060
something. So they go out with
their signs. And a lot of I will

723
00:47:36,060 --> 00:47:39,930
say 90% of the people out there
are just want to exercise their

724
00:47:39,930 --> 00:47:43,260
First Amendment Amendment
rights. But for a guy like this

725
00:47:43,260 --> 00:47:47,190
to call them subhuman. And then
later on call them garbage.

726
00:47:47,220 --> 00:47:50,520
Yeah. Well, he said all I mean,
he was talking about all of

727
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:56,130
them, not just the he didn't,
you know, specifically say the

728
00:47:56,130 --> 00:47:58,350
agitators or the violent people
or those

729
00:47:58,470 --> 00:48:02,100
allow me to give you a
perspective from from, from my

730
00:48:02,310 --> 00:48:06,900
point of view. Okay. Until we
started this show, I would have

731
00:48:06,900 --> 00:48:11,220
always thought of Sheriff David
Clarke as a man, there's a cool

732
00:48:11,220 --> 00:48:14,850
guy, you know, he's not taking
any crap. He, he seems pretty

733
00:48:14,850 --> 00:48:19,800
down to earth. But the more I
start to learn, and as you said

734
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:26,910
the butter biscuits. He's taking
license, he's actually abusing

735
00:48:26,910 --> 00:48:32,730
his own skin color, to give
himself license to use these

736
00:48:32,730 --> 00:48:37,470
terms, which I find by itself
offensive.

737
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:43,530
And what was even more rubs me
the wrong way is if he was

738
00:48:43,530 --> 00:48:47,010
talking about the Bundy Ranch,
or the standoff, you know, with

739
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:52,440
white right wing groups. He
wouldn't use the term subhuman.

740
00:48:52,470 --> 00:48:56,160
I mean, that in itself has
connotations of subhuman human

741
00:48:56,400 --> 00:49:01,260
beings into the Tentler. Will
not zactly goes back to that.

742
00:49:01,860 --> 00:49:05,490
I'm glad you said that. So when
you use that term, it's like

743
00:49:06,030 --> 00:49:11,070
you. You borderline on premise
yourself.

744
00:49:11,549 --> 00:49:14,429
Sound you just made set it all
right.

745
00:49:15,359 --> 00:49:20,159
Yeah, it irks me because we can
I come here and I point out

746
00:49:20,339 --> 00:49:24,539
flaws on both sides. We can do
that. But don't don't don't

747
00:49:25,199 --> 00:49:29,129
denigrate people, especially
people that are trying to just

748
00:49:29,309 --> 00:49:33,959
watch the first, first right
first amendment rights. Alright,

749
00:49:33,959 --> 00:49:34,559
so

750
00:49:34,770 --> 00:49:39,090
now, one question based upon
what he said. Do you think it's

751
00:49:39,090 --> 00:49:43,200
possible he was referring purely
to the Zhaan provocateurs who

752
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:46,980
show up within the group and
calling them out as subhuman or

753
00:49:46,980 --> 00:49:49,530
did you really come across to
you as he's calling the whole

754
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:50,850
everybody subhuman?

755
00:49:50,940 --> 00:49:55,590
To be fair because I said a lot
about him. Can we listen to the

756
00:49:55,590 --> 00:49:58,890
last maybe 20 seconds of that
clip so we can hear exactly how

757
00:49:58,890 --> 00:49:59,550
he framed that?

758
00:49:59,580 --> 00:50:01,410
Yeah, let's Let's do that
because I thought he gave

759
00:50:01,410 --> 00:50:05,130
himself some leeway possibly
hold on. Let me

760
00:50:05,910 --> 00:50:09,510
let them fit, let them fend for
themselves. But the good life

761
00:50:09,510 --> 00:50:13,680
law abiding people of New York,
clashed with them for disrupting

762
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:16,650
their lives, disrupting their
businesses, then the police can

763
00:50:16,650 --> 00:50:21,360
show up and arrest the sub human
creeps for creating a

764
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:23,280
disturbance that we can do.

765
00:50:23,820 --> 00:50:25,500
Go back just a little bit
further home.

766
00:50:26,670 --> 00:50:29,700
Well, it's just crazy talk.
That's ignorance in its purest

767
00:50:29,700 --> 00:50:32,820
form. You know, I think we need
to rethink the strategy. I don't

768
00:50:32,820 --> 00:50:37,440
know why the police even bother
policing those demonstrations

769
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:41,610
are not protest those people
advocate for the overthrow of

770
00:50:41,610 --> 00:50:43,290
are legally constituted.

771
00:50:43,500 --> 00:50:46,020
Okay, so he's grouping them all
together there. All right.

772
00:50:46,860 --> 00:50:48,780
That's pretty clear. Pretty
clear.

773
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:52,170
I'm glad we did that. Just to be
clear, and that's how I took it.

774
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:55,410
But I was wanting to make sure
that I wasn't a

775
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:58,620
no, no, you got it. You got it.

776
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:05,610
Alright, so now we have to set
the stage is set. Oh, we're

777
00:51:05,610 --> 00:51:11,070
trying to figure out how we got
to be ice. We've heard kind of

778
00:51:11,070 --> 00:51:14,430
the tone on the right hand side.
We clearly know what the tone on

779
00:51:14,430 --> 00:51:20,100
the on the pro Black Lives
Matter pro anti police side is

780
00:51:20,100 --> 00:51:25,080
because it was highly spread out
in in August

781
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:27,090
and reported and discussed.

782
00:51:27,390 --> 00:51:32,070
Correct. So let's just get into
what happened in Dallas.

783
00:51:32,370 --> 00:51:36,000
We begin with breaking news in
Dallas, Texas, where at least

784
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:39,120
five police officers were killed
when they were ambushed by at

785
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:42,870
least two snipers. The shooting
began near the end of a protest

786
00:51:42,870 --> 00:51:46,080
over the fatal police shootings
of black men in Louisiana and

787
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:49,980
Minnesota. Six other officers
and a civilian were injured.

788
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:53,820
Police are questioning at least
three alleged suspects and

789
00:51:53,820 --> 00:51:57,330
Manuel Bohorquez is in downtown
Dallas, when well what is the

790
00:51:57,330 --> 00:51:57,930
latest?

791
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:02,040
Well, Anne Marie some breaking
news. Now we're learning that

792
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:05,760
the fourth suspect a man who was
holed up inside a parking garage

793
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:10,440
not too far from where we are
has now died of a self inflicted

794
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:14,220
gunshot wound. He had apparently
been exchanging gunfire with

795
00:52:14,220 --> 00:52:17,820
officers but we're learning that
he has now died from a self

796
00:52:17,820 --> 00:52:22,140
inflicted gunshot wound. As you
mentioned, the gunfire erupted

797
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:26,160
in downtown Dallas with no
warning turning this place into

798
00:52:26,190 --> 00:52:29,370
a war zone and still very much
resembling one right now.

799
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:33,060
Official saying the intent of
the shooters was to kill as many

800
00:52:33,060 --> 00:52:34,410
officers as possible.

801
00:52:36,420 --> 00:52:39,330
Yeah, didn't go in wasn't like a
robot that went around the

802
00:52:39,330 --> 00:52:40,230
corner and shot

803
00:52:40,230 --> 00:52:43,020
him or scary even carry easy.
I'm

804
00:52:43,020 --> 00:52:46,320
sorry. Sorry, guys. Let me just
put them on. Hold on a second. I

805
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:51,000
got them right here. Okay,

806
00:52:51,570 --> 00:52:55,590
let's stick with the news
narrative as it's reported. So

807
00:52:55,590 --> 00:53:02,280
we have two shooters. Yeah. And
the one of the shooters killed

808
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:06,090
himself with self inflicted
gunshot wound. That's what we

809
00:53:06,090 --> 00:53:06,750
have. Right. That's

810
00:53:06,750 --> 00:53:07,890
what we got now. Yes.

811
00:53:08,700 --> 00:53:12,210
Okay, so let's get into the next
clip.

812
00:53:17,220 --> 00:53:20,010
Police say this was a
coordinated attack.

813
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:25,860
At least two snipers. From
elevated positions as the

814
00:53:25,860 --> 00:53:32,520
protest rally March ended, began
firing upon officers ambush

815
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:32,820
style.

816
00:53:35,910 --> 00:53:39,660
As the gunfire rang out, police
use their patrol cars for cover

817
00:53:39,690 --> 00:53:41,880
as they moved in to help wounded
officers.

818
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:48,720
We believe that the suspects
were positioning themselves in a

819
00:53:48,720 --> 00:53:52,380
way to triangulate on these
officers from two different

820
00:53:52,380 --> 00:53:58,800
purchase in garages in the
downtown area and planned to

821
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:02,280
injure and kill as many law
enforcement officers as they

822
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:02,580
could.

823
00:54:03,450 --> 00:54:08,880
I never really heard this part
of the story. Maybe I came in

824
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:12,090
late or something and I only
heard the resolutions of it

825
00:54:12,090 --> 00:54:14,070
interesting. This is July

826
00:54:14,070 --> 00:54:18,210
8 2016. And the shooting
happened on July 7, so this is

827
00:54:18,210 --> 00:54:21,090
right off right after the
shooting. Right. We have

828
00:54:21,240 --> 00:54:24,360
multiple shooters. triangulating
which I don't know how you

829
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:26,400
triangulate with two shooters
but

830
00:54:27,990 --> 00:54:29,730
and then it's

831
00:54:30,569 --> 00:54:35,969
a cool term to throw out there.
But we have multiple shooters

832
00:54:35,969 --> 00:54:39,569
and we have one of the shooters
killing themselves with this and

833
00:54:39,569 --> 00:54:42,989
this is from the shirt that was
a sharp talking. That wasn't I'm

834
00:54:42,989 --> 00:54:45,209
not what me Excuse me. I think
police chief police chief Yeah,

835
00:54:45,809 --> 00:54:50,369
but that yeah, that was that
wasn't like some conspiracy

836
00:54:50,369 --> 00:54:50,669
theory

837
00:54:50,670 --> 00:54:54,750
website. Police Chief of Dallas
who I think also is black. Yes,

838
00:54:54,750 --> 00:54:55,440
he is. Yeah.

839
00:54:57,180 --> 00:55:00,690
But yeah, we have multiple
shooters one killer himself what

840
00:55:00,690 --> 00:55:05,070
if self inflicted gunshot wounds
and that counters the narrative

841
00:55:05,100 --> 00:55:09,240
that you heard, which you may
have heard in this next clip,

842
00:55:09,630 --> 00:55:12,690
and this morning we are getting
new video and new eyewitness

843
00:55:12,690 --> 00:55:16,380
accounts of the fear as well as
the heroism during the shooting

844
00:55:16,380 --> 00:55:18,900
in Dallas. We have team coverage
this morning. And we do begin

845
00:55:18,900 --> 00:55:21,750
with ABC is Matt Gutman right
there on the ground in downtown

846
00:55:21,750 --> 00:55:22,710
Dallas. Good morning, Matt.

847
00:55:24,450 --> 00:55:27,300
Good morning, Paul on that fear
and heroism you mentioned was

848
00:55:27,420 --> 00:55:30,300
intensified by the fact that
city officials thought they were

849
00:55:30,510 --> 00:55:34,080
under siege by an unknown number
of gunmen that night now that

850
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:37,110
they know it was a lone gunman.
Officials are focusing on

851
00:55:37,110 --> 00:55:40,290
investigating how he did this
and patching Dallas back

852
00:55:40,290 --> 00:55:43,890
together. There's a sniper from
up here somewhere. It's a sniper

853
00:55:44,250 --> 00:55:47,220
this morning as agents comb the
streets for evidence. They're

854
00:55:47,220 --> 00:55:48,780
learning more about the gunman.

855
00:55:48,899 --> 00:55:52,739
There was confusion with
everybody running around. But

856
00:55:52,769 --> 00:55:54,779
this was a mobile shooter

857
00:55:54,810 --> 00:55:59,220
who police che began blasting
away shortly after this peaceful

858
00:55:59,220 --> 00:56:00,600
demonstration in Dallas

859
00:56:00,630 --> 00:56:04,290
on Thursday. Yeah,

860
00:56:05,580 --> 00:56:10,770
I do. Shooter Yeah, all I just
crazy Mo i. I remember there was

861
00:56:10,770 --> 00:56:14,340
a lot of confusion, but I never
heard the sheriff say so clearly

862
00:56:14,340 --> 00:56:17,760
multiple. I thought it was like
one of those Fog of War maybe

863
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:21,420
the first 30 minutes or so they
thought that but that was the

864
00:56:21,420 --> 00:56:24,870
day after and this is two days
after. Then all of a sudden

865
00:56:24,870 --> 00:56:28,020
everyone everyone got their
story straight. Okay, we go

866
00:56:28,020 --> 00:56:29,400
here's what it is boys. Yeah.

867
00:56:30,060 --> 00:56:33,630
It's one shooter or a loan and
they use the term loan loan

868
00:56:34,020 --> 00:56:37,440
matter. Known shooter lone
shooter. They say it was a saint

869
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:42,090
that is able to single shooter.
It's the lone shooter. What

870
00:56:42,090 --> 00:56:44,400
about the other people that were
questioning? They say they were

871
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:47,100
questioning three other suspects
what what happened with that?

872
00:56:47,220 --> 00:56:50,190
And the reason why I'm saying
this is I want you to put on

873
00:56:50,190 --> 00:56:55,530
your black conspiracy theory
hat. And you hear like, because

874
00:56:55,530 --> 00:56:58,020
when these things happen, people
follow them closely. I was

875
00:56:58,020 --> 00:57:00,810
multiple shooters I was going on
and then you come back and just

876
00:57:00,810 --> 00:57:05,820
change the whole narrative. That
was a long shoot lower shooter a

877
00:57:05,820 --> 00:57:10,830
year. Yeah. That's smack of J.
Edgar Hoover that mean that

878
00:57:10,830 --> 00:57:17,190
Jake, who excuse me, I'm James
Earl Ray that smacks of the JFK

879
00:57:17,190 --> 00:57:20,490
assassination. You know, it's
like it always goes back to this

880
00:57:20,490 --> 00:57:21,030
one is,

881
00:57:21,780 --> 00:57:24,270
especially the connotation of
Dallas. Yeah.

882
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:28,230
I imagine that that was missed
on me. Thank you for pointing

883
00:57:28,230 --> 00:57:33,480
that out. So we have a now we're
down to one shooter. No

884
00:57:33,510 --> 00:57:40,530
mentioned that the three
suspects and the curious

885
00:57:40,530 --> 00:57:42,090
question of how he was killed.

886
00:57:42,510 --> 00:57:46,200
Dallas PD shutting down the
airspace over town thinking this

887
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:48,420
was an ambush with multiple
shooters.

888
00:57:49,110 --> 00:57:50,310
Somebody is really armed

889
00:57:50,310 --> 00:57:53,790
to the team as there's not one
person, but it was one shooter,

890
00:57:53,970 --> 00:57:55,740
Micah Xavier Johnson.

891
00:57:56,010 --> 00:58:01,470
Mr. Johnson had written
manifestos on how to shoot move.

892
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:04,980
You see him in this video
advancing with deadly efficiency

893
00:58:04,980 --> 00:58:10,410
on this officer firing the
officer gun down the toll 14th

894
00:58:10,410 --> 00:58:15,300
Shot 12 of them officers. Five
of the officers died towards

895
00:58:15,300 --> 00:58:18,450
midnight SWAT teams finally
corner Johnson on the second

896
00:58:18,450 --> 00:58:20,490
floor of El Centro College

897
00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:23,670
suspect's data he wants to kill
white people, especially white

898
00:58:23,670 --> 00:58:24,330
officers,

899
00:58:24,420 --> 00:58:28,020
negotiations break down then
police use an explosive mounted

900
00:58:28,020 --> 00:58:31,950
on a robot similar to this one
to kill Johnson for the first

901
00:58:31,950 --> 00:58:33,060
time in history.

902
00:58:33,210 --> 00:58:37,080
I remember that that was that's
the part that I focused on when

903
00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:42,810
I heard that I'm like oh and by
the way weren't the two of the

904
00:58:42,810 --> 00:58:44,580
five cops killed more than a
black?

905
00:58:47,130 --> 00:58:50,970
I'm not sure. I think you're
just going by memory. I'm just

906
00:58:50,970 --> 00:58:54,690
going by man. That was in I
think the black cops were killed

907
00:58:54,690 --> 00:59:01,320
in Baton Rouge but maybe I'm not
for sure. But I want to that

908
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:04,560
last clip. I want to pick it
apart piece by piece. Okay,

909
00:59:04,710 --> 00:59:13,710
first of all, you have a shooter
he hit 14 People 12 of them

910
00:59:13,710 --> 00:59:19,740
being cops. That means he had to
be a crack shot all those people

911
00:59:19,740 --> 00:59:23,790
running around and that all that
melee and chaos and you can hit

912
00:59:24,630 --> 00:59:31,980
let's just proceed to the man's
name is Micah Xavier Johnson

913
00:59:31,980 --> 00:59:35,850
right? Yeah. If you shorten that
up you got mica X.

914
00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:43,350
Nice. That's like current code.

915
00:59:44,310 --> 00:59:46,410
Now I'm just saying well, that's
what registered with me because

916
00:59:46,410 --> 00:59:49,380
when you hide when you
abbreviate the middle name,

917
00:59:49,410 --> 00:59:50,970
Micah X. Yeah,

918
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:55,290
you got my eggs. Wait, that's
great. It leaves it to himself.

919
00:59:55,590 --> 00:59:59,490
And then you have this. One day
ago you said he killed himself

920
00:59:59,490 --> 01:00:03,090
was self inflicted gunshot
wound. How'd you get that wrong?

921
01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:05,280
I don't understand how that one
piece?

922
01:00:05,790 --> 01:00:09,750
Well, I mean, I'm not surprised
that the media gets it wrong.

923
01:00:09,750 --> 01:00:12,420
The question is, where did they
get the report from? Was it from

924
01:00:12,420 --> 01:00:14,220
the from the official police

925
01:00:15,570 --> 01:00:19,140
and previous clips, they had the
briefing of the police officer.

926
01:00:19,860 --> 01:00:22,950
So it's like, you can ask them
the question. How did he How did

927
01:00:22,950 --> 01:00:23,520
he die?

928
01:00:23,550 --> 01:00:25,140
Smells cover up.

929
01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:31,350
They use one pound a C four on a
robot. Oh, yeah. A pound to blow

930
01:00:31,350 --> 01:00:32,280
this manned up

931
01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:35,820
upon. Make sure he wasn't
recognizable. That's for sure.

932
01:00:36,300 --> 01:00:36,660
As

933
01:00:36,660 --> 01:00:41,880
Jay strain is hella strange.
He's like, you see for first

934
01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:48,300
time in history. Yeah. They said
on a robot. After the

935
01:00:48,300 --> 01:00:51,540
communication break, you haven't
corner because I mean, they

936
01:00:51,540 --> 01:00:56,970
hadn't cornered. I mean, he
couldn't get out. After an hour,

937
01:00:56,970 --> 01:01:02,040
you just say okay, um, yeah,
sending the robot. What? Yeah,

938
01:01:02,490 --> 01:01:03,810
that doesn't make any sense.

939
01:01:03,930 --> 01:01:07,260
And I don't I don't I have never
heard of the robot being used

940
01:01:07,260 --> 01:01:09,240
since actually, you I

941
01:01:09,240 --> 01:01:15,120
have not either. We've had many
standoffs with shooters. Effort

942
01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:19,350
per day. I mean, we had some
that lasts for days, even. And

943
01:01:19,350 --> 01:01:24,450
they don't send the robot in.
But as this case starts to

944
01:01:24,750 --> 01:01:29,100
unravel, we get even more
details about the gunman.

945
01:01:29,460 --> 01:01:32,190
freelance reporter Steve
Futterman is in Dallas, and he

946
01:01:32,190 --> 01:01:35,460
joins me now live. So Steve,
what do we know about the

947
01:01:35,460 --> 01:01:36,900
suspects that was killed?

948
01:01:37,470 --> 01:01:41,580
Well, his name is Micah Johnson
25 years old from the Dallas

949
01:01:41,580 --> 01:01:45,420
area. In fact, he celebrated his
25th birthday this past weekend.

950
01:01:45,660 --> 01:01:48,600
We have now learned a bit more
about him. He was in the army

951
01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:51,540
for a number of years,
apparently spent some time

952
01:01:51,660 --> 01:01:55,650
either in Afghanistan or Iraq.
But the very interesting thing

953
01:01:55,650 --> 01:01:58,170
we've learned in the past hour
from from law enforcement

954
01:01:58,170 --> 01:02:02,520
sources is what he was armed
with. He had an assault rifle, a

955
01:02:02,520 --> 01:02:06,390
semi automatic assault rifle. He
had a handgun, and apparently

956
01:02:06,390 --> 01:02:10,230
was dressed in body armor, which
makes everyone believed he knew

957
01:02:10,230 --> 01:02:13,110
exactly what he was going to do
when he came to the protests

958
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:14,010
last night.

959
01:02:15,780 --> 01:02:18,750
Yeah, it's kind of distressing
to hear all this again.

960
01:02:19,620 --> 01:02:25,050
So for the listeners out there,
I told you remember that

961
01:02:25,050 --> 01:02:32,280
Military Connection Yes. Now we
have the our think rockin was

962
01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:36,090
the other guy's name the FBI. He
was it was rain. Yeah, they put

963
01:02:36,090 --> 01:02:39,150
it out there all he's military,
former military for military.

964
01:02:39,630 --> 01:02:43,980
Now we have mica X Johnson,
former military.

965
01:02:44,700 --> 01:02:48,060
You know, again, if we were in
the meeting, you'd be like, Hey,

966
01:02:48,060 --> 01:02:50,880
man, let's come up with a cool
name for this cat. Alright, so

967
01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:53,610
I'm like Malcolm X. Alright,
Mike X. Yeah, but we got to make

968
01:02:53,610 --> 01:02:56,100
sure everyone always really
black Johnson. All right. That's

969
01:02:56,100 --> 01:02:57,900
it, man. Perfect. We're good to
go.

970
01:03:00,450 --> 01:03:04,620
It writes itself. It does. It
really does. So it's like okay,

971
01:03:04,620 --> 01:03:07,260
now we have this guy. He's
moving around body armor,

972
01:03:07,260 --> 01:03:13,110
assault rifle, two pistols. He's
making these difficult shots.

973
01:03:13,110 --> 01:03:17,520
Cops are taking triangulation,
the triangulation. Oh, and one

974
01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:20,820
thing I meant, Miss that the cop
said in a previous clip his

975
01:03:20,820 --> 01:03:23,340
manifesto. I mean, after all,

976
01:03:24,420 --> 01:03:26,850
did he ever did he ever publish
one? Did he republish a

977
01:03:26,850 --> 01:03:27,690
manifesto?

978
01:03:28,260 --> 01:03:31,950
Well, his manifesto was more of
his tactical how he was going to

979
01:03:31,950 --> 01:03:35,640
do it. But they just relabeled
it as a manifesto said,

980
01:03:35,640 --> 01:03:38,820
Well, of course that's what you
do. That's what you do. It's

981
01:03:38,820 --> 01:03:39,060
just

982
01:03:39,090 --> 01:03:43,410
all too convenient. And like,
I'm thinking, and this is 2017.

983
01:03:43,410 --> 01:03:46,680
So I'm saying this thing with
the in a mind. And it's like,

984
01:03:46,710 --> 01:03:51,450
hey, what, what is going on
here? Like, who is this guy?

985
01:03:52,020 --> 01:03:55,350
His manifesto was a very angry
rant against white people.

986
01:03:56,130 --> 01:04:02,010
That's it. So we have and there
was one drop by that last

987
01:04:02,010 --> 01:04:07,110
supporter or may last reporter.
He didn't use the term mica X

988
01:04:07,110 --> 01:04:11,160
Johnson. Michael, we get on
cold. You know, if you don't

989
01:04:11,160 --> 01:04:14,370
call it a Philly, you have to
put the X in there.

990
01:04:14,430 --> 01:04:18,600
Otherwise, people might think
you're not a part of it. Right.

991
01:04:18,930 --> 01:04:20,580
Which could be true for that
guy.

992
01:04:21,780 --> 01:04:27,000
Yeah, if I can say that. Well,
we all we know. All the shooters

993
01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:29,730
always get 3d printed, which I
don't know who came up with that

994
01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:35,790
anyway, but always named his
race fit perfectly. Yeah. And so

995
01:04:35,790 --> 01:04:39,390
now we have a shooter that's
blown up with one pound of sea

996
01:04:39,390 --> 01:04:44,370
for at the hour standoff. Yes.
And he's former military. Yep.

997
01:04:44,490 --> 01:04:46,650
And now he

998
01:04:46,680 --> 01:04:49,680
got to connect and we got to
connect a mo. Well, let's

999
01:04:49,680 --> 01:04:51,030
go and connect him to an atom.

1000
01:04:51,450 --> 01:04:53,940
We're getting a closer look at
his motive and what

1001
01:04:53,940 --> 01:04:58,710
investigators found inside his
home. Authorities say this is

1002
01:04:58,710 --> 01:05:03,390
the deadly sniper Micah Xavier
Johnson, a former military man

1003
01:05:03,390 --> 01:05:06,930
who went hunting for police,
specifically white officers,

1004
01:05:08,429 --> 01:05:12,599
there appears to have been one
gunman, with no known links to

1005
01:05:12,599 --> 01:05:16,499
or inspiration from any
international terrorist

1006
01:05:16,709 --> 01:05:17,519
organization.

1007
01:05:17,550 --> 01:05:21,450
Law enforcement sources tell ABC
News Johnson was armed for his

1008
01:05:21,450 --> 01:05:24,510
shooting spree with an assault
rifle and two handguns

1009
01:05:25,620 --> 01:05:31,560
been a tale of cowardice. By and
assess Johnson served

1010
01:05:31,560 --> 01:05:36,270
in the Army Reserve from 2009
until 2015. Doing a tour in

1011
01:05:36,270 --> 01:05:39,270
Afghanistan. According to
police, his Facebook page

1012
01:05:39,270 --> 01:05:43,320
reveals some of that rage
against police. He liked a page

1013
01:05:43,320 --> 01:05:46,260
which said, quote, kill
everything blue that moves

1014
01:05:46,320 --> 01:05:49,530
overnight police search Johnson
is home in Mesquite, Texas

1015
01:05:49,530 --> 01:05:52,350
police say they found bomb
making materials ballistic

1016
01:05:52,350 --> 01:05:56,250
vests, rifles, ammunition and a
personal journal of combat

1017
01:05:56,250 --> 01:05:56,850
tactics was

1018
01:05:56,850 --> 01:06:03,510
a well planned, well thought
out. Evil tragedy,

1019
01:06:03,810 --> 01:06:07,290
Michael Johnson sister took to
Facebook writing quote, the news

1020
01:06:07,290 --> 01:06:10,890
will say what they think but
those who knew him know this

1021
01:06:10,890 --> 01:06:11,850
wasn't like him.

1022
01:06:12,930 --> 01:06:16,650
They see the manifesto was now
turned into a notebook. Yeah,

1023
01:06:16,830 --> 01:06:20,520
that's interesting. They've
screwed up on that report.

1024
01:06:20,790 --> 01:06:24,180
And that's the connectivity that
we're talking about. So now you

1025
01:06:24,180 --> 01:06:28,170
have this guy that went and done
this violent act independently

1026
01:06:28,170 --> 01:06:32,400
if you want to believe the the
media narrative, but the fact

1027
01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:35,400
that he likes somebody on
Facebook, yeah. Oh, that just

1028
01:06:35,400 --> 01:06:38,760
proves it. Let's start let's
start digging into who he likes

1029
01:06:39,300 --> 01:06:43,830
on social media. And that's now
we can brute roll out this term.

1030
01:06:44,580 --> 01:06:50,250
Bi E. And by guilty by
association. Those people are

1031
01:06:50,430 --> 01:06:54,480
put on a list. Yes, you see, you
see and then

1032
01:06:55,350 --> 01:06:59,190
who they follow become Bie Yes,
of course. That's how it works.

1033
01:06:59,190 --> 01:07:02,190
Yeah. Well, especially for the
FBI who clearly creating work

1034
01:07:02,190 --> 01:07:04,140
for themselves. Hmm.

1035
01:07:05,670 --> 01:07:08,880
And like I said, as long as you
have the and we saw this with

1036
01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:12,510
the war on drugs, and everything
is just like you need just you

1037
01:07:12,510 --> 01:07:14,880
need bodies to put in front of
the camera. They say you're

1038
01:07:14,880 --> 01:07:19,350
doing your job and nothing
really gets fixed. But we've

1039
01:07:19,350 --> 01:07:24,000
seen We've seen this all before.
But there was one interesting

1040
01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:33,270
fact that it was not reported as
much as you think it would. But

1041
01:07:33,270 --> 01:07:35,040
the shooter left behind a
message.

1042
01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:40,320
Thanks that this killer
obviously had some delusion.

1043
01:07:40,830 --> 01:07:44,760
There was quite a bit of
rambling in the journal. That's

1044
01:07:44,760 --> 01:07:48,480
hard to decipher. I can just add
at the scene where he was

1045
01:07:48,480 --> 01:07:51,900
killed. There was a pause he
wrote some lettering and blood

1046
01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:56,280
on the walls. Which leads us to
believe he was wounded on the

1047
01:07:56,280 --> 01:08:00,480
way up the stairwell on the
second floor of the El Centro

1048
01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:05,520
building and where we detonated
the device to end the standoff

1049
01:08:05,520 --> 01:08:10,860
there there was more lettering
written in his own blood. What

1050
01:08:10,860 --> 01:08:15,570
did he write we are we are
trying to decipher that but he

1051
01:08:15,570 --> 01:08:20,460
wrote the letters are B are
being in we don't RV Yes. So

1052
01:08:20,460 --> 01:08:24,450
we're trying to figure out
through looking at things in his

1053
01:08:24,450 --> 01:08:30,450
home what those initials mean.
But we haven't determined that

1054
01:08:30,450 --> 01:08:30,780
yet.

1055
01:08:31,800 --> 01:08:39,900
Yes, I remember that RB RB was
that the only thing I thought

1056
01:08:39,900 --> 01:08:41,280
there was more that he had
written?

1057
01:08:41,610 --> 01:08:44,580
No that was that was all that
they reported that he read wrote

1058
01:08:44,580 --> 01:08:49,530
and blood and two separate
places. RB. So I started doing

1059
01:08:49,530 --> 01:08:54,000
the digging like what what is rb
mean? I can't know not know what

1060
01:08:54,000 --> 01:09:01,230
this means. So they had some
theories. One of the less agreed

1061
01:09:01,230 --> 01:09:04,380
upon theories is he wrote RB for
robot mom.

1062
01:09:04,860 --> 01:09:08,340
Yes. Yeah. Remember that one?
Yep. Which is fair.

1063
01:09:08,370 --> 01:09:12,840
I mean, that's fair. But the
most widely reported by USA

1064
01:09:12,840 --> 01:09:21,660
Today heavy Daily Mail and other
groups. It stood for our B, G,

1065
01:09:21,990 --> 01:09:24,510
now also known as red, black and
green.

1066
01:09:25,500 --> 01:09:28,320
He just didn't he didn't finish
the G because then he got blowed

1067
01:09:28,320 --> 01:09:28,680
up.

1068
01:09:28,980 --> 01:09:33,210
And in two places. How do you
make that stretch? It's like RB

1069
01:09:33,210 --> 01:09:35,220
or don't have time to write the
G that you read somewhere else.

1070
01:09:37,260 --> 01:09:42,060
But these news agencies wrote
Oh, yeah, it's the for our red,

1071
01:09:42,060 --> 01:09:46,560
black, black and green, which is
the Pan African pan Africanist

1072
01:09:46,560 --> 01:09:51,360
colors. So now if you have any
association to red, black, black

1073
01:09:51,360 --> 01:09:52,140
and green

1074
01:09:53,190 --> 01:09:55,440
Hello, Jamaica. Yeah.

1075
01:09:57,060 --> 01:10:00,780
You know your website if you
have read Like and green or

1076
01:10:00,780 --> 01:10:05,310
anything with those colors, now
you get knocked into the group.

1077
01:10:05,430 --> 01:10:12,360
This is all too convenient. Wow.
And like I said these are heavy

1078
01:10:12,360 --> 01:10:15,660
hitting news agency theory that
reported is almost as fat which

1079
01:10:15,780 --> 01:10:18,180
didn't make any sense. He would
at least would have finished one

1080
01:10:18,180 --> 01:10:22,800
of them as RBG best what he
meant when he just put RB in two

1081
01:10:22,800 --> 01:10:27,240
separate places and nests and it
kind of, as you know, with any

1082
01:10:30,060 --> 01:10:34,500
narrative that they roll out, it
just sticks of course and so it

1083
01:10:34,500 --> 01:10:38,910
was it was a it was red, black
and green cheese. So that wraps

1084
01:10:38,910 --> 01:10:45,480
up the Dallas, Dallas shooting.
And right 10 days later, we have

1085
01:10:45,480 --> 01:10:46,080
this event

1086
01:10:46,290 --> 01:10:49,800
we want to get to the tragedy.
in Baton Rouge three police

1087
01:10:49,800 --> 01:10:52,920
officers killed at a deadly
assault three more injured after

1088
01:10:52,920 --> 01:10:55,800
a gunman attacked them at a busy
intersection. Terrified

1089
01:10:55,800 --> 01:10:59,070
witnesses hiding in the car
capturing the ambush on cell

1090
01:10:59,070 --> 01:11:02,940
phone video before the shooter
was taken down. Amy Robach on

1091
01:11:02,940 --> 01:11:05,640
the scene for us there in
Louisiana with the latest. Good

1092
01:11:05,640 --> 01:11:06,150
morning Amy.

1093
01:11:07,950 --> 01:11:11,220
That's right. Good morning Robin
and the headline of advocate

1094
01:11:11,220 --> 01:11:14,760
here in Baton Rouge says that
all senseless the carnage began

1095
01:11:14,760 --> 01:11:18,810
here behind me after police
officers responded to a 911 call

1096
01:11:18,810 --> 01:11:22,320
about a suspicious looking man
carrying guns. When those

1097
01:11:22,320 --> 01:11:26,580
battens officers arrived they
were targeted shot and three of

1098
01:11:26,580 --> 01:11:27,420
them killed.

1099
01:11:30,180 --> 01:11:37,500
At 840 For the first shots rang
out. Just two moments earlier

1100
01:11:37,500 --> 01:11:40,680
Baton Rouge Police scrambled to
this busy intersection after

1101
01:11:40,680 --> 01:11:44,850
receiving a 911 call about a man
dressed all in black armed with

1102
01:11:44,850 --> 01:11:48,660
a rifle and a semi automatic
pistol when officers arrived the

1103
01:11:48,660 --> 01:11:53,220
suspect 29 year old former
Marine Gavin long began to fire

1104
01:11:53,370 --> 01:11:55,410
another Marine go figure

1105
01:11:56,640 --> 01:12:03,570
arm in the same fashion. Yep. As
as Mike X Johnson, a assault

1106
01:12:03,570 --> 01:12:06,090
rifle and a handgun.

1107
01:12:08,250 --> 01:12:08,760
Yeah

1108
01:12:10,350 --> 01:12:16,560
10 days later. He drove out from
St. Louis to Baton Rouge. He

1109
01:12:16,560 --> 01:12:19,230
wasn't even originally from
Baton Rouge, right but Rouge was

1110
01:12:19,230 --> 01:12:26,250
the hotbed because Alton
Sterling shooting Yeah, it's

1111
01:12:26,250 --> 01:12:29,040
strike strike is strange, I tell
you.

1112
01:12:29,700 --> 01:12:34,110
No, no, it is and I mean, I was
focused on other things. I

1113
01:12:34,110 --> 01:12:37,110
remember I was you know, it's
like, there's so much was

1114
01:12:37,110 --> 01:12:41,010
exploding around this. It was
and we were just figuring out

1115
01:12:41,010 --> 01:12:45,780
that we really only figured out
in with the Louisiana stuff that

1116
01:12:45,810 --> 01:12:51,240
you know, black lives matter was
a Soros outfit and you know the

1117
01:12:51,750 --> 01:12:57,060
I mean right down to the founder
of BLM living in a Soros house

1118
01:12:57,090 --> 01:12:59,700
you know, that's the stuff I was
looking at then didn't even look

1119
01:12:59,700 --> 01:13:01,590
at this is very interesting. Why
like it.

1120
01:13:03,690 --> 01:13:06,660
So we have two people with the
intent and the thing throughout

1121
01:13:06,660 --> 01:13:13,890
American history. We haven't had
that many black militant black

1122
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radical shootings of cops. Well,
there hasn't been

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that many cops killed since 911.
That was a humongous No I mean,

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I was five eight it was a big
number.

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And then within two days
maintain Excuse me 10 days you

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01:13:28,020 --> 01:13:31,950
have two shooters armed in the
same fashion doing highly

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01:13:31,950 --> 01:13:35,160
tactical shootings of police
officers was similar bad there

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01:13:36,180 --> 01:13:40,050
were similar backgrounds, ex
military, the army the same

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01:13:40,050 --> 01:13:44,730
fashion and they have a quote
unquote pro black ideology.

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Now let me guess was this What
was his name? Gavin long Gavin

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01:13:50,910 --> 01:13:54,360
long. Did he like some bad
groups on Facebook? I'm just

1132
01:13:54,360 --> 01:13:57,180
guessing. Ah,

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01:13:57,210 --> 01:14:00,420
we're gonna get there but let's
get into his ex marine

1134
01:14:00,420 --> 01:14:01,020
background.

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01:14:01,920 --> 01:14:05,550
The suspect who fatally shot
three officers in Baton Rouge on

1136
01:14:05,550 --> 01:14:09,150
Sunday before being killed by
police has been identified as a

1137
01:14:09,150 --> 01:14:13,200
former Marine Sergeant Gavin
long a 29 year old African

1138
01:14:13,200 --> 01:14:15,990
American man was according to a
person briefed on the

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01:14:15,990 --> 01:14:20,040
investigation from Kansas City
and affiliated with an anti

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01:14:20,040 --> 01:14:24,180
government group. This image was
published on a Twitter account

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01:14:24,180 --> 01:14:28,530
linked to a website called
Convos with Cosmo dot club, a

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01:14:28,530 --> 01:14:32,550
site registered by a person
identified as Gavin long from

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01:14:32,550 --> 01:14:37,230
Kansas City. In a tweet posted
on Sunday, it reads just because

1144
01:14:37,230 --> 01:14:40,470
you wake up every morning
doesn't mean that you're living.

1145
01:14:40,710 --> 01:14:44,400
And just because you shed your
physical body doesn't mean that

1146
01:14:44,400 --> 01:14:50,850
you're dead. Sunday shootings
happened at a shopping center

1147
01:14:50,850 --> 01:14:57,600
not far from the Baton Rouge
Police Headquarters. Apparently

1148
01:14:57,600 --> 01:15:01,230
officers saw a man carrying a
rifle and dressed all in black

1149
01:15:01,260 --> 01:15:03,600
standing behind a beauty supply
store.

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01:15:03,630 --> 01:15:06,600
We do not have a pony on the
shooter. He is not in fight.

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01:15:08,010 --> 01:15:11,700
Cyber Police now believe the
gunman lured the officers there

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01:15:11,700 --> 01:15:15,810
to ambush them. Sunday shooting
comes just two weeks after

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01:15:15,810 --> 01:15:19,170
police in Baton Rouge shot and
killed black man, Alton

1154
01:15:19,170 --> 01:15:24,000
Sterling, an incident that led
to protests in the city. It also

1155
01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:28,800
follows another police shooting
in Dallas last week, where five

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01:15:28,800 --> 01:15:31,560
officers were killed and nearly
a dozen injured.

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01:15:31,770 --> 01:15:34,830
Yeah, remember, it was like an
ambush situations coming back to

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01:15:34,830 --> 01:15:35,220
me now.

1159
01:15:35,760 --> 01:15:38,520
And that's the term that was
used in both cases. Ambush

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01:15:38,520 --> 01:15:42,750
ambush. Yeah. And they say he
was linked to a anti government

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01:15:42,750 --> 01:15:45,270
group. I think this is a term
they use what they didn't

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01:15:45,270 --> 01:15:49,890
specify that was a majority
white, quote unquote, anti

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01:15:49,890 --> 01:15:53,820
government group, because that's
the one that I'm Karen Bass

1164
01:15:53,820 --> 01:15:59,280
refer to and heroclip. But they
just left it as is as well. And

1165
01:15:59,280 --> 01:16:03,090
if you just do the mental jump,
oh, I had to be a black group he

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01:16:03,090 --> 01:16:04,950
was associated with, you know,
we have this.

1167
01:16:05,070 --> 01:16:07,980
Of course, we're trained to
think this now. Yeah.

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01:16:08,910 --> 01:16:13,800
And you asked the previous
question his connection to his

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01:16:13,800 --> 01:16:15,090
activity online. Yeah.

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01:16:15,120 --> 01:16:19,110
Was he liking anything anything
bad on face bag, where he left

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01:16:19,260 --> 01:16:20,220
online trail,

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01:16:21,120 --> 01:16:24,300
a trail putting it more on the
gunman. Now a military veteran

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01:16:24,330 --> 01:16:27,150
who posted threatening videos
may have had ties to militant

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01:16:27,150 --> 01:16:29,520
groups. Maybe he's chief
investigative correspondent

1175
01:16:29,520 --> 01:16:32,520
Brian Ross has the latest Convos
with

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01:16:32,520 --> 01:16:36,270
Cosmo that's me. Using the
pseudonym Cosmo, the shooter

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01:16:36,270 --> 01:16:40,980
Gavin Eugene long posted this
video online. The day after the

1178
01:16:40,980 --> 01:16:44,070
five police officers in Dallas
were shot and killed. It's

1179
01:16:44,070 --> 01:16:46,470
a time for peace. But it's a
time for war. And most of the

1180
01:16:46,470 --> 01:16:48,870
times when you want peace, you
gotta go to war.

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01:16:49,050 --> 01:16:52,410
Overnight police and the FBI
were at the home of long in

1182
01:16:52,410 --> 01:16:55,290
Kansas City, Missouri, where
neighbors described him as a

1183
01:16:55,290 --> 01:16:58,830
quiet man divorced with
children. government document

1184
01:16:58,830 --> 01:17:02,010
showed long was a military
veteran who served five years in

1185
01:17:02,010 --> 01:17:07,440
the Marines, including tours in
Japan and Iraq. And police say

1186
01:17:07,440 --> 01:17:10,200
the Sunday Morning Ambush showed
signs of being

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01:17:10,200 --> 01:17:14,940
well planned. Wow, that's when
you put it all together like

1188
01:17:14,940 --> 01:17:18,960
that. It's very interesting.
Very, very interesting. I like

1189
01:17:18,960 --> 01:17:20,670
that a lot. That's good.

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01:17:21,150 --> 01:17:27,000
And I have a theory. All right.
I have a theory. But first, we

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01:17:27,180 --> 01:17:28,830
like people buy new money.

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01:17:28,860 --> 01:17:31,350
I don't know if you do but I
hate old money that's wrinkled

1193
01:17:31,350 --> 01:17:35,670
and dirty and got all the
diseases on it. I like new

1194
01:17:35,670 --> 01:17:41,040
money. And when I give when I
give things to people, I like to

1195
01:17:41,040 --> 01:17:45,690
give stacks of money. It's fun.
You ever had a stack of new

1196
01:17:45,690 --> 01:17:57,480
money? Have you? You'd have it
have you a little snack? Oh. And

1197
01:17:57,480 --> 01:18:01,050
so I made the on the big stack
where it was brand new in that I

1198
01:18:01,050 --> 01:18:03,300
like brand new money. I just I
don't want any money around me.

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01:18:03,300 --> 01:18:08,520
It's not. I don't want to have a
new one than a brand than an old

1200
01:18:08,520 --> 01:18:12,000
20. That's kind of dumb. But
there's something about new

1201
01:18:12,000 --> 01:18:17,130
money that excites you. You like
$100 bills. owe money to oh,

1202
01:18:17,850 --> 01:18:20,550
that most beautiful thing on
earth is $100 Bill, I haven't

1203
01:18:20,550 --> 01:18:22,350
seen a woman is good looking at
$100 bill

1204
01:18:23,550 --> 01:18:27,120
that aren't available to excite
you. We can dream can't wait.

1205
01:18:27,690 --> 01:18:31,110
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Out of curiosity, are you a fan
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1251
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1267
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1270
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1271
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Yes, they are both Well, thank
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1272
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The magic numbers what you're
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1273
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1276
01:22:54,480 --> 01:22:58,980
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1277
01:22:58,980 --> 01:23:01,440
Thank you very much for your
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1279
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1280
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1281
01:23:13,440 --> 01:23:18,930
I look but I didn't see it. Hmm.
That make good on it.

1282
01:23:19,020 --> 01:23:25,170
Yeah, John Cena just email us.
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1283
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1284
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it up Mo and Adam Well, you will
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1286
01:23:37,560 --> 01:23:42,930
nos us Shrinivas. There you go.
I've learned quite a bit in the

1287
01:23:42,930 --> 01:23:46,920
past six, seven months myself.
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1291
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Thank you guys. Thank you. It's
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John, Alex. Thank you, John. Sir
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1294
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been back listening from episode
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1295
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that in this case. In fact, you
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thankful for all of what I
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facts with Adam curry. And
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in the credits as our executive
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drew McArdle is our Associate
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1323
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So before we went to the
donation segment, I say I have a

1324
01:26:16,950 --> 01:26:20,430
theory Yes. Manchurian Candidate

1325
01:26:23,610 --> 01:26:27,210
How much do you actually know
about your friend I served under

1326
01:26:27,210 --> 01:26:28,650
him he was a good man that's

1327
01:26:28,650 --> 01:26:31,140
what the neighbors always say
about serial killers.

1328
01:26:32,310 --> 01:26:35,580
Somebody put an implant inside
me I got a good for the people

1329
01:26:35,580 --> 01:26:39,390
wanting you to you need to get
open not crazy Shah

1330
01:26:41,910 --> 01:26:45,090
Raymond This is Jamie Johnson of
Manchurian global for strong

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01:26:45,090 --> 01:26:45,750
supporters

1332
01:26:49,140 --> 01:26:53,310
to flick the switch we can
adjust character change

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personality these are not
supposed to exist Raymond

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01:26:59,460 --> 01:27:02,040
Prentice show listen

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01:27:03,600 --> 01:27:08,220
this is a cool this is rich
people on the bad science to put

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01:27:08,220 --> 01:27:09,570
sleeper in the White House

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01:27:13,200 --> 01:27:15,990
among the shareholders in
Manchurian global you would find

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01:27:15,990 --> 01:27:19,080
former presidents opposed Kings
I get it they're big they're

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01:27:19,080 --> 01:27:21,690
huge. You bring me rumors and
conjecture I started with

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01:27:21,690 --> 01:27:24,360
nightmares rumors conjectures
that's a giant leap forward.

1341
01:27:26,010 --> 01:27:29,790
Somebody got into our heads
neurons got got got exposed and

1342
01:27:29,790 --> 01:27:31,110
circuits got wide. I

1343
01:27:31,110 --> 01:27:35,550
think you should leave I gotta
find out what's going to happen

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01:27:35,550 --> 01:27:36,600
where it's gonna happen.

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01:27:37,110 --> 01:27:38,220
It's delusional.

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01:27:39,360 --> 01:27:40,140
To watch where you

1347
01:27:40,140 --> 01:27:43,800
go. You swore to me that this
was failsafe no leaks no

1348
01:27:43,800 --> 01:27:48,660
glitches. I will do whatever is
necessary to protect my son's

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01:27:48,690 --> 01:27:49,980
we're going to stop this and
take

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01:27:49,980 --> 01:28:03,960
them out. They factored you in
captain, do you remember me?

1351
01:28:05,700 --> 01:28:11,550
Wow. Okay, so I haven't seen
both the Frank Sinatra version,

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01:28:11,580 --> 01:28:15,900
which is no way is cool when it
comes to sound effects. Den.

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01:28:15,990 --> 01:28:18,180
This is a Denzel Washington
version. I guess. I don't know

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01:28:18,180 --> 01:28:19,080
of any other one. Yeah,

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01:28:19,260 --> 01:28:25,230
yes. 2004. The trailer from the
previous version didn't have any

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01:28:25,230 --> 01:28:26,070
sound sounded

1357
01:28:26,100 --> 01:28:31,440
Oh, neither did the movie. Movie
was not that great. I mean from

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01:28:31,470 --> 01:28:34,800
by today's technical standards,
but it was of course the

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01:28:34,800 --> 01:28:44,400
brainwashing of a vet. A former
marine or military?

1360
01:28:44,970 --> 01:28:48,840
Yeah, just say military former
soldiers. Yeah. Brainwash, but

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01:28:48,840 --> 01:28:49,980
by who?

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01:28:51,510 --> 01:28:53,610
In the movie? Yes.

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01:28:56,490 --> 01:28:59,160
But what's operation? Yes, yeah.
Oh, that's

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01:29:00,810 --> 01:29:05,820
Manchurian Corporation. Correct?
Yes, I remember now. Yes.

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01:29:06,300 --> 01:29:10,830
So now this is where this is
where I reach Oh, you call it a

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01:29:10,830 --> 01:29:15,330
reach. But I have receipts. So I
don't even give a damn they're

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01:29:16,860 --> 01:29:21,990
gonna fire it up. But he doesn't
need No, not yet. Okay. Well, I

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01:29:21,990 --> 01:29:26,160
did see here is in the movie.
You have a corporation made up

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01:29:26,160 --> 01:29:31,020
of former President
billionaires. So I'm not looking

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01:29:31,320 --> 01:29:36,840
at the government here on this.
We're going into 2016 election.

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01:29:37,590 --> 01:29:42,720
We see George Soros has pumped
billions of dollars into this

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01:29:42,720 --> 01:29:47,910
whole Black Lives Matter
movement. Yes. What's to say?

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01:29:48,930 --> 01:29:54,300
They're not organizations or
factions out there that will go

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01:29:54,300 --> 01:29:59,460
the next step to trigger
individuals which these two will

1375
01:29:59,460 --> 01:30:05,370
be perfect. candidates you have
hyper, hyper angry anger.

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01:30:05,370 --> 01:30:05,730
They're very

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01:30:06,330 --> 01:30:10,080
Oh, yeah. Trump traumatized by
war and has all the right

1378
01:30:10,080 --> 01:30:10,950
elements. Sure.

1379
01:30:11,370 --> 01:30:14,220
Yeah. They have the
functionality of being former

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01:30:14,220 --> 01:30:16,740
soldiers. I mean, for long
periods of time, I think one was

1381
01:30:16,740 --> 01:30:21,000
like five years, almost four
years. You can easily build a

1382
01:30:21,000 --> 01:30:27,510
profile online on these two. You
can say that, no, this, this is

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01:30:27,510 --> 01:30:30,750
the type of person we want to
push over the edge. Now, this is

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01:30:30,750 --> 01:30:33,630
the point where everybody's
saying, Come on Mo.

1385
01:30:33,690 --> 01:30:37,680
No, I'm not liking it. I like
where this is going.

1386
01:30:38,970 --> 01:30:43,320
So what I did was, I went and
found Mr. Gavin's Long's first

1387
01:30:43,320 --> 01:30:44,340
YouTube video.

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01:30:44,640 --> 01:30:49,380
First off self preservation. The
first law nature is the same

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01:30:49,380 --> 01:30:53,370
thing. Same way as when America,
they put you on a mainstream,

1390
01:30:53,370 --> 01:30:57,390
they put on the mainstream media
that has a new tyrant, a new

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01:30:57,390 --> 01:31:02,730
enemy, and a go and physically
do an assault on that country is

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01:31:02,730 --> 01:31:07,110
the same thing. And it's the
same way how when I was in the

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01:31:07,110 --> 01:31:12,300
Marines, I went and fought, you
know, foot foot foot United

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01:31:12,300 --> 01:31:18,150
States. Because it was a so
called enemy. So it's no other

1395
01:31:18,150 --> 01:31:21,660
it's not different from someone
fighting against you and

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01:31:21,660 --> 01:31:24,630
assaulting you and you
protecting yourself is the same

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01:31:24,630 --> 01:31:27,270
way. There's nothing wrong with
it. You got the right to defend

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01:31:27,270 --> 01:31:32,490
yourself at any moment. If
someone is assaulting you, and

1399
01:31:32,490 --> 01:31:35,580
gang stalking is an assault on
you physically, mentally,

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01:31:35,700 --> 01:31:40,560
spiritually, emotionally and
psychologically. So you got a

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01:31:40,560 --> 01:31:43,140
right to defend yourself at any
moment. You got a right to

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01:31:43,140 --> 01:31:47,040
preserve Yes. To preserve your
life at any moment you choose,

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01:31:47,040 --> 01:31:47,880
and you're gonna be right.

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01:31:48,900 --> 01:31:52,770
Okay, so he's talking about sub
being psychologically abused.

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01:31:55,080 --> 01:32:02,490
Gavin long, said he was a victim
of gang stalking. Yeah. Which

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01:32:02,490 --> 01:32:09,240
is, as he said in the clip is
psychological abuse. Did you

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01:32:09,240 --> 01:32:10,440
hear this reported anywhere?

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01:32:10,470 --> 01:32:14,310
No, of course, not Mo. I didn't
even I thought they would have

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01:32:14,310 --> 01:32:18,240
deleted his YouTube channel by
now. That's crazy. I'm

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01:32:18,240 --> 01:32:19,530
amazed I found this.

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01:32:20,700 --> 01:32:22,500
Interesting. That is very
interesting.

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01:32:24,090 --> 01:32:27,480
And what I find it even more
interesting is if I'm wanting to

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01:32:27,480 --> 01:32:32,310
build a case against Gavin long,
right? I'm gonna say, this guy's

1414
01:32:32,310 --> 01:32:36,600
crazy. Because he said he was
gangster and gang stalking is

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01:32:37,050 --> 01:32:43,890
clearly show that he's not real.
And he shows signs of mental

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01:32:43,890 --> 01:32:49,440
illness. I'll say. Why did they
take that angle? It was no, I

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01:32:49,440 --> 01:32:51,720
mean, because you can easily
make that case. And it's like,

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01:32:51,750 --> 01:32:56,580
one plus one is two. He was a
quote unquote. He thought he was

1419
01:32:56,580 --> 01:32:59,310
being gang stalked, but that was
signs of mental illness, which

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01:32:59,880 --> 01:33:03,450
led to him doing what he did
wrap it up a nice bow and it's

1421
01:33:03,450 --> 01:33:04,620
over here. Well, we

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01:33:04,620 --> 01:33:08,070
can't have that. That's not what
that's not.

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01:33:10,680 --> 01:33:16,170
Right. Well, what what why would
he think he was Gangstar? Let's

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01:33:16,170 --> 01:33:19,560
just take him for his word.
Okay, let's get into the second

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01:33:19,560 --> 01:33:20,340
YouTube clip.

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01:33:20,610 --> 01:33:23,850
I follow nature, I'm in tune
with nature. Nowhere in nature,

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01:33:23,850 --> 01:33:31,290
you go see a goddamn lion.
Protest And when a gang of

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01:33:31,290 --> 01:33:34,860
hyenas come to attack his ass,
he will be peaceful protests and

1429
01:33:34,860 --> 01:33:37,470
holding up signs, you're not
going to see it in nature

1430
01:33:37,470 --> 01:33:41,610
anywhere. Because self
preservation is the first law of

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01:33:41,610 --> 01:33:44,790
nature. Every animal in nature,
I know human beings are not

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01:33:44,790 --> 01:33:50,460
animals. But you have the right
to preserve yourself. You can

1433
01:33:50,460 --> 01:33:53,070
choose to or you can you don't
have to fight back. That's

1434
01:33:53,070 --> 01:33:56,400
that's the difference between
human beings and animals. You

1435
01:33:56,400 --> 01:34:02,280
have the choice, you see. But if
you choose to fight back, there

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01:34:02,280 --> 01:34:05,970
are no consequences. So that's
the difference. So a lot of

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01:34:05,970 --> 01:34:10,230
teachers don't even know that
harassment is a felony. Stalking

1438
01:34:10,230 --> 01:34:13,950
with harassment is a damn
felony. That's a felony charge.

1439
01:34:13,980 --> 01:34:18,180
You definitely have the right to
defend yourself. And if someone

1440
01:34:18,180 --> 01:34:20,760
is and you know, gang stalking
is they're trying to tempt you.

1441
01:34:20,760 --> 01:34:24,480
They're trying to make you
attempt suicide. That's

1442
01:34:24,480 --> 01:34:27,870
attempted murder. If someone is
trying to tempt you to force to

1443
01:34:27,870 --> 01:34:32,190
force you into suicide, isn't
that attempted murder? Come on

1444
01:34:32,190 --> 01:34:35,790
now. Let's open our eyes get it
together a defend yourself at

1445
01:34:35,790 --> 01:34:39,270
all costs. Stand in your
righteousness die in your

1446
01:34:39,270 --> 01:34:40,560
righteousness period.

1447
01:34:41,430 --> 01:34:52,080
Wow. You know, June 10 2016. So
this is before before all this?

1448
01:34:53,490 --> 01:34:56,850
Yes, this is his very first
YouTube video, right but he's

1449
01:34:56,850 --> 01:34:57,930
where he leaves off with

1450
01:34:57,960 --> 01:35:02,490
but I'm saying I'm seeing an
article up from June 10 2016,

1451
01:35:02,490 --> 01:35:07,290
New York Times about a guy who
complained that he was being

1452
01:35:07,470 --> 01:35:12,270
gang stalked, and he uses the
term T eyes, which I just heard

1453
01:35:12,270 --> 01:35:18,270
in. Yes, in this video, and that
stands for targeted individual.

1454
01:35:18,270 --> 01:35:21,750
This is some paranoid stuff,
man. Now, of course, it may be

1455
01:35:21,750 --> 01:35:24,750
true, but this is people who
believe that you're walking

1456
01:35:24,750 --> 01:35:28,110
around and people bump into you
on purpose, and they're

1457
01:35:28,110 --> 01:35:31,230
targeting you and they're
harassing you, and you're a TI a

1458
01:35:31,230 --> 01:35:34,710
targeted individual. And there's
groups of people who feel that

1459
01:35:34,710 --> 01:35:38,610
they are also targeted
individuals by this gang

1460
01:35:38,610 --> 01:35:39,270
stalking.

1461
01:35:41,340 --> 01:35:45,450
And this is so widespread and
just this this add on to the

1462
01:35:45,450 --> 01:35:49,650
point you made. You remember the
Naval Shipyard?

1463
01:35:50,100 --> 01:35:53,010
Yes, yeah, that was another
crazy one.

1464
01:35:54,360 --> 01:35:58,980
He was saying they were using
Lova low frequency voices in his

1465
01:35:58,980 --> 01:36:03,750
head. Right? He changed the
hotel room three times. And he

1466
01:36:03,750 --> 01:36:08,160
even took and carved on his
shotgun. It was a low energy

1467
01:36:08,160 --> 01:36:12,480
something weapon. So I mean, we
say these people, they're saying

1468
01:36:12,480 --> 01:36:17,460
something. And not like I said,
I either he's mentally ill,

1469
01:36:17,700 --> 01:36:20,820
which will explain why he did
what he did. Or he's actually a

1470
01:36:20,820 --> 01:36:24,630
TI, which explains why he did
what he did when we